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Arnold, Steroids And Mud Sharks

May 19, 2011 by CH

It’s an open secret that Arnold used steroids throughout his bodybuilding career, and probably uses them today (either as part of an anti-aging program, or to buff up for a film, like he did for T3.) If he was on a cycle when he banged that ugly housemaid of his, that would explain a lot.

I’ve talked with the really hyooge roided up guys in the gym about going on cycle, and they’ve told me that on steroids they’re indiscriminately horny all day long. “I’d stick my dick in a dog’s anus if pussy wasn’t around,” is how one dude colorfully put it.

Arnold is a high status alpha male. Why he would bang, and impregnate!, an ugly broad seemingly makes no sense. But a little analysis helps the picture become clearer. As I explained in a previous post addressing this specific subject, most alpha males are cheating with hot, younger mistresses. We remember the ones, like Hugh Grant, who hook up with fuglies because they are the exceptions to the common rule. But there are other reasons why a guy like Arnold might cheat with a woman so far below him in sexual market value it may as well be an interspecies mating.

One, convenience. A busy man might just grab the nearest pussy available. Alpha males can be lazy about chasing women for sex, particularly if they have a de facto harem already at their disposal to clean the princely penis. Two, and in my opinion the more parsimonious explanation — Arnold was roided up to the gills when his boner pointed in the direction of Mamacita Starch Bomb.

Testosterone is the infidelity and ambition hormone, but it comes with a dark side: too much can cloud a man’s perception and good judgement. A guy on roids might be so climb-the-walls horny that a dumpy, unattractive maid bending over to scrub the floors could look irresistible in the moment. This would also explain the pregnancy; a very horny man needs to get off NOW, and condoms just don’t enter the equation in the heat of passionate release.

Arnold also has a thing for Latinas (and asses and carrots), so maybe his gross maid represented the closest facsimile to his true desire that he could find within his WASPy, stiff-hipped social milieu.

This could help to answer the question why all men don’t continually evolve to have higher and higher testosterone levels. Perhaps because of its ability to impair judgement, testosterone could be subject to runaway selection, where the advantage of being incredibly motivated to fight and fuck everything in sight is nullified by the disadvantage of losing fights and banging low quality women.

And let’s face it, it’s not for nothing that the most advanced civilizations are filled with men who have more discriminating tastes in women.

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  1. on May 19, 2011 at 4:29 pm Dan

    “Perhaps because of its ability to impair judgement, testosterone could be subject to runaway selection, where the advantage of being incredibly motivated to fight and fuck everything in sight is nullified by the disadvantage of losing fights and banging low quality women.”

    Well, that or at extremely high levels it would cause severe if not lethal developmental defects (I say this as a man currently enjoying the fuck out of his first cycle of trenbolone acetate — the strongest injectable steroid in existence — after many a fine test-dominated cycle).

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  2. on May 19, 2011 at 4:37 pm samseau

    Arnold has probably fucked thousands of women in his day. he was unlucky and knocked up the wrong broad. can you imagine how happy she must be to have such an alpha spawn?

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  3. on May 19, 2011 at 4:38 pm Glengarry

    “Ahnuuuuuu-uuld! Verdammt.”

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  4. on May 19, 2011 at 4:40 pm askjoe

    It was amusing how Arnold has a “history of groping women” when the MSM clucked about this story but no MSM dared mention “put some ice on that” Kathrine Willey when discussing Clinton’s love of warpigs.

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  5. on May 19, 2011 at 4:43 pm anon

    it’s not for nothing that the most advanced civilizations are filled with men who have more discriminating tastes in women.

    Testosterone doesn’t exactly equal taste now does it *mamacita starch bombs, indeed*

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  6. on May 19, 2011 at 5:06 pm OhioStater

    I just think there’s a portion of the reptilian brain that is not aware of paternity testing.

    A beta never gets in touch with his inner animal, he’s always logically thinking. The alpha is an animal, a powerful one.

    A Tom Brady can impregnate an average woman and he’s still Tom Brady.

    If Gisele gets pregnant by an average man, it ruins her looks and could ruin her life.

    That’s one reason why you spend more time protecting your daughters.

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  7. on May 19, 2011 at 5:08 pm Cyning

    This partly explains why proles are so high-T and ugly.

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  8. on May 19, 2011 at 5:10 pm Chris G

    Bear in mind the child was conceived over 10 years ago. Some women don’t age well. It’s not like she’s a pampered rich bitch.

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  9. on May 19, 2011 at 5:29 pm fafaf

    It’s not even an ‘open secret’;

    “steroids were helpful to me in maintaining muscle size while on a strict diet in preparation for a contest.”

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  10. on May 19, 2011 at 5:29 pm Firepower

    roycee

    And let’s face it, it’s not for nothing that the most advanced civilizations are filled with men who have more discriminating tastes in women.

    I’ll ponder that, after I’m reveling in the most advanced civilizations (Liberals) tearing out their guts trying to decide which to betray next – The Austrian RINO or his nasal wife.

    Hey: it is SHE who is supposed to fuck indiscriminate meat.
    SHE’s the Kennedy

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  11. on May 19, 2011 at 5:38 pm The Man Who Was . . .

    Even in her younger days, Arnold’s mistress was no great shakes:
    http://www.tmz.com/2011/05/18/arnold-schwarzenegger-mildred-patty-baena-dancing-photo-1994-maria-shriver-love-child-baby-maria-shriver-mistress/

    [Editor: Maria probably hired a bunch of ugly maids knowing that Arnold’s wandering eye wouldn’t hesitate to lock in on some hot Russian au pair.
    Too bad for her blueblood self she miscalculated the testicular urge that compels a lot of men to seek outlets in a variety of pussy, even underclass pussy.]

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  12. on May 19, 2011 at 5:46 pm G.L. Piggy

    Don’t forget another explanation: these alpha’s wives are snobbish cunts who would never think that their men would have sex with lowly maids – especially if they have knee caps similar to Mildred’s.

    Their bitch-don’t-fuck-with-my-man shield goes on full throttle when their husband is in the company of a hot woman; what’s a horny alpha to do? Well, having sex with a homely maid is one answer.

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  13. on May 19, 2011 at 5:47 pm ve

    “Testosterone is the infidelity . . . hormone, but it comes with a dark side . . . ”

    This cracked me up.

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  14. on May 19, 2011 at 5:54 pm KK

    The reason testosteron is capped, is simply because it has high physiological cost to trade off against the benefits.

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  15. on May 19, 2011 at 6:03 pm Firepower

    [Editor: Maria probably hired a bunch of ugly maids knowing that Arnold’s wandering eye wouldn’t…]

    We do not know yet
    how many other haus maids he fertilized.

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  16. on May 19, 2011 at 6:08 pm G.L. Piggy

    damn, just saw that roissy said basically the same thing in the edited comment above mine.

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  17. on May 19, 2011 at 6:16 pm chi-town

    “Maria probably hired a bunch of ugly maids knowing that Arnold’s wandering eye wouldn’t hesitate to lock in on some hot Russian au pair.”

    No doubt. I have seen this first hand when I met with some x-co-workers and she displayed a picture of the au pair. It became a topic of conversation. The hotter the au pair, the more oxygen it consumes.

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  18. on May 19, 2011 at 6:24 pm SF

    http://www.steroid-abuse.org/side-effects-men.htm

    I’ve always read that excessive steroid use causes impotence and reduced sperm counts.

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  19. on May 19, 2011 at 6:29 pm blert

    Actually, steroids can destroy the liver faster than most anything.

    At which time you die — usually a lingering death.

    I knew a fellow with outstanding athletic stats — an early generation user of ‘roids.

    He spent the last twelve years of his life slowly dying.

    ( Even with a liver transplant ! )

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  20. on May 19, 2011 at 6:32 pm Firepower

    Hey
    all those Leftwing Liberal Democrat Party types like to talk up feminism and give lip-service to swimbos..

    like Bill Clinton
    Arnie
    Eliot Spitzer

    while getting serviced by jolie filles.

    Plus, didnt that blind NJ creep play grabass with some white sistas too?

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  21. on May 19, 2011 at 6:37 pm Ovid

    As a skinny teenager my skinny cousin got me in touch with a meathead at some gym who supplied us with steroids. I remember being curious at how tiny the tablets were. I took one single tablet before my mom found the bottle and through it away.

    Well, that one tablet gave me a cataract in my left eye and I can’t get laser surgery now.

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  22. on May 19, 2011 at 6:45 pm Dan

    @blert wrong. only oral steroids are hepatotoxic, because they are methylated or halogenated to prevent conversion into cholesterol by the liver (this is why there’s no oral testosterone), a side effect of which is hepatotoxicity. injectable steroids don’t pass through the liver and are fine.

    @SF wrong. low sperm count is only caused by those steroids which suppress the HPTA and is reversed once you go off cycle. it’s separate from impotence, which only occurs with a small number of powerful steroids (most notably, nandrolone (deca) and trenbolone) and is easily counteracted by including test in any deca or tren cycle. idiots self-prescribing powerful medication are not a reflection on that medication.

    @ovid the fuck are you talking about? steroids don’t have a fucking thing to do with cataracts.

    good thing none of you are here right now or my tren and halotestin-induced rage would lead me to rip all your arms off and beat you to death with them.

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  23. on May 19, 2011 at 6:47 pm Ovid

    Dan,

    “ovid the fuck are you talking about? steroids don’t have a fucking thing to do with cataracts.”

    I’ve been told they do. By optometrists.

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  24. on May 19, 2011 at 7:00 pm castricv

    Roiss —

    I’m glad you brought this topic up. It is so obvious from so many levels why Arnold would do this with the person he did it with that I simply cannot believe Maria didn’t know about it and I firmly believe they agreed to wait until his governorship was over to split.

    1) Roids : Quick Backstory – I’m 31 now and happily married. However in most of high school and college I roided up pretty hard at times. So much so that now I have pretty high BP and a chest that no matter how muscular and fit I am “perks out” a bit. Nothing gross like b cups or anything, but enough for me to notice. However, no one in their right mind has ever told me anything about them and I can still bench 405 on a bad day.

    With that in mind, I can tell you in no uncertain terms that the level of horny almost rises to the level of committal- worthy. I fucked the coin return on a coke machine after a workout one time. Skanks that you wouldn’t even sniff at are good for a bj all of a sudden. You don’t really get to a point where you would rape someone (that is a myth), rather ANYTHING becomes fuckable. Pillows, a sofa, a plump Mexican maid, etc. Maria was married to him since 1986, or better known as Predator, T2, and Red Sonya awesome time. He wasn’t just jacked, he was probably constantly raging. If she wasn’t fucked 3 times a day for a decade then I’m not sure what the hell was going on. It doesn’t surprise me that during the 90s (I think the boy was born in 97 if I read correctly) he was pumping even more to counter being almost 50 and hence being surrounded by women in his house would be a given for at least a harassment claim or two.

    2) She Latin/Mexican and he’s quasi Nordic/German Europan. Not only do fairer Euros love Mediterraneans, they quite often marry them. My uncle is German and I am half Scottish, half Spanish. The reason I spell this out is because my Aunt is a round Spanish woman who I cannot fathom being attractive to anyone, yet my German uncle by marriage simply cannot get enough of her. I know this is only one example, but I see this a lot. Sometimes we as men, no matter how alpha or refined we may be, really want a change of pace or one particular fetish fuck once in a blue moon. For me it is cutoff jeaned trailer park blondes. For Arnold it is chubby Mexican maids. To each his own…

    3)His movies – If you actually go to a lot of his movies, he is often romantically or soon to be romantically linked with a Latin American woman. By his own words he loves them and nice round asses (awesome).

    Maria had to know this and because she is so steeped in political power, she kept a smile on for years. I for one could care less about who the Terminator boffs.

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  25. on May 19, 2011 at 7:00 pm Tinderbox

    “Language and writing were also made available, the poetry of Khitai, the philosophy of Sung; and he also came to know the pleasures of women, when he was bred to the finest stock.”

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  26. on May 19, 2011 at 7:01 pm Dr Robert

    Perhaps I can help here. I am an opthamologist. Steroids HAVE been shown to cause damage to the eye. Cataracts is one common symptom. I cant understand why you would be so stupid as to think you know something about medicine,just because you pop pills you bought from some muscled-out lowlife piece of shit at your gym. You are a moron. I’ll probably be seeing you(no pun there) ina few years for treatment. I bet you’ll be whimpering like a bitch then. I charge extra to dumb muscle-heads like yourself.

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  27. on May 19, 2011 at 7:02 pm wuzrobbd

    @ Ovid- your optometrists lied to you. For cryin’ out loud, do some critical thinking.

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  28. on May 19, 2011 at 7:04 pm Dan

    @ovid 1) no you weren’t 2) talk to an endocrinologist or biochemist or anyone who understands hormones. or even an ophthalmologist, which, unlike an optometrist, is actually a medical doctor.

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  29. on May 19, 2011 at 7:09 pm Dan

    @Dr. Robert 1) if you’re really an opthalmologist that’s like 1.5 steps above dentistry 2) evidently you failed your classes on the endocrine system in medical school 3) there is a correlation between *inhaled* corticosteroids and cataracts, not injected or ingested anabolic steroids. 4) i’m an organic chemist and i assure you my source is not anyone at the gym.

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  30. on May 19, 2011 at 7:14 pm Dan

    @Dr. Robert oh one more thing you fucking tard. corticosteroids suppress the inflammatory cycle and denature proteins. that’s why they are linked to things like cataracts, provided (as with corticosteroid inhalants) they are present in the right location. if you really are an m.d., and i seriously doubt it, you should have your license revoked before you harm anyone else.

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  31. on May 19, 2011 at 7:22 pm Ovid

    “Dr.” Bobby,

    Steroids HAVE been shown to cause damage to the eye.

    Yes I know. That’s more or less what I said.

    Cataracts is one common symptom.

    Bad grammar “Dr.”

    I cant understand why you would be so stupid as to think you know something about medicine,just because you pop pills you bought from some muscled-out lowlife piece of shit at your gym.

    I never said I know anything about medicine. And I popped ONE pill 2 decades ago, “Dr.”

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  32. on May 19, 2011 at 7:23 pm Anonymous

    Many steroids, like tren and winny, will kill your libido. Completely. You will have ZERO sexual interest.

    Personally, I used 1g test/weekly and didn’t get increased libido. Maybe a little, but not much.

    A friend of mine, however, was humping walls with 400mg test enan/weekly.

    Same with prohormones. Lots of them will kill your libido – on the net boards thats one of the most complained about sides. OTOH, there are PHs which make many guys hornier than a jackrabbit.

    So it’s hard to generalize about steroids and pickup, man. Sorry.

    It’s also hard to generalize about steroids and alpha too. I know a lot of juiced-up meatheads who scowl and look alpha, but man, they ain’t alpha.

    Schwarznegger is of course alpha, but lots of meatheads aren’t alpha beneath the surface.

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  33. on May 19, 2011 at 7:24 pm Ryu

    Boy, alot of misunderstanding on steroid use.

    I assure you, that every human being who has ever lived, past, present or future, uses steroids. Futher, the biggest users of steroids are women.

    A “steroid” is consists of 3 cyclohexanes with one cycloheptane. It included cortisol, cholesterol, testotersone, estrogen, the birth control pill, progesterone. If you don’t have steroids in your body, then you are dead.

    Do you know that the side effects of anabolic steroids, are exactly the same “side effects” of being male vs female? I see alot of you at The Spearhead and IMF. Please stop using shaming language and arguing like a bunch of feminists. It doesn’t become you.

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  34. on May 19, 2011 at 7:27 pm Ovid

    Dan,

    Any advice on steroid use? I’ve been trying to gain about 10-15 LBs of lean muscle while simultaneously trying to get a “six-pack” of abs. Little luck so far. My upper abs are OK, but my lowers are pathetic. I’m told that bulking-up while staying lean is impossible. But I’m stubborn.

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  35. on May 19, 2011 at 7:37 pm Dan

    @Ryu i think the point was to talk about the effects of anabolic/androgenic steroids. hopefully you wouldn’t recommend aldosterone to someone looking to gain muscle. and while the male vs. female point is broadly true, i hope you wouldn’t argue that users of trenbolone or cheque drops are merely experiencing secondary sex characteristics

    @ovid first of all, steroids are not magic and if you want to benefit from them you’re going to have to do a lot of hard work. secondly, you should not aim to build muscle and shed fat simultaneously. you bulk and then cut in a zig-zag fashion. if you’ve never used AAS before i’d suggest starting out with a basic long-estered testosterone (test enanthate and test cypionate are the most common), which you could supplement with a relatively mild injectable like equipoise (aka boldenone). stay at or under 500 mg of test and 900 mg total per week. long esters take a week or two to kick in so you could jump start with a fast-acting oral like dianabol at 30mg/day, but i’d recommend just being patient and waiting for your injectables to kick in (trust me, you’ll feel it when they do).

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  36. on May 19, 2011 at 7:37 pm Dat_Truth_Hurts

    Truth

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  37. on May 19, 2011 at 7:38 pm Gorbachev

    Steroids are a bad idea if it get you knocking up megalomonsters.

    In addition to other reasons.

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  38. on May 19, 2011 at 7:38 pm Dat_Truth_Hurts

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  39. on May 19, 2011 at 7:38 pm Dan

    @ovid also, make your first cycle 12-13 weeks and use PCT to come off it safely (google post-cycle therapy and you’ll find effective protocols for ending your cycle).

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  40. on May 19, 2011 at 7:41 pm Dan

    @gorbachev (and also @roissy) everything that’s good is a bad idea if you have no self-control. sure they make you horny enough to fuck a lamppost but you can still choose not to. arnold’s mistake was getting married in the first place instead of having the 30-year trolley of grade A brazilian ass he obviously wanted.

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  41. on May 19, 2011 at 7:42 pm Dat_Truth_Hurts

    Fuck man how you get youtube videos to embed here?

    Great documentary called “Bigger, Stronger, Faster” a much watch that dispels lots of myths but also shows the narcissistic side.

    [Editor: I saw it. It was pretty good.]

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  42. on May 19, 2011 at 7:45 pm Dat_Truth_Hurts

    And to note I’m on the juice. Testosterone pellets inserted for TRT (Testosterone Replacement Therapy). Completely legal, my insurance pays 70%.

    My T2 went from 320~ to over 1200 as of last blood test. E2 holding steady. I feel like a fucking freight train and I’m probably not even as amped up as some guys on stronger shit.

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  43. on May 19, 2011 at 7:55 pm ATC

    Chateau said:
    “Two, and in my opinion the more parsimonious explanation — Arnold was roided up to the gills when his boner pointed in the direction of Mamacita Starch Bomb.”

    My theory is that she begged him to impregnate her. Anyone who dates Hispanic women knows that they are completely cool with getting preggo, and consider whites’ studious use of birth control to be ridiculously anal, if not self-genocidal.

    She was getting older and wanted a baby with Arnold’s genes. She told him he was doing her a favor. Maybe she even told him that if he didn’t do it, she’d quit.

    It is common – while you’re doing it, they’ll say “I want to have a baby, just give me a baby and I’ll take care of him. I won’t even ask you for child support.” (“Child support” are the only two words they pronounce without an accent.)

    What’s alphas’ Achilles heel? They have no ability to distinguish between a reward and a poisoned apple.

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  44. on May 19, 2011 at 7:57 pm The Man Who Was . . .

    I’m often skeptical when Roissy says that this or that male celebrity has to be getting some on the side with someone cuter than his current wife/girlfriend etc. Not that it isn’t likely to be true in many cases, but also in many cases not. However, here, I think it almost certain to Arnold has cheated on Maria with a good number of really cute girls, besides hitting it with a few uglies. My favourite Arnold behaving badly story was when he was doing a movie and we allegedly caught by someone (not his wife) performing cunnilingus on a girl in his trailer. He is said to have looked up and, without missing a beat, said, “Eating is not cheating.”

    [Editor: haha! Gotta love the guy, even if he is a manipulative prick. (see: his psychological destruction of lou ferrigno pre-competition in ‘pumping iron’)]

    (Norman Mailer was another alpha male known for indiscriminately banging both hot and ugly chicks.)

    [If a guy has an indiscriminately high sex drive, *and* he’s alpha, he’ll want to fuck everything that moves, and be able to do so. There also might be something to the folklore that a man who has banged hundreds or even thousands of hot chicks his whole life might find the occasional fug a strangely sexy alternative.]

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  45. on May 19, 2011 at 7:57 pm Dat_Truth_Hurts

    Lemme try this one.

    http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=-2754168929523377644&hl=en&fs=true

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  46. on May 19, 2011 at 8:04 pm Ovid

    Thanks Dan. Let’s stay in touch somehow. I’d like to pick your brain on this topic if you don’t mind.

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  47. on May 19, 2011 at 8:05 pm senseiern

    This is why women should not deny her man when he needs relief. Yes, Maria was pregnant at the time of his additional seed spreading, but unless his idea of sex involves punching a woman in the stomach, sex can be safe.

    One of the pieces of advice I give women is to suck their man dry every morning. A man who gets that is not going to stray. Not because he thinks himself lucky, but because he will not be led by his dick. Instead his dick will shy away since it is already exhausted.

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  48. on May 19, 2011 at 8:07 pm Dan

    Yeah no problem w/r/t advice. I can’t reveal sources unless I know you personally, however.

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  49. on May 19, 2011 at 8:12 pm Ryu

    Dan (Daniel-san),

    I compete naturally in strongman competitions. I know all about “the dark side” and the differences between steroids. I know that enhanced athletes often more dedicated than naturals.

    I’m more concerned with people who have a knee jerk reaction to the word “steroids.” The differences between Tren, Anadrol and Dianabol are a little bit above the current discussion.

    You are a bodybuilder. Take a look at castricv’s comments above, number 20 oe so. The part where he talks about fucking a coke machine.

    Sound familiar? It’s from an old Steve Michalik article called Atlas Drugged. Scroll down:
    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes;read=5397

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  50. on May 19, 2011 at 8:15 pm d

    Europeans fuck/rape Latins and Blacks: No problem

    Africans suck Europeans: Roissy and spuremacists go apeshit

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  51. on May 19, 2011 at 8:18 pm David

    I haven’t seen any pictures of the woman around the time that she conceived. Given the horrible aging pattern of Hispanic women (their looks can plummet in just a few years), though, she could have very well been 3-4 points higher ten years ago.

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  52. on May 19, 2011 at 8:22 pm Dan

    @Ryu I’m a powerlifter. Calling me a bodybuilder is fightin’ words. Fair enough to everything else you say.

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  53. on May 19, 2011 at 8:54 pm Ryu

    Danny,

    Okay, okay. I know all about the rivalry. Alot of traitors in that camp these days, Tate and Kroc come to mind. Hope you didn’t pick up that Tren from the feed store.

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  54. on May 19, 2011 at 8:58 pm Dan

    Yeah fuck those guys. Kroc got ran off by Frankl; Tate’s too broke down for real training (make sure you add bands to *everything* though). Don’t worry, my gear is good stuff. And if you’re wondering why tren, we’re not all superheavies.

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  55. on May 19, 2011 at 9:01 pm Anonymous

    Them steroids in kickin’ up…

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  56. on May 19, 2011 at 9:14 pm dreamer

    arnold’s choice isn’t shocking.

    don’t agree with this view of the mistress as a hot (or even young) thing. it makes more sense that mistresses are typically far less attractive than the steady because she will do what the pretty and proper woman won’t. all the better if she’s heavy set, because she probably has lower confidence. i think when men cheat they’re looking for something different. the steady is the safety net.

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  57. on May 19, 2011 at 9:19 pm betondo fuchatuch

    Dunno.

    There’s other stuff at play here.

    The maid’s… been married for years before Arnold laid it down. And following the well established data that shows that married-to-beta chick’s peeking turtles seek alpha mega-male when ovulating, you’d have to assume (based on her looks) that Ahnuld went Max Roid Fever exactly within her narrow Basal window. Thin, but possible.

    Then there’s the scenario where Ahnuld was laying track consistently. The fuck-me-any-way-you-want-it compliance of unattractive women can be quite alluring (experience talking here – and exacerbated when you factor in a marriage to an uber-liberal, career-centered, bitch on wheels celebri-crone ) – to the point that the ug-looks factor diminishes with each successive fish taco. Pretty soon, pay dirt (for the maid). Probable.

    Then again…maybe she hit the wall doing 90 after the boy was born. Yank 80lbs off her, add make-up and dress her in one of those hot French maid outfits and you’ve beaten the wife’s 2 pair-looks with the maid’s full house Kings over 9s (maybe even aces). Then, roids or not, that’s a spicy meatball to hit consistently until she accidentally pulls the goalie on him. Yeah, maybe.

    Dunno.

    But I’m thinking scenario 3.

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  58. on May 19, 2011 at 9:20 pm Palawan Hotels

    Shallow men believe in luck. Strong men believe in cause and effect. -Ralph Waldo Emerson.

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  59. on May 19, 2011 at 9:20 pm Ryu

    I would like to be crystal clear for people who haven’t been around the block.

    Getting caught with steroids illegally is a big deal. If I remember right, it’s a class 4 drug, like coke or heroin. On the internet, there are police, FBI, DHS, DEA. No one worth listening to is going to tell you what to do without knowing you very well.

    Eventually, after a long time, you’ll see that steroids are good, but not a magical solution. They are a supplement. It’s not just one cycle then boom! You’re huge. Arnold has probably done hundreds of them. One cycle is not going to turn you into superman.

    It’s sort of like the middle position. Does taking steroids cause cancer and kill you, or do you look at them and you make gains? The truth is in between those two positions. It’s the same as everything else, be smart.

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  60. on May 19, 2011 at 9:23 pm Rum

    About 15 years ago, AS needed to have his AORTIC VALVE replaced. That is like, in your heart.
    His hired BS artists said it was “congenital.”
    Ho Ho Ho. Look up what massive steroid use does to tissue strength.
    Stretch marks on your skin = stretch marks in your heart.
    BTW, what could be cooler than being a teenaged guy with lots of purple stretch marks?
    I know; a teenaged guy with purple stretch-marks and a felony conviction for mindless behavior.
    I might be conservative about some things. I have seen too much, perhaps.

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  61. on May 19, 2011 at 9:23 pm Dan

    Well said @Ryu (class III I think, though. Test and Nandrolone are still available by prescription, for example (though the Rx has to be federally registered iirc)).

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  62. on May 19, 2011 at 9:24 pm Dan

    “Stretch marks on your skin = stretch marks in your heart.”

    That’s retarded.

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  63. on May 19, 2011 at 9:44 pm Born Again Alpha

    Ha ha. Convenience is important. So is enthusiasm! When I was married to a spoilt rich girl I used to visit a Chinese massage parlor near my office. Basically I would get 10 minutes of awesome massage followed by 10 minutes of rimming and ball sucking followed by some seriously talented and enthusiastic cock sucking and deep throat action ending with either swallowing or a facial depending on my mood. She was a 5. My boring ex wife was a 9.

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  64. on May 19, 2011 at 9:49 pm xsplat

    senseiern

    One of the pieces of advice I give women is to suck their man dry every morning. A man who gets that is not going to stray. Not because he thinks himself lucky, but because he will not be led by his dick. Instead his dick will shy away since it is already exhausted.

    That’s not true for some of us. Some of us have sex several times a day, sometimes with several women.

    But then again, some of us prefer to usually not ejaculate. Still, some guys on the tail end of the horny curve don’t really get sated.

    Ever.

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  65. on May 19, 2011 at 9:58 pm Rum

    Why, pray tell, do roids give young guys bright purple stretch-marks all over their arms and chests? Have you not seen this?
    Does this phenomenon not cause disturbing questions to form in whatever part of your body you use to think with?

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  66. on May 19, 2011 at 10:07 pm Dan

    @Rum why does puberty give young guys stretch marks? there are real health risks to steroid use, particularly the hepatotoxicity of oral steroids, consequences of estrogen and progestin feedback on male bodies, the possible kidney toxicity of trenbolone compounds, and the almost universal inadvisability of any steroid use by females. at the same time, most scientifically established complications of aas are reversible with cessation of use, and there is really and truly no demonstrated connection between steroids and, e.g., cancer or heart disease. (such connections are possible, though the studies that would be required to establish them are impossible for legal reasons, and to date, the “evidence” consists in mostly conjecture and hysteria. do you have any idea how many decades-long steroid users *don’t* experience significant setbacks to their health?)

    stretch marks don’t mean a fucking thing. “stretch marks on skin = stretch marks on heart” literally could not be any stupider, else it would be incomprehensible.

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  67. on May 19, 2011 at 10:13 pm Rum

    The women I know best have this fetish for me to pump in a load before its time to get dressed. Almost like that is what makes them most deeply happy. I am too nice a guy to refuse them that.
    Of course I have studied Tantra. Who has not? – among those of us who have been fascinated by Eastern Thought.
    A big hint that it was, as an historical event, mostly invented out of thin air is the wildly idealized figures carved in stone used to depict its enactment. It is all John Holmes meets Pamela Anderson and many of her friends for some trampoline sex…
    Tantra was mostly a joke, iows. Then and now.
    Trust your instincts. Well, at least my instincts instruct me to leave them with a well pounded love canal and fresh Rum dribbling down both her inner thighs.

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  68. on May 19, 2011 at 10:29 pm Mowgli

    Dan – I need some advice.

    I am a low T male. I had it tested and it was shamefully low. Embarrassing I know, but someone has to be on the low end of the curve. (In case you are wondering I had my free T tested and it was in the morning).

    Problem is that it is still within that stupid reference range they print on all the lab reports, so the doc won’t do a damn thing about it. Even if I have the T level of an 80 year old man, it’s still considered “normal.”

    Here’s the problem. . . I workout hard. I do crossfit 2x per week and I lift 3-4 times per week . . . and I mean the real deal: squats, deadlifts, bench press, ect . . . I eat clean (track every calorie on my phone) But I can’t gain muscle worth shit. I mean there’s a chick in my crossfit class who has bigger arms than me!

    So I am looking for some kind of supplement. I don’t want to get huge. I just don’t want to be the skinny pencil necked beta my genes have predestined for me.

    Do you have any recommendations? I am in school to be a Physician Assistant so all the endocrine stuff is fresh in my head . . . so lay it on me.

    PS: Don’t you think it’s a double standard that women can get all the female steroids they want? They give out estradiol like its fucking Tic-Tacs. I mean I am suffering from major depression and I have a low libido, but still male steroids are off limits! Fuck that.

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  69. on May 19, 2011 at 10:33 pm Mowgli

    BTW I forgot to mention… 30 years old, 165 lbs., 16% body fat (had it measured professional in a bod pod). BMR is 2600 kcal.

    I have posted on some bodybuilding forums online but pretty much everyone has a different opinion and a lot of them don’t seem to know what they are talking about.

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  70. on May 19, 2011 at 10:37 pm Anonymous

    It’s not a toomah!

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  71. on May 19, 2011 at 10:37 pm Firepower

    xsplat

    That’s not true for some of us. Some of us have sex several times a day

    Ejaculating into a used Kleenex while weeping bitter tears of disappointment does NOT count.

    Even, for you.

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  72. on May 19, 2011 at 10:59 pm whatever

    Dr Robert is no ophthalmologist. he can’t even spell the word correctly.

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  73. on May 19, 2011 at 11:11 pm omarion

    “Getting caught with steroids illegally is a big deal. If I remember right, it’s a class 4 drug, like coke or heroin. On the internet, there are police, FBI, DHS, DEA. No one worth listening to is going to tell you what to do without knowing you very well.”

    All anabolic steroids (with the exception of mibolerone, which is CII) are CIII. Cocaine is technically CII (it’s still used in oral and nasal surgery) and heroin is CI. CIV is mostly benzos, some barbiturates, etc.

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  74. on May 19, 2011 at 11:17 pm SF

    Well, I think a reasonable alternative theory was that whatever he was taking made him semi-impotent. He needed a lot of head to get going, which Maria wasn’t interested in, especially while pregnant. And putting on a rubber absolutely deflated his hard on.

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  75. on May 19, 2011 at 11:20 pm lazy guy

    Recent observations about Arnold’s history w/women remind me of Mick Jagger, another alpha male who fathered extramarital kids.
    Seems to me both men have many male fans who cheer the way these guys indulge in their sexual freedom (and to hell with the consequences).

    These two men even have a facial resemblance.
    I’m a bit surprised I’ve never read anyone else noticing this.
    It’s of no conseqence of course, but curious …

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  76. on May 19, 2011 at 11:33 pm Anonymous Dude

    Testosterone is the infidelity and ambition hormone, but it comes with a dark side: too much can cloud a man’s perception and good judgement. A guy on roids might be so climb-the-walls horny that a dumpy, unattractive maid bending over to scrub the floors could look irresistible in the moment. This would also explain the pregnancy; a very horny man needs to get off NOW, and condoms just don’t enter the equation in the heat of passionate release.

    That’s how I ended up hooking up with this chick that was below my SMV back when I got back from a deployment in the military. Accidentally knocked her up too :doh!: Normally I wouldn’t have gone for her, but no sex in months will fuck up your brain like that.

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  77. on May 20, 2011 at 12:12 am n/a

    Mowgli,

    No need to juice. You say you’re squatting, deadlifting, etc. The “real deal.” You’re “working hard.”

    You’re almost certainly not. I don’t say that to annoy you, I say it b/c it’s very likely true.

    So —

    How deep do you squat? what’s your squat workout, exactly? your deadlifts? gimmie numbers.–

    If you’re worried about “body fat” at 165 lbs you have other problems. You need more fats. You need more sleep. You need to train less and train harder.

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  78. on May 20, 2011 at 12:52 am k

    White man getting pussy from “minorities” …. move along … nothing to see here…..

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  79. on May 20, 2011 at 2:14 am Gil

    Since people who can get legally-prescribed anabolic steroids have to have something serious like cancer or AIDS must tell you something.

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  80. on May 20, 2011 at 2:21 am Bortimus

    I dunno about poor judgement preventing runaway selection for testosterone, my guess is it’s more of a Dawkins style evolutionary stable state where you need x% beta schlubs and x% alphas in order to have a functional society.

    Africans -> higher T -> chaotic corrupt societies, every man for himself.

    Asians -> lower T -> Orwellian communist societies, every man’s internal organs for every other man.

    Europeans -> midrange T -> Mechanical clocks, sailing ships, musketry, and world conquest.

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  81. on May 20, 2011 at 3:00 am Instapundit » Blog Archive » ERIC OLSEN ON HUMPING THE HELP: Some things never change. On the other hand, Roissy blames ‘Roid…

    […] On the other hand, Roissy blames ‘Roids. […]

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  82. on May 20, 2011 at 3:18 am Rock Granite

    Arnold’s maid is obviously hideous but Lawrence Taylor might have beat him in the ugly whore contest. Taylor’s bitch was still a teenager and she’s ugly beyond belief.

    I dare you to google image search for her.

    I can’t. I’ve seen too much ugly for one day.

    But what about other powerful men with ugly wives and ugly whores?

    Maria Shriver is a skank. David Letterman’s wife is hideous and his bitch was lame.

    Bill Clinton. Same.

    John Edwards. Dog city.

    What’s the point of being powerful if you are going for LESS than average looking women?

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  83. on May 20, 2011 at 4:03 am M. Simon

    One of the pieces of advice I give women is to suck their man dry every morning. A man who gets that is not going to stray. Not because he thinks himself lucky, but because he will not be led by his dick. Instead his dick will shy away since it is already exhausted.

    In my prime – say until age 50 – that would not have worked. Two times a day was a slow day. Six was above average. I ain’t even going to tell you what my best day was.

    But I always was very disciplined. My favorite line: “Sleep with me naked, I love the contact. No sex.” And that is what happened. In about 3/4s of the cases the lady would come back gagging for it. The first mate (who I pulled that trick on) explained it to me many years later. She is thinking “is he gay or is there something wrong with me?” Because by the time I convinced them to sleep naked they already assumed sex was gonna happen. You could see it in their eyes.

    One of my favorite girlfriends was quite ugly – nice body though. Her attraction? A loving heart. And she was smart. But I was her first and she wanted more experience. Ah. Well. Young love.

    I am totally against non-consensual sex. In fact I am against sex without love. Even if that love is fleeting. I learned early on that if she wasn’t burning for me (at least at the moment) it was no fun.

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  84. on May 20, 2011 at 4:07 am M. Simon

    White woman getting the long one from “minorities” …. move along … nothing to see here either…..

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  85. on May 20, 2011 at 5:44 am davey

    this one is simple really. At the time of the affair Schwarzenegger was married with a pregnant wife and pursueing his career in politics and had also been high profile for most of his life….

    So whats he meant to do? go out get drunk and go sarging for HB 10s? That would sink his political career before it even begun, as well as his marriage, and probably for very little pussy. Makes sense to go for something a little more low-key, and the housekeeper it is. Don’t even blame him.

    As for steroids, Arnie had an excuse as he was developing the best physique in the world and even a career in acting in huge films sprang from that…

    But sideffects aside, i think steroid use is a little pathetic if you aren’t in top level sports/entertainment or at least in security or something that requires you to be massively built and strong….

    You must have a little too much time on your hands, massive insecurities or complexes, or the testosterone level of a little girl(making you an undefined blob of a man).

    Unless you are making good money from your steroid enhanced physique/abilities you shouldn’t even be thinking about taking your training THAT seriously.

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  86. on May 20, 2011 at 6:55 am davey

    aren’t mud sharks women who fuck niggers?

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  87. on May 20, 2011 at 7:35 am Mad Max

    “aren’t mud sharks women who fuck niggers?”

    Yes, poor choice of words. My guess is he didn’t really understand the term when he used it in this blog post.

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  88. on May 20, 2011 at 7:41 am The Specimen

    Also, variety is a motherfucker. If you regularly get sex from a super banging, prim little thin hottie you’re going to be more likely to cheat with a fat chick that’s borderline beat, just because it’s something so different. I mean, why would a guy go out of his way just to fuck a sluttier clone of the pussy he’s already getting? Just my dos centavos.

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  89. on May 20, 2011 at 7:47 am teapartydoc

    Testosterone is also a form of birth control. I’ve assumed for years that Arnold likely has a low count because of his long-term abuse of the stuff and likely had to use assisted reproductive technologies in order to conceive with Maria. He was probably assuming this was the case with the housekeeper, too, but from looking at pictures of him at the time it is also likely that he’d been off steroids for some time or using an altered regimen trying to get his counts up for Maria. His count probably did at one point come up, but at a time when he wasn’t expecting it and the housekeeper ended up expecting.

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  90. on May 20, 2011 at 8:13 am dreamer

    i’m sure the editor understands the term. in this context a mud shark is a white person that has sex with someone of a darker variety.

    {Editor: Actually, I didn’t know that. I assumed it was just a fancy term for an ugly chick.]

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  91. on May 20, 2011 at 8:19 am Mad Max

    “i’m sure the editor understands the term. in this context a mud shark is a white person that has sex with someone of a darker variety.”

    I have never heard of it used that way. It almost always means a white woman who sleeps with blacks. Look it up on urban dictionary if you don’t believe me.

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  92. on May 20, 2011 at 10:04 am My Name Is Jim

    Went on test replacement about 2 months ago and damn right it’s made me hornier. Of course, I’m talking an order of magnitude less at best than what roid abusers do. But just the dr-ordered optimization has made a big difference. My girl was kinda freaked at first when she realized I was gonna be keeping hypodermic needles under my sink and all, now she seems to be OK with it for some reason. 🙂

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  93. on May 20, 2011 at 10:22 am Nicole

    As I’ve always understood the term, “mud shark” can be a male or female so obsessed with banging the Black that it doesn’t matter what they look or behave like. We consider them people to avoid like a plague for similar reasons that some overweight women avoid men who designate themselves “chubby chasers”.

    About the OP though, I can’t read his mind, so I can’t say why he did it. It could have been laziness or extreme horniness, but he might have been attracted to the woman.

    He’s Austrian. They and others from the more blonde and slim default sectors of Europe are not usually as impressed or fascinated with this physical type as Americans. I understand most people supposedly pick partners who resemble their parents, but this is usually marriage partners. As far as shagging, men tend to like variety.

    Also, just as it’s hard to read criminality in faces of people of different ethnicities, it’s hard to read beauty as well. When a European guy is looking at an African woman, he’s not seeing what an African man sees. Certain universal beauty markers are going to stand out, but just about anything that can be affected by either culture or familiarity, will be.

    Have you really looked at interethnic couples? I mean really looked at them? There are a whole lot of attractiveness level mismatches that happen simply because a guy is incapable of seeing past certain markers to the whole woman.

    For all we know, she may remind him of a female relative who was nice to him in his childhood. Her figure might have been sturdier and inviting more than the kind of origami sex so many large men complain of having to have with their hot wives.

    Whether or not someone is beautiful is one thing, but physical compatibility is a whole other animal.

    In order to have sex, a guy has to get an erection. You can’t tell me that with all his money and fame, he couldn’t even on steroids, avoid having sex with the maid. Hotter women were throwing themselves at him every day. If he hit that, it’s because he wanted to.

    …and who is any of us to question his taste? His dick. His call.

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  94. on May 20, 2011 at 11:19 am Dr. Grzlickson

    “I am an opthamologist”

    Then why did you spell it wrong?

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  95. on May 20, 2011 at 12:19 pm Firepower

    M. Simon

    I am totally against non-consensual sex.

    OK, we get it – you’re NOT a black.

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  96. on May 20, 2011 at 12:20 pm Tim

    You have administer testosterone with your own needle kit?

    Stay way from ‘roids unless you want a shriveled sac and high pitched voice.

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  97. on May 20, 2011 at 12:38 pm dreamer

    @editor – lol ok. i can see that. i suppose it works either way but i think i’m naive ‘cus i don’t think the maid is ugly.

    @nicole
    yeh, physical attraction is about so much more than surface looks. i think lots of it has to do w/ gravitating to people that strike something in our comfort zones from childhood, like you said.

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  98. on May 20, 2011 at 12:52 pm PA

    “Editor: Actually, I didn’t know that. I assumed it was just a fancy term for an ugly chick.]”

    The expression “MS” in its present meaning has been around for a while. I first heard it in 1993.

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  99. on May 20, 2011 at 1:15 pm luagha

    For that guy with low but not medically-low testosterone:

    Take a look at tribulus terrestris. It’s essentially plant testosterone and you can get it over the counter at the health food store. It won’t raise your testosterone count as high as the medical stuff and reports are mixed as to how well it works but it certainly had an affect on my workouts.

    It also encouraged the growth of fatty tumors (lipoma) that I had to have removed as a side effect.

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  100. on May 20, 2011 at 1:29 pm D

    While she certainly wasn’t a prime piece of ass, Arnie’s maid was most certainly better looking back when the kid was conceived:

    As you can see she wasn’t completely hideous. Heck she might have been pretty hot at one point.

    On another note, Look at his legitimate son:

    Compare to the Maid’s son:

    Yeah, she may be a bit of a warpig but obviously her womb grows much stronger sons than Maria ever could with her waiflike body and tainted Kennedy blood.

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  101. on May 20, 2011 at 1:53 pm ‘The Mistress And The Vomit: Why Did Society Defend One Woman And Not Another?’ | Five Feet of Fury

    […] UPDATE — best nickname for Arnold’s “mistress: …Mamacita Starch Bomb… […]

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  102. on May 20, 2011 at 2:25 pm trajan23

    “There also might be something to the folklore that a man who has banged hundreds or even thousands of hot chicks his whole life might find the occasional fug a strangely sexy alternative.]”

    Look at Hugh Grant. Guy was banging Liz Hurley when she was in her prime, yet he went out and bought some ground-chuck level ghetto ass. Sometimes you want to experience the gutter. Nostalgie de la boue.

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  103. on May 20, 2011 at 2:37 pm Firepower

    Tim

    Stay way from ‘roids unless you want a shriveled sac and high pitched voice.

    You consistently provided more warnings here… than you could ever imagine.

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  104. on May 20, 2011 at 3:08 pm Tim

    Haha. You’ve got no worries, Firepoodle. The warning is only for those who have a sac.

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  105. on May 20, 2011 at 4:56 pm john doe

    im getting ready to start an epistane cycle and with oral prohormones they take a toll on the liver and epistane also highers bp. which is why you have to take other supplements along side orals. to the guy above who supposedly took “a pill” and got a negative side effect. Good job doing your homework before you took “a pill”(prohormone)

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  106. on May 20, 2011 at 6:46 pm Anonymous

    Ahnold in his own words (courtesy of Total Recall)…

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  107. on May 20, 2011 at 8:34 pm Rosenberg

    Roids aren’t necessary. Do your compounds + clean bulk + creatine/zinc/magnesium + sleep and you’re set.

    It isn’t about weight but about form. I have a free-weight home gym that maxes out at 250lbs and that’s plenty. Once you can DEEP squat and deadlift 250lbsx10x3 with 60-second breaks between sets you can rest assured that you’re going to have an Apollonian body. If you don’t, then that means you’ve got piss for genes or a bad diet or both.

    The problem is that it takes dedication to do this regularly, go hard every time, and permanently abstain from sodium and other junk, but this is what separates the boys from the men, and the extra effort sure as hell beats fucking up your natural test production/liver and growing bitchtits in the process.

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  108. on May 20, 2011 at 10:27 pm Anonymous

    Awright, here’s something positive featuring our buddy…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hikLjcwFdD8

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  109. on May 21, 2011 at 1:04 am Nicole

    Dreamer, you’re right. Universals aside, there are reasons why we consider some people more attractive than others even if beauty-wise they’re at about the same level.

    Quite often, a woman will be less beautiful but more closely resemble in appearance and/or behavior something that a man associates with comfort or sensuality or trust, and that’s what does it. The problem though, is that shagging doesn’t happen in a social vacuum. If a guy considers a woman attractive, but she isn’t socially convenient, she’s going to get sidelined.

    D brings up a point that needs more love though. Men want to spread their genes around, and will often use a variety of strategies to make that happen, given the opportunity.

    People with relatively limited opportunities can’t speak for those with nearly limitless opportunities. The larger scale beta with alpha leanings has to get all he needs from one woman because he might only shag a few in his lifetime.

    A guy who knows he’s going to be attractive for the rest of his life can take his time and delegate. Even betas in cultures with strict lines who don’t totally shun or eliminate their sluts, and/or where the classes mix, delegate. There’s the wife and then there are women they shag.

    They don’t need the woman they’re shagging to be arm candy or social proof. They need her to be able to take it and like it.

    As an increasing number of powerful men are outed shagging women below their perceived class, it’s clearer to me that a woman’s status is one of those necessary illusions mostly women create for ourselves. It’s not that men will shag anything. It’s that they’re generally more independent than us, and don’t play by our rules if they don’t have to.

    Some guys are going to be more picky than others, but when a guy gets to a certain level of status, he’s just going to do who he wants to do…and what someone wants can be a very complicated thing.

    I’ve been hit on by guys I never expected to be, even when I was fatter. Because I don’t want to be disrespected and disposable, I don’t take many of the offers I get. I think though, if some of the guys here had any idea, they might still be disgusted, but no longer shocked.

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  110. on May 21, 2011 at 1:44 pm Firepower

    Tim

    The warning is only for those who have a sac.

    y so butthurt? 😦

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  111. on May 21, 2011 at 3:44 pm Anonymous

    GET TO DA CHOPPA!

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  112. on May 21, 2011 at 7:46 pm Jason

    Arnold was defiantly not on steroids at the time. At least not on enough to elevate his test levels that high. Chateau thats bullshit.
    From some one in the know.

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  113. on May 21, 2011 at 7:48 pm Jason

    ” Once you can DEEP squat and deadlift 250lbsx10x3 with 60-second breaks between sets you can rest assured that you’re going to have an Apollonian body.”

    Dude thats week a shit. When I was 15 me and other team mates my age were doing way more than that.

    If you think thats hard you suck.

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  114. on May 21, 2011 at 9:48 pm Gregor

    Doesn’t the Madonna/Whore complex come to mind? I mean, she would put on Maria’s jewelry and they would fuck in the marital bed. I’m sure he defiled her in ways that Maria would never have consented to (or that he would have wanted to broach with her). Also, the convenience of the hole seems like a big factor too. It wasn’t like this was best he could do. This chick gave him the dirty little slut he could punish + the ease of having her at the ready whenever he felt the urge.

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  115. on May 22, 2011 at 5:18 am Linkage is Good for You: Lazy Edition

    […] – “The Fine Art of Teasing“, “Arnold, Steroids and Mud Sharks“, “The Price of Female […]

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  116. on May 22, 2011 at 9:50 am Experienced Father

    Jane Seymour sez Da Governator has two more by-blows in his family tree:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1389551/Arnold-Schwarzenegger-TWO-OTHER-secret-love-children-claims-Jane-Seymour.html

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  117. on May 24, 2011 at 12:21 pm Tim

    Ahhh, steroids. Well, if you don’t think ‘roids are bad for you, check this out:

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  118. on May 24, 2011 at 1:14 pm nomy

    I thought Mud Shark was a Led Zeppelin groupie story reference.

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  119. on May 25, 2011 at 8:59 pm jenny

    I meet Maria and Arnold back when she was anchor for CBS and she was Fat. Arnold likes ’em chunky And Alfa Arnold also likes men –he is a closet Fag or Bi-sexual –so he doesn’t care how ugly a chick is–If arnold can bang a man — the beauty of a woman is a mute point. Or actually the uglier, fatter, manlier the better!

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