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Geez, I’d never wear a condom if I knew the girls would be this cool in the event of a mishap.
Disclaimer: I would only raw dog mid/upper-class White girls.
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This just keeps getting better. I’m not surprised either.
…makes me think I made some bad choices in life. To think, I could have gone to California and actually have a chance as an Arnold groupie when I was young.
Now I know he likes ’em sturdy. Back then, I thought only Barbies had a shot.
Live and learn I guess.
Now I feel bad about discouraging my daughter’s UFC fixation.
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“I would only raw dog mid/upper-class White girls.”
HBD’er bait, lol!
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I’ll be $100 that Arnold turned down Jane Seymour in the past.
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Then, loveshaft and timmy’s mommas are your style because they’re fat.
ps
after your college ball career faltered and dreams of Pro Sports Stardom! ™ fell thru, luvved yer work supplying roids to Barry Bonds
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…And the bitches’ faggotty husband gets to raise the other man’s womb shitltet.
The same shit happened in my town too. Some married bitch had several kids, if I’m not mistaken, by some prominent married politician.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: marriage is an unprotected, unmitigated ass-fucking for beta men.
They don’t even bother to bait the hook. The homosexuals can have that shit and shove it up their assholes with the gerbils.
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Arnold payed the mexican child support.
[Editor: But did she expect it?]
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Deeez, I agree. A married woman should not be screwing around regardless of the status of her pursuers. That is what marriage is supposed to be: a kind of guarantee that a woman would remain exclusive to a particular man regardless of other opportunities.
For women who aren’t completely hideous (which would require serious neglect) there is always a higher status dick interested. Marriage is supposed to mean that even if the President wanted to hit that, a woman should stand by her man. It’s a kind of tying her fate to his…tying her status to his.
…but guys, be honest. Most of you here wouldn’t want to raise another man’s child, celebrity or not, but what do you think most men really feel about this? Let’s say one of your less clued friends found out that his kid was actually the progeny of The Rock or Brad Pitt. How upset would he really be?
I mean, how upset would he be if she was 20, compared to how upset he would be if she was say, 40+?
My Dad would murder them both even though my Mom is 50+, but they’re in that deathgrip kind of love. How many people are in love like that?
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Hahah, oh god, and when they mention Tiger Woods, as if he were even in the same league. He really got put through the wringer in a way that Arnie is not. And Arnie has been allowed to carry on for years.
“Alphas” as loathe as I am to use the lingo, really aren’t called to account for their actions in the same way as betas.
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In the picture of Arnold and Maria, look at the way they are holding hands.
Maria has the “alpha” position. I know in previous posts & comments, there’s a big debate as to whether men should always take control of the hand-holding…
Thoughts or comments on Maria leading Arnold by the hand?
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What i dont get is why his mistresses are less attractive than his wife. An urge on steriods wouldnt explain this. Surely his wife was available for sex.. unless.. She turned him down.. Which isnt very alpha. Also all the girls are turning their backs on him now. Even when he is higher value now than when as an acter.
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Nicole, the only way you will get a man to accept the role of surrogate father is to make him think that is the best he is going to get.
It happens a lot when a single mom shows high value and accepting her bastard child as your own is the only way that you will get her legs open.
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I noticed the same thing about the hands in that picture. I kept wondering if that was because he was just letting her do her “We’re together” thing? I can imagine her being upset and trying to force a relationship by giving indicators (handholding) of one.
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Finnishguy, imagine if you will, your dick was shaped like an elongated rectangular box, but the most beautiful women’s vaginas were rounded sockets.
…and let’s say you achieved very high status, and gained access to the most beautiful women, but your dick was still shaped as it was, and their vaginas were still shaped as they were.
…and let’s just say you could have the sharper edges of your dick somehow surgically shaved down, but that would mean losing your status, as it was those sharp corners that made you an icon. Indeed, you’d made movies in which your sharp edged mansword were highly featured, and without it you would look too plain.
…and suppose that most of the women around who could take the punishment your penis was able to dole out happened to be less than what was considered ideally beautiful…and though you could shag the more rounded ones, you had to do so very carefully, and concentrate like you were doing surgery.
That’s the kind of situation guys like Arnold and many other naturally physically gifted men find themselves. Their status affords them the opportunity to shag the most beautiful, most feminine women, but the most beautiful, most feminine women would literally crack under the pressure.
Sometimes a guy just needs to fuck.
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Like Ahnold, as the Terminator, put it…
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Submitting below article for the benefit of the Roissysphere:
http://blogs.news.com.au/bossy/index.php/news/comments/he_tells_me_im_dumb_but_i_dont_want_to_lose_him/
The replies in the comments section are gold, too.
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ridge: “Submitting below article for the benefit of the Roissysphere: … etc.”
Gee, I don’t know what da bitch is whining about… she wanted Alpha, she got it. Her little ‘gina aught to be tingling away from the virile jerk she’s got there, ya know.
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Men who really understand women understand that at the end of the day women put up with anything.
Alphas know this. Why do you think women are always bragging about how “independent” and “strong” they are ???
Truly independent and strong people dont need to brag about anything. Not so deep down women know that they are fragile, anxious, and deeply insecure creatures.
How many women have man cheat and return back to him ??? This is the standard, not the exception.
Maria knows exactly who she married. As we speak she is more attracted to him than ever. All this stuff about how “strong” she is and go for divorce is primarily for show.
The lesson here is: Be Alpha. but don’t be a prick.
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And how has Arnold’s wife been harmed by his behavior?
If the wife had strayed, they would blame Arnold, anyway. If she had cuckolded him, they would blame him, too. And, of course, make him pay.
If he only had a few mistresses over the years, he is a model citizen.
Speaking of that, I wonder if his wife has had lovers.
Marriage is, for many reasons, not good for the average man in the USA. But, you knew that. And, after you have “known” a bunch of women, monogamy is not a very attractive lifestyle.
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“Roosh
I’ll be $100 that Arnold turned down Jane Seymour in the past.”
My exact thought.
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Eh…I bet the maid wasn’t bad 14 years ago….Maria Shriver has always had too mangled of a face for me….sharp edges and corners…..almost like Picasso cubist artwork…
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One question for the Roissy community: is this sort of behavior condoned? The concept of alpha, beta, women liking jerks, and certain “chivalrous” codes being nothing more than fodder for chumps is all very clear to me, but I always thought character was some small part of what it means to be alpha. Or could it just be having the balls to say “Look, I need more, it’s available, and I’m taking it?” I don’t think humiliating and disgracing the woman who bears your children is something to be admired, regardless of biomechanics.
Or is it just the “Gun is neither evil or good, but how it is used” argument: alpha is alpha, and some alphas will find, retain and love a woman for 40 years, while others will pork anything with a hole and a heartbeat?
I need some Excedrin.
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You have it the other way around with Jane Seymour.
He pumped and dumped. She’s still bitter.
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After banging a lot of chicks, the one thing you learn is that looks have nothing to do whatsoever with skill level and enthsiasm.. There’s probably an inverse correlation.
Shriver looks frigid. The maid was “caliente”
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Firepower,
What’choo talkin about, Willis?
I like my White wimminz slim and toned.
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“Maybe this deception was helped by the prevalence in the mestizo population of Arnold’s most salient facial features – wide lower face, wide mouth, widely-spaced and big teeth.
Based on what I saw of the kid’s unblurred face — tragically ubiquitous on a great number of unethical blogs — the kid could just as well be Danny Trejo’s.”
That’s a really good point Bluegreen. The facial features of mestizos are a lot rougher/rugged than those of whites.
But I don’t understand why you have to be such a pussy when it comes to the child’s face. What exactly is so unethical and horrendous about revealing the kid’s face to the public? Why are you trying to shame those that are interested in seeing him? There’s nothing inherently wrong with wanting to see him, it’s basically human nature. Trying to criminalize or shame basic human instinct through the tools of political correctness or morality, that is the truly shameful thing.
If anything, being exposed to this media scandal was probably the greatest thing that ever happened to this kid. Before he was the son of some ugly, lowly mexican maid. Now, he’s the son of Conan the Barbarian and Mister Universe. Which one do you think the kid prefers?
Hell, I’ll make it easier for everyone, here’s what the fucking kid looks like:
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SeenSTARS – even the kid’s jaw is bigger on the right side, as it is with his father. The resemblance is uncanny.
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OT:
I recently got a Kindle as a gift so I went on a reading binge this past few weeks. I’ve finished reading 3 crime-fiction books and I’m in the middle of a 4th right now. All written by male authors:
– Paranoia by Joseph Finder
– The Defector by Mark Chisnell
– The Lock Artist by Steve Hamilton (great book, highly recommended)
– Big City, Bad Blood by Sean Chercover
Without fail, every male protagonist in the books has a love interest that he puts on an embarrassingly high pedestal: the most beautiful woman in the world, perfectly angelic and can do no wrong, too good for him, male guilt, shit-tests and the male fails every one. There’s also a lot of white knighting and all around misandry in the books as well.
The worst is Big City, Bad Blood. It’s a hard boiled, modern noir, and the main male character is a hard nosed private detective. He’s tough and jaded, expect of course when it comes to his girlfriend. He supplicates to her like the worst omega, and she ends up breaking up with him. He fails every one of her shit tests, shit tests that the author is writing and doesn’t even realize it!
A big contrast to a great book I read called The Big Sleep by Raymond Chandler, written in the 30s when men were still men, and the male protagonist, a private detective, takes absolutely no shit from the dames.
If I read these books years ago before I knew about game and feminism, I probably wouldn’t have noticed these things and would have pedestalized the female characters right along with the author. But now it stands out to me so clearly and I have to put my Kindle down and laugh and roll my eyes when I come across it. These male authors are clueless. It really is sickening how feminism has infected all parts of American and European life, even authors who write hard boiled crime books.
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@Nicole
“Let’s say one of your less clued friends found out that his kid was actually the progeny of The Rock or Brad Pitt. How upset would he really be?”
Better yet the athlete who’s jersey he and his wife sport on game day.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1389861/How-love-children-Arnie-Schwarzeneggers-biogropher-says-dark-truth-star-emerge-.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
“This weekend, an unnamed woman claiming to be a former mistress of Schwarzenegger revealed he often targeted unattractive women because they were more likely to worship him and his muscular physique. She said he did not like to be upstaged by good-looking women.”
Apparently the reason why the Mexican is so unattractive, when he could haul far more attractive women, is precisely because he is so narcissistic that he doesn’t want women to surpass him in looks.
Hey, I’m not necessarily bashing the guy. The Dark Triad appeals to women.
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What a fucking nazi son asshole. Gotta admire his gall though
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You would have thought that after pumping out a few legitimate units, Arnold would have had the snip (a vesectomy) and then banged far and wide with relative impunity.
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““Roosh
I’ll be $100 that Arnold turned down Jane Seymour in the past.”
My exact thought.”
Or he roid-fucked her senseless and then never returned any of her calls.
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I’m willing to bet $100 that Maria Shriver has big hairy ovaries.
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he he I’ll be back
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Super Omega?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1389710/EastEnders-star-Cheryl-Fergison-marries-Moroccan-toyboy-doesnt-visa-allowing-to-UK.html
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Sid, calling the guy a narcissist because he likes variety is such a girl thing to say. He just likes to get his thing on like millions of other poor and rich guys do if they have the options.
Not every guy is so impressed with the trannies the media promotes as beautiful. It doesn’t mean men love fatties or something, but for sure, they don’t have much love for the androgynous “ideal” either.
…and that’s just generally. Arnold is a special case. He’s a big man. Better, he’s a big man with big legs and a stunning ass. There’s too much power in that engine for him to not get at least an occasional hankerin’ for a husky gal. Ask any big guy. All of them end up hoggin’ sooner or later, even if it’s just to see what it’s like, and when they do, they get hooked.
Don’t think though, that I or any other big women should feel somehow vindicated by this though. There are limits, first of all, and second, a guy liking to shag sturdy gals doesn’t mean that he’ll want to be seen with one, especially when he reaches a level of status that lesser men look to him as a role model, and his bank account depends on it.
If he were to have come out with that, most betas would look down on him or consider him closer to their equal in some way, just as they are doing right now. The fact that he had a trophy wife kept most of you hating his politics but being somehow jealous of him because he scored a high status woman who is basically the current herd ideal despite being far, far, from a natural one.
While he was married to a skull faced harpy who wore him like a man whore fashion accessory, y’all have to admit that you looked up to him. Now that you know he occasionally enjoyed siding up to someone who looks like your moms, and isn’t so “empowered”, it has taken some of the sheen off the movie cyborg.
Most of you would rather he wallowed in monogamous misery and behaved like something more of a top beta than an alpha. So this is the image he presented to you, the public.
Now you’re confused…
Heh.
He told everyone the lie they wanted to believe. You should be asking yourselves why you needed to believe the lie, and didn’t suspect that a dude who was six feet tall and well over two hundred pounds would of course cross the 30-130 sooner or later.
The thing about this whole thing that I personally find disgusting is that he sold his soul marrying into the herd of hypocritical anti male liberati in the first place.
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Nicole,
Loved that “go hoggin’.” You’re alright…
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That’s all?
Being a super alpha is good for spawning?
It does not seem a big deal.
Where are the times when you wrote the advantage was getting super hot babes fighting for being your sexual slaves? THAT is a good thing.
But, children you hardly see? Please.
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You call him a super Alpha yet he hold his wife’s (ex) hand in the same manner the Prince did for which you said was inexcusable. How is he a Super Alpha?
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I don’t understand why people with Aahnolds options marry.
Does it never occur to anybody that marriage gives nothing useful to the man? If the woman wants to stay, she doesn’t need a piece of paper for it. And a piece of paper is no guarantee she will. If it’s a love insurance policy that you are purchasing, the company you are buying it from is a poor solvency risk.
There is no legal requirement that you MUST marry if you live together, and regardless of what Doug1 has said, in this day and age there is no social requirement either.
So why not just pull a Charlie Sheen? Even if you want kids – at that status level, you can have kids without marrying.
Marrying gives the woman too much hand and increases the chance she’ll bite the hand that feeds it.
Why? Why? Why-why-why-why-why? Why do high status men marry?
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Can someone explain to me why high status men marry? And please don’t say it’s to have kids – women get pregnant even when they are not yet married. You can live together and raise kids without being married and suffer no social or legal sanction.
If there is no rational reason for it, what is the motivation? Do high status men think the girl will leave him if he doesn’t marry?
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Nicole, I’m not stating that Schwarzenegger is a narcissist simply because he enjoys “variety,” and doesn’t just aim for extremely attractive women. I think that’s just one example of his narcissism. In Pumping Iron, he proudly admits to skipping his father’s funeral. He admits to having visions of himself on top of a mountain, far above any other men. He has consistently admitted that being an average person would be the worst thing for him. He clearly lacks empathy for other human beings, is extremely self-absorbed and has a very grandiose view of himself. It makes sense, then, that he aims for less-than-stellar women, because he wouldn’t want to be upstaged by anyone else.
Am I belittling him? Not necessarily. He has accomplished so much as a bodybuilder, a movie star and a businessman that his grandiose view of himself isn’t very far from reality, though he wasn’t much of a governor. The fact is that having high views of yourself (arrogance) and wanting to meet them is one of the strongest motivators for the human psyche to do impressive things.
Most men use their status to win attractive women. He’s a rare breed in that status and power trump attractive women. Hell, Maria Shriver isn’t that stunning; he could’ve married a much more attractive woman than her, but she wouldn’t have been a Kennedy.
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So why’s Arnold assuming the submissive hand position?
Perhaps he was whipped at home and sought validation elsewhere.
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Yeah, some Super Alpha. He’s about to write a $125 million check to Maria. Kudos.
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Nicole:
Let’s say one of your less clued friends found out that his kid was actually the progeny of The Rock or Brad Pitt. How upset would he really be?
If he’s not spending a dime then lol! Otherwise everybody dies. Don’t delude yourself
Also, he better have some broads on the side. And in my case, my own kids, my own real kids, a regular master race.
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“You call him a super Alpha yet he hold his wife’s (ex) hand in the same manner the Prince did for which you said was inexcusable. How is he a Super Alpha?”
The prince is entering a marriage with the woman holding his hand that way. Arnold is leaving one.
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Arnold’s alpha-status is not in question. You should ask yourself why a super-alpha does X, not, does doing X make Arnold a super-alpha.
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Should have said “does doing X make Arnold NOT a super-alpha.”
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Sorry, but I think Arnold fucked himself here.
1) His pissed-off wife just hired one the toughest divorce lawyers in LA. No pre-nup in a community property state. Depending on how they managed their finances, she might well take him to the cleaners.
2) Yeah, maybe some folks consider fucking the household help to be alpha. But she looks like someone’s grandmother. Which makes him look more like a freak and weirdo than an alpha stud. Not good if you’re trying to revive a movie career.
If Arnold’s behavior were truly alpha, he’d have a wife willing to overlook his bad behavior with hot chicks. Hot chicks being the operative word. Arnold humiliated Maria by fucking a flabby-assed ugly Mexican housekeeper. Which is why she now wants to destroy him.
Unlike that Bernard-Henri Levy, the rightwing French philosopher who married one of France’s hottest movie stars and is now carrying on in public with a hot British heiress. The wife is totally cool with it.
Remember James Goldsmith, the now-dead British financier whose best line was something about the man who marries his mistress only creates a job opening? When he went on vacation, wife and kids were in one house, mistress and his kids by her in another house. He shuttled back and forth. Everybody was cool with the arrangement.
Now that’s being an alpha.
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“Nicole:
Let’s say one of your less clued friends found out that his kid was actually the progeny of The Rock or Brad Pitt. How upset would he really be?”
God, even women who try don’t have a clue about men. Look at this hamster dash in this bit. Classic projection of female sexuality preferences onto a guy.
For a woman, if your man plowed a rich, famous supermodel on the side, well, damn, your man must really be some choice ass, right? Definitely a keeper. The guy can get top 99.99 percentile ass, so he is top shelf gene pool material. Likely to give you similarly top shelf gene pool kids. Cf. Maria Shriver, who knew her husband was fucking half of LA for decades, just like every other male LA superstar does.
But for a guy, I don’t see how the father being Brad Pitt or the milkman makes a difference. The reality of providing for another guy’s kid is not better just because it was the top 99.99 percentile dude who plowed your gal.
I mean, sure, it is a woman’s fantasy to be able to fuck Ram McStudfuck, and still keep their beta provider online, pulling the paycheck. (“Oh, honey, I would never cheat with just anyone, but when I had this chance with Ram McStudfuck, and his truly choice genes, well, you understand–I simply could not pass it up. Now, get back to work so I can properly feed McStudfuck, Jr.”) But most guys would be saying, “Um, no, bitch, GTFO.”
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“Maria has the “alpha” position. I know in previous posts & comments, there’s a big debate as to whether men should always take control of the hand-holding…
Thoughts or comments on Maria leading Arnold by the hand?”
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And by contrast, Arnold has the dominant position in his other hand with a child. The order of things is clear.
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People are wondering why Arnold banged an ugly chick like this one? Arnold banged this chick because she was there and he felt like it. Much like you eat potato chips when they are around and you feel like it, even though you would not walk five feet out of your way to get chips.
Hell, my guess is Maria knew any chick below the age of 50 she brought in as a maid would be sucking Arnold’s junk, so Maria hired a similary-aged but ugly maid, to help assure Maria would not be replaced and to keep Arnold’s outside activities lessened. At a level Maria is almost unaware of, she knew what was going on, but she calculated that if Arnold starts the day with a BJ, he is somewhat less apt to nail one of the five new broads offering it up to him every day. And you know Shriver was too Lady of the Manor to be bothered with taking care of her man’s needs. She simply outsourced it to the maid.
Nothing new going on her, folks. Most married guys, however, don’t have the social status to get their own Marias into looking the other way. In fact, the law puts men in the position of having to go semi-celibate to keep from losing their house and kids, when their middle-aged wives lose interest in keeping hubby properly sexed and stop keeping the pounds off.
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Chi-town,
Why would a guy care about how *she* holds *his* hand? The point is that she is reaching out to him, to reassure herself and mark him as hers, keeping other women away.
However, she reaches out to reassure herself and warn away competitors, his level gaze, unabashed appraising glances at other women’s bodies, and confident physical swagger will make it clear she is holding his hand for her own reassurance.
By contrast, if he needs to signal dominance by holding hands in a certain way, it is *his* need that is showing, not hers. His inability to convey his own confidence and self-awareness will come through, or not, regardless of how hands are placed.
To put it cheekily, Ghengis Khan would not bother giving a shit about how his woman reached out to hold his hand. If she needed it, and he felt like he could tolerate her neediness at that time, fine, whatever. He would still be ready and willing to chop heads and rape the smallfolk, however his concubine wanted to hold his hand.
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Arnold is not a super alpha . He holds a huge status gap between him and his house keeper yes, but Arnold could only qualify if he can hold the line on his wife.
That is unless he wanted out. One thing I just cannot believe is when reading how much this is going to cost him. He is still going to have in the range of a hundred million in any event. He obviously doesn’t enjoy spending his money, but rather loved doing what made all that money. He is 60 years old. Who the hell cares after a few million when its time that is precious? Most people who don’t love what they do stop at the 5 mil mark because its not really about the money once you hit that range. Do people think sitting around drinking pina coladas is going to do it for these kinds of people? I would only take offense to it if it was going to someone I hated and I don’t think this applies.
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Anyone familiar with the guy’s life story must conclude very quickly that there is no one more alpha than Arnold. The man pretty much invented the modern role. If we could contain his confidence and self-assuredness in a magnetic field, he would generate more power than the sun.
His whole life is pretty much one big story of “I walked into the room, dominated the men, fucked the women, and got paid to do it.”
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@Passingby
“Why would a guy care about how *she* holds *his* hand? T”
He may not care because its often subconscious. But body language doesn’t lie as often as our lips.
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“His whole life is pretty much one big story of “I walked into the room, dominated the men, fucked the women, and got paid to do it.”
If you have to apologize for it, then you are doing something wrong. He is still doing it.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,98883,00.html
Not saying he isn’t alpha, but he is too wanting in certain areas to call him “a super alpha.” I also don’t like the fact that more men are in love with him than women(usually meat heads). An all around alpha puts a spell on both. He was never a big deal to women. Look at the house keeper. The house keeper is not much anyway you look at it. The argument was that she was the only thing around doesn’t wash either since its obvious that she was around because that was the sort Maria wanted around. It just back fired on her.
I”ll give him credit for being a Republican while snagging a Kennedy, but he did not pitch a shut out at all.
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Honestly, I don’t get the deal with the new name. ‘Roissy’ is a definitely better moniker than ‘Chateau’. ‘Heartiste’ sounds gay, no offence meant. Just voicing my concerns about the continued reasonability of a blog that has changed my life.
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@ Jack
He can write a check for $125 million. You can’t.
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@xsplat
There’s no telling with some alpha men. But I would imagine most do it because of the perception in some industries that being married makes you more stable and dependable. So the trophy wife is basically a tool to achieve higher status professionally.
Arnold is a perfect example of this. He married into the Kennedy family, and used that to launch himself into the Governor’s mansion.
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“If you have to apologize for it, then you are doing something wrong. He is still doing it.”
Arnold is a businessman before all else, even before he is a politician. Apologizing publicly to maintain revenue and brand is something otherwise indifferent businessmen do as a matter of course. One of Arnold’s flacks perpared his statements for him, and released it after Arnold approved it. Arnold did not bother sharing his own view of the matter with his employees who are dealing with the press problems.
He likely wishes he didn’t have to deal with all this–i.e., get shit from his kids, have a bunch of reporters hollering at him outside his house–but is he sorry he spent the last 45 years hammering box and getting blown by hollywood’s most nubile? Pfft. The guy probably cares far less about it than most men could imagine. Guys like him tend to operate in a different mindset. They just don’t give a shit about most things other men care about.
This sort of thing is a hassle to address in between managing his real interests.
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@Laughingdog
Yeah, it seems Arnold married Maria for the power.
Some men want power as an end goal itself, while others just want power for what it brings them in terms of resources and women. Arnold seems to be in the first category. I guess some men are just born to be super alphas who put power before anything else including women.
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Alpha seed:
http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2011/05/yvonn_lerro-miler_prison_semen.php
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Then you’re in luck. Maybe you read teh book: Loveshaft Has Two Mommies
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I also bet donuts to dollars that Jane Seymour is making a scene over this because she was rejected by Arnold in the past. Jane Seymour is the kind of skinny, pretty white girl that Arnold is not attracted to. Remember his favorite body part is “the ass” and he has a known predilection for “women of color”.
Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.
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Sid,
That Moroccan is definitely playing Omega Game – he hasn’t even got a passport out of the deal.
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MadeMan,
As a beta myself, I would observe that being Alpha seems to be morally neutral. A family-man, war-hero like James Stewart was alpha, likewise grubby creeps like Arnie and Tiger Woods, and every whining emo rock-star around.
So your gun analogy is pretty apt.
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Editor, if you’re a genuine alpha male, how come you haven’t bastardized numerous children with numerous women?
Although the evolutionary implications of having sex with hundreds of women are definitely alpha, how it possible to regard yourself as a real alpha male if the intended evolutionary results of such behavior, meaning the production of many bastard children among many different women, never come to fruition?
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Arnie most likely pumped and dumped Jane Seymour
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Arnold paid his baby momma with taxpayer funds. I guess all crooked politicans are Alpha, if access to public funds to buy hookers etc. is alpha.
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Christ, Shriver is such a grotesque thing.
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Let’s not forget who were dealing with here, gents.
It’s, it’s, it’s a….KENNEDY.
Whoever described her as a “Lady of the Manor,” is beginning to get it right.
Maria is a cold, calculating, shriveled up, power-obseessed political demoness.
Period. End of story. Maria knew and HAS KNOWN what Ahh-nold was all about from the beginning.
This is no “surprise.” This is a pure and simple political “cash-out,” after playing wifey-wifey in Sacramento for the past eight years.
Ah-nold got to play Guvernator for 8 years, and cold bitch Maria played along.
Damnation, you guys are now surprised when the bill comes due?
Man, I thought after the Clintons (heaven help us) people would begin to wise up to the utterly amoral machinations of the upper-crust political class.
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Evolution makes betas raise other mens’ kids. Those who do at least know the woman is fertile. Not recommending it, mind you.
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N/a, you can blame “The King” for that one. He was trying to be offensive, but I thought it was a cute and very apt way of putting it. If his physique is as he describes it, and he’s balling, he’ll be doing the same as Arnold.
Xsplat, they marry to validate their status by producing (socially) legitimate heirs. Nothing more. A credible king must have a queen of a certain level, producing children. It’s something he does more to maintain his mass appeal than anything else.
This is not to say that they don’t fall in love, but just that the supposed love is often a lie or backwards rationalization for a more practical decision.
In other words, nothing has really changed for at least 10,000 years.
Sid, a narcissist with status would more likely aim exclusively for very media attractive women because this would validate his view of himself. He would be constantly trying to prove to himself and others that he is better than everyone else. He’d believe that the looks of his choices were of the utmost importance, and would enjoy shagging more for validation of status than pleasure.
It’s not narcissism for a guy to prefer women who don’t have as high a sense of entitlement as hotties. No man with functioning testicles wants a woman who doesn’t know her place, especially in the bedroom.
That said, lots of guys don’t have functioning testicles. It’s one thing to prefer hotties. Most do, and to be honest, I think Arnold might too. It’s a whole other thing to worship them as if they are the only valid females on the planet, and suppress your own desire for a good shag because you’re scared of what other people will think about who gives you an erection.
There are lines. There’s preferring women who are fit and feminine, and then there is being brainwashed into thinking these women are more than mortal.
I am sure that Arnold had banged his fair share of waifs, amazons, androgynes with AIS, etc. Why is he a narcissist because some sturdy chicks are also a featured dish in the smorgasbord of poon he has access to?
…and how is not having false humility narcissistic?
The guy might not be someone you or I would find pleasant to be around, but one has to admit that a good bit of his cockiness is justified.
Passingby, I asked the question exactly because I’m clueless about it. In the feministic media, the feelings of the stepfather seldom get much airtime. We don’t often get to hear their side because almost no reporters ask.
I would hope that most men would be like my father in this…that “everybody dies” at least figuratively in that scenario, regardless of the age or looks of the wife. I just didn’t want to say what I don’t know.
I would not be happy in a scenario of being pregnant and having a baby, and someone switching my child with a celebrities’ or adding them in and telling me that I had twins or something. I don’t think a man should be happy about raising someone else’s child unawares.
…but I don’t have so much faith in humanity, so again, I didn’t want to project my feelings on men whose feelings I don’t know.
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Maria used to be a bit plumper and Arnold probably liked her that way. Google, “Maria Shriver Chubby” and you’ll see.
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“Can someone explain to me why high status men marry? And please don’t say it’s to have kids – women get pregnant even when they are not yet married. You can live together and raise kids without being married and suffer no social or legal sanction.
If there is no rational reason for it, what is the motivation? Do high status men think the girl will leave him if he doesn’t marry?” – xplat
Like I said in another thread historically western society has restrained alphas with marriage and monogamy. It’s what separates us from sub-Saharan Africa or the middle east. Sure affairs and mistresses were always there but it was discreet. The west had no culture of sexual debauchery, polygamy, or harems until modern times and shockingly the west is on a descent into oblivion for it.
Feminism and all the evils it spawned like divorce rape are relatively new. As it stands today no man should marry regardless of his status.
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“Evolution makes betas raise other mens’ kids. Those who do at least know the woman is fertile. Not recommending it, mind you. ” – Schmoe
I always figured male repulsion to female promiscuity was an evolutionary defense against cuckoldry.
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Passingby said: “The guy probably cares far less about it than most men could imagine. Guys like him tend to operate in a different mindset. They just don’t give a shit about most things other men care about.”
Again, as Ahnold said in The Terminator…
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He only has two others?
I don’t buy that.
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How he could make 4 children with Shrivelling Shriver, i don’t understand
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So you are saying men’s motivation is social peer pressure.
I’ve said before that society is women. Lately I’ve changed my stance and said that society is women plus beta providers – often also called white knight supporters, beta chumps, or manginas.
So marriage is inclusion into “legitimate” society. It is inclusion into female culture.
Nicole mentioned that marriage “legitimizes” your heirs.
Ok, but my quesiton still stands. In this day and age, men really don’t need women to legitimize their heirs, and men have no need for society to proof them. A business decision? George Clooney’s career seems to be doing fine.
Now if you are going after a vote, then ya, you’ll need to play by societies rules – meaning the rules of females and manginas. But if you are going after career, you don’t.
So again – why do men try to do the socially acceptable thing, when it is nothing but risk and negative consequences to the man?
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Arnie is the man, comes to America with nothing – in the process becomes Mr Universe while redefining the bodybuilding sport.
Then becomes a movie star making a fortune in the process.
Marries a Kennedy, the most powerful political family in the country and ends up being governor of California.
Now if that is not the American dream then I do not know what is.
Does anyone really doubt that he cannot get a hot chick. The women were convenient and more than willing, plus they kept there mouths shut.
The Mrs is only leaving b/c he has gone a step too far.
As for Jane Seymour, how stupid do you look!
As for those who question is Alphaness, do me a favour!!
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I call shenanegans.
Name one non political profession where you gain 1/10000th of a percent advantage over your peers by being married.
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You’re either a fan of the “male physique” or a chav.
Or, God forbid, both.
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That’s just the thing, Xsplat. He’s a politician.
Politicians still feel they need to be family men to be considered credible leaders. They are social leaders, so I guess the idea is that if a man can’t even lead a family, how’s he going to lead a state or a nation?
I am waiting for the guy who decides not to get the paper marriage. That’s someone I’d want to vote for because he’s awake.
By the way, I’ve been reading a bit lately on ethnic differences in metabolism, liver function, and the like. It wouldn’t surprise me if he had some kind of nietzschean thing going on consciously or subconsciously to breed a superman. That could explain unprotected sex with women of color after his Kennedy kids were old enough that he could detect weaknesses.
Being outside the “legitimate” family would mean that they would be free. It’ll be interesting to see how their lives pan out in 20 years.
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Women are attracted to the alpha rogues that refuse to be tamed. Would they vote a James Dean into office?
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Well, being single doesn’t necessarily mean being a rogue. Nowadays, it would just mean being smart and not being led around by the nose.
Now that even some women are starting to wake up because feminism hasn’t made it easier for them to do anything but get crapped on, a guy who refuses to buy into it would be refreshing.
He would however, have an uphill battle because way too many people are still in the darkness. Christians would claim he was the antichrist or at least an unrepentant sinner, and feminists would call him a misogynist.
It might work in his favor though, if he could become famous before running for office.
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Ya, I’d like to see a family man politician who refused to get married.
People might disagree with him and even be furious at him for raising a big stiff middle finger to their values, but they’d know that in front of them stood a man with balls.
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Nicole is making sense this time. Any high status kids, male or female, have been taught from the crib that the requirements for keeping that kind of status for themselves and their families has always been the same:
If you are a guy, just find a fertile young-enough woman from the right top caste to marry – provided she has a tolerable public notch count. Then unsheath your manhood rampant and spooge out enough man juice for an heir and a spare.
There. You have it. You have completed your lifes mission. But if you fuck it up, you and yur whole family can expect to fall a large, scarry, lurching notch-click downwards towards the basement of horrors better known as the modern middle class.
Families that get relocated and stuck here can expect that their young daughters version of being presented at court will be more like what happens when she goes to an after-party stone drunk with 3 guys she just met at a Reggae Bar.
She will be a little sore; walking might be hard at first, but life will go on…
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Smart girls can wear hooker cloths to all the kind of places their smart brains tell them is OK to do this and do OK. Like to a Big Law job Interview.
However, stupid girls could dress like Mother St. Thersa of Avia and still manage to achieve one-ness with a train of horny guys in a miraculously short time.
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Please mercykill this “heartiste” thing. Even if Roissy has left the blog, the archives shd. not be defaced by such a stupidly cringeworthy moniker.
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“I call shenanegans.
Name one non political profession where you gain 1/10000th of a percent advantage over your peers by being married.”
Televangelist.
She can help you bring in more money.
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[quote]By the way, I’ve been reading a bit lately on ethnic differences in metabolism, liver function, and the like. It wouldn’t surprise me if he had some kind of nietzschean thing going on consciously or subconsciously to breed a superman. That could explain unprotected sex with women of color after his Kennedy kids were old enough that he could detect weaknesses.[/quote]
Riiiiiiiight… Brazil is chock full of übermenschen, doncha know? And the City Of God is the new Fortress Of Solitude.
Those (ahem) ‘ethnic differences’ in the brain will never make up for an alleged liver improvements… but you darkies can sure dream, can’t you?
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Televangelist? That is political.
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Aaaaand we’ve reached the point where you know you’re wrong (as if the raw empirical evidence of ≈100% married in various high-society professions isn’t proof enough), and so your next task is to pretend that by “political” you meant “anything that involves politics at all in any way”.
If you’re going to do that, then your argument is, frankly, just stupid, since there are almost *no* jobs that aren’t “political” in this sort of way. I mean, we’re left with, what, software developers and blue-collar factory workers?
The sheer fact that almost 100% of men in high-status jobs are married points to the very obvious fact that some advantage is inherent in being married. Questioning what that advantage *is* is an interesting question; questioning *whether* it exists is retarded.
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Ok, so televangelism isn’t strictly political. I was thinking along the lines that the televangelist is voted into office by females and beta providers. That the family minded men and the women who tamed them choose their evangelists and send money to them based on their appeal.
That type of job is quite different than pretty well any other job. Accounting for instance, is not a political job. You get paid not for appealing to voters, but for adding up numbers.
You can try to change the subject to how stupid I am if that’s easier to tackle, but I haven’t heard from anyone who has given any evidence or example of any job that doesn’t rely on female voters that gives even a tiny benefit to the man by being married.
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Even famous Feminist Naomi Wolf calls bs on the way the DSK thing is being handled (obvs political set-up):
“If Strauss-Kahn turns out, after a fair trial, to be a violent sex criminal, may his sentence be harsh indeed. But the way in which this case is being processed is profoundly worrisome. In 23 years of covering sex crime — and in a city where domestic workers are raped by the score every month, often by powerful men — I have never seen the New York Police Department snap into action like this on any victim’s behalf.”
http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/05/23/a-tale-of-two-rape-charges/
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[quote]Even famous Feminist Naomi Wolf calls bs on the way the DSK thing…[/quote]
You’re surprised that (“even”) a feminist would come to the aid of a rapist?
Look to the tribe, my friend… look to the tribe.
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John, statistics say nothing of individuals.
I don’t need to dream. I am the dream.
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Well, being married helps when climbing Mount Management. Someone above said perhaps it shows stability, sounds about right.
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Personally, I find myself discreetly looking for the exit if I hear she’s got a kid. But not to belabour the obvious, some men evidently do tolerate stepchildren. Raising someone else’s child thus isn’t the ultimate dealbreaker.
[Editor: It’s not as ultimate as, say, being a 90 year old granny, but it’s still pretty shitty. Or: Men who date single moms would sooner date childless women if they had the choice.]
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i find it strange that jane seymour would reveal that info.
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“Is this guy the reason why you didn’t come up to my hotel room last night and suck my cock?”
–Ahnold to a woman upon meeting her husband
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But super alphas date attractive women. Arnold’s women are just plain nasty.
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That’s the vague handwaving that I often hear. I was hoping for something a little more specific.
Most men marry anyway. If a boss has two candidates for promotion, and one is unmarried and more talented and sociable and skilled and able, will the married guy get the position? And if they are both equal in every way, you’d expect the single guy who has more free time to devote to his job to have an advantage.
I’m just not buying the argument. Maybe once upon a time in a land far far away married men had a significant business advantage. Now? Show me the money.
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“The sheer fact that almost 100% of men in high-status jobs are married points to the very obvious fact that some advantage is inherent in being married. Questioning what that advantage *is* is an interesting question; questioning *whether* it exists is retarded.”
Unless you work in a profession or subset of a profession dominated by homosexuals?
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A man in love is incomplete until he has married. Then he’s finished.
– Zsa Zsa Gabor
…. and she would know.
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Whether or not marriage really gives any real advantage nowadays is a very good question though. I do wonder if guys do it because it’s a kind of tradition, or if it’s a simpler combination of reaching a certain age and women throwing themselves at a guy left and right.
I lean towards the latter. It is a tradition, and it does serve to make a guy seem more stable and leadership oriented. It also implies that he gets regular sex, and isn’t subject to the same sort of melancholy common among single male intellectuals, at least stereotypical ones anyway.
However, it might just be an opportunistic thing. I’d like to hear from guys who’ve been there. If he stayed single, how hard was it not to get married? If he married, what were the circumstances? Did he truly feel in love, or was it more socially validated?
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And what percent of managers and up and coming managers are divorced?
Married, single, divorced – relationship status is nothing like the concern it once may have been.
If anyone knows otherwise and can do more than offer vague handwaving, speak up.
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