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The Aloof Alpha Attitude Explained

March 8, 2012 by CH

Anytime I define the central attitude of the alpha male as ‘aloof and indifferent’, a chorus of trolls confused dweebs semantics nerds sincere readers wants to know if that means they should stand in a corner manfully ignoring girls until a girl falls in love with them.

Instead of allowing myself to get sucked into a nerdgasmic duel over definitions, I’ll just quote one of the best characters from pop culture history. This is all the definition of the aloof alpha attitude you need.

The attitude dictates that you don’t care whether she comes, stays, lays, or prays. I mean whatever happens, your toes are still tappin’. Now when you got that, then you have the attitude.

AKA outcome independence. Aloof doesn’t mean silence. It means unconcern for women’s reactions. Nonchalance. Which is not the same as avoiding any romantically-charged, sexually-escalating interaction with women.

Five purple saguaros to the first commenter who can describe the ‘Five Point Plan.’

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  1. on March 8, 2012 at 1:50 pm Jen

    “The attitude dictates that you don’t care whether she comes, stays, lays, or prays. I mean whatever happens, your toes are still tappin’. Now when you got that, then you have the attitude.”

    But that’s just NOT HUMAN.

    [heartiste: is bill clinton human? george clooney? your local frathouse president?]

    Everyone craves a connection, a friend, a soulmate.

    [no shit. an outcome independent attitude does not necessarily exclude a desire for connection. it simply makes the path of getting to that connection easier.]

    You can’t always be in control, otherwise you end up isolated and alone.

    [strawcunt.]

    What you’re describing isn’t alpha, it’s SOCIOPATH.

    [i’m sorry that your last bf hurt you so badly.]

    Why would you promote these dysfunctional relationships?

    [i promote delivering on what women want. what women truly desire. you may as well ask why women promote wearing makeup and staying in shape.]

    You need help.

    [yeah, abiding your idiocy is bad for my mental health.

    ps keep waving those empty creds!]

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    • on March 8, 2012 at 2:16 pm Jen

      But Bill Clinton and George Clooney aren’t really like that…

      [heartiste: what, they’re not incorrigible womanizers? of course they are.]

      it’s just the image they portray,

      [their string of women must have loved the image.]

      that’s also PR.

      [pubic relations… for lurrrv!]

      Also, they have connection, it requires them to care.

      [i feel your idiocy.]

      You clearly don’t.

      [translation: i clearly don’t care about you. i do, however, care about the women in my life.]

      Just look at your 16 Commandments on how to be a Sociopath.

      [correction: how to be the man women creamsicle in their panties for!]

      You’re beyond help.

      [that’s what my therapist said… after i pumped her full of rorschach.]

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      • on March 8, 2012 at 5:53 pm Black Rebel

        Presuming to know Clinton and Clooney, the inability to acknowledge what has time and time again proven to be true (women like dominant men), half-baked attempts at psychoanalysis and a touch of NAWALT and shaming.

        Would it kill Feminists to at least trying to argue in a different manner every once in a while?

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      • on March 9, 2012 at 10:34 am Thanatosis (@lmMirin)

        I find this new troll persona very entertaining, The intellectual inflexibility is captured perfectly in it. Looking forward to more JEN in the comments section.

        Apparently sociopath = person who doesn’t behave within an individually decided arbitrary set of behavior parameters, they’re handing out psych degrees to easily now days.

        Just because someone is doesn’t care about you, doesn’t mean they feel that way about everyone in their life!

        I’m arguing with the troll… too good, kudos to Jen~

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      • on March 9, 2012 at 1:03 pm nugganu

        Jen needs to get boned

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      • on March 9, 2012 at 2:52 pm Anon

        “But Bill Clinton and George Clooney aren’t really like that…”

        Monica, is that you?

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    • on March 8, 2012 at 2:25 pm The Shocker

      Translation: “I much prefer when men paw at me, buy me things and show me their emotional underbelly to get me to take my clothes off.”

      No, wait that’s not right.

      “I much prefer when I really like a guy so much I throw myself at him so we skip all that supplicatory gay stuff. You know, the kind of guy who has options and doesn’t care if I put out.”

      Oh, oops, that’s not right.

      “I much prefer my fantasy of how relationships are supposed to work.”

      There we go. Perfect.

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    • on March 8, 2012 at 3:00 pm Doug1

      Feminist troll.

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    • on March 8, 2012 at 3:11 pm Maya?

      Jenny, calm down. CH just has a fantastic sense of humor.

      [heartiste: a feminist and a rapist walk into a bar…]

      I know him personally

      [mom?]

      and I can tell you that he’s a very smart and loving person who would never hurt anyone.

      [i’m the moloko plus of puppies and kittens.]

      Besides, he has a lovely girlfriend and they are very happy together.

      [truth: i’m married with two kids. the readership despairs!]

      He’s a very normal guy, actually. Just too smart.

      [one can never be too smart. or too hung. at least that’s been my experience.]

      Next time, read his posts two or three times before you comment

      [practice what you preach.]

      – sometimes you need to thing about his ideas for a while and then everything makes sense.

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      • on March 8, 2012 at 5:55 pm GeishaKate

        [mom?]

        I can’t stop laughing!

        Jen, its comforting to not have a man be the emotional equivalent of a yo-yo. Dependability in that sense is very, very attractive.

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      • on March 8, 2012 at 6:34 pm Jen

        Maya, you need to get a life. I’m sure if he was a half decent, smart man, he wouldn’t choose THIS as his profession.

        Aloof alpha male equates to sex crazed sociopath here. Whether H himself leads that life or is just trying to make money from it, it doesn’t matter. It perpepuates loss of principles and integrity which other losers who take it word for word, think is ‘cool’.

        Really…if I wasn’t thick skinned, I wouldn’t have said anything here. Lots of men trying to put me down….but they have no idea what i can withstand. The great thing is, my life does not concern them. Let them bicker all they want.

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      • on March 8, 2012 at 9:42 pm Brent Crude

        A feminist, a misogynist, and a misandrist walk into a bar, and the bartender asks, “What can I get for you, lady?”

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      • on March 10, 2012 at 6:22 am Emma the Emo

        HAHAHHA! I’ll tell that to all my friends 😀

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      • on March 9, 2012 at 12:47 pm John McNeal

        I thought she was black…

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      • on March 9, 2012 at 6:01 pm GeishaKate

        [mom?]

        I can’t stop laughing!

        A man who is not an emotional yo yo is very comforting.

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      • on March 11, 2012 at 2:06 pm GeishaKate

        “and then everything makes sense.”

        -like stumbling upon the meaning of certain Hindu words

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    • on March 8, 2012 at 3:18 pm MZ

      Why do these stupid bitches even come here, let alone comment?

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    • on March 8, 2012 at 3:48 pm Anon

      I guess it’s in this blog’s nature that every now and then, a clueless snowflaking left-leaning bitch comes in here and tries to enlighten us by telling us how wrong we are.

      She is exactly the kind that needs aloof treatment. Let her hamster spin at full retard speed, and just lay back and watch.

      There are enough truths in the archives if she wants to educate herself.

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    • on March 8, 2012 at 4:08 pm Raider

      Jen, you’re obviously new here.

      Google “Dark Triad”. Study after study has show that the “sociopath” you mention is exactly the type of man a woman wants to hook up with.

      PUA’s emulate this behavior in order to attract women. They didn’t create the biology, they just take advantage of it.

      You’ve bought into the feminist fantasy that your intellectualism can trump your biology. It’s a fantasy that doesn’t match up with reality.

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      • on March 8, 2012 at 5:57 pm itsme

        actually, she’s not new here. she first started trolling this blog a while ago, then disappeared. she hasn’t learned anything during her hiatus. if anything, she’s become even more cuntish, but then again, that is the way of feminists as they see the wall fast approaching.

        what she really needs is for a man to dominate her. maybe hatefuck and drop a deuce on her.

        i wonder if there’s anybody here who would do that……

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      • on March 12, 2012 at 7:40 am LBK

        Depends on what she looks like.

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      • on March 8, 2012 at 6:24 pm Black Rebel

        This might be a duplicate comment, but Jen probably needs to hear most things more than once, so…

        We have presuming to know three men you don’t know, a clumsy attempt at psychoanalysis (Psychoanalysts usually need to know the meaning of terms like ‘Sociopath’ and ‘Dysfunctional’), the ‘woman is always the victim!’ trope (doesn’t this trope…y’know, go against Feminism?), the inability to acknowledge what has time and time again been shown to be true (women like dominant men…if women didn’t like dominant men, then they would not fuck dominant men) and dashes of shaming, equalist fantasy, ‘If something isn’t this, then it’s that!’ female brain-vomit and even a bit of NAWALT thrown in for good measure…

        Would it kill Feminists to try a different way of arguing every once in a while?

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      • on March 8, 2012 at 11:01 pm ow

        A good PUA can turn the psycho act off and on. He’s really harmless.

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    • on March 9, 2012 at 6:58 pm P Ray

      Jenny R Hao (JennyHao) wants guys to fall all over her.
      I guess in the her Dragon Lady Asian charms aren’t working so well, there in the UK.
      (I’m guessing that doesn’t make for a good bedside manner as well).
      P.S. I enjoyed the law and ethics workshop … did you?

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  2. on March 8, 2012 at 1:53 pm KillerQ

    1. Never let on how much you like a girl.
    2. Always call the shots.
    3. Act like wherever you are, that’s the place to be.
    4. Order for the both of you.
    4. Whenever possible, play Side 1 of Led Zepplin 4 when roughing her up.

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    • on March 8, 2012 at 1:54 pm KillerQ

      5!!. Whenever possible, play Side 1 of Led Zepplin 4 when roughing her up.

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      • on March 8, 2012 at 3:34 pm Stark

        6 – Or the alchemy live version of Sultans of Swing.

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      • on March 8, 2012 at 10:13 pm Fuckaire

        Actually, when you’re souging her, you should thrust to the drum beat of Kashmere. It’s got some fast heel/toe beats that should do the trick. Then throw in some double bass rhythm from speed metal to finish the song.

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      • on March 11, 2012 at 9:50 pm Nicole

        God you guys are old. Skrillex.

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    • on March 8, 2012 at 3:15 pm Kaywhole

      Men have died trying to obtain this valuable information

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  3. on March 8, 2012 at 2:03 pm Scrouds

    Fuck bitches, get money. Don’t know the other three.

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    • on March 8, 2012 at 2:46 pm Southern Man

      Do they matter?

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    • on March 8, 2012 at 4:50 pm Ben Runkle

      ^THIS.

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  4. on March 8, 2012 at 2:15 pm Married Tom

    Vic Damone was a genius, it just took me two decades to realize it.

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  5. on March 8, 2012 at 2:15 pm n/a

    1. Mouth

    2. Cunt

    3. Ass

    4. Face

    5. Colostomy bag hole

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  6. on March 8, 2012 at 2:17 pm The Shocker

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    • on March 9, 2012 at 12:27 pm Peacemaker

      Pam Grier is such a babe. Even in Jackie Brown, she still has that ageless beauty. I’d pull that blue flight attendant skirt up so fast and turn her into my drug mule without hesitation.

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      • on March 10, 2012 at 8:50 pm Greg B

        thats not Pam Grier. She’s Sally Richardson.

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  7. on March 8, 2012 at 2:17 pm Hecate

    Love Fast Times. When I was watching the other night, I thought of the Chateau.

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  8. on March 8, 2012 at 2:21 pm Sea7

    Demone was right. Unfortunately he later lost that Alpha status when he banged that fat bitch Natalie on The Facts of Life.

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  9. on March 8, 2012 at 2:23 pm crashintodeez

    The lady will have the linguini with white clam sauce and a Coke with no ice.

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  10. on March 8, 2012 at 2:39 pm DiamondEyes

    DAMONE the ultimate high school pimp!

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  11. on March 8, 2012 at 2:39 pm Socio

    Mike Damone had it figured out in 1982. Fast Times at Ridgemont High. Classic movie.

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  12. on March 8, 2012 at 2:40 pm Black Rebel

    1) Don’t face her directly.
    2) Eye contact when you’re speaking; intense, eye contact when she’s speaking; slightly sporadic.
    3) Acknowledge her friend(s) as much as you do her.
    4) Don’t give her the hard-sell if she declines giving you her digits.
    5) Don’t text or call her back immediately.

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    • on March 9, 2012 at 12:32 am George Garner

      ^ Solid. Better than original post.
      In #2, what did “slightly sporadic” mean?

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      • on March 9, 2012 at 2:39 pm Crank

        Look away occasionally while she speaks so as not to leave the subconscious impression that she has higher status, or, perhaps more accurately, to leave a subconscious impression that you have higher status. Dunno whether it works or not or whether it’s a big deal – I’m more concerned with making sure I maintain eye contact when I speak.

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      • on March 9, 2012 at 3:00 pm Black Rebel

        One of those things that isn’t paramount, but will change the game.

        By far the most important though is #4; I can’t even count the number of girls who after initially declining giving me their information, practically offered it up on a stone altar later. I’m not saying don’t persist if she says no, but don’t be schmoopy and beta; attack from a different angle.

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  13. on March 8, 2012 at 2:46 pm Redleg

    It’s a catch 22. The goal is to APPEAR indifferent to the outcome of an approach/date. Those seeking this website (myself included) WANT to get laid so we obviously care about the outcome. How can you PRETEND to be indifferent? How can you avoid rampant frustration? At first the concept was difficult to digest.

    But it’s sunk in now. Go out, be confident, have fun! The less you worry, the better the outcome will be. And that outlook eventually translates into changed behavior. Shit tests lose their bite and rebuttals will come naturally. You no longer risk becoming a beta orbiter when a girl you want to plow friendzones you; you just move on. Your energy is focused inward, towards personal satisfaction. People acting out of selfisheness are singleminded and bold. Audaces fortuna iuvat: fortune (and chicks) favor the bold!

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    • on March 8, 2012 at 6:22 pm sciencebzzt

      Its all about options. Once you truly have options, you don’t have to PRETEND. Girls can sense the pretenders. Practical application PROTIP: if you’re having trouble getting into the aloof mode, get laid by whomever you can, get the best looking girl you can get right now… a 4, a 5, even a 2… and then get another. That way, when you’re at the club or the bar, you really won’t be on edge, and you really will be indifferent. And like the man said, it’s not indifferent like you don’t want to get laid, its indifferent like she’s just one more girl you’d be fucking. Thats all it is.
      Work your way up, but keep fucking someone… that’ll keep you cool.

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      • on March 9, 2012 at 5:46 am Ian

        Work the ladder. Always good advice. It’s like anything, you push too hard too early you’ll come unstuck.

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      • on March 9, 2012 at 10:51 am Redleg

        Yup, the best way to avoid oneitis? Sleep with multiple women! As much as possible!

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    • on March 9, 2012 at 10:25 am DiamondEyes

      Also, as a benefit of all this learning about women, you get a good look under the hood. Their mystery is gone. Where you used to see an enigmatic sex goddess, you now see a shit-testing bar slut. Once that pedestal is gone, you genuinely don’t care as much whether any one girl likes you. And it shows. The results are undeniable.

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  14. on March 8, 2012 at 3:01 pm Lara

    Any woman searching for her soulmate is a princess.

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    • on March 9, 2012 at 6:12 pm P Ray

      Any woman searching for her soulmate while screwing around is a slut.
      Trying to pretend she’s a princess, by acting “holier than thou” towards men she isn’t attracted to (they will gratefully take cash, credit or goods though)

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  15. on March 8, 2012 at 3:06 pm Glengαrry

    Picasso: the life-long practice of alpha.

    “How Picasso who called all women goddesses or doormats drove his lovers to despair and even suicide with his cruelty and betrayal”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2111329/How-Picasso-called-women-goddesses-doormats-drove-lovers-despair-suicide-cruelty-betrayal.html

    Here’s my favorite from a great many examples:

    ‘Marie-Thérèse turned to me and said: “Make up your mind. Which one of us goes?” I was satisfied with things as they were. I told [my two young mistresses] they’d have to fight it out for themselves. So they began to wrestle. It’s one of my choicest memories.’

    (One of them wins, but …)

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    • on March 8, 2012 at 5:28 pm Trimegistus

      The girls would turn the color of an avocado when he’d drive down the street in his Eldorado. Though he was only five foot three, girls could not resist his stare. Pablo Picasso was never called an asshole.

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      • on March 8, 2012 at 6:13 pm Flahute

        Not like you (fade out)

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      • on March 9, 2012 at 3:05 pm Tyrone

        Jonathon Richman and the Modern Lovers. They only did two songs worth a crap- Pablo Picasso and Road Runner.

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    • on March 8, 2012 at 5:37 pm Capsaicin

      Picasso was short, as short as the average woman. Yet he had status, talent, and extreme alpha aloof game. If you’re short, crib from Picasso.

      From that dailymail story:

      “In fact, his main requirements of a mistress were that she should be both submissive and shorter than him — a somewhat stringent stipulation given that Picasso was a mere 5ft 4in.”
      …

      “She called him her ‘god’, kissed his hands and worshipped him devotedly. At first he was indifferent, but they soon became lovers. In 1961, he married her — first wife Olga had died of cancer in 1954 — though, his sex drive undiminished, he continued to take other lovers.”

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      • on March 9, 2012 at 1:13 pm John McNeal

        He was short…but hung like a Clydesdale. or so I’m told.

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    • on March 9, 2012 at 3:07 pm itsme

      it’s not cruel to give women what they need and crave.

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  16. on March 8, 2012 at 3:07 pm Jean-Luc LeGame

    This is absolutely true. If you have this and this alone, you will still improve your success dramatically. It happened to me long before I learned about game. For about a year I was easily and effortlessly attracting women.

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  17. on March 8, 2012 at 3:08 pm Diego Sigma

    always frame your interactions as if they are stories in the making. there’s an (invisible) script. and you are the writer.
    aloof = never, ever, ever! let them write the plot

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  18. on March 8, 2012 at 3:12 pm berg

    Is that a black dude quote?

    Great….game–teaching the white man how to be black.

    Oh joy Oh joy

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  19. on March 8, 2012 at 3:15 pm kidbourbon

    I think your readers were struggling with “coy”. Aloof is about the easiest thing in the world to understand.

    You hit on the girl without caring what her response is. It is both easy to understand and a vitally important part of game. Indifference to outcome says “your loss” to the female without you actually having to articulate the words “your loss”. This is sort of huge in that the the “your loss” idea is a powerful one, but it is decidedly unpowerful — and a touch pathetic — when actually verbally communicated after being shot down.

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  20. on March 8, 2012 at 3:20 pm kidbourbon

    Money over bitches
    I don’t love these hoes
    Get yours, nigga, ’cause ima get mine
    Ain’t no fun if the homies can’t have none
    Of my 99 problems, not a single one relates to the ever-dynamic vagaries of a female.

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  21. on March 8, 2012 at 3:22 pm AssNeck

    Dimone (or maybe Damone) from Fast Times at Ridgemont High?

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  22. on March 8, 2012 at 3:25 pm AssNeck

    “Why would you promote these dysfunctional relationships?”

    She’s right and you know it! Why don’t you listen to someone with a series of failed relationships and zero children/grandchildren to comfort her in her declining years?

    Someone like Gloria Steinem, perhaps?

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  23. on March 8, 2012 at 3:34 pm James

    Feminist cheats on her World of Warcraft boyfriend, hilarity ensues:

    http://www.applecidermage.com/2012/03/07/learned-helplessness-harassment/

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  24. on March 8, 2012 at 3:44 pm Anonymous

    From Fast Times at Ridgemont High

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  25. on March 8, 2012 at 3:58 pm Chris from Dublin

    The Five Point Plan:-

    (1) stop smiling except when you think it’s very necessary or unless your sense of humour won’t let you not;
    (2) think of your appearance – “are my clothes herb” and “where’s the nearest gym for me to do a year of heaviest lifting on my upper body” – the purpose of the gym being to either bulk-up or lose the obesity;
    (3) measure others in your frame – how they deserve you and not vice-versa. Think of others and never confine yourself to a uniform response, but only think of how your treatment of others helps your goals;
    (4) stop apologising for yourself;
    (5) learn how to say “shut the fuck up” and mean it.

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    • on March 9, 2012 at 5:51 am Ian

      I’m gonna look beta as fuck just approving of other peoples shit but I’m in a cab into town, no time.

      This. Good shit.

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  26. on March 8, 2012 at 4:17 pm Rex

    You DICK!

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  27. on March 8, 2012 at 4:29 pm BD

    Nothing captures what you are trying to say better than the following video. Check out how Adrien acts! Man, he acts like the fuckin’ air around him owes him a debt of gratidude just for letting it occupy his orbit.

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    • on March 11, 2012 at 9:58 pm Nicole

      It does.

      He’s the only Hollywood-Babylon White devil I would do if I had a snowball’s chance in hell.

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  28. on March 8, 2012 at 4:55 pm Joe the Bastard

    Khhaaaannn!!!

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  29. on March 8, 2012 at 5:02 pm soli

    People take these posts so literally. “Acting aloof” is a shorthand for being confident in your interactions as a result of a being unconcerned with how the interaction ultimately plays out. You have other things going on that are more important than the emotional fluctuations of a girl and her constant demands to be showered with attention. She has her little friendzoned guys for that.

    The day a woman becomes the center of your world is the day she stops respecting you.

    You shouldn’t really care if she likes you or not, because you have 3 others who are interested, and poker night with the boys Friday, and important things you want to accomplish at work. That doesn’t make you a ^^ sociopath or a control freak or not human, it makes you balanced, with priorities where they should be; on your life goals, career, friends, family, then maybe a girl, if she’s worthy of your time.

    These priorities are reflected in your interactions with a girl, and show that you are a strong person who is desirable because you aren’t like her beta satellite guyfriends. She actually has to prove herself worthy and work to get your affection. People intrinsically value things they have to work for.

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    • on March 8, 2012 at 5:31 pm geo

      Couldn’t have put better myself

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    • on March 9, 2012 at 1:15 pm evilalpha

      The thing is… I don’t think you need to read between the lines to understand “aloof”. The actual dictionary definitions are really accurate as in cool, detached, indifferent etc. How the “aloof” gets interpreted as “silent”/”passive” is beyond me

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  30. on March 8, 2012 at 5:05 pm Diego Sigma

    always frame your interactions like stories in-the-making. and you are the lone writer.
    aloof = never, ever, ever! let them write the plot ever

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  31. on March 8, 2012 at 5:14 pm Lara

    I think Heartiste point may be that you shouldn’t care about her until she shows she cares about you. I don’t waste my time caring about people who don’t care about me and I’m a nice person.

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    • on March 9, 2012 at 6:13 pm P Ray

      Every woman is a nice person until she meets a man who questions her certainties.

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      • on March 11, 2012 at 1:14 pm John Norman Howard

        I’ve never known this to prove false… well-put… the “nicest” reaction you’ll get is an indignant and dismissive “Whatever!”

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    • on March 10, 2012 at 8:32 am Lele

      Then you are not a genuine nice person. Nice people are not nice only when there is something in it for them. Yes, don’t be too eager towards people who haven’t proved their worth yet, but neither be indifferent. Don’t go the extra ten miles, just that extra one. But do go.

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      • on March 11, 2012 at 10:03 pm Nicole

        I’d go further and say that one should care about people sometimes even if one knows for certain they don’t care in return.

        Some folks need healing, and then there are the times when there’s just this sort of vibration. Once you truly love someone, it’s impossible not to be at least a little vested in their wellbeing, even if they’re a prick.

        Some people just need my distance more than they need my closeness, so that’s what I give them.

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  32. on March 8, 2012 at 5:33 pm Island

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/monique-honaman/i-just-wish-he-would-have_b_1297919.html

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sheryl-paul/the-grass-is-always-green_1_b_1281590.html

    same day. why can’t they just come out and state the obvious

    [heartiste: the dam is bursting. keep up the pressure.]

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    • on March 9, 2012 at 5:38 pm LostSailor

      I went to the first thread–the curse of the Beta husband; the women discussed were heartbreakingly clueless–and ventured a comment suggesting that feminism had made these husbands too nice and they needed to grow a pair and be more masculine. I ended by suggesting that feminism might not be an unmitigated good and we might be seeing some unintended consequences. I really toned it down and tread very lightly. I won’t anymore…

      The searing anger and hostility of two white-knight commenters in reply was breathtaking.

      Did you know that feminism rescued women from chattel slavery and allowed them to show their faces in pubic in this country? I must have missed all those burkah-clad colonial women in history class. You learn something new every day

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  33. on March 8, 2012 at 5:55 pm AHE

    1. “Oh hi, Debbie. How’s it going?”
    2. Something about side 1 of Led Zep 4
    3. a cool buzz and good waves

    i forget the rest

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  34. on March 8, 2012 at 6:16 pm Ouroboros

    @Island’s links

    That sort of shit legitimately makes me sad. I’m good with women and I learned a lot from this site but…I’ve always wanted to be married and start a family. I think it has come to the point where even being alpha is not enough. How the fuck can I find wife material with this sort of bullshit passing itself off as “women” these days?

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    • on March 8, 2012 at 8:04 pm Anon

      If your goal is to start a family in modern america, then you’re utterly stupid but you still can make it:

      If you choose a “nice girl” type with few LTRs (although I don’t know how you guys do it, I’m fundamentally incapable to bond with a non-virgin), who wasn’t in college and who isn’t the partying fun fun fun loving type.

      If you are/really became a genuinely strong alpha. But every morning, come to this blog and read the 16 poon commandments.

      If you have the upper hand financially. (don’t forget the prenup and the usual precautions).

      Don’t do it in a blue state.

      And if you end up doing it for real, then you’re more stupid than I expected.

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      • on March 9, 2012 at 5:54 am Ian

        It’s a problem. Homosexuality is a genetic disorder that only exists because homosexuals were long forced into child-bearing relationships. Similarly, alpha aloofness only exists because alphas were forced by lack of contraception and societal pressures into having children.

        Anything goes these days. The future is owned by child-loving betas. Unless someone changes the incentives we’re a dying, awesome breed.

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      • on March 10, 2012 at 8:37 am Lele

        The future long after you’ll be dead. Who cares? We go with what works while we are alive.

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      • on March 9, 2012 at 10:58 am Redleg

        It’s easier than all that. Look for the daughters of immigrants. They’re usually upwardly mobile, too busy to fuck around, hesitant to date frivolously and got the shit kicked out of them by their old-world folks if they acted like sluts or delinquents.

        There are drawbacks, such as them possibly living at home, or an onus against dating people out of their ethnicity. But they (and their folks) eat up beta provider traits, and they’re eager to settle down.

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      • on March 9, 2012 at 6:15 pm P Ray

        Daughters of immigrants are too busy to fuck around in public.
        Just because you didn’t see it happen, doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.
        They have to work hard to overcome prejudice against them, but once their credentials are approved you can bet they’ll be just as much trouble (they have friends from the dominant culture).

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      • on March 9, 2012 at 11:35 am Ouroboros

        Haha hey man, I know it is risky. I just always wanted to have a son, you know?

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    • on March 9, 2012 at 3:16 am Adam

      Religious chicks. Not ones that wear crosses and go to church but hardcore ones that will quote the bible with citation in conversation.

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      • on March 9, 2012 at 6:18 pm P Ray

        Religious chicks can suddenly become very scripturally oriented if they are looking for a way to turn down a guy, make it clear to him that he’s a creep if he tries to engage them in conversation, and make it out to others that they’re “religious”.
        They drop their pants for guys alpha enough, check their handbags for birth control pills.

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      • on March 11, 2012 at 1:32 pm John Norman Howard

        Virgins are often ever-so-eager to trim their wicks, as per scripture.

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    • on March 9, 2012 at 8:32 am KillerQ

      @Ouroboros

      You don’t have to be married and start a family. Enjoy the benefits of a committed relationship, but DON’T get married. As far as finding wife material, if you’re going out with that goal in mind, the quality women you’re going to run into will smell it on you and RUN.

      The ones who smell it on you and cater to it are the ones you don’t want.

      You need to relax.

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    • on March 10, 2012 at 8:43 am Lele

      > I’ve always wanted to be married and start a family.

      Bad. Good.

      Don’t get married. Start a family.

      Look for country girls, but never take them to the city.

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  35. on March 8, 2012 at 6:28 pm askjoe

    How about this, since we’ve used fake people as alpha analogs…The most interesting man in the world doesn’t hover, annoy, placate, or really bother the bitches at his table. The girls can have fun or they can listen to the story about how TMIMITW once wrestled a bear to save the queen of spain. He’s in the dominant seated position, as in any approach is made to him, not vice versa. He is fun (table service, stories, etc.).
    5 point plan:
    be interesting
    stay put
    pull them in
    ignore any feminine babbling (i.e., cooter troubles, boy troubles, money troubles, why obama is awesome, etc.)
    let them go but otherwise assume that the girl would just as rather give you a lap dance.

    Also, those huffpo pieces are just more attacks on marriage. It’s sort of sad, the career path of the SWPL moral-relativist status whore, suddenly reaching the tender age of 35 where their bargaining position is “I am a bitter older woman who will never get over my old flings.”

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    • on March 9, 2012 at 5:56 am Ian

      See Owen Cook’s latest video on rejection and pick-up average. Relevant. (rsd nation)

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  36. on March 8, 2012 at 6:31 pm Dr. Zoidberg

    As a former semi-chump (was mostly doing things right, just didn’t know I was until I started reading up on game), I just have to say if it works, it works. Last night I had a girl over for a post date sauna. She recently broke up with fiance so is quite timid about men. She was being defensive and it was real late so I showed her where the spare bedroom was and went to bed. 15 minutes later, she walked in and crawled into bed with me. Great night. Game works…

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    • on March 9, 2012 at 11:00 am Redleg

      Having a sauna at home can’t hurt your chances…

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      • on March 9, 2012 at 5:02 pm Lara

        True. I want to have one built in my backyard.

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      • on March 9, 2012 at 10:02 pm Dr. Zoidberg

        It’s almost like cheating. First, you have to be in nothing but a towel. Second, the heat gets endorphins flowing by just sitting there. Third, it’s just a small closet sauna so close proximity is required making keno escalation child’s play.

        Highly recommended addition to any home.

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  37. on March 8, 2012 at 6:38 pm Harkat

    So, I’m trying to get it on with this girl at my school and would like some
    experienced cheateau-goers to assess my performance:

    Let’s call the girl B. She’s a strong 7, I’d say, but she dresses very conservatively, so hard to tell: Always sweater, never cleavage or skirt. I like her face though. She seems pretty secluded from any major female friend-circle there. I mostly see her in study prep (aka do-homework-at-school-time), where she does not, unlike most other girls, kid around with a big group. She’s the shy, quite academic type. Loves music, plays piano, reads sheet music books for various genres.

    So far, I’ve been using light (but persistent) teasing (“that’s rude”, “you’re lying”, etc) and general cockiness, interspersed with displays of indifference and disinterest (gazing away when she’s talking to me, walking off to talk to another girl in the room without excusing myself, etc.). I genuinely find her quite interesting to talk to about music, people, books and so on, and I don’t really feel like I’m supplicating, even when I’m unaggressive, which is often.

    Today, I said hi to B with a slight smile and found her reaction a little too cold, so I promptly walked up to the hottest girl in the room – a classmate which I am on decent but platonic terms with, let’s call her E – and asked her to give me a backrub, right there and then. The day before, I had given a backrub to this hot chick’s friend, and I told her E had inherited the debt and owed me one. So she gave me my backrub, right in front of 30 other pupils, crucially including girl B, who I spotted looking at me. I think I handled that pretty well – I never acted overly grateful for the backrub or anything, passing it off with an unimpressed “yeah, it was pretty good” afterwards.

    So: I sat down at B’s table, and lo and behold, her tone had changed. She was very warm. I was still pretty soft on her, trying to be charming and make her laugh rather than intense or fear-inspiring. I did make her laugh a lot, and she always seemed slightly more interested in my words than I was in hers.

    So, dear Cheatau gentlemen, am I being too soft? I wonder if I’m merely exchanging boring beta friend-status for interesting, fun beta-friend status. Do I need to up the asshole? Is it blown already?

    Worth noting: I have asked her to “go out” twice, both times I was rejected because she “was moving houses” all weekend. She did tell me she was free at the end of the month though. Aslo, I’m 16 turning 17, she’s 17 turning 18.

    I’d appreciate some guidance.

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    • on March 8, 2012 at 8:15 pm corvinus

      No, you’re doing all right.

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    • on March 8, 2012 at 9:45 pm Ripp

      Harkat:
      You’re doing yourself an invaluable deed by focusing on personal development at such a young age. Keep it up my friend. Continue the studies and most importantly- the application of game (meaning actually execute in field and talk to women).

      Analysis:
      ONEitis. Text book. Any time, ANY time you are spending this much energy thinking about the reactions and outcome of any ONE woman, you are exhibiting ONEitis. You’re entire inner frame is bass-akwards. You’re making your hunt for pussy about her and not about you. Beta.

      Suggestion:
      Get her #. I recommend the “party invitation close”. Next interaction with her where you make her laugh: immediately after do this (with an assertive confident tone) “listen, my friend is having a party- you and your friends need to come. I’ll txt you the info later [ have your phone out and ready to enter #] so you’re a “123…?”. Close by starting with saying the area code as if you know it. She’ll then fill in the blanks. Txt her immediately with “cute outfit, i didn’t realize Walmart was so popular” then roll off like something else caught your attention.

      don’t txt her or talk to her or call her regarding this bullshit party you invited her to, ever again.

      Ignore her for the next week, at least, and work on #closing other women.

      Lastly, stop your shit eating smile around women in general and yes, crank up the assholery, big time. The uncaring “I don’t give a shit about anything except blowing my load in or on a chic” assholery. And they will love you for it.

      Oh yah, when women are young and inexperienced it’s the most easiest time to program them with what they think are sexual norms: do man kind a favor and make them swallow cum, do anal and don’t even think about giving a shit whether they cum or not. you prob won’t neIed to worry about that til college…and even then, eh…and take pics and video. Its so easy these days with smart phones.

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    • on March 8, 2012 at 11:24 pm Sh1nk3n

      Harkat, she sounds like a nice girl. Good for you. Now go fvck a different girl. Or two.

      Once you’ve done that, the nice girl “oneitis” will be out of your system, and if appropriate, you can revisit the “nice girl”. Here I am merely parrotting what Chateau has stated many times. I parrot here because his statements are true and need no personal embellishment.

      As for the “nice girl”, I use quotations, because in my experience any sufficiently motivated female will take actions that would make her parents blush. Which is as it should be, all good, natural, desirable, and wonderful. Don’t make assumptions. Keep in mind that she is flesh and blood and has desires and needs, and those don’t come safely and clearly pre-printed on the landing card, nor should they. Explore… press all the buttons.

      Based upon your story, you’re trying too hard with your lekking and quick-quick post-lek runs back to her for validation. Don’t beat yourself up about it: based upon your age, you are excused. But DO stop it. And DO put baby in a corner for a couple weeks, for good measure, as a re-baselining.

      Finally, don’t leave the house until you well and truly grok that YOU are the prize. I don’t think there is or can be a more important idea here, as your grokking of this will cause the attitude to manifest that is the only attitude (or at least a prime attitude) that will yield results. Menefreghismo. Outcome independent thinking. Enjoying who you are and where you find yourself. You’re here for you. You’re here for the ride.

      P.S. That you’ve already found the Chateau weighs heavily in your favor. Now the magic will be if you can find the gear between menefreghismo and “search and destroy”, and make this congruent with your persona. ¡Òrale!

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    • on March 10, 2012 at 10:12 am Lele

      Damn! I’m more than twice your age, but I’ll take you as my instructor right now.

      You are doing great. Do not confuse being aloof with being hard-ass. Women want to feel comfortable around you, just not too much.

      I think she’s having concerns because she is older than you. At your age, one year is a lot. That’s the reason she’s trying to gain time. Be persistent. Her having told she’s ll be free at the end of the month is a green light already.

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  38. on March 8, 2012 at 6:51 pm BTDT-55

    Mike Damone: I mean don’t just walk in. You move across the room. And you don’t talk to her. You use your face. You use your body. You use everything. That’s what I do. I mean I just send out this vibe and I have personally found that women do respond. I mean, something happens.

    Mark Ratner: Well, naturally something happens. I mean, you put the vibe out to 30 million chicks, something is gonna happen.

    Mike Damone: That’s the idea, Rat. That’s the attitude.

    Mark Ratner: The attitude?

    Mike Damone: Yeah! The attitude dictates that you don’t care whether she comes, stays, lays, or prays. I mean whatever happens, your toes are still tappin’. Now when you got that, then you have the attitude.

    There ya go –

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  39. on March 8, 2012 at 6:55 pm Thwack

    For the brothas, just say:

    “you’re cute, I would ask you out, but I don’t date white girls”

    WG: “Why not!”

    You: “its complicated”

    and then rope-a-dope the rest of the evening as she wears herself out trying convince you to give her a chance.

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    • on March 8, 2012 at 8:07 pm Paul Canter

      This works. Back in highschool I told this chick with blonde hair & brown eyes that was wayyyyyy out of my league that I’m only interested in girls with blonde hair and blue eyes. All the sudden, this chick that had no sexual interest in me became very intrigued, as if she had to prove herself to me. I drove her nuts that a guy like me would refuse a girl like her (she was a 9). She practically threw herself at me after that. Nothing ever came of it though because I was a beta fuck.

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      • on March 8, 2012 at 11:35 pm John Norman Howard

        You still are, glad-handing with a Negro about dating the women of your race.

        Worse than a beta fuck… a cuckold-fetishist beta fuck.

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    • on March 8, 2012 at 9:58 pm Ripp

      And if she can’t find you in the dim lit venue just smile wide and she’ll spot you in a second…

      harmless joke…deal with it.

      CH any commentary on black beta men? I always notice they dance like monkeys around their target and unload a salvo of cheesy ghetto fabulous compliments: “damn girl you be smokin’….heeba jooba babooba jooba…mmmm mmm, ”

      …the SWPL beta equivalent of pecking and groveling and buying drinks.

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    • on March 8, 2012 at 10:31 pm John Norman Howard

      Assuming they can even stand up again and recover from their laughter, after hearing a nigger say he wouldn’t date a White girl.

      Then again, maybe ‘cute’ was the keyword… the mudsharks that you chumps go for are usually the dregs of the race.

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    • on March 9, 2012 at 3:21 am Adam

      “you’re cute, I would ask you out, but I don’t date ________”

      Chick: “Why not!”

      You: “its complicated”

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  40. on March 8, 2012 at 7:32 pm Nutz

    The biggest mistake guys make with aloof game is nobody ever pulls the god damn trigger and would rather play it cool. So, how do you know when & where to stop being aloof and actually get your shit together and make a move? That’s the million dollar question.

    [heartiste: “kiss me. you won’t regret it”.]

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  41. on March 8, 2012 at 8:01 pm James

    I am a lawyer. I am often struck by the parallels between my attitude to my clients and the alpha’s attitude toward women.
    1. I’m busy as hell. Clients need my services, I don’t want for clients. If one client starts to be too much trouble, I put him in his place or dump him.
    2. Yes, I need clients as a group, but I don’t need any individual client. A client plays games with me, I tell him to fuck off, I dump him or hang up and move on to the next client who needs me.
    3. The clients know that my take-no-shit attitude toward them is exactly why I’m a good lawyer, because it carries over into my dealings with prosecutors. My clients see that I’m a good protector of their rights because I don’t even take shit from the person who’s paying me.
    4. My not-needing-any-individual-client leads me to speak to them with a savvy nonchalance that shows them I know what I’m doing. That instills confidence in them, that I’m a good attorney.
    5. Because I’ve represented a million clients, nothing any one client can throw at me (talking shit, questioning my advice, bitching about the options I present them, questioning whether I know what I’m talking about, telling me how to do my job) rattles me. I’ve heard it all before. I’ve got a response, a quick comeback, a smackdown for everything these idiots can say to me. Nothing, I mean nothing, rattles me. And they can sense that, so they stop challenging me.

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    • on March 9, 2012 at 1:36 am driveallnight

      aka Les Grossman Game

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    • on March 9, 2012 at 2:23 pm n/a

      Nice. But has it carried over?

      Many guys who have their shit together lose that same shit at the first sniff of pussy.

      Tell us your experience.–

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  42. on March 8, 2012 at 8:43 pm Days of Broken Arrows

    In other words, watch some early Clint Eastwood movies and pick up more than a bit of his attitude. Take it or leave it.

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  43. on March 8, 2012 at 9:32 pm anon

    Being aloof stands as the single thing that ever worked consistently over my 30+ years on the battlefield of love.

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  44. on March 8, 2012 at 9:47 pm BornAgainAlpha

    Here it is. One of my favorite clips.

    And one of my favorite albums of all time. Side one has Black Dog, Rock and Roll, Battle of Evermore and the best song of all time for groping girls at dances: Stairway to Heaven.

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  45. on March 8, 2012 at 10:14 pm Matador

    Revenge of the cuckold:

    http://www.whatsonsanya.com/news-20423-frenchman-blaise-fragione-38-cuts-off-love-rival-s-penis-then-flushes-it.html

    “Blaise Fragione, 38, admits that he knocked out the victim, named only as “F.”, with a blow to the head, severed most of his penis with a razor knife and threw it in the toilet.
    Mr Fragione says that he “lost it” after F. came to tell him he was having a relationship with his partner of 14 years and mother of his two children. ”

    I agree with the chateau that there’s no excuse for a cheating whore. If she cheats, just walk away. But that’s funny.

    “His former lover has returned to her original partner, whom she now plans to marry. ”

    Hilarious even. The spark of love has been reignited by the alpha gesture, even though the cuckold is facing 15 years in jail.

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    • on March 9, 2012 at 4:20 pm evilalpha

      I’ve banged lots of involved women, but not for the thrill/bragging rights but simply for the good poon. Having said that, what the hell is up with guys who confess or leave incriminating text trails everywhere. Penis meet razor. Ouch!

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    • on March 9, 2012 at 6:20 pm P Ray

      The spark of devotion from a woman you have to go to prison for to regain it, is not worth it.

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    • on March 9, 2012 at 7:03 pm James

      Fucking disgusting that they’re throwing him in jail. He should be declared a national hero.

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  46. on March 8, 2012 at 10:20 pm Sh1nk3n

    Amicos… è menefreghismo. Just follow Dino’s example, which is a somewhat studied form of menefreghismo (god love him).

    Must become outcome independent…. here for the ride itself… here to be one’s best, but only for one’s own enjoyment of that. Or alternatively (and equally likely) one is here for a scotch and a cigarette and all others can fvck off (or not) and that’s just fine and DJ fvcking play something that doesn’t suck. If others come along for the ride… ok, cool.

    It’s where Machiavelli meets Lao Tzu. Where one hand clapping meets one hand slapping on a fine female’s arse.

    P.S. Possibly a “post-modern” question, but, if one has to describe in detail what aloofness means, is that not counter to the concept? Zoom.

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  47. on March 8, 2012 at 11:35 pm crashedupderby

    ” i dont date black chicks”
    black chick, ” why not”
    “because your skin is the color of shit”

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    • on March 9, 2012 at 12:36 am Obstinance Works

      The smell is the worst thing. You’ll be taking 10 baths a day for a week to get that out.

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    • on March 9, 2012 at 1:26 am Anon

      Loser.

      Some black chicks pass the boner test just fine. I’m fucking this solid 8, a fine black bitch with big perfect tits (not the disproportionate areola sagging fat bags), flat stomach, perfect whr. A real nubian goddess.

      I agree with the political implications of racial differences, and the necessity to let social darwinism operate when it comes to black minorities…

      But the boner test doesn’t lie

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      • on March 9, 2012 at 4:33 pm John Norman Howard

        Loser yourself, asshole… just because the occasional Halle Berry octaroon comes along to inspire a rod doesn’t mean miscegenation is to be condoned… no real man suffers gladly the women of his race being pursued by lascivious outsiders.

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      • on March 11, 2012 at 10:21 pm Nicole

        He may not suffer it gladly, but this is the natural result of the widespread emasculation of men of one’s own race. If there were men doing their job in her own race, the only women who’d be mating out would be rebels/expatriates or slaves.

        Romance is a kind of first come first serve thing. I happened to meet an available, more intelligent, more stable and hard core loving Polish man before I met a Black man of similar quality, so I jumped.

        Mind you, he is Polish, not some Scythian from the mountains or something. So no White guy has any excuse for not being enough of a devil to go for what he wants in a woman.

        If all you want is to get laid and not procreate until you’re old then you don’t really have a dog in this fight. If you want a wife though, get crackin’. 😉

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      • on March 12, 2012 at 2:16 pm John Norman Howard

        What I want is a future for White children, and you well know, you swarthy, obtuse wo-manatee.

        This entails NOT being inundated by a rising tide of colour. So every time some dweeb starts singing the praises of all-ass/all-colours/all-the-time, my dog is in the fight, right down to its canines.

        On a side note: I thought you wrote earlier that you realized that some people need your distance.

        Well, I need you in that way, my negroid nemesis… give me your widest berth possible.

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      • on March 12, 2012 at 4:06 pm Nicole

        That may be what you want, my dear angloid androgyne, but it is not what you need.

        I am the embodiment of your fears.

        Your people are staring down the barrel of a future of me. Everywhere. With combined high intelligence and social dominance ruling you.

        Since you killed your gods and as is natural to do subsequently, killed your men, we will have no choice. It’s either that or end up in an entire nation of slackers and catladies just before the Islamic overlords take over.

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      • on March 12, 2012 at 5:02 pm John Norman Howard

        You’re the embodiment of too much KFC.

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      • on March 12, 2012 at 6:41 pm Nicole

        Better that than the butt sucker of too much KKK.

        You do realize that demonizing us is what got you into this mess. A demon is just about the most masculine, bad assed, big dicked thing the human psyche can dream up.

        If you calmed down and stopped advertising our men’s cocks, maybe your women wouldn’t be so hot to suck so many of them.

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      • on March 14, 2012 at 9:56 am John Norman Howard

        You do realize that demonizing us is what got you into this mess. A demon is just about the most masculine, bad assed, big dicked thing the human psyche can dream up.

        I never mentioned demons or the like… YOU however often talk of “White devils”, so you’ve got your own psyche, and fantasies of grosse schwantz, backfiring on you.

        If you calmed down and stopped advertising our men’s cocks, maybe your women wouldn’t be so hot to suck so many of them.

        And how it must gall you to no end, seeing the bruthas all over those White skanks, while the orifices of a quality sistah… such as you imagine yourself to be… go unfilled.

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    • on March 9, 2012 at 1:38 pm John McNeal

      Dude,…mean. I wonder tho if you see ahot,lets say a mullatto,and Ive seen a few amazing ones,with incredible ass and thighs and pretty faces,with the ‘toughness” way subdued and the femininity more pronounced,can u game them with “Raycizzum”??? Intersting. “I dont date black women…I think white men and black women are so alienated in this culture that it would be hard for a white guy to feel sexually satisfied by one..”

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      • on March 9, 2012 at 2:08 pm Anonymous

        …there’s an idea.

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    • on March 9, 2012 at 4:22 pm evilalpha

      You don’t have to date them, but if you don’t bang them you are gay!

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      • on March 10, 2012 at 2:39 pm John Norman Howard

        Feh.

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      • on March 11, 2012 at 10:26 pm Nicole

        Pick the plank out of your own eye.

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      • on March 12, 2012 at 2:18 pm John Norman Howard

        The only planks you have experience with are the ones blind guys have to strap to their backsides before they dare plumb your depths.

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      • on March 12, 2012 at 4:15 pm Nicole

        I see that many things about me are indeed too deep for you.

        Still, the people who waved the banner of feminism and multiculturalism like it was a good thing, and spend millions of tax dollars to enforce it on my people should probably not be complaining about the destruction it has caused.

        See, this is the problem with riding coattails. You are actually swimming under a spoiled, dirty whore’s skirt.

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      • on March 12, 2012 at 4:59 pm John Norman Howard

        You keep blaming YT for what the Jew overlords of the media and academia foisted upon this society.

        As far as foisting it upon “your people”, well… a mixed multitude of no-account men (who all-too-often serve as little more than a life support systems for ‘muh dik’) and brood mare single mammies would appear to already be entrenched in a form of feminism… the proclivity arising straight from their days in the jungle, where a village did the child-rearing, such as it was.

        Your depth is that of a parking lot puddle.

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      • on March 12, 2012 at 7:04 pm Nicole

        Self pity blah blah, not our fault, blah blah, the Jews, blah blah blah…

        I’m about to quote some Slipknot in a minute.

        Even if the Jews do control all mainstream media, it’s not the Jews’ fault you’re sheep. The Jews don’t take the money out of your pocket at gunpoint and make you give it to people who misuse it. Even if they did, it’s still not their fault you value your comfort more than your dignity and freedom.

        That is all on you.

        You want admiration for being born with a melanin deficiency or pity for being born with a conformity gene where your testicles should be? Make up your mind.

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  48. on March 9, 2012 at 12:12 am Uncle Elmer

    Again I cite ballroom dance as a key tool in forming the right attitude. If you fondled 30 young women the night before, the retail clerk who thinks she’s hot shit on a stick just doesn’t register with you, no pun intended. Numerous times I realized that some young lady was pissed off that I didn’t notice her, or just spoke to her in an unnerving directness like she’s some dude or a fatty.

    A pair of gabardines and clean, polished shoes complete the persona.

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    • on March 9, 2012 at 2:25 pm n/a

      Change your name to Uncle Alpha and lose the geezer and the wisdom you regularly spit will be heeded.

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    • on March 9, 2012 at 2:27 pm n/a

      And thanks for the “gabardines.”

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  49. on March 9, 2012 at 12:49 am George Garner

    Webster’s: aloof = “removed or distant either physically or emotional”.

    Perhaps the problem lies with the word “aloof” itself. It’s just not the best word to use in describing the alpha attitude and that’s what causes the confusion. So I’ve always been aloof – not due to game, but due to emotional repression caused by social anxiety.

    Hell if I know what a better one would be though. Inconsequential? Devil-may-care? Unconcerned? Chill? Actually, “Outcome independent” is much more explanatory, but it’s a clunky term.

    And yeah I’m a “semantics nerd”. Can’t help it.

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    • on March 9, 2012 at 2:32 pm n/a

      “Calm, cool and collected.”

      We’ve always required a few choice words for the dark triad’s signature guise.

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  50. on March 9, 2012 at 2:07 am Thwack

    on March 8, 2012 at 11:35 pm | Reply crashedupderby
    ” i dont date black chicks”
    black chick, ” why not”
    “because your skin is the color of shit”

    —————————————————————

    punk ass pink face alert.

    You sir, are a discredit to your race

    All I did was describe some pure aloof alpha game and you had to start hatin.

    what a shame.

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    • on March 9, 2012 at 3:22 pm whorefinder

      Black guys= always cry like little bitches whenever they are criticized.

      Go back to Obama, you punk ass little boy.

      Your race is a discredit to humanity.

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      • on March 11, 2012 at 10:25 pm Nicole

        Your “race” is responsible for the creation and funding of modern feminism.

        Enjoy your “progressive” high horse.

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  51. on March 9, 2012 at 3:11 am Dud to Stud in 10 Minutes « Touching Life With A Ten Foot Pole

    […] themselves. They claim that many men mistakenly talk too much, especially in the early going. Thus, “Aloof Game” works better, claims Heartiste for instance. Okay, okay, I’m forgetting context – I […]

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  52. on March 9, 2012 at 5:03 am YaReally

    I can’t control whether a girl likes me or not. But I can control whether I take action and approach her.

    Will I base my worth, confidence, value, state, self-esteem, etc. on the reaction I get? No, that would be silly. I’ll base it on whether I took action or not.

    Outcome independance: I’ll approach, because it’s important to me to take action. But if she doesn’t like me, that’s alright…and the fact that that’s alright is why she likes me.

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  53. on March 9, 2012 at 5:58 am walawala

    Five Point Plan:

    1) Confirm IOI’s
    2) Establish contact: neg
    3) Get number (Pull)
    4) Walk away (Push)
    5) Text “lets do [insert activity here] and meet up

    Repeat steps 4 and 5 alternating intensity as appropriate.

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  54. on March 9, 2012 at 6:14 am walawala

    Some things I do to remain aloof.

    leave party early and inexplicably.

    keep responses to texts light and short.

    alternate between revealing some details about myself….then not doing that for a while.

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  55. on March 9, 2012 at 9:08 am What It Means To Be Alpha : The Alpha Persona

    […] is independence.  It’s not that you don’t care what other people do, it’s that you’re fine not having the result you desired because in the end you aren’t dependent on that person or result for your happiness or well […]

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  56. on March 9, 2012 at 11:04 am jkklj

    Well I would say dealing with women is like playing a hand of poker or a game of bridge….

    Of course you are going to care about the result. But you aren’t going to care so much as if you bet your life savings on that one hand. Just know that you played your best, if you win the pot that’s good, if you lose too bad, if you made a mistake learn from it, it’s the long run that matters

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  57. on March 9, 2012 at 11:39 am Paulyester

    http://xkcd.com/1027/

    Don’t forget to mouse-over the comic for the alt-text

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    • on March 10, 2012 at 5:13 am AnonymousAlcoholic

      Funny thing is he already has a strip showing how the betas do it

      http://xkcd.com/513/

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  58. on March 9, 2012 at 11:39 am Anonymous

    Off topic, but I gotta post it: SPLC declares PUA’s “hate groups”

    http://reason.com/blog/2012/03/09/the-southern-poverty-law-center-is-now-w

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  59. on March 9, 2012 at 11:51 am H man

    You didn’t make the SPLC hate group list. I am disappointed.

    http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2012/spring/misogyny-the-sites

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    • on March 9, 2012 at 4:38 pm John Norman Howard

      Well, I held up my end.

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      • on March 12, 2012 at 2:17 pm Redleg

        No one is blaming you John. You did your best.

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  60. on March 9, 2012 at 11:51 am Anonymous

    1. attention
    2. interest
    3. decision
    4. action
    5. always be closing

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  61. on March 9, 2012 at 11:52 am Anonymous

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    • on March 9, 2012 at 3:24 pm whorefinder

      Alec Baldwin deserves to be raped by a gang of pygmies with knives attached to their dicks.

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      • on March 12, 2012 at 10:39 am evilalpha

        But pygmies have such little dicks.

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  62. on March 9, 2012 at 12:21 pm Peacemaker

    “sincere readers wants to know if that means they should stand in a corner manfully ignoring girls until a girl falls in love with them”

    Indifference =/= inaction.

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  63. on March 9, 2012 at 12:40 pm Gil

    The Aloof Alpha Attitude explained: Alpha males are highly desired by women and if his aloofness caused one women to avoid him he doesn’t care because he knows there are plenty of other women who will take her place. On the other hand, Beta males tend to be possessive because they fear if they lose the attention of one female then they’ll be alone for the rest of the lives.

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  64. on March 9, 2012 at 1:35 pm gregg

    aloof attitude is impossible to expain ´cos there is nothing to be expained. It is simple – if you have too much, you does not care. Of course betas and readers can not fully understand this.

    If you did manage to be in the skin of alpha just for a couple of hours, you would understand. He simply has too much pussy. Women are throwing at himself in workplaces, in train, in public, his buddy´s wife is clowning for him. He notices the admirable looks of the women – strangers. He KNOWS he could have them. ALL. And he KNOWS that they are ALL the same. They´ve lost their magic to him.

    Alpha is not trolling because he does not NEED to in the first place.

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    • on March 12, 2012 at 12:54 am Lele

      A description which is worth a hundred books. Thank you so much.

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    • on March 12, 2012 at 1:01 am Lele

      You are right that aloof attitude is impossible to explain. But your description lets us visualize and grasp it.

      Now I understand why my aloofness does not work well. I really don’t care, because I think about myself as the prize, and screen women, and know there will always be many other women left. Yet, I fail to attract women. After reading your comment, I understand that my aloofness has a different vibe than that preselected vibe an alpha exudes.

      Again, thank you.

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  65. on March 9, 2012 at 1:37 pm LP 999

    Men are men, alpha’s are alpha’s and aloof is aloof. Its all normal. It is shame that in 2012, we even have to debate the issue, as if, there is something abnormal with the alpha qualities.

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  66. on March 9, 2012 at 1:49 pm james

    The SPLC is now targeting “misogynist” websites, and the chateau is is not on the list. i’d be insulted.

    http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2012/spring/misogyny-the-sites

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    • on March 9, 2012 at 4:42 pm John Norman Howard

      That’s because most of you tolerate, if not outright congratulate, the shitskin clowns going after your women.

      Man up, YT… and get that SPLC badge of honor! 😉

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    • on March 9, 2012 at 4:52 pm Crank

      I don’t think they wanted to risk sending more people here – they might be converted.

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      • on March 10, 2012 at 2:26 am John Norman Howard

        Thread winnah!

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  67. on March 9, 2012 at 2:00 pm AlphaBeta

    There should be a new continuing theme of insights into alpha thinking. Maybe alpha quote of the month or something.

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  68. on March 9, 2012 at 2:01 pm CaptainAhab

    I gotta chime here. I was married in a rare sex marriage to a wife who did mostly nothing for years on end.

    It was only when I applied “game” and stopped being a sensitive spineless he bitch that not only can’t she get enough, the entire marriage is different. (And she lost weight)

    She cares, she doesn’t sit around anymore, we have sex constantly and you know what else?

    She used to give me a dry pity fuck every few weeks, now she gets so wet we cant do it on furniture for risk of having to scrub them afterwards.

    I talk to her and her juices start flowing. It’s amazing. She even giggles at my jokes, whether they’re terrible or not.

    I thought maybe it would be a passing fad, but it’s been 6 months now.

    Anyhow somewhere along the way someone forget to tell me when I was growing up women don’t want a nice guy because nice guys don’t have the traits that excite them.
    I was the classic “beta” provider, not anymore. I’m no ones mule.

    So in short I learned you only gain everything when you’re willing to throw it away. You need to keep that attitude.

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    • on March 9, 2012 at 8:01 pm James

      What exactly did you change?

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  69. on March 9, 2012 at 2:28 pm Nine Furies

    my experience has been that the aloof game works (outcome independence) especially well when you are trying to sexualize the interaction at every possible chance.

    So you are a sexual guy that doesnt give a fuck but if there is a girl in your line of sight you are definitely gonna entertain yourself by some teasing, playful sexualisation.

    ex..girl I been gaming keeps bringing up the “friends” thing and ive totally agreed and told her she is my secretary and that she must constantly hook me up with her friends and do other shit for me. She has taken this role quite easily and plays right back. While she is talking about we are just friends I am playfully grabbing her ass, pulling up her shirt to assess her stomach, to touch it and basically to do whatever the fuck i want because she is there to bend to my will. Her shit tests have been so pathetic I just keep doing the same shit. When she brought up the “but we r just friends so u cant grab my ass in public” last night I just verbally agreed while still grabbing it even more. Then I say well its ok because I am grabbing your ass in a very friendly way!

    I can feel her will bending with each interaction…more and more. So I just escalate escalate. Its very fun on my end to truly not give a fuck. Godam wish I woulda learned this shit while I was still in school.

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  70. on March 9, 2012 at 2:36 pm Crank

    I notice Heartiste didn’t make SPLC’s list of misgynistic superstars. Given the inconsequential sites on their list, I’m thinking they are afraid their donors will visit this site and conclude that Heartiste is correct.

    Also, if they are now in the business of fighting for feminism, how can they keep that silly name with a straight face. Nobody has more financial resources than the feminists.

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  71. on March 9, 2012 at 3:44 pm askjoe

    regarding the xcd nerd shit: PUA’s being dehumanizing creeps. No, people like Chris Brown are the dehumanizing creeps. Creeps that women throw themselves at. PUA’s are just trying figure out why.

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  72. on March 9, 2012 at 3:48 pm askjoe

    Oh wait, isn’t Roosh, um diverse? The SPLC must be racist, upset at scary brown people taking their white wimmens. The race card, suck it bitches!

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    • on March 10, 2012 at 2:32 am John Norman Howard

      Are you for real? The SPLC crowd has a holiday in their collective heart for every Heidi Klum.

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  73. on March 9, 2012 at 4:52 pm Adam

    Flirt for the sake of flirting, without considering happiness or distress, loss or gain, victory or defeat, and by so doing you shall never incur failure.

    -Bhagavad-Gita 2:38

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  74. on March 9, 2012 at 4:54 pm JohnnyV

    I find it interesting how people want to analyze and criticize the info put up here as a public service.
    The guys who got good at this only had a few things

    1. The balls to walk up to women and talk to them.
    2. The self esteem to not give a shit if it didn’t work.
    3. The intelligence to adjust or change what they were doing.

    Lather, Rinse, Repeat.

    They didn’t agonize over it. (paralysis by analysis).
    They just learned what worked, the long hard way.
    Why do magnets work? I don’t know, they just do.

    Gravity, same deal.
    What works, works…
    Try arguing around gravity because it doesn’t fit the way you think it should.
    I really do understand how some guys feel.
    When I first started learning this stuff I was full of “No way, they are out of their minds, women won’t like me if I am like that.”

    Societal conditioning has royally screwed up the polarities between men and women.
    Just watch some tv commercials.

    Do you need to be the Alpha man in charge of many other people?
    No, You just have to be in charge of yourself.

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    • on March 14, 2012 at 9:08 pm WotReally

      “I find it interesting how people want to analyze and criticize the info put up here as a public service.
      The guys who got good at this only had a few things

      1. The balls to walk up to women and talk to them.
      2. The self esteem to not give a shit if it didn’t work.
      3. The intelligence to adjust or change what they were doing.

      Lather, Rinse, Repeat.

      They didn’t agonize over it. (paralysis by analysis).
      They just learned what worked, the long hard way.”

      Fucking YES. Guys nowadays have no idea what the early PUAs had to go through to figure this shit out. Like they can’t even wrap their heads around it. They get all this pre-packaged info off the internet now and sit there spouting bullshit keyboard jockey opinions on what “would” and “wouldn’t” work.

      They don’t understand that we’re not subscribing to some idol-worshipping theories. Ya, Mystery Method has an official name since it’s been packaged for everyone to read, but the concepts aren’t Mystery making up his own theories, they’re what thousands of hours in the field trying a thousand different things have distilled down into that gets consistent results.

      But even with a pre-packaged set of concepts that doesn’t mean you’re not going to fuck up and it’s going to work on the first try flawlessly, you have to have number 3 above, the intelligence to adjust or change what you’re doing. If a thousand PUAs are telling you “teasing a girl builds attraction” but when you tease a girl it pisses her off, that doesn’t mean teasing doesn’t work and you should give up and become a hater, it means get some fucking self-awareness and logically look at why the way you’re doing it isn’t working and start adjusting till it DOES work.

      And when you finally get to the point where it DOES work for you? Ditch it and see if you can make it work WITHOUT it. Then bring it back again in a different way just to fuck around and push the boundaries.

      If walking around with your hand up your ass consistently got results, PUAs would be saying “walk around with your hand up your ass”.

      Tyler explains it all awesomely here. This is the voice of years and years and years of massive 7-nights-a-week experience talking:

      The learning curve for mastery of pickup is like 3+ years of humiliating embarrassing horrible public suffering. Guys nowadays think it should be 3+ months of magically having playboy models ask to suck their cocks in the nearest bathroom or they run around crying that it “doesn’t work”.

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  75. on March 9, 2012 at 5:54 pm Ulf Elfvin

    Off topic.

    Has anyone seen somebody this hot doing something this revolting?!

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    • on March 10, 2012 at 2:30 am John Norman Howard

      Whoring starlet is, well… whoring.

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  76. on March 9, 2012 at 8:02 pm Vagabond

    Surprised no one has posted this already:

    All About Morris Dees:

    http://www.zianet.com/web/dees1.htm
    http://www.zianet.com/web/dees2.htm

    The man is disgusting, but he sure is an alpha.

    Some excerpts:

    ” Early in the larriage, Morris gave her a book on “Open Marriage” and
    started encouraging her to have sexual intercourse with other men”

    “Morris and Maureene held a Little Theatre party at their home, attended by
    Dr. Rogers, a Montgomery physician, and his wife Judith, who is a
    criminal psychologist. During the party Morrisadmits that he took Judith into a back room of his house, while the party was going on, and had intercourse with her”

    “After supper, they had all gone to bed in sleeping bags, when Maureene
    woke up and found Morris and Deborah naked, having sex on the
    sandbar (R. 306). Morris turned to Maureene and insisted that she
    have sex with the other man.
    ”

    “Soon Charlie and Morris were in the bed naked, with Maureen in the middle with her gown on. Springman and Morris hugged and kissed, and Morris triedto get Charlie to have relations with Maureene, but Springman was
    physically unable to because he was not interested.”

    “Holly Buck, Maureene’s daughter by a previous marriage, is eighteen years old. Two months later, she was asleep one night and Morris entered
    her room from Ellie’s room, through the bathroom. He was in his
    underwear and he sat on the bed where Holly was lying on her stomach
    facing away from the door. He touched her on the back and woke her
    up. He told her that he had brough her a present, and he presented
    her with a vibrator. He plugged it in and said he had brought it to
    her. He proceeded to rub it on her back and said, “Let me show you
    how to use it”

    “Karen Sherman Dees is Morris’ daughter-in-law, who is married to Morris’ son Scooter (Morris, III) (R. 345).The Dees had Karen and Scooter to dinner at the house,and they cooked out (R. 346). While Scooter and Maureene were
    cleaning up and washing dishes, Karen and Morris went out to go
    swimming (R. 345). Five or ten minutes later, Maureene and Scooter
    started down the path toward the pool, with Maureene in front. As
    she approached the gate, she could see Morris and Karen standing
    with their arms around each other with no clothes on, and Morris had
    an erection.”

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  77. on March 10, 2012 at 12:41 pm Blues

    This aloof stuff does not work for everyone. I found out if you don’t have any value on the dating market you will only look like a loser. I think you’ve already made a point about it, calling omegas the one that were not aloof and dregs the one that were aloof.

    Well long story cut short I was at school doing some teamwork and the two teams ( in one there were only women except for me, a team of 10) and in the other one there was one guy and two girls. In the first one I was the leader ( the one that was supposed to debate with other people during politics simulations) but they complained about my attitude to the teacher behind my back and I got penalized.

    In the second one I literally had to quit the team, I felt like I was left out the whole time and then they complained to the teacher and I had two choice : Stay with them or get the fuck out and do the project alone. I did it alone and I never looked back.

    Still I think it helped me a lot, the old me would have sucked up to them and I would have apologized to the teachers and my team mates. Now it’s more like I don’t give a fuck about them, but the reality is that it’s quite hard to accept that people don’t like you and probably never will, I don’t think you can truly be aloof when it feels like the whole class hate you.

    [heartiste: aloofness isn’t the same thing as being anti-social. aloof alpha males are often the most sociable people in a group.]

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    • on March 11, 2012 at 10:25 pm Paul Canter

      Watch Mad Men. Be Don Draper. That is aloof alpha.

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    • on March 12, 2012 at 1:12 am Lele

      The article is about “aloof alpha attitude”, not “aloof attitude”. If you are a loser and you are aloof, you’ve lost, yes.

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  78. on March 10, 2012 at 4:12 pm PermanentGuest

    YaReally Wins the Thread: http://permanentguest.wordpress.com/2012/03/10/outcome-independence/

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    • on March 14, 2012 at 8:15 pm ZenReally

      Yay! I’m the weiner!! lol

      Good article. Game concepts translate to the rest of your life. “In the way you do anything, you do everything” and all that.

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  79. on March 10, 2012 at 6:00 pm Dan

    Talk about an alpha pop culture icon.

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  80. on March 12, 2012 at 1:02 am Ergebnisunbekümmertheit beim Flirten (“Outcome Indifference”) « Alles Evolution

    […] schreibt in dem Artikel “The Aloof Alpha Attitude Explained“ über “Aloofness” als eines der wichtigsten Merkmale des attraktiven Mannes. Er […]

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  81. on March 15, 2012 at 7:29 am Exercise to increase dominance « The Rampant Man

    […] After a few days of this, something almost magical happens. You notice that men break eye contact before you do, and look to the ground. Forced to look up at you (most will be shorter than you), women return your gaze hungrily, uneasily, wonderment gripping their facial expressions, and if your vision is sharp enough you can make out a nearly imperceptible parting of their lips. You begin to feel dominant. And that feeling translates into real dominance and an attitudinal shift, for above all the thing that is attractive about alpha males is their attitude. […]

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  82. on March 22, 2012 at 7:01 am Art

    With womankind, the less we love them,
    the easier they become to charm,
    the tighter we can stretch above them
    enticing nets to do them harm.(Pushkin)

    Every russian kid knows this by heart

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  83. on March 25, 2012 at 7:10 am How to muster confidence to the unshakable level | Optimum Awareness Leads to Optimum Control in Your Life

    […] of mind when you adapt, will be a great force in shaping your confidence and your presence will be powerfully attractive to women and men will respect and admire that […]

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  84. on March 26, 2012 at 3:57 pm OverTheTop

    I remember the first time I realized aloofness and the power it had to attract a woman.

    I had been seeing this girl for a good two weeks, we slept together once and I wanted to fuck her again. I ask her what she’s doing for the night and it turned into a wave of flakery. “I’m really busy, I don’t know. Maybe we can hang out tonight… but I’m so tired” I simply responded: “Yes or no missy.” She then says “hmmmmmmmmm.” I’m not upset at this point, but I realize she’s gaming me.

    I start thinking to myself, “How do I flip this around?” then I finally settle on not responding. I go and drink with a group of other women that I know and head clubbing with them for the night. Two hours later she texts me asking what’s up, I tell her “I’m partying with my friend Sarah!!” She just says “Ok.” Another hour passes, she’s begging me to come over and see her later in the night. She texts me atleast four or five more times.

    I head over there at the end of the night and sleep with her. As small as this sounds, she didn’t throw little games at me like that ever again and I maintained a consistent sexual relationship with her for quite some time.

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  85. on April 20, 2012 at 1:00 pm Confidence is Only a Feeling

    […] of mind when you adapt will be a great force in shaping your confidence, making your presence powerfully attractive to women and respected by men.Advertisement/**/How do you become confident? Be like this cat:Apart from […]

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  86. on April 25, 2012 at 2:59 pm One hundred departures from a hermit’s land | darwindater

    […] evolving a game that works in my own country. (Plus, recently my job situation has been ruining my attitude).  A blog just might be the tool I need to spit out the lotus, and return to the rich palette of […]

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