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February 5, 2012 by CH

William writes (in relation to the observation that asexual ghouls have a barely concealed hatred for “fuckhounds”):

It’s sad how society has beaten down male sexuality to the point where wanting sex is seen in the same light as being obsessed with sex.

Self-proclaimed (and self-celebrated) asexuals and feminists have a lot in common. The animating force for both is an intense loathing of male* desire.

*correction: straight male desire.

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  1. on February 5, 2012 at 10:19 am Thor

    Hah. The irony is that without male sexual desire, the
    whole system would break down – and not just because
    of the lack of children. The breakdown would be a lot
    faster than that.

    Thor

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    • on February 5, 2012 at 10:58 pm Matt

      True dat. Male sexual desire is one of the main drivers of productivity and progress. I know that if I was asexual I wouldn’t be going to college (because I wouldn’t care about making money), I would be perfectly content working a menial 7.25/hour job for the rest of my life, would get fat and wear sweat pants, and do nothing in my free time but watch NFL Network and FOX News, live to 80 (or more likely 60 because I would just eat fast food everyday) and die.

      The need for pussy drives me to succeed.

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 2:32 pm Libertardian

        My work ethic has decreased substantially since the days when I naively thought working hard and having a good job would get me laid. I SHOULD be just as driven now that all I give a shit about is my own success for its own sake, but I guess evolution wins again.

        Somewhat OT, I just went to the store and was confronted by no less than four different magazine covers all plastered with Demi Moore’s sad face and telling me how miserable/fucked up/lonely/whatever she is. The vagina media must have called an emergency meeting to “Save Demi”.

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 4:48 pm Ben

        This is a good topic for a chateau post.

        When you can get as much poon as you like living in a shitty apartment and making peanuts from odd jobs, why work harder? I also understand the moral aspect, but it’s hard to look beyond it when, as I’m now just realising, the motivation to work / study to begin with was super high quality poon.

        Post counter culture regression, what need hath the alpha to strive for financial gain like he did before? Especially when you get more poon than your fellow grads ever will and work 1/20th of the time.

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      • on February 7, 2012 at 2:18 am ow

        Like Carl from Aqua Teen Hunger Force.

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 8:35 am MichaelC

      Civilization is propped up by men’s desire for sex and children. A man will work hard to become economically successful in order to be able to attract a good woman, and to provide for children that he can be confident are his.

      Take away the above desire, and what incentive does a man have to work any harder than he needs to in order to pay for a small room, some ramen and pizza, and an XBox?

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      • on February 7, 2012 at 7:51 am Anon

        Correction:
        “to become economically successful in order to be able to attract A LOT OF ATTRACTIVE WOMEN”

        That’s what evolution programmed us to look for: spread our seeds.
        Monogamy and providing for one particular woman is a cultural adaptation that happened to be efficient for building a civilizational order.

        The natural thing to do for men is to let testosterone drive them and build a harem. The natural thing to do for a woman is to join such a harem.

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  2. on February 5, 2012 at 10:22 am Anon

    Man wants sex = creepy, obsessive, needy, tiresome

    Woman wants sex = empowered, liberated and in control of her sexuality!

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    • on February 5, 2012 at 1:11 pm bob

      Man wants sex = human civilisation as we know it.

      Feminist wants sex = 10 years of pump-and-dump, followed by life with cats. And not one stone would be set upon another.

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    • on February 5, 2012 at 3:15 pm Anonymous

      dont forget that if she doesnt want sex, thats also empowering and you need to respect her decision.

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 1:41 pm Anon

        “It’s sad how society has beaten down male sexuality to the point where wanting sex is seen in the same light as being obsessed with sex.”

        What exactly is “society”?

        Brown folks? White Walmart folks?

        Women in those “societies” seem to love men and sex. They all have 4 or more kids by the age of 22 to prove it.

        What about college co-eds? They have no problems slutting it up with “sex-obsessed”, drunken frat boys. They have the abortions that prove it.

        I personally don’t know any “asexual” girls, and I’d wager most people don’t either. But of course, the media gets a hold of an asexual couple and then spews it all over the world.

        Maybe its the media and the people who control it that needs to be directly attacked, and not these non-issues.

        Here’s the deal:

        The internets are generally OVER-REPRESENTED with ugly chicks (a.k.a. feminists) and nerdy guys. Looking at the internets, by itself, you’d think that everyone has a negative view of men and women and sex.

        The internets are sort of an extension of the media, which reflects ONLY the view on a minority. But the internets and media consume a disproportionate amount of attention, and it seems like they are reflecting the entire world’s opinion, which is FALSE.

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 2:27 pm Thor

        Bah, humbug. If somebody, male or female, does not
        want sex, that’s a personal decision (or inclination),
        nobody should have a problem with that. But any claim that
        sexuality is BAD per se (male or female) is garbage –
        nothing would work without it.

        Thor

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  3. on February 5, 2012 at 10:37 am j-style

    “The animating force for both is an intense loathing of male desire.”

    Or, in the case of feminists, that it isn’t directed at them.

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  4. on February 5, 2012 at 10:49 am Maya the troll

    In my case (when I was an asexual feminist) it was more fear than loathing.

    But I felt disgust, too. That’s how it is. It’s not that you want to feel it, you just feel it … Some men are repulsive. And it’s not just me. ALL women feel like that.

    I think there is a big difference in how men perceive women and how women perceive men. Seems that men only feel lust or have no interest, but we feel either lust or disgust.

    [heartiste: nope. men feel disgust too. we are repulsed by fat and ugly women. old women tend to elicit indifference unless we’re imagining sex with them, which turns the indifference into disgust.]

    We probably need disgust to protect us from unsuitable men.

    [as do men from low fertility fat and old women and ugly women who would give us ugly daughters.]

    We’d lose so much if we had sex with an inappropriate mate … Men don’t lose anything.

    [no. men have *less* to lose by mating with a she-beast than a woman has by mating with an omega, but they still have something to lose, particularly if cultural norms to monogamy are strong. and mating with a woman who has a low chance of delivering a healthy baby is a waste of a man’s time, from an evolutionary pov.]

    So I believe this is the reason why we sometimes loathe male desire.

    [solipsism. self-absorption. projection. and envy. these are the reasons that feminist loathing reaches beyond typical non-feminist female loathing for omega and beta males. plus, some daddy issues.]

    (To be honest, the most intense disgust I ever felt in my life was directed against a man. It was so intense that I couldn’t eat and I felt like vomiting several times a day for months … I found it strange but I remember how happy I was that my brain tried to protect me with this intense disgust).

    [your trolling disgusts me. seriously.]

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    • on February 5, 2012 at 10:57 am demirogue

      Maya, women do have sex with inappropriate men. It’s why Section 8, WIC, EBT, public schools and the abortion mills are such a resounding and financial success. If you call the current SMP progress because of female choices, you should lay off the smoke.

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      • on February 5, 2012 at 11:29 am Suz

        Fear may be real, but it can be overcome. Disgust for inappropriate mates is natural to both genders. Using either to justify your indoctrination and to paint yourself as “normal,” is the work of a busy hamster. Stop feeding yours meth.

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      • on February 5, 2012 at 11:59 am demirogue

        It’s not indoctrination. It’s reality. And for you not to be taken aback by “progress”, maybe it’s because your hamster is rationalizing the choices of “women” in regards to inappropriate men. When you judge men on such dependable and reliable indicators as tattoos instead of character traits and ethics, it shows just how unstable women really are. Look at it this way, oral sex with women is now thought to the lead to more mouth and throat cancers than anything else and that in itself is truly disgusting. And as the men who are getting those cancers becomes clearer, I guarantee you that most will have one common identifying feature and that’s the tats that went along with their bad boy image. Certain of it.

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      • on February 5, 2012 at 12:24 pm Suz

        My apologies, demirogue. I meant my reply for Maya, not you. However, regarding reality vs. indoctrination, it is a reality, one born of indoctrination. When I was young, feminism was still being overtly taught to the unwashed masses. A generation later it doesn’t need to be taught because it is now normal. “Traditional” Jane Q. Public thinks feminists are all ugly lesbian radicals. Jane doesn’t even realize she herself is a feminist. And her brother John doesn’t realize he’s one as well.

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 5:39 pm Pulsotic

        I love your comment. I think a lot of people might have missed the profound insight within it. That sounds sarcastic, but I’m actually serious. Feminism has so permeated our culture that most people can no longer ponder sexual topics without first filtering it through their feminist dogma. And as you said they don’t even realize it because they don’t truly know how it was before. I work with an elderly demographic and have been told of how it was. I’ve had older women (80’s) complain that feminism ruined things. And most people think their grandfathers were crazy for being dominant men and not changing diapers or putting up with BS.

        On a similar note, at a party Sunday my girl says having a massage by two people was on her bucket list. I countered that having 4 women sucking me off at the same time was on mine. Beta guy, who’s eyes were darting in his girl’s direction apprehensively, says, “Good thing she didn’t hear you or she’d give you hell.” So I said it louder.

        Slightly OT, but big thanks to feminism for making my ‘competition’ such pushovers. And I will be bangin’ his girl.

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      • on February 5, 2012 at 11:55 am Thor

        Circular, or something. “Inappropriate” is context dependent.
        It used to be that an “inappropriate” man was a man
        with bad genes (e.g. sickly, stupid) BUT also a man
        unlikely to stick around and help raising the offspring.

        With the various support programs common in the Western
        world, the second requirement has receded. So today,
        if you are a below average woman (however measured),
        shacking up with a man who vastly outranks you is
        a reasonable strategy – and then you let the taxpayer
        (mostly provider betas) be the substitute husband.

        Thor

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      • on February 5, 2012 at 12:29 pm Suz

        “Inappropriate” is context dependent.”
        Man is it ever! We ladies have given ourselves permission to be “disgusted” by just about anything. We don’t need no stinkin’ reason!

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      • on February 5, 2012 at 4:57 pm Ben

        Another, genuine 24 k, gold comment.

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      • on February 5, 2012 at 4:01 pm uh

        dem swisha sweetz aint gon smoke deyselves!!

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 1:17 pm Samuel

        I think all the “disgust” amounts to mental issues from an immature mind.

        Its not normal, its not natural, and its not healthy.

        see a fucking doctor.

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      • on February 7, 2012 at 9:19 am Ed the Department Head

        This is exactly what I think everytime I read something Maya has posted.

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    • on February 5, 2012 at 11:17 am Days of Broken Arrows

      “We’d lose so much if we had sex with an inappropriate mate … Men don’t lose anything.”

      Except 18 years of their salary when they get hit with child support. Or years of their lives when they get hit with false rape claims. Hope everyone read the latest Dear Prudence column on the one-night-stand girl who wants to retroactively cry rape…and the comments from male and female feminists who believe she shouldn’t be questioned.

      http://www.slate.com/articles/life/dear_prudence/2012/01/hooking_up_drunk_should_my_friend_call_her_one_night_stand_a_rape_.html

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      • on February 5, 2012 at 2:02 pm Maya

        Hi,

        you’re right that men can lose 18 years of their salary etc. but I was speaking more from evolutionary point of view. In the past men could rape a woman and abandon her and her child without any consequences. Maybe this is an explanation why men still love to have no strings attached sex?

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 3:28 pm Anonymous

        i dare you to go back 12000 years,as a male, and rape a girl of the tribe you’re in.

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 4:28 pm Days of Broken Arrows

        Yes, you’re right. Complicated evolutionary reasons are the reason men like to have no-strings sex, not immediate sexual gratification and the need to release gobs of semen from their bulging, aching prostates and throbbing erections brought on by seeing female flesh.

        Bravo for understanding male biology!!!!

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      • on February 7, 2012 at 7:03 am Ian

        Dude, you’re retarded. Complicated evolutionary explanations explain *why* men find NSA sex sexually gratifying. We could just as easily be attracted to chick flicks, but we’re not because men who are beta struggle to pass on their genes. Read a fucking book.

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      • on February 7, 2012 at 2:10 pm Days of Broken Arrows

        Ian, I was being ironic. If you didn’t pick up the above was written facetiously, you’re retarded.

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      • on February 8, 2012 at 4:14 am Maya

        Days of B.A.,

        we know your comment was written facetiously – and that’s why we think you’re retarded.

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      • on February 7, 2012 at 9:50 am Maya

        With your comment, you just demonstrated that you don’t understand the theory of evolution.

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      • on February 5, 2012 at 5:51 pm Libertardian

        I’m amazed that (1) Prudence gave the answer she did, and (2) she wasn’t fired on the spot for it.

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 4:58 pm John Norman Howard

        Jewesses are a protected species… ‘though there by no shortage of ’em in the media…. meh.

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 8:13 pm Tyrone

        Prudie’s advice was fair and reasonable- don’t ruin a man’s life because you need someone to blame for your alcohol problem. I was pleasantly surprised to read it actually. I expected a you go girl moment.

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    • on February 5, 2012 at 12:31 pm Anon

      (To be honest, the most intense disgust I ever felt in my life was directed against a man. It was so intense that I couldn’t eat and I felt like vomiting several times a day for months … I found it strange but I remember how happy I was that my brain tried to protect me with this intense disgust).

      My guess would be that the object of this intense disgust was a socially acceptable, non-deformed, gainfully employed white male — i.e., a typical beta.

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 1:40 pm Maya

        what can i say?

        i’m sad we have to read comments like yours.

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 4:59 pm John Norman Howard

        Maya’s a Negro, if memory serves… it was probably a Famous Amos kind of dude, but without the cookies.

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    • on February 5, 2012 at 12:33 pm Anon

      We probably need disgust to protect us from unsuitable men.

      [as do men from low fertility fat and old women and ugly women who would give us ugly daughters.]

      Happily, nature provides us with very effective protection against sex with such disgusting, unsuitable creatures — no boner!

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    • on February 5, 2012 at 1:52 pm Maya*L*O*V*E*S*c.h.

      CH,

      Okay, you’re right, men should also be disgusted by inappropriate sexual partners, because they can, as you said, waste time and money and they can also catch an STD. But that’s nothing compared to what a woman can lose. And there is another difference: Woman can’t force a man to have sex with her while a man can rape a woman if he wants to (and I believe this was a common way to spread the DNA in the past). So for these two reasons the disgust women feel is intensive, mixed with anger, headache and a desire to grab a sharp object and kill the poor man. I wasn’t lying when I said it can cause a real physical nausea and even vomiting (btw. you remember this scene from Irreversible when Monica Bellucci is vomiting after the rape?)

      “[solipsism. self-absorption. projection. and envy. these are the reasons that feminist loathing reaches beyond typical non-feminist female loathing for omega and beta males. plus, some daddy issues.]”

      I haven’t been thinking about this, but now when I read it, it makes sense. I definitely hated my dad for leaving. I was afraid that all men are like that and also wasn’t able to forgive him anything. I still have problems with this, actually. Sometimes I feel like I would prefer to stay single because when you decide to be with someone – there is always a risk that he will leave you. And then you will feel alone and worthless again. It’s actually better not to fall in love – you can avoid being hurt. Envy makes sense as well, but self-absorption, solipsism and projection … I don’t understand. By that, you mean that feminists don’t have any male friends and they don’t really know what men are like?

      “[your trolling disgusts me. seriously.]”

      I’m sorry. I don’t want you to feel disgust when you read my comments. What should I do? (Don’t say ‘stop trolling!’ because I still don’t know what does this word mean)

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    • on February 5, 2012 at 1:56 pm Maya

      CH,

      Okay, you’re right, men should also be disgusted by inappropriate sexual partners, because they can, as you said, waste time and money and they can also catch an STD. But that’s nothing compared to what a woman can lose. And there is another difference: Woman can’t force a man to have sex with her while a man can rape a woman if he wants to (and I believe this was a common way to spread the DNA in the past). So for these two reasons the disgust women feel is intensive, mixed with anger, headache and a desire to grab a sharp object and kill the poor man. I wasn’t lying when I said it can cause a real physical nausea and even vomiting (btw. you remember this scene from Irreversible when Monica Bellucci is vomiting after the rape?)

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    • on February 5, 2012 at 2:02 pm Fred Rotten

      @ Maya the troll:

      “In my case (when I was an asexual feminist)…”

      STOP RIGHT THERE.

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 1:58 pm Maya

        It’s my blog and I can write here whatever I want 🙂

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 3:05 pm Miss_Fu

        The virus asserts itself.

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 4:52 pm Ben

        Have you banged this groupie slut yet Heartiste? Would probably shut it up.

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  5. on February 5, 2012 at 10:52 am DirkJohanson

    So, true. I had an argument with my mother and grandmother after my mother referred to guys who go to places like Thailand for sex “sex addicts.”

    I said, “so its OK for women to go to Club Med and have sex with the French gigolos that work there – you cheer them for their ‘romantic vacation – but some poor shlub who wants to have sex for the first time in a year on his vacation is a ‘sex addict.'”

    Needless to say, I did not get through at all. I have “strange” ideas.

    Of course, this all demonstrates why, eventually, society simply takes control fo female sexuality by force. There is no reasoning with them, nor compromise.

    We need legal prostitution now – nothing else really matters for the interests of guys. Vote Ron Paul.

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    • on February 5, 2012 at 1:00 pm auto20003@gmail.com

      Dirk,

      Bingo.

      God, I hate losers who throw around the term ‘sex addict’ to describe anyone having more sex than they are.

      People who are addicted — booze or drugs, say — are compulsive. Compulsions cause distress and interfere with functioning. Addicts engage in lots of repetitive, rigidly performed behaviors to give themselves relief from psychological pain.

      I’m sexually impulsive. When it comes to pussy, I’m a five-year old in a candy store who isn’t leaving until he’s cleaned the place out. I’m happy as hell that I like girls as much as I do. My flaw is a minor one — I can’t easily resist desires that involve pleasure and gratification. I’ll confess that there are times when I should have said yes when the right answer was no.

      But saying yes to pleasure is not the same thing as being driven to reduce inner pain and depression.

      I remember whiny rightwingers bitching that Bill Clinton was a sex addict. Huh? Given the political price he paid, Bill should not let Monica suck him off. So fault him for bad judgment. But I seriously doubt that after Bill blew his load, he suffered from post-coital depression. More likely, he felt something along the lines of “it’s good to be president and I can’t wait to do it again.”

      That’s not how addicts think.

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    • on February 5, 2012 at 10:22 pm Tyrone

      Prostitution has always been a state and local matter of jurisdiction. Women don’t want legal prostitution for the very same reasons you do want it. I think it should be legal. American women live with a highly inflated sense of self worth, due to the general shortage of attractive women. Legal prostitution would keep them in check, reducing the market price of pussy to something closer to its true value, i.e. not inflated by internal protectionism.

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 2:33 pm Maya

        Disgusting. Prostitution should be illegal. SMV of a man who had sex with a prostitute is below zero. Man who makes love to prostitutes is 1000 times worse than female sluts. Actually, sleeping with prostitutes damages your SMV just as much as being a prostitute does.

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 2:51 pm cheshirecat

        Charlie Sheen would beg to differ.

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 3:09 pm MichaelC

        Wealthy men keep mistresses, without their SMV being reduced. What is the difference, other than the number of customers the woman services?

        Your statement about “man who makes love to prostitutes” betrays a fundamental lack of understanding about men. Men do not make love to prostitutes, they have sex with prostitutes. “Making love” involves a degree of emotional attachment.

        Women have difficulty being in a sexual relationship with a man they do not respect and admire (the whole “Alpha male” thing). For a man, it is not necessary that he love, respect, or admire a women in order to have enjoyable sex with her.

        This does not mean that men do not fall in love with women. It means that love and sex have greater separation in the man’s mind than in the woman’s.

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 3:56 pm Maya

        1. Sex for money = prostitution. doesn’t matter how many customers the woman services. paying for sex damages every man’s SMV regardless of his social/financial status.

        2. You’re disgusting.

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 5:01 pm John Norman Howard

        Every man pays for it, toots… one way or another.

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 6:08 pm Matt

        Its not disgusting. It’s liberating for both the men and women involved. The women can make more money than god and retire at age 30. And the men are liberated by being able to get sex easily, and relatively cheaply, no matter how ugly, beta, old, and without lowering themselves to playing womens’ games. Prostitution helps level the playing field, and most would even agree the occasional escort is a valuable edition to even the most Alpha man’s harem.

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 8:43 pm MichaelC

        A high percentage of women are prostitutes, or one form or another. They are attracted because the man is a high-earner, or dump him because he’s not earning enough to suit her. One friend’s wife dumped him when his business went bankrupt; another friend’s wife cheated on him with a higher-earning lawyer when friend’s career stagnated. The list of examples I could cite is long.

        Women complain bitterly over men dumping them when their looks fade — the flip side they ignore is the number of women always on the lookout for the “bigger better deal”.

        re: “you’re disgusting”: Thanks. I typically get that when I point out something that the woman is uncomfortable facing.

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      • on February 7, 2012 at 9:39 am Ed the Department Head

        Why would any man date Maya when he could simply pay an attractive legal prostitute for pleasure and get on with his life?
        Women in the West oppress men through anti-prostitution laws. This causes sexually hungry males to suffer so Ameripigs can inflate the prices of their sorry grade poon.
        We probably need a dictatorship that would establish Nevada style brothels in all 50 states and prevent the hags and sex hating social conservative scum from getting their way.

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 3:19 pm passingby

        ^ Ford screaming that Japanese imports should not be allowed.

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 5:58 pm Matt

        Lol maya, fear a little competition? Mad that $200-300 can replace 75% of women?

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 8:08 pm Tyrone

        Most women think its cool and want to know lurid details. Most women have zero idea of how prostitution really functions or how pleasant it can be. I usually have had good chats with the hookers I’ve been with. They’re usually honest about what and who they are. The smart ones have a lot of human knowledge. Too much Scandinavian propaganda I think.

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      • on February 7, 2012 at 9:56 am Maya

        No. You’re wrong.

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      • on February 8, 2012 at 3:20 pm Tyrone

        No I’m not. I’ve never once had a woman complain, react negatively, break up with me or even skip a beat sexually over the prostitution thing and we’re talking well into the double digits in the number of women as well.

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 3:55 pm Southern Man

        If prostitution were legal and safe I’d happily budget a couple-three hundred a month for once-a-week sex with a slender, hot professional and not spend another dime on dating.

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 12:13 pm Flavia

      You forgot, sex with a THIN woman. That’s all it really seems to boil down to.

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      • on February 8, 2012 at 3:16 pm Tyrone

        Thin is defined pretty broadly from what I gather.

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 2:58 pm carolyn

      you’re comparing apples and oranges, or rather you mom and grandmother are even if they failed to articulate what truly offended them. they’re likely conflating sex addiction with an objection to prostitution of a particularly degrading form. just saying.

      club med–both parties uncoerced.

      thai sex holiday–sex with semi-enslaved prostitute beaten if she shows insufficient enthusiasm on the job.

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 5:08 pm Anton

        Obviously, you’ve never been to Club Med…or Thailand…

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      • on February 7, 2012 at 7:40 pm King A's Bastard Son

        Child support from dumped Beta – financial enslavement; Beta thrown in jail, loses professional license, has passport revoked if he fails to pay the stealth alimony that is “child support.”

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  6. on February 5, 2012 at 10:59 am Trimegistus

    It’s part and parcel of the whole liberal project: just pick any aspect of normal human life. Now come up with a bizarre reversal of the normal human way of doing that. That bizarre reversal is the liberal ideal, and if you point out how bizarre and abnormal that ideal is, they’ll scream and shriek and call you names — when they can’t use the brute power of the state to silence or imprison you for disagreeing.

    People should keep what they create? Nope, that’s “greed.” Men and women should marry and have children? Nope, that’s “heteronormative oppression.” Art should be beautiful and enlightening? Nope, that’s “bourgeois kitsch.” Nations should protect their citizens and their interests? Nope, that’s “aggression” or “imperialism.”

    In this case: healthy adults desire sex. The response is entirely predictable.

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    • on February 5, 2012 at 12:25 pm auto2003@gmail.com

      The liberal project? What you’re describing is just a bunch of grad students and feminists circle-jerking in a college seminar. Who cares?

      Rick Santorum is running for president on a platform of using the brute power of the state to criminalize all sex that’s not a husband sticking his dick into his lawfully wedded wife’s pussy for purposes of procreation.

      Personally, I’m more worried that Santorum’s campaign will gain traction.

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 1:42 pm Anon

        Santorum is crazy, but anyone who believes his views will ever gain traction is batshit crazier.

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    • on February 5, 2012 at 1:23 pm bob

      It’s part and parcel of the whole liberal project: just pick any aspect of normal human life. Now come up with a bizarre reversal of the normal human way of doing that. That bizarre reversal is the liberal ideal

      That is one of the most brilliant generalisations of Liberalism I have ever read!

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    • on February 5, 2012 at 2:46 pm Tyrone

      Excellent post. This sums it up in a nutshell and illustrates why we should no longer pay attention to this nonsense.

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      • on February 5, 2012 at 2:47 pm Tyrone

        Its pseudo-intellectual attention whoring and nothing more.

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    • on February 5, 2012 at 3:57 pm uh

      All very well said. I am impressed.

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 12:20 am Ulf Elfvin

      The most bizarre (and disgusting) reversal is calling themselves “liberals”. Originally and logically that term means “pro-freedom”. They are anything but.

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 2:38 pm Thor

        Hah! Exactly, but the US has lived with this reversal for several generations.
        Now the Lamestream media have managed another swap,
        “blue” states are now the lefty ones and “red” the conservative or
        – heaven forbid – the libertarian-leaning states. They just wanted the
        red flag out from their socialistic opinions.

        And, Ulf, I appreciate you using your real name, which I recognize
        from another blog.

        Thor

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      • on February 9, 2012 at 8:45 pm Ulf Elfvin

        Which other blog, Thor? I don’t write that much.

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      • on February 10, 2012 at 10:27 am Thor

        I did not refer to any blog, just to the lamestream media.

        Thor

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 6:04 am Ian

      High intelligence is only possible through increased cognitive flexibility. That is, all the mental models that are fixed in normal people, such as social skills or visual-spatial skills, become more influenced by learning and less influenced by hard genetic coding. Also, the increased synaptic density of grey matter in smart people necessitates slower processing (see: absent minded professors who fail at fast-paced processing such as require by sports).

      Because our cultural elite generally gets there by being highly intelligent, this makes them susceptible to forming weird ideas that probably don’t make much sense. Of course, the scientific method was largely invented to prevent this sort of thing, but it’s awfully hard to apply it to highly complex stuff like social structures.

      Hopefully the evolutionary psychologists and political scientists (selectorate theory and game theory are actually getting quite good) hurry up and get some convincing hard answers soon.

      In the meantime we’ll just have to put up with people espousing selfish political beliefs and claiming that they’ve got incontrovertible proof behind them. Alpha males will keep pushing for right-wing social orders that disproportionately benefit them, beta males and females will push feminist arrangements that disproporionately benefit independence-minded women, nutjobs will push even stupider ideas just because they like to be different, and on average everyone will be worse off.

      Incidentally, I strongly believe that there isn’t an ideal social order. Yes, as a game practicing proto-alpha male, CH’s beliefs benefit me. Still, I hate to support them too much because I’d prefer to be intellectually honest about the fact that they do benefit me. Some people are gay. Some people are from racial groups that easily form Western-style cooperative political systems. Some people are socially retarded beta-males. I’d like to at least be honest with myself that CH’s politics would fuck them over for my benefit.

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 6:17 pm Thor

        “Because our cultural elite generally gets there by being highly intelligent, ”

        Hah. With some exceptions, the “cultural elite” is a giant echo-chamber,
        and you don’t have to be particularly smart to join it – although some are.
        Mostly, what is required is a strong dose of me-too-ism, echoing the
        agenda of the day.

        And no, alpha males do not, at least not necessarily, push right-wing
        social orders. Why should they? The government-financed femocracy
        suits many of them just fine….

        Thor

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      • on February 7, 2012 at 7:05 am Ian

        University staff are overwhelmingly liberal, and they played a huge role in initiating the feminist revolution. If you think you can survive in academia with a low IQ you’ve got rocks in your head.

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      • on February 7, 2012 at 5:40 pm Thor

        Right about “overwhelmingly liberal”. But wrong about IQ.
        Well, OK, there is probably some low minimum required,
        de facto, if not to get admitted, then probably to get a degree.

        But listening to college kids, and the recently graduated,
        (and the not so recently graduated)
        makes it obvious that not only don’t they know much in
        general, but usually they know very little about the
        field they have putatively studied. Just one example, from
        Answers.com:
        “Kerry then dropped out of politics for a time. Instead, he earned a law degree from Boston College in 1976”

        Then, at one of the debates, he says he would appoint Supreme
        Court justices that would interpret the constitution according
        to the law. (You would expect people with a law degree
        to know that the constitution governs
        other laws, NOT the other way round.)

        Of course, somebody can have a high IQ and still manage
        to not learn very much by majoring in football, or beer-drinking,
        or somewhat innocently because of the pap they teach….

        Thor

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      • on February 8, 2012 at 3:07 pm Tyrone

        Ian:

        you give them far too much credit. I would guess the average University professor has an IQ of between 120 and 130. Smart but not as smart as they like to think they are. I call them middle brow intellectuals. I made lefties cry often at Maxwell and enjoyed it quite a bit. Mostly they’re Marxist ideologues in the soft fields. Patriarchal male rule benefits the most people most often.

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  7. on February 5, 2012 at 11:02 am Markku Koponen

    “It’s sad how society has beaten down male sexuality to the point where wanting sex is seen in the same light as being obsessed with sex.”

    …unless it’s up a man’s ass, in which case it is suddenly normal.

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  8. on February 5, 2012 at 11:12 am Redleg

    Isnt it funny that while male sexuality is demonized, it’s also blamed for the rarity of female orgasm, as if the totality of female sexual difficulties are the fault of male ineptitude.

    Not only are we fuckhounds, gentlemen, but we’re bad in bed and selfish!

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    • on February 5, 2012 at 2:57 pm Tyrone

      Women instinctively seek to blame all of their problems on the men in their lives.

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    • on February 5, 2012 at 4:05 pm uh

      According to les femmes affranchis, if one is not rubbing one’s face in a woman’s bloody gash, one is “selfish”.

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  9. on February 5, 2012 at 11:36 am Emma the Emo

    I noticed that. Lots of comments saying that “sex is not that important” and “you are all sex-crazed maniacs”. I’m surprised by lack of understanding that people really do want and need sex, and it’s not something they can separate from romantic love.

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    • on February 5, 2012 at 12:02 pm Thor

      Actually, you are right about wanting sex. But the mechanism
      varies individually, and is in general different for men than for
      women, for evopsych reasons.

      Most women are uninterested in sex – at least most of the time –
      except as a package (real or sometimes imagined) with
      romantic love, commitment etc. (There is plenty of room
      for bitter disappointment here). Most men, OTOH, like
      these things, but are nevertheless OK with (read often
      eager for) casual sex.

      Your mileage may vary.

      Thor

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      • on February 5, 2012 at 1:05 pm PUA_Rochester

        Just like many instances in life, e.g., decisions, sex, politics, men have a better ability to apply reason without emotions coming into play. Probably because men tend to process better in their brains’ left hemisphere (home of logic, reason, problem-solving, etc.), whereas women tend to process equally well between both hemispheres (thereby allowing emotion and empathy to spill over into problem solving).

        http://www.mastersofhealthcare.com/blog/2009/10-big-differences-between-mens-and-womens-brains/

        I’m not saying one sex is better than the other, but, as Thor eluded to, women want the whole shebang if they proceed with coitus, whereas men are more able to segregate their feelings and emotions while bumping privates.

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 2:42 pm Thor

        Yup. The corpus callosum (the nerve bundle/data bus between the
        right and the left brain is 50% bigger in women. According to a
        psychiatrist: “This gives great powers of intuition – and horrible confusion!”

        (But OTOH, men have a much bigger corpus carvernosum.)

        Thor

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      • on February 5, 2012 at 1:21 pm Emma the Emo

        I meant to say that both sexual men and women want sex if there is romantic love. But men (and less often women) can do sex without romantic love.

        Romance with no sex: crap.
        Sex with no romance: can be good.

        Hope it’s clearer now 🙂

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 1:57 pm Maya

        No, Emma! Romance with no sex can be very beautiful * (example: me loving CH)

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 5:56 pm Pulsotic

        Why aren’t you banned yet?

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      • on February 7, 2012 at 9:33 am John Norman Howard

        For the same reason they don’t throw Chumley out of that pawn shop.

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      • on February 7, 2012 at 9:54 am Ed the Department Head

        CH, you might have the woman from Play Misty for Me on your hands.

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      • on February 7, 2012 at 10:03 am Maya

        Because CH likes me too. He’s Timmy and I’m Jenni.

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      • on February 5, 2012 at 1:31 pm bob

        Most women are uninterested in sex – at least most of the time – except with “alpha males”, defined as really rich, really famous, or guys who (through whatever means, including good looks and/or dark triad traits) induce gina tingle. Then they are plenty interested.

        It is only decent men who must provide the package deal, and they often find out (in divorce court) that the female urge to “alpha” cock continues.

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 2:52 pm Libertardian

        Bingo. We’re relearning this at the cost of unraveling civilization.

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    • on February 5, 2012 at 2:44 pm Survivorman

      Emma,

      Men WANT sex. Women NEED attention.

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    • on February 5, 2012 at 3:41 pm Firepower

      You need to do things to lure me back to your blog
      whenever i lose interest and depart
      your blog dies

      see what you can do

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    • on February 5, 2012 at 3:54 pm uh

      And yet it’s those liberal banshees creating blogs like this:

      http://sexisnottheenemy.tumblr.com

      Well, it is apparent that they use “asexuals”, as they would blacks, miniature greyhounds, or Hmong immigrants, as proxy for their fear of social limitations — the characteristic reflexive gesture of the spoiled urbanite: a limit here implies a limit there, upon them. Having no community of any sort beyond his limp-wristed circle of friends, his need to punish non-conformers is transferred to anyone of more rooted sensibility.

      Otherwise, behold the mawkish filth they revel in.

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    • on February 5, 2012 at 4:34 pm Sidewinder

      There’s definitely the tendency, especially with women for evo reasons, to seek emotional attachment with their sexual relationships. But I’ve had a couple legit FWB relationships given the circumstances that a relationship was just not possible, usually due to geography or a planned move (moving for school, moving from school, girl on study abroad, etc). These circumstances are rare but they are invaluable opportunities to see behind the female facade. and contrary to what some on here think about women, i’ve found that they are typically pretty cool when the relationship is off-the-record.

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 1:28 pm King A

      Well done, Emma. Your measured comments based on personal experience was a tonic over these last two posts, where we saw “ignorant armies clash by night.” We need more female commentary like yours, neither shrewishly invested in the feminagenda and completely missing the point, nor completely obeisant to the spastic PUA overreaction.

      Other women would do well to adopt your attitude. Not suck-up and slavish but committed to sussing out the truth of a complicated situation from a genuinely female point of view. The personal testimony is key. You have a frame of reference to know asexuality is neither quirky-kewl nor horrifically despairing, depending on the ideology one brings to it, and you showed an ability to articulate a difficult position.

      All the more important you represent this golden mean since my reply — wherein I set everybody straight over this issue, of course — was moderated into oblivion among the troll deluge of 650+ comments. (Seriously, which site linked that last post? It was positively hag bombed. That should be a case study in femme-troll bait.)

      ——————————
      P.S. re Heartiste’s tweet, I’m an irrational Patriots h8er. (If you’re a fan of any other team, irrational hatred is basically a requirement.) But Gisele’s behavior over the last few weeks has been exemplary feminine. Hot inside and out, through and through. Belichick is a mumbling homeless runt, but even I can only anathematize Dreamboat so much. Especially after he loses.

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 9:25 pm Obstinance Works

        I see you are still trolling for attention Burger King The Puritan.

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      • on February 7, 2012 at 7:46 pm King A's Bastard Son

        God is a superstition, and King A is a false prophet.

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  10. on February 5, 2012 at 12:10 pm GeishaKate

    @Thor: Hear, hear. But the system has already broken down. I’m sorry you men have the burden of righting the system, but there are women who are counting on you to do it!

    I came here because someone shared these words with me: “How relieved she finally is on her back, a strong hand binding her wrists above her head! No more burden, she can just be” (YES!!!) and promised that I would be put back in my rightful place with this: “You are hothouse flowers. You are our most precious of all objects, we protect you with everything we have, to the very last, with our very bodies if we must. We kill and we die for you. We launch a thousand ships because your beauty makes us weep. You and the kids get the lifeboat, we drown like men. You are the mothers of our children, the vessels of our immortality. It’s not a bad place to be. We need some small, official recompense for sacrificing all that we are to keep you there. Is it really so important you get to vote for county commissioner in next month’s primary? Forget what “game” has to say about pedestals. When the world is right-side-up again, you will be put back there. Let’s work to get you back there.”

    I’m here to support the above cause and do what I can to help. I just need to know how.

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 8:33 pm GeishaKate

      Hmm. I’m disappointed. Have I just been roped into reading rhetoric that is simply more sophisticated sophistry (is the chateau just a metaphorical monastery for mental masturbation?) or are the troops going to advance and actually DO something? Take up your arms, men! With a flash of your sword and a flash of your smile, go forth and conquer the world’s women. And people the earth with an old ideal. So that men can be proud to be men, and women can be proud to be women, and men can be proud of their women, and women can be proud of their men. And children can be proud of their parents and live in a world where normal is once again normal.

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      • on February 7, 2012 at 2:27 am ow

        Just worry over your own flashing sword. Let society catch up ten thousand years from now. The earth will not be around forever ya know.

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      • on February 7, 2012 at 12:49 pm GeishaKate

        Sound advice as neither will I be a size four forever 😉

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  11. on February 5, 2012 at 12:11 pm John Norman Howard

    The same people who say sex isn’t important just can’t wait to let the world know their sexual orientations (read: perversions).

    And the same people who decry the chateau family’s judgmentalism and mockery are the same people who cheer on the South Parks and Bill Mahers and other usual suspects when they judge/mock their favorite bete noires (read: anything White, straight male, and/or Christian).

    Mock them for their aberrations… hate them for their hypocrisy.

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 6:46 pm anonymous

      South Park bashes liberals as much as it does conservatives

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      • on February 7, 2012 at 9:36 am John Norman Howard

        I understand they tell an occasional Jew joke as well… meh.

        Next.

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      • on February 8, 2012 at 2:53 pm Tyrone

        In my opinion, they bash lefties about twice as much as conservatives. I think the two creators of SP are libertarians actually. Matt Stone is on the record as saying he really hates sanctimonious lefties. Cartman, my hero and role model in life, does tell a lot of Jewish jokes.

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  12. on February 5, 2012 at 12:12 pm This is Jen

    Markku Koponen
    “It’s sad how society has beaten down male sexuality to the point where wanting sex is seen in the same light as being obsessed with sex.”

    …unless it’s up a man’s ass, in which case it is suddenly normal.

    dead on!

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  13. on February 5, 2012 at 12:23 pm Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

    I believe it was Mencken who said that men should take wives out of pity for the poor creatures, but if he had lived to see what happened with feminism and the laws relating to alimony and child support, I bet he’d have changed his mind right quick.

    Me, I have no animus against male players, I wish them luck, I just don’t think today’s so-called women are worth the energy and investment.

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  14. on February 5, 2012 at 12:58 pm SetrakianBlades@hotmail.com

    Well the thing that is wrong about Asexuals is how extreme they are about asserting their celibacy. For instance many people throughout history have been celibate. However, none of them made a point to build an identity around it. Usually they were celibate for some religious or professional reason. However, they were not celibate for the sake of being celibate. Asexuals are the most boring & anti-human group in existence. They are perverts, and do not even know it. These people are obsessed with their celibacy to the point of making it the sole sum of their existence. It is ironic for a group that pretends to be not sexual, that they care more about sex than normal people do. They also likely think about sex more than normal people do to.

    It is funny Heartiste, you have become their Hitler. In addition to being perverted celibates; they are also furfags, weeaboos, & militant atheists. Only mega nerds are obsessed with pretending to be animals, anime, and atheism. They are the type of sheltered nerd that considers mocking them to be a hate crime. Their pretensious shaming & lazy psychoanalysis in their comments against you show they are mega nerds. I bet many of them will move on to vore after they get bored with being asexual.

    PS: Vore is another perverted nerd obsession. It is when people get aroused at the thought of being eaten or eating somebody else.

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  15. on February 5, 2012 at 1:06 pm Steel Diamondback

    Sex sells.

    We’re bombarded by more eroticized imagery currently than at any point in modern human history. For maximum wealth extraction, the monetary decisions need to be in the hands of the easily influenced, emotionally unstable, and those with poor impulse control.

    What better way to disenfranchise impressionable young men than launch salvos of sexual materiel at them via every barrel of popular culture, then admonish them for their carnal desires enflamed by hormones? All the while teaching them antithetical techniques to bed women so that they are ever more reliant on aforementioned media; which advises they empower their partners lest they ruin any remaining chance at coitus.

    Welcome to the post-industrial consumerist society, savor the ennui.

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 10:22 pm ru2586

      This comment is the comment of the month. Any analysis of today’s gender relations cannot be accurate unless it take into account capitalism/consumer society’s role in creating the social dynamics that we find ourselves in.

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      • on February 7, 2012 at 9:40 am John Norman Howard

        “Society” is an entity made up of people, and does nothing in and of itself… it’s the people who are creating the social dynamics… the accelerator being whoever controls the major media. Ask yourself who that is, next time you want to blame “capitalism” for today’s ills.

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      • on February 8, 2012 at 5:40 am blogster

        And who owns and drives the media – that’s right, just the world’s biggest capitalists, that’s all. Guys like Murdoch, Buffett, Carlos Slim etc. etc. The media gives capitalists unrivalled access to consumers – hence the point of advertising etc.

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    • on February 7, 2012 at 1:30 pm Fred Rotten

      “They who have put out the people’s eyes, reproach them of their blindness.” -John Milton

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  16. on February 5, 2012 at 2:56 pm Fred Rotten

    @ Trimegistus (February 5, 2012 at 10:59 am):

    Right on. I especially appreciate your thoughts on the liberal massacre of what has traditionally been understood and accepted as high culture, the visual arts in particular.

    I often think that I would have made a decent and productive living as an artist in ANY period of human history up to the last 40 or 50 years. I humbly assert that I’ve been blessed with a talent for artistic ability, much like some are blessed with a talent for mathematics or leadership or programming. However, the “rape culture” camp has done such a complete job of raping our shared artistic heritage that it has degenerated into ‘works’ which are either hopelessly ignortant, obscurantist, commercially compromised, or politically motivated.

    The fateful collapse in critical standards is now so complete that almost every artistic discipline has been reduced to one or another form of ideology or publicity or some pernicious combination of the two.*

    And before the screechy girls start insisting that ‘some of the greatest artists in history were gay’, or something along those lines, let me suggest that the great artists never made art about their gayness or about how gay they were.

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 2:56 pm Thor

      Are you suggesting that your artistic output is more esthetically
      pleasant than gobs of elephant dung? Quelle horreur, of couse
      you have a problem selling your work, you suckup
      heteronormative fascist reactionary racist paternalistic
      colonialist and possibly Christian pig. I smell counterrevolutionary
      machinations, you,… you … враг народа!

      Thor

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  17. on February 5, 2012 at 2:59 pm Fred Rotten

    *Thank you, ‘The New Criterion’, Volume 30, Number 1, September 2011 issue.

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  18. on February 5, 2012 at 3:32 pm Whitehall

    It also plays with the environs antihuman agenda. Our 7 billion human cancer on the planet is bad and male lust is solely to blame.

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 3:24 pm passingby

      Well, the women tending to the kids resulting from that lust may have a role too.

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  19. on February 5, 2012 at 3:45 pm Firepower

    heartiste
    Self-proclaimed (and self-celebrated) asexuals and feminists have a lot in common. The animating force for both is an intense loathing of male* desire.

    Your editor and editorial staff is falling down a bit; they should be telling you to ditch the unnecessarily complex “Self-proclaimed (and self-celebrated) asexuals”

    for the English elegant economy of words and simply call them “MRM’s”
    Much more simple – less typing, too.

    Don’t be scared. They’ll just complain about your choice
    and ultimately
    blame girls
    for it

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  20. on February 5, 2012 at 4:07 pm ow

    If I fall in love it is after sex but it wanes; sometimes into admiration or into hatred. There is no promise of this or that to attract a man unless it is a promise of self-love as in pleasing his pride. To truly fall in a modern sense is effeminate.

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  21. on February 5, 2012 at 4:21 pm Tunacrab

    Seriously man, when are you going to write a book? I’d hope you’d already be working on one…

    I’ve tried to save a few poor misguided souls by pointing them to The Chateau. It would be even better to have a hard copy – A physical, holdable distillation of the real truths discussed here that are relevant to today’s men… Something you could just hand to that poor acquaintance or casual friend, the “good buy” beta who has the potential to be more, but has been brainwashed by the leftist/feminist/equalist agenda. A book to hand to him with a smirk and a “Here, you need this. Now go be a man for once in your life”

    Write it. The western world needs it.

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  22. on February 5, 2012 at 4:28 pm Sidewinder

    Tip from the field related to female animousity towards male desire-

    I had a wary young woman put the brakes on me with the needy-seeking-reassurement comment “I feel like you only want to have sex with me.”

    I responded with “Hell yes I want to have sex with you.”

    5 minutes later I had my hand between her legs and she was soaking wet. Its bizarre to see it happening, but what girls say with their mouths is often no indication at all what they are thinking/feeling. I’ve had three girls tell me, unsolicited while in my bedroom, that they were NOT going to have sex with me. One of them even said “its going to be a long time before i have sex with you.” I had sex with all three girls the very same night. From now on, anytime a girl announces to me that she isn’t going to have sex with me, I am going to make sure I have condoms in the nightstand.

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 2:18 pm theoak

      I agree.

      ::making out on couch::

      her- “Im not having sex with you tonight”

      me-“Who said I wanted to have sex with you tonight?”

      ::pause::

      her-“You dont?”

      ::stand up and carry her into bedroom, throw on bed, start fucking::

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 2:23 pm Anon

      I’m pretty sure it’s a chateau maxim:

      “If a girl mentions the word “sex” in your presence, it means that she’s thinking about having sex with you”

      or something…

      Enjoy!

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 6:11 pm Pulsotic

        For the beginners:

        At bar:
        HER:”I’m not having sex with you.”
        ME:”Why are you thinking about us having sex so much?”

        She mentions sex
        ME:”You women are all the same, just want me for my body”

        Alone and getting naked:
        HER:”You don’t think we’re having sex do you?”
        ME:”We’re both adults. We’ll do whatever we’re comfortable with”

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 6:06 pm Pulsotic

      I’m just a little shocked that you didn’t mention the phrase “Last Minute Resistance” since I’ve seen you on this blog so much. This phenomenon has been analyzed repeatedly and for a good reason. The men that discovered how to overcome it benefit from a greater amount of sex.

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 7:46 pm Anonymous

      Haha, I was bumpin’ and grindin’ on a friend I was visiting when she took me off the dance floor and said “I’m not having sex with you.” I replied “Well too bad, I’m raping you then.” Mission accomplished.

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  23. on February 5, 2012 at 4:34 pm askjoe

    how life is lived on the otherside of the pussicon river,

    most of his spare time is still spent chasing women around town. “It gets easier as you get older,” he claims. “I don’t know why, but I’m thankful for it. The women get younger. I don’t pull old women – who wants to do that?” He’s not big on chat-up lines either. “I just hang over and have a look at them,” he says, “and if they look back in the correct manner, you can always tell if you are on. If not, you just go off and look at someone else.”

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv-entertainment/archive/interviews/2005/06/10/lemmy-at-em-115875-15612911/#ixzz1lXspwnZr

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 6:20 pm Libertardian

      Hilarious quote, especially “if they look back in the ‘correct’ manner”. If not, move on to a smarter girl who gets it correct.

      It definitely gets easier as you get older, provided you’re not a failure at life.

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  24. on February 5, 2012 at 5:24 pm Anonymous

    I know it was my posts about your attempts to reverse the law of causality (regarding sex and self-esteem) that got under your skin. Good. Now you should ask yourself why.

    What I advocate is not asexualism, nor do I ascribe to any religious predilection to regard sex as evil–I advocate against promiscuity for the reason that sex is good, that it is one of man’s highest activities, but you must evaluate your desire in rational terms. What is it that drives your desire for sex–a desire for a well-earned celebration of your self-esteem, or the desire to attain unearned self-esteem through the act of sex? What is the cause and what is the effect–self-esteem to sex, or sex to self-esteem?

    What you are, in essence, is a hideous psycho-epistemological aberration–a muscle mystic of the political right, or “bioconservative”. In your attempts to negate the validity of the conscious mind in man’s existence, to worship the dogma of biological determinism, you are just as evasive and guilty as the liberals, the feminists, and the spiritual mystics.

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 5:25 pm Trimegistus

      We’re all very impressed with your vocabulary. Now what the FUCK are you trying to say?

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 7:19 pm Ben

        Who knows? It’s a greater mind than mine that can peer through that murky, pompous, squid ink and extract anything comprehensible.

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      • on February 7, 2012 at 9:43 am John Norman Howard

        Let’s be fair now… in nature, squid ink serves a purpose.

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      • on February 7, 2012 at 7:51 pm King A's Bastard Son

        As it does with King A’s flatulent comments.

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      • on February 7, 2012 at 8:11 am x2d4d

        If I’m reading it right, it can be summed up as: “Heartiste is a hedonism propagandist.”

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      • on February 8, 2012 at 7:49 pm King A

        … because everyone who attempts to communicate an advanced thought is really just trying to “impress” Trimegistus?

        You sad little boys are so thin skinned. You’re the type of people who get all in a huff about some city boy tryin’ to come in yer sad little berg and embarrass y’all with that fancy book learnin’ got for the sole purpose of showin’ up the locals.

        It surprises me what low-level rhetoric and middling vocabulary sets off some people’s insecurities. The threshold is dropping through the floor. You should at least be aware that such criticism says more about you than it does the original commenter. There isn’t anything particularly challenging about Anonymous’s expression. Seems straightforward to me, if not completely correct.

        How about this? Instead of trying to read between the lines for conspiracy and insult, try reading the lines themselves. Basic comprehension is a disappearing skill on a medium with such a low barrier to entry. Why should a chode attempt to understand a paragraph that doesn’t immediately make sense to him when he can rattle off an all-caps reaction and hit “send” in under half a minute?

        “Now what the FUCK are you trying to say?” Apparently nothing to you. Scroll on, chump.

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 10:29 pm Andrew

      I see what you’re saying, but Rand’s views on sex were wrong.

      Read the archives, explore sexual dynamics, both in practice and theory, and you will see what I mean.

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    • on February 7, 2012 at 8:06 am x2d4d

      Sex and self-esteem form a feedback loop and at the extremes I’m sure you’ll find quite a variety of causality relationships. But mostly, sex is for pleasure and romantic bonding similar to the way eating is for pleasure and not starving to death.

      Some people with low self-esteem under-eat or over-eat to compensate, while in others the poor diet leads to self-esteem problems (fatness, chemical imbalances, or both). But most people simply enjoy eating and devote a lot of time and energy to eating well.

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    • on February 7, 2012 at 1:37 pm Fred Rotten

      @ Anonymous:

      zuhh???

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    • on February 7, 2012 at 1:41 pm Fred Rotten

      @ Anonymous:

      Dammit, I’m SO SICK AND TIRED of being labeled a hideous psycho-epistemological aberration.

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  25. on February 5, 2012 at 5:57 pm James

    Off topic: Geriatric whore talks about spreading her legs for Kennedy in her youth:

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/inside_my_teen_affair_with_jfk_FGF4aS7OdoQozP4tyySsmK/3

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 4:06 pm Anonymous

      But notice how almost all the comments from so-called conservative readers of the Post are into blaming the male.

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 9:56 pm Anton

      JFK — alpha

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  26. on February 5, 2012 at 6:03 pm Phoenix

    Well, I’m a man, and by telling me that I’m not supposed to be a pervert = bitch you’re gonna get smacked.

    For real. Give me shit and you can get the fuck out of my sight.

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  27. on February 5, 2012 at 6:56 pm Jake

    Last night this DOUCHE NOZZLE from L.A. did everything he could (in the end, not nearly enough) to fuck up my game with a hot blonde visiting from the U.K.

    Seriously, he was going out of his way, with no benefit to himself, trying to screw my efforts to get at this girl. I had to pull out my double down mind fuck sex tourist story to reduce him to the sniveling white knight he really is.

    Of course L.A. guys are no match for Jake-from-the-dark-side: http://two.cedonulli.com/2012/02/guys-from-la/

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    • on February 7, 2012 at 2:36 am ow

      Tyler Durden welcomes you to the dark side.

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  28. on February 5, 2012 at 7:06 pm alteredfate

    The feminist attempt at brainwashing society isn’t working and has been crumbling under the weight of its own inherently unstable logic for some time. All of the women I have been with over the past several years who were under the age of thirty seem to have what I’d describe as an insatiable hunger for my cock. Most if not all of those over thirty that I’ve been with have always seemed to make a point of telling me that they are not really into sex or they are turned off by a man’s high sex drive, all before quivering with ecstasy after I vigorously fuck the stupid out of them. They then usually inform me that they have never been with a man before that they love to fuck so much. Moral of the story: if alpha, fuck young ones to keep them immune to feminist ideology but also fuck old ones to help cure society of feminism’s insidious damage.

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  29. on February 5, 2012 at 7:24 pm crashedupderby

    male sexuality/sexual desire is the reason for all modern conveniences/accomplishments. without it there would be no civilization.
    it is the driving force behind all human advancement.

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  30. on February 5, 2012 at 8:14 pm Smeq

    I need a good reply to a shit test line: “Are you flirting with me?”
    Any thoughts?

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 3:26 pm MichaelC

      “Are you flirting with me?”
      “Why? Do you want me to?”

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 7:21 pm Ben

      “Do you feel like I’m flirting with you?” (Then no comms for at least 2 days)

      “Yes.”

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 7:21 pm Ben

        “Yes” as in this is another reply to this sort of womanspeak.

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    • on February 7, 2012 at 11:34 am Tyrone

      “No, I thought you were flirting with me.”

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    • on February 8, 2012 at 8:29 pm King A

      “So you don’t get hit on much, huh?”

      “You flatter yourself.”

      “I call it negotiating the details, but you can call it whatever you want.”

      “You think this is flirting? Okay.”

      “You’ll know when I’m flirting with you.”

      “Oh. Here I thought you skipped to foreplay.”

      “No, you look like a waitress, and I need a drink.”

      Ignore. “So how about this old lady who banged JFK?” / “It’s been bothering me all night, but I just figured out who you look like.” (Who?) “Um, forget it.” Ignore. Ignore. Ignore.

      or the universal go-to:

      “Does it matter?”

      Depends how sophisticated your ability for seamless delivery. The cruder you are, the simpler you should keep it.

      By the way, who answers a woman’s questions anyway? Who pays attention to the content of her speech to be able to respond with specifics? A lot of words come out of their mouths, but they talk with their eyes and with their body.

      Yes, it is a mindfuck to reiterate what they say with concision so as to expose their flighty stream-of-consciousness for the vapidity it is, and/or to indicate your quality of observation and assert control of the conversation. But take care to use the mindfuck to steer the exchange where thou wilt. Answering her directly makes her the prosecutor and you the witness being cross-examined, even while she subconsciously desires the roles reversed. Or, more specifically, she desires the man with the wherewithal to force the reversal.

      Above all, don’t imagine a reply has to make sense except at the simplest level of coherence. She doesn’t want an answer to her rhetorical question, she wants explicit confirmation and validation of her status, or proof of yours. It is a kind of power play, and your demeanor/delivery must flip the script.

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  31. on February 5, 2012 at 8:25 pm carolyn

    OT–“it’s half-time in america”–clint eastwood in a superbowl ad.

    indeed it is.

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 5:23 pm John Norman Howard

      It’s not half-time in American… it’s game over and time to sweep out the stadium.

      Eastwood’s pathetic Chrysler commercial would have us believe Detroit is a new mecca? Laughable. At best, it’s the bright flicker of the candle before it goes out… forever.

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 9:05 pm carolyn

        well, i took ‘detroit’ to be a reference to the automobile industry, not the city itself. fwiw, i agree that the city is doomed.

        the ad was a paean to american exceptionalism, a poem of beautiful images. yeah, i’m a sucker for all that especially when it wasn’t expected. brought tears to my eyes, admittedly after my 2nd gin and diet tonic.

        http://www.youtube.com/chrysler?sid=1037056&KWNM=eastwood+superbowl&KWID=317986382

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      • on February 7, 2012 at 9:48 am John Norman Howard

        Even if it was just meant to symbolize the auto industry in general (and by extension, America herself) it was still laughable… insipid kwan pep rally talk… made more inane by being given at the historical equivalent of our 2:00 warning… with the score 56-10, in favor of the opposing team.

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 10:04 pm Libertardian

        Yep, it’s twilight in America. We’ll be succeeded, if at all, by a culture that isn’t infected with socialism, multiculturalism, feminazism, and the rest of their fatal constellation of plague bacilli.

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      • on February 7, 2012 at 12:33 pm ken@unixslave.com

        You mean Islam?

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      • on February 7, 2012 at 3:08 pm Stark

        China dude, china.

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  32. on February 5, 2012 at 8:39 pm DirkJohanson

    Good timing for this post. Check out the feud I’ve been having with a cunt that runs a lesbian dating website, and who condemns sugardaddy dating as “exploitative.”

    Get this: the lesbian scolds guys into going “the more traditional way” by dating same-age women.

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 4:57 pm DirkJohanson

      Sorry about omitting the link concerning my feud with the lesbian who wants guys to date women their own age “the more traditional way” Here’s the link:

      http://www.onlinepersonalswatch.com/news/2012/01/sugar-babies-seek-friendship-and-help-with-tuition.html

      You really have to see it to believe it.

      Then again, I’m sure you’ve seen this type of hypocrisy before.

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  33. on February 5, 2012 at 8:57 pm Anonymous

    Animal Mother had it right… If I’m gonna get my balls blown off for a word, my word is poontang!

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  34. on February 6, 2012 at 12:05 am LBK

    Maybe in the long run the problem will correct itself as the beta genes get weeded out of the gene pool and betas disappear.

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 3:06 pm Thor

      You might be right. And if so, it will be VERY BAD for civilization,
      which is build MOSTLY by betas, from scientists and engineers
      to some entrepreneurs and the laborers.

      Thor

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 5:27 pm Matt

        And the ironic thing is that it will be all WOMENS’ fault!!! “But, but, but, MEN are the war mongers, the greedy ones, the bad guys.” Nope…

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    • on February 7, 2012 at 10:00 am Ed the Department Head

      Maybe we will eventually have a new system that rejects liberalism and democracy and places women back in the subjective position they belong in and subconsciously long to be in. At that point, brainy betas could carry the power alphas by having the backing of state power.

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  35. on February 6, 2012 at 12:18 am whiskeysplace

    I wouldn’t want to control women, too much work. Any system based on coercion requires far too much policing to be efficient.

    Instead, women need to know the score. The truth and nothing but it. That’s why this place does God’s work.

    Women walk a razor’s edge, always, in selecting mates and conducting themselves romantically. They might not think so, but they have generally less margin than say, women in Jane Austen’s day. They can end up alone, dependent on an ever-tottering, decrepit government, with no real suitability for those beta males who provoke disgust. It won’t take catastrophe to do that either, just sustained GDP growth of say, less than 2% for a decade. Which is entirely possible. The US is not say, Finland or Japan, it has lots and lots of NAMs which require massive wealth transfers. Guess who is last in the spoils parade? It’s no M’Oanisha from the Hood. Their last best hope for a quality mate who actually sticks around could walk right by them and trigger disgust when they’re 25, but be pretty much their male counterpart. Women need the truth, and nothing but it. Raw and uncensored.

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  36. on February 6, 2012 at 12:56 am jack

    Blog Fodder:

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/inside_my_teen_affair_with_jfk_FGF4aS7OdoQozP4tyySsmK/0

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  37. on February 6, 2012 at 1:41 am loveiseasy

    Feminists despise male desire because of their exclusion from it, more especially that of the more high status men. It’s mildly amusing that they decry female sexual objectification so often seeing as the real impetus behind this indignation is their resentment of the fact they’ll never be coveted as a sexual object by any man who matters. Bitter bitches.

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 9:20 pm Obstinance Works

      They just don’t know do they lady. More for you.

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  38. on February 6, 2012 at 3:00 am Abstract Art is Fucking Gay

    Blog topic: The decline of the economic middle class has been shadowed by the decline of the pussy middle class. As Mr. Insincere POTUS said, We increasingly live in a society where a few people do really well and most folks barely get by.

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 5:32 pm Matt

      Yup it sucks, I’m part of that pussy middle class, or maybe at this point in my life even lower middle class. I’m one of the 99ers.

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    • on February 7, 2012 at 2:41 am ow

      Do we really need a middle class? Go hard or go hut.

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  39. on February 6, 2012 at 4:13 am Anonymous

    Funny how the author is quick to berate feminists and “asexuals” when they are supposedly demonizing male desire, but at the same time you are longing for the day when sexbots arrive so they can satisfy men and REDUCE male desire.

    So whats it going to be then? Is male desire good or bad? Should it be encouraged or discouraged in society?

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 4:08 pm Emma the Emo

      It’s simply natural and not evil (it has its good and bad sides, just like female sexuality), so no need to demonize it, it’s not so horrible. We can’t make it go away and I doubt men want to get rid of desire for sex (unless they were really hopeless and celibate). Of course we can do things to minimize the bad points of desire and maximize its good sides, but denying male desire is the way it is is NOT gonna do that.

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 7:52 pm Tyrone

      You wouldn’t be here without it. You tell me. You wouldn’t be living in a technically advanced society and have the luxury of even holding this conversation without it.

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 7:57 pm Tyrone

      Sexbots are merely a safe and low cost means of having sex without the legal risk or insanity that most women seem to bring with them. They aren’t there yet. Women would really be angry then. Their entire lives revolve around cursing men for not making the world perfect enough for women. What would you do? If they ever make sexbots like in BladeRunner or AI, you’re shit will really be weak.

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  40. on February 6, 2012 at 4:14 am Galloway

    As is a mans desire for power. Almost a taboo and oftentimes linked to sexual desire as well. Now why ist that? 🙂

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  41. on February 6, 2012 at 8:09 am chris

    http://www.bakadesuyo.com/do-women-who-like-politics-have-more-orgasms

    Left wing women are sluts.

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 7:25 pm Ben

      Next study: Researchers prove beyond doubt the urinary geographic locus of ursus arctos.

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  42. on February 6, 2012 at 8:48 am MichaelC

    With respect to sex, it’s long been said that “men compete, women select”.

    For most of human civilization, that’s not really been the case. Up until the last hundred years, fathers have had a large influence in who their daughters went out with, and more importantly who their daughters would NOT be going out with. Fathers would tend to veto suitors (an archaic term these days) who did not seem to be viable husbands, recognizing that teenage girls tended to not have the level of judgement needed to make such long-term decisions.

    Over the last few decades, fathers’ influence have been steadily decreasing. We will soon see what effect that has on civilizational stability.

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 6:29 pm Thor

      I gave my adult son and single father (of a girl) a T-shirt with big print
      DADD and smaller print

      Dads Against Daughters Dating

      even smaller print:
      You shoot the first one and word will spread

      Thor

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 7:50 pm Tyrone

      We are already seeing and experiencing it.

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 10:24 pm Libertardian

      I once pointed this out on another board, and got the reply: “There might be a grain of truth in this misogynist little gem. I would never have married my asshole ex-husband if my parents had ANY say in the matter.”

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      • on February 7, 2012 at 9:53 am John Norman Howard

        File that one under: The comedy often writes itself… all the funnier because that cunt obviously didn’t understand the exquisite self-confessing sublimity of what she believed to be a cogent reply.

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  43. on February 6, 2012 at 9:49 am Rollo Tomassi

    It’s fascinating to me the degree to which some will defend the preference for ‘no-sex’ as a sexual preference. I think the main reason being that it hits too close to the mark for homosexuality and the quickness with which they’ll jump to defend it as legitimate.

    When a guy has ED, low Testosterone, or a woman’s libido drops as a result of menopause or hormonal imbalances, we don’t vilify them for seeking medical treatment for their physical condition; yet when a young girl convinces herself that her condition is a ‘preference’ and not a physical abnormality we suddenly have a civil rights case where everyone wants to pile on.

    When a person is prescribed anti-depressants a common side effect is a drop in libido. Are they now asexual if they don’t really have an interest in sex as a result? If a person is conditioned psychologically over the course of a lifetime to view sex as abhorrent and as a result they have no interest in sex, are they asexual?

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  44. on February 6, 2012 at 11:51 am chris

    http://www.springerlink.com/content/pv40794hh82guj12/

    Support for feminism existing to allow smart yet ugly women the opportunity to pursue the mating strategy which maximises their fitness? Feminism as a politico-reproductive strategy?

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 3:18 pm evilalpha

      Of course feminism is a politico reproductive strategy. Look at all the time these cunts spend on defending sluts, abortion, alimony, non genetic child support, and vilification of “nice guys”.

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 8:50 pm MichaelC

      Or as Rush Limbaugh put it: Feminism was established “to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society”

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  45. on February 6, 2012 at 2:09 pm King A

    William wrote:

    It’s sad how society has beaten down male sexuality to the point where wanting sex is seen in the same light as being obsessed with sex.

    The problem isn’t with “wanting” or “being obsessed with” sex. The problem is idolizing it. Or putting it on a pedestal, if you will. Heartiste wrote in one of his replies:

    sex is the life force of the sentient universe. sex is the alpha and the omega, the cauldron of creation, the pulsating, throbbing, inflamed, veiny foundation upon which all else rises to glory. the second the world stops revolving around sex, is the second the world begins its spiral into the illimitable nothingness of eternal black death and infinite void.

    That’s over the top, probably for effect. But worse, it’s just not true. And putting sex in its proper place isn’t the equivalent of lopping off your testes.

    The last post was treated to a hagsplosion because Heartiste made a cartoon out of himself, and legitimate criticism was all to easy. (Yes, fanboys, he can be legitimately criticized! Hard to fathom, I know.)

    It’s no news that Heartiste’s game is rooted in nihilism, or if you prefer “illimitable nothingness of eternal black death and infinite void.” He’s smart to make the connection explicit, because he has placed all of his chips on that roulette number and expects the rest of us do the same. Those of you who trip all over yourselves to guzzle his spunk-infused Kool-Aid should at least be aware of the limits of his program, even dimly.

    But game does not entail nihilism. That is a stupid accident of history, a coincidence of post-feminism flailing around for meaning in a postmodern age. It latches on to anything, like an emo girl turned goth turned wiccan who just found out that God Is Dead.

    Nor does game entail the adolescent obsession with all things sexual. When you first get your dick wet, the temptation to view everything through semen-colored glasses is understandable. That orgasmic surge really does feel like it can explain the universe. But then there’s the cum-down, isn’t there always? What explains that? To a certain desperate type they never stop to wonder; in their haste and fear they rush to busy themselves setting up the next fleeting spooge. It is an “answer” only for those who are adept at avoiding the question.

    One can be on top of his game and be in control of one’s sexuality. I don’t see how it’s alpha in the slightest to be in thrall to low impulses, so in thrall that it infects your intellectual understanding and forms your philosophy for life, forcing you to elevate body function to a god. And once you’re worshiping that god on the pedestal, all discussion of self-discipline is regarded as “asexual” freakishness.

    So, yeah, it is “sad how society has beaten down male sexuality to the point where wanting sex is seen in the same light as being obsessed with sex.” But it is equally sad that all contemplation of a possible obsession is seen in the same light as a deviant yearning for asexuality.

    There is another way, of course, but first you have to stop mistaking teenage Ayn-Randian nihilism as like way deep, man. The universe is not one ginormous veiny cockthrob, though it may seem so after a pubescent wispy-bearded teen achieves his first petit mort with the opposite sex. Chastity is only defined as sexlessness when the idea of self-control is regarded as genetically, evolutionarily impossible. That adolescent intellectual error is keeping game frozen in a permanent state of adolescence. Not to mention how it soul-scarifies its dumber blind adherents without the chops to recognize nor correct for that error.

    But I guess I can only say this so many ways until I’m forced to acknoledge the obvious: I’m attempting to teach the meaning of life to special olympics kids touching themselves under their desks. To those with ears, hear. To the rest of you, enjoy “the void,” starting today. Because the nihilism doesn’t hit you all at once upon death. If only! No, it creeps in and warps you, zombifies you beneath your notice, and you are left redefining the universe around your voluntarily acquired delusions.

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 3:15 pm Thor

      “There is another way, of course, but first you have to stop mistaking teenage Ayn-Randian nihilism as like way deep, man. ”

      Groan. Ayn Rand was and is controversial, obviously.
      But AFAIK nobody has called her a nihilist.

      She was, among other things, profoundly in awe of the human spirit.
      This shows more in the Fountainhead than in Atlas Shrugged,
      because the former focuses on individuals, the latter primarily
      on society.

      Thor

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 3:17 pm Naz

      I certainly enjoy your take on posts. Everything from the artistic prose to the alternative views you present. However I fail to understand the conclusion or the ‘take away’ from your comments. It’s like the open ended story which leaves the reader wondering what the story was about. In this case, your arguing that sex is not the life force behind everything, and I understand that it’s not, rather it’s very important in shaping up the world, but you stop too short in explaining what you think is the driving force in this world. Or was this meant to leave the question for each one of us to answer?
      ….keep up the good work.

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 4:31 pm Max Coxwell

      Nice…

      Taking the red pill and having the courage to overcome social conditioning is the first step not the last.

      Overcoming delusions, finding your own purpose, and getting what you want in life is the middle step.

      Gaining true compassion for others, both men and women, seeing them as trapped by their own psyches is the end game.

      The problem is that it is impossible skip a step in this process of psychological growth.

      A whipped beta who is deluded by his own delusions, to the extent that he denies his own desires, couldn’t possibly understand compassion.

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 7:11 pm Tyrone

      The solution to this dilemma is really quite simple; you learn to love someone, maybe start a family. Sex for its own sake got a bit boring for me, but I love sex all the same. We have the luxury today of being able to obsess about it. Only societies that have most of the wolves at bay can even think about it. We are so far advanced, we create problems where none exist. Anyway, I love sex, I get a lot of sex, but its true, there’s more to life than sex. All the same, a life without sex would be like having to eat McDonald’s every day.

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      • on February 7, 2012 at 9:55 am John Norman Howard

        We are so far advanced, we create problems where none exist.

        As apt a nutshell encapsulation as any… well-played.

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 8:16 pm GeishaKate

      I have nothing more profound to say than “like.”

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 10:55 pm pulsotic

      One word: Pedantic. It’s too much, man. Your comment is try-hard. If you’re trying to game gamers you’ll need to be more subtle, especially when your neediness is so transparent.

      We study people. That’s what we do. You seem to study ideas. Your nebulous abstract thoughts started out OK, and I liked the questioning of blind faith, but you need to bring it together and center yourself.

      A wise person doesn’t call himself wise or even imply it. It comes off as ‘preachy’ and alienates your audience. In fact you should lose the whole last paragraph. You know, the one that invalidates your whole comment.

      Your argument stalls not because of your grandiose / delusional statements about knowing the meaning of life, nor does it falter when you insult the reader. It was over when you judged yourself as superior because you think you’re not in thrall to low impulses.

      Those ‘low impulses’ originate in the reptile brain and act as the operating system which your neocortex programs are run on. Your subconscious even has more control than your neocortex. If you continue to believe the pretty lies that society has been shoveling into your ‘learned’ head and ignore the science, then that’s cool. Do what you want. Just remember that when you point your finger at us with accusations of drinking the Kool-Aid, there’s 3 pointing back at you.

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      • on February 7, 2012 at 9:56 am John Norman Howard

        My impression as well.

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      • on February 7, 2012 at 8:01 pm King A's Bastard Son

        And my impression as well. Then again, that’s my impression of everything King A writes.

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      • on February 7, 2012 at 10:36 am Murray F. Rottencrotch

        “Uhhh your comment is try-hard, man.”

        I think, between ch on the one hand and King A on the other, we have the razor’s edge of truth covered and can safely just get on with it. Rhetorical foibles aside.

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      • on February 8, 2012 at 7:30 pm King A

        I know I am in thrall to low impulses. But I don’t believe that’s the best I can do. The choice isn’t between acceptance and denial. The choice is between striving against undiscipline and celebrating undiscipline. The best websites like these (and you, apparently) offer is to mock the very attempt at striving because you assume that discipline is impossible without much investigation. If one thinks something is impossible from the start, anyone who attempts it is by definition insane. I am not convinced discipline is impossible. My experience indicates the contrary.

        I am not trying to game hedonist gamers! Go nuts, I say. They have cast their die, and anyway they are approaching the age where the persuasive arts cease to have an effect. They are invested deep towards full commitment, it would be nonsensical for them to turn around now even if they had a road to Damascus moment. May they enjoy the ratty No-Tell Motel Bachelor Arms accommodations, working on their leathery perma-tans “poolside.” What do I care about their advanced mutual masturbation techniques and deliberately stunted family trees? The problem takes care of itself, and the clamor passes.

        I am only interested in the generation coming up — both men and women: that they don’t suffer for their swinging daddies’ ignorance about the full human condition any more than for their mothers’ feminist lies, as my generation did. These are not new dilemmas. All it takes is a cursory peek into the conversations of the past to realize that struggling over these questions is a permanent part of maturation. It’s not clear to the young man whether sacrifice is better than indulgence, to say the least.

        I appreciate the genuine criticism among so much impotent commentary. Cheers, brother.

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      • on February 8, 2012 at 8:19 pm n/a

        KA,

        The last thing the nearly obliterated beta males here require is “discipline” in sexual matters; they’ve been disciplined to the bone by the regime of mindless politesse that defines their every thought. There is precious little old-school concupiscence to be found.

        Your fear of a plague of wizened playboys is pure fantasy, the delusion of someone whose modes are limited to high dudgeon and even higher camp.

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      • on February 8, 2012 at 9:12 pm carolyn

        ‘they’ve been disciplined to the bone by the regime of mindless politesse that defines their every thought’

        but isn’t there some middle ground? a more brash and aggressive masculinity that stays within some agreed upon limits in lieu of the milquetoast swpl beta demeanor so deplored here? king a’s ‘mission’, as far as i can see, is to restore us to that sweet spot.

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      • on February 9, 2012 at 8:34 pm King A

        You mistake discipline for servility. Self-mastery conquers servility from within (eros amok) and from without (beta subjugation). Mastering and sublimating “low impulses” is not the equivalent of repressing those impulses for fear of feminist consequence.

        Betas aren’t disciplined, they are kept. Their “politesse” derives from cowardice and weakness. They experience plenty of “old-school concupiscence” with no outlet — so they smolder away until it flares up in random ways (sometimes literally).

        Yours is the typical category error that persists like a rash in forums like these. Behavior that derives from policy is not the same as that which derives from weakness.

        I don’t “fear” “wizened playboys.” I encourage the development of men in full. The mentality of undisciplined adolescence won’t overthrow feminism and can’t replace feminism. A sustainable libertinism is “pure fantasy.” You’re not the first fool to confuse license and liberty. There are more choices than feminist ball-torquing and perpetual ejaculation. Though, with your ill-formed and nihilist understanding of human nature, it’s hard for you to see the other possibilities.

        Which is my point. The problem never has been about the cad’s behavior. In fact, being a cad is part of the liberation. No, the problem is how easily your ilk is intellectually satisfied by a couple fleeting groin tingles over-itched. Overindulgence isn’t a consequence of your epic passion, Lothario groupie. It is the result of a simpleton’s misunderstanding of the upper and lower limits of life. We are more than a bundle of urges. There are pleasures and achievements beyond your eighth-grade woody.

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      • on February 8, 2012 at 8:57 pm carolyn

        ‘It’s not clear to the young man whether sacrifice is better than indulgence, to say the least.’

        sometimes i wonder if ch is really on your side, so deeply subversive of libertinism that some of his audience takes the blog at face value, others who get it, repelled at his apparently nihilistic advice.

        i say ‘apparently’ because ch is not amoral. he rises to his feet now and then in sputtering moral indignation about some issues- false paternity, illegal immigration, divorce ‘rape’. not for nothing do i imagine that a frequent commentor here’s situation in indonesia with a local hottie does not sit right with him.

        i could be wrong.

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    • on February 7, 2012 at 1:59 pm Anonymous

      I would say hedonism, not nihilism, but agree with the point. Also people have been calling Heartiste a cartoon for years.

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  46. on February 6, 2012 at 2:17 pm dennis

    Actually men have to lose more than women when dating the wrong significant other especially when it comes to alimony,taking half of our money the girl never toiled for.

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 3:30 pm Flumpy

      I suppose, but at least here in California alimony ain’t easy to get and doesn’t last very long if you do get it.

      I think lots of guys are parroting the complaints of the prior generation.

      If you’re under 50 you really shouldn’t be worried about alimony… studies show that more women than men are graduating college these days. In fact, men might want to push for alimony because odds are in 20 years time more men will be collecting it than women.

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 8:15 pm GeishaKate

        Good point. For better and worse, divorce ain’t what it used to be. The loser is always the one who has more money (and in more cases that is going to be the woman).

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      • on February 7, 2012 at 1:59 pm Fred Rotten

        @ GeishaKate

        “For better and worse, divorce ain’t what it used to be.”

        Only in 2012 could we expect to hear such a depressing adage!

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 10:37 pm xsplat

        Ever hear of oops babies and child-support-as-alimony?

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 11:29 pm DirkJohanson

        Flumpy,

        More women graduating college doesn’t mean women will be the primary breadwinners most of the time. To a large degree, they tire of their jobs, and find a guy who makes decent money to support them; for the most part, those who can’t find such a guy, stay single and increasingly decide after being pumped and dumped by a hundred or so alphas that they are a “lesbian.”

        Yes, there are exceptions – as stated eloquently by Trimegitus above, you liberals live as if those exceptions are the rule.

        By living by those exceptions, you prove not the rule, but merely that you are fool.

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      • on February 9, 2012 at 7:34 pm Flumpy

        Care to back up those assertions with some statistics? Except for the fool part, that’s just an ad hominem. Generally those who call others playground names have no real argument. Hope it makes you feel better though 🙂

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  47. on February 6, 2012 at 3:13 pm chi-town

    Not everyone can live up to the reputation of a Tony Fahnestock.

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  48. on February 6, 2012 at 3:28 pm Flumpy

    Remind me again why any alpha male would care what society thinks?

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    • on February 7, 2012 at 2:49 am ow

      I don’t know you tell me? People keep waving their arms yelling, jealous husbands and borefriends, angry dads with everybody coming to get me and I just keep laughing inside.

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  49. on February 6, 2012 at 4:05 pm Anonymous

    “One can be on top of his game and be in control of one’s sexuality. I don’t see how it’s alpha in the slightest to be in thrall to low impulses, so in thrall that it infects your intellectual understanding and forms your philosophy for life, forcing you to elevate body function to a god.”

    King A, never were truer words spoken.

    Most of us here owe a great deal to Heartiste, and to the Commandments of Poon, but he sometimes goes overboard with the hipster cynicism. Roosh too, is sometimes guilty of coffee-house philosophising on the supremacy of sex.

    “Game = The ability to conquer desirable women.”

    “Ability” folks, not “obligation”. You don’t have to shtup everything that moves. Heck, we all know natural alphas who don’t feel the need to become Tucker Max impersonators. If you want famous examples – take Philip Rivers or (dare I say it) Tim Tebow.

    That said, I’m not knocking those who do. But be more tolerant of your less promiscuous brethren.

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    • on February 7, 2012 at 2:09 am corvinus

      “One can be on top of his game and be in control of one’s sexuality.”

      Right. A real alpha sees his sexuality as a gift, to be controlled and given only when appropriate. Fat ugly whores and crazy drama queens need not apply. And being religious does not mean being asexual, either. Huge, but common, mistake. Being asexual is as unnatural as being a fag.

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  50. on February 6, 2012 at 4:06 pm Anonymous

    OT:

    COMPUTER EXPERT’S HELP NEEDED!
    For some reason I’m no longer able to post comments within a thread. I was able to a few days ago, but now things go haywire.

    Any suggestions?

    Thanks!

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 5:13 pm omega

      Experts need a better description of the problem than “things go haywire”.

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      • on February 6, 2012 at 6:45 pm Anonymous

        @ omega:

        You’re right. I figured it might be a common enough problem that I could get away without going into great detail. However, I restarted my computer and it seems to be working again.
        Thanks!

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    • on February 6, 2012 at 7:07 pm bob

      If you use firefox with certain addons, it sometimes loses it’s mind.

      NoScript seems impossible to use in the real world, and if I block too many things with AdBlock, I’ve had things go south.

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  51. on February 6, 2012 at 9:28 pm Rum

    King A

    A non-nihilistic world-view? Sure; I would love to see the plan. Just keep in mind that one of its principle foundation points will have to be that G.d created the most fuckable females in such a way that nice, moral guys cause their pussies to snap shut with disgust and turn to sand-paper and their minds to scream rape if such a guy tries to say hello. And ruthlessly amoral serial killers get the best girls the wettest.
    The problem is not insolvable. You just cannot get there from here.

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    • on February 7, 2012 at 11:17 am Murray F. Rottencrotch

      By “insolvable,” I think you meant, “insoluble.”

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    • on February 7, 2012 at 8:03 pm King A's Bastard Son

      Nicely done, Rum. I’d like to see King A’s pontificating and verbosity as he tries to solve the conundrum you’ve laid out…

      …then again, maybe I wouldn’t.

      “God is a superstition, and King A is a false prophet.”

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    • on February 12, 2012 at 3:00 pm King A

      Rum wrote:

      G.d created the most fuckable females in such a way that nice, moral guys cause their pussies to snap shut with disgust and turn to sand-paper and their minds to scream rape if such a guy tries to say hello. And ruthlessly amoral serial killers get the best girls the wettest.

      You’re a nihilist flack but you won’t type the “o” into the word “God”? Cognitive dissonance, brother.

      Your error is definitional. “Nice” is for betas, and betas are not “moral.” They are weak in lieu of being moral, which requires the greatest strength. The beta’s morality, in fact, is corrupted by making the same erroneous equivalence you did. You share the beta’s perspective on niceness, believing, like every half-educated sucker of our era, that being good is the same as being a pussy. The only difference between you and the beta is he resigns himself to foppishness while you define your behavior against its opposite. It’s a really dumb moral ecology you’ve laid out here, and you’re even dumber for trying to live it. You are as misguided as the beta, only on the other side of the spectrum.

      Being moral often means being not nice, especially in this weak piping time of peace, surrounded as we are by Last Men with sunken chests. I am glad to disabuse you of the gameboy article of faith that women are attracted to psychopathy itself rather than the incidental qualities of psychopaths.

      Think for once beyond the platitude, slave. Women are attracted to the strength and danger and rugged independence that exhibit in psychopaths, especially in contrast to a world of weak, safe, and dependent beta males. In the land of the feminist cock-mower, the man who preserved his dick is king. Now, it doesn’t matter that the antisocial narcissist accidentally inoculated himself from the disease that castrated his brothers. All that matters is he is the last erection standing.

      A woman is not going to hypergamously choose a slope-headed low-bred felon if she has the slightest chance with a true alpha male. Or do you think your typical fertility-peak female would unconsciously pass up George Clooney and Tom Brady to go for the real prize, Mike Tyson and 50 Cent? No, being a shitbag loser with an attitude and a rap sheet is only beneficial when acting like a man is socially uncouth and virtually illegal. It takes nothing but a regression to one’s petulant years and a dose of roid rage for any 100-lb weakling to gain access to the least-common-denominator of retard strength.

      Your fantasy idols who “get the best girls the wettest” share traits with alpha, which is instructive for the remedial program in manliness promoted by this website. But they have more differences than similarities. You and other mimics celebrate the ghetto-trash style because it is the only one available to you and your limited stock. Any bullied little cuntboy could channel his adolescent frustrations and pump himself up into The Situation. In contrast, it takes months of training, years of commitment, and centuries of tradition to shape young men into United States Marines. You flail for low-hanging fruit because advanced alphatude requires work, discipline, talent, and leadership. It’s just easier for you to pretend the genuine article cannot exist. Your nihilism is a flimsy disguise for the laziness of the nigger.

      The grand lie, bigger than feminism itself and the fuel of their movement, is that female softness and solicitude — “niceness,” for lack of a better word — is the primary constituent of morality. Try that on the firebreathing preachers of The Great Awakenings in this country; the word “nice” appears nowhere in the Bible. The concept is of wholly postmodern vintage. And you are, indirectly, its bitch.

      The founding mothers of feminism were, as you might imagine, women. A woman’s intellect is naturally bounded by the purview of her most immediate experience, a characteristic of maternal thinking — my children come first, what I see is all that matters, indeed my personal zone is all that exists for all I care! Call it the familial solipsism of the mother. They lack the imagination to transcend their sex with regard to morals. Feminism was the usurpation of morality itself with this very female peculiarity. “Be nice to your sister” became “Being nice is the summum bonum.” If you guys were nice, you’d give us the vote. If you guys were nice, you’d let us run things. If you guys were nice, you’d let us be men.

      A hundred years later, men are extinct or in hiding (or up on the mountain like Zarathustra). All that remains below are the scumbags on the margins of society who didn’t get the memo that the ladies are in charge. I know it goes against everything I believe, says the modren woman, but I can’t help myself for loving my abuser! Between the beta and the thug, the woman consciously chooses beta to keep up appearances, while unconsciously pining for thug, to satisfy her innate, irreducible, and ineradicable longing for manliness.

      Of course there is a third way, indeed the way that built and sustained civilization since the beginning of history. But like a woman you just can’t think outside of your little daintily decorated box (in both senses of the word “box”). You don’t know men who have squared what you regard as a circle. Just like the girls, your world only recognizes pansies and antisocial retards.

      Game sites and PUA wisdom and MRA rallies are the first rumblings of the counter-revolution. Even in the first couple years of this new consciousness, we’ve recovered the old blueprint for manliness, just by talking the unvarnished truth to each other. But the unofficial leaders are still trying to sort some strategies out for themselves.

      At any rate, game is not a pure celebration of hedonism or criminality, try though they might to make it one. Even the crudest advice is tempered by an inkling for the need of discipline; otherwise it would all devolve into a general call for rape. Becoming a beast is not hard, it is a reversion to our base nature, it requires no “commandments” or lengthy discourses or subtle analysis. Refining the beast, however, does take some urbanity, some sophistication. It is no accident that the most successful spokesman for this revolution — Heartiste — is the most stylized and most refined rhetorician them all.

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  52. on February 6, 2012 at 11:27 pm corvinus

    Make that “straight WHITE male desire”.

    Anything to stick it to the fembots. Haha.

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  53. on February 8, 2012 at 3:26 am Childish Gambino

    Love is a trip, but fucking is a sport.
    Are there Asian girls here? Minority report.

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  54. on February 24, 2012 at 12:10 am Kidweinie

    I know. Tell me about it. Why must I be made to feel like I raped someone,just cause I’m a man,and act as thus???

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