Over at Steve Sailer’s, there’s a discussion going on about Japan’s slow economic growth and aging population not reflecting the reality of good living standards on the Japanese ground, something that you will rarely see addressed by mainstream American economists with their corporatist agendas to push. This comment by Anonymous is insightful:
It’s about “Who, whom?” as usual.
Foreign investors i.e. American hedge funds, banks, etc. don’t like Japan because Japan’s real estate and financial markets have been flat. That’s what’s meant by “lost decade”. It’s not that it’s been that bad for ordinary Japanese, what’s been “lost” is the opportunity for these foreign investors to make capital gains and extract more money out of Japan for themselves.
What the foreign investors wanted was for Japan to sell its people out and gin up its real estate and financial markets by things like immigration population growth.
A flat, low real estate and financial market is not necessarily a bad thing for your ordinary citizens. It keeps the costs down for your ordinary citizens to buy.
This applies not only between foreign investors and ordinary Japanese, but also between Wall St. and ordinary American citizens in fly-over country.
Everyone has their interests. Bankers (cue lzzlollzzlol) and realtors rely on the churn created by population growth and demographic shift (in the US’s case, stimulated by massive open borders immigration) to line their pockets beyond any reasonable value they create for society. Academics, as well, profit from the globalist program: hollowing out the status and pay of blue collar, working class jobs by advocating for the importation of millions that will not directly compete with their own elevated sinecures has helped energize a rush of fearful mediocrities into college, diluting the brand but fattening the wallets of the robber profs.
There is no doubt this strategy by the elite (or 1%ers, if you will) has been sound, from their perspective. Undercutting wage labor and inflating real estate values through diversity lending and the exploitation of the ancient human tribal instinct to agglomerate into ever-smaller cordoned enclaves of fellowmen has boosted corporate profit margins and enriched the coffers of institutional investment houses.
A good faith economist — someone who’s willing to buck received wisdom — will question the assumption that economic and population growth is an unalloyed good. Or that human capital isn’t constrained by innate preconditions, on both an individual level and a group level. Or that human behavior often manifests irrationally from an economic point of view, and can’t be “fixed” without incurring hefty costs.
Japan may be aging and they may be naughty for not throwing open their borders to tens of millions of non-Japanese to spur real estate bubbles, but from reports on the ground, it sounds like life over there is pretty good for the average Japanese. Maybe America could learn a thing or two about the benefits of lost decades.

They don’t have the real estate to spare, even if, like the West, they were burdened with an untoward number of idiots and Fifth Columnists preaching “Diversity Is Strength” (War Is Peace, Slavery Is Freedom… sound familiar?).
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After WW2 we rebuilt Japan in our own image, but a better version of ourselves. Now, as we crumble into mediocrity, Japan remains strong and relatively healthy.
Too bad we can’t rebuild ourselves in our own image back in 1945.
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What’s this “we rebuilt” shit?
Providing money and a hand up is one thing… but it’s the Germans and Japanese that rebuilt themselves.
We’ve thrown a whole helluva bigger assload of cash at, for example, Negroes in this country… and the cities continue to decay… and private armies are going to have to be built fast than private schools.
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Amen. Japanese people worked HARD to get where they are today. Some still do. But like the US, the greed & debts of its Entitlement Generation have busted the National Credit Card. Young people do not have much to look forward to, paying off all of their short-sighted, deluded parents’ mistakes.
People make the difference. Japanese at least have the intelligence & cooperation to make a go of it. America is going the way of the Congo.
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I don’t know if this is true, but if it is it says something about Japanese culture:
According to a government survey, more than a quarter of unmarried men and women between the ages of 30 and 34 are virgins.
http://bonald.wordpress.com/2012/01/06/the-tragedy-of-our-age/#comment-6394
Most of women I’ve known who have stayed virgins until their late 20s/early 30s have been religious. The only non-religious girls I’ve ever heard of being virgins that late have been Asians.
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I don’t agree much with the economics that you espouse on posts like that, especially concepts like ‘rationality’ – seems like make a value judgement of the outcome of a given action to qualify it as rational or irrational, when all human action is rational in the sense that it is purposeful, or aimed to achieve a specific end.
Also, economic growth IS always a good thing. Problem is, in the mainstream economic thought certain increases in aggregates like GDP are considered growth, when a sensible person or a person with a grasp of non-mainstream economics sees only waste. Take the US housing bubble; a Paul Krugman would call the boom period while people were mindlessly building houses everywhere a GOOD thing i.e. ‘growth’, while an Austrian economist would point out that that is the part where the malinvestments are being made and the real damage to the economy is being done.
Finally, while massive immigration could cause an increase in housing prices due to this spike in demand, that would not cause a housing bubble since that price increase was caused by a REAL demand backed by the productivity of these new actors in the economy. The bubble in the US was fueled by paper money, pure inflation if you will. So when people realized they were building houses that nobody was going to buy, the whole castle of cards came crashing down.
I really think you should get a good book on Austrian economics and read up. You will be pleasantly surprised by how fundamentally different it approaches the problem from the other schools who get more media and academic attention.
Cheers!
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I largely agree with Marco on the housing part. Funny, back
in the roaring 80s, all the hue and cry was about “affordability”,
well now “affordability” has been somewhat restored and everybody
is crying. It all depends on whether you see yourself as a prospective
buyer or a prospective seller, doesn’t it?
And yes, people obnoxiously tend to value some things that the
theorists don’t think the “should” value. Tough!
But the biggest culprit behind the housing bubble is the US Fedgov,
which did
a) Provide superlow supereasy credit through, Fan, Fred and FHA.
b) Insist on “diversity”, forcing the banks to make loans they otherwise
would not have made to some select group of people (and I mean
a LARGE group in absolute numbers, not the friends of Angelo.
c) The mortgage deduction is another hot potato, I am for and
against it on alternate days.
Thor
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Is it a difference between Non-Jews and jews views?
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Let’s see what happens when the working population continues declining, relative to pensioners.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aging_of_Japan
Not arguing for any outcome, but let’s see what happens. Should be interesting.
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A society where most manual labour and much of the service economy (think hairdressers and taking care of elderly people or driving a truck) is replaced by robotics. Things like driving a cab for a living will be history in mere decades:
Twenty years after this happens in Japan and the technology becomes cheaper and more reliable they can grow rich exporting those robots first to the US then Europe (which will be later because of silly legislation trying to save jobs) and then China (which will soon be as old as the West but will still be poorer and will only be able to afford these things later).
But unlike Japan and China the US and Europe will have a angry mob of young jobless McDonalds/fruit pickers/taxi drivers/maid proles that wil probably “aggressively enrich” and “proactivley redistribute wealth” from those liberal upper middle class enclaves.
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I dig the post, but: “it sounds like life over there is pretty good for the average Japanese.” is total bullshit. Japan has a massive cost of living, in Tokyo its not uncommon to travel 2 hours EACH WAY to get to work due to extreme cost of real estate.
Japan is breeding itself out of existence due to an abysmal fertility rate which is going cause a massive fall in the worker:retiree ratio which will increase the cost of social, healthcare and pension spending will causing a fall in tax receipts. Japan’s population will halve by 2100. This massive depopulation is also occuring in South Korea, Germany, Italy and all over Eastern Europe. Their population is literally shrinking, and this will have a negative impact on living standards and their government’s ability to avoid running budget deficits.
Countries which are bucking this trend and having around 2 children include: Australia, the U.K, the Nordic countries, New Zealand, France and the U.S.A (the later two due to a high immigrant birthrate).
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I don’t know. The size of the average Tokyo apartment is allegedly really tiny.
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Good news: As old people and there aren’t many young people on a overcrowded island apartments get cheaper.
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Where here “apartment” is a Japanese slang for penis…
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100% true. The quality of life in the Japanese cities is much higher than in US cities, which are basically just refugee camps and uninhabitable by natives except for those with the means to purchase segregation from majority of the population.
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The Japanese have it good only for as long as they keep believing they will be paid back the money they lent their government to build bridges to nowhere. When that bubble bursts, the Japanese will have it good only as long as they enjoy working until they literally drop.
1% interest rates don’t last forever. And 5% interest rates means default when your debt is several times GDP, and GDP, because of a shrinking population, is declining. Say what you want about foreign investors motives, but the Nips are F’d regardless.
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You don’t understand how money works.
The money doesn’t have to be paid back. National governments do not borrow money. They create money through deficit spending, and use taxes to destroy it (and hence curb inflation). The issuance of bonds allows a government to change the terms and value of currency as it relates to international trade. Japan has a large debt because they are an export-driven nation.
The capital projects were created through standard deficit spending.
Money is a social tool, it is not a thing.
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Someone’s been reading Cullen Roche!
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I thought the same. I like von Mises better. Paul Krugman seems to borrow a lot from Cullen too.
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I’m not able to clearly visualize that.
What I do when I try to see money is to visualize incentive to productive labor.
When I do that I see money is not a thing – it’s an incentive. The thing is productive labor. We can devalue currencies and blow up and burst investment bubbles and create deficits too large to ever pay back. None of that is the thing. The thing is keeping incentives for production.
Isn’t this what creates war time prosperity? People who were otherwise sitting on their ass are now incentivized into the collective effort. War bonds are spent on creating war technologies and war factories. Then the labor of those people is used to pay back the war bonds. You incentivize labor, and use money as a tool to do so. First sell bonds for a bridge, then give someone money to build the bridge, then tax the bridge with tolls to pay back the bond holders. Money in that never needed to exist – the only function of it is to get people off their ass to be productive.
And this leads us to the bigger picture. Productive for whom? If you look at real estate prices, it seems that a class of people are benefiting from stores of value having inflated prices. If you must pay a big portion of your labor towards rent, the landlords benefit. And if you must pay a big portion towards your mortgage, the bankers plus the previous land speculators whom you purchased from benefit.
A big proportion of labor is getting funnelled through to a minority, the way the system is set up.
Instead of follow the money, the visualization I use is to follow the labor.
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Good luck with that philosophy there, chief.
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Anonymous.
The problem is that any money is a form debt. A dollar is borrowed into existence. And there is always more debt outstanding than money in circulation. So for money to increase, debt must increase, and the economy must increase.
And to increase the economy, productivity OR population must increase.
If productivity or population is stagnant or declining, government will increasingly fund itself via printing money. This will lead to hyperinflation.
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Actually, no. Gold and silver coins are not – witness the fact
that if the issuer ceases to exist, the coins keep their value.
Thor
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Precious metals of the future: lead and brass… conjoined.
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One issue they are facing already is a large percentage of their population retiring. Now my father in law and mother in law have both worked jobs for many years after turning 65, but they aren’t full time anymore. These are more neighborhood level jobs.
The bigger issue is the number of workers needed to help the really old people. There aren’t enough children willing to make the sacrifices needed to take care of their parents, nor strangers willing to take it for low wages. But they’ll muddle through somehow. They will just have to be willing to put up with a lower standard, but one still much higher than the majority of the world dreams of having.
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The “But they live so well!” argument is not persuasive. It’s often applied to Europe too, usually because the person making the argument has only visited as a tourist. Grand avenues! Beautiful buildings! Culture on every corner! Or in Tokyo’s case, glittering signs! First-rate technology! Do these people look like an aging, hollowed-out shell of a civilization to you?!
The reality is that Japanese and Europeans live measurably worse in many ways that are not immediately apparent to the casual visitor. The average Japanese has a mere fraction of the living space that Americans enjoy. Sure, you can argue that Americans don’t “need” that much space, but all things being equal, more living space means a better life than less living space. Most Japanese don’t have a car. Maybe they don’t need one as much (due to different transport options) but even high-functioning public transport is pretty generally less desirable than your own personal vehicle, complete with privacy and self-entertainment. Their food is consistently more expensive, and they eat out less. Etcetera.
None of that is to say that you can’t be happy, or even happIER, living like a Japanese person or a European. By many accounts, Japanese are quite happy, and derive a lot of satisfaction from their relatively homogenous and socially and racially cohesive traditional society. But most Americans who say “See, why wouldn’t you want to be more like [Low-Growth Socialist Paradise]?” count on their audience never actually having had the experience of living in a 320 square foot Vienna flat on the fourth floor, with a roommate, with a bathtub but no shower, not owning a car, preparing all your own meals over a tiny gas ring, or even understanding that such differences exist.
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Exactly my observation after living in Germany 23 years. Well said. A 1000 sf apartment is considered big in Germany, large enough for a 3-4 member family. Most people don’t make much money either. Nor is their pension system any more secure.
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Well there are also small towns and suburbs in Germany you can just as well live there and commute like millions of Americans. It’s a lifestyle choice. German cities just aren’t as bad, you can live in a neighborhood that isn’t that expensive and still not run the risk of getting shot at.
I think poor people are a bit better off in most European countries. The middle class (or what’s left of it) is doing a bit worse. The wealthy always do well and those with high incomes also have a shot at that.
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Europeans had the great advantage of not having NAMs, but now the idiots are and have been for a couple of decades copying American leftists in our academia and media in celebrating mass “diversity” (third world immigrants, from asylum seeking liars to straight up illegals).
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I can’t believe I’m reading this nonsense.
Apartments in Tokyo are no smaller than in New York City. They are in many cases actually larger. All you have to do is look at what the youth are doing – they aren’t clammering to buy your house. They are doing what you deplore – packing into cramped apartments in Brooklyn.
And you clearly didn’t read the article. For the Japanese, personal transportation is for FUN. It is not so you can get to and from your house and job. There are all sorts of awesome motorcycles, and as the article says – many fancy cars. More than in the US.
Your post just represents a weird, temporary blip in human history. The suburban model is dead.
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Apartments in Tokyo smaller than NYC? Unlikely, and they are certainly not cheaper on a cost per sqr foot basis.
Plus, this might come as a shock to you, but NYC is not the entire United States. Once you get out of the idiotic leftist coastal cities, the cost of living in the United States is a fraction of Japan. You can realistically trader your wages for much lower prices and come out ahead. That’s not going to happen in Japan. The vast majority of Americans still raise their families in separated houses. I’m pretty sure that’s not the case in Japan.
Also, good luck learning game if you cannot provide privacy. It’s supposedly possible, but the hill you will climb is massively steeper.
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Tokyo apartments are definitely smaller than those in NYC. Much smaller in fact.
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I can’t believe I’m reading this nonsense.”
Neither can I
Apartments in Tokyo are no smaller than in New York City.”
Granted,the example of Tokyo(one of the highest real estate values in the world) is an unfair one to Japan but to compare it to NYC to prove your point?Dont you see the irony?
Furthermore how many major cities doesJapan have vs those U.S has.
Are rents is Osaka and Kyoto that much lower than Tokyo?
All you have to do is look at what the youth are doing – they aren’t clammering to buy your house. They are doing what you deplore – packing into cramped apartments in Brooklyn. ”
It would probably require an entire newsletter to dissect the stupidity,ignorance and baseless assertions in those statements.Ill leave that to others.
Last time I checked,U.S is one of the largest countries in the world.Japan is not.
For the Japanese, personal transportation is for FUN. ”
If being packed in a subway like sardines in a can is their idea of fun,then more power to them.
The suburban model is dead.”
The viability of suburb depends on various factors,-transportation,economy,land availability,zoning laws amnong others.
If you are basing your assertion on the real estate bust in U.S,you are a damn fool.Certainly one of the causes was an exagerration of the desirability of a suburban home.But it still remains an attractive commodity.The problem is too many people(particularly women-what is it with women and houses) prefer to buy than rent when they are much better off renting.
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Japan had a much worse real estate bubble burst around 1991.
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Living in a city is ok when your single and don’t own a lot of stuff. You will outgrow the urge to live in one, trust me. It sucks with a family, especially given how mismanaged, corrupt, and expensive most cities are, especially American ones. Suburbs have peace and quiet and far less crime. I don’t have to carry my groceries up five flights of steps. I think you’re simply projecting your own desires on to society as a whole. Aside from that, city people are next to useless for anything practical. I generally have a low opinion of trendy city dwellers. Enjoy your SWPL fantasy. I’ll take my large house with a pool over a crappy, overpriced apartment any day of the week.
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The main trouble living in an American city with kids who are getting to be school age is that you’ll have to send them to integrated public schools with a lot of NAM’s, unless you’re a very high earner relative to the average in that particular city.
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NAMs screw up schools big time, through disruption, antagonism, and being the lowest common denominator who the teacher has to teach to, to try to close gaps and under idiotic federal educational “reforms” such as “No Child Left Behind”.
Because of pandering to NAMs and their supporters tracking is also usually not done, or not until high school in many/most city schools in America. Which is very damaging to smart white and Asian students.
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“The average Japanese has a mere fraction of the living space that Americans enjoy… and they eat out less.”
Have you checked out coastal cities like NYC, DC, LA, SF, etc., where the majority of Americans live?
American cities are basically bombed out ghettos, projects, and savages surrounding rich white people’s tiny apartments that cost multi-millions.
And maybe eating out less is why Japanese are healthy. Do you really need to go to McDonald’s, Krispy Kreme, and Outback Steakhouse more than the Japanese do?
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I live in NYC, Manhattan in fact, and NYC apartments are on average MUCH bigger than Tokyo ones.
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People make the best of the situation they have. Japan has little spare land space. Thus, it’s ALL “New York City” size, whereas in the U.S. you have a choice. (Besides, your point is wrong – the average Manhattan apartment is circa 1300 sf, the average family-size apartment in Tokyo is less than 1000 sf). “In many cases larger” – I’m sure there is many a penthouse in Tokyo larger than a studio in New York. That has nothing do with anything.
In any event, what “the youth” are doing has nothing to do with anything. “The youth” live in smaller places and in the cities because “the youth” have lower-paying jobs and less net worth because they haven’t been working as long, and require less space because “the youth” mostly haven’t had families yet. There’s out-migration from cities once “the youth” become “the older folks,” which – shocking – does in fact happen with time.
Besides, even if one agrees to disagree about which choice (more space vs. less space, apartment vs. single-family, car vs. train) is “better,” at least you could agree that HAVING the choice is an unqualified mark of additional prosperity. Most Japanese don’t have that choice, whereas many more Americans do.
I’m not saying the Japanese aren’t happy. I’m just saying that, if they are happy, they are not happy BECAUSE low growth has resulted in less personal wealth than the U.S.
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I wonder if the desire by Americans for large spaces between them and their neighbors is a result of having ‘others’ as neighbors?
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Nuts.
I’ve lived in Japan for years. All this chatter about square footage, if/then, and/or automobiles is beside the point. Here’s why..
You can live in a government housing project, safely & securely, coming and going at any hour of the day or night in peace. You can ride public transportation throughout its urban corridors, and never be robbed or attacked. Old people can enjoy their neighborhoods, families can enjoy their malls & public places. Alphas can score chicks & betas can score video games. Even poor people can enjoy an open beer in a park without being harassed. It’s called civilization.
No Crips, no Bloods, no roving packs of feral blacks. No bombed-out, third world warzones festering within the center of every city. No broken schools. No demands for handouts, nor the endless subsidies to their subprime population. Shall I go on?
Japan’s got 99 problems, but the nigs aren’t one.
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This is absolute rubbish. I have lived in Amsterdam now for 7 years. I live in a small, beautiful flat overlooking a canal and can reach anywhere I want in the city in under 20 minutes. And the beautiful thing is I do this on a BIKE. I don’t own a car. Who the fuck wants a car in a city like this, all it adds up to is unnecessary maintenance costs, yearly insurance and a hassle finding a parking space. Quality of life here is through the roof, people are healthier and better-looking since they ride a bike every day. You say that we eat out less, who fucking cares? Because we live a better life, we work less so I can afford to have friends over, or visit for dinner and some bottles of wine nearly every day of the week! And we relax and enjoy ourselves, not rush into the restaurant, gobble down our food and leave the way you Americans do.
Americans have been sold a lie. We realise we don’t need all that shit that you think you do, so we live our life at a far more leisurely pace and are far happier for it. We DO live better on every single dimension other than material possessions and wealth that only an American would care about. 90% of people in this country earn enough to live comfortably. Unemployment is around 5 percent. We pay more taxes but we are happy to pay them to ensure our fellow man is looked after. Just read any of those quality of life surveys they release every year. Completely dominated by European cities, alongside Canada and Australia.
Try moving here some time. Those tourists that came back with their stories, they were correct, the truth was as plain to them as day. You’re just in denial.
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There is a certain cultural disconnect here, poorly understood on both sides of the pond.
Mainly, the location of the poorer residents.
In Europe, the poor residents live in SOME OF THE SUBURBS, the city is prime real estate and you have to be well off to live there. Ask le Pen.
Or visit Rinkeby in Sweden.
In the US, the poorer people live in the inner cities. I always though this was curious – I grew up in Europe -, since it would be reasonable to expect that inner city, easy access dwellings would come at a premium. But this was recently explained to me. In the fifties and sixties, most employment opportunities were in the city. So the people who could not afford cars settled close the places of employment. People better off chose the suburbs. This pattern then solidified and locked in, although now even the poorer people often have cars.
And yes, much of “quality of life” is subjective, expect the survey results to reflect the priorities of the surveyor (or whoever hired him), not necessarily that of the inhabitants.
Thor
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http://www.pagebypagebooks.com/Aesop/Aesops_Fables/The_Fox_and_the_Grapes_p1.html
It’s great that you are happy. But as I said elsewhere, even if one disagrees on what constitutes the “good life,” it is surely a mark of extra prosperity that more people can choose a version different from yours. In America, if you like a “small flat,” you can have one. If you want to live without a car, you can. If you want to bike in the city, there are options. Or if you prefer to live in single-family homes, you can do that too. But in places even somewhat less wealthy than the U.S. per capita, many fewer people have the option to choose the alternate vision. Of course, since your vision is the default one, you assume that society must be better off being constrained to it.
In any event, you’ve conceded my point when you say “We DO live better on every single dimension other than material possessions.” All I said was that, when trying to sell European life to U.S. residents, most commentators obscure the fact that it DOES result in fewer material possessions. And a lot of those material possessions are ones that, whether you like it or not, many Americans are very fond of and would not care to give up.
It’s a perfectly honest argument to say “Live in a place half the size of where you are now. Give up your car. Fix more of your own food. You’ll be happier and healthier.” It may even be a convincing argument. What I protest against is the strawman argument more commonly advanced: “Europeans live just the same as us, except with 12 weeks of vacation! We should be like them!” That’s not an honest argument.
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I agree. I have lived in many places, and ways- from mansions with servants (white!) to living without power and running water and not even standing headroom (25 foot sailboat). I’ve owned over 150 vehicles at a time, airplanes and all sorts of toys, to doing the suburban commuter drag. And that actual truth is, possessions are only tangentially related to happiness. The people you are with, what you are doing, and the age you are doing it at matter much more. The average European is nowhere near as wealthy as the average American, but his quality of life can be, and often is, much better. It’s the difference between hanging out at a Starbucks in Ames, Iowa, and a cafe in Paris. Technically, there’s not much difference. But go and do both, and it becomes obvious. The people, the bread and ham, the women- everything. Even Anthony Bourdain had to admit that once, and he basically says everything is always great everywhere.
Another issue, however, is how permanent you see your current circumstances. If you think you are trapped, and things can never change, you will most likely feel trapped, and unhappy. If you see things as transitory, you look at things as an adventure. As a friend of mine used to say:
“The difference between an adventure and an ordeal is attitude”.
He also used to say (in regards to Ocean Sailing):
“Adventure is the byproduct of incompetence”.
Tynan (minimalist RV’er PUA) has some interesting thoughts on this, from a young man’s perspective, of course. Age has a lot to do with it- not merely your tolerance of less physical comfort, but also how many years you think you have left.
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You’ve hit on exactly why I liked life in Europe. It had nothing to do with socialism and everything to do with the cultural capital Europe has. I miss old buildings and being surrounded by them. I miss everything being made to last, out of stone, concrete or brick. I miss the food and women as well. We have a different life and country here. I would also miss it if America became too much like Europe. We could improve on food still quite a bit for instance. I can’t own a bunch of guns, a pool, or a boat easily in Europe either. Our cities are crime ridden shit holes and business centers with a few people living in them. But there are also no shops, bars, or restaurants on every street. You have to walk far amidst bleak surroundings to get anywhere on foot in most U.S. cities. There are too few enclaves of middle class people in our cities, hence the comparisons with NYC, as its one of the few in the U.S. that does have a lot of middle class residents. We could have all of this and not have to adopt socialism or cultural Marxism in the U.S. Its mostly a question of vision and an understanding of culture and food, wine, whatever cultural endeavor we choose to excel in. We also have this idiotic interpretation of how to lead solid productive lives. We make it hard to have fun here. We have also deliberately destroyed the cultural ties that hold nations like the Netherlands together. I’m always embarrassed as an American when we get asked to sing drinking songs for instance. Everyone pulls a blank stare.
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European city life is cool if you don’t have a family. Anywhere in the Netherlands is nice. The Dutch are polite, easy going people who generally avoid conflict. They are sensiblly governed as well, for the most part and understand what it means to leave people alone. Most Dutch cities are bicycle friendly and pleasant, but they have empty store fronts and are fighting urban decay as well. The same is true of most of Europe. It won’t stay this nice, I’m afraid. You also live in one of the 4 or 5 coolest cities in Europe. Amsterdam is MTV world incarnate. I don’t think I’d own a car there either. Lots of hot women, good restaurants, and dope on every street corner.
But you’ve never had a German neighbor that picked fights with you over every conceivable thing or complained about your children making too much noise at night for instance, when they can barely be heard already. I’ve also been robbed more than once in European cities- almost all pick pockets. When I retire, I may well buy a flat in Amsterdam. Ideally, I’d like one in Paris and Rome too. However, I’m also keen on staying here half the year or better.
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HTTrader, as a 13-year resident of urban Japan, I could have written your post myself — with the exception of being “happy” to pay taxes! Let me also add that Japan has seen negligible inflation over the last 10-15 years, meaning that it’s been possible to save money and be financially secure in a way that just isn’t possible with currencies that lose 2-3% of their value every year *by design*.
As a man, I definitely prefer city living to the suburbs. What does suburban life give you if you’re the husband? A longer commute, a front lawn that you have to mow, plenty of yardwork to do… most of which will go unappreciated by your wife. Who needs that? Give me the apartments of Tokyo, Kyoto, Sapporo, Vienna, and Berlin any time.
The only thing that worries me about Japan’s future is that there have been a succession of governments that are barely attempting to hide the generational theft that they’re looking to impose so as to capture the massive elderly baby boomer vote.
And it’s not like pensioners are old and impoverished today; no, quite the opposite: the age-midpoint of all wealth in Japan (i. e., if you lined up all the wealth in Japan, by the age of its holder, on a giant fulcrum, where would the balancing point be) is 71 years. Everybody born before about 1970 got to work hard and save money and then make it big during the bubble years. Everyone born after — and there are fewer such people in each succeeding birth year — is left footing the bill for the pensions promised to those already-rich cohorts.
Among other things, the current government, let by PM Noda, wants to double the consumption tax and send all that money to pensions for the elderly — you couldn’t come up with a better dis-incentive for young people to work hard and consume!
The government has spoken loud and clear: the horde of already-wealthy baby boomers will be provided for, even if the tiny ’70s-’80s-born cohort suffers immensely. I claim that the ennui and “omeganess” seen in men in their 20s and 30s today is caused only partially by feminist inroads into society, and much more by their rich elders who aren’t even making a pretense of not being out to screw them economically.
That’s in the future, but *present* conditions are such that you can still have a fulfilling life with all its essentials. Just save your money carefully and don’t count on any kind of government assistance being their for you, or on your taxes not going sky high in the coming years.
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“I live in a small, beautiful flat overlooking a canal and can reach anywhere I want in the city in under 20 minutes. And the beautiful thing is I do this on a BIKE.”
Do you have kids? If so I imagine having a small flat and biking everywhere would get old fast.
“We pay more taxes but we are happy to pay them to ensure our fellow man is looked after.”
If you’re happy to pay them, then why are they taxes and not voluntary contributions to the gov’t?
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It’s not gonna be so great to be Japanese when each Japanese worker is supporting not only himself but a couple of retirees because of their inverted age pyramid.
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At least they needn’t have the added rancor (as do we in the West) of supporting other people who don’t look/think/act like them… let alone wish them dead as a race.
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HLS,
Sorry buddy but I have to call bullshit.
I’ve noticed the propensity of Caucasians to swoon over homogeneity- and I must say I’m not convinced at all. For example, consider the suicide rate in Japan, the compensated dating industry (enjo kosai?sp?), the astronomical abortion rate (ironically black folks share this characteristic with them) and their complete and total lack of real security seeing as how they’re little more than a protectorate of the U.S. gov’t.
I for one don’t envy them. I for one as a black man am not particularly impressed with anything that they may or may not have going for themselves.
However, I’ll concede that it would be better if this little experiment had never began. I’ll also concede that there probably is a certain amount of comfort that can only come from being among your own.
I’ll also concede that when the shtf- it’d be better living in a racially homogenous nation then as a reviled outlier in a country such as this one.
Within the next few years this country will be one step closer to being homogenous as- I will be leaving.
If you guys have any sense you’ll be heading for the door as well.
Peace.
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“consider the suicide rate in Japan”
They are built that way. It is not coincidence that African Americans have one of the lowest suicide rates anywhere while a place like Finland or Japan.
The Japanese would still be killing themselves if you magically transported all of them to the US and raised them in US culture. Perhaps not as much, but they definitely still would top both whites and blacks.
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I agree totally. I LIVED in Japan for a few years, and it’s hardly the bustling Utopia that everyone (mainly whites) love to trumpet; especially outside Tokyo.
There are so many cracks in the facade that I’m constantly amazed that anyone looks to Japan or Europe for that matter as a beacon of great living. While I lived in Japan, it was painfully obvious that they were in a state of cultural decay. The young are no longer buying into the old ideals of honor and lifelong dedication to a career and family (mostly because those options simply don’t exist anymore) as well as the atrocious abortion rate and carnal pursuit of pleasure and “experiences” ie all the weirdo, and “why not” inclinations to abstract erotica and crime…if you ever get the chance go look up some of the local news reports from Japan.
Random stabbings, and shootings with the perpetrators offering up little more than “I just wanted to know what it was like to kill someone” as an excuse are common. Also rapes and “Jealousy killings” pop up in an alarmingly steady rate as well. And it’s 50/50 if the perpetrator is male or female! I remember just before I left there was a big case where 3 school girls kidnapped a substitute teacher and held her hostage while raping her with sticks and poles because the local boys had a crush on her! They planned to kill her but she was discovered and rescued. They had her for 3 days.
Now of course those are just examples of the extremes. But that type of crap doesn’t really happen here, even with our much higher crime rates.
There’s also the issue of the males completely opting out of society, no girlfriend, no job, or occupying a part time at best, and devoting their existence to a life of hobbies, and fantasy behind the computer or in video games. Many of the young women are completely un-attracted to the local men, preferring foreigners. (And I can’t really blame’em, if there was ever a population of Omegas, it’s in Japan!) The girls pursue YOU there. They buy everything, they are responsible for the birth control, and they are nearly all freaks; without any provocation from you. I’m talking women who think its “par the course” to toss the salad of a man they JUST MET! Oh man, the stories I could tell you about some of the women I met while there…
To wrap this up: if you compare the average conveniences and material wealth of the average American vs the average Japanese person. We live MUCH better. And the opportunity to advance and make money is much greater here as well.
I still miss it though, and have plans to go back and vistit…
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Ofcourse, you were getting laid there. As for the U.S., you probably don’t pull all that much
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LMAO! I was thinking the same thing
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Skeleton Hands mate. I swear to God! I’ve seen WBAFCs in Australia (who could not pull a whore in Oz even with a sackful of cash) who get laid like rockstars in Japan, and I’m talking hot girls! and each of these fuckers posts on masf giving “game tips” to newbies in the U.S. which will pretty much get you arrested in the States
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“I’ve noticed the propensity of Caucasians to swoon over homogeneity- and I must say I’m not convinced at all. For example, consider the suicide rate in Japan, the compensated dating industry (enjo kosai?sp?), the astronomical abortion rate (ironically black folks share this characteristic with them) and their complete and total lack of real security seeing as how they’re little more than a protectorate of the U.S. gov’t.”
1. Uh, no. White people don’t “swoon over homogeneity”. That’s why ya’ll blacks are here in the first place.
2. High black abortion rate? Excuse me? But why do I always see 4-5 kids accompanying the average single black mom?
3. Having a large military doesn’t bring security. Just ask the Romans, or the 9/11 folks, or black folks living in the average American city-ghetto. Japan invaded Asia in WWII and maybe they found out it isn’t always the best to be starting wars all the time and pissing off people. America hasn’t learned that lesson yet.
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As far as wars go, it ain’t what you do, its the way that you do it. Japan practiced industrial scale wanton cruelty and was smacked down quickly, as was Germany for the same reason. Rome’s army is why the empire lasted 1200 years in the West and another 1300 in the East. America has set the standard for decency in warfare. We’re too decent as a matter of fact. We could get more mileage out of carrying a big stick and speaking more softly, but overall, our militarism has been successful. Viet Nam doesn’t hate us for instance. I know Germans and Russians can’t say that.
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Correction- the Eastern Empire lasted another 1000 years after the fall of the Western Empire.- until 1453 AD. No other nation or government can make that claim in history.
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Interesting take. Where are you headed?
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Not sure why it’s directed to me. I actually agree, I think the Japanese society is not going a good direction. Never a good sign when people stop breeding. I was just going with the article, in a sense, by saying that I can’t personally say I know of evidence that the Japanese are NOT “happy.” My only point was that any alleged happiness is not caused by their lower prosperity compared to the U.S. If they are generally more “happy” – which I don’t know – cultural factors might help explain it.
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I think you misunderstood HLS. You’re generally in agreement.
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Life is good because there are fewer Japanese taking from the economic pie, in the short term it seems dandy; however the long term rammifications are dire. There will come a point when they will not have enough producers to subsidize the consumers. You want an example of the decay that will result look at Detroit or Flint. Economic growth, real growth not bubble or balance sheet driven, and population growth is good, its only the cultural marxists and malthusians who postulate otherwise, and why should we listed to those pharasees? The fact is Japan is in big trouble, men are more emasculated there than in America. Their culture was surplanted by a mish mash of fetishes, like kwaii or lolicon. Life seems good in Japan, but its only a lull before the tempest will strike. They have lost much more than a decade, and they are in the verge of losing their future.
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“There will come a point when they will not have enough producers to subsidize the consumers. ”
Can you say welfare munching vote casting exponentially increasing underclass?
Guess how much of one the Japanese have?
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No, the Japanese do not have the welfare munching (but voting) underclass. But financially, an inverted population pyramid with
a proportionally large number of retirees at the top can provide
a functional equivalent.
Thor
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Very interesting points. Just because there’s a buck to be made doesn’t mean that the capitalist has to jump at it, especially if it’s at the ultimate cost of killing the community. The open borders crowd may like the effect that it forced people who aren’t college material into college but they like even more that it’s being used to destroy the community of America. When Teddy K changed the immigration laws in the 70’s money and power was already no issue for him. He wanted transformation. Clinton, when he realized he could demographically change California forever in one afternoon of massive immigration did it just for the power, Obama’s doing it for transformation. and because he hates all of us.
The host’s arguments with the cheap chalupas crowd: America is also a culture, a community, an ideal, a family…there are somethings you just don’t sell out.
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“America is also a culture, a community, an ideal, a family…there are somethings you just don’t sell out.”
America is an economic system. That’s it.
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It didn’t used to be. Before the schools became idiot factories, we got pretty decent educations and much of it was cultural in nature. I had an excellent music appreciation education in public school for instance and it continues to serve me very well. They didn’t spend so much time on cultural Marxist indoctrination back then.
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Clinton? Do you mean the Reagan amnesty of 1986? The immigration act was 1965, not the 70’s.
I agree with your post, however. There does exist that which Lincoln referred to as “The mystic cords of memory that bind us together”.
America is currently devolving into warring ethno-religious groups sharing a common postal delivery system. We are Balkanizing, and like the Balkans, this will end in bloodshed.
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The West is Balkanizing in general. Europe will also experience bloodshed. That’s one reason they promote the internationalist- equalist line so much. Cultural differences are deeper and still very obvious there. WWII shocked them. Hand grenades and E-tools at ten paces when the ammo ran out. Yugoslavia was a mini version of it and a way of settling old scores from the Nazi occupation.
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HLS is correct, and Japan’s population decline while gaining living space, means there are fewer jobs available. A growing population internally produces the best of all possible worlds — more money to be made in both labor and capital. Rising standards of living. As mentioned with an aging population experiencing declining living standards, Japanese companies are expanding … overseas. To places like China, or the US, or Thailand.
Meanwhile, yes the Japanese are bringing in Thais and other foreigners as permanent guest workers.
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There is also the issue of how Japans obsession with stability and old-fashioned ideology has destroyed its youth.
http://dissention.wordpress.com/2011/02/05/income-profile-of-japanese-herbivore-men/
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Robber _profs_?!?! I think you mean robber administrators. Profs don’t make shit.
You’re right about fearful mediocrities, though. Not that I enjoy teaching them.
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Japan is an enigma, worthy of further study to understand the strengths and weaknesses of its quirky politics. From my view, it seems mostly good, and it’s an unalloyed boon to alpha males. Iceland is another interesting case study; see “Meltdown” by Roger Boyes for some interesting cultural commentary on the whole mess.
Japan and Iceland are interesting bellweathers; their mistakes are very likely to be the same as ours, if we aren’t careful.
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I lived there five years. Yes it’s stagnant but it’s also the very definition of “social capital”. It’s a homogenous culture and all the better for it. Lots of thinly-disguised socialism though. For example, the inheritance laws are deliberately redistributive.
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Dude, why are you always so hung up on immigration? That shit is like a drop in bucket compared to the emigration of blue collar jobs overseas. The factory in Flyover, OH didn’t close down because a bunch of Mexicans crossed the border. Here is god’s honest truth that no one really wants to hear. The factory closed down because it was cheaper to make it in China and ship it across the world than it is to make it here. It’s called labor arbitrage. I mean come on now, why would a company hire immigrants and pay them minimum wage, or even a third of minimum wage, when they can pay someone in another country like $14/mo?
Here’s what people need to realize. The world is shrinking, and globalization is happening. The genie is out of ths bottle and it ain’t going back in. There is no return to how shit was. Even if you could it would be insane. Like using Napoleonic battle tactics against a modern day military. Disruption brings opportunity. Rather than sitting around bitching and moaning about a return to some past that has been swept away by the tides of time, we need to innovate, adapt to the world as it is today, and ride this wave of disruption into the future.
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An old way of telling when an econmoy was good was if the population was growing.
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Quality of life for your average Japanese salaryman sucks. Long working hours, extremely limited prospects for career advancement, stagnant wages, hour-long train rides each way to/from work, mandatory drinking and karaoke with lame co-workers late into the night leaving no time for friends or family, etc.
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There is a huge discrepency between the economic opportunities and lifestyle of older Japanese and the younger generation, which has largely been shut out due to low growth.
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Economists are really amoral. All they measure is money flow. More is better.
For example, some modern economists praise the Mongols (eg. Genghis Khan) because they encouraged trade. This is really sick, like praising Stalin because he encouraged industrialization. Money in motion is all they care about, however.
I really do ignore pronouncements by economists. Just a bunch of gasbags, talking about something they have never done personally, that is, run a business and make payroll. Businessmen, yes. I listen to them.
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Gramps: I think you’re being unfair to the Mongols. Once they took a place, they let the locals run things and they got their tribute. Ghenghis Khan was a genious of the first order. The Mongols united a huge swath of Asia (75%) and big parts of Europe. You’re judging the past by modern standards. The Mongols were pretty benevolent once they owned a place and seldom interfered with local politics. Trade and culture flourished precisely because they made it safe to travel from Venice to China and back. It ended up being a huge boon to Western Civilization due to the cross fertilization of ideas and technology back and forth between China, Persia, India, and Europe. Not only that, but they grew weary of Chinese high culture and intrigue and left voluntarily after about 150 years.
The same is also true of Rome and Alexander the Great. It was both Rome’s and Alexander’s vision for a better world, to unite their territories under a single banner to permit peace and prosperity to reign. Conquering one’s enemy back then was the only real path to economic expansion because technology advanced too slowly to allow more efficient use of capital. Life in the ancient world was cheap. Progress was dulled by constant warfare. The sword was all they knew and man had to advance through that phase to achieve the next level of advancement. As Heraclites said it best- War is the Father of All Things. Ponder that.
Stalin, on the other hand, murdered his own people so as to create a new people, obedient to him. I doubt the Romans, Alexander, and the Mongols combined killed 10% of the people Stalin killed. Stalin is more accurately compared to Ivan the Terrible.
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Why the blame directed at academics? Most academics are broke, and honestly doing what they do for the loveof their field. The corporate types infecting the for-profit education system are not academics. They are management types and lawyers.
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This. Academics profit? Since when? Academia is very low-paying.for the vast majority in the field. Also, I can’t tell if you’re calling college-attending immigrants mediocre, but if you are, I don’t know where you’re getting your information/data/statistics. Where I’m from, most of them do very well in school. In fact, America has some of the biggest anti-learning cultures of any developed nation. Overall, this post comes across as knee-jerk, uninformed, and lacking in any hard evidence.
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My problem with academics is that the academy has gone Marxist and placed a huge constraint on intelligent thinking. Its become the dissemination of Communist dogma and little else. I can’t find a good history book written by an academic in the last 20 years, with at best, a few exceptions, like Victor David Hanson.
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Academia is the source of all the pretty lies we seek to kill here.
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You’re forgetting about demographics.
It’s an amazing country. But it’s going extinct.
They’ve got a death spiral birth rate. The women are Louis Vuitton-crazed spinsters, the men are weird omega types spending their effeminate days romancing their love robots or anime girls.
And they’re facing the mother of all pension crises.
So it’s Europe minus the influx of immigrants.
You might worry about America’s future, but it’s a lot less bleak than Japan’s.
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I’m unpersuaded by arguments about workers vs retirees. It’s better to rough it out and let your native population bounce back in a generation than to entirely replace it or adulterate it with a completely different group of people.
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Spot on.
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Anyone also notice that migration patterns always, everywhere, go in the direction of lower social capital displacing the higher? Case in point: uglier women replacing prettier ones.
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If Japan is overcrowded, a decline in their population is actually good. Wrt to all that old people unable to care for themselves given the lack of young people, well, life is hard and all of them had the choice in their lives to prepare for old age. I couldn’t care less
The public debt in Japan is also very high and probably will be defaulted sometime this decade. So that then? Post default Japan will still be populated by an industrious, extremely smart people and the greatest threat to its economy – the debt – will be removed. The day after default will be the day to buy everything Japanese, from equities to bonds to real estate.
Think about the day after default in California and compare.
Exactly my observation after living in Germany 23 years. Well said. A 1000 sf apartment is considered big in Germany,
All that space Americans cherish so much requires not only hordes of cheap labour to care for yards, kitchens and so on but also an incredible amount of resource consumption. Leading America to terrorize the world with her oversyzed army and fleet, so the oil keeps flowing. Be prepared to pay, and pay a lot, for the welfare of your cheap labour and for the maintanance of all those aircraft carriers.
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“Leading America to terrorize the world with her oversyzed army and fleet, so the oil keeps flowing.”
The world would scream in unanimous horror if it were really announced that the U.S. was going to withdraw the fleet, downsize the army, and stop providing global order. The Europeans and Japanese would have to spend for their own defense. The shithole countries would be subject to any aggressive neighbour. Total world military expenditure would go up, not down, if the U.S. went insular. Personally, I’m hoping to see it in my lifetime – though it will probably be involuntary, as the U.S. will simply be in penury.
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I do my own yardwork thank you. I pay less in heating here than in Germany too. I have extra insulation in the attic. We will soon be producing our own energy and there will be mini nuclear power plants available soon. The biggest expense for the military is payroll, not machines. A draft will fix that problem. We will soon have UAVs that can control air space and drop guided bombs controlled from a room in Colorado. I prefer Pax Americana to the alternatives.
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I won’t argue that investors are grouchy that Japan is no longer a giant offshore profit engine, or that flat real estate prices benifit the average (Ho)Jo.
But there are other indicators of Japan’s stagnation on the ground level. There is brutal competition for jobs that begins in school. The level of mindless testing Japanese students go through makes our education system seem positively holistic. To those that do not enter the best schools with the best scores, there is a shrinking employment market which offers fewer and fewer of the long term corporate benefits Japan’s companies were once known for.
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From what I understand, it is worse than that. Parents work hard
..so their tots can get into the “right” preschool
..so that their kids can get into the “right” kindergarten
..so that their kids can get into the right school
etc
..so that their kids (young adults by now) can get into the right university
.. so that their adult children have a shot at a good job.
But there is a benefit to all this, in that you end up with a well-educated
population. The negatives (apart from all the hard work) is that
the Japanese value conformity over creativity, so they are
in general bad at coming up with real innovation, great at
piling on lots of minor improvements, cost reductions etc.
Thor
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Wake up white man.
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“Undercutting wage labor and inflating real estate values through diversity lending and the exploitation of the ancient human tribal instinct”
It’s not so much the ancient human “tribal” instinct that’s driving Whites away from Latinos, Negroes, Dravidians and Arabs, but the ancient human hatred of filth, poverty and crime.
I daresay we wouldn’t see much “White Flight” if the folks moving in next door were Japanese and South Korean.
[heartiste: true, but even there tribal instincts assert, albeit in a milder form. reports from the field indicate that SWPLs harbor resentment against asians, ostensibly for crowding them out of ivy league slot, and for making the college experience less fun.]
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Plus there’s the jealousy that SWPL women have toward Asian women, when SWPL men come down with yellow fever.
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Poor SWPLs. How they must suffer.
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Japan has a smarter voter base and political class than Western societies. Also selling their people out hasn’t been seen as a viable option by their elites at this stage in their history shows they don’t take their own people for such pathetic fools. Speaks volumes really, what loves a traitor…
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And the Gods of the Copybook Headings,
Rose up to explain it once more.
Read this:
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1993/12/how-the-world-works/5854/
And then this: (More detail)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_List
There is an article about how Economics is one of the very few social sciences that ignore race and ethnicity in a right-wing newsletter I have archived; I am traveling and will try to post it when I get to my home computer. The essential problem is the assumption that ALL human actions reflect “Homo-Economicus”, i.e., Davos Man. This is untrue. I often ask people, “Would you take a 30% cut in income (after taxes) if the trade-off was to live in a world with very little crime, good schools, and safety for your wife and children? A world where you left your house unlocked, keys in your car, and everyone looked out for each other’s children? Most people say yes, or rather, “HELL YES”.
I lived in that world once- not only overseas, but in America. I lived in Sarasota, Florida in the mid-60’s as a young boy. It truly was like Mayberry, That world existed not long ago- and probably still does, in small farming communities in the Midwest, or Zug, Switzerland, or Monte Carlo. It used to be available to those of modest means. It is being destroyed as fast as possible- Mestizos don’t share our values (Read Victor Davis Hansen’s piece on “Vandal States” in National Review).
If you want to watch a great TV show about this fantasy world, go to YouTube and watch the Twilight Zone episode “A Stop at Willoughby”.
Sic Transit Glorea Munde.
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I lived in a place that fit the Eden description above, more or less.
I rarely locked my house – pointless as it was utterly un-burglar-proof.
East end of Ventura County, California.
Now I temporarily reside in a farmhouse in Delaware, no kids,
but I am not worried about any of the things above.
I think the writers on this blog has a VASTLY overrepresented
number of city (not suburban or country) dwellers.
Thor
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Of course this blog is more frequented by city people. You can’t run much game in the countryside after all. If you want to maximize your chances you need access to a lot of women. If you live in a small town and strike out with the two acceptable single women you are pretty much out of options. In the city you just go to the next bar.
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Yes and no. You are right when it comes to rural Delaware. Ventura County,
OTH, has enough people that you can indeed just go to the next bar.
This is largely true of the suburbia where most Americans actually live,
but, as far as I can tell, NOT most of the bloggers here.
Thor
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The biggest reason you would experience a 30% cut in income would be because women were not really in the workforce. That in itself was a huge improvement in quality of life for all concerned. Women are happier at home, especially when they could form clubs or have coffee klatches and gap all damned day until the kids came home and then they cooked supper. They were much less stressed and easier to deal with back then. Its nice to come home to a smiling wife who brings you a cigarette and a cocktail. That stuff really existed. Moreover, unstressed women fuck more, a lot more as a matter of fact.
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Hear, Hear!
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I’ve always believed that one of the drivers for feminism was the need for two incomes to increase the amount of tax revenue, as women’s work at home was (and is) untaxed. It became necessary to have two incomes to maintain a middle-class lifestyle, so feminism became the way to sell drudgery as liberation. Most women have jobs- not careers. Remember, the ideas of a society are always the ideas of its’ ruling class- Marx. Lyndon Johnson’s refusal to raise taxes to pay for Vietnam meant deficit spending (guns vs butter) and voila! The need for women to work.
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Indeed it was and it was due to having to pay for the Great Society and the Viet Nam War at once. The state needed the extra revenue to take care of all that new state.
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Here is the link I mentioned earlier:
http://instaurationonline.com/?p=1
This is a link to the first issue of Wilmot Robertson’s magazine, which was apparently a white racialist magazine- apparently an intellectual precursor to American Renaissance, if you will. I have not read all the articles, nor do I claim to agree with his views (I have lots more reading to do). But it is about the only thing I have yet found that discusses race and economics. Economists simply avoid the subject, but anyone who has lived amongst other cultures/races for any length of time recognizes this basic truth.
Here’s the Wikipedia listing for the author:
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Wilmot_Robertson
It is a pretty sad state of affairs when the only sources available for a rather basic question in economics are considered so distasteful they can only be shared anonymously. I weep for my race. And my country.
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His seminal The Dispossessed Majority is what attributed to my racial awakening back in the seventies… back then, I was a well-schooled and brainwashed liberal, even to the extent of campaigning for McGovern… after three years in the Army and actually living with other races, I knew I had been lied to… and for awhile felt increasingly guilty about my growing “racism”. Reading that book was an epiphany.
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The father of a girlfriend of mine in high school exposed me to that magazine. The cover I saw had a charicature of Jesse Jackson on it. This was in 1979. I remember being really impressed with him after that. The daughter later became a real live feminist lawyercunt and lives and works in DC now and has a lot of cats, I think.
We once got into an argument about feminism when Clinton was elected and she had delusions of being picked up as a political appointee at the time because her father had been one in the Kennedy administration. She was trying to selectively remember him as a good anti-White Democrat. I reminded her of how cool her father was and how he turned me on to my modern day politics along with skewering all her feminist ideas. She was pale and open mouthed at the end of the conversation. It was the first time she had ever experienced any push back and didn’t udnerstand it because she had attended UVA Law and had been informed by the Gods of how best to think. The old man had a theory he called the honey barrel theory- what do you get when you put a shovel full of shit into a honey barrel? A: A barrel of shit with honey in it.
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I lived in that world in the 70s and 80s. No one in our neighborhood bothered to lock our doors. Even when we went out of the house.
It was a middle to upper middle class all white neighborhood out in all directions surrounded by the same. The neighbors kids would play in the streets and the parents would gather for dinner parties and the families of the neighborhood would gather for holidays. You knew your family doctor by name, and he knew your name since your a young child up until you moved out of the neighborhood.
The public schools were good, with some high school studies being at the University level.
I had not even heard of any friend of a friend getting robbed, nor of any store being robbed.
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I spend most of my time in Japan and not just Tokyo. It’s not possible for a foreigner to understand this culture, so don’t bother.
But for you characters out there who want *cunt,* let me tell you something: there is nowhere in the world — nowhere — where a white man can get it more easily, more often and, if he has minimal looks/status/money/game, more exquisitely.
You can be served up steaming and delicious cunt even without these things. If you have those things, you can truly feast on the only country in the world where there are 40 year old women (!) that can make you bite your arm, they look that good.
And they look that good stripped down and makeupless.
Don’t ask about the young girls: the quality, esp. if they’ve fixed their teeth, is unspeakable. The best there is.
And, now, there’s a rising blend of Japanese/Latina who are walking calamity: that face and that ass and those tits and that hair on a single human female?
Yes.–
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Gorbachov speaks similarly about S. Korean, who he prefers somewhat to Japanese girls, maybe mostly because he’s spent a lot more time in Korea. He’s involved in documentary films in one role or another.
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Meh… a beautiful White woman is/was/always will be the gold standard. The best mischlings can hope for is resemblance to a Halle Berry or a Vanessa Williams… nothing to sneeze at, mind you… but not even close to the epitome of female beauty.
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BTW- anyone seen the new National Geographic issue with twins on the cover? The article is about twins raised separately, and (Big Surprise Coming Here!) they admit that 75% of a person’s personality (and IQ) is due to genetics. They also admit that 50 years ago, this sort of speech got you fired.
They even reference the Eugenics movement and its’ discredited theories (which, in a masterpiece of doublespeak, the article that writes this just credited it. What geniuses!)
The truth is slowly coming out. What will happen when the connect-the-dots moment arrives? (IQ is genetic, we imported genetically low IQ people, this can’t be fixed, now what? Party time!)
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Low IQ imported. It does not matter – much – in a free society.
But it DOES matter in a country full of redistributionist schemes
(i.e. most industrial countries), and/or various quotas, yakkings
about disproportionate impact, search for “diversity” and other
forms of nastiness.
Thor
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One last comment:
We are about to enter the age of smart machines, and universal duplicators. This will lead to a world where we don’t NEED immigrants, and things become very cheap (Want a 1963 Ferrari Daytona Spyder? Let the CNC duplicator make one!). Forcing permanent demographic change on a population about to undergo such a technological shift is INSANE, or EVIL. The Japanese “farm-out” their elderly (the wealthier ones) to nursing homes in Thailand, and they have machines that wash humans. In 50 years there will be ubiquitous robots doing most of these jobs. At least, Japan will be Japanese. What will the West be?
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Wondering about your pseudonym.
Do you hammer Muslim armies for sport?
Thor
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In Europe they will be Muslim. In America it will blacks against whites and Asians against Hispanics. I suppose Sam Houston or Nathan Bedford Forrest might be equivalent American handles. NBF was a BMF.
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We’ll have the bloodshed first though. Its nature’s way of telling us something’s wrong.
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I think the Japs are suffering from “PTABS” (Post Traumatic Atomic Bombing Syndrome)
Before that happened, they were some of the baddest mofos on the planet. Then the white man fried two of their cities post toasty to the bitter, and look at them now?
Take a look at Japanese cartoons pre and post atomic bombing; they draw themselves to resemble white people.
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Naaah! Japan sucks. Every western man who goes there get’s laid like gangbusters. Mean while Japanese men go and fuck whores or stay virgins. Japanese men probably get off on seeing white/black boys screw their women 6 ways to sunday. Go to masf and see the number of posters there who are in Japan. Read Neo Rio’s archive on masf. I don’t think the Japan lair has even one japanese male. Google charisma man. Also on amazon, read a book called black passenger yellow cabs. Japanese married women in their thirties have not had sex with their husbands in years. The husbands are busy banging whores and ignore the hell out their wives. The wives meanwhile fuck the white boys there who would not have a rowboats chance in a whirpool of getting laid back in their home countries. And the husbands in turn are relieved that their wife too is getting some so now he can bang whores in peace without her nagging. Seriously, Japan is no model. Good bye samurai Nation. Hello Mangina nation, you should know better than peddling Japan
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With all due respect CH (and, at times, genuflection) — less politics and more Game please! Look at your recent survey. ”Cultural/political commentary” only got 8.4%. You should only be posting stuff like this about twice a month, more or less.
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Dude, ignore Steve Sailer, as he’s talking garbage . Japan has a sovereign debt of 230 fucking %. They are going down and going down hard.
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“Countries which are bucking this trend and having around 2 children include: Australia, the U.K, the Nordic countries, New Zealand, France and the U.S.A (the later two due to a high immigrant birthrate).”
As far as Australia goes:
2002 saw the introduction of the “Baby Bonus”
From Wikipedia:
“The baby bonus scheme introduced by the Federal Government of Australia in the 2002 budget was aimed at offsetting the expenses associated with bearing a child. The scheme was also introduced as a means of increasing Australia’s fertility rate and to mitigate the effects of Australia’s ageing population.
In the 2004 budget the bonus was raised from $3,000 effective 1 July 2004 to $4,000 payable in 2007 but indexed to inflation so that in October 2007, the amount receivable per eligible child was $4,133.
The bonus was paid in a lump sum to a nominated financial institution.
From January 1, 2009 the payment is paid in 13 fortnightly installments. The receivable amount from July 2010 is $5,294.”
Our population (20 odd million) is relatively tiny compared to our size, yet we have been letting in over 100 000 immigrants per year for the last decade or so.
Immigrants ARE outbreeding us.
Nationally, 19.0% of children under 15 years lived in a lone parent family in 2011. – from the Australian Bureau of Statistics.
Way to go Australia !
If it wasn’t for our resouces boom (selling coal, iron ore etc) to China and enough regulation to keep our banks in check we would also have been well and trully fucked.
Our third biggest export has been education. University degrees to Asian students.
Our housing in capital cities has become amongst the most expensive relative to income in the world.
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In the 70’s and 80’s all the Japanese cars imported into Australia were quite easy to break into and/or steal.
Why?
Because in Japan, car theft was unhead of whereas in Australia, per capita it was and is verging on a national passtime.
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Netherlands is a toy country. Made of legos. It cant be a model for anything.
Japan is dead. The land of herbs, hilikomori weirdos and yellow cab depressed women who will sleep with any foreigner.
The US is ten times better to live than anywhere else. And I am not American.
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If there’s valuable real estate to be had and nobody to defend it, armies will sprout to take it. “Tough out” a population collapse? Not on this planet.
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