I was enjoying a punchy bowel movement in a public restroom when I overhead a conversation a man was having on the phone with a woman who was either a friend or the pretense of a friend he wanted to fuck. Droning and masturbatory, my ears perked up when he turned the subject to that Story of O meager rip-off and sadomasochism book by a female author which is currently all the rage among well-heeled urban ladies who fancy themselves feminists. One-way snippets follow.
“Did you hear about this Fifty Shades of Grey book? …Yeah, it’s about a woman who falls for a controlling, dominant guy. He’s even kind of violent. Knocks her around and stuff.”
“It’s a little disconcerting. Are women like this? Do women really go in for this sort of thing?” [laughs]
“I don’t get it, but this is all women are talking about. It makes me think that they want to be submissive. Submissive to a man.”
“I mean, I have to ask… I’m asking you because you’re a woman, and I haven’t slept with you. [chuckles self-consciously] Not that I meant to say I wanted to… or if I would I wouldn’t come right out and say it… but I figure you would tell me the truth since we’re not sleeping together.”
“Have you read this book?… Wow… You too?… You think you know people….”
“Are these degrading things he puts her through… are they exciting for women? I’ll never have a conversation again without thinking she really wants to be tied up and… yeah, women want submission… it’s nuts.”
“Is that what you like?”
I do no fairness to this eavesdropped rambling exegesis on the book that has the yoga and credentialist crowd in titters and tingles, which went on breathlessly for a heady fifteen minutes. (My grass-fed beef movement was extraordinary even for a deucing champion like myself, so fifteen minutes on the throne was not putting me out.) From the sound of his ardor, the man on the phone could hardly believe there existed this secret garden of women’s desires, and having stumbled into it clumsily tried to utilize the subject as a hook for a possible tryst with the woman on the other end of the line. Also from the sound of it, she didn’t bite.
I think this book is something of a watershed cultural moment for the SWPL class, filled floor to rafters with masculinized careerist broads and cloying beta males. Word is getting out among even the mule-headed beta males that women are, most of them and especially those feminist shrikes who’d like you to think otherwise, engines of depraved sexuality who really want to belong to a dominant man — belong in the biblical and servitude sense — and that no indignity is off the table for them should the right badass come along and give them what they truly crave.
Pulp romance and sex novels like Fifty Shades of Grey are the female equivalent of male visual pornography; let there be no doubt, these books are female porn, as salacious and titillating for women as close-up jackhammering is for men. If you decry the one, you must decry the other if you have any interest in being perceived as fair-minded and consistent. But will you ever hear a media darling feminist call out these books for what they really are? Of course not. For what they really are is a technicolor ringside seat spectating into the soul of woman. Fantasy is a reflection of real world desire, and as much as it is true men would hardly hesitate to fulfill in real life a fantasy about intimately plowing a Victoria’s Secret model, it is equally true women wouldn’t hesitate to be the defiled bedroom slave of a charmingly sociopathic, powerful alpha male.
Think about this revelation for more than a Twitter’s length moment. These pulpy romance books targeted at female audiences are all implausibly similar; you will never encounter a plot line that deviates much from the universal script except in the most trivial details. There is a badboy. There is an indignation, or a series of indignations, to which the female “protagonist” consents or endures, and enjoys despite her conscious declaration to the contrary. There is a niceguy the woman feels bad about not loving. There are societal expectations that add drama to the proceedings. There is sexual surrender preceded by interminable verbal foreplay (the “close-up” for the female reader). And there are pages upon pages of delirious, exquisite hamstering.
Feminists rush to claim that these sordid female fantasies are just that: fantasy. But then why is it these books of female porn never showcase a woman having a torrid affair with an attentive, polite beta male who does the dishes and shows up for dates on time? If these desires were outcroppings of the realm of fantasy alone, severed from real desirous thoughts that can be acted upon, then reason dictates women in all their glorious individuality — nawalt, don’t you know! — would fantasize in the fantasy-dedicated lobes of their brains about a random assortment of scenarios and male archetypes. Yet the thematic universality persists.
The conclusion is obvious: women fantasize about the types of men they do (like the slavemaster from Fifty Shades) because, like men watching porn, it gets them off. And what one dreams about — or reads or watches — to get oneself off is thrillingly close to the same thing that gets one off in earthbound life where flesh meets actual flesh.
It’s a good thing beta males are being exposed to this raw look at female nature in ever greater numbers. From the mouths of (aging) babes. Chalk one up for the information superhighway and its unsupervised off-ramps kicking a peg from under the princess pedestal. Perhaps with this new, unsettling knowledge, more betas will train themselves to become alpha and in turn make more women happier and sexually fulfilled. Or perhaps this cadre of illuminated betas will drop out, resigned to their hopelessness and cynicism, and slowly, inexorably withdraw the funds and the mental fuel that prop up the de facto polygyny society in which they play little part except as mop-up crew after the main attraction has ended.
Either way, the rouge has washed off this whore. The illusion is shattering. No one wants to be a dupe. My prediction is that women will regret having thrown the doors wide open on their whipped and gagged ids, invigorating hordes of disaffected or romantically noncommittal beta males in consequence. The losers in this game will rightly wonder what it has gotten them. And the heretics will say some roars were better left stifled.
In the meatime, as always…
I’ll be poolside.

I know this shit to be true, but the scale of female conspiracy never fails to chill this OmegaBoiiii…..it doesn’t seem possible to be what women want, when being that charming sociopath feels so horrible, and yeah, hot sex doesn’t feel good enough to justify the evolution to alpha 😦
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and…..cue Mickey Rourke retro-moment….
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What a fucking scene! I’m definitely going to try that with an “Alpha” female. No point trying it on some girl when she’s already in to you.
And Kim Basinger is extremely hot.
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nah, beta males ain’t going to learn nothing. First and foremost they still are overwhelmed by beauty and they’re too scared to scare off their snookiewookums by sexually acting out in that manner.
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The book is terribly written, a very boring read, I can hardly wait to get it over with. I really don’t want vagina and clitoris used as descriptive words – it reads like a medical exam. I think it’s time I entered the ring – show women what real female porn reads like. Just sayin’. ( and this book shows men what I’ve been saying for years – we do like submitting)
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Hell, just post it in here.
It’d be funny to see these SWPL nimrods, who think they’re sooooo edgy for rubbing their fossilized clitorii over this tripe, visit an actual BDSM club or read some of the old Parker or Orestes stories from the 1990s newsgroups.
Re: the OP, I think my balls shriveled three sizes just reading that poor schlub’s pitiful attempt at using the BDSM angle to get laid. I hope you helped him out by providing background music in the key of PBBBPBBBPBPBPBT.
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i’ll be your jew agent, aoefe we’ll make a fortune
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This shit comes and goes in cycles.
I love how every few years, uptight bitches and their media act like they’ve discovered some new, depraved shit when stuff like “Gone with the Wind”, “My Secret Garden”, “The Kinsey Report”, etc. and the grandmother of them all, The Kama Sutra, have been around for years.
Perhaps uptight women’s clitorises are cicada that emerge every 7 years and need to be rubbed with a different book containing the same message.
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“clicada”
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Was guy on the phone also taking a shit? If so, I’m inclined to give him some points.
My review of the book:
http://delicioustacos.com/2012/03/23/book-review-fifty-shades-of-grey-by-e-l-james/
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That review is genius. My favorite part:
“Right now your mom is pretending to be a girl who literally just turned old enough to drink, who meets a notorious but reclusive billionaire “industrialist” who made huge sums of money in the way that women think “industrialists” make money, which is: they don’t know, so he just owns a bunch of factories where things are made by hand right here in the good old U S of A and a bunch of farms where man and beast alike are treated ethically and humanely. When asked about his massive hoard of non-inherited money bootstrapped from nothing with the sweat of his brow the man, who is under thirty, speaks of how he “knows people” and the key is his forty thousand employees, all of whom he has hand-selected and pays what they’re worth and listens to their ideas and etc., even though his army of hot young blonde secretaries are terrified of him.”
And I am shocked, shocked to find that this is just Twilight fanfic with the names changed.
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They will regret this being made mainstream, for it opens the doors to terrible, terribly justified misogyny.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLZZZ
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Absolutely brilliant review! I checked this book out to see what the hype was about, and it reminds me of the sort of thing women would read once they outgrow the Twilight series.
Which is to say, fucking terrible, terrible writing. I don’t know how anyone could get wet reading such clunky, loquacious phrasing.
[heartiste: i was about to say there are a lot of dumb women out there, but then i remembered that the core audiecne for this tripe appears to be middle and upper middle class SWPL chicks.]
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Hot, dumb chicks have never heard of the lit porn tripe paraded around by SWPL chicks & NY Times bestseller lists. Hot, dumb chicks are too busy getting laid. That’s why women always put down dumb chicks.
I’m going to be the first on here to say that dumb chicks are superior to smart chicks.
Dumb chicks are inherently more feminine and don’t need a trivial novel to turn them on. They just need your raw masculinity.
Research shows that women’s estrogen increases when they are around men with high testosterone. So it wouldn’t be a stretch to think that a man’s testosterone increases when he’s around high estrogen women. Which puts your testoterone levels through the roof: fucking a hot, dumb chick? Or fucking a pretty, but man-jawed, careerist lawyer who’s always trying to usurp rank?
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[heartiste: i was about to say there are a lot of dumb women out there, but then i remembered that the core audiecne for this tripe appears to be middle and upper middle class SWPL chicks.]
Yeah, dumb women.
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Jesus that was fucking epic.
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“Or perhaps this cadre of illuminated betas will drop out, resigned to their hopelessness and cynicism, and slowly, inexorably withdraw the funds and the mental fuel that prop up the de facto polygyny society in which they play little part except as mop-up crew after the main attraction has ended.”
This is my road. The hypergamous bitches can live 5 to an Alpha douche bag in his soft harem. I can only hope there will be such a dearth of willing betas that the whole ship sinks socioeconomically.
Then after a few hundred years of grinding poverty everyone wakes the fuck up and restricts women’s rights and choices once more, in a co-Alpha society.
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Naah. Howard bloom was right. It will be communism or islam.
I bet communism and then islam. France and Sweden are showing us the way.
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Look at Britain…
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That video is infuriating. If I were Sarah, I’d try to marry an American or an Australian and get out of England.
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There is clearly a vacuum being filled. I am a non-praticing Catholic, because the testosterone left The Church once and for all after Vatican II. Nature abhors a vacuum.
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I watched less than a minute of this video, and now I can see where Pat Condell is coming from..
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I like Islam because feminists [claim to] hate it!
Otherwise I think it’s just as irrational as Judaism, Christianity, Cabala, and bush-man polytheism…
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Beta males are finally getting exposed to what women really want.
This isn’t a good thing. We need the betas to be the worker slaves in our modern economy and to support families.
More betas learning game = more competition amongst men.
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The depravity of female desire never ceases to amaze me.
Even all the prim, God-fearing old grannies have well-thumbed copies of Harold Robbins.
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Woman a tramps who just want to get pronged good… as if they ever weren’t.
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And check these…
Woman on The Frisky complains how her husband is a “cockblock”…
http://www.thefrisky.com/2012-01-26/girl-talk-my-husband-cockblocks-me/
Mother of four shacks up with new rich boyfriend while supported by husband…
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/double_wife_in_deep_do_do_i0T9zgl3Qtqhxc4Q74IkRK
Woman accusing Greg Kelly of rape snuck out on her boyfriend, had sex with Kelly on her boss’ desk and texted him before and after– before she found she was pregnant and it became “rape”…
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/01/29/woman-who-accuses-nypd-boss-son-greg-kelly-rape-exchanged-17-texts-following/
Real-life cuckold abuse/pregancy scene by wife and her new boyfriend…
http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1114925–man-brutally-tortured-by-his-wife-and-her-boyfriend-in-toronto-apartment
Without morals and foresight, women lie and think with their crotch.
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Cockblock? Dude should f@#$ing COLDCOCK her.
The shit some guys put up with. . .
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once all the betas withdraw, all the equipment of modern society does too
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Yeah. Who wants to used like a sucker forever? Without monogamy and commitment, civilization goes down the crapper.
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The knowledge of how to make “the equipment” will still be there.
What’s important is for those who are able to make stuff, to withhold it from those who are trying to get a piece of it by pulling rank or subterfuge. Then, if the only darned way to even feed oneself is to do something useful for others………
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^ An idiot.
The knowledge doesn’t mean shit if you don’t have enough intelligent pepole to operate it, and hey! Guess what happens in a society in which intelligent pepole have less children and stupid pepole have more, especially in a society in which there’s a correlation between “Betaness” and intelligence?
Check out Detroit, intelligent, peacefull white pepole left, and what happened to the city?
South Africa – white pepole ruled, what’s happening over there right now?
Get it into your head, pepole aren’t equal, and intelligent pepole, the same pepole which are currently demonized by society (the “1%”, the “nerds” in TV and so on) are the ones who made society as it is known today.
The last time a major western civilization collapsed, it was around 1700 years ago, when Rome fell, 2,000 years ago, it had cities with more than a million citizens, advanced sewege systems, roads and so on, it collapsed and wasn’t eclisped until around 1300-1400 after than, when the knowledge was found.
What do you think is going to happen when the internet is gone?
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I get your comment about Detroit.
However, the richest 1% and the smartest 1% have very little overlap; the richest 1% are mostly the most ruthless greedy monkeys.
Learn how to spell “people.”
[heartiste: this is actually an interesting statistical question. how much overlap do the richest 1% and the smartest 1% have? I’d imagine greater overlap than the poorest 1% and dumbest 1% have.]
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Yeah, Atlas will shrug…
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Sometimes when girls are fishing for compliments and getting annoying, I throw in a line from Story of O just to amuse myself and see how they react: “That xyz looks good on you, but you would look better in chains”.
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Dont try dat shit wit a BLACK woman!!
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How are black women different?
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Ha ha i was joking with the idea of a white gentleman making a reference to “chains’ to a black female. Best step gingerly there sailor! Hi-ever once she is warmed up,wet,juicy and good-to-go I imagine she would LOVE some of that Brown Sugar stuff! How are balck women different? well theyre like white women–only more so!!
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They aren’t. I’m a reforming beta, and I can get my current g/f who is black to do freakier shit than I ever did with my whte ex-wife, and she just keeps coming back for more. I think she’s happy to find a white guy who isn’t a SWPL herb trying to prove he’s color blind.
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The plural of anecdote is not data, and you’ve only got one anecdote.
The only woman I’ve gotten to squirt was black. Tasty she was, too.
Times have perhaps changed, but once upon a time many black men wouldn’t use their mouths. The black women I knew were pleasantly surprised at me.
A former co-worker, a black man (who was also a minister in a church, used to say, “Show me a man who won’t eat his woman, and I’ll show you a woman who’s ready for me.”
This is not really freaky, of course, but some people think it is.
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Well, I’m screwed. A lifetime of programming – or perhaps it is just common decency – has left me with an actual dislike for porn where the woman is forcibly degraded. Example: it seems that many of the oral flicks today concentrate on men forcing their junk down woman’s throats, causing them to gag repeatedly. Me no like.
Call me an “illuminated beta”. I’m dropping out.
[heartiste: i don’t like the gagging either. saliva and phlegm are gross. i do appreciate a pinpoint accurate facial, though.]
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Nothing beats a creampie.
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the gagging is a bit over the top, but women do love a good forceful skullfucking.
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You probably won’t believe it but there are normal healthy intelligent functional seemingly-innocent women who LOVE being forced to gag on a cock. Like actually requesting the rough “ram her head on and off it till she gags and tears up” or “hold her head with two hands and skullfuck her till the back of her throat is sore and raw” type deep-thrusting that offends you and leaves her with gagged up spit dripping down their chin (unless you smear it across their face of course). Like they’re turned on by being used for the guy’s pleasure and it actually gets them wet. They won’t do these things or even admit they like them, to anyone but an alpha who doesn’t judge them. But they’ll go out and secretly buy 50 Shades of Grey and such.
So if some women enjoy the activity, does that conflict with your views of that sort of porn being indecent abuse that men are doing TO women vs that men and women are doing together, mutually, for the pleasure of both parties involved?
I already know your answer, I’m just presenting a view from inside the secret society to make you and people who agree with your comment think.
Exploring the deep aspects of seduction forces you to confront a lot of views you have in a very uncomfortable way. The hardest part of pickup isn’t what you say or do, it’s how you deal with the results you get and the sometimes illusion-shattering knowledge you gain.
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“You probably won’t believe it but there are normal healthy intelligent functional seemingly-innocent women who LOVE being forced to gag on a cock. Like actually requesting the rough “ram her head on and off it till she gags and tears up” or “hold her head with two hands and skullfuck her till the back of her throat is sore and raw” type deep-thrusting that offends you and leaves her with gagged up spit dripping down their chin (unless you smear it across their face of course). Like they’re turned on by being used for the guy’s pleasure and it actually gets them wet.”
One of the girls I’m banging right now is all about this. I’ve got a somewhat big cock, and she just likes to slurp on it and try to force my glans past her gag reflex. Then, just before she starts retching, she pulls it back out and starts sucking on it again.
I don’t even need to do foreplay any more. She wants 10 minutes of my cock, and then her wetness is dripping down her leg. I then proceed to fuck her brains out whilst grabbing her hair, gently biting her, and trying to penetrate her ass (that’s a difficult one).
By the way, she’s a second-year resident who will be a brilliant doctor one day. You’d never think she was into this, but the girl will do almost anything I tell her to. I just wish she were hotter (6.5), but she obviously passes the boner test.
YaReally, when are you starting your own blog?
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“You probably won’t believe it but there are normal healthy intelligent functional seemingly-innocent women who LOVE being forced to gag on a cock. Like actually requesting the rough “ram her head on and off it till she gags and tears up” or “hold her head with two hands and skullfuck her till the back of her throat is sore and raw” type deep-thrusting that offends you and leaves her with gagged up spit dripping down their chin (unless you smear it across their face of course). Like they’re turned on by being used for the guy’s pleasure and it actually gets them wet.”
I’m no alpha, but even so I can say from experience that this is true as god’s word. I would never have believed it when I was a high school guy, if someone, even my best friend, would have told me this. Now… seeing is believing. The person I thought first when I read that bit by YaReally was this sporty, butterfly-like cheerful girl, blonde and blue-eyed and pleasingly shapely in spite of having some more height than I’d prefer. She wasn’t very smart by my standards, but she was all love&kindness to everyone – you know, the kind who always donates for charities to help the whales and the (still) starving folks of African country X that’s only received aid for like sixty years and big on human rights and stuff. Looking at her being all polite and laughing and smiling at everything or reminding that everyone needs to respect everyone when there’s some heated argument going on, you’d never imagine she greatly enjoyed getting on her knees to choke on a dick. Women are… strange.
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Look, if you don’t like a particular brand of porn, fine. I respect that. Interracial anl midget chubby lesbian tranny porn? Not my cup of tea. So you might like slow, sensuous blowjob videos — but that doesn’t make it right to criticize the folks that like a good throat-stuffing. It’s not a matter of “common decency” — it’s a matter of what gets you off. And what tickles your fancy is not going to mesh with what 90% of the world enjoys — that doesn’t make you a bad person or lacking in decency. Folks who enjoy BDSM don’t want to see people injured, they want to indulge their fantasies of control and constraint.
Tastes in porn are very individual, and once you start throwing around criticism and judgment, be aware that you leave your own tastes open for criticism and judgment. So leave off the “illuminated” from your beta, because a truly illuminated beta would respect the right of any man to indulge in the legal porn of his choice without judgment. That smacks of feminism, at worst, and unmanly squeamishness at best.
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The truly illuminated (or even the halfway illuminated) realize legality has got exactly nothing to do with anything other than a random thugband enforcing random tripe, because they can temporarily get away with it.
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Look, I said I was beta. And I’m old, too – 57.
I’m sorry I came off judgemental – you have the right to view any porn where all involved consented, or participate in any activity where everybody consents.
It’s a whole different world than when I was young (I think).
I believe you when you say there are women that like that stuff – I’ve heard it from too many to discount it.
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***“I don’t get it, but this is all women are talking about. It makes me think that they want to be submissive. Submissive to a man.”***
Having recently dabbled in some online dating with bored women seeking affairs, I can say this is what many crave. Common factors: wanting to be dominated, spanked, have their hair pulled, taken roughly.
One in particular told me online she wanted me to turn her over on her stomach (“gently, but so I don’t have a choice in the matter”), then to tie her hands to the headboard, spread her legs, kneel behind her and place my d1ck in her a8s.
We then had a discussion about this which ended with her saying her “sweet and kind” partner had returned home. She finished with “maybe I can persuade him to give me some rough an8l, but I doubt it.”
Later I messaged her asking why her partner couldn’t do what she wanted. She explained that she was “quite shy” in real life and he treated her how he thought a woman should be treated. So wasn’t sufficiently rough or dominating.
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A little bit of information regarding womens’ desire for dominance, manifested in the form of hair-pulling, choking, rape simulation, sore and bruised vaginal walls, won’t change betas fundamentally. The transformation to alpha requires foundational changes in attitude, self-perception and emotions. A Whole Foods SWPL male, coming home to his cat and doing work for a female co-worker while she receives a bit of anal in a bar restroom at the hands of a bearded man yelling “take it, whore”, isn’t about to enter Dark Triad territory anytime soon. No, instead he will quietly return to late night masturbating to female domination porn.
And that’s the way it should be. More of that dripping wet, gooey pussy for us to enjoy.
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Take it whore?
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More like: “Take it all, bitch!”
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Right you are. Only the super betas and the child-abused boys, later alphas will realize this and move up.
Feminism removed women as social targets, and left the crosshairs on the betas and omegas. This will change, but don’t be a martyr in the meantime, gents.
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Fifty Shades of Gay.
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Amazon has 811 reviews for this!
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Ten years ago the big best-selling fantasy novel was Kushiel’s Dart, a kind of Story of O with magic. Five years ago the big fad was Twilight, about a chick who’s in love with a goddamned vampire. Now this Shades of Grey. Softcore S&M porn is pretty much a guaranteed formula for success with women readers. Has been since, well, The Story of O — you didn’t think it was just guys buying that, did you?
The evidence has been under men’s noses for a long time; they just keep ignoring it.
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The movie Secretary nicely put this all together as well. In the behind the scenes, the creator talks about how the studio wanted him to make the titular Secretary (sad turtle Maggie Gyllenhal) abandon the man who degrades her (James Spader) for the nice-guy-beta in her life. The creator talks about how he balked very much at this, since it was much more realistic for her to continue to be the fuck-slave of her older, degrading boss.
The creator won out. And if you want a woman to beg you to treat her like dog shit, put this on and make her watch it after you’ve had sex with her.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretary_%28film%29
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Yup… head down, ass up, beyatch– that’s the way women like it (even if they don’t admit it).
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You’re on a roll. I raise my glass of Highland Park 18 to you.
” Perhaps with this new, unsettling knowledge, more betas will train themselves to become alpha and in turn make more women happier and sexually fulfilled. Or perhaps this cadre of illuminated betas will drop out, resigned to their hopelessness and cynicism,”
Nietzsche said men were basically divided into two classes: masters and slaves.
Your friend Anatoly in “Treatise of Love” divides men into HR and LR. Same thing.
There is much truth in this bifurcation when you look around.
The only people you can help are those men with enough latent Alpha traits to cross the Rubicon. They are currently in the Higher Beta/Lesser Alpha territory. They see a better life for themselves, and the potential to become better men.
These men, and a lot of them commenting on this blog, are ready for an awakening. Or they’ve been dealt such a blow in the recent past with a slut whore ex-wife/girlfriend that burned them that it shook them to their core.
These are the disciples. These are the men that are going to take the ball and run with it, that will see what the women around them in their lives really want, and give it to them.
Everybody else are Nietzsche’s hopeless slaves – the great mass of Betas, and Omegas. Hopeless and pointless
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Damn right, Highland Park 18.
Don’t forget this huge upcoming demographic of boys raised by single moms, and those raised by bitch-woman/mangina couples.
Hell hath no fury like a strong, humiliated man with something to prove.
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I’m not sure the rising generation will meet up to any sort of standards. Porn and videogames will satisfy their baser instincts, and are cheaper than entertaining a woman. A minority will step up to shape their future. Most will be content to sit in dimly lit rooms, their dreams flickering like the images on the screen.
They’ll be great for other men to sell ideas, media, and products though, just as the burgeoning female workforce has been since the 60’s. Attention future capitalists: pay attention to this demographic.
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Good point. It would take some future unknowns to make porn and videogames a non-option for the majority of betas/omegas. Rising above beta once and for all in The Game is as hard as raising your social class.
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A bit bad for women though, as if they have kids, the kids need to be in Private School. Otherwise they tend to get oh I dunno, set on fire. And other things.
Just as the supply of betas is set to crash (nope, you can’t even keep SWPL-ized beta males from this), women are set to NEED them (as government spending and resources collapse, see Detroit, Stockton, Greece, etc.) Even a marginal increase in resources from a beta male is the difference between their kid (well, boy anyway) set on fire, or not. Call this a Giffen Good, like rotten potatoes in the Irish Famine.
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Books that expose the true nature of women have been around for a long time. The Story of O was first published in the 1950s. In the 60s there were books by Iceberg Slim, Jackie Susann, and Xaviera Hollander, among others. In the 70s Nancy Friday published a book called My Secret Garden which explains it all rather explicitly.
So the knowledge has existed. The problem is that people reject the truth because they would rather believe pretty lies. Some betas even reject the lessons of their own personal experiences, when they conflict with their happy delusions.
There are none so blind as those who do not want to see.
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Naaaaw don’t be so sure. I’m not alpha yet, but I’ve known women like it rough and controlling since college. All it took was noticing what happened to a woman’s breathing when I would take different actions and presto. They prefer rough.
That being said, there’s a crucial gap that must be jumped, between knowing women like a controlling man in the bedroom, to BEING that controlling man in public, and being confident enough to survive the shit tests. The former does not automatically lead to the latter.
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High Plains Drifter stuff, uh?
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i like getting tied up once in while by blonds. preferably canadians, but they often forget how to untie knots.
overall – not into the BD. but, i am a fan like you on the whole BM thing
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I was choking and slapping a chick I know in the bar on Friday (in my defense she was slapping me back lol). We were both in the moment and on our way to fucking, but after a slap I glanced around and realized that a bunch of guys and a couple bouncers were looking at us haha
I was literally like “oh ya, shit, we’re in public whoops” and toned it down and made sure to be lovey for a few min so it was clear she liked me, cause I know most of them 1) couldn’t comprehend that this wasn’t abuse and 2) that most of them would jump in in a heartbeat to beat my ass and “rescue” her without asking questions first and 3) they would consciously or subconsciously be thinking that rescuing her like that would make her want to fuck them but have no idea that it wouldn’t.
It’s gonna be a looooooong time before the circle of White Knights doesn’t appear from the shadows ready to defend a princesses honor. Even if they all read this book, like the guy on the phone, they won’t believe it until a woman admits to them flat out that yes, women love that. And even THEN he’ll just rationalize to himself that she’s mentally damaged.
The human brain is fascinating.
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Yep, good old White Knights, clueless as ever. Dudley Do-Right… Don Quixote… they never learn.
When reality conflicts with their cherished delusions, they reject reality.
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YaReally said:
“3) they would consciously or subconsciously be thinking that rescuing her like that would make her want to fuck them but have no idea that it wouldn’t.”
You hit the nail on the head, again.
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haha – you’re a moron.
You make it sound like “Society” is “like, down on you, man” for your inappropriate Public Behavior.
Next time, perform in public, something else considered private. Like shitting on her chest by the coatcheck – maybe then, the bouncers won’t notice so much.
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Shit, you’re right. I’d better stick to holding hands in public at most and keep all sexual activity to the bedroom where we can politely have missionary sex only.
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WTF is your problem?
Yeah, all men should just do nothing when seeing a man slap a woman in public, because she MIGHT really want it.
Why does keeping the domination sex private mean .. not slapping her when you have sex in private, but only missionary? You are being ridiculous.
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“You are being ridiculous.”
Yes, I am. Ridiculous reply gets a ridiculous reply.
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That’s kwl. Any non-sexual activity – just so long as you don’t breed.
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So, Trayvon Martin=skittles man?
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Yup. 🙂
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Firepower I’m a prairie girl and haven’t yet learned how to untie sailer knots but I can do a good binder twine if you’re interested.
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“The depravity of female desire never ceases to amaze me.”
When, oh when, will sex stop being viewed as depravity? Screwing children – yes. Consenting adults who enjoy the pleasures of the flesh in whatever forms that may take does not depravity make. Srsly.
[heartiste: i like to think of such pregnantly moralizing language as poetic license. a touch of taboo titillates the tingle.]
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Female desire is depraved from the point of view of males because it is so ignominiously fickle and promiscuous and therefore horribly unattractive.
Sex isn’t depravity but sluts — real sluts with above-average sexual partner counts, for instance — are unattractive to men with options. The desire isn’t depravity, but the slutty behavior is. A slut is a slut is a slut. I think Gertrude Stein said that.
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“When, oh when, will sex stop being viewed as depravity?”
What is this, aoefe, a TED lecture?
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“Sex is filthy when I’m not involved”.
That’s the guiding principle of men’s social judgement. Deal with it.
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Really now, Anon, that kind of unintelligent response serves no one.
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Unintelligent perhaps, true nonetheless.
How else do you explain this male duality, where we love to fuck sluts, but blame them for fucking other guys?
Evolution made male nature as selfish, emotional and contradictory as female nature. It’s just more obvious, and less deceitful.
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@ Heartiste – Taboo yes!
@AHE – Oh and men still love sluts though they just won’t marry them or take them home to mother. Honestly I think there’s a type of slut that gets the bad rap and that’s the hard core bar slut. The lady in the streets, freak in the sheets type still gets a pass. And like R has said before if she is above a certain beauty number she kinda gets a pass.
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I’m bi but lean towards men. But it leads to some uncomfortable situations because I still like women so I agree to their advances sometimes. I don’t act beta but things don’t work out anyway. The last one complained precisely because I was not being caring, attentive, helpful or whatever. Maybe it was a screen for the fact that I wasn’t really getting hard when we made out and she pretended it was this other stuff. But boy did she become one raving bitch and blamed it on me being “domineering” and not being caring or whatever. When the real reason was I wasn’t sexually satisfying her, or that’s what I think anyway. But not being beta is not enough to make up for that anyway.
Are gays omega? What about a bi guy who’s on the fence? I don’t pedestalize women and am not especially attracted to them, but I like them enough to engage sometimes. But then it doesn’t really end well.
Which is worse from the woman’s point of view, not wanting to fuck her at all, or not acting beta? Is combination of alpha but not being interested in fucking her too much a bad thing.
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I think gays probably are alpha, beta, or omega just like straight men. Remember that the S/M scene here was pretty much pioneered by gay men.
As many commenters have said, acting beta is worse than disinterest. Bits of disinterest are frequently used by Gamers, whereas beta is the total buzzkill.
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I could be wrong, but I don’t think alpha/beta/omega categories apply to gay men, just as they don’t apply to women. Gay men, being men, don’t require the same mental gymnastics and hamster stroking women need to be talked into bed. From my observations, men don’t care if their gay partners are alpha or beta – they just need to be good-looking and DTF.
In terms of how bi men come across to women, I don’t think it applies either since it’s such a niche group. Women are either into bi men, or they aren’t. If a known bi guy hit on me I wouldn’t care if he was alpha, beta, or omega – I’m not into dudes who screw other dudes.
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I think you’re wrong, in the sense that gay men don’t have alpha/beta/etc. categories — quite the contrary. Gay men are even more adept about calling out such things.
Straight men could learn a lot from gay men, if they could get over the homophobia and pay attention. Far from being “unmasculine”, gay culture gives us a very intriguing idea of how masculinity can express itself removed from the influence of women and female sexuality.
Don’t misunderstand me — I don’t advocate abandoning women and everyone going gay, I love pussy too much. And to be honest, most of us just aren’t hot enough to make it in the homosexual community. But take away the sexual stigma and examine gay culture in terms of masculine culture, and despite the stereotypes you will discover things that unite us as men, gay and straight, that should be respected across sexual preference.
And if you are a floundering Beta desperately in search of a blowjob, by all means seek out a gay dude. He’ll help you fix your wardrobe, get better hair, and tell you what a fat slob you are and how you’d never make it past the first week in South Beach, and thank goodness you’re straight because only a woman would put up with that kind of bullshit. Gay observations of feminine behavior (and occasional interpretations) can likewise be valuable.
Can anyone point out the Gay part of the Manopshere? Professional interest . . .
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There’s only one way that alpha/beta matters among gays or men who are into other men. Even if you’re good looking there may be things that can screw up your chances for certain kinds of sex. For example if you’re buff and good looking but effeminate in your affects it might be harder to get most guys to let you be on top. But others will allow that, and of course if you’re acting effeminate you might as well be the catcher anyway.
But there is no way of improving your chances with guys if you’re ugly, other than paying for it. The idea that I would fuck with an ugly or even average-looking guy because he acts cool or alpha is ridiculous. I’ve also never seen a hot guy be with a not-hot guy unless it was for money.
My problem and the reason I posted is that I still like women and would like to have a romantic relationship with a woman (something I’d never do with a man). But it never works, I don’t have enough sexual interest for them I guess, and then the excuse they use is that I’m not caring/inattentive or whatever.
[heartiste: prolonged sexual inattentiveness is not alpha. women love careless alphas, but not in the bedroom. it sounds like you are just full-on gay if you can’t muster the strength to get it up for women.]
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[heartiste: prolonged sexual inattentiveness is not alpha. women love careless alphas, but not in the bedroom. it sounds like you are just full-on gay if you can’t muster the strength to get it up for women.]
Yes I agree, I just meant that women sometimes use the excuse of “you’re uncaring/inattentive/unhelpful” in general life to complain or break things off. I don’t think that’s why they actually break things off most of the time, but there are situations in which they use that as an excuse and I think at times you’ve said that in a relationship you must also show occasional beta behavior. My only point is that women will eventually break things off, at least on a surface level, because the guy is “uncaring” etc., and maybe sometimes they also do it for real, like if a genuine alpha guy is clearly going to treat them badly and never do anything caring/helpful/etc. as boyfriend or husband. Of course I’m not saying that applies in my case, just that they used it as an excuse for the fact I wasn’t sexually satisfying them.
As for the other point I think you’re also right unfortunately, this doesn’t get talked about a lot but the depressing fact is that many “gay” guys are probably turned on by women to some extent but it’s fear or weakness (and not just lack of desire) that gets in the way of their being able to penetrate them regularly. This doesn’t get mentioned I think because it shows homosexuality to be the degenerate debility that it actually is in many cases. I think it’s sad because I’d like to be able to do that with a woman but most of the time it’s not just lack of desire but also sheer terror that stops me.
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biguyinLA
“This doesn’t get mentioned I think because it shows homosexuality to be the degenerate debility that it actually is in many cases. I think it’s sad because I’d like to be able to do that with a woman but most of the time it’s not just lack of desire but also sheer terror that stops me.”
You will find a girlfriend, I’m sure! I’m glad you started thinking about this and you’re in a very good way to become “straight”. You know, there is no gay gene and you were not born gay (I’m sure you feel you were born that way – I felt like that too – but in reality, this theory has never been proven). I have some advice for you:
-Stop telling girls that you are gay – no girl will take you seriously after you tell them about your homosexuality (please read this Tyler Durden’s post about Secret society of women).
-Stop having sex with men – most grown-up women are not into guys who sleep with other guys. Actually, I find it repulsive. Please don’t judge me – men are also disgusted by women who sleep with many other men.
-Ignore your same-sex attractions (keep telling yourself that it’s natural and normal to have homosexual feelings from time to time (or all the time) but it’s a waste of time to follow them)
-Keep reading this blog. It has much more consistent worldview compared to feminism/LGBT theories.
Btw. I’m not religious and I don’t hate gay people, I just believe that most gay people would feel better if they changed their sexual orientation (It’s very easy – I did it myself) – like fat people would feel better if they lost some weight.
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You’re right about men. The only thing that matters for guys who are into other guys is looks. If you don’t have the looks there’s nothing and I mean nothing you can do to improve your chances with “game.” The very idea that I’d fuck with an ugly guy with “game” is ridiculous. I’ve never seen it happen either. Also after you’re about 30 or 35 your ability to fuck with hot guys is basically over. The only thing is that doing it for money is much more common in any homosexual encounter, so if you’re ugly or old you can still get hot guys (who are not professional prostitutes) if you’re willing to pay for it. That used to be more common in the 1950’s though.
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“Are these degrading things he puts her through… are they exciting for women? I’ll never have a conversation again without thinking she really wants to be tied up and… yeah, women want submission… it’s nuts.”
I hate it when men ask a woman to tell him their opinion, so he can know what [all] women think. She doesn’t know what “women” like any more than he does.
[heartiste: sexual desire is highly uniform in the fundamentals within sex. most women do like to submit to a powerful man. get used to this reality, or die deluding yourself.]
Yes, many women like being submissive (not sure why that’s such a bad thing to you lot, I’m sure some of you have fetishes). So do many men, judging by some of the porn you can find online, professional dominatrixes, and so on. Books like this might appeal to those women. But, does every singe woman read those books? Of course not.
[this is a lie. most porn marketed to straight men features the man in the dominant role. men who like to be submissives are the distinct minority.]
Anyway, I thought this book was getting attention for being published Twilight fanfic, not for being about BDSM – and the article I saw about it was pretty clear that it was about consensual BDSM, not a controlling violent guy. Not the same thing. There was even some bit about how the submissive partner was really the one in control, I believe.
[and black is white, and there will be pie in the sky by and by.]
Anyway, it’s not my thing, so I won’t be reading it. But I do wish so many women wouldn’t try to speak for all women, and assume that their opinions are the opinions of all women, not just themselves.
[does it frighten you that most women share these debased fantasies?]
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From what I’ve seen, women who like to be dominant and men who like to be submissive are in the distinct minority – so much so that submissive men pay pro dominatrixes hundreds of dollars an hour for their services. How many men do you know who pay hundreds of dollars for the services of a submissive woman? The market doesn’t lie regarding relative scarcity.
Even in vanilla relationships, most women enjoy being spanked, having their hair pulled etc. – and most men enjoy delivering those services. I can’t imagine a similar number of men who enjoy being tied up and having dildos shoved up their butts – or a commensurate number of women who enjoy doing this to men.
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Mel says, “Yes, many women like being submissive (not sure why that’s such a bad thing to you lot, I’m sure some of you have fetishes). So do many men, judging by some of the porn you can find online, professional dominatrixes, and so on.”
An ostensibly harmless statement, right? BUT… I see what Mel’s doing here. However, there was a time in the not-too-distant past when I *would not* have been able to identify the shaming/moralizing/NAWALT tactics he/she has deployed, and I would have felt a vague frustration percolating up from my sternum throughout the rest of my day.
But thanks to the CH, and all I’ve been learning from it and it’s many regular commentators, it now seems as if… well, to be frank, it now seems as if I’m really starting to perceive the Matrix. Consequently, no vague sternum frustrations to ruin my day! And who needs any more stress in this workaday world of ours, what with the MyFaces and the Spacebooks and the search Googles?
Nice try though, Mel.
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I always think I’m unique, until I’m in the company of other women. Then I’m reminded how depressingly similar we really are.
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Haha, me too 😀
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You two, go get a room and bump clicadas.
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And then post pictures. I’m going through a bit of a dry spell, you see.
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Wait, did the blogger think I was a man?! Lol.
[heartiste: where did i state you were a man? in fact, i assumed you were a woman by your writing style and your poorly reasoned opinions. heh heh.]
Anyway, my point was that “most” is not “all.” I don’t like it when people say that what “most” women think is what ALL women think.
…and, yeah the fact that so many men think all women have those fantasies IS a bit frightening to me. Because, what if some guy decides to pull this domination stuff on me, thinking I’ll like it, and that I’m lying when I say I don’t because after all, I’m supposed to think people who do like it are “debased?” If I can’t convince him verbally not to do it, and I’m not physically strong enough to stop him?
It’s also a bit depressing to think that I may not be able to get into a relationship at all because I don’t want to be submissive, if so many men assume that’s just normal and expected. If, as Spiralina says, even “vanilla” women are supposed to be okay with being spanked and so on.
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stop with the what ifs… and experience the cock (more than once, three times, plus).
then decide how YOU like it.
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Unless the guy is autistic and can’t read emotions at all, screaming and crying, or visible signs of distress would stop a man who doesn’t want to hurt or rape you. And if you read the previous post on this blog (or even this post more carefully), the world is full of guys who don’t believe women have these fantasies and it’s not expected. The reverse problem seems to be more common – women want the guy to be more dominant, but asking for it directly seems like a contradiction to his dominance and spoils it. So no, I doubt you’d have a problem getting a relationship, because a lot of guys aren’t so dominant at all… Plus I think you can tell by how someone acts before any sex happens, how attentive they will be… If they are too pushy outside the bedroom, they might be pushy inside the bedroom.
[heartiste: the only men who can’t read a woman’s real “no” are psychopaths lacking empathy (rare but exist), spergy types (who are mostly harmless anyhow), criminal thugs who had no intention of heeding their victim’s wishes, or drunks who are too inebriated to comprehend when consent is given. in the latter case, these men are not culpable for rape should a rape occur. women instead need to exercise judgment in avoiding intimate scenarios with very drunk men.]
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Good additions 🙂
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Because, what if some guy decides to pull this domination stuff on me, thinking I’ll like it, and that I’m lying when I say I don’t because after all, I’m supposed to think people who do like it are “debased?” If I can’t convince him verbally not to do it, and I’m not physically strong enough to stop him?
if he’s a beta, you call the cops.
if he’s an alpha, you call your friends.
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I dunno, she might be somewhat right – I asked a male friend why porn features so much gagging on cock and other forceful acts, is that something men like? Told me he liked porn with normal sex in various poses, not the gagging though, and that the gagging and other weird new things come out of men’s desire for novelty, after they become sated on normal porn and it becomes boring.
I think some men are like he says, and some really do like dominating a woman.
[heartiste: gagging and other fetish porn are actually not that common. straight up sex, blowjobs, facials, anal with young attractive slender women account for most of the porn men watch. the reason stuff like gagging and MILF porn seems omnipresent is because we humans have a cognitive bias toward overemphasizing the frequency of exceptions to the rule. we see the rule in action so much, we tend to downplay its significance or occurrence, whereas exceptions tend to leave a stronger mark on our conscious awareness.
also, i suspect a lot of the market for fetish porn — like fat women or grannies — is overrepresented in online clicks by a tiny minority of men who are so obsessive about their freak desires that they skew the overall ratios.]
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Well, the adverts on porn sites seem to most show off teens, MILFs and forcing teens to do things (and sometimes violent lesbian sex). The most popular videos featured are usually more tame (vaginal/anal/oral sex with mostly young women, with a few occasional MILFs). So you’re pretty much right when it comes to videos. I’m still kinda curious why they advertise harder stuff a lot more though. Maybe just a feature of the sites I looked into. Btw, I hate it when I’m watching a beautiful love scene and there is a nasty ad right next to it, showing abused teens or whatever, with their faces red from choking and coverd in jizz. Ew.
(maybe ads show less typical porn because to pay for porn, you gotta have unusual desires or be really addicted to be willing to pay. Just a guess 🙂 )
[heartiste: male dominance is definitely a big theme in online porn. but it’s mostly expressed in a less disgusting manner than gagging. since i am a man, and since most men share the same preferences in women and sexual desire, i can safely assert that my desires are fairly representative of the desires of the majority of men, outlier fetishists to the contary notwithstanding. gagging porn, where the woman is drooling long strings of phlegm and saliva from her mouth as the cock rams the back of her throat and she makes guttural noises like a wild boar is not very enticing to me, so i extrapolate that it is likely not very enticing to most men. but a long, vigorous, loving blowjob with lots of tongue and lip action, finishing up with a hot sticky load to the face? now that’s hot!]
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Women of all walks of life lovez when u bend them over and pull that
perdy hair.
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Word is indeed getting out…
http://www.news.com.au/world/french-survey-discovers-far-right-wing-voters-have-the-most-sex/story-e6frfkyi-1226314930359
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-news/french-survey-discovers-far-right-wing-voters-have-the-most-sex/story-fn3dxity-1226314923897
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Word is indeed getting out.
http://www.yourtango.com/experts/lucia/12-reasons-women-can-t-stand-nice-guys
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Notice the considerably biased slant in that article? It’s an entire twelve point list of the things apparently ‘wrong’ with men– however, not a single mention of female hpergamy!
I hate to reflect on how my lower-beta self would have taken this article at face value by attempting to “act like a jerk” to women I was interested in. And all of it because I never knew the truth of female hypergamy.
My God, how the msm LOATHES humanity!
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‘Ho be telling us straight out… character = weakness/naivete/borring, at least ’cause they don’t know “bad” is bad ’til it’s too late. Too nice? Well I hope you find the @zzhole you’re looking for to treat you like a tight doormat while it’s his other babe’s time of the month.
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It is more complicated than that. Women want to be dominated, indeed want to be enslaved, but they also struggle fiercely to resist domination and to dominate. In a sense they want to lose, but they try very hard to win, and in a sense do want to win. See my post the ancestral environment of females.
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But for them, to lose is to win, and to win is to lose.
Fucking female solipsism!
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I’ve had several women bring over the movie “Secretary” and say hint, hint, nudge, nude, this is what they like. That movie seems to be important among a certain, um, class, of sluts.
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Off-topic, but here’s something the sexual marketplace (SMP) of hypergamous cumdumpsters and scorin’ douchebags has made obsolete:
“Love Letter Lost for 60 Years Finally Recovered,” by Eric Pfieffer, Yahoo! News, 2 Apr 2012
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/love-letter-finally-delivered-60-years-first-written-165305864.html
He proposed long-distance in the letter, she married him anyway despite not getting it and they still married today.
We’ve lost something important. Don’t ever forget it.
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The Dark Triad may not just be associated with a fast life strategy but also a slow life strategy.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886911005708
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Is it normal for a man to be turned of by submission in sex?
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turned on*
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I enjoy a leisurely BM as much as the next guy … but 15 minutes as the norm? Ouch!
[heartiste: you can’t imagine the feeling of accomplishment.]
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“If you decry the one, you must decry the other if you have any interest in being perceived as fair-minded and consistent.”
No. There’s a big difference between male and female porn.
[heartiste: no there’s not, once you adjust for men’s and women’s different sexual desire algorithms.]
While romantic/sadomasochistic novels are innocent,
[tied up and beaten isn’t degrading to women?]
male porn is disgusting and degrading to women.
[that’s just your female bias speaking. to men, male porn is quite romantic and exciting and fun.]
I’m surprised you don’t see the difference 😦
[i’m not surprised you see a difference.
ps how’s the 30 year old virginity thing working out for you?]
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“[tied up and beaten isn’t degrading to women?]”
No, in my imagination, it’s not. In reality, I don’t know.
[heartiste: the question was rhetorical. women love to be dominated in bed (and out of bed), as much as men love to dominate women in bed (and out of bed). so by your standards, if male porn is degrading to women then female porn is degrading to men.]
[that’s just your female bias speaking. to men, male porn is quite romantic and exciting and fun.]
OK, you might be right. I don’t watch male porn so I can’t comment.
[this should be the story of your commenting life.]
[ps how’s the 30 year old virginity thing working out for you?]
Thanks for asking. It’s really bad from time to time but I’m trying to accept it.
[you will be much happier once you get laid. i’m being totally serious.]
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Maya, a small instructional video… female porn is called “Twilight” (or that “Fifty Shades of Gray” thing) so, pardon, if anyone out there is offended.
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Maya’s desire for submission is once again fulfilled by electronic smack-down, care of CH. She doesn’t need to get laid, but she should.
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Yup. Electronic smackdown is a whole lot safer than anything approaching reality…
Kinda like these bizarre omega women I was reading about the other day, who have been in “online” relationships for 5+ years. One of them was quoted as saying, “I love him so much! We’ve been talking for four years now. He lives five hours away [!!!!!!!!!!] so we haven’t met yet, but I’m sure we’ll meet in person someday!”
Uh…no. You won’t. You are delusional and living in a warped fantasy world. Safer? I guess so. Sad? Infinitely so.
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“Safer? I guess so. Sad? Infinitely so.”
It’s an addiction. Sometimes I hate the reality I live in and I can’t solve the problems I have. Instead of putting some more effort into solving the real problems or maybe finding help I rather replace the real world with fantasy. It’s completely safe, very easy and relieves the huge anxiety I feel when I have to face the reality. It’s a waste of my precious time, I know, but I can’t help. I feel very sorry for those girls who are in online relationships for years. btw. Where did you read about them?
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OK, I agree with you … I should think before I write. But I never do. Thanks for correcting my comments.
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I once dated a chick who on the outside was a raving feminist, but in the bedroom liked to be chased around the apartment, tackled, wrestled to the floor, tied, up, spanked, and violated. I thought, I have to get away from this crazy chick. Next girlfriend, also a raving feminist, wanted to be forced to dress like a slut and ordered to perform sex acts on me. I thought, what am I doing to attract all these nut cases? I then met my wife who is great. Beautiful, great personality, seemed normal. Then the sex dried up. I then tried using some game on her, the sex came right back and she is now telling me how much she likes to be treated like a sex object. Here we go again…
What can untie the gordian knot of men not respecting women who act this way, and not being able to love someone they don’t respect, and women not respecting men who respect them?
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“What can untie the gordian knot of men not respecting women who act this way, and not being able to love someone they don’t respect, and women not respecting men who respect them?”
HAHAHA! Clearly girl scouts need to marry sailors 🙂
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christ you GOT TO have big cans
to come up with a comment
like that, do tell
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Just cuz I worked on a farm don’t make me a hoe 😉
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Alpha Greek guy I know: “There is no feminism in the bedroom”.
It’s in their nature to be submissive. They are getting fucked by a cock.
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Check out TMZ. They have a mug shot of that Blonde Chick from “That 70’s show.” Yeah, you remember that blonde, who played the sister and was hot as fuck. Arrested for spousal abuse, and you might say she has hit will and was going about 150 mph when she hit it. Not pretty.
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That would be, she has hit the wall. I’m pretty sure I’m dyslexic, or maybe just have really bad ADD.
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http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/31/that-70s-show-arrested-lisa-robin-kelly/#.T3sircxj4Zw
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Want to see why 90% of betas will never “get” this stuff?
Make a post on reddit asking about this book. Ask if women really like this sort of thing in real life, ask why it is so popular, etc…
Predictably you will hear the cookie-cutter cries of “Its just fantasy!” followed by “NAWALT!!”.
The beta hamster is often just as strong as the female hamster.
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Reddit is the home of white knight sycophants.
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“. . . among well-heeled urban ladies who fancy themselves feminists.”
But apparently even when you call them on it, they say this book is feminist?
“Everyone from so-called ‘mommy bloggers’ to hardcore feminists is hailing the tome as a triumph for women . . . .”
What is going on?
[heartiste: what is going on is nothing less than the long, slow death rattle of western civilization. it was fun while it lasted, but now the freaks have stormed the castle and chaos and confusion reign supreme.]
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Sure is… they want a living Alpha male dildo to ravage them and give them massive multiple orgasms, but not control them or make them responsible for anything in any other sphere of life.
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^ Western women in one sentence
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I see two trend lines heading for a collision course. One, men, especially beta males wising up to women’s true, often quite vile nature. Two, the collapse of the welfare state that replaced all the beta schlub husbands.
What happens when it all falls down and women have no welfare state and no beta schlub willing to be her wage slave?
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Seen Mad Max?
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They become wage slaves, themselves. That’s what happened to an entire generation of women whose sacrifice of family for career is now biting them in the ass. They want marriage and babies now, but the men they want wouldn’t touch them with a stolen dick. So they get bitter, go back to work, another wage slave drone who just happens to have a vagina. Take the vagina off of the table, and you just have another competitor in the workplace.
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Communism. Or some kind of hardcore socialism.
Do not forget that whole western world rule is based on universal suffrage. Guess who is majority in population.
And socialism is not not going to destroy itself this time. Remember we are not in patriarchy any more. And route to Cuba, DPRK and finally Haiti is long and paved with tons of wild sex 🙂
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The Salafis found way around this. Simply by having kids and raising/teaching/educating them at least somewhat properly.
Something no commie society ever did, or ever will, figure out how to do. Communism / Socialism / Progressivism / whatever vs. more civilized cultures will always end the way it did for the Soviets (and does for the Americans) in Afghanistan.
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When I started reading this my first thought was it was a story–from the chick’s perspective–of her Alpha boyfriend/husband. He certainly seemed to have Alpha traits down.
Then I encountered this WTF moment:
WTF? I had to google the term. I think I could feel my T level lowering as I read about it..
So. Is the guy in that story Alpha at all to agree to participate in this crap?
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Straight to my Amazon queue
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I always leave here feeling like I got spanked (being placed in moderation and all). I’m not sure I like it. Maybe I’m not submissive after all…
Jk
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Well, sometimes there is nothing quite like the warm after glow of a good crap.
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Hey didja hear that?
That was the sound of all the air being let out of every ideological premise Susan Walsh has ever espoused on Hooking Up Beta.
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you should take a look at the post by the lesbian woman in this thread. She describes how lesbian women have stared fat shaming each other:
http://www.reuniting.info/content/lesbian-my-experience
When i do online dating, it’s hard to find women who aren’t either poly or up front about being into all kinds of high stimulation sexual practices and they increasingly want the same tight, taut bodies that men reputedly have wanted. Even 10 years ago, it wasn’t as bad as this, with the disparaging of fat women in online lesbian communities like there is now. I am only a little overweight and had fewer body issues dating men (because plenty like “curvy” or large breasted/large hipped women) but now in the gay community, I get to deal with women’s projection of their body issues upon each other. Gay women in my community now work even harder on their bodies than any straight women I know! I can feel this thick vibe of shame and hatred of women’s bodies when I am in an environment where women supposedly love other women’s bodies! It makes no sense!
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well, the obvious solution is to lose weight.
but now there is a much easier solution: simply turn off your gayness and become a normal hetero. it’s as easy as flipping a switch.
because maya said so:
I just believe that most gay people would feel better if they changed their sexual orientation (It’s very easy – I did it myself)
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“but now there is a much easier solution: simply turn off your gayness and become a normal hetero.”
This won’t help. Lesbians might be repulsed by fat women but men are even more judgmental.
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An innocent little girl – 10 years old, and dead. Dead from being too fat.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2120042/The-year-old-girl-died-fat.html
If the temperamental morons at Shakesville, etc. want to call me and the rest here misogynist bastards for our fat shaming activities, then so be it.
We ARE “misogynist” fat-shaming devils….
….who are fighting to keep people like this poor little girl from winding up in coffins.
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Haha if true chick fantasy was about beta males, thats like porno that would black out at every $$$shot and appear again when the two are cuddling postfuck. None of the pleasure all of the nag. And u have to pay 4 it.
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