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The Reason Beta Males Pedestalize Women

March 30, 2012 by CH

Why do so many betas harbor gauzy delusions about female sexual nature? Why are monogamously inclined traditionalists, manginas and white knighters so quick to sanctify women and paint their misbehavior in rose-colored hues while simultaneously offering unconditional support and shitlapping amen choruses for women when they accuse men of committing a litany of hackneyed misdeeds?

I’m here to provide what I believe is the most parsimonious answer to this riddle:

Beta males are rarely in a position to witness the worst of women.

Put yourself in the typical beta male’s shoes. He spends a goodly chunk of his horniest years — teens to mid 20s — when holes in watermelons look like acceptable vagina substitutes, pining for ethereal hot chicks who don’t pay him a lick of attention as they swoop by him on a cloud of incandescent purity. He sees them only from afar, where his imagination is free to feverishly fill in the gaps with only the most pleasant assumptions about his dreamgirls. When the rare communication does occur, she is as nice and kind as a saint to him. He is too smitten to recognize the hint of pity and condescension laced in her polite chat.

Later, usually college, he fumbles his way through awkward social interactions with plainer janes, the great majority of which end up with him being used for emotional sponging and ball-twisting, torturous friendships. All these girls are exceedingly, superficially kind to him because, after all, why look a gift herb in the mouth? A girl loves beta male attention, as long as it’s platonic, on her terms, extractive, and focused on feeding her ego. Naturally, these girl-friends never talk about their sex lives with the beta, never reveal what really goes on behind closed doors, and never invite the beta to join them on any adventures that really matter to him. Contrary to media popularization, betas rarely hear “This one time, at band camp…” from girls in their social circles. What they often hear instead are requests for help with term papers.

Then, due more to a combination of luck and (ovulation cycle) timing rather than bold effort or charm, the inoffensive beta male might find himself in a fledgling relationship with some semi-cute shut-in nearly as awkward as he and already past her beauty prime. She really likes him and treats him well… more sincerely than the cuter girls who made a sport of cockteasing him at any rate… but like ‘Rat’ Ratner from ‘Fast Times’, he labors for months and months waiting patiently for her to put out. For reasons beyond the beta’s ken, she is an extremely modest girl. He interprets her chasteness as evidence of women’s all-round goodness and saintliness, but of course he is sorta pissed off that she won’t satisfy him without months of “getting to know each other” warming up. When he finally does bust that cherry, after painful years wandering the celibate desert, it’s all he can do to stop himself mentally affixing a halo atop his girlfriend’s head, and pronouncing all women the undistilled essence of goodness.

A few pitiable betas, like those with bitch tits, horizontally stretched navels, and receding chins who wear ‘this is what a feminist looks like’ t-shirts, get trapped in sporadically sexual relationships with manjawed femcunts at grad school, mostly because long-winded bull sessions among their kind occasionally spin up enough libidinous energy to resolve in PBR-fueled late night groping, which is promptly regretted and/or rationalized by one or both parties the next morning, usually the girl.

Eventually, the beta male gets married, and his lack of experience — one to three lifetime “partners” (and I use the term loosely) is the norm — has cultivated in him a strong inability to read women’s signals, which sometimes leads him into blissful ignorance where infidelities can linger for years unnoticed, and “Surprise! I have a divorce paper!” gambits accost him like hammer blows to the head. Mostly, though, he floats through his marriage thinking the best of his wife, and worst of himself should feelings turn sour or the sex dry up. Because this is just what men are supposed to do when a woman is less than happy: take the blame. Women are the weaker sex, after all.

So you see, in the final analysis, it is very likely, by dint of the beta male’s ignorance, inexperience and habituated veneration of women and reflexive indulgence of women’s motives, that his view of women is severely constricted, child-like in its naivete. The beta male is not privy to what Tyler Durden famously called the secret society of women. He was never invited, and he was never apprised of the secret society’s goings-on by any woman in his life. He lives in a pinched world with only a peephole to the wonders beyond, given him not by insight but by stumbling into depravity or by the good grace of a sympathetic alpha male. As far as he knows, women don’t have much sex, and they are very nice and polite most of the time.

The beta male pedestalizes women because one, that’s all women have deigned to show him of their sexual inner world, and two, he cannot bear the contrary thought, affirming and cementing as it does his lackluster place on the sexual totem pole. (He is mired down in the sticky pubes, his vision obscured, while alphas dance joyously at the tip of the glans.)

As for the women, those few who have not experienced the thrill of the alpha male often are nearly as chaste as the beta imagines, because they have never been tempted. All they know are a parade of beta males, whom they lash out at occasionally for unwittingly stifling their truest desires, but who, for the most part, they treat in a nontoxic manner that buttresses heavenly notions about their secretive natures. A woman is ever aware of the precariousness of her reputation, and this goes double in rural outposts of heavy religiosity.

And so the beta male has his crimped worldview confirmed by the asexual, undersexual women in his life. But should he ever step outside his empillowed existence… take that daring step into the gritty, grimy world where the female id roams free across fruited plains of phalluses… screw up the courage of heart to face head-on the previously unimaginable… he will find that a bigger universe has existed all along, enveloping the bubble of his life, surging with unleashed energies just out of his reach like uterine aurorae, and if his soul isn’t killed dead right then from shock, he’ll cross the boundary into this new world — he won’t really have a choice — and never look back.

Nor ever again blindly assume the purest of women’s motivations. The stronger among them do with this newfound knowledge the following: acknowledge, accept, incorporate, delimit. He rules his knowledge, but he does not let it rule him.

Such boundary crossing is rare. The beta and alpha male worlds are almost as separate and distinct now as they have been since the dawn of anonymous urban living. Though that is changing.

If betas knew what alphas experience, it would blow their minds. Completely, utterly. Out from under the judgmental Eye of Proper Society, equipped with the requisite beauty to pay the price of admission, the wild female libido is insatiable, crass, debased. It is willing to surrender to the most vile sexual plunderings, screaming in ecstatic pleasure at every enthusiastically welcome violation. Women of the sweetest daytime dispositions and most innocent countenances — smartly coifed women in demure business suits who expound drily on cost-revenue projections and wait tidily in lines for healthy lunch alternatives — will unleash vaginal hell in the arms of alpha lovers, squirting glorious love over dominant men who swap them like baseball cards, presenting like beasts in heat for throbbing units in dank dive bar restrooms, casually spreading as far as they can go in locked office rooms for illicit lovers, giggling in breathy whispers in their lovers’ ear about the clear and present danger of getting caught, deliberately effusing a fake sorrow for the cheated-on boyfriend back home unawares, bemusing wistfully about a history of letting alpha lovers snort coke off her ass while claiming another headache to evade hubby’s entreaties.

Beta males never see this world. To them, it doesn’t exist. And that’s exactly how women want it.

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  1. on March 30, 2012 at 5:29 pm samplexus

    You just described me circa 1996-2010

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    • on April 9, 2012 at 11:51 pm P Ray

      Some of the best method books came out then.
      Even “The Game”.

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  2. on March 30, 2012 at 5:31 pm casualpua

    Great post.

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    • on April 1, 2012 at 3:00 pm samseau

      I agree. One of Heartiste’s best of 2012 so far.

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 3:45 am Anonymous

      Yeah, only put women on pedestal to look up their skirts.

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 11:47 am samseau

      Best one I’ve read so far this year

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  3. on March 30, 2012 at 5:41 pm askjoe

    ouch. and damn if it isn’t true that some people form these opinions when you watch every pop-culture nerdfest, ouch “jenny’s not that way…she’s an angel.”

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  4. on March 30, 2012 at 5:55 pm Tmason

    If betas knew what alphas experience, it would blow their minds. Completely, utterly. Out from under the judgmental Eye of Proper Society, equipped with the requisite beauty to pay the price of admission, the wild female libido is insatiable, crass, debased. It is willing to surrender to the most vile sexual plunderings, screaming in ecstatic pleasure at every enthusiastically welcome violation. Women of the sweetest daytime dispositions and most innocent countenances — smartly coifed women in demure business suits who expound drily on cost-revenue projections and wait tidily in lines for healthy lunch alternatives — will unleash vaginal hell in the arms of alpha lovers, squirting glorious love over dominant men who swap them like baseball cards, presenting like beasts in heat for throbbing units in dank dive bar restrooms, casually spreading as far as they can go in locked office rooms for illicit lovers, giggling in breathy whispers in their lovers’ ear about the clear and present danger of getting caught, deliberately effusing a fake sorrow for the cheated-on boyfriend back home unawares, bemusing wistfully about a history of letting alpha lovers snort coke off her ass while claiming another headache to evade hubby’s entreaties.

    100% true.

    Until the rape charge comes.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 6:09 am Anonymous

      It’s only rape if he’s not hot/Alpha…

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  5. on March 30, 2012 at 5:56 pm Socialkenny

    Lmao I have to laugh for 2 reasons:1.)We’ve all been there(Beta-ville).

    2.)That article,”Secret Society”,by TD is the most incredible article I ever read:hands fucking down with the stunning insights.I read that years ago and been a TD fan in the PUA community since.So it’s ironic that you’d mentioned that.

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 4:20 pm Money Shot

      why is it ironic? Seems anything but to me.

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  6. on March 30, 2012 at 5:57 pm FFY

    Daaaaaaamn.

    Straight truf.

    Describes my earlier existence to a T.

    This is the reason why some call it “the red pill”. Internet wankers and manginas may scoff at the term, but it’s only because they have yet to experience it. It is mind blowing.

    And once you’ve been behind the curtain, you can never go back.

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  7. on March 30, 2012 at 6:00 pm Daniel

    Brilliantly written article. Stylistically, probably your best yet!

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  8. on March 30, 2012 at 6:01 pm Pablo

    Good insight in this post. Once you’ve seen the truth, there’s no going back. I just wish more betas would clue in and stop orbiting the hotties. Keep preaching the good word, brother.

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 3:38 pm pulsotic

      Beta’s getting a clue is the last thing I want. Having the contrast of those betas around has always been a great way for women to see how much better I am. Not everyone can be Alpha; someone has to be lower to prop you up. And do I feel bad? Not at all. The truth is all around them and they choose not to see it. You can lead a horse to water… which I’ve done repeatedly. I can only call 3 times a success and that’s pushing it. The rest saw a glimmer of their bizzaro world and it freaked them out so much that they rebuilt their walls of myth twice as high.

      Betas are weak and highly ego driven. That’s what allows them to retain their beliefs in the face of evidence to the contrary. They identify with it. That’s why they’re also the ones most likely to try to pull you back down into their miserable model of the world, and the most likely to judge you, and talk shit passive aggressively (a truly feminine act).

      The fool thinks he’s wise. The wise man knows he’s a fool. I knew I was a fool and decided to figure women out. Betas think themselves wise and never allow themselves to learn. I think it’s great. It reduces my competition and gives alphas a masculine comraderie that betas can only play at in their fantasy league.

      Betas coming around ain’t gonna happen anyway. Truly transformative thinking on a grand scale only happens when the previous generation that held onto the old beliefs dies off.

      The only people you need to worry about being beta/alpha are your sons.

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      • on May 24, 2012 at 7:36 am Anonymous

        Beta/Alpha….this doesn’t have to do with personality, it has to do with looks. You can play the fool if you look good and it doesn’t matter. This shit is very simple.

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  9. on March 30, 2012 at 6:01 pm Anonymous

    In a nutshell, bitches be freaky yo!

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 6:10 am Anonymous

      Word, homie!

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    • on April 3, 2012 at 7:26 am Thanatosis (@lmMirin)

      Only for a certain type of guy 😉

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  10. on March 30, 2012 at 6:03 pm Maya

    Interesting post, as usual. ❤ love u :***

    But I wouldn't romanticize betas so much … I know I've said that before, but I don't think men are as innocent as you write. I know losers who believe all women are whores and I have noticed that men very often overestimate women's sluttiness (probably thanks to media portrayal of a modern, empowered woman?) In reality, most of us still are those semi-cute and (extremely) modest girls.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 4:54 am Eugen

      (extremely)

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      • on April 3, 2012 at 5:18 pm Ben Runkle

        ^This.

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      • on April 5, 2012 at 12:34 am Issac Jordan

        ^In Hoc!

        Also, fantastic post. It wasn’t until I came to college and joined a fraternity that I discovered how women really worked. Red pill is such a great analogy, because it truly is mind-blowing.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 8:16 am GeishaKate

      If you’ve never wanted to cheat, you simply haven’t met the right person (or you’re already with the right person). Most everyone starts out cute and modest; the trick is to maintain that when you’re tossed in the crucible. As the genius Wilde wrote: “The only way to get rid of temptation is to yield to it.” And Emerson: “It is easy in the world to live after the world’s opinion; it is easy in solitude after our own; but the great man is he who in the midst of the crowd keeps with perfect sweetness the independence of solitude.” Just because it isn’t easy, doesn’t mean we shouldn’t strive for it. Generally things we have to work hard for are worth it.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 1:21 pm Holden Caulfield

      Just because you personally HAVEN’T (or would like us to believe you haven’t) done things other woman have sexually, doesn’t mean you WOULDN’T do them if an alpha male gave you the chance. Don’t be so naive and/or full of shit. And whether men overestimate women’s sluttiness isn’t really an issue. . .its what women are capable of that really counts. If I understood correctly, betas typically have no clue the depravities that are possible. Hence the secret society.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 11:06 pm colonelcrimson

      There is definitely a subgroup of betas who fit into that category. The bitter types, the caring assholes. But I reckon if a high quality girl was suddenly all over them, they’d be doting all over her the same way a niceguy beta would.

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    • on April 1, 2012 at 5:38 am Paul Canter

      Extremely modest for beta males. For Alphas you put out.

      [heartiste: maya is a self-professed virgin at an age when most women aren’t, so any advice or observations or assertions she gives should be taken with a flat of salt.]

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 12:10 pm itsme

      In reality

      your reality, or the one the rest of us live in?

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  11. on March 30, 2012 at 6:05 pm Anon

    It’s like in that downton abbey episode when the beta bitchboy asked the manjawed freak if she slept with the alpha turkish lover because of love. She responded that no, it was lust.

    Betas are utterly unaware of women’s lust.

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  12. on March 30, 2012 at 6:06 pm Dildo Baggins

    God this is painful 😦

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  13. on March 30, 2012 at 6:09 pm Maya

    Otherwise, I agree with you that men who have never witnessed the worst of women can have very romantic ideas about who we are. But women have the same problem. We need bad experience to become cynical, don’t we?

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 2:56 pm Anonymous

      …shut up Maya.

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    • on April 3, 2012 at 6:01 am P Ray

      You mean you want the bad experiences from a guy you’re attracted to.
      And every guy after that has to pay compensation to you, for not being that guy who gave you the bad experiences (that you chose to stay on for).

      A person only needs bad experience to become cynical, if they’re too stupid to make observations or make the correct conclusions (i.e., making excuses for someone elses’ conscious choices).

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  14. on March 30, 2012 at 6:20 pm Nescientist

    “and if his soul isn’t killed dead right then from shock, he’ll cross the boundary into this new world — he won’t really have a choice — and never look back.”

    This is my problem now. I’ve recently taken the plunge, been able to internalize some game and actually get laid on a semi-regular basis but my soul is completely dead. Knowing the truth about women has made me completely uninterested in having any kind of romantic connection or ltr with them now.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 2:15 am LFP

      I’m in the same boat. I spent most of my life being “nice” and “dependable” only to be stabbed in the back.

      I think people like us may have to just give up, focus our energies on something else we’re passionate about, and perhaps get to know our local brothel.

      Yeah, it’s beta, but I no longer have the time or patience to waste on the female sex. Life’s too short.

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      • on April 2, 2012 at 5:19 pm Stuki

        Focus on getting rid of the social structures that enable the kind of world you so abhor. Women act this way, because massa gommiment is there to back them up by transferring resources from those amongst them who does not. And assholes get to enjoy the spoils because “nice guys” support a massa gommiment who will back the assholes up, should those they wrong do something about it. Absent massa gommiment, the only way to even stay alive, is to be sufficiently nice that noone feels any particular urge to casually blow you away.

        Think about that. And then do whatever you can, whenever you can, and wherever you can; to always and forever get rid of as much of massa gommiment as you humanly can. Absolutely none of what they do is even remotely useful for decent people, as decent people are perfectly capable of getting along without them. Only the shit and the dregs, the trash and the scum benefit from having some external edifice like a gommiment to cover behind; when those they prey on, and are nothing but a burden to, get fed up with having them tied like boat anchors around their ankles, and decide to do something meaningful about it.

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      • on April 3, 2012 at 7:25 am Thanatosis (@lmMirin)

        The government and the police force that they fund is what protects you from those assholes that you speak of in your paragraph.

        I hope you’re not promoting uninhibited free competition without any societal infrastructure?

        People would hate that MUCH more than our government. for painfully obvious reasons.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 2:39 am xsplat

      Then you haven’t yet come to terms with being a leader of women.

      If you look at a woman as a free agent with whom you are having a relationship, then yes, don’t bother. That would be sick.

      She is not a free agent. She is your charge. Your pet. It’s up to you to train her and keep her in line.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 3:01 am Older Alpha

      Yes, the truth can be uncomfortable. When in a relationship, you can never fully relax, never let your guard down. You have to keep your game up, otherwise your woman will turn against you. If you stop gaming her and slide into betatude, she will fall out of love with you and eventually dump you.

      It is better to learn this early on than to stumble into a clueless beta marriage and a few years later be blindsided by divorce. Ignorance does not lead to bliss.

      [heartiste: like that old song says, there is one way to be relaxed in a relationship:
      “If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life,
      Never make a pretty woman your wife.
      So from my personal point of view,
      Get an ugly girl to marry you.”

      note: not a personal recommendation. being around an ugly woman can make a man very unhappy. but i’ve known guys who follow this prescription and there’s no doubt they don’t have to run a lick of game on their grateful beasts.]

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 10:44 am Anonymous

      Opting out is a blessing. We have the opportunity to do it without any social shaming.
      I just fuck around, play video games, hit the gym, hang out with my friends, do my couple hobbies. And I’m living the dream. Can’t even think of having kids and assuming responsibility and worrying about the future.

      Fuck it, fuck it all. 60 years ago, I would’ve been considered as a womanizing evil outcast. Now I’m just a man “who refuses to grow up”. Booo fucking hooo.

      And I have the perfect alibi for refusing to grow up: Women aren’t worth it.
      And I got proof: go read Heartiste.

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      • on April 2, 2012 at 5:19 pm Anonymous

        That’s just bitches guilting you because they can’t rip off your house, money and kids to go repeatedly shack up with dudes who treat them like crap. Booo fuckin’ hooo, indeed. They should talk.

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      • on April 3, 2012 at 11:54 am DarkByke

        MGTOW

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 7:06 pm Anonymous

      So true. Double edged sword this shit.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 9:08 pm Like a G-6

      I kept my soul, and instead decided that the work isn’t worth wooing adult-children.

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    • on April 1, 2012 at 10:56 am James

      It’s not really a problem. Life is supposed to feel like a nihilistic black hole. Unless you’re an atheist, then I can sympathize because the soul crushing is paired with the knowledge that only oblivion awaits.

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 9:50 am Anonymous

      Hi Nescientist. What did you described is my case too. I don’t want any romantic relationship. For me, women are worthless as a possible partner.

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      • on April 2, 2012 at 8:13 pm Nescientist

        Neither am I fan of casual sex really. I’m the cut-and-paste hyper-romantic beta male that found his way out, but my core is still the same. My plan is to write off Anglosphere women, have some fwb’s if I want, get my degree and watch this continent burn from East Asia (I like yellow girls best anyway) with a good local woman. It sucks right now but I just focus on what I can do to build a future I want and view the women here as mindless fucktoys (not far from the truth anyway).

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  15. on March 30, 2012 at 6:29 pm pantyfx

    There are people who understand the meta, and people who work for us. It’s always been that simple. Girls are no different. I think people get caught up too much in making themselves they ARE something instead of TRYING a style of thinking. You aren’t born any one thing if you are graced with a fully working body and mind. In one circle I am full beta support and in another I am full alpha leader. Obviously the two can’t ever mingle, but to actually see whats after that you have to be both.

    Excellent post man. Life is no different then a bad mmorpg. Women? What about the elites? You think money is anything more then an entry into a database? Beta male is just a derogatory term for support which everyone needs in one form or another. That’s how you can tell we live in a female society, it shits on the providers ;D

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  16. on March 30, 2012 at 6:31 pm Tex

    When I first read story of O I was really disturbed by it. I will be an asshole to a chick but hurting one for amusement just seems sick to me. Still I’ll take the truth over the lies any day. I’m glad I know what I know even if its messed up.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 2:50 am Older Alpha

      You don’t have to hurt them, just dominate them.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 11:27 am itsme

      I will be an asshole to a chick but hurting one for amusement just seems sick to me

      it’s not as sick as the realization that the girl wants it and craves it.

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  17. on March 30, 2012 at 6:35 pm doclove

    This is one of the most brilliant and truthful articles ever by Heartiste. Heed these words well, Men. However far you get or don’t get in Game aka seduction skills, let what this man burn into your brain and never be forgotten.

    I will only add this. Betas know just enough to get themselves into trouble as well as believe the lies concerning women until it is too late. Even then, many if not most never wake up to the reality of what women truly are. This is why so many betas are the victims of cuckolding and divorce. These days their children are often subject to abuse and even murder because of women’s hamster rationalizations and gina tingles. I knew a fellow American Soldier in Afghanistan whose divorced wife hooked up with Mr. Thug-Life. Mr. Thug-Life abused the daughter repeatedly, and finally killed the daughter of the American Soldier just a week before the girl’s 3rd birthday. This is an extereme example to say the least, but how many less extreme example can you think of? I’m sure you can think of a few.

    Omegas don’t know as much about women as Alphas and maybe in most respects as Betas either. That’s why they get laid less and have poorer choices in women. However, a higher percentage of omegas will see the evil women possess because they have been on the recieving end of wanton cruelty by either directly by women( e.g. women insulting them in public) or indirectly by women(e.g. let’s you and him fight in which you have little to no chance of winning). Alphas love women more than anyone else, but they have no illusions about them either. Omegas usually have even less illusions about women than betas because of the abuse. Omegas who can become Alphas like Roosh have the least amount of illusions about women of all, and I’m not insulting Roosh but praising him for beating the odds and going far.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 8:37 am GeishaKate

      This is an important point: “Alphas love women more than anyone else, but they have no illusions about them either.”

      When you can see the truth and love it anyway, that is a real testament to attachment. To love an illusion of a person is not love at all. The allure of the alpha is that he understands and loves anyway. With the “beta,” you will always be hiding who/what you are. You could never be your true self because you would be rejected/he would be horrified. He would take it as a personal insult instead of recognizing it as a natural and not being concerned about it.

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    • on April 1, 2012 at 4:50 pm George Garner

      I’m an omega mostly, and all of this revelation about how women “really are”, rather than inspiring me to learn Alpha behavior, makes me full of despair.

      [heartiste: your despair can feed your rebirth, if you control it.]

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      • on April 2, 2012 at 12:28 pm GeishaKate

        Despair is your mind’s way of dealing with the collapse of your belief system. As you accept new beliefs, your mind will begin to repair itself.

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      • on April 2, 2012 at 12:51 pm Beastmode

        I’ll just leave this here for you:

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 3:55 pm pulsotic

      “Alphas love women more than anyone else, but they have no illusions about them either. Omegas usually have even less illusions about women than betas because of the abuse.”

      I agree.
      Alphas love women in spite of knowing their true nature. That, to me is more pure than anything. Betas love women by projecting their ideal onto them. They’re in love with a fantasy. I would also posit that Omegas are very angry. Whether at women or the world is inconsequential. Can love flourish in that environment?

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      • on April 3, 2012 at 6:04 am P Ray

        Love can flourish … if the WOMAN allows it.
        Scott Disick is a good example that disproves the female saying “If you are angry, no woman will be attracted to you”.
        Therefore “anger” as a means to say a man does not deserve a relationship, is a red herring.
        Osama was a pretty angry guy, how many wives did he have?

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      • on April 3, 2012 at 11:49 am GeishaKate

        The reason women say they don’t like anger (I’m sure I’ve said it myself) is that they are not separating anger from control. If one can be angry yet still in control of themselves, that is very different from being angry and being out of control. For me, and I suspect other women, it is the being out of control that is the problem.

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      • on April 4, 2012 at 12:06 pm P Ray

        Scott Disick was “out of control” in the way Kourtney Kardashian wanted.
        So even “out of control” anger is a red herring.
        Women love violent men: all the better to kick the teeth in of guys who leer at her, amirite?

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      • on April 7, 2012 at 8:09 am GeishaKate

        Love violent men? I don’t know about that. Love men who can protect you against violent men is more what I’m thinking. Ones who won’t back down from violence but not ones who start it. The Scott/Kourtney story has captured my interest. Ultimately, having to get someone into therapy and worry about what they are doing all the time makes them unattractive. From the show, its clear he does still drink. He doesn’t know limits. He’ll do something stupid again in a few years. The whole issue is that it disrupts the healthy relationship dynamic. Instead of being able to trust your man, he becomes your charge/a child, and that becomes especially unappealing when you actually have children.

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      • on April 8, 2012 at 5:51 am P Ray

        “Love men who can protect you against violent men is more what I’m thinking.”
        Means they love all men who can afford a pistol or a knife.
        Which is plainly BS.

        You sound like you are spinning some NAWALT.

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      • on April 9, 2012 at 1:04 pm GeishaKate

        NAGKALT 🙂

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  18. on March 30, 2012 at 6:58 pm Harkat

    “…and if his soul isn’t killed dead right then from shock”

    Fuck, I remember when I first discovered this stuff eight months ago. Dark places…

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  19. on March 30, 2012 at 7:01 pm rationalist

    Yes, this behavior happens, but you have misunderstood the reason pretty badly. If it were simple ignorance, then beta males would defer to people who knew better, such as scientists who study human mating. Ignorance is never the correct explanation for the kind of stubborn self-delusion which the manginas and white-knighters engage in.

    According to Robin Hanson, the reason is all to do with signalling. By expressing sympathy for a woman (so the theory goes) you signal to third parties your own strength and social savvy. Signalling games in human social situations can involve some pretty complex arguments, and Robin has devoted his career to studying them. I will post links later.

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  20. on March 30, 2012 at 7:02 pm Hung One On You

    Honestly, i just feel bad for men and guys. We aren’t taught the real ways of women when we are young. We are taught all these white knight bullshit theories which is essentially sending us into battle with a gun but no bullets.

    It’s a slaughter fest out there.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 2:32 am LFP

      Exactly. I even considered myself a “feminist” all through college! I married soon thereafter and pursued an intense career, blissfully unaware of how much my wife actually despised my beta-hood. After a few years, she became barely interested in sex…. until I found out about her multiple affairs.

      I’m sickened by my younger self. You young guys out there, listen up: avoid marriage at all costs, treat women as interchangeable cogs, and focus on improving yourself (fitness, education, travel) and how you want to make an impact on the world (career, hobby, charity).

      Cynical and cold? Yes, but it’s a rational response to being a male in the twilight of the American empire.

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      • on April 3, 2012 at 6:08 am P Ray

        Understanding that most women treat men as interchangeable is elementary.
        If women didn’t do that, they’d get married to a different guy everyday.
        The fact that they consciously choose to marry only men who meet a set of factors … earns more than them, taller than them, more educated than them, in a more prestigious job than them …
        means that men should have no shame in being just as calculative as them.
        After all, as we are often told, “women and men are equal”.
        So, just as women flit from relationship to relationship, so must men.
        Because women want men who’ve broken a few hearts.
        Since women control whether a relationship occurs, it’s wise to remember to be the kind of person she’s going to want.
        And that means … dating other women 🙂

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    • on April 1, 2012 at 5:40 am Paul Canter

      Well put. SMP is Normandy beach.

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 2:35 pm Fred Rotten

      @ Hung One On You

      Totally agree. If I hadn’t been following a completely unrelated series of links a few months ago, I might never have found this site. And to continue with the battlefield analogy, I was a shell shocked, abandoned, hopeless, and nearly dead soldier when I found CH.

      Paul Canter makes the excellent analogy to Normandy Beach. For me, the experience has been closer to Jack London’s “Call of the Wild.”

      And to ANY young guys reading this, please re-read and absorb LFP’s precautionary statement: “I’m sickened by my younger self. You young guys out there, listen up: avoid marriage at all costs, treat women as interchangeable cogs, and focus on improving yourself (fitness, education, travel) and how you want to make an impact on the world (career, hobby, charity).” After years and years of suffering and waste while under the TOTALLY beta illusion of personal redemption through pussy, I’d give a king’s ransom to go back in time and tell my young self to heed this warning.

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  21. on March 30, 2012 at 7:06 pm Diabolos

    This one…hits a little close to home; a far darker time…one that makes me almost ill to think of. It’s always good to have a nice long chat with the abyss to put things into perspective.

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  22. on March 30, 2012 at 7:07 pm Jack6

    I figured out the problem on why good men don’t exist to women and why they think a a sausage fest has a lack of good men. It’s because betas and omegas are simply invisible to these women. They don’t count. It’s like a cashier at a store. He’s invisible to you considering when you leave that store you don’t remember anything about the cashier. Same with betas.So in a room of 60 men and 40 women, the women might think the women outnumber the men because say 20 of those men are completely invisible (ie: Fat, ugly, too old, short, poor, wrong race, etc.). Women don’t see those guys. The other 20 guys are just normal betas who don’t cause a spark in them. So the women think that its a 40 women to 20 men ratio because they only see the alphas.

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    • on April 1, 2012 at 12:03 pm Anonymous

      The alphas would be less than a third and they would include “old men” whom the hottest women will notice. But point taken.

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    • on April 1, 2012 at 12:05 pm Anonymous

      In fact, it sometimes takes decades for a beta to get a clue and he only becomes alpha in his old age when he realizes the true nature of women.

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  23. on March 30, 2012 at 7:09 pm LFP

    As a lifelong beta, this really depresses me. Especially now that I know it’s true.

    Recently, I found out that my “asexual” wife of 10 years was having threesomes with multiple partners behind my back. I wish I had discovered “game” when I was younger, to put it mildly…

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 2:44 am xsplat

      Go to Thaland. Now.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 10:53 am Anonymous

      Cuckold fetishist alert.
      Pics or it didn’t happen.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 8:45 pm driveallnight

      Was your wife’s hair dyed like a rainbow?

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 12:29 pm Thorvald The Lesser

      I hope you threw all of her shit on the front yard!

      i hope you didn’t have any children. You probably didn’t either way.

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 5:33 pm Anonymous

      Divorce her skanky no-good ass, start over.

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    • on April 3, 2012 at 6:11 am P Ray

      Women mostly PRETEND to have a low sex drive.
      The fact is, it occurs to them as often as men.
      There would not be a market for dildos and sybians if women didn’t think about having sex.
      You were a lifelong beta who bought into the peer pressure that women are completely virtuous and any men who displeased them was committing a monstrous crime.
      When it probably was her trying to scam something for free and the guy holding back on delivery. Or him saying something unpleasant but true about women, that she wanted to say but was scared of the social implications.

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  24. on March 30, 2012 at 7:14 pm ladderff

    Haha I think I know at least one blog commenter who helped inspire this one. Good post.

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  25. on March 30, 2012 at 7:15 pm KillerQ

    This should be added as a chapter to the bible.

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 6:16 pm hanz

      This IS the Bible.

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  26. on March 30, 2012 at 7:18 pm Good Luck Chuck

    Any guy who has been with at least a dozen women shouldn’t harbor any illusions as to their true nature.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 2:46 am xsplat

      I’m a slow learner then. After every new dozen I still learn more, and after the first dozen I knew relatively little.

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  27. on March 30, 2012 at 7:19 pm Amazing

    I’ve never seen this world either. What is going on?

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  28. on March 30, 2012 at 7:20 pm Nas

    Wow!!!! One of your best. Painful to read at times because it has so much personal relevance.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 2:34 am LFP

      Ditto. The truth hurts.

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  29. on March 30, 2012 at 7:21 pm Migue D

    amen brother, A word from the front lines.
    Last night in a crowded bar I saw a lovely asian gal with bleached/dyed blond hair, almost orange, cut in a sexy ragged manner walked in. When she turned her back to two young guys to face the bar one fella reached out and pet her on the shoulder, as if stroking a brightly colored cat. She turned to him a bit quizzically. He just smiled and she turned away.
    He reached out and pet her again and she again turned to him with a look that was a bit annoyed and a bit intrigued. The young guy’s buddy laughed and I had to approach. I told the fella I was buying him a drink for his action, to his surprise. “That was so cool.” I said. It cost me a Long Island Ice Tea to encourage such manly behavior. I told him,”You’ll go far with women!”
    Long Live Alpha action!

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 4:08 pm pulsotic

      I’m still waiting for the “Alpha action”. He sounds more like a pawing gawker to me, which is a close relative of the lurker, unless serious eye-fucking, pulling her closer, and whispering in her ear followed. A crowded bar would have been conducive to this. If his friend was laughing then they’re truly clueless. Did the Long Island buy you 8 minutes of conversation with them?

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  30. on March 30, 2012 at 8:17 pm Adrian Veidt

    And that is exactly why I went the MGTOW route.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 9:11 pm Like a G-6

      You and me both brother.

      Thank goodness for Indian surrogacy, otherwise I might be stuck attaching myself to an adult-child to have children.

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      • on April 3, 2012 at 2:21 am Deepcov3r

        huh? you can hire an Indian woman to have your baby?

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  31. on March 30, 2012 at 8:20 pm Drifter

    It’s really difficult, getting out of this emasculating phase; like being on a trajectory of supplicating ignorance, deceived to believe women are gems incapable of losing their lustre.

    I lack discipline, preferring to wallow on life’s roadside. Complacency’s my lord and i it’s humble vassal.

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  32. on March 30, 2012 at 8:21 pm Mexican Pete

    This site is the Moment of Clarity for a lot of betas.

    If I knew all this when I was a teenager, what a richer life I’d have lived.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 2:39 am LFP

      Me too… I wish I had discovered “game” a few decades ago. I was never taught this stuff by my father, who would probably be considered an alpha (Marine Corps captain in Vietnam). Come to think of it, that’s probably why I became a “nice” intellectual beta — a self-sabotaging attempt to distance myself from him.

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      • on April 2, 2012 at 5:11 pm Money Shot

        Almost every man I know with your kind of father turns out to be a nice guy wimp. As if dad treats his son as just another male to be dominated and/or beaten into submission. The sons acts beta so as not to provoke dad.

        It’s another story for girls. The daughter tells dad to fuck himself and dad beams — “Isn’t my girl the greatest? She’s got the balls her brothers don’t.”

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 1:26 pm Holden Caulfield

      I think a lot of betas prefer denial to clarity.

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  33. on March 30, 2012 at 8:21 pm Libertardian

    “The beta male pedestalizes women because one, that’s all women have deigned to show him of their sexual inner world, and two, he cannot bear the contrary thought, affirming and cementing as it does his lackluster place on the sexual totem pole.”

    At the beta age of 19 I read “Marjorie Morningstar”, a book about a JAP who gets pumped and dumped by an alpha male – and loves it – while spurning the advances of a beta – for years. And this was in the 1930s, when bending over for the alpha instead of marrying the beta was simply verboten. At the time I literally couldn’t finish it because the cognitive dissonance was so bad.

    Telling boys these beta fairy tales about female behavior is as evil as telling women they can ride the carousel and coast on their looks forever.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 8:29 pm Days of Broken Arrows

      If you couldn’t handle “Marjorie Morningstar,” don’t ever seek out the 1983 teen “comedy” “The Last American Virgin.” It’s a deceptive movie that seems like a precursor to “American Pie” on the surface but leaves you with some very unpleasant reality.

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  34. on March 30, 2012 at 8:26 pm deaconblues777

    Ironic. Captured the essence quite well. This makes me think of Michael Coreleone at the end of the Godfather, in the scene with Carlo (You have to answer for Santino) Don’t tell me you’re innocent…it insults my intelligence…”

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  35. on March 30, 2012 at 8:31 pm Libertardian

    That whole second-to-last paragraph would the envy of Dickens were he alive today.

    “If betas knew what alphas experience, it would blow their minds. Completely, utterly.”

    Likewise, when Tucker Max reviewed “The Game” he said he had no idea of the hell betas lived in. He’d previously written a post on how to game women. After that he said, “I thought I was making this stuff clear. Now I realize I wasn’t at all.”

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 12:58 pm Stark

      Can you post a link to that review?
      I’d like to read it.

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      • on April 2, 2012 at 3:53 pm Libertardian

        Wish I could, but it was on TM’s message board which he has long since taken down. Have tried googling and archive.org but no luck so far.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 1:29 pm Holden Caulfield

      That’s because Tucker Max is a natural alpha. Its hard for him (and other naturals) to comprehend that 90% of guys aren’t like him. He should be a prime example to beta males that if you have to err on one side or the other, always go the asshole (dominance) route over the nice guy (beta) routine.

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  36. on March 30, 2012 at 8:36 pm Anonymous

    An inspired post.

    Whatever mood you’re in that got you to write this thing, stay in it, and crank out a few more.

    Top 10 all time

    “and if his soul isn’t killed dead right then from shock, he’ll cross the boundary into this new world — he won’t really have a choice — and never look back.”

    I’d venture to say this is why a lot of us are here

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  37. on March 30, 2012 at 9:00 pm jimmy

    Betas are great for amplifying game in certain situations. I don’t make it a practice to hang with any but inadvertently have many a time benefited from the contrast a beta’s approach has provided for my own efforts – the girl in my uni class with the orbiting betas, the flat mate who tries his hardest to bed the new female flatmate and her friends, the hot girl on a 10 day camping tour with the sticky betas who can’t believe their luck in inadvertently having access to such a girl. One just has to be patient and hit her with the contrasting approach when she seeks out your company as a respite from the betas.

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    • on April 1, 2012 at 12:15 pm Anonymous

      Went on a date with a 19 year old yesterday. She said that she made the exception for me because many of her hundreds of male Facebook friends ask her out and she always rejects the offer.

      I had gotten the date by politely threatening to defriend her.

      She directly told me she admired that and it raised my value considerably. The date lasted several hours and went well.

      All men should defriend any female they are friends with who would refuse to meet them even once.

      Do that now for those that apply to you the reader.

      This thread can wait.

      [heartiste: facebook is a horrid ego-boosting cesspit for women. it’s at the point where if i find out a woman does not have a fb profile, or has a very limited one with only close friends, her value in my eyes goes up considerably.]

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  38. on March 30, 2012 at 9:03 pm Anonymous

    A smidgeon of truth which is grossly exaggerated. Common for your blog.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 9:26 pm denialist

      word. A lot of beta butthurt here… Dear betas, you know why you are invisible? Just by being clueless beta you project that you don’t quite know what you’re doing. And many girls are not that easy to get off. Especially the ones (majority) who get off on dominance, what’s the point of hooking up with your nice ass. Nothing against you, just the way it is, yo.

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 3:22 am Anonymous

      Too close to home?

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  39. on March 30, 2012 at 9:15 pm JACKAL

    This is so much the whole truth, I think I may start crying…

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    • on April 1, 2012 at 11:50 am Firepower

      Now, there’s the proper
      Alpha response

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  40. on March 30, 2012 at 9:27 pm Senior Beta

    Jesus. This is as good as Rockne’s “win one for the Gipper” locker room speech. My sons have to see this.

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  41. on March 30, 2012 at 9:30 pm rationalist

    here is the link to Hanson’s post:

    http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/09/thursday-on-mens-rights.html

    “no one gains by showing they care about sex-deprived beta males. By sympathizing with creatures who suffer in ways that kids might suffer, people signal their parental nurturing instincts. And beta men look better by acting altruistic toward creatures that women feel sympathy for.

    But women who sympathized with sex-deprived beta males actually might give them sex, which would not exactly impress the men these women prefer. So since women are built to have little sympathy for sex-starved betas, betas don’t gain by showing sympathy to other betas. And since alphas gain little from showing altruism, literally no one cares”

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  42. on March 30, 2012 at 9:38 pm Aaron82

    Wow. Awesome post.

    You’ve just elucidated, in an economical, and concise fashion, everything I’ve always suspected of the opposite sex, but was never able to put into words.

    This is perhaps the best post I’ve ever read anywhere in the manosphere. Well done, Heartiste.

    Now, back to my video games, guitar, and books… and generally not giving a damn about relationshits. Bachelorhood forever!

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 2:47 am LFP

      That’s harder than it sounds. Those of us born beta (myself included) are very, very susceptible to any attention a female gives us. We’re weak. No matter how much we exclaim “bachelorhood forever,” it’s almost like we’re programmed to grovel and obey once a little T&A is thrown our way.

      Stand strong, brother!

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      • on April 3, 2012 at 6:14 am P Ray

        It’s easier to resist if your standard for T&A is high.
        The advent of the Internet and looks quality of women in modelling and adult entertainment, should be the benchmark.
        That makes it VERY easy to resist women’s demands.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 3:35 am Older Alpha

      Smart man for not caring about the women. Which ironically makes them WANT you.

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  43. on March 30, 2012 at 9:43 pm Nick K

    Fantastic prose in the final paragraph. Really excellent writing!

    Also first!

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  44. on March 30, 2012 at 9:44 pm Anti Blue pill

    As a recovering Beta it’s nice to witness the failures of my former self
    and laugh off into the free Poon sunset.

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  45. on March 30, 2012 at 9:45 pm brian

    Crap. Just realized I’m a beta male.

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  46. on March 30, 2012 at 9:56 pm Anonymous

    chill with the fuckin adjectives

    your shit reads like an amanda mckittrick ros article

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  47. on March 30, 2012 at 9:59 pm Fuckaire

    It’s a catch 22. One is raised in part by their mother and grandmother. Thus, their behavior is used as a model for other women you meet. They typically aren’t ho’ing it up. Then, throughout life, you are exposed to “modren” women, your role model women’s behavior is totally chucked. It can be shocking. But then you adapt and over come.

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  48. on March 30, 2012 at 10:11 pm bill

    Most men are predisposed to treat women well. It is accepted that women evolved to resemble large infants (high pitched voice, fat, unintelligent faces, big eyes, etc.) so they could exploit men’s paternal instincts. Like infants, women combine a sociopathic personality with a cute helpless appearance. It is the failure to be aware of this instinct and control it that is blameworthy – not the innate desire to pedestalize women itself.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 2:49 am LFP

      Nailed it.

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 1:21 am Anonymous

      Oh My…Great Insight!

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  49. on March 30, 2012 at 10:16 pm Corporal Hicks

    How complete is the deception that beauty is goodness.

    – Leo Tolstoy

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 11:57 pm AlphaBeta

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect

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  50. on March 30, 2012 at 10:18 pm factory2590

    I knew there was good reason to put you in MenZ….

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  51. on March 30, 2012 at 10:43 pm Minister of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda, D.R.G.

    A little too much truth in this one for the masses to bear. Either that or the regular readership is getting laid at this hour. Heh.

    A lot of my friends are beta males. They’re sexually miserable, so I try to improve their lives by teaching them game, but they often display a blatant unwillingness to learn or even believe what I tell them because some of the core elements of game simply don’t conform to their pedestalized view of women. No exaggeration – it’s as if their sexual development has been stunted since the 8th grade. Betas, quite literally then, can be understood as “sexually retarded.” For obvious reasons, women have no intention of disabusing the legions of struggling beta males as to their true nature, so it’s gotten to the point where I look like a sexual conspiracy theorist…who totally by accident just so happens to have one of the largest notch counts of all the men he knows. Indeed, there is a conspiracy afoot; it’s just not this guy.

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 4:25 pm pulsotic

      Excellent comment.

      Since 8th grade, the mantra is: Put on Pedestal, Worship, Repeat.
      All learning is halted. Their sexuality is retarded.

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  52. on March 30, 2012 at 10:53 pm xiagox

    the best thing that ever happened to me was having an a natural as a childhood friend. I would’ve never believed game worked if it hadn’t been for him unknowingly proving everything I’ve read.
    I also completely understand, and pity, beta males that just can’t accept reality.

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  53. on March 30, 2012 at 10:56 pm Anonymous

    It’s pretty funny how much this blog tries to shame “beta” males. Makes me doubt whether this is actually written by a man at all. A real alpha wouldn’t waste time shaming betas. He’d be too busy getting laid.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 2:53 am emmatheemo

      He’s trying to help them, although his methods are somewhat painful.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 2:58 am xsplat

      And a real beta would post as “anonymous” about how successful blog writers who don’t focus 100% of their time and energy to sex must not be alphas.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 1:30 pm Holden Caulfield

      Troll

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 3:01 pm jenovaDDS@hotmail.com

      you’re obviously a fearful woman, worried that the ugly truth is leaking and proliferating too fast for your own liking.

      Go be a good little bitch and hop back on the cock carousel, and so on, and so fourth. Transparent troll is transparent.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 7:41 pm Dark Eden

      As a recovering beta trying to learn some LTR game here, I just have to say its not directly about shaming betas. The reason us betas/omegas are here is to learn the truth, not comforting lies.

      Think of Heartiste and the regulars here as drill instructors screaming in our faces, calling us maggots, and making us run laps. Its really for our own good. The truth is often painful but its better than the alternative. If you can’t handle the sledgehammer of truth then you’re the one with the problem.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 9:13 pm Ulf Elfvin

      But a semi-real alpha?

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 1:42 am Tooters

      You talk like a fag.

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 2:53 pm Fred Rotten

      Totally written by a chick.

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      • on April 2, 2012 at 6:43 pm driveallnight

        +1

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  54. on March 30, 2012 at 10:57 pm blert

    Epic.

    Dead on target.

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  55. on March 30, 2012 at 10:58 pm Seraph235

    I recognize the truth of this post, but while having intellectually come to accept many of the ugly truths instead of the pretty lies, it does not really permeate my soul. And THAT is the point, is it not?

    Having come to realize the Matrix I was living in vis-a-vis women for what it was, UNDERSTANDING so much of what had perplexed me before was mind-shattering and enlightening like the rays of a thousand suns, and yet…and yet.

    Deep down, I have yet to fully accept it. Not in my core, and that carries over into my interactions, which while they are now much more aware and informed, they lack…faith?

    I will have to think more on what is blocking me, what blocks so many, but any thoughts on it I would love to hear.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 3:47 am Older Alpha

      You need to work on your “inner game”. Attitude is critical.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 12:08 pm vague

      I hear you loud and clear, although, truth be told, ever since coming across the methodology I’ve had a definite and clear improvement in my interactions with females. However, like you, I still possess a mental block of some sort, like as if my mind does not want to accept what I have already experienced (albeit in a limited fashion) to be true. I catch myself slipping into “beta-mode” very often, and it confuses me, because my analytical mind tells me afterwards, “that was not what you’re supposed to do.” It’s a Hyde/Jekyll type thing, and not in a good sense.

      Echoing what another poster has said on here, looking into the abyss and taking the first red pill is shocking, and when you become to understand that this is truth, you do seem to lose a part of your soul. I feel like my engrained thought of what I used to think was a definite possibility of finding a loyal, dependable, attractive woman is clashing against the absolute, dark truth that I can never expect that to ever be a possibility. I can’t look at a woman anymore and say she’d be worth more than just a knob polish, and it saddens me. Whatever good behavior or attributes I see in a woman, I contrast with the idea that she probably has a corresponding bad behavior or that the image she shows isn’t the whole picture. When you have a desire (finding a loyal, dependent, sexually ravenous, attractive woman) and you look out into the world and heavily doubt the choices you have been given, it really tears you up inside. Abandoning that single desire would be worthwhile, but it seems impossible to do so.

      I’m sure this mental dissidence is a stepping stone on the path of alpha’ing up, but it looks like a long road ahead. I’m with Seraph – for those of you who have been there, what does it take to get past?

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      • on April 2, 2012 at 12:47 pm itsme

        for starters, you have to stop looking at it in terms of good or bad. viewing women through the lens of morality gets you nowhere, except perhaps depressed.

        instead, figure out your life, and how women will fit into it. then it’s just a matter of understanding their motivations, and how to use them to your advantage to get what you want.

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      • on April 2, 2012 at 2:58 pm Fred Rotten

        itsme nails it again!

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      • on April 3, 2012 at 2:00 pm DarkByke

        Thank you. I’m at this point. An article on this transition period would be appreciated. It’s complex.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 2:28 pm attractionreaction

      You spent decades becoming a beta; that doesn’t change in an instant.

      Spend time looking at it. You said you were shattered (it’s normal); let the heat and pain and pressure of looking at it fuse the shattered beta into a solitary alpha. (You may have to literally grieve the death of the old self.)

      Take breaks as needed; just like with lifting weights, recovery’s where you make your gains.

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    • on April 1, 2012 at 3:41 pm Obstinance Works

      The answer you seek is simple. This is not the way a man would have it to be, but women rule the sexual market. Eve tempted Adam and he did eat. Now you can wuss out and do the MGTOW or you can become more of a man and dominate your universe. Which pill?

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  56. on March 30, 2012 at 10:58 pm n/a

    ‘Tis true, each and every suavely-chosen word.

    ********

    Thanks for all the fine thought and excellent entertainment, CH, though I would rather call you by what I consider your true name, with a capital R.

    Going to be, for many months, in places where I cannot post.

    My best to you and the entire CH crew of commenters.

    Our Chateau is a brilliant and beautiful castle of truth.–

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 12:42 pm GeishaKate

      Safe travels.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 3:04 pm Dan Fletcher

      Hate to see you go. Will be looking forward to the return of your commenting.

      Safe travels.

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    • on April 1, 2012 at 2:57 pm Mark Slater

      Fare thee well, n/a.

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    • on April 1, 2012 at 9:45 pm Anon

      Where? To the jungle? Antarctica? Climbing the Himalaya?

      Wherever it is, snag some pussy and come back with juicy tales 🙂

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  57. on March 30, 2012 at 11:02 pm DirkJohanson

    This post is one of the seminal works in 21st century literature.

    Even I, with a resume of perhaps 100 swing club visits since 1992, star of 7 porn scenes in the past two months alone – and with $100 cash-already-spent to show for it – have barely scratched the surface of the secret world.

    Only perhaps as little as twice have I made it to the afterparties at the mansions, where 8 or 10 or 12 women will party with one or two rich guys til nearly dawn as a matter of routine. You know those texts hot chicks get in the clubs at 2 in the morning, and they suddenly have to leave. Well….

    And only so so rarely have I gotten the late night booty call, let alone the kind that my tall friends get from strippers every once in a while.

    And never have I permeated the veil of the all-girl orgies that go on in Southwest Florida during the day when hubby is at work. A female friend of mine use to go to a few a week; on the rarest of occasions, one of the hubbies would show up unexpected and get to join in. She virtually banished me from her life when I told one of her alpha-worshiping female friends, but who was oblivious to the GGGGGGGG orgies, that I went to swing clubs, and said friend complained about them. I had said nothing about the orgy friend, but apparently I could no longer be trusted. Not that I ever do such a thing as recount such experiences of mine and use real chicks’ names on a blog and reveal them to be hookers or swingers if they did me wrong. lolzzzzzz

    Even I, DirkJohanson, haven’t dated enough active strippers to be in on the wild drug-fueled afterparties that go on when each strip club in the nation closes every night.

    But the secret society is out there. All around you. “The Secret Life of Girls” I called it before Oprah invented the same phrase and watered down its meaning. How many hookers I’ve dated or been friends with that have told me they’ve slept with less than 10 men in their lives, cuz they don’t count any of the sometimes 10 they fuck in a day in their totals!

    Of course, there are no good men out there. lolzzz

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 7:08 am ColSpanker

      “All-Girl Orgies”? Now you got my attention! Do tell!

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      • on April 4, 2012 at 11:38 pm DirkJohanson

        I wish I knew more about the GGGGGGGGGGGGGG…. orgies, but I had no first hand experience. I do know my friend was in one nearly every day around the holidays because there were more of them because the women were “stressed” (I assume they were stressed because they were noticing the guys they considered to be their boyfriends not wanting to do holiday events with them). I also know they smoked a lot of weed, and almost exclusively used toys on each other instead of oral sex. The highlights apparently were when a girl who was straight and not in the know would get seduced. My friend was pushing 50 at the time, but most of the chicks were a lot younger and had rich husbands.

        That having been said, I have been around plenty of girl on girl. The crazies was probably a 7-girl pile at Deenie’s Hideaway swingers cub in Pompano Beach, Florida, about 18 years ago, one very tall, very hot chick laying on a couch and being completely consumed by six other chicks.

        Also, the only rape I have ever witnessed was girl-on-girl at that club, when a woman went down on my date despite my trying to fight, and then pull, her off. Obviously, I didn’t put up much of a struggle in the sense that I didn’t punch her in the jaw or anything like that, but I did use considerable pushing and pulling force to no avail. My date was straight, and horrified (she found out about it later, having assumed it was me). I took a lot of shit for that, and for a while didn’t think she’s ever go back to the club again.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 2:14 pm Good Luck Chuck

      I lived the life of a baller for awhile. Most men, (“players” included) will never truly know what it is like to have pussy offered up to them on a silver platter like I did when I had my rockstar digs. If you have never lived in 4 story townhouse with a jacuzzi on the roof, walking distance to the clubs in a large city in the south, trust me, you don’t know what you are missing.

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      • on April 8, 2012 at 8:04 am Lubis

        It stopped when you finally released “Chinese Democracy,” right?

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  58. on March 30, 2012 at 11:04 pm walawala

    The beta male may also be surrounded by hot women who treat him like a eunich in their court.

    In my social circle there are many hot women…there’s a few beta males who “hang out” with them.

    But it’s clear from the way they dress, walk and conduct themselves with these women that it’s the women who are in control.

    It can be something as simple as bringing a cup of water over.

    If I ever do that for a woman the first thing I do when I’m about to pass it to her is pull it away and take a drink…

    That simple act separates me from any beta male…try this simple thing sometime and see the girl’s eyes light up immediately.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 12:15 pm Obstinance Works

      I like to spill it on her crotch and react with a cheery “Opps I’m terrible!”.

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  59. on March 30, 2012 at 11:14 pm Anonymous

    That, as well as the text by Tyler Durden, sounds like a clever marketing story intended to fuel the horny imaginations of men in their prime mating years.

    Sorry, but this world of yours just doesn’t exist.

    [heartiste: hmm. “marketing story”. now what desperate troll is likely to drop hackneyed accusations like that? lessee…..]

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 12:09 pm Obstinance Works

      What up Alex?

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  60. on March 30, 2012 at 11:15 pm Johann Happolati

    Sure, women, like men, *can* be crass and debased. But the key point here is a woman’s willingness to surrender. If a monogamously inclined traditionalist knows how to run his house, then his wife will be the faithful, demure and adoring lover he wants and expects her to be.

    The responsibility here is the man’s. If he’s debased, then she will be too. If he’s not, then she won’t be either.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 4:03 am xsplat

      And failure to fly like peter pan is because you don’t believe hard enough.

      I’m sensing a disbeliever in our midst! If this seance fails, it’s because of the disbeliever!

      I’m on the whole against belief. Belief in only confidence, belief in the afterlife, belief that things will all work out in the end. Belief when is a type of faith is a confidence trick – believe this, therefore the magic mojo will work. It’s a self hypnosis.

      Now, self hypnosis if valuable. It often helps to shut out true facts and therefore to not be distracted by disturbing thoughts that limit our real power. But self hypnosis is a low level skill. For driving the brain at formula one level, you can’t afford anything less than full awareness – that includes awareness of all limiting and negative factors.

      A man who is not debased and is skilled at leading his woman does not have full control over, nor is he immune to, the basest natures inherent to all women.

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    • on April 1, 2012 at 9:19 am loverboi41277

      What a load of ****

      One need only read Otto Weininger to disabuse themselves of such notions of ‘non-debased’ women.

      THEY DON’T EXIST!

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    • on April 1, 2012 at 1:03 pm Anonymous

      “Traditionalist” males on the Internets always assume the “wife” has already been met and courted and wed. They assume that every male has already done this. When this kind uses an international marriage agency, he gets scammed mercilessly because he feels the woman he’s writing to (who is really Boris) has all but married him already.

      Let’s not put the cart before the horse.

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  61. on March 30, 2012 at 11:19 pm Johann Happolati

    Here’s a simpler explanation for both your perspective and the ‘beta’ perspective. Being debased, you think women are debased, too. Other men, not being debased, think women aren’t debased either. In point of fact, some women are debased and some aren’t.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 4:42 am Gartha

      Yes, men need to “choose wisely”, else women (with government/legal assistance) will assrape them or, may do so even if they do “choose wisely”, since divorce rates for those over 50 aren’t much different than those for younger folk.

      The real lesson: marriage is for wealth and kids, monogamy for vetting partners for marriage and for anything else, play wisely and often – you have no responsibilities to conform to outdated societal norms (read: post-feminist enforced pedestalization and self-debasement).

      Screw wisely, and often.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 6:14 am Anonymous

      Women are debased and if you’re not debased then you’re too boring/weak/niave to hold their attention.

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    • on April 1, 2012 at 12:52 pm Anonymous

      There is a wide variation in the behavior of females, but “traditionalist” men often get the short end of the stick if they pursue the hottest women under 25. I game mainly traditionalist females under 25 and they too like a man to be a bit racy (tease her, for instance, about wanting to see her legs).

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    • on April 3, 2012 at 6:19 am P Ray

      Women who take the advantages of affirmative action, and then claim all women are superior to all men, and show their openness towards sex by only choosing to be with a select small cohort of men … and tell other women their way of success is right and correct,
      are debased women.
      The women who stand by and do nothing … but take all the advantages offered without giving back,
      are debased women.

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  62. on March 30, 2012 at 11:47 pm Isaac Asstomouth

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 3:15 pm Fred Rotten

      Dammit, I could kick myself for not thinking up “Isaac Asstomouth” as my user name!!! When I first saw it awhile ago, my eyeball nearly popped out of it’s socket for laughing so hard.

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  63. on March 30, 2012 at 11:55 pm Traveller

    Good as usual.

    But well, betas are not so stupid, “something”, they suspect.

    It is not difficult spot the body language of a girl classmate, when she is with you and she wants help with homework, and when she is with another guy, touching and smiling (I remember well, been there, done that, as they say). This extends on the workplace too.

    The beta mantra “when I will be rich women will come to me” means the inconscious interpretation that women are all whores, if you dig enough.

    Information society helps too. We see the slut walks, the divorce laws, the violence chronicles etc.

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  64. on March 31, 2012 at 12:13 am Emilio

    As a guy on the brink of sexual awakening (19 years old)…. this post is liberating, awakening and thermo-charging my cock into a brilliant stone hewn masterpiece of God himself…..
    I am invincible. My dick is invincible. Let the seed spread far and wide……. Boo-yaah.

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  65. on March 31, 2012 at 12:22 am Gator

    Still dont understand the universal horror of being an “orbiter”. I have friends that are women that I don’t sleep with. You say they “use” me for emotional support. Yeah – that’s what friends do. It’s not exploitative. I fuck other girls and don’t panic about it. This will never make sense to me.

    [heartiste: most beta orbiters are not getting sex on the side, and so they suffer.]

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 4:05 am Older Alpha

      If you want to just be a friend, that’s fine. But many of the beta orbiters want a sexual relationship, but the girl keeps them in the friend zone. So they keep orbiting, hoping that someday she will change her mind. Hope can be a terrible thing, when it keeps you from facing the truth.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 4:10 am xsplat

      If you use a transactional point of view, and include into it that women respond to attention as if it’s some sort of payment, then you’ll take the view that paying attention to women should yield some reward.

      Beta orbiters hope to eventually receive the reward of intimate sex. Daily they are saving their pennies in the piggy bank, hoping to one day break it open and cash in big. They spend on her with attention.

      If you are feeling rewarded by your association with platonic women and harbor no ulterior motives for associating with them, I wouldn’t call that orbiting.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 4:32 am james

      I have been an orbiter, it is not fun. The hot chicks that DON’T tell you the details of their sex lives are the kind ones.

      Now a few years later I still have women friends I don’t sleep with whom I sometimes catch up with for coffee and a chat, but usually there are VERY good reasons why I am not sleeping with them and the conversations tend to revolve around my sex life more than theirs.

      An orbiter is a man who is NOT sleeping with women as hot as the friend, or more to the point is incapable of doing so.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 12:07 pm Obstinance Works

      A waste of time unless she is super hot and can be used to game more leverage. Time is of the essence.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 2:54 pm thunear

      IME, being an orbiter is a disaster. Women should see you as a sexual being. If they feel safe in your company, then you have failed as a man. The women around you should not want to be alone in a room with you “because things might just happen”.

      I used to, many years ago, kid myself that I had female friends. But they weren’t really friends, they were girls who were around because they wanted me as a bf, but were too scared to make a move. I didn’t make a move on them because I thought I could do better. I did do better.

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    • on April 1, 2012 at 12:46 pm Anonymous

      As I mentioned above, an “orbiter” these days is often a male who is friends with a woman on Facebook but she has never been nor wants to ever meet him out for coffee or anything else one on one. She’ll be glad to collect your “likes” however.

      Men should be executed for “liking” the photos of women they’d like to fuck. I’ve had dozens of women confirm to me that these men disqualify themselves as love interests when they like her photos.

      If she does meet with you and you really want to have sex with her more than the women you are getting elsewhere, you are still in a bad position as an “orbiter”. So “I fuck other girls” isn’t enough information. The main point is whether these other girls are as good or better than the woman you are just friends with.

      There’s nothing wrong with being just friends with lots of women whom you don’t prefer over others and don’t have time to get into bed with.

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    • on April 1, 2012 at 5:59 pm Pete

      Its a little more than that. Many of these girls, especially the hot young ones, have no qualms in using their feminine charms and a little bit of flirting to get their work done so they can go off and play.

      If it was really “friends that are women” then there wouldn’t be the hope of someday sex in the picture.

      Its the same as an alpha man keeping a mistress on the side with the promise (said or unsaid) of eventually divorcing his wife and elevating her by making her his wife.

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  66. on March 31, 2012 at 12:29 am Survivorman

    I could have really — *REALLY* used these little pearls of wisdom about, oh..

    35 freaking years ago !!!

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 12:04 pm Obstinance Works

      You should have read Proverbs.

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    • on April 1, 2012 at 11:56 am scilliam@yahoo.com

      Fucking-A!

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    • on April 1, 2012 at 12:40 pm Anonymous

      It’s not too late for you.

      But, damn, it almost is in terms of getting the prime cuts and, for that, men over 45 need to be pissed off that American society fucked us over the way it did by not teaching us about women’s true nature.

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      • on April 2, 2012 at 10:24 pm Older Alpha

        That’s why I say the hell with society. I do what is good for me, not what is good for society.

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  67. on March 31, 2012 at 1:00 am JP

    Yes, as soon as I stopped caring, I started getting laid. It’s a shame, isn’t it.

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  68. on March 31, 2012 at 1:01 am I, The Witchfinder

    I’d say it’s also how civilization *needs* it. A million million betamales working much, much harder than they have to to support a million million ever-fattening wives and kids from 2 fathers. All because the men haven’t seen behind that curtain.

    I was beta in my teens. I followed around one hot girl in particular like a puppy. She was more than content to let me lavish attention on her. All she had to do was say “Oh maybe we’ll be something more *soon*”

    The first bit of the curtain falling was the return of a very alpha childhood friend of mine in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. He wound up back at his hometown after formative years spent in the erotic and narcotic cauldron of New Orleans. He took this girl’s virginity in less than a week.

    That shattered most of my illusions in a stroke. I saw it all laid bare and very, very personal: Women’s behavior and preference, different kind of men’s behavior, differing outcomes and above all, brutal, brutal INEQUITY to it all.

    I remember this vividly across my adolescence. I learned to shed the behaviors and mentalities that made me the guy writing notes to a girl for a year instead of the one who fucks her in a week. I found this blog in about ’09 and it was as if someone had codified the lessons I’d seen here and there on my own. It was like reading a manual on women.

    There’s simply no way a woman could ever hold power over me anymore. When any one woman can be cast aside and another found, her threats become very, very idle. When you let this be known to them in a sly, appropriate way, they stop entirely. Then I knew I could never go back to the beta male view of the world and sex.

    But what got left behind was…more or less the reason to ever work much more than you want to.

    So I joined that growing segment of young men, the libertine lumpen-proletariat. I work so that I can afford whatever modest things I want and then cycle through women as a skittles man. I scoff at the idea of marriage and any girl that wants to extract cash instead of semen from me. I take care of my body and ignore the dictates of the old, withered, unhappy people who came before me, wanting me to slave away for mammon and mammories when both can be had quite cheap if you know how to haggle for them.

    I used to feel a little remorseful. Here I am contributing much, much less to society than I *could* or *should*. But then I realized, if society needs so much suffering, so much misplaced effort just to function, it sounds like it needs to be scrapped and rebuilt anyway.

    So I join you, poolside.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 4:23 am Older Alpha

      Smart man. At age 55 I’m still slacking and still gaming. I actually worked fairly hard in my youth, but instead of wasting my money on women (or on status symbols designed to attract women), I saved my money and retired at an early age. I haven’t worked at all for many years. I live off my investments. My game is good enough that I can still bang women without spending a penny on them. The feminists and social conservatives both consider my life to be an abomination, but I consider that a compliment.

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  69. on March 31, 2012 at 1:05 am LBK

    Many betas don’t want to believe the truth. It is disconcerting, to say the least, to realize that women crave sex but not with you. It is much more comforting to believe that women are virtuous chaste creatures who don’t really want sex.

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    • on April 1, 2012 at 5:34 pm Bill Brasky

      “It is disconcerting, to say the least, to realize that women crave sex but not with you.”

      To say the least, indeed.

      It gets clearer and more surreal the further you back away from it and see the big picture.

      A young woman’s entire life is basically built around sexually advertising herself to, clinging to, and chasing a perceived high-status man. More often, a string of them.

      First thing she does in the morning is get up and paint her face to make herself look younger and more full of life. Obsessing over fashion, status-driven “career” advancement, all of it…its all about sex with someone who is not you, but who’s very appeal is defined by your relatively lower status.

      You look around and think, “well, there’s an even number of guys and girls, why is it so hard? Why do I have to stand so high above the rest just to get an average-looking girl interested in me?”

      “Oh…its because of what my father’s generation has done to our culture over the past 40 years. The same generation who berates me for not wanting to work 80 hours a week to keep the zombified corpse of western civilization stumbling along?”

      “Cool.”

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      • on April 3, 2012 at 5:22 pm Fearless

        “You look around and think, “well, there’s an even number of guys and girls, why is it so hard? Why do I have to stand so high above the rest just to get an average-looking girl interested in me?”
        – Don’t forget the cankled hordes of obese wimminz artificially fucking up the SMP. Avg chicks with no physical redeeming qualities besides a warm twat get treated like demi-gods at my college. Even the fatties have orbiters, it’s enough to drive a man mad.

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  70. on March 31, 2012 at 1:11 am whorefinder

    Bingo. Mega-Dittos. Exactly.

    Three points

    1. I was this beta before game. Wondering why I never got the girl, why I got blue balled, why, even though I was “everything” girls said they wanted, I never got wanted.

    Now I know. And knowing is half the battle.

    2. On another note, your closing sentence is the truest of all : And that’s exactly how women want it.

    This is why feminazis and non-feminazis alike get so infuriated with game.

    They like the fact that many men are instinctually clueless about alpha-dom and females true nature, since it points out to them the “natural” alphas that, before DNA testing, and, more so, before monogamy, they would have mated with such naturals whilst betas were forced to protect and support their alpha-offspring. Now, with game, a beta can overcome his “natural” betaness whilst also having that natural subservience to women eroded by knowledge of how women really are—tearing asunder the key pillars of female hypergamy in society–namely, that betas will always be betas, and be there to keep society going, whilst females have consequence-free lives. Game destroys that dream.

    3. This is also why manginas get so upset at game and try to attack it.

    True beta males/omegas believe this is all “misogyny” and attacks on their pretty princess’s virtue.

    Sociopathic, mangina-manipulators (like Hugo Schwyzer, Bill Clinton, and John Edwards) have learned that spewing beta bullshit feminism while attain alpha-positional status is their best resource to pussy; however, if average joes start out-alphaing them or calling them out on their behavior, they lose, since their alpha-ness is really the one-eyed-man-in-the-land-of-the-blind, and not absolute ability.

    And, finally, many a bitter beta, like one of Plato’s prisoners in the cave, will still attempt to slaughter anyone who comes bearing the truth—too afraid to admit their own errors, secretly believing every game PUA’s logic, but terrified in having bought into a false god, they double down, somehow thinking that over belief will change reality.

    The last group remind me of what John Rhys-Davies, the conservative actor, once said about Margaret Thatcher. He was a leftist activist when she came to his university to speak, and his group wanted to boo and shout her down. Davies noted that the reason they wanted to shout her down so much was that they were all secretly afraid that she was right.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 3:21 am Libertardian

      “2. On another note, your closing sentence is the truest of all : And that’s exactly how women want it.

      This is why feminazis and non-feminazis alike get so infuriated with game. ”

      I can imagine what Heartiste has to filter from these comments. I’ve seen it on other, unmoderated boards – drag the hamster out into the harsh light of day and he morphs into a wounded velociraptor. The hysterical, jaw-snapping, venom-dripping battle fury is a sight to behold.

      As Morpheus says in the Animatrix: “They know you know. Get out, now.”

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 8:04 pm Stuki

      “They like the fact that many men are instinctually clueless about alpha-dom and females true nature, since it points out to them the “natural” alphas that, before DNA testing, and, more so, before monogamy, they would have mated with such naturals whilst betas were forced to protect and support their alpha-offspring.”

      This is really waaay off. Rather than the problem being that “some alphas” get all the pussy, it is “who” is getting it. And “what” one has to do to get it.

      In free and healthy societies, those males getting to the apex, and who consequently gain the most mating opportunities, are those whose contributions to the welfare of their “underlings” warrant such status. After all, if a society is free, noone will submit to someone unless he gets more out of it than he puts in. Otherwise he’ll just leave, or casually whack the alpha pretender or something.

      The problem in our contemporary Western dystopias, is that what increases ones “alphatude” is completely at odds with societal survival. “Our” alphas are almost (not entirely, but close enough) of the parasitic kind; as in, people who takes more away from their surroundings than they contribute. In free societies competing with eachother, any society that elevates parasites, assholes and “dark triangle” thugs to alpha status, will be out competed by less dysfunctional societies.

      Which is exactly what we are seeing in Western Europe with their rapidly growing and non assimilating Muslim immigrants. As much as the various progdrones and “white supremacists” and whatnot might complain, facts are, the Salafi model is superior to “ours.” Period. Stoning adulteresses and shelling whole villages for refusing to cough up a rapist for public hanging, is superior to watching lawyers on TV and sitting around like a bunch of flat footed fatsos talking about being “tough on crime” or some other nonsense.

      What’s sad, is that I seriously doubt the Salafis have discovered the One True Way. Too many of their customs stike me as severely counterproductive. it’s just that compared with progressivism, even something as backward as that, is such a giant leap forward that they’ll eat us alive and leave us for dead in little more than a century or two.

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      • on April 2, 2012 at 8:32 pm Anon

        Spot on.
        The funny thing is that the muz are convinced that islam will ultimately prevail. Because allah wants it that way.

        They might be right, even though they will never know the real reasons, they will only see their god’s hand.

        I simply hope I will have scored enough pussy by then.

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      • on April 3, 2012 at 7:19 am Thanatosis (@lmMirin)

        This pollyanna good bad/dichotomy is hilarious~!

        You seem to still believe in blank slate/ all men created equal.

        You still got some growing up to do.

        Just because you find a particular strategy abhorrent due to your social programming doesn’t make inherently negative.

        I’m sure your ideological rigidity will prevent you from processing that gem. But due to my concern for my fellow man I tried to show you the light 😉

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  71. on March 31, 2012 at 1:33 am Anonymous

    Damn straight. From a chick in Paris… you do the math.

    “What American Men Can Learn From French Men About Sex,” by Amanda Chantel, Your Tango, 29 Mar 2012
    http://www.yourtango.com/2012147482/french-men

    “… I briefly bonded with a Frenchman over NYC [New York City] and after a mere 30 minutes into our conversation, he asked if I wanted to go some place to “f**k.” My answer, in that case, was obvious. I mean, he was gorgeous.”

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 2:06 am (R)evoluzione

      Just read that article. It’s an implicit endorsement of direct game, from an NYC “woman with standards.”

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      • on March 31, 2012 at 3:55 am Libertardian

        I tried, but I could feel my brain cells committing suicide after two paragraphs of that arrogant drivel.

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      • on March 31, 2012 at 8:29 am Harland

        It’s a rewording of this 13 year old The Onion article. Read and compare: http://www.theonion.com/articles/european-men-are-so-much-more-romantic-than-americ,11552/

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      • on March 31, 2012 at 5:57 pm Anon

        DIrect game mileage varies, depending on whether you’re considered a “gorgeous” guy or an “older man”:

        “there are no games. The last time I was here an older man suggested we go someplace to “make love until we cry.” I thanked him and said no.”

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      • on March 31, 2012 at 8:37 pm me

        The article “What American Worthless Masculine Female Pigs Can Learn from Feminine Women from (ad country here)” of course would be worth reading.

        Ignore all articles written by women even if they somewhat support your claims. They’re always terrible and stupid and boring, written by imbeciles with absolutely no self-knowledge. and..Oh my God google the author..hideous woman. Good god she’s ugly. holy shit

        “Amanda Chatel”

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      • on April 2, 2012 at 3:59 pm Fred Rotten

        Wow, I never knew Mark Mothersbaugh quit Devo, changed his name to Amanda Chatel, and started writing internet drivel.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 3:05 am whorefinder

      lol. I read her profile/other articles. Seems she has a “no white socks” rule (what????!) as well as “asshole” rule (or “preference”).

      So she’s mind-bogglingly insane about what she deserves (she even quotes Marylin Monroe to say that “if you can’t like me at my worst, you don’t deserve me at my best”—honey, not even Marylin was worth all her insanity beyond a few pump-and-dumps) while never fixing her own mega-problems.

      But at least she admits that chicks dig jerks and direct game works with her skanky ass.

      So hilarious.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 8:14 pm Anonymous

      Another woman explains why Betas suck for them…

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      • on April 1, 2012 at 1:07 pm Anonymous

        So be like this… chicks dig this, apparently.

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      • on April 2, 2012 at 3:18 am Anonymous

        Or, at least, that’s what women take for Alpha nowadays… do what that guy describes, close enough for their not naive/weak/boring perception for the F-close.

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      • on April 6, 2012 at 6:26 am Anonymous

        Confirmation… how to be a Mangina! (Pay attention ’til the end.)

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    • on April 1, 2012 at 5:05 pm George Garner

      Umm, the key word seems to be “gorgeous”. If he looked like most of us chumps it wouldnt have happened.

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 6:11 pm Money Shot

      some great reader comments in that you tango post. all the huffy US spinster broads making predictable comments about wanting to be anybody’s easy lay.

      and then there’s the french guy who says he never talks to a girl for more than 10 minutes before asking if she want to go somewhere for sex. and what he hates about american women is how often they haven’t got breakfast ready when he wakes up — that’s how he knows she’s not worth a call back.

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  72. on March 31, 2012 at 1:53 am (R)evoluzione

    Irridescent prose. Bravo, bravo. This is lucid, inspiring writing. Gotta read it again just for the linguistic steez.

    The observation is spot on, too, except that the alpha/beta dichotomy isn’t always so clear cut. For us born as higher betas, lesser alphas, the girls we disdain, the girls to which we really didn’t care for, did and do come on very strong, displaying their moist, soft center for their perceived alpha. But I saw the deepest trenches of beta hell due to my early penchant for wicked one-itis.

    That time is now done, and having resolutely crossed the XX Rubicon, there is no looking back. Onward, upward. Higher, further, faster. Some of today’s previous commenters here have written about having reservations, about having not fully absorbed and metabolized the Red Pill teachings. Gentlemen, you fight against the truth. Embrace it. With it, your true humanity, which is both rational intellect and raw mammalian vigor. We need both, but it is the embrace of the true animalistic nature which brings freedom, freedom from political correctness, freedom from feminization, freedom to seek and embody our truest masculinity.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 2:13 pm John McNeal

      Well said but still the question remains:What about children?

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  73. on March 31, 2012 at 2:15 am Jake

    Recently discovered game and read all your posts as well as guys like Rollo Tomassi and Dalrock. Your voice on things is very refreshing! Could you tell me what is your opinion on some other Game bloggers? Who else do you think has a wealth of knowledge out there that should be utilized by a newbie?

    Also, my introduction to this whole game manosphere thing was a site:

    http://www.solvemygirlproblems.com

    I value your opinion on a great deal of topics and would appreciate hearing your take on that site which first introduced me to the concept of “unplugging”, “red pill”, “feminization”, etc…

    If you have the time, could you also check out that site and tell me what you think of it and the author?

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  74. on March 31, 2012 at 3:15 am Emma the Emo

    That’s why women who fear game and think it will turn everyone into a jerk have nothing to worry about. Even if all this is revealed, many betas won’t believe it and women will have plenty of non-jerks to choose from if that’s what they wanted. And even if they do believe in game, women can always say “NAWALT” and he might believe you and treat you like a special snowflake. But it won’t work with a beta who got badly burned or robbed in divorce – they won’t trust a woman.

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  75. on March 31, 2012 at 3:25 am Big Game Hunter

    Looking back at my life being a beta, I think that first time I really realized something was wrong about how I viewed women was way back in grade school, when I was barely a teenager.

    I had a good friend, let’s call him Sam. He was a notoriously loyal guy. If someone messed with me, he took offense before I did, and if there was any risk of fight, he was ready to play immediately to protect me. We’d have the best of times, running around in the woods and building shit and watching movies and playing all sorts of games. But I always thought of him as a real dick to girls. You know, he was the kind of guy who’d tease the better looking girls all the time, make jokes about them, playfully steal and hide their stuff and clothes and what not. And when he felt like it, he’d literally grab their ass or tits no matter who was looking. The girls would always have the same reaction, as if they did not like it at all, but somehow their eyes and faces betrayed some conflict with the words. And then there was the reality that as I was trying to be a romantic gentleman because that’s what I believed in and how I was raised, I was barely getting the obligatory kiss from such girls playing truth or dare or spinning the bottle or what not, while Sam was… well, getting whatever the hell he wanted. And it wasn’t that the girls were nasty to me or anything. No, they were real nice and seemed to enjoy being around me – I got friend-zoned and well, but I didn’t understand that back then – just that there seemed to be no chance of getting what Sam was getting. Once I even confessed to one girl I really liked that I loved her, and she was very polite in turning me down, telling me she loved me as a friend. And I was fucking puzzled. I was better looking than Sam, more clever, more polite, more romantic, more helpful. Why the hell was he the one who could get them undressing for him and I was just a friend. I knew there was something messed up somewhere, and I figured there was something wrong about how I thought of women, but my beta mind reduced it to just some trick of Sam’s that I didn’t know of that would make girls interested, your know, maybe some really kickass romantic one-liner that would make up for all his rude groping and joking and make the girls fall for him totally like he was some poet. I respected him a lot, and I didn’t want him to think I was a pussy, so I never asked him what his trick was. I probably should have. Sam wasn’t the worst part. The same better looking, hot girls frequently fell for the older guys, a class or two or three above us in school, and I couldn’t put two and two together even seeing that.

    The worst of it is, so early, there were so many opportunities for me to understand. Due to my parents’ jobs, I sometimes got into contact with foreign families in ways that wouldn’t happen to pretty much anyone else around where we lived then. Sometimes said families included attractive daughters, and since I was good at English even in that age, again due to my parents, I had the opportunity to actually communicate with them. With a couple I even sorta managed some semi-romantic or curious relationships, which was of course a big deal to inexperienced old me. But it was a much bigger deal to the local girls who thought of me as just friends. Never did they show so much interest in me as in those times when they’d seen or heard of me spending time with those foreign girls, and once, when half my class saw me kiss with this one pretty Italian girl, for the next month or so, I was as popular as Sam. It seemed to be irrelevant what I did: I could be my polite self or something completely preoccupied with other stuff, the girls would randomly come to me and playfully tease me and touch me on the arm or thigh or whatever and ask me questions about her. And Sam? Sam would just smile, the way he so often did, no matter whether it was him knowing some secret trick move in a video game we played together or remembering something in history class that I didn’t even though that was my favourite class in school. He’d smile and pat me on the back. I wish I had understood then exactly why the girls cared so much about my contacts with those foreign chicks, and why it made me popular for a while.

    It took me painfully many years to finally understand exactly what women are really like – not the kind of kind-hearted chaste romantic angels I’d always imagined and wanted them to be and as I was raised to believe them to be. If it wasn’t for guys like Sam, and even more so guys like our host Heartiste, I still wouldn’t understand, not really. Now, I’m still a real beta at heart, but know at least how to fake it until I make it. Sometimes I still hate the fact that I can’t act around girls the way I would naturally want to act, that I have to act like someone I’m really not and take for myself this attitude that really isn’t naturally mine, like I have to act someone else. It takes lots of effort sometimes. Sometimes I can’t respect women when I see now what they’re like: how can you respect someone who scorns kindness and gentleness and protection and gets wet for someone who abuses them verbally and physically? But then I tell myself they can’t help it, anymore than the dog can help sniffing people’s crotches. He’s a dog, that’s what he does. That doesn’t mean he won’t love you if you treat him right. But really, I sometimes wonder if women are even capable of real love towards anything except perhaps their children. Sometimes it’s really hard to believe they are. Sometimes it feels they really only love themselves, and how some alpha makes them feel – if someone comes along and makes ‘em feel even better, their love switches targets like a sniper aiming at a regular soldier suddenly spotting a counter-sniper team gunning for him. It feels impossible to imagine a woman would be ready to die for a man, except only in a perverted sense of killing herself to end some pain he was inflicting on her. And I feel sad, knowing as I think I do that I’ll never be able to be in a relationship with a feminine, attractive, intelligent woman who I can trust to really love me for the rest of my days, to raise our children together with me, and never to abandon me, like I’d never abandon her. I can’t have that, because women can’t be trusted like men.

    And then I get angry and decide I don’t give a fuck. Now, I know how to make many of the kind of women I would like to have sex with give me what I want. I can be Sam now, when I want to. What should I care about the rest of it? And yet I really do. Which is why I’ll always be beta, I guess, no matter how many pretty girls I get in my bed. Sure beats being a sexless beta, though.

    Exit stage BGH.

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 8:47 pm Lara

      “not the kind of kind-hearted chaste romantic angels I’d always imagined”

      Women can be kind hearted, even to betas. That still doesn’t mean we want to sleep with you.

      “It feels impossible to imagine a woman would be ready to die for a man”

      Women aren’t heroic.

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      • on April 3, 2012 at 10:23 am Big Game Hunter

        “Women can be kind hearted, even to betas. That still doesn’t mean we want to sleep with you.”

        Oh, they can be, and frequently are. It’s just not their nature to be kind-hearted. They have to choose to do it, like an act, and they seem to do that when there’s something in it for them, like using the poor beta as an emotional toy or slaving him for some physical work she fears would fuck up her nails. The nature of it seems to be that if she can’t or doesn’t feel like she needs anything from said beta, the woman will entirely ignore her like he wasn’t a human at all, not even a friendly animal, or will be hostile.

        “Women aren’t heroic.”

        Yeah, so many have noticed. But it’s more than that. At least, I believe it is. The way I see it, women are fundamentally incapable of experiencing the kind of profound romantic love men can experience. Loving their children deeply, women can do, as it’s a form of loving their own self. Loving another person of different blood profoundly? Harder or impossible, as compared to how often men experience such love. And they say men are the less romantic sex. Heh.

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  76. on March 31, 2012 at 3:28 am Jean-Luc LeGame

    You just described the “old me” to a T. And you did it with enviable style. Excellent writing.

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  77. on March 31, 2012 at 3:50 am AHE

    I don’t think young sluts realize what they’re doing. The culture tells them it’s normal. I’ve noticed feminists, when they do talk about having sex, often refer to it as “having fun”. Most men, on the other hand, whether alpha, beta or omega, wouldn’t think of sex as “having fun”. The old expression “the bedroom is a woman’s office” holds true. Women simply don’t think of sex as a big deal. It’s business, not personal. A horrifying truth to many of us men, however.

    The so-called “double-standard” is a fucking double-double-fake-out-double-standard. It’s women, not men, numbers-wise, who get away with excessive promiscuity without judgment in our culture. More men need to recognize early on that bitches ain’t shit.

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  78. on March 31, 2012 at 4:24 am Andrew S.

    How can you say beta men don’t see the alpha world. I’m beta, and remember seeing in junior high girls slutting it up for the the rougher kids and better looking boys. If betas don’t see the world that alphas live in it’s only because it hurts to much to dwell on what their fair princess is up to when not discussing the latest episode of Glee.

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  79. on March 31, 2012 at 4:34 am 40 year old Virgin

    “Wimminz get infuriated with game?” HAHAHA!
    Game gives them EXACTLY what they crave you morons. They are ecstatic to finally have that lone dick at those “GGGGGG parties”.
    Finally a weekend not spend sucking some thug or mob etc.criminal dick.

    Former betas turned alpha-gamers is like winning the lottery, and the money is gone just as fast.

    Good article, just missing the major point in the little world of betas. “We” don´t make the pedestal up, it´s hammered into us from earliest childhood by mass media and, yes, the closest female relatives.

    Blessed are those among us who actually have a mother worth her salt, that managed to gain a rudimentary form of self-reflection to warn her male offspring of the mercenary female nature.
    This usually falls on very deaf ears though, as the societal programming is just too effective, unless there´s a sister providing irrefutable behavioral evidence.

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  80. on March 31, 2012 at 6:52 am Mexican Pete

    The secret society does exist folks. It just doesn’t accept us as members.

    I knew a man who was on the fringes of the “Secret Society”. He was the classic case of a beta who’d developed a nuclear arsenal of charm. He had a series of interchangeable 8.5+ girlfriends, who clearly adored him. All were models and dancers. The first man to tell me never buy girls drinks.

    His secret: Game and his job: accountant for a major fashion firm. He and Jesus the doorman were the only two normal men in the whole firm.

    He blamed modern parenting for the beta epidemic. Sons were indoctrinated in feminism by their mothers; while their fathers either (a) bolted with other women; (b) left themselves get neutered; or (c) not be honest enough to tell their sons about the true nature of women.

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  81. on March 31, 2012 at 7:06 am Mexican Pete

    The other thing worth noticing is how, prior to the feminist revolution, just how alpha most of our forefathers were.

    If you see old photographs – they stand proudly, chin raised: none of this stooping and slouching. In wedding pictures (and no 15k for flowers back then) they are clearly the shot-callers.

    They faced grim living conditions, high mortality rates and none of our luxuries, but they piss confidence.

    The poorest men one hundred years ago had one great advantage on the richest men today: They could be masters of their own household.

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  82. on March 31, 2012 at 7:43 am JT

    Absolutely true. When I first heard of Mystery’s “7 hour rule” I thought it was impossible, that stuff does not happen, at least not with anything resembling a decent girl. At the time, it was so far out of my reality that I almost refused to believe it, believing it would be an admission of how wrong I was; I’d feel a failure. I continued to read ‘the game’ as though it was entertaining fiction.. I then read the majority of the original seduction newsgroup (still amazed mrnyc just disappeared, that guy stood out beyond everyone), realized this stuff is for real, these guys actually figured it out, rather methodically, too. This stuff happens far more often than any beta will ever fathom. How wild life can be, the situations you can find yourself in, they would have to be tamed down to be believable in a movie. I started acting out some lines and attitudes, how I behaved was absolutely not who I was inside. I got a SNL around my 6th day approach… what happened that night and how innocent I thought she was… that changed me.

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  83. on March 31, 2012 at 7:55 am walawala

    “”As for the women, those few who have not experienced the thrill of the alpha male often are nearly as chaste as the beta imagines, because they have never been tempted. All they know are a parade of beta males, whom they lash out at occasionally for unwittingly stifling their truest desires, but who, for the most part, they treat in a nontoxic manner that buttresses heavenly notions about their secretive natures. A woman is ever aware of the precariousness of her reputation, and this goes double in rural outposts of heavy religiosity.””

    This is a big sexual dynamic in Hong Kong where local guys pedestalize women and treat them either like a creepy uncle would treat a niece he’s obsessed with or where they shy away from anything sexual.

    By contrast, when I apply game techniques, the reaction is almost instant. They go from sleepy, half dozed to wide-eyed and giggly.

    Often women do get angry at the sheer audacity of a direct approach and shit test.

    They get mean sometimes saying nasty shit.

    One girl I’m gaming even said “I can really push your buttons…”

    To which I replied…” I doubt it…”

    That only makes them wetter.

    This same woman went on to describe my “animal magnetism”…

    My response to all of this was “Ok, we’ll go for drinks.”

    The old beta me would have collapsed like a souffle when the oven door opens blowing in a waft of outside air.

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  84. on March 31, 2012 at 7:56 am Ivar

    Every word of this rings true, but it is very, very grim. Still, it’s best not to be a chump.

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  85. on March 31, 2012 at 10:07 am Aristophanes

    A brilliant bit of prose. Thanks for that. I want to solicit a bit of advice from the commentariat here. I’m 31, married with two young children. I have a high-status career (I’m in a prestigious doctoral program, and I write for a number of elite publications), I am of average, or maybe above average looks, I dress well, and I comport myself well in conversation. I am not intimidated by famous intellectuals or beautiful women.

    However: I married my wife when I was 23 – we were both intensely religious and virgins at the time. Since then my religiosity has waned, my wife has gained a good deal of weight, and I’ve become deeply discontented with my sexless, passionless life.

    A few months ago, during a long, boozy night at the bar with some colleagues, a couple of my more attractive (and militantly feminist!) female colleagues opened up about their frustration at the lack of masculine men in our department. I drove one of them home, and when we pulled up to her place, I kissed her and told her I intended to have sex with her. There immediately followed two delightful hours of adultery. Since then I’ve slept with another young woman, and have fooled around on a couple of other occasions. I am shocked by the easy availability of sex, given my nearly decade-long struggle to get laid within marriage.

    So far, this change has had positive ramifications for my marriage. My wife doesn’t know everything, but she knows that “things” have happened. At the same time, I’ve become more assertive and less whiny / pitiable. I demand sex more, and she seems pleased. She’s known for years that I want her to lose weight, but she’s starting to make some minimal efforts now.

    However good things get, though, this will never be ideal. My wife was not an attractive woman when I married her (I didn’t think that mattered then – see religiosity) and she’s not aging well. I will always live with the knowledge that I have much more beautiful, intelligent, elegant women, who more closely share my interests, and are more impressed with my accomplishments. All things being equal, I’d leave tomorrow. But they’re not equal. I am entirely smitten with our son and daughter, and cannot countenance the possibility of their growing up without a father. So here I am.

    Here, finally, is the question: Should I keep up with the extramarital dalliances, hoping to effect a sort of Mad Men modus vivendi, in which a lackluster marriage is supplemented by suspected but politely hidden infidelity? Or should I man up, and fight to suppress my wanderlust, contenting myself with what gains can be made at home? I can see pluses and minuses on either side. What do you gents think?

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 2:25 pm Anon

      You had her when she was a virgin. That means a lot.

      Keep your cake and keep eating it. Faithful woman at home. Feminist shrikes and sexy flings on the side… That’s living the dream, bro.

      It’s better than getting a messy divorce, hurting the kids, and developing some fucked up oneitis on a meaningless fling.

      Realizing that women are monsters who would ditch a decent guy for a sexy lover given half a chance doesn’t mean that you should do the same.

      Just keep making her wet and fucking her good, she will end up losing that fat.
      Nice faithful women are rare these days, they don’t deserve to be easily discarded.

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 3:49 pm Anon

      My vote is divorce, if your bank account can handle it.

      Divorce doesn’t hurt young kids if their father is present. However, growing up with a father who doesn’t have the balls to leave a situation probably rubs off on the kid when they get old enough to see through you & it affects their future relationship coping strategies. You don’t want to teach your kids that it’s ok to be unhappy.

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      • on April 4, 2012 at 2:52 am Glengarry

        Unhaaapy. Are you a woman?

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 7:16 pm Sulla

      When I first read your comment, I thought I had entered a parallel universe, as your life is almost exactly like mine was.

      For me, the struggle is no longer having the same level of religiosity I once did, yet still having to deal with a social circle that is still fanatical.

      Since I went through the whole infidelity crisis before, I’ll just tell you what I think (I know it’s unsolicited- hope no one minds). Men, in my opinion, should realize that unless they have spent massive amounts of money on other women, they haven’t really done any lasting damage to anything. If you feel bad about what you’ve done, don’t do it again, but what you did will not bring on the end of the world. In a year you won’t really care either way. Male infidelity is not like female infidelity. It doesn’t necessarily destroy the family unit.

      Should you keep up the trysts? If you want a satisfying “sex life” then yes. If it’s no longer worth the dramatics, no. Your married life isn’t going to change. Nothing is going to change how boring marriage is. It sucks period- for everyone. Marriage is like having your house destroyed by a tornado. It’s happened and it will affect everything. Things happen to some men and they can’t be undone, just endured.

      With that said, beware feminist academics, or any female academics for that matter. No one will stab you in the back faster than an academic. A black hat DI on black Friday will be kinder to you than any academic.Stop seeing them. They will condemn you the minute any ounce of regret sets in.

      My two cents.

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    • on April 3, 2012 at 9:47 am Lara

      I don’t think your wife is attracted to you anymore. If she is trying to lose weight, she might be doing it with another man in mind.

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  86. on March 31, 2012 at 11:06 am Anonymous

    Everyone is like “this is the best post ever”.
    WTF? Most of the archives are best posts ever. The style and deep insight are no longer a surprise.

    You are on Heartiste’s blog for fuck sake. Just open your mouth and say nothing.

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  87. on March 31, 2012 at 11:20 am Obstinance Works

    Off the charts: a masterpiece of sexual market dynamics knowledge. The secret society concept is powerful. Watch for it. Act accordingly.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 11:24 am Obstinance Works

      If after reading this you still deny the concept of game, you have an agenda and cannot be trusted.

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      • on April 2, 2012 at 7:23 pm Fred Rotten

        @ Obstinance Works

        “If after reading this you still deny the concept of game, you have an agenda and cannot be trusted.” Or you’re a woman.

        Wait a minute: …agenda…cannot be trusted… Oh, you *were* talking about women!

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  88. on March 31, 2012 at 11:59 am Obstinance Works

    I had a vague awareness of the secret society from experience but after I read that summary repose by Touch Down awhile back I had complete confidence in his expertise. That and the fact his boyfriend destroyer tactics have a place in my gamer toolshed.

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    • on March 31, 2012 at 12:01 pm Obstinance Works

      that last one was meant for social kenny’s tyler durden comment

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  89. on March 31, 2012 at 12:18 pm the unindoctrination has commenced

    oh i just got stung with that one, was in an ltr, she didnt put out for two months, 3 months in while she was qualifying herself to me after two bottles of vino decides to tell me she was badly hurt by her last boyfriend, went travelling and had a few one night stands? how many is a few i may ask, to which the reply is four and a few other hook ups.
    Am i going to pay full price for a new porsche 911 if ive found out that some tossers being doing doughnuts in it round the car park for free for a few weeks, your damn sure im not. Blow the relationship clean out of the water. Next.
    never ever worth the wait ever. Oh the lessons learned the hard way..

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  90. on March 31, 2012 at 12:50 pm Alex

    one your best, if not the best article you’ve written. truly, well done. only wish it didn’t hit so close to home lol

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  91. on March 31, 2012 at 12:51 pm Rex

    Holy shit is this depressing. Back to the upbeat game articles CH!

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  92. on March 31, 2012 at 1:04 pm Libertardian

    This is so shocking I’m posting it in full.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2123127/Mother-jailed-telling-ex-13-YEARS-childs-dad—taking-50-000-presents-private-education.html

    “Mother conned ex into thinking he was her child’s father for 13 YEARS (and swindled him out of £50,000 for presents and private education)

    A mother who conned a former lover into thinking he was the father of her daughter for more than 13 years has been jailed.

    The 47-year-old, who cannot be named for legal reasons, swindled him out of at least £48,700 which went on private education and expensive gifts.

    She admitted 15 offences of deception when she appeared at Caernarfon Crown Court, in north Wales, yesterday.

    And despite a plea for leniency from her daughter, the judge told her he had no choice but to jail her for 20 months.

    Sentencing, Mr Recorder Duncan Bould, said: ‘The tentacles of your deception have spread emotionally far and wide. The plea by your daughter to avoid sending you to prison is heart-rending and one can understand why she makes it.

    ‘But the court must perform a public duty to punish those who behave in this seriously criminally wrong way as you have done to a large scale over a lengthy period.

    ‘I don’t feel I can properly accede to those pleas put forward for leniency to avoid an immediate custodial sentence.’

    The judge said the mother, who is from from Conwy county, had observed ‘all these tragedies evolving – she must bear a very heavy responsibility for that.’

    Prosecuting counsel Wyn Lloyd Jones said the victim and defendant had met in the 1990s. Weeks after their relationship ended, the woman rang him and they met at her parents’ home. She told him she was pregnant and lied that he was the father of the unborn child.

    The man spent three days with her in hospital, awaiting the birth. ‘He thought he had a daughter and immediately began to treat her as such. His family treated her as such. The real father was kept out of the picture,’ the prosecutor said.

    Soon after the birth the man formed a relationship with another woman who became his wife and they had children. ‘The fraud that took place over the years deprived him and his family of a huge amount of money which otherwise they would have been able to enjoy,’ counsel remarked.

    He paid nursery and school fees, medical expenses and the mum’s £3,000 credit card debt. ‘There were times when he struggled to pay. He had to work long hours to make ends meet,’ Mr Lloyd Jones explained.

    It wasn’t until 2008 that two mutual friends, one knowing the truth since before the birth, told the victim. ‘Perhaps not surprisingly he felt shocked and numb,’ the barrister said.

    One of the friends had witnessed the defendant and her sister arguing when she was pregnant – the sister wanting the victim to be told he wasn’t the real dad.

    The defendant had told the pal that the man had money and could support the child. ‘She had been to a private school, she wanted the child to have the same.’ She also wanted expensive presents for the girl, now 13, to keep up with school friends.

    After the bombshell, DNA testing was ordered by a court. Mr Lloyd Jones said : ‘He’s clearly been through a great deal including dealing with a very serious false allegation made by this defendant to the police.’

    Elen Owen, defending, said her client had large debts and was in no position to repay the money. The fraud wasn’t financially motivated, she said.

    Asked by the judge for the reason it occurred, counsel replied: ‘Because she was on a rollercoaster and there was no right time to tell somebody who thought he was the father of the child. She was in an almost impossible position so far as coming clean,’ counsel added.

    The girl can’t be identified.

    The victim, a middle-aged man, sat in court. But afterwards he declined to comment as he left with his wife.”

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 5:42 pm Anonymous

      Yeah! 🙂 ‘Ho got what wasn’t coming to her.

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      • on April 2, 2012 at 5:43 pm Anonymous

        “was” coming to her, as in jail.

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 6:16 pm Libertardian

      And back to our regularly scheduled FRA dystopia.

      http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2012/04/daughters_rape_lie_recanted_ka.html

      “The Cowlitz County prosecutor says she won’t charge a Longview woman who admitted she lied when she said her father raped her — sending him to prison for more than nine years.

      Prosecutor Sue Baur says charging Cassandra Kennedy might discourage girls from reporting sexual assaults.

      Now 23 years old, Kennedy says guilt prompted her to tell police in January that she lied as an 11-year-old in 2001 in Kalama.

      The Daily News reports her father, Thomas Edward Kennedy, denied the allegation but was convicted by a jury and sentenced in 2002 to more than 15 years in prison.

      Now 43, Kennedy was released last week and all charges against him were dismissed.

      Cassandra Kennedy says she lied because she was disappointed in her father after her parents divorced.”

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  93. on March 31, 2012 at 1:15 pm Fuckaire

    Eye’s Wide Shut – Tom Cruise playing the beta husband. He gets his eyes opened!

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  94. on March 31, 2012 at 1:28 pm Pkcd

    There was a time where I truly believed that women were innately respectable creatures. Then, one night in a college dorm, I heard the sound of a friend of mine who had a nice boyfriend getting pounded by a cocky asshole who just two hours ago she claimed to have hated. I was distraught, shocked, and disillusioned. Now I can easily discern the inconsistencies in reason and action with women, and I am a better man for it.

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  95. on March 31, 2012 at 1:46 pm Anonymous

    what a bunch of tools.

    and heartiste, when are you actually gonna start posting pics of the women you sleep with?

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  96. on March 31, 2012 at 2:12 pm John McNeal

    Not only does it describe ne to a T,as I have BEEN,but,having learned of Game,having experineced this in my own life,(as I have grown older I have gotten more attractive to women and have learned a few interesting things) it STILL describes me! While reading this post I was nodding along, but still, the thought came crawling back into me head,”Yes this is true for SOME women,but it certainly doesnt describe ALL women and..and…and..” I am a beta still,tho I may walk amongst you…

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  97. on March 31, 2012 at 2:14 pm carolyn

    ‘the wild female libido is insatiable, crass, debased. It is willing to surrender to the most vile sexual plunderings, screaming in ecstatic pleasure at every enthusiastically welcome violation.’

    the subtext i’m getting is that you feel female sexual ecstasy is a bad thing and degrades the woman experiencing it. i hope i’m wrong and you’re just indulging in your ever so entertaining but over the top literary style.

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    • on April 3, 2012 at 6:34 am P Ray

      Female sexual ecstasy with a whole bunch of guys before she “meets her husband” (read: GETS her husband”) is a very bad thing and degrades the woman experiencing it.
      Because it really makes her the kind of woman looking for the big payout following a divorce.
      It does make top-shelf hookers more attractive, as you both know: 1. the price of the product being sold, 2. the look of the product being sold.
      10 years, the money paid keeping you in the style you are accustomed to, and your degraded looks (after previously sleeping around with guys) …
      does not entitle you to half the wealth.
      I forgot to mention the sex that was probably not regular.
      As Chris Rock says … “I mean she can have the alimony, but I want some pussy payments.” After all, he was “accustomed” to that too.

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      • on April 3, 2012 at 2:10 pm carolyn

        no argument here about ‘divorce rape’.

        i was taking issue with ch’s apparent put-down of female sexual passion per se, an odd attitude for a professed libertine. i thought that question was settled a long time ago.

        [heartiste: you’ve misread me.]

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  98. on March 31, 2012 at 2:24 pm Shark

    Most beta males, even after “acknowledging” female secksuality, prefer to stay out of the loop. Imagine how tough it must be for any man to truly admit to himself that his perception of reality for the last few decades or so was inconceivably distorted by a social conditioning he never opted for.

    Hence why you have so many caring assholes. They may have made a superficial jump across the boundary, but they will forever harbor a resentful attitude from their past. Girlfriends that cheated on them, friends that never opened their hearts to them, women in general who have left a sour and corrosive aftertaste, one that will never wash away no matter how many future notches they acquire. And more than hating women, I suppose they hate themselves for their past complacency and self-emasculation.

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 12:19 pm GeishaKate

      And this is why it is so important to see the humanity in everyone. If you consider that both we (and our actions) are all interrelated, if we blame others, we are also blaming ourselves. If everyone is blameworthy, then everyone is also blameless. And while its unlikely that many of us will ever be able to live this way all the time, its certainly a peaceful path to attempt.

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      • on April 2, 2012 at 1:04 pm itsme

        gay

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      • on April 2, 2012 at 6:55 pm driveallnight

        NAGKALT!

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      • on April 2, 2012 at 7:34 pm Fred Rotten

        totally gay.

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      • on April 2, 2012 at 7:43 pm Fred Rotten

        Actually, Geisha, it’s exactly that kind of “menses and butterflies and gumdrops” crap that turned me beta in the first place! So even though I think you’re normally somewhat pretty cool, I’m afraid I still have to give that comment a “gay” rating. My hands are tied here.

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      • on April 2, 2012 at 8:14 pm GeishaKate

        No worries. I don’t think men and women are supposed to agree on this point 🙂 In fact, I think its probably important that they don’t. Its the woman’s role to be empathetic and seek intimacy, not the man’s.

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      • on April 2, 2012 at 9:04 pm driveallnight

        So gay you can see it from space.

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      • on April 2, 2012 at 9:22 pm GeishaKate

        Oh stop it and help untie Fred. He’s losing circulation!

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      • on April 2, 2012 at 11:32 pm driveallnight

        So gay I feel like Marvin Gaye.

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      • on April 2, 2012 at 8:10 pm Anon

        Females are definitely high on oestrogen or some shit.

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 7:45 pm Like a G-6

      You describe me. I dumped out of the market when I realized the tools I had been handed were useless, and were contributing to a non-stop cycle of being ignored. LJBFs everywhere, promptly followed by flat out silent treatment and avoidance.

      The aftertaste of the shit-shake I’d been served has made me permanently reject marriage and committance. I maintain higher standards now in looks and personality than I did before. I will likely sleep around on the one that I ‘convince’ we’re in a relationship with. I will redistribute the pain of my screwing 1000-fold.

      For what I was served in high school by you, I will serve to your sisters and daughters for the next 40 years.

      I don’t hate myself, I’m just highly disappointed in myself for buying the bullshit and being oblivious to reality. I cannot choose to do otherwise as my chick-reading skills are dirt poor. I couldn’t trust any of ’em in the West, under Western laws, now that I know what I know.

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 3:12 am Anonymous

        Mayhem from the Allstate commercials…

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  99. on March 31, 2012 at 2:43 pm Jerry

    There is much wisdom here. And it’s painful.

    I think most of us are taught to go out and find a “nice girl” and marry her, then stick with her no matter what. As an added bonus, to make it even more special, you can optionally choose to remain a virgin until you’re married. A totally beta approach. Odd thing is, I think it sometimes works, but only if you manage to find an extremely timid girl, who is more beta than you are. But usually it leads to emotional and financial ruin.

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    • on April 10, 2012 at 3:19 am Anonymous

      Set up to be paternity-frauded, divorced-raped and otherwise fucked-over by selfish, no-account ‘hos.

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  100. on March 31, 2012 at 3:02 pm Dan Fletcher

    I shudder to think that I would still be trapped in the beta-hell matrix had I not, by freak accident, stumbled upon this blog after hitting rock bottom.

    I had some inkling of game in me before. I knew to be aloof and not too clingy and it helped with the initial attraction of women. But it was all surface and no interior. Once I got even a little bit involved with a women the beta floodgates would come down, washing away whatever attraction I had established.

    It was a bit over a year ago that I first found this blog and had my eyes opened. It has been a long, hard road but I have improved. My social-status in university was severely stunted by some Freshman year blunders. Quite unfortunate considering how important social-circle game is in a small college. However I will be graduating soon and moving to a new city. A clean slate. I am very optimistic about it.

    I don’t feel like I’m full alpha yet. I have no rotation of women and probably a pathetic notch count compared to some of the guys on here. Yet I get better and better by the day and have pulled off some pick-up feats that have earned the praise of even my friends who are naturals. They see me as a worthy wingman now and we actively go on the hunt together. I plan to use my remaining months of college to push my limits to the breaking point, knowing that no matter how bad I fuck up, I will be gone anyway and none of it will matter. An attitude I should adopt full time, since I’ll eventually be a corpse.

    I have been happier this semester than any period that I can recall in my life. Thank you Heartiste and all the commentors for guiding this young man into a higher order of being.

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  101. on March 31, 2012 at 3:20 pm Three must-reads. « Haley's Halo

    […] The Reason Beta Males Pedestalize Women by Heartiste.  If you’ve ever wondered why there are so many guys out there who refuse to take the red pill or just can’t imagine that there are Good Girls who do Bad Things, this post explains it.  It’s the most succinct and clear (not to mention, entertaining) explanation of the origin of white knight dogma that I’ve ever read.  A sample: So you see, in the final analysis, it is very likely, by dint of the beta male’s ignorance, inexperience and habituated veneration of women and reflexive indulgence of women’s motives, that his view of women is severely constricted, child-like in its naivete. The beta male is not privy to what Tyler Durden famously called the secret society of women. He was never invited, and he was never apprised of the secret society’s goings-on by any woman in his life. He lives in a pinched world with only a peephole to the wonders beyond, given him not by insight but by stumbling into depravity or by the good grace of a sympathetic alpha male. As far as he knows, women don’t have much sex, and they are very nice and polite most of the time. […]

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  102. on March 31, 2012 at 3:47 pm Alphabetty

    Sound analysis, but I don’t think “parsimonious” means what you think it means. I have been told I am a rare creature – a woman who is in touch with her nature. I love cheating on my husband. The sex is worlds better than when I was single.

    I have long lost count of how many men I have slept with, but it is definitely well over 50. My husband was a virgin foreign medical resident when I met him. He was handsome, and soon to be wealthy, but he didn’t stand a chance. I continued dating other men through our courtship, and found a steady lover in a coworker a few months before I got married. That man fucked me the day before my wedding and has continued providing me the treatment I need till today, almost 2 years into my marriage.

    I very definitely have my cake and eat it too. My husband works hard, leaving him little time to wonder what his wife is up to. Now I just have to decide who the father of my first child will be…

    I love your site. Too bad my husband doesn’t have the time to stumble upon it…

    [heartiste: what’s the over/under on this comment being a troll?
    btw, if your story is true, then your hubby is a loser. it’s self-evident. no man who is a winner would openly tolerate a cheating wife, or be ignorant for so long of her trysts. no woman who truly respected her husband or was enamored of him would cheat on him for a period of two years running. so you are not, in fact, having your cake and eating it too, unless you define a loser husband as a piece of winner’s cake.]

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 2:13 pm Anon

      Fat cuckold fetishist fuck trolling from his mom’s basement…

      Or female sociopath. Rather rare, but they tend to be good lays if you’re on the right side of the fence.

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      • on April 3, 2012 at 7:08 am Thanatosis (@lmMirin)

        “Or female sociopath. Rather rare, ”

        LOL!

        We got a live one~

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      • on April 4, 2012 at 11:59 am Glengarry

        Hey, borderline/BPDs seem not too rare. Or maybe it’s just that they get around. (Case in point above, right?)

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      • on April 4, 2012 at 1:33 pm Anonymous

        Sounds like my ex-wife. Had no idea what the nympho was up too until ten years into marriage. But… I’m keeping most of the money and the kids most of the time. That’s killing her.

        So… 44 y/o greater beta dentist with two kids, introverted, now completely misogynistic… might as well geld myself.

        Do.not.marry. Let the species go extinct.

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 4:21 pm Libertardian

      If it’s a troll it’s a good one. And after all she’s just doing what we frequently observe here – use alphas for fucking and betas for money.

      There are women with underdeveloped hamsters (a genetic anomaly, perhaps) who can just tell the truth without a lot of silly post hoc rationalization and self-victimizing. They’re by far the type I prefer.

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 7:49 pm Like a G-6

      You are why I will never treat a woman that isn’t family with more than token respect.

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      • on April 2, 2012 at 8:14 pm Anon

        Wrong. Don’t ever take that kind of shit personally.
        That’s exactly what she wants.

        Reframe or ignore. Hoes will be hoes. Alphas keep walking.

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 8:20 pm Fred Rotten

      Hey Alphabetty, here’s how your comment comes across: “Dear Penthouse Forum, I never thought this would happen to a gal like me, but you see, I just love to blah blah blah blippity blah…”

      Totally fake, totally gay.

      Please kill yourself and get yourself out of the gene pool. Don’t think about it, just do it, NOW!

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    • on April 4, 2012 at 2:07 pm Stark

      Honesly, I should just send your post to 4chan, so that they’ll find out who you are and destroy your life.

      I think i’m gonna do just that, you seriously overestimate annonymity on the internet 🙂

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    • on April 10, 2012 at 3:15 am Anonymous

      Bitch be giving women a bad name.

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  103. on March 31, 2012 at 3:55 pm örjan senbom

    I can’t make sense of all this shit. I’m just one of the thousands of “forever-alones”. Raised by an emotionally abusive mom and a beta dad, I’m a life long involuntary beta (omega?) in my mid 20’s, though I don’t feel like one. Have a few friends and have gotten IOI’s from women, so I’m not socially retarded, but I have zero sexual experience with women.

    I’ve read most of the Heartiste and Roosh blog posts and I think it makes sense. I don’t pedestalize women, I don’t buy them shit nor do them favours. Granted, I don’t have any female platonic friends (just acquaintances) so there’s no one to pedestalize, really. Neither do I have the “beta view” on women as presented in this post. Yet I’m in a stand-still; after all these years I’m finally confident on my skills and abilities in most other fields in life and believe I can accomplish a lot of things, except for this one thing. I’ve talked to my friends about this but don’t really want to, even though it kind of makes sense considering that they’re a lot like me (we spend our days doing similar things, we’re not boring nor are we super fascinating) and they have girlfriends. I don’t think psychologists can help me, either, that’s why I post here (to hopefully get some advice). I’m beginning to realize that to get a girlfriend and/or sex I will have to expect hundreds of rejections as I make advances at women, something I really don’t care for–as if involuntary celibacy isn’t bad enough. I actually think this is my sticking point: rejection fucking sucks but I guess I have to “put my ass on the line”, so to speak. What the hell am I supposed to do? Have I already answered my own question?

    Add to this that I live in Sweden and am a native of this country, which gives a cultural component readers of this blog might not be familiar with, but if you can give me some pointers, go ahead.

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 4:36 pm Libertardian

      Step 1 is to get out of Sweden. Isn’t that the country where breaking a condom while you fuck means you’re a rapist? I just can imagine the mindset of the females there.

      It’s probably easier to find work in the EU, but your accent alone will open legs for you here in Seppostan.

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2042000/Not-sex-city–Study-shows-women-outnumber-men-FOUR-TO-ONE-parts-U-S.html

      “Some areas across the U.S. have become a ‘candy store’ for straight single men on the dating scene, leaving dismal prospects for young women because the male-to-female ratios are so incredibly skewed.

      In the 10001 zip code of Manhattan’s chic Chelsea district, 78 per cent of 20-year-olds are females, according to the new book Premarital Sex in America: How Young Americans Meet, Mate, and Think about Marrying.

      Authors Mark Regnerus and Jeremy Uecker say the Sex and the City fantasy is partly to blame, as more women flock to the Big Apple than men in a bid to have it all.” LOL!

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      • on April 3, 2012 at 5:55 am örjan senbom

        “Step 1 is to get out of Sweden. Isn’t that the country where breaking a condom while you fuck means you’re a rapist? I just can imagine the mindset of the females there.”

        Well, since I read Roosh’s posts on Denmark (which as far as I know is culturally quite similar to Sweden) and Poland I’ve entertained the thought. I’d prefer to deal with this predicament here at home but if I must become an ex-pat, I’ll do it, but not without good reasons (my personality, my stature, what women are like here, etc.). Which brings me to:

        “It’s probably easier to find work in the EU, but your accent alone will open legs for you here in Seppostan.”

        I had to Google “Seppostan”. I assume it means the USA. I believe I can find a job, but I read so much about American women being annoying cunts (but in a different way than girls around here, LOL)–I can’t just drink the kool-aid on this one. The USA is huge, is NY of particular interest? I reckon that my short stature is less of a problem in the US than here; I’m way below the average height for Swedish men.

        I do have a thick accent, though. Most Swedes try real hard to sound American when speaking English, but fail miserably, mostly given that they don’t have the vocabulary to back it up. It sounds quite funny!

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      • on April 4, 2012 at 2:12 pm Stark

        Leave Sweden anyway, your country is overrun by brutish muslim immigrants and politicians who sell your people and your women to a fake ideal of multiculturism, Sweden is so far on the path the destruction is inevitable, leave, just leave.
        Leave.

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    • on April 3, 2012 at 10:34 am YaReally

      ” I’m beginning to realize that to get a girlfriend and/or sex I will have to expect hundreds of rejections as I make advances at women, something I really don’t care for”

      I hear that. I want to learn to play the guitar, I just don’t want to have to play any wrong notes to do it. Can anyone give me a magic pill so I can just be able to play a song without having to make any mistakes or dedicate any amount of time or effort to it?

      Suck it up, buttercup! The journey is more fun than you think once you stop looking at it as constant rejection and more as constant experimentation. It’s not like you don’t get laid for 10 years of being shot down and then you finally get a girlfriend. There’s lots of little victories along the way.

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    • on April 3, 2012 at 12:55 pm Aspie Nerd

      Due to my Aspie nature, I can sympathize with some of what you say.
      Here is a tip, which I have practiced recently with a stunning brunette:
      when approaching, talking to her, and asking for her number or inviting her to have coffee with you right away or whatever, look into her eyes and control your posture, body language, and tone of voice: do not show any enthusiasm. It’s much easier to take rejection if you do not show much interest in the first place. All of this takes practice, of course.

      Likewise, if she says no, you can insist (I did, with the brunette) but in any case act like you are still in control. Try to leave before she does, and when you leave, don’t give the impression that you are running away. Then you have preserved your dignity.

      Coming to think of it, I did all of this with a schoolmate when I was 13, and I still took rejection pretty hard; but I suffered from one-itis at the time.

      I have seen two friends of mine in action, incidentally both of short stature for their countries. They show enthusiasm, but in a way that is funny rather than painful to watch: it’s obvious that they are putting on an act, and I myself am never sure if they are really interested in a girl or just trying to be funny. In this way they can easily shrug off rejection … and usually they do have to shrug it off. I tried it once a a party with two girls at once, just for fun, and it worked to a limited extent, but it’s not my style.

      I assume that some of the girls giving you IOIs are of interest to you, in which case you probably won’t get hundreds of rejections before your first success.

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  104. on March 31, 2012 at 4:30 pm Lele

    “Why do so many betas harbor gauzy delusions about female sexual nature?”

    Because people tend to harbor gauzy delusions about people, themselves included. This is why sources of worldly wisdom like CH are such a gift: they make all these pretty lies perish.

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  105. on March 31, 2012 at 4:51 pm Anonymous

    OT

    Cougar in love with a real gorilla:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2122679/The-gorilla-whisperer-The-woman-s-spent-years-family-gorillas-jungle–learnt-speak-language.html

    You can’t make that shit up

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 8:35 pm Fred Rotten

      Urgh. (*hands slowly wiping fatigue from eyes*)

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  106. on March 31, 2012 at 4:51 pm Demiurge

    This is why I only date trannies now.

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 1:05 pm itsme

      which bathroom do they use?

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      • on April 2, 2012 at 8:05 pm Demiurge

        The ones I date are hot women with a wiener so, Women’s. Some though…are terrifying. I’m sure they could go into one without screams and attempted rape lawsuits thrown at them because of the alliance feminism made with LGBT to keep them on relevancy life-support for the past couple decades.

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 1:14 pm driveallnight

      Heh

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  107. on March 31, 2012 at 4:55 pm AB

    If you put women up on a pedestal I recommend “In Defense of Women,” written in the early 20th century by H.L. Mencken. You can find this book on the Project Gutenberg Web site.
    When I first read it in my late twenties I thought it was just illogical, but then I kept going over it until it sank in. The truth has that effect on you. I did not put women up on a pedestal after that!

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  108. on March 31, 2012 at 5:15 pm rek

    Being the lead guitar player in numerous local rock bands in my mid teens through mid twenties, I can attest to this post. I don’t know why any red blooded young male doesn’t spend half his paycheck on Les Pauls or Stratocasters, Marshall amps, an assortment of stomp boxes and lessons, lessons, lessons.

    Now a days with the shaved vagina craze, coke snorting is done off the venus mound.

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  109. on March 31, 2012 at 5:17 pm Iori

    One of the best manosphere posts ever

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  110. on March 31, 2012 at 5:27 pm Iori

    I’m a lesser beta (virgin until 24, 29 now and currently with my first real girlfriend.) My gf is one of the “nice” girls who has never experienced being with an alpha, never had that wild, sexual part of her nature brought out. I could be wrong…perhaps she’s just successfully kept it hidden from me, but I doubt it.

    I definitely could have remained a clueless beta indefinitely. As a socially terrified, effeminate herb, nothing in my direct personal experience has ever seriously conflicted with the pure, chaste image of women presented and enforced by mainstream culture.

    Women have always either ignored me or been sweet and polite. I’ve served the beta orbiter/shoulder to cry on/study partner role before. Even when it became very clear I was being used and manipulated, though, I never faulted the girl to any great extent. It was easier and, I guess, supposedly more noble to blame myself…for just wanting sex, for “objectifying” her, etc.

    I stumbled into the red pill world coincidentally after reading The Game. I then watched the majority of RSD’s products and, most recently, have been feverishly reading everything here, on Roosh’s blog, and a few others in the manosphere. This post answers the one issue that still gave me pause when it came to Game — the fact that my personal experience doesn’t match up with how female behavior is described. Now I know why, clearly and unambiguously.

    My gf really is the nice girl that beta’s dream of. She’s cute (if a bit overweight), pretty feminine, and has never known the attentions of an alpha. Our relationship isn’t exciting, but its stable and predictable and pleasant. My old sentimental, scarcity-oriented beta self recoils at the idea of giving her up.

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 2:06 pm Lara

      Unless she gives you a reason to give her up, I don’t know why you would. She sounds nice. Just don’t start thinking she is better than other women, even if she is good for you.

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 6:04 pm Darius Jackson

      Turn dat bitch into a ho!

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 7:47 pm GCCC

      What makes you think she’s never known the taste of alpha? My last GF was widely assumed to be a perfect, sweet, innocent girl. People were shocked shocked shocked to learn of her secret fetish for black guys, her tryst in Latin America, her 15+ past partners, her enjoyment of anal and choking…

      The best part was:
      People had a pool on when we would get married.

      What idiots.

      I am a far better actor than she ever could be.

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      • on April 3, 2012 at 7:06 am Thanatosis (@lmMirin)

        If your girls is hot you should know for a fact that prior to you she’s been with a guy that is more alpha.

        One of those things you just gotta accept.

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    • on April 3, 2012 at 12:29 am Mick

      She will fuck you over……just wait. It’s inevitable with your attitude. She will wait until you are married with kids though just to make it especially painful. If she doesn’t turn into a fat pig that noone wants.in that case it will be quiet desperation for you, wishing that you never married in the first place. Don’t ruin your life.

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    • on April 3, 2012 at 12:15 pm itsme

      lol

      horses don’t realize they’ve got blinders on, either.

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  111. on March 31, 2012 at 6:11 pm Anon

    So what happens when betas wake up and develop game? Is it just game until death and civilization goes extinct with no children to come along? Or is it just the kids with 5 half-brothers and sisters with their mom collecting welfare who inherit society? Or do we return to a pre-sexual revolution state where pre-marital sex and post-marital infidelity are shamed in order to preserve the nuclear family and allow civilization to continue?

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 7:54 pm Like a G-6

      I would hope the betas got smart and managed to get Child Support, Alimony, and Welfare done away with, so if a bitch wanted to sleep around and EatPrayLove, she’d be broke ass poor and no man would touch her except to stick a dip-stick in her.

      Whores should stay where they belong, the bottom of society!

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      • on April 3, 2012 at 6:39 am P Ray

        You mean sluts.
        Whores put out for money.
        Sluts do it for the lolz.

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    • on April 10, 2012 at 3:32 am Anonymous

      We’ll have few children and those we do will be half-siblings from multiple player fathers and mom on Welfare.

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  112. on March 31, 2012 at 6:33 pm Me

    Seems like all of the West’s greatness was achieved due to Christianity’s ability to clamp down on all this and direct it to a higher end.

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  113. on March 31, 2012 at 6:35 pm tehforest

    “why look a gift herb in the mouth?”

    Beautiful

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  114. on March 31, 2012 at 7:35 pm me

    The rape charge is but 1 more hurdle.

    Does a Klingon man sit and bitch and whine about how unfair it all is? No. He slaps his woman and goes off to do battle. He knows a woman is just a play thing. Not an ultimate test or destination. His destiny is as large as the entire world and contains within it all possibilities.

    Heghlu’meH QaQ jajvam, my friends!

    And how does the prepared man meet this day? Why is he the prepared man? That is the question.

    Today is a good day to die indeed.

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  115. on March 31, 2012 at 8:07 pm Rum

    It seems to be a true-ism that the path out of beta mindedness will, one way or the other, involve a lot of soul-pain. That is why none of this should be sugar-coated.
    This is one of the best blog entries ever, by anyone, on any subject.

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  116. on March 31, 2012 at 9:02 pm Gramps

    This describes the sex lives of a very large number of “good men.”

    Gawd, we live in a cesspool of lies, don’t we?

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  117. on April 1, 2012 at 12:30 am corvinus

    “The observation is spot on, too, except that the alpha/beta dichotomy isn’t always so clear cut. For us born as higher betas, lesser alphas, the girls we disdain, the girls to which we really didn’t care for, did and do come on very strong, displaying their moist, soft center for their perceived alpha. But I saw the deepest trenches of beta hell due to my early penchant for wicked one-itis.” –(R)evoluzione

    I’m rather in that situation myself. Until I started reading CH’s stuff at the end of last year, my oneitis was so bad I rejected every potential gf. Now, mixed results: I have been rather suddenly corraled into a relationship by a 7 — cute, but not a raving beauty, and with some odd social idiosyncrasies. But her feelings for me right now are white-hot.

    But now that I think about it, it seems that the guys I know best who end up marrying whom they considered 9s were with a lesser woman for a while. My brother and my father are both cases of this. I guess before a man can become alpha enough to marry a 9 he has to go through (R)evoluzione’s lesser alpha-greater beta phase.

    Another case I know is a “man-whore” who had bedded so many fugs and nasties that one of his housemates joked that his sperm was like battery acid. But he never had a serious relationship until last year when he dated a single mom, also a 7, for several months, but then cheated on her with a 9 and pulled a switcheroo. He then blithely took off to New Zealand after winning a PhD candidacy there, and the 9 followed him soon afterwards.

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  118. on April 1, 2012 at 1:34 am Loveknoxxz

    Once men in general except the stark reality of women’s sexual nature, he has come to the utter realization that women are generally sluts, ready to fulfill the desires of a male that understands their nature. He has nothing to fear. All he has to do is let her nature proceed to it’s innate route.

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  119. on April 1, 2012 at 2:17 am Deepcov3r

    Story of Beta Virginity Breach:

    She wanted it with a hairbrush. Well, I thought I was a freak too, so I vigorously thwacked her bare, vulnerable rear with it, bristle side down. The harder I did it, the more she liked it, and the more she liked it, that harder I did it.

    Then I saw it. The blood. The bristles were scratching the skin surface, just enough to release little drops of blood. I started freaking out.
    “You’re bleeding!” I was worried she’d be really mad, and that I’d possible seriously injured her.

    I stopped.

    She turned her head sideways. I looked on in apprehension.

    She simply smiled.

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  120. on April 1, 2012 at 2:22 am Recovering Beta

    For most of my life have been beta, then I got red pilled and saw and lived alpha for two months or so. I have had the good fortune of knowing a friendly alpha or two in life, also had some brief low alpha runs of my own. So I put game to work pretty quickly. The difference in the way women responded to me sexually was like the world turned on its head. Then I backed off game and ended up retreating back towards beta for the last month but its not possible to go back to that. Once you see reality so clearly and understand what women are really about, what you have the potential to live, how could you choose anything but alpha…. The post is dead on. Beta life is hell.

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  121. on April 1, 2012 at 2:33 am carioca

    Great post. Unfortunately I only caught 70% of it, due the flamboyant style. (I´m not native english speaker).

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  122. on April 1, 2012 at 2:59 am codebuster

    CH’s genius lies in his ability to imagine how other people live their lives. Genuine empathy, not the hogwash that feminists define as “empathy”. He’s done it here with clarity. And he’s done it before, imagining how and why women arrive at their pampered interpretations of the world. Betas don’t do this… they project their own intelligence onto women, simplistically presuming that women see the world as they see it, which breaks down for the very reasons outlined here by CH.

    However, I take issue with the idea, particularly after having visited Tyler Durden’s perspective, that there is a conspiracy of secretiveness going on. Femaleness, by its very nature, is secretive. It is not a conspiracy. It’s how women are. But it is true that men need to understand how women’s minds work. Here are my own pointers:
    1) By virtue of their rationalization hamster, women spook easily. That’s their secret and it’s their problem. Women are inclined to work themselves into a lather about non-events, reading into things. The secret that men need to grasp relates to disarming women. That’s why it is so important for a man to have a sense of humor. Women need to be disarmed (Durden touches on this);
    2) The thing that women are drawn to is what a man stands for (eg, “success”). What “type” of man are you? A man needs to stand for something, he needs to define his “type”, whether by way of career or sport or lifestyle (lawyer, CEO, surfer, biker, businessman, thug, bad-boy, etc, etc,). Standing for something relates to confidence and body-language. In our contemporary culture, the bad-boy PUA is a “type” that has attained legitimacy. If you want to be successful as a PUA, then it is not enough just to learn game… you have to become the PUA type. Betas, by contrast, don’t really stand for anything – as slaves to their careers, their work environments define them;
    3) Women’s choices are not intelligent – in fact their choices are often spectacularly arbitrary, based on nothing more astute than dumb proximity. There is no “secret knowledge” to which men need to be privy. You can break down women’s choices to a few fundamental principles. Things like social proof, cocky-and-funny, etc., that basically amounts to women’s dependence on superficial appearances, and controlling their spook factor.

    But most importantly, I want to emphasize the word culture. The PUA has legitimacy only because of how our cultures have evolved (devolved) since the advent of our contraceptive technologies and the rise of feminism. The PUA methodology does not constitute a universal truth, but rather, something very specific to our zeitgeist. In other cultures and other times, the formula-dependent PUA’s antics are more likely to be met with ridicule (I’m not talking here about the “naturals”, Cassanova, etc, who bring a very different dynamic to the table). So the question becomes not how to become a PUA but whether you really want to. I find greater joy in pissing on our zeitgeist, laughing at it, and knowing that I’m not a part of it.

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    • on April 3, 2012 at 9:44 am Lara

      CH is very good at empathizing with other men. It’s a smart move, too. Because other men like him, it would be hard for a scorned woman to take him down.

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      • on April 4, 2012 at 12:17 pm Glengarry

        How does it feel to watch men in a few short years reverse engineer the feminine mystique?

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  123. on April 1, 2012 at 3:11 am gregg concern trolled

    Death of the soul – this is the main message of the whole stuff. Author has a brilliant style of writing and a good chunk of knowledge about the dark traits of women.

    I thing he must have been molested through his young years by our female counterparts –

    [heartiste: nope. never molested. had a pretty good time on the whole actually. my observations are as much based on what i see with others as my own.]

    there is simple too much frustration and aggression in the articles.

    [you confuse frustration and aggression for bemusement and passion. but that is typical smear campaign work for a member of the troll shock troops.]

    Hope that his soul is still alive, do not give up warrior.

    [concern troll concerned.]

    Alphas have intuitive understanding of these dark traits of women ´cos they are more or less the same – it is necessary (genetic reasons) to enable them to impregnate many holes.

    [naturals may or may not be born with their gifts, but they undoubtedly become better at their craft through early experience with womnen. just as betas may do if they are willing to learn.]

    Their genes can not afford to be bothered only with one female. Omegas have been so many times at the receiving part of the bullshit that they have also good knowledge about the evil in women.

    [omegas and lesser betas know much more female rejection than alphas, and this will harden their attitudes toward women, but that cynical hardening will never crystallize into a coherent grasp of female nature. instead, the omega and lesser beta tend as often as not to redirect their pain into self-loathing and self-flagellation.]

    Betas are the most susceptible to this kind of bullshit. But remember that betas are the backbone of the civilization. Should they know the true nature of women, the civilization – as we know it, could easily collapse. The reason of the fall will be simple – death of the soul. Responsible, kind hearted beta soul.

    [cultural as well as environmental constraints can favor the beta male, but that is not the situation we in the west find ourselves today.]

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  124. on April 1, 2012 at 3:57 am mark

    it’s amazing how profoundly true this is….

    you know, before i put myself out there, i had these really idealistic views of women. i thought girls wanted intimate good relationships ….

    despite being one of the few ppl who didn’t drink in college, i got a job as a bouncer at one of the downtown clubs. i wanted perspective…. one of the bartenders there was this older natural alpha. he was married, had a mistress and slept w/ 21 – 22 year olds all the time.

    thank god… i don’t know why… maybe because i am descrete… he took me under his wing. he showed me the text pics these chicks were sending…. i remember a sweet adorable girl i had seen from afar in a class… sending him first topless pics… then pics of her pussy …. he showed me the text convos so i could see how he steered them… he gave me advice on my behavior and outlook….

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  125. on April 1, 2012 at 5:08 am rexxous

    This post has some of the most astute, and poignant, observations on male/female relationships I have ever read. And it makes me sad. Like several other guys commenting here, I wish I had come across these insights years ago — decades ago, in my case. I would have lived a completely different life.

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  126. on April 1, 2012 at 7:09 am Jumungus

    Power!

    Been there..
    Got friendzoned by this girl I’ve been “friends” with but always wanted to bang..
    Long story short…
    She NEVER tells me about her sex dreams/fantasies…! Gets offended when I talk dirty to her. I stopped contact… now she wont stop calling! I just ignore now. Enjoying life and communication on MY terms..

    This post… SPOT ON!

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  127. on April 1, 2012 at 8:01 am Gil

    Meh. I’m sure there plenty of fuglies who don’t get any male attention and can only wonder what it’d be like to have male admirers. Maybe the Spartans had the right idea and chucked Beta babies off a cliff – if any probably did them a favour.

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  128. on April 1, 2012 at 8:11 am Gramps

    The reason betas pedestalize women is because they pedestalize their mothers or other nurturing females from their childhood.

    Only by sexual experience with women can betas correct this misconception. The problem for betas is getting the experience. They are trapped in a vicious circle. They think marriage will solve their problem, but it won’t. Epic fail.

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  129. on April 1, 2012 at 9:34 am Southern Man

    Mostly, though, he floats through his marriage thinking the best of his wife, and worst of himself…

    And there are those who still, to this day, remind me every chance they get that It Was All My Fault.

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  130. on April 1, 2012 at 1:11 pm Anonymous

    To the guy above who didn’t think there was anything wrong with being a hot woman’s friend if you’re getting other women:

    Yes. If it’s clear they are true to a boyfriend they are living with and you’re getting women like her otherwise, be her friend. But don’t spend too much time with her that might give her the idea you aren’t moving on with your life.

    I just got a call from such a woman this morning who has broken up with her boyfriend and now she wants to replace him with me.

    I can’t schedule her in for more than a week, and she knows this, but she is a solid 9 aged 21 and it apparently was a good thing that I became friends with her 9 months ago when I met her.

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  131. on April 1, 2012 at 1:20 pm Anonymous

    A solution on women who flake: often what the guy is doing wrong is he’s trying to get off the phone as soon as possible to get out with her in person before “screwing up” on the phone.

    The hottest high IQ women know about this fear. They want a guy who isn’t afraid to shoot the breeze on the phone for as long as she wants. It tells her that he feels there’s plenty of things he can still say in person when he meets her.

    Often a woman flakes on a date because she’s concerned the guy will suddenly run out of things to talk about.

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  132. on April 1, 2012 at 2:14 pm wizkidjohnq

    “He will choose you, disarm you with his words, and control you with his presence. He will delight you with his wit and his plans. He will show you a good time but you will always get the bill. He will smile and deceive you, and he will scare you with his eyes. And when he is through with you, and he will be through with you, he will desert you and take with him your innocence and your pride. You will be left much sadder but not a lot wiser, and for a long time you will wonder what happened and what you did wrong. And if another of his kind comes knocking on your door, will you open it?”
    -From an essay signed “A psychopath in prison”

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    • on April 3, 2012 at 6:42 am P Ray

      Hope she does open it. Because mental women deserve psychopath men.
      My sympathies with their other victims though.

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  133. on April 1, 2012 at 3:17 pm themanthelegend

    lol after reading this post, i want to put all beta males in gas chambers to clean up the human gene pool

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    • on April 4, 2012 at 2:32 pm Stark

      Clean the human gene pool all the way back to subsaharan africa amirite?

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  134. on April 1, 2012 at 4:24 pm Bigfoot

    A+ post.

    Betas are kept in the dark about women’s behavior because they never see it.

    In addition, betas have massive blind spots regarding women, so even if they do see behavior that an alpha would find intolerable they’ll spin their beta hamsters rationalizing.

    Most betas have hamsters rivaling that of some women.

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    • on April 3, 2012 at 7:01 am Thanatosis (@lmMirin)

      +1

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  135. on April 1, 2012 at 4:25 pm Are most women whores?

    […] for you in the order of importance. http://www.bristol|||||||||/2008/inn…ecret-society/ https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/…stalize-women/ I feel the same way you do. It's only because I care too much about the things that are out of my […]

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 5:27 pm Anonymous

      Yes. Next question.

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  136. on April 1, 2012 at 4:51 pm Aspie Nerd

    It’s taken me a long time, but I have learned to take women for what they are.
    I am not judgmental: whatever turns her on, she is still a nice girl as long as she is friendly and honest, i.e. does not string men along. Even if it’s not me that turns her on, I don’t mind: as long as she respects me and I like to be with her, she can still be a good friend. I am the one putting her in the friend zone, if you wish. There are plenty of other girls.

    Incidentally one thing that helped me gain the insight of this post was the movie Secretary … or rather, the fact that on imdb, this movie is rated higher by women than by men.

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    • on April 3, 2012 at 6:56 am Thanatosis (@lmMirin)

      “I am not judgmental: whatever turns her on, she is still a nice girl as long as she is friendly and honest, i.e. does not string men along.”

      Lmao are you serious?

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      • on April 3, 2012 at 12:30 pm itsme

        april fool’s!

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      • on April 3, 2012 at 2:11 pm Aspie Nerd

        Serious about what? about not holding women to feminist/white knight standards?
        Are you a feminist or are you a white knight? or both?

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      • on April 3, 2012 at 2:35 pm Thanatosis (@lmMirin)

        You’re not realizing how contradictory that statement is…

        “I’m not judgmental, as long as she doesn’t do x”

        I found the contradiction funny.

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      • on April 3, 2012 at 3:05 pm Aspie Nerd

        I see…sorry i misunderstood you. What i meant is that i do not judge women by feminist/white knight standards. I judge them by other standards, that’s true.
        BTW one thing I did not say is that any woman who fantasizes about a man hurting her, is insane in my opinion. I think most women are not insane: they want to be dominated, not hurt. Maybe i am wrong, but women who want to be hurt are headed for extinction anyway, so in the long term I am right.

        [heartiste: some women want to be hurt. see: rihanna. (for those who doubt, recall that rihanna gleefully went back to chris brown after he beat her to a pulp. the love was strong in her.)
        you might also want to see today’s news about a… ahem, vibrant alpha male… who blew away his societally deemed racist lover with a shotgun blast to the chest. something the *white* knights will never ask themselves: why the fuck was this chick even dating that guy in the first place? they never go there, because that way lies unrelenting cognitive pain.]

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      • on April 3, 2012 at 5:23 pm Aspie Nerd

        Heartiste: I did not say that no woman wants to be hurt. I said that, by my definition, no sane woman wants to be hurt. I might add that I don’t want to be with a woman who wants to be hurt, though I might make an exception if she is the last woman on earth.
        (Since I don’t follow closely US news, I am not sure what today’s news are. Maybe I’ll find out.)

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  137. on April 1, 2012 at 5:15 pm George Garner

    I’m willing to accept the truth of all of this. Except for one part. The part about women wanting “vile sexual plunderings”. Its not that I deny it — in fact, as a virginal omega I can neither deny nor confirm it — but that I’m worried that its true. The debased degrading stuff might turn on women but for me it would be a turn off making me limp-dicked. I’m not demanding asexual chasteness from a chick, but man that brutal rough stuff I just couldnt do. So I am left hoping that its not entirely true.

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 2:04 pm Ross

      Good April Fool’s joke, dood.

      Just wait until your significant other looks up at you, teary eyed, blissful, ecstatic and gleeful as she chokes on your dick as you fuck her face.

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  138. on April 1, 2012 at 7:04 pm Senior Manchild

    As if they threw you a nice fastball down in the strike zone with the bases loaded, you jumped all over it and took it downtown. Nice job Heartiste.

    This should be a PSA for all men.

    ¨A woman is ever aware of the precariousness of her reputation, and this goes double in rural outposts of heavy religiosity.¨

    ¨The beta and alpha male worlds are almost as separate and distinct now as they have been since the dawn of anonymous urban living.¨

    Rural and Urban; very much a dichotomy.

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  139. on April 1, 2012 at 7:38 pm Anonymous

    I’d consider myself an intermediate player. I’ve been in some of the alpha experiences you’ve described, and this post makes me furious.

    It resonates with the beta in me. I’m still half-toiling in the beta world. With all the game knowledge that has come forth in the last decade, there is no excuse for betaness.

    Thank you for the sobering, royal ass kicking. I’m going re-double my efforts.

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  140. on April 1, 2012 at 8:23 pm not_PC

    “Sudden Wife Abandonment Syndrome”

    http://www.runawayhusbands.com/
    http://www.divorcemag.com/forums/General_Discussion/Sudden_Wife_Abandonment_Syndrome-3-4530-0-0/

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

    * Men achieve status.
    * Women like them.
    * Their status keeps going up over the years (prestigious job, more experiences, more connections, more money, more power).
    * Wifey isn’t exactly getting younger/thinner/better looking.
    * Younger woman enters the picture and the man grabs his balls and fucks her.

    Result?

    When it’s a woman, it’s a SYNDROME gentlemen! When the wife leaves the beta provider that’s been faithful over the years, it’s: “Oh, I heard they were having problems.”

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  141. on April 1, 2012 at 9:10 pm Student

    “Out from under the judgmental Eye of Proper Society, equipped with the requisite beauty to pay the price of admission, the wild female libido is insatiable, crass, debased. It is willing to surrender to the most vile sexual plunderings, screaming in ecstatic pleasure at every enthusiastically welcome violation.”

    reminds me of the time i attended a formal event hosted by the most elite (attractive and high social status) girls on campus. right before dinner, there was a roast. the recent sexual history of almost every girl was revealed for the audience, and it was a mindblowing recollection of freaky debauchery. and these girls weren’t even close to being known as a “slutty sorority.”

    of course, there was also the time one of the bros fucked a chick in the ass, stuck his finger in same thereafter, then painted a ‘3rd eye’ on her forehead w the finger and christened the move the “dirty mohinder”. she loved it; we warned this chicks new fiance a couple of years later about what kind of “lady” she was, and he refused to believe it because, of course, he knew her “better” than we did.

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  142. on April 1, 2012 at 9:32 pm freebird

    The Germans were nearly defeated by syphilis from Frenchwomen rather than guns from the allies.
    If she’s promiscuous you’ve just had sex with all her partners and their partners.
    Yeah, a big notch count means increased chance of STD.
    Even sex with one women could result in a true partner count of hundreds..

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 1:01 pm Anonymous

      Any links for that? You mean the first world war, correct? Although they never got to Paris in that war.

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  143. on April 1, 2012 at 9:57 pm AL

    i think at least in my case it is not an inability to read womens signals but more about now knowing what to do/etc

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  144. on April 1, 2012 at 10:03 pm Anonymous

    If a beta man wants sex, best use a prostitute (yes, they cost money just like normal girls do). Money shouldn’t be a deterrent, because a man needs money anyway (girl or no girl, personal success should be the aim, like a satisfying and good paying job, great health, high educational level etc should come first, always).

    If a beta man wants a relationship, then things get complicated. If he can find a beta lover girl, fine, but the chances of that happening are slim to impossible.

    Some stories to dissuade beta men from having relationships (short, medium or long) with promiscuous women:

    1. Promiscuous girl has a alpha male baby in her womb. Before her belly grows, she has sex with a beta male and puts the blame on him. Genius!;
    2. A beta male will only get the alpha male leftovers. She’ll absolutely never give you what she gave an alpha;
    3. Beta males are worse than second class citizens to women. Want to be treated worse than a animal headed for the slaughter house? No? Run!;
    4. Committed suicide? No pity or remorse for you!;
    5. Film every beta should watch: “The Last American Virgin” released in 1982.

    Need examples? Search for “mark zuckerberg girlfriend” and you’ll see beta maleness all over the spectrum. Despite being insanely rich he doesn’t have a beautiful girlfriend. His choice? Maybe, or money doesn’t have much importance as his beta looks and manners.

    Great post by the way.

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 6:06 pm Anonymous

      And it gets worse.

      “It’s free, swipe your EBT… nine months later you get the big bucks, all you have to do is fuck!”

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  145. on April 1, 2012 at 10:28 pm Equis

    great post, great style.

    I experienced a Mangina white knight swarm on my ass last night after a crude remark to a girl that crossed the line on me. Took one to the face from the chick, but get this, Mangina steps in to defend her and he takes a second shot. I have a nice set of bloody lips.

    There is no hope for some of these men, and I, along with the alpha females wouldnt mind too much if they stayed in the dark. Your YouTube 2 part series demasculinization of the American male seems to come to mind..

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  146. on April 2, 2012 at 12:30 am The moral godless

    Very well-written, but I don’t agree.

    We’re raised in a culture that pedestalizes the female. Many of us have the moral superiority of the female drilled into our heads from childhood. I don’t think you can overlook this to explain the phenomenon.

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  147. on April 2, 2012 at 3:12 am Anonymous

    Where are all the good men (who excite women like thugs)? Red Pill!

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  148. on April 2, 2012 at 3:43 am Pantalones

    Where the hell were you guys when I needed you? Is there hope fire a man in his mid forties like yours truly who has known something of the truth but could never articulate it like you PUA guys?

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 12:58 pm Anonymous

      More than just hope: you probably know more about a lot more interesting subjects than a younger man does, making you more interesting to women who, correctly and according to this blog, are more sexually attracted to what a guy says than what he looks like. Plus your synapses should be firing better, meaning you’re likely to pick up and apply game concepts better than the younger guys.

      Just make sure you lose any flab at the gym unless it fits on you comfortably like on a bear.

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 3:01 pm Southern Man

      There are a couple of us here that are even older before we found the Red Pill. Take heart – with knowledge and experience, life just gets better and better for guys.

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  149. on April 2, 2012 at 4:08 am qwerty@uiop.nl

    I just read “Sperm Wars” by Robin Baker.

    I imagined a fun book on sexual dynamics.

    It wasn’t.

    It was pretty much what you keep saying, just way longer.

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 5:40 pm Dan Fletcher

      Recommended readings:

      Red Queen
      Selfish Gene/Extended Phenotype
      Lucifer Principle
      Global Brain

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  150. on April 2, 2012 at 4:49 am republicofcinema

    Canonical post.

    My only minor contention is that guy’s who are born with sisters also tend to have field-level seats on the 50-yd line of the abyss.

    My best friend in college was a natural whose older sister taught him how to dress stylishly and handle shit tests with aplomb. In the club, we pulled about the same number and quality of women, as he was better-looking but shorter while I was fearless and outrageous.

    I noticed the difference in our social circle however as even girls who found him an aloof asshole could not stop talking about him, while I toned down my night act to behave more “gentlemanly.” He also had the upper hand in relationships, avoiding girl-drama, intuiting their moods and handling them with a general pimp hand. Meanwhile I found myself embroiled in drama, begging for sex, and capitulating if she broke down in tears.

    On the plus side, girls without brothers are easy prey.

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 3:20 pm kidbourbon

      True true true.

      I have only brothers and I noticed as early on as 8th or 9th grade that guys who had older sisters were a bit more at ease with themselves around females than was I. And by “a bit more”, I mean “a lot more”.

      Guys with older sisters were given a nice gift in that regard.

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      • on April 3, 2012 at 4:57 pm corvinus

        I think you’re on to something there. Dr. Gilmartin, who researched “love-shyness” back in the ’80s, noted that love-shy men (omegas) were disproportionately unlikely to have sisters.

        Older sisters are, of course, better; younger sisters are okay, but the guy will be delayed somewhat in being able to bond with women. I have one sister who’s five years younger than me, and I didn’t start to feel at ease around women until she was college-age. My two brothers who bracket her in age are both much better with women than I was at their age.

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  151. on April 2, 2012 at 5:01 am Can You See the Real Me? A Response to Andy Nowicki

    […] worse social skills than me, but when you’re 16 and at the bottom of the social food chain, you’ll take any girl who’s interested.But aside from this, I embodied every dork stereotype you could think of. I knew it and I hated […]

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  152. on April 2, 2012 at 6:09 am Markku

    Let’s put this into perspective and try to quantify the phenomenon:

    I’d say at least three quarters of 30 yo women with an SMV between 0 and +1 standard deviations from the mean have had sex with at least one alpha in their years between 16 and 25. I consider an alpha a man whose SMV is in the top decile. Couplings of alphas and higher average looking girls mostly take the form of pump-and-dumps and sometimes short-term relationships if the alpha has nothing better to do at the time. Although painful in the end, these relationships are remnisced by the women for the rest of their lives.

    I have a friend who is a very smart and self-aware natural. I have witnessed and heard about some of his exploits. One of his past sex partners even includes the wife of another friend of mine before the married couple had met. That case fits the short-term relationship scenario above perfectly. About ten years ago, a girl we met at a club for the first time invited us to her place when the club closed. I watched his asshole game in action. It seemed to me he was doing it instinctively. I must have done something right because this girl, a crying mess, complained that *we* had made her cry. My friend left at that stage. I stayed and consoled her a little bit which led to fucking which went on for a month or so. Everything I found out about her later suggested that a strong dose of asshole game was exactly what she craved.

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  153. on April 2, 2012 at 9:37 am Evan

    T’is a gamey Writer’s Almanac today.

    http://writersalmanac.publicradio.org/index.php?date=2012/04/02

    Desire
    by George Bilgere

    The slim, suntanned legs
    of the woman in front of me in the checkout line
    fill me with yearning
    to provide her with health insurance
    and a sporty little car with personalized plates.

    The way her dark hair
    falls straight to her slender waist
    makes me ache
    to pay for a washer/dryer combo
    and yearly ski trips to Aspen, not to mention
    her weekly visits to the spa
    and nail salon.

    And the delicate rise of her breasts
    under her thin blouse
    kindles my desire
    to purchase a blue minivan with a car seat,
    and soon another car seat, and eventually
    piano lessons and braces
    for two teenage girls who will hate me.

    Finally, her full, pouting lips
    make me long to take out a second mortgage
    in order to put both kids through college
    at first- or second-tier institutions,
    then cover their wedding expenses
    and help out financially with the grandchildren
    as generously as possible before I die
    and leave them everything.

    But now the cashier rings her up
    and she walks out of my life forever,
    leaving me alone
    with my beer and toilet paper and frozen pizzas.

    Today is the birthday of Giacomo Casanovaborn in Venice (1725), the famous libertine. A compulsive gambler and restless man, he never settled into one occupation before tiring of it and moving on to the next thing — he earned a law degree, was a scribe to a Cardinal in Rome, joined the military, played violin in the theater, posed as an alchemist, translated the Iliad, spied for the government, and was a librarian. But he is best remembered for seducing many women, which he wrote about in his 12 volume, 3,500 page autobiography, The Story of My Life.

    Casanova wrote:
    “I loved, I was loved, my health was good, I had a great deal of money, and I spent it, I was happy and I confessed it to myself.”

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  154. on April 2, 2012 at 10:18 am Ian Ironwood

    Outstanding summation, once again. Bravo!

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  155. on April 2, 2012 at 11:41 am Donkey@donkey.com

    I can’t help but thing a large problem with the modern young male’s misunderstanding of the modern young female is today’s prevalence of pornography and self-stimulation.

    With so many young men simulating love-making with figments of their imagination it is expected that the young male will project the unrealistic characteristics of their fantasy on those in real life whom they wish to make congress.

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 12:53 pm Anonymous

      But much of porn depicts women not pretending to be something you should pedestalize and it shows men doing direct game. Therefore, it’s a stretch when I see social conservatives on these forums pretending porn is all so beta and unnecessary in a “let’s not complain if we vote for Santorum and he bans it” kind of way.

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      • on April 2, 2012 at 5:23 pm Anonymous

        Porn…

        Pizza Delivery Guy: I’ve got an extra-large with lots of SAUSAGE.
        Girl: Ooh, I like big sauage!
        Delivery: Wanna fuck?
        Gilr: Okay!

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 5:22 pm Darius Jackson

      Lonely virgins will be attracted to ANYTHING with a pulse and a vagina.The idea of beta nerds,nice guy losers and aging singles settling only for some kind of hot porn star is very funny. I bet you love Trayvon,dont ya?

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 9:14 pm Fred Rotten

      Believe me, Donkey, porn is never plan A.

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  156. on April 2, 2012 at 11:42 am Donkey@donkey.com

    *I can’t help but *think*

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  157. on April 2, 2012 at 12:31 pm sciencebzzt

    “Atheists are not the people most likely to resist a burgeoning totalitarian state.”
    based on… anecdotal evidence? come on man, you’re smarter than that. if anyone else used BS anecdotal evidence for anything else, you’re rip them apart, rightfully.

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  158. on April 2, 2012 at 1:02 pm chi-town

    Nope. This one misses. There is a far easier explanation. Women tend to be the ones who attend to the needs of children. Thus growing up, the female is seen as kinder and gentler. I believe it is a manufacturing “defect” of men used by nature much like a variable mast of fruit which can starve and saturate predators. We only need so many men to reproduce so why not just go with a producer drone cast and then a mating cast that makes it across the breech? Only certain men will over come this defect to understand that it was the nature of the child as much as it was the nature of women. We have no need for more.

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    • on April 3, 2012 at 2:48 pm DarkByke

      Take your feminist shit elsewhere….

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      • on April 3, 2012 at 5:05 pm chi-town

        What feminist shit you pimple, laden troll?

        The thread is wrong. The delusion that women are morally superior to men does not begin during the teen years. It begins the at the first ass wipe. In your case, sorry mama left you with a crust and skid marks.

        ….damn INTERNET, why not make my knuckles itch in person?….I bet you are a bleeder too.

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  159. on April 2, 2012 at 1:35 pm emmatheemo

    On your omega link…. I think that’s a feeder. Not a “loser”. One of those guys who love to feed women and make them gain tons of weight and get off on watching them become fatter.

    [heartiste: same difference.]

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 1:50 pm Emma the Emo

      To each his own 😉

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  160. on April 2, 2012 at 2:00 pm Ken_in_SC (@Ken_in_SC)

    My wife makes more money than I do. She works, I don’t. I’m retired. I don’t do anything except give my wife good sex. We have house cleaners and yard people. She likes me to be in charge in bed and she askes my approval for almost everything she does outside of bed. It seems to make her happy.

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 3:04 pm Lara

      You must be really good in bed.

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      • on April 2, 2012 at 5:19 pm Darius Jackson

        Or she looks like a troll.

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  161. on April 2, 2012 at 3:07 pm Fred Rotten

    I’d like to hear from John Norman Howard.

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    • on April 3, 2012 at 7:40 am GeishaKate

      Seconded.

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    • on April 3, 2012 at 1:27 pm driveallnight

      Third. Maybe he’s doing a “March for Trayvon” with Tyrone?

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      • on April 3, 2012 at 2:04 pm carolyn

        =)

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  162. on April 2, 2012 at 3:23 pm Anonymous

    In other news: YES – apex Alpha male SILVIO Berlusconi and fellow comrade in arms Vladimir Putin know the score:

    “What fits into this scenario is his recent tête-à-tête with a very close friend, the hated and much-vilified former and future Russian prime minister Vladimir Putin. Which could, as we sincerely hope, be the beginning of a truly European front against the powers that are bent on its total subjugation….”

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2012/03/silvios-gamble/

    “… here is one man who personally owns all the money and media influence necessary to reach a high political position. He doesn’t have to go hat in hand to AIPAC and its European counterparts, and thus sell himself and his people down the drain. He can, at least to a degree, speak his mind. And, most important, he doesn’t need to get involved in alien adventures that are expensive, counterproductive and highly harmful for his country.

    It also permits him to flash on occasion his admittedly ribald sense of humour. Like calling the newly elected US President young, beautiful (bello) and nicely suntanned. And thereby expressing the consternation felt by all those who wondered what on earth was happening in America. Most likely he knew already by then where matters were leading to, or what kind of miserable windbag George Soros and his assorted chums had launched with so much false fanfare.”

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  163. on April 2, 2012 at 3:32 pm Sam Spade

    I’ve been on both sides of the coin. Started out beta (with limited action), up through college, before I learned game. Every word Heartiste writes here is true.

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  164. on April 2, 2012 at 6:18 pm aaaa

    exhibit a: from ‘i have a bf’ to ‘i like you ordering me around’

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    • on April 2, 2012 at 8:07 pm Anon

      Nice.
      Dude got game. Hoe got nice titties. Cuckold doesn’t stand a chance.

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      • on April 6, 2012 at 3:05 pm aaaa

        another story: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=143438943

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      • on April 7, 2012 at 3:26 pm Anon

        Lolz. Even better.

        Dude still sounds like a white knight though. He could use some chateau training.

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    • on April 4, 2012 at 1:02 am Anti Blue pill

      LULZ

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  165. on April 3, 2012 at 6:59 am Thanatosis (@lmMirin)

    Excellent Post, you’ve articulated this much better than I ever could have. This will definitely be making rounds.

    Instead of trying to convince my bro’s who haven’t accepted the truth myself I’ll just redirect them to this article. It’s worded much more eloquently.

    One of the best writers on the net, You should write a book if it’s possible for you to devote the time to it. I’m sure it would sell really well.

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  166. on April 4, 2012 at 3:35 am walawala

    Beta Blog….what’s interesting is the comments from women who treat this guy like he’s a male “Oprah”…

    http://relationshipsinhongkong.blogspot.com/

    The women in Hong Kong who moan about the lack of men are themselves selfish, lazy and wallowing in self-entitlement.

    They sneer at the women who have men as somehow “submissive” but disdain men who put them on pedestals….

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    • on April 4, 2012 at 12:03 pm P Ray

      Bang goes the myth of the “submissive Asian princess”.
      Women are women everywhere.

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  167. on April 4, 2012 at 6:11 am pantyfx

    One more thing –

    I’ve been on both sides of this. I’ve been the mewling beta male constantly wondering what I am doing wrong and why she’s fucking my friends. I’ve also been the friend sneaking in and fucking her while her boyfriend is in the other room. Once you see both sides, and are not emotionally compromised by them your free to choose.

    Don’t worry about how much you cum or how much they beg. In the end do what keeps you feeling alive and die on your own terms. Hell is dying helpless.

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  168. on April 5, 2012 at 1:03 am Disciple

    Amazing post to say the least. It’s not just eye-opening and burgeoning with truth, in terms of the language, the clarity, the words – it really is a work of art. It is both intellectually satisying to the mind and emotionally satisfying to the heart.

    Though you call yourself CH now with multiple writers on the blog, many of your loyal and most ardent of followers know the real name of who wrote it – the one and only, R. Your style is too good and remarkably unique to mimic.

    It’s hard to know such truth, yet find it, somehow, in our hearts, to love women and put them in relationships that will not evenutally be undermined by our knowledge of what they like, what they’ve done, and what, on the most fundamental of levels, makes their wretched, depraved, and masochistic bodies tick. Since it makes my sensitive and romantic self sick to my stomach, I know I cannot, and I’m not sure if I will ever change, or even if I want to. I also know that despite you knowing what the truth is – and having such a mastery of it that you can purvey it clearly to others – you can still find the ability to love a woman and make her, even, a long-term girlfriend. I don’t know what your secret is, but I know it cannot be easy.

    I think there is something even deeper, if possible, on this site, than simply the psychoanalysis of women and the elucidation of their most basic urges and brain impulses. It is really about R contributing something to the Earth, and he knows he’ll leave the world a better place for having done so. You take us under your wing, open our eyes, bury the pretty little lies, give us a hug, and then push us over the cliff. I suspect that you started your blog for mostly intellectual reasons, but you continue it for emotional reasons, and you’ve grown to love your followers and the warm glow of giving. And we love you back.

    I know you don’t want any children, but for many of the younger crowd that visits your website, in terms of what you teach us, you’re like the father we never had; that strong unshakeable rock that helps us weather the most vicious and strong of tempests that is present not only in amorous affairs, but also in life itself. The lessons learned to make one better at relationships also make him a better man.

    I wrote this comment on my birthday, and your post was the greatest gift of all that I’ve received.

    There is a corollary to the Story of O, and it’s the Story of R. And, as far as we are concerned, that’s the real story worth telling.

    Godspeed, all the best, and long live our King!

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    • on April 9, 2012 at 5:50 pm Anon

      That was… beautiful …and true.

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  169. on April 5, 2012 at 4:21 am Daniel Shays

    I came across this blog a while back because a friend recommended it to me while I had a crush of my best friend of five years. We’re still best friends, and whenever I start liking her again, I just come here and read a few posts, and I lose the feelings.

    I can’t drop her as a friend because in some ways I think she needs me more than I need her. She texts/calls/instant messages me more than I do to her. She can never make me happy. Our personalities don’t match. She’s better off as just a friend.

    Okay I think I just friendzoned her.

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  170. on April 6, 2012 at 1:52 pm defcon

    Many of the portraits of women shared here are too [realistic] and [smell delightfully] of [practical assessment]. Human beings are [animals] and very [predictable]. To cast all humanity in one light is [impolite]. To suggest that [SOME] women are unworthy of devotion and love is to paint [an accurate] picture.

    [heartiste: ftfy.]

    There is an inconsistency in CH’s writings that is coming to light here.

    [i’m gonna predict incoming false premise.]

    If it were true that no woman is worthy of an LTR then there would be no point in ever having offspring with one in the hope of raising them together.

    [called it! where did i ever say that no woman is worthy of an LTR? oh, that’s right. NOWHERE.]

    But if that’s true, that CH’s denigration of single parenthood as a viable family structure necessarily means that the human race ought to stop reproducing.

    [you, sir, are sounding like an idiot. if this comment is a troll, it is not quite up to the standards we expect here at the chateau. step up your game, kindly goodman.]

    There are women who are worthy of devotion and partnership. But one would do well to recognize that the legalities and formalities of marriage are not needed to form or sustain that partnership.

    I think the original mad max film does a great job of portraying the possibility of deep sustaining love in a way accessible to most men. Do you really believe that Mad max’s wife was a base animal who when presented with a character more alpha than max would gladly spread her legs and abandon Max and her child? While we are base sexual creatures, we are also motivated strongly by our positive emotions like love and attachment.

    There are still some good women out there, I see it in friends and family.

    The bitter truth is that if we abandon the hope for deep sustaining love then human existence will cease. Deep lasting connections are a requirement for continued reproduction of the human race and the stable family units that can support it.

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  171. on April 11, 2012 at 9:44 pm hypnoshado

    Your best work yet, really well written stuff. I couldn’t agree more with your descriptions of the emotional leaching during the college years. Keep it up!

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  172. on April 12, 2012 at 8:37 am Trad Con Tourette’s | Dalrock

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  174. on May 25, 2012 at 5:56 am szopeno

    Yeah, this is great article. It described me pretty good. I lost two or three chicks to guys, who I would describe as simply arseholes and never understood why and what I was doing wrong. Then I decided to behave like an arsehole with woman i was attracted to and it worked as a charm (I didn’t know it was called “direct game” though 🙂 ). Lost all my illusions then.

    However, there is another hope for betas 🙂 I’ve noticed that the older I am, the more woman seems to approach me. Since I am hopeless beta and happily married, I never tried how much I could push it, but it seems that at some age girls are starting to looking for beta’s. After all, if chicks would want only alphas, the world would have to be dominated by alphas. But about 3/4 of males are betas, right?

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  175. on May 25, 2012 at 6:05 am gunslingergregi

    more like 99 percent

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