A reader asked if there were any books I could recommend that explored the psychology of women. I suggested “Story of O” and “9 1/2 Weeks”. (The latter was originally a book which is much better than the movie version.)
There is a maxim among the pick-up community that if you want to know what women want it’s better to watch what they do than listen to what they say. Very true. However, if you are going to listen to what a woman says for clues about her innermost desires, or read what she writes, you would do well to pay attention to what a woman says TURNS HER ON. Not what she says she wants in a hypothetical husband or boyfriend but what she specifically describes that got her horny and hungry for loving penetration. Any editorial commentary about the ideal man can be safely ignored.
The two books above, both written by women and featuring very beautiful female protagonists, are wide-open windows to the id of women’s sexual natures. What we find there is shocking to most, dispiriting to some, and unsurprising to a few. Women reading these books will, despite themselves, become uncomfortably aroused. Men will discover ancient stirrings within themselves they may have thought civilization and a PC academic indoctrination stamped out.
The beatings and brandings the women in the books suffer, provoke, and then eagerly anticipate in turn are distractions from the main message, which is that the self-confidence and exquisitely suffocating domination of the male characters caused the women to fall so helplessly in love with them that the men could do anything, make any demand, and the women would happily go along just to keep their love. Some men can handle this awesome power, some can’t. The man in 9 1/2 Weeks was consumed by his power as much as his lover, and it got the better of him.
These books, taken together with the real world observations of men who actually live lives like those of the men in the books, tell us what women want.
They want a man who takes charge.
A master.
Adopt the attitude of the master, and women will revert to their naturally submissive essence faster and more profoundly than you can scarcely imagine, and no amount of feminist propaganda, insulating credentials, or careerist ladder climbing will stand in the way of their joyous, even relieving, surrender to your intoxicating dominance and confidence.
women dream not of eaquals, but of Masters.
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They want a man who takes charge.
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To clarify: women don’t just want a man who is a master of the woman, but also a master of themselves.
Guys who take time to think of a solution are usually perceived as weak by a woman’s hamster. Always make your decisions with confidence, and back those up with confident contingencies.
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…and never admit to making a mistake.
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This is so true. The other day the gf got mad at me for “copying” her and starting a blog about jiu jitsu(link in my name) because she thinks mine will do better than hers and I will steal the spotlight again.
I told her I wanted to do the blog, it was good for me and it was good for her too. Then talked about how it isn’t a competition and assured her that hers will turn out great but I never apologized. She calmed down, asked for a hug, told me she loved me and I was a great boyfriend. Half an hour later she couldn’t keep her hands off me.
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Wow. You sound very beta.
There’s no way a woman (here an ltr gf) would even think of challenging me like this.
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This is an important point. A man who is beta but then in frustration finally blows up at a woman is not reestablishing dominance, he’s really displaying that he’s hurt and he’s not incontrol of himself or his relationship. There is no easy solution to rebounding from months/years of beta behavior, but simply exploding in rage (which you’ll probably apologize for) ain’t it. It simply reinforces the perception that you are weak weak weak. A confident guy in control of himself rarely loses it nor needs to.
[heartiste: precisely. and, in fact, the best time for a man to “lose it” is when his girl least expects it. all the great alphas lull their victims into a false sense of complacency and harmony, only to unload on them at the end, when their defenses are at their lowest.]
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Great point. Holding your anger in until you just blow up is also seen as psycho/scary (and not the kind chicks get wet for).
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Seconded. Violence (physical / verbal) should be peppered (as if it were seasoning) in interactions.
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Good comment, Mr. Roach.
Heartiste,
“… all the great alphas lull their victims into a false sense of complacency and harmony, only to unload on them at the end, when their defenses are at their lowest”
What are you talking about?
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Smacking a bitch around. Sort of like medicine. The kind of thing you need a hefty dose of. (For your own sake you understand.)
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Women want a master … “that other women want”.
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Truth. Ferd even touched on this today in his latest post.
I’m glad the Chateau and other bloggers aren’t afraid to write like this. It gives betas hope and Alphas inspiration.
But what good does it to be the Master of a maiden who can’t cook, clean, or speak without using the word “like”?
[heartiste: there are forces in motion even the alpha male can’t contain.]
And they wonder why we just want them for their bodies…
[this is a great example of the disconnect between women’s words and actions: secretly, most women LOVE being objectified.]
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When I went to Kiev, I was a bit surprised (at the time) to find that the mail-order bride industry — and yes, it’s still big over there — is run by Ukrainian women. They still seem to think that Western Europeans and Americans are more masculine / “alpha” than their own guys.
I’m convinced that one major effect, if not intention, of Communism (i.e., socialism, feminism, anti-racism) is to beta-ize white men. The fact that younger Ukrainian men are starting to pull good-looking Western women would suggest to me that the tide is actually turning. They still openly sneer at “gay marriage” over there, which is nothing if not a good thing.
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Every western woman I ever saw in Ukraine walked around looking like she just shit herself. They blabber on and on about peripheral ways to make themselves look better and studiously avoid the elephant in the living room, that they are outclassed there as women. If Ukrainian men want them, they can have them.
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In the two cases I knew of where a Ukrainian man had a Western girlfriend, the women were slender, in-shape HB8’s or so (one was Danish, the other American). Makes sense; one wouldn’t expect most Western women to be able to catch a Ukrainian guy’s eye. And it was funny watching the Western girls I was working with switch to wearing exclusively skirts and high heels. They almost had a chance, if they weren’t pudgy and had brought contacts instead of glasses.
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>>>and had brought contacts instead of glasses
Unless it was Eva Angelina 🙂
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And how many HB8+s walk up and down the Krishatek every day? I see several world class beauties every day in Ukraine when I’m there. I could go for weeks without seeing one here in the USA. The Ukrainian average is an 8 IMHO.
[heartiste: ukrainians are possibly the hottest group of women in the world. one day, science will make a good-faith effort to figure out what the fuck happened over there in the eastern europe fertile crescent to produce such a concentration of female beauty.]
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Ha ha,
Here’s a comment made by a Canadian guy after he came back from a visit to Croatia: “I’ve never seen a place with so many gorgeous women and so many dorky guys”
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I agree. I’m mostly talking about AW there anyway. You see women in Europe who are competitive with Ukrainian women. There just aren’t as many of them at the high end of the scale. I agree about watching AW transform. However, they are mostly clueless and close to passing out from Hamster exhaustion. Its a great lesson in how little value that American girl you think you love really has in the world SMP.
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Of course,to a feminist,”objectify” means stop talking about how pretty the pretty girls are. Makes them feel bad because they have have hairy faces and elongated clitties!
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It’s like Rush Limbaugh says about how feminism is just to make ugly women feel more important than they are or something along those lines.
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[heartiste: there are forces in motion even the alpha male can’t contain.]
Indeed. The behemoth forged through four billion years of evolution does not suffer the mindless drivel of postmodern cultural brainwashing. It is ruthless in seeking its predetermined goals.
This behemoth is human nature, and none can stop its resurgence from the depths of our dark souls. As it was written, women were the first to succumb to its temptations. And so shall it be, that men will respond with ruthless force to women’s sinister attempts at societal subversion.
It is but a fool who believes that human nature has changed drastically within the past few decades, which amounts to a blink of an eye to old father evolution. The time has come to face the mirror naked and with an honest gaze fathom the grotesque horror which stares back at us.
Pray, for only a god can save us from ourselves…
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For anyone who hasn’t yet, check out DT’s blog. Real talk through and through.
Holding my breath for your next post DT.
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But alas, fear not, for the balance of power will soon shift due to man’s ingenuity.
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just write a goddamn book already and take my money.
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Amen.
I would buy several copies for sad males I know.
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YES. YSE YSE. A Thousand times yes.
Heartiste, can you do me a huge favor? Can you quickly scan through the ancient quotes down this list http://www.theabsolute.net/minefield/preview.html Particularly the ones regarding love, women, sex etc. Your thoughts and many of these thoughts are all in one, but I’m curious as to see where you guys disagree.
There was this one saying. And I remember soo many times with my past gf’s that their eyes were bedazzled and under hypnosis whenever they saw me completely entirely focused on something.
Silly ass television telling guys to confess their feelings, and to be loving, and to be intimate. They only need to listen to Katy Perry’s E.T “Wanna be a victim, ready for infection.. wanna feel your powers” to see what they crave.
Priests get laid. Dictators get laid. Tyrants get laid. Businessmen get laid. Criminals get laid. Athletes get laid. Artists get laid. Even if they didn’t have fame,. Svengali made her fall in love. Sam brooks made Anna fall in love. Rasputin made everybody fall in love.
Hubbies sharing feelings and intimacy… gotta get paid.
A.B. Dada, that’s unfortunate because a bit of time and effort and a pros/cons chart could result in a BETTER DECISION. But boldness anda a lack of hesitation reign supreme cuz girls gotta stay true to their feelings eh? Tell me.. when you are on your business ventures, what mental processes do you undergo. Is it strictly economic?
If you guys are familiar with Lord of the Flies, the brainy character piggy is upset that the charismatic jocky Ralph is head leader, the arbiter of democracy, when it was him that had the genius. Donatello second to Leonardo. Would the smarties benefit from wielding that power? You tell me.
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A.B. Dada, that’s unfortunate because a bit of time and effort and a pros/cons chart could result in a BETTER DECISION.
I think for me, personally, I’ve entrained my so-called “gut instinct” to reduce the chance of making really bad decisions. In regards to women, there’s no worry about bouncing a girl by accident because there are others just waiting to be met.
But boldness anda a lack of hesitation reign supreme cuz girls gotta stay true to their feelings eh? Tell me.. when you are on your business ventures, what mental processes do you undergo. Is it strictly economic?
In regards to business, I tend to go not just by gut, but by strong market analysis done well before I make a decision on expansion (or contraction). One of my recent business start-ups just had its first profitable month, but that was planned over a year in advance. Over that time, I also did a set-aside for expansion, and now that I have the funds available, I am able to make an instant-decision on expansion based solely on planning for it. If a deal comes up, I can jump on it without a second thought.
The start-up I am managing and funding in the Shengen happened with an almost “instant” decision — basically 1 day of meeting with a new contact — but it was based on nearly 4 years of saving capital and building contacts knowing full well that I would jump at an opportunity if it made itself available. That’s how that deal happened, pretty much overnight after meeting the new contact through my local network out there.
Since my failure rate is around 45% (3/7 long term) and my success rate is around 30% (2/7 long term), I don’t really think more diligent and deeper decision-making would really make a difference. My biggest successes came because I pulled the trigger when no one else was speedy enough to, and my 2 worst business losses happened in slow motion over a few months, and looking back there was little I could have done to prevent them.
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“King of the Mountain: The nature of Political Leadership”
A fascinating read by Ludwig, print out of the University of Chicago.
Not only do Authoritarian leaders like dictators or Kings, lead in rates of alcoholism, drug abuse, mental illness, criminality, they also have a far higher number of sexual partners and wives, than do democratic leaders [whom typically have 1-3.]
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kim jong il was rumored to be quite the lady’s man.
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I heard he was ronery
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alpha.
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Nothing drives the point home more than watching a woman of some mexican cartel guy hack off a man’s head and then smile at her master’s appreciation of her skinning skills.
And more troublingly, when you read the following news:
40% of Mexican Schoolgirls Dream of Romance with a Drug Gangster
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Wouldn’t be surprised if it is actually much higher. The cartels hold all the power in Mexico now, only makes sense for the females to gravitate towards them.
Funny how the MSM rarely talks about how fucked Mexico is.
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They want us to keep importing their serfs.
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What other choice have they? 40% of Mexican men are drug dealers. The rest pick berries. That’s what you get when you mix Conquistadors with dumb indians. Zorro cannot save them.
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Yet another aspect of Game that works wonders on children, especially teens (both genders) and daughters.
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There are some women who totally understand this…and revel in it.
One of them is Lykke Li, who in her great song, “I Follow Rivers” is completely honest about being the totally submissive female, with Daddy issues at the core.
Great song, great lyrics.
Oh I beg you, can I follow
Oh I ask you, want to always
Be the ocean, where I unravel
Be my only, be the water where I’m wading
You’re my river running high, run deep and run wild
I, I follow, I follow you, deep sea baby
I follow you
I, I follow, I follow you, dark doom honey
I follow you
He a message, I’m the runner
He’s the rebel, I’m the daughter waiting for you
You’re my river running high, run deep run wild
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I can hear the women grinding their knuckles into their keyboards.
[heartiste: …from climaxing. >} ]
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there’s so many instances of a woman playing trilby to some criminal’s svengali in the news that it proves ch’s point. charles manson comes to mind-he charmed middle-class girls who seemed to have had the normal moral socialization in their backgrounds. this was soon subverted apparently when they went on a bloody raid in hollywood, stabbing sharon tate and others.
WTF?
or the folie a deux or whatever the f”’ it is when a serial killer has a female accomplice, the woman having no prior criminal background.
these may be outliers, or they show what normal women are capable of if they meet the oh-so-very-wrong guy. i hope i’m wrong.
[heartiste: even if these women are outliers, what their existence in proportionally greater numbers compared to men tells us is that the sexual spectrum upon which women reside is shifted considerably in the direction of swooning for dominant, powerful, confident lovers who lead them on adventures, whether for ill or good. in short, the female inclination to submit is a part of her innate psychosexual character. and, in times when it is not beaten out of them by a concerted cultural propaganda campaign, the inclination to dominate is a part of men’s innate psychosexual characters.]
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What a waste. I recently saw Valley of the Dolls and got to see Sharon Tate in a film for the first time. She was not only a beauty, but also seemed to be a kind and decent human being. They cut her baby from her womb. That’s some sick shit. Manson is a scumbag.
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Well,re Manson,is it relevant that the girls all seemed to be fairly homely,I dont recall a real woman in the bunch. And the one that tried to shoot Ford,Sarah Jane somebody–what a fat cow pig! Sgharon Tate:Uber Alpha Woman. Why was she married to that ugly nasty little jew child molester?
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Why was a whoring starlet married to an ugly nasty little jew movie director? Hmmm… I’ll have to mull that over for awhile and get back to you.
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I’m waiting with baited breath, Herr Howard. Shouldn’t be tough, though: he was foreign, had wealth and fame (DHV) and was/is an artist (IE he passionately worked on things unrelated to her).
The pedo thing, if she knew about it, probably drove her CRAZY, knowing she could never become YOUNGER than a competitor. That may have helped him more than it hurt him.
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Irony not your strong suit, bubeleh?
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Polanski escaped from a concentration camp as a 12 year old boy and hid out in the countryside in Poland for several months until the Red Army came through, I believe. I think he was captured in the Warsaw ghetto uprising. I can almost forgive it in a man who was likely very scarred by that experience and became emotionally arrested. Then again, he might just be a serious creep and deserve jail. It was a long time ago and the woman forgave him and got her 15 minutes of fame out of the deal. He was also screwing Nastasia Kinsky in the film Tess, when she was about 13. Nastasia was a serious babe in her prime and already quite pretty. That film is very powerful and about this very subject- domination and control of a woman. Polanski is a good director. Hollywood apparently also has a lot of pedophilia going on. Its Hollywood’s dirty secret.
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Sara Jane Moore never met Charly, you’re thinking of Lynette Fromme. Please get your assassins straight. Squeaky was WAY skinny.
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What does the scumbag’s religion have to do with it?
Manson was born a christian. So what cret?
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Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain… or his picklesnoot.
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John you send me off on the most interesting searches with your archaic insults. Some of them are so old and quaint that I can’t even get mad about them, it’d be like hating an old, toothless man with a cute hat.
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The author of “Helter Skelter,” Vincent Bugliosi, pointed out that Manson’s
seduction method broke all possible taboos, and involved convincing homely girls that they were beautiful, or to imagine that when they were making love with Manson, that he was their father. In trying the Tate-LaBianca murder case, Bugliosi emphasized Manson’s domination over his followers. He orchestrated orgies and dosed everyone with LSD, taking a little less himself so he could remain in charge. Manson also, Bugliosi pointed out, generally attracted flat-chested girls. Manson didn’t set the bar very high, though, and anticipating sentencing, noted that there is “plenty of sex in prison.”
@Tyrone, Sharon’s baby was not removed from her womb. That was a common misconception, though he was autopsied and would have survived had Sharon’s body been discovered within 20 minutes of her murder. Crime scene photos, while repugnant, are readily available for anyone brave enough to look at them.
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And in a pinch a chick will even take a rebellious manic idiot. She’ll even stuff contraband up her twat socket for him.
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Proof the women just love a dominant man. Physically, old Adolf was nothing special, but watch these German Girls wet their pants when Hitler speaks to them. I believe they used to put all the best looking girls at the front of the crowd.
http://www.ushmm.org/propaganda/archive/film-german-girls-rally/
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Check out the personals on ALT.com. Female subs outnumber female doms 99-to-1. ‘Nuff said.
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With a 99% percentage figure, “female sub” is department of redundancy department. My question is: what are the stats for males? 99-to-1 doms? I rather doubt it.
[heartiste: men, as in every other measurable or observable personality trait, exhibit more variance than women. (note: i said “personality trait”, not sexual attraction trait, where men exhibit startling universally shared preferences.)]
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Whatever distribution they would have naturally, men are socialized against dominance far more than women are socialized against submission, for obvious reasons.
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yeah, i always wondered what that was about. i have a minor masochistic bent that i just assumed was entirely attributable to my _very_ catholic indoctrination (writhing statues of tormented saints in church when i was growing up, until (i guess) a lightbulb went off in some priest’s head that all this was …unhealthy perhaps?)
but later it seemed to me that female masochism was the erotic distillation of the need to be dominated, grotesquely magnified. as all erotic longings are, they rarely being characterized by sobriety or good sense. aha, haha, ha.
anyway, not all women are sexually masochistic, although all but outliers want dominant, if not domineering men.
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carolyn,
What most masochistic women love, besides the physical endorphins rush, is the undivided attention of a dominant man playing her body like an instrument, her screams and squirms only serving his delight.
Also of course, there is shunting the full responsibility of what happens in the bedroom to the man. You are just a poor helpless little thing who got forced into this….
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‘…there is shunting the full responsibility of what happens in the bedroom to the man.’
probably a lot to do with that. that’s where the repressive catholic brainwashing(or women who’ve absorbed subtly negative messages) vs. yearning for sexual satisfaction finds a convenient resolution.
but there’s more to it that is probably hardwired and cross-cultural. not arguing with you.
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Case in point: Natasha and Anatole in War and Peace.
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Just don’t mention John Norman (author of the Gor books) who makes this very point in an exaggerated sword and planet SF way unless you want someone to have an apoplexy attack.
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See also: The Colossus trilogy by D.F. Jones. Main character’s wife loses all attraction to him after being shacked up with a brute.
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Even the gay Stephen Sondheim got it, on one level. In his (great, but that’s just me) musical “Assassins,” he has Squeaky Fromme singing a love song to Charles Manson.
I am nothing.
You are wind and devil and God,
Charlie,
Take my blood and my body
For your love.
Let me feel fire,
Let me drink poison,
Tell me to tear my heart in two,
If that’s what you want me to do…
I am unworthy of your love,
Charlie darling,
I have done nothing for your love.
Let me be worthy of your love,
Set me free.
I would come take you from your cell…
I would crawl belly deep through hell…
Baby, I’d die for you…
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SOME women. Maybe most. But if not even all women are attracted to men (I mean, are you going to deny lesbians exist?), some women are not aroused by men controlling them.
[heartiste: NAWALT is not an argument.]
The more I see this stuff written, the more I feel I should just spend my life single. I don’t want to get into a relationship and then have the guy start trying to dominate me, and totally ignore it when I tell him to stop because some article said I’d like it even if I said I don’t.
[if a guy you are in a relationship with “starts trying” to dominate you, it is already too late. domination must begin at the outset, otherwise incongruency issues will affect your attraction for him. later efforts at domination often signal overcompensation for a beta demeanor that the girl has become acclimated to. i would counsel nondominant men to introduce aspects of domination very slowly, so as not to scare away borderline lesbians like yourself, should they happen to find themselves dating women such as you. even sir stephen in story of O had O’s will broken earlier by his friend rene’s tender (heh) ministrations.]
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You’re thinking of a guy who is trying to micro- manage your life. That’s not what this post portrays as the master. The guy you’re thinking of is a drab who has no better pursuits in life other than trying to control his spouse or girlfriend. The master is someone you’d want to follow and not because of fear but because of respect and trust.
[heartiste: respect and trust, yes. but oftentimes, too often for polite discussion, fear works as well.]
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What kind of fear? Fear of loss, yes, but actual fear of bodily harm or psychological damage, no.
[heartiste: rihanna disagrees. (and before you say it, rihanna had a choice to leave chris brown and not go back to him, with no repercussions. she did neither.
ps look up stockholm syndrome. women are affected by it much more than are men.]
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I don’t speak for rihanna. What did you think I was going to say? Of course she had a choice. Not an easy one.
[heartiste: only because she was in love with chris brown.]
If she had a child, I’d be willing to bed it’d be a lot easier to make the right decisions.
[children are no inoculation against bad decisions made by women in the throes of love.]
I feel sorry for rihanna. She’s in a worse situation now than she was before. Before she had the world’s sympathy. Now she’ll have no one’s.
[then why feel sorry for her? she went back to a man who beat her silly. she made her choice. choices have consequences.]
I’m pretty sure Stockholm syndrome is sympathizing with your kidnapper/abuser, right?
[sympathizing and even falling in love. evo-psych would predict that women would quickly fall in love with their captors rather than risk death.]
Well, it makes sense that women would be more affected by it as we are the more empathetic sex and more likely to be abused in the first place. It makes absolute perfect sense to me that if one was abducted, they would neutralize their fear by allying themselves with their abductor.
[the evidence is that women go beyond insincere allying. they are genuinely joining emotional forces with their captors.]
Part of it, I believe, is a protective device. Denial, in my opinion, is actually there to protect us. I remember reading something about dream theory that there is a part of our subconcious that prevents us from remembering dreams that are too violent/disturbing. Denial functions in the same kind of way. If one were to realize that a person they were involved with were incredibly dangerous, they would show fear and make themselves more vulnerable. If our subconcious does us a favor and supresses that fear, we do not act afraid and, therefore, make ourselves less vulnerable to attack. The key is to show no fear.
[this is all pretty lies and eager rationalizing by you to avoid a very uncomfortable truth about women’s nature.]
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HAHAHAHA! Willing to “bet”- talk about a Freudian slip!
(tttt= too tired to type)
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“In the throes of love”- ah, well, I guess that is different.
I feel sorry for her because no one else will. (I hope I never get abducted!)
“joining emotional forces”- right.
“this is all pretty lies…”- Maybe; I’ve seen some pretty ugly behavior by women and had to squelch my own fair share, some of which may just have leaked out from time to time. I’m just expressing my experience. I am eager. I always sit at the front of a class:)
But what is the biological purpose of such behavior? Isn’t it at the root self-preservation? Is this another example of us far outliving old wiring?
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lzozozlzozzol
hey i think you sisspleed some things in your paaseeage! “The more I see this stuff written, the more I feel I should just spend my life single. I don’t want to get into a relationship and then have the guy start trying to dominate me, and totally ignore it when I tell him to stop because some article said I’d like it even if I said I don’t.”
here if ifixed it for you!
The more I see this stuff written, the more I feel I should just spend my life single. I don’t want to get into a relationship and then have the girl start trying to butthex me with dirvocre court or with her fmeinsist teachings which got her assocked dozens of times in colege and deousleed zlozlzlzzzl, and totally ignore it when I tell her to stop butthhexting because some article said I’d like teh girl to butthext other guys while i paid for it even if I said I don’t. lzozlzlz
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Exactly
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I’m starting to think that most lesbianism is bs. I think most women are bi-sexual or asexual compared to men.
I think their sexuality is based on something else compared to what drives a man’s sexual desire (testosterone).
I’ve met a few attractive lesbians (not bi) in their 20s and early 30’s and I acted like they didn’t even exist and like i’m the prize instead of being a supplicating beta. They react like straight women do. Their pupils dilate, they start to blush and grin from ear to ear.
I’m thinking they are able to shut off their sexual desire because of the low levels of Testosterone and pursue same sex attraction for reasons only they know.
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Chaz Bono–its all in her head??
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My favorite bartender speaks of lesbians as follows:
“There are two kinds of dykes in the world: the ones who have no other choice, and the ones making the wrong choice.”
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The same might be said for mud sharks… or coal burners, if that’s the preferred parlance howadays.
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“I’ve met a few attractive lesbians (not bi) in their 20s and early 30′s and I acted like they didn’t even exist and like i’m the prize instead of being a supplicating beta. They react like straight women do. Their pupils dilate, they start to blush and grin from ear to ear.”
I’ve seen that too. And I was sooo surprised. Unfortunately, I’m not a male PUA so I can’t make further experiments with this … CH, wouldn’t you try to hit on lesbians and write about the results on this blog? I think you have a fantastic insight into female brain (and your game is perfect) so I think you really are the best choice to experiment with lesbians.
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>>>>>>>>>>I mean, are you going to deny lesbians exist?
ah yes, the mythical lesbian, a creature who is attracted to other women because she loves women, not rationalizing a lack of options. I knew a hot lipstick lesbian couple in their 20’s. They’re married now. To men.
[heartiste: lipstick lezzies are probably just experimenting. bull dykes who look and dress like men are the real deal. female sexuality is more fluid than male sexuality, at any rate, so we would expect to see more of this sort of experimentation among women.]
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a bull dyke is rationalizing her lack of options. because she is fat. if it were otherwise there would also be hot bull dykes.
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But, but… I just KNOW there are hot bull dykes… I’ve seen them in Tarantino movies!
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With lesbian couples, there’s always a male and a female roleplayer. The male roleplayer is the true man trapped in a woman’s body. Since learning Game, I’ve been blown away reading various social cues. One of my gfs knows a lesbian couple, and the “male” lesbian has got game !!!! “He” used kino escalation straight away with my gf, voice tonality and eye contact. There was never a chance I would be out-alpha’d. But…They can fly under the radar because women “aren’t sleazy like men.” I’ve watched the female lesbians and they respond all girly to the male ones game. I suspect that girly lesbians are actually straight, but can’t help their programmed responses to Game, and the hamster then kicks in to say this is “different” or “I must therefore be a lesbian”
GAME IS UNIVERSAL !!!!
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Hermaphrodites. QED.
If you can have a downstairs mix-up from biological causes then ghete’s no reason that a similar process can’t happen in the brain. True lesbians are just women born with faulty attraction modules.
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@D.Darko so true man. I was watching this women’s prison documentary and its all right there. The “family” is run by the biggest most masculine one ( stout, short hair, low voice, aggressive) while the wives are (more) feminine. They even call the bull dyke dad and all. Interesting stuff to watch if you get a chance.
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yeah I’ve heard that’s what automatically happens to incarcerated females. They pair up, with one in the man’s role, and vice-versa…once released, they usually go back to their “normal” lifestyles
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Don’t worry! If you tell a guy you don’t want domination and act like you really don’t, he will probably believe you. It seems most men are beta like that, and want to believe you’re a nice girl. If it doesn’t work the first time, just get another guy. How hard should it be to find a guy who thinks women want only love and affection?
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I hope that you are right.
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How many men can suffer long a lying bitch?
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Seems some will, but really shouldn’t. I’m just saying that if she really means it when she says she doesn’t want dominance (and acts accordingly), she won’t have trouble finding a guy who will accept it and believe it. Acting the opposite of your words is a bad idea.
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She will think she wants kindness, unconditional love and un-earned respect. If she’s unlucky enough to get it, she will believe herslelf fortunate but start to feel increasingly annoyed as time goes on and unable to explain why. She’ll grow fat, petulent, obstinant and rude. Her demands will become irrational, her desires impulsive and unsustainable.
Don’t worry though, she’ll get someone to write her a diagnosis of depression, and under the haze of zoloft she’ll never seriously analyze herself long enough to conclude that she actually wanted a man to tell her what a fat, delluded, naive fuckwit she was and is.
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Yes, it can happen.. But surely a guy can be kind and give a girl conditional (reasonable) love and earned respect without being a supplicating yes-man?
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Its what one would hope.
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I think the whole point of this blog is that the definition of supplicating yes-man keeps getting pushed farther and farther along in women’s heads. Meanwhile, men raised by single mothers are being taught to supplicate EVEN MORE due to the bitterness and loneliness their mothers embody.
The resulting gulf between female’s decreasing tolerance and male’s increasing desperation is upsetting. We all hope for moderate, reasonable middle grounds. Lets hope the genders are still capable of recognizing it when they find it.
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emma, pls remember,
in norway, Dominant Man is
he who asks you
if he has permission to pay bar tab
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If I learned one thing from “Taken in hand”, it’s that there is a HUGE difference between being dominating and being domineering.
Think of that college professor you had a crush on versus a wife beater.
In fact, requiring total control is a weakness…
http://www.takeninhand.com/do.you.have.a.commanding.presence
[heartiste: this is an important distinction that feminists are too stupid to ever grasp. although, to be precise, a lot of those wife beaters are doing pretty well keeping their women in thrall.]
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You’re just looking for a guy you want that other women want too.
But you don’t want to fight for his affection by going against other women.
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Lianne,
There are still many (even most) men like that. However, if you actually meet them you will probably wouldn’t be attracted to them.
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An ardently Christian girl I know once gabbed about how much she loved this book called “Redeeming Love.” So I looked it up, and what is it? A seemingly never ending plot of a beautiful girl dominated from youth until adulthood. Same ‘ole hot chick never choosing to flee from douchebags who abuse her repeatedly, all while coaxing along the beta. The author suggests that the girl could never ever ever make the choice and run away, because she could be found so easily.
The title reflects the ugly truth that once she has been worked over repeatedly by numerous guys, only “redeeming love” can save her and get her that commitment.
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all women are submissives. Some of them just don’t know it yet.
Show them. Draw it out through your own self-mastery.
You can own them.
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Women want to be submissive, objectified.
Yet how often, over last 30 years, do we see women believing the opposite? And trying to act the opposite?
American women didn’t come up with this on their own. It was caused by cultural conditioning from the lords of lies – their PC control of media, the schools.
Key players including feminist Gloria Steinem (now known CIA operative – CIA was ‘taken over’ by ‘Israeli-symapathizer’ elements within the US beginning in 1950s, and continues today )
What the lords of lies understand: you can get the masses trying to act OPPOSITE of their best interests, if only for a few decades.
It never succeeds in long run – (Women ultimately cannot trump their own hardwired tendencies to submit to a powerful man). All that matters is that “believing you can” works temporarily – enough time to overthrow society ( it’s worked)
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Nothing drives the point home more than watching a woman of some mexican cartel guy hack off a man’s head and then smile at her master’s appreciation of her skinning skills.
Are you for real? I call triple bullshit on that one.
If I remember correctly, it was some lover of King Herod who asked St John the Baptist to be decapitated, but someone else did that, not her.
And most men prefer feminine women. And I can’t think of anything less feminine right now than skinning some dude’s head
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The lover’s name was Salome.
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I understand on occasion they actually write operas about such women.
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Ballets too.
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Peelin’ off them thar seven veils weren’t no ballet! 😉
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Call me a homo, but ballet is a misunderstood art form. I love watching ballet. It is in reality veiled eroticism on many levels, especially if seen live. The ballerinas are all beautiful and graceful, as well as half naked. If you’re in Kiev, the ballet is one of the great attractions the city has to offer. Just go to the ticket window and buy a ticket. They have performances almost every night. You also see something besides Swan lake or Nutcracker Suite.
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. I don’t want to get into a relationship and then have the guy start trying to dominate me, and totally ignore it when I tell him to stop because some article said I’d like it
That’s girlthinking. When Heartiste talks about dominance, she thinks “he prefers pepperoni instead of margherita as a pizza flavour, so if he dominates me I will never eat margheritta again” The HORROR~!!
[heartiste: yeah, good point. the full panoply of male dominance is not easily described in a few short quips, so women upon hearing it resort to their predigested perceptions that dominance must mean some misogynistic thing about taking away their right to decide what ice cream flavor they want.]
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Being able to either spot or articulate nuance has never been the mark of the vast majority of women when it comes to argumentation. In quasi-lesbians and femtrolls, you need to bring out the mass spectrometer to find it.
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Well, there’s one sort of nuance they’re pretty good at: “not all women are like that”.
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Is nuance over a flawed point really nuance at all? One would have to believe it is just illogical behavior masked as rational discourse.
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lol perfect.
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“When Heartiste talks about dominance, she thinks “he prefers pepperoni instead of margherita as a pizza flavour, so if he dominates me I will never eat margheritta again” The HORROR~!!”
That is not what I meant. Like the guy above, you seem to think I was taking “domination” to mean “someone micro-managing my life.” I know no one in their right mind is going to try to control what kind of pizza I eat (or anything similarly trivial).
I meant that I do not want:
– sexual domination/BDSM-type stuff.
– people with dominant attitudes. It comes off as arrogant and obnoxious to me. I don’t like people who seem like they think they’re better than everyone.
– someone trying to control the LARGER aspects of my life (and, yes, probably ignoring the smaller ones like what kind of food I want to eat) by expecting me to follow them and just be submissive toward them in general.
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That is, she is projecting the way women actually dominate men: by dictating their pizza choices.
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Why is this an “ugly truth”? It may be surprising and initially unsettling to someone heavily domesticated by our culture, but when rightly understood, does it conflict with anything actually worth wanting? Calling female submissiveness “ugly” is keeping one foot planted in the niceguy paradigm, ISTM.
[heartiste: i’m not calling natural female submissiveness ugly. the reason it is called an ugly truth is because it is unsettling for most people to accept, let alone comprehend. the ugliness describes the reaction and perception upon hearing the truth, not the truth itself.
(i really can’t stand the nerd-like reflex to overanalyze every english colloquialism to death.)]
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“(i really can’t stand the nerd-like reflex to overanalyze every english colloquialism to death.)”
And I’m annoyed by your incessant over-use of pet turns-of-phrase (“tender ministrations”),
[heartiste: the tender ministrations will continue until morale improves.]
mangled run-on sentences littered with dangling participles,
[don’t dis the dangle.]
and a complete lack of understanding of why semicolons are important (e.g. “Coyness was not part of her vocabulary. Hungry copulation was.” Do you see that fragment? Put a damn semicolon between your clauses.),
[rules were made to be broken.]
but I manage.
[i’m all about challenging my readers.]
We’re all suffering for our art, here.
[nerdgasms aren’t art.]
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“Here is a lesson in creative writing. First rule: Do not use semicolons. They are transvestite hermaphrodites representing absolutely nothing. All they do is show you’ve been to college.”
― Kurt Vonnegut
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heh
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I prefer the ellipsis myself…
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Heehee, I was right, Heartiste is too alpha for correct spelling or punctuation.
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Get your story straight. Are they clauses or fragments, Carlos? They are clauses. A sentence must contain at least one clause. Therefore they are correct sentences.
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Boom.
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that’s the last time i’ll take english lessons from someone named carlos.
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No they’re not. Carlos is correct. The two clauses create a run on sentence. I don’t really care anyway, but if you want to correct someone, be correct. Creative writing allows one to break all the rules. I learned early in artfag land that writing the way they tell you to, just gets you published in the New Yorker. If you want to be great and influential, throw the English 101 nonsense out of the window.
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Sigh. An English teacher’s work is never done.
Semicolons join independent clauses. Colons or dashes set off subordinate clauses. A fragment is a phrase or a subordinate clause. Simple sentences are comprised of one independent clause (celibate sentences). Compound sentences have two independent clauses (sexual sentences). Complex sentences have one independent clause and one subordinate clause (threesome sentence). Compound-complex sentences have two independent clauses and one or more subordinate clauses (two shy of an orgy).
Class dismissed! *slaps ruler in menacing manner*
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Class back in session! Complex sentences have one independent clause and one or MORE subordinate clauses.
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Your post actually got me a little horny. Nice job, slut. 😉
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Tell me. When you get to the Emerald City, will you ask for courage or a heart.
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GeishaKate,
Detox my Buttox.
(and yes, ‘buttox’ is the correct spelling in our world).
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Detox your own buttox. (simple-imperative) It sounds messy, and I’m very busy writing sarcastic comments. (compound-declarative)
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Sometimes the bracketed rejoinders alone are worth the price of admission.
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Women want a Master naturally because they innately know that they are in total disarry internally and consistently sabotage themselves with emotion.
They know that a good Leader will help them become more excellent and effective then they could ever hope to become on their own.
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What I got from reading your comments and those of others on the main subject were some of my own:
It’s well known around men’s blogs that females are very good at evading responsibility when cornered, or not.
Some women want a man to be master over many matters so she can fall back upon him for his decisions giving her freedom from making many on her own accord. This gives her opportunity to avoid being recognized as having final responsibility. ‘Daddy’ will look after matters for her.
The borderline or outright masochistic sexual submissive angle is something I’m not at all acquainted with, nor find it desirable. Perhaps it’s the duality of ever present sensuality melded with ever present guilt – giving in to the want of the feeling of being spanked, punished (touched) and lorded over after recognizing the perpetually internal chugging dark-side hampster wheel; a man will contain me and lead me from it and I will like it.
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OT — politician’s hot wife makes sex tape with meth-head construction worker. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/02/25/BADO1NC8OV.DTL
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(i really can’t stand the nerd-like reflex to overanalyze every english colloquialism to death.)]
Exactly.
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Women are submissive–not stupid! if you want to dominate her she is gonna have to get satisfied. That means good loving!Nothing funnier than a beta trying to read this and put the smack down on some modern girl.
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Me: ‘Bark like a dog.’
Her: ‘Ruff ruff.’
Me: ‘No, higher. Like a poodle.’
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This blog has helped me manage and master my beta reflexes, which, in-turn, has helped me manage and master, with increasing efficiency, the handful of women I’ve dated since discovering The Chateau(about 10 months ago). I feel I have complete mastery over the girl I’m dating now.
It took me a while to calibrate and sharpen my weapons of seduction, but now I feel like I’m entering the zone.
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Concerning the tweet about young girls fighting over the mini-alpha skittles guy:
Hypergamy is an innate instinct and the symptoms appear at a young age. During college, I participated in a humanitarian SWPL mission in South America.
I’m not fond of the memories because it went quite bad. And we went there unprepared like pampered shitheads willing to save the world.
But more to the point, I recall the interactions that we’ve had with groups of children who were living in the streets. A sad state of affairs, but it is what it is, right? They were living exactly like baboon packs, except they were all under 12 years old. There were leaders and followers. The leader can be ousted at any given moment. They were living off petty crimes, selling chewing gum and cigarettes, and prostitution. And the females were naturally swooning over the leader and his close allies.
Nothing surprising so far, but the most interesting exchange that I had was with a former leader who has been overthrown. He was a broken little guy, a semi-alpha who had no luck. And his biggest frustration was not about power, but girls. He told me he did not trust girls. I asked him why.
But first, the girls in question here are nothing lady-like. They left all their femininity behind, all of them adopted the tomboy attitude in order to survive, they were hiding little blades inside their mouths, they were doing drugs, and most of them were selling their bodies. They could not afford to sleep outside like boys, because they were more likely to be raped. So they had to seek protection.
The ousted leader told me that girls would do anything to seduce you when you’re in charge, and will leave you the second you lose your position. A girl only wants to be protected by the leader so that the other boys don’t mess with her. My spanish is weak, but I understood that he told me he was caring about the girl he had. And once it was over, she started to avoid him like the plague. He was 12 years old. If he turns into a successful drug dealer, he will break a million hearts. But he will most likely end up in jail before that happens. And you know what, he’s lucky. Most guys realize the practical nature of women’s love too late.
I guess that’s how life is meant to be. It’s a tough world, and women being more vulnerable, have to fend for themselves. And men find themselves in a tough spot where they have to prove their value in every single situation.
Bottom line: be a skittles guy.
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such a sad story. i read brazilian storekeepers collude to have these street urchins killed. for the crime of shoplifting, for gods sake. no attempt to help the poor things. it’s a cruel world.
but anyway…about the news delivered by your little reporter from the trenches–consider our paleolithic environment for thousands upon thousands of years resembled his in that respect. except it was probably more a matter of life or death that our female ancestors chose the right protector. multiply by hundreds of generations and waddya get. maybe it’s a blessing that hypergamy operates subconsciously for the most part, sparing the woman much moral angst.
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Easy to spout platitudinous moralisations like “it is what it is” and “I ‘spose dats how itsh meant to be” from a comfortable American armchair.
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Yes, it is.
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Bottom line, you´re a social-Darwinist retard.
If your grandfathers fighting in WW2 had that “enlightened” attitude they would´ve joined Hitler instead of kicking Nazi butt.
Guess not only women nowadays would gladly vote for Hitler, PUA´s would too.
Not a big surprise there.
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I don’t vote.
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And next time, please spare me the leftist verbal diarrhea.
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http://www.takeninhand.com
There countless girls out there that actually enjoy being dominated by their man in every area of their lives. Some women know instinctively that men are more rational and calm internally, which can help right their often turbulent ship which is a woman’s soul. The desire to submit to a man is innate. Read the above website that is full of stories of women worshiping at the feet of their husbands and boyfriends who literally spank them outside of the bedroom every time they “act up”. Not only do they get a red bottom, their desire and love for their men is off the charts. Seriously, read the gushing words of praise that these women author once they are fully under the control of a man who is King and Master of his own home. It is a REAL EYE OPENER.
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It doesn’t say anything about how those men got into the position of being seen in the woman’s eyes as “King and Master”.
That’s more revealing.
But the secret must stay hidden because it means all women competing for a few men,
and the cost of choosing wrongly is spinsterhood 🙂
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It’s every thinking man’s duty to own a copy of The Manipulated Man. Written by a…..woman.
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In a related branch of the same tree, The Way of the Superior Man by David Deida explores the topic in detail as to how women prefer men who are capable of taking charge not only of the man’s own life, but that of his woman. A woman’s femininity is to submit one way or another. It will come either to group think like feminism (and where she will be unhappy at being at odds with deeper yearnings) or to a man who will speak to those desires and fulfill them.
Even the most radical of feminists like to be bent over and dominated in the bedroom. Just ask any man who has bedded one, they desire it more than most, as in their daily lives they are constantly fighting against their natural female nature. Once again, the chasm between what a woman says she wants, and what she pursues will continue to baffle betas and omegas who fail to conceptualize this simple but powerful truth.
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Women prefer men who can take charge, get respect from others AND have other women interested in them.
Of course, they shouldn’t complain if those men later leave them, because she thought that she could keep him loyal against other women who wanted him.
Play with fire, expect to get burnt.
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@ simonthemagician:
“Even the most radical of feminists like to be bent over and dominated in the bedroom. Just ask any man who has bedded one, they desire it more than most…”
I have been waiting a long time for the opportunity to make this comment: WITHOUT EXCEPTION, every single woman I’ve dated who has proclaimed herself to be a feminist has dutifully acquiesced to my desire to do her from behind—– *on the very first (or occaisionally second) date.* Not one exception. Ever. Seriously.
I didn’t notice the pattern until about the third or fourth girl. Then I found myself joking about it with a few male co-workers. Finally I fell into a sort of enchantment with the alarming consistency of ‘feminist’ women getting on their elbows and knees and thrusting their buttocks towards my schmoe on the very first (or occaisionally second) date.
The worst, though, was having to lay there listening to the stream-of-consciousness blabber after I’d blown my load and fallen, exhausted and beanbag-like, on top of them. Especially if I was starving. BUH.
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Most feminists are sex-positive so why wouldn’t they agree to sex with you in whichever way they liked if they wanted it?
[heartiste: women don’t get turned on by men fulfilling orders. men who properly dominate are giving it to their lovers good and hard, regardless of her conditions beforehand.]
That seems perfectly in line with their views.
[most feminists are not sex-positive, unless by sex-positive you mean they believe men should be metaphorically castrated until such time that feminists call upon them to perform some unerotic contrived bedroom duty.]
It’s obvious that a more conservative girl would be less likely to agree to sex in a less conservative manner.
[kink does not vary by political persuasion. it goes deeper than that.]
I’m not sure why this is news.
[to the typical feminist, any objective description of reality comes as news.]
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bellasu, a serious question: what does “sex-positive” mean?
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The term means a woman who wants to have sex with an alpha, but despises and loathes the sexual desires of men she finds unattractive, that is, betas and omegas. Of course, once she’s been through the meatspin helicopter and reached her mid-thirties, that beta doesn’t look so bad. This is what such “women” men by being “sex-positive”. All feminist talk is jargon, you just have to sift through the cow manure to find the nugget (he, he, did I say nugget and cow dung in the same sentence?) of truth.
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“[game bloggers] will teach you more about what’s really going on than all the right wing condemnation of predatory men”
Not to mention that women can learn more in thirty minutes on a site like this than in thirty years in a feminist echo chamber. Want to know what guys like? Ask a guy. Want to know what girls like? Ask a (non-beta) guy.
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Watch backroom Casting Couch on Youporn to see dominance done well.
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I prefer Athol’s choice of terms — she needs a “Captain”, not a “Master” (even though they mean the same thing). This is viewed through the lens of Married Game (which is different from Single Game) but the techniques are similar. Most (betaized) men have a hard time wrapping their own brains around “Master”, because, quite simply, most of them think it’s a title and not a job description. Getting a chick to call you “master” doesn’t mean shit unless you’ve actually mastered something, beginning with yourself. You tell a Beta that he needs to be a Master when it comes to women, and he’s either going to make himself sound silly and ridiculous or just plain pathetic.
But “Captain”, that’s a title they can realistically aspire to, mentally speaking. Not only that, but few men have any clear idea what kind of training they need to be a Master, but they do have some inkling how a Captain acts. Every boat has a Captain. He might be good at it, he might be bad, but he’s still the Captain. Better, it’s clear and away from the loaded terms Master and Submissive, which can inspire an unhelpful response.
I don’t disagree with the underlying premise — that women, whose sexual desire is responsive, not spontaneous — prefer firm direction in a relationship (“Mastery”). But the fact is that the term “master” has lost it’s meaning with constant overuse (and I admit the porn industry is the biggest culprit), and worse, has become a cliche. It also elicits an automatic negative response from some women. If you’re still playing Single Game, you can use this as an opportunity for a soft neg, if you’re skillful enough, and even if you blow it you haven’t lost much.
But if you’re working Married Game, however, and your wife is not already into the BDSM culture, then referring to yourself as a “master” is unlikely to inspire the panty-dampening you desire without conflating it with bizarre fantasies of sexual abuse in her mind. So re-phrase (and re-frame) to use less provocative terminology.
Think about it:
Master I: Woman! Get naked and get in bed, and I expect your unquestioned obedience! Your master demands it!
Wife: Did you skip your meds again?
or
Captain I: You’ve had a long week, and so have I. I’m taking you to dinner tonight, then drinks, and then we’re going to come home and you’re going to fuck me rotten, and cum so hard your descendants three generations hence will be leaving slug trails and you will never think about evening television as legitimate entertainment again. That is, if you’re woman enough to handle that kind of pressure. Not all are.
Wife: I’ll be ready to go by the time you get home.
One displays petulant demands that do not inspire respect. The other is a skillful display of management that allows essentially the same direction without offending her, disrespecting her overtly, or undermining her own idea of how the relationship works.
Some might see this technique as departing from Game ideals by not forcefully demanding Alpha attention and dropping her like a rock when you don’t get it. I remind you gentlemen that Married Game is a sophistication on Single Game, and you have to adjust techniques accordingly. Perhaps you feel like far more of a bad ass as “Master” than you do as “Captain”.
But the more likely scenario is that you’re far more comfortable assuming the position of “Captain” than you are “Master”, and all that it implies. The important thing is actually projecting your authority in a way that expects compliance — that is, if you’re walking around acting all Captainy, she’s just naturally going to start treating you like a Captain.
And if she doesn’t, after being reminded . . . THEN you can start thinking about throwing her off the ship.
[heartiste: you’re setting up a bit of a caricature of mastery here. read the books i recommended and you’ll get a better idea of real mastery that isn’t polluted by feminist expectations. anyhow, something like “Get naked and get in bed, and I expect your unquestioned obedience! Your master demands it!” could work if it’s congruent with the man’s overall personality.]
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Ian, go to your local BDSM club one night and have a chat with some of the masters and mistresses there. You will find them to be friendly, laid back people who are commanding because they are in control of themselves. It is that confidence that lets them do what they do. They are not the leatherdaddy-barking-orders type at all.
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Panties are moist. I’m sure your lady is a very happy woman.
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@ Dr_Caveman: Oh, I understand that — I work in porn. You can’t throw a whip without hitting someone in the BDSM lifestyle. That was kind of my point.
When people who are not familiar with the psychological intricacies of the BDSM lifestyle hear the terms “dominant” and “submissive”, they often leap to the conclusion that all dominant interchanges between man and woman are by their nature brutally enforced coercion or the result of floor-adjacent self-esteem. The use of the “Captain and First Officer” metaphor that Athol has pioneered is a way to bridge the gap of understanding between those who do understand dominance and submission as it actually works and those who have been put-off by even thinking about the concept because they were too squeamish or afraid.
@heartiste: My mastery isn’t polluted by feminist expectations, it is tempered by the practical requirements of my married life — a path I chose very deliberately and thoughtfully. And those practical requirements (and my family’s culture) are such that demands such as those I used as examples would be seen as disrespectful, if not delivered with obvious humor.
Again, Married Game and Single Game are different. They are not incompatible or mutually exclusive. But they have a different focus and different ultimate goals. I would encourage all Single Game advocates to try to understand that a man can decide to go his own way and that way can include marriage and children WITHOUT capitulation to feminism. Indeed, for many of us that is the ultimate expression of Game, not how many beautiful women you can bag (which is important, but only to a point); it’s how you can find and attract and land the one you very deliberately chose to be the mother of your children . . . and then manage that mother adequately enough to provide a stable and happy childhood for your offspring. Mastering a woman is relatively easy; mastering the mother of your children in a way that she likes it and begs for more is much harder. And doing that AND doing a credible job as a father is perhaps the highest level of difficulty of all.
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well done, and well said, Ian.
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I think of myself as more of a ‘viscount’.
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$haron Osbourne.
There is an interview with The Osbournes on Pierce Morgan a few months ago and $haron instructs her son Jack to “never hit a women”.
All the while she is gazing, lovingly into her husband Ozzy’s eyes.
The same husband who has beat her to a pulp multiple times over the past 32 years and tried to kill her once.
And $haron isn’t stupid as far as street smarts or IQ.
There was an interview with her from maybe 30 years after the Blizzard or God Bless Ozzy Osbourne where she states that she was dating nice accounts and the like before she met Ozzy.
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I’ll take this a step further. If a man isn’t around to dominate a woman, a woman will find something else to control her. Her “crazy” schedule which is always overbooked (by her). The demanding boss. Her career in general. Her pets’ needs. An eating disorder. Etc.
[heartiste: this is very insightful. the SWPL chick surrounded by betas finds her dominance in her hectic schedule of classes, seminars and events. the poor, hillbilly chick finds it in food or meth.]
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Now that IS interesting. (You left out children.)
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Agreed. As an important and vital corollary you can see why so many betas desperately try to master things like World of Warcraft.
The urge to dominate is the innate male force. You could, with clever machinations make a form of girl game that by entropy retasks beta males into masters themselves.
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No.
She’d bolt as soon as someone with real confidence came up. He would fold like a deck of cards back into his beta habits.
Self-mastery and self-confidence have to be done willingly, not coached out of you as one would treat a puppy.
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I also left out her parents, who use her like a puppet if a man isn’t around. Find me a 40-ish single woman and I’ll show you a controlling aging mother (and/or father) with a scurrying servant.
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Isn’t the diversion of classes, seminars, events and career …
simply to put her in an environment where there are more alphas to snag?
Women have an amazing ability to be too busy to interact with a guy they have no use for.
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Oh wow. Great insight.
Apply it to how women vote. After the civil rights movement and the castration of patriarchal society, liberal women vote to implement a … domineering social state. On the other side of the isle, conservative women start voting for theocratic, thuggish neocons.
Nature-and ladies-abhor a vacuum…
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It’s just like keeping a heifer.
See you barn-side.
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I hate it when you’re right.
My husband, a natural alpha (more of a Sigma, I suppose due to his predisposition towards introversion and monogamy) was still somewhat brainwashed by feminazis right out of college when I met him. One of the first things I said to him, when he would ask for my opinion on countless meaningless things (restaurants, movies etc) was: “I WANT TO BE LED.”
Arf.
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Sigma?
[heartiste: a sigma is what i would call a lesser alpha. he’s the brooding loner who doesn’t take shit from anyone and doesn’t care about social expectations. he rarely leads other men, but he’s very good at leading women.]
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An omega that’s good with women?
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“alpha, beta, gamma, delta, epsilon, zeta, eta, theta, iota, kappa, lambda, mu, nu, xi, omicron, pi, rho, sigma”
Huh?
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“You Mu’s sure know how to party!”
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John, that was so iota. Have some damned pride.
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Give the guy a break. At least he’s not a xi.
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One common shit-test I face is “oh, you’re so confident” or “wow over-confident”
My response: Yes.
Another story. The girl I went out with for a year was constantly shit-testing.
After a while it wore me down to the point where I broke up with her.
She was devastated. This for her was some kind of game or turn on.
I told her in frustration, I couldn’t take her crap anymore.
Her response: “You need to dominate me more”
This kind of slipped out and was not meant as a put-down but as an invitation.
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Great comment.
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The dark comedy “The secretary” (2002) is pretty good too.
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Remember the glare Salma Hayek gave the Oscars host when he said, “Who said there were no good roles for women this year.” Secretary was funny, but Freida was a great film.
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Can you really distinguish your just-so justification of the male urge to feel dominant (combined with his ferocious insecurity), between the need to impress females and one’s own emotional stability? I’m not sure it is clear cut, as in, I’m not sure that sheer dominance is geared toward women instead of, simply, oneself, and the need to overcome some very serious doubt and keep on trying to live. Which is to say: can you draw a distinction tremendous ego and the desire to justify one’s ego by making it an essential part of what women desire? Maybe, instead, it is just what you desire, for personal and specific reasons.
[heartiste: chicks dig overconfident men. science says so!]
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Submissive girls like to be dominated because they’re submissive. Dominant girls like to be dominated because it’s so rare that a man CAN dominate them.
My natural buddy and I have done some pretty fucked up things to girls both in and out of the bedroom, just to see what we can get away with. It would blow most people’s minds what girls will do when you’re congruent with leading them.
The congruency is the key. Chicks will test to see if you’re full of shit or not. But if you’re congruent with being their master, to your core, the floodgates open. A big part of it is 1) understanding that women are sexual creatures and 2) not judging them for it.
I have literally shit on a girl lol and that’s not the worst thing I’ve done. It’s pretty hard to take the uppity “treat me like a lady and consider my opinion” types seriously after you’ve crossed certain lines lol and they can sense that.
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Read My Secret Garden and the follow-up Forbidden Flowers by Nancy Friday. MSG should pretty much be required reading for men once they get to a point with their game where they can actually pick up girls and fuck them.
Reading it before that point would probably just fuck them up and make them weird…”heres my cold read: I bet you want to get fucked by a dog don’t you” lol
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Wait, tell us the fucked up shit. We’re all ears.
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Seconded.
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THIRDED
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Third.
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Fourthed
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Fifthed. Time to hit up the used book store in town and see if I can find a copy.
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How do you square this theory with the fact that a majority of men who are into serious BDSM are actually submissive? The same is true of women, of course, but you can hardly say that The Story of O should evoke dominant feelings in men and submissive feelings in women when people who are into that are, regardless of gender, mostly submissive.
[heartiste: as i mentioned above, the variance in men’s personalities is greater than that of women’s personalities.]
Though I suppose if this blog has a recurring theme, it’s, “Everyone of my gender is fundamentally like me; everyone of the other gender is exactly like my anecdotal experience suggests.”
[not just my experience. the experiences of those i observe around me, the experiences of others, and the scientific literature all confirm what i write here. or are you prepared to claim that men and women do not differ on many important psychosocial traits?
ps i remember reading that most men into bdsm actually prefer the dominant role. it’s something of a myth that the freak brigade is filled with cuckold fetish mincing nancyboys who want to take it up the ass with dildos.]
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FAirNBalanced
Because the BDSM scene is the only place where submissive men can find a Dominant woman. Dominant men can find submissive women everywhere.
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-Though I suppose if this blog has a recurring theme, it’s, “Everyone of my gender is fundamentally like me; everyone of the other gender is exactly like my anecdotal experience suggests.”
Stereotypes exist because they’re true, more often than not.
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A myth the MS(beta)M loves to propagate.
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A woman wants a decisive man with balls and a backbone.
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Whom other women want.
Preselection is key.
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Don’t read “The Graduate” by Charles Webb, very beta.
I recommend:
Read “Women” by Bukowski (also ‘Ham on Rye’ and ‘Factotum’): Bukowski gives great insights on Women, the life, drinking and writing: http://transmillenium.wordpress.com/2012/01/27/my-ambition-is-handicapped-by-laziness/
Read “Madame Bovary” by Gustave Flaubert: How a woman becomes bored by a beta and craves the attention of an alpha.
Read ‘The Unbearable Lightness of the Being’ by Milan Kundera: What’s better, the lightness of being a womanizer or the weight of being in an LTR? http://transmillenium.wordpress.com/2011/02/12/la-insoportable-levedad-del-ser/
Read ‘The Robber Bride’ by Margaret Atwood: written by a woman who want’s to be taken away by an alpha.
Letters to Penthouse: letters wher women tell their deepest sexual stories and fantasies.
Read Ovid’s ‘Art of Love’: ethernal rules on seduction.
I was reading ‘Les Liaisons Dangereuses’ but it’s very long and my french its not that good but I reccomend the movie.
Those are some books on literature that I have read and that had given me new perspective on game and the alpha attitudes.
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Also, I would like to read Byron.
Which books do you recommend me?
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Trans,
Try this: http://www.scribd.com/doc/28849140/Practical-Female-Psychology-for-the-Practical-Man
And this: http://www.scribd.com/doc/33657743/Gary-Brodsky-How-to-Dominate
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Thanks for the suggestions. I have read the latter but not the former… In the moment I don’t want to read more ‘game’ related books because I’m on the field everyday shaping my own ideas and experiences.
I want to take a break from all that ‘theory’. I want to read more novels and books about business, law and politics.
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A good biography of Byron himself.
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Trans,
Try this:
And this:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/40959353/Gary-Brodsky-How-to-Dominate-Women
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Don’t forget Mikhail Lermontov’s ‘A hero of our Time’, very interesting insights in that book that apply to this blog
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There’s a Game blogger of Russian descent who posts relevant excerpts from Lermontov and gives corresponding personal anecdotes. I wish I could recall the name.
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They want an ‘Alpha Wolf’… Oh wait…
[heartiste: this is a very stupid argument to the contrary that trolls love to trot out every so often. i’ll leave it to the readers to figure out why this anti-human sex differences argument is stupid.]
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Not most relevant comment, but any discussion of female targeted erotica had to include the Twilight series.
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Head. Woman. Now!
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/brogue: She’s cryin herself to sleep on her huge pillow.
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has anyone just concluded that women are destructive messy fucked up pieces of work, and you know just not actually worth any thought at all?
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I think I’m coming to the same conclusion. Just give me some time.
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According to the latest Rasmussen poll, men support Ron Paul over obama by 13 percentage points. Women support obama over Paul by 8.
[heartiste: sez it all.]
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Well, if it weren’t for the poon, there’d probably be a bounty on ’em, I’ll give you that.
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If women didn’t have vaginas, men would likely hunt them for sport.
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Im looking forward to situation that allows me to use that one, by your leave Sir of course
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girls dig guys who hunt girls for sport.
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Yes, but how to bring this out in him? Or rather, show him that it’s okay to be what he is naturally? I remember when we first got together and I asked him to tell me his deepest fantasies, and they were all centered around domination. But there’s a disconnect when it comes to taking action. I’m too shy to ask for it directly, and he is afraid of hurting me.
But I know that he would be happier, and I would be happier too, if we could get past our fears. He just needs the green light to take charge, and I don’t know how to give it to him without inadvertently putting myself in the dominant role.
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they are, and the aren’t. but we have a biological imperative to F#ck em. so ineveitably they occupy a small portiont of a man’s thoughts…if you’re lucky.
unfortunately for most, the conclusions you’ve arrived to are never reached, and women dominate their existance.
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Who could have seen this coming?
Check out the omega stuffed animal shot down page.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2107152/Chardon-High-School-shooting-Bullied-Ohio-student-arrested-killing-1-injuring-4.html
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The story at the bottom of the page about the Italian bartender is pretty funny because all the wives in her small town are mad at her for raising their mens’ expectations. She’s a minor celebrity in Italy now. Laura Maggi, the bartender, is pretty hot IMHO. Silvio will be tapping this if he hasn’t already.
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you are missing the divine point. Be THANKFUL for women.
They are so damn much fun! Once you understand how things really are, you can get over yourself, and find great amusement in their pleasure and pain.
Have FUN with them. Don’t hate. They might be nuts, but use that!
Use all this knowledge and have fun. Kiss the girls and make them cry, slap their ass, laugh at them, comfort them, bust their chops, dominate their pussies… its all GOOD, man!
Let them be nuts. It’s hilarious.
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True that. I think going through the hate phase is just part of the red pill.
I don’t get mad at women for being bonkers and nutty anymore, just as I don’t get mad at a dog for having a tail.
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Leykis has been saying they’re all mentally insane since he got on the air.
I agree.
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Bitterness will not bring you happiness. Enjoy women, just do not take them too seriously.
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I was planning my trip to the grocer yesterday, I told Slampeice #1 I was going to “get you some office supplies so you can make me some cupcakes”. She goes on a rant about how gender roles are obsolete and we have evolved so we dont need them anymore and blah, blah, blah. I told her that gender roles are biological and are consistent accross the entire animal kingdom over thousands of generations of evolution all the way back to bananas. Then I left.
After I got back from Target I went back to her place. There was some awards show on TV, she was pretty insistent on watching it. I don’t watch TV except for ESPN and Fox News, so I went and took a nap in her bed. As I left the room I put a bag with cup cake mix and frosting on her counter. I said “I got your office supplies”
When I woke up a couple hours later she was putting frosting on my cupcakes.
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Asserting dominance via cupcakes. Pure dada, bro.
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Now, when you say, “She was putting frosting on my cupcakes”…
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I came to the same conclusion long ago, and figure that it is the primary reason that women tend to be more unhappy today than at any other time in history. Women by their very nature are submissive and want/crave a man who takes control – women do not want to be responsible for, or take ownership of their actions – this allows them to enjoy things without being “responsible” for it. I always figured that in the eyes of the law everything is my fault anyway – I might as well enjoy it. Of course, I’ve never gotten anything but very positive feedback, and since young women who grew up without a father figure need it, I’ve found younger women to be especially receptive to a strong older male figure. And I wouldn’t have it any other way…
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I love your site, have introduced friends and family to it, read it every day.
Have you seen this story: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/24/us/trial-for-sheriff-mirkarimi-of-san-francisco-set-to-name-a-judge.html ; (another article on the same story) http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/02/27/BAPD1ND2DI.DTL
Briefly, the San Francisco sheriff is being prosecuted for domestic violence against his wife even though his wife wants the charges dropped and is supporting her husband’s defense against charges placed on her nominal behalf.
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‘Frisco is a strange and dangerous place.
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I suggested “Story of O” and “9 1/2 Weeks”.
In the same vein, you should try Never the Face: A Story of Desire, which I wrote about at the link.
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Yes this is all true about women, or at least me. Why, if we so joyously submit to you and love you, do you want to stomp on us and leave us broken and crying by the side of the sexual market highway?
Do you doubt our love because you doubt your own dominance?
I am having quite an eye opening but puzzling time reading in your manosphere. I suppose I am fascinated by it partly because I never really joined the SMP if you will. I met my husband when we were both 18, and we’ve been together for nearly 22 years now.
Please pardon my naivite, but why does a woman’s love and submission inspire disgust and abandonment?
[heartiste: false premise.]
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come on, maya, you can troll better than this.
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@ itsme:
“come on, maya, you can troll better than this.”
I don’t think I’ve ever laughed harder at a comment! I mean, like ‘eyes watering’ laughter!
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What was my false premise?
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Figure it out for yourself you miseducated drone.
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Huh? Why are you being mean to me? I’ve been reading this blog for a few months and I finally decide to post…on something I know a little bit about, though clearly not as much as you, and I not only get mistaken for Maya (I have read a couple of her posts), but I get called names too?
I don’t think I’ve insulted anyone. This is not a very warm welcome. I am a real person…my name is Anne.
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damn.
you just out-maya’d maya.
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Hello Anne, dear. Welcome to this emotional happy place where people’s feelings are sooopa dooopa important.
Did you end up looking it up though? Miseducated drone?
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Ragnar agrees.
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Great to see Mr. Redbeard getting attention.
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Aggressively postulating one’s purpose as the core of women’s fantasy is fine, and maybe even often true–but a dude who stays alpha purposefully and stays in a relationship becomes a conceded asshole to his own detriment. Master-like Alpha traits are great. So are video games, big TVs and noisy cars. But they’re also annoying, and can be read as unrefined.
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Who cares if SWPLS think one is unrefined? Art fags are of no consequence to this world so they try to control the debate through conventions and morality.
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gtfo
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What if, as a man, you’re attracted to women who take the attitude of a man, and find that dominatrix types turn you on like no other?
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FIND A girl with long fingers to satisfy you
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Interesting question. In this situation you are either:
1. A natural deviant who finds this, as a deviation, qua deviation, from the norm arousing.
Or, 2., you have some other mental illness.
Either way, you’re a rarity amongst men.
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We herd sheep, we drive cattle, we lead people. Lead me, follow me, or get out of my way
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This reminds me of the James Bond flick On Her Majesty’s Secret Service. In it Draco, talking about his daughter tells Bond the following:
“What she needs is a man, to dominate her, to make love to her enough to make her want him. A man like you.”
That movie came out in 1969, but it still rings just as true today.
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Don’t read if fuck-language makes your balls retract into your bowels.–
There are some tricks to fucking a woman right. Number one, never give a damn about “her pleasure.” Her pleasure is your fucking huge groan when she’s figured out how to make you come hard. Make her work; it’s not easy to get a man out of his mind excited.
Too many guys shoot once and call it a day. That’s crazy. Here’s some advice. There are important things a bitch needs to learn to do. She needs to suck and eat your come at least once every time you’re with her. Put her on her knees and roll that skirt up or pull those pants down just over her sweet ass and tell her to move it; watch that ass because you will be fucking it soon. She needs to stare at you and talk about what she’s doing, with her mouth full; she needs to suck down and eat this all-important first load. That first one can be a hard bang and it’s good to shoot it in a soft, wet mouth. Fuck her mouth like a little cunt; make sure she can can feel it in the back of her throat. Make sure she drinks it.
Her real task begins here. You’ve just shot a thick mess of come down her throat and most guys are done. Now she needs to get you up again. If she can’t or won’t do this she is not into you and you need to show her the door. But if she loves your cock her tongue will already be snaked halfway up your colon and she will be trying to take both your fat balls in her mouth at once. She will have that look of superlative idiocy and cow-stupidity which is the mark of the fabulous cocksucking pig. Look at her face; look at her slobber; make sure it’s dripping down onto those fat young round pink high-slung tits. When you feel your come and her slobber on these tits you may just start to get hard again.
And then you’ll fuck her. I’ll revisit this another time.
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“I’ll revisit this another time.”
I can’t wait. lolz.
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Go on….
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Not a bad post but a little light on specifics not to mention a little prudish…..
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Well that was dirty, but contains a profound truth of the bedroom:
They don’t bitch about not having an orgasm if yours is deep and real.
I am 100% certain that psychologists are hamstering away to ‘prove’ this with clinical trials as I type.
“Studies suggest that women care less about reaching climax when men provide verbal cues of climax”
which in popular mediaspeak will become:
“Guys, you’re off the hook: Girls don’t need to come”
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Somewhat relevant to the topic–I have a conundrum about what to do with this absolute knockout that I’m trying to get with. Backstory first: we’ve already gone out on a lunch date due to our schedules at night not lining up. She’s clearly interested as well based on what she’s said and how she’s acted around me. Also, very relevant she’s got a kid. I actually had requested Mon. night off so we could go to a nice Italian restaurant and hopefully seal the deal. But Sun when I texted to see if she was still a go this is how it went down–
Me: Plan for mon. 7pm, dress casual attire. Then drinks afterwards. Sound good?
Her: I’ll have my son on Mon. And he’s horribly, horribly sick. Which blows because I love, love, love, love .
Me: Sorry about that, I hope the little guy gets better soon. will always be there.
What she texts next caught me completely off guard and I wasn’t sure how to reply, here it is–
Her: I literally just got covered in vomit. Covered. FUCKing soaked
At this point I’m wondering what the hell she means by this. I think there’s a reason that she capitalized “fuck” and that her son being sick is a shit test, so I say this–
Me: Can take a hint. I work til 10. After that, your place?
Her: Um, I live with my parent so I’m saying that’s a no go. I moved back home…(rest not relevant)
Me: Gotcha. Yet, ya didn’t say I misread you. There’s my place, and I have drinks.
Her: Which would be great except that I have an absolutely horribly sick son that needs me.
Alright, here’s where I think I made a mistake but still can’t be entirely sure–
Me: True, I remember. Didn’t mean to come off as a douche. Just when the day is good, want to be clear. I want you.
Her: Sure.
Fortunately she still texted me back and didn’t tell me to “fuck off,” so that’s at least not bad. But “sure” is cryptic. I don’t know if it’s a good “sure” or a bad “sure” without context. After that, I didn’t reply and still haven’t yet. I’m thinking that now since I’ve just proclaimed my interest I need to back off and not contact her for a while. I need to let her rationalization hamster kick in and do the work.
What are your thoughts on it? Feel free to tell me what I could’ve said better, but please be civil about it.
[heartiste: lunch date: BAD. texting: BAD. you sound the whole time like you’re chasing her around the block, digging for a positive reply. she lost interest, that’s what the ‘sure’ means.
honestly, why are you even bothering with a single mom? treat them like the low value women they are. when i hear a chick has a kid (it’s happened a couple of times) i fuck her a few times and then bolt.
anyhow, if you insist on bagging this damaged trophy, i’d start by not contacting her for a couple weeks, then “accidentally” send her a CH patented non sequitur text along the lines of “and then the look on your face!” she’ll most likely reply, at which point you say “woops, that’s was meant for someone else”.]
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llzozozlzl
yah just text one word after two weeks. “cockas lzozllzzo”
den text back da next day, “sorry dat was meant for someoene else zllzzo”
if she texts back, text “bring da movies.”
dis is aguagraneeted to get your cockas wets loctass coakss wet in her gina hole or we will offer u a full refunssdz lzozlzlzlzl
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Tips: Never take a woman to lunch or dinner until you’ve had sex with her.
“Sound good?” – Do not ask for her approval. TELL her what you’re going to do.
Eliminate the word “sorry” from your vocabulary. Many guys (you included) use it in regular conversation, even when you’re not actually apologizing for something. It makes you look weak.
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Spot on. Remove both words. Here, instead of “sounds good?” this poor beta (don’t despair, there’s always hope) should have used “let’s”. E.g.:
“lets havew drinks at yours tnite” — notice disrespect in lack of punctuation (iphone makes this a chore) and contraction of words.
One of my own text exchanges:
“lets meet yours at 8 30 Thursday” (harder: be at yours 8 thurs)
“Wow, sounds awesome. Blahahahahsahahakblblalalbalablabl blablalb lalablalbla blab So then I said sdfkajslfjaskljfkasjfljas;fjaksjf;asf”
(notice no reply. No “cool” or “awesome, see you then!!! :D!!! WOW I’M SO HAPPY!!!”)
*8 25 thursday*:
“be yours soon beb” (harder: yours soon)
Arrive: 9:15
“Helllllooooooo!!” *sex look strong in her eyes as she says this”
Fuck I love the texting everything these days.
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Edit: This is just criticising your texting in general. There’s not much (considering the woman’s sit.) you could have done to fuck that “used trophy” as heartiste delightfully puts it.
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Life is too short to not do what you want. Am I having fun asking twice? That guideline works. My attitude after the “Fucking soaked” comment would have been why are you giving me shit?
Bad things happen. Reschedule. If its more complicated than that, not only will putting up with shit ruin your chances, you are also just putting up with shit.
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“At this point I’m wondering what the hell she means by this.”
She means the sick son she told you about just puked all over her because he’s sick like she just told you. She was trying to share what’s up on her end so you guys could still txtually “hang out” together and shoot the shit all night because she liked you. All she wanted was to show she’s still interested even tho she had to cancel and you could’ve built a nice little bonding-thru-her-suffering here by cracking some jokes and being normal.
“I think there’s a reason that she capitalized “fuck” and that her son being sick is a shit test, so I say this–”
Wow no edit undo undo!!! And this is where you obliterated yourself lol I mean good on you for plowing but she had no idea you read her writing fuck as meaning she wanted to fuck because, well, that’s crazy. “I’m not falling for this restraining order shit-test, she wants me!!!”
Sometimes things aren’t shit-tests. But good on ya for trying. You plowed nicely, you were just pointed in the wrong direction and were the bull charging thru the china shop instead of around it.
For the future: generally when a girl flakes for a BS reason she won’t txt you during it. ie – you’ll be at the restaraunt and she won’t be there and the next day you’ll get a “lol sorry fell asleep” txt or before the date she’ll txt “sorry can’t make it sick :(” and when you txt back “k we can reschedule, feel better” you won’t get any response beyond a “thx” or if you DO, at that’s at like 4pm, you won’t get any txts from her at 9pm. If she txts during when your date was and is like “ugh my stomache hurts so much” (or my kid puked on me), her excuse is legit and that’s her way of letting you know she really did want to meet up.
Heartiste is spot-on with this one tho, you made yourself look super unattractive to her with this mess lol
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You forgot the umlaut for the “a” in hander. It should be haender or hander with the umlaut over the “a”.
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Thanks for the advice and for not pulling any punches. Yeah, I’m just recently back in the dating scene and my game is incredibly rusty. Also, single moms are not my first choice by any means but where I live, a working class town, they’re most of the fish in the pool.
So no lunch dates and avoid texting. The second one is tough. I call her but she often if not usually texts back instead of calling. Fortunately, she had given me a “sure” once prior to this exchange and she still wanted to go out to a nice restaurant, so I’m probably not dead in the water yet but on thin ice.
Good thing I was actually right on the waiting a couple weeks, but say I send that non-sequitur text and get a reply, how do I continue from there? She will likely bring up the prior exchange and I’m trying to think how to come out in a positive light. And I remember, no apologizing. And since I already brought up the restaurant, it’ll be difficult to try to just have her come over without her expecting that now.
This is likely a bad idea, but since her kid was legitimately sick, I’m thinking of sending a “Hope your son’s feeling better,” just to show I’m not a complete ass, but not sure if it will come across as sincere now.
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I guess this is where my beta genes shine bright.
I never could stand to be with a “needy” girl. They repulsed me. I never wanted to think for the girl, or plan her day, order her around, or even remember her birthday. I wanted an equal.
Someday, after a few drinks, I’ll confess how that turned out.
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This also explains why a large number of western women are marrying muslims and wering the headscarfe.
Islam = submission = female attraction
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Woman take by Muz scum as a hostage: “Yvonne Ridley says the Koran is a magna carta for women”
“She read the Koran looking for an explanation of the Taliban’s treatment of women, only to find there wasn’t any. “It’s a magna carta for women!”
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Yvonne Ridley was the journalist captured by the Taliban while reporting undercover in Afghanistan, soon after 9/11.
Held on spying charges, she feared she would be stoned. Instead, she was treated with respect.
She promised her captors that, after her release, she would study Islam.
She read the Koran looking for an explanation of the Taliban’s treatment of women, only to find there wasn’t any. “It’s a magna carta for women!”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yvonne_Ridley
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Its the funny thing about life, you can’t change anyone, you can only unlock whats already there.
The joke as I see it, is everyone can be everything but the cost and weight of that disguise changes from how far away it is from your wants in the moment.
That being said, you see such a voracious sexual creature in women that you unlock because they don’t have anything to hold back. Watch a man kill with hatred and you’ll see it too.
Of all of the girls I have dated, some couldn’t hold eye contact without blushing, some called me god and meant it, and it’s because I give them what they want. It all depends on the girl of course.
I would recommend understanding the differences between power and force, winning and not just doing something that makes you not lose and understanding tells before you embark on trying to dominate people.
Domination to some is the experience of having a solution provided that wasn’t requested. To do that with any success you need to know what people actually want in any one moment.
To even get to that, you have to get over one thing having intrinsic value and see life as life with no external values attached to that.
You experience freedom so they can melt in control. Scripts and routines might help sometimes in the lay moments of boredom, but you don’t need them. Reality is all that people want to be able to properly digest. Women want certainty more then anything else. Society itself is feminine because it craves this entirely human asset. The universe never requires certainty as it is an action, not a state. Thats why they crave masters, to know certainty is to know life itself. To know risk is to know death itself.
Never apply value to anything you do, other peoples description of your life is the only information you need to expand on that moment.
Lastly to all of you, this is animalism and that needs to be remembered. The 20% that you are just functioning as a unit of society (or 80% if your poor) doesn’t have to suck. You never know if you might just work on the starbucks girl, the librarian to live out a fantasy, or a nurse. The fantasy is not the reality and the pussies they own have no pleasure in them. As a master you are the one that brings all things. Your relationship is 100% you and 0% them. Watch how funny math is when life is that way. 0% is often amazing.
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If you want unvarnished looks into the souls of women, read some romance novels. Terrifying, but very revealing of what many women want, and of what gets many women wet.
Also: take a look at the films of Catherine Breillat, and start with her movie “Romance” (partially inspired by “Story of O”). Breillat’s a ’60s-style French feminist, but she’s ultra honest and forthright about what turns her on, about her drives, and about her contradictions. Sexy stuff too, of an austere, arty sort.
Great comment above by Days of Broken Arrows, btw.
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“All women from their birth are searching for their Master.” Aristotle
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Marcus Aurelius in “Meditations”:
“And I must thank heaven for such a wife as mine, so submissive, so loving…”
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What a despicable experiment we (men) have entertained over the last 60 years.
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Why bother even reading those books when the same message is proudly broadcast all around us?
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/horrible-reactions-to-chris-brown-at-the-grammys
Women don’t even need to be in a relationship with the guy they want to be dominated by, a proxy will do just fine.
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Insist that your wife/girlfriend reads Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand. Do not discuss any aspect of the story with her prior to her reading. You must read it before she does. Recall your own thoughts after reading it. Most likely it will be something along the lines of determining which real life character most resembles Wesley Mouch or Orren Boyle or something to that effect. Then ask your wife/girlfriend what she thought of the book without first telling her your opinion. I engaged in this exact exercise without first viewing it as something sexual but more because I didn’t want to spoil the story for her. My wife’s response was completely unexpected by me, at least. She thought the book was full of hot sex and it turned her on. I had to re-read parts just to know what she was talking about. I barely noticed all of the domination oriented sex scenes in the book. While we have always had a domination element in our relationship, I increased the frequency and intensity of it after that experience, much to her delight and positive response.
By the way, if you don’t have enough dominance in your relationship to compel your wife/girlfriend to read a 1200 page work of libertarian oriented fiction with little more than a simple command, you need to carefully study the principles set forth herein and practice and apply them until you get it right.
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Ayn Rand, being female, was hardwired to write a romance novel, even if it was supposedly about economics.
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Women don’t have the chops to read AS and absorb from it what we’d like them to absorb… getting turned on my the dominant sex stuff is the best we can hope for, given their brains.
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Doesn’t anybody read anything that hasn’t been made into a movie? Anthem, The Fountainhead
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The Fountainhead is the only movie in which Patricia O’Neal looks sexy…
They should remake it, much as I dig the Coop… it’s a veritable Masters Class of Game.
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There IS a movie? I will have to see that!
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Google and IMDB are your friends, toots… they even made one out of Anthem in the late 1990’s, if memory serves… never saw it myself, though.
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Know me…broken by my master.
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And here’s the latest self-published eBook success: an BDSM trilogy that’s popular in the Manhattan and NJ mommy set:
http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/mamma_mia_TFCh9ZeqKU7QpYDnH2npoL
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Cute name: “50 shades of Gray.”
(Gray must be the female protag.’s name, and the “shades” refers to the various bruises she’s suffered.)
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this is all true on paper but really hard to master in life.
after some serious glitches, my boyfriend just said he’s going to enroll in a crash course on how to be an effective dictator. he came up with the dictator thing all on his own. it was quite clear from the very beginning that was where he’d like to be. i wasn’t against the idea, but he needs a better road map. we are very close but there is always this constant struggle…and at times, it can be quite unpleasant. he has read many books on hitler, mao and stalin. i told him those are bad influences. he said all knowledge is good knowledge. then i said why not reading some plato. so he did, and said that was like alternative medicine, good but not as effect on tough cases like the ones he is dealing with. i am not trolling. this is what’s going on in my life.
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Sounds like you both need to grow the fuck up.
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By the way, if you don’t have enough dominance in your relationship to compel your wife/girlfriend to read a 1200 page work of libertarian oriented fiction
I lack dominance to compel myself to read a book that long anymore. After turning 25, the longest book I managed to read was Tai Pan from James Clavell (actually, this is my suggestion of a book that shows alpha behaviour at its best)
One of the good things about the dry spell during the 20-25 years was that I read lots of books.
And I have never met a girl who read a ficctional book longer than 1000 pages
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> I lack dominance to compel myself to read a book that long anymore.
Same here. Seriously, is its message so complex that 1000+ pages are needed to convey it?
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@40 year old Virgin
Take those poor little things into your home, for God’s sake, instead of unleashing those packs uppon good people
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Unrelated: Manboobz plentyoffish profile:
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As a woman, I cosign this post. But you miss a couple things. Yes, I desire a man who is confident and capable of leading me and our family. I want a man who is well equipped to be the captain of my ship. I desire an intelligent man who I can trust to look after me and protect me from harm. That’s right, I want a man that I can look to and trust as my leader and I don’t feel uncomfortable or ashamed to admit it.
The truth is that these men are a very limited supply. A man can act the part of alpha male, king of the castle ect but most men simply can not do it effectively because these are not their true qualities. They are just weak pretenders and everyone knows it.
Someone mentioned that the key to satisfying a woman sexually is to not actually care about her pleasure… That’s 100% wrong. Why would any woman want to have sex with a man who is bad in bed or hurts them? Generally speaking, if it feels good for one, it probably feels good for both. The man that women prefer to fuck is not a selfish lover. His masculine energy is just a part of everything that he does…especially sex. He doesn’t make you feel abused, used or mistreated. This is the man you can be your most vulnerable with and be (mentally, physically & emotionally) safe. That is true masculine energy. And yes when its real, it will turn most women into putty. And in return a woman will devote herself fiercely and offer total submission to that man.
But once that balance is thrown off, it all goes out the window. Its NOT easy to be the “baddest dude in the room” and that’s why most of you will fail miserably at it. If you cant manage all of your bills, responsibilities..If you can not create and maintain a “safe” environment, its a wrap. When a woman has to start doubting or fear the captain, its a wrap.
I believe the first step to developing masculine energy is to NOT focus on how you interact with women. Its how you carry yourself, how you accomplish goals, how you perform at work and how you interact/rank amongst other men. Personal development and skill development is on the decline. Most men do not have much to offer in general (that women cant already provide for themselves), let alone the safe, intoxicating dominant masculine energy that women crave and thirst to drink (lol).
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I think this post is pretty right on..it’s fairly easy to pick out who is the poser masculine guy..someone who is putting on a show, etc. I saw that most often in college (especially with dudes who were in a frat). I guess some guys have to fake it ’til they make it? And a lot of times it will work because girls are desperate for that energy even if it isn’t the man’s true self. I think one of the most dangerous kinds of guys (i.e. the most likely to abuse) are the ones who try to control and maintain masculine energy and can’t fully harness it.
You can’t really blame guys for having a problem finding their masculine self..there’s a lot of forces around them that make it difficult. it’s also hard to have feminine energy these days. it’s like women are expected to be dominant career women and a lot of girls just don’t really fit that expectation. what women need are more masculine men to bring out their submissive side. it can only be revealed by the right dudes. i also love how both of those books were written by women..I wonder what feminists would have to say about that.
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Women want a leader, not a boss. Good post.
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I’ll second that one!
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You know what? Being an effective leader is hard work, and a long time is required to become an accomplished one. Being a smart manipulator is much less work, and most people can’t distinguish between the two. How many true leaders can you find even among those people who run nations?
You have said that a fake leader will be easily detected. My experience with women says otherwise. Plenty of times I’ve heard women complimenting the self-assuredness of some guy I knew was a poser.
Women do not know what leadership is. This is the reason guys complain that women dig assholes. Men are not stupid. If women were after leaders, not assholes, men would correctly recognize that, and work to turn themselves into leaders instead of assholes. Maybe leaders are born, yes, but I’m sure there are more born leaders than those who turn into grown ones, because of bad society guidelines.
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You are correct. Good leadership is so rare now, women don’t know it when they see it and go for douchebags out of confusion.
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More like desperation.
Even I make that mistake, and am stupid enough not to bail as soon as I see the signs.
On the real, I can’t say I’ll never make that mistake again, as selecting the wrong guy is somehow easier for me to live with than being the wrong woman. If you do the right thing, there’s some hope that one day you might meet a dude who can handle you. If you act like a bitch, there’s a 100% guarantee that only the weak would date you.
So yeah, I’m confused or desperate enough to go for a douchebag, but not desperate or self hating enough to go for a punk. I’m probably too old to hope for someone with optimal balance who wasn’t incredibly unlucky, but I can’t say the younger girls who are selecting for whatever they view as masculinity are necessarily doing it wrong.
Probably one of the biggest reasons I’m a supporter of game is that I think it a good thing if guys learn to play by the new rules. Some of them truly suck, but Nature favors the adaptable.
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I once saw a Richie Sambora interview in which he was asked how he went about creating his solo’s. He replied that what you leave out (known as hot space) is at least as important as what you leave in, or when apllied to the pua what you dont do is at least as (if not more) important as what you do.
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titties and beer ftw:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2105339/Laura-Maggi-Le-Cafe-Busty-barmaid-serves-drinks-skimpy-outfits.html?ICO=most_read_module
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“Sexpresso: Wives ban their husbands from visiting Italian cafe where busty barmaid serves up drinks in skimpy outfits”
The hamster can barely catch its squeeky little breath!
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I’ve had a woodie over Laura Maggi- for a couple of days now. All you guys who say women are done at 30 should take a second look. Laura knows how to dress sexy without going overboard. Our skanks should take some lessons in good tasteful erotica. Silvio’s tapping this one as we speak.
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there are exceptions to every rule.
not all women are like that. but damn, we fucking wish they were!
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In Continental Europe, you will see a large number of women in their 30s and 40s as hot as Laura. Not at all uncommon. Laura could pass for much younger in Yankee Doodleland. Moreover, European women don’t take themselves so seriously. They smile and say hello and will converse with you instead of pretending you may rape them if you try to talk to them. AW are extremely annoying for me that way.
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Did you see this little tidbit shoved near the bottom of the story and hidden as a caption:
“An online poll in the local Brescia newspaper asked readers what their opinion was and the majority, 46%, said that women should be ‘asking themselves why their partners prefer Laura to them'”
Well, at least Italian women know they have a problem! It took me finding this site to realize a man isn’t going to find himself in love with me over my mind or personality. Sad how pervasive feminist bullshit is in this country.
[heartiste: that’s not entirely true. while a woman’s looks are a necessary precondition for a man to fall in love with her, a sparkling, feminine personality and intelligence can help fast track the process.]
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I have been thinking about Laura’s attractiveness to men and attitude and personality seem to be key here. Laura is nice looking, but objectively an 8 or so. What makes her appealing to me at least, is her pleasant demeanor and easy smile. She seems to be a happy person and one who is at ease with herself. She seems to be feminine in pleasant, the kind of woman you look forward to coming home to. I see a strong yearning for children in her eyes, however. She looks as if she’d be a great wife and mother.
If it makes you happy, no woman has ever really loved me for my mind either. I used to hope and expect it, but reality has slapped me upside the head on that matter.
Anyone here remember Viva Hate by Morrissey?
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Another book (short story) to consider is “The Short Happy Life of Francis Macomber” (E. Hemingway, 1936). It was later made in the movie “The Macomber Affair” (1947).
If you remember the story, a husband and wife (Francis and Margot Macomber) are on a big-game safari in Africa with professional hunter Robert Wilson. When Francis Macomber and Robert Wilson encounter a lion, Francis runs away. Margot is sickened by his beta-maleness and fucks Wilson that night in his tent, cuckolding her husband.
Francis sees his wife leaving Wilson’s tent and “mans-up” and gains courage in the next hunt with three buffalo. Two buffalo are killed, but one continues to charge Francis. He stands his ground as Wilson and Margot also fire. Francis kills the buffalo at the last minute. But a shot from Margot hits Francis and blows his skull apart.
Hemingway biographer Carlos Baker (“Hemingway: The Writer as Artist”, 1972) claims that Macomber loses his fear as the buffalo charges. It is this loss of fear that ushers Macomber into manhood. Wilson symbolizes the man free of fear (because he refuses to allow Margot to dominate him). “Wilson understands, as he blasts the lion dead, that Margot is a woman who needs to be dominated.”
So was Margot’s shot intentional or accidental? If intentional, she has preserved her dominance in the relationship, after observing her husband becoming an alpha (if only for a minute). If accidental, she became invigorated to save her husband after seeing him become a man, shooting at the same bull as her husband (for once “playing on the same side” as her husband, or even submissive to his life’s mission, if only for a minute).
[heartiste: i read that. it’s excellent and everyone should read it. you can find it hosted online for free.]
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But a shot from Margot hits Francis and blows his skull apart.
‘it just happened’
‘i don’t normally do this’
‘it didn’t mean anything’
[heartiste: lol. ‘not real murder’]
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Her mother—a strong, educated, independent feminist—advised Margot that she didn’t *actually* blow his skull apart. Rather, she was a victim of the oppressive patriarchical *idea* that she had blown his skull apart.
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Hemingway is a marvellous author. A true great. Everyone should check that story out.
Though in the wider context of his work one should view that action as intentional. Hemmingway, for all of his masculine bravado, felt – or craved – submission to a woman. See The Sun Also Rises – an emasculated male (the character literally has had his balls blown off) being played like a fiddle by a horror of a dominant woman and his own personal anal beads have recently been discovered: http://oohboy.wordpress.com/2009/11/21/ernest-hemingway%E2%80%99s-anal-beads-found-in-kansas-city-apartment/
Hemingway – great writer, but not a role model that will assist most in life.
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Ditto for Robert Howard (Conan the Barbarian). Conan as originally written was more of an amused master than meatheaded caveman.
“That’s none of your affair,” she snapped.
“Yes, it is,” Conan answered calmly. “Do you think I’ve followed you this far, to turn around and ride off empty-handed? Be sensible, wench. I’m not going to harm you.” He stepped toward her, and she sprang back, whipping out her sword.
“Keep back, you barbarian dog! I’ll spit you like a roast pig!”
He halted, reluctantly, and demanded: “Do you want me to take that toy away from you and spank you with it?”
I was surprised to find that Howard himself had only one lukewarm girlfriend as an adult, and committed suicide upon his mother’s death.
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Never forget: fantasy fiction is always masturbation.
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Hemingway’s mother was very domineering and tried to pass him off as a girl until he was age six or so. There are photos of him wearing girls clothes when he was about 4 or 5. This, no doubt, got him thinking about the true nature of women early on in life.
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Thanks for the tidbit. I know very little about his history. I suppose this is where ‘Mishima is the Japanese Hemingway’ comes from. Always thought that description bizarre as Yukio’s style is so decadent, but he too was feminised as an infant. Add to that the masculine bravado and suicide and we have a comparison.
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Also interesting: “The Fever Tree” by Ruth Rendell.
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Women want sensible footwear.
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Her: I literally just got covered in vomit. Covered. FUCKing soaked
A case of overanalysis? if F*CK had a hidden meaning, what the hell the vomit references would mean? Either this message had no hidden meaning, just the plain facts, or the hidden meaning of vomit+F*CK was to frightening to comtenplate
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She was trying to convey her sense of devotion to the child and used the child as a bit of a shit test, to see how he would react to being a step father. My suspcion is she was trying to see how appealing she would still be to him although she is dealing with child raising duties. He should have said come out for a drink anyway at such and such a time. If she said no after that, say thanks and break off contact until you want to reinitiate contact, if you do.
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If that’s the case, then though I was overly try-hard, I could’ve done worse. Obviously a sick kid doesn’t scare me off.
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Yeah, once women have children, if they’re any good as people, they put the child first. Good single mothers are always on the look out for a good father figure for their kids. Its more important than game in most cases to them, but they may be foresaking their own happiness for their chidlrens’, whcih can lelad to chumpage. If you don’t have good game, you’ll usually end up a chump with single mothers.
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“but they may be foresaking their own happiness for their children’s, which can lead to chumpage. If you don’t have good game, you’ll usually end up a chump with single mothers.”
What do you mean by “they may be foresaking their own happiness for their children’s, which can lead to chumpage”? What’s the relationship between mothers preferring fatherhood qualities and them making you a chump?
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Brilliant !!!!
This directly relates to SHIT-TESTS !!!!!
She is testing yr dominance. Before I took the Game red pill, I would get beta-upset by the tiniest shit-test. Now I fly past them (negative ghostrider – the pattern is full). So, my long-term gf has been upping the ante. Eg, romantic dinner, holding hands across table, holds up our intertwined hands and says “You have such small dainty hands”. Whatever. Then 3 days ago came the THERMONUCLEAR SHIT-TEST. After swimming, I commanded we were showering together before “cuddle time”, despite protests. In shower, she looks down and says innocently “you actually have a VERY SMALL PENIS …. though it’s normal size when erect.” I laughed and said it’s obviously because she’s not doing her job properly to make it bigger, so start working it baby. I commanded her to the bed and told myself just to give her a good hate-fucking. Next thing, she’s shivering at my touch and quickly has an explosive orgasm before I can start fucking her properly. She then shoves me in and starts bucking uncontrollably, begging me to cum in her. No problem ! After, she’s loving and saying how she loves giving me pleasure, milking me, etc. FUCKED UP !!! What about the really small penis ??? This is THE most insulting thing that can be said to a man. But, it doesn’t matter….it’s the STRENGTH of your reality that counts. I am shocked, appalled disgusted and dumbfounded at the true nature of women….. BUT….. IT DOESN’T MATTER. Women are great fun with this mindset. Btw, an hour after this happened she was ironing all my business shirts, because she thought I looked great in them.
ENJOY THE GAME BOYS !!!!!!!!
[heartiste: if this really happened, all i can say is… that’s some righteous frame control, sir.]
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Yes, it happened. But it FELT more bluff and bluster than frame control. Here is the perspective from my inner-beta……
I wanted to lash out, run-away and cry. Yes, though average length, I do tend to really shrivel up, it’s always been my secret beta fear in change rooms and with women. She’s in the medical field and seen a lot in this department, but never said anything in 2 yrs. No other female has said it either, though I know it’s true. It’s the one thing I cannot change, therefore I cannot acknowledge a reality where it affects me. Remembering Game lessons about delusional self-confidence, I thought I had nothing to lose by brushing it off, especially because of the devastation of acknowledging it. Like the invaders who burnt their boats on the foreign shore, I felt I HAD NO CHOICE but to act Alpha. My post probably went on a bit too much about the actual sex, but I couldn’t believe what actually happened. She is quite successful and always telling how her male subordinates do exactly what she commands, unlike me. I stay because the chemistry and release completely blow my mind. I was a pretend dominator beforehand, but now, thanks to Game, I truly do not care what she or others think.
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I’m pretty sure I would have slapped that bitch into the next century. Good for you for keeping your cool like that. Some serious delayed gratification shit there.
The Germans have a specific word for it, but some guys are “growers” and others are “showers” in the penile department, if you catch my drift. (And then some dudes just have small wangs)
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It was a shit test and nothing more when she made fun of your willie. You reacted correctly.
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“It’s the one thing I cannot change”
Yes, you can. Google around for jelqing and stretching and manual PE forums. Like bodybuilding, there’s a lot of shit to know if you don’t want to hurt yourself, and it requires a lot of time and dedication. And there is a lot of circumstantial evidence that it works…
Anyway, that’s just for the record. I don’t really see the utility of spending time and effort in order to have a bigger schlong, when all you need is confidence and the ability to fly past shit tests.
Well done.
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This is typical in my house.
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Great post.
No man should forget this simple fact: the more you sexually objectify a woman in the bedroom the more she will lust after and become devoted to you. Always take a whip to the bedchamber. You can never go too far.
Though I do feel a postscript has to be added for some readers relating to how dominant one should be outside of the bedroom. Of course it is true that ALL women want a more dominant man than themselves, but, depending on how dominant the individual woman is, a man should scale his pimp hand for a successful relationship with her. A high dominace woman (think masculine digit ratio, small hips, prone to leanness, bisexual, prone to infiedelity, successful/careerist, independant – a Madonna [the singer] type) thrives on a highly aggressive male who shows no quarter to any slight to remain happy with. Whereas, a low dominance woman (think feminine digit ratio, carries most of her weight below the waist, prone to plumpness, conventional in outlook, craves family/children, passive, introverted) needs a more tender touch for you and her to remain happy in a relationship. A low dominance woman treated with a catch all pimp hand and wanton dread creation by you will soon become a distraught and neurotic mess. Try having a fun relationship with that.
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just to confirm… you can’t have an equal partner to be faithful with and share life with, but you can have a whore/pet/slave/fuckchild you have to manage 24/7?
[heartiste: false premise. (this is fun!)]
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Straw man! (very fun)
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Life sucks, we know. We just try to make the best of it.
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Lina Wertmüller’s “Swept Away” is another great depiction of what women want.
It also has the best anal sex scene (tied with Last Tango in Paris)
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[…] In other news, women strenuously deny (probably using “up talk”!) being turned on by the very things that sales figures […]
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So much can be traced back to Universal shafting–I mean suffrage.
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This is why I am crazy for my co-worker, wish I could do something about it.
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WOMAN SEEKS A MASTER.
NOT A MASTURBATOR.
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Another interesting book is Pimp by Iceberg Slim, where he describes how he started and maintained his harem of prostitutes. Pimps persuade women to sell themselves while giving up all of their money. If a man can achieve that, it surely knows how to handle women. There is a chapter where Slim describes a brutal beating to a misbehaving woman of his, which ends up with such woman deeply in lust for him.
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Not sure how it’s a false premise: more like an accurate summing up of the information presented here 🙂 God, who has the calories to waste running someone else’s emotional reality as well as keeping life bearable for yourself? Where do you fit in quality reading time? Or setting aside 10 days to gain a full view of the new Dream Theater album? I love reading these funny/tragic/informative blogs, but yeah… women=hassle no matter which way you slice the pie.
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hugo strikes again. baha
http://jezebel.com/5889669/only-assholes-say-you-wont-sleep-with-them-unless-theyre-assholes
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http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/teacher-leaves-wife-kids-high-school-student-225300504.html
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Pertaining to the original post: A feminist writes, in specific terms, that she wants to be led, dominated, in the bedroom:
http://www.alternet.org/sex/146023/feminist_sex_submissive_how_i_reconcile_my_politics_with_my_sex_life/?page=entire
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[…] often the myth that women like assholes or in their submissive heart of hearts want a master continues to be written and is frequently used to justify men’s bad behavior by telling women […]
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OMFG, you guys are such douchebags. Thanks for the laughs though, you deluded bed wetters and enjoy the rest of your life jerking off alone while you congratulate each other on what studs you are.
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[…] II”Jake – “A Case Against Long-Term Friendship”Heartiste – “What Do Women Want? A Master”Danger & Play – “When Masturbation Leads to a Close“, “The Pull […]
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these stuff were written for they were true, and the writers are kind enough to tell them for free, and readers are free to apply them if they want and get results or if not, just fuck it and ignore it like shit its not our loss, take this for example dude
http://m.jezebel.com/5889669/only-assholes-say-you-wont-sleep-with-them-unless-theyre-assholes
, typical chic comment but it seems like the prof himself is an avid reader of the sphere, I just returned favor to link him here , I gotta admit he’s doin a favor by citing our articles there,
haters, gotta love em
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http://m.jezebel.com/5889669/only-assholes-say-you-wont-sleep-with-them-unless-theyre-assholes
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you saw that link i sent?
haters, gotta love em’ .
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[…] thing, and, as was seen last week at Jezebel, The National Review, Male Fide, and Chateau Heartiste, each of the (combined) thousands of responses these articles will generate will fit into one of […]
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wise, ,very smart eh,
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[…] are strong, independent, self-sustaining, and intelligent. The only thing they don’t have is someone to dominate them and give meaning to their shallow existence. Providing a woman a pathway to the ultimate form of […]
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[…] in a man. Along with humor and intelligence, generosity is a particularly valuable trait. While Heartiste states that if you are going to listen to what a woman says for clues about her innermost desires, […]
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