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Science Validates Another Game Concept

May 6, 2011 by CH

A study says that men and women say ‘I love you’ for different reasons.

Women, being from Venus, have a reputation for being the first to spring “I love you” in romantic relationships.

But men actually are more likely to utter those three loaded little words first, and men admit thinking about confessing love six weeks earlier than their female partners, according to an article to be published in the June issue of the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology.

That doesn’t mean men are bigger saps. Taking an “evolutionary-economics” perspective, the article concludes that gender differences in the timing and function of saying “I love you” are related to whether a couple has had sex.

“Men may be more impulsive in the way they express love, but what love means to men and what love means to women may be very different,” said co-author Josh Ackerman, assistant professor of marketing at MIT Sloan School of Management.

In a series of surveys, researchers found that two-thirds of couples report that the man was first in confessing love. Men also reported being significantly happier than women to hear “I love you” one month into the relationship if they had not yet had sex, while women felt happier than men when they heard “I love you” after the onset of sex in the relationship.

The researchers theorized that a pre-sex love confession may signal interest in advancing the relationship to include sexual activity – which is what men want, evolutionarily speaking, so as not to lose an opportunity to spread their genes. They want to “buy low,” as the article put it. Women, who have more to lose if they get pregnant, prefer a post-sex confession as a signal of long-term commitment. They prefer to “sell high.”

Furthering the point, the men happiest to get a pre-sex love confession were those interested in a short-term fling, while both men and women seeking a long-term relationship were happier hearing “I love you” post-sex.

Despite birth control and egalitarian values in modern society, these primitive patterns persist in the subconscious, Ackerman said.

The researchers hope exposing the biological underpinnings of these behaviors can help people understand the hidden meanings and motivations behind professions of love, which are ripe for misinterpretation.

So what is this study telling us as it relates to game? You have to read between the lines a little, but basically it’s saying that expressions of love are intimately tied up with men’s and women’s sexual market value. Women who wait to say ‘I love you’ until after the man has said it are subcommunicating their higher value. (A high value woman juggles interest from many men, and can make a man wait for sex much longer than he is comfortable until she is satisfied his commitment to her is genuine.) In contrast, men who rush to say ‘I love you’ subcommunicate their urgency to extract sex, and thus their lower value. (A high value man is never urgent for sex because he is getting all the sex he needs from other women in his informal harem.)

This study dovetails with the very first, and probably most important, Poon Commandment:

I. Never say ‘I Love You’ first

Women want to feel like they have to overcome obstacles to win a man’s heart. They crave the challenge of capturing the interest of a man who has other women competing for his attention, and eventually prevailing over his grudging reluctance to award his committed exclusivity. The man who gives his emotional world away too easily robs women of the satisfaction of earning his love. Though you may be in love with her, don’t say it before she has said it. Show compassionate restraint for her need to struggle toward yin fulfillment. Inspire her to take the leap for you, and she’ll return the favor a thousandfold.

As a man, the ideal time to say ‘I love you’ (assuming you mean it) is after your lover has confessed it to you, preferably a few weeks to months after her initial confession. Doing so will create the perception in her mind that you are higher value than her, and as anyone who doesn’t live under a rock or reside in the halls of academia knows by now women most desire men who are higher status than themselves.

Chicks dig power, men dig beauty.

One of the fundamental principles upon which many game concepts rest is the ease with which women can be seduced if you flip the script and make a concerted effort to refrain from playing the conventional courtship role of your gender. For men, this means *not* being the sex-hungry, needy beta who blurts out ‘I love you’ after two dates in hopes it will accelerate the progress to sex. By waiting to say ‘I love you’ only until after she has said it, you demonstrate high value. Her hamster registers this dynamic as: “He must have a lot of options with women if he’s taking so long to find out for himself if he loves me. I LOVE men with options!”

This is what her hamster squeaks when the man says he loves her after two weeks: “Aw how sweet… yuck.”

I can tell you from experience that the girls who were most into me — “into me” is measured as a function of the girl’s emotional distress when I waited more than two hours to return her phone call — were the ones who said they loved me first, and who had to wait a few months more before I replied in kind.

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  1. on May 6, 2011 at 6:21 pm DirkJohanson

    Closing in on 50, and understanding game, I can’t even imagine being the first one to say “I LIKE you” anymore.

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  2. on May 6, 2011 at 6:21 pm DirkJohanson

    PS First!

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  3. on May 6, 2011 at 6:36 pm G.L. Piggy

    You aren’t leaving much meat here for the commentariat; I think you took all the good points in your analysis.

    Since we are the sellers, saying “ILY” first is a classic lemon problem. She’ll wonder why he’s selling so hard if what he is selling is of any value. The lemon problem is overshadowed, though, if the buyer has bad credit. Which then makes it an adverse selection problem – IOW, check her credit.

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  4. on May 6, 2011 at 6:38 pm Samson

    So after a romantic dinner, she takes you to a quiet corner, looks you in the eyes and says “I love you”. Do you say “Thanks!” and walk away, or is there no escape from her set-up?

    [Editor: Depends on the length of the relationship. Under two months? Just smile and kiss her. Over two months? You can tell her you love her. As long as she says it first, you’re in the clear.]

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  5. on May 6, 2011 at 6:39 pm Gendeau

    DJ #1

    nice, somewhat negative(!) but yeah

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  6. on May 6, 2011 at 6:40 pm Gendeau

    Samson – I believe you shag her, then run, not walk…
    ymmv

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  7. on May 6, 2011 at 7:15 pm Dat_Truth_Hurts

    @Samson

    You simply say “that’s great funny face” and give her a noogie. Then take her home and slap her around while fucking in the pile driver.

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  8. on May 6, 2011 at 7:23 pm xsplat

    Got an sms today. “I love you”

    Answered “yes”

    “Sad your answer so simple. I don’t know if you love me or not”

    answered “You don’t know?”

    “he – just kidding – I know”

    answered “ya”

    We’ve been dating about nine months, and lately she just about lives with me.

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  9. on May 6, 2011 at 7:23 pm blert

    When a woman tells her man ILY you must immediately translate from hamstereze: I respect your manliness.

    Resolve yourself: compel her to continually EARN your love — as you maintain alpha poise — impelling her towards respect, even awe.

    This dynamic is very obviously missing from Will & Kate.

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  10. on May 6, 2011 at 7:28 pm Sara

    It’s so hard to say “I love you”, so vulnerable. If 2/3 of men are saying it first, does that mean it’s natural for a man to say it first? I think it might be, men can fall quite quickly when they really like you. I know it feels like a cat has my tongue when I want to say it to a guy first, but I couldn’t take it if he didn’t say it back. Men are stronger to say it first aren’t they?
    It’s like the song Little Bit by Lykke Li

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  11. on May 6, 2011 at 7:30 pm 544

    Just curious, what would you do in this situation?

    Her: I love you

    You: -Standard c&f reply-

    Her: Don’t you love me back??

    You:

    Would more teasing be the way to go?

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  12. on May 6, 2011 at 7:36 pm ritmo rioplatense

    The “who says i love you first” problem is only a problem for people who are SO SERIOUS all the time, about everything, and who come across that way to everyone.

    If you are such a person that no one usually quite knows whether you’re serious or kidding — which is the best kind of person to be, in situations such as these — then you can hit her with “I love you” fifteen minutes or even fifteen seconds after first knowing her, and it will just add to the mood.

    But, yeah, if you’re the deadly-serious type then this is good advice.

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  13. on May 6, 2011 at 7:37 pm G.L. Piggy

    Sara:

    We want to get laid. Saying ILY is just one trick out of the playbook. A man spends sociosexual capital whenever he says it before the woman. He can only hope that he doesn’t fall below the low stochastic band if he says it before he’s had sex with her.

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  14. on May 6, 2011 at 7:44 pm G.L. Piggy

    Samson:

    I wonder if there is a difference in the method which men and women utter ILY. Being the direct sex, when men say it we tend to kind of blurt it out. Being the indirect sex women hint at it and hope that you’ll coax it out of them. They make eyes and begin with stuff like “I’ve been thinking…” or whatever until they force you to force it out of them.

    In other words, I don’t think it happens all that often where a woman just blurts ILY out of the blue. So you’ll rarely be completely cornered into demurring her advances. The trick is to avoid the lead up and the coax. If you see her heading in that direction, deflect.

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  15. on May 6, 2011 at 7:44 pm ritmo rioplatense

    GL Piggy, have you ever played a card game called hearts? In that game, the best possible hand is the one in which you collect ALL the cards of ostensibly lowest value.

    The same is true for early declarations of passionate love, provided that you are not an awkward spaz — throwing it all out there can definitely work in your favor. Shooting the moon, as it were.

    [Editor: This is akin to the handicap principle. A beta would be ill-advised to run this sort of direct ILY game. But an alpha can get away with it because he’s already interacting from a perch above her. Note I said “get away with”. This does not mean that is the optimal path for the alpha to take. One too many beta moves and suddenly the alpha is no longer so alpha.]

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  16. on May 6, 2011 at 8:03 pm G.L. Piggy

    ritmo:

    but what happens when you fail to shoot the moon? you’re pretty much screwed, right? i mean, that is the point of the game. forsake it all for love or whatever it is that you’re after.

    from a purely pragmantic non-romantic standpoint shooting the moon is not a great strategy. i think Game is nothing if not realistic, pragmatic and thus, non-romantic.

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  17. on May 6, 2011 at 8:03 pm mister

    what if you are first to tell her you love her, and she says she knew she was in love earlier but was afraid to tell you because you might not be in love with her in return?

    [Editor: Is she being sincere? Then take it as in indication that you waited a suitable length of time before dropping the ILY bomb.]

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  18. on May 6, 2011 at 8:11 pm ritmo rioplatense

    GL, with this crowd, the primary danger lies in the pitfall of thinking that there is only one route to success, when the reality is that there is one definition of success (well, two, actually — short-term and long-term conquests) that can be approached from multiple angles.

    [Editor: Women are surprisingly uniform in their romantic desires and in what repulses them.]

    If a man is capable of the sort of sweeping rhetoric that can carry people along with him — think hittler, or, hell, the way steven jobs talks about apple products — it would be a big, big mistake for such a man to bottle that up.

    [Sweeping ILY rhetoric is likely to get you labeled a creeper if the girl you are trying to sweep off her feet doesn’t share your feelings.]

    on the other hand, as i have noted previously, shooting the moon is not a good way to go for DEADLY SERIOUS type people, with whom the game sphere is replete.

    [Why so serious? This is a ridiculous assertion. First, what’s your proof that men who learn game are deadly serious? If anything, a case could be made that it’s the “just be yourself” crowd that swims in a sea of serious shibboleths. Second, movie moment moon-shooting is often performed with a serious mien. See: Any Hollywood rom-com.
    No, the deciding factors for whether a shoot-the-moon ILY will go over well are
    a. the status of the man doing it, and
    b. the receptiveness of the target.
    If either one of those conditions is missing, it’ll be a tough sell for the man. If both of those conditions are missing, she will run for the hills.]

    —

    from a purely pragmantic non-romantic standpoint shooting the moon is not a great strategy. i think Game is nothing if not realistic, pragmatic and thus, non-romantic.

    you are mistaking the non-romantic study of romantic elements for the notion that the elements themselves have to be non-romantic.
    that’s a big, big mistake — you can study irrational things just as rationally as you can study rational things, you just have to allow for the fact that the things themselves don’t follow the same principles that studying them must follow.

    how do you think anyone becomes a successful demagogue or political strongman, GL? do you think that every move, every word is non romantic, or do you think they’re more likely to be extremely romantic wallpaper on a cold, calculating wall of stone?

    [We are all cold and calculating under our romantic veneers, whether we are aware of this or not.]

    sigh.

    [Sighing is beta. Next time, try an exasperated “Jesus F’in Christ!”]

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  19. on May 6, 2011 at 8:11 pm Eric Carter

    Alright, I will re-formulate my question.

    How to do to make females affirm you for what you WANT them to affirm you for.

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  20. on May 6, 2011 at 8:26 pm 1LT

    Roissy, it’s like you were reading my mind. I’ve been seeing a girl for around 8 months but followed commandment 1 to the tee, even though I felt a certain way about her after only a couple weeks.

    The other day, post amazing, mind blowing sex, her lips still flush and red and her pupils still dilate, from underneath my heaving chest she wraps her arms around my back and breathes “I love you” into my ear, then pulling away to look me in the eye.

    I just kissed her a few times gently and then Han Solo’d her. But I’ve been wondering what to do next if I have the same feelings but don’t want to deprive her of earning my love. Looks like I’ll be waiting a bit before I give her a declaration.

    Just a question for you all: when’s the best time to reciprocate the ILY? Post -coitus or no?

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  21. on May 6, 2011 at 8:31 pm mister

    Yes she was sincere. And wild sex ensued that night.

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  22. on May 6, 2011 at 8:34 pm Divinebaboon

    LOL This is funny, my friend actually worked with Prof. Ackerman this past semester. Imagine my surprise when I see his name on here lololol

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  23. on May 6, 2011 at 8:41 pm G.L. Piggy

    ritmo:

    GL, with this crowd, the primary danger lies in the pitfall of thinking that there is only one route to success, when the reality is that there is one definition of success (well, two, actually — short-term and long-term conquests) that can be approached from multiple angles.

    I think this crowd, though, has tried one particular route and had much less success than with the one being advocated by Citizen Renegade.

    There are a lot of investment analogies made about this, but it is worth repeating. If the goal is a larger pool of future assets, the temptation is often to “shoot the moon” or invest in the riskiest strategy or whatever. That is very appealing. Most people act on their base emotions.

    But Game teaches you to develop your future-time orientation. It teaches you to hold back and not take the beta bait, if you will. The get rich quick strategy may actually leave you worse off than when you started.

    Romance is nice, but this is not a romantic world. I think all of us wish that we could recreate our past romantic encounters. I know I wish I could, but that is just not in the cards, to fit your analogy.

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  24. on May 6, 2011 at 8:50 pm ritmo rioplatense

    [Sweeping ILY rhetoric is likely to get you labeled a creeper if the girl you are trying to sweep off her feet doesn’t share your feelings.]

    No argument here, but the same is true for laconic un-rhetoric, too.

    [Editor: No it’s not. Quiz: which sounds more like something a creeper would say?

    a. “I know we’ve only been dating a few weeks, but I just had to tell you that from the moment I laid eyes on you I’ve fallen head over heels in love with you.”

    b. “Ya know, you’re kinda cool.”

    Reaction time is a factor in your final score.]

    Which approach do you think would get you farther with argentine or italian girls?

    [Italian girls aren’t that different than girls in most parts of the world. Female psychology is a universal reailty.]

    [We are all cold and calculating under our romantic veneers, whether we are aware of this or not.]

    That was pretty much my point there, yeah

    [You sure?]

    [ Why so serious? This is a ridiculous assertion. First, what’s your proof that men who learn game are deadly serious? ]

    I frequent several other forums on the internet, and this is the only one on which the total quantity of jokes is basically zero.

    [I don’t speak for the commenters, but judging by your humorless comments I’d say you were the last person I’d go to for advice on what constitutes jokiness.]

    There are snarky barbs at other commenters, but actual humor tends to be sorely lacking here. There’s your proof.

    [Proof by assertion is the hallmark of the humorless dweeb.]

    In other areas of the internet, and, more importantly, among men in real life, it’s exactly the opposite — actual seriousness is rather rare, and is somewhat jarring when it *does* occur.

    [Do you always operate under the assumption that internet comment forums are accurate reflections of real world interactions?]

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  25. on May 6, 2011 at 8:53 pm ritmo rioplatense

    [Second, movie moment moon-shooting is often performed with a serious mien. See: Any Hollywood rom-com]

    Really? Your counterargument is … movies that deliberately distort reality, as you’ve pointed out yourself so many times?

    [Editor: Girls go gaga for those oh-so-serious moon-shooting movie moments. So clearly it appeals to them.]

    Sighing is beta. Next time, try an exasperated “Jesus F’in Christ!”

    Cussing in one’s third language is difficult, especially on the internet where vocal tone and frenetic gestures are absent. But thanks for the pointers, sir.

    [Are you tokyojesusfist by any chance?]

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  26. on May 6, 2011 at 8:59 pm ritmo rioplatense

    GL —

    But Game teaches you to develop your future-time orientation. It teaches you to hold back and not take the beta bait, if you will. The get rich quick strategy may actually leave you worse off than when you started.

    I think you and I are on the same page here, as I’m starting to hear echoes. But it’s extremely important to give the other side of the coin.
    Especially because, let’s face it, most readers here are never going to be exactly swimming in short term conquests; a good solid LTR or at least a series of serial monogamy is more realistic with this group. With that in mind it becomes more important to emphasize the importance of (at least occasional) romance, without which it’s impossible to keep a longer term relationship humming.

    One other thought: Ironically, *all* of the men I know who are sorely lacking in what one might call “game” are also men who have, if anything, too much future time orientation in other areas. Not enough spontaneity, not enough impulsiveness, not enough living in the moment, way too much trying to hash out 10,000 ramifications of everything before acting.
    How do you think that plays out against your claim that bad game is a lack of future time orientation? I don’t think that’s it at all, I think it’s just the social equivalent of how the same people also can’t change their own oil or pick out clothes that look good together. Being too cerebral and too theoretical blinds them to things that are obvious to most of us. Ironically, in assigning the problem to future time orientation, I think you’re just being … wait for it … too cerebral, again.

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  27. on May 6, 2011 at 9:12 pm x plat

    Regarding being too cerebral, our hidden talents can come about when we switch off our developed talents. Savants can be born from brain injury.

    Body centered meditations to bring the center of ego out from concepts and into feeling, are very helpful for game, because we start to embody our communication, not just our ideas, body language can be more subtle. Deep, even. We can really get into the being with a girl, and not be stuck in our head as a disembodied observer.

    A lifetime of developing cerebral ablilities can enstupidify a person if they don’t deliberately work hard for balance.

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  28. on May 6, 2011 at 9:13 pm Lara

    Ritmo,
    Impulsive men who fall in love all the time seem rather feminine to me. That’s what girls do.

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  29. on May 6, 2011 at 9:14 pm ritmo rioplatense

    Editor: Girls go gaga for those oh-so-serious moon-shooting movie moments. So clearly it appeals to them.

    They likewise go gaga for pathetic, lovelorn ballads full of beta sentiment.

    [Editor: Yes, but when they go gaga for moon-shot ILYs done by *alpha males*, the scenes typically feature a very serious man, which runs counter to your point.]

    Perhaps more so in spanish, i don’t know — see the lyrics to any juanes song or any tango music — but I’ve been to aerosmith concerts, too.
    The key is that it’s movies and/or music, and so these feelings are (a) being professed by stars at the height of status, who could make girls go gaga even by reading the phone book, AND (b) not directed at the woman in question and so unable to provoke direct contempt.

    [Hanidcap principle. I answered this in a previous comment of yours. A beta male should not do moon-shots because he does not have status to recklessly squander.]

    If you took away the rockstar/movie star status boost and projected the same in real life, the deadly serious angle would be instant death.

    [The goofy, unserious angle would be instant death too. But I suppose at least he’d have plausible deniability that he didn’t really mean what he said.]

    Is “tokyojesusfist” a rom com character?

    [I suspect it’s you. You and he share the same aspy circular reasoning.]

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  30. on May 6, 2011 at 9:15 pm ritmo rioplatense

    Lara, approximately 90% of “game” can be summed up as … wait for it … doing what girls do. Aloofness? Unpredictability? Power games? Constantly grappling for dominance? Etc.

    [Editor: You have to please the opposite sex to get what you want from them. Perhaps you have found the solution to this little problem holed up in your monastery tower?]

    All of that is “what girls do”. Which is what makes it so effective with … girls.

    [If you are getting the sex and love you want, then you are pleasing girls, whether you are consciously aware of it or not.]

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  31. on May 6, 2011 at 9:24 pm Lara

    I think there is wisdom in women preferring men that aren’t too quick to tell them they love them. If they fall that easily in love with you just wait until the next pretty girl comes along. You just can’t take them seriously.

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  32. on May 6, 2011 at 10:00 pm G.L. Piggy

    ritmo:

    I think you and I are on the same page here, as I’m starting to hear echoes.

    Not that I’m keeping score here, but I think I’ve been on that page. Although when you say this,

    But it’s extremely important to give the other side of the coin.

    I find it hard to believe that you and I are on the same page, at least when we’re focusing on this particular forum. I think every guy here has tried the ‘shoot the moon’ strategy in one way or another – either through direct ILY’s or through being LJBF bait or being needy simpering pansies. But even then, ‘shoot the moon’ or ‘ILY’ Game would be a poor strategy in that you don’t really gain much from it. If it works, then you certainly blew your load because you could have waited much longer b/c if your value is high enough to where saying ILY so soon is effective then that implies that you could have also not said it for a while longer and still had her reveling in your high value.

    So really the only function of the pre-emptive ILY is for price discovery. If you are just itching to see where you stand then you can toss out an ILY and figure that out pretty quickly. Problem is, you are signaling that you don’t know your own worth and women, perceptive as they are in these matters, notice and adjust their ledger accordingly.

    Ironically, in assigning the problem to future time orientation, I think you’re just being … wait for it … too cerebral, again.

    The beauty of Roissy/CR is that the blog allows us to be cerebral with respect to what seems like a purely physical function. IRL you get the real-time bro-chat, the “Did you fuck her?” talk. Here you get to discuss the nuances of the matter. What works, what doesn’t, why, why not. The great part is that in this controlled environment you can’t screw anything up.

    [Editor: True. It’s funny how difficult it is for these aspy types to recognize that the way people write on internet comment forums is not usually the way those same people talk in real life. Other than raging nerds, does anyone really talk the way they write? On discussion boards, you write patiently, with explication in mind. In real life, you talk informally, slangily, at least if you’re a cool dude. The concepts carry over from here to real life, of course, but the means of communicating them are massaged to fit the back-and-forth of casual conversation. And by “fit”, I don’t mean consciously fit; I mean that talking in real time activates different brain pathways than writing the same thing on a blog.]

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  33. on May 6, 2011 at 10:10 pm G.L. Piggy

    ritmo:

    re: poor future time orientation and ILY Game.

    It seems to be the case that the guys who seek out advice on these matters are the type who adhere to a life philosophy that advises them to “risk it all for love” but to also “invest wisely and conduct due diligence” in financial markets, job prospects, debt financing, etc.

    I really do think that one of the most important takeaways from the codification of Game as it were – via sites like this one and through Mystery’s teachings – is the concept of proper asset valuation. Learn how to assess your own value, spend and invest wisely. Realize that people will try to take you for all you’re worth as they dance on your portfolio or your heart if you make a sucker’s bet.

    So why *should* a beta male fall for some romantic ideal that certainly didn’t have him in mind when it was being formulated while he’ll sit on gold bullion because he’s so concerned with wealth preservation? There is a cognitive disconnect in there somewhere, and I tend to think that the disconnect lies on the side of how we approach women.

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  34. on May 6, 2011 at 10:15 pm Flahute

    Good stuff, Roissy.

    @1LT
    Since you Han Solo’d her, she is going to be wondering and waiting. Imho, given that she has been good to you, wait until the next time you are feeling it strongly and say it only if you mean it. Do it the same time she did, post-orgasm, while your heart is still beating hard in your chest and most importantly, while you are still inside of her.

    I’ve only ever said this to one woman. Yes, I developed one-itis. Yes, I got over it, but not after making many mistakes. Be careful.

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  35. on May 6, 2011 at 10:19 pm Commander Shepard

    Guys I have a dilemma. Here is the back story. I went from omega to alpha over the course of several months the catalyst being this blog. This hot girl knew through social circle treated me with contempt back then. A year goes by without seeing her and during that time I transformed myself physically (lost massive amounts of weight, dress well, groom myself, etc) I also learned game. I met her as a new man and she was massively interested. Eye fucking me like crazy but here is the kicker. I played aloof asshole game hard. Partly because I wanted get even with this bitch, and partly cuz that’s the go to card a man should resort to. She wanted to hook up, start a relationship, etc, lots of IOIs but having been an omega the previous five years I forgot that one must seal the deal quick or else. I needed to bust a move as our editor says. Now the or else has arrived. This girl feeling rejected by me is hooking up with this other guy in our social circle. Apparently I didn’t compliment her enough where as he did. (perhaps I over gamed which Roissy warns about too) This other dude is fat, out of shape, unemployed, has a criminal record and is ten years her senior, (she’s 23 as am I btw) although he is a former alpha from my understanding despite his current poor state. They don’t publicly acknowledge anything cuz of the differences in social class between each other. Now I’m not into oneitis here but my ego has taken a bruising with this one, with her fuck buddy and I resorting to competitive one upsmanship. I do want to fuck this girl to prove a point now more than anything else. Is this worth pursuing? If so, how should I go about this?

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  36. on May 6, 2011 at 10:31 pm letitripmo realpaininass

    GUY GOT THOROUGHLY CALLED OUT ON HIS CONTINUOUS CRAP!

    ’bout time. Jesus F’in Christ! He writes like a bitch.

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  37. on May 6, 2011 at 10:33 pm Rob

    You’re grasping, using this pseudo-intellectual crap as evidence, Roissy. Although I agree with your conclusions, it becomes less and less “cool” to pull info from morons indoctrinated in our fem-education culture.

    There are better places to find this stuff without crapademia… the classics, for example.

    Stop giving validity to these butt-fucks rejects.

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  38. on May 6, 2011 at 10:34 pm Rudd-O

    In other words: :don’t Mosby a girl.

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  39. on May 6, 2011 at 10:46 pm muciusscaevola

    “Body centered meditations to bring the center of ego out from concepts and into feeling, are very helpful for game, because we start to embody our communication, not just our ideas, body language can be more subtle. Deep, even. We can really get into the being with a girl, and not be stuck in our head as a disembodied observer.”

    i think this is very true. imo there is a religious quality to pick up/game. while the philosophies are not identical, one can infer much by reading sutras and Buddhist texts and substituting the word “pussy” or “game” for “zen” or “dharma”

    some sects of buddhism hold that women cannot be enlightened.

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  40. on May 6, 2011 at 11:03 pm lakerlynx

    (A high value man is never urgent for sex because he is getting all the sex he needs from other women in his informal harem.)

    Love those informal harems!

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  41. on May 6, 2011 at 11:19 pm Phoenix

    Leia (looking at Han all wrapeed up like an experiment for the carbon-freezing chamber): “I love you!”

    Han: “I know”

    Now, this might be a general reaction from me, but it’s probably bad:

    “Bout fucking time you tell me this!”

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  42. on May 6, 2011 at 11:34 pm n/a

    Yes that ritmo character is either a femcunt or a mangina.

    Despicable troll.

    It’s funny to hear it prattling about “humor.”

    LOL @ that faggot!

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  43. on May 6, 2011 at 11:56 pm (R)Evolutionary

    After much DHV, and plenty of tingles under the bridge, the door opens to ILY, after you’ve heard it from her a few times at least. Then, let it slip out in a moment of passion.. like you don’t even want to acknowledge it.. plausible deniability. Did this accidentally once. She swooned.

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  44. on May 7, 2011 at 12:13 am Ronin

    “Chicks dig power, men dig beauty.”

    Women don’t love men, homosexuals love men. Women love money/power.

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  45. on May 7, 2011 at 12:41 am Anonymous

    What could you say to who a chick who says “I like you” when you just met her recently? And you dig her too but don’t want to blow it beta style?

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  46. on May 7, 2011 at 1:02 am Orthodox

    What could you say to who a chick who says “I like you” when you just met her recently?

    What’s not to like?

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  47. on May 7, 2011 at 1:06 am Exeter

    Women don’t love men, homosexuals love men. Women love money/power.

    Disagree. Women don’t love “power”, they love the actual man himself who possesses the power, judging from my observations and from my own experience.

    It’s like saying “men don’t love women, they love pussy and tits.” No, men love more than that, they like the core feminine traits of sensitivity, vulnerability, naivety, sweetness, cuteness, softness, grace, physical delicateness, feminine voice… in other words, they love the woman herself.

    It’s obvious when a woman is in love with a man, you can see it in the swooning way they look at them and in their eyes. It ain’t the power and money itself they’re swooning over, it’s the man.

    I’ve had a few women head over heels in love with me before I’ve ever heard of game, and it definitely wasn’t my money and my power. Unless you count power as accidentally gaming them by pushing all their right buttons, like exactly how to touch them, push-pull, flipping the script, DHV, etc etc.

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  48. on May 7, 2011 at 2:23 am Fubsy

    I love you Roissy ❤

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  49. on May 7, 2011 at 5:34 am rickb223

    This shows just how f’ed up & backward thinking women really are.

    “which is what men want, evolutionarily speaking, so as not to lose an opportunity to spread their genes. They want to “buy low,” as the article put it.

    Women, who have more to lose if they get pregnant,

    “prefer a post-sex confession” as a signal of long-term commitment.

    They prefer to “sell high.”

    Yeah ladies. Keep waiting for that “post sex” confession. LOL.
    I got what I was after. Why should I “buy low” at all when it was “given away” for free?

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  50. on May 7, 2011 at 6:34 am jjm

    It must suck to be an alpha loser who needs game to reconcile his heterosexuality with his hatred of women.

    [Editor: So how long have you been laying with goats?]

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  51. on May 7, 2011 at 9:08 am Thwack

    If theres a drawback to game, it might be that some guys are gonna “overthink it” instead of working off the concept and ‘feelin it”.

    At some point, you shouldn’t be trying to memorize all the various peices of game code.

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  52. on May 7, 2011 at 9:42 am The Specimen

    Here’s how to do it right, put some bass in your voice and make her say it (along with whatever else want) while you’re pulling her hair and fucking her doggystyle. She’ll be putty in your hands after that.

    Ritmo, you’re kind of a buster and you’re giving shit advice. The only time what you’re talking about works is if you’re much higher status than her, and she kind of knows that you’re out of her league. In those cases, you need to act a little beta to diffuse her suspicions.

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  53. on May 7, 2011 at 9:51 am Anonymous

    (jjm-It must suck to be an alpha loser who needs game to reconcile his heterosexuality with his hatred of women.)

    Pure Troll.

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  54. on May 7, 2011 at 10:25 am Thwack

    Anonymous
    (jjm-It must suck to be an alpha loser who needs game to reconcile his heterosexuality with his hatred of women.)

    Pure Troll.

    ———————————————————————

    Ya’ll want me to punch him?

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  55. on May 7, 2011 at 11:14 am Paul

    Never reply in kind. Just give her a big, knowing smile and a kiss. If you have played your alpha cards right, an ILY2 is always superfluous.

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  56. on May 7, 2011 at 11:17 am greatbooksformen GBFM

    lzozolzolzlzlzlzzl hey roissy roissy!!!!!

    i am aprtciicpating at the high claibur IMBD FORUMS! zlzozlzllz

    i reveiwed a new CHICK CLICKCKC!!! FLICKCCKL

    adultery, bastard children, cheating — this is love to women. lozlzllz

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0491152/board/edit/182330592

    women lack a moral soul and compass and thus are able to write this crap.

    adultery, bastard children, cheating — this is love to women. lozlzllz

    women are predisposed to sharing the alpha sperm and ignoring the beta nice guy as well as cheating on their fiance and getting him to raise the bastard kid.

    what women are not predisposed to are ideals, honor, truth, love in its more exalted forms, myth, and the exalted soul and spirit. and thus they write porn instead of epic, exalted stories centered around moral principles like shakespeare and homer did. zozlzol

    women initiate 75% of divorces and 100% of abortions. they replace classical, exalted story with drama, alimony, cheating, adultery, fornication, screwing their best friends, treachery, lies, dishonesty, backstabbing, treason, diloyalty; and then they call all this a “romantic comedy.”

    zlozozl

    adultery, bastard children, cheating — this is love to women. lozlzllz

    lzozzolzolzlzlzol

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  57. on May 7, 2011 at 11:19 am greatbooksformen GBFM

    lzozozlzlz

    i mean her’est the link zlzozlz

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0491152/board/thread/182330592

    this is what happenes hwne owene take oever teh flture funded by ifatt bernnake dolalarz zlzozl

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  58. on May 7, 2011 at 11:32 am DeeezNutz

    I don’t love women. I love pussy and tits.

    Homosexuals don’t love men. They love dick and male bodies.

    Women don’t love men. They love men’s status.

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  59. on May 7, 2011 at 11:33 am Ari Hinkelberger

    This post is the truth, the damn truth and nothing but the truth. You also should really sieze in on this line and put up another post. I find myself wanting to fuck my girlfriend all the time and it is utterly counter productive.

    “For men, this means *not* being the sex-hungry, needy beta..”

    That line is so money you don’t even know it.

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  60. on May 7, 2011 at 11:58 am Anonymous

    Scientific studies prove that, if your bedroom has a poster of a big seeing eye (or anyone staring), you’re less likely to get laid. The actual studies say that people are less likely to be “bad” when there are images of people watching.

    Also, keep references to “God” out of your bedroom.

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  61. on May 7, 2011 at 12:03 pm David Rockefeller

    544 —

    Doing your best to sound like Jack Nicholson, you say “Aww, babe, I love you, too. Now, how about another drink?”

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  62. on May 7, 2011 at 12:35 pm Thwack

    on May 7, 2011 at 11:58 am Anonymous
    Scientific studies prove that, if your bedroom has a poster of a big seeing eye (or anyone staring), you’re less likely to get laid.
    ==========================================

    A five foot tall Madagascar Cactus has the opposite effect.

    (place near bed)

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  63. on May 7, 2011 at 1:02 pm DeeezNutz

    @Ari Hinkelberger,

    So basically you’re saying you should have a girlfriend and not fuck her. Great advice champ.

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  64. on May 7, 2011 at 1:02 pm Science

    I don’t think I’ve ever really been “beta”, but in my “pre-game” days, I was at the 3 month point of a promising relationship, things were going well, and ended up saying “i love you” first…and then didn’t get a response. the relationship quickly fizzled because the dynamics were so fucked after that.

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  65. on May 7, 2011 at 1:26 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    omg roosisist roissy!!

    I AMtotally pwning the IMDB spinster beta posterslzozlzlzlzlz

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0491152/board/flat/182330592?p=1

    adultery, bastard children, cheating — this is love to women. lozlzllz
    by mccoymountain 2 hours ago (Sat May 7 2011 07:40:19)

    UPDATED Sat May 7 2011 10:24:25
    women lack a moral soul and compass and thus are able to write this crap.

    adultery, bastard children, cheating, lying, fornicating, butthex — this is love & “Romantic comedy” to women. lozlzllz

    women are predisposed to sharing the alpha sperm and ignoring the beta nice guy as well as cheating on their fiance and getting him to raise the bastard kid.

    what women are not predisposed to are ideals, honor, truth, love in its more exalted forms, myth, and the exalted soul and spirit. and thus they write porn instead of epic, exalted stories centered around moral principles like shakespeare and homer did. zozlzol

    women initiate 75% of divorces and 100% of abortions. they replace classical, exalted story with drama, alimony, cheating, adultery, fornication, screwing their best friends, treachery, lies, dishonesty, backstabbing, treason, diloyalty; and then they call all this a “romantic comedy.”

    zlozozl

    Re: adultery, bastard children, cheating — this is love to women. lozlzllz
    by TigerlilyBramble_of_WillowBottom 54 minutes ago (Sat May 7 2011 09:30:14)
    Ignore this User | Report Abuse
    Women write porn? You’ve gotta be joking. zlozozl

    This movie was crap, but men are responsible for probably 99% of porn if we’re gonna get statistical. A man might appreciate an epic story about true love, but he’d honestly probably rather watch strippers or his girlfriend doing another girl, so get off your high horse.

    I pronounce you man and wife. Proceed with the execution.

    Re: adultery, bastard children, cheating — this is love to women. lozlzllz
    by mccoymountain 31 minutes ago (Sat May 7 2011 09:53:23)

    women perform 99% of hard core porn.

    when they’re not writing soft-core, soulless chick lit porn.

    lzozolzlolozolz

    Re: adultery, bastard children, cheating — this is love to women. lozlzllz
    by Heather-331 8 minutes ago (Sat May 7 2011 10:15:50)
    Ignore this User | Report Abuse
    And are the females alone in this porn or are there not guys in the porns you watch? But then again….maybe that makes sense for most guys.

    Re: adultery, bastard children, cheating — this is love to women. lozlzllz
    by mccoymountain 52 seconds ago (Sat May 7 2011 10:23:47)

    lozlzzllzlzzlzlzl

    some dudes like other dudes in their porn
    byut i don’t like wathcin da cocsksksa

    lzozlzlzolzolzl

    like look at playboy like no dudes with the chix zlzozlzlzl

    it is chcicks who like sharing men not men who like shang chcicksks lzozlz

    just like the movie showed lzozlzl

    the two lead women shared the alpha male and one of them hooke up witha differnet dude too so the alpha spermazoas could battle it out in sperm wars which women are programmed to intitaite and create so that the str9nges spermazoa can win

    i have a phd in eveolutionary biology on case you;re wonenbdering zlozzlzl

    DOIN’T FUCK WITH DA GBFM SMARTY MAST3RM1ND!! !!L!L zkozlzlzlzolzlzozol

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  66. on May 7, 2011 at 1:34 pm J.H

    In my experience, women have told me ILY during really mind blowing sex after about 6-8 weeks of dating. When you’re in the act of sexing a woman and she says ILY, its hard not to say ILY2 baby back to her. What is the right response to this?

    I guess it depends on how alpha you have been up to that point. My own guess is that if that is the only time you say ILY and you have sufficient alpha cred, it really shouldn’t hurt you. BTW, the only time I have said ILY to a girl is during sex and only after she has said it to me first. I think that is the right approach.

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  67. on May 7, 2011 at 4:27 pm Thin-Skinned Beta-Wanka

    “I love you.”

    ??

    Talk is cheap.

    Show her the love.

    “Bring the movies.”

    “Here, have some skittles.”

    I never understood why silly Yanks and their beloved Hollywood put so much value on saying something that requires so little real sacrifice.

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  68. on May 7, 2011 at 7:03 pm Exeter

    So this video of two little kids kissing is hot right now on youtube. Notice how he turns his back on the girl in the beginning. Kids got game?

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  69. on May 7, 2011 at 8:59 pm Anonymous

    GBFM relayed that mccoymountain said: “adultery, bastard children, cheating — this is love to women.”

    Absolutely Goddamn right! Fuck morals, they don’t get ’em tingly! Doing wrong and snakin’ half of some guys worth to keep on doing it– now, that self-fulfilling for ’em! (Bitches.)

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  70. on May 7, 2011 at 9:10 pm Feh

    Don’t Marry Her

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  71. on May 7, 2011 at 9:17 pm old guy, lower case

    TOTALLY OFF TOPIC:

    Anyone have thoughts on this Kentucky Derby?

    Just askin’.

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  72. on May 7, 2011 at 10:06 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    lzozozozllzlz MCCOY MOUNTAIN lzozoozolzl

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  73. on May 7, 2011 at 10:50 pm QH

    @Lara

    “I think there is wisdom in women preferring men that aren’t too quick to tell them they love them. If they fall that easily in love with you just wait until the next pretty girl comes along. You just can’t take them seriously.”

    Or maybe not. Risk/reward.

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  74. on May 7, 2011 at 11:46 pm Jordan

    Not enough love for GBFM around here. GBFM, update your blog, bro. Bernanke convinced Roissy to outsource everything but his Butthexing. There hasn’t been a chart or graph around here since like September 10th. At least these Indians own an English thesaurus.

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  75. on May 8, 2011 at 12:45 am Aviator44

    Just got a long drawn-out FB message from a chick I was doing….she found out from the grapevine that I was also with other women. Sent me a long emotional missive about how she wasn’t willing to be “sloppy seconds”. I sent the following reply:

    “Chicks can’t get sloppy seconds, only guys can. I guess unless maybe it was a lesbian chick with a bisexual girlfriend. I’ll go look it up on RedTube. :)”

    And what do you know…she keeps sending me messages.

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  76. on May 8, 2011 at 1:31 am ASPIRANT

    Commander Shepard:
    //I do want to fuck this girl to prove a point now more than anything else. Is this worth pursuing? If so, how should I go about this?
    It sounds like she’s toying with you, fucking with you to get a reaction. It may even be what they call a shit test. If you didn’t sound like such a bro-douchebag, I’d recommend you disengage, post-haste, and pursue other tail like you claim you can.

    If you didn’t sound like such a horrible person, if your words didn’t reek of insta-tan and axe shower gel, I’d tell you that no other human being is worth letting yourself get so uptight about. That you have options as far as who you subject yourself to.

    But, since I’m a firm believer that some people deserve each other, I say go for it. Pursue her, wear her down, ask her to marry you.

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  77. on May 8, 2011 at 1:33 am ASPIRANT

    Aviator44
    You sound totally smoooooth bro : )

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  78. on May 8, 2011 at 1:53 am ASPIRANT

    I just can’t stand listening to some of the refuse that comes here to learn how to reproduce more effectively. Roissy, do you realize what kind of people you’re attracting? We do not need comic kit guidos and suburban pimps with the power to make girls bear their children.

    If only there were some way you could target this message at valuable people who aren’t getting any… Asian engineers, aspies who spend most of their time designing integrated circuits, who are smart enough to learn, when coached, how to interact with people, and through hard work even learn empathy.

    Society is decaying, and it’s all because we don’t actively choose who gets to make babies!

    [Editor: Asian engineers and aspies don’t need to be jersey shore douchebags to get girls. They can improve their love lives simply by learning some basic precepts of game and making gradual changes in their social skillset.]

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  79. on May 8, 2011 at 4:01 am serpentus

    You people are sick. Objectifying women as object. Nothing but sex. Sleeping with women without any intention to love and committment. Shame on you.

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  80. on May 8, 2011 at 4:05 am serpentus

    “And what do you know…she keeps sending me messages.”

    Well, what’s there to be proud of dating low-quality women?

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  81. on May 8, 2011 at 4:46 am Mucius Scaevola

    “I never understood why silly Yanks and their beloved Hollywood put so much value on saying something that requires so little real sacrifice.”

    saying ily is indicative of future sacrifice and the surest harbinger of inferences and accusations like

    “if you love me you’ll buy this for me”

    “if you love me you wont/will ____”

    “i thought you loved me why are you xyz sob”

    if it does wrong.

    proper ily placement is setting up hand for your entire relaionship

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  82. on May 8, 2011 at 5:34 am serpentus

    What is alpha? What is beta? What is “The Game”? What the hell is everybody talking about?

    [Editor:
    “What is alpha?”

    A winner.

    “What is beta?”

    Second place.

    “What is the game?”

    Survival and reproduction.

    “What the hell is everyone talking about?”

    Your fate.]

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  83. on May 8, 2011 at 6:40 am Anonymous

    Just a quick reminder of why not to get married…
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/royal-wedding/kate-middleton/8500209/Kate-Middleton-and-the-fine-art-of-moulding-a-new-husband.html

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  84. on May 8, 2011 at 7:24 am Shark

    Other things to never say first:

    “I miss you”
    “Let’s be exclusive”
    “I want to have children”

    [Editor: Excellent!]

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  85. on May 8, 2011 at 9:52 am bd

    OT,
    I just reas this in the NYT….

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/07/opinion/07zaretsky.html?_r=1&src=me&ref=general

    …. and I thought of this blog. Such is the burden of seeing the truth.

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  86. on May 8, 2011 at 10:00 am desiderius

    went to see thor last night, and a showing of dear woman broke out

    brutal

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  87. on May 8, 2011 at 10:25 am PA

    The gist of this post is that it’s the girl who paces the relationship. Don’t run ahead of her.

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  88. on May 8, 2011 at 10:30 am PA

    Except the bang of course. That’s where you push the pace.

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  89. on May 8, 2011 at 11:21 am Zildjian

    Agreed. Don’t say I like or I love you until she does. Ignore the hell out of her.

    M.E.M.P.H.I.S.

    Making Easy Money Pimping Ho’s In Style

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  90. on May 8, 2011 at 11:43 am ASPIRANT

    >The gist of this post is that it’s the girl who paces the relationship. Don’t run ahead of her.
    I think it’d be more accurate to say that the man who pushes a relationship to a place he shouldn’t, by nature, be interested in, looks like he’s hoping he’ll get sex in exchange.

    I think women intuitively know a male’s true nature, and are constantly thinking about what drives him to do the things he does.

    Though come to think of it that may just be projection, maybe their reactions are deeply ingrained. I’ve known women who didn’t fall for beta shit who were dumb as all hell and possessed of absolutely no empathy.

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  91. on May 8, 2011 at 12:58 pm Let's Go

    Girl: I love you.

    Guy: Cool, now we can do anal?

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  92. on May 8, 2011 at 12:59 pm CallistoRising

    The ILY retention is probably the first bit of game advice I learned. I had a thing going with a girl at school (a girl who was a bit tall for most of the guys tastes so I had fuckall competition) and one day cracked on MSN and admitted to her I fancied her. Good god things went downhill. First awkward, then hostile, then an absolute emotional shit-kicking. She apologised to me after school was over for how mean she’d been and that she should have gone out with me, but it was so easy to say even the latter if there was to be no possibility of it. It offers no consolation when girls say things retrospectively like that. But I digress. Had I kept some restraint and not capitulated like a lesser beta, I woulda been onto something. The kino was

    The concepts carry over from here to real life, of course, but the means of communicating them are massaged to fit the back-and-forth of casual conversation. And by “fit”, I don’t mean consciously fit; I mean that talking in real time activates different brain pathways than writing the same thing on a blog

    Damn right, and not just with game but most things. On the internet I float around two spheres – anthro/HBD and game. If I heard terms from those spheres spoken in real life I would cringe like nobody’s business. The way you talk about game even on a detached quasi-academic level must be according to real-life terms. I remember a few years back when this fairly passable 40+ year-old mum told us about the whole text response ratio thing. Probably the first experience of ‘game’ I had.

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  93. on May 8, 2011 at 1:17 pm ChooChoo5000

    Guys, you might have heard of Love Systems Inc. They recently created social circle mastery. What’s your take on it?

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  94. on May 8, 2011 at 1:33 pm Zildjian

    So do you think Giacomo Casanova used ILY?

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  95. on May 8, 2011 at 2:02 pm xsplat

    I said some I love you’s today. Here’s how that went down.

    While we were fucking, just as she was getting flush faced and overwhelmed, I commanded her “say I love you!”. As she said repeated “I love you” there was an immediate change in her pussy wetness and muscular tone. So at that moment, I also let myself go and repeated it.

    Bonding.

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  96. on May 8, 2011 at 2:04 pm Things A Man Should Never Say First In A Relationship « Citizen Renegade

    […] Comments « Science Validates Another Game Concept […]

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  97. on May 8, 2011 at 2:14 pm Anonymous

    serpentus said: “You people are sick. Objectifying women as object. Nothing but sex. Sleeping with women without any intention to love and committment. Shame on you.”

    Well, how ’bout all those spoiled “empowered” (entitled, fullfilment-seeking, whatever) women who chase alpha cock (and those who try and keep up with them, thinking that’s all the dating game is today) only to be used/abused and keep riding the cock carousel until they’re too old and alone, eh? Women control the sex market (and, thereby, the marriage market) and feel integrity, fidelity and other forms of character to be non-arousing weakness (including in men) today. If you don’t like it, get women value things that matter again or move to a country where men simply control them with burqahs, purdah, beatings and worse.

    As for at least using the liberated ‘hos for a good time while they’re putting out and screwing around (such folk here may be wont to discuss), I’ve got a little song from a Marine dude about such things… get some, ’cause otherwise you’ll just get screwed over anyway:

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  98. on May 8, 2011 at 10:01 pm Lara

    [Editor: Asian engineers and aspies don’t need to be jersey shore douchebags to get girls. They can improve their love lives simply by learning some basic precepts of game and making gradual changes in their social skillset.]

    This is a good point to make. While the Jersey shore guys are entertaining, someone like me would probably not have enough in common with them for a relationship to get off the ground.

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  99. on May 9, 2011 at 8:02 am The Folly of the Early “ILY” « Gucci Little Piggy

    […] post over at Roissy’s sparked an interesting discussion about men preemptively saying “I Love You” […]

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  100. on May 9, 2011 at 10:33 am Schmoe

    The fact that chicks dig power is why chicks equate sex as power. In the case of rape, they see the sex as a power grab. That’s why they mistakenly believe rape is all about power. Hamster projection at its finest.

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  101. on May 9, 2011 at 10:46 am itsme

    Sleeping with women without any intention to love and committment.

    nonsense. i love banging women and am committed to banging as many as i can.

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  102. on May 9, 2011 at 3:34 pm Tyrone

    Simple. When a woman says I love you first, the correct response should be “yes, I know. “

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  103. on May 9, 2011 at 4:05 pm Tinderbox

    @ Anonymous

    Scientific studies prove that, if your bedroom has a poster of a big seeing eye (or anyone staring), you’re less likely to get laid. The actual studies say that people are less likely to be “bad” when there are images of people watching.

    Also, keep references to “God” out of your bedroom.

    And make sure the portrait on your side table of your grandmother pulling cookies out of the oven is placed face down before banging your girlfriend from behind.

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  104. on May 9, 2011 at 5:52 pm John the Baker

    Lara said:

    “[Editor: Asian engineers and aspies don’t need to be jersey shore douchebags to get girls. They can improve their love lives simply by learning some basic precepts of game and making gradual changes in their social skillset.]

    This is a good point to make. While the Jersey shore guys are entertaining, someone like me would probably not have enough in common with them for a relationship to get off the ground.”

    Lara, so you’d have more in common with Aspies and Asian engineers then?

    I wouldn’t doubt that. You are probably a guy using a woman’s name, anyway.

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  105. on May 9, 2011 at 7:46 pm Lara

    John,
    Nerdy guys with poor social skills are the ones that need CR’s advice the most. Just because they might never be really popular with women doesn’t mean they shouldn’t try to improve to have more appeal to the women that would be inclined to like them. It’s called playing the cards you were dealt.

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  106. on May 10, 2011 at 12:19 pm Anonymous

    OK Roissy and the learned members of the Chateau – explain this one:

    Maria — Contemplated Divorce for Nearly 2 Years

    “Maria Shriver has been deciding whether to DIVORCE Arnold Schwarzenegger since 2009 … but sources with direct knowledge tell TMZ, she’s been “extremely conflicted.”

    …

    “Maria Shriver has been “miserable” in her marriage for a long, long time, sources connected with the couple tell TMZ … and it’s all about Arnold Schwarzenegger’s “craziness.”

    “We’re told Maria moved out of the couple’s L.A. mansion months ago. Sources tell us she’s been extremely unhappy in her marriage for years, complaining about Arnold’s out of control ego, as well as his womanizing.”

    …

    “Our source tells us Maria is fed up with Arnold’s infidelities … coupled with the fact he’s been “impossible” to live with. We’re told Maria’s kids acknowledge the issues — and have pushed their mother to call off the marriage.”

    http://www.tmz.com/2011/05/10/arnold-schwarzenegger-maria-shriver-split-seperated-married-miserable-welcome/?icid=main%7Chtmlws-main-n%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%7C212740

    [Editor: Nothing unusual here. Ahnold is an alpha male and likes to fuck around with a variety of women. Maria likely loved (loves?) him to death but even a woman in love can be pushed to the edge of despair if her husband’s indiscretions are continual and egregious. Every woman has a breaking point, and with Maria that breaking point apparently took 25 years. Had Arnold been a beta, her breaking point would have been reached before the first bite of wedding cake.
    Another, not incompatible, take: Arnie fell out of love with the badly aging Maria, and it is his lack of love, not his trysts, that really breaks Maria’s heart.]

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  107. on May 10, 2011 at 11:31 pm old guy, lower case

    It’s simpler than that, he’s not Governor any more, he’s just an actor. His title is no longer automatically capitalized. Status loss.

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  108. on May 11, 2011 at 7:48 pm ASPIRANT

    >>[Editor: Asian engineers and aspies don’t need to be jersey shore douchebags to get girls. They can improve their love lives simply by learning some basic precepts of game and making gradual changes in their social skillset.]
    This is late and you’ll likely never read this, but that’s not what I meant. I also realize that the nerdy kind of people who built our civilization will understand this without needing it pointed out.

    I’m talking about borderline, ~110 IQ miscreants like Commander Shepard and Aviator44. I knew a few people like this in high school, and thankfully my contact with that element ended there. Despite not being bad looking, having money to spend on useless shit and the status that came with that as teenagers, they lacked any natural charm. I think this may be one of the big subsets of men women evolved their selectiveness to avoid. Disgusting fake alphas.

    It’s probably not justified, but the idea of people like this having success with women is gross to me.

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