In this post about indirect vs direct street game, a discussion among the commentariat ensued which included many useful opening gambits for approaching girls on the street, in the day time. Here are the best ones. Some of these are direct (aka bold), some indirect (aka situational), some “indirect-direct” (aka flirting).
“Excuse me, I have to get to a meeting that’s going to change my life, but I think you’re gonna change it, too. Let me have your number, I’ll call you later and we’ll see if I’m right.”
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I have a friend who brings his dog to the bar. Inevitably, girls come up, start playing with the dog, and say, “He’s so cute!”
What does he say?
“I don’t think he likes you.”
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“It’s not really polite to stare at people like that.”
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“I’m afraid I’m going to have to hit on you. Damnit, this is the last thing I needed today.”
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“Excuse me, may I tell you something?”
Don’t wait for answer. “You were walking by just there with a reeeeeally serious expression on your face.”
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“YOU. Who ARE you?” (breaking rapport (accusing) tone, as if she’s not supposed to be there doing whatever she’s doing)
“Oh, uhh, I’m Sally?”
“Well Sally, I saw you from across the room and had to come say hello. I think we’re going to have to have a million babies together.”
“omg lol umm no thanks lol”
“Alright, then we’ll start with coffee instead.”
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“Hey, how do I get to Place?”
“oh, umm I think it’s 2 blocks that way and then turn–”
“lol I don’t actually need directions. I just thought you were cute and wanted to come flirt with you. Who are you?”
“omg lol ummm Sally omg”
“I haven’t seen you around here before Sally, you must be (cold read, teasing, etc.)”
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“Hey, how do I get to Place?”
“oh, umm I think it’s 2 blocks that way and then turn–”
“It sounds like you’re just making that up.” (accusation/teasing)
“lol no I just–”
“If you don’t know, you can just say so. Why are you messing with poor lost strangers who just need help? You MONSTER.” (teasing, accusing, cold-reading)
“omg!! lol no I’m not I was–”
“No, it’s too late, I hate you now. But I’m willing to let you make it up to me over drinks sometime. You free this weekend?” (push/pull, pushing for the close)
“well I have a boyfriend!”
“That’s okay. We’ll invite him too. Then you can give him made up directions so he gets lost and we can keep flirting.” (pushing for the close)
“omg well we’re getting married…”
“Not after we have drinks you won’t be.” (pushing for the close)
etc.
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YOU: “How tough are the cops in this city on jaywalkers? I’ve got a long jaywalking rap sheet. Can’t afford another bust.”
HER: laughs, smirks, whatever.
YOU: “When I was in [foreign country], no one jaywalked, even when the coast was clear.”
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As long as you’re consistently moving forward towards a direct place I think [indirect] is fine.
On a side note, If I stop a girl.. i will say something like “Excuse me…” just to measure her initial level of receptiveness. If she is smiling and seems open, direct works well since she is in a good mood.
If she looks at me in a more formal manner, or like she does not really want to talk, I would go indirect.
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“I know this is going to sound totally random and crazy, and you probably get this from guys all the time, but… [huge pause]…what time is it?”
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Postscript
I hate writing these types of posts because they invariably summon the dummy pantywaist hordes of “dur dur say this magic line and HB10000000s will fall in your lap” anti-gamers who never met a nuance they didn’t reconstruct into an elaborate strawman. So to head off a steamroller of stupidity, I’ll clarify a few things for them.
1. None of these lines will magically cause a woman to have sex with you. Game doesn’t work that way, despite the haters’ and femcunts’ best efforts to caricature it as such. Game is a process. It’s a fluid strategy that employs many tactics to reach the goals of sex, love or sexlovesugarmarriage.
2. Lines like these are effective because they are better than the usual boring drivel and clumsy chit chat that most men resort to when meeting women they find attractive. A girl who hears these lines as opposed to, say, “Do you live around here?”, will be more intrigued than she otherwise would be. And a woman’s intrigue is a necessary precondition to her wanting sex with you.
3. A quasi-canned, ready-to-spit opener, or opener routine, encourages men to talk to women. 99% of potential approaches never materialize because the guy thinks to himself “Damn, I have nothing to say”. Sound familiar? Having a few interesting openers in your head removes that excuse from your self-defeatism repertoire. Now you have something to say. And you’ll feel that weight of hopelessness miraculously lift off your shoulders.
And if none of those work, just say: “If you were a magazine, you’d be Fatherhood Weekly. Nothing but daddy issues.”
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That will get you slapped. I like you name, hilarious.
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Heh… You might be surprised… Sometimes it’s those “get you slapped” quips that buys you the foot in the door on the woman. I’d not lead with that opener, but I can see it working on some of them out there all the same.
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Sandy Fluke quickmeme!!!
http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/36enzw/
For those needing to be brought up to speed:
http://glpiggy.net/2012/02/29/a-birth-control-charade/
http://onestdv.blogspot.com/2012/02/liberal-craziness-paying-for-sex.html
Do your part. Caption one today!
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damn, that was a good descriptor ““surprise!! I have a penis!” game”
yeah, let me jump into the friend zone in order to try to trick you into liking me that way. Good point, dude!
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Street approaching has a greater chance of success if you’re living in a foreign country. Speak their language well, but they’ll still hear your accent and find it very cute. You’re automatically different from everyone else they’re going to meet today.
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There’s always the sailor-nurse V-E Day in Times Square approach: Grab a girl you’ve never seen before and give her a huge kiss. Only works on certain occasions, though.
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Or with nurses, apparently
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“Helooooooo, Nurse!”
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Yareally’s openers are bombastic. No wonder he ends up shitting on girls.
I don’t think a lot of chicks can resist the vibe in the made-up directions opener.
Married/LTR guys should be allowed to lock up and handcuff their women.
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“Yareally’s openers are bombastic. No wonder he ends up shitting on girls.”
True. His ideas would definitely work with me! (I wouldn’t let him shit on me of course but I’d fall in love with him a little)
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Careful, that’s the first step.
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Yes, it is. But it wouldn’t lead to shitting on me, I’m sure this is impossible.
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Aren’t you a nigger? As in mayata?
There won’t be many white guys wasting their precious time on you so it would be in your interest to marry the first one that pays you any attention.
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Probably Mexican and she falls in love with bad boys she hasn’t even met so yeah part Indian is no surprise.
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that’s because your current personality has never been in love. ask one of your other ones.
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“Hey, how do I get to Place?”
“oh, umm I think it’s 2 blocks that way and then turn–”
“lol I don’t actually need directions. I just thought you were cute and wanted to come flirt with you. Who are you?”
I just had two cute girls stop me in the street to do that on me. They started with directions to a shop, then moved on to, “do you know anywhere good to get a drink around here”. I didn’t take the hint (I’m an unfortunately literal minded, although good looking, mathematician) or realise until I’d walked away.
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” oh my God,the men around here are all fags!”
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Haha, this reminded me of this scene:
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Hahaha, that scene. If that happened to me, I’d be extremely skeptical that it wasn’t a joke, but would “reluctantly” agree to join them because I’m a bit tired of walking and need something to drink.
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Amazing 🙂
Especially this line: “If you don’t know, you can just say so. Why are you messing with poor lost strangers who just need help? You MONSTER.” That’s really hot. Whenever I’m lucky to meet a guy who talks to me like that I can’t help but fall in love (a little).
This one is also fantastic:
“Well Sally, I saw you from across the room and had to come say hello. I think we’re going to have to have a million babies together.”
“omg lol umm no thanks lol”
“Alright, then we’ll start with coffee instead.”
This is direct game, right? I like 🙂
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you’re no fun when you’re on your meds.
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It’s more like indirect-direct game, because it’s flirty.
So’s itsme’s comment.
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The most annoying question I get on bootcamp is “What do I say?”
Who cares? Just get in there and don’t be boring. That takes practice.
The problem is guys look at this shit like it’s a science. But to get really good, it needs to be more like art. I wrote a post about it here.
http://www.absoluteability.com/success/the-logic-box-of-doom/
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Ah, but all art has some science at it’s core. The mistake is more in thinking that it’s all the latter instead of a lot of the former. They can relate to science and mechanics more readily than art because that’s kind of how the male brain is wired up.
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It’s a science in the foundation of the process- however an artform in it’s application.
I think men in the beginning struggle with figuring out how to shut off the analytical brain and humanize the experience when in field.
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Just get in there and don’t be boring? Wow thanks. That explains everything.
I have one for you: Buy low. Sell High.
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Are you now moderating all comments or just me? Since when has there been moderation?
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Your postscript is great and very insightful, but I predict that it won’t stop the troll hordes.
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troll=everyone who doesn’t agree with Heartsie.
[heartiste: no, just you. you should feel special!]
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no, it’s not just me.
[heartiste: yes, i’m sure it is.]
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trolls are entertaining.
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Delivery: Think Eames in Inception.
Always slightly aloof; only passingly, marginally interested in conversation with you; cooly distracted by other, more sublime matters.
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Exactly. Delivery, context, and inner/outer frame. Heartiste’s opening opener was delivered by a suited up frequent commenter in the right place, time and frame of mind. If you are schlubbed up strolling back to work from lunch at freebirds or chipotle without a fair amount of urgency, that shit probably won’t work. But if your game is tight, it may. Firing off canned openers from the internet with disregard to delivery and context will not magically start filling your bed with women, but it could throw a couple more in there than would be obtained by sticking your hands in your pockets and checking out the floor.
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In other words: think deeeeeeep.
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Fuck…I totally need a dog.
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This is off topic but newsworthy. A “Story of O” style book is going mainstream.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2107866/It-makes-want-sex-husband-How-X-rated-bondage-novel-unlikely-new-fad-heeled-New-York-moms.html
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I used the “Didn’t your mother tell you it wasn’t polite to stare?” opener in a bar and it worked, and I had a built-in excuse to get out after digits were acquired. The reaction to the line may have been strong enough to overcome my lapsing into semi-interview nonsense afterwards.
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Any suggestions on how to chat up an intellectual-looking girl working in a bookshop? (A sitting duck: I don’t have to get her number the 1st time I chat her up, though I’d like to.)
I have a couple of ideas based on her style, but I won’t give details, just in case she, or one of her friends, happen to read this blog.
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Tell her a story about a white whale would be a novel idea.
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Hello. I want to tell you something. I was over there minding my thoughts when I noticed how serious you look. But I think you have a cute face. You dress like a nerd. Where did you get those glasses?
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Yes, the glasses! that’s probably what I’ll do, a variation of Roosh’s pen opener: excuse me, where did you get those glasses? I need a new pair.
(And the fact is, I really do.)
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Opener: “Excuse me, do you know where the picture books are? These books all have big words in them.”
Tell her you are looking for the illustrated Kierkegaard.
As MPM says, the rest is up to you.
[heartiste: you know me too well. i have used this exact line in bookstores. it’ll be a shame when ereaders put bookstores out of business. a pickup rich environment will have had the doors shut forever.]
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Ha, did I get that line from your writing? If I did, it stuck in my unconscious. That line came to me once when I saw a girl (named Sydney) in the library fiction section and it worked well. My game works best on smarter chicks and I’m sucker for those pretty faces hiding behind intellectual facades.
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That reminds me of the Monty Python bookshop skit. And that opens an entire range of possibilities…
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I discovered a great line…
me: Hey (big smile, like I’ve known her for years)
her: Hi
me: wait…who are YOU?
her: I’m Loren
me: oh…I thought you were someone else…I never know who i’m saying hello to in the winter…everyone all bundled up…(walk away)
her: (follows me) so do you know where the recycling goes? (signs fucking EVERYWHERE)
There’s someone in my sub-conscious mind that is learning, and it spills out like that. Funny thing is that I geniunely thought she was someone else. Clueless Beta that I am, I just walked off, but replaying it later I had a devilish laugh, and am now armed.
Bog bless you, CH!
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People who crap all over canned openers are foolish. It’s nice to have a few canned conversations for the opening and comfort building stages. They aren’t the core of anyone’s game, which the haters don’t understand. They are just nice little staging areas to use on the journery from not even knowing a person to the completely unscripted give and take that comes up from the middle of the first hour all the way to the bedroom and beyond. I’ll doubt even the biggest canned ham out there can get away with a routine that’s over 50% scripted. If that weren’t the case, Funnybot and Encyclopedia Brown types would be fucking bitches all day long. Game is freeflow, like boxing, but it never hurts to have that jab, jab, hook, uppercut combo trained until it’s a built in reflex.
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Agreed.
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depends on how canned it is. an opener and maybe one more line after her first response is about all you can count on.
trouble with clever/canned routines is they often don’t make it easy for girl to say something that keeps the convo going. or they work only if she gives the right response.
take an improv acting class. you’ll learn to go with the flow. where you never say anything that closes off a response from her. where less is more.
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“Europeans were here first. Evidence that North America was settled first by European hunters. Lefties wept.” (CH Tweet)
RamZPaul says a prayer for the invaders.
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This is only of interest to those that want to play the “No, we didn’t steal the redman’s land” game of assuaging White guilt… pretty 14 minutes and 59 seconds ago.
The best defense remains pure unrelenting offense… whenever I hear the “we were here first” nonsense from the skraelings, I merely reply: “With land, much like women, it’s preferable to be the last one there, rather than the first.”
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That’s a bad analogy. Being the last one with a woman puts you in the chump loser category.
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Not for a woman that other guys still want.
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Aboriginal people unfortunately aren’t well adapted to success in modern civilization. As a hunter-gatherer, it’s useful to spend most of your day sitting around (conserving energy), socializing, being resistant to authority, prone to violence and oriented away from long-term investment. These traits are so important to hunter-gatherers that they tend to become genetically programmed.
That’s not to say that it’s impossible for aboriginals to be functional members of *a* society, just not our society. Of course, very few aboriginals are 100% genetically pure anymore, so this has become less of an issue, but it’s still clearly an issue. That and cultural traits tend to amplify genetic traits.
If you want people who will work 17 hours a day, 365 days a year and not complain, you want former rice farmers. Africa and Asia both have cheap labour, but which country gets all the sweatshops?
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You gotta be shitting me dude. This stuff has been settled for a long time, crackpots notwithstanding. Have a read of Before the Dawn for a good overview of the archaeological and genetic evidence. The 10,000 Year Explosion is good value too.
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My favorite? “I don’t think her likes you.” That is fantastic.
My least favorite? The million babies one. It has just a bit of a creepy vibe to it and you had better be sure your cocky game is spot on before you use it. Then is could work well. If you can’t pull off cocky, I would suggest trying another one.
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Oh man . . . “I don’t think he likes you”.
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All guys in here who have read three posts and aren’t aspie nerds can be cocky.
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At least I hope so…
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Agreed.
The dog one is good cuz it’s probably going to be ironic. Ironic negs are pure Astroglide. She comes in looking like a zillion dollars and asks, “How do I look?” You say, “Like shit, but no time to change — let’s go.”
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Even better than irony is the balls it takes to say that to a pretty woman. That courage is highly attractive, plus, if she is game, it could lead to a very fun back and forth if she is good at teasing, as well. I think a lot of women really like a man they can banter back and forth with. It sort of goes back to women liking to play like children.
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Oh yeah, some girls dig that kind of banter, other’s don’t. Some you hafta go easy on, and some want to be teased like a little sister, all the way to tickle fights. Not really my style, but I’ve seen it, uh, “in action” — I mean, like knocking over furniture and shit. Hey, whatever works.
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This is great:
“Hey, how do I get to Place?”
“oh, umm I think it’s 2 blocks that way and then turn–”
“It sounds like you’re just making that up.” (accusation/teasing)
“lol no I just–”
“If you don’t know, you can just say so. Why are you messing with poor lost strangers who just need help? You MONSTER.” (teasing, accusing, cold-reading)
“omg!! lol no I’m not I was–”
“No, it’s too late, I hate you now. But I’m willing to let you make it up to me over drinks sometime. You free this weekend?” (push/pull, pushing for the close)
“well I have a boyfriend!”
“That’s okay. We’ll invite him too. Then you can give him made up directions so he gets lost and we can keep flirting.” (pushing for the close)
“omg well we’re getting married…”
“Not after we have drinks you won’t be.” (pushing for the close)
etc.
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Why always bothering with the anti-game troll brigade? They’re a bunch of aspie gremlins who are only good at spouting nonsensical bullshit on puahate and jizzebel.
There are still people out there who believe the earth is flat. It doesn’t make much sense to persist in convincing fools that they are clinically insane.
Just let them get fatter and stinkier in their moms’ basements. There are enough people who embraced the truths of game.
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no wonder girls only go for the top 5% you’re all morons
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One thing I’ve noticed about good pickup lines is that they include a judgement. A recent one I used on a redhead chick recently at a coffee shop that included a makeout and number close an hour later was “You look Russian”. Gets the hamster spinning as to “why does he think that about me?”. Gotta jumpstart that little critter.
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Also, in terms of having a “canned” opener….I’ve never really thought of it in that way. It’s just that there are certain things about myself and experiences I’ve had that are interesting to talk about that inevitably come up when first getting acquainted with someone. I don’t even think of it as a “routine”, that’s just what happens.
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“Excuse me, may I tell you something?”
Don’t wait for answer. “You were walking by just there with a reeeeeally serious expression on your face.”
Heh, good way to disspell seriousness.
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You idiots dont realize that ya’ll destroyed national cohesion. Thats what you did. KKK was a form of national patriotism, and all you anti-white selfish mother fuckers just threw it all away. Africa for the Africans, Asia for the Asians, white countries for everybody. Wake up! White children will become disposessed, all the while you are saying like a parrot, we’re all the same, don’t judge, be stupid, so we can all get along. Your setting yourself up to be taken advantage of.
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ehhh… there’s one scene in Sex and the City where a guy uses direct game on Samantha on the street. It’s quite a good scene and I recommend y’all watch it.
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Hey, go easy on those guys – the guys who believe Tyler Durden is some real guy. They spurred me to this blog.
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Any opener is better then no opener, I got shut out 2 out of 3 times today. (yeah I only opened 3 today). But the one I number closed went like this….
I am at the climbing gym, and hb 7 was looking at me in a mousy, feminine way. So I starred her down, then went over to where she was belaying some dude. said something about the route, said something funny, threw a subtle neg and then walked away. My mind is like , who is the dude? then I say to my self, a great real opener would be, ” do you climb with your brother alot?” even better if he is bf and not brother…so I really opened with the above statement, and yes, she does climb with her brother alot. Later on i try to get her to climb with us ( me and beta buddy) on some lead stuff…she declines and I neg her subtly and make her laugh, very slight kino. 30 mins later she is between routes, I stop her and make chit chat, tease, soft neg, kino…she tells me they are almost done, so I tell her ( yes I tell her what to do) to go climb her last route and (kino again) to come ( I tell her what to do) and give me her # before she leaves..she did. number close, easy like pie.
somewhere in the middle of this I got her name and gave her a nickname which is a shorter version of her name as well..which Ironically, is something she hasnt heard in a long time.
one thing I want to ask, as I took her # and then I said, ” I am going to text you know” and began texting her, she took a step back from me. maybe not a big detail, but I am in the details. any thoughts?
well bros, you will always fail if you never try. so open every chance you get, and coffee is for closers only.
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More and more men are dropping out of the workforce and instead are emulating those Simple Pickup guys off of youtube who pull hundreds of girls’ numbers off the street using direct-game.
Not so long ago, the average American man in his 20s wasn’t competing with young women as well as other young men for jobs. He was competing with other young men for the favor of young women. When young women become competitors instead of the judge and reward – why should he keep competing? You can’t compete with the referee. Be a skittles man.
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sooooo after your opener workz and you get her number
and you go on a date lzzozlzzol (dating is for betas zzozlzoz)
just remmber: rememebr:
when you’re on a date know taht the girl is working for the federal reserve & during destert that is ben bernanke or tucker max she is texting… or maybe me lzozllzllzlz
last chcik i hooked up with shared this rap with me:
i gots my fiat cash from ben bernake,
gettin’ my dinner from the herb beta,
texting GBFM for a midnight spank me,
i don’t butthex, but i’m no playa hata
lzozllzllzlzlzl
when you’re on a date know taht the girl is working for the federal reserve as she is trying 2 get you to pay for gaining access to the pussy she gave away for free lots in college when she was younger hotter tighter during all the mandatory pre-cats-spinsterhood prima noctae deosuling sessions, in teh same way the fed gets you to bail out the banks who just gambled your pensions savings away when they were younger hooter tighter… or somethihnng… you get my drift .. unless you are a betadipshit lzozlzlzl
lozlzllzlzllz
from an early age womenz are deosuled by over sexulization of briteny spears mileyly cyrus bratz dolls lozlzlzlzlzlzlz as ocmmanded by the fed which must desoul women to make them less loyal t2 god husband family lzozlzl and more loyal 2 the fed lzozllzl and the almighty fiat dollar (which is basless debt zlzozlzlzlz). a fiat system inverts all of entirety exalting secretive tapoers of butthex to the pinnacles of publsihing, while deconstructing teh great books anbd classics lzozllzlzlzl
so when you are out with a womenz buying her dinner chances are
0) she is working for the fed lzozlzl what do you think law shcool business school trains womenz 2 do? to serve teh almighty fiat dollar above all else lzozllzzl and use buzzwords and short skirts to convert fiat debt into physical welath and property as teh fiat debt trickles on down and the phsyical wleath ghushes on up lzozlzlllzlzl ever wonder why goldman sax rhymes with tucker max & gets richer and richer as poeple get poorer and poorer and teh national debt grows and grows? someone must be spenidng the money that is augmenting the debt for everyone else lzozllzz and that would be goldman sachs and the warfare and welfare states it funds, alongside fmeinism, which denies a women her greater chance for glorya nd story and uses her temptress wiles to help the fiat masters convert fiat debt into property lzozlzlzl. poor ladies they end up butter and alone and soulless with cats as teh fed goes lzozlzlzlzlllzllzlzlzlzl women’s right to choose!!
1) someone had her hotter younger tighter for free and you are now buying her dinner
2) she was deosuled in secrteive tpaings of assoccking sessions taped without her conthent which the neocns are fond of lzozlzll
3) when she texts during dinner she is setting up plans for a midnight assocking sessiomn with an alpha who creates welath from thin air someone like the head of the fed who wires it to goldman sax which rhymes witgh tucker max lozlzllzlzl who gets book deals from women-riun publishing houses like simon ans shcuster lzolzlzl because tehy dleight in his debt-creating debuachery-creating art succeth of losing ten million on a twelve million film as well as his asscocking sessions and secretiev tapings of butthex iwthout their girlsths contehnt which he publishes for both neocon pleaseure and profit lzozlzllz
4) if you do get married 2 her there is a fifty percent chance it will end in divroce. lolzlzl would you get on airplane if it crashed 50% of the time? lzozlzllzlzlo hell no!! and what if, after it crashed bevcause your wife was fucking some biker drummer mba in teh cockpit (as he put his cock in her cock pit lzozlzl), what if after she cuased it to crash, you had to give her half your assets and begin paying for past use of her pussy? lzozllzllzlzl plus by going down once the plane will have gone down more times than your wife once she is married–dats a joke! lzozlzllzllz
5) 2/3 to 3/4 of womenz initiate divorce as it transfers a mans assett s to teh fed/divorce regime as womenz are trianed to do in school with promises of her ex husband having to pay alimonies for past use of a pussy and fund and reward her further asscocking sessions tthat hshe hand’t had since college but whcih she missed dearly lzozlzlzloz (once back never back! lzozlzl or once in the back door, nver back! or you make your own joke here lzozllzlzzl i hate puns) she will get full rights 2 the kids and take them with her for her array of step boyfirends/fathers 2 abuse as abuse skyrockets in fmailies where the real dad is absent lzozlzlzlzlzllz, which is why the fiat neooncs detest fatherhood and the heoric spriit zlozllzlzl and love womenz who “tame men” lzozlzlzl and keep them from accessing tehir Natural Rights lzozlzl
6) rising womenz generlaly make more than men these days as they are paid in fiat dollars which really only create debt and so it is that womenz excel at creating debt and they call this wokr lzolzllzlzlzl so let them buy some fiat dinners and drinks with their fiat dollarz lzozlzll
seriously do u guys still date?
i mean i love the laides but they look down on guys who ask them out. lzozllzlzlzlzl
last chcik i hooked up with shared this rap with me:
i gots my fiat cash from ben bernake,
gettin’ my dinner from the herb beta,
texting GBFM for a midnight spank me,
i don’t butthex, but i’m no playa hata
lzozllzllzlzlzl
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Isn’t it funny how women are now leading men in education and work? While the US leads the world in debt? lozlzlz!
Isn’t it funny how women are now leading men in education and work? While the US leads the world in debt? lozlzlz!
When it comes to creating things such as cars, airplanes, tires, the computer, spark plugs, electricity, running water, indoor plumbing, the idea of marriage, the light bulb, the transistor, Great Art, Great Books, and Great Symphonies, women are nowhere to be seen.
When it comes to creating debt, debauchery, divorce, daytime TV, and douchebags, women lead the descent, at teh command of the Federal Reserve System!
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America was once the world’s leading manufacturer and lender. Today she is the biggest consumer and debtor. chix rule!! lzozlzlzl!!
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You are writing like a human being today, are you okay?
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I’m very worried. Great Cocks For Men is everything ok?
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lzozozlz i found my trritalinz and adderoll
butz i lost themm againsg zlzozolzoz
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You know if you could truly focus your mind you would be capable of great and terrifying things. Just saying……
GBFM 2012!
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Today Women Are Working for The Federal Reserve
Once upon a time women worked for their family–their husbands and children.
Today they work for mere debt-based dollars created from thin air.
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Leave it to women to confuse debt with wealth and the prison of spinsterhood with the freedom of being an honorable wife and mother. lozlzl!
Ben Bernanke fooled u! lozlzlz!
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“Game is a process. It’s a fluid strategy that employs many tactics to reach the goals of sex, love or sexlovesugarmarriage.”
100%.
There is great similarity between game process and professional sales process. However please don’t misunderstand my statement to mean a good sales professional would be good at game, or vice versa.
The important thing to realize is that at some point you have to START the process- and there are best practices and the above are excellent openers.
Here is a personal favorite of mine (I beleive it came from Sasha Day Game):
Requires a pre-loaded light compliment about the target, and a pre-loaded ‘fun’ type question.
Ripp: “listen I’m not trying to hit on you I just have a question”
Her: “ok?”
Ripp: “those are cool boots/purse/shoes where did you get those my friend sarah loves that stuff?”
Her: “i got them at x store blah blah”
Ripp: “hmm….cool. ok…now I’m going to hit on you.”
Her: laughter
Ripp: “so if your’re on a first date with a guy and you arrive on time but he’s running late, how much time do you wait before he’s being a jerk and what do you do?
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You can interchange the compliment and the fun question easily, but the punch is the “hmm…ok, now I’m going to hit on you.” It always makes the girls laugh. Great for 2 or more women also because once you pop the fun question they all want to participate. Questions about “first dates” are excellent because women love talking about dating crap and all of them have stories of “some guy” that did “whatever”. Also the question above is so open ended they can answer in any way. Also this type of question can also flesh out if they’re single/bf/dating/lying to you/etc…not that they’re response stops me in anyway (or them)…heh.
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claiming the above post…smart phone doesn’t log me in sometimes.
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“I’m afraid I’m going to have to hit on you. Damnit, this is the last thing I needed today.”
“I know this is going to sound totally random and crazy, and you probably get this from guys all the time, but… [huge pause]…what time is it?”
I like these. They would immediately perk my interest – despite me, since I’m in a happy relationship. Way harder to simply brush off as politely as possible than what I usually get when I’m out with my friends. Also, my female solipsism is trying to figure out what the lines you like say about you, but I’m trying to keep it in check.
Agree with Stingray about the “million babies” line, though. It would be damn hard to make that NOT-creepy. Isn’t it bit too much of a DLV, as well..?
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All of those are shit. One that isn’t pure shit:
“I know this is going to sound totally random and crazy, and you probably get this from guys all the time, but… [huge pause]…what time is it?”
Genuinely funny. The rest have one too far out on a limb for the sake of, let’s remember, a bunch of congenital idiots. This one can be done briskly without coming off as anything but a suave joker.
All the rest depend on being Heartiste himself, who sees himself and the vaginal bozos as characters in an ongoing romantic novel. Not judging — it works for him, grand, but it isn’t how most men live. Most men are clumsy. Fortunately, clever lines like the above aren’t the only way to get laid, even now. I’d rather neg the fuck out of a bitch a la Tucker Max than pretend to be a heartiste myself.
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Congruence is the key. The same “line” can come across as either intriguing or douchey, depending on the guy who delivers it.
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The “vaginal bozos” is a superb phrase.
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Actually, I’ll save you reading a whole book. I’ve got some time off and I feel like doing some essay writing. So, human migration patterns (stressing about day game is so boring): coastal seafaring people in what is now Eritrea/Djibouti crossed the mouth of the Red Sea about 50,000 years ago. From there they expanded along the coastline of Saudi Arabia and India and into Indonesia.
They then colonized Australia about 40,000 years ago, probably figuring out that there was land there from seeing distant smoke plumes of forest fires, or by watching migrating birds. Incidentally, brow ridges disappeared from the fossil record some 40,000 years ago, with the exception of modern Aborigines, who still display them. Finally, our explorers began to colonize the interior, probably travelling up rivers.
Eventually, a similar process was launched about 15,000 years ago from Siberia. Coastal fishing tribes expanded to Alaska, then down the West Coast of North and then South America. From there they expanded inland, probably along rivers.
Now, if you want to get racist about it, the main problem here is that human evolution works a lot more rapidly than people realize. Australian Aborigines and Papua New Guineans kept living in primitive conditions because they didn’t develop any new technology.
Living in small, warring groups meant that Aboriginal societies retained their inability to cooperate in large groups, follow the social norms of large, technologically sophisticated societies, or refrain from killing each other (at least in the PNG highlands). The human fossil record has shown a steady progression from robust, thick skulls to thinner, more fragile skulls as agriculture has put a premium on docile, cooperative humans. In Australia, the advice is not to bother hitting Aborigines in the head in a fight: their skulls are too thick.
Similarly, Asia developed rice farming technology that required successful members to work 17 hour days 365 days a year, and to conform to rigid social norms and large-scale cooperation (allowing large-scale irrigation). Thus, if you want to hire people to work 17 hours a day building iPhones, you want to place your factory in a country that’s populated by people from traditionally rice-farming ethnic groups.
Finally, Western culture was built around farms that were generally not as cooperative in nature. No large-scale irrigation systems. Fewer social restrictions. Higher levels of violence, but not so high as to make us into paranoid murderers like the Papua New Guinea highlanders. Feudal lords and the like still keep Westerners beta enough to follow the rules and be able to work for a living without going walkabout.
Thus, Western culture has a much higher proportion of independent alpha males than Asian culture. And furthermore, the most independent of these alpha males, the ones least likely to bow down to external authority, these are the men who were most likely to branch out and populate the colonies like the US and Australia (Canada was founded by a corporation, the Hudson’s Bay Company, so they’re all much more polite).
Of course, this only provides an average distribution of personality types within that culture, but cultural pressures further magnify these differences into an overall national character. And then technology and culture further shape the available mating opportunities, creating a feedback look that is often self-reinforcing.
What’s this got to do with street-game? Fuck all really. Although I would expect that you’d find more alpha males amongst some racial groups than others, so maybe use that to pick your targets. No wonder Westerners have such an easy time in Asia, once they get used to the etiquette.
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Makes sense too. I’ve been doing quite a bit of reading about the situation in Mexico and their view towards firearms and I’ve come to the following conclusions about their people.
All the Alpha’s/Dark Triads either:
Leave (For less violent pastures in America)
Join the Cartels
Or Join the Military/Police.
Everyone else is a beta at best, who is too afraid to stand up for themselves and their families. Would rather be raped and possibly murdered than own the means to defend themselves and their families. I suspect a TON of marital infidelity with wives of beta’s cheating with Cartel/Military/Police personnel. Even the more recent crops of illegals carry themselves like whipped dogs. I see that country just getting worse.
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Day game = bitch shields down, quality way up.
It’s the only game I pursue, fuck the bar skanks whack-a-cock’n through life.
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Some from Tony Montana:
Tony Montana: Hey baby what is your problem? Huh, you got a problem? You’re good looking, you got a beautiful body, beautiful legs, beautiful face, all these guys in love with you. Only you got a look in your eye like you haven’t been fucked in a year!
Tony Montana: Would you kiss me if I wear the hat?
Tony Montana: You like ice cream?
Tony Montana: You know you have a smokin hot body?
Girl in shower: I know.
Tony: Then you know about that shit you got stuck in your teeth.
Girl: There better not be. I just had a photo shoot and the camera man polished them for me.
Tony: I bet he did.
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There I go, bashing The Dewds
who believe Tyler Durden is real
Quotable
And here you go bringing up
the Historic Tony Monatana…
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Leave it to an Italian to invent the worst Hispanic accent ever.
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Most of the lines are crap, many based on a complete lack of a clue. I liked the YOU , HER lot as these guys clearly haven’t practiced what they preached. The best line was the “what’s the time” but it was to long and too weak. Best line for beginners at street game is:
“hey, excuse me, you have a watch” followed up later by “you know where is”
Don’t talk fast or expect anything and never be hyper or keen (here’s a clue go up to 5’s and above, ie average or better, don’t waste your mindset on fatties/cows), observe there bodies/faces and do 10-20 a day. If you can’t fit in the don’t worry, just get used to asking for the watch and not the time. What ever answer she gives is an opener. No watch allows a tease, watch allows a comment on it, she gives the time again an opener “you sure” then back to the watch, she’s rude you call her out on it showing your higher status. The point with this as a beginners opener is to get you to see how easy it is to walk up to women and start a conversation. Do it for 2 weeks and you have approached 200 women. Thats 200 times to learn to observe and be easy with approaches.
After that the best line is , find something that makes her stand out, is different how ever minor and go up, stop her and ask her about it, thats your opener, getting her to talk about herself. The one thing women like more than sex is talking about themselves.
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Not a cold street opener, but one time amongst friends, someone introduced this girl to me, so she walks over and extends her hand for a shake. I swoop it up with my left, gently cover it with my right and say, “I’m Lando Calrisian, administrator of this facility. And who might you be?” She busts a gut on the spot, and I’m in like Flynn.
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I wonder how many women read game blogs just say call out the men they meet by saying
“Ha! you got that from x’s blog…looser!”
I’m a woman and I do that, FYI
[heartiste: i highly doubt that. but thanks for playing!]
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I read this “game” blog because I finally admitted that feminism has run riot – much like my inner hamster. From here I can reconnect with my innate desire of life while practicing control to accept my position & follow a solid mate as Yin to Yang.
The possibilities are orgasmic. You may want to reconsider the value of CH.
-Woman
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This is brilliant. And, from what I can tell, more and more women are indeed taking the red pill, as they realize that life in the industrial cubicle farm is boring and dull, tedious and soul crushing, as any mining or factory work for men had ever been.
More importantly, life for women without a strong man to lead, without that hot Yang energy, is even more so.
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her: Ha! you got that from x’s blog…looser!
you: so you spend a lot of time reading pua blogs, huh?
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there’s nothing wrong with getting good ideas on the internet/in books/from other people. We all do that. Sometimes you just don’t know what to say in some situation and you listen to other people who are more sociable and it’s nothing wrong to pick their ideas … People who do that are actually very smart and far from losers.
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wow – you must be like, model-hot to get hit on so much
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You’re not the center of the world. You’re just a number in a pua’s many approaches. HTH
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Only losers spell loser, “looser”.
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So what? I’ve had 2 women actually call me out. One accused me of negging her, and the other one was way way back when I first read The Game and used an opener from that book on a 10 in a hugely scene nightclub in Boston I was just barely good looking enough to enter. That’s 2 out of VERY MANY women. And guess what? It didn’t matter. The neg girl was a total bitch, and I turned it around on her by saying “you mean begging you? I’m not begging you for anything. Where are you getting that idea?” She clearly felt like an idiot and thought I really didn’t know what a neg was. She turned out to have nothing in common with me anyway.
The other girl did made me depressed for about 10 minutes until I realized my friend and I promised to meet a few HB’s we met on the street at some other club, then we went there and did our thing and the night was great. So yeah Maria, maybe you’ll spend all your time reading game blogs to call out the few men who ever use them on you your entire life, But the best you’ll do is make them feel a little dumb for 10 minutes. The worst you’ll do is bitchily reject a guy who thought you were beautiful and you might really like.
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oops! should be “just to say!”
blush
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Up and at ’em: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2108377/Meet-new-breed-women-prime-happy-virgins.html
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Hey, good for them for remaining virgins until marriage. However, none of those women are very attractive.They’re dolled up for that photo shoot, so they look better in these photos than on a normal day. But no amount of makeup can hide the ugly truth: These women have frequent threesomes with Ben & Jerry.
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these articles never want to address the 400 pound hamster in the room.
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Run those hamsters as they might, there’s no such thing as a happy virgin past the age of 21… one can tell from the photos that these ladies have been drowning their sorrows in chocolate syrup.
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Re: Winning makes be more aggressive towards the defeated piece.
White male devolution of power into the hands of victimological minority groups has NOT been effective as a strategy to buy off discontent, as it sometimes is suggestively framed and massaged. Instead the rising tide of color and exotica has grown more aggressive, intolerant, chauvinistic, bullying, and expectant.
[heartiste: you got it. liberals will never get this: you cannot buy off peace from antagonistic groups. once they smell blood in the water, a feeding frenzy will erupt until there’s nothing left but fins falling slowly to the inky depths.]
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What about Roosh’s arguments that you shouldn’t tease in day time?
Anyone tried “you have an interesting face”?
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Used this a few times, its been good to me…
ME: (devilish grin) I was just on my way to rescue a kitten out my sick grandma’s tree, but on second thoughts, that can wait
…and just roll from there
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“I bet you’ve heard every stupid pickup line in the book….so another one won’t hurt you!”
“Hi! I’m extremely rich!”
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I agree with a lot of the guys on here that “all these openers are shit.”
But let’s face it, all openers are shit, period. Basic psychology tells us that your words (content) is less than 10% of the communication frame. So what you say has such little significance.
If you’re approaching a target and you look like shit, head down, mumbling and stuttering like a retard it really doesn’t matter what you say, she’s probably not going to respond positively.
But ya gotta start somewhere. And if you’re just beginning it helps to latch on to some routines that have some zesty crap too them…
…better than farting around with what I call DQing or Dumb Questions/Demographic Questions:
“so you come here often?”
“where do you live?”
“what do you do for work?”
…then nod your head, peck like a fucking pigeon, shit smile, stare and say “oh cool” to everything she says.
boring. gay.
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Like most of them. Your summary at the end of why having some openers in mind is spot on. Though myself, I’ve pretty confidant and find talking, bsing, and changing subjects a lot around emotions easy, so I don’t need the crutch often. But good for beginners. And I can see adopting some of these or the spirit of them and think I will.
Don’t like this one:
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My currently favourite:
“Hi. Can I just say something? I was over there when I literally just saw you. You like… nice. Very [insert observation e.g. “spanish”, “serious”]”
If necessary stack with “It’s because of x, y, z” [three observations directly in front of you related to your cold read e.g. “It’s the black hair, thick eyebrows and crazy eyes”]
It’s indirect-direct. You aren’t overdoing the compliment and are immediately stacking your assumptions so she has something to respond to other than just saying “uh, thanks”.
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*look not *like
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OT:
Look at the joy on this 41year old man’s face … he’s sitting next to his 18 year old girlfriend.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/01/mother-launches-facebook-campaign-against-teen-moving-in-with-former-teacher/?test=latestnews
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@krauserpua
that’s a good point on the use of observations. keen eyes must be a big part of one’s tools.
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[…] here https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/02/29/a-short-list-of-street-openers/ 1. Walk side by side to a walking woman and approach her with, “so how is your evening […]
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