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A Valentine’s Day Thought Experiment

February 14, 2012 by CH

What’s more degrading:

a. paying a whore because you have no other way to get laid

b. sleeping with this for free:

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  1. on February 14, 2012 at 1:17 pm ohgodimcoming

    A. Not because of the whore bit but because you have no other way…

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    • on February 15, 2012 at 11:33 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      lzozozlzlz

      EVEry single ONE OF U hav e paid for sex AT ONE POINT lzozozlzozozoz
      even i used to pay 4 sex zllzlzlzz
      did you buy her dinenr
      did you take her out
      did pyou pay for somet8enegg?

      that’s what i used 2 do beofre i became da GRBM lzozlzlzler and now i save money by just textingthem just after midnbight and i get with the bernanke wealth-tranfsefer program where i get all the beta herbs to wine and dine da womenze and den i get their well-fed ginas 4 free zlzozolzozoz: i text dem

      “lzozlzozoz”
      :lotsa cockas for da ladies”
      “bring da movies bno wait its too late just cum over lzozlzl”

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    • on February 15, 2012 at 11:39 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      wait heartiste da picture of the smoustached women is firepower’s mom and she’s a hookertoo so i guess you could kill two birds with one stone so 2 speak zlzolz a bird in hand is worth two in the bush a cock in hand is worth two in da toush if you are a butthexer like tucker max rhyems with goldman sax lzozozlzzo a pussy in hand is worth two hanbds in da bush but dey got rid of da bush in da porn culture and now all da girls sheave off der pushes aexcept for fierepower’s pmom who has a forest fungi forest mosutacheioed vaginaal lzozlzozlzozozo so when you go down on her (or any maierican women) be sure 2 take the following proviosns wso you make it back:

      1) 3 cans lysol
      2) one weed eater and one backup
      3) map and copmasss
      4) full hazmant suit like the ones they were at the japanens ofuckashima fuckvagina fouckashima nuclear plant zlzozlz
      5) rapelling ropes and caribeeners and harness
      6) foreign lanuguage translating software for the other people you will meet down there
      7) emergency beacon
      8) seven pairs of industrial strength surgical gloves
      9) self contained breathing appaarautus with backup oxyhgen lzozlzlz
      10_ NASA/mormon-approved underwear

      zlozozlzllzzzzo safe travels!

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  2. on February 14, 2012 at 1:20 pm Ollie

    A juicy Double Whopper….that’s been sitting in a dumpster for a few days…hmmm…should I just pick the maggots off?

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  3. on February 14, 2012 at 1:20 pm Anonymous

    which has the nicer snatch?

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  4. on February 14, 2012 at 1:21 pm Redleg

    There’s no room for dignity in this shootout.

    Go with a) and call it a transaction. At least the capitalist tint makes it a little less odious.

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  5. on February 14, 2012 at 1:23 pm matt

    Dude don’t put things that scary in an RSS feed. Seriously, I was eating when I saw that.

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  6. on February 14, 2012 at 1:26 pm sean

    i would do the whore.
    i got issues.

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  7. on February 14, 2012 at 1:26 pm morgan

    b is beyond degrading, it’s physiologically impossible for most.

    a may be degrading to some degree, but if you’re cruising across the nevada desert solo there are worse ways to stop and catch a shower.

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    • on February 14, 2012 at 5:23 pm Anon

      Don’t forget the most SOUL-CRUSHING choice of all, choice (C):

      Paying for sex on a daily basis (or monthly via check) but NOT getting sex, i.e., having a wife or ex-wife.

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      • on February 15, 2012 at 5:46 am Ian

        The three F’s: if it floats, flies or fucks, borrow it don’t own it.

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  8. on February 14, 2012 at 1:27 pm golfie

    I would gladly take option a, failing that …shoot myself

    The only other thing more degrading than those two options is paying for a whore that looks like that

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    • on February 15, 2012 at 1:48 pm Phoenix

      There’s no way in hell you’d pay a whore who looks like B. Porn is the better option.

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  9. on February 14, 2012 at 1:31 pm Samuel

    whores are fine.

    whores are the only honest women. They tell you the price up front.

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  10. on February 14, 2012 at 1:35 pm Ollie

    I got some hot footage for those who’d pick choice b):

    Don’t forget the kleenex, dawg.

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  11. on February 14, 2012 at 1:41 pm Art Vandelay

    So what’s the etiquette, do I take some flowers to the whorehouse today or not?

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  12. on February 14, 2012 at 1:42 pm itsme

    you pay for (a) with money.

    you pay for (b) with your soul.

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    • on February 14, 2012 at 2:12 pm Maya trolling for epenis

      yeah, but (a) pays with her soul … although she gets money for this.

      [heartiste: most sex workers enter the field voluntarily. the narrative to the contrary is simply total bullshit.]

      i think it’s better to sleep with (b) because she has nice hair

      [i’d hate to see what your definition of bad hair looks like.]

      and beautiful eyes

      [if there was any doubt that you are not a persistent troll, this comment should dispel it.]

      and by loving her you can inspire her to lose weight and stop smoking.

      [her problems are far more numerous than fatness and smoking. she needs a DNA enhancement.]

      sleeping with a prostitute just causes further damage to her soul.

      [if it’s so soul damaging, why do most whores go into it on their own accord and stay with it for years?]

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      • on February 14, 2012 at 2:43 pm Nicole

        Maya, look at b. Really look at her. Take off your new agey “I’m okay you’re okay” blinders for a minute.

        I’d say that woman’s soul is damaged unless she is a Lesbian. If she is a Lesbian, she had that kind of edgy something I could see doing. If she is heterosexual, she utterly and completely hates herself.

        The fact that she has pretty hair and pretty eyes, and though most women do have some confidence issues, we’re not all blind, means she has no remotely rational excuse for not caring for herself. It’s not like she’s extremely old or extremely ugly in raw terms, and would be empowered somehow by letting go of socially imposed grooming schedules or something. We’re not all perfect, but most of us care enough to not just let stuff go.

        I’m not ashamed to say that even though as a woman I might hit that, if I was male I wouldn’t go near that with someone else’s dick. No way. Bring the hooker.

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      • on February 14, 2012 at 5:47 pm doclove

        Nicole, please tell me the only way you would hit that is vigorously with a twelve inch strap on dildo that had been rolled with superglue and finely shreded glass laced with burning acid and poison which will kill her before she ever fucks again!!!

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      • on February 18, 2012 at 11:20 am greyghost

        Damn , All of us non pretty boys have don’t have shit to worry about. If she saw an “edge ” to that mess with the smokey treat worthy of sexual activity even in a lesbian context, a women can see anything you tell her she wants to see. ” I’m not ashamed to say that even though as a woman I might hit that” ,wow

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      • on February 14, 2012 at 9:58 pm itsme

        one troll to rule them all…

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      • on February 16, 2012 at 7:14 pm Fred Rotten

        @ Maya:

        “…sleeping with a prostitute just causes further damage to her soul.”

        Women have souls?

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    • on February 14, 2012 at 5:21 pm Mr. C

      LOL.

      At least with (a) you have a choice of which whore.

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  13. on February 14, 2012 at 1:50 pm Aaron

    A. Not because of the whore bit but because you have no other way…

    Even though I said b, yeah. Nothing wrong with the occasional whore as long as it’s not because you’re completely incapable of getting sex elsewhere.

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  14. on February 14, 2012 at 1:58 pm maurice

    cigstache is back! there’s a blast from the past. i think she was origially one of 10 photos featured in a “rank the chicks” post, maybe in late 2008 or early 2009, then became shorthand for fuglies in subsequent posts. thanks for bringing her back on valentines day, Chateau…

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    • on February 14, 2012 at 4:11 pm Diego Sigma

      oneitis, maurice?

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      • on February 15, 2012 at 2:46 am Leif

        Nice one. With that pig face how could he not?

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  15. on February 14, 2012 at 2:00 pm 357

    I choose masturbation.

    A. I don’t believe I could ever pay for sex, not when there is plenty sex available in which no monetary transaction is required for the deed. If I was a wretched omega, though, I’d probably pay to have my product consumed.

    B. My penis will shrivel in flaccid defiance at the sight of such a sorry specimen.

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    • on February 14, 2012 at 3:34 pm YaReally

      Agreed.

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    • on February 14, 2012 at 10:18 pm James

      I have always wanted three women at once but have found it always a stretch too far.

      Now THAT I would pay for.

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  16. on February 14, 2012 at 2:13 pm John Norman Howard

    If it’s one of those high-class whores you see in the movies, then obviously a).

    Otherwise, could I just let Bobby Brown punch me in the face?

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    • on February 15, 2012 at 1:45 am Forthefallendreams

      Lmao too soon

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  17. on February 14, 2012 at 2:21 pm Eric

    This isn’t even close. At least the poor bastard who pays a pro because he can’t get any doable chick for free shows that he has absolute minimum standards…and at least one functional eye.

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    • on February 14, 2012 at 4:02 pm Anonymous

      Most paid sex is not with pros.

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      • on February 14, 2012 at 5:24 pm Eric

        Anyone who’s made a direct cash-for-sex transaction in their life is a pro in my book.

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      • on February 14, 2012 at 5:28 pm Eric

        Clarification: I don’t mean to imply the term “pro” equates to them actually being skilled at their chosen trade.

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  18. on February 14, 2012 at 2:21 pm John Norman Howard

    Jeez, keep posting these pictures of late and the chateau will be where boners go to die.

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  19. on February 14, 2012 at 2:24 pm Rex

    I know tons of guys who are amazing with women who are quite into hookers and escorts. It has nothing to do with “choose one or the other”. Opie and Anthony talk about it all the time, and those guys are millionaires with 10’s.

    Sadly I still feel some sort of dirtyness if I was to ever get a hooker. Probably a societal thing,

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  20. on February 14, 2012 at 2:26 pm Flavia

    What a waste of blue eyes. God is cruel sometimes.

    I chose mustache chick. You can’t prove someone fucked her, can you?

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    • on February 14, 2012 at 2:28 pm Flavia

      I mean I chose mustache chick as the worst of the options. Not as in I chose her.

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    • on February 14, 2012 at 11:40 pm jert

      You easily can, just by looking at the shell of what was once the man before he fucked her.

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      • on February 15, 2012 at 12:48 pm Flavia

        I’ll keep an eye out for a dude that is both violently weeping and throwing up.

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  21. on February 14, 2012 at 2:35 pm Aldous huxley

    Actually i’d rather do whitney housten than the creature. Bet the thing smells worse too… Iiii will always love yoooou

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  22. on February 14, 2012 at 2:36 pm Gorbachev

    Choose the whore.

    Keep it in the species.

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    • on February 14, 2012 at 5:58 pm doclove

      You mean bipedal smelly nasty looking landwhales are not part of our species(modern present day human beings or homo sapiens sapiens). I’m shocked,(Not meant for you,Gorbachev, as I realize you are sane and intelligent like myself but for the insane or retarded people reading this—Hear my SARCASM!!!) shocked I tell you!!! What would our ruling elite with their supporting feminasties and White Knights/Manginas think?

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  23. on February 14, 2012 at 2:36 pm Samuel

    they’re all whores, fellas.

    Just because you didn’t put any cash in her hands doesn’t mean you haven’t done business.

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  24. on February 14, 2012 at 2:40 pm Sam Spade

    Either way you pay. But money is easier to replace than time or dignity.

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  25. on February 14, 2012 at 2:44 pm Marco

    this is a guy bro. come on.

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    • on February 15, 2012 at 10:12 am spimmortal

      Wrong, it’s a woman. One of the guides used by artists when drawing male/female faces is mouth size. Men’s mouths are wider – larger. There’s plenty of variation of course, but cigstach has a woman’s mouth for sure.

      One of the other guides is the browline, but it’s covered by hair so no use in this case.

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  26. on February 14, 2012 at 2:52 pm Scruffie

    There’s no way in hell paying for a decent looking whore is more degrading than fucking the comic book guy from the simpsons

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    • on February 15, 2012 at 11:57 am Chris Bechtloff

      Given the choice I might go with comic book guy then cigstache. I bet hes less hairy and he smells better,

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  27. on February 14, 2012 at 2:53 pm smiley

    Come one, she isn’t that bad looking. I think she has a lovely chin. And it’s the inner beauty that matters.

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  28. on February 14, 2012 at 2:53 pm corvinus

    A snorlax appeared…

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  29. on February 14, 2012 at 2:57 pm corvinus

    Here’s Tiger Woods’ whore, as eyewash for the snorlax:

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    • on February 14, 2012 at 10:09 pm old guy, lower case

      I’d rent that. How much an hour?

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  30. on February 14, 2012 at 3:05 pm Transmillenium

    Faced with that dylema, I take a) forever, especially if the girl I’d be paying was a Prepago paisa… In that case, the deal is clear: I have something you want and you have something I want, “trueque” and everyvbody got what they wanted without bullshitting.

    However, I think the normal relationships are some sort of the a) case arrangement, where the man pays for sex, and the woman gets pleasure, commitment and the resources from the man. A very profitable contract for one part one very limiting for the other.

    But the relationships that the game enables you to enter are relationships (especially the short term ones and the same night lays) where the only benefit for each part involved in the sexual contract is sex. A quid pro quo of sex.

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    • on February 16, 2012 at 2:13 am driveallnight

      Paisa prepagos, mmmm….bueno pues.

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  31. on February 14, 2012 at 3:59 pm Trouble

    I’ll take option A. You hoitty toitty mother fuckers have “paid” for sex one way or another. If you say you haven’t you probably have no pubes.

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  32. on February 14, 2012 at 4:01 pm Anonymous

    Let’s remember that CH wasn’t saying that all men who pay for sex, grinding or massages can’t get it otherwise. That’s not at all what he said but a number of commenters took it that way.

    Reading comprehension guys…reading comprehension.

    Meanwhile, many of the 11% who clicked on a) may have done so by mistake because the brain would have said “click on the one you’d prefer”. If those could take back their mistake, the collective answer would be mostly unanimous.

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    • on February 14, 2012 at 4:06 pm Anonymous

      Also, it takes a fair amount of cluelessness not to realize that the girls many alphas fuck for free aren’t amateur whores with other men. Often the guys at the clubs get their free lays long after the virgin cashed in for cash at age 16.

      The film “Debbie Does Dallas” wasn’t just fantasy. Teens are really like that.

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      • on February 14, 2012 at 4:07 pm Anonymous

        Sorry: are whores for other men

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      • on February 14, 2012 at 5:32 pm Anonymous

        That is very true. Even the ones with so-called alpha boyfriends still whore themselves out.

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    • on February 14, 2012 at 4:41 pm Anonymous

      This is exactly what happened to me.

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    • on February 14, 2012 at 8:48 pm corvinus

      Meanwhile, many of the 11% who clicked on a) may have done so by mistake because the brain would have said “click on the one you’d prefer”.

      I did just that, actually. This poll gives you the option to change your answer, so I do think the 11% would really go chubby chasing.

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  33. on February 14, 2012 at 4:40 pm Anonymous

    My line of thinking is very broad, but don’t you TECHNICALLY pay for ALL women? I mean how many girls are going to let you at the goodies without at least a noticeable investment of time, energy, or money? In most non “pay for play relationships”, don’t you usually end up having to sacrifice a healthy combination of all three?

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  34. on February 14, 2012 at 4:54 pm Ouroboros

    Rather pay a whore that will be better looking than the trailer park mammoth.

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  35. on February 14, 2012 at 5:06 pm Mexican pete

    Cigstache,

    O Light of my Life,
    O Fire of my loins

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  36. on February 14, 2012 at 5:06 pm Diomedes

    The irony is that sex for money generally costs a lot less than sex for free.

    There are very thirsty men in this world and the woman in the photo has certainly been fucked. You have to wonder how much these poor fellows have spent on dates, gifts, children, divore settlements and, of course, the cost of wasted time and emotional turmoil from FUCKING THAT. Guarantee you that sad cases have dropped more on that (and other horrid women) on a fuck by fuck basis than they would if they have visited high class escorts during the same period.

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    • on February 15, 2012 at 10:59 am The Devil Himself

      Any man that doesn’t believe that hot hookers are a bargain should take a trip to divorce court to see how much the average Joe is paying for not-so-hot women.

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  37. on February 14, 2012 at 5:08 pm Backdoor Man

    As a guy who has been in an LTR for 16 years, I now understand the allure of hookers. Sometimes, you don’t want the mess and bother of affairs. Ask Elliot Spitzer or other dudes like him; they don’t have trouble attracting pussy, but they don’t want it interfering with their home lives.

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  38. on February 14, 2012 at 5:09 pm Erkko

    From fringe to the Wall Street Journal in, what, three years? Four years? I dunno.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/best_of_the_web_today.html

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  39. on February 14, 2012 at 5:20 pm RedpillTaker

    Are you that much of a slave to femtard BS about “real men” not paying for sex?

    All men pay for sex, all women are whores. The only thing that varies is the labor contract.

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  40. on February 14, 2012 at 5:25 pm Sez

    I honestly can’t believe so many of you picked option b. aside from the fact that fugly is clearly a man with a wig on (why would any fugly decide to fix up her hair but not the rest of the package) I’d rather pay for a decent looking whore than sleep with fugly. If you think about it, we all spend money on women one way or another and even then we spend time on them which could be spent on more ways to get money

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    • on February 14, 2012 at 6:14 pm JCclimber

      Dude obviously didn’t actually READ the question.

      I’d suggest going back and taking it slowly, word for word, next time.

      Maybe then you’ll see why so many “chose” option b.

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    • on February 14, 2012 at 6:45 pm NoQuarterForCatLadies

      Picking option B is not the one you want to do. It’s the one you think is more degrading. So if you voted Option A, that means you are saying you would do Cigstache.

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  41. on February 14, 2012 at 5:35 pm John

    Jordan Van Sloot, Batman Edition

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    • on February 15, 2012 at 7:56 am King A

      Why would she get dressed up in the clown suit to break him free? You’d think her position as doctor in the asylum would have given her better options to spring him quietly.

      Oh, wait. It’s a Batman cartoon. It should have been much sexier. Nerd cartoonists creeping up to the edge of something profound … and ending it like the goofballs they are. As if lifeless latex and schoolgirl falsettos/pigtails are the essence of sexy, and not the psychological submissiveness against which the doctor struggled to resist. Really, Comic Book Guys? Is it so hard a concept to grasp? Worst. Episode. Ever.

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    • on February 15, 2012 at 11:53 am Chris Bechtloff

      That was such a great show. Loved it when I was a kid. Hell even my dad used to like to watch it with me sometimes.

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    • on February 16, 2012 at 7:44 pm Fred Rotten

      Okay, I’ll go ahead and admit it: at around 0:17, I was really hoping the lead doctor would’ve hushed Dr. Quinzel with her pointer finger and said, “Now, let us lez out together,” in a breathy, British-y accent.

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  42. on February 14, 2012 at 5:36 pm chi-town

    for option b it just wouldn’t move.

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  43. on February 14, 2012 at 5:40 pm James

    As if more proof Obama’s beta was needed:

    http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/02/obamas-valentines-day-advice-114421.html

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    • on February 14, 2012 at 11:03 pm corvinus

      It’s safe to say that Michelle wears the pants in that relationship

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      • on February 15, 2012 at 4:36 pm John Norman Howard

        She certainly fills said pants with more authority.

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  44. on February 14, 2012 at 5:50 pm anonymous

    B is more degrading by far

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  45. on February 14, 2012 at 5:57 pm John Norman Howard

    C’mon, ya judgmental bastids… all bodies are good bodies!

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    • on February 15, 2012 at 3:22 am xsplat

      Judgmental=discerning.

      Adjectives are the enemy of clear thinking.

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    • on February 15, 2012 at 5:54 am Aldous huxley

      Ja, its what’s on the inside thats counts. And i certainly wouldn’t want to be inside piggywoman.

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    • on February 15, 2012 at 10:44 am chi-town

      Even heavenly bodies can look like small chubby penises covered with worts.

      http://blogs.discovery.com/.a/6a00d8341bf67c53ef0120a95fe106970b-800wi

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  46. on February 14, 2012 at 6:05 pm Lara

    If you can’t get anyone for free, who turns you on enough to perform, then pay for a hooker. Otherwise, I think it’s worth the effort to find someone who likes you. It will be better for your self esteem.

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  47. on February 14, 2012 at 6:05 pm Fuckaire

    No brainer – Hooker.

    Is that a real human being or some type of a hybrid primate?

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    • on February 15, 2012 at 5:56 pm gaoxiaen

      Looks like some DNA from this.

      https://www.google.com/search?q=steller's+sea+cow&hl=en&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&ei=UTc8T9ifO-ufmQXulqWaCw&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=2&ved=0CAwQ_AUoAQ&biw=1024&bih=538

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  48. on February 14, 2012 at 6:37 pm Anonymous

    Hm…

    I seem to be in the minority here, but there’s theoretical advantages to the ugly woman from a standpoint of self respect and game, if I understand it correctly.

    1. While women can and do settle, the fundamentals of what attracts them do not change even as their own desirability goes down.
    2. Women, while interested in sex, are only interested in sex with a certain type of men. Remember, this is SEX, not “last chance marriage for children” or something similar. This woman is actually attracted to you.
    3. So, her being attracted to you is actually a signal that your game, your attractiveness, is not at absolute zero. You have some capabilities that could translate into further capital.
    4. The sex with the prostitute is an infinite better experience. That’s pretty obvious. However the question offered is not which I would rather DO, but which is more degrading, which weakens me and shows me as the lesser player.

    So, that is my reasoning. Possibly not the best, but it is my view on the situation.

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  49. on February 14, 2012 at 6:52 pm Anonymous

    Clearly, you losers would be lucky to even get choice B, since you are that ugly yourselves. I know Roosh V is.

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    • on February 15, 2012 at 4:21 pm John Norman Howard

      If this moody-tudey post of yours is any indication of your own looks, well… you’d make cigstash look like Bridget Bardot.

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    • on February 16, 2012 at 2:20 am driveallnight

      I’m impressed by your empowerment.

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  50. on February 14, 2012 at 7:04 pm phd

    If cigstache had awesome game, would you then fuck her?

    [heartiste: game doesn’t work for women like it works for men.]

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  51. on February 14, 2012 at 7:04 pm Senior Manchild

    that fat bitch is nasty, you could have at least made it more of a challenge to decide?

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  52. on February 14, 2012 at 7:12 pm Mast Vajority

    Whore. Absolutely. Although it does attest to a mans inability to get laid elsewhere, there is nothing fundementally wrong with paying a woman for sex in my eyes. As a compulsive habit? Yes. Thats an issue. But I like to look at it as greasing a mans sexual wheels. After a horrendous dry spell, it can help to demystify women just enough to feel at ease pursuing others. Then again, that fear can be overcome through determination and willpower.

    When i lost my virginity at 16, it was with a very beautiful girl. Over the course of several months, After I had exchanged fluids, and smelled the smell of her pussy, she accidently bled on my rod (we’ve all been there cmon), had embarassing queef moments…..every last bit of women worship was eradicated from my young mind. Womens prescense underwhelmed me when i was banging that girl….and how did women react to my attitude?

    I was a magnet.

    I eventually fucked one of the most desirable girls in my high school, and ultimately dumped her because she sincerely did nothing for me. I cant tell you how many mens eyes lit up when i mentioned that i’d slept with her, and how many guys thought i was retarded for not continuing to hit it. I didn’t care. She had no hold on me. My ex’s body was much better, in my eyes.

    All this could sound arrogant, but i have to be truthful that this de-mystifying dissapears fairly quickly as you go without sex/love from women (dry spell). And i’ve been there many times since.

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    • on February 20, 2012 at 12:10 am Chris Bechtloff

      I was looking at the paper in the break room at work and saw a comic stip that reminds me of that. It was that one called Zits. The teenage boy is sitting there and his thought bubble has a pic of him and his gf together. Then when she shows up his thought bubble turned to a pic of him alone. Its amazing how time with a woman, even a great one, can truly demystify it.

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  53. on February 14, 2012 at 7:30 pm Senior Manchild

    No contest; a pretty, firm, showered, perfumed caleña for the equivalent of 20 dolars or even 15 minutes with a good enough ecuadoran woman for 8 dolars or… something that escaped the barnyard.

    no contest

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    • on February 16, 2012 at 2:21 am driveallnight

      Mmmmm, calenas….bueno pues.

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  54. on February 14, 2012 at 8:12 pm Diabolos

    I take option three. That’s the one where I burn this fucking bile enriched Earth to nuclear ashes. No man…no man should be made to have seen the cigstash…you are too cruel, man…too cruel…

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  55. on February 14, 2012 at 8:19 pm Rum

    Maggie McNeill, the Honest Courtesan, deserves, imho, to be high on the list of Great Blogs For Men. She has said one thing after another that I had never before considered regarding sex-work but make perfect sense afterwards. And she is for real. She has the same voice when she gives interviews in real life.

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  56. on February 14, 2012 at 8:27 pm Dan

    Charlie Sheen pays for hookers even though he don’t have to, but he’d NEVER fuck that beast. I mean guys still respect him for his alpha attitude. All that respect would go out the window if he was ever caught with that.

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  57. on February 14, 2012 at 8:42 pm Fubsy

    Awwwwwww…if only she wasn’t a smoker!

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    • on February 15, 2012 at 4:23 pm John Norman Howard

      Heh, heh… excellent point. 😉

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  58. on February 14, 2012 at 8:51 pm Gramps

    Choice B would leave you damaged for life. How would you you ever recover? You might eventually commit suicide. You would at least become depressed. I am getting an anxiety attack just thinking about it.

    With Choice A, sure, you can’t be a blood donor anymore, but, what the hell.

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  59. on February 14, 2012 at 9:14 pm Legion

    Cigstash looks like a guy with long hair and giant manboobs.

    Of course then you gotta put up the extra cash for a decent looking hooker. At least the back of her head has to look good.

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  60. on February 14, 2012 at 9:16 pm Murray F. Rottencrotch

    Degradation sets you free.

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    • on February 15, 2012 at 4:25 pm John Norman Howard

      I’ll give you that… once rock-bottom is achieved, everything else is up, up, and away.

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  61. on February 14, 2012 at 9:30 pm Whorefinder

    A. Ask a black guy, he’s done both.

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  62. on February 14, 2012 at 9:32 pm Laconophile

    I had to vote A because A is predicated on the presumption that you couldn’t sleep with cigstash.

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    • on February 15, 2012 at 4:24 pm John Norman Howard

      Well-played, sir… well-played.

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  63. on February 14, 2012 at 9:36 pm Mystery Meat

    Lighten up. That’s Michael Moore’s sister.

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  64. on February 14, 2012 at 10:13 pm a girl

    she forgot to shave but remembered to match the srunchies with the butterflies on the t-shirt.

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  65. on February 14, 2012 at 11:46 pm Anonymous

    Cigstache is actually a 24 year old Russian. Say no to smoking kids!!!

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    • on February 15, 2012 at 1:06 pm corvinus

      That’s strange. Must be a stateside Russian. In Kiev, I only saw one fat woman under the age of 35 the whole time I was there. She worked at the McDonald’s by my metro stop. Go figure.

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  66. on February 15, 2012 at 12:10 am sayed

    I clicked A by mistake … making that mistakes makes me feel degraded

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  67. on February 15, 2012 at 12:12 am Rick Derris

    OMG – I would rather have chopsticks driven into my eyes than look at that . . . THING.

    Choice “B” is far more degrading. For a few thousand bucks I could have a great time with Audrey Bitoni. If somebody ripped on me for that, I’d simply reply “I *earned* the cash for that, unlike the 1/2 of the population that gets a check instead of paying taxes, and Audrey left when I was ready to take a nap.”

    Eliot Spitzer might be a jerk but I’d rather have a bad rep for paying to nail Ashley Dupre up the @ss than for hooking up with that shaven Wookiee.

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    • on February 15, 2012 at 7:59 pm AB

      As someone who spent a couple thousand for a great time with Audrey Bitoni when she toured my city, I can tell you: a) worth every penny, b) the nap was great too, c) would not do the Wookie even if you paid me a couple grand.

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      • on February 18, 2012 at 1:52 pm Rick Derris

        N I C E ! ! ! !

        Did you arrange it through Pam Peaks?

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  68. on February 15, 2012 at 12:13 am Shark

    If god is all-good and all-powerful, why does (b) exist?

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    • on February 15, 2012 at 4:26 pm John Norman Howard

      Something about free will… or so I’m told.

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  69. on February 15, 2012 at 12:18 am Wiseup

    A wise man once said that the sex you pay for ends up costing you less.

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    • on February 16, 2012 at 12:40 am whorefinder

      You don’t pay for the sex. You pay for them to leave.

      Well, that, and to look good, do a good job faking that they’re into it, and not nagging you afterwards and giving you a headache.

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  70. on February 15, 2012 at 1:29 am Josecito

    I chose the whore.

    Many a time you can end up with a 16-18yr old sex kitten just getting into the industry.

    It’s certainly cheaper on the soul, my wallet and my self respect to bang a whore instead of that thing.

    Oddly I would theorize that more whores are in better shape physically than most self proclaimed non whore she beasts. I think that plays into this websites main idea of what men really want. It’s supply and demand at work.. men want whores to be quick lays and ideally..the best representation of a beautiful woman they can afford at that moment. The whores know this and promote themselves accordingly.

    Hence you see that the majority of non whores are fat feminist bitches who are not worth a $5 drink, but the whores are in shape, not feminist bitches and are priced to reflect their demand.

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  71. on February 15, 2012 at 2:21 am Not that guy

    Is just me or the picture look photoshoped.

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  72. on February 15, 2012 at 2:48 am Leif

    I wouldn’t put it past some 21st century beta to marry that hideous beast though.

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    • on February 15, 2012 at 4:28 pm John Norman Howard

      I’ve actually seen worse not only get married… but get remarried to a new guy after a divorce… with her kids in tow!

      /filed under Truth Is Stranger Than Fiction… because the latter has to make sense.

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  73. on February 15, 2012 at 3:36 am Thanatosis (@lmMirin)

    Neither, I chose cigstache to be a contrarian. (People that ugly don’t exist)

    Anyone who pays for a hooker due to involuntary celibacy might as well just remove themselves from the gene pool right now.

    Paying for a hooker includes hoarding resources and purchasing a wife.

    “Don’t forget the most SOUL-CRUSHING choice of all, choice (C):

    Paying for sex on a daily basis (or monthly via check) but NOT getting sex, i.e., having a wife or ex-wife.”

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    • on February 15, 2012 at 4:29 pm John Norman Howard

      Excellent points… especially since nowadays, any guy who can’t get laid just ain’t tryin’ hard enough.

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  74. on February 15, 2012 at 5:00 am Anonymous

    Not really OT, can someone explain the Greek tragedy on a micro-economic level?

    Most of the articles on the net talk of macro-economics, what will happen to the nation and the idea that “150k public service jobs will need to be cut”.

    But what will happen in the average Greek village?

    Will hot Greek women in that village be more or less likely to want an American or British tourist boyfriend in 2012?

    What austerity will the average hot woman’s father be going through that wasn’t the case before? What wealth transfer payments will she not be receiving that her older sisters received, making it fine for them to have local alpha Greek do-nothing unemployed boyfriends?

    Is the current Greek tragedy going to be a boom for employed alphas as compared to the biker or bartender kind? Discuss.

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  75. on February 15, 2012 at 5:31 am boloadobo@gmail.com

    At least B hast the option for falling in love and having a nice relationship.

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  76. on February 15, 2012 at 6:07 am Gil

    Hell, if A had been the option of going into the priesthood or a monastery then I’ve have taken that over B. 8(

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  77. on February 15, 2012 at 6:47 am Hitched

    Showed my 4 yr old son the pic of that beast, he says “Dad she is just gross!”.

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  78. on February 15, 2012 at 7:35 am Gramps

    Way OT of this thread, but a point worth reminding backsliding betas:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/15/us/british-robbery-suspect-edward-maher-arrested-in-missouri.html?_r=1&hp

    Note how many children his son has by various women, all who complained later he was controlling and abusive. He sounds like a sociopath. He was fairly successful with women, it seems.

    Just something to reflect upon on this special day. It is amazing how often the Chateau’s philosophy is proven true. Scary, really.

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  79. on February 15, 2012 at 9:06 am oi

    Implying long term female partners provide you with sex past the first hooking years (you’re the meat she hooks).

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    • on February 15, 2012 at 4:30 pm John Norman Howard

      Contestant for thread winnah!

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  80. on February 15, 2012 at 9:30 am Redleg

    1,800+ people are deluding themselves. It was either Roosh or CH who extolled the virtue of NOT settling for less during a rut, because it is unsatisfying and brings you down. B) is about as LESS as you can get.

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  81. on February 15, 2012 at 11:25 am Penguin

    http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2012/02/15/oopsy_3.html

    Middle-aged woman, Charlotte Cory, is interviewed in the Daily Mail about impulsively ditching her 62-year-old husband, and how he spent months weeping into his pillow:
    “Five days after I walked out on him, Malcolm moved his new girlfriend into our house. He had met an 18-year-old Eastern European girl in an internet cafe a day or two after I left, and she was now his girlfriend.”

    That’s good, but this exchange in the comments is better.

    (Who would move a total stranger into his house?)

    A man with a working penis. – Amy Alkon

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  82. on February 15, 2012 at 11:52 am Chris Bechtloff

    I dont think I physically could with B. First of all shes fat. Not out of shape, not chubby, fucking fat. Second of all shes ugly as sin. Third of all shes a smoker (personally cant stand that) and even if you decided to just close your eyes and pretend shes not a troll, you just know she smells bad.

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  83. on February 15, 2012 at 12:01 pm 1A asshole

    Actually I dont pay whore for having sex with me, but to fuck off later

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    • on February 15, 2012 at 4:46 pm Sturm

      Pretty much that’s what the guys with money and status do: They don’t NEED to pay for hookers, but they do it anyway because it’s convenient.

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  84. on February 15, 2012 at 12:51 pm Blue

    I’d rather do blow off a hookers tits than, hell, 90% of legal activities I can think of.

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  85. on February 15, 2012 at 1:18 pm what

    Just turn off the lights!! heheheh!!

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  86. on February 15, 2012 at 1:34 pm The Man of Mystery

    Only three words describe what happened to my penis when I saw that photo: stack of dimes.

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  87. on February 15, 2012 at 1:59 pm Phoenix

    Option B is the most degrading. I’ll pay the whore and be ok with it. The question is, how much would I pay though?

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    • on February 15, 2012 at 2:40 pm Paul Canter

      200/hr for a chick who is a solid 7 and whose job is to please YOU. Pretty good value me thinks.

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  88. on February 15, 2012 at 3:15 pm asdf

    Two types of men get escorts. One is omegas, they mainly do so because its the only way to get laid. They mainly do bargain basement and street hookers.

    The other is alphas who have pulled a lot of ass, know they can pull ass, but don’t always want to be in the game. Sometimes, you just want to order sex the way you order a pizza. There exists a high end escort market for these types, and you see many powerful men use these services.

    There are also a few betas trapped in sexless or boring sex marraiges somewhere inbetween.

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    • on February 16, 2012 at 2:37 am driveallnight

      “The other is alphas who have pulled a lot of ass, know they can pull ass, but don’t always want to be in the game. Sometimes, you just want to order sex the way you order a pizza.”

      I once barfined a cute girl in SE Asia and charged it to my hotel room. Found it itemized on my tab at checkout as “BAR/MISC.”

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  89. on February 15, 2012 at 3:23 pm aliasclio

    Well, on top of her other impediments, this woman looks angry and a little dangerous, so I wouldn’t blame any man for avoiding her. All the same, I think there might be a pretty woman in there underneath the fat, the facial hair, and the fury.

    As for the “narrative to the contrary” that states that prostitutes are usually unhappy and abused women, I don’t know. Do you realise that feminists today usually favour legalizing the trade of “sex workers”, and that they generally argue that sex work is no more degrading than any other kind of paid employment? And when have you ever believed a feminist (of the radical persuasion) about anything?

    Respectfully,

    Alias Clio

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    • on February 15, 2012 at 6:03 pm gaoxiaen

      She’s just hungry.

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  90. on February 15, 2012 at 3:35 pm Phinn

    Option B is definitely more degrading, especially once you account for the fact that afterwards, you will have gouged out your eyeballs, cut off your genitals and given yourself a DIY lobotomy with a kebab skewer just to make the haunting images go away.

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  91. on February 15, 2012 at 5:12 pm Anonymous

    Ever see the Beta film “28 Days Later”? End of the world and two women left. Even then, the two white knighters can’t bear the idea that there will be competition among soldiers to impregnate the females and start the world again. So, for their inability to grasp the changed dynamic, they are taken to be executed by the other males.

    But, of course, one escapes and becomes the hero. Women end up in more danger than ever.

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  92. on February 15, 2012 at 5:26 pm Anonymous

    Would you fuck prostitutes if you were paid money for it?

    http://web.orange.co.uk/article/quirkies/Dozens_apply_for_brothel_inspector_job

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  93. on February 15, 2012 at 7:20 pm Nicole

    Here’s something for Maya. It illustrates the difference that caring makes in even a very imperfect looking woman’s appearance.

    I have changed the shape of nothing, just took the excess hair off her face and put on some eyeliner, lipstick, and nail polish, and loosened the hair.

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    • on February 15, 2012 at 7:46 pm Max Coxwell

      Nicely done…

      Now imagine her getting down to a normal weight, and dressing better as well.

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      • on February 15, 2012 at 10:50 pm Nicole

        She would be beautiful if she did. So it’s kinda sad. All her ugliness isn’t natural. It’s like a costume she wears because something in her mind is damaged.

        If she’s straight, I doubt she even likes sex, and if she does, she has some serious issues around it.

        I could be wrong, but from what I’ve observed in men, y’all seem to have less of a problem even in erection terms, with legitimate ugliness and defects than you do with I guess what could be called acquired defects.

        I’ve known guys who seemed very happy with women who were all manner of busted by genes or accidents or life happening. The only time a guy ever told me he was hurt by his girlfriend’s appearance (despite loving her anyway) was in the case of a woman who refused to shave, ate sugar like it was the end of the world, and had the neck rash to go with it, and had bad hygiene.

        For his sake, I had a talk with that girl.

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    • on February 15, 2012 at 8:33 pm itsme

      yeah, she passes the boner test now.

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    • on February 16, 2012 at 9:37 am Phinn

      That’s a great improvement.

      Give her a little smile and take away the cigarette, and I might be able to look at her for more than two seconds.

      Still can’t think about touching it without wanting to vomit, of course, but at least now she looks human.

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    • on February 16, 2012 at 1:34 pm Maya

      Wow, that’s nice …

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      • on February 18, 2012 at 12:11 am dan

        Still couldn’t bring myself to do her. Guys with decent experience will factor out the makeup. The morning after and all that.

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  94. on February 15, 2012 at 7:42 pm ancalgon

    Trick question to weed out femcunts.

    Barring “contrarians” who might want to make some sort of literary point , there is no way any man who reads this site will say that paying to get a whore is more degrading than fucking cigstache.

    So we have around 11.67% feminazi/mangina readership.

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  95. on February 16, 2012 at 12:14 pm houndofdoom

    Whore. I wouldn’t fuck that pig with a stolen dick.

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  96. on February 16, 2012 at 12:35 pm Anonymous

    Did you get permission from GBFM before using a pic of his wife?

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  97. on February 16, 2012 at 9:30 pm anacreon

    What about between cigstache and a beautiful, effeminate blond 18 yr old French boy?

    [heartiste: lol. wow, way to screw with everyone’s comfortable ennui.]

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    • on February 19, 2012 at 11:58 pm Chris Bechtloff

      A buddy of mine used to always say about ugly trolls like cigstache, “If all women looked like that Id be gay”

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  98. on February 17, 2012 at 2:05 am Burton

    one troll to rule them all…

    Good one!

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  99. on February 18, 2012 at 11:44 pm Gunslingergregi

    Anon
    Don’t forget the most SOUL-CRUSHING choice of all, choice (C):

    Paying for sex on a daily basis (or monthly via check) but NOT getting sex, i.e., having a wife or ex-wife.

    ”””””””

    hahahahahaaha

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  100. on February 18, 2012 at 11:46 pm Gunslingergregi

    on February 14, 2012 at 4:11 pm | Reply Diego Sigma
    oneitis, maurice?

    ””””

    omg oh shit
    he he he

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  101. on February 18, 2012 at 11:50 pm Gunslingergregi

    if there is one thing ciggash has done it is make an impact even years later

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  102. on February 19, 2012 at 7:08 pm Ken_in_SC (@Ken_in_SC)

    When I lived in the Philippines, it was my game to get hookers to meet me for free after they had finished their duties. Of course I had to pay them the first time, for them to get to know me and like me. I was there for two years and had two or three different girls a week. Many hookers enjoy sex as much as their customers do. They don’t always do it for money. I once got a blow job for a Susan B. Anthony dollar. The price goes down the more they like you. Good times.

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  103. on February 21, 2012 at 2:58 pm Anon

    Good God, that’s the ugliest man I’ve ever seen.

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  104. on February 21, 2012 at 4:07 pm itsme

    CIGSTACHE IS MY WINGMAN.

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  105. on February 22, 2012 at 7:33 pm Molly

    I can tell few here have had much contact with hookers. I’ve dated about 250, and you end up with some real interesting experiences. For one thing, I’ve noticed that black women who trick seem to have much less hatred for whites. I even had a black hooker tell me, “ooh, you’re cute, why you be datin’?” Another one claimed to be the sister of the famous local crack kingpin (now in federal prison for life), and that she had an Uzi under her sweater, which was a downer because I really wanted to suck those tits. Another time, a cute though pudgy blonde seemed pleased when I detailed the type of nastiness I was looking for, saying, “I’m the kind of girl you like.”
    Then there was the gorgeous 19-year old who bemoaned getting into heroin, telling me she did it because her boyfriend was in a band and it seemed like the cool thing to do at the time. Then there are the interesting collateral effects, like the time I went to the clinic worried about HIV. The gay physician asked me if I was doing boys or girls, and when I said girls, he told me, “don’t worry about it.” So much for PC indoctrination.

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  106. on February 24, 2012 at 11:08 am Bo Ergu

    I’m from Hong Kong, and it’s a no-brainer for me: (b) is more degrading by a light-year!

    Paying for sex in this part of the world (i.e. Hong Kong, China, Taiwan, Japan, Thailand, Singapore, etc.) is a FAR better experience than in the West. It’s cheaper (though not by much); the girls are younger, hotter, nicer, and more feminine.

    Within 2 hours’ reach from where I live, there are literally more than a million of these girls, which, by the way, accounts for about 0.14% of the female population of China. In other words: they just cannot be that bad; as a matter of fact, one immediately loses count of how many of them are gorgeous.

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  107. on March 7, 2012 at 8:37 pm grim

    It’s a moot point; there’s no way I’d be even able to get an erection for #2, no matter how hard I tried.

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