We have previously proved that overconfidence — the “irrational” (is it really irrational when it gets you what you want?) belief that you are better than you really are — will bring you more success with women than having a realistic appraisal of yourself. Poon Commandment XI — be irrationally self-confident — was thus validated by science. In keeping with the spirit of the post, Chateau proprietors gloated. Then preened. Then stroked our egos to a glorious mental money shot.
Now comes another study confirming a core conceit of game that finds men who overestimate women’s attraction for them likely have more mating success.
Why men overestimate their sexiness: it’s evolution, study proposes.
Does she or doesn’t she…? Sexual cues are ambiguous and confounding. We-especially men-often read them wrong. But a new study hypothesizes that the men who get it wrong might be those that evolution has favored. […]
The research involved 96 male 103 female undergraduates, who were put through a “speed-meeting” exercise-talking for three minutes to each of five potential opposite-sex mates. Before the conversations, the participants rated themselves on their own attractiveness and were assessed for the level of their desire for a short-term sexual encounter. After each “meeting,” they rated the partner on a number of categories, including physical attractiveness and sexual interest in the participant.
The results: Men looking for a quick hookup were found to be more likely to overestimate the women’s desire for them. Men who thought they were “hot” also thought the women were hot for them-though men who were actually attractive, by the women’s ratings, did not make this mistake. The more attractive the woman was to the man, the more likely he was to overestimate her interest. And women tended to underestimate men’s desire. [ed: if only the poor dears knew.]
A hopeless mess? Evolutionarily speaking, maybe not, say the psychologists. Over millennia, these errors may in fact have enhanced men’s reproductive success.
“There are two ways you can make an error as a man,” said Perilloux. “Either you think, ‘Oh, wow, that woman’s really interested in me’-and it turns out she’s not. There’s some cost to that,” such as embarrassment or a blow to your reputation. The other error: “She’s interested, and he totally misses out. He misses out on a mating opportunity. That’s a huge cost in terms of reproductive success.” The researchers theorize that the kind of guy who went for it, even at the risk of being rebuffed, scored more often-and passed on his overperceiving tendency to his genetic heirs.
Hmm, which other Poon Commandment does this most recent scientific study confirm? Oh yes, here it is…
XIII. Err on the side of too much boldness, rather than too little
Touching a woman inappropriately on the first date will get you further with her than not touching her at all. Don’t let a woman’s faux indignation at your boldness sway you; they secretly love it when a man aggressively pursues what he wants and makes his sexual intentions known. You don’t have to be an asshole, but if you have no choice, being an inconsiderate asshole beats being a polite beta, every time.
Helicopter meatspin!
If overconfidence is the art of thinking highly of yourself, then overestimation is the equally important art of thinking women think highly of yourself. And, as science and everyday observation inform us, men who are both overconfident in their self-beliefs and who overestimate women’s desire for them are men who score more pussy. You can’t argue with results, even if you find the path taken to success to be unpalatably douche-y.
And for those of you who are primed to erupt on cue about the douchiness of this sort of alpha male behavior, it would behoove you to keep in mind that it is women, not men, who are primarily responsible for the behaviors of men who are seeking mates. If women, as the gatekeepers of sex, did not reward men for their overconfident swagger or their overestimation of their desirability, then we would see less of this behavior among men.
Ask not for whom the douchebag smirks; he smirks for thee.
This study should also throw a bucket of cold ice on a slew of feminist shibboleths. It turns out “no” actually means “keep trying, and you increase your odds of getting between my legs”. And you know that all too common and irritating feminist bleat — one you hear conspicuously often from sluts and slut glorifiers — that unwanted male attention is akin to potential rape? Well, if this study’s conclusions are any indication, men who presume their attention is wanted do better with women than men who humbly bow to their place in the mate hierarchy.
That sound you hear is a million hamsters wheezing for breath.
This post, and the one before about overconfidence, are really exegeses on the rich, creamy pith of game. Every master seducer, every natural who seemingly beds women with the same ease that a sexless nerd drone inserts a memory stick, shares these two traits in common: they have a bottomless well of self-confidence, and they approach every girl as if she can’t wait to experience the pleasure of their company.
TRUE
OR
NOT.
This is the final destination of rock solid inner game. The moment you stop second-guessing your worth, the day you start assuming every girl wants you, is the point in time of the seduction singularity that propels you into a world — a secret society, as one noted pickup artist famously put it — where the mystery of women is made pedestrian and the journey to the center of their hearts becomes as uneventful as a daily commute.
Funnily, the author of the study — a woman, judging by her name — was so scandalized by the implications of her findings that she came to offer advice completely at odds with her study’s conclusions.
The research contains some messages for daters of both sexes, said Perilloux: Women should know the risks and “be as communicative and clear as possible.” Men: “Know that the more attracted you are, the more likely you are to be wrong about her interest.” Again, that may not be as bad as it sounds, she said-“if warning them will prevent heartache later on.”
Let me see if I have this right: men who presume women are interested in them get more sex. So this means men should stop presuming interest from women. Gotcha! You gotta love the female thinking process at work here, which basically amounts to “men should behave against their interests so that women may maximize their interests”. No, Carin Perilloux, a more sensible conclusion to draw from the study is that men should continue doing that which gets them the most sex, your tender equalist sensibilities to the contrary notwithstanding.
Yes, even smart chicks have hamsters. In fact, their hamsters are supercharged. Better, stronger, faster. Which means more opportunity for a man with game to spin their wheels.

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Irreverence is clearly
your best medium
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He Who Dares, Wins
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Yup. Fuck lookin’ like an asshole, there’ll always be another woman who’ll buy it along in a couple of minutes. Yeehah!
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Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssss
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Men: “Know that the more attracted you are, the more likely you are to be wrong about her interest.” Again, that may not be as bad as it sounds, she said-”if warning them will prevent heartache later on.”
I’m streaching but there is an element of wisdom buried here. Go for it even though you might be wrong and if you are don’t get oneitis to avoid the heartache. In short don’t be too attached to the outcome.
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It never ceases to amaze me how much research is made, how much of it is crap and how hard researches work to prove false points and to hide the truth
What this Carin chick gonna do next? Prove the existence of the Sun?
Anyway, the hottest girl I have ever dated did biology in college. Se did a research on life expectancy of scorpions under extreme conditions and the greatest result she came to was that a certain kind of scorpion could survive 18 months without food. It took her almost two years to starve the poor thing.
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Don’t annoy the scorpion, ladies.
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If a dude is a solid 5 and thinks he’s a 10, he’ll go hit on a whole lot of 9’s and 10’s and will probably be unsuccessful, but might just happen to get one once a decade if she lost her contacts. If he targeted 7’s and 8’s with equivalent game, he’d have much, much more success. If he just hits on everyone from 6-10, he may well get the most success – though with higher risks and higher costs.
[heartiste: reread the study for comprehension. the issue isn’t about men hitting on 9s and 10s to the exclusion of 7s and 8s. it’s about men assuming women of any attractiveness find them desirable and interesting. men who overestimate women’s attraction in this way have more success with women. overconfidence in oneself works the same way for men. women genuinely, sincerely, desrie men with scads of self-confidence, warranted or not, and women genuinely, sincerely, reward such men with their parted pussies.]
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To put another way, just alter the way the target perceives you.
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Perception is reality for stupid people, so just be first to dump ’em after gettin’ the goodies.
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Dammit, if there were one study highlighted by the host that would be most infuriating to the AFC’s out there, it’s this one. “Oh,” says the part of my brain that must be killed, “you shouldn’t go out to the floor and dance on girls you find hot, that’d be bad because…mumblemumblemumble, respect them, mumble mumble.” Talk about being programmed to fail. I don’t know if that’s genetics or environment, but man, that attitude has to be stopped. (and I guess this covers dance-floor/dance club game, eh?)
related, I observed my gf talking to her equally hot sister when we three were out of the town, and their attitude was, “what’s that guys problem, hit on my single hot-ass sister.” That is, even the hot bitches think “what’s wrong with you, hit me up.”
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Kool, and now we need to come up with ways of avoiding the ever approaching potential/actual rapist charge.
The more confident and sure you are the more you will get the charge of rapist thrown at you. The navigation of this will become ever so trickier.
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great post. Fortunately, my vanity already serves me fully in this regard.
It’s frustrating that people will point to a man with vanity and call him a douche for it
when they don’t realize that our vanity is one of the best things about us.
It causes us to be fucking awesome, to sustain it.
and everyone is vain, anyway. I just don’t hide it. I think this is far more honest, and therefore appealing to women, rather than the nice guys who squash their ego willingly under a girl’s stiletto
Balls = confidence = vanity = ego… call it what you want. Just own that shit.
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“I like a man who brags… because then he tries to live up to it.”
– attributed to Mae West.
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bro, the OP is not about vanity, but since you went there lets have a closer look at your style. http://www.TheSolomonPress.com/Page_4.html
your suits are ill fitted; at least a size or two off. you rock wack euro-mirror shades that look like they are $9.99 walmart cash-till specials. you take a lot of pics w scrunchy zoolander faces w/o near the model chops. and are you really wearing a polyester sleeveless under a leather jacket, just to show off your pasty fat-big arms that you are clearly pressing for max width? speaking of undershirts, don’t ever wear an adams-apple hugging black-t under a black dress shirt on a night out. and btw, drop your mango-daquiri a foot or two. if you’re gonna fail body lang 101, at least don’t draw attention to it with a stoplight-yellow drink.
but then you go here and brag about your vanity as if:
-you deserve it
-its a badge of honor
-its appealing to chicks (hint, chicks want personality confidence, not a 3.6 who thinks hes a 10.1 on the physical.)
and don’t even get me started on that pic w the kids on the couch. you look like a priest.. w a gut.
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Student,
Or you a hater or just in love with this dude?
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“or just in love with this dude?”
projecting much, mr. whiteknight?
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Your census of this guy’s supposed flaws is textbook feminist shaming language.
I’m curious as to why you felt the need to attack this guy.
Maybe you felt he was “douchey,” was that it?
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And what can we (women) do to maximize our success with men?
[heartiste: be hot, be young, be sweet.]
Is it better to be humble or does it help to believe in your own sexiness (even when you are not)?
[every guy loves a shy girl.]
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I beg to differ, Heartiste. Being shy is by no means an obvious plus to me. As much as this blog pushes all-guns-blazing, intensely sexual interactions with females, I appreciate a forward and open personality in women (at least in LTRs).
[heartiste: some men do. but the majority of men subconsciously prefer coy women. it’s the hunter-hunted mentality. my theory is that naturally introverted nerds closer to the autistic end of the personality spectrum like the idea of women who make their intentions transparent because it takes so much of the pressure off them to approach those girls. (this is also why nerds love unrealistic butt-kicking babes). but for men who don’t have crippling approach anxiety, picking up a shy or coy girl is a sweet victory indeed.]
Being shy is a frustrating character trait. Of course, being overly cocky or having an attitude is equally annoying…
[the biggest advantage of a shy girl is that she is very likely to make a faithful girlfriend, and to have had few past sexual partners. that’s nothing to sneeze at if LTR is your thing.]
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I think freudian psychology has some merit in this issue.
Men with distant mothers generally want high-achieving confident partners.
Men with mother hens generally want shy girls.
There is some overlapping between this and what your genes command you to do. But ultimately, going for shy girls makes the most sense evolutionarily speaking.
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Shyness is for girls … What about adult women? What can we do?
[heartiste: gardening.]
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Yeah, gardening is cute … I was asking more for everyday life … I’m actually very shy, too shy, and that’s not okay for an adult person. Shyness is a childish emotion. You can’t be a shy adult woman. It’s weird. Everyone thinks you’re incompetent or stupid … whatever … this is off topic now. Thanks for talking to me anyway.
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“Thanks for talking to me anyway.”
Maya, stop this. Go be an adult. Garden.
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Stop setting him up.
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Just worship the cock. Don’t you know anything?
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*accidentally hits heartiste with a spade*
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That’s what I call calling a spade a spade.
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Didn’t mama teach you anything, girl?
Be sweet, make a guy feel like he’s the only thing in the world that you can think about when you’re with him… and be sweet… make him believe the tits, hips, and lips are his and his alone… and be sweet.
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JNH is typically a race-baiter, but here he is accurate about male-female interaction.
More love, less hate. Long live the people!
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Wrong, Hymie… JNH steps up to defend YT against all Cyberian agents of cognitive dissonance and agenda-laden anti-White bloviators.
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“And what can we (women) do to maximize our success with men?
[heartiste: be hot, be young, be sweet.]”
And if you’re unable to be that, go to Paris and study french women.
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Yep.
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There is a place in your mind that allows you to act very confident in yourself and your ability to attract women while not clouding your mind with arrogance.
It’s not irrational to act as boldly and confidently as you can, because there is really so little to lose.
You can still keep that self-evaluative, critical mind intact.
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The problem here is that most men do not understand the law of cause and effect as it pertains to sex. The link between self-esteem and sex has been thoroughly documented, but here’s the kicker: if you crave indiscriminate sex, what you are really after is not sex, but an unearned, temporary, fraudulent sense of self-esteem. That’s why you feel empty after you go dumpster diving with a slut “just to break my cold spell”; it is the subconscious realization that what you really wanted (self-esteem) is not to be found between a woman’s legs. Your self-esteem is not hers to give you, nor can it be replaced by your ability to deceive. Yes, self-esteem leads to sex, but it better be real or the only person you cheat is yourself.
[heartiste: this reeks of anti-male quackery. sex feels good. sex feels really good with pretty girls. lots of sex with a variety of pretty girls feels great, and falling in love with one or more of those girls is the best feeling in the world. none of this has anything to do with self-esteem, except in the vague generalized sense that, post-coital, i feel pretty damn good.]
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LOL @ “Helicopter meatspin.” I want to see the troll comment that’s all like, “Oh, so you think helicopter meatspinning is alpha and you want guys to helicopter meatspin all the time?”
Hey y’all, if you aren’t checking out the sidebar Tweet links, get on it.
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John Donne flipped over a few times in his grave there- seduction =/= mortality. Funny though.
[heartiste: au contraire, good sir! seduction is the closest thing we have to immortality.]
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True ‘nuf- the life force, and all that. Donne was making the opposite point though, with Christian overtones: we all turn to dust eventually. I guess I should have said it was deft, as well as funny, to turn the phrase on its head like that. I suppose there was no shortage of aristocratic douchebags in his day, so he might well have recognized the point. He did write a handful of fascinating poems that express both Christian theology and erotic imagery, in equal parts.
I’m Donne with all that though. Didn’t mean to derail.
More on point of the post: it seems to me like overestimation is simply a subset of overconfidence, a different aspect of the same thing.
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But how do you know you haven’t gone too far and ended up raping her?
[heartiste: watch for the cervical bump. if you’re not hitting it, it’s loving intimacy. if you’re hitting it, it’s rape.
hth, troll.]
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“Cervical bump”? What the fuck is that?!
I pack some big meat and I consistently hit the “end” (or “top”), which almost always makes them crazy (in a good way). They keep pestering me for more.
I’m interested in what you meant here.
[heartiste: it was a joke. that “guy” was a troll.]
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I like how after thousands of years of wisdom from our ancestors, feminists come along and destroy or hide this knowledge…
…so we have to perform countless studies in order to know what everyone knew before feminism came around.
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[13] And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent (tucker max fucked her in the butt in a sectretive taping of butthex fiat-fundeed with his tiny sperhpnet lozozl sperhphent lzozozlz) beguiled me, and I did eat.
[14] And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go (faking your hieght on your book covers), and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
[15] And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
[16] Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
–http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/kjv/kjv-idx?type=DIV1&byte=1477
Sodomite
The Authorized King James Version translates Deuteronomy 23:17 as “There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel,” but the word corresponding to “sodomite” in the Hebrew original, Qadesh (Hebrew:קדש) does not refer to Sodom, and has been translated in the New International Version as “shrine prostitute”; male shrine prostitutes may have served barren women in fertility rites rather than engaging in homosexual acts; this also applies to other instances of the word sodomite in the King James Version.[6][7]
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Awesomeness
Imagine Fucker Max going mano a mano in a battle of wits with Odysseus. He would end up crying on the plains in front of Ilium, hopefully with a nice Ithacan spear shoved straight up his candy ass.
Oh I forgot – the bullsh*tter is now into MMA so he would probably get his *ss kicked from here to the river Styx after challenging Achilles
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because tucker max buttfucks girls and tapes it without their conthent, top women editors and top women cultural neoconths heap praise on him, finacncnem him, publish him, and promote hims
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so anyeways teh fiat masters trianed owmen in the arts of divorce debuachery deseefxation destruction lozlzolzlzlz and abortion and debt creation, and as womenze rose to power on teh ffront lines of the epreemptive wars against teh unborn they murdered 50,000,000 since rose vs. wade they deconstructed and debuached tehc ulture on campuses as when yhou put womenze in charge it soons becomes all butthex all the time as priscilia paintion woemnze editor in chief of simon and schuster is publishing tucker max’s next book zlzolslssslslsoslsoslzozlzlzlzlz c hecks che-=checks it out peoples are saying and speaking out about the way womenze are debucahing defiling and butthexing the culture lozlzlzlzlzl:
http://community.feministing.com/2009/09/why-are-female-executives-publ.html
Why are Female Executives Publishing Tucker Max?
Saw this floating around. good question!
MCCOY MOUNTAIN
ART, FILM, & LITERATURE GUILD OF AMERICA
Ms. Priscilla Painton
Simon & Schuster Editor in Chief
RE: ASSHOLES FINISH FIRST, Secretive Tapings of Anal Sex without The Girl’s Consent, Corporate Douchebaggery, and the Epic Failure of I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell
Despite the fact that teenagers nationwide are going to hear gem pick-up lines like “get away from me or I’m going to carve another fuck hole in your torso”, what truly crowns this film as an epic fail is its apologetic attempt to masquerade gratuity as an Apatovian bromance. –http://www.thelmagazine.com/newyork/we-hope-you-can-still-get-alcohol-poisoning-in-hell/Content?oid=1291260
“Little Italy is fighting back against Tucker Max ‘s controversial ad campaign . Yeah, that poster on the right says, “Blind Girls Never See You Coming.” Va fan culo, indeed.” –http://gothamist.com/2009/09/21/tucker_max.php
Dear Ms. Painton,
I and my colleagues in the ART, FILM & LITERATURE GUILD have a couple questions regarding the direction you are taking Simon and Schuster in. Why are you guys/gals hating on art, literature, culture and America? It was recently brought to our attention that you are intent on publishing Tucker Max’s ASSHOLES FINISH FIRST, and that your company actually gave him a $300,000 advance for his fart art. As the editor in chief of Simon and Schuster, owned the CBS corporation, do you truly believe Assholes Finish First? It is oft said that girls like “bad boys.” Does Tucker’s fart art douchebag wit titillate and excite you? Is that why you are publishing and profiting from it? Did you laugh during Tucker’s recent film flop when what’s-his-name stated that overweight women aren’t real people? Do you smile smugly when your billion-dollar corporation profits from douchebaggery?
http://gawker.com/5363233/tucker-maxs-campaign-of-hate-against-chicagos-transit-system “The ads were poetic ditties of white text on a black background . Like: “Blind girls never see you coming” and “Strippers Will Not Tolerate Disrespect (Just Kidding).””
“Over at the Washington, D.C., premiere, Max’s video minion ridicules both Vietnamese and African-American women, the former for being employed as a pedicurist, and the latter for having a name he finds funny.”
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2009/09/10/spot-your-local-tucker-max-douchebag/
Do you enjoy profiting from making fun of Asians and overweight women? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1220628/board/thread/148314040
http://tuckermaxdoucebag.blogspot.com
http://tuckermaxlies.blogspot.com
Does this make you laugh Ms. Painton? It is not too late to choose the right direction for Simon and Schuster and CBS and walk away from publishing Assholes Finish First . At most it will bring in a few pennies, which will lead everyone to conclude that you and CBS aren’t in it for the money, but just the debauchery and destruction of the culture. As Tucker Max pointed out, the feminist movement empowered women and gave them the right to choose the art they affiliated with and promote. So now, with all the power in your hands, what will you chose on behalf of women all over the world? Please do us proud and choose the right thing.
“The ad campaign for the new flick “I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell” includes slogans like “Deaf Girls Can’t Hear You Coming” and “Strippers Will Not Tolerate Disrespect (Just Kidding!).””
–http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-beat/New-Movie-Ads-Take-Offensive-to-the-Max-59695522.html
Why is corporate America, under your direction Ms. Painton, forcing epic “Richard Kelly” fail fart art and film on the common public? Do you also find secretive tapings of anal sex without the girl’s consent to be entertaining and titillating art?
http://gawker.com/5363233/tucker-maxs-campaign-of-hate-against-chicagos-transit-system
Let’s talk for a sec about something Tucker glamorizes and pretends is funny in his ‘book’: filming a naked women in his bedroom without her consent. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that while he’s doing this he is coaxing the girl to have anal sex with him, an exploitative act that a guy like him probably especially enjoys.
–http://www.bitchmagazine.org/post/douchebag-decree-marketing-tucker-max
– http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2009/09/11/the-rapiest-quotes-from-i-hope-they-serve-beer-in-hell/
“OK, we can try anal sex , but I want it to be special and romantic. …. process: I was going to fuck her in the butt and film it without her consent ,” — http://www.tuckermax.com/archives/entries/date/tucker_tries_buttsex_hilarity_does_not_ensue.phtml
Do you and the CBS Corporation find this entertaining? As you know, sodomy is a sin in the Old Testament as is sex out of wedlock and fornication. What is your motivation in working with those who promote and profit from secretive tapings of anal sex?
Do you find such “literature” and “art” to be representative of Simon and Schuster and CBS?
“In one of his most notorious pieces, he convinces a girl to have anal sex and tapes it without her consent.” — http://www.salon.com/mwt/broadsheet/feature/2009/09/08/tucker_max/
Despite the fact that teenagers nationwide are going to hear gem pick-up lines like “get away from me or I’m going to carve another fuck hole in your torso”, what truly crowns this film as an epic fail is its apologetic attempt to masquerade gratuity as an Apatovian bromance. –http://www.thelmagazine.com/newyork/we-hope-you-can-still-get-alcohol-poisoning-in-hell/Content?oid=1291260
Ms. Painton–do you find that entertaining? Is it good literature? Do you consider demeaning stories about having sex with midgets good literature? Do you consider it good business to make fun of Asians, overweight women, and minorities so as to bolster your bottom line?
What is driving you to publish Assholes Finish First ? What are your motivations? Money? America does not want Tucker Max, as demonstrated this past weekend at the boxoffice. Do you find these signs to be entertaining/a good CBS investment?
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2009/09/15/tucker-max-fans-fight-rape-with-racism/
Is Tucker Max’s fan base the group that Simon & Schuster is seeking to serve under your leadership?
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2009/09/14/tucker-max-too-sexist-for-ad-space/
It seems that America believes otherwise as Richard Kelly and Tucker Max’s I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell has proven to be a colossal artistic and financial failure.
“Not faring so well, however, was the Tucker Max adaptation I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell, which took in $369,000 from 120 theaters with a well-below-average $3,075 per-screen average.” — http://www.movieweb.com/news/NEdXykfeBDXwhe
So Priscilla, please tell us about your douchetastic love affair with Tucker Max and his fart art. Does it really titillate you as a woman and feminist? Say it isn’t so! Is this good Simon and Schuster/CBS branding? Why did your massive billion-dollar corporation reward Tucker with a $300,000 advance?
“Little Italy is fighting back against Tucker Max ‘s controversial ad campaign . Yeah, that poster on the right says, “Blind Girls Never See You Coming.” Va fan culo, indeed.” –http://gothamist.com/2009/09/21/tucker_max.php
Does CBS and Simon & Schuster approve of registering fake email accounts to promote stories regarding secretive tapings of anal sex without the girl’s consent?
” The lack of traditional plugs forced Max to promote his web site and book via the internet. He would create fake e-mail accounts and then bombard entertainment sites and news aggregators with links to his material.” — http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/03/11/tucker_max_sxsw/
For this, your billion-dollar corporation rewarded Tucker with a $300,000 advance.
“Max may have to concentrate on his agent style business moving forward because he’s running out of material. He’s received a $300,000 advance for a second version of his drunken, sexual exploits – a tome that will contain the stories not ripe enough for the first cut.” — http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/03/11/tucker_max_sxsw/
Are you proud of Simon & Schuster and your corporation? Funding and encouraging hype, failure, douchebaggery, debauchery, lies, secretive tapings of anal sex without the girl’s consent, and making fun of Asians, overweight women, and minorities. Is that what attracts you to Tucker Max, or is it the epic artistic and financial failure of his film?
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/i_hope_they_serve_beer_in_hell/
“I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell fails in its attempts at raunchy humor, and Tucker Max comes across so unlikable and outrageous that the film’s inevitable story arc feels forced.”
It is not too late to choose the right direction for Simon and Schuster and walk away from publishing Assholes Finish First .
Best,
McCoy Mountain & The ART, FILM & LITERATURE GUILD
–http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1220628/board/thread/148314040
Will Priscilla Painton at Simon & Shuster still Publish *beep* Finish First?
the title makes no sense. *beep* might finish first in some silly women’s eyes, but they epic fail in reality, as demonstrated by tucker’s epic fart art film fail, which priscilla painton is pretendning not to notice.
What’s up with women these days?
It seems the more they run things, the more they try to force douchebag fart art on everyone:
Former ‘Time’ Exec. Relieves Venerable Editor Mayhew At Simon & Schuster
http://gawker.com/5002333/former-time-exec-relieves-venerable-editor-mayhew-at-simon–schuster
Anywho, does Priscilla Painton at Simon & Shuster have a personal vendetta against asians, minorities, overweight women, and little people?
Does she think tucker’s ads are cute and humorous?
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-beat/New-Movie-Ads-Take-Offensive-to-the-Max-59695522.html
Does she get off on this?
“The ad campaign for the new flick “I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell” includes slogans like “Deaf Girls Can’t Hear You Coming” and “Strippers Will Not Tolerate Disrespect (Just Kidding!).”
Is that supposed to be funny?” –http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-beat/New-Movie-Ads-Take-Offensive-to-the-Max-59695522.html
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2009/09/10/spot-your-local-tucker-max-douchebag/
Is this the new face and culture of simon and schuster?
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2009/09/15/tucker-max-fans-fight-rape-with-racism/
Does Priscilla Painton at Simon and Schuster giggle at secretive tapings of anal sex without the girl’s consent and also this:
http://www.penguinblogs.ca/davidson/archives/00000079.html
http://tuckermaxlies.blogspot.com/2008/08/sillylittlefreak.html
http://www.tuckermax.com/archives/entries/date/the_absinthe_donuts_story.phtml
“11:17: The girl starts saying something about what a horrible person I am. I stare at her, but I am not listening. I am preparing myself. I am B-Rabbit. This is the final battle rap. I will win the hostile crowd:
[I interrupt the fat girl] “Ward, I think you’re being a little hard on the Beaver, [as I point to each in turn] so is Eddie Haskell, Wally, and Miss Cleaver.”
[To the fat guy with greasy hair in the camo vest] “Look out everyone! It’s the Pillsbury Commando! Hey Chunk, when was the last time you washed your hair? Does it give you more hit points to have that grease helmet? I hate to break the news, but +5 defense only counts in Dungeons and Dragons.”
[To the ugly Asian girl] “Why you no rike me? You want me frip over? You no piss me off! ME FIND YOU IN POCKING ROT!! YOU NO TAKE MING ARIVE!!”
[To the small frail dork–I notice he has a lazy eye] “Dude–Look at me when I’m talking to you–BOTH EYES AT ONCE. Are you really this ugly or are you just playing? EVERYONE, BE CAREFUL, THIS GUY LURKS UNDER THE STAIRS AND TRIES TO LICK YOUR SHOES WHEN YOU PASS BY!”
[To the original fatty, pause for effect] “Why do you do this to yourself? WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO YOURSELF? Look, I’m gonna give you some advice-leave the party, take the geek squad with you, go to Denny’s, order about 10 Grand Slam Breakfasts, and eat your pain away. Won’t be the first time will it?”
11:19: I am finished. The kitchen is quiet, except for Eddie and Rich laughing. The four freaks are completely speechless. Everyone is staring at me. I blurt out, “WHAT? I’m pretty sure it’s what Jesus would’ve done.” Eddie and Rich promptly remove me from the kitchen.”
Is Priscilla Painton publishing tucker’s next book for the love of literature, art, or money?
‘Cause it seems that those who work with tucker generally hate and lose literature, art, and money.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priscilla_Painton
http://www.theladyfinger.com/2009/09/tucker-max-brings-his-misogyny-to-big.html
“What ensues, according the film’s trailer, is alcohol-fueled misogynistic mayhem. Max has sex with several women, including, to his smug satisfaction, a dwarf.”
See? That is the clever banker ruse.
Have women such as Priscilla fund and promote it, while others protest it, enriching the bankers as marriage is destroyed and the state is grown.
http://www.stephenbaskerville.net/
“A Site about the Divorce Regime, Family Court Corruption,
and Government’s War on Fathers”
“The divorce regime is the most totalitarian institution ever to arise in the United States. Its operatives in the family courts and the social service agencies recognize no private sphere of life. “The power of family court judges is almost unlimited,” according to Judge Robert Page of the New Jersey family court. “Social workers are perceived to have nearly unlimited power,” a San Diego Grand Jury concludes. “Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Total immunity [enjoyed by social workers] is absolute power.”
The divorce regime is responsible for much more than “ugly divorces,” “nasty custody battles,” and other clichés. It is the most serious perpetrator of human and constitutional rights violations in America today. Because it strikes the most basic institution of any civilization – the family – the divorce regime is a threat not only to social order but to civil freedom. It is also almost completely unopposed. No political party and no politicians question it. No journalists investigate it in any depth. A few attorneys have spoken out, but they are eventually suspended or disbarred. Some academics have written about it, but they soon stop. No human rights or civil liberties groups challenge it, and some positively support it. Very few “pro-family” lobbies question it. This is because the divorce regime operates through money, political power, and fear.” — http://www.stephenbaskerville.net/
–http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1220628/board/thread/148314040
Have you seen/read END THE FED by Ron Paul? “Everyone must read this book–Congressmen and college students, Democrats and Republicans–all Americans.”
–Vince Vaughn
When you think about it, Tucker Max was the Fed’s ultimate creation–a soulless, debased douchebag:
“My name is Tucker Max, and I am an *beep*
Think about it–Tucker’s motto @ http://tuckermax.com could be the Fed’s motto:
“I get excessively drunk via inflating the currency at inappropriate times, disregard social norms (funding feminism/debauchery & debasement of the family/currency/culture/tucker max(educated at the Fed’s University of Chicago’s School of Economics (school of freakanomics) and Duke scholarship)), indulge every whim/war, ignore the consequences of my actions/bubbles/bailouts, fund idiots and posers and tucker-max-like CEOs, sleep with more women than is safe or reasonable/luring them with fiat currency & a fiat-funded bus, and just generally act like a raging darko/douchebag/dickhead.”
What do you think of Ron Paul’s new book–End the Fed?
End the Fed
Review for End The Fed
“Rarely has a single book not only challenged, but decisively changed my mind. “
–Arlo Guthrie
“Everyone must read this book–Congressmen and college students, Democrats and Republicans–all Americans.”
–Vince Vaughn
Vince Vaughn is a far, far better actor/director/writer than Tucker Max, so it makes sense that Tucker and his jealous friends at the Fed detest Arlo Guthrie and Vince Vaughan as well as art, film, and literature.
The book has much better reviews and is far-higher ranked than Tucker’s douchey books/film/trailer–Five solid stars!
Why do you donnie darko douchos/cbs haterz hate on art, the Constitution, morality, goodness, sound money, peace, prosperity, love, the family, kindness, and Ron Paul so much?
And like the Fed, tucker privatizes all the profits of his private jet while sharing all the risk with his volunteer employees, who work for free.
“Feminism which espoused “women’s rights” actually has driven femininity underground, torn the sexes asunder, and stripped woman of recognition for being wives and mothers, roles essential to their own fulfillment, to men, and to children and society.” –http://www.savethemales.ca/
– http://www.amazon.com/Save-Males-Matter-Women-Should/dp/1400065798
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You’re overreaching. The research doesn’t find that overestimation itself creates attraction.
[heartiste: sometimes, as a reader, you’ve gotta put the effort in to connect dot A to dot B. since it is harder for men to get sex than it is for women, men who manage to reproduce more are likely eliciting more intense attraction from women than are men who don’t reproduce as much (prior to the era of widespread contraceptives, that is). ERGO, since men who overestimate their own self-worth and women’s attraction for them have passed on their genes in greater numbers, it stands to reason that overconfidence and overestimation are themselves attractive components of the desirable man.]
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And, today, this from Cracked magazine, of all publications…
“5 Insignificant Things That Determine Who You Have Sex With,” by Kathy Benjamin & Paul K Pickett, Cracked, 31 Jan 2012
http://www.cracked.com/article_19663_5-insignificant-things-that-determine-who-you-have-sex-with.html
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I still don’t understand
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Fortune favors the bold.
Apparently so does pussy.
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Birtches be stupid like that… won’t notice the difference until they’re whining “Where are all the good men?”
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Just violate social nicities and cuss a lot, that’ll be close enough… Douchebag for women who don’t know any better works. Fake it ’til you make it (all over her face).
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Here too for Douchebag 101… women go for that (and feel bad about it later). Pay attention.
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Whenever a woman comes out with that line the instant response should be “men display, women choose! So collectively women get the men they deserve”. This should become as natural as breathing.
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Solid post. For a site that puts so much stock in biological determinism, though, you guys sure cite a lot of studies that sample only western university students. Wouldn’t get to me it you didn’t consistently extend their findings to universal maxims. Don’t let it cramp your overconfidence, though.
[heartiste: yes, many of us are familiar with the WEIRD complaint. i’ve said it before: while there are universals in attractiveness standards and attraction triggers, there is likely some difference in preference along broad racial lines. if you’re a white guy focusing solely on black chicks for instance, that’s something you’d want to take into consideration. but the differences aren’t large. the core concepts are valid across race.
and if your complaint is that WEIRD leaves out older women… well, that’s a feature not a bug.]
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“It turns out “no” actually means “keep trying, and you increase your odds of getting between my legs”.”
So, then, what do you actually say when you really, truly mean “NO?”
– I have a penis?
– I have a gun?
– SECURITY!!!!!?
– Will you marry me? Let’s go meet my mother!?
[heartiste: i know you’re a femcunt troll, but i’ll answer your question anyway because i am a man of magnanimous heart. don’t put too much stock in her words. listen closely to her tone of voice and especially pay attention to her body language. those are the dead giveaways.]
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Heartiste is being too pc there. She can completely mean it with all the attendant bad body language but if the guy calls her for being for instance shallow, he can effectively reverse the frame and then her attitude and body language.
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Ala Last Minute Resistance freezeout.
She says no? Just play cool and take the mood away from her (blow out the candles, etc.) and pull out the cards.
Make it seem as though she is taking away all the fun without actually saying so.
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Interestingly, according to Roosh in cases where “no means no,” the word she’ll use is “stop.”
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“Helicopter meatspin!”
I think Shawn White just threw one of those at the X-games.
“Ask not for whom the douchebag smirks; he smirks for thee.”
Epic.
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Always be shocked by rejection. The amount it doesn’t surprise you, you’re finished.
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the moment
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That seems slightly at odds with outcome independence. It’s hard to be “shocked” by rejection without also being crushed by it.
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yeah yeah. jsut be cocky asshole. Romney now gets this and Leroy Gingrich is a crying pussy who can suck it.
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Yeah, I’m on board with ch’s overestimation advice, but so is Gingrich, which means “the race will go on until June or July, unless Romney drops out.” Lord help us all.
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moderate my dick fucking cocksucker
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I’m going to a club show – one of my liked artists is DJing – in two weeks or so. A girl I mentioned this to pretty much invited herself along. I have no problem with this, I’m not paying her ticket anyways. She’s a 7-8 in my book.
So my question is: At a crowded, noisy-as-fuck venue, how do I best make a move? Chatting will be hard. Do I just tap her on the shoulder and go in for a grab/kiss? Do I pull her out of the crowd first? Advice?
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catch her outside. ask yourself: what would roosh do?
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Logistics! Logistics! Logistics! You need to have close physical proximity so make sure you’re sitting/standing next to her. If there’s a bannister, you’re both standing, and the place is packed, have her stand in front of you and you put an arm around her to hold onto the railing so people can’t cut between you. You’re almost spooning if you’re standing, like really cramped and close. Works perfect for sold-out concerts. If sitting, put the chairs next to each other and try not to have a big gap between them. You should be able to lean over a bit and talk in each others ear without feeling like you’ll fall over.
Once you’ve got close physical proximity you’ll need to escalate verbally. Start with people, then relationships, then sex. And in that order. Combine this verbal escalation with physical escalation. Light touching of your arms, then hips/legs, and eventually talking in each others ears. Pull back and BAM! make-out. To be honest with good physical escalation you can omit verbal escalation completely.
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The author of the study is pretty cute:
http://www.carinp.com/
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Hot shit.
No wonder her conclusions are twisted. Keeping betas and their tepid spooge at a safe distance is necessary when you carry precious high-quality eggs.
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of course — she studied under david buss.
check out his alumni: http://homepage.psy.utexas.edu/homepage/Group/BussLAB/
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She’s hot!
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at first glance, she looks okay, but when you look more closely through the unintentional fgas you notice the details, like her waist to hip ratio being suboptimal, and her fatty arms. in 5 years she will be a full-on beached whale femcunt if she doesn’t take care of herself. also she looks to have a big of a manjaw.
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Her weight fluctuates too much.
Pump and dump.
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I need some advice, basically I’m a bi guy, I’m quite good looking and fit and don’t act like a pussy (I don’t want to say I act alpha) and I do pretty well with girls, but I really want a girl who will know I’m bi. The problem is I told the last girl I was seeing and she acted as if she didn’t believe me and then the whole thing went sour. Is it possible to have a girl know this and have her still like you or even join in your fantasies? I don’t know if it’s possible but I want a girl who’ll be into it and even join me…
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Yet another county reports in, who can’t tell arse from quim. 🙄
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i don’t have any luck with this bullshit. but im a freak though
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That’s the problem… bitchez want to to be “different” and “edgy” the same way everyother “bad” guy in the suburbs that gets ’em wet it; anyone who really is badass and not a poser either doesn’t register or is too scary for ’em.
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Off-topic, but a tribute to our fightin’ folk… but not how we’re running our affairs.
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@Morpho
Bah, she’s already 31. She just looks cute because the picture has such a low resolution. She had her ride on the carousel and now she’s done. The next picture you see of her will be with half a dozen cats.
[heartiste: she’s cute, and if she plays her cards right she can squeeze another five years of sexual relevance out of her life. but the downslope begins in earnest right around the early-mid 30s for thin, attractive women. for fat or otherwise unhealthy women (think pig-faced proles), the downslope begins by the mid-20s.]
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Exactly. 31 and sloppy seconds. Her same age boyfriend is dumb.
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Great point about age in here. I think the girl is objectively hot, and that she has maintained her looks past 30 is to her credit. But Heartiste’s point is the big one for me, and why I overvalue a girl’s youth: an 8 at 24 will most likely provide 10 years or more of high quality pussy. A 9 at 31? 5 years max. If you’re looking for LTR or marriage, go young. To the point of ridiculousness.
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“but the downslope begins in earnest right around the early-mid 30s for thin, attractive women.”
you’re getting old, CH. the hottest girls are 17-20 and all of my single friends would prefer a teenager to a 30-year-old. the downslope begins around early-mid twenties …so there is a huge difference between a 20 and a 30 y.o. Mid thirties are the upper limit, actually. For having babies …
[heartiste: again, you demonstrate your problems with reading comprehension. nowhere did i say that an early 30s woman was as attractive as her 18 year old self. you read that into my comment because it satisfied your need to bloviate like a stupid contrarian on this blog.
as for the downslope, again, reread my comment. i wrote that it begins *in earnest* by the early to mid-30s. i did not write, as you are claiming, that there is *no* decline until a woman’s 30s. in fact, there are plenty of posts on this blog making the observation that for most women, the decline begins by the mid 20s. it begins slowly, but nevertheless begins it does.
are you too dumb to get this, do you not understand the nuance of adverbial qualification, or are you simply trolling? either way, you look like an idiot when you write shit like this, so as i advised you previously, seriously consider refraining from commenting once in a while to spare your dignity.]
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i didn’t understand the nuance of adverbial qualification.
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oh, i see … from the dictionary: in earnest – occurring to a greater extent or more intensely than before. *blush* so this really was a stupid comment. but i learn new words every day here …
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I’d do her.
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Alright I’ve been out of the gaming scene for a while because I was ignorant enough to drink the white-knighting pedestalizing church kool-aid that according to so many of those charlatan douchbags was the way to find a “good girl.” OF course, just like any other girl it did not work on them because they’re all the same. In fact, they all tingled up over the new not-yet-Christian, or just “Christian” experienced bad boys (read alpha), and immediately flocked to them. Fortunately, the cognitive dissonance of this led me to finally take the red pill and ditch the cultic churchian nonsense and finally see the Western world for what it is.
Anyway, to make a long story less long, before this, while in my early twenties, I was picking up some alpha traits just by emulating the guys around me, and working out quite well for the short-term. Then I foolishly betaize myself and unfortunately got it so thoroughly engrained in my being, it feels unnatural acting alpha though I still got it deep down. It’s just really rusty and inconsistent.
So, there’s this girl at work I’m interested in and I already got her number a couple days ago. I first talked to her Weds. just to break the ice and convey my interest albeit subtlely, but I waited four days, til Sun, to talk to her again and get her number. Spacing out the intervals of contact so she’ll anticipate and be receptive. Check. Unfortunately, on Mon. I saw her and flirted a bit, and though she smiled at me briefly at the end, most of the time she looked down averting my gaze and her replies were somewhat quick and abrupt, though not unkind.
I’m not sure what to make of it. Maybe she just wants to keep this discreet, low-profile, or she’s just shy, or she’s giving a “Slow down, tiger,” hint. I don’t know but I’m thinking instead of waiting only three days from Sun to call and tell her where and when we’re going out, Wed, I should now wait til Thurs just to extend the anticipation a little further.
What are y’all’s thoughts on it? I appreciate any advice.
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Read the 16 Commandments of Poon. One of the commandments is always keep two in the kitty. You’re thinking way too much because you’re only working one prospect at a time. You should have a minimum of three hot irons working at once. When you have that going you’ll notice that you won’t be so calculating and you’ll just roll with it which will naturally exude an alpha vibe. There could be a million reasons these chick isn’t warming to you and one of those could be a subconscious needy vibe you’re putting off. Read Roosvh’s column on leads. He says “show me how many numbers you’re working and I’ll tell you how many notches you’re going to get.”
You should have gotten the chick’s number and then went out that night and tried to get more. Working one number at a time is a futile endeavor. That’s the big mistake your making.
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You’ve already thought too much about it. Flirt with her and make a move. Not because you care about the outcome but for practice. Meanwhile start hitting on every girl you encounter.
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You need some advice, Andrew? Go back to church.
You were just so fed up with all the “charlatan douchbags” [sic] there that you had to flee to … the seduction community? The very name “seduction community” — not to mention the try-hard monikers they come up for themselves, “Style,” “Mystery,” and even insufferable fratboy nicks like “Roosh” — redefines the term “charlatan douchebag.”
Maybe you are destined to be attracted to charlatanism itself. If it’s not the one kind, it’s the other kind. You are a puppy who needs to be led.
If your church is bloated with feminist lies, take charge and lead it out of the morass. Cowards flee.
There is nothing Christian about that superficial boy-scout noise you cite as reasons for leaving the church. Theirs are easily adopted personae that weak people grasp in substitution for true metanoia. Congratulations, you are not so weak that you could stand for the hopeless rigidity of good-intentioned but theologically misguided preachers. “Don’t dance, don’t drink, don’t fuck dogstyle!” Surface prohibitions like these, while maybe coherent first steps in a larger program, do nothing but sour skeptics on the entire concept of guidance. You break out of these petty rules, and you think you can break out of the very idea of rules altogether. This is how youth devours itself.
Your new masters tell you that you’ll have a fun couple of years, and that’s the best anyone can hope for. Heartiste put it in a comment above, “seduction is the closest thing we have to immortality.” It is true in a certain context — you will have a couple years of stories — but it is no plan for life. That kind of Epicurean sophistry forecloses you from the true immortalities, of art, of name, of progeny, of soul. Read Plato’s Symposium for half a clue of what I’m getting at.
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About your smaller flirting problem, Andrew: “Spacing out the intervals of contact so she’ll anticipate and be receptive. Check.”
Throw away the checklist. Or at least plan for its obsolescence. You need to develop your improvising skills within the broad contours of game. Playing aloof is not the same as being aloof. Dan Fletcher’s comment is spot on, stop working the problem so strenuously. “Strenuous” is opposite of aloof. Tao of Steve: Be without desire.
And along the theme of this blog post: be confident. You can play confident or you can be confident, and roleplay will get you far, maybe even far enough, considering the ease with which girls open their slots in our culture.
But playing confident is not the same as being confident. If you really don’t know you are the best thing to happen to this chick all day, or all week, or all her life, then go back to the drawing board and accomplish something. If you are without achievement, you do not understand the sensation of strutting among lesser beings as the master of all you survey. Maybe that accomplishment is totally unrelated, like being the champion Magic cards player from the greater tri-county region. But it is the experience of being on top that allows confidence to transfer.
Which comes full circle to the “Overestimation Is the Twin Brother of Confidence” thesis. The over- part of overestimation and overconfidence is only useful to prime a dry pump. It helps newbies fake it till they make it, an important step along the journey. But at the highest levels of anything, be it olympic sports or free enterprise or game, an exact estimation of your abilities and a precise level of confidence (neither over nor under) allows a man’s intentions to become results. Any bleacher creature can scream at A Rod that he “can hit better,” but only one of them steps up to the plate. Only one of them knows the feeling of hitting it out of the park when it counts.
Overestimation only works with people who are too dumb to estimate. Granted, plenty of hood rats and trailer tramps lack the ability to size up a man in full. If you’re easily satisfied by that level of score, then grow your beard and lie to the skanks that you are “The Most Interesting Man in The World.” The rest of us have the preternatural serenity which attends the knowledge that we can back our shit up.
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high testosterone =
higher semen production /
higher confidence =
more approaches, more big scores
than
low testosterone =
lower semen production /
lower confidence =
fewer approaches, lower targets, fewer scores
sexual overperception bias is the emotional analogue of higher semen production (i.e. more waste).
beta overperception = weak-kneed romanticism, bedraggled desperation
alpha overperception = acting with extreme prejudice, unconcern, forcing frames
if your locus of control is high, i.e. skewed in your favor though objectively false, compliance will work in your favor.
if your locus of control is low, i.e. skewed against you though objectively true, you present no compliance test for others to follow.
more T(esto) = more S(emen) = more C(onfidence) = more P(oon)
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These dudes say the same thing (although it’s an ad for their Testosterone booster after about 15min) so check it out… good info (gets into Alpha-ness) along the way, though.
http://www.livingresearchinstitute.com/men/4dangerspj/index.html
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A friend of a friend when we were all teens.
Goofy guy, very awkward, Indian, thick accent, beta-acting, pussy, nerdy.
But no matter what happened when we saw or interacted with a woman, his response would be, “She wants me.”
Being guys, we teased him a shitload about it, given his station in life. But he kept saying, with total belief, “She wants me.”
Fast forward: at 21, this guy had multiple 8+ women knocked up by him. Blond white women, not arranged marriage b.s.
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And when you’re old and gray, and there are no more blonde White women for your grandsons, you can chuckle again and wax poetic in recalling your friend of a friend’s derring-do, which you so valiantly dissuaded by teasing.
Chump.
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Hey Heartiste,
OT, but look at this post…..
http://sdaedalus.wordpress.com/2012/01/29/peggy-cummins-irelands-unacknowledged-helen-mirren/
Surprising how masculinized women’s faces have become- what is causing such a rapid change, this diminishing sexual dimorphism among humans?
[heartiste: good question. i’ve noticed it. theories:
– media types are choosing masculine women for their ad campaigns and modeling gigs.
– environmental insults like flouride, plastics or a sugary, high carb diet are causing reduced sexual dimorphism.
– genetic change from humans in the first world becoming more domesticated (literally bred into androgynes).]
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The ravages of age never invoked more depression… sigh… what doll she was back in the day.
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Heartiste, yes, this is true, but sexual harassment lawsuits have a way of punishing inner game. This is why you’ll see that most men in white collar environments may as well be neutered, and why most women in the same places are seething with unfulfilled fantasies.
How does a guy balance inner game with the typical modern workplace? This is a post I’d really like to see.
[heartiste: it’s too risky. this is why i counsel avoiding work hookups altogether, despite the ease of meeting women there. the workplace is a minefield for men, and men should treat it as the quarantine zone it is.]
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Even when you “win” in a workplace hookup, you lose overall. Take it from one who knows.
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Stories?
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Step 1. Game the girls in HR. They will squash any negative things said about you.
Step 2. Take it outside of work. What you do on your own time is your own time.
Step 3. Make sure you keep all her incriminating emails and sexting.
[heartiste: good advice. if you *are* going to dip the pen in the company ink, holding onto all her racy emails and sexts is job 1. and don’t, under any circumstance, reply to her emails or texts. let them pile up one way only. if she bitches you out, her trail of self-incrimination will let you off the hook.]
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Pascal’s equation of poon.
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Err, rather, Pascal’s Wager of Poon
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this is the best post in a long time.
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Overconfidence, overestimation… Better too much, than too little, as I always say.
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“assume attraction”
“what you feel, she feels”
“whoever’s reality is stronger wins”
The fact that you expect her to be attracted is what MAKES her attracted.
An older PUA way of thinking was you have to wait for indicators of interest to know she’s attracted so you can escalate. But the way we look at it now, you escalating is what creates those indicators of interest. The fact that you’re confident enough to make a move and expect a positive response is why you get a positive response.
Of course to avoid being accused of or committing rape you have to learn social calibration, and cultivate the skill of deep self-analysis to he able to fine tune this (despite PUA haters’ ignorant belief that we’re delusional and blind to any faults, we just understand that approaching a girl isn’t the time to be analyzing yourself). Plus you need to learn what Last Minute Resistance is, how to deal with it, how to avoid triggering her Anti-Slut Defense, and how to avoid Buyer’s Remorse.
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Douchebaggery: Build it and they will come (cum, too). Arousal is all… turn-on/annoyed, eventually she’ll feel attracted (just keep on).
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Yes.
The mere act of approaching a women signals confidence and can induce tingles.
Waiting for a women to give you IOIs is passive and weak. Men must be aggressive and initiate.
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Envy Alert: Married men working hard to enforce laws against grinding:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/high-school-bans-grinding-763412
Meanwhile, at least the good thing about the Florida results is that the official big government moralist, Santorum, isn’t doing well. Gingrich is burying Santorum and even getting more of the married female vote.
Of course, the hot young female vote is for Ron Paul. Those are the rallies you want to hang out at.
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“If you have to pass a law, it’s already too late.” – attributed to Marcus Aurelius (?)
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The Ron Paul Girl is a Star article features the emotive one who stood behind him on the podium last night in Nevada:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/gavon/the-ron-paul-girl-is-a-star
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Telltale, yet painfully obvious, sign of our betasized culture… average cute miss makes a few coquettish faces behind mid-level cult celebrity politician and gets her fifteen minutes.
Meh.
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Great post. I smile with pleasure when I read the truth.
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I need some advice, basically I’m a bi guy
Neg her saying is more cute than her
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TYPO
Ngeg her by saying her brother is more cute than her
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Another thing to consider is that a confident guy, or someone who practices game, sees potential the average guy doesn’t.
We’ll approach girls 100% cold, like they don’t even know we exist, until we stop them and say hello. A newbie PUA will stop them all and cross his fingers. But an advanced one will pick specific targets where his RAS notices “she’s not wearing a wedding ring, she’s smiling and in a good mood, she’s wearing an item of clothing thats really easy to tease her about, an event just happened that would be an easy opener, her fat friend went to the bathroom and her other friend is on the prowl and won’t cockblock, and the bouncer about to pass by knows me and will shake my hand if I give him a nod giving me social proof, she’s with a super beta looking male friend who will be easy to befriend and out-alpha, i just got a sweet haircut and I’m wearing my favorite shirt, and on top of it all she’s gorgeous and totally my type so I’m going to be totally into her and it’ll be easy to flirt because I want to bone her …….OF COURSE she’ll love me!”
If that girl just saw a photo of me or just met me in a neutral quiet environment for a minute, she might not mark me down as attractive. But as all those external factors fall into play (which at the time I’m confident they likely will because of my experience in these situations) she won’t be judging me just based on just my looks or a short mundane interaction but on my alpha status, social proof, wit, humor, ability to tease and spike her emotions, all backed up with the rock solid confidence of experience expecting it to go well. By the end of it I know I’ll be way more attractive to her than if she just looked at my face/body as she walked by, so I’ll just assume from the start that she’s going to love me.
This is an intricate fluid form of “situational confidence”. A static simple form would be “I’m a bartender and at my bar it’s easy for me to get laid!” (meanwhile at other bars or in the mall during the day the girls don’t notice him because he doesn’t have the same confidence he does in his own bar because he doesn’t have all the external factors at this new bar that he does at his bar). Or “I’m rich and girls love rich guys!” (meanwhile if he loses his money or is in social circles with people who have more money than him or don’t put value on money (hippies lol), girls don’t notice him because he doesn’t have the same external factors (bling) that he did when he had money and was in an environment that valued it).
The fluid form of this is boiled down to “a lot of external things that work in my favor are involved in this situation so I expect her to be attracted to me”. The flip side like in the examples above though, is that when those factors aren’t there the PUA ends up not approaching and you end up with the guys who plateau making excuses like “oh I won’t approach till she’s off the phone” or “I can’t just escalate her friends are right there” or “oh man if only I had done my hair today I look like a slob otherwise I would totally get her” or “as soon as I get that raise at work” or “as soon as I get my 6-pack back”.
And you can get laid that way. You can totally function and have success with women, even really good success. A lot of naturals are this way, having favorite bars, lucky t-shirts, specific haircuts, making sure they work out, getting high paying jobs, etc. and when the external factors they place value on are THERE, they absolutely kill it. But they’re dependent on those external factors being there. It’s no different than someone who has to get drunk to have fun (instead of simply inherently having fun all the time) or has a mansion and expensive clothes but HAS to have a Ferrrari to feel complete and to consider himself finally a success (instead of simply feeling successfu and complete all the time). A consumer-based society LOVES those guys. The movie Fight Club was about breaking free of that stuff and stripping a man down to his core to base his value on.
A really advanced PUA passes thru that and learns that his value comes from his core, it’s internal. It’s not based on external factors like a nice shirt, whether the girl is single or not, whether she has cockblocky friends, whether he’s in a new environment where he’s a nobody (or even an enviro where he’s disliked), or whether he has money or a 6-pack. He returns to approaching everything like a newbie instead of waiting for the “perfect storm”, but this time around his value is internal and comes from his core so all those little factors needing to be there becomes irrellevant. He knows that stone cold straight up, he is high value enough to get the girl no matter what obstacles are present. It may not work out, but when he’s fully in that state he doesn’t really get shot down anymore. Some girls might not fuck him but he doesn’t get the “FUCK OFF!!!!” that the newbie and advanced PUA (outside of his comfort environment/situation) gets.
At first that state is fleeting, and a common way to get into that state is to do embarrassing shit (cause a scene, get blown out on purpose, etc) until your brain registers “oh ya, fuck it, there’s no pretending I’m smooth and suave now that that happened, I guess I’ll have to just rely on my core being enough!”. But over time the state stays with you longer and longer until ultimately it consumes you and you simply have full out internally base confidence at all times.
The average guy with no game and situational confidence at best, who thinks looks, money, etc matter to girls could be a good looking guy but will talk himself out of thinking the girl is interested because he doesn’t have money so how COULD she be? Or the bartender who’s in his own bar will talk himself out of it “if only she could see what a badass I am at my bar!”. These guys woildnt expect things to go well because their value comes from the wrong place.
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“Or the bartender who’s in his own bar will talk himself out of it”
Oops I mean who ISN’T in his own bar (where his value is).
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Good stuff.
No matter the setting people should always think you own the place. Good game should travel well.If you need to stack the deck with a bunch of sycophants to get laid whats the point.
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http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/008500.html
Testosterone Cuts Female Cooperation;
“Testosterone makes us overvalue our own opinions at the expense of cooperation….”
Opinionated and feminist spring to mind.
[heartiste: this could partially explain why women love overconfident, overestimating men: it’s a signal of high testosterone.]
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If you overestimate too much, and push too hard, women will consider you “creepy” – they’ll mock you to all their friends and your entire female social group will be off limits for fucking forever. That’s how females conspire to keep beta males sexless. And since most socializing/mating is done within coed social networks now, you basically have to let the women make the first move.
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Yes women stigmatize and ostracize with the word “creepy” but you give them too much credit in assuming they use the word objectively. The word is just an emotional tool and women even use it as a shit test.
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“Creepy” is the spanking new laser-guided missile of the shit-test armory.
The social stigma it carries is instant and heavy, yet the word is acceptable to spout casually, because as we all know, western society is half made up of violent psycho-men deserving of the “creepy” stamp.
There’s a chick in my class – a bona fide narcissistic bitch – who always tells tales of how “this really creepy guy was like totally stalking me” and carries pepper-spray in her purse. She has mentioned a dozen times that “She attracts SO MANY creepers!”.
It’s clear that her reasons for all of the above is to project herself as so desirable it’s dangerous for her to simply go outside, as hordes of uncontrollably turned-on men will converge on her like a horde of zombies.
Gentlemen, be wary: “That’s/You’re Creepy” usually means “Let’s see if you can take this!”.
[heartiste: good answer to a woman bragging like that: “so you’re saying you only attract losers? interesting.”]
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Women are catty and devious. The damage is done behind your back and there’s no getting past it. When they mock you as this you have no recourse. It’s not done to your face.
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That’s where social calibration comes in. Guess how you get that: go out and talk to girls lol
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Not true at all. You just have to be willing to follow through and not back down with the verbal teasing just because the women are acting offended.
They’ll act offended when people are watching, but given the opportunity, they’ll give it up.
I have a male friend whose mouth is just freakin’ dirty. He is said to be “always talking about his big dick”, but the truth is that he or others bring it up from time to time but the girls never stop thinking about it. I wing him sometimes and do the blushing thing when he laughs about the time I accidentally touched it over his jeans when we were having a conversation. I put my hand on his leg at a point where it should have been perfectly safe, but then something moved. I recoiled, frightened.
Anyway, every girl we’ve told this story eventually drops the panties. Hell, every girl I’ve told that story when he wasn’t around, has opened her legs for him or offered to.
You just can’t go by what women say in a social setting. Unless it would be very inappropriate for business reasons or something, be nasty. I mean be filthy disgusting nasty and maybe even a smidge dark. Just be playful about it, don’t focus on only one girl, and butterfly, get distracted with some man topic, or leave before they feel you’re investing too much out of desperation.
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Youre talking about black people, where men are expected to want to fuck everything that moves. I’m talking about skinny white girls. COmpletely different social environment.
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Geez, the race is even more depraved than I thought, when even the women are out ‘muh-dik’ing on the wing for the ‘bruthas’ who won’t marry them.
Feh.
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If you mean Russians, then yeah most others do think they’re pretty depraved.
The point is however, that behaving like a girl or asexual is not going to get a guy laid.
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My friend, who we nickname “Long Stroke”, is Russian, and in no way a “wigger”.
He has two girlfriends. One is a little hefty but not gone too far. One is so skinny she gets picked on by anorexics for being anorexic. The former is of Polish ancestry I think, and the other is very Russian.
All of the girls jumping his cock on the sly when their friends aren’t there to judge them are some kind of European.
The whole world isn’t neutered.
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“Powerful people think they are taller than they really are, new study finds”
http://news.wustl.edu/news/Pages/23222.aspx
Read this article and thought you might find it somewhat relevant.
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What a bunch of hypocrites! Shame doesn’t work, but let’s shame people into not shaming.
The fact that they are reacting this strongly shows everyone that these ads DO work. What they want is for everyone to coddle them and tell them it isn’t their fault, don’t matter what they do.
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They may work to get people motivated to lose weight. The problem is that they’re being herded towards a $olution that will do little to improve their health, but a lot to fill the pockets of the people pushing industrial phood, cosmetic surgery, and a colorless, genderless herd of medicated drones.
I’d be happy to see anti obesity ads that weren’t sponsored by pancreatic cancer, liver failure, and more relevant to children who are going to get dope instead of real help, drug induced suicide.
I don’t trust the shady mechanics who broke my car to fix it.
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‘A man who gives a good account of himself is probably lying, since any life when viewed from the inside is simply a series of defeats.’ –George Orwell
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I’ve always had an attitude with girls that serves me well:
Act as if anything and everything she does or says is a sign that she likes you.
Call it Pepe Le Pew game, but it works. More often that not, it becomes reality. Glad to see this being scientifically proven. It’s fun too.
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Related, from Heartiste’s “Hall of Fame” nominated writer. The hard limits of overconfidence, i.e., the narcissism of losers:
http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/10/marc_marons_mid-life_crisis.html
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From personal experience, if at any point I’m lacking in confidence, pre-occupied or otherwise tired, regardless of how I’m dressed, how I walk or how I may talk I never get as far as if my inner and outer game are aligned.
You can fake it, if you believe it.
If you’re over-thinking something, it will be sub-communicated.
Additionally ignorance is often bliss. Times where I’ve been completely not actively gaming a girl are the times when suddenly she takes interest. If I become overly conscious of her IOI’s and lose the lead mentally, it goes no where.
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