There’s a reason I argue that feminism is anti-standards, and thus, anti-beauty. If girls start taking up the feminist banner in earnest, expect to see ugliness shroud the nation like an advancing orc army spilling out of Mordor. And one sign of that ugliness is women thumbing their noses at feminine fashion. Roosh writes about feminism’s anti-beauty message: “Next thing you know, American women will appear in public wearing pajamas.”
Already too late. Recently walking through what we’ll call ‘Whole SWPLs’ on a weekend afternoon, I noticed a hipster-ish couple groping a selection of gala apples. Both the man and the woman were wearing what looked exactly like pajamas. Loose-fitting, billowy, plaid cotton pajama pants, pilling from too many washings and dryings. They had jackets on, but underneath the girl’s jacket I spied what appeared to be the matching top to her pajamas.
Maybe these were clothes designed to mimic the look of pajamas, but does it matter whether they actually tumbled out of bed and seized the day in their sleepwear, or if they put on clothes that looked like they tumbled out of bed to seize the day in their sleepwear?
That’s it. We’ve arrived. The total neglect of one’s appearance is now a fashion statement. A nation of Dudes and Dudettes. Careful man, I’m holding an iPhone here.
FIRST.
Also, I like my chicks in pajamas.
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I like my chicks naked.
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I think the hippies started this trend…
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Exactly what I was going to say. I saw them in San Francisco in -72.
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I can’t wait until I can take a trip outside of this country.
As someone who has grown up entirely in this generation of sloppiness, I quite literally have no idea what it would be like to walk around town and see women dressed like they are proud of their femininity.
I suspect significant mind-blowage when this finally happens.
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You have no idea…..
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For the greatest contrast in both personal grooming/style and body weight, come to Asia.
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Traveling outside the US is a shock to the system. When you’re surrounded by rampant obesity and poor fashion, you become desensitized to the flip flops, sweatpants and gunts on every American street.
My non-US experience is strictly limited to Scandinavia, which is supposed to be a feminist hellhole. The difference is striking. Women wear heels (and know how to walk in them), dresses and, best of all, AREN’T FAT.
When I got off the plane in Chicago, the first thing I saw was a Wal-Martian in sweatpants screaming into a cell phone with a death grip on a bag of McDonalds. I wept in despair at the site of the hog beast and her sloppy offspring.
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Holy crap that’s exactly how I felt when I got back from Europe last year (Germany). For six months all I thought about was how healthy and gorgeous they were compared to all the mannish looking fatties in our country.
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“My non-US experience is strictly limited to Scandinavia, which is supposed to be a feminist hellhole.”
It is a feminist hellhole, especially Sweden, where feminism is, for all intents and purposes, the state religion.
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…and if American men looked & dressed anything like Swedish men, maybe American women would actually care. American men are also sloppy, fat, often obese, and dress like teenagers. Swings both ways. Dated a Swedish guy and its hard to come back and dat eAmerican men. They’re x10 more masculine than Americans.
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They are not “proud of their femininity”. They are proud of the money thrown at them by indulgent families and secretary jobs. Has absolutely nothing to do with any conception of themselves as the vessel of their race or simply as females.
They don’t care. They just want more money.
Your money.
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And the problem with this is what exactly?
Women who intend to stay at home and raise their kids need a man with resources to support that. Keeping herself up may be considered whoring to some, but at least she has more than a hole to offer. Even if you were hiring a maid, you wouldn’t want one who looked like she had no care for herself. If she doesn’t take care of herself, how is she going to take care of your house?
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You are fat and black.
You do not really exist to me. Until you sit on my head and suffocate me, or something.
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Oh, it’s not when you GO to the foreign country that blows your mind.
It’s when you COME BACK to America and see, with the mind of a newbie, the devastation firsthand…that’s when it hits you.
Then you weep because you know how American women could be, if they cared to try.
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Amen brother.
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I used to go through withdrawals when I returned from Ukraine. Our women have turned themselves into a laughing stock elsewhere in the world.
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just as da neocon noeonths hate greek classical honor truth duty, da neocons wives hatzes beauty like the beuatifufl helen artemis athena gooddoodd goddesses lzzzozozozl
da noetchisnst wann butthex all beuaty away like buttehixntxing tucker max rhemses iwth godldma sachs zlzozolzl
http://greatbooksformen.wordpress.com/2010/03/11/jonah-goldbergs-primal-lord-of-the-flies-savagery-tamed-by-his-beuatiful-wife/
nd Jonah Goldberg’s Primal “Lord of The Flies Neocon Savagery” Tamed by His Beuatiful (lozl) Wife!!
omg lozlzl chekc out jonah goldberg’s wife!!
“nuff said!” lzozlzl!
a most civilizing force that tamed the savage, primal jonah goldberg!!
jonah writes:
“March 10, 2010 12:00 A.M.
Where Feminists Get It Right
Women civilize men. ’Nuff said.
“nuff said!” lzozlzl!
The reason strikes me as fairly simple. Women civilize men. As a general rule, men will only be as civilized as female expectations and demands force them to be. “Liberate” men from those expectations, and Lord of the Flies logic kicks in. Liberate women from this barbarism, and male decency will soon follow.
–http://article.nationalreview.com/427383/where-feminists-get-it-right/jonah-goldberg
without jonah goldberg’s wife’s arresting beauty (lozllz!), neocon woman expectations, and neocon woman demands (lzozll! omg lozlzlz!), jonah goldberg would be out playing lord of the flies, running around with no shirt on down K street, rockin’ out with his goldberg neocon cock (neocock) out, ducking into bars to ravage all that his rightfully his as an untamed beta-male neocon. lozlzlzl!
why do neocons think that we are all like them?
also, throughout the history of mankind, it has been men who have laid down the law–from homer and moses on down–not pussified neoconning goldberg’s wife & her feminist friends. lzozll! i mean lookw hat the fmeinist movement has done to the family lzzozlzl! WTF is goldberg thinking????? Single mother familes r good?? Have you ever dated a few chicks with no fatehrs goldberg? If so, and you still wnat fatherless families, where teh neocons repalce teh father with debt-based fiat dolalrs, you hate women & love ur kinky kink & shiznit yo.
The cherubic, fat-faced Jonah Goldberg writes,
“March 10, 2010 12:00 A.M.
Where Feminists Get It Right
Women civilize men. ’Nuff said.
The reason strikes me as fairly simple. Women civilize men. As a general rule, men will only be as civilized as female expectations and demands force them to be. “Liberate” men from those expectations, and Lord of the Flies logic kicks in. Liberate women from this barbarism, and male decency will soon follow.
–http://article.nationalreview.com/427383/where-feminists-get-it-right/jonah-goldberg
hahahahah! what goldberg is saying that is if his wife didn’t lay down the law, he would be a beasty man alpha male, smacking women around, rocking out with his cock out, as that is in Jonah Goldberg’s true, deep, neocon nature. lozllz! he admits it! and then he projects his neocon nature on the entire world as neocons do to justify their pre-emptive, illegal, unconstitutional wars! lzozll!
you guys do understand that feminism is an illegal, pre-emptive war waged against men, the family, and children to profit the fiat neocons, right? lozlzl!
http://greatbooksformen.wordpress.com/
for they make their profits by debauching currencies and cultures. lolzlzl! neocons r funny!
jonah goldberg states we don’t have enough feminismlozllzlz! how many more families must be destoryed by feminism. how many more babies might be murdered by the neocon’s/feminist’s abortion regime?
how many more fathers must be incarcerated by teh neocon fiat state and have tehir children taken from them by goldberg et al.’s feminist police state, before it is enough for goldberg?
does the neocon’s lust for debauchery, destruction, and dehumanization know no bounds. or what? lzolzl!
everyone ought read this book!
http://www.amazon.com/review/product/1581825943/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt/104-4861295-3739101?_encoding=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
“59 5-Star Reviews on Amazon: “totalitarian,” “reign of terror,” “Nazi,” “bolshevik,” say readers about the divorce machinery” writes baskerville @ http://stephenbaskerville.blogspot.com/
OMG! LZOZLZLZLL!!
bolshevik!! that is soooooooooooo neoconnish!!
google:
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=neocons+bolsheviks
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104×721862
“Neo-cons: the modern day Bolsheviks”
Jonah Goldberg is soooooooooooooo Bolshevik. lzozllz.
“To say that liberalism is rooted in fascism because Mussolini had once been a socialist says that Goldberg’s …neo-conservatism must be rooted in Communism. Look at the roots of prominent neocons: Irving Kristol is a former Trotskyist and Josh Muravchik is a YPSL alum. …Jonah Goldberg …therefore Bolshevik Conservatives? … ” –http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/117981
finally, check out on how the fiat masters re-engineered women via feminism–the feminism jonah goldberg exalts lzozllzlz!!
http://www.savethemales.ca/001904.html
Feminism is an excellent example of how the Rockefeller mega cartel uses the awesome power of the mass media (i.e. propaganda.) to control society.
In 40 short years, many women have lost touch with their natural loving instincts. Consequently, the family is in disarray, sexual depravity is rampant and birth rates have plummeted.
–http://www.savethemales.ca/001904.html
Goldberg sees depopulation and the decline of birth rates as a good thing. lozlzlzlzl !!!
“Forgetting the question of decency and morality for a moment, there’s the matter of national interests. Female equality seems to be a pretty reliable treatment for many of the world’s worst pathologies. Population growth in the Third World tends to go down as female literacy goes up. Indeed, female empowerment might be the single best weapon in the “root causes” arsenal in the war on terror.” –http://article.nationalreview.com/427383/where-feminists-get-it-right/jonah-goldberg?page=2
as a neocon it is jonah goldberg’s DIVINE RIGHT to plan and effect the world’s population. lozlzl!
is it any wonder the trotskyite, power-hungry, neocons had to kill the memory of edmund burke, moses, jesus, homer, and russell kirk? lozlzlz! to make room for jonah goldberg’s chubby face & endless neocon betamale prattling, as his wife keeps him tame, dulling his true, inherent, lord of the flies nature? lozlzl
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– Trotsky
– Goldberg
– Kristol
– Muravchik
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
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Hey, they’re not “religious” so I guess they don’t count. Cueing Redass…
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The soft PJ / negligee tops have been around for a decade or more. They still look utterly retarded.
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Hell, on a visit to a college campus some years ago, I saw all the coeds slobbing about in frumpy sweats/PJs, flip-flops and ratty shirts.
They were 18-24, so they were smoking hot nonetheless, but they dressed like bums.
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Welcome to Athens, Georgia.
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Or Boulder, Colorado.
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Or, Portlandia…
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Women slobs (no matter their physical attractiveness level) are like men without game (no matter their physical attractiveness level). Red-pill women should be enthusiastic at the opportunity. The slobs who are “smoking hot nonetheless” are opening up a window for their less naturally endowed sisters with a fashion sense to take advantage of.
Female-maintenance level is an outward advertisement displaying how much a woman discerns the real social dynamic. If she doesn’t maintain her appearance, there’s too much work to do under the hood.
The pajamas thing is real. I first noticed it a few years ago while teaching a calculus class at a state university. Almost all of the women wore pajamas to class. It’s a common thing, now. Disgusting, really.
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That is nasty. Contaminating the classroom with all their previous night’s clitty litter as it sloughs off the twat and sprinkles out the PJ leg hole
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On-campus wear is not in the same league as wearing in public. Not the same league, not even the same sport.
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although used negatively, I do enjoy the Lebowski reference.
big love as usual heartiste
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jackie treehorn treats objects like women.
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Uh, that’s like… your opinion, man.
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People don’t go hipster strutting in PJs due to not caring about their looks. Rather it is, they get their coolness cues from the wrong places.
American (and by extension Western) culture and fashion, has been one long, slow, sad teenage rebellion against daddy, at least since Elvis started impersonating epileptics 60 years ago. Instead of trying to appear beautiful, restrained, intelligent and careful, the goal has been solely to shock daddy. The endpoint will be people walking naked down the road, or even fornicating in it (It has been done, but not really by mainstream SWPLs yet.)
With some trepidation due to NDAA, lets just hope the Taliban “wins”, and gets us back to a better future, before things go that far. “Our way” has proven F’d anyway. Might as well let someone else have a crack at it, to see if theirs turn out better.
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Well said, Stuki.
I am flattered that you have taken my advice: Vote Taliban.
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This has been happening in the UK and Ireland for a while. It’s not Whole Foods shoppers or co-eds, though, but “chavs.”. (lower class women on welfare.) I think it’s their way of thumbing their noses at society.
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I think it is their way of indicating sexual readiness, like a tramp stamp or nose ring. Seriously. It is meant to signal that they are ready for sex, if the right sort is present.
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This is an extension of college-life. You go from dorm to class wearing what you slept in and as such they feel that it can be done in the streets.
Some good public shaming can take care of that.
“Final exams? Studying is hard but you can get A’s without looking like shit/crap/hamper/etc.”
(the last word is tailored to if I am interested in the girl, etc.)
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Then, there’s this: Feminist hacks attacking Paleo/primal lifestyle because it’s “too male.” Translation: Being athletic is “too male.” Yet another excuse for women not to get off of their asses.
http://thefeministwire.com/2012/01/paleo-politics-or-return-of-the-caveman/
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In other news, Iowa is too white.
Soon it will be: Whites are too alive.
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And another reason to throw oneself into the primal lifestyle.
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LINDSAY writes,
“I’m a feminist and a paleo-type-person. I just wanted to say that, yeah, there is a ton of gross gender normativity and white cisgender straight male privilege in the paleosphere. However, there is also plenty of non-essentialist or simplistic recognition of the wisdom and diversity of indigenous cultures, particularly in terms of politics or gender. It’s not monolithic. But, I agree, it does need lots of work.
I am a huge fan of modernity (birth control and vaccines FTW), and I think when paleo-stuff gets a little too into the paleolithic fantasy, it’s annoying and often offensive. But I guess I just feel like, as nasty as the bathwater might be, the baby has something worthwhile going on. There are quite a few of us paleo-eating, barefoot-running feminists out there. We’re trying to keep things sane.”
What the fuck did I just read? is that in English? can you imagine trying to communicate a tenth of this vicious garble to an ancient Saxon?
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Oi, what babble!
I couldn’t imagine trying to pass a hundreth of it on to a modern Saxon.
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Ancient Saxons would have no patience for this nonsense. Nor would have Charlemagne or Frederick I Barbarossa.
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That article is the best comedy I’ve seen in ages. Here is some gold from one of the commenters:
“I’m a feminist and a paleo-type-person. I just wanted to say that, yeah, there is a ton of gross gender normativity and white cisgender straight male privilege in the paleosphere. However, there is also plenty of non-essentialist or simplistic recognition of the wisdom and diversity of indigenous cultures, particularly in terms of politics or gender. It’s not monolithic. But, I agree, it does need lots of work.”
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And deleted. But the cached version from Google is still available:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:nDRhRENRABAJ:thefeministwire.com/2012/01/paleo-politics-or-return-of-the-caveman/
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They have “pajama day” in some schools now. My young cousin who is 11 told me this and all I could do was shake my head in disbelief.
Brainwash em early and they’ll grow up to believe it’s cute to look like you just rolled out of bed.
I haven’t been to Europe yet but I hear the women are much more conscious about their appearance – especially in places like France.
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One doesn’t go out in public wearing sweats for instance. Not if you want people to think you have a future and a job. Otherwise, casual but neat is pretty common.
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Dear Neecy,
As an european I can confirm what you heard from women and men. And It is worth saying that it’s a good attitude in life to be conscious about one’s appearance.
The bests looks can be seen in Italy, France and Spain.
Best regards.
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So I hear Lord! I can’t wait to visit these places and see for myself. I live in California where its even worse than the East coast. I will admit to loving shorts and boots with a tee but even that can be dressed up somewhat (its traditional Valley girl wear, where I am from).
But even East Coasteners dress very nicely on average. But I hear Europe the women are hardcore and dress up daily and always look well put together.
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Dear Neecy,
Here it’s common to see well dressed women with high heeled shoes or boots. And always looking well put together is a must not only for women but also for men.
In special events is when women really shine and it’s not uncommon to spend great money in a dress that is going to be used only once.
And don’t forget shoes, a good pair of shoes are the best man’s friend and women too.
Best regards!
Lord Dorian
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That’s good. I think there is more to just dressing nicely or appropriatley than looking good on the outside. When you dress nicely as a woman, you actually do feel good about yourself. It may have something to do with pride.
Someone posted this video on my site (its an 80’s rock hair band vidoe). But what intrigued me the most was how beautiful the woman was in the video and she had on a a long flowy feminine WHite dress, stockings and ankle boots. She looked beautiful without looking trashy or sloppy. Too bad women don’t dress and look like this anymore. OH WELLS!
(I’m terrible with embedding so I hope it shows up correctly. If not its a video by RATT called “lay it down”)
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1) Feminsim is NOT anti-beauty/pro-frump! There are plenty of feminists who like to wear designer clothes, wear makeup, and/or take the time each day to make themselves look beautiful. Jessica Valenti said it best (and I’m paraphrasing here): “I like to wear makeup. I just realize that I’m only wearing it because society tells me I’ll look ugly without it.” Feminism is about finding the beauty within yourself, makeup or no.
2) Feminists aren’t anti-men/family, either. There are tons of feminists who are married with children. Tons. And not all feminists are pro-abortion, either; that’s actually one of the most contested issues in the feminist community.
3) And feminists are most definitely not against women/girls playing sports! If anything, that’s anti-feminism.
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As CH said, feminism is anti-standards (for women, at least). In the absence of standards, the lowest common denominator prevails.
Feminism talks a lot about breaking the glass ceiling, but in practice it breaks the glass floor and plunges women into darkness.
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How can feminism be anti-standards? If there aren’t standards, there isn’t society; there’s only anarchy!
And what do you mean by “in practice”? What are some examples?
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Accountability to the law for one. When that’s equal, you might have an argument. Today, women can shoot their husband while he’s asleep and then claim abuse, without evidence, to hide their own dissolute behavior and then seek custody of their own children after murdering their father and get celebrated on Oprah.
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How is that the fault of feminism? Really? Are feminists going around advocating that women shoot their husbands? No.
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Yes it is feminism’s fault, because feminism pushed for letting women who murder their husbands while they sleep go free.
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Actually, they are. You need to learn more about your movement.
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feminism is only an ideology adapted by mislead and delussioned mass of women who are embracing musculinity and empowerment thereby missing a part of them called femininity and submission “the ultimate assertion of female empowerment resides in surrendering completely”
but which they trully miss in their heart, and may not consciusly admit but more often is the greatest gift an alphamale could give to a woman, that is why she is loyal to the alpha, because the gift is giving them back their femininity that betas and kitchen bitches who make them feel supperior cannot give them. but still these women call themselves feminist althogh you see that she has been carved once again into a woman like a stone carved into michaelangelo’s David.
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“there’s only anarchy!”
And the state of affairs today is nothing like anarchy.
/swirls ice cubes in scotch
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We judge feminists by their actions, not how they tell the world they are.
Feminists kind of look different when you’re not one.
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Really? How so?
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1) Feminists don’t have inner beauty to find. They are some of the most annoying, angry, hateful, bitchy, entitled, pain-in-the-ass people on the planet. If you could see their souls it would look like maggots chewing rotten meat.
2) No fault divorce, alimony, default mother custody, DV laws, and the feminization of boys through both the public school system and the medical field is about as anti-male as you can get without concentration camps and gas chambers.
3) Judging from the female fat I see displayed on a daily basis, if feminists are pro sports their message has fallen on deaf ears.
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1) Really? You know every single feminist in the world? You’ve stopped to have a conversation with every single one? Even the ones that are in loving, happy relationships (or seem to be, anyway–it could just be all those secret acting classes we’ve been taking that make it seem so)? When you’ve accomplished this feat, then come back to me.
2) Divorce is anti-male? What about the women who get divorced by men? What about the hurt feelings on both sides? It’s not like women just walk away and start hosting neo-bachelorette parties five hours after. Can’t alimony go to either party? And who’s to say that all feminists think default mother custody is fair? And what exactly is so unfair about no-fault divorce and domestic violence laws? And on a different tack: since when is the idea that men, just like women, can choose to be whatever they want to be or like whatever they want to like anti-male? (BTW: making light of the Holocaust is not only not funny–it’s insensitive, rude, and totally trivializes everything that it stood for.)
3) Femininists stand for the idea that women can do whichever sport THEY please; if they don’t want to do any kind of sport, that’s fine, too. It’s not feminists’ job to make sure people get up and exercise. People know how to take care of themselves.
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1)2)3)shutup you fat cunt.
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Who needs to meet them all. Look at your spokespeople. Its a veritable parade of centerfold models out there. Women initiate 70% of divorces and men seldom if ever get custody. Parental alienation syndrome is played off as an angry male fantasy rather than the profound and common injustice that it is. Your movement goes to great length to ban genetic testing to control for paternity fraud and your movement has worked diligently behind the scenes, mostly in the 90s to change divorce laws to heavily favor women. Your movement has gone to great lengths to make normal male behavior a crime. Your movement is little more than a female supremacist movement that will undermine advanced society because it marginalizes and alienates the very people who created it for your sake, men. DV laws are heavily skewed in favor of women, to the point that they ar immue from DV charges although they are more often the initiating party and commit at least half of all DV. But its the men who get arrested and lost their civil rights- like the one to bear arms. Men get no fair day in divorce court. Divorce has become nothing but a means to steal mens’ money and cripple them socially and economically. Your movement is evil and does not represent what you wish it did. You’rea fool and a useful idiot. I bet you’re getting gina tingles now:).
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1) Those “people” you’re talking about (and by the way, I’d really like to see who exactly you think are the the “spokespeople” for feminism)? They don’t speak for me. I don’t need a spokesperson; I’m perfectly capable of voicing my opinions. I don’t let anyone speak for me without my permission, with the exception of my parents; and that’s because I know that they love me and know me well enough to see what I want and know what’s best for me. I’m pretty sure that this goes for most (if not all) feminists.
2) Are feminists the ones telling women to get divorces? Exactly which laws have feminists had passsed that “favored women”? And what exactly do you constitute as “normal male behavior”? And how exactly are women immune from domestic violence charges? Which DV laws are in favor of women?
3) You’re saying that my movement “doesn’t represent what I wish it did”. Even if it doesn’t, who’s to say that I, as well as other women, aren’t trying to make it true? How do you know that feminism isn’t changing, growing into something even better than what it was before?
4) No. I’m not. That wasn’t nearly as funny as you wish it was.
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You’ve convinced me even more that you’re a fool and a useful idiot. Read “Rantings of A Single Male” by Thomas Ellis and “The Manipulated Man” by Esther Villar.
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The ones that make policy are the dangerous ones and they are as radical as any others. Women who claim they are not like that are more than happy to free ride off of the tyrannical ones. To me at this point, there is no such thing as a good feminist, just like there’s no such thing as a good communist. You’re all evil and need to be put in your place. Now be a good girl and make me a sandwich and bring me a beer.
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What do you mean by that? Who are the people “making the policies”? What “policies” are you talking about? When you say that people are “riding off of the tyrannical ones”, do you mean rich women? Middle-class women? There probably some women like this who want to change some laws but not others because they’re priveleged like that, but feminism is now an option for minorities, lower-class women (that are informed of it) that want to get their piece of the pie. And why aren’t there any good feminists? Why am I evil? Because I believe in equality between the sexes? Tell me why you think that I’m “evil and need to be put in my place”.
And no–if catering to some guy that insults me for no reason means I’m a good girl, then I refuse. You’re a man–if you’re old enough to drink beer and able to type on a computer, then you should have enough mental and physical capability to make your own sandwich. I’m not your maid.
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To be honest, I would put the usual suspects as the NYC NOW, the CA NOW and the entire womens’ publishing industry for starters. Other groups include WANDAS and the current crop of Internet feminazis. You’re also in close allianec with the various flavors of LGBT groups. You commies love to change your organizational names constantly to create the apprearance of a larger movement than actually exists.
Don’t be so naive as to think that yours is some kind of grass roots movement. Its not. It was created and backed by the 1% you are useful idiots for. As to who benefits, or thinks they do, its mostly careerist upper class women at the expense of working class women. The 1% benefit by creating a new pool of impoverished serfs and beats down the future competition. Don’t be so deliberately stupid. Think a little bit. We’ve gone to the effort of learning your ideology. You need to learn ours, except it might confuse that little head of yours. You really need some alpha cock, I can tell.
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I love your rebuttal Tyrone and agree with most of the points, specifically the no-fault divorce and paternity fraud. I’ve seen the liberal, man-hating feminist bull crap firsthand in my profession, nursing, but more so when I was getting my degree.
I was forced to take a woman’s studies course as one of my core classes and the prof said up front that she didn’t want to hear any dissenting viewpoints whatsoever. It was a semester of male violence (we’re born to kill, it’s embedded in our DNA), how we force them into anorexia, fit a “stereotype of beauty” (you should accept us as we are!) and a shit load of nonsense like that. In one of my nursing courses, one of my profs refused to cover any male disease processes and when I asked her about it, because you know half of our patients will be male, she told me if I want to learn about it, I can “read a book”.
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She didn’t let anyone disagree with her? What kind of women’s studies class is THAT? You should report that to the administration at your university and get that fixed. No one who calls herself a professor should refuse to change her opinions or limit herself (and her students!) like that. And all that stuff she said sounds like crap. No one is “born to kill”, and while there is a stereotype of beauty, it’s the media that enforces it, not men pushing it on women (at least, not usually).
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1) At NOW NYC and California NOW, I saw nothing but a group of women that are against rape, discrimination, and other acts of women; and for women’s leadership, reproductive rights, and laws that help give women a better fighting chance. I didn’t see anything for WANDAS, though–just a band and some other random things. What’s wrong with being associated with LGBT groups? And did you ever think that feminism just might be more popular than you think it is? Or maybe all these groups focus on different facets of the same thing.
2) I know feminism didn’t start from the bottom up. Feminism in the 1920s basically started because rich/middle-class white women were angry about the fact that black men got to vote and they didn’t; and the 70s still largely focused on the concerns of rich/middle-class women. But this new 21st century feminism is now becoming intertwined with eradicating racism and classim, and extending its reach to, like I said, non-whites and poorer people.
3) What exactly is your ideology? And no, I don’t. I’m not into bestiality.
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You’re either obtuse or deliberately playing stupid.
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And you’re stil not answering my questions.
[heartiste: you do not ask your questions with the intent of wanting an answer.
but u knew that already.]
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Oh, that’s rich… feminism now becoming intertwined with eradicating racism and extending its reach to non-whites…
Behind the Mickey Mouse pseudo-morality and high-falutin’ faux nobility that you might THINK you’re in league with…
It’s really just a movement of envy and a game of “displace the White man”… with a soupçon of collective neglected female subconscious crying out “LOOK AT ME DADDY! I’ll SHOW YOU!”.
And boy, are you broads in for a surprise at the treatment you’ll get when your beloved non-whites rule the roost!
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So you’re outing ourself as a communist then? That’s good news. I had no idea. I thought you were Christian SoCon trying to shame me for having a pee pee. I’ll let you see it for $5! If you don’t tell anyone, I’ll let you touch it for $10. Whooooo Hoooooo! We got a winner! I’m unzipping my pants now. BTW, do you ever watch Ultimate Surrender videos on Youporn? How about Back Room Casting Couch?
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Halisi, it only tastes good if YOU make it. Aw honey, don’t be that way.
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“I’m not your maid.”
I’ll say. You ask too many fucking questions. Are you three years old? Who do I mean by that? What is a maid? What “sandwich” are you talking about? When you say that you are not my maid, do you mean you have never sucked a cock, swallowed the cum thereof, and told the bearer of said cock that it “tasted good”? or simply “mmmm”? Tell me why I shouldn’t want to shut you up with a fist in the mouth.
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I only want people to clarify what they’re saying. is that wrong?
Don’t answer that.
[heartiste: clarification is not your problem. your problem is that you won’t listen.]
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to which people are you referring? what do you mean by clarify? what connotation of saying are you using? how do you define they? what is meant by wrong?
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No, you aren’t. You’re asking questions to delegitimize the answers. If all the questions aren’t answered you’ll say we didn’t sufficiently back up our stance. If the questions were answered, you’ll just ask more irrelevant questions.
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^^^ This ^^^
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Halisi: your statements are at odds with reality. For fifty years feminists have been agitating against “the beauty myth” and “socially constructed standards.” Feminism is entirely anti-beauty, and for you to deny this means you’re either entirely ignorant of feminism, or you’re entirely dishonest. Or both.
Feminism is entirely anti-men and anti-family. The entire ideological basis of the movement is hatred and envy of men. And there are no anti-abortion or pro-family women in feminism. Abortion is the single defining issue of feminism, and any deviation from the party line means you’re a heretic to be destroyed. For you to say that it’s a contested issue again means you’re either shockingly ignorant or simply dishonest.
I’ll give you number 3. Feminists like sports. Women’s sports, at least. That’s one in three points where you’re not totally wrong.
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1) Feminists (or at least the ones I know and/or have read from) just want a world where the beauty that people possess themselves are appreciated–not just an unattainable, unrealistic standard. And how can feminists be against socially constructed standards as a whole? That’s impossible–you can’t have a society without standards (unless you live in an anarchy). Feminists are, like I said, the unrealistic ones.
2) How is feminism anti-men or anti-family? What ideological basis did you get this from? Seriously, tell me; I want to know what your sources are. And no, abortion isn’t the defining part of feminism–women’s rights and equality with men are. I know plenty of feminists that abhor abortion completely, and want it to be illegal because of religions, principles, etc; I also know feminists that would never get an abortion themselves, but are pro-choice because they believe that women should be able to make that choice for themselves; and I know feminists that have had one or more abortion(s). It most certainly is a contested issue. Feminists aren’t one huge monolith; we don’t all think with the same brain.
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Prepare to be boarded.
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What? That sentence made absolutely no sense. Care to elaborate?
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You’re just stupid and naive. Its what you say in the Navy when you’re about to take control of an enemy vessel.
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your opinion on this
why is marriage declining in the US
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16274740
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I read that article too. Um, because guys realize they’ll lose half of their assets if they divorce?
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This is but a step in the same direction women’s fashions have taken for the last decade. If you look closely, you will see women wear what 10-15 years ago would have been considered lingerie but is now considered outerwear.
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I sometimes see girls walking around in slippers and pajamas bottoms at the mall. To be honest I find it cute. Wouldn’t want every girl doing it though, I’m still waiting for stockings to make a comeback.
Come on ladies, more stockings less PJs please.
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Tights yes. Stocking are a pain in the arse. I’ll admit they do look good, but I’m not necessarily looking forward to that come back.
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I mean panty hose but I always use the word stockings because I like it better.
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Some girls will show up dressed like shit just to see how desperate you are. Especially the really hot ones, ’cause they know they don’t have to put any effort in and every guy will still want to fuck them because that’s what they’re used to.
When you open the door and they’re wearing sweatpants, look them down and up slowly, turn them by the shoulders, give them a spank them on the ass and say “Try again.” and close and lock your door. You can calmly and authoritatively explain your standards in txt when they inevitably bitch you out. They either won’t come back (good, why do you want to fuck a girl who doesn’t take care of her looks?), or they’ll come back dressed properly and mad at you (but they love the drama, so they’re horny as fuck despite the pretending to be mad). Either way is a win.
I usually have this discussion ahead of time though, when we’re just txting about shit I’ll steer the conversation towards dressing up and let them know I’ve kicked girls out for thinking they could come over looking like shit. That snuffs the problem out before it happens.
Definitely hate the trend. I’ve been to cities where the women dress like women and eat healthy and work out and it’s just a fucking gorgeous-fest in all directions.
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Why would you spank them? That’s disgusting, and completely disrespectful! No wonder they didn’t come back!
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Women love spankings, especially when you’re in them doggie style and tearing up that P-hole, making them scream for joy.
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I despise ass-spanking.
A sound slap is like fifty Viagras to my falling erection.
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I wasn’t going to spank you.
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UGH!!!
Where I live in China, going out in public in pajamas is considered “xiangbalao” or country hick style. The government has made campaigns to convince people to stop doing this, because it looks ridiculous. It IS uncivilized, because people can’t be bothered to change clothes before going out. It also has that stigma of “I’m a local of this place because I wouldn’t go far in just my pajamas.” Sort of like bringing a little dog with you to a bar in central Tokyo (can’t take dogs on the subway).
Funny thing is, Chinese people who visit America and see Americans wearing pajamas in public? What will they think? Sophisticated, elegant hipsters on the edgy rim of fashion? Hell no, they’ll think “oh my God, Americans are xiangbalao too…I thought they were a high-tech country!”
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My Dearest Beloveds –
Despair at such news (about this feminazi PJ crap) is your beta brain gasping for life. Excitement at this new booty busting opportunity is the throbbing pulse of a new game.
Lads, if we are going to pretend to be Alpha – and as an Man grasping for Alphatude I mean “pretend” in the sense of “contend”, as one might pretend/contend to be the King – then we MUST engage this pajama crap knowing that ir can be co-opted by a venturesome gamer into hottie banging nirvana.
There are so many possible situations here, and I am so drunk, that covering them all is beyond the scope of this post.
However, in a “common dressing” scenario (of, say, lots of PJs), the neg, social, and value scoring possibilities become PUA friendly for ambitious Betas looking to move up a notch.
To wit:
PJs have flaps. Or not. The point being, ASK about them, in a teasing neg, if possible. This can lead as deep into the coal mine as you are willing to go.
PJs look good. Or not. The point being, CONTRAST them unfavorably from your target against another chick. The more public and subtle you pull this off, the better.
PJs make a statement. Or not. The point being, acknowledge (and, of course, neg) the “innocence” and “exploratory” subtext of the PJ beaver whilst working a touchy-feely move towards relief and satisfaction.
PJs rarely have shoes, and beavers CRAVE shoes. The possibilities here are potent – use them.
Lads, this is just my scattershooting about a starting point. The innocence (stupidity/duplicity) of the beaver dam you are busting up is a factor for you to choose to engage.
Know hope, know that a million years of biology have your back, and happy hunting.
And that is what the Bibo Sez.
Bless you!
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So how do I pick up the chick in the pjs.
Oh right this isn’t a game blog this is a venue for the sexually frustrated.
SWPL > Internet nerds
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“I just realize that I’m only wearing it because society tells me I’ll look ugly without it”
Aka
“I’ve succumbed to the irrefutable truth that my value to society is contingent upon my ability to look healthy, youthful and fertile.”
2) Just because a person is married, does not mean he/she is happy, or happier than they were unmarried. Pro Abortion? Like Pro-Choice? Why wouldn’t you be pro-choice? Because you’re going to be there in the ghettos where these unwanted babies are being raised as individuals with nothing to lose? Society has an economic incentive to keep abortions rolling, we don’t need more poor babies in this world.
3) So masculine women (Feminists) are for girls playing in sports? To the “equal funding at the detriment of traditional sports institutions” degree, or the “we play with a bigger ball, shorter tee, lighter gloves, and have no real professional leagues to speak of, but we’re equal!”
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“I just realize that I’m only wearing it because society tells me I’ll look ugly without it”
Aka
“I’ve succumbed to the irrefutable truth that my value to society is contingent upon my ability to look healthy, youthful and fertile.”
I think you’re wrong. Value to society is something else than reproductive value. This Jessica is probably just sad that she’s not a natural beauty and has to put make up on her face to feel better. I think she’s right in a way – we’re obsessed with unattainable ideals.
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1) Uh, no.
2) Well, duh; but if marriage was completely useless, then no one would get married. Plain and simple. And that wasn’t my point on abortion; I was trying to say that feminism doesn’t require that you be pro-life or pro-choice; feminists are allowed to make their own choices.
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Marriage is very useful for extracting wealth from men and making them subservient to the state and their wives, so they can have a chance to see their children.
Halisi, what you don’t see is how you crave alpha cock more than you can possibly imagine. Deep down, that’s really all you’re angry about. Come be one of my wives in my newly formed church and I will make you happy beyond your wildest dreams. Deep down, its what you need and want. Come there, nurse on my pee pee and make it all better.
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Tyrone, what is with all of your constant attempts to sexualize me? Does this excite you or something? If it does, please try to find pleasure elsewhere–I’m not interested. Please stop; it’s becoming extremely creepy (it passed disgusting a long time ago).
[heartiste: don’t feed the troll.
unless you want to toy with it.]
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You know, I’m just a loser living in my mom’s basement masturbating to Internet porn and I was hoping I could finally get a girl to talk to me. You mean I offended you? Do I make you feel uncomfortable? I should probably be arrested and thrown in prison for the rest of my life for offending the sisterhood.
BTW, are you a baby killer too? Do you have any abortion death porn pix I can have? I love seeing fetuses with their heads ripped open and stuff like that. I really enjoy it when they’re born alive and you can put them in the storage room until they die slowly and painfully from neglect. I think part’s really cool. I’ll feel really progressive when I can throw men in prison at my whim for even talking to women and then abort fetuses in the same day. Maybe we can use the fetuses to feed the men we imprison and be green as well!
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And those, by the way, are not my views. I’d never abort any baby of mine, whether I was raped, had consensual sex but didn’t use protection, the condom broke, etc. I see a fetus as a baby, and could never kill one. And men can’t get thrown into prison for just talking to women; that’s just stupid. They can, however go to jail for abusing and/or raping them.
Your last paragraph reminds me: I have a book for you to read, as well. It’s called Cunt, by a woman named Inga Muscio. It’s an amazing book.
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And if you do read it, you don’t have to agree with everything she says. I don’t. But I do think that the overwhelming majority of what she says is both beautiful and true.
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I don’t really care who these people are, if they were pajamas in public they should be beaten up (not fatally of course, just to make a point, I’m not a Nazi).
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OMG LOL!!!!
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1) Jessica Valenti is ugly, make up or no make up – it radiates from her bitter, twisted soul
2) Bullshit
3) Fuck off you feminist whore.
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1) Really? You’ve met Jessica? You’ve read her blog? You’ve had any experience at all with her personally besides my one, two-sentence, paraphrased phrase? Do tell!
2) In what way?
3) Think of some better comebacks than a cliched cheap shot, and maybe I’ll consider it…
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I had drunken consensual sex with Jessica and she accused me of rape despite texting me and thanking me for the best and deepest orgasm of ehr young life. After eight years in prison, I’m out for revenge and so are all of my friends.
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I’m pretty sure that that didn’t happen, because 1) you’ve probably never even met her, and 2) even if you had and she’d texted you, she would’ve been proven a liar in court because we now have the power to dredge up old text messages…
Rape isn’t a joke; it’s a vile, horrific crime.
[heartiste: but not as vile as murder.]
Quit trying to make it into one.
[which is more vile: rape, or cutting off a man’s penis while he sleeps?]
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Well you know Jessica said I had raped her and didn’t even realize it. She said that when she said yes, she didn’t really mean it as yes and I should have known enough to realize it. I’m so ashamed! Please absolve me of my sins.
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You mean there’s hope we can have your approval after all? This makes me soooooo happy!
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Let’s cut to the chase: why don’t you just piss off, halitosis?
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“I haven’t been to Europe yet but I hear the women are much more conscious about their appearance – especially in places like France.”
Of course.
Want to look good when they get gang-raped by Muslims/Africans.
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Nearly 30% of the United States is black or South American. That is from official figures and likely does not represent the reality. By contrast, Blacks in England total only 3%, Indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshi less than 5%.
Taking digs at Europe may make you feel better, but it does not eliminate the very real issue at your door.
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lolzozlzozozozoozzozoozozozozozzzz
“say ALLAHBU AKBAR, bitch!”
“ils sont juste comme nous, sont francais aussi, les beurs … “
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All “modern” women dress like men, or like slobs, or like cast iron bulldykes.
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If I see a couple in pajamas at my local grocery store I might just strip down to boxers right in front of them, then scratch my nuts before handling the produce.
I wouldn’t bother doing this at Walmart though. Nobody would notice.
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They would if you were thin.
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On my fat days, when I can’t fit into my jeans, I’ll keep my pajamas pants on.
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1. You must buy jeans that fit. Clothes that you can squeeze into do not indicate that they are your size. See those slovenly women who wear skinny jeans that slip halfway down their arses.
2. Ditch the jeans. Here is a secret that will improve any women’s luck with men: do anything you can that will accentuate your femininity. High-waisted skirts and tights or stockings underneath worn daily will make any man gaga and is so unlike how the majority of women dress that you will go up in his value.
The hilarious irony of the last point is the only group to follow the latter point to a T are trannies. Women, take your cues of how to dress, walk and wear your make-up from transvesties. I am deadly serious.
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Fat knows no calendar.
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Holy hamster alert llzolzozlollzoozllozllzz!!
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/08/fashion/why-men-cant-stand-to-be-alone-after-a-breakup-or-a-divorce.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all
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This post is several years behind schedule. We’ve been here for a while.
Oh, and that girl who wears pajamas to work? Filed a formal sexual harrassment complaint against me when I wouldn’t get down with her. Add that to your portrait.
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“2) Feminists aren’t anti-men/family, either. There are tons of feminists who are married with children. Tons.”
Yes, tons. Literally.
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Good one.
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Ah, yes; playing up the old, “all feminists are fat and unattractive” stereotype. Nice one.
(No, seriously; I have to appreciate the comeback, even though I think the sentiment behind–see “fat and unattractive stereotype”–is total crap.)
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Chill, bitch. It’s just a joke.
Now fuck off.
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Chicks wearing what looks like pyjamas has been commonplace in Sweden for atleast the past… 14 years or so. We´re not talking yoga pants either. To me it’s like the feminist equivalent of Burqas.
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At least some stores forbid those clothes, since usually they have not pockets a lot of those idiots arrive at the cashier just to realize they have not money or cards…
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LOL. Just too good.
http://www.bakadesuyo.com/5-things-you-didnt-know-about-infidelity
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A hot chick in pajamas is still a hot chick.
The real problem is obesity. Fat women need to be shamed.
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Re: Friendzone level 99 tweet.
That’s a bag of skittles he’s holding. He’s using it like a talisman, confident in its legendary powers, but tragically taking the parable too literally.
The Power of Skittles Compels You. The Power of Skittles Compels You.
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I may just have nightmares after seeing that.
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having a good chuckle at the halisi troll.
Suited Down is the only way to roll.
Eventually it will all come full circle and college freshmen will rebel by showing up in immaculate custom suits and leather soled shoes.
Until then, I’ll seek that imagined utopia where men are men, and wouldn’t be caught without a tie on an evening out, and women wouldn’t dream of bringing less than their A-game cocktail dresses and heels.
American women get dolled up nicely for a small handful of occasions in their entire lives: mostly other people’s weddings. Never for their own man. Only when on the prowl. Even at your own wedding, the bridesmaids get the sexy dresses while your bride gets the frumpy ‘let’s pretend I’m virginal’ dress.
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“Eventually it will all come full circle and college freshmen will rebel by showing up in immaculate custom suits and leather soled shoes.”
This, nearly, is happening on my campus, after years of a frumpy/ pajama norm.
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Really? What about you makes me want to laugh?
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I know you are so what am I?
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I’m rubber, you’re glue. Whatever you say, bounces off of me and sticks to you!
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I’m a rebel Dottie!
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That is not what I said. I said, “What about me makes you want to laugh?” The moderator is messing with my comments!
[heartiste: no one messed with your comments. they stand alone in their assininity.]
BTW, would you mind answering the question? I’m curious.
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The fact that you are feminist apologist # 10,873,362 that comes here and makes the exact same statements and uses the exact same methods of argument.
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I have an ex like halisi.
Simply questioning straightforward propositions in this endless fashion appears to be a defensive formation to shield them from accepting uncomfortable truths about the world / themselves. It is not “honest” in the way that a child will ask recursive questions in genuine curiosity.
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For example, the ex will text :
“He is moving to New Zealand. What can I do to?”
uh: “Nothing. Don’t you know who lives in NZ? Tall blond girls who surf. Pretty sure he’ll trade in. [I nearly said ‘up’.]”
“I don’t understand. Why would that matter? Am I not pretty enough? I have been told by many women that I am pretty … ”
Same old hamster, but here it comes armed with pointless, faux-naive question marks to dodge reality.
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@ uh
If you’re so tired of my questions, then why don’t you answer them in a way that will satisfy me?
[heartiste: the problem with you cunty feminists is that you will never be satisfied with any answer that doesn’t 100% confirm your prejudices jot and tittle.
heh, he said tittle.]
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I think that ‘constantly question everything the opponent says’ is a technique they teach in Wymyn’s Studies departments and Jewish private schools… something about keeping the other guy on the defensive… meh.
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It’s definitely Alinsky-style tactics.
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1: I’ve never taken a women’s studies class.
[heartiste: doesn’t matter. you’re soaking in it.]
2: I’m Christian, not Jewish.
[god has a penis.]
3: I definitely want definitive answers to my question.
[definitely definitely? or definitely farted?]
All I want is for him to simply back up what he’s been saying with definitive proof and really say what his position is.
[there is a link to the feminism-destroying study right in the blog post. knock yourself out.]
I want him to tell me his position on what he thinks the dynamics between men and women should be.
[penis inserts into vagina.
hth.]
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I ran into an otherwise cute female at the supermarket last night pushing her cart in pajamas. It was 8:30pm. I think its pathetic, but I guess its better than placing an order online from home in your pajamas.
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http://www.gallup.com/poll/151970/Slightly-Fewer-Americans-Obese-2011.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=syndication&utm_content=morelink&utm_term=All%20Gallup%20Headlines
This makes me wonder, did they just change the definitions again?
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Have you noticed how many women wear the skin tight black tights now? Sometimes it’s okay but now the fatties and middle aged women are doing it.
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If I EVER get hold of whatever fashion advisor or Cosmo intern started the fat girls of America believing that tights and oversized sweatshirts make them look thin, I will fucking strangle her. I swear by almighty God.
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Women in what used to be the Eastern-Bloc countries, are especially conscious of their appearance and it shows. They also tend to be more “feminine” than what passes as such in the US. It is quite a culture shock to see so many women who in the US would be a solid 8. Of course, you acclimatize and that 8 becomes a 6 as your scale adjusts. And the real kicker is they are nice too. Soft-spoken and sweet becomes your “norm” for female behavior…
Then you come back to the US, and your opinion of American women plummets. You really notice those extra 10 – 20 lbs, as well as their horrendous lack of care in their appearance and just how crude they are, while thinking they are gorgeous.
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…and Eastern-bloc men are more masculine and hotter than American men. American men are fat, sit on the couch or behind a computer screen, lazy, emotional, dress sloppy, think women should fark them just because they exist and are controlled by their insecurity.
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Except I know for a fact that EE men won’t have anything to do with our women. The same is generally true of all Europeans. AW simply can’t compete overseas and work hard to conceal the fact.
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It’s kind of funny to see their mute, shellshocked faces in Lan Kwai Fong and the like.
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And the LORD said: Thou shalt lie down with the antelope, but lay ye not with the buffalo.
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I realize that feminism as held by many is because of egalitarian good intentions, but since it is both anti-woman & anti-men at it’s heart, Feminism is anti-human, and should be opposed at every opportunity.
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No, it’s not. That would be racism, sexism, classism, and the like.
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racism, sexism, and classism for thee but not for me.
You’re the ones doing all the deciding who gets to be class enemy No. 1, not us. This is just pushback and speakign truth to power at this point. I think you need a spanking, you naughty little girl you!:)
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Oh its been a long time since I’ve thought of “egalitarian” as good.
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[…] There’s a recent post at Heartiste entitled Pajama Feminism, you can read it here. […]
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@ John Howard:
This is Halisi, BTW. I guess I’m “Troll” now. Whatever.
[heartiste: the term of art is: whatevs.]
On your 5:18 p.m. comment:
[such a diligent timestamp record.]
1) My relationship with my father is perfectly fine, thank you.
[so he hits you in places that don’t leave marks? that’s a relief!]
2) Of course all US feminists aren’t white.
[i heard the bruisings don’t show as much on black skin.]
That’d be impossible. And when you say “non-whites”, which non-whites are you speaking about?
[greeks.]
What do you think they’re going to do once they “rule the roost”?
[fuck the hens.]
This isn’t some attempt to confuse you.
[no, babbling comes naturally to you.]
Please actually answer my questions.
[using tampons manufactured by men is not rape.]
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Girl, your entitlement attitude drips like venom in these posts… we’re all here to answer your interminable and inane questions?
Fast example (and only this one, toots): You mentioned how feminism was now “intertwining” with non-whites in the fight against racism… and then you have the hide to ask me “which non-whites are you speaking about?” when I say that naive White women such as yourself are in for a shock when said non-whites hold sway?
Ask yourself this (which should be obvious to anyone with half an eye/brain): in which country/society governed by predominantly non-whites do women have anywhere near the safety, quality of life, and equal rights as they do in the West?
You know, that area of the world where the big bad White man has been oppressing everyone?
You want to fight against racism, start with those non-whites who, if we were one-tenth as racist as they are, they’d truly have cause for worry.
Now please, avaunt and annoy another forum with your inanity.
Better yet, take a few biology classes and realize that women weren’t put on this earth to be ersatz men… they were put here to propagate the species… and anything else is mere vanity.
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1) Uh, no. I never said that you people existed only to answer my questions. But when someone is in a debate, they should be fully prepared to answer any questions that might be given.
2) Yup. I asked you those questions. You know why? Because there are many different groups of non-whites that exist in the US (which I’m assuming is the country we’re talking about). So I’m just going to assume that you meant that one day in the not-so-distant future, all of these groups are going to rise up together and kill all the whites (of which I am not one, BTW). All because of feminsim. Oh, and anti-racism.
3) I can name two countries that are making huge strides in women’s rights: Liberia and Yemen. Liberia just democratically elected its first female president; not to mention that all of its women recently banded together to fight off its warlords. And Yemen’s women are currently engaged in a non-violent struggle for women’s safety and women’s rights. In fact, Liberia’s president, Ellen Johnson Sirleaf; Leymah Gbowee, an activist who was at the forefront of the fight against the warlords; and Tawakkul Karman, the Yemeni journalist who is also fighting for her rights in her own country, were all recently awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 2011.
4) Just remember that women in the US have had to wait a century to get as far as they have today. And look how much there still is to be done.
5) You can’t just blame the whites or the non-whites, because now there are sick, twisted people on both sides. Why start on just one group when you can start on them all?
6) You can’t just say, “It’s biology!” and expect the conversation to be over. Our society is completely different than it was during pre-history. Than it was at the beginning of history, even. The roles for men and women during those times are almost completely arbitrary now, thanks to modern technologies.
[heartiste: can you get it through your peabrain that the studies are DIRECTLY CONTRADICTING everything you say and everything you believe in? Do you not get this, fool? Or does a fact not mean a fact in your world?
Rhetoricals.]
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I should have known you weren’t White… shame on me.
And with that, the conversation shouldn’t have even started… a horse breeder shouldn’t bother discussing thoroughbred linage with a muleskinner… it’s a waste of the former’s time, and it merely annoys the latter.
And when you bring up countries like Yemen and (oh gawd) Liberia as shining examples of anything, and imagine that the wimmins be holding off the warlords, well… the conversation is definitely over.
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Okay, then. Just ignore the fact that these women were all awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. Doesn’t that mean something?
I think either some of them have books out. I’ll have to find the titles and give them to you.
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Not since they gave one to Al Gore and Prince Opie.
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I recommend Liberia as it has a nicer climate and water. You’ll be a big hit with all the Bufallo girls!
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@ John Howard, continued:
BTW:
Feminists don’t want to “displace” white men. They simply want women to be represented fairly in politics and social media.
[heartiste: well then, they’d better get to beating men for the jobs! or do women need a helping hand? you know, what with women being the weaker sex and all.]
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you’re representing your ilk quite well on this blog.
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Like milk on silk.
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Why does this site let a crazy women who knows nothing comment at all? She keeps asking the same stupid questions over and over. I understand the long ride on the short bus is boring, but eventually this bad apple spoils the bunch. I have now read two intelligent and articulate gentleman try there best to explain feminism to this broad without any success. Jesus, Joseph, and Mary…Liberia and Yemen. Women are inferior in every measurable category, but without women, (I should clarify, nearly extinct feminine women) man’s achievements would be meaningless. Women should not be taught to compete with men, they are here to compliment us.
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Fair is fair. Most Americans, men & women, dress sloppy. Men try to look like teenage boys, dress for comfort, and are very overweight. I do agree women are just as ridiculous. Live in the Pacific Northwest and have actually received comments from women about wearing heels. Think secure females do try to dress feminine but not slutty. Men you’re not off the hook when you’re in the public please don’t wear pajamas, sweatpants, baggy pants or shorts in the middle of winter.
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Back to women’s sports. My favorite is Beach Volleyball!
I love to see female hardbodies weairing skimpy sports bikinis and diving for balls! ( I wonder who the evil genius was who insisted the girls wear those bikinis; guess you can’t play the game in modest swim suits huh?)
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204555904577168762962727568.html#project%3DPAJAMAS011912%26articleTabs%3Darticle
Why must fashion be so sore on the eyes. Rebelling against your parents has limits which seem to be sought,fought for and expanded by every generation. You’d expect it to end at a certain point but teens always succesfully find refuge in audacity. The thing that surprises me most is that the schools and parents tolerate it. I wonder why the schools aren’t more mindful of their reputation and why parents aren’t acting to stop such decadent behaviour. God forbid we become like Russia with teens addicted to krokodil to save a couple of bucks over purchasing meth. Atleast our wealth will make it more likely that our youth sticks to meth as is becoming of the first world. I also haven’t heard of cases such as this one happening in the west, though that probably has more to do with sweet ignorance than reality: http://englishrussia.com/2011/08/30/how-children-spend-this-summer/
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http://www.newser.com/story/138409/irish-welfare-office-bans-pajamas.html
Irish welfare officials aren’t asleep at the switch—and they’ve got a wake-up call for their clients. Dubliners have been a bit too chill when they turn up to collect their welfare checks, so the agency is banning pajamas in the office. “Pajamas are not regarded as appropriate attire when attending Community Welfare Service at these offices,” says a new standards-setting sign posted at the agency, reports the BBC. The increasing use of pajamas as daywear is alarming officials throughout Ireland, who have begun to ban PJs at Irish schools and shops. Even the states are going to the mattresses over the issue—a Louisiana legislator is proposing making wearing jammies in a public a crime. But Slate doesn’t get the hate.
“A whole lot of silly and just-plain-mean people aren’t happy about this nascent pajama craze,” writes an appalled Farhad Manjoo, who hails the trend as a great equalizer in the same league as child labor laws, public education and pants becoming acceptable for women. “Insofar as they help us escape the constantly shifting mores of modern fashion, pajamas function as a great leveler—a way to bridge the gap between rich and poor, old and young, thin and fat,” he writes. “Perhaps nobody looks awesome in pajamas, but nobody looks terrible, either: You just look like you’re looking out for yourself.”
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All it says to me is that that person hasn’t showered yet today.
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