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Break Rules, Get Laid

May 23, 2011 by CH

When you break rules, you seem more powerful.

When people have power, they act the part. Powerful people smile less, interrupt others, and speak in a louder voice. When people do not respect the basic rules of social behavior, they lead others to believe that they have power, according to a study in the current Social Psychological and Personality Science.

People with power have a very different experience of the world than people without it. The powerful have fewer rules to follow, and they live in environments of money, knowledge and support. People without power live with threats of punishment and firm limits according to the research team lead by Gerben Van Kleef of the University of Amsterdam. Because the powerful are freer to break the rules—does breaking the rules seem more powerful?

Good question. If game is a valid concept and an effective means of making oneself more attractive to women by projecting the behavior and mannerisms of higher value, then the answer will be yes. Let’s find out!

People read about a visitor to an office who took a cup of employee coffee without asking or about a bookkeeper that bent accounting rules. The rule breakers were seen as more in control, and powerful compared to people who didn’t steal the coffee, or didn’t break bookkeeping rules.

Acting rudely also leads people to see power. People who saw a video of a man at a sidewalk café put his feet on another chair, drop cigarette ashes on the ground and order a meal brusquely thought the man was more likely to “get to make decisions” and able to “get people to listen to what he says” than the people who saw a video of the same man behaving politely.

Survey saaays… you don’t have to actually be powerful to be perceived as powerful by others. Corollary: You don’t have to actually be servicing a harem of hot babes to be perceived as an attractive man with lots of options on the table. All you need to do is mimic the traits of the powerful and the attractive. This study, despite its modest aims, is a huge endorsement of game.

What happens when people interact with a rule breaker? Van Kleef and colleagues had people come to the lab, and interact with a rule follower and a rule breaker. The rule follower was polite and acted normally, while the rule breaker arrived late, threw down his bag on a table and put up his feet. After the interaction, people thought the rule breaker had more power and was more likely to “get others to do what he wants.”

“Norm violators are perceived as having the capacity to act as they please” write the researchers. Power may be corrupting, but showing the outward signs of corruption makes people think you’re powerful.

Bingo. And showing the outward signs of male desirability makes women think you’re desirable.

Chicks dig power. If you can ape the mannerisms and conversational technique of powerful men, chicks will think you are more powerful than you may objectively be. When chicks think this, they get wet. Some of them even have your baby in secret.

A big part of the mission statement of this blog, this outpost of outrageous sanity, this kingdom of clear thought, is to impart you, the readers, with the knowledge and tools to act in such ways that you maximize your attractiveness to women. This includes improving your body language, voice, and social skills so that you emanate the aura of a powerful man, a state of male being which is universally arousing to women. And now science has come to the fore, zig zagging along its destination, to confirm what we implacable womanizers have known all along — game is the real deal. Call it game, or call it charisma — if you don’t have it, you are handicapping yourself in the dating market.

So the next time you want to impress the ladies with your massively tumescent power, kick your legs up on the table, drop your ashes on the ground, interrupt freely, glance around the room when others are talking, nod up then down, take your time responding to questions, and for god’s sake, stop smiling like a goof.

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  1. on May 23, 2011 at 5:49 pm Law Guy

    FIRST AGAIN!!!!!!

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  2. on May 23, 2011 at 5:56 pm sayed

    heartise !!

    good post

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  3. on May 23, 2011 at 5:56 pm John Galt

    Law guy loves the cocka

    good read

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  4. on May 23, 2011 at 5:57 pm Tinderbox

    Is Heartiste actually Raw-C?

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  5. on May 23, 2011 at 5:57 pm walawala

    @walawala
    “”Acting rudely also leads people to see power. People who saw a video of a man at a sidewalk café put his feet on another chair, drop cigarette ashes on the ground and order a meal brusquely thought the man was more likely to “get to make decisions” and able to “get people to listen to what he says” than the people who saw a video of the same man behaving politely.””

    Context is everything. I live in China. Here, talking loudly on your cell phone, pushing ahead to get in line, butting in line, drivers smoking in their taxis, kids taking a piss in the street. talking with your mouth full and belching loudly—a nation of Homer Simpsons—all this is de riguer and not in any way unusual. It’s definitely NOT attractive.

    Women find foreign guys who actually take the time to dress well and keep a lower profile much more attractive.

    I think the context to this is to behave in a more independent and unconventional manner different from common social norms—whatever those norms may be.

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  6. on May 23, 2011 at 6:01 pm YR

    That’s why it can be so easy to get laid in high school or college relative to post-college “real world” where there is no automatic overarching framework of rules to easily break.

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  7. on May 23, 2011 at 6:09 pm Traveller

    That’s why women like death row inmates.

    The electric chair gives a lot of power.

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  8. on May 23, 2011 at 6:17 pm Jar Jar

    Sigh, im disgusted with human nature. Rather than assigning low status to someone who breaks rules we give and assume they are high status and reward them. Genuinely nice people are seen as suckers. Now that the cat is out of the bag what man is ever going to want to follow rules? Why cooperate for the greater good of society when your seen as a sucker compared to the rule breaking asshole who is greatly respected? They wont and I dont blame them.

    Every man will think let someone else cooperate and follow rules and build a civilization at their own expense. When every man thinks that way seems like what you get is Africa where there is hardly any cooperation and just chaos. Every man wants to be a alpha and would rather die striving to be alpha than live a beta.

    I have no solution to this problem. Perhaps there isnt one. If mother nature didnt make the right choice in having us look highly upon cooperative people rather than rebels, than perhaps we deserve to have civilization return to the jungle. So be it.

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  9. on May 23, 2011 at 6:21 pm PA

    Jar Jar, mother nature was very generous to us. We’re neither hive organisms like ants, nor solitary creatures like cats. The sweet spot: an individualized social animal.

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  10. on May 23, 2011 at 6:31 pm Gorbachev

    Science proves us right again.

    Break the rules and get away with it.

    The key to everything.

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  11. on May 23, 2011 at 6:32 pm Gorbachev

    This might explain why feminists with SMV (’cause there are lots without it – nothing they say is salient) always fuck the biggest, baddest assholes and devote themselves to jerks.

    Break the rules. Get ahead.

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  12. on May 23, 2011 at 6:41 pm T

    Something’s a bit off about the conclusion you drew. The study examined appearances and not actual results the rule breakers achieved. Someone who is not a rule breaker assuming that role temporarily, will not get the same results as someone who does this regularly. For the especially timid, jumping out of line with an act too brazen could get them into conflict they are not prepared to handle.

    As with negs, there is a very nuanced line most people probably will fail to grasp. But, practice makes perfect, and as with negs, impudence is king.

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  13. on May 23, 2011 at 6:58 pm Sara

    My work is so boring now I longer sit near a ‘rule breaker’. You know, to keep sanity and amusement in an office, managers need to make sure they hire one arsehole per desk group.

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  14. on May 23, 2011 at 7:05 pm Bigfoot

    This is probably one of the most helpful posts I have read in a long time anywhere. This is one of those posts that provides instant helpful advice you can use anytime. Just imagine you’re the boss of whatever situation you are in and act that way. That will garner respect.

    To make it even simpler, talk loud. Talking loud is one of those easy to do things that can make your life a lot easier with women and even in business. Loudness characterizes a man in power. Be the loud guy.

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  15. on May 23, 2011 at 7:16 pm lurker

    This post didn’t seem to have the effortless sparkle of most of em.

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  16. on May 23, 2011 at 7:40 pm David Rockefeller

    But truly powerful men are the most polite SOBs I’ve ever met. They’re polite without doing anything that looks like deference or servility. A cop once told me that when he dealt with organized crime types, the higher on the totem pole, the more considerate they were. But never weak. Nothing about their manner indicated they needed anyone’s permission for anything.

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  17. on May 23, 2011 at 7:43 pm quetal

    “stop smiling like a goof.” true

    people seem to underestimate the power of not smiling.

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  18. on May 23, 2011 at 8:04 pm modernguy

    How about calling it “being a charlatan”? Not that there’s anything wrong with that, this day in age. This is a nation and a culture of charlatans and when you’re in Rome you do as the Romans. So fuck everyone else.

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  19. on May 23, 2011 at 8:13 pm Bortimus

    The smiling thing is a serious problem white guys have. I know I have a tendency to laugh nervously while in social situations, been trying to keep that in check, heh. Dammit.

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  20. on May 23, 2011 at 8:22 pm Anonymous

    “the higher on the totem pole, the more considerate they were”

    not considerate exactly

    more like able to effectively choose their battles

    and recruit allies

    there’s always an angle

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  21. on May 23, 2011 at 8:28 pm Dat_Truth_Hurts

    Smirking is ok. A cocky, asshole smirk. But in moderation.

    I broke this fuck buddy’s bed once. She had a queen size mattress on two smaller box springs and a fucked up support beam. I pile-drived her for awhile and eventually busted the beam loose. We laughed at the time and just slept at a funny angle. Left in the morning without doing shit.

    She was furious with me. Found out that she almost threw her back out trying to lift the mattress herself (she is a spinner).

    We met a few days later and I didn’t apologize. She wanted one but I wouldn’t budge and eventually just flashed a cocksure smirk. One glass of wine later, and a complete refusal to take her seriously -I was mouth fucking her. Didn’t break her bed that night though.

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  22. on May 23, 2011 at 8:43 pm Joey Giraud

    David Rockefeller:But truly powerful men are the most polite SOBs I’ve ever met

    Powerful and confident about it, yes. Insecure powerful men, not so much.

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  23. on May 23, 2011 at 8:47 pm Firepower

    I break rules
    I’m an asshole
    — chicks dig me
    We must form a club

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  24. on May 23, 2011 at 8:51 pm Anonymous

    Another clip from a Ahnold flick… be like the guy with the knife, but don’t let anyone like Bennet call you on your B.S. antisocial posturing.

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  25. on May 23, 2011 at 8:58 pm julian

    It is true that one can be ‘polite’ and graceful without exhibiting one iota of weakness. However, this state can only be achieved by truly being powerful, which probably represents less than 5% of men. If you ever watch the drug kingpin character from Breaking Bad “Gustavo” you will know what I am talking about.

    Also being the “loud” guy does not necessarily make you more attractive to women. In fact, most women prefer the strong silent aloof type that when he does talk cuts through the atmosphere with icy wit or low slung humor.

    That doesn’t mean he doesnt break the rules, he does, he just doesnt do it in some cornball way by cutting in line at the coffeeshop or ramming through people like a dumb ogre to get space on the subway.

    His style is more unobtrusive and smooth. You arrive to an outdoor concert only to realize it’s sold out, he quickly manouvres to grease the security cards and gets both of you in the back way, meanwhile he pulls out his flask out of his leather jacket and you guys both proceed to chug scotch as the band comes on. This is a massive difference from the stupid guy who slams his coffee down at meetings and grunts loudly about his “weekend at the strip club” at office parties.

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  26. on May 23, 2011 at 9:10 pm Anonymous2

    “Context is everything. I live in China. Here, talking loudly on your cell phone, pushing ahead to get in line, butting in line, drivers smoking in their taxis, kids taking a piss in the street. talking with your mouth full and belching loudly—a nation of Homer Simpsons—all this is de riguer and not in any way unusual. It’s definitely NOT attractive.”

    Absolutely. Extreme obedience to authority is just as alpha, if not more. Think Nazi ideals, or sultans and prophets slaying in the name of Allah. Context. Context. Context.

    Never forget that game is against 19th century “chivalry” towards wimminz. The genuine article from the 14th century is an entirely different concept.

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  27. on May 23, 2011 at 9:17 pm Sai

    My main concern of introducing such habits, mannerisms into my life is pretty much coming out as a phony, and this dominance-game is pretty much the source of being a pretentious scumbag.
    I think the main idea should be somewhere on gathering, claiming more self-respect, rather than scaling, kicking others down the social ladder. And the way to go there? So far my theory is to score chicks and keep scoring them and if still haven’t got enough confidence then keep scoring them. It’s also in connection with what I once read on this forum’s comments, it’s actually not that we basically need to learn to act like an alpha, but rather need to “forget”, stop acting like a beta, because alphaness along with all the good reactions, interesting replies , dominant body language and so on.. are inside of us somewhere deep, just need to gather enough self-respect to live with our million years old heritage.
    I’m on my way to prove this theory right yet, so if anyone has any feedback it’s welcome.

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  28. on May 23, 2011 at 9:27 pm From the can

    Quotable Schrute: “I never smile if I can help it. Showing one’s teeth is a submission signal in primates. When someone smiles at me, all I see is a chimpanzee begging for its life. ”

    PS: Ahnold’s financial loss=mankind’s action cinema gain. GET TO ZEE PATURNATY TEST CENTAH!!

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  29. on May 23, 2011 at 9:29 pm SV Warrior

    I was at a company offsite. I was there to run one of the meetings. A VP asked me to get him some coffee. He assumed I was some sort of admin I guess. I didn’t hesitate. I went out in the hotel corridor and saw some half filled dirty coffee cups from another meeting. I brought him a cup of that.

    He looked at me as he sipped his coffee and said it seemed cold.

    I smiled then announced to the room who I was and why I was there and asked the meeting to begin. I thought his jaw was going to hit the ground.

    He had a reputation of being a power snob but he never crossed my path again. He knew he had been out maneuvered. He was known for dominating meetings but in this three hour meeting he never even spoke. Not once.

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  30. on May 23, 2011 at 9:44 pm guy

    Think this works at work too? Amongst other guys?

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  31. on May 23, 2011 at 9:49 pm The Real Vince

    Being a jerk signals social status. Employees have to respect customers, but bosses can be jerks to employees. And everyone loves a good asshole, which is why recycle the cliche cop who “plays by his own rules,” cutting through all the bureaucratic bullshit.

    But whether you’re a jerk or nice, in repeated social encounters it needs to be backed up by something more substantive. The jerk in a cubicle next door isn’t going to be viewed favorably by the people who know him.

    As for smiling, I know this blog has long tried to temper the advice people seem to take from Mystery about painting on an idiot grin, but the most useful tip is to have a cocky smirk BEFORE noticing others. There’s a world of difference between seeing a girl and THEN smiling (“reaction-seeking”) versus slyly smiling and then noticing her (with an upward nod, of course). The former says “YOU brighten up my day,” while the latter says “I’m luminous.” Or as this blog more poetically once put it, “Be the light, not the moth.”

    People who encounter celebrities are turned off by jerk behavior but never stop gabbing about “how nice” someone is on a chance encounter, where nice is really just common courtesy rather than anything resembling heroic kindness. “Keanu Reeves asked how I’m doing today!” Context is everything and different rules apply to different people.

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  32. on May 23, 2011 at 10:03 pm Julius Aberdeen

    Gorby,

    from all the comments on the floor yours are — as always — the most boring.

    5-star-boring shit.

    Stop, now.

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  33. on May 23, 2011 at 10:12 pm Firepower

    Julius Aberdeen

    Gorby,

    from all the comments on the floor yours are — as always — the most boring.

    5-star-boring shit.

    Stop, now.

    Hey, give the guy a break; he’s practicing his Engrish.

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  34. on May 23, 2011 at 10:26 pm Anonymous

    “Seem” is the operative word… women love being lied-to, as you know. Actually being that was is for suckers and too much of an investment.

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  35. on May 23, 2011 at 10:37 pm Gorbachev

    Sometimes commenters have ten minutes to compose. Sometimes we just want to mark it so we can read the responses.

    Little checkboxes and all.

    Wait. I forgot I don’t care what you think. Must remember alpha frame.

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  36. on May 23, 2011 at 10:44 pm Ludwig

    Maybe this is a Captain Obvious comment, but:

    The first time you fuck a girl, always go doggy. Sets the tone, shall we say. And grab a handful of her hair while you’re back there.

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  37. on May 23, 2011 at 11:02 pm Orville

    What a name… Gerbil Van Queef

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  38. on May 23, 2011 at 11:04 pm Anonymous

    Be bad, don’t give a sh*t about other people… a wee instructional video (and song)

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  39. on May 23, 2011 at 11:05 pm Firepower

    Ludwig

    Maybe this is a Captain Obvious comment, but:
    grab a handful of her hair while you’re back there.

    Nah, I’m tired of them. Besides, only asian girls let that taint hair get that long.

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  40. on May 23, 2011 at 11:07 pm Southern Man

    The big picture is frame and value. Most men – especially hard-working good-guy beta providers – have much, much higher value than they realize. One of the lessons of game is to recognize your value and act accordingly. One kind of stupid think I did at the beginning of my beta recovery was, upon entering a room, say to myself “Every man in this room wants to be me; every woman in this room wants to fuck me.” Yeah, but it helped put me in the correct frame, especially at work – and yes, it has made a difference, particularly with my female supervisors. And, surprisingly, with my students, both male and female. What I get from this post is that now when I walk into a room I’ll say to myself “I own this room and everyone and everything in it” and (within limits) act accordingly.

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  41. on May 23, 2011 at 11:23 pm shah

    very well said mate !

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  42. on May 23, 2011 at 11:29 pm Anonymous

    Southern Man said: “One of the lessons of game is to recognize your value and act accordingly. One kind of stupid think I did at the beginning of my beta recovery was, upon entering a room, say to myself ‘Every man in this room wants to be me; every woman in this room wants to fuck me.’ Yeah, but it helped put me in the correct frame, especially at work – and yes, it has made a difference, particularly with my female supervisors.”

    Word!

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  43. on May 24, 2011 at 12:43 am driveallnight

    Re: the smile thing

    Something that works really well for me when working a fresh target is to frequently be laughing when answering her phone calls.

    They always ask, What are you laughing at? Nothing, I say, then change the subject.

    What were you laughing at?
    Nothing.
    What?
    Nothing.
    Tell me.
    About what?? Forget it. What are you wearing right now?

    Drives ’em nuts, but I’m not sure why.

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  44. on May 24, 2011 at 12:51 am DJDamage

    Is this a parody or closer to the truth?!

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  45. on May 24, 2011 at 12:55 am Whackjob

    @Sai:

    You need to imagine the lone wolf or the lone eagle. Strong, powerful, does not need company, but can and does swoop down when it wants. It’s happy on its own, it’s self fulfilled on it’s own, it’s content and has it’s own life and own goals. The female is just an occasional dessert in the main course of life. The dessert is not the be-all and end-all of life. Else you will be a diabetic fatty. His own life, that is the main focus. Life and work that does not center around women. A manly purpose and focus.

    i.e. Build a life beyond women, dont need them like a needy person, and that power will show through that if you go to a woman, you are doing her a favor and if she rejects you, it doesnt bother you one bit. And when women chase you, rejections are extremely rare.

    Think Clint Eastwood. Think Kevin Costner. In their real lives. If you are from India, I can give you a couple of good Indian analogies.

    There’s a saying that only when you dont need a woman at all in your life is when you will attract the most number of them and also be able to keep them. I attest this based on my own experiences.

    If you cannot maintain frame of not needing anyone – it will show through immediately as fake and shallow. That real inner strength has to show through. You have to get to that zen state like Neo attains in the Matrix – once he realizes that he’s the one – he is so tuned in to everyone, and yet so above them all – he can handle the punches of the numerous Agent Smiths as if they are happening in slow-mo.

    When you have solid inner game and genuine inner self worth, you can swat away shit tests and frame breaking crap from girls without an effort and an added smirk for effect !

    It’s human nature – we chase that runs away from us. You want to be in that position where women chase you. Check out the movie “The Tao of Steve”. It’s based on a real life character – a real fatty, working as a kindergarden teacher in small town America – but who used to be a real casanova. It’s 3 sweet takeaways for men who are new to picking up gals :

    “Be excellent, be desireless … be gone !”

    i.e. Demonstrate High Value, dont desire or want or be needy, and then vanish so that she chases you.

    Some of the wisened men, once they see the cunning and opportunistically deceptive nature of women – do realize that wasting one’s time scoring them is useless. Build a better life for yourself, have good hobbies, have good and reliable men friends, have good activities for yourself when you are alone, take care of the money part in your life – and guess what – the babes come to you in droves.

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  46. on May 24, 2011 at 1:04 am Newfoundman

    Funny corollary: Remember the stereotype of the leering boss sexually molesting his secretary? Or the supposed “sleazeball” who sidles up to women, puts his arm around them, calls them “honey”? We’ve been told this is bad, women dislike it…is that wrong? Is it only the feminists that don’t like it, but other women ostensibly like these traits? Or is there something else about the man that is “creepy”? (Too old, wrong time or place, etc.)

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  47. on May 24, 2011 at 1:35 am Gil

    Haha, funny video, Anon! A cocky Beta-loser with a knife trying to act tough in front a badass Alpha.

    So if you’re a Beta who’s trying to laid by emulating an Alpha then you’d better make sure that “rape by fraud” isn’t a crime where you try to pick up chicks.

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  48. on May 24, 2011 at 1:56 am xsplat

    Funny corollary: Remember the stereotype of the leering boss sexually molesting his secretary? Or the supposed “sleazeball” who sidles up to women, puts his arm around them, calls them “honey”? We’ve been told this is bad, women dislike it…is that wrong? Is it only the feminists that don’t like it, but other women ostensibly like these traits? Or is there something else about the man that is “creepy”? (Too old, wrong time or place, etc.)

    My girlfriends often report to me of failed pickup attempts that creeped them out.

    A miscalibrated approach is a fail. It shows a lack of sensitivity not just to the girls feelings, but to the required social dance. Men are like birds of paradise – get a few dance steps wrong and the whole seduction loses its edge. It’s about the ritual – knowing what is or isn’t an appropriate next move. Not coming on too strong, but coming on relentlessly.

    I’ve dated girls who get hit on every day wherever they go. Men driving by in cars stop to leer and proposition.

    My ex girlfriend now wants to fuck this guy, but can’t, because his approach is too direct. She told me straight up that if the guy approached with more tact she’d suck his dick.

    I don’t know the magic answer of what is creepy and what is an apocalypse opener. It just comes down to reading social cues and getting inside the mind of the girl and reacting with finesse and agility in the dance of seduction – you maneuver together – and this bird of paradise ritual turns the girl on, if by doing it well you seem like a fit bird.

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  49. on May 24, 2011 at 2:01 am Me

    Bring forth the desire for war in the hearts of those around you. Your destinies brought you here. Force every person in your vicinity to take control of his or her own destiny and force his or her own will upon all they encounter.

    Or burn!

    The douchebag wins because he has taken action. Actively seek your destiny or it will be chosen for you.

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  50. on May 24, 2011 at 2:32 am The Specimen

    Very true. I know the author tends to simplify things to get the point across, so I’ll add in a little nuance. Rules should be broken judiciously. Depending on which rules you break and how you break them, you can come off looking like either an intrepid big swinging dick, or a complete fucking moron. For example, while having manners may imply less power, they are also a marker of social class and status and thus high value. The key is striking the right balance between the two traits in opposition.

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  51. on May 24, 2011 at 2:45 am Me

    @ jar jar

    Fairness has nothing to do with it. People look out for themselves and since most people don’t act, they leech off of those who do. They want to be led because they’re paralyzed by fear.

    There will always be more workers than entrepreneurs

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  52. on May 24, 2011 at 2:51 am Me

    Sorry about the triple post.

    “David Rockefeller

    But truly powerful men are the most polite SOBs I’ve ever met. They’re polite without doing anything that looks like deference or servility. A cop once told me that when he dealt with organized crime types, the higher on the totem pole, the more considerate they were. But never weak. Nothing about their manner indicated they needed anyone’s permission for anything.”

    Notice there aren’t too many posts about actually becoming powerful and the best man in the world. Because not everyone can be the best and most powerful. If they could, there wouldn’t be “the best”.

    Keeping the woman in your life from realizing the truth about the world and you and being too bored by the lack of feelings that arise in her when you’re around, leading to her obsessing over how miserable she is with the world and you and therefor herself, is the most important thing about Game. The future of our quickly declining society depends on it.

    Your power has been stripped before you realized you had any. That is why Game is necessary in our time.

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  53. on May 24, 2011 at 3:34 am Norma Jean

    Stop posting that douchebag video. It wasn’t funny the first 50,000 times you posted it.

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  54. on May 24, 2011 at 4:03 am Breeze

    So many betas are going to get their asses beat down by taking this too far.

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  55. on May 24, 2011 at 4:08 am Gil

    “So many betas are going to get their asses beat down by taking this too far.” – Breeze.

    Yeah, probably.

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  56. on May 24, 2011 at 4:26 am Phoenix

    If any guy comes up to me, and acts like a total douchebag, he’s gonna be one step closer to getting his ass kicked.

    If a girl pulls a bitch move on me, I’ll quickly elaborate on whether she loses my attention or not. Or how long for. My punishments are variable because I’m an understanding type of guy who knows that girls have busy lives too.

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  57. on May 24, 2011 at 5:55 am xsplat

    Everybody knows at least one guy who says the most insulting things to people, and yet not only does he get away with it, people find him charming.

    If I were to try to describe how to be that guy, I couldn’t. If I were to try to be that guy, I couldn’t. Somehow some guys have cultivated a room filling presence and they can get away with murder. Rather than being considered douchebags, they are considered personable.

    I don’t even try to be that guy anymore. Rather I work on my own little charms and ways. I play to my own strengths.

    Rather than use the hints above to cultivate my inner douchebaggery, I can find ways to use them to tweak my personal style.

    If you don’t like douchebags, find a way to use the rule breaking cues above that fits in with your personal style. I’m sure you can find a gallant way to charm.

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  58. on May 24, 2011 at 7:16 am carter

    no I am first jackass!(puts feet up and lights a cigarette in a non smoking area)

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  59. on May 24, 2011 at 7:42 am Trimegistus

    “Creepy” = “Not rich enough”

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  60. on May 24, 2011 at 7:47 am The Specimen

    Julian won the thread a few comments ago. Right on the money about being judicious in when and which rules to break.

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  61. on May 24, 2011 at 8:56 am Paco Fernandez

    @Jar Jar

    “Now that the cat is out of the bag what man is ever going to want to follow rules? Why cooperate for the greater good of society when your seen as a sucker compared to the rule breaking asshole who is greatly respected?”

    I like this line of thought and I see where you’re coming from, but like all techniques, pulling the power-demonstration card requires discretion. There’s an obvious distinction between a charismatic dude and a social deviant who shuns law for the sake of his own enjoyment. That is, you don’t have to be a terrorist or a sex-trafficker to be alpha. On the contrary, a leader who is able to get his buds to cooperate on a project at work or organize a strategic pickup at a bar is the one who is seen as alpha.

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  62. on May 24, 2011 at 9:17 am A. Nonny.mous

    Reminds me of when I’m in a bar and just want to be left alone; chicks flock to me like flies on honey. It’s because when I’m in a bar and desire to be alone, I’m acting rudely: ignoring people, taking up extra space, watching TV instead of the hot babe next to me.

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  63. on May 24, 2011 at 7:39 am Alpha Cat

    Fuck society. All my life I was told to “treat others as you’d like to be treated” and do nice things for girls….

    FUUUUUUUCK that noise.

    Society wants to tame men into little bitches who don’t break rules. It’s happening from Kindergarten and all the way up through High Schools…

    As a nice guy, I always wondered why the girls were attracted to the guys who broke rules in school and didn’t give a shit… it seems they had it figured out. These are the guys getting all the girls and prime pussy.

    Great blog post.

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  64. on May 24, 2011 at 10:00 am Rollo Tomassi

    Law 28: Enter Action with Boldness
    If you are unsure of a course of action, do not attempt it. Your doubts and hesitations will infect your execution. Timidity is dangerous: Better to enter with boldness. Any mistakes you commit through audacity are easily corrected with more audacity. Everyone admires the bold; no one honors the timid.

    Confidence is derived from options. Knowing that you hold a royal flush, knowing that you have 3 other women waiting on your attention, knowing that you have 3 other job offers, and knowing that you can provably generate more options for yourself when you lack any, is a subconscious well of power that manifests itself in your demeanor.

    Game can be distilled down into two factions; those with genuine options who’s confidence is manifested in their behavior, and those who lack real options, but are socially adept enough to present the appearance of the confidence that comes from those options. For the latter, the goal is to generate new, genuine options as a result of presenting that appearance effectively and internalizing the confidence that comes from them.

    On a root level of consciousness, women register rude, anti-social behavior as evidence of an abundance of options for man. The legitimacy of power that man might actually possesses is irrelevant in that moment of attraction. The subconscious message her imagination (i.e. hamster) is receiving is that only a man so confident in his options (or an ability to generate them) would be comfortable enough to overtly display such mannerisms publicly or to her individually.

    The impact of this message is then further amplified by the particular situation they may find themselves in, or be modified by how attractive a woman perceives herself to be (SMV) in the face of his audacity. She compares his demeanor to the most predictable responses she’s experienced (generally, lesser, “nicer” men) and makes her estimation of him in that moment. This is exactly why Negs and Cocky/Funny work: Only a man with varied, provable options would assume the risk of offending the sensibilities of a beautiful woman most men would be sexually interested in.

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  65. on May 24, 2011 at 10:32 am Anonymous

    Take a book to a night club, preferably Jane Austen. Any smart woman will approach.

    Of course, there isn’t likely to be any smart woman in the club.

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  66. on May 24, 2011 at 11:15 am Robard

    Jar Jar

    “I have no solution to this problem.”

    Be the guy who swats down the rule breakers.

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  67. on May 24, 2011 at 11:35 am chi-town

    Just break the stupid rules. There are plenty of em. Breaking all the rules at random is characteristic of a resident imbecile. Break rules for a selective advantage . Do me a favor and break some of the stupid fucking rules. Some of them are no more than silly striping paint on a field of social “etiquette”, cause we always did it that way, or a monkey house majority opinion.

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  68. on May 24, 2011 at 11:51 am PA

    Rule-breaking can be a display of status, ie having option. However, it can also be the mark of an o m e g a, someone with nothing to lose.

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  69. on May 24, 2011 at 11:56 am dragnet

    OT:

    Feminism: Abortion is fine…unless it’s girls you’re aborting–

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_india_abortions_girls

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  70. on May 24, 2011 at 11:59 am senseiern

    One area that pisses me off are interrupters. I used to be the polite guy that let them take over. Instead, now I say, “Look fucker. We’re having a conversation. If you want to participate, wait your turn.” If they try to AMOG back with something like, “well, I was talking and you interrupted me.” I just continually interrupt them with, “Get the fuck out.” If they insist on continuing to disrespect me, I am ready to escalate to physical, because I gave then the opportunity to back down, and they chose to not take that option, so the only option left is to deliver an ass whooping.

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  71. on May 24, 2011 at 12:21 pm quetal

    science proves it again

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/the-hot-button/science-confirms-chicks-dig-bad-boys/article2032713/

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  72. on May 24, 2011 at 12:25 pm Commander Shepard

    “Society wants to tame men into little bitches who don’t break rules. It’s happening from Kindergarten and all the way up through High Schools… ” – Alpha Cat

    Most definitely true. The purpose being to indoctrinate men into accepting their low place on the social hierarchy, to define life by “being a good person” or some other nonsense. There is less crime, disruption, and conflict this way. Just remain a sucker for society’s benefit while all the rewards go to a few who couldn’t care less about “society”.

    “Creepy” = “Not rich enough” – Trimegistus

    Typically “creepy” means beta male.

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  73. on May 24, 2011 at 1:09 pm King A

    More evidence that Game is going mainstream!

    From the article, “Proof That Everyone In The Market Is A ‘Beta Chaser'” from Business Insider.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-of-the-day-percentage-of-quants-using-beta-2011-5

    Game explains all.

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  74. on May 24, 2011 at 1:19 pm Jeffrey of Troy

    Now you’re just baldly promoting sociopathy.

    And on a related note:
    @Gorbachev

    “Science proves us right again.

    Break the rules and get away with it.

    The key to everything.”

    US?!

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  75. on May 24, 2011 at 1:31 pm Gestalt

    This just up: Science confirms chicks dig bad boys

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/the-hot-button/science-confirms-chicks-dig-bad-boys/article2032713/

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  76. on May 24, 2011 at 1:36 pm barbar

    @Jar Jar
    “Every man will think let someone else cooperate and follow rules and build a civilization at their own expense. When every man thinks that way seems like what you get is Africa where there is hardly any cooperation and just chaos. Every man wants to be a alpha and would rather die striving to be alpha than live a beta.”

    In many parts of Africa (or other undeveloped societies), there is no reward for following the law and cooperation. You will starve.

    In developed societies, you can make a decent living by following the rule. There is an appropriate reward system in place to keep men in their place.

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  77. on May 24, 2011 at 1:38 pm Ricochet

    Caveat: don’t make a big deal out of breaking the rules all the time, that’d be a tingle killer.

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  78. on May 24, 2011 at 1:55 pm MichaelC

    David Rockefeller

    But truly powerful men are the most polite SOBs I’ve ever met. They’re polite without doing anything that looks like deference or servility. A cop once told me that when he dealt with organized crime types, the higher on the totem pole, the more considerate they were. But never weak. Nothing about their manner indicated they needed anyone’s permission for anything.

    A truly powerful man gets that way by knowing when NOT to be an asshole to people who have the ability to harm him down the road. Being polite to cops (and to people who might decide to try to kill you if you go out of your way to disrespect them) is elementary common sense. This does not mean you need to put up with fools.

    An aura of power, an attitude of “this is how it’s going to be, end of discussion” does not necessarily entail being gratuitously rude. It CAN involve demonstrating that you do not feel any need to bow to others’ rules, or to ask the permission of people who you do not grant power over you to.

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  79. on May 24, 2011 at 2:29 pm A. Nonny.mous

    Two links to show nice, beta guys finish last:

    http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2011/05/things-nice-guys-have-do-found-attractive/38083/

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1390319/Scientists-happy-men-significantly-attractive-ladies.html

    But of course the The Beta Atlantic give nice guys “tips” on how to be more attractive. Because their male readers are, for the most part, SWPLs with no ball sack.

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  80. on May 24, 2011 at 2:51 pm King A

    Alpha Cat wrote:

    Fuck society. All my life I was told to “treat others as you’d like to be treated” and do nice things for girls….

    FUUUUUUUCK that noise.

    Society wants to tame men into little bitches who don’t break rules. It’s happening from Kindergarten and all the way up through High Schools…

    As a nice guy, I always wondered why the girls were attracted to the guys who broke rules in school and didn’t give a shit… it seems they had it figured out. These are the guys getting all the girls and prime pussy.

    Great blog post.

    Congratulations. You’ve linked the pussy-hunt to an idiot’s justification for crime, only you have elevated it to a level of sophistication just high enough for less refined acolytes to be immune from remedial dissuasion. Your readership will miss the subtleties, and you have blood on your hands.

    Truth is nuclear fission. Wisdom is containment. When handled carefully by wise purveyors, truth has a power unlike anything else. When abused and disseminated in bursts of out-of-context half-lies, truth is radioactive, if not explosive. You are either clumsy and arrogant, or you are naïvely indifferent to the forces at play.

    You can’t claim it’s not your fault they missed your point. You have to profess your point with their incompleteness in mind, and must correct for it. We understand you have no concern for the chaos you dredge up — hey, the country is going to hell, what’s a little more randomness in the mix, especially since it’s so much fun?

    You are immune to the prim scolding of trolls appealing to your conscience. I am no troll, and I wouldn’t flatter you by appealing to conscience: the damage that one man in severe error can do is limited. But I do appeal to that one man’s readership to step back from the cloud of pick-up tips and recognize when a man is asking you to destroy yourself for his own rather lonely and anonymous amusement.

    The key element in promises like his is deception — the promise is always, always more enticing than the reality. La petit morte. The chase more fun than the capture.

    I have little expectation that my commentary will be published, buried deep though it is deep in some quickly forgotten blog post. There is nothing in it for you, and why take the chance at allowing real criticism? But you are growing weaker by assuming disagreement with your program is the product of weak minds or feminist hatred.

    It is something for you to ponder and answer. Your following is large enough for you to reconsider your elevated responsibilities.

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  81. on May 24, 2011 at 6:27 pm Anonymous

    Pretty interesting, but it doesn’t mean that women will never find a “rule-follower” attractive. As others have pointed out, it depends on the context. If you’re living in a tribal warrior society where a rule-breaker will be cast out of the community or killed, criminal types will be totally unattractive to women.

    On the other hand, if you’re living in a decadent individualist society, criminals are attractive.

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  82. on May 24, 2011 at 7:49 pm Anonymous

    Anonymous said: “On the other hand, if you’re living in a decadent individualist society, criminals are attractive.”

    Yup, like now.

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  83. on May 24, 2011 at 8:09 pm Feh

    Some posters miss the point. Females are attracted to power, including the power to float with conscious amusement above certain social norms. This reassures part of their brain that they’re safely in the company of a man who knows the norms, and the other part of their brain that is thrilled by the man’s ambiguous, amused attitude toward those norms. BOTH the knowledge and the libertinism signify power. Attraction is reinforced both by the hamster and the hindbrain. Proof: the tingle makes them giggle.

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  84. on May 24, 2011 at 9:06 pm Anonymous

    Norma Jean said: “Stop posting that douchebag video. It wasn’t funny the first 50,000 times you posted it.”

    Make it worth my while. 😉

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  85. on May 24, 2011 at 9:36 pm Jar Jar

    The only people who can get away with following rules and not appear weak are already powerful men. They can afford to handicap themselves like that because due to their situation of already being powerful noone can subconsciously assume they are only following the rules because they are cowards and afraid to be put in their place.

    Ordinary men who follow the rules are seen as weak and only following the rules because they cannot afford to break rules like a alpha can. A beta following the rules signal “I’m afraid to step out of line because my genes arent good enough to deal with the consequences.” A alpha breaking the rules signal “I can afford to break the rules because my genes are good and I can deal with anything you throw at me.”

    We are lucky in the fact that both sexes attraction triggers seem to be easily fooled. So a beta breaking the rules can appear more alpha than he really is and pass on his genes that are good for building a civilization.

    The reason some women hate game is that it’s hard for them to tell the difference between a genuine alpha and a fake alpha. They hate the idea of betas with genes they deem “inferior” stepping out of line and acting like a alpha with so called “superior” genes.

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  86. on May 24, 2011 at 10:17 pm incubus the tickler

    There are 2 types of polite behaviors – politess born of confidence & intelligence, and politess born of fear.
    Fearful behavior is, of course, vaginer repellant.
    Similarly, there is the rudeness of the insecure (boorish or whiny, nasty behavior) and the rudeness of the bold, brave, and focused.
    Bold, brave, and focused works.

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  87. on May 25, 2011 at 2:38 am vision

    David Stocker, Beta of the century :

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110524/ts_yblog_thelookout/parents-keep-childs-gender-under-wraps#mwpphu-container

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  88. on May 25, 2011 at 1:24 pm Professor Woland

    Smiling is submissive behavior. Like not making eye contact, it is something betas do.

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  89. on May 25, 2011 at 2:35 pm Alpha cat

    King A: you’re an idiot if you think I was talking about running around on a crime spree and to break as many laws as possible to get alpha cred… Wow

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  90. on May 25, 2011 at 8:40 pm Anonymous

    Ah, now I see why chicks dig jerks.

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  91. on May 25, 2011 at 10:44 pm King A

    Alpha Cat, I wasn’t talking to you. I was talking past you. You are a symptom, not a cause. You are an object of conversation, not a participant. Your misunderstanding confirms your status.

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  92. on May 26, 2011 at 1:25 am Peter Parker

    King A:
    Dang, dude. You sound like a comic book character.

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  93. on May 26, 2011 at 10:31 am ASPIRANT

    Well I guess I should make clear there’s a difference between people who are nice because they HAVE TO be and people who are nice because they CAN be.

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  94. on May 26, 2011 at 10:13 am thesecond

    @KingA

    You can’t claim it’s not your fault they missed your point. You have to profess your point with their incompleteness in mind, and must correct for it. We understand you have no concern for the chaos you dredge up — hey, the country is going to hell, what’s a little more randomness in the mix, especially since it’s so much fun?

    Being a violent criminal does make a lot of women wet for you. That was shown by the earlier post in how people with ten violent crime convictions have far more babies, and a host of other things. That is a perfectly valid point.

    As to whether CH will cause crime- his tips which his readers follow are about invading other men’s personal space, ignoring what women say, and other verbal and body language related tips to show dominance, not beating the crap out of people.

    Plus, truth is truth. It’s gotta be told.

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  95. on May 26, 2011 at 10:28 am ASPIRANT

    King A:
    The people who miss the point are too stupid to put this advice to good use anyway. After going too far a few times, ham-fistedly applying this advice without understanding the subtle value and dominance cues they’ll begin to think it doesn’t work and move on. Keep in mind that having the luxury of being a good person is a DHV. If you can be nice and magnanimous to everyone and eschew negativity, you look like things are going well for you. I’m not talking about the dumb tit-for-tat of offering compliments and resources in exchange for sex that most men instinctively gravitate to. That is not what being a good person is, that’s just desperate.

    I don’t even think that CH would feel any compunction even if what you were saying were true in the worst. He has said several times that he is a hedonist, first and foremost. I’m guessing the status that comes with purveying a unique toolset is pleasant in and of itself.

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  96. on May 26, 2011 at 1:49 pm Tinderbox

    Peter Parker said:

    King A:
    Dang, dude. You sound like a comic book character.

    Ironic?

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  97. on May 26, 2011 at 5:27 pm Anonymous

    King A has Assburgers

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  98. on May 26, 2011 at 5:34 pm Anonymous

    I just can’t accept your definition of an alpha. What you’re describing is basically a black man(sorry to be un-PC), and I think most women would not find such an extreme attractive.

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  99. on May 26, 2011 at 9:50 pm Anonymous

    Holy crap, Anonymous. You must not get out much.

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  100. on May 27, 2011 at 6:24 pm Al

    I act like this a lot (I like to break rules for fun). From my experience it seems like this kind of behavior often shock strangers/acquaintances and thus give me power over them.

    However, the effect is almost absent on my close friends. When traveling in a big group, for example, I usually end up getting annoyed and just leave on my own (acting against the assumption that everyone should stick together). I feel like this is not exactly the most alpha behavior and instead I should bend everyone toward my will.

    What’s the verdict here?

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  101. on May 28, 2011 at 3:36 am Anonymous

    Curious article, don’t you think? http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2072530,00.html

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  102. on May 28, 2011 at 2:30 pm Alpha cat

    Al, do your own thing but be a leader. Or find better friends.

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  103. on May 29, 2011 at 4:03 am Anonymous

    I started not smiling like a goof today with my uncle who has always dominated me with his body language. He asked come on why you dont smile? when I wasnt smiling automatically like a goof when he said a joke I didnt find funny, or smiled automatically when he smiled.

    Of course him asking that was subconscious… he was basically asking me why arent you being submissive toward me?

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  104. on May 29, 2011 at 4:03 am Anonymous

    or didnt smile automatically when he smiled*

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  105. on May 29, 2011 at 8:40 pm collegeboy

    Hey, does this stuff work with older women (29-40, even younger for some with children). I’m 29. I used to play games back in high school. I was rebellious and it worked.

    I think I’m coming to the conclusion that yeah that older women need less game, but more specifically that negative game might not work on mature women (women who make a reasonable living, mentally mature and who might have kids). So far they see through the bull shit and refuse to play along. I believe that they will respond much better to positive game. One girl took me out to eat (to a nice place) I told her I was rebellious. I tried to pull a light hearted rebellious game and she hasn’t talked to me since. She had the sparkle in her eyes when she first saw me. She took me out to eat. she listened to me. She would pay for every favor she asked for with money, (she was very trusting, I was looking down her back the whole time I helped her, I thought she was wearing a thong and later clarified with her that her underwear just seemed to disappear into her butt). I think that had I been nice, and adventurous I would have been more successful. I have met other mature women like her, they see through the bull shit also. Is it me, or do older women no longer put up with rebellious behavior and ego put downs.
    It might be that these women have a lower self esteem and they need someone to help them feel better about themselves. They also seem over worked, tired and lonely, which is typically a good thing for greater beta males.

    I believe that we need more guidance. Because for those of us out of college, there are allot of attractive women who are becoming more mature and are earning a good living. These women don’t seem to be buying this kind of behavior.

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  106. on May 29, 2011 at 8:56 pm collegeboy

    I think these tactics only work in high school and college with immature girls having the mentality of 15-24 year olds. Some women seem to never grow up, case in point I recently over heard a pretty 35 year old complaining how her boyfriend would mistreat her and how much he demonstrated power over her.

    but bottom line. older women who are self sufficient. don’t put up with bull shit. They enjoy my company. They pay for stuff (I want them to put out instead, it should be an easy hit, since their parents aren’t around, they have no virginity to lose either).

    What do I do now? Does this mean these women are going to force me to go for women who have not matured yet or younger women who are still immature?

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  107. on May 29, 2011 at 9:01 pm collegeboy

    @collegeboy

    Some women seem to never grow up, case in point I recently over heard a pretty 35 year old complaining how her boyfriend would mistreat her and how much he demonstrated power over her.

    This is a woman who was self sufficient and educated with children. She complimented me allot and then bent over to organize stuff on the ground while I saw her butt crack in all its glory.

    She was self sufficient, but highly insecure like a girl who needs a man to survive, economically.

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  108. on May 29, 2011 at 10:54 pm Anonymous

    collegeboy said: “Some women seem to never grow up, case in point I recently over heard a pretty 35 year old complaining how her boyfriend would mistreat her and how much he demonstrated power over her.”

    Heck, I know a 49 year old w/ multiple divorces who keeps riding the cock carousel when not trying to get an on-again-off-again boyfriend to commit (even though he’s been stringing her along for the usage when not feeling a need to “see other people” for a while now). She’s cute, I’ll give her that, but… damn!

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  109. on June 2, 2011 at 5:18 pm antislaggun

    This post more than any other convinces me that this blog has contributed to the explosion of douchebag behavior among pudgy officeworkers who go out for a “wine glass” during “guys’ night out.” Give me a break. If you’re a fat officebitch limpwrist you’re not going to become something else by acting like a douchebag…you’re just going to be a bitch. For example, I got cut off by these two fat-faced office bitches the other day, and they looked very satisfied as they got to the red light first. They were “alpha.” Or you can listen to some scrawny bastard talk loud in a bar about his bowel movements and he thinks he’s alpha because he read it on these blogs, but he just looks like a bitch trying too hard.

    Give it a rest, you’re only encouraging douchebaggery with these kinds of posts. Oboma is another cunt who thinks he can act “alpha” with these kind of cheap tricks but the mask comes off too often and everyone knows he’s a limpwrist butler.

    The problem is with people who tolerate people talking loud and putting their feet on the table. Maybe that impresses women and homos in the northeast. In Texas and in other countries that would quickly get you a beating.

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