Hand holding involves a dominant and a submissive hand position. The dominant hand is the one over the top of the other hand, with the palm facing backward.
Women prefer the submissive postures in relationships. It is their subconscious preference, as it is men’s preference to assume the role of the dominant partner. Try it sometime with your girlfriend. Hold her hand in the reverse, where your palm faces forward like in the pic above. You will find your unconscious revolting against the act, a silent scream crying out from the cellar of your mind, begging for relief from the jarring oscillation to its rhythmic pulse.
William has subverted this natural predilection and holds Kate’s hand in the submissive posture. I predict she will cheat on him before her 38th birthday.
second the chateau’s opinion.
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Might this be excused by the “handicap principle?” He is the Prince after all.
Just being devil’s advocate.
[Editor: Yes. But each handicap he burdens himself with moves Kate closer to resentful bitch wife territory. William should tread carefully and not overplay his hand.]
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I think the prediction is pretty good. His princeness probably doesn’t have much of an effect on her anymore, but her new found status will hold her interest for a while. At the very least she won’t find other men interesting until she gets used to being near the top of the status chain herself. After that she’ll put some effort into staying true, but it won’t last forever.
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furthermore, where is she looking? at something in the distance.
where is he looking? at her.
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I don’t know Chateau, might you be “reaching” a bit on this one?
Growing up my dad did things to make it SEEM like my mom was in charge, but it was all an act. to compensate for the fact that he was basically a tyrant accountable to no one but white people.
And my mom was not going to them and neither were any of us.
“go ask your mother” was always his reply to anything we asked his permission to do.
It was all an act to make himself seem like the perfect gentleman to the people that mattered. My mom had no power and she knew it. He could have raped my sisters and she would not have done a damn thing about it.
Don’t be fooled.
We all know what happened to Princess Di.
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Of note: a google image search for “holding hands” doesn’t turn up any other male/female couples in that configuration. That’s how rare it is.
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His arm is much straighter and her wrist is bent, as if he were about to get her to change direction or he had just grabbed her hand. Not so clear cut to me.
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Kate is a high-T woman, from the looks of her and her body language. Not so easy to dominate, but perhaps a better match for some.
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Yes,
but he’ll be cheating on her within a year or so….
remember…. he the still the Prince
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to the author.
so you already know how their relationship is going to end based on one akward picture?
[Editor: Yes.]
is overanalyzing and keyboard masturbation a hobby you found to fill in your boring work hours in the office? alpha male my ass.
[I’m a big fan of the ‘myass’ school of argument.]
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They may still be in the stage of showing off her expensive rings…
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His brother will be the one that lets him Know his new wife is no good. His bother will probably have somebody beat her ass.
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I further predict that her and a new stud will be having dinners and banging in hotel rooms paid for from Williams wealth.
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I’ve tried the backwards hand with my wife and not only does it feel extremely awkward but she protested too because of how awkward it felt. Good post!
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Thanks for the link to the other post. It assures me that all is not lost for men to be men. Fuck humor and wit, I’ve got testosterone. Now if only women would stop complicating shit. Or rather, the ones that do can go fuck themselves. I’ll happily please the real women. It is only natural.
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I thought being born in a Royal family will make you alpha by nurture…….I guess not.
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Holding hands is beta. Make her hold your arm.
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“Kate is a high-T woman, from the looks of her and her body language.”
High T? Why the fuck do people keep repeating this shit?
She is malnourished, probably because some gay fashion designer told her she needed to lose weight to look good in her wedding dress. Her jaw bone juts out because she has no body fat to cover it up. To have a soft round-feminine face a woman has to have a modest amount of body fat.
[Ed: I suspect she was exposed to prenatal high T. Check out her hips. They’re very narrow for a woman. The rest of her figure is fine. She’s a nice, slender woman.]
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he’s not looking at her. he’s looking well ahead and past her, probably at some photog calling out to him.
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[Ed: I suspect she was exposed to prenatal high T. Check out her hips. They’re very narrow for a woman. The rest of her figure is fine. She’s a nice, slender woman.]
I don’t think she is naturally that slender. The average body fat for a fit woman is around 20%, add a normal amount of lean body mass (for a girl) and she would be much fuller figuredl. Not fat by any stretch, but not concentration camp-esque.
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The British royal family is incredibly goofy looking. All of their eyes are so close together, and I never see a picture of one that isn’t making the herp-derp face. I think this must be the evidence of centuries of inbreeding; it’s much more apparent in the older princes, so maybe Diana’s fresh genetics nullified it somewhat (but only somewhat).
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What do you expect?
His dad is a slave to a horse-faced witch, whom he used as a replacement for family love he never had. Super omega Charles, to whom his grandma denies the crown.
His mom was a slut, and over-protected him. She was later murdered by his own grandpa’s orders.
Grandma directed every step of his life after Di was killed.
It is amazing he is not a psycho. Women ruled over this prince, he never had a male role model. Philip is a nazi who never cared for Charles and used to beat him. The first strong girl he met , he fell for her.
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Inbreeding…think the Hapsburg jaw, like the one in Philip of Spain and several others in the family. the guy could hardly speak.
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Well spotted on the hand-holding, but in the context of the overall body language pattern it reminds me more of the way a mother holds a child’s hand than anything else.
I think there’s a strong maternal component in this relationship – probably understandable. In this particular case it might actually help it last rather than the reverse.
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Women always dominated Prince Bill’s life.
First his mother over-protected him, against the crazy royal family. after she was killed by Philip, his grandma took absolue control of his life.
He never had a male role model.
Charles was a beaten, shy kid who never knew family love. Horse faced Camila is a substitute mother. Philip is a real Nazi and eugenicist.
This is Jerry Springer level of disfunctionality. Diana was a super slut, with a different lover every couple of months. his brother is a bastard.
It is amazing Prince Bill is not crazy.
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Sorry for the double post.
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Diana Spencer. She was just a pretty day care worker that caught Charles eye one day when he visited the orphanage where she worked, right?
Except that her brother is an Earl and the Spencers have a much older history of prominence in British affairs than the Windsors and in general have more money.
I think fresh genes can be a good thing. But for the Brit ruling class that has mostly meant marrying the daughters of rich Americans.
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OOOOOOHHHHH
was my reaction.
William is a total beta then… jesus.. is holding hands like that even comfortable? No.
Sucks. I give it 6 months to a year then.
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Kate was repulsed by his beta nature from the very beginning. Why is he a beta? Well, anyone born in his situation is likely a beta. His status wasn’t earned, and his personality was locked in shackles from the very beginning. He was born and bred to behave like a well-mannered goodie-goodie nice guy from the very beginning. He represents the epitome of the Sweet Prince/Knight in Shining Armor that women have been brainwashed to love from the time they watched Snow White and Cinderella at the age of 4.
His title/status makes him the perfect provider, so he might be left with the best leftovers the sexual market gives him, but he is STILL a beta in the end.
She’s already thinking of cheating on him with some douchebag bouncer.
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I guess you need to post something… Will and Kate, srsly? Indeed, “learn the basics, leave the community”.
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He’s treating her like some sort of princess.
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So let’s say his marriage is doomed and Queen Middleton wants a divorce. Say she doesn’t love him anymore or she caught him scoring some strange.
Do you think he’ll get raped in divorce or do you think he’ll get away with it because he’s a royal?
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Is the royal marriage doomed? I think not.
If there were a normal couple, you could be right if this were habitual. But for THE royal couple in direct line to the throne … It will only be doomed if one or the other engages openly in any affair.
Remember hypergamy. She really can’t do much better than marrying the future king of England. As long as he doesn’t turn out to be a huge loser like Charles, she’ll stay. And there is the suspicious death of Diana to keep her in line …
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That picture may be an aberration. Here is another shot from the same time with Willy in the dominant hand holding position.
http://www.theage.com.au/lifestyle/royal-wedding/newlyweds-aim-to-let-the-heat-die-down-20110501-1e32z.html
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I found an interesting photo-shopped picture that best explains the dynamic of the royal marriage.
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http://dissention.wordpress.com/2011/04/30/lol-april-30-2011/
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Only a yank would write this post.
The Brit royals haven’t kept their pants on since the Norman Conquest. Big deal!
The only rule of ‘the Firm’, as the royals refer to themselves, is keeping your mouth shut.
I’m Irish btw but I know how the Brits tick.
Their royals get up to all kindsa shenanigans.
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That’s fucked up about the hand holding. Dude should know better.
But, on the other hand, he got married and refused to wear a ring! He gave her a ring, and refused to wear one himself.
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More evidence it’s doomed:
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I gotta ask. From what I’ve seen, shaking someone’s hand with your palm facing up is more dominant, as is extending your hand to someone to help her get up. Look at how in control the Terminator looks:
The Prince really doesn’t look like he’s in charge, but I’m wondering if the same rule applies to handshakes.
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I’m betting she lubes her strapon with her left hand, and laughs like a schoolgirl when she beats on his prostate like a punching bag.
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“I predict she will cheat on him before her 38th birthday.”
That’s what, next week? She already looks 37.
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He’s got so much alpha cred to spare that stuff like this doesn’t matter.
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So I just brought up the hand-holding thing with my sister. She pointed out that, if she was holding hand with her left hand, she would have it in the submissive position, but if it was with her right hand, she would want it in the dominant position, and the reason is that she is right-handed, and putting her right hand in the submissive position feels “creepy” to her. Which is also why she prefers not to hold hands with her right hand. And when men and women hold hands, in most cases, the man is on the left – and most people are right-handed. Thus the pattern of the man’s hand being in front.
Having looked at the photo, she also agrees that that is not a natural position for the bride’s left arm, and that the new Duchess is probably right-handed. Therefore the question is, is William left-handed.
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You know that Western Civilization is really going to hell-in-a-handbasket when a rather average, plain-jane female commoner marries a Prince, the future King of England and Great Britain – and acts like she is the fucking prize.
How utterly dreadful 😦
Oh England – how you have fallen so hard and so fast from your former greatness and glory.
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@Rollory..
William is left handed.
http://www.anythingleft-handed.co.uk/p-prince-william.html
I don’t think it matters though. The way a couple holds hands is a sign of how healthy the relationship is.
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I think the prince is a closet homo and they just married him off the the closest available cat woman so as to not tarnish the crown…yeah its doom cause hes fag and shes a jew who will kill him in the next 5-10 years and then shes queen of bloody england yall.
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dude, chill
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704463804576291181510459902.html
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This story is not over. Big changes might come by soon. The Queen might have already said to the assembled clan that she approves in advance Charles “freely made” offer to abdicate at the time of her death, thus clearing the way in a selfless manor for helping to bring the right sort of Royal Family to the fore front. The Right Sort being young, fertile, with some healthy bouncing heirs, all of them masssively photogenic.
William as Sole Crowned Head of the Empire will undoubtedly feel his testicles grow to thrice their normal size within a week or two. For confirmative evidence, read what normally happened the personalitys of the medieval Popes after their elevation. Monk to untroubled mass murder is surprissig trasnsitiom
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This seems out of context? Here they are during the same photo op. with his hand in the dominant position:
I’m not sure Kate wasn’t grabbing on to him or showing off the ring, hence the above photo, and that they didn’t self-correct shortly after.
Also, the media I would guess tend to select the photos showing him gazing lovingly at her, which sells copy – the girlhood fairytale of winning the prince’s (alpha’s) love coming true.
For example, here at another event she is looking at him and he’s not really looking at her:
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/people/news/article_1634541.php/Archbishop-of-Canterbury-Prince-William-and-Kate-Middleton-know-what-matters
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Two of her exes were in attendance (i.e. two dudes who have ejaculated on/in her). Obviously she stays friends with her exes.
He’s not beta. He’s Omega. The only thing that will keep her from going astray is the knowledge of what happens to women in that family who do cheat.
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Jason:
Two of her exes were in attendance (i.e. two dudes who have ejaculated on/in her). Obviously she stays friends with her exes.
She is an utter pig.
He’s not beta. He’s Omega. …
If Prince William indeed tolerates this behavior (which he certainly seems to be doing time and time again), then yes, he certainly is an Omega — and a lesser one at that.
I am still completely floored that the Crown Prince of the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland is accepting of this atrocious behavior on the part of a commoner — a commoner who he should never have married in the first place — let alone ‘dated’.
*I guess this is part-n-parcel of the New World Order’s plan in making any and all White, Western Aryan elites as common and trashy as their proletariat mAsses.
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william is holding her hand by protokol (the way they taught him). For should they raise their hands, they come in a position in which man is leading his lady, rather than she him
Oh and why so certant their mariage is doomed, resolving in her cheating?
After all Diana was a perfect submisive wife by your standards. We all know how that ended. Lady Katerine has perhaps shown us dominance, but I do wonder if it is that because she is uncomfortable with the protokol hundreds of years old, rather than her beeing in charge of this relationship.
Besides no royal member will let this one be the fiasco.
And please writer stop trying to analise world you can not uderstand and are not part of. Rather stick to what you know and are good at. Namely your AMERICAN sluts.
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@ mucios: he is NOT looking at her! Look at his eyes closely, they are faced in dhe distance behind the cuple.
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Harry is the real alpha. Look at this:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/royalwedding/3558270/Royal-Wedding-reception-included-jokes-about-balding-William-and-tables-named-after-key-places.html?OTC-RSS&ATTR=Royal+Wedding
He took over the party and danced with the brides sister and various skanks while his girlfriend watched from afar, seething with jealousy.
If only Harry had been the older brother.
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The true Aplha male of that pack of inbred Freemasons HRH The Queen.
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The pic pretty much says it all. H’es pussy-whipped. He looks like a goddamn woman.
I don’t care how masculine Kate could be – William should be the more dominant son of a bitch and make her masculinity shit disappear for good.
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with hypergamy, the only guy more alpha than someone named “Prince” is another guy named “Prince”. I could see Harry banging her doggystyle, smaking that tight ass
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As much as I agree with the hand holding gesture, I thought Chateau was blowing the royal marriage a little out of proportion.
Until I watched a few video recaps. William is continuously the one leaning in, and looking towards the other. Kate never does, and is looking dead ahead most of the time that he’s lovingly looking at her. It is indeed a matter of time.
Harry, on the other hand, has player potential. I wonder how much of that we don’t see due to censorship.
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[…] later, you medieval-minded retards are worshipping them again? Especially since that dolt William married an aging commoner? At least Edward VIII had the good sense to abdicate. So much for life, liberty, and the pursuit […]
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Go back to the earlier photo (caption pic). I’m pretty sure it was Harry having his cock sucked (he was hidden just below the balony).
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A contest for all UK readers to prove who is the ultimate alpha: First one to fuck your future Queen.
Double bonus points if you steal some crown jewels on the way out.
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/royalwedding/3558270/Royal-Wedding-reception-included-jokes-about-balding-William-and-tables-named-after-key-places.html?OTC-RSS&ATTR=Royal+Wedding
Check out that bodyguard checking out Kate’s sister’s arse. What are the chances he’ll tap that? Being a bodyguard to royalty is pretty bad ass.
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Pippa Middleton’s arse has been getting an awful lot of attention since the wedding. Personally, I still haven’t managed to find it.
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Christ, you don’t have to do photo-psycho-analysis. All celebrity marriages (which includes Royals these days) come pre-doomed.
Either the bride will freak out from the constant publicity, or she’ll eat it up. Neither is a recipe for a stable marriage.
Prediction: one kid, then Splitsville. Out of courtesy she gets the “style and dignity” of a Princess for life, hooks up with a couple of rockers and finally marries some rich foreign dude. And she’ll be Queen of the Tabloids forever.
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“William has subverted this natural predilection and holds Kate’s hand in the submissive posture. I predict she will cheat on him before her 38th birthday”
we ll then, do a good deed and send the man a link to your assholery post, some machiavellian and dark triad behavior should ignite the gina tingles.
I think a change of social circles maybe a prerequisite if im to tap that fine pippa ass. Oh i do love a challange.
CO
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Besides feeling awkward that position also hurts.
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This is really a classic trap. His status more or less does not even bring to mind having to do anything about girls. Every girl wants you so what is the problem? Now he is sort of boxed in. Its like being a sharp shooter at a 1000 yards but with no skills in hand to hand combat. Sort of the inverse of Adler’s organ inferiority-compensation.
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The truth is the taller person is more comfortable in the upper hand position owing to the anatomy of the arm. That is why it feels weird to a guy – they are most always taller.
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Handicap principle myass! She’s a princess now, bitches!
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@rum
“This story is not over. Big changes might come by soon. The Queen might have already said to the assembled clan that she approves in advance Charles “freely made” offer to abdicate at the time of her death, thus clearing the way in a selfless manor for helping to bring the right sort of Royal Family to the fore front. The Right Sort being young, fertile, with some healthy bouncing heirs, all of them masssively photogenic.”
William is the combination of Stuart (Diana) and Hanover/Windsor (Charles); all that matters is that he reproduce. This is why Chuck and Di was arranged, and why Harry’s father not being Charles doesn’t matter.
http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/lucifers_destiny.htm
P.S.
Kate’s nipples are REALLY hard when she gets out of the carriage and walks into the building (she keeps tugging on her veil cuz it keeps catching on them).
http://video.foxnews.com/v/4668701/kate-middleton-enters-westminster-abbey/
P.P.S.
For Pippa’s boobs to remain that nice even after the pre-wedding diet that made her butt so flat means if she gained back just 10 lbs she’d be freakin hot!
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Yeah… I don’t agree. No matter whose hand is on top, he’s definitely got the power grip here. Disagree? Think about it, curls are easier to do than triceps extensions. Given a power struggle, his grip would give him more power and control than hers.
Not making any predictions on their marriage, though.
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Didn’t read all the comments, but here is a photo with their hands reversed (William is leading). Same day based on the clothes.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1382563/ROYAL-WEDDING-Kates-lesson-Who-curtsey-whom.html
FYI, William needs to get his shirts ironed. Either it’s a new shirt, or one that was folded for a suitcase/drawer storage.
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The picture posted is a one-off shot, and it’s not really something to base such a large prediction on.
Here’s a better shot supporting Chateau’s point:
http://anmblog.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c565553ef014e8833a987970d-pi
Notice how Middleton dominates the picture. William looks like one of the kids. A better portrait would have had her seated on a chair, with train spread out, but balanced by having him stand behind and over her. The cherubs could then be distributed on the floor.
In fairness, this is a standard shot these days. The palace should have tossed this one out, though.
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I suspect she was exposed to prenatal high T.
check out her ring finger too, it’s longer than her index. plenty of pictures around because of her ring.
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even though it’s only one picture, this has never happened with me, and i have only seen it with other people in public twice; both times the guys had feminine faces and were dating obese chicks.
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The eyes are another signal. Hers eyes are icy, hard and calculating. The adding machine is whirling away in her head. His eyes have this glassy, awe shucks, Gomer Pile look to them. He is the sheep. She the wolf.
Kate is going to dominate that relationship on her terms, unless the Queen bitch slaps her into place.
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Money on this guy having some tail on the side- already.
Handholding or not.
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The worst beta will fuck around if you give him money, time, and idle hands. And there are plenty of chicks who will gladly fuck the future beta king of England.
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Jeffrey of Troy
http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/lucifers_destiny.htm
…. thanks for that hilarious link.
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Now versus then:
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William is adorable. I love the way he sneaked a glance at Kate during the ceremony……awwww! soooooo sweeet.
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Pass the bong…. this dude is out of her league and should be doing the normal eurotrash royalty schtik and be banging runways models three at a time. She’s aging poorly and will NEVER do any better. She’s got too much to lose and isn’t that stupid. No chance she will cheat with the british press. Billy is charismatic and adonis like with minor beta traits… daddy charles is an eccentric little odd man asking to be cheated upon.
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@rollory – “So I just brought up the hand-holding thing with my sister. She pointed out that, if she was holding hand with her left hand, she would have it in the submissive position, but if it was with her right hand, she would want it in the dominant position, and the reason is that she is right-handed, and putting her right hand in the submissive position feels ‘creepy’ to her.”
i’m right-handed and i always walk on the left side of my husband (of anybody, in fact) and i CAN’T STAND holding hands with him in the dominant position. that’s just WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.
on the other hand (*ahem*), i do hold a child’s hand with my hand in the dominant position — ’cause in that case i am the dominant primate. (~_^)
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and now it’s in the British press that William will be posted to the Falklands for two and a half months….
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Lol. Well, the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. Look at the horse faced monstrosity his dad was cheating on his mom with! Didn’t he get caught saying he wanted to be her tampon or something? I mean, the idea of the crown prince licking chooch; especially such a nasty one -that shit is just wrong.
Mrs. Kate is pretty atrocious looking; her face is all lined up, her physique and jawline mannish.
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He’s actually “leading” her. Notice the bend in her wrist. Her arm may be over the top, but he is directing her where to go. Very subtle.
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What if, when holding hands while sharing the middle armrest, the man’s hand would be too heavy not to mention less able to benefit from there being an armrest at all – the couple elects to have the (hopefully) smaller hand and wrist of the woman atop that of the man she is with?
Being right or left handed matters little, but there are always exceptions.
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thinking. way. too. much.
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Gooooooood science! This is right up there with people who wear tinfoil hats so that the government won’t steal their brain waves.
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salient point re that pic Roissy
i noticed a similar thing during the ceremony (yes, i watched it) see pic number 82 here:
http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/oOMpekidD50/Royal+Wedding+2/t90-r9rxqSC/Kate+Middleton
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Funny thing, after reading your first post on hand holding, my girlfriend was walking next to me on a night out, and as she brushed her hand against mine, we locked hands for a second in the “unnatural” way…
I quickly released her hand saying: “Oops, wrong way…”
She looked at me, amused, and said “There’s a ‘right’ way?” – I replied “Of course, let me show you…”, and resumed our previous handgrip. She literally SHUDDERED after a second, and quickly resumed holding my hand from the rear.
“I guess there IS a right way.” she quipped after a few moments, smiling all the way home…
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Are you kidding?
That’s exactly the hand position I take with my girlfriends. Firstly, it requires far less effort from me. (See how the girl’s position is awkward, to accommodate the man?)
Secondly, with only a small twisting motion, she’s basically in a wrist lock, which you can use to “steer” her around, with a minimum of motion. It may look like she’s in control, but looks are deceiving.
Having said that, I’m only defending the hand position, not the wedding. I could give two shits about the royal family, and I tend to sympathize with the blog’s author on the subject of marriage.
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Besides, over or under, I’ve got more strength in my hand and wrist than she does in her whole arm. I doubt there’s ever a moment when we’re holding hands that she feels dominant.
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