Which one is the alpha male? A lot of times — an uncomfortable amount of time for most equalists who give it a moment’s thought — you can judge a man’s character simply by looking at him; his expression, his posture, his general vibe. Don’t be thrown by the proximity of slutty ladies. Who looks more like an alpha male to you? And then ask yourself, why does he look alpha?
The photo comes from this story. You’l discover that the guy who looks alpha inevitably attracts his quarry, leaving the beta a broken man, just like millions of betas before him, and family reunions will never be the same. Also, one of the all-time great negs is buried in the article.
I sat with Darren on the sofa with a glass of wine, and suddenly he turned to me and said: “I don’t think I’ve ever seen you looking this attractive.”
That was a Federer backhand right there. Naturally, she lobbed her pussy in return.
I’ve wondered how fathers of sons with pretty girlfriends handle their presence in the household, particularly when the fat wife waddles by to clarify the stark difference in mate value. I know I’d be going for it if the chick was dropping indicators of interest like left-wing Canadian academics drop scientifically flawed, axe-grinding studies.
Are these Russians? American alphas probably wouldn’t wear a Mickey Mouse shirt, and they’d probably also have hair.
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They’re English, and do you have to have hair to be alpha? Wouldn’t have thought so.
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English are a certain kind of ugly…
This picture paints a different story
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serious case of hover hand
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Not the dude with the Mickey shirt… it’d have to be flaming skull or something like that.
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I don’t see any alphas wearing Mickey Mouse shirts in this picture, either.
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Just like the upper arm on a girl tells you a great deal about the future of her body, the *forearms* of a man tell you most of what you need to know.
Lost in all the talk about digit ratios is an even more serious predictor of high-test and general fitness: crushing grip.
Google crushing grip testosterone.
The father’s forearms are no surprise: he can crush your hand. And the pussy sees this immediately.
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The crazy thing is that she is one of the rare good looking girls in GB. Good luck trying to find another hot girl in GB who he has a chance with.
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Well there is a lot of pretty ok looking women in England. Most though are fat, but I’ve heard that things are pretty much the same In the US, or worse. I do think, though, that the girl in the pic looks a little bit skanky.
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British women used to be hot when I was a lad. As a young boy, all the women I thought were really beautiful were English.
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The kid genuinely looks more alpha. not smiling when he’s with his chick, drink held down low
but hey, sluts will slut
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Initially, he comes off as “gives-no-fuck”, but his demeanor could be “don’t take a picture of me with this cheating slut.”
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Yeah but knowing the backstory I’d say he’s not smiling out of a kind of shyness (or fear of negative judgement) than being truly alpha. Being standoffish is alpha until it’s not, and here it’s not.
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Look at the other pictures in the article, TBH neither of them looks that alpha, but the older man pulls it off better.
BTW how much cash do you rteckon this little slut got for humiliating her ex like this? The Daily Mail is not as generous as tyhe old News of the Screws, could she have done it just to get her face in the papers?
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He looks tense and earnest
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He’s too young for her. Daddy in his early 40s is much better matched up with a 27yo than some early 20s non plutocrat will ever be.
Also, smiling at social events is not beta. Whoever said so, is either clueless or talking past you. A sheepish, nervous, submissive, “I’m with those guys/girls” smile is beta. But not the smirk Daddy is flashing in this picture. The point is to look comfortably in charge, whether you are or not.
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I thought the son was supposed to fall over the banister to his death…(Damage).
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the kid looks more alpha in my opinion. not smiling, drink held down low, embracing the girl but not in a beta fashion.
[heartiste: the kid looks softer than the dad, for lack of a better descriptor.]
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This site once proclaimed that keeping a drink by your waist and not smiling are signs of alphaness. But apparently that doesn’t matter for sake of this post. The kid doesn’t look softer, just younger. There is a difference.
[heartiste: no, he looks softer. holding a drink down low is one body language adjustment available to a man to increase his alphaness. it is not the whole kit and kaboodle.]
Banging your son’s girlfriend doesn’t make you alpha. It just makes you a scumbag.
[some of the commenters here are extremely dense. how many times does it need to be said? alpha does not necessarily mean admirable. it is simply a descriptor of a man’s attractiveness to women. there are alpha scumbags and there are alpha heros.]
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It really comes down to the way the son is holding the drink, in my opinion. Lower and not as firm of a grip.
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Heartiste is right. Look at the eyes, you can see into each of their souls. The father looks strong, the son looks weak.
This is a great spot the alpha post as it shows that looks can be deceiving. The body-language of the son is sound; his drink is low, chest and head is up, arm around girl’s hip and feet are wide. However, while you can put on a pose of dominant posture your eyes and face quickly reveal to the world what strength (or lack of) lies within.
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in the other pictures in the link, you can clearly see who is more alpha.
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and…junior is leaning in, dad is standing shoulders back. dad’s body is not facing the camera, junior’s is.
shit eating grin, check.
shitty tattoo, check.
pink t shirt?
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The kid does look more alpha in that photo, despite the shirt.
The dad looks like a crawler.
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I’m inclined to agree; they’re very close on the alpha scale, his roughness is primarily a factor of age. I worry that cognitive bias is what’s driving me to see the father as a hair more alpha.
Sluts will be sluts, is my judgement here. If she were dating the dad, I expect she would have seduced the son.
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I’m 26 and I’d find it just as despicable. Then again, i just fucking hate cheaters in general.
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Smiling is not beta. Smiling in a sheepish, nervous, submissive “I’m so happy to be with those guys/girls” way is, but grinning the way daddy is doing here is not.
[heartiste: smiling too much, smiling at one’s own jokes, or smiling like a goofball are beta. but a wry smile or a smile of pleasure every now and then isn’t necessarily the stigmata of betaness.
there was an okcupid study done that showed women were more attracted to men who weren’t smiling in their profile pics, and were looking away from the camera into the distance, as if preoccupied by something more important that whoever was taking their picture. so their is some evidence from the sociological field that men would do better to smile less than more.]
Here’s a good way to pick alphas from betas, aside from the women they’re with: Many alphas are attention hogs, and will, in a social setting, tell stories and jokes, and make “outrageous” quips at every opportunity. Unless the guy happens to be John Cleese, those laughing and smiling will be either women under his spell, or betas supplicating (or possibly uber alphas being polite, but that’s rare, as politeness isn’t exactly en vogue these days.)
Now, kid proposing to a woman several years his senior is massively beta. I guess some would say proposing, period, is beta; but at least daddy is of an age where getting hitched to a trim 27yo is not so obviously train wrecking the rest of his life.
I do suspect there is more to the dynamic described in this story that simply universal alpha beating universal beta in a bang race. I have no data on the matter, but women (and men) do seem to be particularly vulnerable to cheat during the final stages before “committing for the rest of their lives.” Particularly the kind of attention whore who spends her life working amongst sales sharks, and tells/sells stories like this to some tabloid.
So, I wouldn’t be all that surprised if the British tabloids gets to print another story, this time about miss attention whore about to be married to daddy, had kiddo over and realized is was really him she wanted all along.
You’d hope the now wiser twenty something fella would have learned, but in our age of almost universal trashiness, I wouldn’t bet on it.
Regardless, thank goodness immigration of fertile Muslims to Britain. And may they grow plentiful, intolerant and violent.
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“‘He put his hand on my knee and said: “I think you’re the most beautiful girl in the world and I really, really mean that.” Moments later our lips had locked and we were kissing.
‘After a few dates I realised he was special. He treated me with respect, was always the perfect gentleman and our sex life was fantastic.
‘After two months of dating he’d all but moved in and four months later he proposed with the words: “I want you to say yes because I’ve never loved a girl as much as I love you, and I want to make you happy for the rest of your life.””
Truly, no good deed goes unpunished!
[heartiste: lol! another beta bites the dust.]
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The dad isn’t as pretty, and when does a man plan a wedding?
Obviously the Dad (a young Dad, to have a son in his 20’s at 43) has the morals of a mongrel, but the son, for all his Neanderthal swagger, has some beta mushiness as well.
The Disney clothes and Nazi brush cuts I put down to their soccer hooligan, chimneysweep social class.
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Good men… they exist for women to treat like crap and rip-off in divorce court.
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Better they than we!
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dad has an alpha shit eating grin cuz he’s banging his son’s girl.
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Dad looks completely uninhibitedly happy. Sonny boy looks uptight. The other bad tell is how she stands in front of him. Women in love diminish themselves, and want boy babies to look like their daddy.
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B-B-BUT THE YOUNG GUY IS HOLDING HIS DRINK SO ALPHA AND COOL. WHAT’S THAT SHIT IN DAD’S HAND? RASPBERRY WINE SPRITZER?
I guess banging your son’s fiance helps you not give a fuck.
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Reading posts like this has been a revelation for me, I’ve gone back through old photos and the body language, especially when I was with girlfriends, just reeks beta. It’s embarrassing to look at now.
Even so, at first glance I would have said that the son was more alpha than the dad. Long way to go with the body-language spotting!
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I read the article and yes the man on the left is an Alpha in some respects, but he is also a scumbag. Hitting on – then sleeping with your son’s fiance is not an attribute of an Alpha.
[heartiste: correction: it’s not an attribute of the *admirable man*. Whether an attribute is admirable tells us nothing about a man’s alphaness.]
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The son wanted nothing to do withn his dad, other than getting child support for 8 years. A fresh vagina is a good start on paying the dad back.
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If the young guy can’t hold on to his bitch it’s absolutely open season.
And look at that slut: you gotta fuck her!
She must have some nice tan lines on that ass.
Yea.–
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It’s the duty of fathers to discipline their sons when their behavior is untoward. If your son is being a liberal wimp, and she’s not married, she’s fair game, as far as I’m concerned.
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Atrribute of a major douchebag…
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[heartiste: correction: it’s not an attribute of the *admirable man*. Whether an attribute is admirable tells us nothing about a man’s alphaness.]
You don’t have to be *admirable* to not want to crush your own child’s ego and psychological well being, you just have to be NORMAL.
That man is a worthless anti-human. And that female is a repulsive, though sadly typical, modern vagina. Reacting reflexively to the correct “alpha” stimuli like a Venus Fly Trap being tickled with a piece of grass.
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CH: Indeed.
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Thinking that admirable behavior is “alpha” is one of the defining characteristics of betas and white knights.
Alpha = the quantity and quality of pussy. If being “admirable” got you lots of high quality lays the the entire Game culture would never have come into existence.
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I’m not sure that only betas want to conflate admirable with alpha. It’s a habit of mind to think unclearly and emotionally in this fashion, and to want to lump together good things. If alpha is good, and if admirable is good, then alpha and admirable must belong to the same set.
Not all people learn to think in more nuanced ways, and of those that do not all usually bother.
My favorite method to clarify thinking is to think in terms of sets. Remember in kindergarten when the teacher drew overlapping circles on the board, and drew in labels and objects into the circles and where the circles intercepted? Red, blue, round, triangular. We learned to think of domains of attributes, and see how in some cases they overlap. You can have red shapes, you can have red triangles, blue shapes, blue triangles, and you can have blue balls.
I’ve noticed that the unclear thinkers tend to not think mathematically like this. They don’t notice what are the labels for the domains, and don’t notice where the domains intersect and where they do not.
One such arrangement of domains has these labels:
One big circle labelled attractive traits
Inside this circle many smaller circles labelled as every other trait that is attractive to women, ,such as height, social power, financial power, leadership, style, handsome face, good physique, athletic ability, with, charm, and confidence. All the smaller domains can intersect with any of the other domains.
Some people are not actually capable of visualizing such domains attraction, and in their mind can only legitimize one or a few of them as being real, or else they conflate many domains to being aspects of other domains, for instance saying that height is actually a circle inside the circle of confidence, because height makes you confident and if you are confident you don’t need height.
Some people never learned their kindergarten math lessons, and don’t care to. Emotional thinking has sufficed up through to their adult years.
So called adult years.
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[quote]If alpha is good, and if admirable is good, then alpha and admirable must belong to the same set.[/quote]
This puts me in mind of some of Plato’s dialogues
[heartiste: alpha is good for the individual man. admirable is good for the make benefit of glorious society.]
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Yes, that’s right. Good is not an overarching category that relates everything within it. Alpha does not mean admirable because it is not good in the same way as admirable is good. Alpha is a strategy to power for individuals. Power is good in the same way that a handgun is good.
Good is therefore an emotional and misleading category, used in facile quick thinking to make facile quick emotional judgments.
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Alpha is not right, alpha is wrong.
My personal alpha motto:
“Rules are made for everybody else, not for me.”
Heartiste is making men worst.
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No point blaming heartiste. He’s a douchebag, but I appreciate his honesty. If you want to blame someone, blame the women who give in to this shit.
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>Hitting on – then sleeping with your son’s fiance
>is not an attribute of an Alpha.
>
>[heartiste: correction: it’s not an attribute of the
>*admirable man*. Whether an attribute is admirable
>tells us nothing about a man’s alphaness.]
Correction: this has nothing to do with admirability, and the original poster is right, but perhaps did not elaborate sufficiently. I shall be honored to do so in his stead as I 100% believe the dad is, indeed, NOT alpha.
On a side note – the articles, and comments, in the Chateau, have began lately to be way out there. Scientific method and basic well known attraction concepts – out, overanalizing smiles and angles of drink cup holding – in. THIS IS A DARN SHAME.
One could argue that they “just fell in love” but that does not explain much, does it. Lets try to understand what REALLY happened here.
A true alpha has OPTIONS. A true alpha has the TOOLS TO GO OUT AND BED SEVERAL, HIGH CLASS, INTERESTING AND BEAUTIFUL WOMEN. This is basic knowledge about the alpha. Would Gene Simmons, having THOUSANDS of options, even bother with his son’s girlfriend – not to mention obsess about her – and MOVE IN WITH HER !?
An alpha would have so much options he would not bother with his child’s fiance, much less so obsess about her and move in with her at the expense of his family’s well being when there is so much pussy out there.
Instead of believing the son is beta and the dad is alpha because he wasn’t holding the drink right or some such nonsense, the facts can easily point to the following:
The girl is a high-calibre adventuress with materialista thrown in, rather than a good-girl. The son didn’t calibrate and developed wrong expectations.
The father, having NO options [not very alpha, is that?], made a move on his son’s girl because he got horny. The girl, being a slutty adrenaline junky, had her blood boiling at the thought of the incoming affair.
The optionless dad and the low-self-esteem slutty adrenaline junkie started to obsess over each other. The dad got oneitis for his son’s fiance.
I firmly believe this analysis can mesh with the facts at hand.
Now someone tell me what is alpha about:….
….The girl is a low self esteem adrenaline junkie slut and the dad is a horny, optionless, oneitis ridden beta who clang to That One Special Flower at the expense of his family’s well being. And the son, whether beta, regualr, or alpha who miscalibrated, was just a supporting actor in a movie which wasn’t about him, the wrong story at the wrong time, if you will.
This story and the people in it disguast me, and there is nothing alpha to learn from it.
And you people, who wish to become better seducers, get a bloody grip. And while you’re at it: Most of the women I bed, I bed them smiling, Explain that, hot shots.
[or allow me: smiling like an idiot clown is wrong. Smiling like you are having a good time, however, is a-ok. You can bed plenty of women having a good time and smiling about it. Ask me how I know…]
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“I know we hurt my son very badly doing this but, eh fuck him, he’ll get over it. I’m happy and that’s all that matters.”
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See, morals are for beta losers…
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Hahaha … I’m sorry I just have to comment again.
“‘I turned to him and suddenly we kissed, but then I thought about Lewis and stopped him, saying: “This isn’t right, it isn’t fair on Lewis.” His face dropped and he said: “You’re right.”
‘I decided the best thing to do was go to the spare room, get undressed and into bed. [Clearly after being heavily aroused and remaining all alone in a house with a man you don’t want to have sex with you should get undressed] As I lay under the covers the initial adrenalin rush had been replaced by fear.
‘What was I playing at? I loved Lewis, he was the perfect man for me.
‘But underneath I knew I was attracted to Darren. I wanted him and not Lewis, and the thought made my blood run cold.
‘How could I ever admit that to Lewis? What sort of person would that make me? I was scared, terrified of what th… [she indulges in some more delicious self-centred drama]
….
‘My emotions were all over the place, I pulled him towards me and we started kissing and minutes later we were having sex.”
My, how the hamester runs!
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Now I know how that old joke about cars running on hamster-powered treadmills arose.
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The beta’s hamster is running too:
“I feel quite embarrassed about it. I don’t know if I’ll ever be friends with my dad again, well definitely not while he’s with her.”
The fact that he’s even considering being friends with his dad again is repulsive. The only contact he should have with his dad is when his urine soaks into the latter’s suit once he’s 6 feet under.
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Question:
So, when she shot dad that LMR phrase (“This just isn’t right”), and dad replied with “You’re right,” would that be an example of Agree-and-Amplify?
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Yes i like that line as well : i decided the best thing was to get undressed and climb in a bed.
Ah the wisdom of young girls is amazing.
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“What kind of person would that make me?”
A cunt. No different than all the cunts before you. Or the ones that’ll come after you.
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The kid looks more alpha to me too. His behaviour is what killed him. Well, that and dating whores.
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Even a beta can have a good picture body language day…. or a horrible one: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/01/20/article-2089466-11619499000005DC-45_634x555.jpg
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Yeah. Kid definitely looks more alpha there. he looks like a herb here though:http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/01/20/article-2089466-11619499000005DC-45_634x555.jpg
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Agreed. The kid is also 21 and her 27. His relative immaturity probably grew increasingly palpable as the relationship went on.
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^^^ All women are whores. You must come to grips with this.
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Tis true.
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There isn’t a woman alive that I would trust alone in a room with a man she found attractive.
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I agree. Women these days have no shame.
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The thinking behind this post is a little flawed. You’re assuming that
a) the interloper is always more alpha
b) this pic accurately reflects each man
Probably true most of the time, but not always. Even if they were true here, two men can be equally alpha but have unequal appeal to a given woman. Plus the son looks alpha here and a little dopey in the other picture.
my guess: the ho comes from a broken family and has a daddy complex. And then daddy comes in…
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That’s what she did wrong. Guys check out the mom to see what the gf will end up looking like, I guess that rule doesn’t apply in reverse, they just check out the dad, if he’s still in shape? nah…
To the dad’s credit (never mind, I thought he was 53, not 43…at 53 he looks good for the age, at 43…well, building is a tough life and gives you character, I guess(but to the slut, he looks 10 years *younger* than 43…33…which means that she thought that he’s only, hey, 6 years older than me”)), he’s not let himself go and if the hair is a problem, just whack it.
lessons learned? I’m reminded of the post about not letting bitches prance around sexily in front of you without calling them on it. After dad says she looks attractive (which I think was a non-creepy validation of her interest in him,) she goes “I was shocked, told him to stop it and pulled my short skirt down as it had accidentally ridden up. But he put his hand on my thigh.’I turned to him and suddenly we kissed…”
yeah, suddenly. woosh, just like that.
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I’m happy for her that she followed her heart and slept with her boyfriend’s father. Her young ex will find another girlfriend. So there is nothing wrong with anyone in this story.
“I’ve wondered how fathers of sons with pretty girlfriends handle their presence in the household, particularly when the fat wife waddles by to clarify the stark difference in mate value. I know I’d be going for it if the chick was dropping indicators of interest …”
The father in this article was single, probably divorced. If he had a wife I’d find his action immoral and disgusting… Imagine how would it feel for a wife to be replaced by a hot chick … Why some men think this behavior is acceptable???
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I see Maya is starting the week off on the right foot!
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Wow. It’s like Maya has some kind of psychic ability to channel other chicks’ rationalization hamsters.
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Based on your setup, I knew the dad had to be the Alpha between the two since initially it appears to be the guy with the girl. A few subtle indicators as I see them:
1. The guy on the right is wearing a Mickey Mouse Long Sleeve t-shirt and the ugliest shorts I’ve seen on a guy. The guy on the left actually looks decently dressed in comparison (and he’s not dressed well!)
2. The girl is not smiling and is instead taking a sip of her drink. What girl do you know that understands a picture is being taken and then covers her face almost entirely with a drink? Also, what girl in love with an alpha isn’t practically draped over him at any opportunity for a photo?
3. The guy on the left has a goofy smile, but he looks more masculine, he has way burlier arms and his posture is one of having a good time. The picture being taken does not cause him to turn his body towards the camera.
Whoever said that the girl was good looking is wrong. Look at a picture with her face actually exposed (from the article).
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She says:
“When we knocked on his door Darren answered and I was confronted by a man who looked ten years younger than his 43 years and was very handsome.”
The last word that came into my mind when I saw the guy was “handsome”.
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Women’s shifting perception of male looks and stuff…
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Exactly!
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Is that a?…nooooo!. yes!…It is 😮
Awwww nooo! Please tell me that is NOT the Mickey mouse shirt I’m seeing on dude! *YEESH!* 😳
Bless his heart. Still not deserving of a slutty g/f cheating on him with his father, but if he stays with her after this he’s an IDIOT who deserves her – water seeks thier own level. But UGH @ the chick – some people have no fkn conscious whatsoever.
Guys liek that irk me b/c all they do is create a BIGGER problem in the SMP by rewarding women like this with love, devotion and marriage.
These guys need to STOP rewarding women like this with wedding rings and marriage and love – if they do this KNOWING what awaits and how the woman is a slut without conscious then they get what they deserve
No wonder so many women have no problems with their bad behavior – they get rewarded from guys for it!
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There’s a better picture at the story where the kids real demeanor shows through. I love how they’re always “So ashamed of myself” but they continue to do the activity they’re so ashamed of.
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Honestly, they both look alpha. But even Charlie Sheen looks up to his dad, and she no doubt noticed who had the higher status in the fam.
But stealing your son’s fiance is a sign of pussy deprivation, extreme lack of loyalty, not a sign of abundance mentality. Far worse than a violation of the bro code, I would shun the f out of that dude.
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I don’t think its either/or. Agree that the girl’s behavior is irrelevant. Both men look pretty non-needy and comfortable with themselves. Dad looks a bit more easy-going (for obvious reasons), while son looks a little more intense. I think they both look pretty alpha.
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the kid looks softer than the dad, for lack of a better descriptor.
The kid was softer but he didn’t look it in that picture. The picture *doesn’t* convey what you think it does. The kid had beta behavioral traits as we learn from the piece; he fell in love way to soon and he placed her on a pedestal. In short, he is still mired in the 1950’s marriage paradigm – what Athol Kay calls marriage 1.0. Having that view is lethal today and the kid payed for it.
The father is alpha but he is a worthless scumbag. Being moral is more important than being alpha. And disgracing your son like that; that’s just fucking evil. If I were the son, I would beat my father to within an inch of his life and then I would disfigure him somehow. But I would *never* let that rest. I would also pummel the girl.
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It’s not about what’s moral or not. It’s about dark triad traits being evolutionary advantageous. Complaining about it makes you miss the big picture.
The dad is an authentic dark triad. The son is not. End of story.
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Wrong, if dark triad traits were evolutionarily advantageous, then they would have a higher incidence in the human population. It’s more accurate to say that the current cultural climate allows for these traits to prosper unchecked, which has not been the case throughout recorded history.
Sooner or later the edifice will come crashing down and we will be back to the more localized societies that the state of nature prefers, where once again you will need to act morally to avoid getting killed by your tribesmen.
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You misunderstand the nature of the sexual marketplace. Learn about marketing, and learn about niche strategies.
You CAN’T have one dominant sexual strategy without also therefore introducing successful niche strategies.
The dark triad is a niche strategy that is more successful than the dominant beta strategy. It would not be more successful unless it was a niche, and as a niche it has it’s own reproductive costs, and rewards.
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All confused now, two mentally challenging posts in a row. Snowcone pink shirt guy’s the alpha? Or the genius bird? Or something…?
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Mickey Mouse boy has his eyebrows arched in a puppy dog submissive expression. He seems to be ever so slightly pursing his lips, which would be a sign of stress. His beer is covering (protecting) his crotch. His holding of the woman is poised in a gentlemanly, risk free posture. He isn’t grabbing any ass or pulling her towards him – it’s so passive it’s nearly hover-hand.
And the shirt. Never mind the rest. It’s the shirt.
Silverback is mildly thrusting his pelvis forward – a sign of openness. His facial expression is open and interested and engaged. And through the wisdom of his years he knows not to wear gray track shorts.
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The father doing this is probably good for his son. Maybe he will start acting more like a man.
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That’s right. Good to hear from a mature woman on this subject.
If the son had any sense, and any balls, he’d go down the pub with his rakehell of a father and say: Old Man, I gotta hand it to you — you took her right out from under me.
Now, all I wanna know is: how’d you do it?
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Its not alpha to put banging some whore ahead of your relationship with your son. He can find chicks anywhere if he is alpha why not be a decent human being and not an animal.
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Freedom failed.
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Notice how flagrantly she has to posture up to his penis. “SEE SEE? GET IT? EVERYONE SEE? THIS GOES WITH THAT. CONVINCED? NO? CLOSER? CAN EVERYONE SEE NOW? EVERYONE GET IT? OVER HERE, NOT OVER THERE. MY VAGINA DOESN’T EVEN KNOW THERE’S ANOTHER PENIS AROUND.”
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Re: The Canadian study
Alright, so let’s accept the premise for argument’s sake, that low-IQ types are less able to overcome prejudice. Where ya going with this, Lefty? Eugenics? And what’s with your support for mass democracy, with its dysgenic pressure on demographic intelligence and behavior?
I guess you want things dumber and more prejudiced. Suit yourself.
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One has to wonder if the kid had beat the shit out of the dad (i mean hospital level beating) in front the girl, would she have changed her mind? Not that the kid should ever want a cheating slut back. . .
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No chance of that happening. The kid was considering being friends with his dad again.
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Dam, fucking your son’s girl. Alpha knows no bounds.
And people wonder what creates serial killers…
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It’s definitely the older guy on the left. I saw this instantly this is not a close call. I couldn’t be certain from this pic that the guy on the left is alpha, but I was instantly certain the kid on the right is beta. The only think alpha looking about the younger guy is that his gf if at least fairly hot, and her body language with him.
I had that impression immediately. He looks way confidant, and tough. The younger guy with the girl on the right has a sort of chronically worried look on his face. He looks like a suck up. Not a confidant look at all.
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Alpha getting the girl? No, it’s chavs acting like chavs. Enough with your mental masturbation.
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Would beating the shit out of his dad with a baseball bat (or maybe a cricket stick in jolly ol’ Britain) make him more alpha? How about beating his cheating skank of an ex so badly she’ll never be beautiful again? Just a thought.
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“How about beating his cheating skank of an ex so badly she’ll never be beautiful again?”
Taliban Tahir says: “‘how ’bout a bucket of acid to the face?”
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I say make peace and share her. She’d dig the notoriety and it would guarantee another article in the Mail. Meanwhile, bang other chicks and punk her out. Why mark up a perfectly good women unless you like boys better, whcih the Taliban do.
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Tyrone,
Spot on, man. Turning her out is a great idea.
I can tell just looking at this bitch that she’s got a great cunt and that’s a rare item.
A fine bucking filly in the sack. Yeah, they shd definitely turn her out.
Great f’ing post.
The moralizing prigs here don’t have any conception of how to live and enjoy.
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“Taliban Tahir” is my way of mocking the honor crime bloodlust of the OP.. apparently not as obvious a slight as id intended
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The hilarious thing is how dumb this woman is…and how such stupidity is very close to beta male stupidity.
A beta man will shack up with a woman who won the gang-bang olympics/dates black guys/ does one night stands and tell himself “she was just exploring her sexuality. Now she’s faithful to me. I won’t judge her.” Then he will be shocked (and heartbroken) when she leaves him because she’s been blowing Jamal down the hall—the baby daddy who fakes workman’s comp. Then spend ten years in therapy “talking” about his problem. Maybe he was doubly dumb and marry the whore, thus ensuring a raping in court.
Similarly, this slut will be shocked and heartbroken when she walks in on this guy banging her best friend or when he tosses her ass out on the street one day for being too old. Their love was so special!
Non-beta men—i.e. non lefty men—can look at both relationships and know they will fail. They know in both cases the women are just street trash whores. They know that the Dad/boyfriend in this story is so untrustworthy—he cuckolded his son! with a woman going to marry him!—that doing business or associating with him is bad news; if he’d do such a thing to his son, what would he do to a stranger in a business deal or a buddy in a friendship?
No one would have blamed this kid if he’d straight up murdered both of them (well, no one with a sack). Sounds to me like he knew his Dad was a p.o.s. and tried to avoid him, but this dumb broad tried to “fix” things. He’s doing the next best thing—avoiding.
Look for this Dad to be arrested for a serious crime And get the groupies such guys get.
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The young guy has a look almost resembling worry on his face. Old guy is happy and doesn’t give a fuck. Body says young guy is alpha, but his face gives him away.
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The kid is wearing a chav shirt, is only 21 and probably has no financial prospects. The slut is 27, and probably has a better job than him. If he were a 28-30 go nowhere chav he probably wouldn’t have gotten swooped by his own father, but this slag is already trading down in too many ways for her hypergamy to allow. The kid isn’t necessarily more beta by instinct, body language and such (he obviously landed the intensely hypergamic slut in the first place) but he’s young and dumb. He just needs some Fuckup Avoidance Game, and to go after younger prey. The average dress size in the UK is 16 though, so good luck to him not finding beached whales.
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Nicely put, the douche is wearing a mickey mouse jumper (every fucker is wearing one thinking that they are cool) and yes everything in that picture tells you that they are scally – probably were involved in the UK riots over the summer and on gov. benefits – set of twats. That’s a different breed of people I try to avoid interacting with (equivalent to rednecks across the pond).
Young fella – beta amongst girls (probably got her through his social circle) – tries to act alpha amongst his mates.
The slag – well just another slag who probably studied to become a beautician.
Dad – scum for doing that to his son.
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The kid’s just a bit inexperienced and got out-alpha’ed this time… in twenty years he’ll be banging his son’s fiance.
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People have to see the other pics to really understand who is the alpha male and why. In the first pic, when the dad is behind the girl by himself, the girl has an approval seeking posture and his son’s facial expression just doesn’t look right.
Generally the dad, looks happier in all pictures and the son has the “you don’t deserve me face” and i think that is an important distinction.
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Anybody catch the irony in her village of residence? “4000 holes in Blackburn,Lancashire,And tho the holes were rather small,they had to count them all…” make it 4000 and one!
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I’ve know a few dudes with dads like this.
The charismatic life of the party, supreme asshole, big shit eating grin, and a dash of charm. Usually alcoholics as well, but the fun kind. The kind that would let us come over in high school and have pool parties and get hammered and didn’t give a shit.
Always felt sorry for the friends, all the girls wanted their dads.
I never knew one to go so far as this guy, but then again, it wouldn’t surprise me if it did happen a few times under the radar…
All it took for me was a few years working at a summer camp to understand just how badly girls my age want to bang older men with game. More than a few of my (very good looking) coworkers had numerous flings with various dads, married and unmarried. One only bangs dads now.
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A sizable minority of young women prefer older men. Some prefer age 30 up to 38, some prefer not to date anyone under 40. And of the twenty year old girls who prefer to date a man aged thirty five, the stretch to dating a 45 year old man is easier than the stretch to dating a 25 year old man.
Many young guys prefer to deny this reality. Women especially love to deny it. It is what it is – a non-negligable and stable minority of girls are attracted to the dramatically older man much more so than a similar aged man.
Just as in all high schools in all cultures you have distributions of sluts and prudes, in all high schools in all cultures you have distributions of girls who prefer older men.
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Xsplat is speaking purest truth here.
There is nothing better in life than Daddy-fucking the buttery quim of an 18-20 year old piece of ass; there is truly nothing better.
The girls that want to be fucked by Daddy are often the hottest and fuck and come like hyenas.
Good stuff. Too many people are scared of this mode.–
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Fucking A.
I love this freshflyandyoung post. A post derived from *knowledge.*
That summer camp must’ve been a hoot. No doubt a man could learn a shitload in those little temporary communes.
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Before I read the post, the guy on the left struck me as the more Alpha but I’m still not sure why.
I guess it’s because the guy on the right is being hugged by a cute girl and he’s tense and leaning away. The guy of the left is relaxed and not fully involved in the picture, he’s just having fun.
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If you take a look at the other photos in the article you can see that the father is clearly better looking than his pasty ginger son. He also looks stronger and more masculine.
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Shit eating grin. Eating a sweet. Nothing to prove and enjoying himself.
Kid’s soft and focused on possessing the girl or maybe orienting himself in relation to her.
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The alpha father should have taught his son to be alpha but unfortunately the divorce probably made that impossible.
I am surprised when she told the father they had to tell his son he didn’t just ignore it, shrug his shoulders and remind her to bring the movies next time.
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On first glance, the kid looks more alpha because the girl is on his arm, but the dad has an obvious joie-de-vivre that the kid lacks. He doesn’t need a woman, and is manly enough to rock a pink shirt, which in this case shows he’s red-blooded.
One way to tell is to mentally move the woman to the other guy and see which arrangement works better. In this case, the dad has it.
Oh wait… the woman moved herself over to the other guy.
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Read the article and look at the second pic of the kid (goofy grin, arm strung apelike around gf, gf’s body is turned away from him with dishonest smile and dull eyes) His true beta shines proudly. Besides, he’s 21, solid 6 years younger than her, totally inexperienced judging from his quotes, and it shows. Look at that, then look at the main pic again; the kid is just posing. Dad is genuine and DGAF. Girl will send herself to a mental ward before 35 anyway.
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Pffft. Man. You couldn’t be more funny if you knew how actual science worked.
What is this blog about? American boys living in their mother’s basement raging together because they can’t get laid?
What is this shit about “alphas” and “betas.” Boy, aren’t you cute. And stupid. You all also get together to howl at the moon and get their dinners hunting… deers or something? Leave the computer and met some real people.
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8=======D ~ ~ ~ (o) (o)
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Or. Learn some ACTUAL science.
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Alpha = relaxed
Look at the kid’s facial expression, he seems a little tense/ worried whereas dad…
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The dad has a self-satisfied smile, the kid an uneasy gesture, and also doesnt hold the girl with enough zeal or conviction.
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they see me rollin, they hatin. in the pics on the site, to me its apparent enough that he gives her to much attention and doesn’t do enough pull shit. he gives quantity rather then quality, and the brats love quality.
and the guy’s drink is held down to the balls. it does appear he is ‘alpha’ but he doesn’t do any push-pull.
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The kid looks alpha in the picture, but ugh…read the content of the article for nauseating betaness. I’m amazed that his weak game flow managed to get the few months of sex from her before the Dad swooped in for the steal.
‘You’re the most beautiful girl in the world!’
She’s a 6, maybe a 7 in that glamor shot, but then again given the things the British press say about the Middleton sisters, maybe this massive overrating has trickled down to the masses.
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” [heartiste: correction: it’s not an attribute of the *admirable man*. Whether an attribute is admirable tells us nothing about a man’s alphaness.]”
Actually in the field admirability is often inversely related to alphaness. Case in point: this photo. The dad looks like a scumbag while the son looks decent. Surprise, surprise, pigs love shit.
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Wow, this was a shocker. The kid just looks a lot more alpha to me. The Mickey Mouse shirt strikes me more of a “constrast is king” kind of thing. The dad looks more more like a SWPL herb in his pants that he bought from REI.
I would have lost this bet!
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I once knew a legal secretary in San Francisco who was a dead ringer for Emma, name of Lara. But Emma looks to good to be English. Probably bad teeth just like Darren. The son looks like an MMA guy.
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The kid looks alpha in body language, but look at his eyes and facial expression. He has that “Derp” look on his face, very beta.
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My first thought was that the dad was alpha. He looks more calm, relaxed. And yes, the shit-eating grin. Then I looked at the son; well built body, drink held low, holding the girl in an “alpha” way. His body language was good. But there was a certain tension in his face, like he was struggling. Whereas the dad was just totally at ease, and his shoulders were back. Son’s shoulders were in the right position, but he looked tense.
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After just seeing the title of the post and the photo, I immediately identified the dad as the alpha. The split-second reaction was that in a competitive social setting, I’d feel relaxed around the son but on guard around the dad for AMOG/douche moves.
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At first instant, I thought the father on the left was Alpha, not the son on the right because something in my “gut” told me it. The father looked more muscular with less of a baby face. However, the son looked Alpha enough but the father more so. Many young men have more babyish softer faces, and some haven’t been able to hit the gym yet or worse didn’t yet.
Then I thought the son was more Alpha when i consciuosly thought about it. He had the cute girl in his arm. However, something was nagging me that this may be wrong and my initial reaction was right. I read the story, and found out the father was more Alpha. I should have payed more attention to my “gut” or subconscious you might say, but I have a tendency to wait, observe, then make my decision. One’s “gut” including my own is not always right, but more often than not it is right and will be proven so later down the line with the evidence.
The father is a piece of human shit though in spite of being more Alpha than the son. It’s difficult for an older man to pull a much younger woman especially if she’s his son’s girlfriend/wife or former girlfriend/wife. I’m willing to bet something is wrong with her though for her to do this nonetheless as this is extremely socially unacceptable. If she moves on to the next guy and he finds out, then if he has any quality, he will pump and dump her. Her family and friends as well as the son’s and father’s family and friends are shocked by the scandal of course. I believe that she is actually dumb enough to put herself on pictures for the newspaper and internet too. I doubt someone forced her pictures much less her spoken version of the story on line. It could be just as bad or worse though. When I was in the U.S. Army, I had a warrant officer in my unit when he was a lower ranking drill sergeant who had a trainee soldier who had a father who impregnated his girfriend while the said trainee soldier was in basic training. Imagine what would have happened if this soldier had his story printed and distributed worldwide online.
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The son is clearly holding back a smile. I think a lot of people get caught up in so called alpha traits and completely miss the point. The dad has a shit eating grin on his face, he’s holding his drink tight to his body, and yet he’s still banging his sons girl. “Well my game diary says you shouldn’t do that if you want to be an alpha male.” Clearly Mickey Mouse had the last laugh here.
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Mickey mouse is definitely the alpha here. He’s iced out, pulling rank with his arm around the dude’s chick right in front of his face, and throwing up a peace sign like it ain’t no thang.
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ya, kids body language IN THAT PHOTO is alpha. however, look at the other photo in the story. BETAMAXX. Not to mention, all of his behavior as delineated in the story was beta. She’s a solid 7.
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Another way to describe my immediate reaction to the visual: the dad engages. The son keeps guard.
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why are these trashy people in the news? why is this news?
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Fuck I’d hit it.
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what a bitch
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The father exudes natural alpha charm and ease. In reality, he did his son a favor. I think the kid is going to be alpha, but he’s just not there yet. For revenge, he needs to start fucking her again under Dad’s nose. Dad wouldn’t care very much would be my guess. I can’t imagine her being stimulating conversation. As long as he’s bonking her, he’d likely be cool with it. She’ll start screwing the son again in a few years, you watch. The son will bond with his father again and they shall both plug her and even do threesomes regularly. She’ll be blowing dad and taking anal from the son. I bet they could make this happen if they worked out their differences. They could get her to do all kinds of depraved stuff with other girls etc. if only they employ teamwork. This sort of thing really builds esprit de corps.
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My gut reaction was the man on the left was the alpha and didn’t give a fuck. The kid looks like he cares. Then I started to overanalyze the picture and changed my opinion. When I read the article I realized my gut reaction was right.
Good read. That has got to suck.
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The first comment on that story sums things up perfectly:
” That’s what you get for being too nice to a modern woman. She can’t help it and nobody should judge her, modern women are not responsible for their actions. 🙂
– eugen, Romania, 21/1/2012 11:32″
Of course that one’s been “disliked” about 1100 times.
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The guy on the left immediately looked more alpha to me. Is he holding the drink too high? Is he smiling too much? Who the fuck cares? A true alpha could intentionally mimick every beta body language mistake listed in nerdy PUA manuals and he would still come off as an alpha.
The dad taught his son a valuable lesson and saved him from the marriage. I hope the kid learns from this and then thanks his dad. Maybe someone should send him a link to this blog.
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You been reading MPC? When I first read the article and came to the line you quoted from the dad, I thought of your blog.
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Did you actually have a specific methodological complaint about the study or do you dismiss it without careful reasoning because it runs contrary to your beliefs?
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Girly drink? Pink Shirt? Shit eating grin? Check, check and check. I too would say the son looked more alpha. Its clear from the article however, that the son’s behavior was pretty beta.
But I would say the son had to have some degree of alphaness to pick up the hottie in the first place. She was in love with him after all. It’s just once she met the dad he had the benefit of 20 extra years of experience as well as a manly lookin forearm tat.
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I’m betting that the son is beta, but shy about showing it, which makes him standoffish and appear alpha. After all, he looks like the kind of guy that hangs around a few alphas, so he probably has the surface behavior, just not the attitude. Away from the boys his true beta self comes out, and he starts getting all lovy-dovy.
Meanwhile the dad is very similar, except he’s old enough to stop being all shy and let his beta flag fly. Except that over time, his lack of care has transmuted beta into alpha, and now he’s just a normal person.
He still retains a few beta traits however, such as the willingness to trade long-term relationships for short-term poon. After all, if he was so alpha why wasnt he already fucking a 25-year-old? Why did he have to steal his son’s missus?
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Kid, do what this guy describes and keep the bitches away from your father (tell ’em he likes to kill puppies or something, if they ask)… your life will improve.
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Father is not “alpha”.
Alpha’s know that blood family is more important than some 20-something year old girl. An alpha man would never f*ck his son’s fiance, wife, girlfriend, or whatever. A true alpha knows what respect is, the the blood between a father and a son is not something he would disrespect.
He’s a scumbag construction worker, not an alpha.
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At least the kid knew that girl was a hoe. BUT the dad has reached omega status, how pathetic you have to have your son bring around a cockhopper for you to lay. I’m all about embarrassing other men with women but your own son? Screams “I am a piece of shit”. In the end the kid will get the last laugh when his pops is beatin down and broken and the only person who would’ve been willing to take care of his old ass wishes he would die in a fire. Admirable should go hand in hand with being alpha. Snakes can pick up women that does not make them alpha. Alpha is a mindset one puts towards every aspect of their life. Sleeping with your sons fiancee is anything but alpha.
To answer your question though: the guy on the left.
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I picked the guy on the left because he was the one I would not want to fight.
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Kid looks more alpha to me too. Not to mention if the father was alpha, he’d wouldn’t have to resort to banging his son’s girlfriend to get laid.
P.S. @pm – not true at all.
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the kid’s hand/drink is moving towards covering his balls and his lower body is pointed directly at the slut even as he tilts toward the camera. paper alpha.
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Alphas gonna alpha.
Sloots gonna sloot.
class dismissed.
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The young guy on the right looks like he’s trying too hard, as though his status is merely external, “Yeah, I’m tough. I’ve got my pretty girl, my beer, and my Mickey Mouse shirt. I’m much cooler than I think I am”
The older guy in pink is an Alpha, with his Dean Martin smile saying, “everything is cool”.
The story proves that he is a low-life, immoral, skirt-chasing rascal who will not govern his base desires even for the sake of his own son, but Alpha nonetheless.
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They’re both ugly. Gross.
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This line from the story is telling:
‘Sometimes I lie in bed and cry because it’s horrible what I did to him, but on the other hand I found it impossible to control the feelings I had towards his dad.’
Women really are creatures of emotion. She is fully aware of her actions and their consequences, but she is unable to control her tingle.
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not a question of being alpha or not in this case. the family is dysfunctional white trash to the max and the girl is simply the same
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The stupidity emanating from that woman is fucking legendary. The father too.
Woman: “… but I hope one day we can all be friends again”
Father: “… and I hope one day we can be friends again”
What do you have to be smoking to be that delusional? Betaboy there was just betrayed by both his fiance AND his father. They should be counting their blessings that he didn’t have his “Beta RAGE” moment and come after them with a loaded shotgun.
“Friends again” …. Christ some people are stupid.
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Hell hath no fury like the one of an enraged beta.
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Hey, when you put the cursor over the picture and let go of it, you get a text box which says, “yo yo yo wat up goofy?”
…?
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Lets be honest: Shame on the dad. Shame on the woman.
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Don’t confuse desperately hooking up with a soulless slut as being an alpha. The dad is not an alpha; he is a beta piece of shit. I would know, because I used to be one.
When I was in college I fucked my best friend’s girl. He wasn’t just one of my good friends I had met in college. He was my best friend since the 3rd grade. We had spent almost every weeked hanging out between the 3rd grade and college. But I ignored all of that one night when he was out of town and she began flirting with me. I made a weak attempt to stop it, and then proceeded to fuck her in the ass and cum in her mouth.
What I did was unforgivable. But I couldn’t resist, because I was desperate as this dad probably was. At that point in my life I was 20 years old, had only slept with one other girl, and my last play had been 3 months prior with a somewhat chubby air force chick I met at the club. I was a solid beta with solid beta prospects. So when this hot chick (7.5) threw herself at me I had no backup pussy to rely on. If this father had been the alpha you make him out to be then he wouldn’t have had to stoop to fucking his son’s sloppy seconds.
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You did your best friend a huge favour…not that he probably talks to you at all to this day.
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The whole story got worse before it got better.
I confessed to my friend the next night when he got back to town. While I was confessing the chick was simultaneously texting me trying to set up a three-some with her and her friend. He forgve me after about a month. But then just after he had forgiven me she came into our apartment one night when he was goine with a key he had given her. She banged on my locked door for 5 minutes until I let her in. I really had no intention of fucking her, but then she started to blow me. I told you I was a piece of shit.
I didn’t confess the second time, she told him. And this time he was pretty pissed. But get this: he fuckin married this chick! At that point I felt absolved of all guilt, because if he could forgive a whore like that then why should I feel guilty.
Thankfully he and his wife ended up getting a divorce. But before they did, they came to my wedding about 4 years after all this went down. I have a picture of me between the whore and my wife in her wedding dress forever enshrined in our wedding album. But like I said, they ended up getting divorced a year later.
My old friend and I are still friends, I just helped him move last week. He’s remarried to a really sweet and attractive girl. I guess no harm no foul right?
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Let’s here it for England, there is actually a woman who is higher than a 3.
She’s a 5.5!
[heartiste: truth! as far as brit chicks go, this one’s a fuckin model.]
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A quick Google search reveals that she is indeed a small time actress who is interested in modeling. The pictures reveal that she is certainly bangable, but her eyes and facial expressiona reveal some dark, dark truths. Not sure if these were taken after her affair but they suggest a lifetime of unhappiness, perhaps accented by bouts of whorish and self destructive behavior or predicated by early abuse and neglect:
http://www.castingcallpro.com/uk/view.php?uid=287240
http://www.pha-agency.co.uk/casting/walkons/profile.aspx?ID=5040&by=group&group=20s&g=F
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Aaaand now we know why she sold her story to the papers.
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All other things anywhere near close to being equal, a guy in long pants wearing a t-shirt will win out over a guy in short pants wearing a long-sleeve shirt. Unless its ridiculous to not wear short pants or you are far and away the coolest guy within a mile, don’t wear short pants, especially not with a fucking Mickey Mouse shirt and not if you have red-headed features for goodness sakes. What self-respecting hot chick would want to fuck a guy wearing that stupid shirt? Look at the way she’s dressed compared to him. She complements better with the old man, not junior.
I’m not even sure I’d get all that excited about fucking a hot chick wearing that stupid shirt.
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Chateau Twitter update: “Feminist porn”
That video is the face of the butthurt, losing side of the great feminist civil war: the lesbian/Dworkin wing losing to the third wave “sex positive” hetero feminists.
Hang it up brawny Susans. The alpha-cock loving opportunistic hetero free-rider girls won. They thank you, lesbians and uglies, for your decades of hard work, LOL.
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The girl’s expression in the second and fourth pictures really drive home the difference. In her picture with the dad she looks coy and satisfied. Her arm is reached out on the dad’s stomach, just shy of being provocative.
In her picture with the son she’s barely holding back a sneer at his betatude.
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The picture in this post is kinda tricky because the sons posture is not totally beta but look at his face, there is this frown as if he is about to cry and no confidence at all (while the father has this asshole smirk), the other picture in the article shows him with a true beta smile.
I know that asshole behavior is alpha to women but it is possible for an asshole to be a total beta with women, therefore we don’t have enough info to conclude whether the dad is a true alpha or not, but relative to his son he certainly is, and he is certainly an asshole
He didn’t impart his son with his alpha knowledge, also notice his non-apology. I think in a way he helped his son, however. he saved him before he ended up divorced and cuckolded.
Heh, maybe if the father and son teamed up, they could use this method as a test to scan for troublesome personalities in future fiancees. lol
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Wow just wow , you hit it way out of the ballpark on this one.
I don’t get the backhand on the quote unless it hints at person being diminutive when they were before and its sort of stepping up in grooming and stuff. Its very very slight if you think about it. Perhaps that is what it takes but it seems so subtle and organic.
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Mickey Mouse is the most alfa in this picture
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It’s weird that all the above commentators think the kid is more alpha.
The dad is so relaxed with a “What up! I don’t give a fuck” attitude.
My eyes don’t even look at the boy, I look at the dad.
I think though that the Mickey Mouse t-shirt is Very Very Bad.
See that’s the difference between dumb women and smart women. The dad is like a woman with fake tits. You can’t help but look. But the son is a better catch when looked at rationally—-Far Superior Build, Taller, and he actually looks “kinder” and not such a smart ass as the dad.
She fucked up. The more I look at the photo the more I like the son.
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Great story……and I don’t feel an ounce of pity for the kid. Not getting married to a neurotic skank is clearly the best thing that’s ever happened to him.
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I love this story…….I don’t feel an ounce of pity for this kid. Not getting married to this neurotic skank is the best thing that ever happened to him. Too bad he’s learned nothing from this judging by his comments.
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Ya, that’s a good twist.
Truly the old man did his son a solid.
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Real men wear pink, eh?
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Dad has thick worker forearms and doesn´t wear a goddamn mickey mouse sweater and tracksuit half-pants even chavs see as low class.
Son looks hard at first glance but is mostly uncomfortable.in estranged dad´s presence.
Yeah, the grilled bitch had no chance but to spread it for the old man. They ALL would and do!
Something you deluded white knights just aren´t able to face.
While you oh-so-alphas can see nothing wrong with rewarding that behavior with your dicks.
Jeez, so glad I´ve opted out of this monkey circus.
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The kid dresses like an omega and looks bored, and his dad has a proper shaved/bald head, a tat, and a wolflike testosterone smile.
And you need to hit the weights if your old man looks more muscular. It’s ridiculous.
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The kid is totally beta. His eyebrows are in a puppy face angle and he doesn’t know if he is supposed to smile or not, so he half-asses it.
The father, on the other hand, knows exactly what he wants to project at that point in time.
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Should we really accept and expect this kind of shitty, dishonest behavior from women? Do we hold them in *such* low regard we don’t consider them accountable for their actions, and instead point the finger at a lack of alpha-ness in the man?
I think this mindset is dangerous and detrimental to society.
Compromise and acceptance, in measured amounts, is good for civilization.
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That’s the problem I have with the PUA culture: It doesn’t hold women accountable for their actions at all.
[heartiste: sure it does. what do you think “don’t get married” is supposed to be? a gift to women?]
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The kid looks young and fuzzy faced. Notice dad is drinking rose wine, and pink shirt matches the pink umbrella, but he doesn’t give a fuck.
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Kind of hard to not date a whore in this day and age James.
That said, am I a bastard for telling a 44 year old woman she’s past her prime, cant have children and is therefore worthless sexually, and breaking up with her after she sucked my cock?
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Although it might be true, there is no reason to be an asshole to a girl, unless she is being a bitch to you. She liked you enough to give you a BJ. Why the fuck would you do something that is probably going to emotionally devastate her? What you did wasn’t an alpha move, but a pseudo-alpha dick move. Be prepared for the false rape accusation buddy.
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Yeah, you are.
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This video had some pretty cool insights on sex and relationships…
I know these guys personally and I know that they both read CH regularly and are heavily influenced by it….just thought Heartiste would like to see that he is affecting people across the planet.
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As a 27 year old, she belongs more with the 43 year old than the 21 year old. There is a prominent businessman in St. Louis whose younger, second wife was caught having an affair with his daughter’s husband.
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Goodness, you can see that the kid is a beta by the way he places his hand on her.
Oh, and take a glimpse and the hamster:
Yeah, builders are known for their ..hm…”personality”.
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The kid does not look super beta, nor does he look alpha. Rather, relative to his father, he is playing the beta part.
The biggest giveaway are the kid’s facial expression and the position of his beer.
Typically, an expressionless pose is more alpha. In this case, however, the kid’s mouth is tensed, like he is uncomfortable with the photo being taken. Compared to his father’s amused smirk, the kid appears to be less secure and, thus, less alpha than the dad.
Also, the kid’s hand and beverage are held out front of him near his crotch. This is a classically unconscious “protective” signal; men that feel the need to hide or protect themselves will often put their hands in front of their crotch to protect their otherwise exposed baby-making parts. Or, in a related signal, men at parties and bars that are uncomfortable and alone often nurse their drinks in front of their chests/stomachs/groins. Its a protective move.
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It’s hard to be at least somewhat beta in relation to your father if he is present and somewhat alpha himself. That said, you still gotta be alpha with your girl.
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If my dad was banging my girl I’d cripple him. As for the chick, she’s expendable.
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Then why cripple the dad? For what? Saving you from making the biggest mistake of your life? This guy should be thanking his dad for the lesson at such an early age.
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For the humiliation of course. If he had stopped before having sex with her, told her to fuck off then told his son it would be a different matter.
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The kid on the left is just that a kid. He looks like a juvenile. I’m surprised he is actually 21. His girlfriend looks older him and tada she is. She’s also drinking the same thing his dad is. Big red flag. Women mimic rank alot. Pay attention at who orders what during a business meeting.
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Very interesting…never thought about how women mimic those they are interested in. Worth considering. I have had women mimic me in social situations before and their boyfriends/husbands have NOT been happy about it. I never knew why but they must instinctively know that their girl is more attracted to me, at least at that moment.
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Chicks are ruthlessly transparent. Yesterday I was in a store and checking out this brunette babe who was with her boyfriend. A few minutes later she backtracks a few aisles… all alone. I wink at her, and keep going. I don’t need the extra drama.
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1) The dad and the girl drink the same beverage. The son is not “in” on the red beverage conspiracy.
2) How long was dad and girl banging on the down-low and groping each other as they both check into the house (at family gettogethers) for “chips” or “more winespizer” or “to use the bathroom?” This is what you do when you have absolutely no respect for the third person (the beta boyfriend).
3) I (Roy Rhinestone) am a terrible dresser and hate wearing suits and ties (especially ties). I know nothing of clothing style. But I can report with full verity that I don’t even hang around the house wearing clothing of that nature.(Sweatpant shorts and “hip hop” mickey mouse t-shirt).
“Maybe we in the know should keep this paleo thing on the down low, nahwhutimean?” (CH twitter update)
Nahwhutumean? Maybe? What is this “paleo thing” that you refer to?
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The guy under the umbrella (dad?) looks more alpha to me. Kid has some bits of alpha (no smile, etc.) but can’t pull it off. Weak arm, for one (if he worked out and put on twenty pounds of muscle then he could pull off his look a lot better); also the direct gaze seems to be trying a little too hard, it’s almost like he gives a shit what you think, which the dad clearly doesn’t, smile notwithstanding. Older guy is more at ease. Higher confidence = win.
Haven’t read the story.
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Man, this shit is weird. Things look so differently after you swallow the red pill.
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His body language might seem more alpha at first, but look at the right guy’s face. He looks almost frightened to have a girl around him to me. even though the guy on the left is smiling, its not a big, goofy beta smile.
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This kid is 6 years younger than the girl – got to give him credit for pulling that off in the first place.
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Anyone else look at the first picture and think Mickey’s arm belonged to the girl?
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What a trollop!
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Sorry, but with Mickey Mouse shirt and wine spritzer just KILLS both man for me. I hate to say it, but chick has more ALPHA in her than both guys.
sort of like “……. I banged both, they know it….” her right leg is over the son’s knee – implying that she had opened it for him before and will do it again.
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This is more a story about white trash than it is about alpha dynamics. What we have here are soap-opera tabloid dramatics from semi-incestuous trailer-park Jerry Springer rejects.
Point taken about the roiling instincts just below the veneer of civilization. But to celebrate this as “alpha” is to begin dissolving the definition, blurring it with animal instinct until it becomes indistinguishable. A connection to instinct is an indispensable element of alpha but not the decisive one and far from the defining one.
I suppose the purpose of this site is to “spot the alpha” in everything rather than make a total analysis of everything going on. Yes, banging your son’s fiancée demonstrates an inarguable level of testicular mettle, and the guy is a laugh. But I dunno. These creepers who hit on fish-in-a-barrel, who require women’s sexual guard to be down (such as it is in family gatherings), aren’t the first thing that comes to mind when I think “alpha.” He scored on his son’s young but not particularly attractive girlfriend ultimately because girls from well-adjusted homes are not used to the family picnic sneak attack. Yeah, and drunkles hit on their nieces too. There are better examples of alpha. This is not a comment on the propriety of the affair; it is a comment on the degree of difficulty of the score.
Without reading the article, the man on the right has the more manly posture in that particular snapshot, regardless of the history attached to it. Drink is at waist, the smile reserved (if the eyebrows a little too goofily arched), and he’s standing tall. But most important, the woman in the scene is pressed close and turned toward him, almost interweaving her leg with his. “The kid looks softer than the dad” because the kid is younger. (In a picture further along in the story, his beta chucklehead and hover-arm shows through much more.)
But I get it. As an accompaniment to the story, the picture is a dream snapshot once you find out what went on: the father’s grin becomes “knowing” and “devious,” his back to the couple becomes representative of their secret; the girl’s eyes over the drink become conspiratorial; the cuckold’s expression becomes pathetic in its naïveté; and the distance itself of the woman — close to her chump, far from her lover — becomes an ironic symbol of the inverted reality: we the readers know who she is really close to after the picnic is packed up. We know who the real man is. One of the three pictured does not.
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Damn, I wonder how he feels towards his dad
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the wine glass covers a cearly genetically prole face. I’m british i can tell these things, they are all british and they are all proles. The girl is skinny and nothing else.
neither of these brehs is sure when i roll by in my merc cls fexin my veiny guns.
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A lot of this story makes sense, however. The son is 21, the slut is 27. Being 6 years older than your man is a huge age discrepancy for a woman. I’m surprised she even went with that guy in the first place.
She probably thought to herself, “I’m tired of being pumped and dumped by alpha’s… I’m just going to take this loyal beta and enjoy it.”
Meanwhile, the dad was much older, and described by the whore as “man who looked ten years younger than his 43 years and was very handsome.”
She obviously is still a woman who desires older men, so that’s part of the real story here.
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The kid looks softer than his dad but I wouldn’t be surprised if he eventually just turns into him…very strong resemblance…ultimately you can tell he’s substantially more alpha than the average guy his age. If anything this experience will reinforce the concept that “bitches ain’t shit but hoes n’ tricks”. If you’re gonna get burned it’s best while you’re young.
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She is 27, Lewie is 21…May-December NEVER works….EVER!!!!
(Demi-Ashton)
Nothing says pathetic like COUGAR!
That said, she and Darren are complete sacks of shit.
“hey Darren, she fucked around on her fiance…YOUR SON…how loyal do you think she’ll be with you…you putz?”
I hope a nice case of VD, and a good monkey-ass-rape divorce settlement are in your future!
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The son’s eyebrows are like / \ and the dad’s eyebrows are like – -. This one was a no brainer even for a woman.
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Nicole,
Excellent observation. Chicks are winning this thread.
Not really a surprise, now is it?
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Well, guys know an optimal WHR when they see it. We tend to know an alpha when we see one, or be able to suss out who the most alpha is in a spread of guys.
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it aint the dude with the micky mouse shirt…or is it?
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I don’t think a ‘guy’ wearing a Mickey Mouse shirt can be considered alpha.
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Neither looks that alpha. More likely a case of the higher man in her eyes. The dad looks like a seen-it-all-done-it-all type of person. Probably what attracted her to him in the first place.
She is not bad looking for 27 but her pose would drive any true alpha away after a pump. Looks careless in the picture and the dweeb beside her has a defeated look about him.
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both appear alpha, but the look on the son’s face betrays a (not-so?) latent weakness.
daddy’s facial expression is quite menacing, even when smiling.
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Why do u always publish articles from daily mail. Best British paper is the sun. I read this article other day hahahahahaha how shit is this lad to let his dad pound his girl. Alpha over and out!!!
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Dad looks more alpha because he’s got an evil grin. he’s a terrible person though. you don’t fuck the girlfriends/wives of good friends or family.
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So being an alpha means you betray your son without remorse, and that’s something to aspire to? Honestly, do you boys ever listen to yourself prattle on. In a very real sense, you’re no different than women.
Today I learned what a complete joke you fucks are.
[heartiste: alpha != admirable. you know, there comes a point when you read so much incalculable stupidity and lunkheadedness despite your numerous corrections and patient explanations to the contrary, that you stop worrying about enlightening the dull masses and just want them all thrown into a gladiatorial ring to duke it out with enraged lions.]
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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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I guess it’s hard to compete when your dad is Michael Chiklis.
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after knowing what he has done, few girls would think he is alpha. there is a limit to everything. this one sounds off.
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I don’t see why everyone is seeing the young kid as alpha. Maybe something to do with our own ages or backgrounds. Or maybe guys like his build or hairstyle- I don’t know. To me he looks reticent, but not in a confident way, more in a scared young puppy who will be eaten alive manner and truly thankful/amazed to be getting any pussy. Maybe he’s a soft wannabe-alpha. Like he read some shit about how to hold his drink and is faking the funk- not effortless confidence. his dad, while in the background of the picture, pops out, while the son fades back. The dad has this posture as if he’s saying “Yeah. All your women want to fuck me, and I’m fucking them. What are you going to do about it.”
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Actually, i do think the results of the study that you quoted has a core of truth in it. The vast majority of intelligent people i know, of which 100% of intelligent young girls, hold liberal views. I think stems from the fact that intelligent people enjoy a more thorough education and therefore a more thorough subtle political liberal indoctrination as well. Also, intelligent people easily frequently naively conclude that the wealth is there to be shared and immigration is to be encouraged because they tie this to their moral values. Nevertheless, intelligent conservatives like the gentleman running this blog is a group of conservatives different from the ”normal” conservatives because their beliefs stem from actual insight into modern society instead of lies and ignorance.
Still, most conservatives that are out there are the equally despicable ‘git out of my murrika’ kind.
[heartiste: nah, all that study shows is that SWPLs are better at concealing their racism. gated community anyone?]
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And liberals are despicable “flood the country with immigrants to drown out the current population kind,” no different than vichy france, bowing down to the new power.
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Hey! Let’s map intelligence and “prejudice” yet ferociously attack any gesture at mapping intelligence and race.
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Go to the article and it’s easier to figure out. The pic you posted was not the most illustrative one.
And she does not look too thrilled with either one of them, If she posed like that with me, I’d dump her.
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Like the others I too think the kid looks a lot more alpha that the goofy smiling dad. It was my immediate impression which remained unchanged after closer examination.
Judging by their unironic attire they are low-class people.
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The girl says that after the disclosure, “I lost lots of weight.” Dad isn’t going to last long either; the girl is now firmly on the hypergamous alpha-seeking ladder. The next guy will need game.
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Nobody seems to realize that the dad unintentionally did his son a great favor. For him to marry an unprincipled whore would have been disastrous for his life. He’s still young and will come to see it as a blessing in a few years.
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I am usually with you on these matters, but I see stealing your son’s girlfriend as the act of a desperate beta. An alpha would say, “I can get pussy anywhere, I don’t need to take my son’s fucking fiance– although I surely could.”
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This is an interesting story. I wouldn’t admire the father, or assume the woman is mentally healthy. But I suppose it shows that yet again, women respond to real confidence. I totally second what James said.
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I did not read the article, I am judging solely from the picture.
Dad: Shoulders back, standing straight up while managing to look relaxed instead of stiff. He has a look on his face that says “I run this shit”. His grin does not appear forced for the photo. He gives off the impression that he is hard as fucking nails.
Kid: Dressed like a faggot. Looks slightly awkward holding the girl. Shoulders rolled forward suggesting that he is slouching slightly. I get the vibe from that picture that the kid likes to talk a big game, but is a total pussy.
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You know you’d be “going for it” if your son brought home a hot fiance’?
Do you have an ounce of self control? Would a hot bang, who according to you are readily available in your life, be worth more than you and your son’s relationship?
[heartiste: i cannot lie, the evil thought would cross my mind. more than once.]
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Look at the other picture in the article, her face tells the whole story.
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This is NOT a usual story. The U.K. has 60+ million people so of course there are odd families around. There was also a serial killer who ate his victims and the victims knew they were gonna be eaten and they agreed to it. Usual or unusual ?
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Yeah, I don’t think this picture by itself offers the best alpha/beta contrast.
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The word she uses is interesting: “it was his old man who I had *fallen* for.” Describing attraction in this way is common, and it often serves as a way to emphasize the inevitable, unavoidable nature of attraction. In this case, as in many others in my opinion, the word “fallen” is used to evoke pity in the listener/reader for she who falls. If you fall for someone, you have succumbed to a kind of misfortune. Emma has fallen for her fiance’s father, but as her defense against the ethical implications of pursuing such attraction, she portrays her own situation as inevitable, as her own pitiable, tragic destiny.
Interestingly enough, Heartiste’s rhetoric of the alpha male, he who “inevitably attracts his quarry,” offers Emma carte blanche to give in to her hamster, rather than exercise ethical agency. In other words, she doesn’t have to worry about doing the right thing, since if the alpha male’s technique is powerful enough, she literally has no other choice but to give in to desire. According to this philosophy, when a woman is in the presence of a sufficiently alpha male, she is not responsible for her own actions, but the alpha male is, if alpha males are, as this blog has suggested before, infused with a kind of supreme power of choice.
Even more fascinating is the idea that it is precisely the ethically reprehensible nature of fucking your fiance’s father that makes the power of the alpha male seem so great, because his ability to attract women must have been strong enough to make Emma forget about what her parents taught her as a child about the difference between right and wrong and just go for it.
But isn’t it also possible that she unconsciously sought out an ethically reprehensible attraction, with the expectation that whoever inspires her to actually give in to that attraction must be so alpha that her unconscious, narcissistic valuation of her own SMV, by virtue of her being the object of the alpha’s libido, gets a boost, of which it was pathologically in need? Maybe a woman’s capacity for belief in the worth of power *is* the alphaness of the alpha male.
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Son: stupid face. Easily fooled. Dresses like an overgrown five-year-old. Standard issue English proletarian.
Father: overweight, tattooed thug. Sleeps in his clothes, evidently. Marginally more intelligent than sonny boy. No looks and no class. A real catch.
Her: the cheapest of cheap sluts. Likely disease carrier. Lousy taste in men. Not worth wasting a minute over.
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the faces say the father’s alpha (tight-lipped puppy dog expression v. confident smile), the rest says differently. more evidence that ‘the eyes never lie’.
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This old man is SO Alpha. A beautiful whore who is bragging about her abuses of junior is servicing Dad all he wants. This man is a SAS style badass.
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You guys claiming the kid looks more alpha are delusional. White Alphas don’t wear faggy shirts with Mickey Mouse dressed up and posing like some jig. And his eyes and lips are screaming “I’m a puss” to the world.
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The dad looks more classically alpha – jungle alpha. He’s got that arm tattoo, probably jailhouse. But the son is more “CH alpha” – that is, the son would have more success with more young women of that age group. Most chicks that age would automatically disregard the dad only because he looks to be about 50. Only a certain type of girl would do something like that. Sluts – who also tend to be good looking, like the chick in the picture. Can you imagine a Plain Jane doing this? I can’t.
The takeaway from the picture is that a man can still work his Game well into his 40s and 50s.
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Her left leg looks like a peg leg.
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The dad is indisputably an alpha, he has no regard for the lives of others, even his own son. His cock is the only thing he seeks to gratify.
Alpha doesn’t mean leader, or admirable, or moral. It means appealing to the hamster.
The son LOOKS more alpha, but he simply has the muscles that Dad probably had at that age. Looking at them both, there is no question about their genetic relationship.
Dad had the worldliness, smoothness and surety that appealed to the slapper cunt.
Dad wasn’t in the picture until the gf encouraged the bf to reconnect. She then saw a richer, more mature version of her bf. Hypergamy in action.
Women are whores.
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Guys you’re missing simething important here. The girl was the one who insisted on telling the beta.
I think by now, most of us can probably tell what would have happened if she hadnt. Odds are she would have had at least a kid or two by the alpha (and good luck recognizing it’s not yours from the facial features), eventually after 10+ years she would have run off with the evil shit and the truth would have come out. Try to picture being soul raped like that by your own dad. No matter what he does, thats not a man you can trust.
Anyway, theres other interesting points. He met her when he was about 20, shes 27, thats off right there.
Also, he hadnt seen his dad in 8 years. Means he grew up without a dad. Although in this case, maybe thats a good thing.
Bottom line, he looks like a good guy, just needs some direction. You know, like from a father. But these days we have to supplement that with blogs like this.
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Ooooohhh, what a brilliantly evil cuckolding strategy.
That’s Dr. No. level evil genius.
Impregnate your son’s fiance or wife because the kid will look like him, and no one will suspect.
Shudder. Pure evil genius.
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What a charming story! Thanks for sharing.
Anybody wanna bet the kid is an oops baby?
Note: Dad split Mom just after the kid was old enough to receive child support.
Dad knows how to play the game. Wonder if girlfriend will oops or if he’ll kick her to the curb before she gets a chance.
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Anyone might have his picture taken with some drunken bimbo. So what?
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The son has the look of a kid trying hard to look laidback and relaxed about him. His facial expression is strained, forced. Everything else about him doesn’t say much. The father has an easy smile on his face, that makes him look genuinely relaxed and comfortable in the party setting. The fact that he is drinking that fizzy drink might hint that he doesn’t give a damn about what men should be drinking at social gatherings. Maybe he likes the stuff, or maybe the slut just got two drinks for herself and him. Who knows?
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Kid’s heavily giddy over this chick. Dad looks like an experienced cad. Kid’s on dad’s turf. Chick’s body language is concealing something and I have reason to suspect the vibes were already on between dad and chick when this pic was taken. Dad’s relaxed, pelvis forward and grinning like he don’t have a care in the world. Interesting vector diagonals coming off dad and chick intersecting at a clean ninety degrees… the game is on!
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…talking vectors and angles again… she’s leaning off the lightey, shoulders back (at a big, fat, obtuse one-dirty-thirty-five degrees) and papa’s notioning towards her with an outstretched neck: it’s all in this pic.
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Dare I say that the kid had a lucky escape here? He is 21; the girl is 27. That’s a backwards age difference if ever there was one. I’ll bet she’d have cheated on him with someone else eventually.
I think all the kid needs to do is dust himself off and get on with life (which seems to be what he’s doing).
It seems to have been the ex-fiancee that took this story to the Daily Mail. Not very clever if you ask me. Blackburn isn’t exactly the largest town in England.
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“The crazy thing is that she is one of the rare good looking girls in GB.”
Agreed. She is quite good looking by the standards of the UK, where the women tend to be quite ugly and obese. British women also tend to be spiteful, man-hating bitches.
Although she is good looking, she has ‘amoral skank’ written all over her. The large jewelery, haughty posture, and a kind of vapid, soulless, mercenary demeanor is the hallmark of such young women. Really, you can predict that she would act like this just by taking one look at her.
Always sad to see another hapless beta give their heart to a worthless whore like this. Hopefully he has learned his lesson, and won’t repeat the same mistake in future.
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The father definitely looks alpha. His smile is something of a smug, slightly malevolent, Cheshire cat grin. It is the look of someone who is used to getting the better of life and others, with a fair hint of dark Machiavellian ruthlessness. There is certainly no warmth or benevolence that some people project in a smile.
Even the pink shirt and what looks like some raspberry girly drink are all part of it. It is as though he is so secure in his own skin and place in the world that he doesn’t need to bother making any effort to maintain the trappings of conventional bland masculinity.
The son has the weary look of a beta who is used to carrying life’s burdens, trying to play by the rules, and getting nothing but grief for it. It is notable just how world-weary he looks for someone so young.
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Insightful body language exegesis.
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indeed the kid holds the drink in a “officially” more alpha position, but look at his face and presence, one thing to have a frame, another one is whether you are able to climb out of your shell to interact with, enjoy the external world or not. The image without action doesn’t work. The kid gives a bit of a butthurt vibe compared to his father.
this post somewhat reminds me of an ancient chateau post on the Mickey Rouke / Chris Jericho video.
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Both drink holding postures are protective. Silverback is covering his chest, while Mickey is covering his balls.
In order to be a more alpha posture the low held drink should be dangling by his side.
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Whatever happened to the Beta Awards?
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Rocking the pink shirt with a wine spritzer and still looking like he owns the place. The kid just has a look of uncertainty about him to me, looks like he’s posing with a strange chick rather than his fiance.
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Exactly. Where is the spark? Where is the passion?
And as another poster mentioned, the chick is being deliberately nonchalant – covering her face with a drink – DURING HER POSE!
They are posing together, but they have no spark together.
He should be raising her temperature and not putting up with such nonchalance. Spank her, pull her hair, grab her ass. Anything to get her slightly outraged or aroused and in a more playful mood.
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Alpha Dad did a pretty shitty job of teaching his son how to go about things. The son should have kicked his old man’s ass, not for “stealing” the little whore, but for either not teaching the son at all or for teaching the son poorly.
You’re right though Heartiste. The kid does look soft and doughy and probably couldn’t fight his way out of a wet paper bag.
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You guys are really fucked up. You think its alpha to fuck your sons girlfriend? Have you ever done anything remotly manly in your lifes? To dont have any contact with your son becuse you are so weak and depraved that you cant control yourself?
America really needs to be destroyed, you are fucking up the world.
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The kid’s face betrays a hint of anxiety and nervousness, but overall his body language is pretty alpha. Standing up straight, not leaning into the girl, drink held down low…Dad looks very relaxed and self-assured, but based on the picture alone he could easily be your typical aging suburban goofball. As a commentator above pointed out, he is after all drinking what appears to be some kind of raspberry wine spritzer, and he’s holding it chest high.
If you actually read the article though, there’s another picture with just the son with the girl where he looks much more like a typical alpha.
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typical *BETA* i mean. whoops.
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The one giveaway here is the awkward posture the kid has. She’s not nuzzling into his shoulder. She’s standing on her own axis and he on his.
She should be leaning into him or hanging off him.
This looks like one of those photos where promotional models at some shopping mall pose with passersby. The nervous kid stands at attention as if there is a need to be proper.
The old man looks like he just doesn’t give a shit… The Mickey Mouse shirt looks gay. Dad is wearing a pink t-shirt which softens his otherwise hard-ass look.
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The fact that the kid didn’t beat his dad and his ex-fiancee to death with a tire iron on hearing this is what makes him a beta.
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Kid isn’t smiling, but his face is very tense (probably his body too), even distressed-looking. Dad’s posture and expression are confidently open, and his smile is similarly open and not the slightest bit submissive-looking.
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I don’t know about who looks more alpha (I thought the son at first), but the girl DEFINITELY looks like a slag. I wonder if the happy couple will get married….
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i found this picture on tumblr. it’s text game verified by bitches: http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly5bqfxf2c1qbpwzeo1_250.png
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It’s been a feast of misandry/hypergamy lately…
Woman on The Frisky complains how her husband is a “cockblock”…
http://www.thefrisky.com/2012-01-26/girl-talk-my-husband-cockblocks-me/
Mother of four shacks up with new rich boyfriend while supported by husband…
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/double_wife_in_deep_do_do_i0T9zgl3Qtqhxc4Q74IkRK
Woman accusing Greg Kelly of rape snuck out on her boyfriend, had six with Kelly on her boss’ desk and texted him before and after– before she found she was pregnant and it became “rape”…
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/01/29/woman-who-accuses-nypd-boss-son-greg-kelly-rape-exchanged-17-texts-following/
Real-life cuckold abuse/pregancy scene by wife and her new boyfriend…
http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1114925–man-brutally-tortured-by-his-wife-and-her-boyfriend-in-toronto-apartment
Woman are not respectable any more… they lie and think with their crotch.
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The guy with the ear to ear grin.
The power smile is alpha it indicates a self assuredness that everyone elses machinations have already been accounted for. A strong smile indicates that the battle has already been won.
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To the guys saying the son looks more alpha:
Who looks more out of their element in this photo? He’s got the artificially serious, on-guard tough guy pose going on. Sure a guy posturing this way is gonna come across more alpha than a nervous jittery betaboy, but less so than the guy completely at ease with his surroundings, smiling for good times sake.
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It’s amazing what a woman will do once she’s crossed a particular threshold of behavior. In this case, kissing the fiance’s dad made it easier to have sex with him, and having sex once made it easier to do it again and again. It sounds like she has never cheated on anyone before based on her comments (and those might be lies). She went from never cheated to just a kiss to sex, to sex multiple times, to breaking off the engagement and moving in with the dad, all within a few weeks.
I hooked up with a female friend when her boyfriend was working abroad and she told me that not only was I the first person she had ever cheated on anyone with, I was also somehow to blame for all the other guys that she fooled around with shortly afterward. Oh, how those hamsters can spin a yarn….
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It’s kind of piss poor to bang your kid’s girlfriend. OTOH, the kid didn’t speak to him for almost a decade, and probably won’t speak to him again after that. Even if he did possess a few alpha traits, having the carpet pulled from under you by your old man has to mess with your head. I’m just not in to going where other immediate family members have been.
Looking at the picture I couldn’t make up my mind. I read the story behind the photo and then looked at the pic again. I can see why she dropped the kid and pursued the old man. The old man is smiling, but it’s a smile that exudes confidence. He can drink a wine spritzer because he wants to. He’d probably kick your ass if you took issue with it. Check out his forearms, and then look at his kid’s forearms. Women like men who look like men.
When the man takes over the duties of wedding planner, his betrothed is stepping out on him.
Check out this article. It’s worth its own topic.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2089190/Why-women-like-cling-fantasy-swept-feet—-age-53.html
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The son has good body language with the drink and all but his facia expression betrays him. He looks worried. Its the look a kid has when its sunday night and theres a book report due monday and he doesnt even have a copy of the damn book. Maybe he knew on some level.
And on a side note, not to nitpick the poor kid but who wears long sleeves and shorts? Just seems odd but maybe thats just me.
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I just thought, I bet the happiest day in that kids life is going to be years from now when he puts his SOB father in the worst old fart home he can find.
[heartiste: something tells me the father isn’t going to make it to old fartdom.]
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Yeah, I’m not getting how the Dad is more alpha in this particular picture. If you read the article, yes, there are some other photos where the son looks very beta. But just going on this photo, with no other evidence, the son dominates. The Dad has a goofy grin on his face, the look of a man who craves acceptance and attention. It is the son who looks like he doesn’t give a shit. I think people are projecting the story onto the picture, not honestly looking at the photo (and photos lie all the time).
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I saw that expressionless face and Micky Mouse and immediately thought: “Dweeb.” And the father I first thought was an older brother.
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Something that wasn’t mentioned is that the kid was 21 and she was 27 when they started going at it.
Something to note, women almost always feel drawn to older, and not younger men.
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I am with the consensus here, the kid does indeed look more alpha on the picture above. Which just proves that one single picture does not allow an adequate assesment.
Reading the article at the Daily Mail is another story, the son is beta beyond belief. I think the last picture in the article is the one which represents him the most, just chose a picture in which both father and son were present, not the one who showed all the son’s betaness
Anyway, it may be the case that the son is not as beta as we think, because he did manage to score a girl far above the English average. The chick would be hot in Rio or Warsaw. I bet it was one of those cases where the guy got a girl way above what he was used before, freaked out and beta-yzed.
A friend of mine just told me about his sister, a 29 year old who was a 9.5 in her prime. When she was 17, her boyfriend got her pregnant. He was 20. I bet he couldn’t believe he was with such a hot girl and decided to make her “his”. As expected, he tired of her after a couple months, and she was left alone, still hot but with a child. Would you marry a 9.5 who was 22yo with a 4 yo kid?
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gig,
This woman should be able to get remarried. She will probably have to settle more than if she didn’t have a kid. My advice would be to go for an older, divorced man who also has kids.
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gods
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My son is just about 18 and pulls these hot little chicks… this scenario could certainly happen with me someday, as I am a single man…
but I wouldn’t do it with a fiancee. Bros before hos. I’m not going to lose my son over some dumb bitch.
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I hear ya, and that would be my instinct too.
But what if the dumb bitch was an obvious cold hearted slut? Wouldn’t you take one for the team and fuck up that relationship, even at the expense of hurting your relationship with your son?
It would be the cruel to be kind thing to do.
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The dangers of dating a peer, writ large.
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Jesus:
http://www.good.is/post/what-new-girl-says-about-the-new-recession-era-man/
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Burn it. Burn it with fire.
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No shit! That made me puke.
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Being guys, when we glance at the picture, we see:
1) Some dude scowling, and
2) Some dude with a big stupid smile on his face, and
3) HOLY COW – CHECK OUT THE GAMS ON THAT CHICK!!!
So without much thought, we naturally assume that scowling dude must be the alpha, cause we’re busy trying to shift our viewing angle to see whether we can catch a peek up the hawt chick’s skirt.
But if we actually take some time to study the picture, then we realize that:
A) Goofy dude’s grin isn’t so much “stupid” as it is “shit-eating”, and
B) Scowling dude isn’t really scowling, he’s frowning. And, no, wait, it’s not even a frown, it’s, it’s, it’s – puppy dog eyebrows.
PUPPY DOG EYEBROWS!!!
Now there is a time and place for puppy dog eyebrows – namely, when you’ve been caught in one of those “it’s easier to ask forgiveness than it is to get permission in the first place” kinds of situations – such as, “Aw honey, I know I promised you that I’d stop hitting on your friends, but you know that I love you the best of all!”
But you never ever ever resort to puppy dog eyebrows because you’re feeling down in the dumps and sad and depressed and like a total loser and you want your chick to come play Mommy and hold you in her arms and tell you that everything is going to be okay.
Cause if that’s the case, then you really are a total loser, and there’s nothing that chicks hate more than losers.
Nothing.
So if you wanna be an alpha, then make sure that you’re scowling, not frowning, and NEVER EVER EVER SHOW WEAKNESS BY DISPLAYING PUPPY DOG EYES [in anything but the coldest, most heartless, most sarcastic pitches to your woman].
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Dad is a contractor, while son is a laborer. Dad has more money than son. Ergo, more alpha in her Jewish eyes. Won’t be long before she beta-izes dad too. Any dad who believes “ho’s before sons” already overvalues the ‘ho, which her hamster realizes.
Son is quite beta though. His Mickey Mouse shirt, proclamations of love and marriage are pure beta. Even his ruminations about being friends with dad are pure beta: ‘I don’t know if I’ll ever be friends with my dad again, well definitely not while he’s with her. I’ve just got to get over it and I am.’
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For fuck’s sake, the kid’s wearing a Mickey Mouse shirt. You people saying he’s alpha need to snap out of it.
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This bitch has slut written all over her face. If their relationship was anything “like father like son” they would of tag teamed her then share a smoke as she staggers out the door.
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Here’s a shot of a street corner argument. Who’s the alpha here?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andygural/4694605109/sizes/o/in/photostream/
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The father is a douchebag sexless beta with no options and nothing better to do than pine over his son’s thrill-slut of a girlfriend and the move in with her like some terminal oneitis ridden cunt. If he had 10 other women he would not pull this utter crap.
There is nothing alpha about anyone and anything in this stupid, sickening story. Mental masturbation at its finest.
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Uhh… I don’t think the girl agrees with that analysis.
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That is because the girl, too, is a cunt. Everyone in this story is a bloody cunt. Sickening to the core.
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I agree and amplify. The cunt is strong in this one. Perhaps her next move is to cheat on dad with grandpa and move in with him into the nursing home. And then be entitled to half his wealth when he croaks in a year or two, surprise surprise.
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I used to live in Cambridge. Great international college town. Good for banging cute foreign chicks. Most of the locals are train wrecks. The only true Brits I have banged were in the 18-19 year range. They still have tight sexy bodies and their teeth haven’t completely rotted. It seems there’s something in the water that makes them expire soon after 19 though.
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this story and pic should be a fosters ad.
“fosters: the official drink of cuckolded chavs”
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Re: Academic Studies
In the social sciences, reading an academic study is similar to Sam Neill in “Juraissic Park” sticking his hadn inot a mountain of steaming tricerytop’s shit, only Sam actually learned something useful.
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“The fact that the kid didn’t beat his dad and his ex-fiancee to death with a tire iron on hearing this is what makes him a beta.”
FTW.
“You guys are really fucked up. You think its alpha to fuck your sons girlfriend? Have you ever done anything remotly manly in your lifes? To dont have any contact with your son becuse you are so weak and depraved that you cant control yourself? America really needs to be destroyed, you are fucking up the world.”
^This.
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“To dont have any contact with your son becuse you are so weak and depraved that you cant control yourself? America really needs to be destroyed, you are fucking up the world.”
^This.”
It happened in Great Britain, not America. Wanna try again champ?
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I think he was referring to the comments.
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apparently, this counts as news across the pond. The kid should get over it, every dude will be better off if they have a broken first engagement.
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In regards to this: Regret is not rape, #659,438 in a series. http://t.co/SigSbzmI
Not only should that woman do the time for what the man would have gotten but she should also pay money for defamation of character.
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Alphas have harems. That’s why they often REJECT women. If the father was an alpha, he would have rejected his son’s fiance.
I like this post, because it is cynical. Cynicism is alpha.
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Ps. Rejecting women is pleasurable.
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Theodore Dalrymple (nee Anthony Daniels) has been talking about the impending implosion of the UK for years. I now completely concur with him.
In addition to the white trash failures, there are now sharia “no-go” areas in the country governed by Islamic radicals. (see “Londonistan”)
It’s going to be ugly there when the shooting starts 😦
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“It’s going to be ugly there when the shooting starts”
Only they ain’t gotta 2nd Amendment across the pond.
And when teh gunz are criminalized, only teh criminalz will have teh gunz.
Muslim Brotherhood 1
Church of England 0
PS: Unless maybe those limey bastards grow some ballz and start acting like real men again.
On that point, Michael “Savage” Wiener is correct – only the soccer hooliganz can save merry ol’ England from herself.
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The vast majority of intelligent people i know, of which 100% of intelligent young girls, hold liberal views. I think stems from the fact that intelligent people enjoy a more thorough education and therefore a more thorough subtle political liberal indoctrination as well
Intelligent and productive are two highly different concepts. I bet there wasn’t a time in history of civilization that the upper echelons of the IQ curve devoted so much of themselves to un-productive, or even highly destructive, activities.
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I’m glad that the reaction to this bullshit has been overwhelmingly negative to this story, even at the chateau where alphaness is celebrated
Father and fiance both deserve to fucking die
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Both the father and the son SUCK with their fashion.
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disappointed in CH claiming the dad is alpha. is the bar really that low? the fact is, theyre both beta, but the son is beta to the point of being cringeworthy. the fact that hes even considering of being friends with his dad again shows hes learned absolutely nothing from any of this, and hes going to have girls abandon him disgracefully many times in the future.
and i find it funny people are advocating violence against the dad for what he did. who actually fights over skanks? what the son should be doing is biding his time for when his dad and ex-fiancee break up (which they will) and wait for the top class pussy his dad will get in the future. the girl in the article is only a 6, and a 6.5 in the one glamor shot. after all this press, the dad is going to start pulling 7’s and up. at some point though, the dad will settle down, possibly marry. and thats when the son should swoop in and take her from him. even if it take years for this to happen, that should be the plan.
the guys that flood the penal system of every nation who came home and found their wives creeping and then kill the wife and the guy are just pathetic wimps. revenge should be like fine wine. patiently wait as it ages, until the appropriate time when it should be sipped and savored.
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Alpha is a social status. There may be traits that are more or less facilitating to it, but the alpha male is whoever is the top dog in a social unit. In this case, it’s the dad.
This kind of behavior though, is why many alphas have a tendency to get dead or leave a trail of damage that comes back to bite them in the ass. They’re often impulsive and don’t count the costs.
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@caRIOca Alphas don’t necessarily have harems. I don’t know if I’m alpha or not really, but I certainly have left a trail of rejected women in my wake. For me it’s simple logic, once I get to know them and their life situation, I then evaluate if I want their special brand of bullshit in my life or not. Given that I have a young daughter, I have to be careful not to let a psycho broad mess with my life, given that the modern western fembot predominantly falls into the psycho pain in the arse category, I tend to launch lousy women without a second thought.
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Seriously, you guys calling the kid “alpha” must have never met a true cad in real life. Forget about their clothing (it’s a consequence of class not social savvy) who’s drinking what and how low they hold their drinks. This is a relaxed social situation. Look how relaxed and socially appropriate the father’s body language is. The dad is the kind of guy who will say anything to anyone. He gets attention not because he is attention or approval seeking but because he is fun to hang out with. I bet everyone agrees he can be kind of a jerk, but “that’s just how he is” and he gets away with it. The “goofy” smile on the father is self amusement and ridiculous social confidence. Contrast this to the kid. He is at a family gathering of people he presumably knows, yet he is on gaurd. His body language is stiff and stilted. He looks nervous and his faux tough-guy pose and MMA fighter haircut ain’t helping. It’s inappropriate for the relaxed setting and looks practiced and unnatural. He looks like he’s about to try to defend his woman against some perceived slight. Typical white knight. And the girl is just using him as a prop to pose against.
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Can’t make a hoe into a housewife…and physically dad doesn’t have much on his son( to all the old dudes saying dad looks more stout)…who’s the sucker here? They both need to remember —- “she’s not your girlfriend it’s just your turn”
If dad marries her, no matter his alphaness, she’ll take cock on the side. Think that is missed here often. You can be supreme mothafuckingamemasta but if she’ll cheat with ya, she’ll cheat on ya
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Check the eyebrow ridge. Dad’s is relaxed, even. Son’s is sloped up in the middle in a sort of supplicating position.
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I agree about the son looking weaker particularly in facial expression, but the girl *exudes* guilt. Her body is overly turned away from her lover while she conceals her face with the glass. A true slut would look perfectly, sociopathically normal.
I suspect that the fact that she probably heard all kinds of bad-boy stories about the dad before she even met him primed her pussy for optimal plundering. The son was probably unwittingly the ultimate PR man for his dad’s cock and balls.
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Dads a beta, his son is 21, means he was 22 when he had him. I’d never do that to m son, because when my son is 21, i’ll be dead. My 80 years on this panet will be over. It’ll be up to his mid forties milf mother to make sure the girls he brings home are in order.
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Fucking proles.
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Not sure if anyone posted this link:
http://www.pha-agency.co.uk/casting/walkons/profile.aspx?ID=5040&by=group&group=20s&g=F
She doesn’t look attractive at all, and these are model shots so this is her at her best.
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All the body language comments are interesting but are missing something key. You look at the kids upper body and it looks alpha. Even beta’s know the need to show strength on a subconcsious level. Look at this lower body it’s giving him away. His hips are pointing towards her. You can tell by his legs that his unseen feet are pointing to her as well. So this is a guy who’s falling hard for the girl but trying to play cool. That’s why his upper body has an alpha look. But he’s only imitating the alpha.
As for her body language it does indicate interest but it is over exaggerated. She’s lying to herself and those around her that she’s attracted to the beta. Her exaggerated body language is an attempt to sell that lie.
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