Have you ever noticed how many hot girls have a passel of gay male friends in their inner circle? But don’t get the wrong impression. It’s not accurate to say these gay men are orbiters sucking up to the emotional needs of their girl friends; more often, the hot chicks are orbiting the gay men. The gay men decide where to go out, and the women follow. The gay men lead conversations, and the women respond. Hot babes, in other words, are the beta male orbiters to gay male friends.
I don’t know how gay men act around other attractive gay men — presumably they act similarly to straight beta males in the company of hot women — but I do know that gay men are the absolute MASTERS of negging and teasing hot chicks. Thus, beta males starting out with game would find it helpful to spend some time hanging with mixed groups that include gay men. What they will witness is an absolute CLINIC in the use of negs and teasing to arouse the pleasure centers in women.
Overheard examples:
Hot chick: [complaing about her long workouts]
Gay male friend: That’s not a real workout. Stop bitching.
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Hot chick: [lamenting the long walk to the party in her high heels] I almost wanted to take them off and throw them in the street!
Gay male friend: [looking at her shoes and shaking his head disapprovingly] Next time, don’t just say it. Do it!
Why are gay men so good at negging hot women? Sure, gays have a biting, shallow wit and a keen ability to ricochet from one subject to another giving each only the most superficial consideration that appeals to women, but more importantly, gays are totally relaxed around very good-looking girls. Women’s beauty — the prime vector inducing stammering, stuttering, stressing and pants loading in straight beta males — exerts no influence on gay men’s emotional states, except in a distantly abstract aesthetic sense, like one might feel admiring a pleasing artwork.
Straight men — and by straight men I mean beta males, because alpha males already understand how women function — can learn a thing or two from gay men about how to handle hot chicks. Gay men have natural attraction game around women, because they are truly 100% outcome independent. There isn’t a gay man alive who cares about closing the deal with a chick.
You’ll learn more observing the gay man-hot chick social dynamic. Gays don’t neg and tease constantly, though they do tease a lot more than you suspect. Every so often, the gay friend will flatter his girl friend and pass a compliment along, usually relating to something she’s wearing or her improved body. But it seems every sincere compliment is leavened with three backhanded compliments, three sarcastic ripostes, and three playground-style teasing insults.
Why do hot girls put themselves in this reactive position vis-á-vis gay men? Simple. They like it. They love how their gay friends verbally molest them. They love it so much they often remark absent-mindedly how great it would be if their gay friends were straight.
The hot girl who is surrounded by boring beta men all day, who gets approached by marble-mouthed suitors more often than she can count, craves the teasing put-downs and the mercurial ministrations of self-confident, don’t-give-a-shit-what-she-thinks men in her life. Gay men give her all that, minus the cock. Imagine her delight when a straight man with game gives her the same thing, plus the bonus of a massively tumescent penis.
Don’t you find it ironic that gay males are the biggest white knighters and users of negs at the same time? Seems like a paradox.
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Push-pull at its finest.
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I have also heard women talk about wanting to seduce a gay guy back straight (i.e., the ultimate validation of their attractiveness as a woman), so there is that as well. Orbiters, yes.
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I used to work in a restaurant with many gay guys. I remember once we were changing in the coed locker room and one of the gay guys used the word, “Cunt.”
The girl says, “Don’t say that word!”
Gay guy: “Cunt. Cunt, cunt, cunt. You have a cunt, and you have a cunt and you have a cunt and you definitely have a C U N T!”
And the girls all burst out laughing.
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Some gay males are white-knighters but usually not. This post is entirely accurate – and I am a gay man. Regarding how gays deal between ourselves, the same rules apply to the point of hot guys disliking over-enthusiastic and clingy behaviour but not beyond sluttiness. All gay men are sluts (if they can get the sex). I always get the best man in the club (if he’s good enough) by walking up to him and asking “do you want to fuck me tonight?” So, obviously, such a line will not work with a straight man.
As a gay man I also have an ability to get women to do my bidding to an extent that even astounds me – what is it? Pimp hand. This is in general life because I rarely encounter women in straight pick-up environments. Hot chicks adore me and princesses hate me because I will not – repeat NOT – ever pander to their shite.
Gay men are the best harem-builders of women of all – just so long as the sexual aspect is removed.
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Your line to get the “best” man in the club is quite retarded…
Like a slut bragging about getting pumped and dumped every time she goes to a club and directly ask dudes “do you want to fuck me tonight?”
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Didnt you cover this before? THis blog is starting to repeat itself.
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And?
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Maybe.
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Stop whining.
If you’re squealing about how the blog is repeating itself then it seems that all this repetition has failed to make you less of a whiny cunt.
Which seems to me like a case of you failing to grasp the lesson the first time.
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Holy Shit. Try to make a little constructive critisim and its like I went into the Vatican and dipped my balls in the Holy Grail. Sorry if I’ve come to expect a little better from this blog.
[heartiste: did you choose the most unassuming chalice? otherwise your balls will disintegrate and be consumed by eternal hellfire.]
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That really made me laugh heartiste. That is the quality of writing I except from this blog.
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I think because of their objectivity, gay men can read the social cues a lot more accurately. Its not just negging. They can also display sympathy and understanding in a casual way, sometimes just by using an inflection in their tone of voice, which builds rapport and comfort with the girl. Its not just negging.
Case in point: I was hitting it off with a girl I met at a bar, and she was with one of her gay friends. I was being cocky funny, and I could tell she was interested. At one point she left the room, and her gay friend told me quietly “She likes you. You need to be NICE.” I followed his advice and cut back on the teasing and sarcasm. Ended up dating the girl for a couple months.
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Right. You were overgaming and he pointed it out since he liked you too and wanted to see you get with her. If gay guys like you enough, they’ll help you.
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“Stammering, stuttering, stressing and pants loading in straight beta males” and other self-limiting responses to contact with a woman have an evolutional function – a man must have enough self-confidence or accept beta status in order to go over this hurdle. This is the way the rule of requiring higer self-confidence (higher status) in order to access women is enforced.
Gays avoid this (definition: men who psychologically block sexual attraction of women in some ways). They can use the part of the brain that deals with people as if the women were men (erotically neutral, self-interested technical view – MichaelE’s excellent response to challenge with 3 girls comes to mind). An acquaintance complained a while ago “How come all the gays have phone contact list full of women but I don’t have a single one in my contacts?”. Straights need to get self-confidence by achievement in hierarchies (work, competitive games – to simplify, winners get alpha status, losers beta, both participating groups still get women). They can use this (human relations management) part of the brain with men in more capable mode and use it with women in sexual mode (pleasurable, but limiting).
There’s a downside, of course. Gays get clearer view of women and thus strategically easier access, but they don’t enjoy it (of course it’s possible to be psychologically gay but physically straight, but it’s not easy, because it’s difficult to limit the amount of obsession with sex [with every woman, remember that you don’t want to block some things!] in this case). With men, they are less capable to compete and cooperate in hierarchies, but are better at one-on-one personal tasks (hairdressers, …). They gravitate towards professions, where they can work at person-person level and get higher status than large groups other people (entertainment, politics – in order to filter them out the politicians are required to demonstrate family values). In hierarchies they don’t like to be psychologically on “bottom” and are more prone to using irregular and manipulative means instead of fair competition (Hitler and some terrorists, for example).
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Girls are not so dumb you can just cut and paste gay behavior,they are very intuitive and can tell when your fronting,unless if she’s interested then she doesn’t care,anyway why do we need to study gays to get chicks, our grandfathers never did.
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I have noticed the abuse that women heap on another (competition – even if ‘friends’), but they all take it from gay men. I think part of it is the fascination that the gay men simply aren’t interested.
Clearly, when an Alpha (naturally) imitates some of this behaviour it works. The number of Beta males that I have seen that flatter and please hot women is nauseating…not because they get laid (they don’t) but because it is so degrading…
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You won’t see too many hot girls orbiting fat gay slobs. The underlying mechanic here is still physical attraction: fit well-dressed guys who are obsessive about personal appearance –> perfect “boy friends”.
[heartiste: actually, the gay guys i saw negging the hot chicks were nothing to write home about in the physical department. no homo.]
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The hot girl who is surrounded by boring beta men all day, … craves the teasing put-downs and the mercurial ministrations of self-confident, don’t-give-a-shit-what-she-thinks men in her life.’
not just that. she’s more relaxed around gay men since they’re not interested in her sexually. it’s exhausting always having to have to maintain a ‘bitch shield’, as this blog puts it, warding off guys coming onto you.
[heartiste: women are relaxed around straight alpha males too. it’s beta males who don’t know what they are doing who make women feel uptight and uncomfortable.]
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Because alpha males are good at reading social cues and won’t hit on you if you aren’t interested.
[heartiste: women feel relaxed around alpha males because they know what to say and how to act to make women feel aroused.]
I can’t remember being uncomfortably hit on by an alpha, period.
[that’s game.]
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Of course you can’t remember being “uncomfortable”…
http://www.blinkx.com/watch-video/tom-brady-snl-sexual-harassment-psa/h7nIkQjgII_oYNH7gQfUpA
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Heartiste:
Didn’t you say that that when hitting on a girl, you need to shake up their world, make them feel uncomfortable? What about when a girl gets nervous because she likes you (thinks you’re alpha)?
[heartiste: there are different kinds of nervousness. the good nervous is the one chicks feel around men who arouse them. the bad nervous is the one chicks feel around betas who are awkwardly courting them. gay men, if they make girls nervous, tend to make them the good kind of nervous, as in “what crazy thing is he going to say about me next!”]
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While I completely agree with the principle of the Gay-Neg dynamic, I can only shake my head at the irony of gay men instructing beta straight men how to act Alpha.
It’s an indictment on society that homosexual men should be better masculine role models for beta-herbs than ‘natural’ Alphas.
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Alphas would have a natural disdain for betas, and prefer not to school them to compete for quarry.
Gays are nihilists. They are tribeless heathens and libertines without a homeland. Alphas are rooted. A rooted man is a self-interested man. A homosexual doesn’t want your women, be it the women in the same room, or “women” in the abstract that still arouses a competitive feeling in the alpha.
Therefore, sad as it is, a sassy fag will more readily assist you in snaring his cuntish orbiter than an alpha out for the same thing.
Bet you most fags are relieved when you take them off their hands for a while, too.
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“Marble-mouthed.”
Great phrase, tight post, and this is why you’re money.
Happy 2012, motherfucker. 😉
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A gay man is essentially a lot like a woman – he is looking for an alpha male, preens himself extensively etc…
But compared to all the other female friends a hot girl has, the gay man does not compete with her for guys.
They offer everything other girls offer without any bitchiness / backstabbing / competition etc…
It’s normally borne out of a particularly bad experience with girls when young / overly dominant mother / very strict upbringing. You rarely see it in tribal cultures
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Dangerous bullshit – the fallacy that homosexuality can be “therapied” away.
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why dangerous ? It is the right of the person to decide what he wants, you fascist.
Thousands have left the gay lifestyle.
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I’ve observed they also share the same inane celebrity gossip gene too, so they bond over that.
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Again, generalisation.
Get your facts right – I’m a fag and neither me nor my mates are into sleb culture etc. I box, I bodybuild and so do the other guys – all fags too.
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Then why are you a fag? I think a lot of you guys get sucked into a lifestyle and then can’t leave it because its all you know and you can’t admit to yourselves that you were wrong.
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Maybe he’s the type of teh ghey that doesn’t have fag hag orbiters of the hot or fugly variety? Most of teh gheys I run into in the dc area are more of the emaciated, 28 inch waist variety, not the bodybuilding set.
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Truth in this but, in fact, I have lots of women chasing after me, as do my other gay mates
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I’m the “anonymous” poster from earlier – “why am I a fag?” What a ridiculous question? I was born that way. We did not get “sucked into a lifestyle”, it’s just that we want to have sex with other men and not with women. That is what makes us fags.
Jesus, Americans! Americans aren’t happy until they can compartmentalise everyone.
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Then why so much effort at recruitment and bisexualizing society? Why do female personae cast such a long shadow over the gay culture? Why so much homosexuality in the Ancient world among otherwise heterosexual men? Why do men and women turn queer in prison if the innate capacity to do so were not already present? I never get a good answer on those questions. If homosexuality were genetic, these activities wouldn’t exist to the degree they do. Hence my skepticism of the genetic explanation.
I think gays are too hedonist to deal with womens’ gatekeeping and also have had a traumatic experience being raised by their mothers and are predisposed to avoiding women for subconscious reasons. I think they start fooling around with other boys and then talk themselves into it being a lifetime decision. I’ve made this same observation about women too. Its obvious to me that you have at least a passing curiosity for women because you’re here. Something about dealing with them must fascinate you.
[heartiste: it’s conceivable that a genetic and an environmental homosexuality can coexist.
re: the genetic/biological case: there have been studies showing gay men getting physiologically aroused from watching gay sex and straight men having no penile reaction watching the same.]
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“Why so much effort at recruitment and bisexualizing society?”
I don’t – all we want is to be left alone to fuck other men without being beaten up or having our windows broken
“Why do female personae cast such a long shadow over the gay culture?”
Only over certain aspects of the gay culture – again the camp queens like the feminisation, the butcher men (including me) are repulsed by it.
“Why do men and women turn queer in prison if the innate capacity to do so were not already present? I never get a good answer on those questions. If homosexuality were genetic, these activities wouldn’t exist to the degree they do. Hence my skepticism of the genetic explanation. ”
These questions have not been definitely answered. Regarding myself, I know that I was born gay because I have never had even the remotest sexual attaction for a woman – also, bear in mind that the gay lifestyle is one where we face constant abuse and discrimination – do you think that we’d choose that, even subconsciously? That I was born gay does not automatically follow that it is genetic – all I know is that I was born gay.
You think gays “are predisposed to avoiding women for subconscious reasons. I think they start fooling around with other boys and then talk themselves into it being a lifetime decision.”
I don’t avoid women, I just don’t want to fuck them.
Re. “fooling around with other boys” – chicken / egg / which / came / first?
“Its obvious to me that you have at least a passing curiosity for women because you’re here. Something about dealing with them must fascinate you.”
How is it obvious? I like this site because it is dealing with men’s issues – these are greater than the issue of sex and sexuality. Any passing curiosity I might have for women is natural because, er, they exist and we have to deal with them – see this blog’s post about “fathers with game” and the beta dad who was unable to deal with shrikey restaurant staff.
It’s not all sexual you know.
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Chris,
“Regarding myself, I know that I was born gay because I have never had even the remotest sexual attraction for a woman”
Maybe you will in the future. Who knows …
“also, bear in mind that the gay lifestyle is one where we face constant abuse and discrimination – do you think that we’d choose that, even subconsciously?
Yes. That’s exactly what I did. But changed my mind years later.
“That I was born gay does not automatically follow that it is genetic – all I know is that I was born gay.”
I believe that everyone was born gay (and straight as well). But that’s just one of the theories and probably more true for women than for men. Maybe you men really are different. I don’t know.
(ps. Heartiste if you want studies I’ll post links tomorrow if I find anything)
[heartiste: that’s not what i asked. in response to an assertion you made to the contrary, i said you have yet to provide links to any studies in any of your PREVIOUS comments. i then asked you for examples from comments you have already made because it was possible i missed a link you previously left.
i did not ask you to start trawling the net looking for studies that make you feel warm and cozy and then coming back to me to say “see? here they are!”
get it? or do i need a parade of kindergarten teachers to explain this to you?]
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I’ve heard this argument many times before and I still think it is mostly environmental or a personality disorder. I don’t have a big problem with gays, have partied with them many times and been hit on by them many times. They like big orgies of hedonistic splendor and women can’t handle that for one. I cans till remember the aprtment upstairs from us in college- all night kick boom routines and orgies to Donna Summer. But I deeply resent the media’s efforts to turn our society into a big bisexual love fest and portray the lifestyle as something everyone should try at least once. As a minimum, I think the shame is corrosive and that is a big reason for the genetic explanation, to create a rationalization. I’m fine with everyone leaving everyone else alone, but the real world doesn’t work that way.
Why all the grab assing and pseudo homosexual play in high school male locker rooms? Why have we been able to get girls to start doing the token lesbian routines to attract the best college men sexually? That didn’t exist 25 years ago, for instance, at least not anywhere near in the quantities it exists in now. If women can be turned out, so can men, it just takes more persuasion. That’s the gay lobby’s end state, no matter how much its denied. If all they wanted was to be left alone, they wouldn’t be actively undermining our culture as adamantly as they are. To me, this issue is a self reinforcing loop of denial, not unlike the rape fantasies women have but claim not to. I think Jung’s explanation of all humans being inherently bisexual, with one side or the other being emphasized due to environment is probably closer to the mark than many wish to believe. That, in turn makes it a question of personal choice.
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CH,
I’m not going to start searching the internet to find studies for my previous comments – I prefer to write new comments. So if you have problems with any of my current comments I can go and find studies just for you 🙂
[heartiste: in other words, you never posted any previous comments that contained “facts” or links to scientific studies backing up your “facts”.
glad to see that’s cleared up.
liar.]
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It is interesting that it’s commonly assumed that women are dykes because of bad parenting (abuse, typically), but oh, men gays are born that way. Maybe the men are also abused but they don’t talk about it as much.
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My hot eighteen-year-old daughter’s closest friends are gay boys that are an interesting study. They are, by and large, beta – but as you say they neg with the best.
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Many of the most alpha men I have ever met are gay
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ooo… ouch!
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I read a great article recently (can’t cite the source as it escapes me presently), in which a good argument was made that gay men function as a substitute for the non-sexual male roles that brothers and fathers used to play when families were more intact and functional. I think this carries weight as a partial explanation for why gays and gay issues have become so popular in recent years. At around 2% of the population gays are a statistical rounding error in the pantheon of human proclivities. Their issues and concerns are more mainstream because women from smaller, less functional families still have an inherent attraction to male vitality, which they find in gay men. Hence, women are driving the gay popularity train. By this argument gays aren’t necessarily the cause of family breakdown, but their popularity is certainly a symptom of it. An interesting idea.
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EXACTLY! This was my thought too.
Gay popularity a function of family breakdown.
[heartiste: that’s a decent theory, and one I would add to: namely, gay popularity among single women as a function of beta male emasculation.]
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Its also being encouraged to speed up family break down. Gramsci once again. These two phenomena feed each other.
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Wow! Someone knows Gramsci here. You are absolutely correct.
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Yes, there is a lot in this – as already agreed both in this post, earlier in the blog and in other places, the most butch men you will meet these days are fags. People like men who are dominant and unapologetic – hence the popularity of fags in the light of the decimation of heterosexual society (in particular the institution of marriage).
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Right !
Women have an on-off switch: the facade of sexy, unavaiable vamp sold by magazines, that they need for their monster egos, and the normal human beings behind it, the ones they show to friends and brothers.
They love the vanity of being desired, but deep inside they want a man who wants them for the real no-BS person she is. That’s what alphas do, they get behind the facade.
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It is a strange sensation — being approved by the fag friend. One actually said just within earshot of me, “Oh yes, I approve.” Fags are also depressive tragedians. They know they can’t have you, so they may want her to have you instead. If you are good-looking, depending on their character they will break one of two ways: pushing you two together (for vicarious pleasure in your value to him) or cock-blocking. I’ve never seen the latter happen, but it would follow from the dynamic. Sometimes the cunt so closely identifies with the fag (mostly true of cunts with low SMV) that he cock-blocks merely because she won’t detach herself.
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I’m not sure they (the gays or the alphas in question) are 100% outcome independent. If you tease, you probably care that the tease had some effect. When I don’t care about any outcome, I don’t talk to the person. There’d be no reason to.
I don’t mean to split hairs, but you gotta own up to caring about something when you interact with a person.
[heartiste: this is unnecessarily meta. the point is that men who are successful with women couch their intentions in the cloak of uncaring outcome independence. women eat it up.]
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I once worked with a gay guy who made the most outrageous ‘unprofessional’ comments to the women in the office. You could tell that they loved it. The drama, the don’t give a shit boldness. The skanky girl with too many kids was at times a ‘skanky ho’ (we knew it, she knew it and it was tragically funny to hear it). Most of the other women were at one time ‘moles’ or ‘old scrubbers’. Not once did one make some sort of formal complaint. Perhaps they were flattered to be included in the drama.
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“I once worked with a gay guy who made the most outrageous ‘unprofessional’ comments to the women in the office. You could tell that they loved it.”
But let you or I do it and we’ll be in HR so quick it’ll make your head spin.
That’s one reason women are cunts.
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Wrong. If you are an “alpha” you can make unprofessional comments all the time without consequences (except that it will make women fall in love with you).
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This explains why even before I knew anything about game I “mysteriously” did better with chicks – even “hot” ones – that had some minor feature that I find sufficiently unattractive to stop me thinking of them sexually for long enough to act “gay” around them. Like an otherwise attractive chick with too-big feet, or a masculine looking face, both of which I consider turnoffs.
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Fag hags are rejoicing! Great post.
I miss my dead gay friend. He was the best homo guy friend I ever had! He’d tell me off, set me straight, protect me from bad situations/pple, help me be not so serious as I tend to be too serious and pick out nice outfits for me.
I’d talk about serious issues and he’d cut me off and say, ‘shut up bitch.’ I loved the guy, he WAS HILARIOUS. My parents were puzzled at our relationship they liked he was a strong mean homo b/c they knew he’d not try to bang me but they felt straight men would run away when they saw us. I would classify him as a sigma but with his male bromances,he was a total beta (I’m not a Game expert so I could be wrong.)
He killed himself in 2002 b/c he is a Christian who couldn’t handle his proclivities, he felt that being dead was better than being torturing by brain chemistry. But suicides never go well, after shooting himself in the head, he failed, bled to death for 6 hours and was found a few days later. As a Christian, I hope to see him in heaven….His autopsy revealed that he had cancer and only had a year to live anyways. Tragic doesn’t even define the feelings…
My heart was broke, broken for years. I was 22 at the time and I stayed to myself up until maybe 2009 (hence eating up my 20’s). Around then I forced myself out of my solitary environments, began a blog, started socializing to some degree. I rediscovered that even in my introvertism, despite our fallen nature people can be kinda cool and maybe I need to unplug from my shyness and oneitis stuff.
The ISTJ in me, always wins. To this day I practice my oneitis and avoidance – after all, I wouldn’t want to ‘burden’ anyone….These days I walk by his grave during my power walking and thank God for the time I had with such a great friend with a dear heart.
Thanks for letting me vent, I rarely comment and appreciate the privilege. Happy new year.
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10/10 troll post.
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Agreed
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Heh:
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Didn’t we already have a post about this exact subject bringing the exact same points?
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2011/06/13/gay-men-have-game/
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And?
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it is not about game. It is about one single thing – hot chicks are not vitaly important for gay men. They are not the most important thing in their life. This is the difference between gay men and the most men in general – alpha or beta, it does not matter.There is no shortage of molested, beaten, domesticated and castrated alpha men in this world, my friends. Many of them were broken, ending their lives without purpose in loneliness. There is no shortage of alpha men behaving like poor slaves to their dicks without even realizing it.
Man LIKES women or he does not like women – it does not matter. But he does not NEED women. He could listen to the bullshit of hot women and help them IF HE wants. He could fuck them and leave them if he wants. He could do anything, provided HE wants. Not because it is valued by some poor chick with wet pussy. They can not move him, cos he already is what he is. They can not distract him, cos he is living his mission, deeply form his core and true to himself. They could not scare him, cos he is penetrating them with himself, with his strenght. For the MAN, women are children, inferior to himself. They do not have the power to direct his path. He is not projecting this thing, trying to be bad guy, he feels that way.
The key difference here is FREEDOM, which is the ultimate manliness. Of course such thing is very hard to attain. We are constructed to be slaves to women for evolutional reasons. Due to this fact 95 percent or more men are behaving like slaves for the whole life, without even realizing it. They are thinking that hey are alpha men and big bosses of the world, while in reality they are just doing things which are valued by women and trying not to do the opposite. Like monkeys. Women are their LORDS. All ancient civilizations were structured in a way to prevent this thing happen. Old guys knew very well how women would ensalve men, giving half a chance. So women were kept in line. Now it is actually happening. Enslavement. Men are abandonig freedom, honour, morals, honesty..just to fuck some wet hole. Btw: alpha men are often the biggest slaves. It is not their fault, they are constructed that way, in order to procreate, to serve to the bio-lord. So alpha or beta – if you are slave, it does not matter. You are male but definetly not the MAN. There is no difference between you and the monkey.
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That was gay.
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You guys are missing one things. What a woman gets from a gay man is CONFIDENCE. Gay guys have the brains of women but the confidence of men. The primary psychological point of neediness that women have for men is confidence and gay guys exude it. In fact, they exude it in a way that women understand better than they do straight male confidence. They manifest it in a bitchy, elitists sort of way. Straight men have no interest in this of course but women do.
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Can you write an article about the art of teasing. How do you develop these qualities.
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Got an email response to a CL personals posting where I asked what was so hot about Dr. House, that doctor character on TV.
The best answer I got is below:
“Why should bad boys appeal to so many women? A man knowing what he wants and being willing to go for it creates a certain feeling of security for a woman…even if the guy beats her up and drinks up the rent money. He is “ordering” things on the material level so her energy is free for reproduction…growth and defense being mutually contradictory at the cellular level. Perverse, but archetypally and neurologically for-real. “
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“even if the guy beats her up and drinks up the rent money”
“Make me a sandwich & suck my dick, or I’ll blacken your other eye”.
Riiiiiiiiiight. And these children want to be considered & treated as equals?
Bwahahahahaha!
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1) The idea of “genetic homosexuality” or “born gay” is utterly preposterous because they would have been rooted out of the genome. Homosexuality is a choice and bisexuality is common, but there is nothing whatsoever to suggest that the “girls have coodies and don’t arouse me and I REFUSE to procreate with them”. This is flying elephants, global warming, sasquatch style pseudo science. Never, and I mean fucking never, would such a trait ever survive in the genome.
[heartiste: maybe. but that’s why i wrote genetic/biological. whether it’s a gene thing or a prenatal hormone thing, the end result is the same: gays can’t help their sexual proclivity.]
2) homosexulaity is an infectious disease.
http://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/issues/99feb/germs.htm
more than likely it could be fucked up hormones, toxic poisoning, etc.. or just another cultural meme foisted by psycho cultural marxists hell bent on destroying civilization (like feminism, environmentalism, socialism, etc)
3) Hot chicks like gay men because they have no female friends. I don’t know what shit you’ve been smoking not to realize this. Try walking in NYC with a 10 and watch the bitch stares. Jealousy a bitch. Gay men think hot chicks are diva, but women hate feeling fat and ugly next to them.
[true but irrelevant. most chicks who have gay male friends also have girl friends, and they all hang out together.]
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Before they are 10 or 11, kids are not attracted to any sex. That’s plenty of time for lack of father love or abuse to imprint a need for male love.
This psychological need then turns to a sex addiction when the kid is seduced by an older gay man.
I know heteros who have 0% testosterone, with feminine gestures and a high pitch voice, and gays who are as macho as Navy Seals. Hormones don’t explain gay behavior.
It is psychological.
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Homosexuality is not genetic – it’s a state of the brain, parts of the brain, to be exact. Every (or at least a large percentage) of men and women are capable of both heterosexuality and homosexuality.
This survives in genome because of the flexibility. Men in (partial) homosexual mode can in some cases get women more easily and with less attachment, even if they enjoy them less (this “unfair competition” is acual reason why homosexuality is in many cultures ridiculed and homosexuals persecuted). Some men in homosexual mode have also the desire to avoid being “on the bottom”, even psychologically and even against heterosexuals, at all costs (gays are often more attracted to straights than other gays). Since they don’t emotionally want children, they don’t have a stake in stable future. In some cases this leads to appearance of people like Roehm and SA (of the Nazis), Spartans, terrorists (it’s claimed by several sources that Arafat, for example, was gay), … Let’s say that some gays take more drastic measures to avoid being beta than heterosexuals – being beta in male gay relationship is significantly less appealing than being beta in heterosexual relationship. This provides a function for warning to people who fail to transfer their culture to the children and challenging them to do better (failure of boy to identify with his father, for example because the father is not worth being identified with, being a leading cause of homosexuality).
It’s neccessary for all or most men to carry this capabilities, since if only some groups had it, they could be identified and exterminated. So it only shows up in some conditions.
As a computer nerd I would also say that this reduces the inventory of different components for a human. Sexuality is made in the brain. The male and female brains can have more common parts if the functionality gets configured “in the field” instead of being built-in.
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How many women with gay “boyfriends” could there be? Gay males make up, at most, 2% of the population, more likely 1-1 1/2%, and the majority of them probably have no interest in hanging around women. The number of women who spend any time at all with gay men must be exceedingly small, and concentrated in certain locales where such gay men are more fashion accessory than fascinating.
[heartiste: true. which highlights the fact that gay men, when they do have fag hags, have very hot girls for friends. so it is gays who have the market leverage to get the female friends they want, and/or it is hot chicks who most seek out the company of gay men.
and this reinforces the observation that hot chicks like the company of gay men because the gheys give them something they aren’t getting from most straight men… game.]
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Homosexuality is what happens when the strong tell the weak to fuck themselves.
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heartiste: maybe. but that’s why i wrote genetic/biological. whether it’s a gene thing or a prenatal hormone thing, the end result is the same: gays can’t help their sexual proclivity.]
Bullshit, it is a choice.
[heartiste: i dunno man. i’ve been around gay men (it happens when you date a lot of cute yuppie chicks) and i don’t get the sense they are choosing their sexual drives. it looks to me to be as ingrained as my drive to make sweet love with beautiful babes. coupled with the very noticeable difference in gay male mannerism, vocal tone, body language and interests — all things that are difficult to change consciously on a consistent basis, let alone subconsciously — the case for a biological foundation becomes stronger.
but, i’m open to reassessing if at some point the science uncovers some mysterious psychological warpage that is so powerful it can alter the target designation system of a man’s libido. i just have my doubts that this is the case.]
It is the fecundity hit from hell so your genes don’t want it.
[in some species, like ants, most males have no reproductive purpose, yet the species continues thriving. homosexuality is strange in that it seems to directly violate the gene’s primary directive, but i have read theories suggesting that the condition can survive in small numbers if it confers some other selective advantage, either to family members or itself.
it’s possible the “gay gene”, if it is a gene, is still with us because up until recently gay men had more offspring than straight men. it could also conceivably survive in the population if a parasite or hormonal imbalance causes it, or some prenatal environmental insult that is hard to eradicate or select against.]
Not to mention the filth and disease that accompanies it. If you have some bizarre environmental toxin or some disease that uses anal as a vector, it could cause immutable homosexuality, though. It goes alongside 40 year old voluntary spinsters… a freakish abomination of modernity unleashed by cultural marxists and a form of mental illness. It logically follows that they can be counter-programmed and de-brainwashed. Where were all the fags 70 years ago if it is natural?
[in the closet.]
Seems like an easy way for guys to get off unless we were fundamentally programmed against it.
[the weakness of the “easy way for guys to get off” theory is the mountain of observational evidence we have of undersexed beta and omega straight males who never turn to gay sex to get off, but instead struggle with their celibacy until fortune shines on them, or they off themselves, literally or metaphorically.
this is perfectly in line with a global theory that premises that the sex drive is primitive, powerful and biologically innate, and not amenable to alteration or fragmentation. if celibate heterosexual omegas won’t turn to gay sex to relieve themselves, then it stands to reason that gay men are not being prompted to sexual aberration by unhappiness with their choice or availability in women.
note: extreme environmental stress, like prison, could exert enough pressure to redirect the male sex drive to male anus. but outside of those pressure-cooker ecosystems and back in the normal world where most people live, celibate straight betas never turn to manhole to drain their blue balls.]
this article goes in depth, and is a must read and covers my back.
http://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/issues/99feb/germs.htm
Something I never hear you talk about is female jealousy of men. We are competitors in school and in the workforce, so it is stupid to lead with your ivy degree and your mid six fig salary cause bitches get all insecure. Part of the reason women loathe beta males is that they are often more successful and harder working than they are.
[women don’t envy men who are harder working and more successful than themselves. but they do admire them, and even get turned on by them.
anyhow, the guys women fall for are often — not always — more successful than the betas who offer shoulders to cry on.]
In families, control freak envy moms are often jealous that the kids like Daddy better, Daddy has the cool job, etc.
[but this isn’t driven by envy of dad’s success or status. it’s a reaction to not getting the love she needs from her kids. she then lashes out at her hubby for being the one to “steal” that love away.]
This also explains the anomaly of Alphas getting cheated on/rejected, etc..
[no one here claims alphas never get cheated on. but alphas get cheated on less frequently than betas or omegas get cheated on, and for different reasons. women who cheat on alphas do so because the alpha has not showered her with all the love she wants from him. which is the opposite of the reason why women cheat on betas.]
and why women like gay men, who are nonthreatening.
[gay men may be sexually less threatening, but they are more SOCIALLY threatening. and that’s the main reason why hot chicks love them. they love the social drama and the negs.]
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Trust me, being gay is not an easy way to get sex – gay scene venues abound with unhappy, frustrated men who are unable to get laid – for much the same reason as happens with str8 betas
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Chris:
I’ve given you a hard time more than once. Truth be told, I think you’re an ok guy and provide good insight on this blog. I’ll buy you a beer next time I’m in Dublin.
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Chris:
I’ve given you a hard time more than once. Truth be told, I think you’re an ok guy and provide good insight on this blog. I’ll buy you a beer next time I’m in Dublin.
*** Can’t say I’ve noticed. Check out gay chatrooms to see people giving each other a hard time, particularly the British fag sites. I would classify your remarks as fair comment – I don’t have to agree with them for them still to be fair. In free societies we’re allowed to disagree with one another.
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Gay men are mean to women. My girlfriend told me the last time she saw her gay friend, the first words out of his mouth were, “Your hair is too short, and your skirt is too long.”
I have never once been jealous of a man. It doesn’t even make sense.
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it’s sad when straight men need to pay attention to gay men to learn how to deal with women, but even sadder when women need to pay attention to gay men to learn how to be women.
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This
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We loath beta males because they lack courage.
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Betas can be as courageous as alphas under pressure, or when necessary. They just don’t know how to convey that they can potentially be tough. Learning how to convey that is part of game.
It would be easier if all women stopped sending mixed signals about how they want to be treated nicely… but then you will only have a male population of cads.
It’s a delicate equilibrium. I understand that unveiling the ugly machinations of the sexual market can make men *loathe* women just as much, because you need to alternate between both types of males to achieve reproducive success.
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Alphas get cheated on when they marry sluts.
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yeah, because the gays are such a positive enhancement to family structures and to national security (go to the spy museum, most of those spies were gays).
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“if it is a gene, is still with us because up until recently gay men had more offspring than straight men.”
How is it possible for gay men to have more offspring?
[heartiste: by sticking their dicks in vaginas and having more kids than the average straight man.
but then you wonder in your wee peabrain how gay men would have sex with women, completely overlooking the obvious that history is full of stories of gay men hiding their proclivities and taking on wives as “beards”, something which must have been very common throughout recorded history.
but, hey, it’s the maya we’ve come to know and mock!]
I doubt that 100 000 years ago anyone forced gay men to get married.
[evolution can happen must faster than that. look at the difference between africans and asians. they are only separated by ~60K years.]
“the weakness of the “easy way for guys to get off” theory is the mountain of observational evidence we have of undersexed beta and omega straight males who never turn to gay sex to get off, but instead struggle with their celibacy until fortune shines on them, or they off themselves, literally or metaphorically.”
Most men never turn to gay sex because of their (internalized?) homophobia
[no, dummy, that’s just something dumbass leftists who deny human nature say. straight men never turn to gay sex in a normal environment because they find the thought of it viscerally repulsive.
it’s got nothing to do with what mommy will think.]
“gay men may be sexually less threatening, but they are more SOCIALLY threatening. and that’s the main reason why hot chicks love them.”
Gay men are not socially threatening. They are just fun. And I think most girls (hot and less hot) love gay men.
[in womanese, fun = socially threatening. that is, women like a bit of edge to their men, and gay men give them that. all niceness, all the time, makes jane a very bored girl.
and it’s my observation that it’s the hotter chicks who really lap up the negs and insulting attention from gays.
ps any more comments from you on this thread will be deleted, because your stupidity is really beginning to stink up the place.]
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Don’t get hung up on the time requirement for evolution to magically create a behavioral trait (my ancestors musta been hella smart for them to figure out all this social stuff and embed it my genes).
Anyway….maya’s and host’s comments are interesting (prob not to host) but FWIW, I read that the Catholic Church’s “single” vocation, recognizing that people don’t want to get married was actually a big step forward because most societies forced the pair bond on to people, there weren’t spinsters and bachelors back in the day. so, there’s that. Don’t have the citation anymore but imagine that, back in the day being forced to be wed.
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I think that has more to do with the lack of clergy available. Priests were expensive and only big towns and up had them. In the Middle Ages, common law marriages were common among the peasantry. I’m sure it has most to do with the church wanting to enforce a patriarchal social structure and to raise the level of civilization among the peasantry. The church waged a constant subliminal war with the nobility to raise the level of civilization in Europe. Nobles spent most of their time fighting one another, to the point that it prevented civilization from advancing. Most modern populist interpretations of Catholic Church policy in the Middle Ages is distorted by modern biases.
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Homosexuality is very common but sub rosa in Muslim societies, especially Mediterranean ones. There is a huge divide between their official mores and what is tolerated behind closed doors for men. In Afghanistan, the saying is that boys are for pleasure and women are for breeding. Watch the documentary “The Dancing Boys of Kandahar” for an eye opener. I think there might be some genetic pre-disposition to homosexuality, but I reject it being a purely genetic phenomenon in the absence of stronger evidence. Its been common in too many societies for the tendency to be gay to be purely genetic. It was Christianity and Roman contempt for the practice that made it taboo in the West. Camille Paglia’s hypotheses on the subject are most accurate, I believe.
[heartiste: yes, i’ve read about the rampant pedolove in the muslim stans. i question how widespread the practice really is. as far as i know, there haven’t been any serious sociological studies of sexual practices in that part of the world. nevertheless, i don’t think it’s inaccurate to say that a genetic/biological homosexuality can coexist with an environmental/social homosexuality. that is, all acts of homo love are not necessarily genetic or biological in origin. it could very well be the case that the social system of backward shitholes like afghanistan encourages the taking of young boy ass for sexual release by adult men.
the point being, if you remove all those socially-mediated cases, you would likely still be left with a 2-3% baseline rate in intractable homosexuality, such as what we see in the developed countries today. this rate hasn’t moved much over the generations. it is in these gay men that the cause of their sexual predilection probably resides in some physiological vector the expression of which is immune to environmental intervention.]
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i question how widespread the practice really is. as far as i know, there haven’t been any serious sociological studies of sexual practices in that part of the world.
Fortunately the academics [i.e. leftists with an unassailable god complex] don’t have long-term intimate access to the tribes of lower Afghanistan and upper Pakistan, so the matter remains exaggerated in sporadic media reports, as with much of South Asian bedroom habits. A bodybuilding club will become an Athenian gymnasium in their fecophilic imagination; an old, faded, curling poster of Arnold as Mr. Universe becomes a masturbatory aid.
There are also reports of T-Bone [i.e. Pashtun tribesmen and opium smugglers] entertaining themselves with dancing boys. Then there is evo psych’s theory that terrorists are typically males coming from the lower class, i.e. without access to women.
it could very well be the case that the social system of backward shitholes like afghanistan encourages the taking of young boy ass for sexual release by adult men.
It certainly happens, as buggery was not long ago associated with Mexico. Today you go to Tijuana for a booze; in the seventies you went for some underage culo chico. Same “repressed” society. Women indoors. But mark well the implication of the aforementioned hearsay: it is again the alphas of the tribe or gang — the boss and his immediate subordinates — who enjoy the full range of pleasures offered by their boys.
On the other hand, if you search around Flickr for example, you’ll find a ton of photos [I believe by some self-important homosexual called Firoze Shakir] of Indian heejdas / transsexuals. There is a large heejda festival in some city there, I forget, and it is well known for ugly desperate young mass-men trolling for the nearest thing to a pretty female for intercrural sex. It is fascinating, and I won’t shy from saying a few of these dudes are not unattractive.
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I’m told its pretty common in the Middle East and anecdotal evidence as well asm personal observation indicates to me that the level of homosexuality exceeds 50% in those societies. I wasn’t in Turkey 2 hours before some big hairy dude was asking me to go back to his place to let him buttfuck me at this little place I stopped in near our hotel fora beer.
Well you know that Ernst Roehm was a big sodomite, no doubt. He had a group of top SA men that would use party money to rent entire hotels and have big gay bashes. Roehm frequently reeked of perfume as well. This is the true reason for the elimination of the SA. They knew too much about Hitler, who was known to attend these bashes. Hitler was also queer- it was documented by both his Company commander and First Sergeant in WWI and is the reason he was never promoted past corporal. He was not recommended for NCO training due to his “homosexual proclivities” and his First Sergeant was on record as complaining about Hitler being an outcast in the company because of his constant association with his “Manwhore.” While in Vienna, Hitler also lived together with Ernst August Kubiszec and Kubiszec’s biography alluded to a homosexual relationship.
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I might also add that Turkey has legal prostitution and some smoking hot women- although its not well known. The most beautiful woman I’ve ever seen was in Turkey and she was a local.
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exerts no influence on gay men’s emotional states, except in a distantly abstract aesthetic sense, like one might feel admiring a pleasing artwork.
Hahahahaha…after eight years in Asia I feel the same way about white women. No cock movement at all, no matter how “hot” she is. It’s funny because it’s true.
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I have a feeling pee-pee would more accurately described yours.
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LOL LOL LOL
Wow, that was an amazingly crafted attack. Ouch! This totally reverses my opinion of foreign women!
I wasn’t joking about the “she’s beautiful…but as a piece of art” standard. No cock movement at all.
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“gays are totally relaxed around very good-looking girls. Women’s beauty — the prime vector inducing stammering, stuttering, stressing and pants loading in straight beta males — exerts no influence on gay men’s emotional states, except in a distantly abstract aesthetic sense, like one might feel admiring a pleasing artwork.”
Simple answer. He’s not trying to get in her pants.
Same reason I’m totally relaxed around ALL of my friends, men & women included.
I’m not tyring to get in thier pants.
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It’s funny you bring this up because I was thinking the same thing. I’m gay and I love to “neg” girls, especially the pretty white ones who are usually so full of themselves.
When you had the picture up a few days ago with the three girls in the club, I INSTANTLY knew what I would do.
First, I would make a comment in the general vicinity of the attention whore displaying her cooch (but not making eye contact with her) like “whoooo smells like a fish market in here!”
The two other girls might put up a fuss, but only superficially, because they would be delighted that I am putting attention whore in her place. Then to open the conversation, I would ask if they are from out of town. It doesn’t matter if they are or not… this may pique their curiosity. They will wonder if they look out of place, and if one of them asks why I thought they might be tourists, I would say “oh because you are taking so many pictures.” (Really, I would say “because you look like you are from Cleveland” but that would be too bitchy for straight guys.) It’s really just a way to get the conversation going.
If I wanted to hook up with the girl in the white dress, I would initially focus my attention on the girl on the right. This will bring out the competitiveness in white dress. She will think “I’m hotter than that bitch! Why is that douchebag talking to her and not me? Maybe he thinks he doesn’t have a chance with me because I’m too hot for him. I think I will start being nice to him just to piss off that little cunt.” Then when she softens up for you go in for the kill.
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A big reason for my position on this subject is the fact that in my office we have two homos who are likely heterosexual betas that crossed over to the dark side. They are a couple and literally go everywhere and do everything together. Both like women, both have difficult relationships with their mothers and sisters. Both have become ingrained in the habit of their relationship. Both are low key and not obviously gay.
We recently got a new woman in the office and the junior partner of the two flirted heavily with her for the first several days, but the senior partner put the kabosh on it forthwith. The same thing happened with Clyde Tolson, J. Edgar Hoover’s lover. He tried to get married once, but Hoover forced Tolson to break off the engagement. So my point is, that many of the homosexuals we know in our society are really exactly those beta and omega males who fail with women described above. They are simply not obvious about it but avoid the gay scene.
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It’s genetic.
Like w/ sickle cell, if you inherit from one parent but not the other, you get immunity from malaria w/ no drawbacks; if you inherit it from both parents, you get sickle cell anemia, and you’re fucked. The benefit keeps it going, the drawback limits its incidence.
Similarly w/ homo; if inherit from one parent but not the other, you’re bisexual and have a higher chance of reproducing than hetero. If you inherit the homo gene from both parents, you’re gay and don’t reproduce. So, both bi and homo are evolutionarily stable.
Ref: Sperm Wars, by Robin Baker.
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By your logic, hetersexuality would have died out years ago. Fail.
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I’m seeing a lot of “Gays choose to be gay” type comments here. This seems ridiculous. Arousal causes physiological changes in your body. Seeing attractive women naked raises my heart rate, causes blood to flow to my junk, and causes a general switching off of brain function (recovering beta). Female arousal has, more or less, the same physiological response. I can acknowledge that a guy is good looking but at no point do I get flustered around them and start to get a rod. If you are a male and women make your dick hard then you are straight. If you are a male and titties do nothing for you but the though of a cock gets you hard then you are gay.
People need to ignore all of the perceived “social destruction” that homosexuality causes and just accept that it happens. I think it makes a lot of people uncomfortable and therefore feel that its wrong and people shouldn’t do it. It does make me uncomfortable to see guys kissing but it also makes me uncomfortable to see fat straight people kissing. At no point should either of these groups not have the right to do it. At the end of the day if a chick wants to eat a box or a dude wants to suck a cock it doesn’t affect your life in the slightest.
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GAY AND PROUD! LETS STICK TOGETHER!!
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Ok, enough blablabla, now tell us how to use the gay friends to our advantage?
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Gays actually choose to be gays. It’s not phsyiological, but it’s an operating mode of the parts of the brain (there are men who get physically aroused by women, but are emotionally attracted to men – I guess these are able to have sex with largest numbers of women, since they have the advantage described here and they can also trivially avoid developing emotional bonds after sex).
The problem is that proper initialization to heterosexual mode requires the presence of positive male role models in childhood before sexual activation in adolescence (it can reset later also). This is why the main cause of homosexuality is failure to bond with the father in the childhood. There’s many literature out there about that.
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It’s pretty simple to me. Women are fascinated by promiscuous men, be they straight or gay, because they are actively sexual and have thus been preselected. The fact that gay men are having unproductive sex in futility at the risk of contracting and/or spreading disease is not relevant to how they will make a women ‘feel’. Remember, chicks don’t do logic.
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Anytime you have a debate on homosexuality, you always get some fag saying “I was born this way” (they like quoting Lady Gaga) and because that has been their experience, they assume its the same way for all queers. I’ve been lectured to so many times about how its not a choice, although I know of psychiatrists who say in private that homosexuality is a treatable condition, but in such a politically correct society as the one in which we live, they dare not say this kind of thing publicly.
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Women love the insults for a few reasons. One being that it validated her incredibly LOW or NONE existent opinion of herself. Ultimately women do NOT want to be treated well, they want to be put down no matter how hot they are. They consider this fun, but all the while growing up guys hear how other guys who do this are “mean, nasty, cruel”.. labels that most guys do not want to hear a woman say to them because we’re taught to “be nice, give a shit, treat her well”.. all by feminism mind you.
So when boys hear girls constantly using those labels, he often strives to be different from those guys that she’s complaining about. Of course we did notice, and got incredible confused by it.. a state that most men ABHOR.. that the same boys she was calling mean were the same ones she was dreaming about and dating. Little did men know just HOW fucked up, backwards, hypocritical, confused, deluded and how much lying incorrect bullshit girls and women actually spew out of their mouths from the time they’re born. If we did, we too would have totally ignored everything that came out of their mouths, told them off, smacked their asses when we wanted and TOLD them.. hey, I’m going out to the movies tonight and you’re coming with me, like our instincts wanted to say but we were told countless times by society, TV, our mothers and other girls spewing the same feminist bullshit that “girls don’t want to be treated that way” or “That’s mean, not nice” or some other complaint oriented bullshit.
After a man gets dicked over, dumped, his heart ripped out numerous times and then he learns what TOTAL HORSESHIT feminism really is and how fucked up a woman’s mind and corrupt heart really are… he starts to treat her the way that all those asshole guys she complained about and called mean, a jerk, asshole treat her, because he now realizes that when she says that, despite the fact that she is using a NEGATIVE WORD or negative phrase, she actually means it in a positive way. As I said….backwards and fucked up.
Women think they’re such great communicators yet they use the opposite words and phrases to what they really mean, use “beat around the bush” techniques that force you to try and guess, mind read or intuit what she REALLY means because she thinks in her delusions that the more accurately you know what she really mean by her purposely ambiguous hints and incorrect phrases, the more you are connected to her and thus the more you MUST care, she so wrongly concludes but never figures this out.
Of course that’s because she’s not trying to actually FIGURE out anything because a woman’s “mind” doesn’t work in terms of logic, mathematics or problem solving, thus there really IS no figuring going on at all….just feelings and relying on whatever her hormones, first thoughts aka intuition and of course her gf’s, Magazines, romance novels and her womans studies classes TELL her she should “think” or feel.
Women seek out men who treat them the way that SHE feels she deserves to be treated. Since nearly all women have such horribly low or even zero self esteem both because of their own internal lack of faith, confidence or inherent nature, and because of society always telling them they’re not good enough in one form or another, they automatically seek out men who VALIDATE their own views of themselves. That’s because women TRUST 100% blindly in their own feelings because women don’t actually think, they just instantly respond via hormones and feelings and whatever their emotions or “intuition” so they think, tells them.
Any man that treats a woman well, especially a hot woman as most are even more insecure than average, he actually makes her FEEL more insecure because her feelings are telling her she deserves to be treated like crap, but here he is treating her well. Also women have this idea that any man that treats her well has some ulterior motive, despite hearing over and over and over again that men should be “nice” to a woman and “treat her well”. But then when a man does, he gets accused of having some ulterior motive, wtf! Yea, his ulterior motive is to date her, go out with her, show her love, make love to her and hopefully marry her.. that’s the ulterior motive most nice guys have. Meanwhile the uncaring, selfish, asshole jerks whom she SO PRIZES ARE the ones with the actual ulterior motive because they’re the ones that ARE only interested in getting in her pants and nothing more..freaking duh… as I said, backwards!!
Since women trust their feelings totally, the nice guy actually makes her feel uncomfortable and invalidates her own trust IN her feelings because her feelings TELL her she should be verbally and emotionally abused, even physically abused. So she seeks out men who treat her just like that because she then says to herself “See, I knew that I was unworthy and deserved to be treated like crap”. Though she might not actually or ever say that to herself consciously, that is how she feels internally.
Thus he confirms her own low or horrible feelings about how she should be treated. Then some wonder why I say most women today need therapy almost from the time they’re born. They’re just such a jumble of fucked up emotions, confusing, hypocrisy, blindness, illogic, living in closed worlds of their own creation where they’ve made up their own rules and reality, low self esteem, feeling corrupted, disconnected, lacking consciousness and many even feeling flat out evil lurking inside them.
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