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Flirty Quips To Female Small Talk

April 9, 2012 by CH

Surprisingly few men know how to flirt. (It’s surprising because, given the importance of flirting to evoking a feeling of incipient sexual release in a girl’s mind, you’d think evolution would have ensured a lot more men are skilled at the craft. I consider the absence of widely distributed flirting skills, particularly among northern europeans and asians, to be evidence that for much of mankind’s ancestral past the sex ratio was skewed enough in the typical man’s favor that he didn’t need to learn how to appeal to women’s romantic needs.)

But I digress. When girls ask simple questions, or when they engage in innocuous chit chat, it’s in your interest as a lover of positive, sexualized female attention to answer them in a flirty way. Training yourself to parry female small talk with unexpected flirtatious jousts is, at the least, great for honing your game, even when it doesn’t lead to a bang.

Here are some examples of what I’m talking about. I routinely employ these quips in my daily life anytime I hear an opening in some banal conversation that I happen to be having with a girl. These examples aren’t meant to be lifted verbatim, (although you may do that), but rather to serve as illustration of the type of mindset you should have whenever you interact with women. (Warning: do not use on fat chicks. They may get the wrong idea.)

GIRL: “What time is it?”

A good time.

GIRL: “You came in late today.”

Hard drug use.

GIRL: “Which way is it to [X]?”

You don’t seem like the kind of girl who’d go there.

GIRL: “How are you?”

Irresistible.

GIRL: “Could you watch my laptop for me for a minute?”

Ok, but close your porn windows first. I have a reputation.

GIRL: “What’d you think of [movie X]?”

All right… ready to hang on my every word?

GIRL: “Are you going to [X’s] party this Friday?”

Yes. You can be happy now.

GIRL: “What do you do?”

You didn’t just ask that.

GIRL: [in an elevator] “Could you press 4?”

This is just like in the movies!

GIRL: “My shift is ending soon. Can I close you out?”

Your flirting skills need work.

GIRL: “I think the coffee machine’s broken.”

Tried to put vodka in it again, didn’t ya?

GIRL: “Where’s your car?”

Tijuana.

GIRL: “That sounds like a good idea.”

Hey, it’s me!

GIRL: “It’s a really nice day today.”

Thanks!

GIRL: “That’s a cool hat.”

Flattery will get you everywhere.

GIRL: “Are you waiting in line?”

I’d better be. Otherwise I’m standing around looking good for nothing.

GIRL: “That’ll be $69.75.”

I bet you say that to all the guys.

Just kidding about that last one. Sort of.

Flirting with women ties into the whole alpha male philosophy of not taking girls seriously. Treating women’s idle politeness like a sounding board for you to amp up the sexual tension and remind your quarry that you are a highly libidinous, fleshy extension of your turgid cock is good for establishing proper and healthy male-female relations.

When you are flippant with women, they sense that you think you are better than them, and that turns them on. Women love a man who is better than them, but they will accept as a substitute a man who simply thinks he is better than them.

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  1. on April 9, 2012 at 4:11 pm A.B. Dada

    “hard drug use” is golden for tons of questions:

    “Why didn’t you write back?”

    “Haven’t seen you online lately.”

    “How was your Easter?”

    Thanks, that’s a keeper.

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  2. on April 9, 2012 at 4:19 pm Javed

    Good examples.

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  3. on April 9, 2012 at 4:20 pm Anon

    Solid post.
    Now waiting for Yareally’s link toward RSDnation guys who broke it down.

    Seriously, this flirting stuff is the most important part of game, I want more.

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    • on April 9, 2012 at 11:08 pm YaReally

      lol this is just DeAngelo’s cocky/funny concept. It’s good to refresh the basics though.

      This is why people who bust on routines are dumb to me. Everyone has their own little routines. Hang out with any natural long enough and you’ll hear him repeat his same stories and jokes and comebacks. It’s not a big deal.

      The trick is to be congruent with your routines and to understand the structure. Like why does it work and how can you rewrite it to fit your personality. A lot of routines that worked for me when I was a newbie don’t work for me now because they’re incongruent so cocky/funny comes off too arrogant. Same time sexual stories don’t have as much shock impact for me now because girls can just tell “ya this is a guy who would say things like that”.

      Your game will never solidify if you go out enough and push boundaries, and that’s a good thing. Once it solidifies and you’re running the same interaction over and over you get bored and it becomes work. If you’re in that situation now, get out of it by pushing yourself further. Go for the kiss sooner, go for the lay sooner, go for the hottest girl, go for the 3-some, etc.

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  4. on April 9, 2012 at 4:22 pm Lara

    Any man who thinks he’s better than me, probably is.

    [heartiste: is skittles man better than you?]

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    • on April 9, 2012 at 4:41 pm Lara

      No, but if I’ve let him see me naked, he has gotten the better of me.

      [heartiste: overconfidence is a more lethal pussy slayer than a fat wallet.]

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  5. on April 9, 2012 at 4:27 pm Hung One On You

    Great line:

    “Women love a man who is better than them, but they will accept as a substitute a man who simply thinks he is better than them.”

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  6. on April 9, 2012 at 4:37 pm lprsic@yahoo.com

    What does it mean to be “better” than someone? Better in what way?

    [heartiste: moar trollish.]

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  7. on April 9, 2012 at 4:37 pm Maya

    Surprisingly few men know how to flirt.”

    Girls don’t know how to flirt either.

    [heartiste: girls are better natural flirts than men.]

    I don’t.

    [color me shocked.]

    My flirting always consisted of shit testing, teasing, wearing cute girlish clothes, behaving like a small cute child, … Now this doesn’t work anymore 😦 Shit testing and teasing sound pathetic when you are 30, wearing girly clothes and pretending that you are a child are also very inappropriate for my age. Any flirting tips for older women?

    [yes. try the basic instinct method.]

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    • on April 9, 2012 at 4:59 pm Maya

      Delete these two comments, please. This is not flirting or anything. I just realized that I’m a pathetic bloodsucker. I shouldn’t be spending my time on your blog anymore. I will go out instead and meet real people, I promise. Bye!

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      • on April 9, 2012 at 5:33 pm Maya

        This is not funny anymore. What’s wrong with me? CH, can you delete your blog?

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      • on April 9, 2012 at 5:40 pm Maya

        I’m not criticizing your writing which is still interesting but I would prefer if you just stop writing this blog – this is the only way that will make me stop reading it. Do that, please.

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 6:07 am Harkat

        Boom goes any notion of Maya not being a troll.

        DUDE, you blew it.

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      • on April 9, 2012 at 5:36 pm Lara

        If you want to comment, go ahead. You aren’t hurting anyone.

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      • on April 9, 2012 at 5:41 pm Maya

        Yes, I’m hurting myself. I don’t want to do that anymore but I can’t stop.

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      • on April 9, 2012 at 5:52 pm Flahute

        Just imagine how addicted you would get to being treated like a rag doll and jackhammered properly.

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 1:22 am King A (Matthew King)

        Maya: Delete your bookmark. Give yourself two weeks off. Buy a nice, loose sun dress and go for a walk. Feel the warmth on your face, let the breeze wick the sweat from your swampy inner thighs. It’s springtime. There’s plenty to do.

        Once you’re high and dry, you’ll be surprised at how waterlogged you had become without realizing it.

        Then come back and contemplate the epic female silliness of the confession: “I would prefer if you just stop writing this blog – this is the only way that will make me stop reading it.”

        You are wine turning into vinegar.

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 11:22 am Anonymous

        Love to see you back.
        Please stop lurking, and get back to us with your prose as soon as as you can.

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      • on April 11, 2012 at 11:51 am King A (Matthew King)

        I haven’t been lurking.

        Anonymous encouragement is contradictory and damn near an oxymoron. At least develop a pseudonym for accountability’s sake.

        And adopt your real name as quickly (if cautiously) as you can. Commenter A.B. Dada is your model, though he is a little bit on the reckless side when it comes to securing one’s online identity on a wide-open, public, and permanent platform.

        Matt

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    • on April 9, 2012 at 11:16 pm Spiralina

      This “Maya” performance art has taken a turn from pathetic into comical. Well played.

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 10:25 am itsme

        i guess it just happened.

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    • on April 10, 2012 at 10:24 am itsme

      pretending to be a child….no wonder you only attract the child molestor type of guys.

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  8. on April 9, 2012 at 4:41 pm GeishaKate

    “GIRL: [in an elevator] “Could you press 4?”

    This is just like in the movies!”

    LOL

    GIRL: A horror movie?

    [heartiste: GUY: If that’s your thing.]

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    • on April 9, 2012 at 5:37 pm GeishaKate

      I don’t have a thing.

      [heartiste: that’s a relief.]

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      • on April 9, 2012 at 5:51 pm GeishaKate

        *decides its a good time to check her phone*

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      • on April 9, 2012 at 6:58 pm Anonymous

        Gay.

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      • on April 9, 2012 at 8:19 pm Dude Jr.

        *punches you in the face*

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 8:13 am GeishaKate

        Excuse me, but the elevator hasn’t made any stops, so kindly hold your peace. If heartiste chooses to continue the demonstration, you might learn something.

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 8:31 pm YB

        *gets her number*

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 1:35 am King A (Matthew King)

        pwned. Geisha takes this round. You’d better have some physical assets to back up your sass, though. Otherwise it’s simple cuntery.

        Quips and witticisms are sprinkles on the cupcake. If you have a solid package together, you can make a head-nod seem like poetry.

        But rendered as screenplay dialogue here, it all seems too cute by half. We are not living in a stichomythiac Cary Grant-Grace Kelly movie.

        *decides its a good time to check her phone* = TKO

        [heartiste: what we have here, is…. a failure to appreciate.]

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 12:25 pm GeishaKate

        “*decides its a good time to check her phone* = TKO”

        Actually, this was “girl” ceding conversation back to “guy” as you can see dialogue started by “girl” quickly goes nowhere. Also a simple test to see whether “guy” is truly interested or just making chit chat. Could also be a state break.

        Just because you are not living in a Cary Grant/Grace Kelly movie doesn’t mean I’m not 😉 And how the heck did you get in this elevator?

        [heartiste: i got ya, gk. “king a”, perhaps unsurprisingly, did not. my teachings, like the parable of the sower, are not taking root in king a’s hardscrabble soil.]

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 12:59 pm King A (Matthew King)

        Like I said, on the page it comes off as try-hard. The real communication is in the intonations and inflections.

        When you inspire onlookers to fantasize about “*punch[ing] you in the face*” that is lady FTW. And also very rare. The Grant-Kelly banter breakdown is usually the vapid woman’s fault. (And you can’t blame her, her job is to look pretty not talk pretty.) This seemed like one of those unusual instances where the girl came out on top, and it should be noted, like spotting an endangered bird.

        Even more rare: the combination of quick wits required to do this in real time, rather than in spaced-out comment posts.

        Tell us about the last time you had one of these temperature-raising staccato exchanges IRL. That will go a long way to helping us understand just how much you really are “living in a Cary Grant/Grace Kelly movie.” I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt.

        Matt

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 1:19 pm GeishaKate

        Generally, in real time and real life I end up laughing too hard to talk 🙂 I’ll eventually crack, much to the amusement of the person I’m with.

        FTW? No, Heartiste was just going easy on me 🙂

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 1:22 pm Maya

        Boring … Could you just stop commenting on this blog?

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      • on April 11, 2012 at 10:44 am King A (Matthew King)

        Geisha: the suck-uppery is unbecoming, even in a woman. There is an art to flattery, and the number one rule is be subtle/indirect. Otherwise you inspire the thought of ulterior motives and manipulation. Are you a “geisha” or aren’t you?

        (Leave the gushing to Maya, who alternates from ecstatic to suicidal like the best of the bipolars … and we get a comment-post for every lurch along her neurotic rollercoaster. What a mess.)

        “Generally, in real time and real life I end up laughing too hard to talk 🙂 I’ll eventually crack, much to the amusement of the person I’m with.”

        That’s what I mean. Anybody who doesn’t laugh IRL (or doesn’t show the twinkle in his eye) at an attempt to effect surreal movie-dialogue is preposterous. And to see a woman neutralize it with real wit like you did is even more laugh-inducing. Most of the time IRL the man has to be witty enough for both, especially with young girls. Your creativity leads me to believe you are an older woman: maturing ladies are forced to develop personality in the attempt to offset declining assets.

        Matt

        [heartiste: here’s lookin at you, king a.]

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      • on April 11, 2012 at 12:44 pm GeishaKate

        Its not my fault I have a personality. I was held at gunpoint. (You really shouldn’t encourage me:))

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      • on April 25, 2012 at 1:09 pm King A (Matthew King)

        Heartiste wrote:

        i got ya, gk. “king a”, perhaps unsurprisingly, did not. my teachings, like the parable of the sower, are not taking root in king a’s hardscrabble soil.

        “As for the seed that fell among thorns, they are the ones who have heard, but as they go along, they are choked by the anxieties and riches and pleasures of life, and they fail to produce mature fruit.” — Luke 8:14

        If you had talent for exegesis, you might actually make some use of this parable. It doesn’t condemn you for your (t)horniness so much as it demonstrates the generosity of the sower. He knows fruit will not grow among the obstinate and sour minded, and yet he bestows on you the germ of wisdom anyway.

        You don’t have “teachings.” You have observations. If you want to truly teach, rebbe, you have to become much more agnostic (i.e., less thorny) than you already are. Wisdom can’t grow where there are already weeds, even pretty weeds, the kind that have so completely captured your attention.

        Matt

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    • on April 10, 2012 at 5:56 pm chi-town

      I’d have to go with: “Looks like a mystery to me”.

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 6:36 pm GeishaKate

        🙂

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      • on April 11, 2012 at 11:00 am King A (Matthew King)

        Perfect.

        All of the Heartiste lines in this case were functional placeholders — they keep the scene together while allowing the vibe to develop. Practical but not scintillating. But all of the responses were truly clever retorts that hed their own, even on the page. Well done.

        That’s not a commentary on Heartiste in general, sycophants. His skill is patent and not really up for discussion. It is a commentary on the relative effectiveness of this particular example. Which is the point of trial, error, and roleplay. What good are toadies who have forgotten the utility of criticism?

        I recall your host and master acknowledging that blogs like these are “the world’s largest trial and error experiment ever performed.” You reduce mediocrity by calling it out. If you’re genuinely interested in improvement, you welcome criticism.

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  9. on April 9, 2012 at 4:45 pm St

    lol, what an excellent post

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  10. on April 9, 2012 at 4:48 pm whorefinder

    For the autistic tards out there, here are some BAD flirty lines:

    Girl: Hi, how are—
    You: I WILL RAPE YOU.

    Girl: Who did you vote—-
    You: Let me give you a 15-minute harrangue on tax policy. THEN I WILL RAPE YOU.

    Girl: Could pass me the–
    You: RAPE!

    Girl: Excuse—
    You: RAPE RAPE RAPE HERPES RAPE!

    Got it? The rule is:

    NEVER INTERRUPT HER OPENING LINE, BITCHES!

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    • on April 9, 2012 at 11:12 pm YaReally

      I’ve used one of those.

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 11:26 am Maya

        Sure you did.

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 4:14 pm YaReally

        lol the guys at RSD have a Rape Van and routinely tell girls to kill themselves. I’ve opened by telling girls im going to give them aids from fucking them in the ass.

        You can get away with a lot when you know what you’re doing. This stuff isn’t for noobs

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      • on April 14, 2012 at 4:16 pm sup

        i tried this, opened with “hey fucker”, girl responded “whaddup faggot”. dropped the aids line, she said ‘sure, but you’d get crabs and gonorrhoea. hope that’s alright’

        seems like a good response but i was in way over my head. said ‘that’s disgusting’ and reverted to my regular game. as soon as i lost that consistency we lost the vibe. want to try it again tho, definitely pushes some boundaries

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    • on April 10, 2012 at 1:39 am King A (Matthew King)

      “BAD flirty lines” or … how women who are used to getting hit on interpret forced repartee

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    • on April 10, 2012 at 10:56 am Firepower

      Other bad, bad, flirty lines:
      “I’m from the SPLC and I dig your blog – the beard’s kickass, too.”

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  11. on April 9, 2012 at 4:53 pm Jesus

    cool as fuck. right mindset level, unlocked. the last one is good too, if you’ve seen attraction in her eyes and deliver it perfectly.

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  12. on April 9, 2012 at 4:57 pm askjoe

    thanks, I’ve instinctually felt the need to give straight answers to girls I’ve found attractive and feeling the loving feeling dwindle away whereas dismissive smart ass remarks seem to always win. Must focus on quippage. Or better yet, you know, the devilish rogue you love in the movies almost always gives bullshit answers to questions. So learn from them.

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  13. on April 9, 2012 at 5:11 pm Days of Broken Arrows

    I have a hard time these days flirting with American women, because the goal is that you end up with an American woman.

    I do have a great line for foreign women, which Eastern European women seem to especially be amused by:

    Her: Can you tell me is zees ze line?
    Me: Sure, if you stop faking that accent.

    [heartiste: that’s pretty good.]

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    • on April 9, 2012 at 8:41 pm V

      “Me: Sure, if you stop faking that accent.”
      I’m definately going to use this…hehe…

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    • on April 9, 2012 at 11:16 pm YaReally

      In Europe say:

      “ya well, I’ve found that European girls are prettier than American girls. But American girls are better in bed.”

      I use that when I travel anywhere. The type of girls you’re talking to are the prettier ones and the type of girls they hate are the better in bed ones, it has a horrible effect if you fuck up and say it the other way around. The reasons should be obvious to anyone reading this blog.

      The hamster wheel shoots sparks with this bit lol it’s hilarious and really easy to lead the conversation into.

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 11:13 am Maya

        Actually, girls don’t really hate girls who are said to be “good in bed”. We feel sorry for them.

        “ya well, I’ve found that European girls are prettier than American girls. But American girls are better in bed.”

        Talking about girl’s beauty the first time you meet her = omega.
        Talking about which girls are good in bed = disrespectful and misogynistic. Keep this for yourself.

        In conclusion, your line can’t work on anyone.

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 1:24 pm Anonymous

        I’ll save you the reply, YR.

        Maya, go out and try to pick up chicks.

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 2:54 pm Maya

        I’m fantastic at picking up chicks. And I’m getting better and better. I could be a lesbian if I wanted.

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 4:50 pm itsme

        you should switch yourself back into dyke mode. you’ll be more successful.

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 4:20 pm YaReally

        lol I’m still pretty sure maya is just a dude trolling. At least the women posting here help demonstrate the “don’t listen to women about how to pick up women” rule.

        Love the shit out of women but every game community gets inefficient and starts going downhill as more and more women think they’re special unique self-aware snowflakes who have something to offer about this topic as they muddle the conversations and force people to stress “please don’t listen to her advice” and give noobs hope to cling onto “see??? A girl SAID she likes nice guys so screw this game stuff!!!”

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 5:23 pm itsme

        remember, though, that all comments are held in moderation until heartsie lets them through. he wants us to see those inane comments.

        just imagine the comments that didn’t make it through…

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 6:16 pm chi-town

        Sure you can.

        “its a beautiful thing to see someone who can be attractive with just a good personality”.

        See, used it in a sentence.

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 8:37 pm Lololblackguy

        Lol Maya you are dumb. ‘american chicks are better In bed’ triggers both Preselection from other women, gets her thinking of him sexually, and sparks the competition in her. Also by saying European girls are more attractive, he’s qualified her indirectly, but also direct game works better on European chicks. Suck my dick Maya. Lol.

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      • on April 11, 2012 at 11:16 am Maya

        No wonder you’re single …

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 3:48 pm Lara

        I thought being pretty was the key to being good in bed.

        [heartiste: it’s necessary but not sufficient. although i would argue the necessary part is 90% of it. however, when you have a lot of experience with hot babes, you tend to demand more in terms of bedroom… flexibility.]

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 5:14 pm Anon

        I don’t require a lot.
        A half decent blowjob, an ability to assume a correct doggy position (lower da fuckin back), and an ability to ride the dick up and down and not simply back and forth (apparently good for the clit but it hurts my f’ing pubic bone). That’s all it takes for a woman to be labeled good in bed.

        The rest is up to me. I even assume the responsibility for her “mood” and her level of sexual abandon. Most women can become savages if they are correctly turned on.

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  14. on April 9, 2012 at 5:20 pm JonBrom

    Any compliment given to you by a gal should be answered thusly:

    “Oh, you’re just saying that because it’s true!”

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    • on April 10, 2012 at 1:58 pm V

      “I love your hat [or w/e]”
      “You’re only saying that because I’M wearing it.”

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 2:47 pm askjoe

        or I say, the secret is being really good looking.

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      • on April 12, 2012 at 3:15 pm V

        Nice. You could use “You’re only saying that because I’M wearing it,” and then follow up with “the secret is being really good looking.” Once you get started, it’s nice to be able to keep it going.

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  15. on April 9, 2012 at 5:30 pm Anonymous2

    “Women love a man who is better than them, but they will accept as a substitute a man who simply thinks he is better than them.”

    Backwards! Women love a man who thinks is better than they, but will settle for a man who actually is!

    [heartiste: you may have a point there.]

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    • on April 9, 2012 at 10:27 pm Anonymous

      No, I disagree. Women do choose those who are better than them, but at certani criteria. “Better than her” doesn’t mean being able to work a job.

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  16. on April 9, 2012 at 5:31 pm GFP

    These are all great, but I think mostly girls you hardly know yet. If you are on a date (where girls expect you to answer some biographical questions), the mildness of these responses will sometimes get an eye roll instead of the “he’s clever” smirk that you want. This is not to say that you should actually answer the question, but flirting is more common on a date, so you need to be even more shocking to what she expected.

    For example, instead of “Hard drug use”, I sometimes say “Hookers and blow.”

    GIRL: Hey! What have you been up to lately?
    YOU: Hookers and blow

    GIRL: What are your plans for later?
    YOU: Hookers and blow

    GIRL: What do you like to do for fun?
    YOU: Hookers and blow

    Not sure this exact one would work for everyone. I am a pretty laid back guy, so it seems absurd and shocking to anyone that has known me for longer than 5 minutes.

    [heartiste: yes, you should be more hardcore — aka assholish — with girls you are dating and with younger girls. for girls you just met, or in venues where expressive flirting would be out of place, a toned down version is better.]

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    • on April 9, 2012 at 7:08 pm James

      Too many words. I’m a big fan of the silent approach: whenever she says anything just whip out your cock.

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 3:47 pm Lara

        That will not work unless she is desperate. We like wit and charm.

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 4:52 pm itsme

        We like wit and charm

        and dominance and power. and not necessarily in that order.

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  17. on April 9, 2012 at 5:34 pm (r)Evoluzione

    Over a long period of time, with this method, one can create a lot of sexual tension with women in your social circle, or, more dangerously, in your workplace.

    This sloooow burn is fantastic long game. Also, doing it to your girl’s friends in your girl’s presence is a good way to initiate threesomes.

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  18. on April 9, 2012 at 5:43 pm Big T

    My fav’s

    “what do you do for a living? ”
    I do a bit of this and that. (kills it every tine)

    “my names sarah”
    oh great not another sarah

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  19. on April 9, 2012 at 5:49 pm Flahute

    GIRL: “How are you?”
    Irresistible.

    Stealing that one.
    It’s usually a dramatic “Hi! how ARE you?”

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  20. on April 9, 2012 at 5:50 pm Lara

    I once had a man tell me I needed to move my car by saying, “You’re cute, but you’re still in the way.”

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    • on April 9, 2012 at 7:59 pm Rex

      Moral: Everyone tells some white lies once and a while.

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    • on April 9, 2012 at 11:20 pm Anon

      And how did that make you feel?

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 3:46 pm Lara

        Good. I like to be called cute.

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    • on April 9, 2012 at 11:21 pm YaReally

      On really hot girls who do stupid shit (butt in line, be loud and obnoxious, be rude to a friend, etc) I’ve said “just because you’re hot doesn’t mean you get to be a bitch.”

      Only builds attraction on really hot girls. Pisses off average and below girls. …a lot lol

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 11:23 am Maya

        Telling a girl that she’s hot doesn’t work, sorry …

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 4:53 pm itsme

        it doesn’t work when she knows it’s not true.

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      • on April 11, 2012 at 11:14 am Maya

        You’re right. But it doesn’t work very well even when she knows she’s shot.

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      • on April 11, 2012 at 11:37 am itsme

        wrong. it works very well when the girl actually IS hot, but it needs to be delivered in just the right way. ‘just because you’re hot doesn’t mean you get to be a bitch’ is a nuclear neg.

        but please, don’t let our real experiences with women keep you from dispensing your brown nuggets of dating advice maya.

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      • on April 16, 2012 at 1:23 am Anonymous

        Or you could say: “I see you flunked out of charm school”.

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  21. on April 9, 2012 at 5:51 pm DarkByke

    Flipping the logical switch off is quite hard to do.

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    • on April 9, 2012 at 6:03 pm (r)Evoluzione

      I thought so too. I was the spergy kid in the class who nearly aced the SAT, but couldn’t get sarcasm. I was always the straight man, always taking things literally.

      But a little practice, and I got good at not only identifying the quick-witted sarcasm, but dishing it out. Sometimes the more subtle the better.

      A relative who hadn’t seen me in years quipped, “Wow, when did you become charming?” upon seeing me in action. As a natural introvert, it wasn’t particularly quick, but it’s been one of the more rewarding pursuits of my life.

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      • on April 9, 2012 at 11:23 pm YaReally

        Props dude. A lot of people think it’s something that can’t be learned. It takes work but if it’s important to you it can be done. Glad you proved those people wrong.

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 7:58 am Mexican Pete

        “As a natural introvert, it wasn’t particularly quick, but it’s been one of the more rewarding pursuits of my life.”

        That’s a very important point that most folks who take up Game fail to realise: Patience is required, and tons of practice.

        In effect, you’re rebuilding 20-, 30-, 40+ years of accumulated personality.

        Roosh and Mystery, to their credit, stress this in their books. . However, the folks who get suckered into boot-camps aren’t told this

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 7:48 pm YaReally

        ya that’s the biggest problem with the industry. Even when instructors stress that it’ll take a while people hit up a bootcamp thinking 3 days of new thinking will unwire 20+ years of old thinking.

        Early on when PUA stuff was still pretty knew we all kind of understood that this was a years-long progress. Some guys wouldn’t even get laid for the first year or two, but they’d have a bunch of little victories (handling a social situation that would’ve stumped them before, keeping a hot girl’s attention for a couple hours, getting phone numbers, making new friends, etc.) and would be happy as fuck with that and just trusted that over time they would internalize this stuff and their lives would improve.

        I started out as a super shy introvert myself. It took a ton of work to get to where I am now so I have a lot of respect for anyone who sticks to it like this guy. Most people’s excuses for why game doesn’t work “for them” or why they can’t do what we’ve done is just complete bullshit victim mentality.

        “You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake.” and all that.

        [heartiste: i agree, a lot of guys have unreasonable expectations about game. if you aren’t a natural extrovert it’s gonna be much harder to acquire game skills and apply them successfully. it’s like a guy who has no musical talent thinking he can pick up a guitar and just start shredding in a week. won’t happen. but if he practices every day for a year, he’ll be able to play decently enough to impress chicks.]

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  22. on April 9, 2012 at 6:05 pm Greg Eliot

    “So, what’s your type?”

    “A busty blonde who runs a liquor store… but in a pinch, I’ll take any two out of three.”

    And then pinch her, regardless.

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  23. on April 9, 2012 at 6:30 pm zaee

    I think that is basically how I talk to women most of the time, especially my flatmates. Playful fake arguments are great too.

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  24. on April 9, 2012 at 7:04 pm Guardial

    “In accordance with the prophecy” is a good response to idle chit-chat. You’re supposed to add it to the end of any fortune cookie fortunes, but it can add romance to an otherwise banal conversation.

    “You’re late.” “In accordance with the prophecy.”
    “Nice weather.” “In accordance with the prophecy.”
    “More overtime.” “In accordance with the prophecy.”

    And XKCD.com recommends So, it has come to this.

    Protip: If you’re not sure what to say, try “So it has come to this” – It creates instant dramatic tension and is a valid observation in literally any situation.

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    • on April 9, 2012 at 11:39 pm Dan Fletcher

      No.

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 11:12 am Ciox

        No indeed.

        [heartiste: i’d have to third this no. while the lines are kind of funny, they are the type of humor that appeals to men but not at all to women.]

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 3:02 pm itsme

        agreed. ‘in accordance with the prophecy’ might work on a geeky gamer grrrl, but not on a normal girl.

        ‘so, it has come to this’ – sounds like something a mildly butthurt james bond villain would say.

        these lines aren’t very good because they’re not flirty. there are no sexual undertones, no cocky/funniness, no nothing.

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 5:32 pm askjoe

        damn, that’s like something a d&d nerd on snl would say. That’s very ren faire. You’d be better off with “so it begins”

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    • on April 10, 2012 at 7:30 pm Student

      this is straight up DarkTriumvir game.

      http://darktriumvirate.wordpress.com/

      heh

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  25. on April 9, 2012 at 7:16 pm Matador

    This stuff is good but I’m useless at remembering canned material, so I won’t even try.

    It’s all about the attitude, and being in “The Zone” (https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2008/01/13/best-feeling-in-the-world/). Sometimes, flirts and teases and stuff like that can come out naturally, even though I don’t consider myself particularly witty in a neutral state.

    But I’ll keep in mind the “thanks” reply about the weather. lolz
    And that one in the elevator too…
    … Shit, all of them are worth remembering bro.

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    • on April 10, 2012 at 3:56 am Anonymous

      Outside of the US, many comments like “nice weather” can be answered along the lines of “Thanks, I put a call into Obama and he ordered the Air Force to seed the clouds” or whatever.

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  26. on April 9, 2012 at 7:31 pm V

    “Training yourself to parry female small talk with unexpected flirtatious jousts is, at the least, great for honing your game, even when it doesn’t lead to a bang.”

    Even when it doesn’t lead to a bang! BINGO. This is called practice. A great way to develop your game if you are just starting out is to make your goal simply to practice instead of hoping to get laid every time. This creates an outcome independent mindset in which every single positive reaction is a success, rather than an eventual failure if it doesn’t get you laid. Each success cumulatively builds confidence.

    This is what flirty bartenders or waitresses are perfect for. Practice. They will often flirt even if they are not interested, especially if you make it fun. Serious answers to questions are ‘boring’. Unexpected, unpredictable, funny answers are fun. Think of the opposite to the automatic answer to their questions and deliver it with a roguish grin.

    “How was your dinner?”
    “Terrible, I’m never coming back to this place.”

    “Would you like me to bring you your check?”
    “No thanks, you can keep it.”

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  27. on April 9, 2012 at 7:47 pm Shawn

    Good flirt guide: http://www.sirc.org/publik/flirt.html

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    • on April 9, 2012 at 11:17 pm Anon

      That’s a guide for complete beta aspies who grew up alone in a jungle.

      Concrete flirting examples would be more helpful for the average reader.

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  28. on April 9, 2012 at 7:47 pm Serenety

    Her – where are you going/what are you doing

    Me – (to do) man stuff – repeat as necessary
    Me – taking care of business – or just tcb as they start to hear it more

    my newish alternate

    Me – managing my portfolio

    My other alternate is to just refer to them by their surname or nationality in conversation/text/email as in

    hey jones/smith/new zealand/england etc

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    • on April 10, 2012 at 4:05 am Anonymous

      It gets their hamsters spinning when they see in your phone that you’ve called them something other than their name

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    • on April 10, 2012 at 1:57 pm (r)Evoluzione

      “Where are you going?”

      My dad always used to say “To see a man about a horse.” I loved that as a kid. If an 8 year old digs it, hamsters will eat it up.

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 4:03 pm hesaidhe

        My dad would say “to drop the kiddies at the pool” whether or not he was on his way to the bathroom. His whereabouts were none of our business – but ours were his.

        @Anonymous/Serenety: So true about using a name other than a first name via text or emails. I have tread a few 360s around this ;]

        It can work on a man that a woman wants to keep interested as well. I throw “Sir” in front of a man’s name or whatever nickname has evolved from our interaction as a display of playful respect for his time.

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 7:42 pm Serenety

        Another alternate I use from time to time as the mood strikes

        throw in “young” before their name/surname/nickname no matter how old they are

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  29. on April 9, 2012 at 8:11 pm dave

    Individual conversational examples like these aren’t just useful for their illustration of this broader principle of flirting. The individual examples like these are useful for putting into an open source spaced repetition software (SRS) program like Anki:

    http://ankisrs.net/

    If you’re not familiar with the spacing effect and the practice of spaced repetition that takes advantage of it, you can check out this article:

    http://www.gwern.net/Spaced%20repetition

    I’ll give a ridiculously short summary. If it sounds too good to be true…then check out the article. Essentially, humans forget in a remarkably predictable fashion, and we have learned how to counteract our natural propensity to forget with 90-95% accuracy over the long-term.

    An SRS like Anki is essentially a digital flashcard program on steroids. It tracks each individual card using scientifically proven algorithms. You review things more often earlier on, and then less often later after the memories have been strengthened. (e.g. you would review a card the day you put it in, the next day, a few days later, a week or two later, then a month later, then several months later, and so on.) It is incredibly efficient as far as time is concerned, and, as long as you do your daily reviews, you will have 90-95% recall accuracy for whatever you put into your deck.

    To the broader point we are getting. With an SRS deck, you could essentially create prosthetic alpha/charisma. You could make literally hundreds or thousands of cards with a girl’s banal statement on the front side, and the flirty response on the other side.

    Here’s a card I made from Mad Men:

    Random Dude who could be courting Don’s mistress: what do you do for a living?

    Don Draper: I blow up bridges.

    You could also make cards to quiz yourself on important attitudes, logistical techniques, or anything else seduction related. If you can’t see yourself saying these lines in real-life situation, then simply repeating them in your SRS program will increase the likelihood of you considering them a viable option in day-to-day contexts.

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    • on April 9, 2012 at 8:18 pm dave

      Another relevant card I made from Mad Men for those who are interested.

      Front: what do women want?

      Back: for you to know better than to ask (alternate: any excuse to get closer)

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    • on April 9, 2012 at 10:40 pm Harland

      So, make a shared deck already.

      Anki is only useful for rote memorization. I use it daily for Chinese. I’m not sure how useful it is for PUA.

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 8:51 am dave

        Heartiste often talks about those with encyclopedic knowledge of “game concepts.” This is merely a practical and accessible way of achieving that.

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    • on April 9, 2012 at 11:59 pm Ouch

      thanks for the anki tip Dave

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    • on April 10, 2012 at 5:18 am H T

      I’ve used Anki but only for languages.. I question how effective this would really be, but you should definitely share your deck!!

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      • on April 15, 2012 at 1:13 pm dave

        If you just drop responses/items into your SRS deck and review them normally, there is a chance that a significant portion of your responses/items won’t live to see the light of day due to their rapid maturing in Anki.

        My solution is to purposely fail such cards on a daily basis for a week or several after adding them. This increases the likelihood that I’ll try it for real at least once. If you don’t try it at least once in a real situation and the card matures…you might never try it. If you try it at least once though…it becomes part of your real-time interaction arsenal.

        After the purposely failing cards phase you can let it mature, but then don’t be afraid to randomly fail them again once in a while if you want to increase your likelihood of using them.

        Another option is to have all such cards tagged, and then you can use the cram function and run through the list before or even at a party on a phone or ipod. Active production of such flashcards, I have found, sometimes puts me in a chatty mood.

        I ambitiously wanted to go through and create an index of Heartiste’s archive of posts in SRS form…but I’m lazy and don’t have the time. Someone should totally do it and email the list of SRS items to him though…it would be an interesting way for him to monetize his content.

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  30. on April 9, 2012 at 8:31 pm Antifeminist One

    O/T: Five minutes of alpha is worth how much?

    http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/53879608-78/police-inmate-south-woman.html.csp

    One woman was stabbed in the neck late Sunday at a South Salt Lake apartment complex after police allege she and another woman decided to fight over which of them should date a jail inmate.

    Stay classy, ladies.

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    • on April 11, 2012 at 12:40 pm P Ray

      Even better
      http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1726827/posts
      23 girls brawl over handsome boy
      Ananova ^ | October 27, 2006 | Staff

      Posted on 10/27/2006 11:22:17 PM by MadIvan

      Police were called in Bulg
      aria after a mass fight broke out between 23 teenage girls over a handsome male student.

      The girls, aged between 15 and 18, used brass knuckles, chains and beer bottles to fight over the lad whose name was not revealed.

      The girls, from the Bulgarian capital Sofia, agreed to fight it out and skipped school to meet up in a local playground in the Gorublyane district of the city.

      Several girls suffered minor injuries and dozens of passers-by reportedly witnessed the incident.

      But the alarm wasn’t raised until after the fight when a father of one of the injured girls called the police.

      (The comments are funny too):

      I wonder what the lad’s reaction was. Also, the winner, likely to be scarred and bruised, probably wasn’t particularly fetching afterwards.

      Regards, Ivan

      Oh yeah, any woman willing to use brass knuckles, chains, and broken bottles sounds like a winner even before the fight.

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      • on April 11, 2012 at 8:02 pm Antifeminist One

        .. I’m lost for words. Wow.

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  31. on April 9, 2012 at 9:22 pm Bigfoot

    My main weakness is still flirting, I’m able to do it sometimes but its off and on.

    Perhaps some comedy books would be great for me?

    Any suggestions on books that will help people develop flirting plus the ability to be funny.

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    • on April 9, 2012 at 11:18 pm James

      Chat with people online as practice. Helped me a lot.

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  32. on April 9, 2012 at 9:52 pm Milton

    “I’ll see more of you later!”

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  33. on April 10, 2012 at 1:15 am anon

    I like these, and they seem fun to deliver as well.

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  34. on April 10, 2012 at 1:17 am LionSoul

    Grade A advice.

    I use it in my LTRs during certain situations to keep things mellow and lighthearted–sometimes more than that if I’m in the mood.

    Non-chalant flirting helps maintain a cool and collected leadership role.

    Pranks are golden, as well. Nothing beats putting her blackberry in a ziplock bag and then freezing it over night (thank YouTube for that idea).

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    • on April 10, 2012 at 12:27 pm ld

      As ever heart is the dad/older brother I never had.cheers!

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  35. on April 10, 2012 at 2:10 am King A (Matthew King)

    When is the new offshore website reboot coming out? Southern Poverty Law Center is hot on your case. (They don’t publicly target the really bad sites for fear of promoting them.) Reward your loyal readership.

    Oh, and write the book already. You can self-publish on Kindle and charge a premium. Give Fifty Shades of Gey a run for its money. If E.L. James could mass-moisten the underserved (gigantic) niche of dried-out fishwives too embarrassed to face their nature with a word-of-mouth hanky-spanky potboiler, just think of the untapped reserves of eager betas still too timid to slap down How To Get Laid on the bookstore counter with the cute check-out clerk. E-books are the ultimate brown paper wrapping.

    Leverage your brand already. Put some testicular fortitude behind your cause and promote it aggressively. You need a business manager. Or an agent. Five years now? The glow doesn’t last forever. Capitalize, capitalist.

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    • on April 10, 2012 at 1:55 pm (r)Evoluzione

      For once I agree with King A, mostly. This blog has legs & serious momentum. Keep it rolling, and it could go for decades. And yeah, some monetization never hurts.

      Although I’m not sure the world is ready for something bigger, better, badder than existing game books. It would be NYT best seller, invite media frenzy, white hot lights of publicity, media scrutiny, etc. Sometimes relative anonymity is beyond financial measure.

      I suspect that the wealthier patrons of this site already reward the host with gifts. I plan to at some point when my business goes positive.

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      • on April 11, 2012 at 11:37 am King A (Matthew King)

        The patronage is only incidental. “Revoluzione” have to be funded, but ideas are the true fuel of the movement. Heartiste is the best articulator you have, as long as he doesn’t stray too much into his pseudoscientific hobbyhorses and keeps his poetic focus on observation/experience.

        At some point you have to be ready for the scrutiny, and to take your lumps. Derbyshire is an excellent example of accidental courage and bad timing. A little bit of forethought, preparation, and caution can gird you for the “white hot lights.” Derbyshire stumbled into his moment because he has always been too arrogant to be disciplined or deliberate. Our webhost here has been the opposite: circumspect and purposeful. He just needs to kick his goals up to the next level. Half a decade in one paradigm is too long, particularly in the fleeting internet culture.

        Truth is dynamite. You can blast mountains with it to clear a path, you can annihilate enemies in your way … or you can blow yourself to kingdom come if you are sloppy like “The Derb.” What a careless fool! Truthtelling is at least as much about preparing one’s audience to hear as it is being blunt.

        You can applaud the truth of what Derbyshire said while castigating his premature recklessness for nearly suffocating the movement in the cradle with the “media frenzy [and] scrutiny” you mention. Be smart, fools! You’ve been entrusted with caretaking the truth, which has many enemies. Whether he did it strategically or earnestly, Lowry was absolutely right to swiftly purge. He did us all lovers of truth (philalethists) a favor.

        Though it may be too late. Look at how the enemy is spinning it:

        Do you think you’re more racist than Rich Lowry, or the other NR writers? I found your honesty in the Taki’s Magazine article almost refreshing—these are the same concepts that plenty of NR articles tiptoe around, you just said it outright.

        And Derbyshire colludes with the spin out of pique (or maybe it’s the chemo). He agrees we on the right are secretly racist, all but selling us out on the one cultural crime that keeps us marginalized in the ghetto, rather than taken seriously. By the left’s standards, we are racist. But we will never properly neutralize their Orwellian persecutions by indirectly acknowledging their standards to make ourselves feel better, as that miscegenating, limey atheist math-dork just did. Because he was caught off guard.

        So keep your guard, and tell the truth wisely. Or you’ll be bumfuzzled and bemused by their carrot-and-stick methods when you find yourselves in their interrogation room: You are evil, but we will punish you less if you tactically agree with the characterization of your former brethren’s evil. They will find your treachery “almost refreshing.”

        Truthtelling has become “racist” (the modern synonym of evil) because we are sloppy cowards about our dissemination of it. You don’t ask someone who has lived at night all his life to stare directly into a sunrise.

        Matt

        [heartiste: derb should have replied “false premise. not racism. realism.” frame to his advantage.]

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      • on April 12, 2012 at 2:12 pm attractionreaction

        Unamusement Park nailed it: “Is it true?”

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    • on April 11, 2012 at 12:44 pm P Ray

      E.L.James is a woman.
      http://starcasm.net/archives/150315

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  36. on April 10, 2012 at 3:52 am Anonymous

    In response to “what?” spoken with the feigned indignation they love so much, I’ll often respond, “I was just saying how nice you look today.” Delivered with a smirk of course.

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  37. on April 10, 2012 at 4:22 am walawala

    Whenever I’m in a buffet line and some cutie is in front of me….this works to get things started:

    Me: save some for me…

    Her: What? Looks at her plate….laughs…
    xxxx

    If a girl is short and says “Wow, you’re tall”

    Me: Yah, what happened to you? Your parents didnt’ feed you?

    Her: Nooooooooooo my parents fed me!

    Me; Clearly not enough….

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    • on April 10, 2012 at 7:44 pm Lara

      I like the buffet line quip, that’s good.

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  38. on April 10, 2012 at 5:17 am YaReally

    Totally unrelated to this post:

    Chip-eating man is my vote for alpha of the month! lol

    That’s frame control in action. If your frame (“nah, no more physical fighting today guys”) is stronger than the frame of the people around you (“we’re crazy and ninja kicking each other hiya!!!!”), other people fall into your frame. He doesn’t even stare them down or tell them to knock it off he’s just like “nahhhh…chomp chomp chomp”. He would’ve gotten a different reaction if he jumped in like a superhero fists raised ready to beat someone up staring them down and swearing at them. But it’s like it’s so completely not in his reality that the kicking contest could continue or escalate that he doesn’t even bother stopping eating his chips.

    A lot of people would escalate this situation into something serious if they got involved (even by accident). This is part of why the guys who are like “my MMA buddy would kill you with his BJJ move in 2 seconds flat if you dared say THAT to him or his girl!!!!!!11111” should get out and put themselves in these situations more if they want to have an opinion on what would/wouldn’t work in a tricky situation.

    I’ve actually used eating and body position to avoid/de-escalate volatile situations myself lol (eating a hot dog or pizza after the bar at last call when it’s time for all the Affliction douches who didn’t get laid to start fights)

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    • on April 10, 2012 at 2:52 pm Rex

      Looked scared to me. Like he was avoiding eye contact. Kept his head down and was looking at the floor, not up.

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 3:07 pm YaReally

        When you make eye contact with someone you start interaction with them. An interaction would lead to escalation. Their hostility would transfer onto him and while he could probably kick their asses he’a not trying to get into the shit he’s just calming it down.

        He’s essentially “invisible” as a person to the two people fighting, it’s like a wall or pillar just came between them, cutting their space enough to snap them out of retard mode.

        The Dog Whisperer does this with aggressive dogs a lot, he’ll enter their territory and turn his back to them and not make eye contact and just “claim the space” with his body language, cutting the dog off with his body. All very calm and assertive (“nah, that’s not happening”) but dominant. If he approached staring the dog down the dog would interpret it as a threat and he’d trigger an attack.

        The guy IS watching in his peripheral for things to escalate, when he looks down at his chips you can tell he’s keeping an eye on things just incase.

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 4:21 pm chi-town

        He was looking at his chips because they were more important. Nobility does not seek eye contact with the wretch. Eye contact is necessary when there is a power struggle. He did not look scared at all.

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 5:51 pm Anon

        What are you, an aspie or something?

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  39. on April 10, 2012 at 6:10 am Rus

    Some of those work, others sound pretty stupid. Different strokes etc I guess.

    As to why more men are not natural flirts, I suspect it has to do with the rather more violent world we used to live in. When all that stands between you and savage, violent men is another, bigger, man, then all you really need to get chicks is to be stronger than the next guy. Flirting optional.

    The society we have created in recent centuries pretty much goes against all our natural instincts. In time people will adapt, unless the barbarians manage to scale the walls before that, but that doesn’t help us now.

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  40. on April 10, 2012 at 7:15 am BD

    Hey, this article ties in nicely to this discussion: http://hbr.org/2011/12/your-use-of-pronouns-reveals-your-personality/ar/1?cm_sp=most_widget-_-hbr_articles-_-Your+Use+of+Pronouns+Reveals+Your+Personality

    The money quote:
    “““““““““““““““““
    Here’s a simple, pronoun-heavy sentence: I don’t think I buy it.

    Ooh. You just revealed something about yourself in that statement. Why did you say “I don’t think I buy it” instead of “I don’t buy it” or even “That’s ridiculous”? Pronouns tell us where people focus their attention. If someone uses the pronoun “I,” it’s a sign of self-focus. Say someone asks “What’s the weather outside?” You could answer “It’s hot” or “I think it’s hot.” The “I think” may seem insignificant, but it’s quite meaningful. It shows you’re more focused on yourself. Depressed people use the word “I” much more often than emotionally stable people. People who are lower in status use “I” much more frequently.
    ““““““““““““““““““
    Summary: Hot girls talking to each other always say, “I this, I that.” Listen to how hot chicks talk to each other, always saying “I think” in response to their friends chit chat about, “I think this or that.” This offers a great opportunity to go up to a group of hot chicks and explain how silly and self centered they are. Can’t wait to try it.

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  41. on April 10, 2012 at 10:43 am Anonymous

    Nice tie/shirt/etc

    “it’s the body”

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  42. on April 10, 2012 at 11:04 am geo

    One of my favorites when positioned at a crowded bar is to create a slight opening for a girl who is trying to move in to get the bartender’s attention. Let her place her order then say: “Hey, my name is X and I’ll be hitting on you while you wait for your drink”. A big soft girl smile almost always ensues. Proceed with good-natured bullshit and as she leaves with her drinks tell her to have a nice life, knowing she’ll be telling her friends about you in a few seconds. Pull this off a few more times and later on, when she and her friends are more tipsy, opportunities abound.

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    • on April 10, 2012 at 7:48 pm Student

      ““Hey, my name is X and I’ll be hitting on you while you wait for your drink” Proceed with good-natured bullshit”

      —————-> “she leaves with her drinks”

      [^hint]

      “tell her to have a nice life,”

      this is the trademark of the post-break up beta

      “knowing she’ll be telling her friends about you in a few seconds.”

      doubtful.

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  43. on April 10, 2012 at 11:35 am Anonymous

    “Pseudoscience is now defined as real science which gives equalists, feminists and PC police the vapors.”

    You can’t take over the world if you allow real science to be discussed publicly.

    Because if you allowed the Christian masses to know what real science says, no Politically Correct myths could ever gain traction

    Thus:

    1. Fake science is allowed and sanctioned through grants.

    2. Real science is hushed up. Best case scenario: No one will even research certain areas of human behavior anymore because it is too dangerous to their career.

    3. People who dare to discuss real science in public will have their careers destroyed.

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    • on April 11, 2012 at 12:33 pm P Ray

      Half the courage is in the experiments, the other half is in publishing the findings (Galileo, paraphrased)

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  44. on April 10, 2012 at 11:39 am chris

    http://www.bakadesuyo.com/what-kind-of-men-are-supermodels-interested-i

    Studies show the most attractive women have the highest standards for men in most every category surveyed — except intelligence.

    http://www.bakadesuyo.com/how-long-does-it-take-to-decide-if-a-person-i

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    • on April 11, 2012 at 12:32 pm P Ray

      That’s cause the intelligent men might be able to lie convincingly to them.
      Or be clever enough to recognise that “most attractive woman” is a transitory title, and past a certain effort there will be diminishing returns.

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  45. on April 10, 2012 at 11:40 am chi-town

    It reminds me so much of the first ape that picked up a stick. Hey, I could use this thing to…and by that I mean a geek that puts wit to to good use.

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  46. on April 10, 2012 at 12:21 pm Gator

    Women are just wired for spontaneity. To their right brained female nature, interacting with shit like this is like the joy men get from solving complex equations or rationally working out the problems of civilization.

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  47. on April 10, 2012 at 12:25 pm Gator

    By the way, weren’t you the one that tweeted the “darker skin correlated to higher testosterone” article? Why would Wussier populations be subject to a more skewed sex ratio?

    The actual explanation for superior minority game is that women only have sex when they want to in those societies, instead of when they need to, as in a society where they can’t provide for themselves.

    [heartiste: present-day wussy populations (hi swedes!) suffered male bottlenecks in ancestral times due to hunting mortality, resulting in a skewed sex ratio that favored men. at least, that’s the theory i’ve read. as for why these long-ago hunting peoples have become so wussy today, well, it’s likely civilization, religion and enforced monogamy have had a domesticating effect.]

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    • on April 10, 2012 at 1:34 pm Anon

      “I consider the absence of widely distributed flirting skills, particularly among northern europeans and asians, to be evidence that for much of mankind’s ancestral past the sex ratio was skewed enough in the typical man’s favor”

      It could also be due to their women’s low testosterone levels.

      Low female testosterone = low female promiscuity = low payoff to male flirting skills.

      Low female promiscuity = less females spreading their legs for alpha seed = less alpha babies = less alpha society = wusses.

      However, wuss societies all have a higher standard of living for males & females. Hello Japan! The problem comes when wuss societies get lazy & import folks to do their work. Hello Sweden!

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    • on April 10, 2012 at 3:22 pm chi-town

      I think its deeper than that. The further north you go , the more the environment is the enemy where cooperation is necessary. Thus once someone is accepted ,they are trusted. Have a look at Scottish Highlander hospitality customs which could result in the protection of even sworn enemy. There is certainly a large Nordic contribution to that stock. Yes they were ferocious to outsiders but once the immune system is deactivated its easily infiltrated. So now that the Nordic races accept all in the clan, they are slow to see hostile elements.

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    • on April 11, 2012 at 10:40 am Gator

      That’s all true, but it doesn’t work as an explanation for poor contemporary flirting skills – it didn’t happen significantly more than in areas where men are raised with game. On the contrary, the sex ratio of the latter group was probably skewed until fuckin’ 1950, so they never would have had to work for it, by that logic.

      Game is a cultural response to powerlessness. That’s why women and children have it in our culture and men give it up when they no longer have to charm resources out of anyone.

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  48. on April 10, 2012 at 12:25 pm Ian Ironwood

    A few of mine:

    G: “You have such beautiful eyes!”
    It’s the Ironwood family curse. They only attract crazy women.

    G: “That’s a really good idea!”
    Only kind I have.

    G: “You know, you’re right!”
    I’m always right. I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.

    G: “How are you feeling?”
    I don’t know. You’d better feel me.

    G: “So, do you live around here?”
    Only when the Malibu mansion is being renovated.

    G: “So, what do you do?”
    I dampen the panties of all the pretty women I meet.
    G: “My panties aren’t wet!”
    (alt 1) I’m sorry, I’ll have to check that myself…
    (alt 2) You just met me. Give it a moment (look at watch) . . . and . . . now!
    (alt 3) I did say
    pretty women…
    (alt 4) You aren’t wearing panties.

    G: “I’d never date a man who wasn’t a feminist!”
    (look her up and down) That explains quite a lot, actually . . .

    G: “I just want to meet a nice guy…”
    No, you don’t. Luckily, you haven’t.

    G: “You’re terrible!”
    Actually, I’m extremely good. But I have really high standards, so you might not know the difference.

    G: “Why do guys have to be like that?”
    Because it’s the only way to get girls like you to fuck us.

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    • on April 10, 2012 at 1:24 pm (r)Evoluzione

      Your Jedi skills are strong, Ironwood. These are gold. They require total confidence and congruence, and develop the same.

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    • on April 11, 2012 at 12:30 pm P Ray

      G: “No woman will like you with your attitude!”
      I don’t need women like you to like me.

      G: “I’ll tell all my friends that you made me mad”
      More people need to know I’m a miracle worker.

      G: “You need to treat me as more than a human being”
      Ritual sacrifice of goats on campus is a felony

      G: “Best friends agree on EVERYTHING”
      Thank goodness I’m not your best friend.

      G: “Let’s just be friends”
      Ahahahahahaha… walks off.

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  49. on April 10, 2012 at 1:16 pm Anonymous

    this blog once had tons of raw energy. now it reads more like cosmopolitan. writing is always good; thoughts are clear as ever…only passion is missing. i take it the editor is in a good place in life. this blog is no longer an outlet, it’s a job now.

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  50. on April 10, 2012 at 1:26 pm Maya

    “… why are smart women more promiscuous than smart men?”

    Smart men are more promiscuous than smart women … Smart women are not promiscuous. But this also depends on how you define ‘smart’.

    [heartiste: you are wrong. you need to acquaint yourself with the latest studies. smart women are not only more promsicuous than smart men, they hold monogamy in less esteem than do dumb women.]

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    • on April 10, 2012 at 1:30 pm Maya

      Post links to those latest studies.

      [heartiste: what’s the magic word bitch?]

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 1:34 pm Maya

        Wouldn’t you do that for me?

        [heartiste: non sequitur. i’ll ask again:
        what’s the magic word bitch?]

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 1:47 pm Maya

        Do you want something in return?

        [heartiste: another non sequitur from our resident bitch troll. to clarify for the studio audience following along: you demanded links to studies. i replied: what’s the magic word bitch? you have yet to answer my question.
        so.
        are you gonna answer my question?
        or are you gonna continue cunting around like an evasive little shit?]

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 1:53 pm Maya

        I will answer your question.

        [heartiste: let’s put your honesty to the test then, shall we? one more time:

        what’s the magic word bitch?]

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 2:04 pm Maya

        I love you.

        [heartiste: that is not the magic word that matters in this context. try again.]

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 2:19 pm Maya

        Please? 🙂 p.s. You are sure that you don’t want anything in return?

        [heartiste: that’s the magic word.

        “The analyses of the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health (Study 1) and the General Social Surveys (Study 2) show that adolescent and adult intelligence significantly increases adult liberalism, atheism, and men’s (but not women’s) value on sexual exclusivity.”

        http://spq.sagepub.com/content/early/2010/02/16/0190272510361602.abstract%5D

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 2:52 pm Maya

        Thanks! But this is only abstract … I don’t know … I thought women in general value sexual exclusivity very highly. Much higher than men. We don’t need sexual variety, we just need one super hot alpha male. I can’t comprehend why smart women would want to have more than one partner … I’m sure there’s something wrong with this study but since I can’t read it I’m not able to comment. Did you read the whole thing or you let this abstract convince you that smart women are more slutty?! So I was right yesterday when I was saying that dumb women might be more attractive? (If they are less slutty …)

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    • on April 10, 2012 at 1:36 pm Anon

      Other than intelligence, dumb women are superior in every way to smart women.

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  51. on April 10, 2012 at 3:18 pm Anonymous

    If Derbyshire is wrong……… then why, say, do, oh American Jews seem to observe all his commandments in their own personal lives?

    Go tell upper class Jews to let their teenage children mingle in crowds of blacks and see the response you get.

    As to National Review, Rich Lowry sold his soul to the paymasters a long time ago. He is another clown WASP with no backbone who let his country go to shit

    Why did William Buckley, creator of National Review, drink himself to death? The founder of modern conservatism knew the score.

    That his own kind had been beaten by a tribe more ruthless, cunning and oh so congenially vicious

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  52. on April 10, 2012 at 3:33 pm anon

    I am convinced that more intelligent males are more monogamously-inclined than less intelligent males. I’m not convinced that smarter women are more promiscuous than dumber women. Could it be that the self reports of the sexual history of smarter women are more accurate than the self reports of dumber women? Don’t dumber females “lie” by default when asked to quantify things like partner count, etc. because they lack the capacity to quantify as precisely? They have a “shifting” (deceptive) definition of what counts and what doesn’t. I doubt very much smarter women have this problem and more accurately report.

    [heartiste: in my personal experience — admittedly not scientifically robust but large enough in sample size to draw some conclusions — smart chicks are promiscuous outside of serious relationships, and even within LTRs they will cheat once in a while. dumb chicks value monogamy more but are more impulsive and will do stupid things that ruin LTRs for them. in contrast, smart chicks tend to be able to cheat without killing their LTRs. smart chicks are also WAY kinkier in bed than dumb chicks. this is no contest. smart chicks love getting off, dumb chicks love the feeling of love. related, smart chicks are more likely to have sex toys.
    as for men, well… strictly conjecture based on second hand info, but i do think smart men are more interested in monogamy and LTRs than are dumb men. however, the greatest players and seducers are typically very smart men.]

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    • on April 10, 2012 at 4:56 pm itsme

      smarter chicks have smarter hamsters. and they put ’em to good use.

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      • on April 11, 2012 at 12:24 pm P Ray

        They also shatter when they discover they’ve been played by a “lesser” man.
        The mental scars of that adventure, go real deep and last real long.

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  53. on April 10, 2012 at 4:11 pm Tmason

    RE: @GmacGame “curvy” is a dead giveaway of fatfuckness. and now you can add “healthy weight” to that list of bizarro world fatty euphemisms. 49 minutes ago

    They act like their arguments will change whether my dick get’s hard for them.

    I wonder what the penalty will be 50-60 years from now for not dating a fat woman?

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    • on April 10, 2012 at 8:18 pm itsme

      I wonder what the penalty will be 50-60 years from now for not dating a fat woman?

      celibacy.

      by then, people will be so fat that no euphemisms will be needed to describe fatfuckness…..it will be the default, the norm.

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    • on April 11, 2012 at 12:23 pm P Ray

      Or maybe hunchbacked.
      Those women are curvy too!

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  54. on April 10, 2012 at 4:18 pm Anonymous

    4 years have gone by since the ‘the perfect woman’ post. has the idea of the perfect woman changed in heartiste’s heart? it would be really nice to read a sequel of that post.

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    • on April 10, 2012 at 8:07 pm GeishaKate

      I’d love to read the original or a sequel, not to mention the comments would be a treasure trove. I searched for that phrase and didn’t find it, but I did stumble upon “The Sensitive Girl,” which- not surprisingly- made me cry. lol

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      • on April 10, 2012 at 8:44 pm GeishaKate

        Found it! For other interested readers: https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2008/04/07/the-perfect-woman/

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      • on April 11, 2012 at 12:10 pm Maya

        Oh my god, these two posts (The Perfect Woman and The Sensitive Girl) are so beautiful ❤ I love you, Heartsie (but just in a friendly way) and if you haven't already found her I hope you'll find your perfect woman soon! I actually think that all girls are SG's and perfect women it's just that some have been hurt in the past and so they turned to feminism 😦
        I didn't know that you want to love one woman and that's really beautiful. I'm sure you'll make her very happy! Hope you find her soon, it's a shame if you're wasting your time without anyone having a chance to enjoy in your company!

        [heartiste: you ever see that movie “shortbus” where the frigid sex therapist chick takes the advice of a gay client and shoves a remote controlled electronic vibrating egg in her vagina so that her boyfriend can set it off at random times, hopefully shocking her into ecstasy?
        yeah, i dunno why i just thought of that.]

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      • on April 11, 2012 at 12:32 pm Maya

        I haven’t seen it nor I intend to watch it in the future. It’s probably too boring for me … I rather read your blog 🙂 Do you have a girlfriend? Just asking.

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  55. on April 10, 2012 at 4:54 pm Theophilus

    Offtopic for post, but not for blog: http://youtu.be/C9Ko6Xfa84w

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    • on April 10, 2012 at 5:27 pm itsme

      i could barely watch this, too many fat girls.

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    • on April 10, 2012 at 5:42 pm Anon

      Love the youtube commenters:

      “Yep, it just goes to show you that women treat men as objects. Success objects. Who you are as a human being is irrelevant. What you are as a status symbol is everything. There should be a men’s movement protesting objectification of men. The government should spend billions of tax payers dollars doing something about. Our colleges and Universities should offer mens studies programs educating men on how women and society exploit them and men should act pissed off generally about everything.”

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      • on April 11, 2012 at 12:22 pm P Ray

        The biggest way to anger women who want men they’re not attracted to, to wine them and dine them.
        Speaking up about this in a tutorial gets the girls all riled up.
        With my closer to the girls “I don’t see you openly complaining that the head cheerleader ends up with the football captain”, and claps from the other male students, it was a fun way to end the final class of the day.

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    • on April 11, 2012 at 10:50 am chi-town

      That puts my phony foreigner bits to shame that I used to have fun with. That is much better than just not being from around here. It was just as instructive though. I realized its about everything to do with nothing.

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  56. on April 10, 2012 at 6:07 pm itsme

    scene from the last episode of game of thrones.

    theon greyjoy is returning home after being away ten years. he disembarks a boat and is looking for a ride to his father’s castle. a girl walks up to him.

    girl: i’m heading that way. i can take you there.

    theon (looking her up and down slowly): i bet you can.

    girl: you been at sea long? or were there just no women where you came from?

    theon: none like you.

    girl: you don’t know what i’m like.

    theon: maybe you don’t know what you’re like. maybe you need someone to teach you.

    theon: do you know who i am?

    girl: do you think i offer free rides to every man, lord greyjoy?

    next scene, they’re riding two-up on a horse. he’s behind her with his hands on her waist.

    theon: you should give me the reins. i’m a better rider than you. i’ve been on horseback for the past nine years.

    girl: nine years? do you still know your way around a ship?

    girl (takes his hand and looking at it): have these hands ever touched a rope?

    theon (pulling his hand out of her grip and putting it down the front of her shirt): don’t you worry about my hands. the sea’s in my blood.

    girl (clearly aroused by his squeezing and massaging): your blood will be in the sea if i don’t watch where i’m going.

    theon (retracts his hand, shoves it down the front of her pants, and starts stroking): i have a proposal for my father. one that will make him king again. and me after him. you may get to stay in a castle tonight if you’re lucky.

    girl (turns her head back towards him, breathing heavily): is that an offer from my future king?

    theon: an order from your future king.

    theon: you can tell your grandchildren about this night.

    girl: i don’t imagine it’ll be a story fit for children.

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    • on April 10, 2012 at 6:15 pm itsme

      he doesn’t fuck close. in the next scene, it’s revealed that she’s his sister. he didn’t recognize her because he’d been away so long, but she knew who he was the whole time.

      proof that game works on everyone.

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    • on April 10, 2012 at 6:43 pm Anon

      They will end up fucking, just like the lannisters.

      Love that goddamn show.

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  57. on April 10, 2012 at 7:07 pm Seraph

    This is actually a very timely post for me. I happen to work in close quarters often with women 1 on 1, some very attractive, and while I have definitely changed my mindset in dealing with them, the mechanics knowledge is lacking.

    I do the gentle tease/hump busting (get your mind out of the gutter) kind of dialogue, but even I realize that can get old fast if you don’t mix it up. I like the mix of examples because it moves back and froth between mildly flirtatious to just flippant banter.

    Question I have is, the nature of the work we do means we spend time interacting, then while in the same room concentrate on different tasks for a while. Should I limit the amount of times I initiate any conversation? The reason I ask is it seems if I initiate just to hit the ball back as it were, it comes across as trying too hard.

    I am actually married, but I am interested in both learning Game skills on general principle, and for making it clear to my spouse that in the end, I DO have options, and she should behave accordingly. I am waiting for the next company holiday party to show the wife who I work with to firmly implant that in her head.

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  58. on April 10, 2012 at 7:12 pm Seraph

    “For the autistic tards out there, here are some BAD flirty lines:”

    That is some funny shit…Thanks for the laugh.

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  59. on April 11, 2012 at 2:36 am baron von bang

    yes. this is exactly why i read these blogs. this is goooood shit.

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  60. on April 11, 2012 at 9:24 am LP 999

    Hilarous! I love this stuff!

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  61. on April 12, 2012 at 10:00 am hypnoshado

    Really great stuff here. I caught myself in a few of those situations and couldn’t manage to throw anything back fast enough in the heat of the moment.

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  62. on April 13, 2012 at 12:39 pm John Doe

    Girl: “I think my coffee machine is broken”

    You’re obviously not Irish. You don’t put the whiskey in the coffee machine when making Irish Coffee.

    Girl: “What’s your email?”

    address @ hotmail.com. that’s m-a-i-l

    yeah i still use hotmail. google is a fad

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