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Why Is Women’s Happiness Declining?

March 1, 2012 by CH

There’s been a spate of studies in recent years pointing to a general trend of declining Western female happiness, and a concomitant rise in male happiness. Self-reported happiness levels tend to go up and down rather haphazardly, but a long-term decline since the feminist devolution seems to be happening. A 2009 study called ‘The Paradox of Declining Female Happiness‘ attempts to answer why women are unhappier today than they were in the halcyon days of the 1950s.

The lives of women in the United States have improved over the past 35 years by many objective measures, yet we show that measures of subjective well-being indicate that women’s happiness has declined both absolutely and relative to men. This decline in relative well-being is found across various datasets, measures of subjective well-being, demographic groups, and industrialized countries. Relative declines in female happiness have eroded a gender gap in happiness in which women in the 1970s reported higher subjective well-being than did men. These declines have continued and a new gender gap is emerging—one with higher subjective well-being for men.

[T]trends in self-reported subjective well-being indicate that happiness has shifted toward men and away from women. This shift holds across industrialized countries regardless of whether the aggregate trend in happiness for both genders is flat, rising, or falling. In all of these cases, we see happiness rebalancing to reflect greater hap- piness for men relative to women.

The suggested reasons the study authors give follows:

First, there may be other important socioeconomic forces that have made women worse off. A number of important macro trends have been documented: decreased social cohesion (Robert D. Putnam 2000), increased anxiety and neuroticism (Jean M. Twenge 2000), and increased household risk (Hacker 2006). While each of these trends have impacted men and women, it is possible for even apparently gender-neutral trends to have gender-biased impacts if men and women respond differently to these forces. For example, if women are more risk averse than men, then an increase in risk may lower women’s utility relative to that of men.

Thanks to the patented Heartiste Naughty Boy Translator™, we can decode the above passage for the layman:

“Diversity is making women more neurotic.”

The second possibility is that broad social shifts such as those brought on by the changing role of women in society fundamentally alter what measures of subjective well-being are capturing. Over time it is likely that women are aggregating satisfaction over an increasingly larger domain set. For example, life satisfaction may have previously meant “satisfaction at home” and has increasingly come to mean some combination of “satisfaction at home” and “satisfaction at work.” This averaging over many domains may lead to falling average satisfaction if it is difficult to achieve the same degree of satisfaction in multiple domains. One piece of evidence along these lines is that the correlation between happiness and marital happiness is lower for women who work compared with those who are stay at home wives, and the correlation has fallen over time for all women in our sample.

HNBT: “Women have too many goddamn expectations.”

Finally, the changes brought about through the women’s movement may have decreased women’s happiness. The increased opportunity to succeed in many dimensions may have led to an increased likelihood of believing that one’s life is not measuring up. Similarly, women may now compare their lives to a broader group, including men, and find their lives more likely to come up short in this assessment. Or women may simply find the complexity and increased pressure in their modern lives to have come at the cost of happiness.

HNBT: “Contrary to feminist boilerplate, women really don’t want to spend their lives in direct competition with men climbing the corporate ladder and getting pumped and dumped until their wombs crust over like a sun-baked lake bed.”

Hope this hurts the right people!

PS: Mangan’s covered this topic as well.

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  1. on March 1, 2012 at 1:12 pm H man

    It’s the magazines, fortunately there is a brave legislator trying to do something about it. /sarcasm

    http://www.azcentral.com/news/politics/articles/2012/02/14/20120214arizona-bill-takes-aim-airbrushed-women-ads.html

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 1:23 pm Art Vandelay

      Who needs Freedom of Speech if it could hurt some womans feelings?

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      • on March 3, 2012 at 11:38 am Anonymous

        Freedom of Speech isn’t quite what you and others think it is.

        If it was…you could yell “Fire” in a crowded movie theater with impunity.

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    • on March 2, 2012 at 6:27 am Feeeeeeeelings

      The First Amendment is obviously a second-rate idea, created by some patriarchal women-haters from back in the day. Feelings uber alles!

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  2. on March 1, 2012 at 1:19 pm Jiu Jitsu Maniac

    For younger women: Although women biologically feel the need to pursue alpha men, riding the carousel takes it toll. News flash: women don’t like to be pumped and dumped.

    For older women: Divorce wasn’t all it was cracked up to be. How come now that I am fifty and obese men don’t pursue me like try did when I was 20. Where dd all the good men go?

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    • on March 2, 2012 at 11:09 am Tim E.

      Here it is in action! A younger good looking woman falling for an older, Alpha male.

      Look at the hate from the older scorned women it generates!

      “An angry California mother is alleging abuse now that her 18-year-old daughter is living with her former high school teacher, who left his wife and children to move into an apartment with the young woman.”

      http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/03/california-teen-leaves-school-moves-in-with-former-teacher/

      “Even if their relationship doesn’t break any laws, Able says she “considers student-teacher dating relationships to be not only unprofessional, but immoral.” She also added in an email to the Modesto Bee, that Hooker’s relationship has become a “source of great concern for staff, students and parents.”

      ITS IMMORAL! LOLOLOL!

      http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/teacher-leaves-wife-kids-high-school-student-225300504.html

      The only thing immoral here is the hate and jealousy being paraded by older and scorned women about the way things should be.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 12:52 pm flirtyintrovert

        It’s immoral because the man abandoned his family. If I were that girl’s mom, I would be mad at *her* for taking up with a married man and living with him. This woman still feels the wrongness of the situation, but doesn’t seem to have a moral objection to those things…. so she’s left with charging the man with abuse.

        Student-teacher relationships are indeed unprofessional, but when that relationship ends, all bets are off. I have a friend who married one of her college professors – after she graduated, though.

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      • on March 3, 2012 at 12:08 pm Anonymous

        Abandoned… How do you KNOW that he abandoned them? What the media or the harridans are saying?

        Honestly, we know nothing of what is going on there and as such, none of us are honestly in a position to make statements like yours.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 1:59 pm n/a

        Tim, thanks for bringing this to our attention.

        The 18 year old woman is actually a quite respectable piece of ass:

        Men should be outraged that corrupt police and prosecutors are “investigating” this man, whose “crime,”apparently, is that he is legally enjoying, morning noon and night, all three sweet buttery holes of this quite acceptable piece of legal snatch.

        Men should be aware of the *truly evil and demented* war that is being waged, with an absolute and fanatic relentlessness, by aged misandrist cunts and their white-knight and mangina enablers.

        This fine man in his prime will almost certainly be unable to avoid being raped in prison, because our utterly depraved legal apparatus can find nothing better to do with our tax monies than pay some braindead lawcunts to comb through this couples’ texts and attempt to manufacture some spurious “crime” in order to satisfy the insane rage of aged hags.

        Every single person that calls this man a “pedophile” should be the beneficiary of an retroactive abortion, posthaste.

        For now, celebrate this heroic and simple man’s drive to bake his cock in the hot, steamy and luscious cunt ass and mouth of this fine teenaged woman.

        Amen.–

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 2:34 pm Holden Caulfield

        Another example of the attempted shaming of male sexuality, while shaming of fatness and whorish behavior is seen as socially unacceptable. Letting women make irrational decisions without consequences is contributing to the decline in female happiness.

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  3. on March 1, 2012 at 1:20 pm Art Vandelay

    Well I can already see feminists plotting to make men’s life more miserable so that women can be relatively happier.

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 4:57 pm Fred Rotten

      Your comment is both humorous and unsettling!

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    • on March 2, 2012 at 6:29 am tyrone

      Haven’t they already been doing this for decades?

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  4. on March 1, 2012 at 1:20 pm blert

    Falling off the pedestal hurts the tush.

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  5. on March 1, 2012 at 1:21 pm j.d.

    What does diversity have to do with it? sloppy thinking.

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 2:17 pm Stuki

      1) Diversity -> less social cohesion -> greater fear that someone in the vicinity may be a criminal.

      2) Women more risk averse than men.

      Combine 1) and 2), and women’s happiness takes a bigger hit from increased diversity than men’s do.

      Another reason, less PC but perhaps eve more important, is that “diversity” in America means an influx of people of lower social standing than native SWPLs, who are the demographic commissioning these studies to begin with. For men, that means hordes of young, poor, starry eyed, inferiority complex ridden immigrant girls ramrodded through public indoctrination institutions that in practice teach them little more than that being “liked” by someone as close as possible to an Abercrombie&Fitch SWPL is the high point of aspiration. Cue East Asian girls 20 years ago, Indians and Mexicanas/Latinas today. Pretty easy pickins, in other words. For women, it simply means an influx of men they have been taught are “below them”, and hence, due to hypergamy,, unattractive.

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    • on March 2, 2012 at 6:29 am tyrone

      Stupid lefty, go away.

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  6. on March 1, 2012 at 1:25 pm gig

    Similarly, women may now compare their lives to a broader group, including men

    yeah, that’s true. Women now are able to see either on the internet or in TV how men are able to stand to pee. And that hurts, and hurts A LOT. You know, it is not only stand to pee, but being to aim and doing it anywhere.

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 1:56 pm Miss_Fu

      LOL!

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  7. on March 1, 2012 at 1:33 pm Maya

    “Hope this hurts the right people!”

    ❤

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  8. on March 1, 2012 at 1:34 pm peterike

    Why are women less happy?

    Short version: because they want want want that which does not exist in any known reality.

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 1:41 pm Stingray

      Here the reality: There is what women think we want and then there is what we actually do want, which is usually a mystery even to ourselves. Fun isn’t it?

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 1:42 pm Stingray

        I should stop posting while tired, “Here’s the reality . . .”

        Good grief.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 8:25 pm Crank

        Which is one of the many reasons one has to wonder why they’re allowed to vote. Some more are in this video.

        http://screen.yahoo.com/what-are-women-really-saying-28434359.html

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      • on March 4, 2012 at 4:41 pm The Man of Mystery

        i could watch about 1 minute of that before i wanted to slap every woman I’ve ever known

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  9. on March 1, 2012 at 1:43 pm ve

    Re: the tweet about virgins, you should put an NSFL tag so readers aren’t shocked by the gory pictures.

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  10. on March 1, 2012 at 1:43 pm Maya

    “One of the descriptions in this headline does not belong with the others. And that explains everything. http://t.co/SNJTSXvW 15 minutes ago”

    Which one? Attractive?

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 2:13 pm Anonymous

      Damaged whales with daddy (or other) issues the lot of them. I wonder if anyone finds anything to aspire to in these examples.

      Amazing.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 8:28 pm Crank

        I’d nail the last one.

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 4:54 pm john

      I am sorry Maya but “Lucy Richardson” is one virgin I would gladly relieve of that burden!

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 5:27 pm John Norman Howard

        I demand a test… if that woman’s a virgin I’m Bonnie Prince Charlie… look at that smug/come hither look in her eye.

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 5:11 pm Fred Rotten

      It’s curious that the women featured in the article exhibit all the qualities we’ve come to know of and love as ‘asexual’, yet this time the paper has decided to market them as ‘virgins’.

      And look here, Maya: Please don’t let’s start about the differences between ‘asexuals’ and virgins. The only reason I’m posting this comment is because it makes me feel like a big shot, okay? Don’t take that away from me.

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    • on March 2, 2012 at 12:20 am Fubsy

      Wow. I’m gonna invest in Ralston-Purina, maker of cat chow.

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    • on March 2, 2012 at 2:02 am Days of Broken Arrows

      Thanks for making my day with those wonderful photos. I didn’t read the article because I already have some retina damage (seriously) and didn’t want those pics to do any more damage.

      Beyond that, WTF is up that women like this would pose for such an article?

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  11. on March 1, 2012 at 1:51 pm Annette

    I actually couldn’t agree more with this.
    Great post.

    Slightly OT: Heartiste, I’d love to hear your arguments against Jenna. I can foresee her irritating you quite a bit.

    She talks a bit about how romantic comedies actually make women more dissatisfied with their marriages precisely because they want that which doesn’t exist. Slightly relate able. There’s even a bit in there relating to your previous post on the Oscars. Fate?

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  12. on March 1, 2012 at 1:53 pm Professor of Women’s Studies

    Blah blah blah oppressive patriarchy blah blah blah misogynistic men blah blah blah male privilege blah blah blah sexism blah blah blah glass ceiling blah blah blah old boys network blah blah blah rape culture blah blah blah exploitation of women blah blah blah human trafficking blah blah blah female empowerment blah blah blah you’re just intimidated by strong independent women blah blah blah you probably have a small penis blah blah blah if you’re attracted to women younger than I am then you are a pedophile blah blah blah blah blah blah blah ad absurdum.

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 7:36 pm Anon

      Thank you, professor.
      Enlightening, empowering intervention.

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    • on March 2, 2012 at 1:33 pm Money Shot

      Brilliant!

      May I quote you?

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  13. on March 1, 2012 at 2:04 pm Jean-Luc LeGame

    “Finally, the changes brought about through the women’s movement may have decreased women’s happiness.”

    Surprise surprise. Men keep on trucking though. I’ve always been able to be fairly happy, regardless of what was going on whereas women can get everything they ask for and be miserable.

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    • on March 2, 2012 at 12:51 pm Fred Rotten

      “…women can get everything they ask for and be miserable.”

      And THAT, my friends, is why women’s happiness is declining.

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  14. on March 1, 2012 at 2:06 pm Samuel

    Womyn want to be subjugated by a skilled, quality male.

    Have you ever seen a dedicated submissive? They are the happiest, most content girls on the planet.

    We cannot look at what womyn SAY they want, we must look at the actual cause/effect results. When they get what they say they want, the piss and moan and become unhaaaapy. Choice addiction is killing them too.

    When they are well-disciplined and not allowed to exhibit ill behavior, and get punished when they do, and praised when they do right, they are OH so happy. Then if they get sexually dominated too, its ALL good.

    I almost feel sorry for them, for buying the lies, and being so unable to hear the truth, and no one around to show them how things REALLY are, so they ride the cock carousel and become bankrupt souls, with no clue that “happiness” is even possible, or ever was.

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 2:42 pm Kay

      Couldn’t have said it better. See my comment below.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 4:01 pm Anon

        1. Men are happier because (a) the alphas can get pussy without resorting to patriarchally enforced, time-consuming tactics like wooing or having some kind of stable job, and because (b) the omegas can now legally retreat into the largest available ocean of porn in the history of humankind.

        2. Women are unhappier because they envisioned themselves having the same “freedoms” that traditional alpha males do (greater access to sex, admiration, power, meaningful careers, money, etc.), but now realize that, other than having greater sexual access, the majority of women are more akin to beta males than alpha males.

        As someone once pointed out, when women talk power & equal rights, they are talking about being on par with the alpha males. They never counted on being part of the beta population when they joined the boys’ club.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 12:25 am OzGirlie

        Very true. Most of us sheilas (chicks) get stuck in shit dead-end jobs. My job is OK but not that big a deal.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 10:57 am Wrecked 'Em

        When womyn complain that there are so few female CEOs in the Fortune 500, they manage to ignore the fact that most men aren’t fortune 500 CEOs, either.

        They wanted so badly to join the club, only to find another thing they’re only average at. Depressing it is.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 3:15 pm OzGirlie

        Call me a woman, or a chick, or a sheila, or even a bitch. Just don’t call me a “womyn”.

        I agree we are mediocre at most things. As that French chef said, men are good at being chefs, women are good at putting on stockings.

        Off to put on my stockings now.

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 4:28 pm AlphaBeta

      “Have you ever seen a dedicated submissive? They are the happiest, most content girls on the planet.”

      +1

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 12:22 am OzGirlie

        +1

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  15. on March 1, 2012 at 2:08 pm Justin Wayne

    This is exactly what I’ve noticed. Celebrity women are perfect examples. They always get married-then-divorced…They are never happy and tend to leave because they can (due to being independently wealthy and spoiled). In the old days, the women would jus the more thankful and they would cope with the inevitable turbulences that all relationships face eventually… This is why the dating world is pretty crappy for the average guy in America, England, Canada, etc…

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  16. on March 1, 2012 at 2:10 pm Flavia

    Because nesting, commitment, monogamy, marriage, and children make women happy….and these are all the things feminists have been weeding out of our lives. Not to mention wages not keeping up with inflation, materialism, anomie, and prescription pill dependency.

    Frankly I’m surprised that anyone embedded in the zeitgeist has any joys in their lives at all.

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 2:50 pm Lara

      I’m glad you brought up nesting. One of my favorite things to do is small projects around my house. I know a lot of women who are like that.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 2:55 pm Flavia

        Hi Lara. Me too! I especially like to salvage old thrifted furniture- I can sometimes sell it for a good profit too. There is something extremely rewarding about turning a house into a beautiful home and it makes me feel like I am contributing in a very special and feminine way….

        If you’re somewhat SWPL-y and into decorating this blog might make you chuckle:

        http://fuckyournoguchicoffeetable.tumblr.com/

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 6:46 am tyrone

        Most women like to do this from my observation, especially if they are happy already.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 7:21 pm King A's Bastard Son

        I’ve often said all women are bird-brained.

        Flavia and Lara have just confirmed it.

        Nest away, birdies!

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  17. on March 1, 2012 at 2:14 pm John

    Looking at the charts in the PDF it appears that women have been dramatically happier than men over the past 30 years and there was only one poll question where there seemed to be a trend in reverse directions. It almost seems that the point of this study was to conjure up sympathy for more fake female victimhood.

    The data don’t seem to support the conclusions at all.

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 4:31 pm Tyrone

      I think you need to take a second look.

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  18. on March 1, 2012 at 2:23 pm GeishaKate

    What most women don’t consider is their very presence in the work force makes it impossible for men to support them. By putting their energy into their own careers versus men’s, they are essentially shooting themselves in the foot later on. At first it is you “get” to work, then it is you “have” to work. Its also the difference between your twenties and your thirties.

    Under the current system, we (women) are subverting our natural intincts. We are not supposed to express that we “need” men. Needing a man is looked upon as a weakness instead of a natural occurance. And please note that I am not talking about needing men necessarily in a monetary sense, but needing them for their strenth, their perspective, their warmth, and a thousand other minutia that make them so yummy.

    * above condensed from another post

    In essence, women have to abdicate the thrown in order to find their happiness. All the cliches are true. You can have it all but not all at the same time. Money doesn’t buy happiness. If you think you can do everything better than a man, you’ll probably never have one. Oh, wait. I made that last one up.

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 2:26 pm GeishaKate

      * throne 🙂

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 2:43 pm Renee

      But if women define their identity, self-worth, happiness with being with a man, then that’s a problem. I see what you’re saying, but it’s important for a woman’s identity to not be only that of the guy she’s with.

      As for being in the workforce, many times women work because they have to right off the bat in order to support themselves before marriage (if they desire marriage and/or kids). And it’s nice to have some cash of your own to fall back on, especially in the case of divorce.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 2:59 pm GeishaKate

        I agree with you. I think, like everything, there’s a fine line to walk.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 3:02 pm Cranberry

        I must disagree, Renee. I did not find my true identity, my best and most fulfilled self, until I met my husband. I commented on the matter below.

        Working is not the inherently bad thing, sometimes it is necessary for survival, especially in the instances you mentioned. But a career alone cannot define a woman, even though some think that a fulfilling job can take the place of a woman’s natural role as a nurturer and provider for her husband and children.

        I also think the idea of “work” with regard to women has been over-simplified to mean either a woman stays at home and has no income or works outside of the home for money, when in fact, women frequently worked for money from the home or part-time outside of the home. Educated women were editors or tutors, or did accounting for the family business. Rural and urban women could be found employed as cooks or laundresses, or in home-economy jobs that did not generate income but which halted the need to spend money outside of the home, i.e., canning and preserving food, sewing and mending clothing and household goods, or trading goods or services between neighbors. In more modern times this might mean making or at least saving money by doing cleaning services for other people, providing in-home daycare, gardening, cooking, or tutoring.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 4:36 pm Emma the Emo

        I think having your own identity before meeting a man is fine, but not crucial. Our identities are not constant anyway, and always could use a little more improvement. I’m a big fan of the idea of growing together as people. Growing alone works too, but together you gain skills and virtues you couldn’t have gained alone.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 5:50 pm GeishaKate

        ^ Like. The problem is when you get involved with someone who doesn’t want to grow. Or the conditions under which you fell in love alter dramatically- when one person’s growth surpasses the other. As in all things, the man should be the leader and help foster growth as a couple/family.

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      • on March 6, 2012 at 10:31 am Lele

        Like.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 5:34 pm carolyn

        ‘Rural and urban women could be found employed as cooks or laundresses,…’

        ‘In more modern times this might mean making or at least saving money by doing cleaning services for other people, providing in-home daycare, gardening, cooking, or tutoring.’

        this seems like the worst of both worlds, being that it’s really the extension of more of the same for the stay-at-home mom, housework, except for cash compensation. which is only one, albeit big, source of the satisfaction of a job. but the informal bonds and interactions between me and my coworkers is my fondest memory from when i was working. many other woman probably find the stimulation and fun in an office environment infinitely more
        interesting than what you suggest, if they _can_do something else.

        my point is that if you must work for compensation, get out of your house and do it with other people around. it’ll be a tonic for your mental health.

        i’m in a storytelling mood….way back in my extended family it was the practice to lease big brownstones in park slope and rent rooms out to boarders working in the brooklyn navy yard. the mom had to do all the cleaning for the tenants inc. their laundry. w/o a car, she had to do the grocery shopping and cooking for them as well as the family. family lore reported this work as exhausting and with no informal compensations such as chitchat with coworkers, having lunch with them, going out for drinks etc, iow just unrelieved drudgery. the dad of course, got the benefit of extra cash w/o worrying his wife would acquire any ‘outside interests’. she was way too tired for that. ah ha haha.

        the next generation of girls had opportunities to do the same. their reaction–‘no. HELL, no’. and so they went off to their not very lucrative jobs in the city bureaucracy since those were greatly to be preferred.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 8:34 pm Renee

        Working is not the inherently bad thing, sometimes it is necessary for survival, especially in the instances you mentioned. But a career alone cannot define a woman, even though some think that a fulfilling job can take the place of a woman’s natural role as a nurturer and provider for her husband and children.

        I do think it’s possible for women to have no desire to be mothers or married at all and be satisfied with a career. Not all women are meant to be mothers, just like all men aren’t meant to be fathers. At the same time though, I don’t think it’s healthy for anyone to be solely defined by their career. There is more to a person than their occupation.

        As for career women who are wives and/or mothers, I don’t know, personally I find it hard to juggle all of that. But I guess it depends on the occupation.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 5:10 pm RafterManFMJ

        LOL yes; Cash of your own to fall back on-priceless.

        Also like the ‘just happened’ tenor of divorce. Like it’s a random act ‘OOPSIE! I am divorced’

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 5:53 pm GeishaKate

        Women often spend a year planning their wedding. Its WAY more important to plan for a good divorce; it lasts longer.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 5:34 pm John Norman Howard

        Renee, you just encapsulated the entire grocery list of feminist rationalization… which (ahem) has led to women’s unhappiness.

        Do not pass Go… do not collect $200.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 8:19 pm Renee

        Lol, how exactly? By working to have some cash of her own in the bank (especially if she’s living on her own)? Or not defining her entire self by the man she may be with (although I do understand Cranberry’s point about finding a more fulfilled and improved self when you find the right person).

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 1:33 pm Fred Rotten

        John Norman Howard is correct, Renee. It’s clear that your intentions are sincere, and on the surface they sound rather commendable. Furthermore, you’re not all up in our collective digital kool aid, screeching on about your hatred towards men.

        However, you’re showing your hand when you say things like, “Or not defining her entire self by the man she may be with…” Not only does that kind of hyperbole not serve anyone, but it’s tinged with that unique combo of belligerence and black-and-whiteness that’s the hallmark of feminism.

        Unfortunately, when you qualify your post with, “…although I do understand Cranberry’s point about finding a more fulfilled and improved self when you find the right person,” it’s picked up on by the more alert reader as typical feminist solipsism.

        I’m sure you understand that this is not a personal attack.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 11:50 pm OzGirlie

        Renee, I really want a man. I have a great one, and I don’t want to lose him. OK, I am a bit of a submissive, but if he wanted me to go to another city, I would follow him, no question. I have an OK job, but when you get right down to it a job won’t cuddle, you know?!

        And I like adapting to my guy. I have changed the way I look quite a bit, to keep him turned on and interested. I want to have all the skills to keep him as long as I can. It’s a competitive market! I am not the best looking girl (my bf says my legs are my best feature and I am fashionably thin), but I take care to make him feel like a fucking king. And it pays off. My ego can take second place.

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  19. on March 1, 2012 at 2:26 pm Tyds

    “Why Is Women’s Happiness Declining?”

    Who cares?

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 2:53 pm Legion

      We have a winner.

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 3:20 pm Southern Man

      Thread over!

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 3:33 pm 357

      Everyone should.

      The ideological forces causing women’s unhappiness, i.e., liberalism and its handmaiden feminism, are proof that the fantasy ideology is a spectacular failure. When the SHTF, the cited studies might act as lodestars guiding us back to sanity.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 5:24 pm RafterManFMJ

        No. There is no need for caring, or for studies. Turn your gimlet eye back to what social structures existed in the West for, say 500 years before the current fantasy economy was conjured up by a fiat currency and debt-based, inflation expansion.

        Again, who cares? You are right in that it will all burn – and the fact of the matter is most women hold BS jobs that are unproductive, in fact are counter-productive. Government, regulatory agencies, lawyers, etc.

        In a followup,

        Q. What did researchers say were the top 10 inhibitors to a woman reaching orgasm?
        A. Who cares?

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    • on March 2, 2012 at 10:03 am Greater Omega

      I always skip the replies from female nicks. I damned near had to skip every reply to this article.

      Amazing the amount of yeast posting here these days!

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  20. on March 1, 2012 at 2:26 pm WG

    Women are surpassing men in earning degrees at all levels of higher education. But if you read the “100 reasons NOT to go to grad school” (http://100rsns.blogspot.com/), you’ll see why this is a Pyrrhic victory.

    If “success” equates to unhappiness, what’s the point?

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 2:53 pm GeishaKate

      “If “success” equates to unhappiness, what’s the point?”

      Excellent question! Masters degree and married at twenty-two, dissatisfied and divorced at thirty, I had every”thing” that should make me happy, yet I was not. Why? Well, aside from a spouse with an addiction who was drinking away our money, unwilling to support me so I could be a full-time mom, I WAS TOO SUCCESSFUL! It is my belief that a couple will never be truly happy when the woman is “superior” to the man. This leads to an interesting dilemma. Find a man who isn’t threatened (very hard to find) OR reduce/hide your success/don’t seek that kind of success in the first place? I’d be VERY interested in hearing thoughts on that: the solution for women. It is obviously the topic on which I am most passionate.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 3:17 pm Holden Caulfield

        Answer: You only have to settle if you can’t have the alpha male. Since that applies to 90% of women, they should be focusing on their #1 asset. Can you guess what that is?

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 4:10 pm GeishaKate

        Keeping their ass in shape? 😉

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 3:29 pm Anon

        Solution for women: marrying older well-established guys when they’re still young ripe and innocent.
        Everything else is doomed to failure.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 4:12 pm GeishaKate

        Already did that. Next solution? Maya and I are counting on you! 🙂

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 5:46 pm Vagabond

        …and goes without saying – you need to pick your stock carefully. Learn to recognize potential in a man, and help him develop.

        Also, there is no formula for success – some risk will always be there.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 5:56 pm GeishaKate

        Good advice. Thank you, Vagabond. Yes, all too true that there is always a risk. Eventually, one hopes it will work out 🙂

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 3:50 pm Maya

        “I’d be VERY interested in hearing thoughts on that: the solution for women. It is obviously the topic on which I am most passionate.”

        Me too …

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 5:31 pm RafterManFMJ

        I’m very confused by your post; you had no income, yet he was drinking away your money? Your massive savings, maybe? Is that it?

        So you divorced him because he failed to support your wish to lie around the house…oh, and he needed to pay your student loans, your car loan, your insurance, plus all the new expenses that baby brings? I’m not surprised he drank; I’m amazed he wasn’t riding the Horse, on the H train.

        Sounds to me your life is exactly what you made it…not a bit of direction or planning, just a random series of choices with no thought and certainly no acceptance of your own responsibility.

        Now you’re on the wrong side of 30 with at least one sea anchor dragging behind you – and you’re still searching for answers? Haven’t got a clue yet? Sweetcheeks, I doubt you ever will.

        “Find a man who isn’t threatened by your job success…” Yes, again, it is the fault of the men; heh, you post is a rich vein of ore to be mined for what ails the ‘women’ of the West. Thanks for posting.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 5:49 pm carolyn

        whoa… what do you know of geisha kate aside from what she chooses to share with us here. and yet here you are jumping all over her having made a lot of unsupported assumptions.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 6:14 pm GeishaKate

        Thanks, carolyn. I can clear up the confusion and its going to have to be personal or else no one can offer any real help. And I would like to provide an alternate view for the men here to see, its not only them who can get hurt in a divorce.

        Yes, we had income. We both had good jobs and made good money for our area. When you do make good money and you don’t understand why you can’t save any and you see the bill from the country club and you realize all those beer cans littering the entire garage are not just because he hasn’t picked up in a while but because he’s consuming large quantities of alcohol every day, you realize your money is being drunk away. And it become chrystal clear when he uses a golf club to smash someone’s face that you weren’t imagining anger issues.

        Add to that you stuck beside him through a cancer that was most likely linked to the drinking, saw side effects occurr because he still drank on the medication he wasn’t supposed to, and still, despite a life-threatening disease (that I financially supported him through) would not give up drinking or even admit he had a problem, I decided I could no longer live in that climate. I tried to make it to the fifth year after his diagnosis, but I only made it four.

        I didn’t have any student loans, I essentially came with a dowry and he left the marriage with 140K after I sold all my stakes in the family homestead.
        I understand my responsibilites and how I, in some ways, may have contributed to his drinking. I con’t consider my daughter a “sea anchor” but it is true, many men have declined to be involved with me in part due to that. They don’t know how much fun she is 🙂

        He COULD have supported me for a few years so I could have been a stay at home mome. The relationship was a hollow shell and, quite frankly, we are both healthier and happier apart. All I was was an extra paycheck to support his addiction. I haven’t ever even required him to pay the full amount of child support the law calculates so that he would not be starting over financially.

        None of these were easy things to do, yet I did them, and he has even gone so far as to thank me for how I handled things after seeing what happened to his brother in his divorce.

        All women are not the enemy and everybody has a story: one you might never imagine. Excuse typos- can’t see half the post.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 6:42 pm Matador

        Kate,
        You’re a fine feminine woman, although you’re heading towards the wall at full velocity.
        Don’t feel the need to justify yourself to the angriest guys. Your writings are sweet and feminine enough to grant you a witness chair at the back of our gentlemen’s club.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 7:00 pm GeishaKate

        Aw, now that is very sweet and really makes my day. Let me just adjust the brakes on my rollerskates and see if I can’t slow down a bit 🙂 If that wall is brick, this is going to hurt!

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 7:02 pm RafterManFMJ

        Good Lord.

        Well, accepted at face value you sure are a rarity. Did you overshoot in your choice of men, or was it just poor luck, then?

        And as for your daughter – how fun she is isn’t at issue. The fact that she’s another man’s issue – is. Not many men want to raise another man’s get.

        For some an interesting read, pick up The Red Queen by Ridley. Might shed some light on not where you’re wrong, but how your very perspective leads to the wrong avenue of inquiry.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 7:59 pm GeishaKate

        Well, I have been called an urban legend 🙂 There’s more to the story, but that would really be pressing your faith in women’s moral fiber to the limit.

        I was nineteen when we fell in love and he was much older, of course. I was more naive and headstrong than I am now: always believing and drawing out the best in people till they shock the hell out of me with who they really are.

        Yes, I realize that 😦 Of course, they wouldn’t really be raising her so much as being a role model as she is parented and provided for already by both of us.

        I have heard of that book before, but I haven’t read it. Thank you for the suggestion. I will get it.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 2:44 am coconuts

        Haha god, why is everyone trying to shit on GeishaKate? “You could have been nicer,” “you could have been more supportive,” “you probably nagged him into drinking anyway.” You sound like the victimized self-pitying women that you complain about.

        When she withholds gushy feelings about losing her husband to cancer because she wants to remain a professional-sounding adult woman, it’s obviously because she didn’t love him and only cares about money? What happened in your lives to make you all so bitter?

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 1:12 pm GeishaKate

        “You sound like the victimized self-pitying women that you complain about.”

        I must admit, I agree.

        “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.”

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 7:42 pm DiamondEyes

        Come on now, give it a rest.
        You are trying to paint yourself as a good little martyr but you started the story in the middle.

        YOU chose to spend the best years of your youth dating, and then marrying, an alcoholic.

        He did not suddenly start drinking when you married him (unless you really are a headache).

        This problem was there from the very beginning, and yet YOU chose to overlook it for your own selfish reasons. We will never know the reasons but we can all bet that they have to do with him being an older, wealthier alpha that made you feel ‘safe’ or some such tripe. That’s how anger issues are described BEFORE the divorce: “I love how I feel so protected by him.”

        What’s more, even though you knew he was an alcoholic, you wanted to bring a child into this world with him. A child that very well may have been abused.

        That was no matter to you. The quality of the father was just an afterthought. What really mattered is that you get to lay around fattening up like a sow and abandoning the career that your expensive masters degree got you, while he was left to pay all the bills by himself.

        Drinking your money away? Maybe if you lived at the poverty line. It’s not even possible to drink more than about $1200 a month without killing yourself in pretty short order.

        His escape into booze (likely to escape your incessant pressuring) was just a convenient excuse for you to shit on your marriage vows and add to the rotten US divorce stats.

        You were completely irresponsible and negligent in your decisions.

        Meanwhile I’m sure there were dozens of nicer guys with less money or less alpha, but you ignored all of them didn’t you.

        You are exactly the woman that any astute reader of this blog would run far away from.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 8:10 pm GeishaKate

        I will give it a rest. He was the first person I had a relationship with. He was not wealthy, but we did become successful within a few years. At one point I had vowed I would never have a child with him, but after the cancer, it seemed like something he really wanted. I hoped it would bring us together, as people often do. It did not. He left me alone in the hospital moments after she was born and told me I looked disgusting. I tell you these things not for sympathy. I don’t need it. I’m explaining what happened. I was/am not fat and was actually in better shape post baby. Lots of calorie burning in nursing. The book of GeishaKate’s life is currently closed.

        *heartiste: thanks for choosing this important topic

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 9:58 am carolyn

        pile on, guys!

        keep in mind that geisha kate and other women posting here do you a service by reminding you that the pick-up algorithm may be less than mathematical in its precision than what’s presented here; that less than optimal real life situations one may find oneself in can’t easily be reduced to who’s right and who’s wrong.

        so here we have geisha kate, that wild-eyed radical feminist, giving us an account of her doomed marriage, in which she _acknowledges_ she may be partly at fault. what does she get in return but fingers pointing at her in shrill moral condemnation. is it too much to ask yourselves what you would do in her situation? or is it just too much fun to dump on a representative of the female sex, the one so many here bitterly resent, when she commits the sin of making herself vulnerable.

        [heartiste: i haven’t been following this drama, but GK at least *sounds* feminine in her writing, so that earns her big points with me.]

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 8:36 pm john

        I am not gonna judge YOU,sister! I feel bad for you,I hope things get better and you find happiness–I really do! Advice? Unfortunately I am fresh out at the moment! (PS:I am a mere beta,just come here to gawk at the alphas!)

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 11:00 pm john d

        Let’s put some reality on this.

        Husband goes out to country club. Geisha nags him for going out again. Husband comes back, instead of greeting him nicely, she asks, “where were you, how come you’re late, you never go out with me, you don’t love me, blah blah blah”.

        I guarantee you weren’t nearly as nice as you say you were. You most likely thought being “nice” was the absence of hateful comments towards him. When in reality, being nice to a significant other is treating them in a supportive way.

        Guys, read this.

        Yes, we had income. We both had good jobs and made good money for our area. When you do make good money and you don’t understand why you can’t save any and you see the bill from the country club and you realize all those beer cans littering the entire garage are not just because he hasn’t picked up in a while but because he’s consuming large quantities of alcohol every day, you realize your money is being drunk away. And it become chrystal clear when he uses a golf club to smash someone’s face that you weren’t imagining anger issues.

        Add to that you stuck beside him through a cancer that was most likely linked to the drinking, saw side effects occurr because he still drank on the medication he wasn’t supposed to, and still, despite a life-threatening disease (that I financially supported him through) would not give up drinking or even admit he had a problem, I decided I could no longer live in that climate. I tried to make it to the fifth year after his diagnosis, but I only made it four.

        Notice what she doesn’t say. She doesn’t say, I comforted him during his cancer. She doesn’t say, I was scared to lose my husband. She doesn’t say, I was miserable knowing he could die.

        Her entire post revolves around money and blaming him. It’s so much easier to look better and correct when the blame lies with anyone but herself.

        The truth is obvious to anyone looking at your post Geisha. You are the exact example of an unhappy woman, which is a woman who rejects her nurturing role and instead opts for the male role.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 7:40 am GeishaKate

        I assumed it would be obvious to the reader I was devastated by the diagnosis as that is the only normal reaction a person could have. I try not to think about all the horrible details anymore: seeing him so sick and in pain and being helpless to do much. It was traumatizing. I don’t expect anyone to understand. Its kind of hard to distill ten years into a few paragraphs. I could generate a long list of my own faults. I’m not saying I know everything/did everything right. Its often hard to be perfect on your first try. Most people in my real life don’t know my true story and sometimes I want it to be known, and so it comes out in unusual places like here. Which brings me back to asking, does anyone know how to get in touch with King A?

        lol, john, thanks

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 11:40 am carolyn

        methinks king a gave up commenting for lent.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 11:48 am DiamondEyes

        Not only that but she clearly had no interest in *KNOWING* her husband, or having any compassion or intimacy at all. This is evidenced by her description of having no idea that “all those beer cans in the garage were not due to him not having cleaned up but from him drinking a lot every day”.

        Just think about that statement.

        She is so far removed from her husband, the man she is supposed to have an intimate and supporting bond with, that she doesn’t even know whether he’s drinking a 12 pack a day or not, until she sees the cans. She also is clearly an awful homemaker, which puts a dent in her claims of femininity. You let tons of beer cans pile up in your garage without cleaning them up or noticing how they got there? Where the hell were you all day and night anyway? Out working your oh-so important job (that you couldn’t wait to abandon)?

        The verdict stands: Negligent Wife, Irresponsible Decision-Maker, and Denier of Blame.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 12:59 pm GeishaKate

        I think its pretty common knowledge the garage is a man’s domain. It was full of his stuff, so I never really went in there. But it is true we were out of touch. Definitely. He also did most of his drinking away from me.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 11:16 pm Emma the Emo

        DiamondEyes sounds like a feminist – “He was a negligent husband anyway, so disinterested that he didn’t notice expensive bills piling up in her room, where the hell was he anyway, at his oh so important job?”

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 11:48 am Orion

        I’d have to say that going back to a previous point, you need to have a clear idea of what your goals are in the relationship. I and my wife were clear on the idea of her being a stay at home mom when we have children before we married. I have also been talking her around to the idea of home schooling (the public schools are of little value to those with above average intelligence, and the environment in them is only trending more toward “Lord of the Flies”).

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 12:55 pm GeishaKate

        You’re right. Its really important to have a clear idea of what your goals are in a relationship. It actually wasn’t something I put much thought into as a nineteen year old. I pretty much figured if two people loved each other, it would work out. I admit, for the most part, I still think this way, although I have become a bit more realistic. A bit 🙂

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 5:00 am the realist

        why should a man support you? did you get your degree for nothing or just to fuck around in college?

        A woman is worth supporting as a stay at home if she dedicates herself at less than 20 years age, as a virgin, to an older established guy. Otherwise worky work.

        no women are really superior to a man,only through another man. If you can get a superior man, then you are superior to him, otherwise you just have an unjustifiably inflated sense of self worth, part of what is making women unhappy. A sensible man is never threatened by a womans success, he is better than her at birth, more the success of other men that she can have. Because if she can have them, and more to the point, if she does, then she is better….

        Then again if he doesn’t believe other men to be better and goes on to get younger hotter women,then actually he is the better man. Because he values himself higher and has a better thing. Men are defined by what they expect,how proud they are of themselves and how they value themselves. You could marry a millionaire, 6ft 4, model good looks, but if your ex ends up with a hotter, younger,more submissive woman that looks up to him. He IS the better man, because a better man than he, would know he’s not your man at all, and have a better woman. A man cannot simply have high value to be good, to really be good, he has to KNOW that he is good, and act accordingly.

        A woman shouldn’t be proud of herself. She should be proud of a good, strong,proud man. And proud of herself for being proud of him.
        The sexual market place can be a strategic chess match when it comes to working out whos the most proud, and who to be proud of.

        Before you look down on a man, or decide not to be proud of him, A woman better be REAL sure she knows whats better than him, and that she can get it. Otherwise shes not better than him at all.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 1:07 pm GeishaKate

        Its very hard to discuss these issues without getting into debates about semantics, so I often put words in quotations to show I am using them loosely.

        I did not have any lofty career goals and ended up getting a masters in order to put my bachelors to some good use. When asked what career I wanted, I remember saying that I wanted to do something where I would be helping people.

        “if she dedicates herself at less than 20 years age, as a virgin, to an older established guy” Did that. Established in the sense he had a job, lived on his own, etc. I’m just using my own life to illustrate that sometimes you can try to follow all the guidelines and it doesn’t work out.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 10:53 pm john d

        and this right here folks is the denigration of modern college educated women.

        Going through the motions of attending school because that’s what she’s supposed to do. Statements like this reinforce my confidence in the workplace as an educated male. Women just don’t have that killer instinct to reach the top. They burn out much quicker then man and subject themselves to mediocrity. Me? I’m aiming high

        I’m in my entry-level first job after college at a $60k salary right now and I’m hopin to hit $100k in the next 7 years

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      • on March 3, 2012 at 7:56 am GeishaKate

        That’s awesome, john d! Congrats!

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      • on March 6, 2012 at 10:52 am Lele

        “Find a man who isn’t threatened (very hard to find)”

        Not true. You are projecting: success matters more to women. For women, success is a goal in itself; for many men, success mostly is a mean to get more access to women, possibly to start a family. Now that I’ve discovered Game, I don’t care anymore about climbing the ladder. OTOH, men are bothered by balls-busting women. Women who feel they are successful feel more entitled, and increasing balls-busting follows, but they never realize that, and keep thinking that what the men they are dating are threatened by their success, instead of bothered by their balls-busting attitude.

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    • on March 2, 2012 at 1:19 pm Tim

      We’ve been hearing that college loans is another bubble ready to burst. So, then, most of the holders of student debt are women? If so, somebody will probably say that the student loan market is unfairly stacked against women and will offer them a bailout (with money coming from where?). And what kind of degrees are those women getting? Degrees in women’s studies (which can only be worth anything if the “accomplished” professor gets paid to “teach”` the same crap to younger women)? To quote Carolyn, “and so they went off to their not very lucrative jobs in the city bureaucracy since those were greatly to be preferred.” How are those “not very lucrative jobs in the city bureaucracy” paid for? You guessed it: Fiat money. And I see such jobs proliferating. “Independent” women, thanks to fiat money.

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  21. on March 1, 2012 at 2:40 pm Kay

    Going back to a recent post – women need and very much want masters, and there are so few men that know how to step up and fulfill that role. So we settle for men that make us moderately happy, knowing that we will never reach the pinnacle of womanhood through total submission.

    Most women just recognize this unhappiness as an aching void, and not really understanding why, when they should be happy because they have everything, they still feel like they are missing something intangible.

    So yes, my little piece here pretty must just restates that women want alphas, but I’m focusing a bit more specifically on mastery here.

    It is not looking good in terms of us women finding our masters. It seems like mastery is something that should be passed on from father to son, and fathers are certainly not doing their job. I don’t know how many men without the fatherly example will come around to it on their own. If there is no hope for fathers, I can only hope that more men will stumble upon this blog.

    [heartiste: the great unspoken truth is that modern women have unintentionally priced out the men who would be their masters.]

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 2:48 pm Cranberry

      The idea of a “master” has been on my mind for days since reading that post. I would say my husband definitely fills that role, but not because he is bossy or controlling. Rather, it is for reasons A.B. Dada mentions: he is the master of himself, and is confident in his decisions and the reasoning for them. I cannot and will not argue with him, because what he says is right and for good reason. He is not infallible, but his decisions have never led us astray, financially or otherwise. I adore him for this and so many other reasons. In short, he makes me want to be a better woman, the best woman I can be, so I can stay in step with him morally and physically. What a precious gift.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 3:04 pm Kay

        While every man should read all of this blog’s postings regarding mastery and domination, I have a feeling too many would misinterpret mastery in the sense you have hinted at – as meaning to be bossy, controlling, or just plain mean. There’s a huge difference between being masterful and being just plain awful.

        [heartiste: a woman has to tacitly assent to being controlled before a man can control her. usually this assent is in the form of undying love that compels her to please him whenever and wherever.]

        If you have to try to explain the difference to a man, then that man probably doesn’t stand a chance at being your proper master.

        You are lucky that your husband fulfills you in that way. We can not all be so lucky.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 3:12 pm Cranberry

        I had direct experience to compare a man’s master of himself to him trying to be the master of me.

        The guy I dated for 6 years prior to meeting the Husband was not a master of himself, but he was controlling of me. I didn’t know at the time that what I wanted was someone in control that I could follow, not someone who directed my every step.

        Maybe it’s illusion, by my husband does not make me feel controlled or commanded. He is rational and passionate and I am caught up in it. He doesn’t need to use force because his presence is force enough. I can’t explain it in any way that makes sense. His control comes from someplace natural and easy; the other guy’s sense of control was external and artificial, and always based on some social trend of what was needed to stay commercially competitive, rather than loyal to a core set of principles.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 3:43 pm Samuel

        That’s where its at, cranberry. A man who has mastered himself, and possesses enough greatness to show love and mercy as well as traits of a King, is going to have all the success he wants in relating to women.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 7:30 pm carolyn

        yes, there’s a difference between a guy who quietly dominates, i.e. that’s the program always running in the background, and one who insists on micromanaging every goddamn little thing.

        the one is strong, the other insecure and shows it via control freakery.

        good thing he and i are a good match aside from being a couple of bookish nerds. ahaha ha. i compensate for his lack of mechanical skills and he my lack of any sense regarding money. (anything beyond groceries he takes care of). i think it’s crucial that i respect him. he’s a smart guy who makes me laugh, whose faults are tolerable and easily compensated for by me.

        but what if i was hooked up with an absolute *shlub*? who made me shudder if he walked in the room? who embarrassed me whenever he opened his mouth because he’s an idiot? i know women who are married to men like that and i can’t fathom how that works. different strokes for different folks i guess.

        or are they just settling? some of the topics covered here on ch rarely got my attention before i started reading this blog. for instance, the existence of cuckoldry where the mom outsources the genes for her kids. i always regarded such women as morally abhorrent. and yet…never having been put in their situation should i judge so severely? they find themselves with nothing going for them except perhaps cunning, married to the aforementioned shlub, their male equal. do they do the disservice to their own flesh and blood by allowing the husband to father them? or do they look out for a man who’ll give those kids a head start through his better genes.

        I know a woman who did just that, and up until recently i just assumed she was a skank. she chose one of my in-laws for dad material instead of her husband who, believe me, would inspire shuddering revulsion in the lowliest of women. she broke up my relative’s marriage when she sued for child support, which came as a surprise to both my relative and her husband. now, 17 years later, it looks as if the ‘skank’s’ low cunning served her well. the twins (yes,twins) are okay, having gotten their mom’s smartz and their dad’s looks.

        yes, immoral for her treatment of her husband, but a win for the health of the species. sometimes you have to break a few eggs to make an omelet.

        ok, enough from me.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 7:56 pm Anon

        However you put it, it’s still a despicable act. She shouldn’t marry him in the first place.
        Women like that are scum. And the poor guy should live and die alone, in his stinky appartment, rather than spending his hard-earned money on someone else’s spawn.
        Yes, it’s good for the species, but do not even try to make it excusable.

        Or wait… Just go ahead and forgive her. I forgot it’s war of the sexes out there.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 8:23 pm carolyn

        ‘it’s still a despicable act’

        to be sure it is in her treatment of that man.

        and yet…and yet. reading ch has caused me to question some of my unthinking moral assumptions, or at least see them as not so black and white or so binary. i’ve been …corrupted!!! so there.

        but as ch has told us so many times, what’s good for the individual may not be good for society if _everyone_ did it. the story i’m relating shows both sexes can play at that game, that’s all.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 8:46 pm john

        If the shlub husband murdered the kids,well,abhorrent as that would be,it would be a form of rough justice,and I would surely like to be on the jury. You sound like a turd,making excuses fore this bitch. She surely shouldnt get child support!! Her shlub should have legal recourse against her–AND the kids! (That paper route I drove you around for–I want to be paid,muthafukka!!)

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 9:06 pm OzGirlie

        carolyn is right. That’s why I just said before not to be with a guy who doesn’t turn you on. Something to admire, some dominance – he doesn’t have to be a noisy bloke, just be a man who knows what he wants, like my guy.

        You want to get fucked and have kids with the best kind of man, after all.

        I want to look up to him in real life so I can look up to him when he is fucking me hard and feel secure and in my rightful place.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 9:20 pm OzGirlie

        Another thing. I read an open letter on the net yesterday from a guy complaining about the several other guys who had fucked his missus over their marriage. I just thought, your fault for being such a dope. He finishes up by saying that he had been with a married woman himself once. Truth is that guys will try to pinch the other man’s woman. Beware.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 11:47 pm crumpetess

        OzGirlie, I’m totally with you. Don’t ever, EVER settle for a man who doesn’t turn your crank, so to speak. I’d rather be single forever than have that misery.

        Also…your advice about the clothes/lingerie is SPOT ON. I’ve been with a glorious alpha (possibly Sigma, but whatev) for a while now. I wear what my man tells me to wear. Whatever. Whenever. End of story. He loves it, and I love it. Why would I care about what anyone else thinks, other than him? I wouldn’t, and don’t. He picks out my clothes, and directs me on which ones to wear for him. It’s fantastic. HUGE turn-on, too, when he says, masterfully, “Go get that red/black/lacy thing and put it on. And put on the strappy/gold/kitten heels, too.” LOVE. IT.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 11:52 am OzGirlie

        Crumpetess

        Sometimes he tells me direct. But I also know what he likes cos of what I see him admire. I want his eyes on me.

        Like I said, he likes my legs. So I wear short things.

        It’s not really pandering, just fun.

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 3:03 pm SC

      Let’s not forget that many women intentionally remove fathers from their families ensuring that masterhood can’t exist in their families or be passed down to their sons.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 3:28 pm Kay

        Agreed. I wasn’t implying that women are blameless. But, I muse that if the man was truly masterful, the woman would not have been compelled to boot him from the family. If he was fulfilling his proper role and she still booted him, she would have to have been truly crazy. Or, I suppose the woman was actually a lesbian.

        [heartiste: women’s compulsion to submissiveness resides on a spectrum, where at one end we have the rihannas and Os of the female sex, and at the other the bulldykes and rageful lawyercunts with higher T levels than most beta males. women as a sex are way more submissive than men, but among women, the intensity to submit varies. there are some women who will resist attempts at mastery by all but the most dominant men. and there are a few women who are just plain weird outliers who can’t stand the thought of a strong man.]

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 4:07 pm Kay

        Thanks for the replies. I somehow stumbled on this blog a few years ago and consider myself lucky for having done so. You’re right – I hope you never win a blog award.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 4:16 pm GeishaKate

        “But, I muse that if the man was truly masterful, the woman would not have been compelled to boot him from the family.”

        EXACTLY.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 4:53 pm Kay

        I guess what Heartiste is saying is that a woman who boots a masterful man from the household was not properly matched in terms of where she lies on the “spectrum.” Initially it may have seemed like a decent match, but the fundamental mismatch became more apparent over time.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 5:53 pm Vagabond

        How many roads must a man walk down before you can call him a man….

        It’s always a man’s fault for not meeting woman’s laundry list of expectations…isn’t it. Clearly woman is blameless and hypergamy does not exist.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 11:54 am DiamondEyes

        Just more of the glaring female blind spot. All these whores on here clucking about their supreme alphas are so delusional. A real alpha would not be faithful to you, would not stay with you for more than a year or two, and if you are over 30, would not be fucking you PERIOD.

        What you “ladies” have are a bunch of beta white knighters but it makes you feel better to call them alphas. After all, the whole point of having a man is to brag to your girlfriends about how much better he is than their man – even if that requires you to lie.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 12:11 pm carolyn

        ‘What you “ladies” have are a bunch of beta white knighters but it makes you feel better to call them alphas’

        i never called mine an alpha. i just said i respect him and that he’s the family head. that’s enough for me and i imagine most women who don’t think in terms of the greek alphabet to pigeonhole human beings. more accurately, he’s my ‘diamond in the rough’.

        as you say, if these men were truly ‘alpha’ they wouldn’t stay with us more than a couple years. who but a delusional women with a short time horizon would want that?

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 1:08 pm flirtyintrovert

        “A real alpha would not be faithful to you, would not stay with you for more than a year or two, and if you are over 30, would not be fucking you PERIOD.”

        You are talking about players. Not all alphas are players.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 5:45 am the realist

        yes but i would muse that if the man was truly masterful, he’d be mastering lots of younger hotter women, all women, certainly not supporting one aging fat women and her children, he’d have bigger things to take care of….

        see the catch-22? A truly masterful man is always too masterful for one aging nagging woman, but this isn’t the issue. The issue is fairness, equality and basic common decency and respect that most women are lacking. As well as dedicationto a common goal, raising a stable family.

        A truly masterful man didn’t marry the bitch in the first place, but interestingly enough a lot of men are just masterful enough to be used for security and provision, and then have half or more of their shit taken…

        why couldn’t the lady decide he wasn’t masterful before there was a home to boot him from, if she’s truly a good woman?

        How can she be a good enough woman to decide that he’s not a good enough man, and that must stand as truth, but she didn’t know it before she spread her legs? was she as wrong now as she was right then, or right now as she was wrong then, or was she right both times, or wrong both times. Is she always a good woman even when behaving in the exact opposite ways?…maybe if divorce laws are biased, and responsibility not enforced, she is a good opportunity maximiser…..

        but in short, women are CUNTS

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 2:16 pm Kay

        You’re a bit incoherent here, but I think I can pick out a few thoughts here and there.

        Mastery does not exclude faithfulness, but does not imply it either. You could plausibly have a husband who is an adequate master. However, such a man would be of such high quality (and rarity) that he would be right to set his standards very high, and would very likely not come across, within his lifetime, a quality woman who would satisfy him in all ways and therefore be worthy of extended attention from him. Therefore, its not a surprise that he does not marry.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 5:04 pm Hung One On You

        I don’t know how the fuck women expect men to be master’s of themselves, when they text ex boyfriends behind your back. When they do seedy and contemptuous shit to see if they can get a man of slightly higher status or means.

        Fuck the bullshit about men being masters. You cannot master someone who doesn’t want to submit and who isn’t content. You can only use and cast aside those that don’t appreciate.

        Give me a break dude. I’ve fucked wives, girlfriends, sisters and friends girlfriends. It wasn’t about them needing a master, it was about them having no respect for their relationship and no appreciation for someone or something that treats them fair and equal. It was bread and butter female hypergamey. And the only thing that honestly stops the bullshit is “the wall” and father time.

        What women want is the unease and anxiety. That is what creates the gina tingle and attraction and that is what gives them something to talk about and do in their boring lives.

        Give them stability and reliability and they will piss it away 100% of the time for something that “could be better.”

        Fly me to the moon on this “master” bullshit.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 5:34 pm Anon

        A+
        It’s fun to be their master while they’re attached. But you better bolt before she does.

        It’s all about timing.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 5:41 pm John Norman Howard

        A lot of fair points here… and besides, listening to Harpies Bizarre gushing above is starting to stink up this place like Oprah’s studio.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 6:26 pm GeishaKate

        Yes, a lot of women do these things; but not all women do them. Submission only comes from respect and trust, in my experience.

        Isn’t there some responsibility from men to choose the right women? If women are being blamed for choosing the wrong men, doesn’t that work in reverse? Its true you have to work to keep our interest, just as we have to work to keep yours.

        One of my favorite quotations: “The very essence of romance is uncertainty” (Oscar Wilde).

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 7:23 pm Matador

        “Its true you have to work to keep our interest, just as we have to work to keep yours. ”

        True, but not entirely. Women are human beings. Men are human doings.
        You simply have to be (in shape), and not be a bitch.
        Men have to prove their value in many ways, all the time.

        Besides, Oscar Wilde’s quote is .geared more towards women. Hamster needs excitement. Men need more certainty and are more comfortable with routine.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 9:13 am passingby

        “Men need more certainty and are more comfortable with routine.”

        Perhaps the stupidest thing I read so far today, but the day is young.

        Exploration, discovery, warfare, business risk, etc., etc. If you look at humanity’s accounts of the group that is seeking uncertainty and eschewing routine, you will find 99.9999% of those at the spear point to be XY not XX.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 12:29 pm John Norman Howard

        Wilde also said “The one charm of marriage is that it makes a life of deception absolutely mandatory”… or some such fag witticism.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 12:54 pm Matador

        Passingby,

        You found it stupid because you skipped the context. I meant routine in a couple’s life. ie, men are not comfortable with the uncertainty about their women straying. They are not comfortable with jealousy games etc…
        In oscar wilde’s quote, there is the word “romance”.

        But please carry on. I’m not bothered by stupid replies.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 7:37 pm Anonymous

        amen, brother

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 1:11 pm Anglo in Abitibi

        Actually I think passingby and Matador are both partially right. Men want routine and certainty at home so that they can face the uncertainty of the wild world knowing that there is a place for them to take a break from it all when the going gets to be too much.

        I doubt Columbus would consider his life to be comfortable if dealing with his wife was as difficult as crossing the Atlantic.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 9:43 am Kay

        Sounds like you are mixing with the exact kind of unappreciative woman who will never want a master – cheating wives, cheating girlfriends, ex-bf texters. Obviously you’re right to cast them aside. A quality woman would indeed be willing to submit to her lover.

        While unease and anxiety may be needed for the beginnning of a relationship, to administer large doses for the entirety of the relationship is just plain exhausting for the woman. Unease should never completely be eliminated, just tempered to match the length of the relationship and the trust involved.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 11:59 am DiamondEyes

        Exactly, Hung. A woman has to want to be lead or else it’s far more headache than it’s worth. I was with a woman where the more alpha I was with her, the more of a domineering cunt she tried to become. If it was a shit test, then the only alpha who could’ve passed would be Genghis Fucking Khan. I guess she was looking for a guy so alpha that he would just beat the shit out of her when she talked trash. I mean seriously, how do you “master” an arrogant, entitled, spoiled cunt who has been told by society that being submissive to men is the greatest sin she could commit??

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 1:22 pm OzGirlie

        Most of us are not like that, DiamondEyes. Most of us will get in line.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 3:26 pm Anon

        “I mean seriously, how do you “master” an arrogant, entitled, spoiled cunt”

        You don’t, you just leave when you’re tired of fucking her.
        The biggest question is why do men try and enter into LTRs with women like that.
        There are whores and housewives. You clearly tried to wife up a whore. Don’t try again.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 5:34 pm Glengarry

        Well, maybe he got sick or overworked or something. Bye bye, master.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 7:47 pm OzGirlie

        This Aussie Miss is pretty typical. I like dominant men. They make me moist so I want to please them in any way I can. I found a pretty good bloke and he keeps me in line pretty well. You just have to choose well. Girls, don’t waste your time on a guy who really doesn’t appeal to you.

        And find out what he likes to see you in, and wear that kind of stuff. Screw Dolly and the other magazines. Ask HIM what he likes on girls, really likes a lot.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 8:48 pm john

        Who’s masterful all the fuckin’ time? Sometimes you want to get a cold beer and veg out in front of the TV,watching 2 1/2 Men. . With a go-to-sleep blow job. Zat too much to ask?

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 9:26 am Kay

        Nothing about being a master excludes you from doing the above.

        If you have to try very hard to be masterful and it upsets you, you probably shouldn’t bother. You would be being someone you’re not, and your woman would see right through you.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 2:35 pm OzGirlie

        That is why real masters are so hot. The masterful attitude cannot be faked. You can learn it over time, I am sure. My bf has become much more cocky and sure of himself. Of course, I have been taking good care of him in all departments and that makes a man pretty confident.

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 7:44 pm DiamondEyes

      you and your ilk destroyed traditional fatherhood. cry away, now that it’s gone, but don’t blame men.

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  22. on March 1, 2012 at 2:44 pm Cranberry

    And I just wrote about how I didn’t find happiness or true utility until I became a wife and mother who stays home to raise the kids and tend the hearth.

    I would add to the idea that women have too many expectations this paradox: women do not know what they want. I didn’t, but I’m recovering.

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 2:57 pm GeishaKate

      You are a lucky woman! 🙂 In my opinion, the greatest gift a man can give a woman is to give her the opportunity to truly be a mother.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 3:44 pm Maya

        +1

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 3:51 pm Kay

      Usually what women want is too disturbing for them to think about or talk about in an honest fashion. They could know, but they are choosing not to know. I’ve had one female friend in my lifetime that I could speak with honestly about true desires. Speaking openly does not earn one many female friends!

      Also, you should feel lucky that you find fulfillment as a mother and hearth tender. I would like to be a happy mother someday (don’t have any kids yet), but I think would have made a much happier mother in another century. There are already enough people reproducing on this planet. I like there to be some purpose to my actions.

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 7:58 pm carolyn

      yup. not for me the rat race trying to get ahead on the job, only to be thrown away like an old shoe by one’s corporate overlords years before SS kicks in. the guys’ lot is bad and getting worse. how can that scale besides the pleasure of watching your kids grow?

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  23. on March 1, 2012 at 2:51 pm SC

    ” For example, George A. Akerlof, Janet L. Yellen, and Michael L. Katz (1996) argue that sexual freedom offered by the birth control pill may have benefited men by increasing the pressure on women to have sex outside of marriage and reducing their bargaining power over a shotgun marriage in the face of an unwanted pregnancy”

    That’s copied from the PDF. So is the argument that birth control became oppressive instead of promoting freedom the way feminists make it out to be? The pill “pressured” women into having sex outside of marriage? Wow…

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 3:43 pm Maya

      When the pill was discovered feminists were against it for similar reasons. They believed that it will degrade women to sex toys or something like that.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 5:00 pm itsme

        it’s a good thing that never transpired.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 11:08 am Wrecked 'Em

        +1

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 4:59 pm Emma the Emo

      Wow, I heard of that too. That men invented the pill because they thought it would lead to lots of free sex, and it was actually women who supressed women’s sexuality under patriarchy (to get more out of it…).

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 12:34 pm John Norman Howard

        And then what happened… after all these evil men started jamming birth control pills down women’s throats?

        Is that why all the erstwhile demure, virginal, well-bred gals are such trollops today?

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 11:28 pm Emma the Emo

        Geez, I didn’t say it was evil. If this is true, then it was more of a problem of unrealistic expectations. Men thinking it would lead to free sex (it lead to that.. only for some), and women fooled by feminism, thinking it was gonna make them equal to men or something.

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 8:29 pm say what

      Not enough of the right people producing.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 2:41 pm Pablo

        Signed,
        Hitler

        [heartiste:
        re-signed,
        godwin]

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  24. on March 1, 2012 at 2:57 pm fascistbrah

    More choice means less happiness.

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 3:19 pm Holden Caulfield

      At least according to Barry Schwartz . . .

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  25. on March 1, 2012 at 3:00 pm Renee

    I remember reading something on a site about this study.

    It said in actuality, it wasn’t that more women are becoming unhappy, but it’s that in the past most women considered themselves “very happy”, and now more women say that they’re just “happy”. Not sure if you can call that becoming unhappy.

    Then again, I found this particular study a few years ago and unfortunately I have yet to find it again….

    Another thing I found was an article that also dealt with the “Paradox” study:

    http://articles.latimes.com/2009/oct/14/opinion/oe-ehrenreich14

    Take what you will from it….Not sure how I feel about it yet myself.

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  26. on March 1, 2012 at 3:18 pm Southern Man

    Easily explained by noting that what women say they want, what women think they want, and what women actually need can be expressed as a Venn diagram with three non-overlapping circles.

    The value of this blog (and others like it) is that it teaches men to ignore what women say and learn how to give them what they really need.

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  27. on March 1, 2012 at 3:20 pm Trimegistus

    Fifty years ago women who were happy said they were happy.

    Now women don’t dare say they’re happy because they’ve been told all their lives they are oppressed, victimized, and subjugated. They’re supposed to be unhappy, so that’s what they say.

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    • on March 2, 2012 at 4:36 am Theophilus

      That makes a lot of sense. Women (and most men) will say what they think is expected of them.

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  28. on March 1, 2012 at 3:24 pm Fumblebuck

    The reason why women were so damned happy in the 50s was because of the explosion of household appliances that made the domestic tasks easier. Women prior to the 40s had a backbreaking life doing laundry by hand, washing dishes by hand, sweeping and beating the carpets, etc. On top of that, television was relatively new and the programming was actually crisp and funny.

    Anybody who was miserable in the 50s wanted to be miserable.

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 4:10 pm Anon

      Yes, in the 50s, those Mississippi Negroes swinging by their necks from trees wanted to be miserable.

      But really, the 50s were the golden age of for beta males.

      Look at old NASA control room footage. Those NASA engineers in short-sleeved white shirts, ties, buzz cuts and glasses were heroes to America. I bet at least 90% of them had a thin, pretty, adoring wife at home who serviced them, raised their kids, and didn’t fuck around like today’s cows.

      http://abcnews.go.com/US/dunwoody-day-care-killing-trial-begins-georgia-engineer/story?id=15760051

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 5:37 pm Anonymous

        You saw hubby’s face? Pure obvious beta.

        And betas shall have no mercy.

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 5:46 pm John Norman Howard

        Yes, in the 50s, those Mississippi Negroes swinging by their necks from trees wanted to be miserable.

        Who cares?

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 6:10 pm Laconophile

        Jew-on-Jew crime? What is the world coming to?

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      • on March 1, 2012 at 10:26 pm Thomas

        Anon,
        Wow—I think your analysis is 180 degrees out. I believe these guys had more “Alpha” in their little finger then even the best PUA today. Consider, the man sitting in that room had most likely served in WW2: landing at Normandy or Anzio, sailing across the freezing cold waters of the Atlantic in a convoy, or flying dozens of bombing raids over Germany and Japan. These guys managed to beat the Axis powers in four years (note: our generation has been chasing a bunch of rag-ass renegades around the Middle East for 10 years without result). Then they return home, get accepted into a college, major in a technical discipline, and then work their way into a room where they have men’s lives and a nation’s pride riding in the balance. These were tough, sharp guys who didn’t shrink from a challenge, or sit around gazing at their belly button and wondering if their actions that day were going to be perceived as “masculine”, etc. Does that sound “beta” to you? I think you are making a big error in judgement based on appearances…. Please remember what Momma said about judging a book by it’s cover. In this case, she was right.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 9:17 am passingby

        Damn. Well put.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 10:48 am Mr.magNIFicent1 is here

        You can keep that “greatest generation” myth. These are men who bought in to the most remedial kind of propaganda, and left home to slaughter their kin at the prompting of people who hated (and hate) them and their descendents. Tough, maybe, but not sharp. Cannon fodder. In other words, goy.

        I saw “saving private ryan” again not long ago. It should be re-titled “we’ll let you keep one”.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 12:26 pm John Norman Howard

        You hit the nail on the head… and made an impression in the wood.

        “Greatest Generation”, my ass… they went out and blindly killed their racial kinsmen, thanks to little more than industrial superiority and air power… and now, a mere two generations later, their own grandchildren can’t walk the streets in their very own towns without being accosted by mud people… and they themselves don’t even have the courage to call a spade a spade, literally.

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  29. on March 1, 2012 at 3:42 pm Anonymous

    A video from Xtranormal on just such…

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  30. on March 1, 2012 at 3:47 pm Ollie

    “Hope this hurts the right people!”

    It will in due time. Right now, they are cushioned in a soft, forgiving ball of you-go-girl propaganda and beta-orbiter adoration. One day, though, that fluffy layer of protection will fail, and their minds will be exposed to the harsh reality of what they have done with their lives.

    They will cry, and they will scream, and it will fall on deaf ears. The free ride will be over.

    “Give me a reason to help you now, ma’am. That’s right. Let me be clear here: What’s in it for me?”

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  31. on March 1, 2012 at 3:59 pm Hung One On You

    Never thought i’d see it, but it turns out the right wing Christians have seen the Heartsie Light! Un-freaking-believable. Check out this article on “the cost of delaying marriage” published by the ubber conservative “Focus on the Family.” It denouces feminism as a product of ignorance and thrashes women for pissing away their most “attractive” years fucking alphas. When i read the full article i couldn’t stop laughing and thinking about what this blog has been saying for four years now.

    My god….the lord really does save. Check out this excerpt. Un-god-damn-believable considering the source. e.

    “The sensible, decent, not-bad-looking men a woman rejected at 24 because she wasn’t ready to settle down all seem to have gotten off at other stations.”

    http://www.boundless.org/2005/articles/a0001135.cfm

    “And this is the revelation that greets the woman who has made almost a religion out of her personal autonomy. She finds out, on the cusp of 30, that independence is not all it’s cracked up to be. “Seen from the outside, my life is the model of modern female independence,” wrote Katie Roiphe in a 1997 article for Esquire entitled “The Independent Woman (and Other Lies).” “I live alone, pay my own bills, and fix my stereo when it breaks down. But it sometimes seems like my independence is in part an elaborately constructed façade that hides a more traditional feminine desire to be protected and provided for: I admitted this once to my mother, an ardent 70s feminist … and she was shocked …. I rushed to reassure her that I wouldn’t dream of giving up my career, and it’s true that I wouldn’t.”

    Unfortunately, this is a bit of wisdom that almost always arrives too late. The drawbacks of the independent life, which dawned upon Roiphe in her late 20s, are not so readily apparent to a woman in her early 20s. And how can they be? When a woman is young and reasonably attractive, men will pass through her life with the regularity of subway trains; even when the platform is empty, she’ll expect another to be coming along soon. No woman in her right mind would want to commit herself to marriage so early. Time stretches luxuriously out before her. Her body is still silent on the question of children. She’ll be aware, too, of the risk of divorce today, and may tell herself how important it is to be exposed to a wide variety of men before deciding upon just one. When dating a man, she’ll be constantly alert to the possibilities of others. Even if she falls in love with someone, she may ultimately put him off because she feels just “too young” for anything “serious.” Mentally, she has postponed all these critical questions to some arbitrary, older age.

    But if a woman remains single until her age creeps up past 30, she may find herself tapping at her watch and staring down the now mysteriously empty tunnel, wondering if there hasn’t been a derailment or accident somewhere along the line. When a train does finally pull in, it is filled with misfits and crazy men — like a New York City subway car after hours; immature, elusive Peter Pans who won’t commit themselves to a second cup of coffee, let along a second date; neurotic bachelors with strange habits; sexual predators who hit on every woman they meet; newly divorced men taking pleasure wherever they can; embittered, scorned men who still feel vengeful toward their last girlfriend; men who are too preoccupied with their careers to think about anyone else from one week to the next; men who are simply too weak, or odd, to have attracted any other woman’s interest. The sensible, decent, not-bad-looking men a woman rejected at 24 because she wasn’t ready to settle down all seem to have gotten off at other stations.

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 9:22 pm Crank

      Scrolling to the bottom, it appears to be an excerpt from a book first published in 1999. The excerpt itself was first republished in 2005. Don’t think old can take credit for the thoughts in that one.

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 9:52 pm Libertardian

      Yeah, the (female) author of that article was lambasted for suggesting that a useless paper-pushing corporate gig is anything less than the key to a woman’s self-actualization. As LeBon said, whoever supplies the crowd with lies is their master; whoever tells them the truth is their victim.

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  32. on March 1, 2012 at 4:07 pm Andrew S.

    The bank I use hires mostly attractive women. Not that I have a problem with that, but they are all such angry, unhappy bitches. They make good money, and every year the bank promotes most of these women to a bigger and better paying job. Yet they remain the same miserable, un-smiling, pissy faced women year after year.

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 4:22 pm Harkat

      Do they genuinely do well or do they get some preferential treatment?

      Not saying that this has anything to do with their happiness, just curious about the prevalence of high-T careerist women.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 8:08 am Andrew S.

        For being based out of a small Midwestern town the bank has been very successful. All the power players in the banks past were men, and while women make up the majority of the employees at the bank, it’s men who are still in most of the top positions.

        It will be interesting though to see if it has continued success with women taking it over.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 9:29 am passingby

        “Do they genuinely do well or do they get some preferential treatment?”

        They do well at a job that has been so watered down, any woman could do well at it, if my experience in corporate life is any guide.

        Women were slotted in roles that did not demand the things truly driving business success: dragging revenue in the door, developing the produce or service sold, and pitilessly controlling costs. Rather, women administered non-essential matters like accounting records, marketing “campaigns” (i.e., ad buys) and non-executive personnel matters, which are largely just exercises in counting pick-up sticks and sorting them by color.

        10-15 years into corporate life, you look around and see men hardened by the demands of quarterly revenue quotas, product cycle release deadlines, and budget containment requirements. The female executives at the same level typically have much less frontline operating unit experience, but the same title.

        It is like in the military, where you have an Army major who has commanded units in combat, been wounded, obtained some confirmed kills. At the same rank is a woman major who…oversaw the Army’s dental services administration for Asian-based soldiers. He is a respected, somewhat feared warrior and fighter capable of defending a nation. Men will follow him. She is a glorified clerk, called “Major” by subordinates because they are ordered to.

        In the case of a business executive, a man hardened by running a successful business unit and held to account for results every 90 days can run a successful business. The women can work for the man that has been so hardened, but they cannot run one themselves.

        To cover up the reality of their two situations, we call them both “vice president” (or “Major”), and pretend she is something akin to his equal.

        That is feminism, folks. Pretending the unlike are like.

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      • on March 4, 2012 at 1:27 am Anonymous

        “Hardened” in a butt-kissing, cheesy corporate environment? Well, only relatively speaking. does the comparison hold up in that, if the babes got up off their duffs and applied themselves, there wouldn’t be any difference because it’s just semi-sleasy white collar office work either way.

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  33. on March 1, 2012 at 4:24 pm KM

    ahha we are going to have a field day on this one:

    http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/01/10549926-calif-teacher-resigns-after-leaving-family-for-student

    Directive & Guidance = female happiness. A beta cannot provide that. How else do we explain this — oh my god he’s so old, she’s too innocent –class of thought that has infested western culture since post WWII.

    The real question is at which point will it turn, the tables flip, and you become the minority when you marry, it becomes acceptable if not praise-able for men to marry or LTR down in age. Clearly it has started, but when will it be prevalent in the schools of thought that are now suppressed by feminism and the American education system.

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 5:41 pm itsme

      he’s not alpha. alpha would be if he banged this girl (and some classmates) on the side while his wife knowingly turned a blind eye or even defended his actions with rationalizations only the female mind is capable of generating.

      no…this guy, who is gonna get reamed in divorce court and then dumped by this girl when she realizes his knowledge of malware removal and firmware flashing doesn’t translate well into mastery of the female psyche, is merely youngpussystruck.

      ‘Do we make everyone else happy or do we follow our hearts?

      come on.

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      • on March 4, 2012 at 1:29 am Anonymous

        Yeah, the judge will make him squeal like a pig and she’ll find a younger guy with a harder cock before too long.

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 6:19 pm Laconophile

      The furor over this is so hypocritical. I guess the phrase “two consenting adults” only justifies unnatural arrangements.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 11:06 am KM

        of course of course. Where I implied he was alpha I fail to see..

        Would love to see a rant on this Limbaugh bit, though:
        http://todayonthetrail.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/02/10560998-woman-called-slut-by-limbaugh-is-stunned-outraged

        “What does it say about the college co-ed Susan Fluke (sic) who goes before a congressional committee and essentially says that she must be paid to have sex — what does that make her? It makes her a slut, right? It makes her a prostitute.”

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    • on March 2, 2012 at 1:36 am Elmos

      All of you are wrong. He’s not alpha. Alpha would be if he didn’t get married in the first place, and just kept banging 18 year olds and other assorted young hotties well into his 40s. And we all know it can be done if the man has social skills and keeps his bitches in check.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 11:36 am Anonymous

        This blog has often stated that a man can become alpha long after doing something stupid like getting married. It also has maintained that an alpha can turn into a beta at any time, usually after getting too comfortable in an LTR. Admittedly, sometimes one gets the impression that the blogger believes that being alpha is genetic, but there are just as many posts where he says that, no, it comes and goes and alphatude needs to be consciously learned and maintained.

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    • on March 2, 2012 at 10:21 am Anonymous

      The mother of the 18 year old is obviously very unhappy that she’s being passed over for her daughter by men older than she is (the mother).

      Notice that many of the forums about this demand facebook comments, meaning that 95% of the comments will probably be politically correct and condemn the man for doing an 18 year old.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 10:49 am Anonymous

        This incident threatens every PUA who might actually succeed at getting younger, hotter, tighter instead of just chatting about their “success with women” on some blog.

        This 41 year old got what might be close to an 18 year old 10. She’s at least a solid 9 right now.

        We can’t allow this guy to be arrested. Lord knows the California police are looking very, very hard for a piece of electronic evidence to charge him with.

        Nothing and I mean nothing has been said in any comment on any media platform about how white knighters are condemning the man for doing the 18 year old.

        This may be a function of all commenters having to be facebook commenters.

        Some of the guys here need to create false Facebook profiles with which to comment in the MSM.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 11:52 am itsme

        Some of the guys here need to create false Facebook profiles with which to comment in the MSM.

        nah, this is a waste of time, as you’d be facing feminists, manginas, and white knights who vastly outnumber you on their own territory. an army that charges head-on into an opposing army 100x its size is quickly annihilated.

        gotta be more clever about it. infiltrate and subvert.

        i.e., keep banging younger hotter tighter girls (or feminists) and submit the vids to youporn.

        yeah…

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  34. on March 1, 2012 at 4:28 pm Camelot007

    I have the luxury of knowing hundreds of single women of a wide age range. From early 20s all the way to mid 40s. It’s incredible how most of the maxims we see here can be repeatdely observed. Even by observing their facebook pages, you can see the uncaring flakiness of the early 20s girls, the demanding big egos and checklists of the mid 20s – early 30s career girls and the declining SMV of the late 30s early 40s girls (think pictures of cats and lots of messages stating how chocolate is better than a man etc).

    It is clear that most of these girls are unhappy. It may not be obvious to the naked eye but with the right “lens” and knoweldge, you can decipher and see that deep down, there is a large gaping hole in their lives. An unhappiness that will never be filled by yoga classes, girl’s night outs and a thousand pump and dumps, regardless of how much the feminists have brainwashed everyone to believe that women and men are affected the same way from having lots of sexual partners…

    I sometimes feel bad for the oldest ones. Their options seem few and they probably know that they wasted their lives and pushed away men that are a hundred times better than what’s available for them today.  They try to boost themselves up with worthless activities and accomplishments which I know full well does nothing for them but kill time. Victims of the very feminist beliefs that were supposed to save them.

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    • on March 2, 2012 at 11:19 am Wrecked 'Em

      There is now a Zombie Horde of women in their mid-30s who “did everything they were supposed to do” … graduated from a good college, got a job in some way that “contributes” to society, didn’t “settle” … who wander the earth wondering why they can’t find Mr. Right when the girls back in High School “who acted like Chrissy from Three’s Company” are happily married with several kids and have everything that Ms. Zombie craves.

      Unhappiness is looking out the window at the neighbor’s kids rollicking play when you’ve had one or two abortions because children would have cramped your career plans.

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      • on March 4, 2012 at 1:31 am Anonymous

        “Unhappiness is looking out the window at the neighbor’s kids rollicking play when you’ve had one or two abortions because children would have cramped your career plans.”

        When they called it “having it all,” they weren’t kidding… good and bad.

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  35. on March 1, 2012 at 4:31 pm greenlander

    “…getting pumped and dumped until their wombs crust over like a sun-baked lake bed.”

    That made me laugh out loud so hard that my cube neighbors were asking me what was so funny.

    How in the world do you think up this stuff?

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  36. on March 1, 2012 at 4:42 pm chi-town

    Men are the wandering sex. Women used to have close social groups including friends and family. Its uprooted when they leave for college and uprooted in pursuit of careers. Every woman I have known has needed a social support. How can moving a thousand miles away make them happy?

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  37. on March 1, 2012 at 4:46 pm Basil Ransom

    Haven’t read all the comments, but I’m surprised you didn’t mention obesity. You recently had a link in your Twitter feed about a study finding women fatter than their husbands are less happy than women skinnier than their husbands. It’s fair to say a lot more women are in the first boat than decades before.

    We all know that fatties often have major mental issues…

    [heartiste: good point. obesity might be the number one reason for women’s declining happiness. well, white women’s anyhow.]

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    • on March 2, 2012 at 8:47 am Pm Siesta

      Obesity is dead on… it’s become epidemic, yet with a proven cure in the form of low-carb and paleo diets. But women are usually more stubborn than men at changing their diets or recognizing what their food does to them. I do love the girls with big American thighs… but the wheat-fed and corn-fed broads get carried away with the cornsyrupy processed junk and comfort food. That stuff fattens their bodies and constantly disrupts their moods.

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  38. on March 1, 2012 at 5:10 pm n/a

    The word “barren” should come back into common usage.

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  39. on March 1, 2012 at 5:18 pm tspark156

    Its actually very simple, it is pointless telling the modern woman what should make her happy, it is vital to demonstrate what will make her happy.

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  40. on March 1, 2012 at 5:28 pm Thos.

    Obesity is NOT the problem. It is the unrealistic expectations of magazines to expect that people look the way they did before the food pyramid changed in the 70s and told everyone to eat wheat (and suddenly everyone got fat) and the .00000000000000000000000001 per cent of the population that are anorexic that pose the largest existential threat.

    Hahahaha. Sorry, I tried saying that with a straight face.

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  41. on March 1, 2012 at 5:51 pm Doc

    I would argue that the problem is a more fundamental one, going to how men and women evolved and how today’s culture teaches women, from the time they are children, to be something that they not only do not want, but biologically goes against what they need. The pair-bond is a fundamental one, and is based on a very simple biological difference between men and women. Men are stronger, faster, meaner, and more adept at hunting, killing, hauling, building, etc. Women are smaller, softer, gentler with increased attention to detail, so they are better for such things as finding specific types of berries, gathering, and taking care of children. Their bodies evolved for that – men’s evolved to be able to do everything else.

    Men have drive ambition, a need to move – women want to nest, and have a man take care of them but contribute in their way to the home. In the early part of the 20th century and before that, the division of labor was based on this, and women were happy – except for those few that were either too ugly, too fat, or otherwise unattractive so no man wanted them. (The feminists.)

    Today, women still want what they have always wanted, but it is harder and harder to find. Very few men can afford to have a wife stay home and raise children. Yet that is what women have always wanted and still want. The younger ones seem to want it more than others who were indoctrinated into what feminists wanted them to believe. So you have women who want one thing, being told that’s bad, they shouldn’t want that – they shouldn’t want a man who is strong, financially secure, and who will take care of them – yet that is what they find attractive, and crave. So they are more and more unhappy as they see they cannot have what they want on a fundamental level.

    I’m old enough to not care about what is politically correct. The biggest reason women are unhappy is most will not admit what they want, even to themselves, so they make everyone around them unhappy because they are unhappy. The few who do, tend to be in relationships with a strong male who is the head (dominant) so she can be submissive and let him worry about things, and they are happy. Of course, the older generation screwed that up by teaching men to *not* be what women want, and instead to try to be more like women, while women were taught to be more like men. The men who say – “Bullsh*t!” and do what they want, have their pick of women who still want to have sex with the strong dominant male (every woman wants this no matter what BS they may spout), and the men who don’t cast off what they are taught spend their days lamenting how women don’t know what they want – rather than looking at the world and seeing what every woman is telling them… Heck, they are screaming it in their actions – although never in their words…

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 7:24 pm Camelot007

      Very well said Doc. I agree 100%

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    • on March 6, 2012 at 12:05 pm Lele

      “Very few men can afford to have a wife stay home and raise children.”

      Even if they can afford it, why would they want it? Life is not like it was decades ago. Today, being an housewife and a mother requires way less work. Better let them spend some time earning a living. What’s the best way to raise your children? If you are smart, you’ll understand that hiring a qualified children tutor beats a stay-at-home mum every day. That, and a stay-at-home mother will become dependent on her children, thus hampering their development.

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  42. on March 1, 2012 at 6:05 pm YB

    Haven’t read the comments as yet, here are some of my thoughts as of a couple months ago. Triggered by reading this (and other) blogs, definitely some words from those blogs added into there – any shallowness is mine:
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    Imagining themselves as the object of attention and lust is deeply erotic to women and the higher status the man the more erotic validation it provides. When society changes to raise women’s status in comparison with the men around them, their opportunity to fulfill their erotic needs declines. Their happiness decreases.

    A higher-status man’s attention is directly related to a given female’s desirability. If he is the kind of man who can have any female he wants, then the woman he chooses must be intensely desired by a great many men. His attention fuels narcissistic fantasies, and therefore triggers erotic feelings in the woman who receives it. (Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky.)

    Couple this with Sperm Wars: high status = high genetic value = high desirability = high chance of infidelity or desertion = high number of “ordinary” men bringing up children not their own or being deserted yet still having to pay as though they were still married.

    Couple this with My Secret Garden (and Forbidden Flowers): are women having to fantasize more with intercourse? Their “ordinary” husband is of such similar (or lower) status that they cannot feel sufficiently erotic during sex.

    Men become cuckoo’s, trying to impregnate other men’s women.

    Men become rationally less inclined to marry, because divorce-theft is becoming common.

    Women become less happy because they “can’t find any good men” or “men aren’t willing to commit” or they have to share the few high-status men that they do find.

    Women are no longer objects of lust and passion. They are now competitors, rivals and colleagues. Their erotic value has diminished – this makes them unhappy and they do not know why. Their chances to “feel like a woman” have dropped. Their hypergamous and erotic needs are left unfulfilled by their “equal” husbands and boyfriends.
    ———————————-
    So basically in my view it comes down to too many perks for women. They can pick up a degree easy, they can pick up a man easy, and after they’ve ridden 100+ men they can easily find a clueless schlub to keep them in the manner to which they want to become accustomed. Plus having a “little bit on the side” which their clueless schlub will probably forgive them for – if he ever finds out about it.

    This makes their heads swell to the point where they’re too good for the average guy, thus cannot find “the one” to fulfill them. They’re spoiled brats, and I for one cannot be arsed with a spoiled brat.

    Spare the rod and spoil the bitch.

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 7:27 pm Camelot007

      Very well written sir.

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  43. on March 1, 2012 at 6:18 pm Thomas

    The reason women are so unhappy is because they have choice. Give a woman choice, and she will demand the world, and even then, she won’t be satisfied. The decline began when women were given the vote.

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 9:32 pm john

      The cynical bagel-eating Obama re-election team would seem to be making the case for getting rid of womens suffrage. The idea of making access to “contraception” and abortion an issue,when its not,to influence the dummies to vote for Obama,even tho he is an utter failure,would suggest they think women are stupoid and easy to manipulate.

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  44. on March 1, 2012 at 6:27 pm Anon

    I think it can all be explained (albeit indirectly) here:

    http://www.psy.fsu.edu/~baumeistertice/goodaboutmen.htm

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    • on March 3, 2012 at 1:03 am TD2012

      Anon– That’s a really good paper that everybody here should read:

      “A few lucky men are at the top of society and enjoy the culture’s best rewards. Others, less fortunate, have their lives chewed up by it. ”

      “What seems to have worked best for cultures is to play off the men against each other, competing for respect and other rewards that end up distributed very unequally. Men have to prove themselves by producing things the society values. They have to prevail over rivals and enemies in cultural competitions, which is probably why they aren’t as lovable as women.”

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  45. on March 1, 2012 at 6:34 pm emisch

    This is completely off topic but I thought this should be shared. More men raped in the US than women.

    “For 2008, for example, the government had previously tallied 935 confirmed instances of sexual abuse. After asking around, and performing some calculations, the Justice Department came up with a new number: 216,000. That’s 216,000 victims, not instances. These victims are often assaulted multiple times over the course of the year. The Justice Department now seems to be saying that prison rape accounted for the majority of all rapes committed in the US in 2008, likely making the United States the first country in the history of the world to count more rapes for men than for women.”

    http://nplusonemag.com/raise-the-crime-rate

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  46. on March 1, 2012 at 7:10 pm Anonymous

    Re your women’s history of emotion tweet:

    Steve Sailer gives this book a positive review:

    “I look at an unexpected topic by reviewing historian Susan J. Matt’s thought-provoking book Homesickness. Matt is working in the subfield of “history of emotions,” which was invented by French historians around 1940 and is proving an excellent field for female scholars.”

    http://isteve.blogspot.com/2011/10/homesickness-american-history.html

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  47. on March 1, 2012 at 7:23 pm Victor

    Are you going to address the rebuttal offered your esteemed and indefatigable opponent, Hugo Schwyzer:

    http://jezebel.com/5889669/only-assholes-say-you-wont-sleep-with-them-unless-theyre-assholes

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    • on March 2, 2012 at 1:24 pm AlphaBeta

      “For years, studies have shown that women do rate kindness as a particularly attractive quality in a man.”

      Wow this guy is a professor? What sort of academic institution would grant this guy a doctorate let alone employment? He should know that the vast majority of self-report studies are flawed due to the basic human desire to say what we think we’re supposed to say.

      Game basically says that you shouldn’t listen to what women say they want but emulate the type of men attractive women find attractive. One can’t refute that by pointing to studies that ask what women say they want. That sort of glaring non-sequitur is damn near laughable.

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  48. on March 1, 2012 at 7:26 pm Arturo de Gheaube

    I’m pretty sure that changes in female attitudes of self-fulfillment are heavily concomitant to the africanization of Western Society.

    Here in New Orleans, every friggin’ time you look up from your computer screen you see another mud shark female with a male member of the protected gene-pool polluting race. It is fully affligeant, as they say in the old country.

    Women – white women – fully fail to understand the menace that is their sisters’ athenian role in the anti-racism crusades.

    I did meet one however last night, a solid 7.0, I could barely believe my eyes when she did not pack it up and run when I told her that during the 400 years of the trans-Atlantic slave trade, of some thirteen million blacks imported into the New World, i.e. North and South America, only a tiny fraction – as in fewer than 400,000 – were actually brought into the United States. The vast majority of trans-Atlantic slave trade Africans – some 11 million – wound up in Brazil, which today is home to more blacks than any country outside Africa.

    In the absence of strong patriarchal mores and legislation, the modern white female’s failure to see through the myth of superior black sexual desirability will be another nail in the coffin of Western Civilization.

    Sincerely,

    – Arturo

    crimesofthetimes.com

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 8:43 pm Nicko

      And what’s it with these white girls who do the African booty-shake dance? It’s ugly. It’s the most unfeminine thing I’ve ever seen in my life. And girls think that’s sexy? They have no idea.

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    • on March 2, 2012 at 1:29 am Anon

      superior black sexual desirability my ass.
      Only cuckold fetishists believe that crap.

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  49. on March 1, 2012 at 7:28 pm J-style

    Most. Delusional. Article. Ever:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2108377/Meet-new-breed-women-prime-happy-virgins.html

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 8:07 pm RafterManFMJ

      Had to thank you for the link…could not read more than a few paragraphs as I am not convinced the article isn’t a parody; it is that delusional.

      Looking at the photos of the women profiled, I felt nothing but great sadness and pity, as though a billion wasted lives cried out at once, and then were silenced.

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  50. on March 1, 2012 at 7:47 pm pango

    OT: Solid alpha award? 41-yr-old teacher dumps his wife and kids for a hot 18-yr-old student.

    http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/teacher-leaves-wife-kids-high-school-student-225300504.html

    “Jordan, a quiet, fragile-seeming young woman, who looks closer to 15 than 18 years in age, gazed up at her former teacher, a man that looks every bit his 41 years, and said, “He’s more than just a lover.”

    well played!

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 8:59 pm attractionreaction

      PIMP. Look at the look on her face as she gazes up at him.

      And the author of the article – Piper – is so butthurt:
      “If this all sounds suspicious to you”
      and
      “It must be particularly hard for Hooker’s 17 year old daughter”
      and
      “Jordan, a quiet, fragile-seeming young woman, who looks closer to 15 than 18 years in age, gazed up at her former teacher, a man that looks every bit his 41 years”
      and
      “Desperate for her child, Tammie has”

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    • on March 1, 2012 at 10:08 pm Libertardian

      I love how the description is slanted ninety degrees to cast the guy as a decrepit pedophile. And people wonder why blogging is killing the mainstream media.

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    • on March 2, 2012 at 8:53 am Lara

      Come back to this story a year from now and then see how alpha he is. This manipulative girl will have dropped him like a hot potato and his life will still be in shambles.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 12:39 pm John Norman Howard

        Maybe so… but for one brief, shining moment… there was Ram-A-Lot!

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 1:22 pm driveallnight

        Wrong. It’s gonna be 2-3 years before that happens.

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  51. on March 1, 2012 at 9:06 pm Tmason

    OT: Looks like the Feminists are really ramping up their guns against PUAs:

    http://jezebel.com/5889669/only-assholes-say-you-wont-sleep-with-them-unless-theyre-assholes

    Can’t wait until the PUA community starts to get treated like criminals.

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  52. on March 1, 2012 at 9:23 pm Anonymous

    “Imagining themselves as the object of attention and lust is deeply erotic to women and the higher status the man the more erotic validation it provides. When society changes to raise women’s status in comparison with the men around them, their opportunity to fulfill their erotic needs declines. Their happiness decreases. ”

    Excellent comment. The big point: society has been inverted by the Elites.

    This is payback for World War II essentially. These are people who believe in revenge. Northern European WASPS, as MacDonald says, are not “vengeful” people generally. But this new elite most certainly is.

    This is “soft genocide” occuring in the West. It was orchestrated and planned. The lesson is that – take Christianity away from the masses, take religion and God, and this what happens – societal breakdown, hypergamy, once pure “God fearing” Christian woman sluttified.

    To be replaced, very soon at a theatre near you, with a cold Darwinism. Yes – the elites believe in Darwinism, because they themselves have basically won the genetic roll of the dice.

    Rest assured, the elites in power do NOT really believe in female empowerment, liberalism, multiculti. This was a ruse to overturn society. All of these people will be shut down, and shut off very shortly.

    Public enemy #1 is the heterosexual white male. Note how all other people who are NOT heterosexual white males have been essentially turned against us.

    Once the elite gets a firm grip — once the Western economies are collapsed, the dollar is collapsed, no one can make a living, one world government police state is firmly established (within next 10 years?) — a new phase we move into.

    The elites are actually CONSERVATIVE. They are actually strongly right-wing at heart. But following Machiavelli, they are posing as the exact opposite. Trust me these people could not care less about feminism, global warming, racism.

    It is all a ruse people. They are the biggest racists going – they are the “special ones” and everyone else is cattle.

    What is the answer, what do we do? The answer: This blog, for starters. The hysterical Great Books for Men! And the sphere of Sailer, Derbyshire, MacDonald, Gene Expression, etc. etc

    The nightmare of these lunatics are informed people who see exactly what is going on, and continue to talk about it.

    All hail Heartiste!

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    • on March 2, 2012 at 12:08 am John Norman Howard

      This is payback for World War II essentially. These are people who believe in revenge. Northern European WASPS, as MacDonald says, are not “vengeful” people generally. But this new elite most certainly is.

      Oh, that’s a relief… for a moment there I thought our problem was the Jews.

      “Elites”, is it? And WASPS to boot?

      Well… no sweat then! WASPS we are allowed to verbally assault (for sins, both real and imagined)… heck, even physically, under the right aegis!

      Make way for the revolution on the morn!

      /fail more 🙄

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 12:44 pm whiskeysplace

        It is not the Jews. Nor is it the elites masterplan. And trust me on this, the elites believe deeply in feminism, save the Gay Whales, recycling, and the rest of the nonsense. I’ve been around enough of them to know. They also deeply deny Darwinism wrt people.

        This is a deep cultural aspect. Pretty much the entire elite structure of Northwest Europe and America is post-Calvinist, Nordic, etc. That’s the culture if not the ethnicity. It is unbelievably strong. True they lost their Christianity, but retained the cultural traits: kindness to animals, reverence for nature, group-think, analytical bent, social improvement, freedom for women, adoption of other languages/cultures (to a degree), etc. that characterize this culture from Vikings to East Anglia Puritans to New England social reformers to SWPL to urban hipsters. Vikings may have dumped Thor and Odin for Jesus, but they retained their essential Nordic culture, including far greater latitude for women, high trust among men (Loki is the “evil God” because he fosters dissent, North American Indians revere “trickster gods” because for them cohesion was not important).

        The Scarlett Letter and Girl With The Dragon Tattoo are essentially the same book: evil oppressive society does not permit free expression of female sexuality, a complaint made again and again by various members of this culture. If either had been set in New Orleans there would have been no novel — everyone expects adultery and deviance and no one cares about either.

        White people ARE different. Attitudes about pretty much everything related to life are radically different among Whites in Louisiana vs. those in Portland or Boston.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 2:37 pm DiamondEyes

        Yeah this whole comment seemed like a precise description of the Kosher Gameplan. So who are these “elites” Anon?

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  53. on March 1, 2012 at 9:37 pm 40 year old Virgin

    Why should I fucking care?

    Nobody but me worries about MY fucking happiness.
    But the holy vagina life-support systems get a damned “Stop-the-press” treatment.

    Isn´t worrying about complaining bitches, ah, uhm, BETA?

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    • on March 2, 2012 at 10:23 am Greater Omega

      No shit. Half the men I know are out of work, or barely working. Half the men I know have no sexual partners. Some of my married friends admit they haven’t had sex in months. I don’t know a single woman who’s out of work except my choice (doctor’s wives). I know an ‘unhappy’ SWPL PhD. who expresses her misery by traveling abroad every six weeks. Poor thing. What a trooper! Sort of like the rich, angst-ridden kid driving around talking about suicide in the new BMW his dad just bought him…

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  54. on March 1, 2012 at 9:40 pm Anonymous

    Grim reality. Women are brood mares designed to breed and raise offspring. They are not designed to be hookers for handbags, hookers for social status (sorority girls), lawyers, etc… none of this is female nature.

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    • on March 2, 2012 at 1:28 am Anonymous

      Yes, but women *aren’t* designed to exist in a monogamous society. They are polygamous by nature. For some reason, all the MGTOWers forget this little fact whenever they bleat about how women need to stay at home.

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  55. on March 1, 2012 at 10:21 pm danielj

    Women’s happiness declining….. blah blah blah…..

    Men give giant, collective shoulder shrug in response…

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  56. on March 1, 2012 at 11:22 pm Anonymous

    what does SWPL mean?

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    • on March 2, 2012 at 12:38 am Anon

      http://lmgtfy.com/?q=swpl

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    • on March 2, 2012 at 12:59 am SWPL

      SWPL is an acronym for Stuff White People Like.

      http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/ is a website that satirizes young, naive liberals.

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    • on March 2, 2012 at 7:21 am Harkat

      Stuff White People Like.

      Essentially, it’s used as a noun to describe white middle-class liberals with strong anti-racist, moderately feminist, idealistic views.

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  58. on March 1, 2012 at 11:59 pm Jumungus

    Dang manes! post speaks volumes…
    What’ll always be funny is the way women WORK to show naive men how good they can be/ attempt to make the guy work for her, by now, “pedalized pussy”. Spending money, time, etc..
    But when nice, helpful, caring guy’s back is turned or more sexually aggressive male shows she “lets loose” and cheats with no problem, says its not her fault, and claims Men suck when she get pumped and trashed.. WTF!

    Women have not a clue what they want.. That’s for US to decide! We must maintain the order of master at all costs… Otherwise, the dog’ll run free, piss on your crops, or worse lick the hand of the neighbor!

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    • on March 2, 2012 at 5:28 pm FredMertz

      I have this picture of you and GBFM in a room having some kind of nut-bag conversation,talking to each other in that goofy language.

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    • on March 4, 2012 at 1:40 am Anonymous

      Yup, the imagery is a little off, but good point.

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  59. on March 2, 2012 at 12:15 am n/a

    The posts written by females in this thread are instructive.–

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    • on March 2, 2012 at 5:09 pm GeishaKate

      A damn fine discussion, I think.

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  60. on March 2, 2012 at 12:47 am Jumungus

    Damn, another ounce of beta bitch shed fell from my body w this information! Thanks Cheat..

    Lesson learned! Women want to be fucked first no exceptions! (no dates, kissin, gifts, etc) then dominated emotionally, then punished severely, then fucked again into verbal submission. Strangely, that’s the ONLY way to keep her! She MUST be a sex toy BEFORE she can be a gf/wife… I fucking get it now!!!! If mistakenly, she is to become wife before u tap into her deeper inner slut, you have FAILED! prepare for heartache and broke emotions.. she WILL cheat, lie, test, deny, smart mouth, or cuckold u for ur balls not being big enough to tame her… real. fucking. talk!

    This blog deserves props on high… Shits deep.

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  61. on March 2, 2012 at 4:27 am Belgambit

    Heh, I think this classic pic still applies:

    http://www.tinyurl.com/niceguysucker

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    • on March 4, 2012 at 1:38 am Anonymous

      Yeah, definitely. Not to metioning the one of the two proud caucasian parents with a mixed-race baby who looks like the mother.

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  62. on March 2, 2012 at 5:26 am derthal

    Off topic: officials support shit – EU is one big madness, stay away

    Guy in this video received grant from one of European Union founds. Our bureaucrats literally support shit, in this case elephant shit as form of art.

    http://tinyurl.com/7olrnsw

    Enjoy the show

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  63. on March 2, 2012 at 5:53 am Anonymous

    This is why Andrew Breitbart died:

    He blew a gasket.

    Conservative men must not let the liberals get to them so much.

    He had just gone to a bar where he argued for 90 minutes with the normal people he met there, while trying to supposedly relax.

    And he apparently supported Santorum? That made him an authoritarian, not a small government conservative. But I haven’t been following the guy. I haven’t since I didn’t like the way he used the idea that prostitution is criminal in order to bring down ACORN, which otherwise was a good thing. He also wanted to get advice givers at Planned Parenthood arrested for not reporting to the police any instance of a teenager saying she was having sex with someone over 18. That’s not the direction PUAs want things to go. There are better reasons to stop federal funding of Planned Parenthood.

    Anyway, the Rush Limbaugh comments on the Georgetown slut lawyer are getting major play in the media and Twitter. It’s a hot topic that would get tons of traffic to this blog if it were to come under heavy discussion here.

    I’d say the socialist congresspeople who listened to that testimony were to blame for not nailing the student down on what she was trying to say: was she really trying to say that older male taxpayers should pay for the condoms and pills the coeds need to have lots of sex with other men? She conflated different concepts, deliberately making her demands murky.

    Republican Congressmen like Ron Paul should get the chance to cross-examine this feminist law student.

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    • on March 2, 2012 at 12:45 pm John Norman Howard

      Shouting “BEHAVE YOURSELF!” over and over again to the equivalent of the peanut gallery at the Coliseum is pretty weak… meh.

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  64. on March 2, 2012 at 6:31 am pantyfx

    The fuck do I care about happyness statistics? let’s get one thing straight: We sell dopamine bro.

    In masse, by and large, everything that gets talked about here is producing synthetic lifestyle. We are the new age of pushers, safe drugs produced by our bodies.

    Unhappy women(hell men as well) just mean more buyers.

    Its never about the behavior its about producing the juice. Who cares about anyones state so long as I can swagger upon them an intoxicating blow of loyalty.
    gets the joke, but it seems a lot of you don’t. Your bowing to ideals that have no value. A woman’s love has value only because we are brainwashed into thinking so from onset.

    Fucking loving the meta your spinning though man, I can’t tell you how easy it is to hit my target market nowadays (7-9 nerd girls, im a 7).

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  65. on March 2, 2012 at 7:34 am LP 999

    Humanity is never happy, women create drama to talk about. Women have unbelievable lists of what they want in life and in a partner, they do not operate in reality due to estrogen. Modern men are doomed b/c they fail to understand this has nothing to do with them and everything to do with how self absorbed humanity (women) are.

    SWPL: stuff white pple like

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  66. on March 2, 2012 at 9:27 am Opus

    I have a little book from OUP entitled Happiness, and if I recall correctly Married People are happier than the unmarried, from which one must conclude given the female of the species propensity for Divorce, that they have nothing but short termism, as Divorce generally makes them more miserable. How long before some woman blames men for making them unhappy by giving in to their wailings for Easy Divorce?

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    • on March 2, 2012 at 12:19 pm GeishaKate

      “How long before some woman blames men for making them unhappy by giving in to their wailings for Easy Divorce?”

      I can definitely hear that happening: “Why didn’t you fight for me?”

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      • on March 4, 2012 at 1:35 am Anonymous

        My ex did that. Fuck you, you didn’t want me first, I replied,

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      • on March 4, 2012 at 2:13 am Anti Blue pill

        “Why didn’t you fight for me?”

        Cuz your an aging Cunt.

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  67. on March 2, 2012 at 9:48 am ATrain

    Heartiste:

    N.J. legislator proposes bill requiring genetic testing for all newborns, parents to verify paternity

    http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/03/nj_legislator_proposes_measure.html

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  68. on March 2, 2012 at 10:36 am Lovekraft

    SWPL means Stuff White People Like.

    It is a derogatory term meant to ridicule the leftist environmentalist hipster urban douche and douchettes.

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    • on March 2, 2012 at 6:29 pm Fred Rotten

      “It is a derogatory term meant to ridicule the leftist environmentalist hipster urban douche and douchettes.”

      You know, the kind of people you see on Apple commercials.

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      • on March 4, 2012 at 2:09 am Anti Blue pill

        “You know, the kind of people you see on Apple commercials”

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  69. on March 2, 2012 at 10:50 am Anonymous

    More grim reality. Women are born to breed. Men are born to fuck. Imagine going 20 years without sex and you know the life of a 32 year old barren female menstruating for 20 years with no offspring.

    There is only one solution to the female quandary: substitute in the sex for cock carousel and the kids for cats.

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  70. on March 2, 2012 at 10:58 am Nick S

    I am always a little bit skeptical of such studies as it is pretty well mandatory that any such study point to female grievance/need/victimhood etc. It could also be that men are simply less likely to report unhappiness as they assume few people care about their happiness, while women’s unhappiness is considered a grave social concern. That said, there are some reasons why women may be less happy while men are more so.

    Expectations heavily influence how satisfied people are with outcomes. Women have been given greater expectations (that they can have the best of all worlds, career, family etc), so they feel more disappointed when reality falls short of expectations. Men have been conditioned to expect less (declining role in society due to female empowerment etc), so they are sometimes surprised when life doesn’t turn out too badly.

    I suspect another cause of female unhappiness is the declining levels of social trust, social cohesion, “community”, the voluntary sector etc. This would affect women more as women tend to be more social, ‘herd creatures’ than men. Women have a greater tendency to simply go along with the dominant values of society. Whereas men have less to lose from declining social cohesion and social capital as the dominant values of society favor females over males. If anything, it is easier for men to be disconnected from a society that despises males. Whereas it is harder for women as they need more external validation to keep themselves happy and centered. A world of isolated individuals is one where more men would be able to cope than women.

    For feminists, it must be a bitter pill to swallow. Despite all the advantages they have secured for women over men (better education, affirmative action, family law bias, reproductive rights etc.) women still struggle to make it work and still need men. So instead they just pretend that all these problems are due to ongoing societal sexism against women (essentially unfinished feminist business).

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    • on March 2, 2012 at 12:14 pm OzGirlie

      Nick S

      True. You guys do better in the real world of work. I have just started working and already the blokes are more serious. Men just seem to get smarter as they approach 30 while chicks get dumber and more desperate. Reality hurts.

      Most girls only care about Sisterhood until The One comes along. I want to make my boyfriend interested, not feminists happy.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 5:12 pm GeishaKate

        Prepare to be disliked by (most) women 🙂

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    • on March 3, 2012 at 1:28 am LFP

      You nailed it. Great comments.

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  71. on March 2, 2012 at 1:10 pm Arturo de Gheaube

    OT but :

    “The Scandal At The Zoo,” New York Times, 2006 :

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/06/nyregion/thecity/06zoo.html?pagewanted=2

    From the article :

    “To the black ministers and their allies, the message of the exhibit was clear: The African was meant to be seen as falling somewhere on the evolutionary scale between the apes with which he was housed and the people in the overwhelmingly white crowds who found him so entertaining.”

    …/…

    OMG This stuff is just too delicious! I can’t resist posting more quotes from the NYT’s “Scandal At The Zoo” :

    “The New York Globe printed a letter from a reader that said: “I lived in the south several years, and consequently am not overfond of the negro, but believe him human. I think it a shame that the authorities of this great city should allow such a sight as that witnessed at the Bronx Park — a negro boy on exhibition in a monkey cage.””

    And again :

    “The person responsible for this exhibition,” said the Rev. R. S. MacArthur, a white man who was pastor of the Calvary Baptist Church, “degrades himself as much as he does the African. Instead of making a beast of this little fellow, we should be putting him in school for the development of such powers as God gave him.”

    …/…

    This early 19th-century stuff is like the Antidote to the Cognitive Dissonance in which we are otherwise awash when it comes to present day race irreality.

    In the face of such refreshingly honest discussions about race, it’s like the rapacious reality reversers at the New York Times are caught with their pants down.

    Sincerely,

    – Arturo

    crimesofthetimes.com

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  72. on March 2, 2012 at 1:29 pm Bill

    Oh, I covered this a couple months ago, and came up with a theory that I think is probably the key:

    http://www.the-spearhead.com/2011/12/12/decoding-the-female-happiness-paradox/

    Perhaps we could do the authors, and women, a favor by “decoding the paradox.” The feminist triumph has deprived women of an essential element of their erotic lives. By raising women’s status and emphasizing “equality,” feminism has performed the psychological equivalent of a clitoridectomy on our society’s women. Rather than objects of lust and passion, they are now competitors, rivals and colleagues — their erotic capital is significantly diminished. The men around them are no longer strong and dominant, but cowed, vacillating and timid. Women’s opportunities to “feel like a woman” have been radically curtailed. Hypergamous needs are left unfulfilled by their “equal” husbands and boyfriends.

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    • on March 3, 2012 at 1:32 am LFP

      Exactly. It’s far less likely that I’ll feel sexually attracted to a co-worker gunning for the same promotion I am. It just doesn’t compute.

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    • on March 4, 2012 at 2:03 am Anti Blue pill

      Yeah but too bad the Misandrist Media and those mangina politician’s cried
      cuntadile tears to make rush apologize.

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  74. on March 2, 2012 at 1:57 pm Your Average Girl

    I somewhat concur with this. Please note that the following is not a complaint. I say this more as factual observation. . .

    Women no longer have a choice. We really do have to work. If a girl is raised middle to upper-middle class and has at least one college-educated parent, we are explicitly raised to be high achievers. I was raised in the 80s, and I and my cohorts were raised to believe that you must have a career; you must have be able to take care of yourself. In fact, I would argue that our mothers, even our SAH ones, emphasized this MORE for us than our brothers. I think they knew what was at stake if we didn’t and found ourselves in the aftermath of divorce. After seeing our parents’ divorces as the years went on (or sometimes or married SAHMs’ anxieties), most women of my generation who are married see work as essential because we have this worry that if our marriages ever fail and we are homemakers, we have no marketable skills then to support ourselves with. And, of course, we as a society are now so acclimated to two-household incomes that our husbands know there is no possible way in some cases to have a nice home (and I mean ‘nice’, not ‘over-the-top’) without a second income.

    I would love to work part-time and spend my time planning meals and taking care of our home or doing volunteer work. I, who never had a home-ec course, find myself actually enjoying preparing and cooking meals on the weekends, but not on weekdays when I come home after a long day. Consequently, I prepare something as quickly and easy as possible (and I feel a little guilty for not having the time or energy to make something better). I am not at all a competitive person, but as I do work, I do find myself comparing myself to my husband and coming up short. I feel so guilty about my education loans that I am paying off (for a Master’s that I don’t use) and see them as drain on our finances. My husband makes more than double what I make, and I am so grateful that he does and that he is a success. I don’t want to compete for higher paying jobs because that would take away from the time I would have to spend with him and our home. I don’t mind being a leader or in charge, but I have zero desire to beat down everyone else to get there. I am content, but I wish I didn’t feel split between feeling pressure (my own, fueled by guilt) to be more of a high-achieving professional and wanting to be home and have a baby. My husband honesty doesn’t care about what I make, but as I have loans to pay off, he definitely wants those paid off before we make other decisions (which I completely understand and agree with – the debt, after all, is of my own making). I guess I wished I made more money so I could pay my loans off faster. And, of course, who am I to want to be home and do these things when I am an able-bodies women who could be earning money for my family (no, that’s not sarcasm. I would feel SO guilty if I got to stay home if my husband thinks I should work).

    I don’t always agree with what you say on here or how you say it. But I will say there is a significant, but quiet group of us women who wishes that we could be make our family and homes our true priority, our at least, didn’t have to go to college to get okay-paying jobs that really could’ve been achieved through in-house training or low-cost local education. . . Now, we have substantial education bills, and between those and cost-of-living, we’ve come to a point where our families’ budgets depend on us to at least be working to a certain degree. Divorce is so prevalent that we would be putting ourselves at risk if we ever were lucky enough to have the option of staying home to take care of our families full-time.

    Again, this is not a complaint, per se, because I am certain that my husband’s job is no bed of roses, either. There are simply no easy answers, but I won’t lie: I do dream of having more time to have a family and giving back to society through other endeavors. If I didn’t have education loans and my husband was on board with that plan, I feel it would be a much better use of my time for everyone. However, rising COL + easy divorce + no loyalty between the sexes = women who have to work.

    Again, not a complaint – just reality for the majority. I don’t like it, but I don’t feel like there’s anything I can do about, either.

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    • on March 2, 2012 at 3:04 pm John Norman Howard

      The rub to all this “have a career in case of a divorce” feminist bullshit is that you women, rocket scientists that you are, couldn’t figure out the obvious… rather, you probably could, but your monster egos wouldn’t let you… to wit:

      How much easier would it have been simply to do the things that make a man WANT to stay… rather than the Rube Goldberg machinations of getting tripe knowledge college degrees and running into a workplace willing to work for half of what a man could, because your hubby was making the true support bucks and your job was gravy… covering little more than your clothes and transportation budget… which ironically were only necessitated by your being out in the workplace to begin with?

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 3:22 pm Your Average Girl

        I don’t have much of an ego, JNH. And I do work very hard at my marriage because I want my my husband, and consequently, me, to be very happy together. I have my own interests, and I pursue them, but nothing makes me happier than knowing he’s happy in general and that the things I do make him happy. I never want a divorce; having grown up in the middle of an unhappy marriage and divorce, I want the cycle to stop, and I am willing to pull myself over hot coals to do it.

        I’m just saying that some women often find out that this is what makes them happy only after getting into education debt and witnessing their own mothers’ economic condition post divorce. It’s definitely not a healthy combination.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 5:18 pm GeishaKate

        I am sure you speak for many women who have similar experiences and hopes and dreams. Keep spreading the word! I think we need a motto: “Give up the ship’ ? 🙂

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 3:33 pm OzGirlie

        JNH, good point.

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      • on March 2, 2012 at 5:32 pm John Norman Howard

        Oi! 😉

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    • on March 4, 2012 at 3:52 pm H

      The vast majority of divorces are the woman leaving the man, nope try again.

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      • on March 5, 2012 at 12:35 pm Your Average Girl

        True, but I will also point out that, per a mention I’ve seen on this site, women sometimes initiate after the husband has made it very clear he has no intention of continuing with the marriage (might have been in the comments – not sure). This was the case in my own parents’ marriage. My father made it very clear that he has no intention of remaining in the marriage, but also flat out refused to initiate proceedings, He didn’t want to be the bad guy. Told my mother she had to do it.

        Not saying that this is the case everytime, but I’ve seen it a fair share of times.

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      • on March 6, 2012 at 12:27 pm Lele

        Because divorce is an easier path for women than for men. Whatever, that proves his point anyway: men are very likely to stay if you just avoid screwing things up.

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  75. on March 2, 2012 at 2:13 pm Ken_in_SC (@Ken_in_SC)

    Women don’t understand why men enjoy drinking. Men have an enzyme that women don’t have that allows them to metabolize alcohol. Alcohol makes most men happy. It makes most women crazy.

    They not only don’t understand why men enjoy it, they also resent it.

    Women, consciously or unconsciously, expect their men to protect them. A man who is enjoying himself with drink is not very good in the protective mode. This makes women feel insecure. They can’t admit that because they’re not supposed to need men for anything like that.

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    • on March 2, 2012 at 5:08 pm FredMertz

      Not to mention “whiskey dick”!

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  76. on March 2, 2012 at 2:33 pm Anonymous

    According to this study(July 2011), there’s a been a spike in suicides amongst middle-aged women.

    http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/43714272/ns/today-today_health/t/suicide-spikes-among-middle-aged-women/

    From the article:
    “Loneliness and depression are also suicide risk factors. “Older women especially in the U.S. are more isolated and separated from daily human contact outside of work and the internet,” says Ellyn Kaschak, Ph.D., emeritus professor of psychology at San Jose State University and the editor of the journal Women & Therapy”

    I can’t help but wonder if this has something to do with “feminist expectations” being destroyed by the reality of being an aging woman.

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    • on March 2, 2012 at 11:08 pm john d

      can’t say that I feel bad for them. They got everything they wanted and it didn’t work out like they thought it would. Women don’t want success, they want the one thing they can’t have again, their beauty.

      Now look at men, we love success and being King. Men care more about work and our achievements than our genetic looks, which is the best

      it can’t be ignored

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  77. on March 2, 2012 at 5:08 pm Johnny

    Limbaugh is a scumbag money whore.

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    • on March 4, 2012 at 1:54 am Anti Blue pill

      Yesssss…let the butt hurt flow thru you.

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  78. on March 4, 2012 at 11:03 pm Demon Troll

    What is a happy woman?

    1. Alpha husband who women constantly chase with alpha charm
    2. Upper class with upper class hubby. Wealth, power, respect, trappings of status (ivy ed, finest brands).
    3. Constantly preggers with brood of offspring all absurdly well bred.
    4. Maintains her looks. MILF. Access of plastic surgery
    5. Hubby provides powerful intercourse
    6. Hubby has stupendous genome. 160iq, alpha traits, athleticism, looks half his age.
    7. Lazy life of shopping with female boding. She is an object of envy.
    8. She only slept with one man (her hubby). Dignity.

    Does modern feminism provide this?

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  79. on March 4, 2012 at 11:20 pm Demon Troll

    9. Assumes a submissive position.. cleans, cooks and serves her husband. respects, adores and listens.
    10. She occasionally negs him (mostly out of terror that he will leave her), which is a constant dagger over her head.

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