Over at Cheap Chalupas Central, there’s a rollicking post and discussion thread about female hypergamy and its consequences for society when it is unleashed in full. Recommended reading. Le Chateau Heartiste is proud to be the locus for the mainstreaming and growing interest in female hypergamy. It’s long overdue. Naturally, the Big Chalupa himself is loath to link the relevant posts here, instead preferring the route of swiping tangentially in code. He’s a coy one! Well, whatever. At least we know he reads this blog religiously. Perhaps under the bed with a flashlight?
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THE WESTERN WORLDZ IS BANKRUPT zlzozlzlzozo
http://greatbooksformen.wordpress.com/2010/06/07/how-da-university-works-feminism-debt-debauchery-divorce-desecration-machinearmy-lzozlzlzlzlzl/
how da university works: feminism = debt & debauchery & divorce & Desecration machine/army lzozlzlzlzlzlgh weo
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short beta men rose fast in teh unievristy as they were handed fiat bernanke cash fronm helicopter ben and they used it to surrpound themselves with syocphantic harems of womenze as all teh betas love honor worship tucker max their ultimate master because he rhymes with goldman sax and also he butthexes girls and films it woithout teh girlths ocnthent and the weekly stanadrd neocns repeat his lies lzozlzlzlzzl that he is six foot tall zlozzlzllzlzlzlzl honoring their #1 butthexual hero lzozlzlzl
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http://community.feministing.com/2009/09/why-are-female-executives-publ.html
Why are Female Executives Publishing Tucker Max?
Saw this floating around. good question!
MCCOY MOUNTAIN
ART, FILM, & LITERATURE GUILD OF AMERICA
Ms. Priscilla Painton
Simon & Schuster Editor in Chief
RE: ASSHOLES FINISH FIRST, Secretive Tapings of Anal Sex without The Girl’s Consent, Corporate Douchebaggery, and the Epic Failure of I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell
Despite the fact that teenagers nationwide are going to hear gem pick-up lines like “get away from me or I’m going to carve another fuck hole in your torso”, what truly crowns this film as an epic fail is its apologetic attempt to masquerade gratuity as an Apatovian bromance. –http://www.thelmagazine.com/newyork/we-hope-you-can-still-get-alcohol-poisoning-in-hell/Content?oid=1291260
“Little Italy is fighting back against Tucker Max ‘s controversial ad campaign . Yeah, that poster on the right says, “Blind Girls Never See You Coming.” Va fan culo, indeed.” –http://gothamist.com/2009/09/21/tucker_max.php
Dear Ms. Painton,
I and my colleagues in the ART, FILM & LITERATURE GUILD have a couple questions regarding the direction you are taking Simon and Schuster in. Why are you guys/gals hating on art, literature, culture and America? It was recently brought to our attention that you are intent on publishing Tucker Max’s ASSHOLES FINISH FIRST, and that your company actually gave him a $300,000 advance for his fart art. As the editor in chief of Simon and Schuster, owned the CBS corporation, do you truly believe Assholes Finish First? It is oft said that girls like “bad boys.” Does Tucker’s fart art douchebag wit titillate and excite you? Is that why you are publishing and profiting from it? Did you laugh during Tucker’s recent film flop when what’s-his-name stated that overweight women aren’t real people? Do you smile smugly when your billion-dollar corporation profits from douchebaggery?
http://gawker.com/5363233/tucker-maxs-campaign-of-hate-against-chicagos-transit-system “The ads were poetic ditties of white text on a black background . Like: “Blind girls never see you coming” and “Strippers Will Not Tolerate Disrespect (Just Kidding).””
“Over at the Washington, D.C., premiere, Max’s video minion ridicules both Vietnamese and African-American women, the former for being employed as a pedicurist, and the latter for having a name he finds funny.”
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2009/09/10/spot-your-local-tucker-max-douchebag/
Do you enjoy profiting from making fun of Asians and overweight women? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1220628/board/thread/148314040
http://tuckermaxdoucebag.blogspot.com
http://tuckermaxlies.blogspot.com
Does this make you laugh Ms. Painton? It is not too late to choose the right direction for Simon and Schuster and CBS and walk away from publishing Assholes Finish First . At most it will bring in a few pennies, which will lead everyone to conclude that you and CBS aren’t in it for the money, but just the debauchery and destruction of the culture. As Tucker Max pointed out, the feminist movement empowered women and gave them the right to choose the art they affiliated with and promote. So now, with all the power in your hands, what will you chose on behalf of women all over the world? Please do us proud and choose the right thing.
“The ad campaign for the new flick “I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell” includes slogans like “Deaf Girls Can’t Hear You Coming” and “Strippers Will Not Tolerate Disrespect (Just Kidding!).””
–http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-beat/New-Movie-Ads-Take-Offensive-to-the-Max-59695522.html
Why is corporate America, under your direction Ms. Painton, forcing epic “Richard Kelly” fail fart art and film on the common public? Do you also find secretive tapings of anal sex without the girl’s consent to be entertaining and titillating art?
http://gawker.com/5363233/tucker-maxs-campaign-of-hate-against-chicagos-transit-system
Let’s talk for a sec about something Tucker glamorizes and pretends is funny in his ‘book’: filming a naked women in his bedroom without her consent. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that while he’s doing this he is coaxing the girl to have anal sex with him, an exploitative act that a guy like him probably especially enjoys.
–http://www.bitchmagazine.org/post/douchebag-decree-marketing-tucker-max
– http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2009/09/11/the-rapiest-quotes-from-i-hope-they-serve-beer-in-hell/
“OK, we can try anal sex , but I want it to be special and romantic. …. process: I was going to fuck her in the butt and film it without her consent ,” — http://www.tuckermax.com/archives/entries/date/tucker_tries_buttsex_hilarity_does_not_ensue.phtml
Do you and the CBS Corporation find this entertaining? As you know, sodomy is a sin in the Old Testament as is sex out of wedlock and fornication. What is your motivation in working with those who promote and profit from secretive tapings of anal sex?
Do you find such “literature” and “art” to be representative of Simon and Schuster and CBS?
“In one of his most notorious pieces, he convinces a girl to have anal sex and tapes it without her consent.” — http://www.salon.com/mwt/broadsheet/feature/2009/09/08/tucker_max/
Despite the fact that teenagers nationwide are going to hear gem pick-up lines like “get away from me or I’m going to carve another fuck hole in your torso”, what truly crowns this film as an epic fail is its apologetic attempt to masquerade gratuity as an Apatovian bromance. –http://www.thelmagazine.com/newyork/we-hope-you-can-still-get-alcohol-poisoning-in-hell/Content?oid=1291260
Ms. Painton–do you find that entertaining? Is it good literature? Do you consider demeaning stories about having sex with midgets good literature? Do you consider it good business to make fun of Asians, overweight women, and minorities so as to bolster your bottom line?
What is driving you to publish Assholes Finish First ? What are your motivations? Money? America does not want Tucker Max, as demonstrated this past weekend at the boxoffice. Do you find these signs to be entertaining/a good CBS investment?
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2009/09/15/tucker-max-fans-fight-rape-with-racism/
Is Tucker Max’s fan base the group that Simon & Schuster is seeking to serve under your leadership?
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2009/09/14/tucker-max-too-sexist-for-ad-space/
It seems that America believes otherwise as Richard Kelly and Tucker Max’s I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell has proven to be a colossal artistic and financial failure.
“Not faring so well, however, was the Tucker Max adaptation I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell, which took in $369,000 from 120 theaters with a well-below-average $3,075 per-screen average.” — http://www.movieweb.com/news/NEdXykfeBDXwhe
So Priscilla, please tell us about your douchetastic love affair with Tucker Max and his fart art. Does it really titillate you as a woman and feminist? Say it isn’t so! Is this good Simon and Schuster/CBS branding? Why did your massive billion-dollar corporation reward Tucker with a $300,000 advance?
“Little Italy is fighting back against Tucker Max ‘s controversial ad campaign . Yeah, that poster on the right says, “Blind Girls Never See You Coming.” Va fan culo, indeed.” –http://gothamist.com/2009/09/21/tucker_max.php
Does CBS and Simon & Schuster approve of registering fake email accounts to promote stories regarding secretive tapings of anal sex without the girl’s consent?
” The lack of traditional plugs forced Max to promote his web site and book via the internet. He would create fake e-mail accounts and then bombard entertainment sites and news aggregators with links to his material.” — http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/03/11/tucker_max_sxsw/
For this, your billion-dollar corporation rewarded Tucker with a $300,000 advance.
“Max may have to concentrate on his agent style business moving forward because he’s running out of material. He’s received a $300,000 advance for a second version of his drunken, sexual exploits – a tome that will contain the stories not ripe enough for the first cut.” — http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/03/11/tucker_max_sxsw/
Are you proud of Simon & Schuster and your corporation? Funding and encouraging hype, failure, douchebaggery, debauchery, lies, secretive tapings of anal sex without the girl’s consent, and making fun of Asians, overweight women, and minorities. Is that what attracts you to Tucker Max, or is it the epic artistic and financial failure of his film?
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/i_hope_they_serve_beer_in_hell/
“I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell fails in its attempts at raunchy humor, and Tucker Max comes across so unlikable and outrageous that the film’s inevitable story arc feels forced.”
It is not too late to choose the right direction for Simon and Schuster and walk away from publishing Assholes Finish First .
Best,
McCoy Mountain & The ART, FILM & LITERATURE GUILD
–http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1220628/board/thread/148314040
Will Priscilla Painton at Simon & Shuster still Publish *beep* Finish First?
the title makes no sense. *beep* might finish first in some silly women’s eyes, but they epic fail in reality, as demonstrated by tucker’s epic fart art film fail, which priscilla painton is pretendning not to notice.
What’s up with women these days?
It seems the more they run things, the more they try to force douchebag fart art on everyone:
Former ‘Time’ Exec. Relieves Venerable Editor Mayhew At Simon & Schuster
http://gawker.com/5002333/former-time-exec-relieves-venerable-editor-mayhew-at-simon–schuster
Anywho, does Priscilla Painton at Simon & Shuster have a personal vendetta against asians, minorities, overweight women, and little people?
Does she think tucker’s ads are cute and humorous?
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-beat/New-Movie-Ads-Take-Offensive-to-the-Max-59695522.html
Does she get off on this?
“The ad campaign for the new flick “I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell” includes slogans like “Deaf Girls Can’t Hear You Coming” and “Strippers Will Not Tolerate Disrespect (Just Kidding!).”
Is that supposed to be funny?” –http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-beat/New-Movie-Ads-Take-Offensive-to-the-Max-59695522.html
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2009/09/10/spot-your-local-tucker-max-douchebag/
Is this the new face and culture of simon and schuster?
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2009/09/15/tucker-max-fans-fight-rape-with-racism/
Does Priscilla Painton at Simon and Schuster giggle at secretive tapings of anal sex without the girl’s consent and also this:
http://www.penguinblogs.ca/davidson/archives/00000079.html
http://tuckermaxlies.blogspot.com/2008/08/sillylittlefreak.html
http://www.tuckermax.com/archives/entries/date/the_absinthe_donuts_story.phtml
“11:17: The girl starts saying something about what a horrible person I am. I stare at her, but I am not listening. I am preparing myself. I am B-Rabbit. This is the final battle rap. I will win the hostile crowd:
[I interrupt the fat girl] “Ward, I think you’re being a little hard on the Beaver, [as I point to each in turn] so is Eddie Haskell, Wally, and Miss Cleaver.”
[To the fat guy with greasy hair in the camo vest] “Look out everyone! It’s the Pillsbury Commando! Hey Chunk, when was the last time you washed your hair? Does it give you more hit points to have that grease helmet? I hate to break the news, but +5 defense only counts in Dungeons and Dragons.”
[To the ugly Asian girl] “Why you no rike me? You want me frip over? You no piss me off! ME FIND YOU IN POCKING ROT!! YOU NO TAKE MING ARIVE!!”
[To the small frail dork–I notice he has a lazy eye] “Dude–Look at me when I’m talking to you–BOTH EYES AT ONCE. Are you really this ugly or are you just playing? EVERYONE, BE CAREFUL, THIS GUY LURKS UNDER THE STAIRS AND TRIES TO LICK YOUR SHOES WHEN YOU PASS BY!”
[To the original fatty, pause for effect] “Why do you do this to yourself? WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO YOURSELF? Look, I’m gonna give you some advice-leave the party, take the geek squad with you, go to Denny’s, order about 10 Grand Slam Breakfasts, and eat your pain away. Won’t be the first time will it?”
11:19: I am finished. The kitchen is quiet, except for Eddie and Rich laughing. The four freaks are completely speechless. Everyone is staring at me. I blurt out, “WHAT? I’m pretty sure it’s what Jesus would’ve done.” Eddie and Rich promptly remove me from the kitchen.”
Is Priscilla Painton publishing tucker’s next book for the love of literature, art, or money?
‘Cause it seems that those who work with tucker generally hate and lose literature, art, and money.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priscilla_Painton
http://www.theladyfinger.com/2009/09/tucker-max-brings-his-misogyny-to-big.html
“What ensues, according the film’s trailer, is alcohol-fueled misogynistic mayhem. Max has sex with several women, including, to his smug satisfaction, a dwarf.”
See? That is the clever banker ruse.
Have women such as Priscilla fund and promote it, while others protest it, enriching the bankers as marriage is destroyed and the state is grown.
http://www.stephenbaskerville.net/
“A Site about the Divorce Regime, Family Court Corruption,
and Government’s War on Fathers”
“The divorce regime is the most totalitarian institution ever to arise in the United States. Its operatives in the family courts and the social service agencies recognize no private sphere of life. “The power of family court judges is almost unlimited,” according to Judge Robert Page of the New Jersey family court. “Social workers are perceived to have nearly unlimited power,” a San Diego Grand Jury concludes. “Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Total immunity [enjoyed by social workers] is absolute power.”
The divorce regime is responsible for much more than “ugly divorces,” “nasty custody battles,” and other clichés. It is the most serious perpetrator of human and constitutional rights violations in America today. Because it strikes the most basic institution of any civilization – the family – the divorce regime is a threat not only to social order but to civil freedom. It is also almost completely unopposed. No political party and no politicians question it. No journalists investigate it in any depth. A few attorneys have spoken out, but they are eventually suspended or disbarred. Some academics have written about it, but they soon stop. No human rights or civil liberties groups challenge it, and some positively support it. Very few “pro-family” lobbies question it. This is because the divorce regime operates through money, political power, and fear.” — http://www.stephenbaskerville.net/
–http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1220628/board/thread/148314040
Have you seen/read END THE FED by Ron Paul? “Everyone must read this book–Congressmen and college students, Democrats and Republicans–all Americans.”
–Vince Vaughn
When you think about it, Tucker Max was the Fed’s ultimate creation–a soulless, debased douchebag:
“My name is Tucker Max, and I am an *beep*
Think about it–Tucker’s motto @ http://tuckermax.com could be the Fed’s motto:
“I get excessively drunk via inflating the currency at inappropriate times, disregard social norms (funding feminism/debauchery & debasement of the family/currency/culture/tucker max(educated at the Fed’s University of Chicago’s School of Economics (school of freakanomics) and Duke scholarship)), indulge every whim/war, ignore the consequences of my actions/bubbles/bailouts, fund idiots and posers and tucker-max-like CEOs, sleep with more women than is safe or reasonable/luring them with fiat currency & a fiat-funded bus, and just generally act like a raging darko/douchebag/dickhead.”
What do you think of Ron Paul’s new book–End the Fed?
End the Fed
Review for End The Fed
“Rarely has a single book not only challenged, but decisively changed my mind. “
–Arlo Guthrie
“Everyone must read this book–Congressmen and college students, Democrats and Republicans–all Americans.”
–Vince Vaughn
Vince Vaughn is a far, far better actor/director/writer than Tucker Max, so it makes sense that Tucker and his jealous friends at the Fed detest Arlo Guthrie and Vince Vaughan as well as art, film, and literature.
The book has much better reviews and is far-higher ranked than Tucker’s douchey books/film/trailer–Five solid stars!
Why do you donnie darko douchos/cbs haterz hate on art, the Constitution, morality, goodness, sound money, peace, prosperity, love, the family, kindness, and Ron Paul so much?
And like the Fed, tucker privatizes all the profits of his private jet while sharing all the risk with his volunteer employees, who work for free.
“Feminism which espoused “women’s rights” actually has driven femininity underground, torn the sexes asunder, and stripped woman of recognition for being wives and mothers, roles essential to their own fulfillment, to men, and to children and society.” –http://www.savethemales.ca/
– http://www.amazon.com/Save-Males-Matter-Women-Should/dp/1400065798
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As I was reading this comment, I knew only a GBFM response could be (many times) longer than the original article, lol.
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Will someone PLEASE give GBFM his distemper shot?
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hey heartssistess!!!
when can we readz your books at da bookstsores!!!!!
i waannanan order a triple mocha latte epspsoressso so i can get wired and read it tehre all night
as i hit on all da hottiess studing so hard about how to plummet da worlds into devbtz zlzlllzlzlzzlzolzozloz
how to taransfer and dsteorys wealthz
how to abort der unbornzz lzozlzlolzlzo babiebs innococnetnt baabeiss
at teh fedz behehdst zlzlzozl
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You do god’s work. Bless you.
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Hahaha, brilliant. Yeah, Cheap Chalupa is a real piece of work with his PC groveling.
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You can also read a depressingly ignorant and brainwashed article on Cracked today, by David Wong. Apparently we’re all bad people for wanting sex with women. Also, Republicans are behind it somehow.
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It always befuddles me that the Cracked writers can post crap like that repeatedly despite having articles such as this:
http://www.cracked.com/article_18440_6-things-men-do-to-get-laid-that-science-says-turn-women-off_p2.html
and this:
http://www.cracked.com/article_18866_5-reasons-women-are-as-shallow-as-men-according-to-science.html
David Wong’s article just goes to show how badly some men want to believe women are goddesses from afar and angels from heaven, while men are demons and princes of darkness.
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this mangina betaboy white knighter pissant needs to lay off the soy products.
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LOL! “Why Men Opting-Out Should Make You Angry.” Feel the rage!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-belkin/men-opting-out_b_1375355.html
‘It’s been nearly ten years since I added the phrase “opting-out” to the work/life/gender/parenting conversation, in a 2003 magazine piece that explored the phenomenon of educated women stepping off the fast career track when they have children.’
Translation: just a reminder for those of you who might have forgotten that I’m a cultural trend-setter. Replace “trend” with four-dollar word “phenomenon”, check. Insert obligatory buzzwords “educated” and “fast career track”, check.
‘Since then, people have been telling me that the article made them angry — at me, for letting down Feminism and suggesting that women couldn’t do it all’
Capitalize Feminaz – I mean Feminism, check. Also, men are laughing at you for (1) thinking that corporate deathburger you’re eating is a road to self-actualization and (2) buying into the supermom/supercareergal/superblahblahblah fantasy that any man knows would give him a stroke before 40.
‘at themselves, for being the women I wrote about’
Meaning they accepted reality, a healthy development.
‘at the women I wrote about, for either copping out or having an escape hatch not available to everyone’
Like men?
‘at corporate America, for the outdated workplace paradigm that was built around a male biological clock’
What does this even…never mind.
‘and that forced women to choose between work and family. ‘
Boo hoo. I didn’t see much of my dad as a kid, he was busy working to put food on the table. If only his employer had been enlightened enough to let him sit at home instead. Goddamn capitalist pigs.
‘I have always wondered whether there would be the same anger at a story about men choosing to ratchet back their careers — work less, earn less, climb less of the ladder.’
You bet. That nanny State ain’t gonna fund itself.
‘Liza Mundy’s new book. “The Richer Sex: How the New Majority of” ‘
blah blah blah longest subtitle ever
‘is about many things. As its title suggests, it starts with the prediction that the economic relationship between the sexes is about to flip. Women are already outpacing men in some places and professions, Mundy writes’
Thank you massive State intervention in every aspect of the economy.
‘and in a shift that she compares to “the rise of agrarian society, the dawn of the industrial age, the ascent of the white-collar office worker, and the opening of the global economy”‘
and the Bolshevik Revolution
‘she extrapolates that women will come to be the majority of primary breadwinners in the US. The resulting changes in “the economy and the workplace,” she writes, “will shape human behavior by challenging some of the most primal and hard-wired ways men and women see one another, It will alter how we mate, how and when we join together, how we procreate and raise children, and to use the phrase of the founders, how we pursue happiness.”‘
The Fatal Conceit, anyone? If that’s too hard, try Jurassic Park – another good lesson in what happens when you blindly screw with nature.
“There’s a lot to process”
They said the same thing when the sewage treatment plant backed up for two months.
‘When a small subset of women — those educated and wealthy enough to actually have a choice — made the “choice” to “stay home” (I use the quotation marks because it wasn’t a choice so much as a response’
Whoops, can’t say they made a “choice”, women being victimized by evil patriarchal corporations can’t make choices.
‘and they didn’t really stay at home so much as redesign their relationship with work)’
LOL. I think I’ll “redesign my relationship with work” by not showing up. Boss oughta love that one. Only in the midst of a massively distorted malinvestment bubble economy can people come up with lines like this.
‘they were a signal that something was toxic in the system. By voting with their feet they challenged a workplace structure and tempo that was predicated on the assumption that men had wives at home — a structure that did not substantively change when women entered in large numbers.’
Now there’s no one at home, let’s usher in the 24-hour workday.
‘It took losing these educated, well-trained, valuable workers to create the readjustment that gaining them in the first place had not.’
LOL! Because, as we all know, the U.S. economy would grind to a halt if we lost “a woman’s perspective” on thinking up new gimcracks, selling used houses, suing people, pushing papers, and slinging code.
‘And it looked, for a brief while, that the new talk of flexibility, and careers that are not linear, and re-defining success just might become the new norm.’
This reads like a David Mamet play. Go start a business and sit there making posters that say “my career isn’t linear” and “re-defining success”. See who pays you for this.
‘Then came the great recession’
Translation, the bullshit gravy train derailed.
‘And Mundy’s meticulous research and connecting of statistical dots’
Her data must have felt like they’d been prison-gang-ass-raped and given AIDS by the time she came up with her conclusions.
‘suggests that parity is not necessarily going to be the endgame here.
…
Substituting one kind of inequity for another we mean we have travelled far and gotten nowhere, they warn. “If we flip the power to women, we’ll just end up with the same role responsibility burdens and imbalanced lives,” Amy told me, only with the genders reversed.’
From this muddled sentence I can’t even quite tell who’s being victimized now, but I’ll let you guess.
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Nice summary.
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Very well done, Libertardian. I learn a lot from reading your comments and following the links you provide.
Particularly trenchant: “Because, as we all know, the U.S. economy would grind to a halt if we lost “a woman’s perspective” on thinking up new gimcracks, selling used houses, suing people, pushing papers, and slinging code.” Not only did I nearly squirt coffee out of my nose from laughter, but I learned what ‘gimcrack’ means– le mot juste, sir.
“This reads like a David Mamet play.” That, or an Onion article.
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Thank you anon and Fred.
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Women legitimately will be victimized – which makes it all the harder to understand why they’re pursuing the “right to be bread-winners” as aggressively as they are.
Spent much time in minority communities? The biggest difference between men and women is that there’s a limit to what men will give to the opposite sex. After all, women provide men with sex – men provide women with emotional support and human companionship, which is a lot harder for the fairer sex to forgo. I’m more worried about women in the future than I am about men. Things will flip flop, but it’s not going to be a “Female Husband / Male Wife” scenario. It’s going to be a Player / Sugar Mama scenario, with 100% of the responsibilities in the female corner and 100% of the rights going to men.
The question is will the white man be willing to sacrifice social status after realizing it’s no longer necessary to get laid? If you’ve hung with the trailer park crowd, you already know the answer. So go back to work, sweetie. Your baby’s hungry, and can easily go to his other girl’s house if you’re not cooking tonight.
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Gator, you sound like a white knight. Be careful, women are experts at manipulating men who have sympathy for them. Before you know it you’ll be pussy whipped.
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It’s not white knighting if you’re trying to protect them from yourself.
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One of the most remarkable things to have happened, and not happened, in the late 20th and early 21st centuries is the emancipation of women, and their collective failure to produce anything even remotely resembling a revolution in human thought, industry, or science. That the unleashing of the combined historically restrained mind of 50% of the human population has resulted in – pretty much nothing – is testament to the remarkable thing about this revolution inspired by feminism. For what has been proven a hundredfold at least is that women are, on the whole, intellectually, physically, and creatively inferior to men.
Like Holmes’ dog that didn’t bark, the curious thing about the emancipation of women is that all it has produced is a tidal wave of degreed women with no corresponding advancement in human civilisation. What we do have is the eternal sounds of feminine whinging, simultaneous with ululating at how brilliant and mistreated they are, all at once. – Pat Hannagan
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Women are rising to the top decks of the Titanic.
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O/T:
I’ve found David Wong of Cracked to be a girly-man and a major prick, and this article took the cake for me:
http://www.cracked.com/article_19785_5-ways-modern-men-are-trained-to-hate-women.html
I’m not holding my breath to see his article detailing how women are trained to have the 400+ point check-list for guys, or how they demand “romantic” behavior but then get on all fours for the BSD alpha guy who might leave a candy bar the day after Valentine’s Day.
PS: he stands up for Sandra Fluke instead of pointing out that she is demanding that somebody ELSE pay for her right to get it on with anybody she chooses.
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I assume you are posting there under an alias.
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Yeah. “Lords of lies” I’m pretty sure.
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Nice to have extra heartiste material.
We should spot all of his comments in other forums.
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Never.
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“A 35yo woman with superficial demands meets the wall, accuses men of wanting younger women for superficial reasons. http://t.co/u4Wy73lx”
Some choice comments:
“No, you’re not a hard sell. It’s just that there aren’t any single men out there who are worthy of your attention.”
“Not getting married at all could be the BEST thing that could ever happen to you. It is certainly better than settling for less just to be married.”
SCREEEEEECH!
“Here’s a newsflash. The men who prefer younger women do so not because they want to have kids, but simply for status.”
Let me fix that for you. “Here’s a newsflash. The men who prefer younger women do so not because they want to have kids, but simply to bone them.” You can thank me later.
“You feminist got too good at showing men you didn’t need them. You never learned the skills for having successful relationships. It’s funny how the married women I know laugh at the insanity of feminist women who spend their whole lives sabotaging themselves and then complain that the world won’t change in order to make them happy. … And you wonder why men seek younger women who haven’t been scarred by feminism.”
Yep.
“Here’s a question for you, Ms. Natasha Scripture. Would you be willing to date a less successful and/or younger man? If not, then why not?”
Crickets.
“The vast majority of this world functions under the corrupt rule of lecherous men.”
Another poster calls her out on this hilarious assertion and her response is: “How weak of you to start with someone else’s words.”
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Breaking the “Happy, successful single mom” narrative…from the inside out:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2121374/Why-I-regret-single-mother-says-Diane-Keaton-admits-best-possible-scenario-attached.html
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Always enjoy the insight about hypergamy, etc.
What’s the concept/word used to describe men pursuing younger/more fertile women?
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natural
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Opportunity.
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Common sense.
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The concept is natural reproduction……
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Manliness.
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The normal scheme of things for the human race since…ever?
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giggidi
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Not being retarded? Having functioning eyeballs?
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Nookiegamy?
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hummuna hummuna hummuna
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Mother nature
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Reality
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All good answers (or at least entertaining). But still looking for the scientific term …..
[heartiste: i don’t think there is one. the closest would be ephebophilia, perhaps. but men pursuing younger women is so commonplace and natural that it has probably evaded taxonomical categorization.]
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Your suggestion led me from ephebophilia (attraction to mid- to late-teens) to simply chronophilia (attraction to specific age ranges, although undefined).
But the use of -philia maybe isn’t what we need. That seems to suggest a deviant attraction, rather than a normal one.
How about: chronogamy?
So women naturally engage in hypergamy, while men naturally engage in chronogamy.
So if some SWPL past-her-prime bitch gasps at my attraction to 25-year-olds, I can say, “Relax, sugartits. It’s just my chronogamy flaring-up again.”
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Well done.
Although I prefer hummuna hummuna hummuna.
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Is there an anti-inflammatory for that?
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Evolutionary Fitness.
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Jeez you have a hard-on for Cowen.
[heartiste: i admit, i like needling him. he so spergy!]
Hate to say it, but he probably wasn’t dreaming about you when he wrote that post.
[i bet he was.]
He reads like 14 books a night and posts about them all.
[don’t be gullible. the guy doesn’t “read” all those books. he skims enough to offer a cryptic sentence or two in review.]
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His reviews of The Black Swan and Liberal Fascism were far short of impressive.
Nassim Taleb and Jonah Goldberg were not impressed, either.
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Devlin also have out a lot of info….
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awesome
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The lack of attributation relating to issues of hypergamy and feigned ignorance of the manosphere by these people is revealing. It points to an overall level of cowardice in dealing with Feminism and its consequences for society. Like others, I’ve noticed a real hesitation among social conservatives in addressing Feminism to a degree that points to social conservatives being utterly cowed into submission, if not afraid of Feminism’s shadow.
As I pointed out in the linked post ‘Charles Murray’s One-Sided Shaming’, in a interview on the conservative website podcast ‘Ricochet’ Murray had the moxy to urge the other men on the podcast to shame other men who don’t ‘man up’. This plea was especially made towards Rob Long, a Hollywood writer/producer to shame single men in the entertainment he created. You can list to the podcast here: http://ricochet.com/main-feed/Ricochet-Podcast-110-I-m-A-13/%28page%29/3
What was even more damning was in the commentary about the podcast interview with Murray. Only one commenter, a woman under the pseudonym, ‘SettlerMom’ made a half-hearted attempt to point the blame towards women. And even then, it was in the most timid/kind of-sort of/perhaps we should look at women’s behavior type of recommendation. The rest of the presumably ‘conservative’ commenters responding to Murray’s interview refused to address his comments at all, instead focusing upon Murray’s ‘what social class do you fall into?’ test.
Only one, out of the 97 commenters even attempted to address what Murray was calling for. It goes beyond self-absorption vis-a-vis the ‘social class’ test, it points to outright cowardice by conservatives in addressing the social and economic consequences of Feminist misandry.
That hypergamy and men’s rights are being discussed more frequently in more quarters is good. That a significant portion of society that supposedly would agree with much of that discussion and refuses because they’re afraid to do so is damning.
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The social conservatives are a bunch of white-knighting manginas who put women on very high pedestals and then beg for female approval like a dog begging for food scraps. They are incapable of standing up to feminism, no matter how ridiculous the feminist demands. Where women are concerned, the socons act like servile lapdogs instead of men. Then they have the hypocrisy to tell the rest of us to “man up”. What a joke.
White knights are the enablers of feminism. The anti-male laws that oppress us were enacted by mostly male legislators, many of whom call themselves conservative. They are easily manipulated by feminists who know how to play the “poor little woman” card to get whatever they want from chivalrous old men who can’t bring themselves to say no to females.
I will repeat: white knights are the enablers of feminism.
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I wrote my thesis under the Big Chalupa, and know him well. He is *very* knowledgeable on art and music, but I never thought he understood economics or social science very well. He has been married at least three times.
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He periodically makes the mistake of throwing up some critique of Austrian economics that invariably betrays a painful ignorance of it.
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hypergamy as a topic really is starting to spread like wildfire hasnt it ? this may be the plot point to bring the unvarnished narrative full sail into the masses…
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The stories just keep coming. Maybe we should have a running open thread for them.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/28/shawn-tyson-guilty-murder-british-tourists
“The boys were crying, ‘Please let me go home’,” Brodsky said. “Instead, Shawn Tyson said, ‘Since you ain’t got no money, I got something for your ass,’ and began shooting.”
[heartiste: it’s a non-stop hit parade! but don’t tell obama. he could have a son who looks like any of these guys.]
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Post slutty pics and watch the omega money roll in.
http://imgur.com/a/JDVRZ
I wanted to do this but I was told it wouldn’t work for guys. This is sexual discrimination and I demand the State intervene until I can make as much at it as women do.
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I’m glad the mask is covering the rest of that travesty she calls her face.
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Cliff’s Notes version of those articles and books he cites…
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I stumbled across an interview with a preternaturally self-aware woman that veered into this subject (though the term ‘hypergamy’ itself wasn’t used). I found was on the ‘Wedding Podcast Network’:
http://weddingpodcastnetwork.com/podcasts/lovecast-show-7-with-alison-armstrong-understanding-men-women/
Starting at 8:10:
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Alison: Men…are the walking resolution of paradoxes. For example, if you look at men’s relationships to other men, it’s phenomenal. Every other man [a man] meets, the instinctive question a man will ask [himself] and answer very quickly is…’How can I take him?’
[…]
Alison: But the other side of that is you could end up giving your life for him…It can go either way…For example, one of the things I talk to men and women about a lot is the difference between loyalty for a man and loyalty for a woman. Women are not loyal in the male sense of the word; we’ll back you up as long as you’re right. And it’s very frustrating for men because, in a man’s world, loyalty; you back me up even when I know I’m wrong. It’s the vision of two men back to back in a bar fight. One on ’em’s swinging and taking punches and giving punches and saying to the other guy, ‘I can’t believe you got us into this again.’ But he’s still there…[at] his friend’s back. You know that expression, ‘he’s got my back’?
Female Host: But don’t women do too?
Alison: No.
Female Host: We don’t have each others’ back?
Alison: Nooo; and we don’t have our guys’ back. And it’s one of the biggest complaints from men is…
Female Host: That they don’t feel they have the support of women…
Alison: It’s different that support. It’s a loyalty where we’re on your side even when we think you’re wrong. It’s a kind of loyalty that a woman would….it’s so hard to explain to them…but….
Female Host: But isn’t it through communication that you would know about that loyalty?
Alison: hmmmm….actually…
Male Host: Maybe women are just incapable of it…
Alison: Let me put it a little bit differently, ok? Because women usually hear this as an accusation, like there’s something wrong with us, that we’re not loyal. We’re actually designed differently; women are the adapters. We’re the master adapters and instinctively we survive, literally survive, as crass as you wanna think that is. But we survive on a very primitive and instinctive level by adapting to the best horse in the lot. We naturally look around: ‘who should we put our money on?’ And then we adapt to please and be attractive to and aligned with that person for as long as they’re the smartest person to be aligned with. And it’s a very primitive calculation and…it’s how the smaller and weaker sex survives. And it’s got a very good basis is Cave Woman; it has nothing to do with human spirit. From the point of view of human spirit, a woman can be just as loyal as a man, but it’s a created [loyalty]. It’s [saying], ‘In the face of this, I choose my husband, I choose my man, I choose partnership. I’m not abandoning my partnership even though it doesn’t look like the smartest thing to do right now. But it’s an act of courage, an act of human spirit. But as Cave Women, we are not loyal. Not the way that men are.
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Incredible; she doesn’t use the word ‘hypergamy’ but she defines the concept quite well. Her point about women being capable of a ‘cultivated loyalty’ reminds me of a something Dennis Prager often says: One of the problems in our culture is that, while we teach and demand that males ‘fight their nature’ from childhood, females are taught no such thing. In fact they are taught to revel in the fullness of their nature and that the feminine is wholly good.
On that last count, it occurs to me that so much of feminism is simply official codifications of childhood nursery rhymes or glib & empty couplets tossed around by adults:
Rational person: What is the nature of men and women?
Feminist: Boys are made of snakes and snails and puppy dog tails.
Rational person: What principle should govern the distribution of assets in a divorce?
Feminist: What’s mine (hers) is mine (hers) and what’s yours is mine (hers).
As you were…
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Great post man, insightful to see this thought pattern fleshed out by a female.
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Why would he need a flashlight?
[heartiste: did i say flashlight? oops, i meant fleshlight! silly me.]
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What good is a flashlight for reading a blog?
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Is this guy from some indian song “alpha”? Twas linked in another dating forum……
apart from his weird mustache seems to be completely unfazed by the skimpy hb8.5 …… right moves he even slaps her ass multiple times… can it be a good example of “how to romance like an alpha”???
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I am an economist myself and I have to agree that the class as a whole, either the Orthodox variety (Mankiw, Trichet, Volker) or the Heterodox dark side (Krugman, Stiglitz…) are completely deranged in anything concerning social relations and the course of economics as a whole damages your social skills just somewhat less than RPG games.
An engineer friend of mine sent me once this text by Edmund Burke, from 1793, commenting on Marie Antoinette’s downfall and, indirectly, on what values economists stand for:
“It is now sixteen or seventeen years since I saw the Queen of France, then the Dauphiness, at Versailles; and surely never lighted on this orb, which she hardly seemed to touch, a more delightful vision. I saw her just above the horizon, decorating and cheering the elevated sphere she had just begun to move in, glittering like the morning star full of life and splendor and joy.
Oh, what a revolution! and what a heart must I have, to contemplate without emotion that elevation and that fall! Little did I dream, when she added titles of veneration to those of enthusiastic, distant, respectful love, that she should ever be obliged to carry the sharp antidote against disgrace concealed in that bosom; little did I dream that I should have lived to see such disasters fallen upon her, in a nation of gallant men, in a nation of men of honor, and of cavaliers! I thought ten thousand swords must have leaped from their scabbards, to avenge even a look that threatened her with insult.
But the age of chivalry is gone; that of sophisters, economists, and calculators has succeeded, and the glory of Europe is extinguished forever. Never, never more, shall we behold that generous loyalty to rank and sex, that proud submission, that dignified obedience, that subordination of the heart, which kept alive, even in servitude itself, the spirit of an exalted freedom! The unbought grace of life, the cheap defense of nations, the nurse of manly sentiment and heroic enterprise is gone. It is gone, that sensibility of principle, that chastity of honor, which felt a stain like a wound, which inspired courage whilst it mitigated ferocity, which ennobled whatever it touched, and under which vice itself lost half its evil, by losing all its grossness. ”
Edmund Burke – 1793
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[…] We all know about Roosh, Rollo Tomassini and Heartiste. […]
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You’re leaving these people out. Women with high student debt loads don’t have kids. They’re too stupid to and bought into the lies so in all reality, they have lower IQ’s than the lowly young hotties just working the cash register at the shoe store. Lack of long term critical thinking is a sign of low intelligence and many college educated women are exactly just that. STOOPID.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/1-student-debt-crisis-owing-163540505.html
A whole 20 percent were taken off-guard by the size of their monthly payments. Another 20 percent were surprised by their repayment terms. About 15 percent hadn’t fully anticipated the interest rate they would be paying. Although more than 3,500 graduates took out both federal loans and private bank loans, almost two-thirds said they didn’t now the difference between the two (hint: private loans tend to be a lot more expensive to pay off).
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Not sure if the relationship game thread is still going, can somebody help?
My girl talks about guys she has dated in the past too much for my taste. It’s annoying. And I’m battling beta insecurity, to be honest. She still texts a guy she used to date that she still has a thing for, which I hate.
if this is a shit test, I don’t know if I’m passing or failing. The only reaction that I have shown to these comments is mild amusement, or polite interest, as though she’s telling boring stories about her extended family or something. I have not let her see any sign of jealousy or insecurity on my part.
Is this the right way to handle it? Is there an alpha way to “claim” her and let her know that these comments get under my skin in a way that will get her hot for me, or should I just keep on acting like I don’t care, or what?
[heartiste: first, the bad news. GFs who love you will rarely, if ever, talk about exes or, worse, text exes. the fact that your gf is doing this means one of two things: she’s shit testing you for a jealous reaction, or she’s cheating/thinking about cheating. my guess is that she senses your betaness and is beginning to think she can do better, and this feeling of hers is coming out in passive-aggressive taunts such as her texting an ex.
amused mastery is fine for one or two infractions, but continual disloyalty from a bitch, like what she is doing to you, requires more powerful artillery. you have a few options at your disposal.
1. (re)initiate a flirtation with another girl. text her all the time. have drinks with her. tell your gf it’s just an old friend you like hanging out with. match, and exceed, her jealousy incitements with your own.
2. lay down the law, and mean it. “kind of whorish the game you’re playing here, babe. if you keep texting your ex, i’m outta here. just letting you know.”
3. continue ignoring her. if it’s just a shit test, she’ll eventually crack and lash out at your indifference. in that case, you are fully in the driver’s seat. if it’s more than a shit test, she’ll cheat or you’ll get a sense she’s about to dump you. in that case, get the jump on her and dump her first.
hope this helps!]
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Casually texting an ex is a sign of disrespect and slutiness.
Keep her as a fuckbuddy, but don’t invest in chicks who are not 100% obsessed with you.
Actually, I don’t invest in chicks who have exes, but that’s another story.
You come off as a scarcely recovering beta. You got a long away ahead bro.
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What kind of chicks don’t have exes?
Once you account for nuns, lesbians, unfuckable toad princesses, and the 11-and-under crowd, there’s not much left over.
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That’s why they call me playboy, baby.
I’ve never been able to fall in love actually. Because love and sloppy seconds don’t match in my world. So sad…
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“I don’t invest in chicks who have exes”
Come on. A little competition never hurt anyone.
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From a woman’s perspective, it’s competition. Preselection turns you on.
From a man’s perspective, naah. All I see is sloppy seconds.
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Agreed. I tell the college students I meet that I’m disappointed they hadn’t waited for me. And I mean it. They want to hear that.
But they also want to hear that you expect them to sleep with you now that they found you.
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Heartiste, I think, as an hedonist you’re doing yourself a disservice in not having kids. I have never enjoyed a greater source of pleasure than the experience of raising a son. His accomplishments are a greater source of joy than any I have ever experienced. And talk about a Darwinian rush: the knowledge that I would rip out my best friend’s throat with my teeth without a second thought to protect my boy is quite a thing to experience.
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@Anon: I second this. Let’s see how many people we can get to second, third, fourth, etc. this thread. I’d feel much mater having a Little Heartiste running around somewhere than some dusty online-archives as his legacy.
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What about all the baby-lotto losers who have two or three girls in the vain attempt to have a son? I know a few of them. Wouldn’t trade places with them for a million dollars.
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Thanks, man.
The guy she texts is 2 hours away and she just got full custody of her kids (we’re both divorced) so I would think she’d have a hard time actually seeing him. Insists that they’re just still friends and he knows about me. (this is true, I have snooped and confirmed it, also confirmed that she still has a thing for him, but he seems to just throw her crumbs when he’s bored).
The other guys she brings up are just anecdotes “so and so said one time …” but she was doing it constantly for a while. It has tapered off.
Working on option 1, have considered option 2 but I need to get my mind right first or it’ll be an obvious bluff, will continue with option 3.
Love your site. Thanks!!
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And thanks, Anon – is it possible to be alpha with some chicks and beta with others? A year ago this girl was just one of several I was seeing (behind each other’s backs, so yeah, stlll beta) and she was obsessed with me, crying in her pillow. Since we became exclusive, I have definitely lost my hand.
Gotta get it back, could be a long crawl.
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This woman is a divorcee with children. She really isn’t that valuable a commodity anymore. You shouldn’t be that upset over this.
Anyway, if you still like her, I don’t think you should be trying to have her be obsessed with you. Women who are obsessed with men are not emotionally stable. You should be concerned with her treating you with respect. Talking about her ex boyfriend and texting him in front of you is disrespectful. This woman needs to be told to grow up, and stop tying to act like she is a hot 18 year old.
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I’m not positive that’s what she’s doing. but she is pretty hot for age 42. She has dated 4 other guys since she got divorced 4 years ago (one for a year and the rest for a few weeks each) but they’ve all pumped and dumped her. I would HATE to be the first one SHE dumps and have her tell people “it was 5 relationships before I knew myself well enough/felt strong enough to say that this isn’t working for ME blahdeblahblah …” but at the end of the day if we’re not together, who gives a shit what she tells people?
I’m the first guy she’s brought around her kids, she’s very loving, the sex is frequent and hot … I just wonder what she’s trying to work through in her own head.
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Divorcee?? Kids??? FORTY FUCKING TWO?
Are you sure you’re on the right blog?
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What, am I supposed to just check myself into a home? Guys in their 40’s need game, too – some of us more than others. You’ll find out, if you live that long.
She is still on the right side of the matron-vixen line, her body is 25.
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Guys in their 40s can aim for late 20s and early 30s females.
Targeting 40 year olds is selling yourself short.
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OK find 1 who doesnt have kids and realizes she wasted her best years so she’ll have some grasp of reality.
Not a 42 yr old mo of 2 who fucked 4 guys since she divorced, all men who werent good enough to be around her kids which means she fucked them relatively quickly despite what she claims if she says otherwise, and is now behaving like a teenager.
NOT WORTH THE EFFORT. Fuck her and that’s it. The other guys were smart.
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The age is pushing it, and I’m saying this as a 41 year old. I am not, at this point in my life, shopping for long term partners. It’ll be nice if someone enjoys the sex enough to stick around, but like most women with at least half a clue, I’ve already got an emotional support network. An emotionally interesting cock is just gravy.
So the idea of becoming obsessed with anyone is juvenile. In love with, yes, but obsessed, no. It’s just beneath a woman over a certain age to not know that being clingy and an emotional burden on a man as opposed to a support is exactly the wrong way to be.
So her body may be 25, but her brain needs to act its age. By indulging that sort of thing, you’d just be helping her to sustain an illusion that she hasn’t hit the chronological wall even though the physical one may yet be a few years away.
To regain hand, you need to scare the crap out of her. Understand that the obsession thing is mostly manipulation. There is no such thing as a martyr in relationships. The objective is to enslave a man with his pity and trigger his protective instincts.
You could at least look like you’re thinking of escaping. Flirt with other women she may fear she might actually lose you to. You might also be able to beat her at her own game and go territorial rather than evasive. This means that now that she has you, you have her. Treat her like property and post some hoops for her to jump through.
Hoops are something like dirty or humiliating stuff ugly and plain women have to do to keep our men that hot girls are not used to having to do. Once a woman gets older, if she’s still sexually active, she needs to get some of that treatment in order to be able to keep her head on straight while she transitions to matron. If you don’t post any hoops just because she’s *relatively* hot, and don’t make her conscious of her general-market SMV, she is going to end up running you and then cheating on you with someone juggling hoops like Barnum and Bailey before she hits the wall fully, and you’ll end up the sad clown.
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Okay, I understand better now. If the sex is frequent and hot then she is definitely attracted to you. I’m wondering if maybe she doesn’t realize this behavior is annoying to you. If her other boyfriends weren’t that into her, they probably didn’t care if she talked about her exes. She really doesn’t have the upper hand here, you should remember that. I would first go with CH’s second option of laying down the law. She how that goes.
I don’t think her occasionally texting a male friend is a big deal, as long as she doesn’t do it in front of you. Let him be her texting buddy and you can be her lover.
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I read this blog enough that I know I’m going to catch hell from everyone on here for being new AND for talking to you, but thanks, Lara.
There’s history there, she was seeing this guy 4 years ago, when she was married. She was in a shitty marriage, so was this guy (he was also a serial cheater, I know the signs because so was I), first affair for her. Being with him gave her the courage to ask her husband for a divorce, but then she couldn’t understand why he wouldn’t leave his wife. Broke her heart that he just wanted a fling. Somehow he sweet talked her into not hating him, and since that time he’s been her guardian angel, her buddy that she texts when her ex is being a dick or other guys are dumping her, and at the same time she’s still got a huge thing for what she thinks could have been. She’s pretty naive about men, this is clear from her history with other guys.
Now he’s finally left his wife. I asked if he’s seeing anybody, she says she doesn’t ask, she doesn’t want to know. That means she can’t stand to think of him with anyone else. I can clearly sense from his texts that he’s not that into her, he can do better closer to where he is (2 hours from us) but he likes having women he can text to stroke his ego when he’s down. (As do I.) She tells me whenever she’s been texting him, I think because she thinks it’s OK as long as it’s not behind my back, but she doesn’t know I get on her phone and read her texts.
She tells him she wants to see him again, “just for coffee” and he’s all “I never get out that way anymore and your bf wouldn’t like it.” She tells him that it’s “intimidating” for her that I’m “so crazy about her” (serves me right for getting comfortable and beta) but she’s “keeping an open mind and seeing where it goes (with me).” I think she wants him to think he still has a window, but it’s closing. Bottom line, if he wants her back, there’s a chance she’ll run to him, but he doesn’t seem to want her back.
I just need to (1) keep acting like I could care less, (2) get my mind right so I can lay down the law and it won’t be a bluff, (3) get a couple more women in the pipeline who are waiting for me to be available (which I had when I started seeing her but let them fall away. Seemed easier. Lesson learned.)
Thanks Lara, and thanks to the rest of you for all the tough love I’m about to get …
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You lost me at “just for coffee”. You realize that means sex, right? She was looking forward to get his hard veiny cock inside her wet vagina…
I would have bolted right there and then, or at least definitively downgraded her into fling material.
By all means, keep fucking her if she’s that hot. But the idea of you considering a serious relationship makes me cringe.
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I doubt you’ll see any improvement here until you start seeing other chicks and she knows about it. It seems that’s the only situation where she’ll respect you and not constantly shit test you.
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Working on planting seeds of doubt in her head, back when she wasn’t sure how I felt about her she was at my feet – sincere thanks to everybody on here.
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She has kids and so do I, we’ve had them out together but they don’t know we’re dating, I have thought of approaching it like “I’m a big boy, so if you ever decide you want to be with him or someone else – whatever, but I’d be dumb to let my kids get emotionally invested in a relationship with this hanging over it” – Make it not about me, in other words.
[heartiste: you don’t need to use your kids as a pawn. in fact, i wouldn’t if i were you. just tell her YOU won’t get involved in a relationship with a woman who acts the way she does. you’re the man, you make the rules.]
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““I’m a big boy, so if you ever decide you want to be with him or someone else – whatever, but I’d be dumb to let my kids get emotionally invested in a relationship with this hanging over it”
You’re leaving her a choice, and you rely on female responsibility (spot the oxymoron).
You still don’t get what women are and want you to be.
Word of advice: Dump her, no matter how much you thinj you like her, you’re just rationalizing your lack of immediate options.
Spend the next two months religiously reading the archives of this blog. And then maybe you’ll be ready for younger tighter challenges.
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Got stuck on the daily mail again, and I found this article, about a dude who decided to dump his wife:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2121671/Jennie-Garth-reveals-didnt-want-end-marriage-Peter-Facinelli-says-wont-him.html
Nothing special, but check out the commentaries. The horde of harridans can’t think of an excuse when a man asks for divorce, despite the fact that 70% are initiated by women.
Bitches be ignorant.
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Oh yeah, the comments are a riot, accusing her husband of hypergamy, so ironic, lol!
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2121805/Id-Hoover-bag-kiss-husband.html
Middle-age wife wonders why she’s no longer able to kiss her beta hubby.
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I came here for my daily taste of homoeroticism. This post is disapointing.
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Totally off-topic field note:
I’m sitting in a cafe right now, and at the next table there’s a little guy with an unfortunate set of sideburns, sitting with a hot babe who is about to spill out of her strapless top. For nearly two hours now she has been monologuing to him about other guys and how badly they treat her.
Prediction: among the places his dick isn’t going tonight is her.
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That’s gotta be tough to watch, cringe-wise.
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@Diabolo Belo about what to do about an annoying little cunt you are dating. Heartiste said it all, but I’d add that when you lay down the law, don’t feel the need to be all civilized and in control about it. You can rage at a girl with absolutely no negative consequences, and even positive consequences.
Real genuine anger is not some out of control unstoppable force, like a wild thunderbolt ready to cause unknowable random damage. Anger in a mature adult male is a display of his fierce embodied sincerity of will. Be fucking angry with no apologies about it. Get fucking pissed at her and let her know exactly why.
Most people are not ready to hear this information. But it’s solid truth. Don’t be too civil. Making it a requirement of yourself to be civil binds your hands, and this self limiting makes you weak. Allow your inner caveman out to be fully embodied. Even be a bit unpredictable about it.
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To Diabolo Belo: H said it all, but I’d add that when you lay down the law, don’t feel the need to be all civilized and in control about it. You can rage at a girl with absolutely no negative consequences, and even positive consequences.
Real genuine anger is not some out of control unstoppable force, like a wild thunderbolt ready to cause unknowable random damage. Anger in a mature adult male is a display of his fierce embodied sincerity of will. Be fucking angry with no apologies about it. Get fucking pissed at her and let her know exactly why.
Just don’t be impotently pissed. Be pissed like a man who will do something about it if things don’t improve.
Most people are not ready to hear this information. But it’s solid truth. Don’t be too civil. Making it a requirement of yourself to be civil binds your hands, and this self limiting makes you weak. Allow your inner caveman out to be fully embodied. Even be a bit unpredictable about it.
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Another point to Diabolo; your woman must fear you.
If she doesn’t fear you, she doesn’t respect you. If she doesn’t respect you, she does not desire you.
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Slap a copy of The Prince across her face and call yourself Machiavelli.
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This has potential to backfire. The woman is divorced for who knows what reason. Imo, there’s a difference between commanding respect and causing fear.
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Kate, I’ve let her know before when I’m pissed at her. The behavior that pissed me off has not been repeated.
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Dude – the girl is asking to have “Coffee” with some guy who piled drived her with his monster cock and you are trying to analyze. Dude…..dump her.
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Dalrock has an epic post that relates to all this:
http://dalrock.wordpress.com/2012/03/30/rules-of-the-road-for-fornication/
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