Before you read this post, I want you to remember something written here many times. The alpha male is not necessarily the admirable man. The alpha male is the guy who does really well with young, hot (read: high quality) women, because women love everything about him. You may not like the character of such men, but a lot of women sure do. So redirect your blame where it rightfully belongs, if blame you must.
That said, and without further ado, behold the winner of the Alpha Male of the Month award.

For the lovelorn nerds in the audience, that’s what adoration looks like. And, for that matter, that’s what cocky confidence looks like. The two tend to go hand in hand in matters of the smitten heart.
The details behind this loving photo aren’t exactly the stuff of after school specials (or maybe they are now?).
Last year, Jordan Powers was just another student from Mr. Hooker’s class. Now she’s his live-in girlfriend.
James Hooker — the 41-year-old married father who left his wife and kids for his 18-year-old-student — might be the worst teacher ever. Last week, he resigned from his job at Enochs High School in Modesto, California over the scandal that’s shaken up a community and pit one mom on a crusade to save her daughter from a man she calls a “master manipulator.”
Jordan met her teacher as a freshman, but both maintain nothing physical happened until she turned 18 this past September. Hooker claims he saw Powers as “just a student” and had no romantic feelings toward her at first, but when her most recent birthday came around, things changed.
They changed so much, in fact, that Hooker, left his wife and three kids (one of them a 17-year-old Enochs high school student as well) so that he could move in with Jordan.
It doesn’t get much more ALPHA than winning the utter devotion of a hot babe half your age. For those wondering, I consider leaving your loyal wife and kids to live with a younger, hotter woman to be legitimate grounds for the wife to initiate divorce proceedings and extract some type of payment for damage inflicted. Shocking that you hear a man like me say this? Well, what this guy did was break a deal. Broken deals usually come with consequences. This is why I counsel men to avoid modern marriage altogether: it’s a RAW FUCKING DEAL for men because it requires most of the sacrifice to come from the man’s end of the bargain. A man has to turn his back on much more of his natural sexual predilection in the decision to commit to marriage than does a woman. Why do you think women are so eager to rush into the nuptial shackles bond?
The more interesting angle to this story is how it operates at the level of what I call a reverse Rorschach test. Given an unmistakable picture of an in-shape, confident man with a much younger, sexually developed woman obviously in love with him, we get to examine in technicolor glory the psyches of people, particularly older women, whose instinct is to recoil at the sight. We get to see, essentially, an enraged, fearful mind create an inky blotch out of a clear picture.
Lets follow the cunty brick road down the article author’s mindmap for an illuminating glimpse at her terrorized id thrashing violently against the bars of its cage. Note: Author is an older woman. As are the other women, besides Jordan, quoted in the article.
If this all sounds suspicious to you…
Jordan, a quiet, fragile-seeming young woman, who looks closer to 15 than 18 years in age…
gazed up at her former teacher, a man that looks every bit his 41 years…
Desperate for her child, Tammie has turned her own Facebook page into a “most wanted” profile for Hooker…
Since the story has been picked up by national press, she’s been flooded with messages of support from strangers….
“Nancy’s always been a victims advocate and fights for justice,” Tammie wrote on Facebook. “That’s the goal here, justice.”
Sounds suspicious, older man must be up to no good, possibly firing mind rays into girl? Check.
Helpless, fragile 18-year-old woman who could be mistaken, if you stare hard enough through a gauzy filter, for a prepubescent girl with no boobs, hips or ass? Check.
Man therefore a creepy pedophile? Check.
41-year-old man looks his age so why isn’t he dating women like me? Check.
Mother desperate for her legally adult “child”? Check.
Insinuation that man should be on a Most Wanted List? Check.
Armies of women circling the wagons around mother, shaming man into ostracizing himself? Check.
Older man in a loving relationship (and, yes, you bet it’s loving) with younger woman now a matter of “justice” and “victims”? Check.
Oh, my sides! These are the pretty lies older women tell themselves to calm the fear and terror inspired by their sexual obsolescence. It’s so obvious to anyone with the eyes to see: the craving for a world that is aligned with older women’s fragile, helpless egos, a craving so powerful that rivers of deceit, distortion and defamation spill from their lips and pens in an effort to obscure the dread, dark reality. And that reality is this–
Every older husband — every fucking one of them — is turned on by the sight of hot women half his wife’s age. He imagines scenarios… transactions… with these younger babes, thrillingly vivid and the stuff of older wives’ nightmares, and no amount of religious upbringing, tortured self-abnegation, hypocrisy or womanly shaming will cleanse his mind of these delicious thoughts.
Most men don’t act on these thoughts, because most men don’t have the option to act on them. But some do. If they are smart, they mouth feminist platitudes to distract the loser brigade while nailing the ass of some fine buxom coed. Just ask Hugo Schwyzer.
Update
I find it funny that the mother of the young woman is attempting to smear the guy by pointing to texts he sent her just before she turned 18. That kind of charade puts the lie to the intentions behind age of consent laws. It’s ridiculous to insinuate, as this mom is doing, that her little girl was a radically different woman incapable of making decisions for herself just a few months before she turned 18. The mother is appealing to a legalistic, arbitrary age demarcation — in this case communication that occurred only a few months on the “wrong” side of the law — as proof that Hooker is a pedophile in all but the clinical definition. I understand the mother’s fury, but her actions do nothing but discredit the real impetus behind AOC laws: to protect sexually undeveloped children from the predations of real pedophiles.
Relatedly, almost every scientific study I’ve seen has concluded that girls mature earlier than boys on a whole host of emotional and physical metrics. An 18 year old woman is more capable of choosing to be the lover of a 41 year old man than an 18 year old man is capable of choosing to go to war.
Apparently, the mother is a single mom. The girl grew up with no father. Well… wadaya expect? The odds that the daughters and sons of single moms grow up to be sluts and delinquents respectively are higher than they would be had they grown up in two-parent homes. The usual caveats about causality implied, I think most everyone, including the experts, agree that a mom+dad is better for kids than a mom alone. In that spirit, a vigorous public shaming of single moms is good for the children. So…
you suck, single moms! Way to be bad mothers! 😆

Mom is turned on, resentful.
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How can my daughter be getting the attention I deserve?
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“Waaaaa!!!! I want attention too!!!”–the mom.
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His lastname is awesome.
“Have you seen Hooker with that hooker?”
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“Boooo hooooo. I’m my PRIME! Why doesn’t he want me?!?!?!?! ;'( “
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I predict this is the “breaking of the dam”. Once one person does something, and survives, everyone who secretly wanted to do it rushes ahead.
Remember how after Mary Kay Letourneau, you saw an ever-increasing pattern of women teachers sleeping with their students? Or how after Columbine, the next decade saw dozens of school shootings?
In the same way, its going to become commonplace for older men to publicly have relationships with young women..
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“Or how after Columbine, the next decade saw dozens of school shootings? ”
My my. I thought the problem was solved by the federal law making
it illegal to bring a fire arm to or even near a school.
Clearly, a person planning mass murder will cease and desist
when he realizes that bringing that gun to school would break
federal law. Most mass murderers are very picky about obeying
all laws, “studies have shown”.
Thor
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Remember how after Mary Kay Letourneau, you saw an ever-increasing pattern of women teachers sleeping with their students?
But those were under the age of consent students. This girl is 18. Another thing, most places have an age of consent of 16 which only rises to 18 if one party is in a position of control over the other. As long as the student is not in a teacher’s class there is no control factor involved which means that in most places 16 would be the aoc.
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That’s not the point. OP is only comparing them because of his theory of copycatting.
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Teachers have been banging students ever since teachers & students were invented.
Girls get turned on by authority. The fact that a teacher banged a student says nothing about his alphaness. It’s not like she was one of his many girlfriends or even a mistress.
The fact that he was willing to put up with divorce court rape to give her a RELATIONSHIP is evidence that he’s just a beta who lucked out and got a position where a particular girl submitted to the authority given to him by the school.
In other words, he ain’t no Joey Buttafuco.
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This man was a fool for not fucking the mother and daughter together.
This young woman’s mother was hungry to suck the cock that split her daughter’s virgin ass and this fine but foolish man lost a rare opportunity.
A mother gains at least 3 points when she slurps your cock fresh from her daughter’s teen asshole.
Pussified men, do not be afraid of six soaked and quivering holes as they wiggle on the floor. Cialis solves the apparent arithmetic and geometric difficulties with towel-hanging panache.
All said, I celebrate this man’s bald head soaked in the fresh sweet juice of ripe teen cunt.
Amen.
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Dude. LOL.
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Quite the lyricist I see mister n/a. Carry on old chap.
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Wrong. Look at the 18 yo’s cheeks. Those puffy cheeks are tell-tale signs that in the next 10 years, she will put on more weight that Snookie carries in STDs. The mom, no doubt, looks that a walrus in a dress.
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Who gives a fuck about 10 years.
He wants to further Gillespie those chipmunk cheeks with a fire-hose worth of thick sperm in the next 10 minutes.
She’s sucking his fat venous member and licking his rapidly graying balls right now.
Who gives a fuck about 10 years.–
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He’ll care when he’s 51. My first thought was this girl looks good only because she’s 18. She’s otherwise pretty ordinary and as was pointed out, she won’t age well. Still, it’s a pretty good pull for a 41 YO.
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You’re right about the hilarity of bitter old women being resentful of this situation, but on another note, watch what happens when this 18 year old starts going clubbing in 3 years and bangs studs left and right. She’s gonna wake up and leave this old man and he’s gonna regret leaving his family and job.
When this relationship ends once she changes her mind (and which 18 year old doesn’t every 3 seconds???????), it’s gonna ruin this man’s life. He just dumped his family AND his job forever (which school is going to hire him?) for a wishy washy 18 year old.
I applaud this man for dumping his fat wrinkly wife for a hot young woman, but he shouldn’t have dated a former student. It tells me he’s a creep who probably took advantage of his position of power and has been grooming this girl for a long time now.
He’s her ex teacher who she probably had a crush on because of his power. When that shit likely wears off she’s gonna leave his ass for other men.
If he has game, then it doesn’t really matter, he’ll get other hot young women, but I’m not betting on that.
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More likely Jordan will age fast and, if he’s really alpha, he will want to move on. The scenario you describe will only happen if he was just a lucky beta like the teacher in “Mr. Holland’s Opus”.
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“More likely Jordan will age fast”…yup. Look at her face. Round, already a bit pudgy, no real bone structure…wonky teeth. She’ll be past it at 25.
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But that face is looking real nice to Mr. Hooker as he stuffs his former student’s mouth with his cock.
Who gives a damn about 25 when you’ve got 18 dripping all over you?
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Did you catch the gay version:”Mr. Holland’s Anus”?
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She will leave him. Should have fucked her and kept it secret. Told her their love was doomed, but that she’d always be his only daughter. ‘Fatherhood is forever.’ Encourage her to go to college because he ‘loves’ her and wants what’s best for her. Tell her he needs a while to convince his doting wife that ‘it’s over’ and that he’ll marry her after she graduates with her Human Resources degree… Then, when finally rid of her, fuck a rising junior. Rinse and repeat, leaving the leftovers for the frat boys. Always going home to ‘mama’ Fred MacMurrray (The Apartment) style.
This guy’s not alpha. He’s in love. He’s going to be roasted Joan of Arc style…
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“This guy’s not alpha. He’s in love.”
Exactly. Why did he feel the need to rush into what seems to be an exclusive relationship with his student? Is he going to marry her now? Give her flowers?
He could have had good sex with her secretly on the side, he didn’t need to break up and this whole thing didn’t need to be in the media.
What happened: a male teacher sees the girl of his dreams in the classroom, she reminds him of the high school girl she never got, he feels the need to jump on the occasion and cling on to her because he’s convinced there won’t be a third time.
“Apparently, the mother is a single mom. The girl grew up with no father.”
There you go. I could have guessed it just by looking at the photo.
He did something foolish and this relationship is not going to last long. I would have nominated him for Beta of the Month
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My thoughts exactly. How long can a you girl stay in love with a 41 year old man?
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if he’s got enough game, forever.
surely you’ve met girls who just couldn’t quite get over that one guy? that ex which is the yardstick by which all subsequent guys are measured, but fail to measure up?
five minutes of alpha can be eternal.
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How long can a young girl stay in love with a 41 year old man?
For as long as it takes for him to get tired of fucking that sweet pussy mouth and ass.–
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Exactly. Permanency in relationship is for those that NEED it.
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Except, he decided to mortgage his first marraige to get the pussy in question. He’ll have the bills and no pussy in five years.
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No pussy in five years? Really? Is it that hard to get another girl?
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I’m referring to sex in the marriage. Still, he ran home with this prize as soon as he could, telling me he doesn’t generally have much success with women. They don’t call it the Celibate States of America for nothing. All the same, you’re not living in the US, so your question is moot.
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How long can any female of any age stay in love?
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Sometimes it’s their entire lifetime…
However, your point’s very well taken. She’s going to likely be GONE in a couple of years.
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i was thinking the same thing. this man initiates her, and when she comes to her senses she’ll be out of there hooking up with guys her own age.
heartiste–nice ‘silence of the lambs’ reference.
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Sounds like a very pleasurable “initiation.”
And this lovestruck babe knew long before teacher that boys her own age couldn’t cut it with their 3-minute fucks and puppy-dog eyes.
Nah, he’s gettin’ while the gettin’ is best. God Bless Him!
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Yeah, he’s real “old.”
He’s making out like a bandit, honey. Sorry.–
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When I went to high school, my “home room teacher” was in her first
job, about 20 years older than the students. We were all expecting
her to bed the oldest student in class, a very alpha type of person,
withing days of graduation. We were wrong, she picked another guy,
possibly second oldest, not so alpha. She was in an unhappy
marriage and had taken it out on her class (us, especially me).
But none of this mattered….
Thor
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So? You suggest that it’s difficult to start up new relationships, is that it?
What if you were wrong? For some of us it’s not difficult in the least, and we can get a new young girl in love with us within a month or two in any new city we move to.
And here you are completely reversing your previous “reason” why he made a bad choice. Now you’re saying it was actually wise of him to leave his wife.
Which is it? A risk to leave his wife, or a brave decision? It’s anything that happens to be convenient to your argument – your argument being he shouldn’t be fucking that pretty young girl who is into him.
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I don’t think this guy has much game because he left his wife and kids for an 18 year old. He should have pumped and dumped her and stayed with his family. he allowed his feeligns to get the best of him an sacrificed a lot of other things in his life he didn’t need to for her sake. This is why I think he’s a beta. An alpha would have boned them all and made them love it.
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Maybe he didn’t want to stay with his wife.
And his youngest “kid” is 17. You’ve got to be kidding me that he’d chose to stay married because of the “children” who are just about to fly out of the nest.
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Then go ahead and give it a shot. I think you’re just bragging here anyway. A guy in his position needs to think more carefully. BTW, he’s in California. there’s a high chance he’ll be stuck paying for their college and they will hate him for it if he doesn’t. Chilimony will still be a threat. The kids will resent him for leaving their mother too. You’re speaking from the perspective of someone who has no stake in this game and projecting your own situation on to it.
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I’m speaking from the perspective of a man who values autonomy over duty.
I’m not seeing your point at all. So what about the resentment of his kids. So what about chilimony. Perhaps there will be costs as well as benefits.
Clearly the man decided that the benefits were worth it.. Clearly he doesn’t hold the same values that you do.
And I can’t understand your values. At all.
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Funny thing. An American man at 18 years of age is deemed mature enough to make the decision to sign a contract that will have him shipped to foreign lands to get his ballsack blown off. If he breaks that contract he goes to jail. No consideration is shown for his age or immaturity at the time of signing.
An American woman at 18 years of age is deemed not even mature or responsible enough to decide who to date.
And they tell us the genders are equal.
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Win.
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The 18 y.o. can also marry, that’s a major contract.
And can sign his/her life away getting student loans
that will never be paid back, and thus ending up
in servitude. Those loans can not even be discharged
in bankruptcy.
Also, regardless of gender, the 18 y.o. can also vote for
president. But neither he nor she can have a beer.
Thor
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Thank God they cannot have a beer AND vote! They might vote for someone intent on destroying our country.
Wait. They must have been high while voting in the last election.
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I love that cocky smirk on his face. It’s like he hears applause inside his head. “Thank you, thank you, I know I am awesome.” Take a bow James Hooker.
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Well, at least you agree the wife should be compensated. I do disagree with your automatic alpha designation,though. I listened to the interview. I don’t know how you missed the gayness/low testosterone sound in his voice. The deepest sounding voices do come with drawbacks (usually the result of smoking), but this guy sounds a bit fruity. I’d like to hate the girl for inserting herself in this and pursuing a relationship with a married (with kids) man, but then she said her dad died when she was 9, so I’ll grant some leniency, almost want to feel sorry for her. The bottom line is there are plenty of 41-year-old non-married (no kids) males to pursue, but ease of availability and preselection win out, I suppose. I’m not sure this story would have attracted national headlines, though, if it happened in certain parts of the country. Like Texas or some similar state.
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agreed.
i think it’s more likely that this guy’s an upper beta who was at the right place at the right time with the right young slut. it doesn’t happen often, but it happens.
the question is, how long before the girl gets a taste of real alpha and dumps this guy?
nevertheless, every man in his mid 30’s on up should experience the joy of banging girls half his age on a regular basis. i think we can all agree on that.
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When you’re married with kids, 41 yo, and leaves them hanging for you 18 yo student, you pretty much peg the meter on every “dark triangle” metric that comprises the alpha meter. No beta would do that, even if the opportunity “presented itself.” As it almost always does when one is a decent looking teacher. As more men gets a hint, though blogs like this, more innately beta males in positions of statutory authority over girls will pursue such opportunities, given the favorable payoff vs. risk calculation.
Which is why, in civilized societies, parents don’t let daughters hang around men unchaperoned.
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Not even BLACK men?
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So you’re saying, Stuki, that Hooker read the Heartiste blog at some point and decided not to be politically correct at the cost of his happiness?
Interesting idea.
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My guess is he’s got naturally quite strong alpha traits; sufficient to overcome both social pressure and common sense telling him leaving all he’s got for a moonshot is a low expectation play.
Over time, with marriage providing less and less fulfillment, and social pressure to be anything but all the scum that you can be declining, those hurdles will be lower for more and more men.
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I agree with you about Jordan. What she did is wrong, but I do think she is looking for a father figure. Her mother is the one who is behaving the worst. I understand why she’s angry at Hooker, but she needs to show some recognition that her daughter isn’t entirely innocent in the whole affair.
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Nope. She does not “need to show” any such thing.
Morally, she “should” but that is entirely different.
In fact, the mother will get a lot more mileage out
of the “poor seduced innocent daughter” schtick
than she would from any other action.
Thor
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Mom’ll get a blog with a donate button and form a PAC and retire.
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I agree too. This guy reminds me of an ugly Hugo Schwyzer and little more. An Alpha would not be able to tolerate the PC BS of the California school system for one thing.
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We had a girl from Sunday School who married one of the church elders when she turned 18 and he was 38. She is 26 now and they have four kids and she still looks at him like he’s a god, waits on him hand and foot like obeying every command brings her deep pleasure. I learned a lot from him, heh.
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Your tale is a just one. I revel in it.
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Finally a righteous Christian hombre. They are surely rare.
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Yes, that is the outcome of correct training. She should get a deep peaceful feeling of belonging and purpose when serving.
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“A man has to turn his back on much more of his natural sexual predilection in the decision to commit to marriage than does a woman. Why do you think women are so eager to rush into the nuptial shackles bond?”
Not necessarily true. This would be true of men who can attract the hottest women with no commitment. George Clooney seems to have this figured out. Male commitment is a bargaining chip that for men who would otherwise not be able to close the deal should end up with a hotter babe. And again, if children are involved marriage is not so much the issue. Many women make the calculation that they can go after much more attractive men for cheap sex. There is some settling on their part for commitment.
The mistake many women make is they don’t seem to get that. They overshoot their long term potential with their short term advantage where they simply have no business thinking they can monopolize certain men.
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The mom thinks shes a youngin (born in 1970). You can tell by the profile pic she has on her FB and her musical interests (The Game. Really?!?)
I want to see more pics of the younger Powers please.
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I saw the mom’s Myspace whore pose on her FB page. Real tasteful.
Anyone out there have a name for that shit hairstyle of her’s, that chopped wedge thing? Half the frustrated 40 year olds in this country seem to have it.
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“The Frustrato”?
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I’ve received a few bad looks from older women when out with my current girl (14 years younger). However, other cute young girls smile at us and don’t seem weirded out or disapproving at all.
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because they know the deal.
but remember, the young girls of today are the older harpies of tomorrow.
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So they know the deal when young and cute, and then forget it later?
I wonder if they know much of anything. They just don’t care when they’re younger because they are literally queens of the planet. Then when they get older, they cling to these truth-denying shaming beliefs because its the most convenient to their self-identity.
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I was having dinner with a man fourteen years my senior and we ate off the same plate the entire meal like it was nothing out of the ordinary. Its not a romantic relationship, but we certainly enjoy each other’s company. Laughing and talking, I wasn’t paying attention to anything other than him. When we stood up to leave, I noticed a younger man from another table absolutely staring at us! LOL I really enjoy giving my friend that little status bump 🙂
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Why isn’t it a romantic relationship
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I thought the definition of “alpha” (on this site) is: A man that every woman wants to sleep with.
[heartiste: no. not every. just more than the average man.]
I get the whole thing about this man snagging a younger woman. But surely he is only really “alpha” if *most young women want him*. There is no indication of that.
[there will be now that he is preselected by a younger, hot babe.]
If there were quotes from other students raving about how sexy Mr. Hooker is…maybe. But there aren’t.
[he is living with a cute chick half his age. compared to most men, that makes him an alpha.]
Personally, the tone of his voice and general mien shouted BETA to me, pretty loud and clear. He has a very weak, namby-pamby manner about him that is just…gross.
[i didn’t listen to the vid. but whatever, the guy obviously has the vibe, the verbal chops, the attitude and/or the status that is needed to appeal to hotties.]
To this particular girl, yes, he is an alpha.
[since most women are similar in what they like in men, this particular girl’s love for him is evidence that many other younger women would like him as well.]
For now.
[who cares? it’s more than most men are experiencing.]
She does clearly adore him. For now. But she’ll dump him in her mid-twenties, for a much more sexually appealing man.
[you don’t know this. and women do find older men sexually appealing. it’s not like this guy is a 700lb basement dwelling nerdo.]
Maybe another older guy…totally possible. But this dude just does NOT have universal appeal.
[vocal tone aside, maybe the guy has a dominant personality when he’s alone with her?]
And I’m being totally honest and objective about that. This is coming from a girl who is not afraid to admit that she found Osama bin Laden to be dead sexy. (Couldn’t admit that to many people for years, but have come to terms with it!)
So, I say…he just got lucky. I highly doubt he could pull it off again. Therefore, not an alpha.
[the facts beg to differ.]
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Yareally shitted on a girl when she said Osama bin laden is sexy.
We need some yareally facts in here to set the record straight.
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like in: “you know why osama was so pissed. It’s because yareally fucked his wife”.
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I do agree that we’re jumping ahead and exaggerating this guy’s alpha quality.
If he actually were alpha he’d be smirking less, taking his access to blooming youth more for granted.
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This is coming from a girl who is not afraid to admit that she found Osama bin Laden to be dead sexy.
other girls admit it by converting to islam.
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“And I’m being totally honest and objective about that. This is coming from a girl who is not afraid to admit that she found Osama bin Laden to be dead sexy. ”
Kissinger was off by just a little when he said “power is the best
aphrodisiac”. Pretty close. And no, it is not wealth. Hunters
and gatherers (most of human existence) have little physical
wealth.
Their wealth is reputation.
Fame is reputation on steroids, it even narrowly trumps
power, thus the attraction to Osama bin Laden. Also
Che Guevara, the big print of whom was and is used
as a masturbatory object by young women.
(Fighting for freedom doesn’t quite do it.
If I were to establish a new tax haven, seriously
increasing human freedom, do you think teenage
girls would mast to my picture? Ha!)
Another aspect is that young women tend to gravitate
to the “rebel”, the neural wiring picking out the plausible
successor to current leadership. This is often a better
strategy than going for current leadership itself, they
are older and probably have lots of female attention
anyway.
Of course, in todays macrocountries world, rebels
succeed only very rarely. For every Fidel and Ernesto,
there are literally millions of “rebels” who get absolutely
nowhere. But the neural net doen’t know that.
Thor
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Crumpetess said: “He has a very weak, namby-pamby manner about him that is just…gross.”
I had the same impression. But he might have been putting on an act. He is probably aware that hordes of people are calling for him to be burned at the stake, so he may have been deliberately trying to appear as non-threatening as possible while he was on-camera.
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A real Alpha would have said “bring da movies and not cared what a bunch of Oprah addicts think of him..”
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“This is coming from a girl who is not afraid to admit that she found Osama bin Laden to be dead sexy.”
Wow, just wow … more evidence looks really [don’t] matter.
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They do matter, on a minor scale (although attitude is ABSOLUTELY more important). Osama bin Laden was extremely good-looking, especially 10-20 years ago, before he got all haggard.
Hitler, on the other hand, was not remotely good-looking. Nor does he have any sex appeal at all…at least not to me.
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But Hitler was a huge hit with the ladies. They put him in office.
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When a man has POWER or FAME, looks are irrelevant.
Thor
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Typical woman mentality: the man behind the massacre of 9/11 is the sexiest man.
Not to mention a devout Muslim who will make his women submit, by force if necessary.
I propose the following metric for how alpha a man is: count how many people he has killed.
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I never used the superlative “sexiest”. I said “dead sexy”. And now he’s just dead, which is a great thing for the world.
Finding a man sexy is a lot different from actually *having sex with him*.
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@crumpetess On this site, and in game culture generally, “alpha” means a guy who has managed to get over approach anxiety. That alone allows him to get more pussy than the average guy who fears rejection. That’s all there is to it. Regarding the sociopath in the story, it’s not difficult for a man of any age to prey on emotionally vulnerable young women if he has no conscience.
BTW – An actual alpha male is a leader of men, plain and simple.
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Roark, thanks…yes, I’m realizing that “alpha” on here generally means synthetic alpha (i.e. hyped-up beta), not true alpha. All smoke and mirrors, really. Which is fine…each to their own. I’ll take my own genuine alpha any day.
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He’s a “sociopath” for wanting to fuck a tasty 18 year old woman?
You’re a dumb fuck. Plain and simple.
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Roark sounds like a “white knight”.
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As to the helplessness of 18 year old girls….Of course its from the wrinkled ID with enough differential pressure to implode a brick shit house in its rationalizing suction. The first place to be appalled by this exploitation of youth I would think would be the military where they are sent into a meat grinder. Bringing that up puts an end to it pronto.
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The funny part is, if this 18 year old cupcake wanted to start a business or go to law school or [whatever], the hoard of harridans would be applauding her empowerment and maturity.
But fuck an older man? She’s merely a child, taken advantage of by the evil Svengali.
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Her mom needs to buy a clue, at the Dollar Store. She called him a “master manipulator”. Umm. Her daughter got a 41 year old married man to leave his family. Who manipulated whom?
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“Who manipulated whom?” Good point.
According to the feminists and their White Knight lapdogs, men are always the evil manipulators and women are the hapless victims. Except, of course, when the women are behaving in a feminist-approved manner. Then they are being strong, independent, and empowered.
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Not true. I’m a femininist and I fucking encourage her. People should sleep with whom ever they want , plain and simple. Then again I’m also a feminist that enjoys this blog, so….
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Any man who prefers women who are younger than I am is a pedophile.
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A+++
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But it’s difficult for us to survive when we realize that most men prefer young women. ALL men, actually. It’s fucking disturbing. So it’s normal that we try to find some peace again. The only other option would be depression. Or living in a constant anxiety. I think we’re less attractive than young girls also because of our personalities. We’re anxious and depressed because we don’t have luck in love. Plus, we have to work. Young girls have no worries, no responsibilities and are therefore more relaxed. Which is very attractive.
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It’s fucking disturbing
it’s the natural order of things.
I think we’re less attractive than young girls also because of our personalities
but unlike your declining looks, your attiude and personality can be improved if you made a real effort.
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Maya, there is hope for middle-aged women because not all middle-aged men have sufficient alpha qualities to get much-younger women. This guy does, but many do not. But, you need to realistically asses your own smv and then settle for someone who is roughly equivalent. Otherwise you will have to live with anxiety. This is a human universal, which applies to both men and women.
You might not be able to get an alpha, but there are lots of nice betas to choose from. You need to have realistic expectations.
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You need to have realistic expectations.
you’re new around here, huh…
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“But, you need to realistically asses your own smv and then settle for someone who is roughly equivalent.”
What a shitty advice. Of course I’m not going to settle. I will get a baby through artificial insemination then (it’s so unnatural and a bit sick but my mental health is more important). Now I still have hope that someday I might convince a normal guy to fuck me (not very likely though).
“You might not be able to get an alpha, but there are lots of nice betas to choose from. You need to have realistic expectations.”
You’re really encouraging. What if I wrote “you might not be able to get a pretty girl, but there are lots of nice middle-aged single mums to chose from. You need to have realistic expectations”.
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“Of course I’m not going to settle. I will get a baby through artificial insemination”
So your ego is such that you would purposely screw your kid over by not giving him or her a father because it’s all about you. Well at least when your future son is doing time or your future daughter is dancing on the pole you can console yourself with the knowledge that you didn’t have to settle for some beta loser.
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For those of us men whose SMV is so low that even with game would be getting middle aged single moms AT BEST, we always have the option of hookers. We can always rent a 9 or 10 for an hour.
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” What if I wrote “you might not be able to get a pretty girl, but there are lots of nice middle-aged single mums to chose from. You need to have realistic expectations” ”
If you were to say that to a beta with mediocre looks, that would be realistic, yes. He would have to settle for a less physically attractive woman, you will probably have to settle for a less charismatic, dominant man.
The beta will either learn to accept and be happy with it or live in dissatisfaction. You will have to do the same.
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He is being nice. If a single guy is sitting around, complaining about not “settling” for less than the women he desires, his mates start mocking him to…his…face…right then about what an idiot he is.
“Oh, you won’t settle for substandard ass? ha ha ha Check out Jimmy, guys. He thinks he is going to date models, with his no job and fat guy. ha ha ha Jimmy, you are an idiot.”
Yes, that is what guys do. Gals? Not so much. So your last sentence is really funny, only unintentionally so. That is precisely what that guy’s *friends* would tell him, right to his face. And he would either grumpily admit it or laugh himself if it was on the mark.
That, dear, is a key difference between men and women: men mock any appearance of a possible hamster dash. Women encourage it.
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This is why I don’t have many friends.
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Thank you men for inventing the following
I can put my pleasure away ‘no drama required’
– Latex and silicone
-Presses and molds to recreate your anatomy for my pleasure as well as several others ; )
-Batteries…
Oh and last but not least drawers so when Im done fucking myself or my girlfriend
Because of all your wonderful inventions… I live my life to the fullest! Through the companionship of another gorgeous woman like myself, no alpha or beta required! Just Omega! So thank you, thank you… Did I forget to mention how greatful I am to all of you! Keep up the good work and inentions
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The counterpart is the beta male which is not something that seems to disturb aging women. I am sure its far worse knowing its karmic retribution rather than an injustice.
The best solution is the old one. You can’t be “a young woman” all your life, but you can be a younger woman relatively speaking. A good personality while being a loyal wife and mother to his children will give good odds and if you are 10 year younger he has to go 20 to make any real difference. And then if his wife is a decent person, it just does not make sense to upend his life. However a porky bitch his same age is a no brainer. Looks matter but they matter more in the beginning. That is why many men are bemused at women in their late 30s trying to settle with men their own age while also packing on the fat. There is nothing wrong with a 7 year old child either so long as they are not still in diapers. Older women hitting the clubs and trying to work it as they once did is as disturbing.
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I think we’re less attractive than young girls also because of our personalities.
To go through life as backward as this!
A fresh, lithe, white 18 year old body is, in Mayan logic, equivalent to her fat middle-aged black one.
Brilliant!
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Maya, accept the natural order for what it is and play to your strengths 🙂 It is easy to fall into a defeatist attitude, but older women have lots of things going for them. For instance, a good-looking older woman has proven she’ll look after her body and health. Its no small feat. Generally speaking, an older woman has more life experiences and is probably more stable. And the best feature of all: we’re appreciative! Everything men do for us is sweet and thoughtful.
Enough of this shilly-shallying, Maya. You’re getting quite an education here. Determine when you want to get married and start taking the steps to make that happen.
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An older woman who is still hot (long telomeres) is a better genetic bet for a man than someone like Jordan who might have short telomeres.
And men, even alphas, will subconsciously take this into account once they’ve witnessed how so many hot young ones turn out to have flash in the pan looks longevity.
Jordan’s mother isn’t that bad looking however, so Hooker might take the chance and start a new family with this one. It’s probable that her mother’s bad demeanor is more a product of feminism and frustration so I doubt Jordan would turn into a shrew like her if Hooker were to marry her and raise a new family with her.
He and she need to move away from Modesto most likely. They might also feel more at home in another country.
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Should listen to this woman, maya (you egotist.) She’s starting to learn. Maybe you can too.
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Starting? lol As the old Camel cigarette ads used to state, “Experience is the best teacher.” Once you’ve made all the mistakes you can, you can’t help but learn. Trouble is, I keep finding new ones…:)
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Learn to use your mouth like a pro and you can stop all that worrying.
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Problem: Only young girls put men in a loving mood. Older women want the love of men.
Solution: Breed billions of more young girls. 10 girls per man. Men will be in ecstasy. The love will flow. Older women will bask in the warmth of the appreciative men.
Example: The dance teacher from “Dance Moms” cannot find a man. She is simply too horrid. But she is surrounded by young girls, who men want. So offer the man, who will be her lifetime companion, an endless supply of girls of his choosing. She will have the suitors lining up.
If a woman does not have the goods, to attract a man, she has to acquire the goods.
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sounds like fundamentalist mormons have it all figured out. in some of these communities, the wives advise and consent on any additions to their polygamous families.
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Then I guess all of the men out there, based on that “theory”, are pedophiles, right?
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The article didn’t say anything about the girl’s father. Maybe the mom does not have a man in her life, and is jealous of her daughter who does.
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Father died when girl was nine. It’s in the text somewhere.
Thor
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Take it easy, ladies… I have it on good authority he was just using Jordan to get to her mom.
(BWAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAA)
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If I help the old hags shame this guy, and if I’m vocal enough about it, then maybe it will impress them enough that I can finally get some pussy from some
over-the-hill dried-up old prune. It’s not much, but it would be better than what I usually get, which is nothing. I haven’t gotten any for years, so I’ll really condemn this guy. Oh boy, I hope i get laid!
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Just throwing this out there, but if she were my daughter, I’d kill the guy.
Protection instinct and all that. Pretty sure I could plea-bargain it down to 2nd degree, out in 10 years.
Because I have a daughter who attends school, I can’t look at this in the same fashion.
And yes, I read the comment earlier about the dad being dead.
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Doesn’t seem to be a father in the picture here, does there? Explains a lot.
Your fatherly alpha example burns so bright that your daughter wouldn’t go for numbnuts here. Right? And you also knew the lay of the land and didn’t enroll your daughter at the wrong school. If not, you’re that makes you the nigga to steal on. Not our problem.
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You wouldn’t kill shit.
You’d sit there and jack off and wish you had the balls to bust young quim.
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Half Canadian – That seems to be a common feeling among fathers. But, she is legally an adult. At what point do you let go and allow her to make her own decisions? What if she was 30 and living with a man who was 60?
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I have a daughter this very age. I wouldn’t have any problem with this. I’d love it, actually. We’d go fishing and drinking.
If he ever cheated on her, though, I’d have his ballsack nailed to my front door.
That’s what fathers are for.
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And if she cuckolded him, what would you do to her?
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Thats not the equivalent. The equivalent would be if someone elses daughter cuckolded his son.
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That’s about right: as a father I’d be highly concerned about whether she was the only one he was seducing and what he thinks about protected sex. That would make an older man a better bet for my daughter than a promiscuous alpha her own age who thinks he’s invincible and has unprotected sex with other girls. Overriding factor would be his genetic status: high IQ and good build and good skin, etc.
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does your daughter wear one of them plaid skirts? Does she pull down the panties and store them in her purse when she gets to school?
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Thank you, sir, for that sublime and *true-to-life* image.
Excellently naughty.–
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Yeah, and you’d get your beta ass bodied along the way. Nothing to see here folks.
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“Every older husband — every fucking one of them — is turned on by the sight of hot women half his wife’s age. He imagines scenarios… transactions… with these younger babes, thrillingly vivid and the stuff of older wives’ nightmares, and no amount of religious upbringing, tortured self-abnegation, hypocrisy or womanly shaming will cleanse his mind of these delicious thoughts.”
Is it possible to get rid of this desire? What about men who have 3 or 4 children and have to take care of them? They probably don’t think so much about hot teenage girls?
If there is no way to make a man fall in love forever with one woman … Is it even worth trying? Knowing that after 3 or 5 years he’ll start to check out hotter young women …
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Keep your man happy and stop worrying about the mule going blind.
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Maya, for goodness’ sake…get out of here once in a while and round out your perspective on life! CH is interesting, to be sure, and often insightful, albeit often in a hyperbolic way. However, it is not EVERYTHING. Not even close.
Yes, of course it’s possible for a man to love a woman, for a lifetime. I’ve seen it, in my own family. More rare than we would like, perhaps, but possible.
However, it takes work on both ends. Hard work and effort. So…know what is yours to do, and do it. Take care of yourself, be confident, etc. Then choose wisely when it comes to a partner. Use the information here (as well as from other sources) to discern what you really want, and then go get it. As a sagacious Asian woman once said to me: “Half the world is full of men”. So get off of your computer, and go find one you want!!!!! If you’re yourself, and confident, and do the best with what you have, then you’ll be fine.
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“Maya, for goodness’ sake…get out of here once in a while and round out your perspective on life! CH is interesting, to be sure, and often insightful, albeit often in a hyperbolic way. However, it is not EVERYTHING. Not even close.”
I don’t need any other perspective. Very rarely I open a book or a magazine. I don’t need to – everything I need to know is here on CH.
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Well, that helps to explain the dumb questions and the fact that you’re alone.
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I hope that was sarcasm, or in the very least, you’re a troll trying prove Heartiste’s points by acting exactly the way he says women act toward alpha males.
Please, do read a book once in a while. Not a magazine (especially not one of those godawful crap “women’s magazines” like Cosmo). Getting more than one perspective can’t hurt you, unless you’re too feeble-minded to look at more than one idea and figure out what you believe for yourself. Remember, you don’t have to believe everything you read, so it’s not like reading something you disagree with will ruin you.
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Mimi, thanks for your comment but I really don’t feel the need to read anything else. I used to read books in the past but since I found CH (which gave me everything I was looking for) I have no motivation to explore other perspectives … I know you might think that it’s weird to be in love with an imaginary person but there are other girls who are in love with celebrities or even with guys that don’t exist (e.g. Edward Cullen). I can’t help. I’ve send him one photograph of my face and one where I pose in bikini and I’ve send him five e-mails as well but he never writes anything back 😦
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Goddamn women are so dumb I can’t believe it.
OF COURSE there are men who remain married to the same woman all their lives. There are even a lot who could have other, younger women if they desired. It’s called character, and you should screen for it instead of thug charisma/dick size/badassery, or whatever “confidence” passes for these days.
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“It’s called character, and you should screen for it”
Yes, “you” meaning young women should. And
they used to, by and large.
But there are several problems with this
reasonable approach.
ONE: It is quite difficult to do. Character shows in the
long run. Now, you can exclude obvious cads, flakes,
losers etc, but there is no good test for inclusion.
TWO: The media – and not particularly the
MSM that is sucked up by most people older
than 30 – but the media that cater specifically
to young women – bear much of the blame.
COSMO is the ringleader, but there are plenty
of others. The scenario taken almost for
granted is young woman dating (read: having
sex with) a man way above her level. And the
advice centers on how to “get him to commit”.
The best advice would be “date in your own league”,
but frying to get somebody to give up their
illusions/delusions does not sell copy.
THREE: The culture as whole, at least in urban
areas, is mainly attuned to the culture as
in COSMO.
FOUR: Young women today don’t have the
pressure to get married. (This is not a bad thing,
but it comes at a price.) Not only do they have the
backing of the culture, the adulation of Murphy Brown
(never mind that she was fictional) etc as per above,
but they have jobs (more weighted to government
jobs than the work done by men), they can easily
support ONE person on their salaries, and they have
birth control, abortion and welfare as multiple
back-up systems. So they don’t have nearly
as strong a need for commitment as their
mothers, not to speak of grandmothers, did.
Watch for Saturday’s WSJ, they will be running
an article on divorces after fifty. Will be
interesting.
Thor
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Screening for character is a test of time. You need to know someone at least a year and see how they handle challenges.
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Farkin’ A!!!
But since women don’t see *character* on their tv shows and Twilight movies, how can we expect them to know what it is?
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Gold clap.
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Its not just character. If you have two kids with your wife, and she is good to you, there starts to be a lot of self interest. I have an 8 year age gap with my wife. So to go younger I need about 15 years just to to make a difference. In 7 years I’ll be back where I started only after having upended my life. I get back rubs, hot meals etc. I suppose she is going to hit a wall in the sexual market place once I hit my fifties. I just don’t see the point.
Now when I see women aging badly who are about the same age as their husbands with bitchiness and entitlement to boot, life sucks already. That I understand. Its not marginal. All men don’t want the nuclear family, but a lot of them do. The problem is there is a lower risk option that is equally attractive and that is low investment humping lots of women. Women as a whole screwed up option #1. Option #2 is a sports career in romance where women retire at 40. I can’t imagine wanting a relationship with a 50 year old woman who I was not already with from her youth. It would never cross my mind. It would be 30 somethings or nothing.
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“I can’t imagine wanting a relationship with a 50 year old woman who I was not already with from her youth. It would never cross my mind. It would be 30 somethings or nothing.”
Cosigned.
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Goddamn women are so dumb I can’t believe it.
i can.
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What good is it when “Character” runs counter to their own biological goals and society gives the benefits all to the women and takes them solely from the men?
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Character, or a bloated puppy dog like sense of duty and devotion?
Humans do seem to have been bred into social castes, and some of us have an enormous, crushing sense of serving the will others, and consider this the only true moral good thing to do.
Others of us think such an attitude is unexamined at best, chumpish at worst.
If good character means a desire lifetime monogamy for the sake of being a good boy who thinks of others first, then I hope I’m never afflicted with character.
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“Character” is a slippery concept. One of its interesting properties is
that people often complain about the lack of character in somebody
else, but only VERY rarely of such a lack in themselves. All sorts
of privations have at one time or another been considered as good
thing, “building character”, but again, applied to others, not self,
99.xxx percent of the time.
And yes, it is often used as a concept by those in power to tighten
their grip on the fairly powerless.
But there is a large subset of “character” that I in fact totally
support, namely that of keeping your word. A contract is a contract.
However, even this fine concept can be abused, .e.g. when one party keeps defaulting on his/her end, but still expects the counterparty to perform. Contract law and practice and precedence is full of this problem, going way back. “Your honor, my client’s case is just like the case where a merchant in Manchester in 1387….”
Ayn Rand described this at some length in Atlas Shrugged, where Hank Reardan’s family, in particular his wife, utterly fail to deliver anything
of value – even love and appreciation – and Hank still feels bound
by his wows – until he doesn’t.
Thor
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“If there is no way to make a man fall in love forever with one woman … Is it even worth trying? Knowing that after 3 or 5 years he’ll start to check out hotter young women …”
After?
If you’re shooting for someone who has destroyed his own pair bonding mechanism then yes you = screwed and not in the good way.
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Hmm… Actually, what’s the problem? Women don’t cease finding other men attractive even if they are committed to one single guy (at least I don’t, but it never even entered my head to make anything more out of it), so if you’re worth being faithful to and he is serious about it, those thoughts won’t hurt you.
Quitting porn might help (for the guy). I found some sources recently that show that porn actually does lower a man’s satisfaction with his wife/gf (and sex in general), because he’s so focused on variety that porn gives, which can lead to ED, delayed ejaculation and not being able to cum during normal sex.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/cupids-poisoned-arrow
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There is a way to make a man fall in love with you:
You be his first(none of that technical virgin BS), and he be your first. And you be younger than him, treat him right and be someone he can count on (even closer than his friends).
You want to ride the cock carousel and dream of a love that lasts forever,
you pay the price for that.
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Maya this isn’t true about men always ogling younger girls after 3-4 years with their wife. I married my guy 4 years ago, together for 7, he’s 53 and I’m 45. I’m stretch marked and sagged out from having and breast feeding 5 kids. He has severe chrons disease. Neither of us want anyone else. We fuck almost every day, and he is still jealous if some other guy is eyeing me up. Not all men are like what you describe. Find a good one. Mine isn’t perfect and we have some ripping fights, but I’m not perfect either…..
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BFD. Except for the adultery problem, in 1800 such “December-May” romances this would be considered normal.
Yet more proof the guy is alpha: he was smart enough and careful enough not to get caught by jailbait charges. The feminazis and her mom rage, but they have nothing on him because she’s 18.
Given that I get far more IOIs from young women now that I’m 30 than when I was 20, I don’t have any sympathy for the aging feminazis.
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Except for the adultery problem, in 1800 such “December-May” romances this would be considered normal.
and in the present in some other cultures, the older man younger woman dynamic wouldn’t even raise eyebrows.
Given that I get far more IOIs from young women now that I’m 30 than when I was 20, I don’t have any sympathy for the aging feminazis.
especially when you consider that these harpies were the same women who wouldn’t have given you the time of day 10 years ago.
mother nature likes to serve her dish straight out of the freezer.
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The age of consent should be whatever age I happen to be, so that I won’t have competition from younger women.
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It is immoral for any man to have sex with a woman who is younger than I am.
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Guys should thumbs up some of the comments in the Daily Mail article about this. The manginas are out in full force thumbing good comments down:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2108725/Jordan-Powers-18-moves-James-Hooker-41-quits-teaching-job.html
Here’s Beta of the Month candidate named Esme from New Jersey:
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“Adult is never the word that springs to mind when I talk to 18 year olds at school. They still seem so young and should not be taken advantage of. I have one 18 year old who adores me. It’s lovely but I pretend I don’t notice. Would I ever take advantage? I’d rather rip out my own eyeballs.”
(*cringe*) Can’t you just hear the mincing and lisp in his voice when you read this?
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I think Jesus said something to that effect.
“If thy balls offend thee — say, in front of a flirtatious eighteen year old — rip out thine eyeballs instead so you can’t grope at it.”
Such men have internalized the Fear too deeply. It is the skewed logic of resentment (want young pussy) and sanctimony (punish self for wanting young pussy).
Sooner pound a thousand young unfucked pussies into quivering jelly than become martyr to your own backwardness, and slave to the proponents of shame.
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This guy has the sack to nail down this fine young piece and already betas and hags are swarming this post telling us “she’ll get tired of him in 3 years!” and “he’s not really alpha, duh, uh, duh…”
Guess what?
He’s fucking that sweet young pink pussy and supertight asshole and warm hungry mouth right fucking now and what are you doing?
Jackshit.
So I guess he’s sufficiently alpha for today, eh?
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Yea really.
I know I’m not banging a tight 18 year old with a deliciously neotenous face.
Any of you?
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Neither am I. One of my squirrels just turned twony a few days ago–the youngest. My, how deep I sunk! I hafta seriously consider there’s something wrong with moi, then say a few meow culpas and go huntin’ again (after I release the oldest one from the serail next year).
Truly theirs,
Tomcad
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as I’ve mentioned here, my SMV as president of a small marketing firm coupled with my 29 year old age and good looks has lead me to bang a 18 year old, a 22 year old, and a 26 year old this year that have been on my payroll. That’s not to even get in to the social circle girls I have on speed dial. This blog has helped me identify something I’ve been born with naturally and truly appreciate its value. I’ve also started adding additional game tricks i’ve learned here to my already-potent repertoire. My goal is to become the superalpha. I have been listed as a solid 9 in looks, I have a 146 IQ on the WAIS-III, and I hold a position of power as company president. Can I reach triple digit partners in the next 11 years (before hitting 40)? I think so. Doing it lifetime wouldn’t be as much of a challenge. But I think I can surpass that goal with game coupled with inherent SMV.
As far as “deliciously neotenous face” goes, I am of the opinion that a girl from 19-20 has the best body she will ever have. Some 18 year olds still look like children…but there’s something about that additional year or 2 that really fills a woman out in the right, estrogen-laden way.
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Dude she is 18, but a 7 at best. Especially in the realm of young, hot women, aged 18-22. Every woman out there has a fantasy of fucking a teacher, some make it a reality.
I don’t laud or applaud this guy. More like a ‘meh’ or and? They’ve moved in together, how romantic.
Alpha is a mindset, but it is also context and domain. Who know’s which one will bail, but 18 year olds want to experiment. This probably won’t last, and if they ‘stay’ together she will probably sample a ‘younger, stronger, more desirable’ man along the way…but still neither of them qualify as show dogs.
I’ve no idea how he is off-camera but doubt it’d be hard to cuckold him given the opportunity. She is young, dumb and desires to be covered in…
I get the point of this post but not all that impressed.
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Here’s the thing you’re missing: he probably wouldn’t have been able to pull it off with other students. There’s no indication that other girls were competing for his attention. He just pulled off a successfull one-itis. Exception confirming the rule.
A guy leaves his job, his wife and his kids to go live with a cute girl he’s in love with? That’s hardly alpha. Soon he’s going to ask her ‘Will you marry me? …please?’
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Dude,
she’s just not that fine.
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As was said earlier, if she were your daughter why wouldnt you be apologizing for raising such a homewrecking slut?
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You’re an idiot. She’s not a homewrecking slut! It’s him who promised his wife that he’ll stay with her and her children forever. There is no law that prohibits falling in love with an older, preselected man.
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Inciting a someone you know is married to leave his spouse, makes you a home-wrecking slut. Regardless of whether the guy is a scumbag or not. In a civilized society, his wife’s family (and her’s) would shoot him, stone her and leave the world a better place. But civilized has no overlap with our current dystopia.
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I agree with you that it’s immoral to flirt with men who have girlfriends/wives (I’m very careful about that myself and it’s very frustrating … Because all hot men are in a relationship … All good men are gone …) but it’s still his fault – he made a decision to leave his wife and children, it wasn’t her.
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Leaving your kids behind in a trail of “your daddy is a perv”-dust is his fault. Being a homewrecking slut is, in and of itself, a fault. Meaning it is somebody’s fault. And who elses cold it be but hers?
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You are a fucking retart
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Here older means younger than old? English is one fucked up language
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Context, my liege. Older than the women that are trying to get’ em.
Not that English does not lend itself to an occasional hilarium, but most of the lingos have their syntactic/idiomatic quirks here and there. I know six, so it’s from the first hand.
The only precise language that I know of (not know beyond its grammatical and syntactical structures) is Aymara, because it uses trinary logic, as opposed to any other that uses binary logic. It does not give its speakers any particular advantage, though, vis Evo Morales that I have no doubt is an idiot.
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Just be careful you don’t end up a homewrecker yourself, Maya.
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I respectfully challenge Heartise to check back in on this alpha of the month in a year or three. By then the young hottie who supposedly “adores” him will have left him (because that’s what sluts do) for some other, any other, man who is not a bespectiled, bald, unemployed, high school teacher loser. Where will Mr. Alpha of the Month be then o’ dear Heartise? Cleaned out from a nasty divorce ( as you yourself graciously admit he should be). Unemployable in his choosen profession. Likely hated by his own children. Do you serously think he’ll ever again bed a high quality 18-22 babe?
Please. He’s not an alpha at all. Much less alpha of the month. He’s a loser who used his position of authority over a young bimbo to bang the simpleton and convince her to move in with him.
Disagree?? Fine, then do as I say, follow up on the loser in few years. Bet you the young poon is gone and not replaced by anything even remotely as desirable.
[heartiste: you need perspective. he’s banging an 18 year old cutie RIGHT NOW. and will be for a while longer, at the least. that’s more than can be said for most men.]
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I agree with that. I’m sure he’s madly in love with her (she’s so much younger …). And she’ll probably dump him in a few years. I think he’s going to miss her …
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She is not really a hottie. She is a plain Jane. Her asset is her
young age, that’s all – but it is a lot.
Thor
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Okay, I was wondering if I was the only one to think she wasn’t anything out of the ordinary in looks.
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Well, GK, it seems as if all the other *women of a certain age* were “wondering” the same thing.–
I’ve watched video of this girl and I can tell you right now that all three holes are magnificent and are connected by the most succulent, springy, moist and tender teen sweetmeats imaginable. Yum.
True to say that she has a face that looks particularly good when you push your cock into the babyfat of her collagen-dense and wickedly smooth cheek.
A man can watch that particularly edifying sight for a long hour.–
Ill-named GeishaKate I want you to picture this fine man’s fat cock making a salutary little mound of obscenity every time he pushes it deep into the babyfat of her cheek.
Enjoy.
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n/a — are you King A’s evil alter-ego??
Whatever….I’m loving your posts !
Continue, please…
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n/a, you crack me up. So much, I’m willing to engage. They both look ordinary to me. But, then, most people do. Since my comment, I watched the video. My opinion remains unchanged. As a high school teacher, I see many beautiful young faces, and so would he. There is much more to this story than her face.
I could ask you why you consider me i’ll-named, but I’m sure you’ll tell me eventually 🙂
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She’s very cute, but that’s true of most healthy 18 year-old girls. Nothing special here.
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I had someone just like her in the fall. We started dating when I took her out for her 19th birthday and told her she was getting old (great neg).
By Christmas she was overweight. I let her down nicely and went back to an older woman with more stable looks.
Two weeks ago she introduced me to a younger friend of hers who will also look great for all of a few months. I’m wondering, why bother.
The answer, of course, is because, when they’re hot, they’re hot.
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Mark,
That’s like saying a slab of real dry-aged prime porterhouse at Peter Luger’s is “nothing special.”
It’s damn special when you’re sitting there eating it, blood and juice running down your smiling face.–
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My God this man is a messy eater. Would somebody get him a napkin, please?
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She’s just not the female equivalent of such a steak.
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True
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I wouldn’t bang her. Then again, I’m 29…not 39.
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Have to agree with jaspwr. You more alpha teachers have a romance like this every year with a new student. I’m not even sure I’d call them bona fide alphas because 90% of the work is done for them by virtue of their position of authority.
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Anyone remember a movie from the seventies called Pretty Maids All In A Row?
Of course, gay icon Rock Hudson played the Lothario teacher… (go figure)… and it turns out he was a headcase that killed the girls when they threatened to tell on him.
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She might leave? Men pay good money to prostitutes they know are going to leave. Sex now, is a bankable, funjiggilable ass set. Tomorrow doesn’t matter.
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Question, jasperger: When you are 41, will you be able to get a decent-looking 18-year old to leave her family and come live with you as you fuck her brains out every night? No? Would most men be able to? No? Well then, I guess alpha is as Hooker (heh) does. Doesn’t matter what happens in the future, the guy is having an alpha moment now.
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Isnt kind of an irony that when girls are younger they seem more susceptible to older guys’ efforts;they are in effect,easier when theyre younger and prettier.As they get older and lose the youthful patina,they smarten up and rasie their standards. Sort of an exception to the SMV.
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“Isnt kind of an irony that when girls are younger they seem more susceptible to older guys’ efforts;they are in effect,easier when theyre younger and prettier.”
Keen, wide eyed, unspoiled, fresh.
“As they get older and lose the youthful patina,they smarten up and rasie their standards.”
Smarten up transl. = more bitter, conniving, with expectations in a stratosphere, dried prune-like sheathing over their souls (if not over their bodies, later putrefacting with blubber)
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Who cares if he only bangs her for a few years? Those are her prime years as a woman! Most relationships end anyway. No big deal. Carpe diem.
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Exactly.
In fact this is my preferred lifestyle.
People will tell you that real love is not about that first year or so when you are in the romantic phase. Real love is about commitment an working on things through hard times. Duty, in short.
In that case, fuck real love.
I like that first year or two, with beautiful young hot romantic girls in their perfect prime. Keep em for just as long as those exquisite feelings last. Then move on an start fresh.
A rejuvenating springtime can happen in cycles until we die. There is no need to try to stop all cycles, and call that “love”.
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Yes, and he’ll be 46 and completely alone with no wife, job, and kids that hate him. But hey, carpe diem!
Honestly, some of you men have the same naive, short-sighted attitudes as the young girls wasting their youth on cads. Except that they’re not throwing away their families.
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Maybe his wife was a fat and stupid whore and his kids monstrous mindless ingrates.
Very possible, eh?
He lives once. When he is old he will chuckle with contented glee to remember certain bouts on the living room floor.
Oh, yes, she was wet and tight.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2082090/Girl-17-married-biker-aged-FIFTY-celebrates-years-wedded-bliss.html
And they said it wouldn’t last: Girl, 17, who devastated mother by marrying biker aged FIFTY celebrates five years of wedded bliss
One success story, here’s to Mr. Hooker’s happiness!
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No matter what happens in three years, the “aging loser” will still have had the experience of banging an 18-year-old hottie many, many times, which is an experience 99 percent of fortysomething guys DON’T get. Not for free, anyway.
My prediction: they’ll split up and he’ll find another woman closer to his age, but still younger than his wife.
Why do I say this? Because his current g/f’s mom **unwittingly made him a celebrity** and now he’ll have built-in groupies. Fame, as Kissinger once said, is an aphrodisiac. Yes, women will *say* they despise him, just as women said they despised O.J., Scott Peterson and countless others. Yet like them, he’ll never go without company — and my guess is company in the 6-9 range.
Oh and those alimony payments? The book and TV deals will probably allot him the cash to handle that.
Alpha.
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And regardless of his current understanding of women, it will likely improve. He’s obviously at least somewhat mentally flexible. He can learn.
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and this story is also why women are happier marrying men a few points down on the looks scale from them. It’s insurance against future competition. The guy will age, sure sure, but not as badly as the lady. Anyway, I saw the video last night of the couple, and without any audio or subtitles, it was apparent that the girl was smitten…and the guy was happy and his body language was indeed alpha. So, I guess it’s a big story because (a) the bitches hate the idea of a guy having his own lifetime television for women story eat-pray-love upgrade and (b) every guy salaciously is jealous but can’t admit it.
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“and this story is also why women are happier marrying men a few points down on the looks scale from them. It’s insurance against future competition.”
No. If a guy is alpha his average looks are no insurance against future competition. If he’s beta than women don’t give a shit about him anyway (unless he’s good looking and successful).
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Better for women to marry a man 15-18 years older than them. For most men following most career trajectories, that lines up their SMV decline ratio with that of their women, minimizing the kind of imbalance that makes stepping out tempting.
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that should be rate, not ratio……………
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Normally, I would say that the old fart has a 50/50 shot of closing the deal and marrying her. knocked up by 22.
The probs is that he’s unemployed and looking at alimony/divorce anal gang rape. This means too much stress and the relationship is going to struggle. 25% still together in 10 years with the pups.
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Why did he quit? From what I hear about these public school teachers, the level of turpitude required to get fired is quite high, let alone losing that sweet, sweet defined benefits pension. Especially in California. You know what, I think public school teacher should be the alpha-male job goal, just by being awesome, you can pull off what this guy did, year after year, and never get fired. Why try to get a real job that will kill your soul?
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and who knows…maybe his wife was a bitch to him. Good for him for leaving a cold bed.
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Meh, high school and college teachers are shooting fish in a barrel when they take up with their students. I don’t think they need to be very alpha at all. And I think the more alpha of them don’t friggin leave their wives for the student. They rustle up a new romance each year. I give this disaster about 6 weeks.
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Reminds me of a few years back, when Vanshitty was in a tizzy over student-teacher peccadillos from the 70’s and 80’s (of course). Young impressionable tarts would visit the “cool” teacher’s boat where he and some teaching buddies would bang them silly year after year.
Here’s the whole sordid, no, glorious account for the blog audience’s pleasure:
http://www2.canada.com/vancouversun/features/quest/index.html
Even at over 60 years old in the photos, he’s still a handsome man. And still married to one of the girls he shagged as a student 20 or so years before. And she still adores him. Now THAT is Alpha.
I myself remember 25yrs ago, hearing rumours of a teacher at myschool who’d knocked up an underage student and then married her. Then I saw the happy couple, kids in tow, at the grocery store a few years later. No real biggie, he kept his job, everything was kept discreet, no one suffered any lasting harm.
Herr Hooker is a situational/contextual alpha. It won’t last more than a few years, especially when the she-beast of a mother finally sinks here evil talons into him and good. Mom Powers presents herself as a some sort of Morrigan, truly terrifying. Jeebus, what a bitch. But as our esteemed host says, Hooker is living the dream of most men his age, drilling teen cooze.
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40 year old male teacher banging an 18 year old female student: pedophilia
40 year old female teacher banging an 18 year old male student: true love
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Thread winner (again?!)
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40 year old dyke teacher banging 18 year old female student: you go grrrrl.
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oh, and btw, jfk and clinton banged 19 and 21 year old interns. just saying, it’s not that this guy is “weird,” at worst he succumbed to temptation.
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You left out Elvis and his virgins.
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or the blonde that our host banged who was earlier a wee bit underaged when sexed up by the RHCP.
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More power to him. Hell, my father, at 42, married a 21 year old. She stayed with him to the end, 69, cancer.
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Poor woman – left alone at 48 is guaranteed to spend the rest of her life alone. Young women need to think long and hard before marrying men that much older.
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No. She will be happier than most women in their 50s to know that she was loved and a husband had died loving her. Those women who “smartly” married someone young enough to outlive her, will most likely see that younger man cheat on her…or the younger man will have been a beta whose early demise she might secretly wish for.
The “five minutes of alpha” rule also applies here. Having been married for 25 years to an alpha who died on her, according to evolutionary psychology, is a good deal for a woman. She will be fine spending her remaining years proud that she had been with an alpha who loved her and for whom she sired sons.
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People can die at any age. You can marry someone younger than you are and they might die before you do. It happens.
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Of course they can. But they are a lot more likely to if they are 20 years your senior.
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statistics
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Guaranteed alone at 48? Maybe slim chance of marriage, but surely with some effort a 48 year old could date some 60 year old for companionship.
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no, a 48 year old feminist harpie will spend the rest of her life alone.
a 48 year old devoted wife and mother who was by her husband’s side until the day he died is not doomed to the same fate.
think you can spot the difference?
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She should’ve cooked him healthier meals then.
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You have within you the blood of a champion. Don’t let down his memory.
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I’ll second that.
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[…] as well any suggestion that male dominance works, so long as it is the attractive alpha doing it. Calling men pedophiles is yet another form of denial. The concept of “white-knighting” is another form of […]
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I don’t mind admitting that if this ripe young fawn lived with me, I’d go on a panty-sniffing binge, the likes of which the world has never seen. ER doctors would have to surgically remove them from my sinuses.
And you know what? I’m okay with that.
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Older women just hate the competition.
That is why there is feminism that is a women’s sexual trade union.
If the older women get their way they would raise the age limit to 20 years old.
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Lets reverse the age-of-consent idea and make it illegal for women over 40 to have sex, because it’s too yucky.
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LBK FTW
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And then step two would be more limits on age differences, so that older married men could not have options with younger girls. Over thirty? No twenty year old for you! You belong to the sisterhood now, slave!
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will, they would raise the age of consent just above their own.
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1. Find fatherless girl who craves male approval.
2. Give male approval.
3. Profit.
She’s fucking her dad.
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100 % of girls have “daddy issues” and want to be led by an authority figure.
Pretty well every girl will get hugely turned on by a little Daddy role play. Just say “you’re Daddies little girl” while you are fucking her and notice the immediate flood of pussy juice. You can’t argue with a hard on, and you can’t argue with pussy juice.
Many men think that a minority of women have “daddy issues”. The female condition is a condition of being attracted to the archetype of daddy.
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6th time trying to get past spam filter –
You are talking about the subset of 100 % of girls.
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So it’s “alpha” to leave your children, fuck up your tenured career forever and get raped in divorce court all for a few rolls in the hay with some stupid young crotch-hole with daddy issues?
Nah. Alpha would be to bang the 18-year-old with the full knowledge of your subservient wife, keep your job, keep your kids and keep your savings/house.
BTW the ex-teacher’s whiteness is the only reason the whole Western world is reading about this. These kinds of scenarios take place all the time, I mean every f*cking day, but with a negro or mystery meat in the role of the “creep”, but then that isn’t a problem for The Tribe as such pairings fit right into its genocidal agenda.
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I grant that the “She’ll get tired of him” objection does not hold water (because who knows), but
– The girl was his student, not just some random 18-y/o cutie he picked up at a house party. More alpha than the rest of the faculty, but alpha simpliciter? No. Recall the part in Mad Men where Joan distinguishes between Don (who goes around picking up girls) and most of the other guys in the office (who sleep with secretaries because they are already higher-status than the secretaries).
– He made significant sacrifices to be with her. This is not alpha. Alpha would be her transferring to another school so his job was not at risk, keeping it quiet so his marriage was not at risk, and so on.
– He appears to have made a commitment to her, which is not particularly alpha. Granted, he hasn’t promised to marry her, let alone done it, but he’s moved in with her. The more commitment a girl costs you, the lower your SMV must be.
I would nominate this guy for alpha of the month if the story had been: Wife divorces teacher husband because he has been ‘graduating’ a new student as his mistress for the last 5 years. She only now found out about it because one of the girls went ballistic after being replaced by the new model (although he managed to keep lots of other girls from doing similar things).
On this other hand, points in his favor are
– his non-apologetic attitude towards the whole thing. He blames everyone else for a teacher-student relationship taboo.
– Also, the sacrifices he made might be seen as his willingness to go for what he wanted. Maybe his wife was too smart for him to get away with an affair, and there was no way he was going to work something out with her, so this was what he had to do and he did it.
– Finally, it takes two to commit. Did he have to offer her live-in-girlfriend status, or was he able to extract that much commitment from her? It’s not clear.
Apparently, the Mom is going on Nancy Grace. I’d say his grace-under-pressure will be tested adequately through national media coverage. If he calls into the show with the girl in his lap, her smiling at America, I’ll give you this one.
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I understand this sentiment. I can see how you could consider parallel monogamy to be more alpha than serial monogamy, which would be more alpha than lifetime monogamy. And more alpha than serial monogamy would therefore be a player lifestyle of continuously getting new girls.
However that’s not necessarily the case. Some people chose monogamy or a live in for a time, not because they don’t have other options, but because that’s the most satisfying of all options. For a time.
To everything a season. A live in who you are into can give a superior lifestyle to any other option. Or not. You can’t tell from the basic setup itself.
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Shooting his thick load in her teen mouth cunt and ass on the daily is sufficiently “alpha” to my mind.
Yes. More than sufficiently.
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I agree the mother of this girl is acting like an idiot. Her daughter is a home wrecker and yet she is trying to make her out as the victim. She should be ashamed and embarrassed about her daughter’s slutty behavior.
As far as this man being alpha, I think that remains to be seen. So far, he has demonstrated some alpha qualities, sleeping with a girl half his age, leaving a possibly loveless marriage, and quitting his job. Sleeping with a girl half your age, who likely pursued you, and has daddy issues, isn’t that alpha. He had the guts to do it, but I bet a lot of men would. He isn’t going to have a lot of people on his side, so let’s see how he handles it.
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Older man, younger woman. It’s accepted everyplace but in the Western World. I’m the same age as that teacher and prefer to enjoy the company of 23-25 year olds. Women my own age are not contenders for relationships.
But, I do question the organics of this couple’s relationship. Intuition rings this scenario wrong. A guy gives up his wife, kids, reputation and career – for a woman? I’d hazard a guess this fellows’ past is really sketchy. There’s a good chance he’s a clinically defined psychopath.
Bang all you want before marriage (to a foreign woman, never north american), but honour the contract once you’re in it. Get a divorce first if you are no longer happy with your wife.
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Saw this story featured on the O’Reilly show last night, and after Megyn Kelly was done ripping the guy for taking advantage of an innocent young women my wife told me about an 18-year-old girl in her class who had a year-long affair with the art teacher — she did the initiating and it was completely deliberate — he just did what most guys would do when presented with that kind of opportunity.
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I agree. But, you should read about the two guys out in LA who reported their former high school teacher to the police after she had trysts with them in her home. Talk about being pussified.
http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2012/02/gabriela_cortez_roosevelt_sex_students.php
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“James Hooker — the 41-year-old married father who left his wife and kids for his 18-year-old-student — might be the worst teacher ever.”
The media coverage of Mary LeTourneau was almost universally sympathetic or at least non-judgmental, as I remember it. Remember, if a man does it, he’s a disgusting pedophile, whereas if a woman does it, she’s empowered and liberated.
I agree the chick will likely ditch him in a few years at most and then he’ll have to move to Singapore or someplace to start his life over. He’s going to need Herculean quantities of alpha to dispel the inherent flakiness of an 18yo. OTOH, his sacrifice is well worth the sound of feminazis and bitter spinsters from California to the New York island lying awake all night and grinding their teeth. The man has done us a public service, I say.
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I agree that he is pretty alpha, but is not this the similar case of a woman who bores with the beta husband and leaves for the alpha guy?
I mean if he were actually single or married with no kids i would not have any problem, but what about the responsability of their marriage and, specially, his children? Is not this the same as a “Eat, Pray and Love” male version?
Anyway, i don’t know how his marriage and children were working, and maybe he was pretty miserable, but is something to consider.
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Ooh, maybe someone’ll make a movie. I’d actually go see that one. Too bad Hollywood would never make a good pro-man movie like that. Bastards.
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Responsibility to his “children”? His youngest is 17. One year younger than his adult girlfriend.
You’re reaching and stretching.
Responsibility – the main reason betas have relationships. Not fun, not joy de vivre, not because it feels good and makes you happy and life is better when you are happy – responsibility.
That’s the banner word for a beta – put it on your family crest and your tombstone.
I was responsible.
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“His Children”? You’re really stretching. His youngest is 17.
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“Why do you think women are so eager to rush into the nuptial shackles bond?”
Best of all, they still manage to convince themselves they’re being victimized.
http://www.boundless.org/2005/articles/a0001135.cfm
“The habit of viewing marriage as a raw deal for women is now so entrenched, even among women who don’t call themselves feminists, that I’ve seen brides who otherwise appear completely happy apologize to their wedding guests for their surrender to convention, as if a part of them still feels there is something embarrassing and weak about an intelligent and ambitious woman consenting to marry.”
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Excuse me? Women really do that?
If I were marrying a woman who did that, I’d dump her sorry ass right then and there.
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hardly alpha
what i see here is a scarcity-minded, unhappy, bored older guard who by some chance won a small-town lottery and, delighted with his luck, left his post to go shopping and eat some ice cream
why can’t he just fuck, be done with it and get some more?
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“to be legitimate grounds for the wife to initiate divorce proceedings and extract some type of payment for damage inflicted. ”
Well then perhaps he should be required to return part or all of the dowry. Even this is up for debate because he did put up with the hag for 18 years and did give her a child which I believe would fulfill the dowry requirements.
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“you suck, single moms! Way to be bad mothers!”
LOL- can’t wait for your Mother’s Day post!
If he were twenty-eight and single, it’d be a different matter entirely, although probably still worrysome for the mother. Honestly, I think any age discrepancy beyond a decade starts to get a little odd. The fact that he left the wife and children, well…
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I agree 28 to 18 would be appropriate AND ideal. But I think with age the ideal and appropriate age gaps widens, like a 40yo with a 35 yo, a 55yo, with a 35yo, and so on.
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The old rule of optimum used to be that the bride should be half of
the groom’s age, plus seven years.
Thor
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Good, Paul. Glad you have that opinion. Go for the 35yo and service them, thumbs up. I’ll have less competition for my favorite segment, between 19-26yo.
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My bad, I mean a 40yo man with a 25 yo woman, and a 55yo man with a 35yo woman
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[sarcasm]And we’re all quite concerned what you might find odd.
In fact, whenever I’m fucking a hot young girl, I’m always wondering what other people might think.
[/sarcasm]
One reason why it takes an alpha to pull off this move is the fact that the opinion of such a person as yourself would never make a tiny bit of difference to him.
Betas are all about what would the womenfolk think. What would mommy say. Oh my god the neighbors.
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Want to get a girl bound to you? Prove your mettle by fucking her in public. What would the neighbors think indeed.
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Honestly, I think any age discrepancy (sic) beyond a decade starts to get a little good.
2 decades better.
3 decades splendid.
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A woman leaves her husband to travel the world and fuck strangers, yet ends up with a book, a movie deal, and the admiration of thousands of daytime TV watching hags.
But a man leaves his wife to shack up with an 18 year old and he’s a sick, perverted, pedophile bastard???
Bullshit. If women can do whatever they want in the name of being haaaapppyyy, then why can’t this guy? I think he should write a book and turn it into a move: Teach, Quit, Fuck.
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well that’s because womyn (feminist spelling) are “empowered!”. I’m glad it was pointed out how the reported stated “Jordan, a quiet, fragile-seeming young woman, who looks closer to 15 than 18 years in age, gazed up at her former teacher, a man that looks every bit his 41 years, and said, “He’s more than just a lover.” They make him out to be a pedophile, child rapist. Hmm, looks 15? Must like little girls.
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Well he is gonna be outta a job, so this is actually a pretty good idea. Will be so controversial, and therefore sell millions of copies
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I’d definitely watch that.
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How many of you guys have actually read Eat, Pray, Love? If you have read it, you know that she had one relationship post-divorce before her trip. Then she went on a year long sex strike until she met her now husband. Her journey to learn to partake in life again was maybe accelerated by her unique personality and experiences, but I’d say bouncing back after a year is pretty successful.
Her next book (Committed: A Skeptic Makes Peace with Marriage) was a much more interesting book to me as it delved into the history and traditions of Western marriage. I can’t really account for the success of the first book nor the movie as I found them excrutiatingly depressing: perhaps only something only married people could enjoy?
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How about reading Boswell’s Life of Fucking Johnson and giving us your thoughts on that next time?
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I was thinking Gibbons’ Decline and Fall…
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I’ll put it on my list.
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She’s young for sure, but not all that hot. Adoring though is a big plus.
I’d only give her about a 6.5, 7 max. No 6.5.
I’m sure she was nowhere near the hottest girl in her high school class. But she was one who wanted an older “daddy” man. Which is kinda hot, but so would be her being hotter.
This might or might not last.
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And to those who complain that the man speaks with a gay inflection: alphaness has nothing to do with traditional masculinity. Its determined by who sleeps with the most attractive women. That’s why we have terms like “paper alpha” to distinguish the two different concepts.
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I find it funny that the mother of the young woman is attempting to smear the guy by pointing to texts he sent her just before she turned 18.
In case nobody else mentioned it, if the guy had been 19, then neither mom nor anybody else would say anything about it. It’s only because he’s “too old” that he suddenly becomes a “pervert” for verbally seducing (if not actually banging) a sexually mature but legally underage woman.
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A. He abandoned a wife and three kids. And she was the catalyst: vile conduct in both cases. No laws were broken, but a family was.
B. The betas who snipe at his voice and demeanour are missing the point: Voice and demeanour notwithstanding, this is no beta. And the only template for alpha is how many women want you: you can be anything from a Green Beret to a pussy emo singer. Instead critique his disgusting breach of the marriage bond.
C. If my daughter was being courted by her high school teacher, then unemployment and the disapproval of the community would be the least of his problems. Where were her family until now?
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“if he’s got enough game, forever.” – saw this confirmed in practice many times. It’s the girl’s fault, if it can be called a fault at all.
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When little queenie said on the interview: “He’s more than just a lover”, her momma must have shit a brick.
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He may go teach in a Mexican school. Then watch OUT!!!!
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I mean, yes she’s hot and yes, we’re all very jealous of this guy, but how stupid do you have to be to give up half of all your stuff + alimony + child support just for some snatch?
Admittedly it’s bodacious snatch.
But it’s pretty obvious that in this case it wasn’t the crypto-pedo professor who snared the innocent young child; rather it’s the conniving Lolita with a very serious Daddy complex who successfully bagged another woman–another mom’s–hubby.
He got it, he took it, because it was handed to him on a silver platter. I believe he’s not the seducer–he’s the seducee. Is it really “alpha” to be so desperate for the young stuff that you can’t say “no” simply because it’s handed to you–when saying “yes” means you are essentially paying half of all you own, more than half, by the time the divorce lawyers are through?
If all he wanted was some 18 year old snatch on the side he’d have been smarter to just bang a few call girls in the relevant age bracket.
Meanwhile, Little Debbie Snack Cakes kills two birds with one stone–gets back at her absent daddy by fulfilling her Elektra complex–and gets back at her own mom, by proxy, by stealing another mom’s man.
Those “adoring eyes” are strictly for the camera.
The irony of the “Lolita” scenario is that it’s the young girl who is the predator, taking advantage of the old man’s weakness–contrary to what the psycho-fem community would like to have it.
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Good point, except the idea of the 40+ male as helpless and, therefore, not in the same game league as the under 35 alpha players, is self-serving conjecture from the younger players, who in this case admit to being envious. Show some respect for your elders, especially if their partners are making you drool. 😉
It also fits the feminist playbook to imply the older men are socially inept.
Sure, apparently being a teacher means this will be handed to a man on a silver platter…which means every guy in America should be heading overseas to teach where the feminists aren’t screaming nonsense like “he was trusted!”.
Real meaning: “He was trusted to be a eunuch like America wants him to be”.
This guy would have been getting divorced anyway with his daughter only a year away from being an adult.
The only thing he may have given up that he wasn’t going to lose anyway, was if he was going to lock in a large pension within a few years.
Of course he could also lose his freedom now if the fascist state of California attacks him and prevails (make up of the California Supreme Court?).
He isn’t out of the woods yet.
Call girls would be the opposite of Jordan who is clearly clean as a whistle disease-wise: Jordan’s greatest asset is probably the virginity she had six months ago, which would make the guy feel comfortable going down on her, having unprotected sex and having another baby, which he said he wants to have.
Love the phrase Little Debbie Snack Cakes.
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“He got it, he took it, because it was handed to him on a silver platter. I believe he’s not the seducer–he’s the seducee. ”
one of my friend’s sister did exactly that, with a rich guy. at first we were all WTF!? he’s 30 years older than her and he’s not charming or anything special, but he’s got money and now she’s pregnant and I can already see the marriage followed by the divorce a couple years from now, and half of his money going to her.
at first we all thought he was the asshole who manipulated her and that he exploited her psychological weaknesses but now we’re finding out that she’s the manipulator and as much as I dislike the creep I think he’s just a beta who just took the bait.
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This is a good point. In the interview Jordan described James as, “more than her lover, he’s my best friend.” That sounds like something a woman says about her husband.
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Who is ‘Aging Feminist’? I love her, she’s hilarious.
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I’d put money on her being a man with a sense of humor.
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What an idiot. Giving up his life for a young twit? It makes no sense. Pussy is not worth that much, not even close.
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Maybe his marriage wasn’t worth much. We don’t know the back story.
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Giving up his life?
You really don’t like change, do you?
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Certainly not. But life isn’t always, or usually, a sober weighing of options.
Start at 1:13. You ever had a baby-face seventeen year old hanging on your package by her mouth?
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Yes! Yes it is!
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His life? Why, is he a mark or something (beside the howling harpys and noise making manginas that harpys look over the shoulder as they type their whiney replies)?
Maybe he did not want to be a teach anymore and carpe diem was his overriding prerogative. We don’t know much about his wifey and children, whether it was a hell or a slow grueling dying in the midst of frigid gray lansdscape.
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Hear, hear.
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I don’t think it takes an alpha male to date an 18 year old. Especially considering he’s exposed to girls that age all day. It’s bound to happen.
I does take an alpha to stand by his decisions i guess…but he’s no an alpha. He doesn’t move, talk or sound like one. Probably dated an 18 year old because he couldn’t get a more grown women interested in him.
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“Probably dated an 18 year old because he couldn’t get a more grown women interested in him.”
Could be.
Or it could be because of her tight, tanned and toned bikini-ready body, her firm breasts, her clean, untouched honey-sweet vagina and her non-cynical and sweet youngish demeanor. You never know.
[heartiste: lol. well played sir.]
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Haha! Touche!
BUT, dating an 18 year old is a whole lot different than just screwing one. I’m 25 and18 year olds grate the f*ck out of me. He isn’t exactly a guy who had abundance. If he did, he’d probably have chosen some in their twenties.
Chances are, he’d spent 10 years married to some dried up wench that had emasculated him to omegadom and he got LUCKY and caught a life-line when some 18 year old with daddy issues just happened to have the cojones to show him enough sexual interest.
As a single man, in the dating pool, this guy would eventually drown in his own sperm, alone in his room…nahmsayin
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“You never know.”
Exactly, he doesn’t–and never will.
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Watching the video, I had the same impression. He seemed weak and somewhat girlish. Not alpha.
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>implying old hags are more desirable than young hotties
white knight faggot detected
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Wouldn’t a more grown woman be easier to get interested in him, given her steadily decreasing SMV?
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“Probably dated an 18 year old because he couldn’t get a more grown women interested in him.”
Are you a 40 year old woman? Seriously, most guys would choose a tight-as-a-drum teenager over a cellulite-ass “grown woman’ any day.
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“Probably dated an 18 year old because he couldn’t get a more grown women interested in him.”
gtfo
18=legal, youngest, hottest, tightest
That’s prime pussy son.
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More grown women…???
D’oh! Just recalled my yesterday stroll through walmart. Sure. Apparently, some men have this preference, for an unfathomable reason.
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1. You mention that Mr. Hooker just quit his job teaching at the high school. Unless he’s a moron, this suggests that he has sufficient income from some other source to live on. And having financial resources is also a contributor to alpha appeal. Indeed, it’s a fairly good bet that that Jordan’s standard of living has increased significantly by moving from Tammi’s house to Hooker’s house.
2. Occasionally I hear references that European women age better than American women, including apparently sincere appraisals that a woman doesn’t reach her peak of beauty until age 40. This sounds wrong, but I’m suspecting that European women aren’t caught up so much in feminist doctrine, and so they spend effort cultivating their personalities and presentation *to be more attractive to men*, thus counteracting the decline in their physical appeal with an improvement in their personalities. Whereas American women seem to actually believe the feminist doctrine that they shouldn’t expend any effort to being attractive to men, and so must rely entirely on raw physical appeal, which fades fast. — All of which may or may not be true. But you’re in a far better position to test this than I am, and I am hoping to see you prove or disprove this bit of conventional wisdom in the future.
3. In regard to the daughters of single moms being sluts, this has long been known by sociologists. But it turns out that it is only the daughters of mothers that have been abandoned by their fathers — daughters of fathers who have *died* are no different than the daughters of two-parent families. Recently, somebody did a careful study to tease out the causality, and the evidence suggests that the cause is that women abandoned by their husbands are likely to be women who are more impulsive in major life choices (and hence more likely to marry unreliable men), and their daughters inherit that property. Interestingly, in this case, the father died, so the daughter isn’t (according to the statistics) more likely to be slutty than ordinary.
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#3 is interesting. That suggests that the fathers present guiding hand is not nurturing a more long term oriented daughter, but that regardless of what the dad does, daughter will do as is her genetic predisposition.
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Effin’ paedophile grandpa, good that the mom is going for a lock-up in Alcatrazz for life… Waaaait, isn’t 18 considered to be legally an adult age the last time I checked? Rather much straw-clutching to _prove_ that the pussy was indeed bounced before that date.
But, have to say that I don’t necessarily agree with the earlier notion that other young women wouldn’t eye couples with a large age difference suspiciously. Fortunately there are different responses but it may go either way.
A few years ago at the Uni, when working on my Master’s degree, I was going at a chick during a groupwork presentation/finishing lecture in the auditorium. We were on the same interdisciplinary group and she was a bookish landscaping engineer student 17 years my senior on whom I was hoping to lay finishing touches. Haha, funny. We were commenting and lightly joking (not that loudly either) with light kino-ing on her upper arm involved too. Then I noticed that one of the two girls of similar age in front of us started to turn every now and then to look at her for a few seconds, but not at me, with a neutral expression. It seemed that as if she was gauging/wondering how on earth my companion allowed me to flirt with her and enjoy it. After all, if one doesn’t follow the sisterhood rules and doesn’t make it a sisyphean effort for a man (especially an older one) to enjoy a young woman’s company, that surely cannot be tolerated.
And if I needed any confirmation that the issue was indeed my flirting and not the noisemaking: when my companion joked something with the “looker” in front and I joined in a light-hearted way, buoyed by the banter I had with her, those c*nts both gave an air of grave disapproval (as reserved for a Charlie Manson) and the other one in fact turned away with a look of utter contempt, as if I had been trying to pick _her_ up. No fear of that with the manly Habsburgian jaw of that leggy freak… Needless to say, both were architecture students too and are nowadays on a Career-building path. QED.
Similarly, as earlier in the evening I gave another, cutely buck-teethed group colleague (surveying engineer student this time) with whom I too had a rapport, a longish look of “hold those eyes”-type as a sort of farewell, her semi-cunty (although super-sexy and definitely intelligent) friend gave a microsecond-long look of disapproval, much more subtler but nevertheless another proof that it will depend on the woman whether she views the age difference favourably or not.
Two cents. Dollar or Euro ones, take your (ice) pick.
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“17 years my senior” ? That may make her a granmah.
A typo I presume.
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The fact that he’s ugly and a dorky loser has NOTHING to do with fact that he can only get a below-average looking girl who is starved for attention because she grew up without a father. HUGE accomplishment.
When the most attractive, rich, charismatic men: read high-quality men (George Clooney, Daniel Craig, etc.) start dating teenagers, then I’ll pay attention to the horse crap opinions of an author that’s trying a little too desperately to paint his own reality.
[heartiste: you’re hurting inside. i can tell.]
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Let’s remember that the elephant in the room is the “police investigation” that is going on right now.
Will a white knighter DA try to make some political hay by sending a squad car to arrest him? Isn’t he doing the rounds on national television as a way of making sure that American men are watching now in case the fems use their control of law enforcement to do something about this?
One of the videos showed a California Bar Association lawyer saying that the young woman’s 8000 text messages “didn’t pass the smell test”.
Apparently they don’t have the means to actually read the texts but an alpha would also have made sure not to incriminate himself (even if a 17 year old is legal where you are, be more careful in texting her than with other women).
If he is arrested now, it looks like the major media stations would allow Hooker and Jordan to outspokenly and loudly protest that.
That is what most makes Hooker an alpha to me. He’s preemptively warning the feminists that he will not take any punishment quietly.
He’s loudly saying he’s proud of what he did and arrogantly smirking in the faces of the fembots who think they control the police and DAs.
If he had not done the national media interviews, he’d have signaled to our enemies that they could swoop down on him and destroy him while nobody was looking. He’d have been toast like the other northern California successful businessman six months ago who was arrested for being friends with a 17 year old female (turned in by a middle aged female neighbor of his).
We’re going to want to keep tabs in this story and not let it go down the memory hole which is what happened to the Assange story on this blog.
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I was interested when you wrote, “He’d have been toast like the other northern California successful businessman six months ago who was arrested for being friends with a 17 year old female (turned in by a middle aged female neighbor of his)”. I googled for an article related to that and couldnt find one. Do you have a URL or more information so I can find it? Thanks.
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I can’t find it now either because the search terms I can use are too generic. He still has to face the issue of what happens when someone searches for his name, if that is unique. The guy may have gotten away with having only one article online because he kept his head low and did not do interviews.
He also may have gotten a good lawyer to get the Sacramento California TV station to delete their article about him because he may not have actually been convicted. The evidence seemed to have been text messages and the female neighbor’s charge that she was seen coming out of his house in the morning or something like that.
If one week goes by with more pressing news for the feminists to seize on, a guy who gets arrested for being with a 17 year old in California might get off with no more than one thing online that hurts his reputation. I would prefer that men do what Hooker has done, which is to proudly tell the world he’s done nothing wrong, but we all know that only riles the feminists up to drag your name through the Google mud.
Jordan’s mother forced Hooker’s hand on this by the way. She was going to do that Facebook page regardless, so he had absolutely no choice but to tell the world he did nothing wrong.
It’s in the interest of any individual American man that this sort of “news” happens every single day of the week, so the feminists and white knighters get so bored about it and those who want lots of traffic to their websites realize that nobody cares and nobody reads their articles about it being such a crime to have sex with a 17 year old.
It really is no big deal in other countries where it happens all the time (I’m having lunch with a 17 year old in ten minutes. Big fucking deal).
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Moreover, should this go through the state court system and Hooker were to launch a federal complaint about the state’s interference in the First Amendment “right to assemble”,
how would the 9th Circuit respond? The judges there tend to be left wing, except for Kazynski who is libertarian. Would the lefties there side with feminists? Maybe yes, maybe no in this case.
The only remotely similar case I can remember that went to the 9th Circuit, was when a 2:1 decision in the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the federal “Protect Act” in the case of a California man who went to Thailand and had sex with someone under the age of 16. When he appealed the lower federal court’s conviction, 1 of 3 appellate judges said that it was outrageous that, while the US federal government could not prosecute Americans for murder committed in another country, they could now put a man away for life if he had sex with a 14 year old in a country where 14 is legal. The other two judges denied the man’s right to an appeal and he’s rotting in jail to this day (the US Supreme Court didn’t have to touch this). This is not to say he didn’t deserve prison if he had sex with anyone 12 or under (I believe the guy was an actual pedophile), but we’re talking about legal precedents here such as the unprecedented right of the US to claim jurisdiction outside their own boundaries. This guy should be in a Thai jail if he broke the law there.
But the Protect Act is a federal law presuming to jurisdict over Americans not inside the boundaries of the US. The federal courts had to take the case once a prosecutor opened it.
OTOH, California’s age of consent and “person in authority” laws may not be something the feds can interfere with.
A matter like “Hooker vs Jealous Mom” might be rejected by federal court on the grounds that sexual activity inside an American state is entirely within a state’s purview. California and its feminists could then destroy Hooker’s life if they see fit and nobody can do a damn thing about it.
That means that alphas need to avoid or be careful in certain US states!
Florida seems to be particularly nasty in putting people away like the female teacher who just got 40 years prison for sleeping with a high school football player.
Her only way to save her life would be the Florida Supreme Court. If they are a bunch of ignorant hicks, she would rot in jail for the rest of her life with no recourse.
The same thing could happen in California with Hooker or anyone reading this.
Even Ron Paul would say “The federal government has to stay out of matters dealing with sex”. That could be tantamount to saying “Rot in jail, people, rot in jail”.
Now if a hotshot DA in Modesto shoots to bring Hooker down for this and the 9th Circuit (federal) did rule that they would listen to the concept that California was messing with Hooker and Jordan’s “right to assemble,” how would the US Supreme Court behave if an appeal went to them?
Would the Catholics Alito, Roberts and Scalia feel any sympathy for Hooker?
Remember that Scalia, Thomas ruled, before Roberts and Alito arrived and thankfully in the minority at the time, that the CDA had a right to arrest anyone who presented a video or image where the subject was 18+ but appeared to be younger, such as by wearing a schoolgirl outfit.
Scalia was OK with the idea that the film “American Beauty” could be declared child pornography.
It’s this concept that the federal Supreme Court should consider 18 to be some kind of national age of consent that makes Santorum a danger to PUAs. There seem to be enough “good Catholics” on the US Supreme Court.
But would Sotomajor and Kagan, both aging women chosen by the NOW, feel any sympathy for Hooker?
Just how potentially hostile is the US Supreme Court right now toward PUAs?
I don’t know the answer. Maybe we don’t want to find out.
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That is sanity so luminescent that it casts the ludicrousness of this society into stark contrast.
Dude still looks like a herb to me, tbh. He might be an alpha in this very specific, limited context, but he had the big advantage of being in a position of power and authority over this girl as her teacher for four years. I’ll bet she loses her lust for him pretty fast now that they’re technically social equals.
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Yup, Republicans on the attack against Hooker:
http://www.modbee.com/2012/03/03/2095017_p2/family-of-modesto-teacher-makes.html
Note in the above article how the pro-Hooker students at Enoch High School are being dismissed by the students being interviewed as “not representing us”.
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If Jordan had gone out and gotten a job as a stripper, that would not be news.
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I think this was not a very good deal for this man. The girl looks 5’6 and already 145lbs with only 18 years
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I had someone like this and this age six months ago who was in her final few months of being gorgeous before the baby fat turned to real fat.
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Lesbian teacher just arrested for sexual activity with a 17 year old female in Tennessee:
http://www.tennessean.com/article/20120303/NEWS03/303030033/Former-teacher-charged-statutory-rape
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This happened in Texas except it was a softball teacher over a span of a decade. None of the girls spoke up and then one came forward, they all did. I believe she only lost her teaching license but didn’t serve jail time. I remember a lot of the parents were allowing their daughters to hang out and stay at the teacher’s house. Truly a double standard if there ever was one.
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One aspect to this that is missing is that while the guy may or may not be alpha, the whole idea of the forbidden nature of the relationship, the fact that the girl would know that any outting of this would bring out community outrage has to be part of the turn on.
Chicks love attention and in this case, how else would a chick filled with entitlement but lacking attention get it?
She gets into a situation where she is the centre of attention, guy loses his wife, etc etc….
She gets to play the naive “love-struck” doe and then after this whole thing peters out and media attention wanes and public scorn fades, she’ll drop him, then find some other orbiters that she can brag about this styory to.
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Maybe 10 years ago or so, my wife would tape Oprah.
One morning, the VCR was doing replay, and I heard it
through the wall. Wife was asleep. I went in to the bedroom,
rewound the tape a bit and listened – and watched.
Base story, the now 15y.o. had had sex with her sports
coach two years earlier. She was prompted by Oprah,
and obediently reported how terrible it was. But intermittently,
her face lit up and she was clearly enjoying both the memory
of past sex and the current attention, licking her mouth etc.
Clearly, she would just LOVE to do it all over, especially if
it would get her another 10 minutes of fame on national television.
And everybody seemed – or pretended to – not noticing.
Thor
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I question whether this guy’s an alpha in the sense that we usually consider alphas. Although I confess having a biased view of this scenario, as I’ve personally seen it play out before. This one might be different; time will tell.
Alphaness is contextual. The guy who’s an alpha at band camp may be demoted to betatude once school starts again. Similarly, a teacher is far more alpha to his students than he is to the general population. In class he’s in a position of authority where students are expected to submit to him.
This effect is magnified by the limited scope of an adolescent’s social sphere. I’m assuming that much of Jordan’s social life was defined by her school experience, and James was one of the few adult males she spent significant time with on a regular basis. And as a teacher, he could easily dominate any competing males in her peer group.
Now the problem is how he can maintain his alphaness. If he’s a genuine alpha, then this won’t be an issue. If his alpha status was a function of his teaching position, then he’s in trouble. He’s no longer a teacher, and never will be again. She’ll never again see him in the context where his dominance first drew her in.
This guy doesn’t strike me as an alpha. He reminds me of several other guys I’ve encountered over the years who used their positions of authority to bag women who would normally be beyond their reach. The loss of that position resulted in a loss of rank and a corresponding loss of desire on the part of the woman. If he can keep her at home and dependent on him, then he’ll be fine. But God help him if she goes to college and encounters strong alpha males who aren’t subject to his authority and are skilled in the art of removing panties from women with bad judgment.
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I don’t think Jordan will dump him for another man. I think she’ll miss her mom. James is not going to be enough for her, emotionally. She’ll miss her friends and family.
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Chi-town
I was out with my current and an ex girlfriend the other day. I held up two hands, and offered them to choose one option. In my left hand, you can choose a bad boy who will make you cry. In my right hand you can choose a man who won’t make you cry but doesn’t excite you.
They both chose the man who would make her cry.
So don’t blame me next time I “make” my girl cry. It was her choice. That is exactly what she wants.
To do anything other than be a bad boy would be boring, and cause even worse troubles.
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That is an excellent gambit to run on a first date. Thanks. I’ll test this in the field.
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That is a bit of an extreme dichotomy. I wouldn’t want a nice, loyal girl who didn’t excite me for a life time either. Better a hot prostitute for 5 minutes. However offer me a 10 who is out of her mind nuts against an 8 with who has my best interests, and I’d probably pick the 8. I don’t doubt women make these same compromises because I see them do it all day. They don’t pick the worst asshole they can find. They will choose an ass hole over someone with no sexual market value. The key is one must have sexual market value and then some reasonable interface with the person in possession of it.
The real trouble is with our co-ed system which unnaturally puts same age children together all the way through sexual maturity. In 10 years, a 30 year old man and a 22 year old women are not going to be incompatible since they are generally hitting their peak at the same time. Women constantly complain their peers are immature…Men seem to go nuts over younger women. How is this so hard to miss?
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Hollywood occasionally slips and lets some truth fly.
In “Ocean’s Eleven”, Clooney asks his former lover, Roberts, if her new man makes her laugh. She doesn’t answer and instead informs him, “He doesn’t make me cry”
Who does she choose at the end? Clooney, the guy who puts her on an emotional rollercoaster.
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Who’s to say if an older man,young girl relationship will work? I met my present wife when she was an 18year old high school student,I was 36 at the time. It was six years later that we got married we’ve been married now for 21 years. A co-workers 20 year daughter married her 57 year old college professor that’s been about 10 years ago and they are still married. An assistant principal at the high school where I worked married one of his students after she graduated (he was a teacher at the time) they stayed married until his recent death. So like any relationship may last then again maybe it won’t.
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They will both get older, the girl will get pregnant once maybe twice. She will get bored with him in a few years. We will all have forgotten this as time unfolds many worse sins. The children from this relationship will have to face seeing their parents divorce. The young girl will think “What was I thinking!!” Mr. Hooker will end up married or hooking up with some else yet again and reminisce about his relationship with the 18 year old nativity of the young girl. Again, the biggest default will be left with the children from these relationships you didn’t get to have a choice in having a stable family enviroment.
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No. This is the feminist position, Darrell. When I was 41 I lived with a 19 year old and I left her when she got a little older and fatter. She still wants me back many, many years later.
Most women really hit the wall at age 23. CH says 28 because he lives in an ultra feminist part of the world where the force of the feminist will delays our perception another 5 years or so.
Almost always it is the man who gets bored and then just finds another 19 year old.
Maybe you’ve seen some women become feminists when the older man sends her through college and she takes a women’s studies course. I’ve seen that.
But, barring that and especially if he takes her out of the country to live, she will stick with him for as long as he wants her to be with him.
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‘innocent 18 year old girl’
oxymoron of the month.
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I’ve heard a lot women talk about how ugly they think this guy is, and how there is nothing attractive about him. Unless you are an 8 or above on the looks scale western women will judge you as being ugly and unattractive.
Hypergamy in action. All men who are not good looking are ugly in the western female mind.
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but as has been stated many times before, you can make up for bad looks (barring serious disfigurement) with game.
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Its only men who see this situation as advantageous. Every last one of you wishes you were him with an 18 year old girl available to fuck at your disposal. If it were your daughter would you be giving this creep the “high five”? y’all are so caught up in the sexual aspect of it that you can’t see the point. Proof that a mans brain is completely empty when all he sees is sex, all the blood flowing to the other head renders you so stupid thats its unbelievable. Thats why every last one of you are so easily controlled by pussy..its pathetic.
This dude crossed the line because he was her TEACHER. Damn the 18 year old aspect. We know she is legal and can do what she wants and with whomever she wants, but he was in such a hurry to be able to fuck her that he completely disregarded the boundaries that most civilized mentally stable people would never cross. She is so young and dumb that she probably thinks its romantic that he quit his job and threw his family under the bus for her. Not realizing that if he is able to rationalize doing this to his KIDS, then its quite possible that he could do the same to her if he ever gets tired of her. And since he was obviously thinking with his dick head instead of the head on his shoulders, its apparent that he did not think this through. He quit his job. First dumb move..he probably thought it was a good idea so he would not be accused of having sex with his student. But its more proof of how stupid he is because he let pussy come before his money. Yeah thats real Alpha thought processing right? How is he gonna support his new daughter/girlfriend, as well as pay child support for the kids he already has (not to mention if he gets stuck with spousal support). Her 18 year old mentality is not gonna understand all those grown up rules about financial responsibility when she wants tickets to the Justin Bieber concert and big daddy can’t afford em. And you know aint no school district gonna be beating down his door to hire him. Guess they gonna have to do the reality tv circuit, or maybe he can pimp her out to all the lonely dudes who think he is the shit now..
This had nothing to do with him being Alpha and everything to do with him being selfish, narcissistic and stupid. Check the ” don’t we deserve to make ourselves happy” line of bullshit. Following your heart and doing what makes you happy is reserved for career changes and risk taking in other areas. Not selfish pursuits that would destroy and cause devastation to those that are depending on you. And being able to get an 18 year old girl to buy your line of bullshit is not difficult, especially if that girl is needy. It would be different if he was beatin women off of him with a stick, then i could see the Alpha-ness. Pullin an 18 year old little girl that used to be your student that you already have authority over anyway does not scream Alpha to me. If he had met her on the street and still was able to get her to pay attention to him, then I would give him Alpha swag credit.
And lets not even start with what this is doing to his kids. That alone should have been the thing that stopped him. Its not that women are bitter and jealous of her or this situation. Its that we can see beyond our gentials and realize what this is doing to those kids. He actually has no thoughts about it and is completely oblivious to the impact of his actions on them. His own daughter goes to school with this girl for goodness sakes! Yet he is on TV smiling and cheesing for the cameras as if he has no remorse and has no thoughts for the humiliation he is bringing them..even if you get past the leaving the wife part, which its apparent that none of you care about the wife aspect either since you all have deemed most wives worthless when they age, at the very least can you respect the damage he is doing to the kids? Or are your dicks to hard to understand that as well..
Neandrethals..the lot of ya!
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[…] as well any suggestion that male dominance works, so long as it is the attractive alpha doing it. Calling men pedophiles is yet another form of denial. The concept of “white-knighting” is another form of […]
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From today’s WSJ.
For the whole article, buy the paper or subscribe to the e-edition.
“Though overall national divorce rates have declined since spiking in the 1980s, “gray divorce” has risen to its highest level on record, according to Prof. Brown. In 1990, only one in 10 people who got divorced was 50 or older; by 2009, the number was roughly one in four. More than 600,000 people ages 50 and older got divorced in 2009.
What’s more, a 2004 national survey conducted by AARP found that women are the ones initiating most of these breakups. Among divorces by people ages 40-69, women reported seeking the split 66% of the time. And cheating doesn’t appear to be the driving force in gray divorce. The same AARP survey found that 27% of divorcés cited infidelity as one of their top three reasons for seeking a divorce—which is not out of line with estimates of infidelity as a factor in divorce in the general population.”
Thor
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Haven’t had the time to read through all the comments so not sure if this is mentioned, but Hooker’s daughter is also a student at the same highschool. I’m sure every dad has the fantasy of banging his daughters hot tight friends but this is next level shit lol. He also resigned and lost his tenure along with his family. I’m happy he ditched his bitch wife but seems like a heavy payment for some avg puss.
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18yo pussy is not avg for a 41 yo man with his looks. In other words, the avg 41 yo man is not having sex with an attractive 18yo.
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The rule used to be: A woman should be half your age, plus seven. So a 41 year old should be with a 27 1/2 year old- about right.
A friend of mine is 51, and living with a 19 year old in a mansion. If the media found out, they’d go nuts. Her parents approve, actually, because she’s a Cuban-American girl, and that’s not so uncommon in their culture. His last girlfriend was a 48 year old widow with kids (still quite hot and bangable).
He hasn’t heard about this guy- he’ll probably get a kick out of this media shitstorm when I tell him!
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“The rule used to be: A woman should be half your age, plus seven. So a 41 year old should be with a 27 1/2 year old- about right.”
I’ve read this rule is about what society will find acceptable. A 41 year old which dates under 27 will start being frowned upon, more and more as he goes younger and younger.
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Actually, I missed a point. The “tradition” is that the bride should be
half the groom’s age plus seven years, i.e. when they get married.
And then they are s’posed to STAY married.
Thor
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So, would this guy be the omega of the month? Or just a really stupid alpha?
http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2012/03/02/alleged-robber-calls-victim-for-a-date/
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I’m no fan of Rush Limbaugh but wasn’t he correct to say that Ms. Fluke was asking the taxpayers to pay for her birth control items so she could have sex? She was conflating use of birth control pills for reasons other than preventing pregnancy with using pills and condoms to do just that.
Wasn’t she implying that a female college student’s health depends on having regular sex?
Why is nobody in the media asking or answering this question?
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Because facts don’t matter, only feelings. If a member of a designated victim group is offended, that’s the only thing that is important.
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I have not read all the comments here nor do I know any details of this story besides what is explained in the post… but leaving the wife & kids to live in with the girl seems pretty stupid to me (provided the wife was a good wife).
Of course I am biased: as a mother of two soon approaching 40 whose husband has a pretty artsy and interesting job… what I think is if a married man is going to have a relationship with a younger girl, he should keep it as secret as possible, keep it strictly sexual and treat the young girl as the cheap whore she is (she is proving she is a cheap whore by sleeping with a married man). Call me bitter if you must.
I have said this before: even if I still weight the same 50 kg I weighted when I met my husband, I fully understand that (almost) any woman younger by 5 years is more desirable than me. That this should be a reason to leave me and the children, is where I disagree.
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Once upon a time, a man wouldn’t leave the wife and kids in this situation. He would simply take the young girl as a second wife or concubine.
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So what do you expect with at-will marriage contracts? Women can and do (women initiate over 75% of all divorces, and even among 50+ women around 60% of divorces) divorce at will.
The Feminist movement got its wish — basically at will employment contracts morphed into marriage contracts. Any man can be dumped any time, the moment his wife feels he’s not sexy enough.
So zero loyalty on that side results in zero loyalty in the other side. Do I like this? Nope. But you’re asking married men to be super-heroic and super-self-sacrificing while demanding pure autonomy for the part of women. Not going to happen — women will get EXACTLY the kind of men they reward and create. You can’t call the bullet back, so get ready for more of this stuff. Just as outsourcing, contract-only employers find key employees job-hop like crazy. Want loyalty?
You damn well better reward it and enforce it, both ways.
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Some men would voluntarily stay with a wife who tried her damned best to shut the fuck up about his dalliances. Some smart wives even aid the husband in his activities.
There are many ways to build a stable relationship. Strict monogamy enforced by guilt and shaming is one way that works. But for some men, that will just cause a split, sooner or later.
I know I could never take any girl seriously who tried to keep my dick in her purse.
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Sandra Fluke is the epitome of a petri dish.
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I am an older woman (30), and I oppose this not because I think 30 year old women are more desirable or whatever.
Young women are meant for young men. Every young man should get a young woman, but only once.
Monogamy and community matter.
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This is a good comment. James is an average man, not a great one. Why should he get to dump his wife and monopolize a young woman, when better men than him don’t do that? I think James is a weak man who has greatly overstepped his bounds.
[heartiste: most men Hooker’s age, if they are honest with themselves, are thinking “if only i could overstep bounds like that”.]
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She’s an average girl, not a great one. Why should she be entitled to happiness but not him? Its all about men serving women in the female mind. You will never see us as anything but beasts of burden.
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Agreed. I look down on men like this, not because I secretly want them or am jealous of their 18 year old girlfriends, but because their values and desires of what they want in a partner become incredibly clear, and that doesn’t speak well for their character.
A man who values his partner almost completely for her youth/looks and not for her personality and her ability to connect with him on a mutually respectful, intellectual and emotional level is not what I would consider to be a good person. I might even consider him sick.
[heartiste: maybe the chick is mature for her age? maybe she emotionally connects with him? nah, couldn’t be….]
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“Sick.” Bwuhaha.
But yes, that is indeed the kind of (inherently indeed in a sense jealous) knee-jerk, feminaz thinking -induced reaction without even a smallest shred of actual knowledge of the sense of relationship and common interests. Of course it has to be a mentally retarded combination fueled by nothing else but the lowest of carnal lusts. All because an aging and in a way day-by-day more embittered woman has the “vibes” about the true nature of what she sees.
Seems that I fed a troll anyway. My bad.
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i bet his wife had a great personality.
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Women marrying men 10-20 years older is better for monogamy and society than your solution. My wife is 17 years younger than me and gets dirty looks from women like you all the time. Try it, you’ll like it….
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What is common today was uncommon historically. Young, unproven men were not worthy or resourced enough to start making babies. Women who marry men their own age at 22 right out of college are at risk.
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I’d have you cooking me breakfast, singing and giving me morning head on demand because I’ll make you feel like a woman. You’ll worship the ground I walk on.
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That’s all you women want to do, punish men from behind a facade of morality. Just admit it, you’re jealous that you can’t control men as you wish you could. Your attitude is one reason why you’re no doubt still single. Fuck you, you will never control us.
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You fuck girls like this, don’t leave your wife and kids and quit your job. This guy is a moron and asking for trouble. Especially now that its in the media. When she gets tired of this idiot he’s gonna be hard pressed to get another job as a teacher, a job which, if he’s anything like the vast majority of teachers, is the only one he’s qualified to hold.
Is having young hot things admire you, wanting to suck your cock great? Yes. But they do grow up.
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This is my take exactly. I think he’s a beta because he’s so proud of himself. An Alpha would take the situation as just another piece of ass. He caused himself some serious headaches over this this girl that he didn’t have to suffer.
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It really depends on the wife.
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I’ve said it a million times before and I will say it again. The ultimate predictor of success in sleeping with women is not Alpha Male traits (either learned or natural). It is not PUA tactics, nor is it pickup lines, wealth, style or looks.
The true predictor of success of any man is: CONTACT WITH WOMEN. Or, put differently, the quantity of women we come into contact with on a weekly basis.
That’s it. Bear with me, I’ll explain.
As men, each of us possesses a wide array of personal traits. From the way we look and carry ourselves, our mannerisms, style of dress, tone of voice, income, etc. Given this entire spectrum of traits, a man can then be assumed to be attractive to X% of women.
This differs considerably from a woman’s 1-10 ranking. Most guys will want a girl who is a 7+. So a 7+ will be attractive to nearly 100% of men. The same 1-1-10 scale cannot be used with men as women do not judge solely on looks or personality, but a WIDE range of factors.
So any given man is attractive to X% of women.
Take a multi-millionaire, GQ looking guy with an Alpha Male personality. He’s cocky and very confident, aloof yet charming, he knows how to tease and push-pull, makes $500,000 per year as CEO of his own corporation and is going to be attractive to 75% or so of women (A%=75).
(There are always going to be women who do not find such a man attractive, he is too much form them and they prefer the waifish poet or the sensitive ponytailed teacher.
The Sensitive Ponytailed Professor, on the other hand, lives in a hippy commune, grows his own food, earns $35,000/year and supplements his income by selling incense at the Farmer’s Market. He’s a bit awkward socially, freezes up around women and is only attractive to 5% of them. (A%=5)
Both men, however are attractive to women to varying degrees.
So, it is the number of WOMEN THEY COME INTO CONTACT WITH per day which will determine their success.
To recap, the GQ Alpha Guy can meet 100 women in a given week and 75 of them will be willing to give up their phone number, perhaps much more.
And the Sensitive Ponytailed Professor could meet 100 women per week and still 5 will give him their phone and perhaps want to meet up.
Imagine, now, the GQ Alpha guy, a business owner, works 80 hours a week. He’s up at 5am, in the office by 6am, works will 8pm, goes home and to bed. And also works most of the day on Saturday.
During this time, he’s in his office, sitting on his butt in front of the computer, virtually isolated all day long with the same 20 people (his employees).
Sure he makes bank, he is good-looking, his cocky-confidence is well known in the office. But he has virtually no contact with women, meeting only about 4 per week when the occasional saleswomen or FedEx girl stops by (and he charms her pants off.)
So, his Attractiveness % (A%) is 75% x 4 women/week = 3 women/week attracted
Across town, the Sensitive Ponytailed Professor works only 24 hours per week (Monday-Thursday), plus 6 hours office time (Friday).
He has the same students on Monday-Wednesday and the same students Tuesday-Thursday.
During any given one hour-long class, his lecture hall is full of 100 students, 60% of which are women. So any given class has 60 women between the ages of 18-25 years old.
He teaches 6 classes per day, bringing him into contact with 120, 18-25 year old women on Monday-Wednesday and 120 women on Tuesday-Thursday.
That’s 240 women between the ages of 18-25 who he comes into contact with PER WEEK!
Because he is fumbling and awkward, reeks of patchoulli oil and has zero game, he’s only attractive to 5% of women. However, 5% x 240 women = 12 women PER WEEK that find him attractive.
So GQ Alpha Businessman hooks up 3 dates per week, while Ponytailed Professor locks in 12.
Does this mean Sensitive Ponytailed Man is more “alpha” than the charming multi-millionaire GQ AlphaMale?
According to this site (which I thoroughly enjoy however dispute the whole “definition of Alpha” thing), the Ponytailed Man is more Alpha because he is able to snag more HB’s per week than the GQ Alpha Businessman.
The bottom line is that the more contact a man has with women during the day/week/month, the more women he is going to attract. Period.
This is why high school and college are prime times to meet women. Sheer contact with women day in and day out. No matter what your A%, you’re still gonna pull chicks.
Conversely, you can be the most attractive man in the world, and if you hide out all day in the house or office, you’re not gonna pull chicks.
PUA tactics, M3 Model, etc. does help with social awareness. But contact with women rules all.
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great comment
GQ Alpha Businessman will pull much badder women than Ponytail in his spare time though. He’s not going to slave away to bang a 7 every now and then. He will maintain a soft harem or wife and mistress, both 8+. It’s not necessary for him to meet new women daily.
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Great analysis. Explains a lot. I’ll never forget college freshman orientation when I was the only guy in the room. Even the female counselor (or whatever she was) was flirting. Golden days, man.
Just explain now how to recreate the situation where you’re again surrounded by hundreds of women after graduating college and we’ll all be set!
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no college professor teaches six classes a day
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+1
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My math was jacked up.
Should say, “he teaches 6 classes per day, bringing him into contact with 360, 18-25 year old women on Monday-Wednesday and 360 women on Tuesday-Thursday.
That’s 720 women between the ages of 18-25 who he comes into contact with PER WEEK!
Because he is fumbling and awkward, reeks of patchoulli oil and has zero game, he’s only attractive to 5% of women. However, 5% x 720 women = 36 women PER WEEK that find him attractive!”
Further proves my point that it’s a numbers game when meeting women.
So yes, numbers of approaches do really matter.
However it also shows how, in the case of Mr. Hooker, given an entire high school of 1000+ students, it’s only a matter of time before one single girl finds him to fill the Daddy role she’s been seeking.
That does not mean in any way he is “Alpha”.
If it does, then by that logic is Screech from Saved by the Bell an Alpha, too? According to many on this site, yes.
I say no. I say, because he was attractive to .0001% of the female population (A%=.0001) x 10,000,000 female Saved By The Bell viewers perweek = 1000 women/week it again proves that contact with women is the ultimate key to pickup success.
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quality based on age. wow thanks for the laugh monkey. 🙂 get help..the hotline. nstay away fr kids nasty old geezer creep thts just age inappropiate
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I mean wow, age of consent in California 18? And you’re considered a criminal if you go slightly under? Society has gone haywire. These are sexually mature women FFS. I find it funny how feminists are trying to legislate nature.
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“You may not like the character of such men, but a lot of women sure do.”
It is not that women “like the character” of these men, rather they are simply terrible judges of men’s character. Particularly the case among 18 yo girls.
[heartiste: a million years+ of evolution should tell you that women’s judgment of men’s character is pretty well refined.]
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What is the Enoch HS mascot? The Enoch Eunuchs?
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@sinhlovepavie
oh look another harpie with her head in the clouds
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Picture on screensaver. Check.
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Sexual therapist decides he’s a “sexual predator”:
http://gma.yahoo.com/california-high-school-teacher-student-romance-therapist-calls-083426952–abc-news.html
I wonder if she’s a dried up old hag that is “offended” by male sexual preferences. . .
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If this man gets railroaded we should have a donation drive for his legal defense fund.
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That same thought has crossed my mind, too. I’d be on board for sure.
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Just look for the shit-eating-grin/smirk: it’s the seal of alphatude.
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u mean..the dirty old man smile? 😀
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fucking gross thank gawd my grandfathter does not act like that. lol
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Whilst I am not against abortion at a practical level, because without it we would have been overrun years ago, I have no doubt that it is murder and it is wrong.
What amazes me and confirms your hypothesis about female fear and loathing concerning age different relationships, when the women is younger, is that the same feminazis who complain about this, would be picketing the State House, if there were a move to deny underage girls access to abortions without parental consent.
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Loose talk in the classroom
To hurt they try and try
Strong words in the staffroom
The accusations fly
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