Kate Middleton, a rather mannish-looking princess-to-be (get a load of that wedge-shaped chin), has excised the ‘obey’ part from her wedding vows. Her feminist sensibilities have got the best of her, so she will not be vowing any obedience to her Prince. Perhaps William could take a page from her book and alter his wedding vows to suit a more contemporary interpretation:
“I, beta supremo, take thee, annoying ballbuster, to be my lawful wedded wife, to have and to hold from this day forward, for better for worse, for richer for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love as a legally recognized equal in every way except for those times I’m required to prop her on a pedestal and sing her praises to all and sundry, till death or a financial catastrophe from divorce us do part, according to culturally specific traditional folkways; and thereto I plight thee the last vestige of my manly fortitude.”
I’m sure Kate batted her eyelashes and glowed a bit in the cheeks when she kindly asked directed William to accept her changes to the traditional English wedding vows, and I’m sure William, being the good enlightened poodleboy he is, pretended to happily agree, figuring that she would love him even more for his understanding and progressive attitude.
I’ve got news for ya, ol’ chap. She won’t. In fact, she’ll likely come to resent you for caving to her demands.
To understand this female peculiarity with issuing demands they don’t really want to see acceded, you have to envision that each woman has two mouths. One mouth, the face mouth, says the words that your ears actually hear. This is the mouth that concatenates and delivers the sentence fragments that form in the prefrontal cortex of her mind. She means these words, inasmuch as that part of her brain retains control over the other parts of her brain. Unfortunately, that is rarely the case.
The other mouth, the vagina mouth, only says words that her hindbrain hears. These are words not meant for either your ears or her ears. Her hamster, though, does hear them, and his job is to spin those words, devilish as they are, into palatable rationalizations which are then shuttled to the polite and civilized cortex for mastication.
So, the face mouth says ‘I will not obey and he better agree with me’, while the vagina mouth whispers ‘Jesus, if he bends to my feminist will I’m going to dry up in bed and start daydreaming of the gruff bouncer at Shariadiscoteque.’
Before I knew of this ‘obey’ tidbit, I would have given this celebutard marriage pretty good odds of surviving to the decrepit end. After all, she is marrying a prince. And she’s not exactly the hottest babe he could have snagged. But now that this has come out, I revise my estimate downward. The chance of Kate absconding with a swarthy southerner on a weekend junket aboard his yacht has just doubled.
Like father, like son. Even royalty can’t compensate for cringing betaness.
Goddamn! I was just going to ask you to do an article on why marriage is 10x worse for a beta than an alpha, especially in these days when women have artificial rights to eviserate and castrate you under the loving guidance of the state.
UAF
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Excellent piece. Now if only the doper MSM baby boomers could stop with the majesty worship. America and the royal family’s subjects are not in an economic recovery. Both countries are failing. They cannot require austerity from their people yet blow billions on these 2 lost souls who are about to ruin their lives. Until the wedding there were riots every weekend. Cops could not keep up with them. Got a crisis, throw a wedding, bread and circus complete with matching William and Kate trinkets.
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God damn, someone who agrees with me about her face. She has the jowls of a woman twice her age, and the unimpressive physique of a boy in early adolescence, if anyone saw those catwalk videos. Hell, I’ve got more of an hourglass figure than her (apologies for disturbing mental image).
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Yes he is.
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She’s not really that pretty. Certainly not pretty enough to be a princess. He should have married a 16 y.o. hottie. He is The Prince after all.
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Anyone know how many different men Kate Middleton banged before meeting with prince William?
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It runs in the family. Like the retard who renounced being king to marry a twice divorced whore.
From la Wik:
By 1934, Edward was irretrievably besotted with Wallis, finding her domineering manner and abrasive irreverence toward his position appealing; in the words of his official biographer, he became “slavishly dependent” on her. . . . Edward showered Wallis with money and jewels,[48] and in February 1935, and again later in the year, he holidayed with her in Europe.
. . .
In 1935, the head of the Metropolitan Police Special Branch told the Metropolitan Police Commissioner that Wallis was also having an affair with Guy Marcus Trundle, who was “said to be employed by the Ford Motor Company”
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Total Beta; Kate is OLDER than he is. She is a scheming cunt no doubt. Yes indeed, how many men are laughing at a prince who can have any hot 19 year old page 3 girl buys the worn out 29 year old yugo they all rode in?
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Yeah this disappointed / pissed the hell out of me when I heard about it. Wimp.
Fully equalist relationships are rubbish. When the gf/wife insists on it and her man agrees, she usually ends up being the taker, as Paige puts it.
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The Prince just failed The Ultimate Shit Test. The fact she would even suggest that as more than a joke shows the nature of their relationship. The future does not bode well…..
Marriage now is more about the dress, the ring – the woman becoming a bridezilla that walks all over her husband.
The sexiest and most pure part about vows is the “to obey” because of the symbol of dominance there. In fact it’s central to a surviving union.
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As soon as I heard the same thing about the wedding vows I knew this guy was done. But hey it is no different than the Rest of UK society.
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Maybe there’s a Ford in Kate’s future.
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Abscond the throne prince bill.
Your brother will become king and back the BNP
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It’s funny because just like 5 minutes ago my mother saw him in the news and was like “I’m jealous of her, he is so handsome!”
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Just like his father! A chip off the old block!
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Hmm looks familiar…
http://roissy.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/screen-shot-2010-10-11-at-10-47-18-pm.png?w=500&h=384
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I’ve always wondered why these princes always end up with ugly looking women. Diana was not very good looking at all, and Fergie…blech she’d make me want to throw up.
You would think these princes would be getting the top 1% hottest girls out there just due to the fact that they are royalty.
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Absolutely pathetic. He is unfit to rule if he cannot even assert his authority over his own wife.
Prince Harry, while he does have some judgment issues, seems to have a lot more fire, charisma, and courage than William. Perhaps Parliament should pass a law to remove William from the succession, because he clearly isn’t fit to rule.
I am well aware that we live in an unfortunate world in which women are thought to actually be identical to men except in terms of physiology. Petty treason statutes concerning disciplinary measures to be administered to women found guilty of disobedience were long gone.
However, vestiges of the traditional world still remain. Monarchy is one example. Marriage is another. When a modern man and woman enter into a marriage, there is of course no expectation that the marriage vows are taken seriously. They are not real vows anymore with no moral or legal weight, but much like monarchy they are very symbolic.
When a man submits to feminist ideology, he is surrendering his power to women. Seemingly token gestures like “modern” marriage vows or allowing a woman to keep her father’s name show the man to be a supplicating, weak one insecure of his own status and power. One consequence of this is diminished respect and attraction for him on the part of the bride.
William is the future Prince of Wales and King of the United Kingdom (among other commonwealth states), yet he is not confident of his status. A King must be very sure of himself lest he invite challenge to his authority, and never forget that the male desire for power fundamentally stems from masculine sexual aggression. Perhaps Great Britain should become a republic after all.
Another sad, sad sign of the long decline of the West in general and England in particular.
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Roissy is a little off-base here. The presence or absence of the word “obey” in the vow means precisely nothing- the power imbalance (who will be King and who is, finally, dispensible in that goldfish bowl) has always been clear. As Diana learned quite clearly when she began to misbehave. Kate’s leash will be very short for the rest of her life- so they can indulge in a little symbolically equalist rhetoric during a ceremony- might even be a calculated ploy to “modernize” the monarchy on the day when the whole world will be watching it.
Also- she’s very attractive, in a prim and proper sort of way. Quibble all you like about man-chins, in the binary litmus-test of shag-or-not-shag, she passes with flying colors.
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No fair. It must have been hard (no pun intended) denying her demands while she provided COSMO Girl eye-contact during fellatio. So WHAT if she won’t swallow. She could look quite fetching while performing The Act. HRH endured quite well for a balding kid born with every advantage who never had to exert himself over the opposite sex.
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He is marrying a woman a bit OLDER than him. That alone is a massive fail.
Being a prince, getting a woman 10 years younger should have been the bare minimum prerequisite.
I somehow think Harry is less of a Beta wuss.
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And she’s not exactly the hottest babe he could have snagged.
Britain has a surpising dearth of 9s and 10s. He could have gone for a French/Nordic/whatever woman, but Brits just don’t have the looks, for the most part.
I wouldn’t say Kate is any worse looking than Diana at the time of Diana’s marriage.
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Poor old crown prince.
Poor old boy.
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Funny, I was making a bet the marriage wouldn’t last four years this morning.
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What happened to the prince that had that Nazi costume on.
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So I ask again, was Kate a virgin when she met William, and has she been exclusive to him for the entire time since then?
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All said, with William being a beta chump, and Kate’s now inflated ego, I’m willing to bet on how long the marraige will actually last.
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@Timothy Webster
Kate was in a relationship when she met Will.
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It wasn’t just Kate Middleton who cut the “obey” part of the marriage vows.
Prince William’s mother did the same thing when she married Prince Charles.
William is a very eligible beta – but he’s a beta all the same.
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He *wants* to be king, so I suspect that he’s doing exactly what he’s told to do… by the feminists that have destroyed everything about western civilization. Surely, they’ve taken over control of the monarchy, too.
That being said… if he cannot even be king over his own household (the ‘obey’ thing), then how can he be King of England?
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I find the comments about Middleton’s looks just silly. The woman is very attractive. No she’s not a swimsuit model these days, but Jesus, the man has to live with her, so looks will only carry you so far. If you’re compatible with the woman, her being an 8 instead of an annoying cunt of a 10 is no small sacrifice. Seriously? Who here would have turned her down in their single days. Whoever you are, I salute you.
As for the vow, yes, THAT is a bad sign. Given that the marriage is more than a private affair, both William and his grandmother should have made it pretty clear that vows were not to be changed, as the whole point of the monarchy is tradition, and he is supposed to be the KING. I doubt Middleton would have given it much of a fight. Will this doom the marriage? I’m guessing no right now, but it’s not a good sign.
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maurice
Nothing that a course of antibiotics won’t cure.
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Given the choice between a Kate and a Pippa, I’d always wager Pippa is hotter.
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Most of the tabloids describe her as a former party girl. That only reinforces Roissy’s point about William’s beta-tude. She did her time on the cock-carousel and hit the jackpot of betaness.
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A lot of men I know find Kate very attractive.
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@ Polichinello
William could have had any one of the top 1% women of Britain. But, he went with a 29 year old instead. (older than he is, I might add.) By the looks of it, Middleton is nowhere near the top 1% of women in the UK. Attractive? Yes, there’s no denying that.
He could have gotten a better, younger, tighter one. Since female beauty is short-lived anyway, why not start as high as you can possibly get?
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Look.
The kid’s grandmother is one tough old broad. I have a lot more respect for her and her unapologetically elitist ways than I do for the whiny bitches that pass for the pathetic examples of manhood the UK regularly produces.
Seriously: The kid was raised in a family where Grandma is the ruling monarch, and is the toughest customer on the block. She brooks little argument. On tour, she was told in Ghana her life might be in danger – Kwame Nkruna had been threatened. This is what Wikipedia says:
Harold Macmillan wrote: “The Queen has been absolutely determined all through … She is impatient of the attitude towards her to treat her as … a film star … She has indeed ‘the heart and stomach of a man’ … She loves her duty and means to be a Queen.”
Or this:
The Queen’s reign is longer than those of her four immediate predecessors combined (Edward VII, George V, Edward VIII, and George VI). She is the longest-lived and third-longest-reigning monarch of the United Kingdom, and the second-longest-serving current head of state (after King Bhumibol Adulyadej of Thailand). She does not intend to abdicate,[136] though the proportion of public duties performed by Prince Charles may increase as Elizabeth reduces her commitments.
This is a Major Public Figure woman. If anything, she’s a dignified monarch.
Any dude who’s going to take her place has a freaking hard act to follow.
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They should have the minister recite the traditional vows nonetheless…
And if Kate blanches at the word “obey” and hesitates at all with her “I do”, I’d have the queen shout:
“OFF WITH HER HEAD!”
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She looks better than most women. And I doubt looks are the #1 priority when expanding a royal family.
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Most of the tabloids describe her as a former party girl.
I’d be suspicious of that claim. There hasn’t exactly been a cavalcade of ex-bedmates showing up at Star, National Enquirer and other forums selling their stories.
William could have had any one of the top 1% women of Britain.
You know who follows that strategy? Donald Trump. How’s that working out for him? Yeah, he gets all sorts of hot models, but he also gets to write a lot of alimony checks. William needs to stay married. That’s a priority for him as heir to the throne. He can’t just marry some bimbo that every guy on earth wants to screw.
From appearances, he’s a provider beta, and he married a little above that class, but within his limits. Other than his mistake with the vow, I just don’t see the problem.
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Laura Ingalls Wilder asked Reverend Brown to remove the word ‘obey’ from her wedding vows.
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It could all be orchestration/pandering. I generally don’t take anything in the media at face value.
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Laura Ingalls Wilder was a hick who could write homely stories. William is the future king of England, Canada, Scotland, N.Irelan, Australia, N. Zealand and other Commonwealth Territories. He should be able to expect his wife’s obedience, and his credibility in office is damaged by agreeing to this omission. Given how far the royals have fallen, and Diana’s horrid example, I’d think even Middleton would have had enough sense to not to broach this idea.
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She wasn’t a party girl. She dated him on-and-off, mostly on, for something like ten years. He had a few other girlfriends, as I recall, but the two of them always ended up back together. Better than the shotgun-like approach of Charles and Diana, who barely knew each other when they got married.
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i have to wonder if kate middleton did out of a liberal obligation to the feminist criticism of saying that specific vow. i remember there was speculation about it on jezebel and similar sites.
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Hey, William… why the long face?
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The modern girl’s princess dream then; party it up on the cock carousel, then settle down with beta prince Charming. Wow. Even if this isn’t true, it is the story that is being spun to the masses. Yuck!
If even the future King of England is a Beta, then who the heck is an Alpha? Do we have to go back to Genghis Khan and Sargon?
Was reading Seutonius “The Twelve Caesars” the other day, and kept seeing the incidents in the light of Game.
I’d love to see Roissy do a redux on the first Caesars of Rome, based on Game principles. Julius, Augustus, Caligula: Alpha. Tiberius, Claudius, Nero, Domitian: Beta.
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You could tell that Prince Williams was beta, he was always leaning towards his girlfriend in pictures, more then she was leaning towards him. You are a fucking prince and soon to be king damn it! ACT LIKE IT!
At least his brother appears to have some alpha traits always running around with blonde skanks, instead of 1 steady girlfriend for like 7 years.
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man jaw *check* ring finger longer than index finger *check*
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man jaw *check* ring finger longer than index finger *check*
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Kate is, what? Like 6 months OLDER than William? C’mon, guys.
Could he have scored younger and hotter as the presumptive heir to the British crown? Sure. But I like Kate well enough from what I know of her, and it seems he does too. Considering the long line of unhappy marriages (to truly unattractive partners) from which the future king descends, he’s not doing too badly for himself.
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Polichinello,
Good points. Kate has been with Will for a long time and he probably trusts her. She is being rewarded for her loyalty.
I agree that he should have told her to leave the vows as they are, however.
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Harry is alpha because his real father, James Hewitt, whom he looks exactly like, is an alpha. (The only greater alpha act than fucking the Princess of Wales is fucking the Queen of England.)
William is beta because his father, Charles, is a beta. (“I wish I could be your tampon, Camilla.”)
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I’ve been waiting for someone to say this. The royal wedding is pathetic. This guy could be the king of alphas (shit he is a future king) and he is acting like a typical beta and letting her walk all over him.
Listen the newspapers, it’s all about “her day” and Kate etc. There’s little talk about him at all. This guy is actual royalty and he is completely overshadowed by this rather unattractive female because shes a she.
The whole royal wedding is setting such a bad example for guys everywhere.
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maybe, but what do you think about prince william not opting to wear the wedding ring, eh? that seems pretty alpha to me. and diana also chose to excise the “obey,” so maybe that’s more of a tradition than anything else. also, attacking kate’s appearance was unnecessary and mean-spirited. just putting it out there.
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Well, if Kate is pulling line item vetoes to her wedding vows, at least Prince William had the foresight not to wear a wedding ring himself:
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/should-prince-william-wear-a-wedding-ring/
– Dr. Helen
Uh, The Prince of fucking England bitch.
[Editor: Hm, interesting. That does temper his betaness a bit.
As for people saying Middleton is hot… she’s a 7, veering into 6 territory within a fortnight. She’s attractive enough to boff for a chick with mannish features (which includes not just the angular jawline, but also her leathery skin and narrow hips). But there’s no doubt Will coulda done better simply by dint of the status accrued to his title, if nothing else.
Harry does seem like the real alpha of the family, if his hot lovers are any indication. Maybe he is a cuckold. Now you know why women, even women in high positions like Diana, cheat: two williams are a worse bet for future grandprogeny than a william and a harry.]
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keyser,
Maybe if Will put a pretty dress on we would pay as much attention to him as to her.
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Given the political realities Prince William’s letting the obey be left out of the wedding vows doesn’t show him to be a beta.
Maurice argued at SDaedalus’ blog that it was probably the palace rather than Kate that left the “obey” out. The monarchy wants to survive and be more in step with contemporary British culture.
However I’m disappointed. Precisely because I’d like to see feminism rolled back to a good degree.
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Georgie Porgie
Are you serious? Kate’s only older than him by 6 MONTHS!? If that’s the case, what’s all the fuss about? And what’s with the assumption that she’s a slut just by older?
And as Polichinello mentioned, they’ve been together for YEARS already. And so what if she’s not attractive according to you all. This may not make a whole lot of sense to you all (and I’m sure you’ve heard this before), but a relationship/marriage isn’t ALLLL about looks.
As for the vows, I admit that the change is a bit suspicious. (Warning, mention of God) “Obeying” your husband, and having him as the head of the household isn’t equivalent to a wife being second-class, oppression, and having no rights, opinions, or any say. That’s not even what God intended.
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Good for him on not wearing a wedding ring.
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let’s not us forget prince charles also had his affairs, though with women ugly next to di. that puzzles me.
[Editor: While most men do have affairs with younger, hotter women than the wives they are currently shackled to, there is a noticeable minority of these cheats who inexplicably dumpster dive with uglies like camilla. My theory is that these men cheat down the SMV ladder because boffing a grateful fug gives them a power rush which their harridan or inattentive wives have robbed from them.]
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The funny thing is, his status is so high that there isn’t a shit test he COULDN’T pass. He could have absolute hand in any situation if he wanted it, since, ya know, he’s the friggin PRINCE OF ENGLAND! To wit:
Kate: Um, William dear, I think I’m gonna nix that whole obedience part out of my wedding vow.
Beta William: Oh no problem, my darling! After all, it is your special day. Anything I can do to accommodate your every request. In fact, I was going to suggest you extirpate the obedience demand anyway. A barbarian bit of chauvinism, really.
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Kate: Um, William dear, I think I’m gonna nix that whole obedience part out of my wedding vow.
Alpha William: Well then I’m gonna have to nix that whole getting married to you decision.
Kate: What?
Alpha William: Yeah. I’ll just have to move on the best I can. I don’t know if I’ll even have time to meet another girl, as I’m so busy being the Prince of England.
Kate: Ya know, on second thought, I’ll just keep it in.
Alpha William: That’s right you will. Go fetch me a beer.
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This should be the goal of any aspiring alpha male. Get to the point where your options are so plentiful you can mentally see yourself as being the prince. You won’t encounter an impassable shit test again.
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English royalty? Chin to chin I’d say this is a more credible handy work.
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If that’s the case, what’s all the fuss about?
Because every dude commenting here thinks he can bang a new supermodel every night.
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Camilla bought a new pair of shoes for her wedding which got increasingly tighter & tighter as the day went on.
That night after the festivities were finally over, she & Charles had retired back to their room. Camilla flopped on the bed and said “Please remove my shoes darling. One’s feet are killing one”.
Ever obedient, the Prince of Wales attacked her right shoe with vigour. . .. But it would not budge.
“Harder”, yelled Camilla.
“Harder?”, Charles yelled back, “I’m trying darling! But it’s just so bloody tight!”
“Come on give it all you’ve got”, she cried. Finally when it released, Charles let out a big groan, and Camilla exclaimed, “There! Oh God, that feels so good.”
In their bedroom next door The Queen turned to Prince Phillip and said, “See I told you she was still a virgin with a face like that!”
Meanwhile back in the other bedroom Charles was attempting to remove the other shoe when he cried out, “Oh god, darling this ones even tighter”.
At which point Prince Phillip turned and said to the Queen, “That’s my boy, Once a Navy man, always a navy man!”
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When a man is enculturated, he is betafied.
Culture IS women.
Only an individuated man is Alpha. Alpha is not necessarily caused by social rank. As long as you still are enculturated to follow social rules, and don’t see yourself as the rule maker, you don’t have the alpha mindset.
It’s not easy for the best of us in the best of times to make our own way and make our own rules and sing out own tune. I’d guess a prince would be under more pressure than most to be a follower.
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^^
LOL
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Roissy, if you have the means to identify the BPC (Beta Per Capita) of nations around the world, I am willing to bet England ranks in the top ten. If I remember correctly, last year’s Beta of the Year is from England as well.
The other nations that would rank are the USA and China. I am also willing to double down that other than these three nations, the other top ten also rank very highly in the APC.
Speaking of APC, I would put my money on Scotland, some African nation, and some Muslim country, other than Iraq. Even Great Britain’s top Alpha Male, James Bond, is Scottish.
It is clearly evident that countries that seek forced equality develop into beta breeders.
As a side note, my great grandmother was a lady-in-waiting for the Queen of England, but she left the royalty behind the sneak away with my Scotch/Irish grandfather, who was a tinker, to become American citizens. Unfortunately, they were on my mother’s side so they did not pass alpha training to my father.
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There’s always his big dicked redhaired HALF brother to entertain her.
Poor balding bastard.
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Yet another testament to the importance of game. If our poor prince had even an ounce of game, if he had ever even skimmed this website or the hundreds like it, he could have had literally any woman in the world. The bare rudiments of game could have made William the most alpha man on the planet. She might not divorce him, but she will cheat. And if her infidelity becomes public knowledge, my money’s on him forgiving her. Ugh.
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She mightn’t wait to jump a follower of mohammad on his yacht.
She might jump Harry after he returns from trying to kill muslim fanatics in whateveristan.
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Being his mate is an extremely tasking marriage.
His restrictions narrow his field drastically — starting with the bride must please the Queen. Never forget that.
She also must keep her mouth shut WRT the family business.
Many a prospect failed that test.
He’d run out of time: no repetition of his father’s long stall would be permitted.
The Queen wants a wedding NOW.
So too, the Government of the UK; talk is of shifting the crown straight to William when the Queen passes.
Charles is massively opposed in certain circles and may well prefer to stay on as a Duke/ Prince of Wales without the demands.
His spouse is absolutely NOT considered acceptable as a Queen and does not function even now in the way that HRH Diana did.
Like Obama, his position is going to drape him in Alpha not withstanding his Beta character.
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This is my first post here, been reading for months now and its by far the best game blog, but whilst I agree with 90% of it, I disagree on a few major points…
The whole vow issue is a moot point here, this is the royal family, not Dave & Megan from Essex. And the point about Kates looks, do you think a prince is going to marry some 18 year old bimbo with fake tits and a spray tan. This is the royal family, not the playboy mansion. Kate is attractive in a way which fits the environment, she looks elegant, sophisticated, intelligent etc.
…and this whole age thing is another load of bollocks, I mean if you had the chance to fuck Miley Cyrus (ok, bad example) or Carmen Electra you tellin me you turn down Carmen cause she’s 42…get the fuck out of here, no you wouldn’t cause she oozes sex appeal, and that what its about, whether your 18 or 42, I fucked off this hot young chick just last week cause she was was as fuckable as a plank of wood.
Game – charisma, Alpha – sure of yourself
Same shit, different terms, great blog though
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At the risk of seeming Aspergie, there are some technical details worth mentioning. First, this event is pure show business in all its aspects. The matter of the vows may have been Kates intention but I need not have been. The last Royal Wedding had wording that omitted the Obey part if I am not mistaken and that was unlikely to have left up to Diana. Leaving it out now is trendy, after all, and is that.
Second, Will has no choice at this point. He has an absolute duty to marry a fertile young Protestant with a tolerable reputation an make some heirs. Kate not only fits these specs but is already embedded within the inner circle – which is key. With the level of scrutiny placed on the Prince, he simply cannot risk banging any chick who is not a member of the club – they might sell the rights to the story… along with a video. Instant wealth and a TV deal.
Likewise, after the wedding… well lets say that some rules apply less to the King than to other men – as long it all stays within the club.
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“cringing betaness” – lol, nice
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And by the by, obama isn’t a beta, he’s an omega, and trying to make all of America share in his omeganess.
His entire existence has been one where he has ever wafted higher, like a feather, all because of the accident of race. But now he has to make decisions, difficult decisions, ones where there isn’t an easy out, for easy decisions are made way down in the bureaucracy. And he can’t do it.
This guy is so over his head it’s scary.
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This post goes a bit too far, in my view.
Totally agree on the “obey” part. If I get married, any woman who wishes to excise that piece will be out on her ass faster than an Osaka bullet train. But more likely, I’d have weeded her out long before and given her the ol’ pump ‘n’ dump.
That said, you are completely wrong about Middleton’s appeal. She’s actually a very attractive woman. I’ve been searching high and low for flaws (because I hate hate HATE any notion of aristocracy) but can’t really find any. She’s an 8.
And I’m not sure this marriage carries much risk for the guy from a legal standpoint. I’m willing to the bet they grabbed superlawyers from every corner of the United Kingdom to draft a pre-nup so bulletproof you couldn’t put a tank shell through that motherfucker.
Also, Charles & Diana didn’t split because Charles was too beta. They split because Charles was cheating on her with Camilla Parker Bowles. Not exactly alpha because Bowles is ugly as fuck…but not really beta either. And before the Diana/Charles wedding, Charles told her point blank he didn’t love her. Went through with the wedding because duty, expectations and all that shit.
Beta? Perhaps not. Stupid? Definitely.
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It is not good is it! There are enough girls out there preening themselves in the mirror persuading themselves that they are or ought to be a Princess and (it could be you) this 7(?) from little more than the Council Estate marries the Heir to the thrown bar one of the King of England. At least Anne Boleyn had some class and I bet she promised to Obey.
Kate’s looks will harden, but compared to thirty years ago the two of them at least look as if they are happy together (Chuck and Di in that Dimbleby interview looked as if they had just returned from their day out on Cilla’s Blind Date and were desparately trying to be Positive).
I am taking bets as to how long it lasts – but you can never tell, for certain. I better not say anything more or else I will lose my chance of a Knighthood.
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Nice to see some substantial opposition here in the comments, which I agree with. Kate is less than a year older than him, and she’s a great looking woman. She’s been with William for about a decade now, and she clearly is ready and willing to enter the limited life of royalty – she’s going into it with her eyes open – unlike Diana, who was taken up by Charles into the family firm rather too quickly.
Not exactly surprised she wouldn’t want the “obey” line in the vows — what women do? I will say however that I am happy to hear that William won’t be wearing a ring. My father, a good liberal, never wore a ring either. I don’t think there was even such a thing as a male wedding ring up until the past few decades or so. It’s my opinion that men should never wear rings of any kind. It’s way too 70s-style douchey.
[Editor: I wear a ring on my pinky finger that a stripper ex gave to me. I find that to be acceptable.]
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Two years of that and she’ll run off with a jihadist who’ll treat her like hot infidel property and hates everything British.
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You know I just actually looked up some pictures of his bride. She is not the best looking chick in the world. He should be able to do better than that he’s a prnce.
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Workshy Joe and Rum have hit on the salient points:
1) Kate’s not the first royal to drop the “obey’ from the wedding vows. Princess Diana did as well.
2) William is prohibited by English law (an old but still applicable law) from marrying a Catholic.
3) William can’t just take the hottest chick in the realm. He’s limited by the practical need to marry someone from within his own social circle. Someone who knows the protocols and intricacies, is of the appropriate class, and has the character and social skills needed for the job, which requires non-stop touring, diplomacy, and grace.
Diana was only 20 when she wed and probably didn’t fully understand what was in store for her. Kate is much older and has no excuse, and for that reason I suspect her marriage to William will last longer than that of Charles and Di, which fell apart within only a short several years.
Apart from that, I couldn’t give a shit about this topic! 😉
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Charles’ brother,the guy who does all the business deals with foreign countries,who is,I think,the ex-hubby of Fergie(and Fergie was a flat out dog)–he looks like a Monty Python character. And i believe that Kate, Camilla and the Queen will not be the only ones in the wedding party wearing silk panties.
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I really like this 2 brain analogy. Here’s my riff.
Your body actually has two brains. #1 controls what you say. #2 controls your body language. Your body often has a completely different conversation than the one your mouth has.
Women have a third brain that controls her response to what she hears and sees, independent of what she says. She says “obey”, but her response to “no” is attraction. That’s brain #3 in action.
Talk to brain #3.
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“Syrian ambassador told he’s not invited after uprising slaughterings”
I’m sure this guy is more worried about the US placing their iron sights to his head in the name of democracy and peasants worldwide.
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This is a time for further Alpha rejoicing brothers.
White knighting Beta bombardment and myth making continues apace.
Let it rain upon them relentlessly.
It seems obvious alphaness is not hereditary.
I can hear those hamster wheels spinning and purring…..oh the joy.
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It is amazing that he is not a psycho: a promiscous mom, a bastard brother, an idiotic father who licks the boots of a horse-faced lover and a grandfather who had Diana killed.
Wow, poor dude.
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Prince harry has had many lovers including that australian singer imburglia.
he dates a south african girl whom he breaks up with from time to time to buff other chicks.
There is a strong evidence that he is not charles son
http://ianundercover.com/2009/05/31/iuc-world-exclusive-prince-charles-not-harrys-real-father-ex-diana-lover-keeps-silents-because-of-death-threats-from-royal-family/
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[…] A heretical American infamous blogger advises Prince William to learn Game due to Kate re-wording th… A little nasty but I think Roissy’s heart is in the right place. Americans! Always revolting. Always against tradition and look where it has gotten you! Hm?! […]
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I was wondering at her mannishness today myself.
She has a hard, weather-beaten look.
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If being a man who caused a significant rise in a university’s applications simply by the fact that he was attending isn’t alpha then what is?
There are some good points raised in this but I think the obey thing goes above William and especially Kate. OK you could say he’s a Prince so should just do what he wants but in an age of serious flux in the general feeling towards the monarchy they have to do what they think what is best (which isn’t always actually what is best, admittedly). Isn’t this a blog that has claimed before that presidents, millionaires, etc are automatically alphas simply due to status?
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Just as long as no one plays Kung Fu Fighting at the Shariadiscoteque, cause that would be bad.
My ex-fiancée stated that she wouldn’t take my last name. I submitted and she left me before the wedding, so in hindsight, I wish it was I who had balls and stuck up for my beliefs and custom and told her to hit the road if she didn’t like my name.
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3rd best game blog.
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“Obey” hasn’t been used in wedding vows for several decades now.
I’ve probably been to over 50 weddings in my lifetime and never heard it once.
It’s love, honor and cherish for both bride and groom.
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I think she is reasonably pretty. I’d give her an 8. Still, I can understand how most of the prolish commentariat on this blog would not find her so; having the American/Nordic/Porn star look as their ideal.
Still, the host is right. The omens are are not good. The “celebrities” that the couple have invited to the weeding reek of Blair’s “Cool Britannia crowd”. I wish them the best despite the odds. Given a tender but firm hand she will turn out just fine and he will be more the king for it.
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Is it possible he’s gaming the public? He could be letting his homely bride get away with that shit in the public eye to appease the English sheeple that pay his bills, but throws down an iron alpha hand on the table behind closed doors. Is the prince still banging chicks on the side or is he getting more ass than Tiger Woods? That’s more of a measure of his alpha/betaness than some bullshit his hippie manwife says.
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Here’s what I wrote a month ago in this thread:
http://roissy.wordpress.com/2011/03/14/the-i-can-leave-if-you-want-shit-test/#comments
“I do not think you’re lying … I think you simply aren’t conscious of the truth. … The conscious and rational part of our brains is centered in the left frontal lobe. If I ask you what you’re looking for in a guy, it is this part of your brain that will form an english language response – probably something like, “he needs to have a good sense of humor.” That’s true for that part of your brain, but unfortunately, it’s not the part of your brain that actually makes decisions with regard to attraction.”
And here’s what Roissy says today:
“This is the mouth that concatenates and delivers the sentence fragments that form in the prefrontal cortex of her mind. She means these words, inasmuch as that part of her brain retains control over the other parts of her brain. Unfortunately, that is rarely the case. The other mouth, the vagina mouth, only says words that her hindbrain hears.”
I couldn’t help but notice the parallel.
For future reference Roissy, the seat of sexual desire is actually located in the limbic system, not the hindbrain. This is confirmed in rat studies. If you excise a rat’s limbic system, it actually gets better at running mazes, but will stop having sex and stop caring for pups.
The hind brain is more like heartbeat and homeostasis.
[Editor: But hindbrain has such poetry.]
And lots of processes go on the pre-frontal cortex, so I don’t think it’s sufficiently precise to say that it’s the seat of consciousness. If I remove your entire pre-frontal cortex, you’ll be a vegetable. However, if I just destroy your left frontal lobe, you’ll lose your rationality. This is the area of the brain they used to take out with lobotomies – to make nice stepford wives. These women could actually continue to function in society. They would take care of their children, they’d fuck their husbands, they just couldn’t carry on a conversation. It’s kind of sick really.
Of course, the brain is quite plastic. I read a fascinating autobiography about a guy who underwent a lobotomy. He eventually developed consciousness in another part of his brain apparently.
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Kate Middleton is a high 8. She’ll age well too if her mother is any indicator.
As for her gimp of a groom: Alpha since he could get 95% of women. No courage though.
Not a royalist, but I think that Harry would make a far better King: proved his manhood in combat, something few western leaders never do. I don’t think he’d let the vows be mangled
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Oppps, meant is he banging chicks on the side or being faithful?
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Man, he looks old now! What could have possibly ravaged him so badly?
I’m only one year younger and I still look like a college boy. He looks like he’s pushing forty. The hair loss is very bad.
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Hawaii, it got us Hawaii. Enjoy the Hudson Bay.
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ultimate female fantasy
1. to marry the prince
alternatively
2. to cuckquean the princess
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I am distant cousin of wills.. as in 300 years ago part of the royal line. Yes, she is a manipulative cunt. After wills dumped her she went on a tear dating his friends to amp up the jealousy and psychological manipulation. He crawled back to her.
Diana was a former ballerina who had to quit because she was too tall (5’10) and busty. I vote 10 because she’s was a 19 year old virgin, a perfect physical specimen and I can get past the nose.
Ergo, don’t repeat the mistake of marrying the naive hottie and make sure the lady is sane and ready to get nuked by the press. Wills is no normal man and can’t be judged by “alpha” standards like Henry VIII. His job is to sire offspring to continue his line and not to make an ass of himself to preserve and outmoded institution. For this he gets billions of dollars. Well past her prime Kate has proven herself capable for this role (unlike his mother).
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Who the fuck gives a flying shit about these people. As an American male this wedding means absolutely nothing to me. And these people don’t even “rule” the country. They’re just born into celebrity. All the great musical talent that has come out of Britain changed the world more than these douches ever did.
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The royal family are figureheads, populist puppets of their people. The nature of their politically powerless monarchy is beta.
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eric: Klüver–Bucy syndrome.
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Bhetti
Good catch. Did they tell you in class that you will never forget that name? How could one? The sound of it and its meaning together make an indelible imprint in the memory.
Vito
If this kind of royalty did not exist they would have to be invented. What has Hollywood always been about if not the constant re-invention of the Fairy Tales of Uber Status that so many people feel the need for.
Eric
I go with fore-brain, hind-brain because if mental processes never get into the level of conscious awareness it does not matter what part of the brain they are supported by. Besides, trying to map brain functionality by destroying a part and then seeing gets fucked up is just too primitive an approach, imho. It is all way interconnected.
Fact: Nobody really knows how most psyche drugs work. It is mostly guess work and bluffing.
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… seeing what gets fucked up…
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Middleton is rather pretty for a 29 yr old. Just begs the question…what is Prince William doing marrying someone older than him?
I happen to like Middleton. In her “coming-out” interview she came off modest and likable. Her eyes are stunning as well.
Of course she did have plastic surgery.
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Duxbury
The point I was working on earlier is that Will has lost the window of opportunity to make any other choice. As each week goes by, his zone of privacy and trust keeps shrinking because he, along with everybody else, is subject to ever closer observation. And the willingness of potential dates to sell him out keeps escalating. Plowing other, stranger chicks just has become too risky.
In other words, the size of the pool of realistic candidates for the job Kate is taking on was always small and is getting smaller. Even more critically, the pool of datable women (for a Royal) is also quite small and getting smaller.
Kate wins by default at this point.
Anyway, I wish them lots of Luck.
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I love that you guys think the freaking heir to the throne of England could be seen with, let alone marry some trashy 19-year-old Page 3 model with fake tits. The Queen would never allow it; he’d be thrown out on his royal ass. Kate Middleton is his only choice. She’s from a respected middle class family with no scandal, she’s stylish and attractive enough in a horsey, aristocratic way, and most of all she’s LOYAL. They’ve been on and off for ten years and she’s never embarrassed the royal family or spoken to the press. Even with all that she has been criticized for being a commoner. Only culturally ignorant nerds would think the future King of England would EVER be allowed to run around banging models every night.
And the Prince Harry’s “blonde skanks” are actually one woman – Chelsy Davy, from an extremely wealthy Zimbabwean merchant family. They’ve been dating on and off for years, but I’d be surprised if he was allowed to marry her, as she does have a trashy party girl reputation. And she isn’t hot either:
http://www.picturesartist.com/chelsy-davy-pictures/chelsy-davy/
Bottom line, don’t envy those guys. They have little choice in marriage partners and if the wedding vows were changed, Kate had little to do with it behind the scenes. The royal family controls EVERY detail, and it was probably their way of appearing “with the times”.
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She’s a high 8? Are you people fucking crazy? You can al;ready tell how awful shes going to age. Look at that chin, her strange cheekbones, bad skin..she’s barely a 5.
High 8. wtf
White people are so goddamn boring. What’s the point in being royalty if you’re stuck with GROSS the rest of your life?
Only English royalty does this shit.
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He needs to shave that skull and get a little buffer. Balding young is awful, I am speaking from personal experience but you must do it with dignity.
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Those of you who are rating Kate an 8, keep in mind, we are talking about an English woman. English women as a whole are lower ranked than most countries.
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Doesn’t this blog define alpha as the quality and quantity of women a man’s capable of attracting, which would automatically render the heir-apparent a super-alpha? Now, I never thought that was a very good definition.
Here’s the post where the host lays it out:
http://roissy.wordpress.com/2007/09/19/defining-the-alpha-male/
[Editor: Relative to the world’s billions of untitled men, william is an alpha. But as his marriage decision shows, even a man given alpha status by sheer gravity of his station in life can harbor beta instincts deep in his soul.]
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all the screeching african banshees need to relax. no one said the prince should marry a woman that looks like jenna jameson. roissy is correct, this woman is a 7, teetering on a 6, and was probably a 8 in her prime *aka not anymore*.
there are thousands of 9s and 10s in england who would have fit the cultural and social requirements as well as having been at the prime age of attractiveness.
william is a beta because he is choosing kate out of sentimental attachment; the very worst phase for a man to make any major life decisions. a man must be calculating in his dealings if he is choosing a marriage partner; for a man of supreme status he must kick it up a notch and be consummately surgical.
over the years i have been able to spot betas and alphas just by the look in their eyes; william is beta in the very marrow of his soul. harry is an alpha there is no doubt, all smirk and devil may care attitude.
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It’s fucking ridiculous.
What an ungrateful bitch.
She is being showered with attention and wealth beyond dreaming due to nothing but ENGLISH TRADITION.
Her first act as a future queen is to buck tradition?
Is she fucking retarded or what?
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Funny how all these feminist women still want to be called ‘queen’ just because their husband is a king (doesn’t work that way for men marrying royals – but then again, maybe all women really are born princesses?).
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“She’s a high 8? Are you people fucking crazy? You can al;ready tell how awful shes going to age. Look at that chin, her strange cheekbones, bad skin..she’s barely a 5.”
In no possible world could she be called a 5. And she’ll age well: her mother is very well preserved.
That said, changing the vows is an outrageous action. She dissed her groom in front of half the world.
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Now the day has come only few hours there for royal wedding so people around the world will watch the wedding T.V. media will also awaiting to live royal wedding all over the world so all wish them to live lifelong together with one or two children.
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I know this is a slight digression from the topic at hand–or perhaps not, judging by this future-recipient-of-royal-alimony chick’s behavior–and probably seems obvious to many of the more seasoned commenters here, but I nevertheless must relate the epiphany I had today regarding women’s propensity to shit test. Previously, I was under the impression that you could divide girls into discrete categories, as it were, and that accordingly some girls would shit test quite frequently, others occasionally, others not at all, and so on. This led me to figure that some girls weren’t quite so vicious in their unconscious machinations (I know, I know, this is suspiciously close to pedestalization, but I’m young and I’m learning by trial and error), and that therefore there was the possibility of letting one’s guard down–you know, of actually treating a girl like a person instead of as an impetuous child (big mistake, I know).
But then it hit me (and this is something I’ve been chewing over for a while): all girls, no matter how externally nice, shit test. And I don’t just mean that they are sort of feeling you out, trying to place you in the social hierarchy, you know, fairly benign stuff that everyone does when making a social acquaintance, romantic or otherwise. I mean pure atavistic calculation. Girls vary in their overt displays of this trait; but that’s where the differences end. While some particularly bitchy girls (i.e., about 75% of the 7 to 8.5 range, my general territory) will be quite up front about rejection–that is to say, if you do the wrong thing when offered with the binary choice of becoming either, in her mind, irretrievably alpha or irretrievably beta, end of discussion–she will have no qualms about consciously humiliating you; here a girl can be so callous as to make even my idol, Patrick Bateman, shudder.
On the other hand–and this is where I was heretofore fooled–while some girls are not necessarily conscious of their shit testing routine–and thus are not overtly disdainful in their behavior–they are nonetheless, in a manner that is precisely equivalent, albeit less immediately obvious, inclined to create scenarios in which you are required to demonstrate your position unequivocally and to such an extent that her opinion of you in matters of attraction will be forever decided, with no possibility of redemption on your part.
I realized this quite viscerally today when I failed a shit test from a nice girl (which of course was only apprehensible in retrospect) and I had a flashback of all my relationships, successful and failed alike, and I realized that the successful ones–irrespective of context, romantic seriousness, quality of girl, anything at all–, the times when I sparked an attraction that led to hooking up, were the times when I was continuously (read: not continually, I mean every fucking second of every fucking day) and resoundingly alpha. (I screwed up even my two best long term sexual relationships, which had been won initially by sustained alphaness, through subsequent beta behavior, but that always came much later, when I had a huge amount of breathing room, which guys like me still manage to squander; but hey, that’s why I, and I suspect other erratically alpha but mostly beta guys like me, am here.) In short, there is no margin for error; even if you have to employ the most disingenuous and amoral bravado, you must maintain the appearance and even quasi-internal state of unwavering confidence, no matter how phony. That’s all that matters to girls. Everything else, as Roissy has repeatedly affirmed, is irrelevant.
Why is this small treatise on a fairly intuitive subject important? Other than its instructiveness for those of us still endeavoring to rid ourselves of the last vestiges of youthful naivete–and I would submit that that’s 99% percent of men, regardless of age–it’s also a potent reminder of women’s essentially immutable nature concerning mate selection. Women despise betas. Period. Anything even resembling beta behavior, at least during the “getting to know each other” stage, will cause you (meaning me, in this case) to be summarily rejected. And I’m basing this off of fairly extensive personal experience spanning the physical attractiveness (redundant for girls, I know) and personality spectrum; it’s not because I “just need to meet a nice girl, not all girls are like that,” and the rest of the feminist apologetic crap. Yes, it’s easy to overlook a nice girl’s shit tests, as they are mostly so subtle, and the subsequent rejection, because it’s so gentle, but the shit tests–those either/or moments of truth that forever preclude authentic communication between genders–are always there. Always. Never forget that.
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So if William were to get bored with married life and do a Tiger Woods would he be an Alpha then?
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So my woman is hotter than that of a prince. Good
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Harry does seem to look more like Charles than he used to. Scroll down for comparison pics in army uniforms.
Chelsy Davy is not a classic beauty, but she looks like she’d be a fun, loyal wife.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-564104/Proud-Chelsy-William-Charles-look-Prince-Harry-gets-campaign-medal-Aunty-Anne.html
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This wedding is the ultimate in Hypergamy. Watch and despair – at least Grace Kelly was a ten and elegant, (but the Monaco Prince is not a Major Royal).
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oh god what have i done…
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Roissy, you are probably going to write “Doh!” after this, but the two mouths theory is the basis for Diderot’s hillarious little novel “The Indiscreet Jewels”, where the sultan gets a magical ring that makes the lower mouths speak out loud.
One more proof that those 18th century guys knew the score, even knew halfway polite ways to say it, and the poor products of our corrupt compulsory education systems are lucky if they know that they have years of shovelling dung out of their brains ahead of them.
[Editor: I didn’t know that. That’s pretty cool. Great minds think alike.]
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He’s aged because he ate a diet high in grains/sugars and all the other low fat crap fed to him.
He also has a narrow palate which is from a poor diet plus orthodontics which would most likely of involved the extraction of teeth. This further causes the narrowing o the palate. This gives the ‘horseface’ look.
If he was fed a Paleo diet high in animal fats and proteins he would be a handsome man. Shit even if he received good orthodontic treatment without extraction he would of had a much broader attractive smile and facial structure. No horseface.
To this day he still wears a retainer.
I’m an expert in this area.
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He could have gotten something much better.
She is not that pretty. She has got a nice smile though.
She is not of noble origin.
She is a feminist.
Marrying a feminist means slaved man and divorce ahead.
Men must refuse marriage these days as most women are just feminist whores (and it is difficult to really know who isn’t – women come out of the closet after honeymoon and show you who they really are – they deserve an Oscar for their acting and pretending).
Chaps, be a Johnny Walker: keep walking…away from those bitches!
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Like he gives a shit. He’s gonna be banging chicks left and right while she squirts out the next generation of inbred “royals”. What a fucking farce. And I love how the media is wall to wall with this pap. MTV generation/rap/ostentatious black athletes/white pets/betas/feminazis/enviroweenies/hipster fags are eating it up. C’mon, does anyone take “the real world” seriously? It hasn’t been cool since puck told them all to basically fuck off. I could barely watch the draft today as I now see it for what it is. BULLSHIT……but go Steelers.
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Dont forget that he was probably butt raped at his boarding school or/and some Masonic / Order of Garter / Illuminati initiation.
He is doing fine, considering all.
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He’s back! Haha Great post.
Also, this is most certainly true:
[Editor: While most men do have affairs with younger, hotter women than the wives they are currently shackled to, there is a noticeable minority of these cheats who inexplicably dumpster dive with uglies like camilla. My theory is that these men cheat down the SMV ladder because boffing a grateful fug gives them a power rush which their harridan or inattentive wives have robbed from them.]
Specifically because you can fling around the lesser attractive woman in bed without fear of consequence. Watch out for their head games and wanting to fuck with your other life when you do these chicks wrong.
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Poll Question:
Does Kate
A. Spit
B. Swallow
C. None of the above
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Everyone saying how “shes only 6 months older!!” don’t seem to realise that 6 months older is NOT 10 years younger.
if they were the same age it would not be ok. She is not 6 months too old…..she is 10 years and 6 months too old.
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Marrying a woman older than yourself is like marrying your own Mother. The rule of thumb is: halve the man’s age and add seven, which by my calculation means that William should have married someone aged about twenty-one. Now that would feel right. Kate on the other hand should have married someone aged about forty-two – right again. She is too old, too poor (i.e. wrong socail bracket) and although slim not really good looking enough. I know that because you can always tell she wears lots of make-up. What does that hide! A bad sign.
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on April 28, 2011 at 6:08 pm D
And by the by, obama isn’t a beta, he’s an omega, and trying to make all of America share in his omeganess.
His entire existence has been one where he has ever wafted higher, like a feather, all because of the accident of race. But now he has to make decisions, difficult decisions, ones where there isn’t an easy out, for easy decisions are made way down in the bureaucracy. And he can’t do it.
This guy is so over his head it’s scary.
true,
Now, Which is scarier; a black president who is pretending to know wnat he is doing? Or a black president who is simply doing what the Jews tell him to do?
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dunno…. why promise something you know you could not keep?
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I thought there was hope for William when right after the ceremony his manly bride kept asking “Are you happy?” and he appeared not to reply. But then on the balcony he asked “Shall we kiss?” before they did.
She’s going to crush him within five years.
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What’s amazing to me is that a a poor PUA in America can have a better lifestyle (and by extension a better life) than members of the Royal Family. Prince William, for example, will be subject to huge scrutiny and he would be condemned forever in the media if he cheats on his wife, who I think is hot by the way, although she is past her prime by maybe 10 years. At one time it was acceptable for a Prince or King to have more than one wife or mistresses, but under the current dynamic they can only have 1.
The PUA on the other hand, while never having as much money as members of the Royal Family, can go through life with a stream of sexual conquests. To me, variety in beautiful women is worth more than money.
Richard Kern’s life has been far more exciting and better than Prince Charles’s, despite the huge financial differential.
*****
On another note, I will point out that the people who say the wedding is getting too much coverage, etc., or the people who really dislike the Royal family (I’ve noticed this from reading articles, facebook posts, etc.), tend to be non-White. This is because they are trying to diminish the status of the Royalty in hopes that their relative status will increase (status being a zero some game) in the hopes it will help them negotiate their value on the sexual marketplace.
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She has a wicked flashing smile. The kind of woman who looks good on the expensive sheets of a really fine hotel.
Should be often on her knees, top on bottom off. Yes.
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They looked good together. The kiss was sweet and I liked how William and Harry looked like they were going to laugh at the altar.
She may have taken out the “obey” part, but she will have to obey throughout their marriage anyway and it may not have been her who wanted it taken out. It was a good show anyway 🙂 very fairytale like.
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@Flip
‘Harry does seem to look more like Charles than he used to. Scroll down for comparison pics in army uniforms.
Chelsy Davy is not a classic beauty, but she looks like she’d be a fun, loyal wife.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-564104/Proud-Chelsy-William-Charles-look-Prince-Harry-gets-campaign-medal-Aunty-Anne.html‘
Stupid and blind is no way to go through life buddy.
Hewitt is no doubt Harry’s father, and I hope to god Harry kicks the scum out of the UK. The curvature of the face and nose is a dead giveaway, and the red hair? Too bright to be old sourpuss’ kid.
http://ianundercover.com/2009/05/31/iuc-world-exclusive-prince-charles-not-harrys-real-father-ex-diana-lover-keeps-silents-because-of-death-threats-from-royal-family/
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OT: Col. Allen West goes MRA
http://tinyurl.com/3zhpnqq
Key quote:
His recent remarks to a conservative Christian women’s group that women affiliated with liberal groups “have been neutering American men” are the sort that tend to attract attention. “America needs strong men,” Mr. West explained, adding, “the feminist movement was a great thing to push the equality of women but that does not mean you have to make men feel inferior or degrade them.”
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Roissy I disagree with you. A woman’s attractiveness cannot just be judged on her photogenic ability. Apparently Kate is a very attractive and charming and sexy woman in person but not necessarily that photogenic. Also a woman’s elegance, style and sexiness can up a woman’s hottness but a couple of points.
I have dated and regularly meet super hot bimbos but the minute they opened their mouth and spoke I was totally turned off. I have even briefly dated a penthouse playmate and she was stupid. Would you choose a woman who is a 10 but uneducated and lower class in her behaviour; or a woman who is an 8 but is educated at a world class university, is from a good background, and can hold her own in your social circle. I would go for the latter. And at your age so would/should you.
I have had my share of beautiful bimbos and now I don’t waste a second on any woman unless she is classy, educated and can hold her own in a conversation with me. Because with a dumb bimbo I just rail-road over them, have them eating out of my hand, and get very bored super-fast. End up dumping their asses which in turn leads to pathetic stalker like behaviour or outright hatred for me.
So yes he did marry this girl that he has dated for many many years. He could have had his pick of anyone and yes they did break up at times and he had it off with other woman too. But he always came back to her. So that in itself says something. And yeah she doesn’t have super model looks but she is 5’10 with a hot body and she is a pretty good package.
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I think Diana’s death implies very well what happens to you when you don’t “Obey”.
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Spot the target!
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Fuck the Queen and this stupid wedding. We kicked your asses out of here, then again in 1812 – and then saved you guys twice.
You should be sending a steady supply of young bitches in payment every year. Your weddings should be in Vegas to boost our economy. You owe us.
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@ Da Truth Hurts
Your grasp of History seems a bit off.
Your 1776 Declaration is what today would be called Terrorism and had no reasonable basis. You were lucky in 1812, as The Battle of New Orleans was a fluke victory from a fairly incompetenmt General (Jackson). Whilst all this was going on we defeated the French in Jamaica and Canada and then a couple of years later beat the French again at a little matter called Waterloo and all these battles you may have noticed were ‘away’ fixtures for us, as were of course the other two you mentioned. We were never under any threat in either WW1 or WW2. In 1 you turned up late, three years late and 2 you again turned up three years late and in these were world wars where we were fighting in disparate theatres. If anyone really helped (in Europe) it was the Russians. Since then of course we’ve saved your ass in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Happily we had morew sense than tyo get involved in the farce which was Vietnam but had we done so we might have saved your blushes – as you couldn’t even beat the Vietnamese.
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Prince William’s life is entirely scripted for him.
How can he be alpha?
The Royal titles are meaningless. They come with no power.
The real wealth is controlled by the state.
Lives revolve around performing for the ungrateful, fickle, judgmental masses.
He gets to make few of his own decisions.
Seriously:
How many men can be Alpha in this situation?
That said, his grandmother is also Queen, and is a larger than life figure compared to any of the men anywhere near her.
Please.
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At least he didn’t marry an asian
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Raw physical attraction isn’t everything. Of course.
Women can compensate by bringing a few extras. One is class. No-one comments on this. Maybe it doesn’t turn on other guys.
i can get all fired up by a skanky ho, too. But when a hot chick turns out to have some class and style – Kaching.
One of the classiest women I ever dated was also one of the hottest. Not because she was super hot (she was pretty delicious but not the hottest flame). Because she was oozing major class and charm.
That was the sexiest thing about her. Once she passed the minimum attractiveness level, she outscored most women who were hotter than she was by having the extras to bury them all.
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Kate probably had no hand in her vows at all. I’m sure the PR people thought this would be a great “statement” for the Royal Family to make. Did the handlers and such ever stop to think that a King who can’t command his own wife to obey will have a hard time commanding the loyalty of his subjects? Probably not.
In any case the whole Royal house has mired deep in Betatude at least since Edward VII died, and arguably since the Hanovers took the throne. This is part of why Monarchy in the modern age is such a farce, the King should be the supreme unchallenged Alpha of the nation, otherwise what’s the point? When the King is not an Alpha then Monarchies quickly decay into court scheming, backstabbing, and other feminine pleasures. England needs a Ned Stark on the throne but is getting a Theon Greyjoy.
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ohh dear , gay American insight into thousands of years of tradition…
Never going to happen …the colonies have no history … England has
As it happesns the day went very well, and she prformed her part very well
ta ta for now…a cuppa tea and a cucumber sarnie beckons …
regards
Fitvideo
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sorry about the typos…
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Opus
The real basis of the American War of Independence was the inability to the Brits to imagine that Americans might react the same way as themselves to certain situations and provocations.
Ditto 1812. The Battle of NO came after the peace treaty, btw. It did not bring it about but it did stabilize the consensus.
The USA at the outbreak of WW1 was about 40% ethnic German, plus millions of Irish. Coming in at all was a testament to basic fellow feeling.
WW2 – Just how eager were you guys to fight that one? We had appeasers in America as well, because very few on either side of the pond wanted another war until it was very late in the day.
God Save the Queen and alll that…
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Of course England has history. The colonies made them some history.
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Well I suppose you would like to have access to world markets only through American carry trade now wouldn’t you? I suppose you would mind us co-opting your merchant marine when we please either?
Another European historical expert….
An early American POS. Hell even Adam Smith condemned merchant rulers as in East Indies Co. as the worst of all sorts of rule.
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The above was Hamilton, not Adam Smith.
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I posted two comments with links after three weeks of not commenting and both of them ended up being made into posts (expanding the concept). One turned into this post above and the other comment I made was about a new study that said women feel less depressed after unprotected sex.
That’s called “leveraging” one’s time.
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Ya, and when you first came on this board I was the one who passed on to you the idea that ideas are transmitted through social hubs, such as this one, therefore the comments section here was a useful political vehicle.
I’ve also noticed several seeds I’ve planted have sprouted and had cuttings transplanted.
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@Ubermind
“So my woman is hotter than that of a prince. Good.”
A picture is worth a thousand words.
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You guys are acting like chicks.
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@xsplat
You were correct.
1.5 years ago, the PUA scene was pro-feminist in the following ways that commenters like you and a half dozen others, including the editor of Inmalafide, helped to change:
1) Blame the Male – It used to be that if a man reported a game failure on the PUA scene, he was slammed as not having been worthy of the woman. Now it’s universally understood that he hadn’t gotten around a dumb hamster.
2) PUAs Should Retire at 35 and Marry + Age difference dating is bad – About 1.5 years ago being a PUA was thought of like being a pro athlete. You were supposed to enter Marriage 2.0 with a hottie that you’d gamed before you turned 40 or else you’d be thought of as an old loser. You were not supposed to seriously consider dating someone more than 10-15 years younger.
This PUA attitude was not much of a threat to older women. PUA commenters were mostly young. Feminists really had no problem with the young PUA scene (or shouldn’t have).
That’s mostly changed now barring inconsistencies among various Chateau guest posters (if there’s only one blogger, he’s got a split personality).
3) No man with a harem would pay for a lap dance for extra action on the side.
This attitude didn’t make sense except it sure made feminists and social cons happy.
France and Israel are now moving to follow Sweden by criminalizing men for paying for sexual activity (because the fems and social cons say this “exploits women”) so it’s only been in the nick of time that guys on the PUA scene are aware that it’s not cool to let those who themselves don’t want sex with young women take men’s options away.
Formerly, PUAs were ready to sacrifice their rights in order to look “cool” or “alpha”.
4) Foreign women are inferior to American women if for no other reason than they are less of a challenge.
This was the main PUA attitude 1.5 years ago.
That’s mostly changed now.
The changes in attitudes to all of the above have been remarkable and recent.
Inmalafide is now the best blog for PUA/MRAs while this blog might still be the best for those only interested in game. Where more work has to be done for those who want to stick around commenting here is in reminding the Chateau that feminists on the left are not the only threat to PUAs. There’s just as big a threat from the right. It is Fox News, not CNN, that is calling for more criminalization of male sexual activity.
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Living in London, the public outpouring of deference and servility has genuinely startled me. I knew there would be fuss about today but I had no idea that it would be this bad. Of course it’s essentially the women of the nation obsessing about Kate, her dress and her beauty (which is considerable, but of course being exaggerated crazily as the female hormones loosen their carriers’ already shaky grip on reality). I don’t know any men who really care about it that much.
The women have virtually ALL gone absolutely nuts for it, including, variously, otherwise level-headed, sensible, unfeminine and uninterested ones. The fantasy of the fairytale wedding to the prince is just too powerful for any of them to resist.
Clearly, royal weddings are the ultimate spectator sport for women – their behaviour is uncannily like that of football supporters on the day of a major final that their team is playing in. There’s genuine fervour and fanaticism in the faces of some of the imbeciles being interviewed on the tv.
I was at university with them and they seem like a fairly genuine, nice couple, but there’s no disguising the glint in her eye. “Jackpot”, it says. But she’d better enjoy today because it’s certainly the high point of her life as a royal. I can’t think of a single woman who has married successfully into that family. The one possible exception is Sophie, wife of Edward, the least important and most gay member of the current monarch’s brood, but no one cares much about them and I’m pretty sure they’ll end up divorced in ca. 10 years anyway.
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She broke up with him for a time, so she could go party with alpha cock. She’s a total cunt whore.
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Royal Weddings are the ultimate female Fantasy, whereas their opposite (‘Enders, The Street) are about the realities of life – fighting, divorcing, whoring. Like the Lottery, every girl thinks it could have been her, and in the case of Miss Middleton it was.
I fear (unless she has some stoicism and control) the rest of her married life will be one long come-down from this day of Triumph – notice it is not a triumph for William as any pretty, slim girl would have done as well in the part of Bride. Let’s hope she is a good wife and that he enjoys being married, at least enough to avoid having a mistress.
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RedEmperor – “Kate Middleton is a high 8. She’ll age well too if her mother is any indicator”.
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Oh fuck off.
Average skin, bony jaw, thin lips….your a fucking retard if you think she a high 8.
I’d give her 6.5 at BEST.
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In fact…I’d bone the mother before i’d bone her.
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Fair enough, but to William (or Middleton’s) credit, after one of their breakups she turned down 8 figure offers for her story. THAT’S why he’s marrying her.
[Editor: Noted. As has been written here before many times, the marriage market, while overlapping in some fundamental ways, does not occupy the same sphere as the dating market. Men looking for marriage tend to emphasize personality traits and loyalty in women more than men just shagging around. Of course, a woman’s looks are still her strongest asset, and Middleton is no slouch in that department, but men will cast a more critical eye on any character failings of a woman if they are deciding whether to invest more in her.]
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Kate Middleton
On her looks, I observe how well a tight body, long healthy looking hair, and good complexion can keep things in order. Imagine her appearance if she were to violate these principles as so many a haus frau does. I do give her credit for really wringing out a lot of beauty from nature that did not give to her so outlandishly.
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Heh,
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I don’t have time to read all the comments but: no one seems to have thought that maybe he was pressured by his family/society to marry for image-sake. She was bascially at the right place at the right time.
He feels pressure to produce heirs. He will have mistresses no doubt about that! The unwillingness to wear a ring has me baffled though. There is no one on earth who doesn’t know he is married now. (My dad would frequently take his off when he was on the down low, but his marriage to my mom wasn’t on national television for billions to see.)
I wonder if the marriage is more of a business deal in other words…he may be much more alpha than you guys are giving him credit for.
You guys are slipping: if I as a woman can point out a new viewpoint you guys haven’t considered them you all need to get out of the house more.
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@ chameleon
A friend of mine saw Carmen Electra at a Super Bowl party in February of ’09 in Tampa and said she had become grotesque.
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Nice touch with the “swarthy southerner” line, shiteyes.
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Timothy Webster
I was just looking at that. Answer seems to be between 0 and 2. I’d say most likely one.
She had a bf during her last year in private “public” school/prep school. However she was a very disciplined and high achieving girl both academically and athletically. Everyone thought her a very good type girl. Her mother was/is also quite a social climber.
She had another bf for somewhat less than a year before she got intimate with Prince William at St. Andrews University, where she was again high performing academically and athletically and was considered a very good well behaved girl. The guy was 2-3 years older and seems kinda alpha by what he’s done since. I’d guess she did have sex with him to keep him.
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Live together gf insisted on watching Royal Wedding highlights and then more of them tonight. Maybe I should have gone out with some other guys. Well I only watched some of it.
But hell. Kate Middleton is beautiful This was the first time I’ve seen video of her. Only some pics before. Video is more revealing. She’s definitely some kind of 8. Probably an 8.5. Yeah she’s aging and will drop to an 8 before long. But she’s way doable. Very appropriate princess material. Way hotter than Diana ever was.
Roissy’s 7 soon to be 6 is LAUGHABLE.
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And I’m including Diana at 20.
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Zunder–
Internet beta wanker.
she’s some kind of 8 without doubt.
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@eric
“However, if I just destroy your left frontal lobe, you’ll lose your rationality. This is the area of the brain they used to take out with lobotomies – to make nice stepford wives. These women could actually continue to function in society. They would take care of their children, they’d fuck their husbands, they just couldn’t carry on a conversation. It’s kind of sick really.”
Do you have any exact diagrams or links to data about this kind of surgery?
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I dig this website, but really….most of you guys criticising are WAY off point and take the alpha acting thing WAY too militantly.
As one rational commenter above put it, the dude is the royal family – watch what happens when push comes to shove – who do you REALLY think is gonna win?
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Britain is a BETA nation.
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Sad B
That must the reason why, when a French airline pilot talks to a Russian Air Traffic Controller he speaks… English.
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@Doug,
You’re right. Her quality is obvious on video — she doesn’t always photograph well.
The idea that she’s fair to middling is duh duh duh dumb.
Quality piece of ass. Period.
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I didn’t think Kate Middleton was all that attractive before, but she looked good in the wedding, especially with the cleavage-accentuating outfit she was wearing during part of the ceremony.
I don’t think the vows are all that important. Middleton’s family aren’t aristocrats. They don’t have pedigree. They’re wealthy social climbers. Kate Middleton is likely to stay married and loyal to Prince William longer than Diana to Charles because of family pressure. I’m sure her parents really want to be accepted into the royal/aristocratic circle and this marriage is their ticket. Princess Diana could afford to divorce Prince Charles and behave however she wanted because she was born an aristocrat.
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@Mike
“I have dated and regularly meet super hot bimbos but the minute they opened their mouth and spoke I was totally turned off. I have even briefly dated a penthouse playmate and she was stupid.”
This is what ballgags are for.
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Also, the drool is cool.
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Doug 1: Anytime fuckface.
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@Opus
We weren’t fighting the Vietnamese, we were fighting the Russians, and we won, idiot.
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who needs a bunch of luxury welfare sucking ingrates who need servants to wipe their asses?
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/11/16/1037080965729.html
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she is definitely a 7 and ill break it down for you why:
shes 29, this knocks a point off her right off the bat
she has a man jaw, another point knocked off
she does not have a curvaceous feminine body (narrow hips, no ass) another point knocked off
thin upper lip, another point knocked off
weird chin, another point knocked off
teeth are far from perfect, point knocked off
leathery skin that will not age well, point knocked off
i could probably continue here but ive established my point clearly: SHE IS NOWHERE NEAR PHYSICAL PERFECTION
shes a 7, who was an 8 at her peak, period.
that said, i will say she has beautiful eyes and a captivating smile with very long luscious hair. she is also slim but honestly i think its lame to give girls points for being slim. that should be a given.
im just not seeing what puts her into anything above 8 territory at her peak.
taking my perfect 10 (monica bellucci at her peak)
perfect face
perfect curvaceous body
perfect skin
perfect teeth
add to that out of this world sexiness there is no way on gods green earth that kate middlteon even approaches monica at her peak.
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RAF pilots aren’t betas. Period.
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I agree with Julian and would give Catherine the range of a high 7 or low 8 based only on the still photos. I haven’t seen video, and her other possible good personality/character traits may push that up a half-point. But she’s certainly at or beyond her peak physical beauty.
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As she ages I think she’ll settle at high 6 to low 7 for whatever age she’s at. Middle aged English women aren’t known for their beauty. I can’t think of any ever on par with a Monica Belluci, Sophia Loren, or Grace Kelly.
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Have to agree with amnes1ac – as far as British society is concerned Kate has won. Top achiever par excellence. Every woman in the land is jealous of her. Social climber family extraordinaire…
My female relatives got up at 8AM to watch the wedding. None of the men did.
I did notice how he kept commenting to her and looking at her whereas she was largely ignoring him. Wasn’t really the behaviour of a King.
Guys, don’t forgot this is England. Kate would definitely be in the top %5 of good looking girls here. A man would never have been able to climb socially like she has done, so proof if needed that female looks can pull strings for you.
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Lol, “internet wanker” at arguing 1 or 2 points on a looks scale. And to think some of you are grown men, at least physically, anyay.
Look, news flash, men don’t always agree within 0.1 decimal points on how attractive a woman is. If you like the refined british look, she might be a nine, if you like smolderingly evident sexuality she might be a six or even a five. Whatever.
To think that you people would actually be arguing about this, much less getting angry about it. Go do something with your lives.
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^^^Attraction scales are remarkably predictable, as has been shown with Roissy’s own occasional “rate them” posts. That guys have varying personal preferences doesn’t disprove that.
Put up a list of varied (1-10) female headshots and the majority of men are going to go for the same two or three women without much argument. When someone finds a consensus-rated 6-7 woman to be a 10, it’s usually because they have an outlier fetish (i.e. for Japanese babydolls or for mannish Brits).
Rating on a scale is a shorthand tool when discussing female beauty. The finer points are enjoyable to debate because we enjoy discussing female hotness or notness.
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