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The Evisceration Of Penelope Trunk

February 1, 2012 by CH

You say evisceration, I say loving ministration.

Ah, Penelope Trunk. For some reason, she gives fellow aspie and open borders ivory tower bubbleboys chubbies, who can’t stop linking to her blog, (comments by “Dave” and “Anotherphil” are illuminating). But Chateau Heartiste called this broad out for the psycho, man-hating bitch she really is a long time ago. And how that judgment has been vindicated. Prescient? Nope. Just open-eyed observers of the human condition, coupled with a smattering of experience with these types of whipsaw women.

The latest Penelope Cunk dramafest comes courtesy of a post on her blog where she displays her wrinkled slate-flat cougar ass and her wretched uncaged id on national internet, complete with bruise she alleges was from her husband, who got sick and tired of her “look at me!” provocations and pushed her into a bedpost out of frustration.

The Farmer told me that he will not beat me up any more if I do not make him stay up late talking to me.

If you asked him why he is still being violent to me, he would tell you that I’m impossible to live with. That I never stop talking. That I never leave him alone. How he can’t get any peace and quiet in his own house. That’s what he’d tell you.

Translation: Penelope Trunk berates, nags, pesters, humiliates, shrieks and wails at her husband at ungodly hours of the night and throughout the day, and he responds, in piques of frustration abetted by his normal male propensity to avoid extended verbal fights with no ending or solution in sight, by physically stifling her to make the unbearable shrew torrent stop.

What feminists either don’t understand or don’t wish to understand is that a nontrivial amount of physical domestic abuse is in response to non-physical provocation. For every action there is a reaction. Women abuse men psychologically because that is where their strength lies, and fortunately for them the marks made by psychological abuse are less photogenic than the marks made by bedposts. So women, in addition to being the beneficiaries of the ancient biological force that subconsciously deems the female of the sex a more valuable commodity than the male, get to enjoy the sympathy of the bovine crowd when they post jpegs of their thigh bruises.

These volatile domestic scenarios are almost never one way streets. Look at Rihanna. Chris Brown is a violent thug, but Rihanna could have easily avoided his flying fists of fury had she just stayed the fuck away from him. And yet, she couldn’t do that. She *still* can’t do that, in fact, and in returning to him to shower him with her love rewards his shitty behavior. Penelope Trunk does something similar with her Farmer hubby, but takes it a step further; she instigates his flashes of anger and desperation purposefully to get a rise out of him, so that she can avoid feeling abandoned. Or whatever the fuck it is she missed out on from daddy.

When guys talk about crazy bitches to stay the fuck away from, Penelope Trunk is Exhibit A.

Now don’t get me wrong. These kinds of women have some use: they are great in bed. Gung-ho master class fucktoys who’ll take it up the poop chute and lick you clean if it means you’ll gaze deeply into her eyes just a little longer. But that’s where it ends. Save your love and commitment for the relatively sane chicks. You give your heart to a drama queen and attention whore like Penelope Trunk and you are asking for a world of emotional torment if you don’t know anything about the proper handling and care of such spaztastic specimens. Because when the screaming and crying and berating don’t work, she’ll step it up to openly flirting with other men in front of you, and then to cheating and leaving clues for you to find out about it, and finally to resorting to insane outbursts to get her hamster fix.

And you will never experience such roided up, coked up, caffeinated hamsters in your life. These critters are unstoppable.

My edumacated guess is that Penelope Trunk’s husband is a beta male at heart who has no clue about women, and even less clue about women like Trunk. He was smitten by her willingness to screw early and often, and her slender proportions, while well past prime attractiveness, compared favorably to the lumbering middle-aged cows on his horizon and put the boner in his pants for the first time in years. Being a man of little breadth of experience with women and zero game or state control, he was easy prey for Trunk’s urbane sadomasochism. She takes advantage of his rustic beta ignorance and naivete and pushes him to the brink as often as she can get away with it, while enjoying the thrill of refueling her ostentatious craving for coerced, theatrical displays of love and a relationship perpetually teetering on the precipice of doom. He, being a salt of the earth kinda guy, has no idea what he got himself into, and his instinct to control an out of control situation impels him to lean on the one defensive maneuver that worked in the past and which rises naturally from the contours of his male brain: his showstopper physical will to power. Of course, the solution is always temporary, and the cycle repeats. Which is exactly how she wants it. And she gets it.

I love a good pile-on as much as the next sadist, so here’s an ego shredding, soul killing, demonic diagnosis worthy of a Chateau Hall of Fame nomination, from a naughty little bastard called The Last Psychiatrist.

Penelope Trunk has a history of sexual abuse by her father.  She has a pattern of intense, unstable relationships; a history of self-cutting, bulimia; is emotionally labile and reactive; and her primary defense mechanism is pretty obviously splitting, i.e. things are all good or they are all bad.

Trunk says she has Asperger’s, and maybe she does, but what I’ve described is “borderline personality disorder.”  BPD is not a description of behavior exactly, it is a description of an adaptive coping strategy.  In other words, people persist with BPD because it works. […]

Knock down fights and great make up sex is psychologically more fulfilling than a normal, calm, low-affect marriage.  Mind numbing jealousy is preferable to being 100% sure of their fidelity, to the point that it will actually be invented.  “Are you just looking for things to be upset about?”  The answer is yes. […]

Nothing is to be gained by saying her husband abuses her, which he does, but nothing is to be gained from saying that unless he’s listening.   She is abusing herself.  I’m not judging her, I’m not saying she is bad or that I don’t understand it, but she’s setting up, well, a pattern of intense, unstable relationships because she needs the intensity and will thus tolerate the unstability.  A relationship isn’t one sided, or bi-directional, it’s a dialectic.  They are very much in it together.

A worthy flaying. Borderline personality disorder is the scientific term for attention whoring, although not all attention whores are BPD victims. Every woman has the seed of an attention whore in her, as it is the caprice of their sex, but some women, women like Trunk, through a combination of genetic enhanced femaleness and environmental instability during the formative years, become raging monsters of insatiable egos with no self-awareness or cultivated sense of modesty.

And here’s the catch. What the Last Psychiatrist describes as a deranged personality imperfection is just the normal female psychology amped up to unsustainable levels of estrogenic insanity. Women really do like a little — or a lot, for some women — uncertainty in their relationships. This is a scientifically as well as observationally settled fact. It is the natural female inclination to swoon and tingle for men who offer doses of delightful discomfort. This inclination, it should be noted, is stronger in younger, prettier girls for whom the option to act out in this way without consequence is readily available.

The Last Psychiatrist has to know that this predilection for drama, affect and uncertainty is primarily a female affliction, and, in small manageable doses, is actually the normal state of emotional functioning for the majority of women. Hamster spinning wackos with advanced cases of BPD like Trunk are extreme manifestations of this innate female condition, much like power hungry sociopaths are the extreme manifestation of the innate male predisposition to maximize status. TLP is right to highlight Trunk’s disease of the id, but he should not be tempted to think that Trunk is a wholly alien representative of the female sex.

Trunk is, to put it mildly, a hyperfemale.

But, alas, the wall looms for hyperfemales as surely as it does for emotionally grounded women. The attention whoring that provoked so much reaction from men when she was younger elicits nothing but indifference at best and contemptuous pity at worst from men when she is older and uglier. TLP:

The thing is, BPD “works” when you are young, there are always people around to tolerate it.  Parents, boyfriend/girlfriend, employers, etc– and being pretty, which Trunk obviously is, helps a lot.  This doesn’t mean people are necessarily nice to her, or that she’s happy; only that  “crazy” behavior is more tolerable to other people when you are young.

The problem for her is she’s not getting any younger, and like it or not the only one who will put up with a 60 year old borderline is no one.  Except maybe the kids, which we will get back to.

Once women start experiencing the consequences of their flighty behavior from getting older and invisible to men, the smart ones among them adjust their expectations, emotional indulgences and demands accordingly. Penelope Trunk, thanks to the sycophantic chorus of her careerist fembot and scrap-begging mangina readers, will likely continue her coyote ugly act on into perpetuity, winding up alone and unloved by anyone but her imagination and bug-eyed omega commenter nerds desperate for human contact. If she hasn’t burned too many bridges and was effective at concealing her complicity in her personal calamities, then she may retain the love of her kids into dotage. That’s a big if. More likely, the kids will slowly realize what a loon she is, and will withdraw their love until they feel safe from entanglement in her manufactured crises.

There is an easy, convenient way to deal with BPD attention whores that won’t get you socially ostracized or locked up. If I had the ear of Trunk’s husband, I’d tell him this. Instilling a dab of dread — a phone call, say, from a location where she can hear the voices of laughing women in the background — would go a long way to satisfying the drama-feeding maw of Trunk’s vagina-shaped id. No blog-fodder bruises required. At the very least, such knowledge can give him more options in women, freeing him from his desperate, fearful clinging to a visually stimulating BPD headcase.

I’ve said it before. Game can save lives. This is not hyperbole. This is goddamned truth.

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  1. on February 1, 2012 at 3:49 pm Zorro

    No doubt here. Trunk is a fucking mentalcase. She’s so fucked in the head I don’t even care about her being a fembot. She’s beyond redemption. That photo of her naked ass with her bruise from her redneck boyfriend is a classic case of attention whoring.

    Fuck her, but not with my dick.

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  2. on February 1, 2012 at 3:57 pm A.B. Dada

    This post is great just so I have something to link to — it seems that Miss Trunk links make their way into my inbox with more and more frequency — always be very strong attitude women or really weak spineless gents.

    “My edumacated guess is that Penelope Trunk’s husband is a beta male at heart who has no clue about women, and even less clue about women like Trunk. He was smitten by her willingness to screw early and often, and her slender proportions, while well past prime attractiveness, compared favorably to the lumbering middle-aged cows on his horizon and put the boner in his pants for the first time in years.”

    QFT. QFAOT.

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  3. on February 1, 2012 at 4:01 pm Asshole wIth a Retarded German Accent

    The Last Psychiatrist has to know that this predilection for drama, affect and uncertainty is primarily a female affliction

    I wouldn’t bet on it. He wrote today that no man ever said “It’s complicated” to a woman, because she’d think he’s a wuss. Having tried that line myself and seen it work as advertised… TLP doesn’t know much about women.

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  4. on February 1, 2012 at 4:01 pm MarcTheEngineer

    Not to mention Trunk is herself a physical abuser… she has described on several occasions having to clean up broken vases/lamp/plates that she threw during arguments.

    Throwing a piece of glass so hard that it shatters all over the place during an argument is more than sufficient evidence to get a DV charge against your average Joe

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 7:02 am MrDamage

      “…more than sufficient evidence to get a DV charge against your average Joe”

      But not your average Jill.

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  5. on February 1, 2012 at 4:15 pm Roosh

    Did she need to include the view of her pancake ass to show a bruise on her leg? No, but the first comment says why she did it.

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  6. on February 1, 2012 at 4:15 pm Whitehall

    Do attention whores ever “evolve” into bag ladies?

    If not where do bag ladies come from, developmentally speaking?

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 1:41 am Anonymous

      Usually takes drugs/alcohol…

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      • on February 3, 2012 at 4:15 pm Whitehall

        Not so sure that’s the decay chain. I think women start as clutter freaks, the ones with their house stuffed with so much junk that one can’t walk around. They devolved into bag ladies when they can’t keep their lives together or their husbands have enough and kick them out on their own.

        Certainly juice and dope can facilitate devolution in male or female.

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  7. on February 1, 2012 at 4:32 pm M-Dot

    One note: TLP describes Trunk as Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD), not bipolar. While these are somewhat the same and overlap and are often misdiagnosed back and forth, they are different. BPD is psychological/coping, while bipolar is biological. Just wanted to clear that up for those that don’t click through. For one, BPDs cycle their mania and depression much more quickly than bipolars. I’m dealing with a BPD ex currently, and I can tell you they are much more dangerous/violent than bipolars in my experience. Here’s some more information: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/stop-walking-eggshells/201003/three-easy-ways-differentiate-bipolar-and-borderline-disorders

    Rollo also had a good post about BPDs not that long ago.

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 10:16 am Anton

      Good point. Dealing with actual BPDs makes one question CH’s assertion that they are simply “women” writ large (i.e. a “hyperfemale”). Give me a bipolar anytime….

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 1:45 pm Drib

      Is there much of a difference between a Histrionic Personality Disorder (HPD) and BPD? I know an HPD female quite well and they sem to be very similar.

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      • on February 3, 2012 at 6:53 pm anon@nowhere.com

        They are related since they are both Cluster B (dramatic) personality disorders, i.e. they are psychological rather than biological. BUT there are many differences between the two. A person can be both, or have minor BPD tendencies with high HPD or vice versa, including anywhere in between. Where you’re seeing the commonalities is probably that sufferers of both disorders display deliberate and persistent manipulative behavior.

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    • on February 10, 2012 at 10:14 pm senseiern

      My ex is bipolar. While we were together, about six months prior to our seperation, we were sitting in bed, watching Leno. She leaned over and said, “You know. I could kill you in your sleep.”

      From that day onward, I made sure she took her Ambien and was out before I went to sleep and I woke up before her. That went on for six months.

      Then, One night, she was in the computer room doing something. I got home from work late and laid down to relax. I was out in minutes.

      At 1am, I woke up to see her standing over me with a pair of scissors, ready to stab me. I rolled out of bed and dressed on my way down the stairs and out the door. By the time she got to the door, I was on my way down the street to stay the night at a hotel and figure out what to do.

      The next day, I got a simple apartment. After having enough of her bullshit, I found The Game and I haven’t looked back since.

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  8. on February 1, 2012 at 4:43 pm Phinn

    Men need to get their mind around the idea that, when it comes to women, there is no right or wrong. Right and wrong are concepts developed by men, for use in dealing with other men.

    Morals make it possible for men to cooperate with other men, to make deals with them, form alliances, do business, and avoid unnecessary conflicts with each other.

    With women, being “right” means nothing. Less than nothing. They don’t love you for being right, and they don’t reject you for being wrong. It just doesn’t matter.

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    • on February 1, 2012 at 8:10 pm GeishaKate

      @Phinn: “They don’t love you for being right, and they don’t reject you for being wrong. It just doesn’t matter.”

      This could be read as women have no standards, but what about the case of a woman unconditionally loving a man who deserves it. Can men distinguish between those two scenarios? Just personally curious.

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      • on February 2, 2012 at 11:20 am altius@fortius.com

        Women have standards, in a sense, in that they have preferences — male characteristics and behaviors that turn them on, and those that turn them off.

        But those features are not morality. In a system of morals, one approves of moral things and disapproves of immoral things.

        Women don’t work that way, at least not when choosing mates. Being right about something means nothing to them. In fact, showing them you are right, if you do so by showing a woman she is wrong, is an active turn-off. She’ll despise you for being right, or more accurately, despise you for showing her you’re right.

        There’s just no sense in ever saying that, when it comes to sexual acceptance or rejection, a woman “owes” you something (sex, loyalty, etc.), or did you wrong (cheated, lied, withheld, disrespected you, etc.), or broke some kind of rule. There are no rules with women.

        Women don’t unconditionally love men. The women who are devoted to their man don’t do so because he “deserves” it. A woman may be devoted to a man because he leads, is socially dominant, competitive with other men, provides economic security, has healthy genes and produces good offspring. If you exhibit these things, you will probably be highly attractive. That’s about all you can say about why women want men.

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      • on February 2, 2012 at 12:00 pm GeishaKate

        Why would you assume women don’t have morals? I could just as easily assume men don’t have scruples and say they’re too dumb to know any better/led by their genitals. But, I know that to be false. The fact that you haven’t encountered any moral women (people) doesn’t mean we don’t exist 🙂

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      • on February 2, 2012 at 3:44 pm Meyer

        Some women have (some) morals, if they were raised well and come from a good family and social structure. But we can’t rely on those morals, nor can we act as if a woman is the moral equivalent of a man.

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      • on February 2, 2012 at 4:25 pm Phinn

        What I am saying is that a woman’s attraction to a man has nothing to do with his being moral or immoral, or with his being right or wrong on some question of social behavior, especially with regard to his relationship with her. Attraction is deep, and morality is shallow.

        Let’s say there’s a moral rule against breaking promises. A woman breaks her promise to her man. The woman will not, under any circumstances, respond favorably to his pointing out to her that she is in the wrong. There will be ENDLESS justifications. He can be 100% unassailably correct. A generation of jurists can write whole encyclopedias explaining his correctness. But it will not increase her affection or attraction to him one bit. In fact, resorting to rational argumentation with a woman is usually perceived as a sign of weakness.

        Or, let’s reverse the situation — she thinks he broke a promise, and let’s say she’s correct. He can do the moral thing and admit fault and make amends. Fine, but his doing so has NOTHING to do with her continued devotion to him or her attraction to him. Depending on the context, it might benefit him to make amends, or it might diminish him in her eyes.

        All’s fair in love and war. (But I repeat myself.)

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      • on February 2, 2012 at 6:28 pm GeishaKate

        @Phinn: thanks for elaborating.

        @Meyer: “nor can we act as if a woman is the moral equivalent of a man”- I just don’t think I can accept this. I don’t see morality, unlike physical strength, as being a sex difference. To me, it depends on the individual.

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 3:54 am Anon

      It’s evolution, yo.
      There is no karma evolutionarily speaking, the machiavelian ruthless bastards have better odds at survival. Better learn to be one. Women will only love you for it.

      Gotta looove this fucking planet.

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 9:17 am Meyer

      “Men need to get their mind around the idea that, when it comes to women, there is no right or wrong.”

      Great point, Phinn. We also need to get our minds around the corollaries to this idea:

      1) Men need to be responsible for women’s behavior as well as our own. We need to monitor our daughters and sisters closely until they are married, and form alliances with their husbands to help them stay on the right track.

      2) There is NO POINT, EVER, in being angry at a woman– any more than it is useful to be angry at a 2-year-old for pouring sand in a gas tank. Did she sleep with 17 different biker dudes? She wasn’t supervised properly. Did she rape a guy in divorce court? White knight men allowed the laws to become ridiculously skewed in her favor. If there’s a problem with her behavior, we men need to resolve the issue among ourselves.

      3) Gender equality is a lie. Legally, yes, they must be equal, culturally and socially they are very different.

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      • on February 12, 2012 at 10:05 am sciencebzzt

        great points

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  9. on February 1, 2012 at 4:45 pm Firepower

    But Chateau Heartiste called this broad out for the psycho, man-hating bitch she really is a long time ago.

    The real issue is not her, but why people give her 600+ posts.

    And far better sites
    have far less

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  10. on February 1, 2012 at 4:46 pm Avid Reader

    I was once dating a masculanized cow of the same type and was reduced to a beta supplicant. Go easy on the name calling of the husband, he was probably once a proud and strong man before he met this wench.

    In some instances the wench is so strung out that you can barely blame the husband. Agreed?

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 4:26 am Lance Draper

      No. You are the master of your fate, the captain of your soul.

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      • on February 2, 2012 at 12:27 pm William Ernest Henley

        That’s my line…

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      • on February 2, 2012 at 12:52 pm Firepower

        Lance Draper

        No. You are the master of your fate, the captain of your soul.

        Well – with an attitude like that, you’ll never be a Great mra; you have to learn to blame others – and subsequently, cry loud and hard about your plight continuously .

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      • on February 5, 2012 at 1:30 am ow

        Timothy McVeigh

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      • on February 8, 2012 at 10:56 am Firepower

        Oh that Timmay
        All talk no
        action

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 10:57 am whorefinder

      You might have been unschooled or unskilled in how to deal with women, especially the crazies. Modern society propaganda can fill your head with tons of backwards and stupid shit, and modern women more and more are head cases who won’t behave.

      This is why we have blogs like Heartsie.

      Also, old movies. To watch a master deal with a psycho head case, check out Gone With the Wind. Scarlett’s a massive head case, definite BPD (and played by Vivian Leigh, who was legit bi-polar, and undiagnosed—hence why the performance rings so true). The man who plays her the best? Clark Gable’s Rhett Butler barely gives this wench any chance to be a psycho, dropping her like a used car when she pushes it too far, leaving her wet and dripping vaginially.

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  11. on February 1, 2012 at 4:48 pm Invictus III

    Most women would just wear a pair of shorts and lift up one side of those shorts to snap a picture but noooo she’s gotta be lying down and completely naked.

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  12. on February 1, 2012 at 4:53 pm whorefinder

    Thanks for the subtle shout-out in the post.

    I dated a girl with BPD. Oh, I didn’t know it, but she acted like a drunken psycho bitch every time she had a few, including threatening any woman who brushed up against me; flirting with bartenders when I ignored her entreaties on nights I was tired, telling me about men flirting with her at work/school/etc.

    After we busted up in an incredibly dramatic, hamster-masturbatory-fantasy that must’ve put her on cloud nine for months, I tried to figure out exactly what was wrong with her. That’s when I hit on BPD on the internet. And it fit her to a T:

    Broken home, absentee father whom she nonetheless worshiped, father was a player as well: 70 years old with no job or money, balding, short, scrawny, and yet was dating a personal fitness instructor literally younger than his daughter, grown up in the violent D.C. ghetto, mother was a drunk. Her coping mechanisms guaranteed to keep the extreme drama she’d grown accustomed to as a child as the norm. Hence, when I offered stability, she rebelled.

    After I learned a bit of game, I did run into her at a bar we’d frequented. Instead of blowing up at her or talking “deeply” with her, (both of which would have fed her hamster some cocaine-laced pornography, and both of which i might have done pre-Game) I did the worst thing possible for her hamster-ego:

    I smiled when I saw her, waved hi, and continued talking to the woman I was with, ignoring psycho ex.

    Psycho’s hamster got curious, came over, and tried to infiltrate. When my quarry asked who she was, I talked over them both: “oh, just someone I used to know. Nothing big.” Then boxed the psycho ex-out as her eyes got wide. When the ex kept staring over at us, I got antsy and got the girl I was with to move to another locale with me.

    The next few weeks I got random late-night hang up phone calls from a familiar area code and number (I’d long deleted her number, to prevent beta-esque drunk text and calls), plus one garbled drunk message clearly burbled out after a late night.

    And I never responded to them at all.

    Game is not only a life-saver and a life-changer. It is also the best revenge.

    Thanks Heartsie.

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 3:27 am Phoenix

      AHMEN, brother!

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 4:29 am Lance Draper

      That is a beautiful story. I salute you sir.

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 10:19 am Anton

      It’s surprising how little variability there is in BPD behavior. Good post.

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      • on February 2, 2012 at 11:24 am whorefinder

        Agreed. Once I found the BPD test, she fit about half the criteria without any thinking required, and most of the rest after a bit of thinking about it.

        It’s amazing how much it cleared up ion my head. Once I realized this was her problem, i stopped blaming myself for all her craziness. Kind of like paleo dieting—once you realize it works and apply its few simple rules, you realize how easy everything becomes in that area.

        I guess my awakening about her came about the same time I started following game. Both were about analyzing female behavior and figuring out what I was doing so wrong and why they seemed so illogical in their words/actions.

        In reality, female behavior, like eating correctly, is explained in the simplest possible terms. The problems in both arenas arise from over thinking the situation, or thinking them too complex.

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      • on February 3, 2012 at 9:17 am Tyrone

        “In reality, female behavior, like eating correctly, is explained in the simplest possible terms. The problems in both arenas arise from over thinking the situation, or thinking them too complex.”

        That sir, is the essence of conservatism. Good post.

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 11:37 am WillieMaize24

      This is a heartwarming story.

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  13. on February 1, 2012 at 4:56 pm anononononno

    Yeah, this shit would have saved my life years ago…figuratively. First, as alpha emerging from an omega drone shell, my BPD girl jumped on my bandwagon as it started going, so I was still a babe in the woods. If cheating on the bitch would’ve satisfied her need for drama more so than making false police reports about me whenever I’d try to break up with her, I’d be general by now. Lord knows, the authorities don’t care, it’s always the boy’s fault.

    I’d say this, instead of asking men to take violence off the table (violence being something that women do with impunity to other women and to men) why not ask women to take ostracism and other social shaming weapons out of their holsters. It’s unnatural. Both men and women will push back if pushed, but because of BPD bitches, men get trashed by “the sycophantic chorus of her careerist fembot and scrap-begging mangina readers.”

    If you have a BPD bitch, run. If that doesn’t work, maybe cheating and other displays of crazy on your part will satisfy the urge while the arsenic takes hold.

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  14. on February 1, 2012 at 4:56 pm Rum

    The most over-the-top female BPD monster I ever spent time with also happened to smell the best to me of any woman I have known.. Spending time around her was like walking in a cloud of opium smoke.. The scent of her bedsheets for some reason reminded me of happiness though in real life it was nothing of the sort.

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    • on February 1, 2012 at 7:19 pm bob

      The most over-the-top female BPD monster I ever spent time with also happened to smell the best to me of any woman I have known

      Some part of me really would like to know if that is what excessive estrogen smells like. That would go right along with CH’s theory of BPD just being HyperFemale.

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    • on February 1, 2012 at 9:00 pm n/a

      Nature has her ruses.

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 2:06 pm Anonymous

      Boy, does this ever ring true. Best. Smelling. Woman. Ever. My own personal heroin. And yet, a master manipulator with no remorse or accountability. Fantastic. You’ll only make that mistake once…

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      • on February 2, 2012 at 2:19 pm Maya

        this is interesting … off topic question: do you guys “smell” a girl and from how far away? (i find it funny that i can smell someone i like from half a meter away … and his smell alone made me fall in love with him)

        [heartiste: i remember a girl i used to be able to smell from 10 yards. course, she loved refried beans.]

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      • on February 2, 2012 at 2:40 pm Anonymous

        If she doesn’t smell “right”, it ain’t happening– at least not for more than few times. That’s just me. I’ve never had bad sex with a woman who smelled “right”. So that’s that.

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      • on February 2, 2012 at 2:50 pm Maya

        sounds good. so i think i will follow my nose …

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      • on February 2, 2012 at 2:42 pm Maya

        what about girls you like?

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      • on February 3, 2012 at 9:47 pm Fred Rotten

        @ Maya:

        It’s been my experience to not so much notice the *distance* of a particular female’s scent, but rather that I either do or I do not react to it. For example, I used to work with a young woman whose scent had such a powerful and intoxicating effect on me that the veins in my neck would begin to throb and pulse as if my heart were located there. I suppose I should mention the pulsing and throbbing hard-on I’d get, too. But this only happened when we were quite close, like for instance if we were leaning into each other to whisper comments. No other woman in that particular setting had the same effect on me, regardless of how visually attractive I found them.

        God, I miss smelling her!

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      • on February 5, 2012 at 5:16 am Maya

        Haha, this is funny. I had a similar problem with someone I used to be in love a while ago. He was significantly older and not handsome but he had this intoxicating smell. After getting to know his smell I couldn’t stop stalking him. I could analyze everything what was going on with me and I tried to behave normally but I couldn’t. I lied many times just to come closer to him. He’s a bit too old for me and in a LTR but he still makes me feel extremely happy when I see him. He has an amazing smell with an amazing anti-depressant effect. It wakes me up immediately and I fell completely alive, happy and safe.

        A question about girls: Is it true that only young girls have this pleasant smell?
        (another very good reason to be afraid of the time that passes really quickly)

        I liked your very romantic description of what happened to you when you were smelling this young woman … I’m afraid that an old woman is unable to trigger this intense reaction?

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  15. on February 1, 2012 at 5:03 pm passingby

    My, my, my.

    I barely skimmed this stuff, but I think I see a made-for-cable story of ambition, reckless love, danger, heartbreak, and …. [music swells] triumph.

    Jennifer Love Hewitt could play Trunk in the drama, of course. There would be an informative, heartfelt after-show presentation on domestic violence, with the smartly-dressed Hewitt and Trunk both appearing, side by side. Their earnest message would end with phone numbers to call, and assurances that women and their children suffering from violence “are not alone.” Think of the chillllldren!

    Trunk will, of course, graciously accept the invitation to speak with the gals from the View. It will be part of her duties to promote the powerful, moving story she will sell to Oxygen and promote on Oprah.

    Oh, and because there are pampered, middle-aged women with no real career or talent stacking up in suburbs all across America, Trunk will have to consider her ability to become an inspirational speaker at luncheons. Those bored housewives would love to down some fattening banquet food, dish with a few frenemies from the club, and then settle in to hear this gal tell her tale of ambition, reckless love, danger, heartbreak and … [tears of happy joy] triumph.

    Cue applause.

    My take on it all is this is pretty much female porn for a certain segment of suburban, “well-read” (i.e., contemporary fiction and self-help) women you will find married to unappreciated, hard-working dudes who provide for them and the kids. This gal has got some gold if she knows how to package it right and market it.

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    • on February 1, 2012 at 9:09 pm n/a

      There’s something urgently sexy about the “bored suburban housewife” that resists a man’s urge to dismiss the idea as mere cliche.

      Coming in her mouth in the “mudroom” on a bright January midmorning is a beautiful thing.

      Luscious, evil, pampered cat — what else could really good pussy be?

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      • on February 2, 2012 at 3:49 am Anon

        “Coming in her mouth”?….
        Naah. Womanizer 101: If the bitch is married, blast in her pussy.

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    • on February 1, 2012 at 9:13 pm Anonymous

      Like Eddie Muprhy said, be a ‘Ho…

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    • on February 3, 2012 at 9:18 am Tyrone

      That’s why she has 600+ responses to the post. Good analysis.

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  16. on February 1, 2012 at 5:10 pm anononononno

    One night they were wallpapering. They had been wallpapering the living room after work for a week. My mom got mad at my dad and threw red paint all over the wallpaper. Ruined all their work. He didn’t respond. He was stunned. Then she knocked over the table with the wallpaper and the glue. It ruined the newly varnished floors. He held her arms so she couldn’t do anything else. He held tighter and tighter. She kicked him to get loose. She left no mark. He hit her in the face.

    That’s Trunk talking about her parents. That is how, I imagine most, OMG zero tolerance 4 life bullshit fuck Lifetime TV real man on women domestic violence occurs. So, now dad’s a bad guy for ever? He goes to jail, loses kids? fuck that. Trunk at least knows that zero tolerance bullshit is bullshit.

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  17. on February 1, 2012 at 5:15 pm Aaron

    …extended verbal fights with no ending or solution in sight…

    They are extended and irresolvable because nothing less than multiple apologies and resolutions to completely transform yourself as a person for whichever non-infraction they’re projecting their inner turmoil on will suffice, and even then…

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  18. on February 1, 2012 at 5:21 pm Killer Instinct

    I’ve been waiting for a brilliant post, a la Chataeu of old, and here it is. The nonsensical internet drama of a perpetual headcase distilled to the incontrovertible truths of human nature. Bravo, Heartiste.

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  19. on February 1, 2012 at 5:27 pm evilalpha

    Been with enough crazy bitches to the know that the best place to leave a bruise is on the back of her throat. For a sassy bitch the price for opening her mouth… is her opening her mouth.

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  20. on February 1, 2012 at 5:30 pm Samuel

    I would systematically administer large doses of corporal punishment.

    I would definitely incorporate a ball-gag into her training. Not only does she obviously want physical pain, she NEEDS it… both to allay her self-hatred and for the general stimulation of it. The gag would completely remove her primary power: words. She’d be wearing it most of the day, for a damn long time.

    This sort of training is that woman’s only hope. I bet she’d be complicit with it.

    If I met a chick like that right now, I wouldn’t bother… but she might be actually pretty great once she is brought into full submission, and becomes well-trained.

    Just like a shitty wild dog can become docile and pleasing… only extensive, skilled training can accomplish it… but it *would* accomplish it.

    Except with the dog, if it won’t fuckin learn, you can just put it down. With women, that’s a bit more illegal.

    haha

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    • on February 1, 2012 at 7:00 pm xsplat

      Not a chance.

      BPD women are untrainable.

      Sure, you can have great dominance/submissive sex with em. But you can’t ever make them continually submit. They are perpetually wild and dangerous animals, and it’s foolhardy to ever consider them otherwise.

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    • on February 1, 2012 at 8:30 pm One Who Knows

      “I would definitely incorporate a ball-gag into her training.”

      That’s kinda fun to joke about when you’re in your early- to mid-twenties, fresh outta school, with nary a care in the world, and certainly with no responsibilities whatsoever.

      But poor Farmer has biological children by this crazy psycho bitch – does he not?

      In fact, Farmer made a COLOSSAL tactical & strategic blunder when he allowed crazy psycho bitch to take the kids with her to the hotel.

      He shoulda drawn a line in the sand over that stunt.

      Terrible, terrible blunder.

      No one f*cks with my kids.

      NO. ONE.

      That’s a principle you stand your ground on, come hell or high water: DNFW.

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      • on February 2, 2012 at 11:31 am One Who Knows

        Replying to myself here.

        I followed a link that someone posted below:

        http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2010/04/20/turning-point/

        And it looks like maybe the kids are NOT farmer’s biological children?

        If so, then he needs to get out now, before she starts leveling the false accusations of child molestation.

        [And obviously – if they aren’t his biological children, then that would explain why he would let her take them to the hotel with her.]

        PS: If you read that link above, she mentions something about “A lively rendition of the Sh’ma…” so it’s pretty clear that she’s a jewess.

        http://www.google.com/search?safe=off&q=Sh%27ma

        And now that I’ve seen a picture of the farmer, he looks pretty dadgum jewish himself.

        At this point, I’d refer to a post that I made at Steve Sailer’s site a while back:

        Are there any statistics on the demographics of Freud’s patients? By and large, were they not just a bunch of crazy neurotic nutso kooky Jewesses with too much time on their hands?…

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      • on February 2, 2012 at 2:24 pm D

        No they are not. She was previously married for something like 16 years.

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      • on February 2, 2012 at 6:17 pm uh

        So let me get this straight.

        Jewesses are loony, self-destructive drama queens who crave attention.

        No, that just can’t be right!

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  21. on February 1, 2012 at 5:39 pm evilalpha

    Don’t forget the buttplug. Penelope seems like a handful.

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  22. on February 1, 2012 at 5:40 pm Southern Man

    I’ve been reading PT for a while; she’s even on my blogroll. I imagine that she gets a lot of hits because InstaPundit occasionally links to her (which is how I found my way to The Chateau a couple of years ago). You never know what’s going to happen next in that particular soap opera. But I always cheer for The Farmer because he reminds me of my dad – a hard-working man, salt of the Earth, who really has no idea how to deal with his woman. Whatever Mom and Dad are doing works, but he really doesn’t have a clue. And I would never have recognized this, or how frustrated she sometimes gets with him, without game.

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  23. on February 1, 2012 at 6:06 pm PA

    “ancient biological force that subconsciously deems the female of the sex a more valuable commodity than the male”

    … ancient biological force that subconsciously deems the YOUNG female of the sex a more valuable commodity than the male.

    Older women, unless they’re mothers, grandmothers, or devoted caretakers, are biologically useless.

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  24. on February 1, 2012 at 6:18 pm Samuel

    good call, evilalpha. I’ll get the spiked one.

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  25. on February 1, 2012 at 6:28 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)


    Tom Leykis- Women and Domestic Violence (Full Episode)

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  26. on February 1, 2012 at 6:32 pm Tommydagun

    If she is just attention-whoring and trying to one-up her man in drama, she’s doing it in a very dangerous way. Prosecutors don’t need cooperative complaining witnesses to make domestic violence cases and can subpoena uncooperative “victims” to force them to testify under penalty of perjury (the liberal/feminazi propaganda is that they’re all brainwashed “battered women” stuck in a “cycle of abuse” who can’t stand up for themselves). Leaving evidence like these pictures and descriptions like this around is stuff that cops and prosecutors can grab with a warrant or subpoena. Once Mr. Beta is charged, he’ll be put under a restraining order and kept out of his house and away from his kids until the conclusion of trial. If he’s convicted, he’ll be barred for life from ever owning or even touching a gun, and in many states he’ll be forced into a “batterer’s program” and will be presumed to be an unfit parent if he and his wife ever divorce (meaning she’ll get sole custody). All of this is visible in the recent criminal case filed this year against San Francisco Sheriff and former Supervisor Ross Mirkarimi, for those interested in how it works in practice (including with a wife who’s recanted and refused to cooperate with prosecutors, but who was dumb enough to leave pictures and texts with a feminist neighbor who called the cops).

    The femcunts and white-knight mangina politicians who cater to them have made the direct and collateral consequences of domestic violence criminal charges the cobalt bomb of the 40-year war they’ve waged on men and marriage. Men, and for that matter, women who’s intentions are other than to see their significant others and the fathers of their children ground into dust by this machinery, persist in ignorance of the operation and consequences of this system at their peril.

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    • on February 1, 2012 at 9:13 pm n/a

      Yeah, well, you know there’s only one thing that reverses this well-oiled dystopia.

      You better hope that the Chinese are as hungry as I think they are.

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    • on February 1, 2012 at 9:38 pm Anonymous

      These guys also have their Second Amendment rights taken away in many places.

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      • on February 3, 2012 at 9:29 am Tyrone

        Everywhere. Its called the Lautenberg amendment. Even misdemeanor DV charges will cause your 2nd amendment rights to be lost.

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  27. on February 1, 2012 at 6:36 pm caveman6200

    Yeah, I read Penelope Trunk for a while one day and then suddenly realized, holy shit, this chick is crazy. A friend of mine one told me, never trust a woman with a flat ass.

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 10:24 am Anton

      Thanks for pointing this out. I’ve also noticed an odd but strong correlation between flat asses and BPD. I see a nice gene association study in the making.

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      • on February 2, 2012 at 11:17 am Sidewinder

        My ex-wife is BPD. And she has a flat ass. She actually has a very similar psuedo-professional look as Trunk as well. They are truly scary. I will never forget the vacant look in my ex-wife’s eyes during one of her episodes. It was like a horror movie. As soon as I got the hell out of there, I told my friend “I think I know what a person looks like right before they kill someone.”

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      • on February 4, 2012 at 5:31 pm The Builder

        I left my BPD ex wife eight years ago and I will never forgot that thousand yard stare in her eyes during one of her fits. Sidewinder is right, guys. Murder or at least mayhem is always near. These women ooze sex and chaos. They live it, sleep with it, and have it for breakfast every god damn day. You cannot really know, at a gut level, what it’s like to be with one of these hyperfems, unless you have been there and done that. And, here’s the kicker, the longer you are with a woman like this, the crazier you become. Madness is truly catching. Of course some game would have helped me back in those days, but living with a BPD will wear down most men over time. I gave 10 years of my life to that woman. If you are reading this and you think that you are with a BPD woman, leave her. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. Leave her. Ignore her. It might take a few years, but she will eventually leave you alone.

        Women ask me today why am I single. I tell them that I’m happily divorced.

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 9:36 am Anonymous

        The crazy eyes, like she checked out of her body. The eyes, wide and in a trance like, unblinking rage. Seconds before something got thrown or she sprung on me physically her eyes became eerily souless. As if she had been taken over. Like she was no longer in the room but her body was still there ready to attack. One of the scariest things I’ve ever seen.

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      • on February 10, 2012 at 4:43 am Anonymous

        yes yes yes , it can scare you to death

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      • on February 10, 2012 at 8:47 pm Adam

        Tibetan Medicine argues that most mental disorders are caused by spirits. I’m starting to believe them.

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      • on February 11, 2012 at 11:55 am King A

        Sidewinder wrote:

        I will never forget the vacant look in my ex-wife’s eyes during one of her episodes. It was like a horror movie. As soon as I got the hell out of there, I told my friend “I think I know what a person looks like right before they kill someone.”

        Also known as possession. We used to call it that. Literal possession — she is the property of a force other than herself. All of the clinical diagnoses and euphemisms in the world (BPD, PTSD, NPD: BFD) won’t shield us from the truth or make it easier to understand that look of unhinged horror Sidewinder experienced. We think we are so clever calling everything a disease and everything else genetic.

        There is a tendency to think science requires us to de-personalize the universe. But personification is how we relate to things, not because the forces are literally intelligent and constitutive of a will but because man is the natural measure of the universe. It is technically false to ascribe “anger” to the volcano, but it helps us understand anger per se by endowing it with the human traits to which every man can relate.

        Scientistic vivisectors are dullards: they witness the superstition of paganism and crudely conclude the diametrical opposite must be true. If the Greeks thought thunderclaps were a war of the gods, then we moderns must insist that every analogy decouple itself from ordinary human experience, and call it a day. This totalitarian mindset has led to the dehumanization of nature and supernature. The mark of the bien-pensant is to assume humanity itself must follow the necrosis begun by the scientific method: i.e., the human is not human at all but rather a trick of the mind; we are a mere bundle of urges, nothing more than the interplay of molecules.

        Materialism is more magical than the mysticism of pagans. True inquiry requires us to say, at bottom, “Hey, we don’t really know.” (Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα.) We used to put placeholders on the permanent mysteries, and we personified those placeholders to better understand their power, especially the Chief Mystery of the universe, God itself (Himself). Explaining away Sidewinder’s encounter as a chemical surge does not adequately encompass his full experience. He had to dip into the arts — “It was like a horror movie” — to relate the sensation to us.

        I am resurrecting the word demonic. Sidewinder’s wife was demonically possessed. No, she was not captured by Pazuzu, but she was taken by a force that cannot be medicalized. Describing all behavior with the language of medicine is like trying to write a book using ten letters of the alphabet. The demon is not an outmoded superstition; it is disbelieved because it is misdefined. It isn’t an ethereal wisp of ectoplasm floating in and out of people like a Casper cartoon. It is a force of life, so far out of the ordinary that it belongs to supernature. It helps to call him by his proper name.

        And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many.

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      • on February 11, 2012 at 1:51 pm Maya

        Oh, how cute. YOU noticed a strong correlation between flat asses and BPD. You don’t even know what BPD is, nor you are a psychiatrist able to diagnose it (it’s difficult even for them).

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  28. on February 1, 2012 at 6:39 pm Mukluk

    After reading some of her other posts, there’s a very substantial chance she’s not autistic/Aspergic.

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    • on February 1, 2012 at 9:04 pm Anonymous

      Naw, she’s just F-ed up… nothing special there.

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    • on February 1, 2012 at 9:26 pm Anonymous

      Of course she isn’t.. it is just that idiotic SWPL mania of calling oneself “aspie”/autistic, subtly conveying what a fucking genus, tortoured soul one is.

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      • on February 1, 2012 at 10:12 pm John Norman Howard

        Indeed… the proverbial Ever Popular Tortured Artist Effect, femcunt variation.

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      • on February 3, 2012 at 4:17 pm Phillyastro

        +1 for the Rundgren reference

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      • on February 1, 2012 at 10:59 pm Dan Fletcher

        “it is just that idiotic SWPL mania of calling oneself “aspie”/autistic, subtly conveying what a fucking genus, tortoured soul one is.”

        You mean Reddit?

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      • on February 2, 2012 at 7:14 am passingby

        Precisely.

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 11:18 am D

      She’s definitely got AS. I dated her briefly and she exhibited all the signs.

      [heartiste: ooh, an insider! *licks chops*]

      The most obvious sign is her complete lack of understanding of sarcasm. She also had a really hard time understanding body language and facial expressions. Loud noises paralyzed her.

      [this comports with what a commenter below says; namely, that she is masculinized by some pre or post natal hormonal issues. would explain the spergitude. where it gets puzzling is how asperger’s and BPD can coexist in the same woman. if BPD is hyperfemale, as i theorize, and asperger’s is hypermale, then to find both conditions in one person is quite a biological feat.]

      It’s a shame everyone is piling on her here. She was a fan.

      [i’m not surprised.
      unfortunately, she is a useful pawn. my ultimate prey is much bigger.
      let’s hope she takes this as an opportunity to step away from the internet and stop shitting all over her husband’s life.]

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      • on February 2, 2012 at 5:57 pm D

        Her father has AS too. And one of her sons.

        Writing is her life. She has been doing it since she was 4 years old. She’ll never stop blogging.

        For the curious, here is some stuff she did in the 90s.

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      • on February 2, 2012 at 5:58 pm D

        Not sure if the link came through: http://hypertext.penelopetrunk.com/

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      • on February 2, 2012 at 6:22 pm uh

        fyi …

        my ex-gf:

        flat ass
        rail thin
        small tits
        no ability to grasp sarcasm (it even irritated her)
        aversion to loud noises / strong scents
        “masculinized” face
        chronically depressed

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  29. on February 1, 2012 at 6:42 pm Mr. Roach

    BPD is usually visible from troubled relationships, acting out, drama, etc. It’s pretty obvious Trunk is BPD, whether in her self harm or weird sexual experiences with dad, ups and downs with the Farmer, etc. But she insists she’s Aspberger’s. BPD is a diagnosis no one wants; it’s barely treatable, and it has well deserved stigma.

    These women can turn a strong man weak with their constant strategizing and ability to lock in your attention early with great sex. Beware of the BPD signs. Beware!

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  30. on February 1, 2012 at 6:46 pm DirkJohanson

    Legal prostitution would keep her in line, too. Vote Ron Paul

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  31. on February 1, 2012 at 6:53 pm askjoe

    If she is just attention-whoring and trying to one-up her man in drama, she’s doing it in a very dangerous way.

    yup.

    But go down the road to the bad side of town, where they film cops, and you’ll see this play out every night. Bitch calls police (or neighbors do), police comes into break up fight between mom and dad, and mom throws drano on the cops.

    I think that maybe, there might be some anti-male propaganda going on here, that maybe the wife beating as masterbatorially illustrated in movies like LA Confidential or Good Will Hunting, may be a little…ah dramaticized to make dad look bad. It’s probably two crazy people throwing dishes at each other.

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  32. on February 1, 2012 at 6:59 pm kokoww@yahoo.com

    I feel like grudge-fisting that bitch deep in her flabby flat ass crack

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  33. on February 1, 2012 at 7:02 pm Maya

    yes, attention whoring is just for very young and pretty … when you’re a grown-up, you notice that nobody wants to put up with your BPD anymore … except people on the internet 😀

    and i agree with you that this is a typical female behavior. sometimes we just want to be children again. and some of us just can’t grow up. but i guess that eventually most women begin to behave normally. this penelope is an annoying exception.

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 3:46 am Anon

      Sometimes, you remind me of David Alexander.
      Brilliant, inscrutable, fucked up troll.

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  34. on February 1, 2012 at 7:20 pm Twister

    $5 this chick is in to S&M.

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  35. on February 1, 2012 at 7:20 pm Kafkaesque

    Heartiste, you’ve got to read this post from last year where she reports how she smashed a lamp ON HER OWN HEAD during a fight.

    http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2011/01/03/how-to-bounce-back-2/

    Penelope Trunk is one of my guilty pleasures. She’s completely insane and has terrible judgment about everything, and I find her lack of self-awareness incredibly funny.

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  36. on February 1, 2012 at 7:34 pm H

    I read some of the comments on her blog post and… my god its even more horrible than the picture of her ass. I’m so used to reading just a handful of good blogs and forums that I forgot tools like this existed. Heres a gem
    “You are abusing your children by staying. You. You are responsible for you and them. Get out and stay out.

    Violence is ALWAYS wrong. It is NOT your fault.

    Please for your children get out. You know you must. Now find the strength and the support and do it.”

    For the CHIIILLLLLDREN!!

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 1:38 am Anonymous

      Female equivalent of a douchebag.

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  37. on February 1, 2012 at 8:48 pm GeishaKate

    I started to read her blog post but didn’t get too far. Its sad. Its just sad. Abuse real or imagined, the dysfunction is there. And what is the solution? So much damage, so little time. And not enough ways to reach people. Generational dysfunction, like generational poverty, is a harder cycle to break because there is no knowledge that THERE IS A BETTER WAY. Its not necessary to live like that. Quiet the mind, quiet the soul. “Simplify, simplify, simplify!”

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 11:39 am Sidewinder

      Holy shit women need to hear that message. You and other women like you need to get the word out. Not meant as a slight against women at all, but they are the more socially dependent gender, and they need social/familial/religious norms to support functional decisionmaking.

      I genuinely feel compassion for young women today. I’m seeing a 21 year old who is beautiful, intelligent and warm-hearted. However, because she is intelligent, she feels pressured to be successful in school (and eventually a career). And I can see her looking for approval for what she is supposed to be doing. She won’t say no to anything, so she’s working 2 jobs/internships, taking full course load, thinking that she wants to go to law school (which she shouldn’t because she’s attractive and nothing like the miserable lawyer women I kwork with). She is so strung out that she doesn’t have time to eat some days.

      If she had friends, church, family, social culture telling her that she should prioritize her physical health as a future mother, she would be a great one. Unfortunately, unless her current trajectory is derailed, I see her getting chewed up and spit out by the divorce system.

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      • on February 2, 2012 at 2:48 pm GeishaKate

        I would love to get the word out. Any suggestions? I’m beginning to feel like an evangelist 🙂 As for your gal, gently tell her she’s not supposed to be a man. She’s starting the emotional equivalent of a sex change. And, should you stay together, make sure you are the man so she doesn’t think she has to be.

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 6:23 pm uh

      the solution is a length of rope and a tree branch.

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  38. on February 1, 2012 at 8:50 pm smiley

    I live alone with a BSP mother. Any advice?

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    • on February 1, 2012 at 11:25 pm Andrew Medina

      Do you live in a castle doctrine state?

      If you do there’s your solution.

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 1:20 am driveallnight

      The aforementioned ball gag? Lock the basement door so she can’t get into your room?

      Or maybe just kill her?

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 7:12 am MrDamage

      “Any advice?” Leave.

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  39. on February 1, 2012 at 8:51 pm smiley

    BPD*. D’oh.

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  40. on February 1, 2012 at 9:06 pm Anonymous

    Read her blog… same old work/life-is-a-popularity-contest drivel that leaves people who actually have to get work done or care for their family members disgusted.

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  41. on February 1, 2012 at 9:54 pm Anonymous

    http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/1x3d/

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  42. on February 1, 2012 at 10:19 pm m

    Oh boy…been there, DONE THAT. Everyone here needs to see the warning signs and know to stay away from these women.

    The first thing you will notice with these girls is the intense, soul to soul eye contact. They will have a coked out glaze in their eyes. They will instantly make you their confidant, and try to draw you into their world. First date, at the bar…whatever.

    Next up comes the idealization. You will be the best thing to have ever walked the earth. This will feel incredible, and you will think you won the lottery. She likes everything you like, she has your back, she calls you brilliant or unique or special. She will find out what is important to you and she will become it. This is very seductive and nearly impossible to resist if you havent been burned before by one of these idiots.

    Next comes the sex…ohhhh, the sex. It will be up there with the best sex you have ever had in your life. This can keep many guys hooked for a long time. It’s not just the sex, or the positions or whatever…it is the look in her eyes, the way she moves, the way she submits, ….its amazing. If you have game and can just get to this level and keep it there until you get sick of her….it would be fantastic…but it doesnt end there.

    Next up comes the devaluing. The first time it happens she is usually drunk or stressed so you dismiss it. She says the most evil things imaginable to you. Im not talking about calling you an asshole or something….oh no no…this will be far more vicious. She will openly flirt with the guy next to you, she will call you satan incarnate. She will lie, she will do ANYTHING to get you to react with anger. I cannot stress how much alcohol plays a role in this. In fact, I now get women I date to get shitfaced with me immediately while I stay relatively sober to see if this monster comes out.

    If you stay with them long enough, they eventually become this monster all the time. You wonder where the sex went, where the passion went…its all hate, and none of it makes any sense. She will accuse you of ANYTHING. I mean anything. She will claim sexual molestation, false abuse, theft….whatever she has to…

    If you stay with a woman like this, or idiotically reproduce with one of these idiots (they are the master of the oops pregnancy) you are doomed!

    There is no simple breakup with a woman like this. So dont kid yourself. The one I was with dropped hints that she had been raped by an ex, her ex husband, AND her dad. Yep…everyones a rapist. riiiiight I moved before we broke up but I have no doubt in my mind that she demonizes me to anyone that will listen.

    They really are females on steroids, but they are very dangerous and if you wish to use one of these creatures for sex….be my guest, but unless you are a complete asshole with thick skin like myself I wouldnt bother. And I never will bother again.

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 2:55 pm Miss_Fu

      Sounds almost like a campfire horror story. Scary.

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      • on February 2, 2012 at 6:30 pm uh

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_of_Eden_(novel)

        Cathy Ames. Steinbeck pegged this type decades ago.

        The thing is, this type thrives above all on the attention they receive just for being so monstrous. If everyone could turn their back on the monster, it would grow bored and retire to a quiet life of domestic abuse; but the internet gives it a voice for all to hear.

        As I say, the only solution to the Penelope Trunks of the world, as for all her ilk, is a length of rope and a tree branch. No need to analyze, explain, or condemn.

        String ’em up.

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      • on February 3, 2012 at 9:08 am Tyrone

        No, you just need a legal system that understands what they’re up to and cuts men the appropriate amount of slack when they instigate things. We used to have that. If you didn’t have to worry about DV charges, these women could be fun and useful instead of dangerous. VAWA was like manna from heaven for these types of women and was written for them.

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  43. on February 1, 2012 at 10:24 pm whiskeysplace

    I had NEVER heard of this person before until Heartiste had it on the Twitter update.

    What a loon. I can’t understand why all that stupid drama gets hits. There’s real life stuff to look at. She doesn’t even have attractive actors playing out the parts. Pathetic really.

    [Whiskey’s new blog address/persona: I moved to WordPress after some inexplicable Google drama.]

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 6:32 pm uh

      “I can’t understand why all that stupid drama gets hits. ”

      A wise man said: Every time a Jew has an experience, there’s a book out.

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  44. on February 1, 2012 at 10:29 pm AssNeck

    One bruise on her hip so she shows her pancake she laughingly calls an ass?

    She is psycho and I feel sorry for her kids and husband.

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 5:27 pm Tyrone

      The photo is sexy and well done, despite the pancake ass. She has some artistic talent. I grant her that. She might be ok to hang out with if she weren’t such a whack job. BTW, Wisconsin is full of fat young women. Milk, cheese, and corn in abundance. A man with a gf who has a normal WHR there is considered fortunate and many think he has to suck up to her to keep her. Anthrr reason perhaps, Farmer sticks around.

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  45. on February 1, 2012 at 10:37 pm Anonymous

    Reality check.. Penelope is hot (she must have been an 8/9 in her prime) ridiculously intelligent, talented, creative… in other words, she’s immensely appealing. Yet, she’s single. This tells you that all is not what it appears. If she weren’t BPD and were normal, the lovely Penelope would have 3 kids, a nice alpha but beta enough to marry high income male in a lovely upper 3% suburb of a major coastal metro. She could have had this, but she deliberately chose not to.

    The point is… the beautiful and intelligent women you stumble across SHOULD be married. They aren’t married for a reason.. they are too f-n batshit, self-absorbed and femcunt. Something to remember you are on a date with a 25 year old 9 with a lively personality and a great career trying to pass herself off as wifey material. Not all is what it appears and she likely has a medicine cabinet full of meds. If she were sane she’d be preggers, married to an ibanker and living in an upper east side townhouse. If she were 19, she might reasonably be the real deal.

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 12:17 pm Tyrone

      Penelope is overrated here. She’s about a 6.5 for me. In her best days, maybe a 7.5. She’s not hot enough to deal with this psycho crap she enjoys so much.

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  46. on February 1, 2012 at 10:47 pm will

    This women probably qualifies for:

    http://www.register-her.com

    A register for man hating femicunts.

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  47. on February 2, 2012 at 12:04 am Rick Derris

    So this is the guy that’s married to her???

    http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/the-farmer/

    Pics from the happy wedding day:

    http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2010/04/20/turning-point/

    Yuck – ok enough of this, time for Brazzers.

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 12:57 pm Diomedes

      CH was bang on the money in his description of the husband. You can tell a lot about a book by its cover. He is a soft touch and she has his balls under lock and key. There is no doubt. Anything written about him is going through a myriad of her self-serving filters.

      She craves attention from her readers and painting herself with a texture of drama and the colours of a victim gets her it. Expect the reality of the situation to be him pushing a threatening wife away, her taking the slightest of bumps and reframing it into being attacked by an aggressive and unchained abuser.

      No one who is being abused would write and post pictures as she does.

      The picture is one of the strangest aspects of the entire thing. Take stock, she has taken to lying down in the nude with her legs pulled up to take a photo of a bruise on her hip. How unnecessary and downright bizarre. We can only speculate why she has consciously or unconsciously chosen to do this. It clearly has sexual undertones – the set up would not look out of place in a feature about rape, lying and lying naked presents her with a vulnerability that standing infront of a mirror with her hip exposed would not and she has taken the decision to show off her arse. Again, all very bizarre.

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      • on February 2, 2012 at 6:42 pm uh

        Well bro, at least she isn’t out spray-painting swastikas on Jewish gravestones and shrieking about “Nazis”.

        Which is actually what all of this amounts to. For every Jew a book blog.

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      • on February 2, 2012 at 11:00 pm Diomedes

        Ha! Great point and interesting to hear that she is a jew. Explains a great deal – her self-loathing and the flat arse. Jew’s rarely have a semblance of curves.

        Though, she doesn’t take it seriously – http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2010/09/09/how-i-decide-to-work-on-rosh-hashannah/ Here is her talking about working on Rosh Oogabooga. Shit girl, Yahweh ain’t happy. He has taken your hubby as a vessel to smite you down. Expect your first born dying next.

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  48. on February 2, 2012 at 12:12 am Survivorman

    Nature has bestowed upon women some very effective *offensive* weapons,
    but they are poorly equipped for *defense*.

    Most men learn at a very early age when to STFU..

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  49. on February 2, 2012 at 12:17 am Days of Broken Arrows

    The attention whoring that provoked so much reaction from men when she was younger elicits nothing but indifference at best and contemptuous pity at worst from men when she is older and uglier.

    You’re being too kind and optimistic here. Once a woman of this nature hits around 40, it’s actually scary and provokes a “running away” response from men, who recoil in horror at her histrionics and clown-makeup face. I’ve been there — it’s not pretty. If a woman like this remains single it’s especially rough sledding, so at least Trunk has a family that’s sort of required to be around her giving her attention. Otherwise, you’d be dealing with that on the street, and that’s not good for anyone.

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 6:44 pm uh

      Have a look at the staff directory for Berkeley Public School District.

      About 60% Penelope Trunks.

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  50. on February 2, 2012 at 12:49 am jammyjaybird

    I fell in love with a BPD once. It was like being flattened by a silent bullet train, when I didn’t even realize I was standing on tracks.

    Ditto what earlier poster said about great sex. Crazy knows how to knock some boots. But I dodged the bullet: the guy she was cheating on me with knocked her up two months after we broke up. The whole thing taught me a lot. Just wish I would’ve known about Heartiste back then.

    Last note: Shrinks hate BPDs because there’s very little help for them — no medication — and they’re horribly manipulative.

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  51. on February 2, 2012 at 1:14 am Sad B

    It is refreshing to read such a sane article. Makes me feel less intellectually alone.
    Bless your heart, as Americans say.

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  52. on February 2, 2012 at 1:26 am Jesse Kohl

    Really. You actually spent your time writing this drivel. I am sincere in asking you this question and would like an honest answer, if you can.

    Why did you write this? What possible motive could you have? Please, I want to hear it. I’ll be waiting.

    [heartiste: mischievous glee!]

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  53. on February 2, 2012 at 1:46 am Jason

    This woman isn’t abused. Abused women don’t post their naked bodies online. That bruise was the result of aggressive sex the previous night. She decided it was abuse the following morning when hubby might have done or said something too beta for her liking. Out of revenge, she saw the bruise and decided it was from abuse. This is the kind of woman who calls her friends (if she has any) and tells them he’s controlling her if he doesn’t let her spend the mortgage payment on BS.

    Her psychoses aren’t limited to BPD. They run the entire gamut of the “cluster b personality disorders.”

    She has anti-social personality disorder because she’s violent herself, and has no regard for anyone.

    She has BPD which has already been discussed. BTW, BPD IS DIAGNOSED IN THREE TIMES AS MANY FEMALES AS MALES.

    She has Histrionic personality disorder, which is pervasive attention seeking including inappropriately seductive behavior. Showing off her bruise and naked ass at the same time is proof enough.

    She has Narcissistic personality disorder. She thinks she’s some kind of career woman, yet she lives on some bumfuck rural farm (grandiosity.) She has a need for admiration (naked bruise pic that draws comments of “nice ass” was planned.) She has a clear lack of empathy (everything is “I, I, I, etc).

    Her entire blog is what I call “whore jabber.” If you talk to enough female sex workers, a lot of their chatter is incoherent, self centered rambling that attempts to make them not look like whores, but usually fails badly.

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  54. on February 2, 2012 at 1:57 am berg

    This is the Most Important Post you have ever written on this blog. Every young man needs to take a course on these type of women.

    BUT…..

    Your last paragraph is dead wrong on handling these types. Dead Wrong on a dangerous level and I speak from experience of a family member married to one of these. If the man pulls alpha shit like you suggest with the phone call it will lead to a divorce where his name is dragged through the mud and the woman calls everyone she knows and talks to everyone in line and the grocery store getting sympathy.

    [heartiste: that advice is meant for girls you’re dating. if you’re already married… too late!]

    I was at Starbucks just last week and a trio of these types of women were all sympathizing over their divorces with one another.

    These are incredibly dangerous women. The best thing is to identify and avoid. BUT….. I have a theory that the only true way to handle them is to keep them busy with Bobbles—I.E. Be Rich and shower them with vacations and diamonds. No joke. My experience with this species is that they just want to be more interesting and better than everyone else….and if they can’t do it with money they will do it with drama.

    You have to keep them busy with adventures that make them feel better and more interesting then all the women around them. Combine this ‘keeping them busy’ with alpha behavior and then you may control them…

    But why would you want to?

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 12:39 pm John Norman Howard

      Make their heads bobble with baubles?

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      • on February 2, 2012 at 6:47 pm uh

        He wants to make them Hindus?

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  55. on February 2, 2012 at 2:00 am berg

    Here’s a early warning sign of this type of woman…

    When you get ill does she…

    a) Take care of you in a loving, but non-overly bearing manner?

    Or

    b) Does she call everyone she knows to tell them how sick you are so that She gets Sympathy from everyone…she thrives on you being ill so that she can get everyone to call her to ask about you which ends up turning into asking about her taking care of you….

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    • on February 3, 2012 at 1:04 am old guy, lower case

      +1

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  56. on February 2, 2012 at 3:07 am Neecy

    blockquote>. Save your love and commitment for the relatively sane chicks. You give your heart to a drama queen and attention whore like Penelope Trunk and you are asking for a world of emotional torment if you don’t know anything about the proper handling and care of such spaztastic specimens.

    😎 OMG — I am so proud of you Heartiste for saying this!! YAY!!!!

    I just spent 5 hours on Tues. night with an old Doc friend who has been ravaged financially, emotionally and mentally by such a woman. To be fair he had been married to her for over 30 years and his wife only recently in the last 4 years had her BPD come to surface in which she went completely BATSHIT and literally tried to completely ruin his life, her father’s and brothers by lying and saying they abused her. this man could have lost his medical license among EVERYTHING else he lost – I am not making light of this illness, but some women do take advantage of that and try to blame the crazy and evil shit they do on the illness..

    Still its a great lesson for men who tend to like to be a “Captain Save a Ho” to women they already know suffer from BPD or the crazies. Stay away!

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 11:04 am Aaron

      Such people are totally selfish and very manipulative. They can’t blame the illness. That’s just them being manipulative again trying to make their victims feel guilty so they’ll continue putting up with their shit. If the illness has that much control over them then why is it so often only those very close to them they abuse and not everyone they meet? Also, if a mental illness/disorder genuinely means they can’t control their behavior then that’s what institutions are for, to keep people on watch who are dangerous to others and themselves.

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      • on February 3, 2012 at 1:55 am Neecy

        Very true Aaron. Manupulative is the core of a woman with this issue. if you could hear the things this man told me about what she did – insane (like “trying” to kill herself 4 times). uh yeah if someone really wants to kill themselves it won’t take 4 tries to do it. I believe they use their illness as a crutch and excuse to be manipulative sociopaths. And you also made a very good observation that these border line personality chicks and people only seek to hurt and destory people close to them.

        But often times people close to them ENABLE this behavior by responding to it or rewarding it in some fashion, so….

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  57. on February 2, 2012 at 7:54 am The LP 999

    Awesome post.

    I’m familiar with her work and don’t care for her melodrama’s. I feel…sorry for her.

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  58. on February 2, 2012 at 8:26 am spimmortal

    I think the chateau whiffed on this one.

    She may be bipolar, borderline personality, whatever. The one thing that she is is an Ira Glass level serial liar.

    I read her 9/11 article, it’s a total fabrication, full of vague details, impossible happenings and improbable schmaltz.

    It doesn’t make sense to consider her writing at face value.

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 6:50 pm uh

      “It doesn’t make sense to consider her writing at face value.”

      Not to readers like us. But Heartiste is a writer, and seems to appreciate her as a sort of bizarro-Heartiste of comparable talent.

      Penelope Trunk is not our people. Not our race, not our culture, not our kind. The rest is a consequence of this one fact.

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  59. on February 2, 2012 at 8:37 am Danger

    I dated a BPD nut-job for awhile. First three months were bliss, and then a slow decay into the lowest layer of hell that is still under construction.

    I can tell you from that experience, and from watching her and other now-identifiable BPDs that these women are not trainable as XSplat said above.

    These women are the male version of psychopaths. Bat-shit crazy and incapable of any sort of relationship. The only way to win is to walk away and find someone who is not satan’s daughter.

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 11:19 am Sidewinder

      Here here. They are psychopaths. There’s no two ways about it. Absolute lack of empathy and self-awareness. Not selfishness or self-centeredness. Complete unawareness/blindness.

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      • on February 2, 2012 at 5:22 pm Tyrone

        @sidewinder: I’m glad someone else knows its “here here” and not “hear hear.” Maladyetz! You get a gold star for class today.

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      • on February 2, 2012 at 6:03 pm Lara

        Wikipedia says the exact opposite. It is supposed to be a shortened version of “hear him, hear him”.

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  60. on February 2, 2012 at 9:42 am Craig

    “I live alone with a BPD mother. Any advice?”

    Yeah, when you turn 18 years old, leave and don’t go back. Cut off all links to her, because she will use every mutual acquaintance you two have. She’ll tell them how much she loves you, and can’t understand why you two don’t talk about it. She will use every socially-accepted method of coercion to get you back. Don’t.

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  61. on February 2, 2012 at 10:29 am Matador (with a kickass new f'in avatar)

    The reason why women prefer egocentric douchebags:

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/01/120131210259.htm

    “Testosterone Makes Us Less Cooperative and More Egocentric”

    The almighty testosterone. It’s like graal for chickbrains. Yin, yang and all that shit…
    Raise your T levels by the usual means, and when in doubt, think about what an egocentric douchebag would do, and do it.

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  62. on February 2, 2012 at 11:22 am Rufus T. Harlemberry

    If you find yourself, like The Farmer, already sucked into a relationship with a BPD person, Heartiste’s reply to Berg is correct that it’s too late for Game to help you. Now you need to think about salvaging your life and the lives of your kids if you have them. The advice to leave is true but never as easy as that. Something that rarely gets addressed is that the other person in a relationship with a BPD often has emotional problems on par with the BPD person. My point is you will need help to get out of this situation. If you just wait for circumstance to set you free, you will be waiting a long time. Meanwhile the risk and drama just keeps piling up.

    If you are in one of these relationships or find yourself drawn to them, get help. A place to start is http://gettinbetter.com/needlove.html. That article talks about why a person is drawn to people with BPD. Start there and read into the rest of the site to get an understanding of what it’s like to live with a BPD person.

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  63. on February 2, 2012 at 11:41 am MichaelC

    There’s a woman, Erin Pizzey, who founded the first battered women’s shelter in Britain back in the 70’s. She had a chance to observe these women for years and wrote a book about it.

    One observation she had was that certain women are addicted to adrenaline. They get a rush out of danger. The specific game they play is seeing how close to the edge they can push the men in their lives. It’s a self-destructive addiction which I think is similar to compulsive gamblers — they’re not happy unless they’re playing the game and getting a rush from the risk.

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 2:42 pm mavala (wife & mother)

      I have no problem believing this. I used to think abused woman=victim. But then my best friend enter a totally abusive relationship with a married man and I realised how similar to a drugaddict she was (e.g. asking to sleep on a friend’s couch so that he couldn’t find her at her place and then sneaking out of the friend’s place to meet him). I now believe that most (if not all) abused women are (at least partially) responsible for their situation and I have litlle pity for them.

      [heartiste: here’s an ugly truth feminists will NEVER confront because to do so would put the lie to their carefully cultivated asinine beliefs: many women are enablers of domestic abuse.]

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      • on February 2, 2012 at 4:24 pm Tmason

        [heartiste: here’s an ugly truth feminists will NEVER confront because to do so would put the lie to their carefully cultivated asinine beliefs: many women are enablers of domestic abuse.]

        Not just enablers, INSTIGATORS.

        The vast majority of the time a woman can just pick up her shit and leave. As a matter of fact, they don’t even need to pack their stuff.

        Just call their parents/aunt/whatever, say that they are staying there to get away from boyfriend / husband (no sane family member will turn down that request) and call that a day.

        But NOOO, “stockholm syndrome”, etc. etc.

        Funny how stockholm syndrome never afflicts a woman who is with a beta.

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      • on February 2, 2012 at 4:34 pm GeishaKate

        I too have come to ask not “how could that have happened to you” but “how could you have let that happen to you.” However, the big caveat here is that when you are isolated from others (as many abused are) and you don’t feel like there are people to help you (even thought there probably are) it can be very hard. People whose spirit is broken can’t logically be expected to stand up for themselves. That’s where an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. End it before it even gets the chance to go there. There are patterns to these types of relationships and if you’re in the initial stages, something in the problem must change in order to result in a different outcome.

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  64. on February 2, 2012 at 12:46 pm John Norman Howard

    Bipolar, bi-losing… I wax nostalgic for the day when words simply meant what they meant, and it was referred to as female hysteria.

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  65. on February 2, 2012 at 1:16 pm hoffmann

    Exactly. Her real career is making money out of bullshit. For a career advisor, her own job history (what can be confirmed anyway) is an utter train wreck. She stays with the farmer because she’s broke and unemployable, the exact opposite of what she claims. From her site: “Her career advice appears in 200 newspapers.” My ass.

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  66. on February 2, 2012 at 1:19 pm College Grad

    “Borderline personality disorder is the scientific term for attention whoring…”

    Meh. I’d say Histrionic Personality Disorder is more accurate.

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  67. on February 2, 2012 at 1:53 pm PUA_Rochester

    “Of course, the solution is always temporary, and the cycle repeats. Which is exactly how she wants it. And she gets it.”

    I don’t like it any more than you men.

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  68. on February 2, 2012 at 2:10 pm Maya

    “Autism is just an extreme manifestation of nerdiness. (And BPD is an extreme form of sociability.)”

    lol, i think i have both … if this is possible …

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 7:37 pm King A's Bastard Son

      Who cares?

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  69. on February 2, 2012 at 2:13 pm Patrick

    While I agree with much of this analysis, and of course second the thorough berating Ms. Needs-junk-in-her-Trunk gets, I think her BPD is being augmented by a lifelong hormone issue which has simultaneously masculinized her physique and possibly increased her aggression. TLP is way off-base in calling her “obviously pretty”.

    She’s quite a specimen:

    – Extremely broad shoulders, on par with most grown men (search youtube for her).

    – She reports her height as 5’9.5″ — putting her in the top 95th percentile of American women, according to the CDC.

    – Long, lean man arms (look at her Twitter account).

    – Strong jaw and large, wide nose.

    – Aforementioned depiction of boyish flat ass.

    It all adds up to a stark lack of femininity in form. She’s built like a goddamn Marine drill sergeant.

    Combined with her hyperfeminine neurosis this makes for a terrible cocktail of batshit crazy and frightening. It’s no wonder that even her beta husband pushed her ando-ass away, nobody would feel comfortable with a nearly six foot, broad-shouldered man screaming in his face, much less a wild-eyed crazy bitch of the same stature trying to “find closure” at 4am.

    On top of this, Trunk has admitted to having two miscarriages (as well as two abortions, you know, for her “career”). This indicates to me that her body’s not terribly well-suited for carrying children, but her masculinized sex-drive is working overtime tor keep her loaded up with sperm to compensate. Hence the attention whoring.

    Penelope Trunk is the Caster Semenya of attention whore blogging.

    [heartiste: interesting analysis. i wonder how many one night stands she’s had?]

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 2:30 pm D

      Just a couple. She’s not very social and terrible at reading body language.

      And she has a hot body. Maybe a little athletic, but not unattractively so.

      [heartiste: i haven’t seen a good resolution pic of her, so i’m taking the word of commenters here about the femininity or masculinity of her body. one face shot i saw makes me think she was around a 7 or 7.5 in her prime. which is not bad at all. her ass is flat and the first lines of underass wrinkles are beginning to crevasse, but she’s slender and for her age group that fact alone puts her in the top 20% of attractiveness. thank you obese america.
      from what we know about her, based on her own ascii scribblings and now your claim that you once dated her, it looks like she is both an aspie and a hyperfemale BPD case. that is quite the handful. is that why it ended between you two?]

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      • on February 3, 2012 at 12:28 am D

        Basically. She was the one who broke it off, but we had already had a couple tiffs that were a harbinger of much worse if we had stayed together.

        As others have suggested, her personality type is incredibly attractive and she is quite bright.

        One thing about female Aspies: their lack of tact can actually work in their favor. When an Aspie man says something inappropriately sexual, it’s creepy. When an Aspie woman does, it’s hot.

        And in nonsexual matters, her willingness to say whatever comes to mind sets her apart as the person who says what everyone else is thinking.

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 3:37 pm Aaron

      Mixing a whole lot of estrogen with a whole lot of testosterone is a volatile formula. Female neurosis and insecurity expressed through male dominance and aggression.

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      • on February 10, 2012 at 5:41 am Anonymous

        I was with a Bpd person for almost 3 years, 6 engagements, she ended it Via text. Almost 1 year now, still drives me crazy

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 3:48 pm Patrick

      Dozens I’d bet. Considering she’s 45, a former pro vollyball player, has two abortions, her two kids aren’t the children of the man she’s living with now, she formerly wrote women’s lit porn, and looks the way she does.

      This woman’s a wretched mess.

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  70. on February 2, 2012 at 2:21 pm Dont take no shit

    Had a BPD chick blow up on me once when I was younger. She started mouthing off, then kicking walls and throwing things. I took her purse and threw it off the balcony into the street below. Great non-violent way to make them leave quickly. Chicks will always rush after the purse.

    Locked the doors, prepared for siege defense. Luckily I had a few potted plants around so I could dump dirt on her when she threw a screaming hissy fit in the street.

    Aww..the look on her face. It’s kinda fun to outpsycho the psycho. My roommates thought it was hilarious. I couldn’t stop laughing at her the whole time. She never bothered me again. Just remembering it now brings back a wistful smile..

    Remember, they’re just big babies throwing tantrums. They don’t know how to fight. They’re no threat. Don’t get violent. Smile and enjoy torturing their soul a little more.

    [heartiste: out-psychoing a psycho is one way to handle them. toy with them like they’re playthings, it drives them to uncontrollable fits. great fun in public. i used to date a psycho who kept threatening to kill herself. I would throw her a bottle of pills and tell her to get on with it.]

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 4:19 pm Tmason

      [heartiste: out-psychoing a psycho is one way to handle them. toy with them like they’re playthings, it drives them to uncontrollable fits. great fun in public. i used to date a psycho who kept threatening to kill herself. I would throw her a bottle of pills and tell her to get on with it.]

      Don’t know about all that. If a suicide actually occurs and evidence points to you taunting that person….

      Hell no.

      I like your dread advice much better. Just be indifferent to it and show you have options on the ready.

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      • on February 2, 2012 at 6:20 pm m

        Dread doesn’t work on someone with BPD. Nothing works. The one I dated knew I had a beautiful woman contacting me all the time. She flipped out when she found out I was emailing her (just as friends…no interest) All it did was make her go into a dramatic display. Of course she amped it up to win my approval just like any other whore but it didn’t change her core. You cant change or mitigate these women, and it’s a huge male folly to attach your ego and narcissism to the outcome of changing a woman. It’s like the thought process is “Im different and special like she says I am and therefore I can change her and it seems to be working! This is amazing!” This is a serious trap that many men fall into due to our chivalrous nature.

        These women don’t change. Ever. Trust me on this. If you see these traits, either just have some awesome sex and bolt. It probably isn’t even worth it. Find someone who is relationship material and isnt a pain in the ass and focus on gaming her. Let a ho be a ho.

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      • on February 2, 2012 at 11:17 pm Diomedes

        Wise words.

        Instilling dread will not work on these women. They embrace the cold of such tactics and then feel warmth rushing through their skin. A typical girl reacts to CH’s example of answering the phone with other women present by feeling insecure, uncertain and then acting as best she can to appease you. A messed up BPD case will threaten to cut your bollocks off or come down to where you are and make a scene or flagrantly cheat to get you back. All the while getting off on the drama and using it as story fodder to elicit sympathy from others.

        You cannot tame girls such as these. Walk away at the first sign of trouble.

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      • on February 3, 2012 at 1:36 pm Anon

        The natural habitat of such females is in captivity like a wild animal in an alpha’s harem.

        But since building a traditional harem is legally and financially impossible these days, their destiny is to ride the cock carousel, chew up and spit out a bunch of betas, and finish their lives alone like wounded tigresses.

        They are the ultimate short-term fling. But as previously said, marrying them or knocking them up is a one way ticket to hell.

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      • on February 3, 2012 at 4:34 am xsplat

        Exactly.

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  71. on February 2, 2012 at 2:50 pm Whatever

    Science marches on:

    http://www.thejanedough.com/overweight-men-earn-more/

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  72. on February 2, 2012 at 3:49 pm Matador

    “Sociopathic males are typically charming, charismatic, promiscuous, and deceitful. Histrionic females are skilled at exaggerating their needs to desired males while masking their true promiscuous nature. They often seek to control their partner through emotional manipulation. Histrionic females manipulate others to gain nurturance whereas sociopathic males manipulate others for material gain.”

    http://www.ulm.edu/~palmer/AntisocialandHistrionicPersonalityDisorders.htm

    Yep, hyperfemales indeed. “True promiscuous nature” is the key expression here. You can’t trust a HPD/BPD.
    I had a couple of them. They’re fun to play with (and the smell thing is totally spot on), but I kept my emotions in check because I was aware of their slutty past. And even before CH, I used to intuitively avoid turning hos into housewives.

    Lucky me. But y’all gotta stay clear of psycho bitches.

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 6:25 pm m

      The one I got involved with accused her ex of molestation of their daughter TWICE! The first time he was cleared of any wrongdoing and they reconciled and she moved back in with him. The second time was right after she filed for divorce and used it as leverage in court. The level of detail was incredible as she was very much an expert in confabulation (means she truly believes her own lies) These women are very very very smart as well as manipulative. They will lie and deny it to the death. They have been doing it since they were toddlers. They were trained by their freakazoid alcoholic mothers how to whore it up to get what they want. They are the unchained feminine id in action. Nothing will make you feel more idiotic than getting sucked into their madness.

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  73. on February 2, 2012 at 4:09 pm Drib

    I have never heard of this chick before, but from what I can glean it sounds like she is a high functioning Courtney Love. The poster child of crazy bitches. My band opened for “Hole” a couple of times back in the day, and from the short time I spent around her I am amazed Cobain didnt pull the trigger sooner.

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  74. on February 2, 2012 at 4:59 pm Anon

    I think TLP might actually be female. I remember a passing reference, but I’m not sure where on the site I found it.

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  75. on February 2, 2012 at 5:02 pm Obstinance Works

    Some of this emotional retardation between couples is due to the fact that after they orgasm the woman or the man have elevated levels of prolactin with causes mood swings. You will see a women act like she is on her period and she will look like a beauty queen one day and an ugly dog the next.

    The way to deal with this is to have sexual activity without orgasm more than usual. Orgasm causes the rise in prolactin and some women have a disorder where it is too high. Masturbation is way worse for prolactin in men at least that I know, but probably in women too common sense tells me.

    If you are a sex addict like I am you may be having too much sex with orgasm or masturbating too much.

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  76. on February 2, 2012 at 5:14 pm johnsondumb

    Will this blog address explicitly the problem of white girls hooking up with black guys and the (perceived) increase in the frequency of this? It’s easy enough to figure out why this is happening (if it’s actually happening and not exaggerated) from the rest of the things said but this stuff has never been dealt with explicitly at the chateau I think. It seems like it’s no longer just fat girls but it’s become a fashion to hook up with black guys on college campuses even for hot girls, etc. I’m asking because one can take many lines on this for example that it’s media/fashion driven (Hollyweird trying to portray white guys as effeminate and black guys as sexy or whatever) or that it’s sociological (upper-middle-class white guys/swpl are actually a bunch of pussies) or that it’s mostly biological so anyway this is a touchy subject but thought I’d ask. My own view is that current sexual market places white guys at a distinct disadvantage.

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 5:22 pm PUA_Rochester

      Why do you give a shit? Up your inner and outer game, make yourself available, and your question becomes magically moot.

      Have you every thought about approaching an attractive black girl? They do exist and must be fun. Their asses are indeed incredible (hooked up with one, never gone all the way though).

      [heartiste: black girls’ lips were invented to give succulent blowjobs.]

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      • on February 2, 2012 at 6:28 pm m

        Black girls love clean cut white guys who look like they have some cash. It is very easy to hook up with one if you want. Would love to bang a hot Ethiopian like Bagheera the porn star but they are pretty rare. Im not attracted to the average black American woman because their attitudes are shit.

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      • on February 3, 2012 at 8:55 am Tyrone

        They aren’ very pretty either. Sorry, black dudes can’t have our women because they have nothing to trade in return.

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      • on February 2, 2012 at 6:34 pm johnsondumb

        It’s relevant to the things discussed here and I’d like to hear the writer’s take. As for why I care, it’s something to know about even if it doesn’t touch me personally. But you’re fooling yourself if you don’t think it touches a lot of guys personally. And if the market is skewed, yes it does affect you unless you’re a super-alpha.

        As for black girls, I’m not interested and neither are most white guys.

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      • on February 2, 2012 at 6:47 pm n/a

        neecysnest.wordpress.com

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      • on February 3, 2012 at 8:54 am Tyrone

        No it doesn’t because you still have white girls who can no longer be useful to white men because they have mixed coffee with the cream. That shit needs to be slapped down hard. I dump girls forthwith if they have been screwing negroes. Then take a long hot shower.

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      • on February 3, 2012 at 2:33 pm John Norman Howard

        Agreed… if your goal is just to be out for yourself and screw the living shit out of whatever you can, then that’s your bag and your karma.

        If, however, you’d like to see women who look like your people still around for your grandsons to bang and marry… especially that gold standard of the European White woman… and you seriously consider it important that there be a future for White children, well… enough of this “why do you care” bullshit.

        True White alphas aren’t merely life support systems for a penis… they care about their race and the continued existence thereof… and don’t gladly countenance men of other races lewdly pursuing our women.

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 5:45 pm Obstinance Works

      More white guys are pussies. Homosexuality is more accepted in white society. I never hear white guys complain they can’t get black girls but I do hear black guys crying how white girls don’t like them.

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      • on February 5, 2012 at 1:19 am ow

        Notice the trend in mixed NBA players. The dads are always black ex-NBA players or in Jokham Noah’s case a professional tennis player and a white super model. The black man’s dream is a beautiful white woman to raise his gene team. Bye angry black woman.

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 6:13 pm uh

      – Hollyweird / thug anti-kulchur
      – blacks’ low impulse control / lower intelligence
      – utterly degraded mores
      – weak families, slut daughters

      mind you, very few of those white girls will marry their sooty paramours. of those who do, fewer will survive the union than will not.

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 6:51 pm Anonymous

      Only cuckold fetishists are obsessed with this interracial paranoia crap.
      Chicks go for black males if they have swagger and game. And they go for white males if they display the same alpha qualities.

      Up your game, get some pussy, and stop whining.

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      • on February 3, 2012 at 7:06 am C

        This.

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    • on February 2, 2012 at 7:13 pm Anonymous

      Besides, sluts are sluts, regardless of their racial preference.

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    • on February 3, 2012 at 8:56 am Tyrone

      You have to call them cheap whores to their faces.

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      • on February 3, 2012 at 5:43 pm askjoe

        Well, TLP pointed out that for whiggers, black men are the only “tough” role models for white teens, so that explains a lot of the stuff. Also, it’s why a lot of other white guys go the tits and tat route and wear affliction stuff. There aren’t many non-pussy tough guy role models for whites. And that may have some bearing on this issue.

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  77. on February 2, 2012 at 5:57 pm Simple Man

    Holy shit. I’m reading the description of an HPD female. Whoa.

    I just ended a 6-month relationship with a girl who is all that to a Tee. Man. This makes me even more glad I did.

    I think she’s with a dude 2 days after we broke up. Which means, she was prolly with him the whole time. Glad I know better what to look for. Thanks Heartiste and the rest of y’all.

    http://www.ulm.edu/~palmer/AntisocialandHistrionicPersonalityDisorders.htm

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  78. on February 3, 2012 at 6:02 am The LP 999

    Wait, what was I feeling sorry for? I try to have all this compassion for whining, emotional and endless talkers but I’m rethinking this…

    Me, me, me, i, i, i, whine, whine, whine with Irrational ramblings ain’t cool.

    It ain’t cool she took pictures of a bruise, demonized her husband who pays all the bills, aired her family laundry and revealed what a pain in the ass she is.

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  79. on February 3, 2012 at 12:12 pm Anonymous

    The part of this post about sex with a chick with BPD was on point. Definitely rings true for my life. Most insane, manipulative, drama queen bitch I was ever with was also the filthiest, nastiest most intense lay ever. She had all the typical background; father left at age 5, always fighting with her mom who never gave her enough attention, constantly seeking approval and acceptance, etc., but damn, it was hard to give up the sex. She sucked and swallowed on que (the car, a bar, wherever), let me stick it in her ass, wanted to get her hair pulled and dominated, everything. In the end I realized it all was not worth it, but it takes some strong will to come to that conclusion.

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  80. on February 3, 2012 at 2:35 pm namae nanka

    Googled her name, didn’t knew that it was this seemingly sensible career-blogging chick that I had first read from about two years ago. Wow, just wow.

    All this talk of BPD:

    And the most popular comment

    “So-called “borderline personality disorder” is just a medicalized excuse for the way most women behave.”

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  81. on February 3, 2012 at 4:30 pm Uncle Joe

    To think that this basket case has had numerous articles in mainstream publications…I guess it just goes to show how out of touch the mainstream media really is.

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    • on February 3, 2012 at 4:38 pm John Norman Howard

      The MSM isn’t really out of touch… they’re merely following the agenda of their puppet-masters, who want fly-over country to become as culturally and morally jejune as the two coasts, and who want to normalize this type of personality disorder into (best case) full acceptance/mimic or (worst case) sympathetic toleration by ‘regular folk’.

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      • on February 3, 2012 at 5:22 pm Uncle Joe

        Good point.

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  82. on February 3, 2012 at 11:47 pm Nicole

    I think some guys need the crazy. Non crazy is boring to them.

    Then again, maybe there’s something about not being crazy that is unfeminine.

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  83. on February 5, 2012 at 5:04 am Linkage is Good for You: Something or Other Edition

    […] “Fried Chicken Claws“, “I Only Date Rich Girls”Heartiste – “The Evisceration of Penelope Trunk”Danny from 504 – “Male Social Dynamics: Calling a Guy Out.”Elephant and […]

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  84. on February 5, 2012 at 6:41 pm Anonymous

    This comment is in no way a defense of Penelope Trunk, but one of her subsequent posts was this: http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2012/01/01/zero-tolerance-for-domestic-violence-is-wrong/

    …where she herself admits that she stays of her own volition and gets something out of situation. PT also espouses the view on her blog that women should make the most of their youth and looks in terms of getting married and getting contacts in the career world. she also advocates that older women get Botox and plastic surgery to maintain power in their personal and career lives. PT may be a crazy feminist, but she’s probably the one feminist whose advice most closely mirrors what is said on this blog….

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  85. on February 5, 2012 at 8:09 pm Racer X

    Vintage. Beautiful.

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  86. on February 27, 2012 at 5:01 am The Necessity of Domestic Violence

    […] bruise in the photo.This post is the equivalent of a Bond villain’s expository monologue. Penelope is thrashing her readers around like a potbellied hick thrashing his meth-head wife around the double-wide, and they just sit there […]

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