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Why European Girls Stay Thin

May 11, 2011 by CH

The Village Voice has an article about fatty fuckers. These are the tiny minority of weirdos who like to fuck waddling land whales.

Here’s a pic to get you in the right frame of mind:

Read the whole article if you want to toss up your lunch. Ex:

Entries happily, ravenously, robustly referenced double bellies, back rolls, and “big old ham thighs.” Feminine body shapes were compared to pears, apples, and one calabash squash; their weights spanned from 180 pounds to over 500. “Big Fat Sexy Kitty,” a young woman who described herself as five feet tall and 260 pounds, wrote in: “I want fat sex. I want my jiggly bits rubbed and squished and fondled sexually.”

In person at the East Village’s Cafe Orlin, Dan explains that, yes, he likes round bellies. He likes double chins. He likes breasts the size of his head. He loves flabby biceps. “Fat upper arms are awesome. I would almost say I’m an arms guy,” he says, not by any means whispering. “I didn’t know that they would be that soft. I, like, fell asleep on a girl’s arm once. I was like, ‘Wow.’ ”

Dan, the fatty fucking guy they profile in the article, is quoted in this paragraph:

Too lazy to consider himself an activist, but cocky enough to be the mouthy weakling “who would be getting my neck rung by the bully and still saying shit,” Dan is ego-driven enough to envision a greater purpose. “Society sucks, and society says you need male validation. If you’re trying to say fat is attractive, as a lot of women out there are, it helps to find legitimate people who find this attractive.” Or, as he put it more bluntly on his Facebook page, after contributing two pro-fat pieces to lady blog The Hairpin, “I write about my preference for fat women in hopes that other men who share my preference will make themselves known so they’ll stop being little ballsacks and let the millions of fat women in this country find them.”

Riiiiight… society is telling men to get wood for slender babes. Yep, it’s that omnipotent society, pulling the strings of your penis, telling you when and when not to get an erection.

Hey, Dan, He who fucks gargantuan gelatinous cubes — maybe the reason millions of fat women in this country can’t find men to love them is because… oh, I don’t know… most men find fat women sexually repulsive? Not a sermon, just a thought.

Oh, but the fat chicks and their fatty fucking weirdo enablers just love to accuse the 99% of normal men who prefer thin hotties of lacking the courage to come out of the fatty fucker closet. Now where have we heard that insipid line of argument before? ooOOOOga!

In other words, Guys Who Like Fat Chicks are not make-believe. “We’re out there.”

So are sheep fuckers and necrophiliacs.

But the money quote part of this article is about a fat chick’s recollections of her time in Spain:

“There aren’t many fat girls in Spain,” reports Charlotte, who spent six months as an exchange student there in 2006. Back then, she weighed 425, and she claims that the department organizers at her Northeastern women’s college tried to dissuade her from going abroad because she was “too big.” She balked and went anyway, though she admits European daily life was far more taxing: The public bathrooms were “itty-bitty,” the online clothes retailers she frequents didn’t service Spain (Lane Bryant’s sizes are too small for her), and walking was the primary method of transportation. “Anytime I would walk down the street, people would stare at me like I was a circus sideshow. Here, people kind of like glance out of their eyes, but there people would stop and stare as I walked by.”

One time in Spain, an old woman spotted Charlotte in public, stopped abruptly, and crossed herself. “Like I was Satan.”

And there you have it: one of the main reasons why European girls stay thin. It’s the shaming, stupid.

But of course, it’s not just the shaming. People change for the better when the carrot and the stick are employed simultaneously.

After walking four miles a day overseas, Charlotte lost 75 pounds, which she gained back upon return.

In Europe, a smaller, densely populated continent, you can’t just ensconce your fat ass in a car everywhere you go. You have to get up and walk. And walking leads to weight loss, which leads to thinness and better sex with higher quality partners. This is why it’s so important to live in a city with a high walkability index. Your body and your love life will thank you. Plus, it’s a lot easier to meet girls on the sidewalk when you’re walking instead of craning your neck outside a car window.

Leftie outlets like the Village Voice love writing about the deviants of society, because their writers probably identify with them. But make no mistake… despite the drumbeat by equalists to normalize these fetishistic freaks, they are, and will remain, outcasts. So, no, Dan, “we’re” not out there. Rather, you’re out there. Be happy about it. You’ll never have a hard time meeting a desperate slovenly mound of blubber.

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  1. on May 11, 2011 at 11:55 am fiddy

    that photo makes me want to puke.

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  2. on May 11, 2011 at 12:01 pm French Connection

    Ugh! I happened to pass by an episode of “I used to be fat” the other day, that was disgusting. Thank god I live in Europe. I rarely see fat chicks here. Or fat men, for that matter.

    But to each his own, if you do have a deviant sexual preference, this post by Roosh/Samseau is on the money:

    http://www.rooshv.com/the-boner-test

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  3. on May 11, 2011 at 12:05 pm Kievy

    “the fatty fucker closet” ha!

    [Editor: It’s a very very big closet. Pianos fit through the door.]

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  4. on May 11, 2011 at 12:06 pm Bo

    Wouldn’t it be funny if it turned out that Taubes was right and Roissy’s vitriolic denigration of fatties was misguided at best.

    [Editor: Taubes being right (which I suspect he partially is) doesn’t discredit my denigration of fatties. Think about it.]

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  5. on May 11, 2011 at 12:12 pm adrian drummond

    In the Netherlands, the girls are all riding about on bikes and, as a consequence, are fit as fuck….

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  6. on May 11, 2011 at 12:18 pm Gorbachev

    Conversation with friend several weeks ago:

    Her: “There are few obese Asian women (Asian in this context =Chinese/Korean/Chinese).”

    Me: “What do you mean?”

    Her: “Of course fat people are usually Western. I used to work for one.”

    Me: “Was she jolly?”

    Her: “No! Hahahahahahah! She was always grouchy. She was three hundred pounds. She was about 40 and she had no friends and her family was all married with kids. We had to work on weekends. Do you know why? She had no social life and no friends, so she made us work on weekends. All she did was work.”

    Me: “So she was unhappy?”

    Her: “She was never happy. Everything was complaints all the time. Whine whine whine. Work was terrible, people were terrible, the weather was terrible, nobody ever got out of her way, on and on. She always seemed angry at everything.”

    Me: “Always unhappy?”

    Her: “She felt like everyone owed her something. Nobody got out of the way fast enough, gave her seats on buses when she wanted them, make room in restaurants. Everyone else is always an asshole.”

    I’ve noticed this, too. Fat people are rarely happy, have a massive sense of entitlement, and are generally jerks.

    They chose to be fat. So why punish everyone else?

    There you have it:

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  7. on May 11, 2011 at 12:19 pm Catherine Omega Jones

    One thing I’ve noticed about modern American films is that, quite often, even the major stars no longer walk very well. Even though movie stars presumably all have personal trainers to get them in shape, I can only assume they all drive to the gym. Because, in the way they walk, there is a loss of fluidity, a lack of articulation, a slight feeling of flat-footedness.

    However, it’s not as bad as when you get stuck behind someone who’s obviously losing an unpractised struggle to move forward against the obstacle of their own thighs … thankfully

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  8. on May 11, 2011 at 12:24 pm Gorbachev

    I’m actually repulsed by these images. Not one man I know is turned on by massive tubs of lard.

    Is this social programming?

    Make this argument to an Asian and they’ll think you’re retarded. It’s only western Libtards who think this kind of obvious crap.

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  9. on May 11, 2011 at 12:25 pm sofia

    can you please forward this article to hugo schwyzer?

    http://hugoschwyzer.net/2011/05/04/i-cant-see-you-with-a-fat-chick-shame-homosociality-and-desire/

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  10. on May 11, 2011 at 12:26 pm Anon

    More and more White America resembles the most corrupt stages of the Roman Empire. Please let this stage get over with quickly.

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  11. on May 11, 2011 at 12:26 pm The Outsider

    Exercise may have something to do with it. But it’s got much more to do with a diet lower in sugar, starch, and processed nonsense. Strange though it may seem (it does to me!) obesity is not really about energy balance. You can get very fat on a low-calorie diet; and you can stay thin on a very high calorie one – even with little exercise.

    The government in the US took it upon itself to recommend we avoid fat and seek carbohydrates. They were wrong. Wrong, wrong. And the results are obesity and diabetes. They can’t do that in Europe because food is so much more a part of the culture.

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  12. on May 11, 2011 at 12:27 pm Commander Shepard

    Live in a city with a high walkability index huh? This blog has such a love/hate relationship with SWPL.

    [Editor: The SWPL’s politics and hypocrisy are ripe for mockery. But I have always said that some aspects of their lifestyle are worthy of emulation.]

    It’s fitting given the themes here in regards to women as well.

    [Explication is not hate. Hope this helps.]

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  13. on May 11, 2011 at 12:28 pm Anon

    Gorbachev,

    More often then not Black men without other options are more than happy to jump in bed with the Super BBW’s.

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  14. on May 11, 2011 at 12:29 pm Black Rebel

    ‘One time in Spain, an old woman spotted Charlotte in public, stopped abruptly, and crossed herself. “Like I was Satan.”’

    Spain…best country ever.

    [Editor: I know. After I read that line I want to live there.]

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  15. on May 11, 2011 at 12:30 pm Merc

    @French Connection

    At least (most) of the subjects on “I Used To Be Fat” are looking in the mirror and saying, “this is not acceptable”, and them making changes. Some of them make huge changes and in the follow ups, it looks like they usually keep with it.

    I’ll take that over anything involving “fat acceptance” any day of the week.

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  16. on May 11, 2011 at 12:32 pm fafaf

    @ The Outsider, I give you the twinkie diet;

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html

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  17. on May 11, 2011 at 12:34 pm Gorbachev

    This blog is obviously anti-American. You hate America. You attack immigration, civil rights and progressive idealism. But the proof:

    Millions of Americans are obese, and you hate obesity.

    America hater!

    [Editor: I hate what’s happened to America, what’s happening to her. Like the Indian surveying the polluted field that was his ancestors’ homeland, I shed a lone tear. And then I drink and screw!]

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  18. on May 11, 2011 at 12:35 pm Extinguish

    Oh god oh god oh god! My eyes, they BURN!!!

    Even a girl with marginal (read: ugly) face is fuckable if she is super fit. aaaaaaahh

    You’ve ruined my whole god damn day. Thanks, pal.

    I shall read some H.P. Lovecraft to replace that horror with one more palatable.

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  19. on May 11, 2011 at 12:37 pm spaceman

    true about europe, sold my car before i left to live here. never been happier

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  20. on May 11, 2011 at 12:40 pm Gorbachev

    SWPL

    Shit politics, contradictions and evasions.

    But lifestyle:

    – Lively urban cores over zombieland, vapid suburbia
    – Decent food (barring vegetarianism)
    – Active lifestyles
    – Permissive personal lives, away from watchful eyes
    – Physical activity: lots of yoga, walking, running
    – Cycling in the city
    – emphasis on reading and intellectual life (however biased)
    – Generosity to your peers (however poorly defined)

    All of these things are laudable. However, their actual politics paradoxically don’t support this agenda.

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  21. on May 11, 2011 at 12:41 pm askjoe

    Another jewel from the hamster wheel…well, at 500 pounds, hamster barcalounger:

    But after more than a year of having a 325-pound girlfriend, he caved to frat-boy peer pressure.

    No, the dude was unhappy, his friends pointed this out. Friends can do that when guys schlump down with a war-pig or raging bitch.

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  22. on May 11, 2011 at 12:46 pm Anon

    SWPLism is really all about getting brownie points from fellow SWPL’s, accolades from select minorities just pile on the points.

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  23. on May 11, 2011 at 12:50 pm Gorbachev

    [Editor: I hate what’s happened to America, what’s happening to her. Like the Indian surveying the polluted field that was his ancestors’ homeland, I shed a lone tear. And then I drink and screw!]

    Lone white man?

    There’s an image.

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  24. on May 11, 2011 at 12:51 pm dreamer

    After living in Europe and then coming back to America, one of my major adjustments was routinely seeing overweight people everywhere. It made me feel sick inside and I was sad for awhile ’til I became re-accustomed to seeing it.

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  25. on May 11, 2011 at 12:52 pm X to the Z

    I can’t get over that picture, it should be used on a promotional poster for a horror movie.

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  26. on May 11, 2011 at 12:59 pm MGCC

    Wrung. Necks get wrung. Or maybe wringed. Only bells get rung.

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  27. on May 11, 2011 at 1:01 pm Mkunert

    Too true.

    I’m originally from Poland and have known many Polish girls who’d come visit the states, gain weight, then be terrified to return home. They were scared of they own mothers. Polish social norms do not accept young girls to be fat. Which mothers enforce.

    Once they get married… That’s a whole other story.

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  28. on May 11, 2011 at 1:03 pm Commander Shepard

    “The government in the US took it upon itself to recommend we avoid fat and seek carbohydrates. They were wrong. Wrong, wrong. And the results are obesity and diabetes.” – The Outsider

    Wrong in what way? Seems to me that was part of the plan. Obesity serves a purpose. Carbohydrates and processed food enriches agribusiness, the obese are also prone to getting sick which enriches pharmaceutical interests, the obese are also anti-social and hate life which enriches the modern day opiate pushers (video game publishers and pornographers) .

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  29. on May 11, 2011 at 1:05 pm Sad B

    Reminds me of people in the spaceship in the Wall-e movie.

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  30. on May 11, 2011 at 1:19 pm J-style

    I was in Spain two years ago and my conclusion was not that Spanish girls are inherently genetically superior to their American counterparts, but simply that they aren’t fat and have a decent sense of fashion. It’s depressing to think about the potential treasure trove of hotties that might be uncovered if American girls just lost some weight and looked beyond Jersey Shore for fashion tips.

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  31. on May 11, 2011 at 1:22 pm Lotez

    The problem with skinny women is their tits are too small. I’m into at least D cup and for most skinny girls it means she would have to have implants.

    Chunky (not fat) girls are the best.

    [Editor: Your opinion of chunky chicks would be in the minority of men. 10% if I had to ballpark it.]

    Plus better personality.

    [It’s a mixed bag. Chubsters often have to cultivate a better personality to make up for their sloppy bodies, but a lot of them wind up becoming unhappy and cranky from all the tacit rejection they experience in the dating market. Nevertheless, most men are willing to put up with a bitchy personality to get a smoking hot babe. The ideal of course is a hot slender babe with an easy, feminine personality.]

    Great article. Keep them coming.

    There is only one problem I see with it. When you say Europe, you probably mean Western Europe, because most Eastern Europe is a bit different. Girls are really hot but if they get married/cross 25 y.o. line, their hips just expand and all of the sudden you have a fatso. I’m not even talking about women in their 30+.

    [So I’ve heard. The babushka factor is a major drag on the sexual market over there.]

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  32. on May 11, 2011 at 1:29 pm Morgan

    I understand the fitness advice, walking’s great. What I don’t get is the hostility to these dudes.

    Every decent looking guy with tastes different from mine benefits me. Gay guys, chubby chasers, milf hunters, whatever. We’re not in competition. I like them.

    I tip my hat to them, as they leave the women I like alone. I don’t know how much more thought they really deserve.

    [Editor: I’m not hostile to his preferences; as you correctly note, the more men that chase chubsters means fewer men competing for hotties. What I’m hostile to is the attempt at normalization of their perverted sexual tastes, and their insistence that all men secretly feel this way about fat chicks. My goal is to prevent the encouragement of fat chicks from thinking their fatness won’t have negative consequences for their love lives.]

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  33. on May 11, 2011 at 1:32 pm raynasybelle

    Wow. This was hilarious, but so true. I definitely don’t want to be a fat chick.

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  34. on May 11, 2011 at 1:40 pm Basil Ransom

    Since we’re all ragging on American girls…

    I went on a study abroad program in Denmark, and the American girls would complain about how well dressed the native Danettes were, how utterly *unfair* it was. Suddenly wearing sweatwear from head to toe was unacceptable. ****ing gross. Denmark, where your 35 year old teacher is hotter and tighter than all the female students.

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  35. on May 11, 2011 at 1:49 pm collegeslacker

    Reading through the VV article, I get the impression that many of these fatty fuckers are mega nerds whose first encounters came from whales, and who are only able to get the attention of manatees.

    Rationalize away.

    I bet some of them would take a .7 hip ratio skinny blondie every day of the week and twice on Sunday, if they could get one.

    [Editor: That was my impression too. Genuine fatty fuckers — those men who really get hard-ons looking at fat chicks — are probably fewer than the number of men who claim to like fatsos and/or who date them exclusively. Most likely, some of these fatty fuckers are just losers who can’t make it with slender babes and rationalize their failure away.]

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  36. on May 11, 2011 at 1:50 pm A.B. Dada

    I have 2 überalpha friends who love their women fat. I can’t figure it out. I almost think they bang hot women in secret and just show off the fatties for attention.

    I’m very picky about my dames. When they ask me why I broke up with someone, I warn/tell them: “because they gained weight.” I didn’t say “because they got fat.”

    One of the ladies I’m seeing dropped just 5# pounds and her body went from a 6 to an 8. All she did was give up bread. She likely lost 7# of adipose tissue and gained a few pounds of muscle, but after 14 months with her, I’m starting to do double-takes.

    My last long term titled girlfriend gained 6# and my boner wouldn’t see past it. I wish I had photos of what 6# weight gain (maybe 3# muscle loss plus 9# adipose gain) does on a gal who is 5’0″.

    Let’s add to the nightmare: sideboob, bra-strap bulge, and that ‘gina pooch. Ugh.

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  37. on May 11, 2011 at 2:09 pm Lotez

    Chunky (not fat) girls are the best.

    [Editor: Your opinion of chunky chicks would be in the minority of men. 10% if I had to ballpark it.]

    Plus better personality.

    [Editor: It’s a mixed bag. Chubsters often have to cultivate a better personality to make up for their sloppy bodies, but a lot of them wind up becoming unhappy and cranky from all the tacit rejection they experience in the dating market. Nevertheless, most men are willing to put up with a bitchy personality to get a smoking hot babe. The ideal of course is a hot slender babe with an easy, feminine personality.]
    ——
    10% is about right I’m pretty sure. I can’t put my hand on it why I like fuller figured girls… I’ve dated skinny girls and not so, and the girls with more meat/fat on them are more sexually appealing to me. That said, I can’t stand fat chicks mostly because their personality and the attitude about themselves and life sucks, like you said.

    You know, you can write more on sex and how withholding cuming completely sends your value into space for a girl. There 2 immediate visible outcomes: a girls wants to have sex with you all the time to re-establish her value, and also she will immediately downgrade her own value below yours, no matter how high it was before. I can write more on this, but your view would be interesting if you have experience with it. I’ve been doing it, and so far it’s the best thing I’ve learned to improve any relationship. Plus, if you don’t cum, you will have more energy to do your other manly things…

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  38. on May 11, 2011 at 2:10 pm xsplat

    Obesity serves a purpose. Carbohydrates and processed food enriches agribusiness…

    Ya, fat increases GDP, therefore fat is good! And betas who trade sex for security in lifetime monogamy increade the GDP, because their wives want new cars and big houses and consume a lot, therefore betas who prefer lifetime monogamy are good for society!

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  39. on May 11, 2011 at 2:14 pm askjoe

    Fat chicks don’t have better personalities, they’re usually extremely defensive, bitter, and angry.

    As for D-cups, normal sized girls have those too.

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  40. on May 11, 2011 at 2:28 pm Diabolos

    Dear fucking GOD, MY EYES!!! I nearly found myself in the corner huddling in on myself mumbling, “I was once a man…yesssssss…” when I saw that picture. Seriously dude, you need some sort of filter on shit like that. Though with that bulk, it’d likely strain the pixels to the point of making such a thing irrelevant.

    Dude, I’m seeing fattys all over the bar scene. It’s fucking sickening. I recall one was so busy chatting up her hot friend, that she was actually driving the men away from the area. And I don’t mean cockblocking, I mean literally there was no guys in the general vicinity of this bitch, they were so disgusted…even the hot girl, who had this look of, “Save me! Come over here and just take me out of this, and I will fuck you ten ways to Sunday!” on her face wasn’t enough to get them over there. As for me, I was enjoying her pain, but the point is, it’s getting like the fucking high seas out there. We shouldn’t be looking for poon, we should be trolling the bars with fucking harpoons; taking back the carcasses and throwing them into thermal depolymerizers so we can at least get a tank of gas out of them. It’d be the most use they’d ever been in their lives.

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  41. on May 11, 2011 at 2:30 pm Tyrone

    @Black rebel;

    you would encounter that kind of reaction anywhere in Europe, not just Spain.

    Our cities just aren’t very livable. They tend to be office parks with long distances between the few attractions available for any pedestrians surrounded by Chimptowns. DC for instance has the mall, but no decent places for coffee and cake or a glass of wine. Paris would have 100 such places near something like the DC Mall, for example. Nearly every European town of 2000 and above has a pedestrian mall and decent schools, so people actually live in the city that aren’t part of the permanent underclass. SWPLs recognize this problem too and try to do something about it, but the real key is decent schools so families will return to the city.

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  42. on May 11, 2011 at 2:30 pm Ashley

    That is exactly why I prefer black men. My whiteness negates my fat behind lol. No but seriously they have way more appreciation for women with excess weight.

    All Hail Black Men or I would be alone!

    [Editor: Paging Mu’min seeks fat wu’min…]

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  43. on May 11, 2011 at 2:37 pm THIS ARTICLE, I can’t even. « Haley's Halo

    […] Especially in light of Roissy’s post on Why European Girls Stay Thin. […]

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  44. on May 11, 2011 at 2:40 pm Firepower

    European girls
    and a LOT of 3rd world girls
    stay thin because they fuck a lot

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  45. on May 11, 2011 at 2:55 pm Commander Shepard

    Speaking of fatties I’ve seen a lot of them at the local nightclubs. They ruin the dance floor cuz the hotter chicks won’t dance unless their friend gets a dance partner too. Obviously one of your friends has to take one for the team and suffer the shame of being seen with a fatty. This is different than a bar where a casual conversation isn’t seen in the same light as dancing.

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  46. on May 11, 2011 at 2:56 pm Bounder

    The “fat girls have big tits” line is the oldest fatty-fucker defense brigade propaganda argument.

    I’m fucking a 22 year old 5’2″ Indian girl, thin as hell, with D tits.

    There is a huge different between the saggy and disgusting balls of lard on a 200-pounder and the firm grabable joy of a fit girl with huge knockers.

    Fat girls do not have any advantages. Eating them out is disgusting, they smell unless they have the most assiduous hygiene (where flesh meets flesh there will be odors).

    How could you have fun fucking these girls; half the fun of sex is throwing your lover around the bed. Christ, I couldn’t dead-lift these whores.

    Awful.

    What I found hilarious was the subversive way the VV slipped in that delicious fact that she lost 75 pounds in Spain. That pretty much disproves the “genetic” argument.

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  47. on May 11, 2011 at 2:57 pm Teras

    An article with that much potential to offend my aesthetic sensibilities must not go unanswered.

    If May 21st is Pimp Walk Day, I propose June 21st to September 23rd to be the Summer of Shamu Shaming.

    The mascot can be Al Bundy:

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  48. on May 11, 2011 at 3:02 pm Firepower

    Bounder

    I’m fucking a 22 year old 5’2″ Indian girl, thin as hell, with D tits.

    And, after marriage – it’s always them, that fucks you.

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  49. on May 11, 2011 at 3:06 pm Brad Sextington III

    I know many men who are now or have recently fucked fat chicks. Most of them do it as a last resort, and justify it with a “fat chicks need love too” response.

    But in my 35 years on this planet, I have only met one man who was tall, handsome (no homo) and financially successful who honestly and truthfully preferred fat chicks over and above pretty skinny bitches. This guy could compete for and win the skinny girls with ease if he wanted to. Still, true to form, he always went for the whales.

    After literally decades of making fun of him (he was a good friend – it was all in fun) he finally admitted to us why he preferred fat chicks. He said “The fat doesn’t bother me too much, and yeah, skinny chicks are more attractive, but I can sexually dominate a big girl in ways you only see in porn, and they love it. I guess I just got addicted to the power, and the fat is just the price I have to pay”.

    He told us stories of girls he had been with that sounded like they came straight out of the most hardcore underground domination/humiliation XXX porn you could ever find.

    He married a fat chick. He cheated on her in less than a year with an even fatter chick.

    [Editor: The interesting thing about your anecdote is that it proves how little effect “social disapproval” has on a man’s (or a woman’s) sexual tastes. This guy spent decades getting shit from his friends for his fat lovers, yet somehow managed to ignore all that social conditioning to pursue what he really liked. Femcunts, take note.]

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  50. on May 11, 2011 at 3:08 pm Rollo Tomassi

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/02/090216-bikinis-women-men-objects.html

    Sexual arousal in healthy human beings is hard-wired. Sexual preferences, fetishes, predispositions, etc. are conditioned responses that modify that innate arousal. Prior successful sexual experience attempts with specific types of sexual expression, body type, ethnicity, age (MILFS), etc., conditions subsequent sexual preferences. Ergo, the guy who’s sexually welcomed by overweight women, single mommies, or whichever demographic fits, develops and rationalizes a sexual preference in the face of being rebuffed by what he initially found arousing.

    Today we have every variety of fetish from chubby chasers to foot worshipers, but are these instances representative of a majority? Certainly not. However we have individuals for whom this ‘natural’ arousal is superseded by a fetish. The obvious answer is that fetishes are learned behaviors and conditioned responses used to circumvent a sexual deficiency by mentally internalizing a specialized sexual preference. In other words, Brad Pitt could be a chubby-chaser if he lacked the social intelligence to attract women on par with his own level of attractiveness.

    Likewise you can extrapolate this ‘fetish’ dynamic to other sexual preferences. The 22 y.o guy who consistently fails to hook up with girls his own age develops a “preference” for MILFs after he successfully hooks up with one. It’s this ‘path of least resistance’ or the “path of most likely success” dynamic that leads to preference.

    Whenever the ‘fat is OK’ debate pops up all it does is serve to further illustrate yet another feminine social convention. All of these conventions are are sociological and psychological methodologies with the latent purpose of securing breeding opportunities for less than physically optimal women.

    Point 1: Women know on an instinctual, biological level that, overall, men generally base their breeding selection on the physical conditions of a female. Hips to waist ratio, breast size, facial symmetry, fullness of lips, youthful appearance, etc.

    Point 2: In order to compete with similar women in meeting the physical standards of a given demographic of men, women must create physical methods in order to compensate for this deficit. Thus they have make up, cosmetic surgery, high-heels, hair dye, wonder-bras, etc.

    Point 3: Failing this, sociological and psychological constructs are necessary to ‘level the playing field’ in the sexual marketplace. Thus, fat, out of shape women attempt to convince men to conditionally feel shame for their sexual response to a physically superior female by converting that desire into shame. Natural sexual response becomes superficiality. Likewise, older women who’s sexual marketability wanes with every passing year, must create social constructs that praises the sexual prowess of older women – thus the myth of the female sexual peak.

    This is nothing new. Women have been trying to convince themselves for centuries that there’s more to sexual attraction than physical appeal, and for centuries this method has been thwarted by simple male biology. Rather than play the game better, they attempt to change the rules of the game to better fit their own limitations in a variety of ways.

    Most male sexual fetishes are a direct result of men playing into these social conventions. The ironic thing is that women actually have a higher standard of physical acceptability than men. Need evidence? Try to find a parallel to the “chubby chasers” fetish of men in women. There are no online dating services that cater to in shape women specifically seeking out obese men. While men’s fetishes periodically shift, women’s physical standards for men remain almost static throughout history.

    Sorry to break it to the ladies here, but fat is fat. The problem with the idea that “it’s what’s inside that counts” is that it’s what’s outside that arouses. All the “feeling good about your body” that a fat woman can muster is NEVER going to be an aphrodisiac or a substitute for having a great body that men are aroused by.

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  51. on May 11, 2011 at 3:17 pm APL

    Gorbachev: “I’m actually repulsed by these images. ”

    Yep.

    Dark Lord: :Read the whole article if you want to toss up your lunch.”

    Nope the silhouette was more than enough to stimulate my upchuck reflex.

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  52. on May 11, 2011 at 3:19 pm collegeslacker

    @Rollo

    Good find.

    Makes a lot of sense.

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  53. on May 11, 2011 at 3:22 pm Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

    GAAH!

    I won’t even look at a chick unless I can pick her up with one arm.

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  54. on May 11, 2011 at 3:23 pm Firepower

    Dan, the fatty fucking guy

    Too lazy to consider himself an activist, but cocky enough to be the mouthy weakling “who would be getting my neck rung by the bully and still saying shit,” Dan is ego-driven enough to envision a greater purpose.

    Yes.

    Ten years ago
    We all wondered just what would become of all those lads getting 35th place T-Ball Accomplishment! Trophies.

    Special
    Entitled
    Snowflakes

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  55. on May 11, 2011 at 3:32 pm askjoe

    you know, this sort of idiocy of the intellectuals is a boon to people that can recognize its idiocy.
    Sure, you SWPL’s go out, ignore hot chicks, and shack up with heifers, leaving more for us.
    It’s similar to all those bad exercise trends and diet trends that leave people injured or struggling with their weight while the guys who hit the boring, old-fashioned iron trim.

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  56. on May 11, 2011 at 3:33 pm Douglos

    I used to be with Lotez. I love titties. Don’t know why, that’s just my thing. So I went after girls that had them – not FAT fat, but a girl that’s, say, 5’7″, 130-140, would be in my wheelhouse, cuz she’d usually be packing the C-D cups that me likes (I even made the retarded mistake of marrying one – OOPS).

    A few months before I met my mistake, I mean ex-wife, I took down my first “model-type” – tall, slender, but still stacked in the upper torso. I still dig boobs – and my ex-wife’s were perfect (the only thing about her that was), but slender chicks win. I’ll still bang “average”-bodied cute girls because I’m not super-picky – if she makes my dick hard, I will reward her. BUT if given the choice between gaming her or the model at the other end of the bar, the model is option 1.

    W/r/t Spain, about 8 years ago, I spent 3 months working in Barcelona. I’m 6’6″ and 280, and I got stared at endlessly. Aside from the odd German or Scandinavian, nobody there was nearly as tall, and I think my mix of muscle combined with a midwestern beer belly really confused the fuck out of them. I can’t be the first person they’ve seen that was built this way – they had NFL Europe for fuck’s sake – but you’d think I was Godzilla based on the looks I got.

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  57. on May 11, 2011 at 3:42 pm Tmason

    Roissy/Chateau,

    What about biking?

    Thanks.

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  58. on May 11, 2011 at 3:50 pm But

    a big chick’s BJ is AWESOME, it’s like they eating another meal.

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  59. on May 11, 2011 at 3:54 pm not a hacker

    The funniest thing I ever read, anywhere, was in the Village Voice around 1996. I do not make this up. The director of NYC’s Gay Men’s Health Crisis was quoted as saying,

    “We’re never going to solve this epidemic until people understand how important it is for me to have a cock in my ass and another in my mouth.”

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  60. on May 11, 2011 at 3:55 pm Anton

    Most fat girls (genetic cases excluded) have simply stopped trying.

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  61. on May 11, 2011 at 3:58 pm bruno

    well, America has a fat culture.

    every now and then some acquaintance of mine goes to America for the purpose of studying english, either working a season in some ski resort or spending their time in a family house while taking classes.

    the thing is every time someone comes back from America to Brazil a common question to be heard (when they’re not around) is “so, did she put up too much weight?”.

    it’s a rule here, and women seem more susceptible to it -> America fattens people.

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  62. on May 11, 2011 at 4:05 pm Dat_Truth_Hurts

    You know who also have big tits?

    Fat guys.

    [Editor: haha. nothing like a couple of pendulous udders on a dude to make the ladies come running. it’s a nice visual antidote to all those fat chicks bragging about their big tits. hey fatties, big firm tits on a slender body are great. gross swinging water balloons attached to a pile of blubber are disgusting. your tits are no more appealing than moobs on a fat dude.]

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  63. on May 11, 2011 at 4:14 pm Dat_Truth_Hurts

    Two things have changed America (and the UK, and many pacific islands) into Fattie-land:

    Food and activity levels. Washing machines and Frankenfoods. You can’t jog away a lack of insulin sensivity.

    Keep the glycemic load low and take lots of walks ladies. Do some squats and deadlifts too.

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  64. on May 11, 2011 at 4:17 pm Traveller

    Rollo Tomassi,

    would you say that about homosexuality too? Just curious.

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  65. on May 11, 2011 at 4:18 pm Gorilla

    Shame the men who enable these women too. They’re think they’re “nice guys” who are saving these fat whales from the ravages of low self-esteem and sexually liberating them somehow.

    The enablers are part of the problem, and everyone of these BBW-FA relationships are based around some fucked up addict-enabler co-dependent dynamic.

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  66. on May 11, 2011 at 4:32 pm Ummboy

    Reginald Van Gleason III said it best:

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  67. on May 11, 2011 at 4:41 pm Tyrone

    @Traveller:

    that is the position taken by the folks who would cure homosexuality. They assert it is almost always caused by some sort of past same sex seduction. I have also heard this assertion backed up by homosexuals own testimony as to why they turned out gay. There is usually a key figure who introduced them to the lifestyle. I am inclined to believe this line of thinking. Moreover, I believe that many homosexuals know this intuitively if not cognatively and this is a big reason the fantasy of turning out a straight man is so prevalent among them. I’ve also observed that anyone trying to leave the gay lifestyle is hit with major peer pressure to stay with the gay community.

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  68. on May 11, 2011 at 4:42 pm Rollo Tomassi

    @Traveller

    On a root level, yes.

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  69. on May 11, 2011 at 4:53 pm Anonymous2

    Europe will rapidly descend into suburban hell as a consequence of mass Muslim immigration. East Asian countries will be the only legitimate civilizations left on Earth by 2100.

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  70. on May 11, 2011 at 4:57 pm Rollo Tomassi

    @Traveller,

    Human sexuality is always going to be nature vs. nurture. The problem with even attempting to define it into a genetic vs. behavioral answer is further complicated by the people trying to define it. Just by even asking the question “Is homosexuality a choice or a genetic predisposition?” cast the one asking into one camp or another. You’re either a ‘homophobe’ or you’re an ‘immoral hedonist of choice’. Both sides are equally polarized and equally misled because they aren’t encouraged to look for answers, and when they do, the bias of their motivations for doing so become suspect.

    So with that in mind, here is the Rollo Tomassi take on homosexuality: Until such time as biologist can empirically prove a ‘gay gene’ (or genetic combinations that predispose a person to homosexuality), I believe the root of homosexual sexual expression is behavioral. Human beings have a biological need for sexual expression: masturbation is usually the first, then we move on to more complex socio-sexual behaviors. In short, we like to get off. It feels good, it’s a stress relief, and orgasm (plus the resulting endorphin release) has health benefits.

    Just after infancy sexual behaviors and patterns become progressively associated with environmental prompts, situational stimuli, as well as a multitude of reward/reinforcers and punishments depending upon the social acceptability or unacceptability of the that sexual behavior. That’s not to say there isn’t a biological aspect to this; when I see a semi-nude woman (conditioned stimuli) I get a hard-on (unconditioned response). My body reacts in preparation for sexual behavior by flushing my system with a cocktail of hormones that increase my heart rate, heighten my senses, dilates my pupils and gives me an erection. However it’s the associations, and prior rewards or punishments, that prompt the biological response. For instance, why do I get turned on by a naked Jessica Alba, but disgusted (physical revulsion) when I see a maggot filled animal carcass?

    When I hear homosexuals tell me “I can’t help being gay”, I believe them. Through any set of circumstances their sexual expression has been reinforced to the point where it has become normal for them – they literally can’t help but be gay, because that’s what prompts sexual response for them. They also, literally, do not make a choice to be gay; their sexual response was brought about from circumstances that rewarded (or more so than from what wasn’t) that behavior. The obvious criticism is that for the most part homosexuality is viewed as a deviant or perverted sexual expression and is discouraged. However it’s just this taboo that makes the sexual expression a reward.

    As I stated above, sexual release is a biological need. Heterosexual men entering a male only prison population, can and do engage in homosexuality and then resume heterosexual behavior upon their reintroduction to society. Are they gay or were they simply resorting to the only sexual expression they had available to them in their given environment?

    What about bi-sexuality? Do bisexuals have only half the genetic material to make them half-gay or has their sexual conditioning been such that they’re aroused by both genders?

    There are some people born with both male and female sexual plumbing, what gender should they pursue in life? Is this their choice when you consider it’s their parents who decide to raise the child as a boy or a girl?

    Is gender itself biological or behavioral? This is an issue that Feminism struggles with to this day. If gender is primarily a learned behavior then the issue of being oppressed by design is valid, but homosexuality as a genetic cause is invalid (or certainly less valid). But then women’s biology, and the degree to which their innate hormonal differences play (estrogen, oxytocin) and the behavior manifested due to them, in molding their gender must also be taken into consideration.

    The problem with asking questions like this now becomes one of polarization. Neither homosexuals nor moralists really want a definitive answer as to whether homosexuality is genetic. The longer it goes unanswered, the longer each has to effect their own agenda. If homosexuality is proven not to be genetic, then homosexuals as an oppressed underclass lose in their bid to make their status a civil rights issue. If it is proven to be genetic, then moralists are forced to reevaluate not only their position on homosexuality, but also their concept of predestination and personal accountability. So it’s really not in the interests of either faction to look for real concrete answers. The longer we all remain in limbo the longer they have to try to change minds to a certain agenda.

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  71. on May 11, 2011 at 5:02 pm Tmason

    [Editor: The interesting thing about your anecdote is that it proves how little effect “social disapproval” has on a man’s (or a woman’s) sexual tastes. This guy spent decades getting shit from his friends for his fat lovers, yet somehow managed to ignore all that social conditioning to pursue what he really liked. Femcunts, take note.]

    Wouldn’t this contradict efforts to shame fat women?

    [Editor: That’s only if you assume fatness is a hardwired genetic predilection, like sexual desire. It’s possible that some fatties have a slurry of genes that predisposes them to eat more, but since most of the gain in obesity has been within one or two generations of Americans, it stands to reason that it’s primarily a behavioral issue. And behavior that is influenced largely by environmental causes can be amenable to shaming.

    *Some will say “what about the sugars? We’ve been sold a bill of goods by the FDA!” And they would be right, but that doesn’t absolve all the fat shits from responsibility for their physical health and appearance. If a fattie wakes up in the morning and sees a gross beast staring back at her in the mirror, her first instinct should be to hit the books and find out what the best way of eating and exercising is to help her slim down. Instead, most of these fatties are looking to normalize their monstrousness and force normal men to find them attractive.]

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  72. on May 11, 2011 at 5:04 pm Carmo

    I’m not sure when exactly it happened but when did fat become “normal”? I mean seriously every women at my office ranges from fairly over-weight to obese. I am tall/thin and in good shape and you would think that I am the freak from the comments I get around the office.

    I overheard a conversation today between co-works discussing dieting and their weights. One said that her “ideal” weight is about 170! She is maybe 5 foot 9. The other one then nodded in agreement and told her that her daughter is about the same height and her “beautiful” knock em dead weight is also 170! What freaking planet are these walruses living on? Grated this is Florida where there are a lot more fatties than lets say a northeast city but still.

    [Editor: I twist my face up in disgust when I share space with a fat chick, just to let her know that any compulsion she may harbor to rationalize away her fatness as something endearing won’t fly with me. It’s best to continually remind these monsters just how badly they repulse the people around them.
    And this sentiment includes other fat people, who also aren’t attracted to their own kind. So much for the wistful PC sentiment that “fat people will find love with each other”.]

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  73. on May 11, 2011 at 5:11 pm Reality Check

    …Grated this is Florida where there are a lot more fatties than lets say a northeast city but still.

    Florida seems as if virtually the whole state is the ‘People of Walmart’ land writ large.

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  74. on May 11, 2011 at 5:30 pm Tmason

    [Editor: I twist my face up in disgust when I share space with a fat chick, just to let her know that any compulsion she may harbor to rationalize away her fatness as something endearing won’t fly with me. It’s best to continually remind these monsters just how badly they repulse the people around them.
    And this sentiment includes other fat people, who also aren’t attracted to their own kind. So much for the wistful PC sentiment that “fat people will find love with each other”.]

    Perhaps a future post on fat smaing within modern culture?

    My examples:

    – Never speak to them first in a group.

    – When spoken to, keep conversations as short as possible.

    – Never laugh at their jokes, even if they are funny.

    – When they do start talking, whether in groups or individually, change the subject.

    – Quickly look away if you see them walking/on trains/or other public settings.

    Any others to add?

    I would like to stress that you need to be careful. Easy to go too far and then get called out at work/in public.

    [Editor: I agree. Subtlety is key. The slightest nonverbal gesture is all it takes to send the message to the typcial fat chick’s overactive hamster.]

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  75. on May 11, 2011 at 5:32 pm Carmo

    @ Reality Check
    I live in the Tampa/St Pete area and I am thoroughly convinced that the vast majority of the ‘people of Wal-Mart’ stuff is taken from the city wal-mart which is literally surrounded by 5-6 different trailer parks and low income housing. Once a year or so I forget how bad it is and wonder through the doors. I get about half way to where I was headed before I turn around as I tell myself “never again”.

    If however you feel like taking pleasure in the misfortune of others and are up for a good round of wal-mart bingo, then this is where you want to be.

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  76. on May 11, 2011 at 5:35 pm Schmoe

    I love how they have to IMPORT fat chicks into New York. There’s no way in hell to remain fat in that town, because it’s just more efficient to walk than to get in a cab every three blocks.

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  77. on May 11, 2011 at 5:39 pm The Real Vince

    My reaction when I saw that picture in the other thread: OH, SHIT! That belongs on the cover of a Stephen King novel.

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  78. on May 11, 2011 at 5:42 pm Reality Check

    Carmo

    @ Reality Check
    I live in the Tampa/St Pete area and I am thoroughly convinced that the vast majority of the ‘people of Wal-Mart’ stuff is taken from the city wal-mart which is literally surrounded by 5-6 different trailer parks and low income housing. Once a year or so I forget how bad it is and wonder through the doors. I get about half way to where I was headed before I turn around as I tell myself “never again”.

    If however you feel like taking pleasure in the misfortune of others and are up for a good round of wal-mart bingo, then this is where you want to be.
    ___

    I know, I know what you mean Carmo.

    Going to virtually any store that sells food products in Florida is like being in an episode of the Twilight Zone.

    *On another note – is it any co-incidence that such a large amount of episodes from the show Cops are filmed on location in Florida??

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  79. on May 11, 2011 at 5:51 pm Carmo

    Reality,
    Also the overwhelming majority of child abductions seem to happen in central Florida. Must be the delicious orange juice that has kept me here for the last 4 years lol.

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  80. on May 11, 2011 at 5:58 pm Traveller

    Rollo Tomassi, and Tyrone,
    thanks for the answers.

    I too believe homosexuality is an imprinted behavior.

    Homosexuals do not reproduce, this means if there is genetic involved, it is a genetic error (bad DNA copy) – This is not a moral judgement.

    It seems from Google every animal species is full of homosexuals. The fact these studies are very recent makes me skeptical.

    [Editor: It’s possible homosexuality could be caused by a germ or virus in utero, which would bypass the whole genetic restriction argument while still acknowledging that gays can’t control which sex they are attracted to.]

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  81. on May 11, 2011 at 6:06 pm Mike

    Just left this comment for that article….. I welcome the love and admiration from here and the hatred and name calling from there…

    ————————————————-

    -this makes me want to move to europe
    -encouraging obesity is absolutely ridiculous… it’s not attractive, it’s incredibly unhealthy

    riddle me this— why date/marry someone when you know for a fact that they have a much higher risk of earlier death? or health problems? etc

    i would LOVE to just start dating someone who cant do fun heart pumping activities… who thinks its fine to ride around walmart in a gokart… who claims that “oh my god, it’s genetic and sooooooo difficult to lose weight.”

    shut up…go paleo… simple… it’s cheaper and tastes better… i wonder why you say losing weight is impossible when you live off carbs…

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  82. on May 11, 2011 at 6:18 pm Schmoe

    I met a female co-worker of mine one time when I was out on the town with another woman. I introduced my co-worker to my companion. I talked to her for a while before I realized she was with some fat chick, whom I had totally ignored. I didn’t realize until much later that I also work with the fat chick.

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  83. on May 11, 2011 at 6:20 pm Schmoe

    “Rollo Tomassi, and Tyrone,
    thanks for the answers.

    I too believe homosexuality is an imprinted behavior.

    Homosexuals do not reproduce, this means if there is genetic involved, it is a genetic error (bad DNA copy) – This is not a moral judgement.

    It seems from Google every animal species is full of homosexuals. The fact these studies are very recent makes me skeptical.

    [Editor: It’s possible homosexuality could be caused by a germ or virus in utero, which would bypass the whole genetic restriction argument while still acknowledging that gays can’t control which sex they are attracted to.]
    ”
    It’s also possible, and there is some evidence for it, that the homosexual gene is only triggered when you have a big brother, for example.

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  84. on May 11, 2011 at 6:23 pm Simon

    Yah, don’t believe the hype. I don’t date fat black women, so I will not date a fat white woman either. Of course saying that means that I don’t date a lot.

    [Editor: Are you a black guy? I know it’s a popular stereotype that black guys love fat chicks, especially fat white chicks, and there’s a kernel of truth to that, but we shouldn’t get carried away with smearing all black guys as fatty fuckers. In fact, most of the black dudes I know prefer slender, hourglass shaped women… just like the white guys prefer. I mean, if you look at what black men with a free choice in women choose, you’ll see that a lot of them are with thin girls. Off the top of my head, there’s Will Smith who married Jada, and she’s a sexy skinny babe.
    And another thing, not all black girls are ugly fatsos, which is a meme popular on HBD blogs. Yeah, *on average* perhaps black girls aren’t as delicately pretty as white or asian girls, but there are still plenty of hot black chicks. What made me think of this? Yesterday I passed by one of the hottest girls I have seen in a while — a black chick with a tapering hourglass waist and slender proportions all around, with just the right amount of plump goodness on her ass.]

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  85. on May 11, 2011 at 6:25 pm T-Doggz

    Oh man. So much to consider in this post…

    ““There aren’t many fat girls in Spain,” reports Charlotte, who spent six months as an exchange student there in 2006. Back then, she weighed 425, and she claims that the department organizers at her Northeastern women’s college tried to dissuade her from going abroad because she was “too big.” ”

    A Womens college telling a student *not* to go to Europe? I thought that was what they lived for.

    Were they worried about how she’d be treated?

    Or were they worried she’d make them look bad to sophisticated Europeans (!) cause she was “too big”?

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  86. on May 11, 2011 at 6:29 pm askjoe

    Oh this is rich, I was reading this article about David Foley and came across:

    Foley got divorced in the mid-’90s, when he was still a big television star, with the money and status that entails. His ex-wife wanted to be kept in the manner to which she’d grown accustomed even after Foley’s income plummeted along with his career, and prestigious roles in high-profile fare like NewsRadio and A Bug’s Life gave way to accepting bit parts in whatever promised to keep the lights on that month.
    The Kids In The Hall veteran owes $17,000 a month in child-support payments and now owes over a half million dollars in back payments. If Foley returns to his native Canada without paying off what he owes or working out an arrangement, he very well could be arrested.

    yup, it looks like hardwork and making a lot of money is the way to go.

    [Editor: Brutal. Fuck this system. Time for it to burn to the ground. Again, I ask, what the hell is in it for men to get married? All the incentives are pointing in the opposite direction.]

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  87. on May 11, 2011 at 6:40 pm Bohemian Rockstar

    This cracked me up on the train to work….well done

    In other words, Guys Who Like Fat Chicks are not make-believe. “We’re out there.”
    So are sheep fuckers and necrophiliacs.

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  88. on May 11, 2011 at 6:43 pm namae nanka

    “Do bisexuals have only half the genetic material to make them half-gay or has their sexual conditioning been such that they’re aroused by both genders?”

    http://www.pridesource.com/article.html?article=15015

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  89. on May 11, 2011 at 6:47 pm Harland

    Meh, chubby chasers are out there. Just one more fetish.

    The second time I went to China, it was for a month. Midway through, something started bothering me, I didn’t know what it was. I went to a KFC for a quick lunch and saw a fat kid in line – it suddenly hit me! There were no fat people in China! After that, I kept a lookout. China has plenty of crowds, it is nothing if not stuffed full of people. By the end of the month, I had seen exactly four fat people, and they weren’t grossly obese, just chubby. It was bizarre. When I exited the plane in America, I immediately saw three fat security guards in the jetway. China: one month four fatties. America: less than five seconds in the country and three.

    The really sad part of the story is the fat kid at KFC. That chain will be the death of slender Chinese women, I tell you.

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  90. on May 11, 2011 at 6:50 pm namae nanka

    Source article:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/05/health/05sex.html

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  91. on May 11, 2011 at 7:05 pm Harry Morgan

    Re David Foley:

    Lives in my neighborhood, so I see him around occasionally. Seems like a nice guy and often has his fairly young son with him (probably not the kid he’s playing child support on, given the timing of the divorce).

    Dude got robbed.

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  92. on May 11, 2011 at 7:14 pm Firepower

    Dave Foley

    “There. You’ve seen my penis and seen me take a crap onscreen. In a Uwe Boll film! My humiliation is complete. There is nothing more anyone can do to me. I have reached my personal and professional nadir and have decided to stay here at the bottom indefinitely. Heaven knows I can’t go back to Canada.”

    Why, the cheeky liar: In Canada, that qualifies him for Party membership.

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  93. on May 11, 2011 at 7:28 pm Omega Dork

    In Europe, there’s a rough correlation between fat and subrace. Spaniards, darker skinned French women, Italians, and Greeks are more likely to be think than U.K women and Scandinavian women.

    I think fat had a survival factor for those races that lived in northern areas.

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  94. on May 11, 2011 at 7:42 pm collegeslacker

    Think of how ballooned these fatties self-esteems are because of the attention they get from these men, it must be sickening.

    As you guys said before me, it is only just that we utterly ignore their very existence.

    I am proud to say I have been doing this since I became aware of how disgusting obese women are, aka man many years ago.

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  95. on May 11, 2011 at 7:57 pm David

    @fafal

    While you can lose weight eating mostly junk food like that Professor did, you will be battling serious hunger pains the entire time due to insulin reactions and your body’s need for nutrients. Most people would lose control on such a diet and not be able to restrict their calories.

    Almost everyone, however, if they switch to highly nutritious, unprocessed food(a big if I know) will lose weight especially if they avoid the starches and grains. They will also have the energy to exercise. They won’t get hungry as often and will feel satisfied with the meals they eat.

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  96. on May 11, 2011 at 8:40 pm Nnthnt1

    I don’t see how you could be provoked by his post though?

    He doesn’t mention anything about society values being wrong and acknowledges that he is, indeed, ‘out there’.

    He is not being an equalist at all. He’s just acknowledging he’s different… Sounds quite fascist to prevent that

    [Editor: Identify where in the original post I wrote that I wanted his choices and lifestyle to be “prevented”. And if you can’t do that… go shoot yourself in the nuts you filthy lying turdling.]

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  97. on May 11, 2011 at 9:38 pm JT

    SPAIN… You forgot the BIKINI FACTOR!!!!!

    Diet and exercise may explain Spaniards being thinner than Americans. But there is another *huge* factor.

    Modern Spain is first and foremost a touristic nation of beach-goers. Come Spring and every woman between 12 and 60 wants to look good in her bikini (or tankini or topless or swimsuit…)

    So if they spend the cold half part of the year competing among themselves about clothes, in summer their game is All Out Bikini War.

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  98. on May 11, 2011 at 9:50 pm Jason

    I work construction. I eat what I want, when I want. For 2 months this past winter I had pizza for lunch 5 days a week. I gained no weight. The fattest guys on any job are almost always the equipment operators who sit on their asses in heated/air conditioned machines.

    I don’t eat a lot of chips, cookies, or drink sugary soft drinks. If I did, even I would have a hard time keeping the weight under control.

    I don’t know what disgusts me more: the fatness, or the laziness. Contrary to the “scientific” data, the two go almost entirely hand in hand.

    Bitches who weigh 400lbs shouldn’t be called women.

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  99. on May 11, 2011 at 10:08 pm Gramps

    I just spent a pleasant interlude with a 21 yo nymphomaniac, a nine.

    That memory, and others like it, is why I don’t give a shit about fat women or the men who love them.

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  100. on May 11, 2011 at 10:09 pm javert

    The photo reminds me of an old joke:

    (fat chick goes on top)

    “Now, move”
    “Move? Get off first!!”

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  101. on May 11, 2011 at 10:28 pm TB

    I have been reading and enjoying this site for six months but have never posted until now. In payment of that debt, I now give all of you this gift.

    http://www.boundlessline.org/2011/05/miracle-on-matrimony-street.html

    Enjoy.

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  102. on May 11, 2011 at 10:43 pm FucksFatties

    I am the guy Brad Sexington III is talking about, or at least I feel like I could be.

    I think that men’s preferences for women are affected by the perceived availability of food in their environments, there’s the somewhat well-known in evolutionary psychology study describing the size of playboy covergirls changes in relation to the state of the economy.

    Personally, I find http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bolognese_artist_of_16th_century_or_Tiziano_Vecellio%E2%80%99s_imitator,_Death_of_Lucretia_Porczynski_Collection.jpg quite attractive.

    This would not have been considered beautiful if fat were universally unattractive: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Diana_and_Callisto_-_Palma_Vecchio.jpg

    I probably had something in my environment that set me to favoring the fatties, and yes, I do enjoy making mine do all the nasty shit I see in porn. Though I will say, I like girls with a ‘big’ body type, the girls who have a ‘skinny’ body type who have all sorts of fat stuffed into them look goddamn disgusting.

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  103. on May 11, 2011 at 11:36 pm MattW

    It’s crazy how much weight loss does for a woman. When they’re obese they are actively repulsive, but get down to the right weight and…

    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-book/success-stories/

    Look the the pictures in the story that starts “I was always a little on the heavy side, ever since I had my tonsils and adenoids taken out in kindergarten.”
    After losing weight her market value goes up about 3-5 points. That’s incredible.

    When I see big girls (especially that are young, teens and 20s) I’m sad for us guys, but also for them. They’d be far happier if they found the will to bring their weight down.

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  104. on May 12, 2011 at 12:00 am Anonymous

    Fatness = stupidity and laziness.

    Almost all fat girls want to be skinny/skinny again. But they all lack willpower or intelligence to create a plan.

    Too bad.

    They try to laugh it off but it makes their rolls move which is nasty.

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  105. on May 12, 2011 at 12:13 am T-Doggz

    Anon – “Fatness = stupidity and laziness”.

    I hear you, but from what I can tell it’s more like Compulsiveness and Lack of Self Restraint/Discipline.

    Fat chics can be pretty energetic, which makes them think they aren’t lazy, their just afflicted with fatness. The thing is they don’t have the self control to keep with anything. Hence obesity. No discipline.

    Being around fat chicks is nasty. Part of it is cause they just look gross. The other part is they are always big time irrational.

    I spent time growing up around them. I wished that wasnt’ the case, but it is. We all need to be honest.

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  106. on May 12, 2011 at 12:23 am pjay

    First, a confession. My girlfriend weighs 588 lbs and is 5 feet 3. She is largely immobile, and through a pulley and track system in my apartment, she is able to be moved to and from the bathroom for elimination, bathing, etc.

    When I rub a silicone-based lubricant on and throughout her many folds and crevices, they present a landscape of possibilities for lovemaking. She and I have an almost spiritual bond.

    When I put Monica in her lifting harness and slide her to the bathroom, it is a demonstration of our love that I swab her gently in the oversized tub that is like a second home to her.

    When she rolls over slowly to take me in her mouth or one of her many slippery crevices…..it is bliss.

    Stop the hate:

    http://www.dimensionsmagazine.com/dimtext/positions/fat_sex.html

    [Editor: LOL.]

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  107. on May 12, 2011 at 12:26 am T-Doggz

    I have to add, it’s funny how feminists are so into pushing fat acceptence – among men. I thought they didnt give a shit what guys thought. But they reaaaaly want men to think a whale is the same as a Victoria’s Secret model. And, funny enough, they cant understand the hypocrisy here..

    Ugh.

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  108. on May 12, 2011 at 12:27 am Lotez

    Oh shit, some people don’t learn a thing….
    http://www.dlisted.com/2011/05/10/paul-mccartney-really-hasnt-learned-shit

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  109. on May 12, 2011 at 12:34 am Levy_Spermin

    Fat people need to be thrown into the colosseum and be ripped apart by lions. Fat people need to be exiled into the largest deserts to be forgotten. Fat people need to be beaten to death. Fat people need to have their bellies cut open and have their own fat fed to them as they bleed to death. Fat people need to be tossed into volcanoes. Fat people need to be impaled. Fat people need to die. Please, please, read this and learn wisdom.

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  110. on May 12, 2011 at 12:38 am Ashley

    “Fatness = stupidity and laziness.

    Almost all fat girls want to be skinny/skinny again. But they all lack willpower or intelligence to create a plan.

    Too bad.

    They try to laugh it off but it makes their rolls move which is nasty.”

    @Anon

    Dude are you kidding me? Do you understand that being overweight can also be based on genetics. I have been overweight my whole life!!! I currently weigh a little over 200 pounds. I exercise and eat healthy. For some people dropping pounds is not that easy and I refuse to starve myself to impress men like you. Even with the weight I have had no shortage of men to date. Black men show me a lot of love they appreciate a woman with curves!! While out with black men weak minded “NO Fat chicks” white guys like yourself always look at us with disgust. Why?? Oh I know the answer jealousy. Also, black women stare which is no surprise since they are chronically single whether they are fat or skinny. Do I feel sorry that a “fat white chick” like myself can pick up their men so easily? Nope!! thats part of the privilege of being a white woman.

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  111. on May 12, 2011 at 12:44 am pjay

    Love:

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  112. on May 12, 2011 at 12:49 am J-style

    Contrast this picture of V-E day in Russia with the freaks from the Slut March:

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  113. on May 12, 2011 at 1:08 am Kyle

    I live in a town in Japan. There are a few chubby looking people here but people are overwhelmingly in good health from eating right and staying physically active despite the fact you have to do everything by car here.

    My students are all healthy and even the chubby girls can be cute. Twentysomething girls even here in the northeast are slender, attractive, and dress incredibly well. I’m never going back to the American hellhole of fat and sweatpants.

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  114. on May 12, 2011 at 1:23 am froopy

    Growing up in countries where you could walk everywhere, then moving to the US, I’m astonished and disheartened when I see so many streets with no sidewalks, or pathetic attempts at sidewalks that go nowhere and end abrubtly – they make it impossible here to get around here without a car.

    >What about biking?

    yeah great if you don’t mind taking your chances getting bowled over by a drunk redneck in a pickup truck while cycling on a narrow road with no cycle lane.

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  115. on May 12, 2011 at 1:37 am Mucius Scaevola

    😦 idk if i can masterbate tonite now

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  116. on May 12, 2011 at 2:16 am cj

    Part of the cause of the fat explosion was the purposeful ghettoization of America culture. Back in the late 80s or early 90s lefty/feminist drones like Phil Donahue were whining about how awful it was that white women were so obsessed about their weight and why couldn’t they be happy about their bodies like all those oh-so-well-adjusted black women. Why, thin is almost a form of racism, innit? And I don’t think it’s a coincidence that manateeism exploded among young white women at the same time Rap became popular, mainstreaming this attitude.

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  117. on May 12, 2011 at 2:45 am Smeq

    It’s just too bad Europe is being drowned in its own socialism/feminism…

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  118. on May 12, 2011 at 2:50 am Serenety

    When I am asked by women (and it has been always women
    until now) if I watched The Biggest Loser on the idiot box I always correct them and say

    Its The Fattest Loser, not just the biggest.

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  119. on May 12, 2011 at 2:53 am epiclolz

    that picture is extremely disturbing.

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  120. on May 12, 2011 at 2:59 am epiclolz

    @extinguish a shoggoth perhaps?

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  121. on May 12, 2011 at 3:35 am Mu'Min Seeks FAAAAT WuMin

    [Editor: Paging Mu’min seeks fat wu’min…]

    Allow me to introduce myself.

    Obsidian, who also goes by the name Mu’Min Bey as an astrologer, was a regular commenter here, who had an extreme fat fetish. Even more so than other black men. In order to make fun of him, I adoped the handle I have.

    I called him ‘Obese-dian the ASS-trologer’ as well. His departure makes my existence here less relevant.

    But nonetheless….

    Black men have what any other race of men would consider to be a fat fetish. They will happily fuck women who are obese. The reason for this is goes back to their origins in Africa, where the four largest megafauna, the elephant, hippo, rhino, and Cape buffalo, were powerful, dominant species with no natural predators, and the mass to weather droughts and food shortages more than other species’.

    As a result, black men admire traits in black women that make them resemble these 4 megafauna. These traits are not just size, but also shape, color, and texture. Let me repeat : the more a woman resembles the four megafauna in size, shape, color, and texture, the more attractive a black man finds her.

    Some would even add that black men prefer that their women also match the pugnacious disposition of the hippo or Cape buffalo.

    Now, on to modern US sexual dynamics :

    The increasing obesity of American women is due to the fact that black men reward this obesity. Part of the reason European women are thin is because Europe does not have black men to reward obesity. In America, however, being obese still enables a woman to be fucked by a black man.

    For all the griping of black men about America being rigged against them, they are benefiting from the reality of women evolving toward what black men like, and away from what non-black men like.

    [Editor: This never stops being funny.]

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  122. on May 12, 2011 at 3:58 am Phoenix

    Time and time again I’ve had the fattest chicks throw themselves at me, all because I was nice enough to just share a 5 minute conversation with them.

    Why the fuck should I be nice to them?

    “I can hear your labored breathing and it’s making me sick. I think you might have a heart attack soon, get to the ER”

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  123. on May 12, 2011 at 6:56 am Jay Fink

    I have a black friend who is only attracted to obese white women. He even attends BBW conventions.Yes there is actually such a thing. That’s the last place in the world I would like to be at.

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  124. on May 12, 2011 at 7:21 am Thin-Skinned Soft-Spined Masta-Beta-Wanka

    Regarding unattractively overweight ladies:

    I thought that theory of game suggests that when opening sets of women, attention should first be given to the less attractive and a cold shoulder to the desired target.

    Wouldn’t this require game players to fake a certain interest in the fatties or at least try some polite civility?

    However in my mind if I see a female that suits my taste, but in slovenly, obese or trashy company, I suspect that she also has no problem, is non-judgmental, of all things slovenly, obese or trashy.

    Just to make something clear, we are distinguishing between the obese freaks and the somewhat juicy? There is a big continuum from the Olive Oyl types built like pre-pubescent boys and the scary blimps. I have to confess findng some of the juicier women also quite interestng. However the pool of women on this side of the Atlantic isn’t yet as completely polluted with fatties and that skinny girls are common enough not to be so exotic and in high demand.

    Given the face of an angel, I’ll be quite satisfied with the body of a cherubette. You know what they say; ladies can stay young looking, but they have to choose either their ass or their face. But there are limits. Has anyone ever seen one of these extremely fattened up beasts keep an angelic face?

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  125. on May 12, 2011 at 7:28 am Thin-Skinned Soft-Spined Masta-Beta-Wanka

    @ J-style

    Not dressed as sluts but oh la la schwinggg!

    Those ladies are much more tempting that the trashy ‘ho feminists. I fear that they would be much more in danger of being ravished than their harpy-American cousins.

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  126. on May 12, 2011 at 7:43 am spiralina

    I’m an elementary school teacher and the most disturbing thing to me are the increasing numbers of obese children walking around. We are talking diabetes, laboured breathing, brown rotting teeth and everything. It’s one of the deadliest forms of child abuse and nothing is being done to address it.

    The other day I was in the grocery store and saw an average weight Filipina woman with her young son, about 9 or 10. He was obese, a good 50+ pounds overweight for his age, and sitting IN the grocery cart playing a video game while she struggled to push it down the aisle. I wanted to scream at her, “Get your damn kid out of the cart and make him WALK!” Obese kids turn into obese adults, and it’s twice as hard for them to lose the weight since fat cells form in childhood. Disgusting.

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  127. on May 12, 2011 at 8:05 am Girls and Sleep

    Citizen Renegade wrote, “…gelatinous cubes…”

    This is either an indirect reference to Wayne’s World or it is a direct reference to Dungeons and Dragons.

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  128. on May 12, 2011 at 8:06 am Jerry

    I’m in shock.

    I just got off an encounter with an elusive 10 (an amazon with perfect proportions who makes Xena the Warrior Princess look like a troll). A 10 is defined as the rare type that can make the most confident guy turn into a quivering bowl of jello.

    A 10 is the type that you want to immediately reproduce with. You actually want one of those to get pregnant even if it will cost you. Most guys never have sex with anything close to a 10. Of course, a 10 can become a 9, 8, 7 as the years pass (when men are likely to get her). But, if you are going to reproduce, you want it to be with a 10 just like women want to reproduce with an alpha (even if alpha is a learned behavior).

    Most of the time, 10s in public (they’re always only in public), are very quick to answer and keep moving if a man opens with a question about where the post office is or something. Almost all the time they are surrounded by girlfriends (sometimes 9s themselves but the difference between a 10 and a 9 is logarithmic), and one of these (usually a 7 or an 8) is often a cockblocker who says “we’re in a rush and have to go”.

    I was getting served food at an upscale cafeteria when she walked in with two friends. I couldn’t help but stare, luckily into her eyes, and she looked at me and I could just barely say “Hello” without the voice squeaking like a mouse after which I turned to jello and turned toward going to the cash register. She had said hello but quickly looked down. Three minutes later I tried “Do you speak English” to her and she said no like that was a bizarre question and looked down again.

    Normally I have all the confidence in the world with women but this time I was scared to death. This was not someone I wanted to be rejected by (not because of ego but because I really wanted to date this one). I took my two trays of food and retreated (and I still don’t know how I managed to do that when my arms and legs were like jello). I sat down at a table. She and her friends bought their food and the 7 of the group led the others outside to a table on the street.

    I managed to eat (the presence of a 10 will normally cause a man indigestion for at least 30 minutes).

    Then I talked myself into “walking into machine gun fire” and walked outside and approached their table as if I were about to walk past it. Luckily, one of her friends smiled at me enough to cause her to also look and smile at me. I stopped and said “I didn’t mean to scare you by talking with you on the checkout line”. There ensued a conversation.

    She is 18, going to college. She admits that every guy wants to date her. At one point she admitted that I wasn’t handsome enough for her but her friends started laughing hard when I said “I know I’m an ugly dwarf”. She then started laughing as well, realizing that she was being picky.

    But the conversation had gotten into what it was about her that made me interested and I had replied that it was her genetics. She had every right to respond honestly about whether my genetics qualified with her.

    Much of the time she looked down as if signalling “the conversation is over, please leave.” Most guys would have “taken the hint” and excused themselves (extricated themselves from the conversation). It was that awkward.

    That was the moment when I felt like machine guns were firing into me.

    But extricating myself “with honor” would have been a massive mistake.

    Rule #2 after “Always approach the 9s and 10s” is “Ride out the awkwardness if it happens”.

    I had already successfully negged her with an amusing story of how, when women are 18 they can be stuck up about their looks and the way all men want them, then when they are 19 they are wondering why many of the best men are looking at their younger sister, then at 20 they are thinking “OK nice guy you can marry me now” and at 21 it’s “Please marry me nice guy”.

    This got them all laughing hard.

    That wouldn’t get a laugh in feminist America where you’d have to use 5 year intervals to say the same thing (and feminist American women would still take offense), but it’s a very effective story in non-feminist cultures. It politely tells them that their day in the Sun is now and it won’t last.

    The difference between a feminist and a non-feminist is that the latter can be told about reality and agree with it.

    But this woman has the choice of getting any man she wants.

    The moment of truth was in asking for the number. Some guys make the grave mistake of “quitting while they’re ahead” which is the same as stopping before a finish line.

    I knew that nothing about the set would be successful if I did not get that number. Getting the laughs and entertaining a set of women means nothing. Young guys need to remember that.

    She’d already said, in the conversation about genetics, that I wasn’t physically up to her standards. She hadn’t been arrogant or rude in saying that, but she was simply admitting that better looking men were pursuing her. I had countered with “But you would want the genes for my IQ”. That had caused her to turn beet red and look down as her friends laughed.

    I went ahead and asked to meet with her, making sure to say “only give me your number if you seriously want to meet up with me”. She said she really did and gave me her number.

    Of all people I’d expect to flake, she’d be at the top (although she insisted that she really was OK with meeting me again).

    I’m in shock I got that far. In fact, knowing I got that far with her, I won’t be the least nervous about approaching mere 9s and 8s for a long while.

    This is why I disagree with the Chateau about just approaching women 2 points higher on the looks scale. Go for broke.

    Push your limits.

    The worst that could happen is it gets easier to approach those at your limit.

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  129. on May 12, 2011 at 8:11 am Gil

    Actually such fat-fetishists should be supported in that if there’s enough of them they’ll take the fat girls out of the dating market. It’s like when you hear when heaps of guys are gay and think just means less competition for the straight guys.

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  130. on May 12, 2011 at 8:24 am gig

    One time in Spain, an old woman spotted Charlotte in public, stopped abruptly, and crossed herself. “Like I was Satan.”

    GOD
    BLESS
    SPAIN

    America’s war on bullying is just another facet of America’s war against female beauty wherever it can be found. Bullying is good for society and leads to less betas and less fatties

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  131. on May 12, 2011 at 8:33 am Bully

    The picture reminds me of:

    T-Rex: Hi fellas, I’m ready to fuck.
    Orgazmo: Huh?
    T-Rex: You want me on top?
    Orgazmo: Uh… NO! I’ll be on top!
    T-Rex: You’re gonna make me cum, or I’m gonna kick your butt!
    Maxxx Orbison: Aaaand… action!
    [T-Rex throws Orgazmo down and starts dry humping him]
    T-Rex: Oh! Come on nah! Come on nah! You make me so hot nah! You make me so hot!

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  132. on May 12, 2011 at 9:48 am PA

    @FAAAAT WuMin above: the reason your comments go to mod each time is because the four-letter prefix you use with the word “fauna” is a moderation trigger.

    On a related note, an older commenter on another blog asked about mid-range looking girls: “can’t betas date girls who are 4s or 5s?”

    My response is that there aren’t a whole lot of those kinds of girls. A girl in the middle of a normal looks bell curve would normally be thin, not heartachingly pretty but not unattractive either. You see them all over Eastern Europe, and you used to see them in America through the eighties.

    In part for the reasons that FAAAT WuMin describes, many of those girls let their gluttony and sloth sweep them away on the fat tsunami.

    In a way, the 1-10 scale is inapplicable to girls here. Instead, you have something like this 1-3 scale, if my evil male gaze captures a correct representation of young American womanhood:

    1s: vast majority of twenty-something women; thick to morbidly obese. I lump them all in one category because I am not attracted to thick women, if “thick” means large thighs and asses, and big liquidy boobs, even if she’s not technically obese.

    2s: a minority of women; thin but not beautiful. They are de-facto 8’s on the traditional scale, even if they should be 4/5’s.

    3s: an even smaller minority of women; both thin and pretty. De facto 10’s.

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  133. on May 12, 2011 at 9:52 am PA

    One time in Spain, an old woman spotted [fat] Charlotte in public, stopped abruptly, and crossed herself. “Like I was Satan.”

    This is why the storm that sank the Spanish Armada was one of the greatest tragedies in mankind’s history.

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  134. on May 12, 2011 at 10:00 am okelele

    “Yesterday I passed by one of the hottest girls I have seen in a while — a black chick with a tapering hourglass waist and slender proportions all around, with just the right amount of plump goodness on her ass.”

    Indeed – a preference for somewhat bigger booty doesn´t make a man, black or white, a fatty fucker.

    As for the whole “I walked off 75 pounds by walking 4 miles a day, allow me to smirk:

    Walking those four miles compared to being at rest will burn off an extra 160 kcal or so. A pound of body fat is about 3500 kcal worth of energy.

    Hence, it would take about four and a half years of this walking regimen to burn off 75 pounds worth of body fat, assuming no impact on appetite (a debatable proposition in itself).

    She was in Spain for six months. I´d venture that she probably also cut down on her twinkie intake during her Spanish stay as well.

    “[Editor: Taubes being right (which I suspect he partially is) doesn’t discredit my denigration of fatties. Think about it.]”

    Yep. Extreme fatness and metabolic syndrome is not just some “preference thing”. It´s a serious disease.

    People who try to “normalize” land whale syndrome (shudder), or who insist that they should be considered attractive despite their deformity, are engaged in a decadent enterprise, attempting to normalize the destruction of health and beauty, and hence deserve to be shamed for the good of society.

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  135. on May 12, 2011 at 10:25 am Anton

    “manateeism”. Nice.

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  136. on May 12, 2011 at 10:51 am itsme

    He even attends BBW conventions.Yes there is actually such a thing.

    there are even such things as bbw strip clubs.

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  137. on May 12, 2011 at 11:13 am Hippopotimus

    I was in Europe in March.

    Milan, Paris, London and A’Dam

    The first thing I remarked was how stunning and beautiful Italian girls are. They would kill themselves if they were fat. Even on the Riviera coast where I was staying, they were even more beautiful. With really no job prospects in shitty, tiny towns other than mom and pop shops, they had to attract the top tier.

    Paris was more of the same. The women were of a different look and style obviously, but no fat. None whatsoever.

    Then I hit up London.

    Putrid. My disgust for the UK is always confirmed when I encounter the British. The weirdest bodies, pears all of them, arrogant. The women are vile who don’t know how to shut the fuck up.

    Amsterdam was the land of large women. Very beautiful, but large. And a shitload of bikes.

    In mainland Europe, I honestly on saw a dozen fat tubs of lard, the moment I landed back in North America, it was the opposite. Tubby’s everywhere.

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  138. on May 12, 2011 at 11:32 am the dude

    High oil prices leads to more Americans walking, thus high oil prices are positive for US long term fiscal outlook as obesity decreases

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  139. on May 12, 2011 at 11:49 am itsme

    High oil prices leads to more Americans walking

    not so sure about this. if you need to drive, say, 30 miles to work every day, you’re not going to suddenly give up your car and walk to work. some people may bike it, but i doubt these people are in the majority. the majority would either suck it up and pay more for gas, or trade their car in for a more fuel efficient one. either way, they’re not getting any more exercise.

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  140. on May 12, 2011 at 11:50 am Passingby

    “In America, however, being obese still enables a woman to be fucked by a black man.

    I say it again: visit any local courthouse near a reasonably-sized city, and you will see fat white women in their 20s carrying around mixed race kids, on their way to some sort of custody/support hearing about the black father.

    You don’t see the black fathers with those women. You don’t see white family members with those mothers. Fat white chicks can still get pounded by a black man they find attractive, so they do. Kids result.

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  141. on May 12, 2011 at 11:54 am Passingby

    “I currently weigh a little over 200 pounds. I exercise and eat healthy. For some people dropping pounds is not that easy and I refuse to starve myself to impress men like you. Even with the weight I have had no shortage of men to date. Black men show me a lot of love they appreciate a woman with curves!!”

    FAt = unburned calories. Want to lose fat? Eat fewer calories than you burn. Physics and chemistry determine your amount of fat. Physics and chemistry. Not “genetics”. That determines things like height, eye color, hair loss.

    FAt=unburned calories, lady. Keep saying it until you accept it.

    Oh, and calling fat “curves” is pathetic.

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  142. on May 12, 2011 at 12:01 pm itsme

    FAt = unburned calories. Want to lose fat? Eat fewer calories than you burn. Physics and chemistry determine your amount of fat. Physics and chemistry. Not “genetics”.

    but that would shift the responsibility for the way she looks onto her! clearly not acceptable in this day and age.

    ‘i can’t help being a fat fuck, it’s genetic!’

    spin, hamster, spin!

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  143. on May 12, 2011 at 12:04 pm Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

    Calories-in calories-out is bullshit, endocrinology is king.

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  144. on May 12, 2011 at 12:11 pm Passingby

    “Calories-in calories-out is bullshit, endocrinology is king”

    I tell peole who claim “it’s glandular!” or some sort of metabolism mullshit, to track their activity level and their food intake. Then go burn 2000 calories a day for a month, while eating 1500 calories a day. If you can still gain weight, you are a perpetual motion machine or God, and we really want to study you.

    I get all the talk that avoiding twinkies and eating steak is the key. It is in the sense that the way we live, with food everywhere for essentially no money, people will find it easier to control their appetite by eating certain foods relative to others. And by controlling appetite, they will make that calories in/calories out equation easier to deal with, as we are designed to be “calories in, NOW!”-oriented machines.

    But in the end, the laws of physics and chemistry apply. Insulin is simply a manifestation of those laws, not an exception to them.

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  145. on May 12, 2011 at 12:53 pm Kyo

    Roissy, thank you for mentioning the scourge that is automobile-centrism. In the USA’s headlong post-WWII rush to give “rights” to every minority under the sun — a good thing, at times — they created a whole new group of second-class citizens: people without automobiles. Better to be born unable to walk than to have an eyesight problem that prevents you from driving: the latter will make you unemployable in all but the biggest cities, and will complicate your life in countless small ways as everything from supermarket food sizes to housebuilding standards presuppose that every person has a car.

    The one advantage we car-deprived people have is that we don’t have to do any extra work to stay thin. Europe and east Asia: the women are beautiful, the train-based society is egalitarian, and when Peak Oil really starts to kick in, there won’t be any riots!

    @ Kyle – Have to agree; I live in Japan as well, and there are no fat people. Even the mildly-chubby girls still dress well; indeed, they put in extra effort. No sweatpants, no flip-flops. I know women who literally don’t own a single pair of pants; skirts every single day. It’s heaven and the US is hell.

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  146. on May 12, 2011 at 1:25 pm A French guy living in CA

    Entitled fat girls and their supporters are a very important part of Anglo American culture. Just walk down the streets of London and you will find fat White girls every where just as in any American city. The only thin women you can find are dark skinned Hindu girls.

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  147. on May 12, 2011 at 1:38 pm William

    I remember going to Toys R Us to pick up a video game.

    I’m standing in line and these two kids just keep walking around me as their mother is standing behind me.
    One was a boy and the other was a girl, both very fat and no way over the age of 11.

    The boy was wearing a t-shirt two sizes two big and drinking a big bottle of soda.

    The mother seemed to have gained some weight and was trying to hide it by wearing her pants over her stomach.

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  148. on May 12, 2011 at 1:41 pm beta_plus

    I respectfully disagree with the author’s thesis that being forced to walk is the primary driver for keeping women from rich countries slender. By this measure, Canadian women should be the second fattest in the world. But they are not:

    British Women are – a land where driving is VERY expensive

    However, France, where driving is only moderately more expensive than America and not UK levels expensive, has almost completely bucked the fat chick plague.

    My thesis is that rich societies with thin women have thin women because those women are forced to learn how to cook for themselves at a young age. I realize that there must be French people who don’t know how to cook, but I’ve never met any. France makes this palatable for feminists because while Madeleine is forced to learn how to cook, so is Pierre. The difference is that Madeleine will use this skill to keep herself and her future children thin, while Pierre will use this to sleep with Madeleine foreign exchange bff Jennifer from Boston. Italy is probably similar. This supports my comparison above since in my experience Canadians are generally better home cooks than Brits (lived in Canada for 5 years, have visited the UK more times than I can count). Remember – this is about relative obesity rates between countries – I just need Canadian chicks to be LESS fat than British chicks, not all slender (which Canadian chicks are not w/the exception of Montreal).

    The unfortunate consequence of this is that this does not bode well for Eastern Europe growing wealthier. They don’t have the same culinary traditions as France, and their chicks may start getting fat. Something like this has already happened in Scandinavia, a land with the world’s most expensive driving, highest food costs, and paid-for-by-government-extorting-from-beta-males healthcare.

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  149. on May 12, 2011 at 1:42 pm Kw3li

    These comments are priceless. Submit muthaf*ckas

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  150. on May 12, 2011 at 3:08 pm collegeslacker

    All of these comments about the thinness of girls from abroad is like describing the waters of Caladan to a Fremen…

    A place without fat chicks? Nearly incomprehensible to this American, though I wish it wasn’t so.

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  151. on May 12, 2011 at 5:53 pm justadude

    I guarantee you that dan is a closeted fag.

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  152. on May 12, 2011 at 6:10 pm odinmp5

    first post. im colombian, with scandinavian ancestry. colombia, the land hollywood always shows as a shit hole.
    (and in some ways it is,, but when it comes to women, its kind of cool.) why? i am not even a beta, i am probably a “delta”, but the quality of ass i get to bang is way higuer than what my alpha buddies in florida have to sweat for.

    and since i found this blog and im learning game, this is getting interesting. thanks people, you all have helped.

    my experiment: how many “chubbies” (more than 15 pounds overweight) can i see while using crowded public transport every day during a month.

    how many almost morbidly obese (more than 60 punds overweight)

    how many totally morbidly obese (more than 80 punds overweight)

    Bogota: capital city population 8 million

    -average chubbies per day : 15

    -almost morbidly obese : 1 every month

    – totally morbidly obese : none

    medellin: second largest city population 3 million

    -average chubbies per day : 3

    -almost morbidly obese : none

    – totally morbidly obese : none

    cali: third largest city population 2 million

    -average chubbies per day : 2

    -almost morbidly obese : none

    – totally morbidly obese : none

    barranquilla : fourth largest city population 2 million

    -average chubbies per day : 7

    -almost morbidly obese : 1

    – totally morbidly obese : none

    san andres: island archipielago population 200.000

    -average chubbies per day : none

    -almost morbidly obese : none

    – totally morbidly obese : 5 ( THEY WERE ALL SPEAKING ENGLISH WITH AMERICAN ACCENT)

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  153. on May 12, 2011 at 6:29 pm Wanderer

    There’s nothing adaptive about liking 400 pound women. First, there never *were* 400 pound women to adapt to liking. Second, that kinda mass ain’t good for fertility, even if there were.

    How do you think your typical 10th century ancestor would react to seeing a Ferrari? A fancy watch? They’d have no idea what they are. Our attraction to those is significantly socially determined. Also, see all the naked chicks in old paintings – though they were heavy, not planet-sized.

    If you surveyed women on how many partners they’ve had, you think they’d tell the truth? Your reaction to guys who are attracted to fat chicks is clear and emphatic disdain. Why would you think they’d be honest about it, if surveyed? It’s just like I’m sure there are a lot more guys who like a finger up the ass during a blowjob than would admit it if you went around asking them.

    That said, this particular guy/set of people is probably highly anomalous. That 230 lb chick you quoted had a BMI of 45, WAY into “morbidly obese.” Just because only ~1% of men are into dudes with a BMI over 40, hardly means a tiny percentage are into a BMI around 28. Granted, I have no idea if you’re wrong, but, like figuring out the average number of partners women have, this is not an easy thing to figure out. And the idea that society doesn’t shape our desires is ludicrous. It just doesn’t *feel* like society shapes our desires, because it operates directly on them.

    [Editor: The first time I laid eyes on a cutie at the ripe age of 13 a thermonuclear blast of lust shot from my brain straight into my groin, and my hair stood up and heart raced. My reaction was purely instinctual, bubbling up from the deepest recess of my essence. Society had no say in how I reacted to that slender high school babe that day. In other words, you are full of it.]

    Think you’d have all the same values if you’d been born into bin Laden’s family?

    [Values are not the same as sexual desire. But thanks for playing.]

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  154. on May 12, 2011 at 6:45 pm Markku

    Rollo Tomassi:

    “So with that in mind, here is the Rollo Tomassi take on homosexuality: Until such time as biologist can empirically prove a ‘gay gene’ (or genetic combinations that predispose a person to homosexuality), I believe the root of homosexual sexual expression is behavioral.”

    I think you’re making the mistake of equating “biological” with “genetic”. Homosexuality may have something to do with exposure with the wrong doses of hormones during critical phases of prenatal development.

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  155. on May 12, 2011 at 7:00 pm Dat_Truth_Hurts

    @Markku

    I agree – brain scans have shown gay men’s brains to be so similar to heterosexual women’s brains, and lesbians showed similarities to heterosexual men’s brains.

    Hormones are the gatekeepers of sex, bodyfat, desire, rage, empathy. Exposure to the correct levels of testosterone and estrogen are key to fetal development. The ring finger indicator is highly correlated to testosterone levels during fetal development.

    Of course there will always be freaks who for some reason like to fuck both men and women, but there is a reason that most lesbians look and act like men from an early age, and many flaming gay men act like pansies while young.

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  156. on May 12, 2011 at 7:58 pm ♠A

    A friend of mine [S] had this exchange while he was attending culinary school =

    Female Classmate: All this French cuisine is SO fattening! How are French women so skinny?!

    S: They stay thin because they walk or ride a bike to the restaurant, eat small portions – slowly while conversing, which more easily permits their bodies to tell them when they are full – and then walk or ride a bike home.

    I felt it was apropos here.

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  157. on May 12, 2011 at 9:11 pm David

    @Ashley

    “I exercise and eat healthy. For some people dropping pounds is not that easy and I refuse to starve myself to impress men like you.”

    NO ONE has to starve to be thin. You cannot be eating healthy while simultaneously weighing over 200lbs. You need to ditch whatever propaganda you are believing about the foods you are eating and find the right mix of foods for your genetics.

    If you want to break out of the Matrix start with the marksdailyapple link someone else provided above.

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  158. on May 12, 2011 at 9:18 pm senseiern

    Bobboy Slayton, who should be the patron saint of CR, says the reason you do not see skinny older latinos in the USA is because the fat old ladies eat them.

    Roissy, he performs at the DC Improv every year. You should put together some kind of group meeting at his show.

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  159. on May 12, 2011 at 11:00 pm Mukluk

    Selena Castro’s hot though.

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  160. on May 12, 2011 at 11:09 pm Ashley

    I have no problem getting dates from desirable black men and even some Latin men. So, I will continue to try to eat healthy and exercise whenever I have the chance.
    Why is it so hard for people to understand that obesity can be the result of genetics? Some people cannot lose weight easily.
    Alot of you men in this forum I bet are way below average so you can all go to hell with that “No Fat Chicks” slogan. Thats why many of you are jealous of black men’s masculinity, dark skin, and athleticism!!

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  161. on May 12, 2011 at 11:50 pm Mukluk

    Actually it can’t be the result of genetics. Evolution does not give us genes that would cause us to be slow, weak, tired, or easy prey for our predators.

    If you eat normal, natural foods and get a normal, natural amount of activity, you will have a normal, natural physique. If you eat artificial trash and sit on your ass all fuckin day, then you will look like a full garbage bag.

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  162. on May 13, 2011 at 1:17 am jenna

    McLean Bible Church reference lol

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  163. on May 13, 2011 at 9:39 am Paladin

    @FucksFatties: WTF? You talk about how fat isn’t ugly and link to a picture that has normal chicks. It’s like Roissy tweeted recently about a SWPL saying how he likes his girls chubby while pointing to the skinniest girl around. There is a huge difference between “normal” or “slightly overweight” and “obese” or “fat”.

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  164. on May 13, 2011 at 10:54 am mewanthoneycomb

    One thing I want to inquire about meeting people in walking cities. DC is one of the most walkable cities but meeting people in this city becomes a headache due to constantly walking by SWPL yuppie douchebags and broads who constantly give shit-eating grins. To you whenever you even indiscreetly look at them. Someone, for the love of God, explain this contradiction.

    [Editor: You know that face people make when they smell something bad? Or that face cute chicks make when an omega drools on them? Yeah, make that face when one of those SWPL broads gives you the shit-eating grin.]

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  165. on May 13, 2011 at 11:25 am itsme

    I have no problem getting dates from desirable black men and even some Latin men. So, I will continue to try to eat healthy and exercise whenever I have the chance.
    Why is it so hard for people to understand that obesity can be the result of genetics? Some people cannot lose weight easily.
    Alot of you men in this forum I bet are way below average so you can all go to hell with that “No Fat Chicks” slogan. Thats why many of you are jealous of black men’s masculinity, dark skin, and athleticism!!

    and yet here you are, trying to qualify yourself to us ‘way below average’ men….

    news flash: mudshark meat isn’t a delicacy.

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  166. on May 13, 2011 at 11:38 am Peter A

    At least in Boston and NYC, I just don’t see a lot of fatties. The urban Northeastern US is not that much different from Germany. Or maybe I am literally “not seeing” the fatties because I don’t consider them women any more than I would consider a sheep or a picnic table a woman (and apparently some men will put their dicks in those holes as well).

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  167. on May 13, 2011 at 11:46 am chi-town

    The US Army Corps of Engineers requests 24 hour notification on intent to bathe.

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  168. on May 13, 2011 at 3:31 pm ElProf

    Tonight at 11:

    1. Women lie about how many sex partners they’ve had!
    2. Men are strongly attracted to women they’d never be seen with in public.
    3. Fat chicks are bad at sticking to their diets.
    4. Water is wet
    5. People’s behaviour and preferences are significantly influenced by their peer group and surrounding culture. Note the “crazy shit” Asian people eat.

    Catch this and more on the Common Fucking Knowledge News Network! We thank the R-tards that are our audience for keeping us in business telling you shit that everyone knows!

    Seriously, the some-guys-are-attracted-to-chicks-they-wouldn’t-be-caught-dead-in-public with is enough of a truism that it’s been lampooned on Family Guy – probably not a bastion of feminist thought. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_Then_There_Were_Fewer)

    If dudes will sleep with fat chicks, but won’t show them to their friends because it’s embarrassing, it’s not a big leap to figure that if their friends didn’t think it was embarrassing, they wouldn’t be hesitant to show them.

    Like that guy mentioned in the article who left the 325lb chick. It’s not like he woke up one morning and realized, “Holy shit, you’re twice my size and I could go surfing on your back! I thought you were Megan Fox!” If he rejected her citing his frat brothers, that’s one thing, but if he dumped her after a year, well, it’s not like he wasn’t into her.

    [Editor: Men have always been less discriminating than women. It doesn’t mean that fat chicks are the preferred partners of these desperate fatty fucking men. It just means that some loser men know they’ll get their rocks off in some flabby hole that they have no intention of proudly showing off in public.]

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  169. on May 13, 2011 at 4:54 pm formerpork

    Ohhhh my eyes….I need to thank you for that though. Now I know how to reach my daughter. she is starting to pack the ‘freshman 15’ on and isnt even a freshman yet….this pic will slap her upside the head like none of my warnings and offers to include her in my workouts will.

    Any other suggestions from those here? Preferably ones that wont get me tagged as a judgmental oppresive parent by other adults.

    Thank you

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  170. on May 14, 2011 at 2:05 am Serenety

    Some guys just have a thing for Jabba the Slutt

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  171. on May 14, 2011 at 2:47 am Nicole

    Poor Ashley says, “I have no problem getting dates from desirable black men and even some Latin men. So, I will continue to try to eat healthy and exercise whenever I have the chance.”

    Do you not see your own words? Even though you’re not model thin, you do exercise, so you’re not a total wreck. Not a total wreck is enough to get laid, and may even win you a decent relationship, but even you are aware that letting yourself go would be a bad idea.

    Not all men have to have a very stark size differential to consider a woman feminine, and some men still associate a reasonable degree of plumpness with resourcefulness and fertility and a good upbringing. Still, it doesn’t change the general rule that fitness is prettier than unfitness. If you don’t have an obviously feminine size differential relative to the men around, you do have to make up for that by looking physically more capable than average to maintain sufficient mass appeal.

    “Why is it so hard for people to understand that obesity can be the result of genetics? Some people cannot lose weight easily.”

    That’s actually not true except in very rare cases. Some people’s appetite mechanisms are busted from the womb, but these people have other obvious problems like severe disabilities and mental impairment.

    The truth is that some people can handle the poison most westerners eat better than others. It’s the luck of the draw if someone is able to consistently maintain a low calorie diet on the fake food too many folks are eating. Most people can’t which is why most westerners are fatter than they should be.

    Before you call me judgmental, I found this out the hard way, changed my eating habits, and am losing weight without counting calories.

    “Alot of you men in this forum I bet are way below average so you can all go to hell with that “No Fat Chicks” slogan. Thats why many of you are jealous of black men’s masculinity, dark skin, and athleticism!!”

    Though I don’t think “no fat chicks” is plausible in the west unless a guy is very butched, rich, or okay with long dry spells, it is a very good idea for them to be honest about their opinions and not settle unless the chick is relatively fit and has an awesome personality. Even then he should teach her how to eat properly so that she can at least undo most of the damage.

    Most fat people don’t have to be fat. They don’t have to work very hard to lose weight. It’s a simple matter of getting back to your dietary roots and not eating fake food.

    Try it. If it wasn’t food 300 years ago, it’s not food now. Learn to cook the old fashioned way. You’ll see.

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  172. on May 14, 2011 at 5:51 am Decker

    “Selena Castro’s hot though.”

    I just googled her. No. If she got rid of her belly fat, she’d be pretty hot. But that saggy beer gut knocks her down from an easy 8 to a scant 5 at best.

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  173. on May 14, 2011 at 3:55 pm Obstinance Works

    That has to be a psychological disorder.

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  174. on May 14, 2011 at 3:57 pm Obstinance Works

    And Nicole is commenting on this thread. Too funny.

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  175. on May 14, 2011 at 3:59 pm Obstinance Works

    http://ansblog.com/2010/02/world-most-beautiful-woman-ever/

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  176. on May 14, 2011 at 6:08 pm Graduate

    The ultimate alpha fucks exactly what he wants. Think about it: if you go after slim girls because you don’t want to be singled out as a “weirdo”, even though you prefer fat girls, is that alpha behaviour? NO

    An alpha fucks fat girls if that’s what he likes

    An alpha fucks older women if that’s what he likes

    An alpha fucks girls with hairy armpits, dreadlocks, short girls, girls with short hair, very tall girls, … IF that’s what he likes

    It’s only beta when you find yourself SETTLING for a fat/old/short etc girl who you DON’T actually like.

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  177. on May 15, 2011 at 1:05 am Ania

    So I’m from Poland, moved to the United States (worse: the Midwest), got married, had a baby, blah blah blah blah blah. I’m going to Poland at the end of the month and am dieting like mad. I’m pretty sure they don’t let women with BMI’s over 23 enter the country.

    [Editor: jpeg.

    it’s for building strong international relations.]

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  178. on May 15, 2011 at 3:39 am Nicole

    Obstinance, don’t you want there to be fewer fat women?

    …or are you panicked that if word gets out that all one really has to do to get down to or maintain a healthy weight is not eat fake food, you’ll lose some of what you scaffold your ego with?

    Calorie counters and grain addicts often experience that inner squick whenever they see someone losing weight easily and permanently, when they have to work really hard at it and take a lot of pride in that.

    Sorry for stepping on your false sense of superioritaah. It is very easy for a woman to not get fat if she just eats real food on a human rather than bovine food pyramid.

    To me, it’s kind of sad that some people base their perception of their physical fitness on their ability to eat like cows and still look like humans. It is an accomplishment, but then so is successfully driving a nail through one’s scrotum.

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  179. on May 15, 2011 at 4:20 am Willy Wonka

    “So are sheep fuckers and necrophiliacs.”

    I lol’ed.

    “This is why it’s so important to live in a city with a high walkability index. Your body and your love life will thank you. Plus, it’s a lot easier to meet girls on the sidewalk when you’re walking instead of craning your neck outside a car window.”

    This is why I want to get out of the city I live in and move somewhere where there is a lot more foot traffic. I talked to Krauser about this a lot.

    Hate the non-existent foot traffic of my city. Oh, and the fact that everything in my city revolves around food.

    At least the large college campuses down here force chicks to walk a lot – that probably keeps the 18-22 year old girls in decent shape…. just wait until they get an office job and then they go from bed to car to desk to happy hour to car to plop down in front of the tv to watch Glee to bed… with minimal walking involved in their daily lives at all… and we wonder why Americans are fat?

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  180. on May 15, 2011 at 5:09 am Linkage is Good for You: Not a Plug Edition

    […] Never Say First in a Relationship“, “May 21st is National Pimp Walk Day“, “Why European Girls Stay Thin“, “What Betas Can Learn from […]

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  181. on May 15, 2011 at 5:15 pm gig

    People forget about rigid labor laws. A few years ago I was still in love with Anglo-Saxon economics, but now I see how destructive they are to social life.

    Rigid labor laws, which make very expensive to fire, create a much more favorable environment to healthy (=long) lunches and to less working hours leading to more time to leisure and exercise

    rigid labour laws do not raise unemployment, high taxes do and taxes rise with the share of low-IQ/unproductive citizens in the country. And those people create the no-go areas which lead the middle class to flee the cities and become slaves of long distance commuting, another highly destructive feature of Anglo-Saxon economics

    Anyway, for me it is obvious that French-style labor laws lead to more beautiful chicks in the population.

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  182. on May 15, 2011 at 11:43 pm Guestopher

    @gig

    I don’t understand the concept of a low-IQ unproductive citizen when there literally are not enough jobs to go around in our current system. Oh there’s work (building/maintaining public infrastructure, teaching, research etc.), but not enough paying jobs for that work. Be aware that the low-IQ unproductive citizens are lining up around the corner for the opportunity to get paid to serve you crappy, fattening fast food and inferior 3rd world products.

    What really raises unemployment (and eliminates the need for people to do physical labor) is the automation of jobs. The robot rebellion is coming in an unexpected form – they are making us fatter, lazier and screwing with a foundation of our economic system.

    It’s time that we started thinking about a way to ensure that everyone has access to clean water, nutritious food, shelter, basic medical care and a basic education regardless of whether or not they (or their parents) can find employment. Machines and technological advances could help us do these things… or they could destroy us, whichever.

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  183. on May 16, 2011 at 3:45 am Anonymous

    What’s with Sarkozy’s rival, IMF president, being accused of trying to rape a 32 yr old black woman in his $3k per night hotel room in New York City?

    Was this a set up? If it was, wouldn’t he be loudly announcing that it was? In situations like this the man has to immediately get out in front of the character assassination.

    If this is true, why would a billionaire in Manhattan need to accost a 32 yr old black chambermaid?

    Don’t the IMF leaders control the world and its money supply?

    Isn’t this guy part of the Illuminati that gave us feminism?

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  184. on May 16, 2011 at 5:32 am Anonymous

    NY Times on Strauss-Kahn:

    Despite the rumors, one of the few journalists to point to them when Mr. Strauss-Kahn was appointed to the fund was Jean Quatremer, the Brussels correspondent for Libération. He wrote on his blog that Mr. Strauss-Kahn’s “only real problem” was his “rapport” with women. “Too insistent, he often comes close to harassment,” he wrote. “A weakness known by the media, but which nobody mentions. (We are in France.) The I.M.F., however, is an international institution with Anglo-Saxon morals. A misplaced gesture, a too specific allusion, and it will be a media scramble.”

    Mr. Strauss-Kahn behaved aggressively toward a young female journalist and novelist, Tristane Banon, in 2002, according to the newspaper Le Parisien and other Web sites, and corroborated by Ms. Banon herself in a 2007 television interview on Paris Première, a cable channel. At the time, she said that a French politician — whom she later said was Mr. Strauss-Kahn — had tried to rape her in an empty apartment in Paris after she had contacted him for a book she was writing.

    “He wanted to grab my hand while answering my questions, and then my arm. We ended up fighting, since I said clearly, ‘No, no.’ We fought on the floor, I kicked him, he undid my bra, he tried to remove my jeans,” she said.

    Afterward, she said that she had contacted a well-known lawyer who already had “a pile of files on Mr. Strauss-Kahn,” but that she never filed a complaint. “I didn’t dare; I didn’t wish to be the girl who had a problem with a politician for the rest of my life,” she said.

    Her mother, Anne Mansouret, a Socialist, later confronted Mr. Strauss-Kahn and asked why he had attacked her daughter, she told Rue 89, an online newspaper. According to her, he responded: “I don’t know what happened, I went crazy.”

    At the Institut d’Études Politiques de Paris, known as Sciences Po, where he was an economics professor, “he had a real power of attraction,” said a former student in an interview. “There were always hordes of female students waiting to talk to him at the end of his classes,” she said, speaking on the condition of anonymity.

    Well before Mr. Strauss-Kahn’s arrest there had been reports that Mr. Sarkozy was gathering information to discredit Mr. Strauss-Kahn should he run for president. In a famous incident, reported by the news magazine Le Point, Mr. Strauss-Kahn confronted Mr. Sarkozy in the men’s room at the Group of 20 summit meeting in Pittsburgh in September 2009, saying: “I’ve had more than enough of this continued gossip about my private life and about supposed dossiers and photos that could come out against me. I know that this is coming from the Élysée. Tell your guys to stop or I’ll go to the courts.”

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  185. on May 16, 2011 at 8:30 am King A

    Jerry,

    Thanks for your anecdote. It’s a shame your war story went unremarked upon, and there should be a better forum for discussion of frank, well-described, and well-analyzed encounters like yours.

    Consider: you crammed your story into a comment section on fattie fuckers. Thoughtful testimony on this site is destined to be lost under mountains of bluster and bullshit from fawning Roissy fanboys and otherwise emotionally disturbed trolls seeking an outlet for anonymous sexual expression.

    The Ten you describe is like a birdwatcher seeing a California Condor in the wild. We appreciate that your story didn’t cut right to the fake I-Am-Alpha porn scene but rather admitted the probability of ultimate failure, and we can thereby learn from your experience. I hope you figure out a way to update us somewhere in the upcoming posts on illegal immigration and fetal testosterone.

    Everything in Ten’s world outside of your own direct influence is programmed to make her flake. She almost can’t not flake. You have a tremendous challenge ahead of you, although you’re not without advantages. At her age she has little experience with men (as distinct from boys) for two reasons: 1) she is surrounded by her age-bracket and is regularly subjected to awkward immaturity standing in awe of her natural gifts; 2) she is an A+, intimidating most mortals from doing exactly what you just did, leaving her to choose from among similarly endowed male counterparts (the “better looking men … pursuing her”) to whom she is physically and socially attracted but do little for her mystery-seeking instinct.

    It’s good that you went for a direct and honest approach — describing the benefits of genetic combination! — rather than nothing. That may have been your only psychological option at the time. But, while it’s true that she is drawn by force of instinct to that primal dynamic, stating it bluntly is off-putting and leaves too much room for bitchy third-party criticism. Better to leave her with an impression that is not so easily, technically picked apart by her (comparatively) ugly friends or herself.

    She is not physically predisposed to wanting your genes for your IQ. She is attracted to your articulate forwardness and then your unavailability. The former can be enhanced by high intelligence but it’s only the icing on the cake. Don’t mistake which qualities you are bringing to her reproductive table — she’ll bring enough confusion in that regard for everyone. The artistry now resides in how to reassert your presence while appearing aloof. Let us know if you pull off the 10.0-difficulty maneuver. The first factor that has to go is the jelly-legs, but now that you have survived the psychological ambush of spontaneously encountering perfection, you will be better prepared.

    Forget the sex. It will help you get in the proper frame of mind, and it shouldn’t be a priority anyway. The wobbly leg on the Chateau table is this obsession with getting to the cum, as if indulging a fleeting bio-function should be the center of our life’s motivation. Do it for the glory, for the beaver pelt. Do it so that you can point her out to others and simply nod and say, “Uh huh.” That is what alpha means. The rutting is an ancillary factor, the private bonus to a public conquest.

    You’re a bigger man than most for seizing the opportunity. Here’s hoping you crush it. Those men who are envious of your opportunity (“you’re our competition!”) aren’t team players; solo-acts don’t survive long in war, and, make no mistake, this is war. Yes, we’d rather have the opportunity and the glory ourselves, but true men love to see one of their own taking down trophy prey. Show us how it’s done, son.

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  186. on May 16, 2011 at 6:18 pm burps

    The old lady was probably saying to herself “holy cow!”

    [Editor: Or “unholy cow!”]

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  187. on May 16, 2011 at 6:37 pm Rick Derris

    Wait – she was 425???

    Didn’t she perhaps think she had a problem when she hit 300???

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  188. on May 17, 2011 at 2:09 am Ania

    Heh @Editor – get back to me at the end of the month. It’s 50% terror over my entire family judging me, 50% my husband realizing omg, an entire nation of hot, slim(mer) chicks. My goal is getting below 23 bmi by said trip, below 21 by the time we move to Poland for a year in October. It’s going well. I’m 22 and only gained 10 lbs while pregnant, hence minimal child-bearing damage. Not sure how American women justify gaining 30+ lbs. while pregnant. My doctor was CONSTANTLY on my case.

    Anyway, it’s remarkably easy to gain weight in South Dakota. It’s not just fatty food; it’s lack of strangers’ judgment over weight gain. Fat people simply aren’t treated badly, while being slim offers a *marginal* advantage – not worth giving up the cheetos over. My sister-in-law gained 30 lbs. (on a 5’3” frame) within 2 months of moving there. It’s always shocking when one finally leaves the area and encounters normally sized people.

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  189. on May 17, 2011 at 9:24 am Nicole

    Ania hits on a good point. When most people around you are fat, fewer people are judging you. It’s kind of funny that this was actually one of the alarms that sent me the opposite message, but I’m weird.

    There are big girl clothes now in stores and sections of stores that aren’t specifically plus size, and they’re making them in younger styles because of the demand. When there are very few women who are what ought to be normal sized, having a store that only stocks clothes for size 10 and under is going to leave you broke.

    Also, if you’re running a restaurant and don’t use the new phony food, people think it’s unhealthy. So even if it’s not a matter of shortcuts, there’s real economic pressure to conform.

    Because almost everybody is in the system, almost everybody’s either fat and unhealthy or skinny and unhealthy but counting calories like a maniac.

    This is why I don’t think mere shaming of the fat will work in America or the high infrastructure west. It doesn’t get to the root of the problem, and you’re missing the thinner people who are eating the same crap, just less of it.

    If you’re going to shame folks, it makes more sense to shame people, regardless of their size, who eat crap. Picking on the fat is like picking on people who got cancer from living near a plastics plant or power lines. Sure, if they knew better, they could have prevented their illness, but an ignorance problem isn’t a moral problem. Also, if you’re going to hand out flyers about the dangers of living near a plastics plant, are you only distributing them to the people you can tell are on chemotherapy or to everybody in the area?

    When you get into a moral panic about it, you’re just feeding the vultures who make money off of the situation. Nobody runs to paleo or primal in a panic. They run to the surgeon or the pharmacy.

    I understand what I’m saying isn’t going to change the opinion of most people, but then I also understand that most people are stupid. If it was me, I wouldn’t want to look like one of the stupid droning masses talking trash and yet smelling like acrid vanillin or whatever chemical vomit they put in grape flavored crap and dying of crazy stuff none of my ancestors had to contend with.

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  190. on May 17, 2011 at 9:26 am dreamer

    ashley,
    your angry words shows something has struck a nerve. perhaps you should explore the source of those negative feelings. no one is denying that fat women can be pretty or can attract some men. actually, the post is about men who like larger women.

    it’s about health and improvement. roissy is doing a favor to women by shaming their unhealthy weight ranges.

    since you brought up race, do you think there’s any coincidence even michelle obama, who is black, is on an all out campaign against obesity in children? it’s simply not healthy and doesn’t bode well for our national direction.

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  191. on May 17, 2011 at 9:28 am dreamer

    nicole – i agree with your point, too. but you have to start somewhere. tackling obesity is a much more direct path than trying to influence everyone to eat more holistically. americans as a whole need to live more holistically but that’d require a cultural shift to something like the french lifestyle.

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  192. on May 17, 2011 at 10:41 am imnobody

    When I lived in the States, I lost weight. This was caused by sheer FEAR. When I saw the whales that walked in the street, I was terrified of ending up like them.

    By contrast, a female friend of mine who I knew from my country, ended up completely Americanized and eventually became a really obese woman.

    “One time in Spain, an old woman spotted [fat] Charlotte in public, stopped abruptly, and crossed herself. “Like I was Satan.”

    Never been prouder of being from Spain. My country rocks!

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  193. on May 17, 2011 at 1:14 pm Nicole

    Dreamer, trying to tackle obesity without talking about the content of the diet is like trying to put out a fire by spraying water in the opposite direction. It’s impossible to change city planning overnight, but the diet of Americans could change overnight if the media could be convinced to give more airtime to natural diet.

    The lifestyle change goes with the diet because when you have more energy, you feel compelled to do things that used to be hard work.

    An example, in the very same club on different nights, the difference between energy levels of people who eat natural most of the time and people who don’t was clear to me. On a normal night, they play songs that have a kind of slow break every three to five minutes. On minimalist house nights with mostly first generation Russians, there’s maybe a slow break every twenty minutes to half an hour. If they were any closer, people would get annoyed. Same town, same arrangement of space, different fuel.

    One could say that it’s because Russians naturally have a higher endurance than Mizrahi people, but older Mizrahi people and Africans dance with a similar intensity. It’s their sugar eating kids who are having trouble staying on the floor.

    If my city weren’t walkable, I’d join a gym or do the morning aerobics program or mall walk. If one has the juice, they find what to do. If they don’t, it wouldn’t matter if everything they needed was less than 5 kilometers away with a cop on every corner.

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  194. on May 17, 2011 at 8:11 pm eddie

    Some ob-gyns in South Florida turn away overweight women:

    http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2011-05-16/health/fl-hk-no-obesity-doc-20110516_1_ob-gyn-gyn-obese-people

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  195. on May 18, 2011 at 2:28 pm Nunya

    Obeast: n. a fatty.

    Obestiality: n. fatty-fucking.

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  196. on May 18, 2011 at 5:14 pm Lavazza

    beta plus: You are right Swedes are getting fatter. We are becoming a more car oriented culture and weight enhancing food is becoming more widespread.

    BMI >30 Men Women
    1980/81 6,6 % 8,8 %
    1988/89 7,3 % 9,1 %
    1996/97 10,0 % 11,9 %

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  197. on May 18, 2011 at 6:47 pm Anonymous

    Wow… This site is the most pathetic piece of shit I’ve ever seen. Do the losers on here and the producer(s) have such a poor and sad life that all they can do is say ‘I hate fat chicks’ ?

    [Editor: How about ‘I am repulsed by fat chicks. I find them as disgusting to look at as toe jam is to smell.’]

    But then that is the Americans for you… Mindless, biggoted and prejudice.

    [Behold liberal tolerance.]

    There is actually no reason whatsoever to hate fat people. It’s there choice.

    {The corollary to that is it’s also their choice to make themselves utterly unattractive to the majority of the opposite sex.]

    If they wanted to be thin, they would be.

    [That would take willpower.]

    It’s a personal choice and there’s always someone out there who will be attracted to a person, no matter what they’re size so shut the fuck up losers.

    [Observational analysis indicates very clearly that fat chicks will have a harder time than thin chicks meeting someone out there.]

    Maybe you do prefer thin women and that’s fine but stop saying that people who like big women are disgusting – They would say that what you like is!

    [Men who prefer fatties aren’t (necessarily) disgusting… they’re just a weird minority in their tastes.]

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  198. on May 19, 2011 at 4:59 am Nicole

    Editor, I think the problem some people have with the fat posts isn’t that what you’re saying’s not generally true. It’s that you seem a bit oversensitive about it…like you’re trying to prove something. I could be wrong, but this is usually the case when someone repeatedly states the obvious with the enthusiasm of novelty.

    Bonus, you actually go looking for these things around the internet. I actually do because it’s relevant to me, but I have no idea why a (presumably) skinny White guy would be searching for this stuff regularly.

    Maybe it would be helpful if you put it into context that others could identify with. It is common for betas to be pursued by fat women because fat is like the new rough hands. If a guy doesn’t show signs of being a higher class or value, then women who believe themselves to be on his level will flirt with him.

    For a guy who really doesn’t like fat women, this can cause him to feel rather annoyed or put upon.

    So it’s a good reason to learn game: to put one’s self out of the league of the fatties.

    I’m not saying these posts are totally useless. They have been helpful to me in that I’ve decided basically not to talk to men at all more than platonically until I’ve finished losing weight. (This has been very difficult, as since I decided to shut it down, I have dick pointing at me from all kinds of directions, which is weird.) Were I doomed, I suppose I’d have to figure out a livable solution, but since I’m not, I don’t want to be settled for or demeaned for being fat, when I have enough to deal with being older and legally married.

    I’m just saying that I can see why a new reader would assume that you’re just being an ass…which may suit you, but ultimately just blends in with the droning of a bazillion other asses on the internet. If you want to stand out, you should give more wordage to why this issue is relevant in the context of game.

    The reason why is that most of the statistically overweight are not 400 lbs. They’re a muffin top 150-175. Day to day, the fat chicks most guys have to deal with aren’t having serious mobility issues or inspiring old European ladies to cross themselves. They’re still small enough that it’s not a serious problem, but bigger than they should be or would be were they not eating crap and drinking too much.

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  199. on May 19, 2011 at 9:47 am Anonymous

    This topic is important because every woman who loses her looks causes another to get that much harder to get. Because it would possibly stop a dozen men including her husband from paying attention to her and start paying attention to the fitter woman, her getting unfit might cause a logarithmic increase in the fit woman’s bitch shield and entitlement complex.

    That is why it’s key to put a stop to the trend for American women to lose their looks.

    On topic and about China:

    http://en.radio86.com/chinese-experiences/blogs/fat-ladies-and-handsome-men

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  200. on May 19, 2011 at 10:23 am gig

    If they wanted to be thin, they would be.

    Yeah!!! Just follow your heart, ignore all the envious people around you, go after your dreams because everything is possible and you can do anything!!! Anything!!!

    Free your mind any prejudice and everything you wish will come true! Embrace all the loving people around you and someday the force of your dreams will cover the entire Earth and all the world will get together and everyone will embrace each other and we will live as brothers and sisters forever and ever!!!

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  201. on May 19, 2011 at 12:11 pm Nicole

    Anonymous, pedestalizing does far more damage in that regard than the existence of fat women.

    A woman being bigger than she should be might make her husband stray, but it damned sure doesn’t make him decide that because the other woman is prettier, she is an angel from heaven who can do no wrong and is worth more than wifey simply because she is younger and/or thinner.

    We might make you look the other way, but we don’t make you stupid.

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  202. on May 20, 2011 at 4:16 am Nice Young Ladies

    Well I’m busy running my own business and deep down, I know that’s my priority, because a fuck is just a fuck.

    I know I have to work on my game that’s why I’m here – but chasing hot girls is a lot of work.

    This blog has taught me the importance of never allowing higher value females to know such things, but if I’ve had a long day at work, and a chubby girl wants to come over and have me do all kinds of nasty things the hotter girls wouldn’t have, and leave quietly later, I’m happy with that.

    I really liked the article on Roosh’s site. Of course I don’t prefer chubbier girls, and maybe I’m lazy, but it’s good to keep the blade sharp and stay in practice. I’ll take a 5 or 6 home for a pump’n dump if my beta friends are too pussy to go through with it.

    I DJ at some of the top clubs in my city and fat girls don’t go there, there might be 1, but surrounded by 18-21yo “hard bodies” in their most lethal mini skirt and heel combos, it’s not somewhere they want to be.

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  203. on May 20, 2011 at 12:50 pm Guestopher

    Nicole,

    I commend your efforts and support you becoming the true hottie that can get the right type of partner.

    On a related note… how F*-ed up is the hetero sexual marketplace when a woman who is overweight, older and married is still having to swat dicks out of her face? Maybe that sexbot revolution can’t come quickly enough

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  204. on May 28, 2011 at 7:24 am j4cksincl4ir

    I lived in France for four years and I can confirm that there is strong carrot and stick social pressure for young women to stay as nature designed them to be. There is of course a mostly vegetarian diet and a pedestrian lifestyle to back it up.

    In the UK, chubby women have a “take it or leave it mentality” like slum landlords in seller markets. In contrast, France is a buyer’s market and the women there really do make an effort.

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