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Women, Divorce And Misleading Statistics

April 15, 2012 by CH

Feminists like to point to statistics that supposedly show that divorced women experience a fall in their standard of living as proof that wives are reluctantly initiating divorces to get out of marriages to ill-behaving husbands. There are two problems with this highly misleading statistic (assuming the stat is true in the sense it is being used):

1. The presumption that women are thinking through the long-term and less tangible financial consequences of divorce when the short-term and more tangible incentives are all in the woman’s favor.

A woman who knows she will get half, the house, and custody with child support thinks she will hit the jackpot in the event of divorce, because those rewards are immediate and tangible. She won’t be as likely to think through the prospect of diminished career potential or sexual market value. Incentives matter in human behavior, and front-loaded incentives matter more than downstream disincentives.

2. The drop in a divorced woman’s standard of living, if true, is likely based on a faulty comparison with her standard of living while she was married. The better and more relevant comparison is between the standard of living of a divorced woman and her life as a single woman before she got married. Do divorced women live better than they did as single women BEFORE they got married? That is the useful metric which will shed light on whether divorce really is a bad economic decision for women.

In related news, Jason Malloy’s data at The Inductivist on divorce initiation and reasons given is illuminating:

Assuming that those who assign blame are the ones that initiated the divorce, and had a “good” reason:

Wive initiate 70% of divorce and blame the husband 40% of the time. (60% of female initiated divorce is unprovoked)

Husbands initiate 30% of divorce and blame the wife 21% of the time.

(79% of male initiated divorce is unprovoked)

23% of divorces are males “trading-up”
28% of divorces are males “screwing-up”
——-
51% of divorces due to men

42% of divorces are females “trading-up”
7% of divorces are females “screwing-up”
——-
49% of divorces due to women

So women are much more likely to “trade-up,” but men are much more likely to “screw-up”. And the two cancel each other out. Both men and women are seemingly responsible for about half of divorces.

This should put to rest the feminist and white knight lapdog lie that men are primarily responsible for marital failure because they aren’t “manning up”, or are behaving irresponsibly. (Paging Charles Murray…) Women really do initiate at least half the cases of divorce because their husbands have turned unattractively beta, or because they have crossed paths with a more desirable alpha male and indulged their instincts.

Indeed, if we restrict our focus to the under-acknowledged role of female hypergamy in sexual marketplace functioning, then it should be obvious that a major cause of divorce in this country — women trading up — has gone almost entirely unreported and unremarked upon by the discourse gatekeepers, aka Lords of Lies.

Furthermore, and most shockingly to feminist and manboobed sensibility, a strong argument can be made that in the moral calculus defining parameters of blame for marital dissolution, “trading up” is a much worse impetus for divorcing than is “screwing up”. After all, a woman who is compelled to trade up is turning her back completely on her marriage and the vows she made to her husband. In contrast, a man who screws up by, say, partaking of a one night stand or drinking too much, has not necessarily turned his back completely on his marriage, though his screw up may convince his wife that the union is not worth sustaining.

I think, given the nature of the data and the differing biological predispositions among men and women to weigh the gravity of sexual infidelity and emotional infidelity unequally, that it is fair to say women are the prime drivers of the divorce industrial complex, and that this fact, for reasons that go to the heart of the equalist utopia project and feminist prerogative, is actively ignored and suppressed by the commentariat and legal system.

But not anymore. Heh heh heh.

For more on this subject and a debate over the precision of Malloy’s data, check out this post and comment thread.

Update

wfprice makes a good point about the way feminists use standard of living statistics misleadingly:

I tend to reject the statistic, because it usually refers to a feminist study from the 1980s (when academic feminism had carte blanche to make things up). However, it’s true that a woman’s income often looks low on paper following divorce. This is because child support, child tax credits, EIC, property transferred to woman from ex-husband and other benefits are not counted as income. In the meanwhile, it looks like a man’s expenses have gone down, because he no longer gets to claim these expenses on his tax returns. The truth, however, is that she gets all of the supposed increase in his living standard and then some directly in her pocket. The statistic is so deliberately dishonest that it ought to be called what it is: a lie.

Divorce is deliberately set up to ensure that women lose as little as possible when leaving their marriage for whatever reason. Men, of course, are punished no matter what the reason.

A good rule of thumb is to just start with the working assumption that anything which falls out of a feminist’s craggy mouth is a lie.

The reaction of certain quarters to men’s rights has been fascinating to me from an observer’s perspective. The obstinately blind who think men’s rights advocates are whiners really need to get a grip on the fact that the family court system is arrayed against men’s interests. It is grossly unfair to men in its favoritism toward women. Some systemic injustices really are injustices, and not just figments of some broken person’s imagination or examples of confirmation bias.

As I have explained before, there is a very good evolutionary reason why this state of affairs has emerged and persists with little push back from women *or* men: in the unrestricted playgroud of nature, men are disposable. (And women are perishable. Hi, PA!) One man can do the reproductive job of 1,000 men, if necessary. Our hindbrains have evolved over millennia to reflect this biological reality, and it manifests in the ease with which we send young men to war but recoil at the prospect of doing the same to young women, in the compulsion to blame marital breakups on men no matter the facts and to excuse women’s misdeeds, in the quickness with which men’s natural sexual urges are demonized and demagogued while women’s natural sexual urges are lauded as steps toward empowerment and self-actualization, in the permissible bias in family courts against men and for women, in the relative lack of concern for jailed and destitute deadbeat dads compared to the outpouring of sympathies for struggling single moms and divorced women, and in the full weight of societal opprobrium levied against male caddishness in contrast to the revulsion and willful ignorance expressed for confronting female sexual nature, hypergamy and all, honestly and openly.

I could go on with examples of this sex-based disparity in empathy for pages.

Since these are hindbrain reactions, I don’t expect logic or concepts of fairness to appeal to anyone except the victims. Best you can do is what I have done: get all the love and sex and intimacy without the legal Dame-ocles sword swinging over your head. The best feminist is a disarmed feminist.

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  1. on April 15, 2012 at 4:25 pm X

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      • on April 18, 2012 at 12:50 pm corvinus

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        http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=butthex

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      • on April 17, 2012 at 1:22 pm corvinus

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  2. on April 15, 2012 at 4:38 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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    • on April 15, 2012 at 4:46 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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    • on April 15, 2012 at 5:50 pm Anonymous

      Yes

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      http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2009/08/the-difficult-class/

      You must therefore BREAK THE BACK of the white heterosexual European derived American male – the primary member of this “difficult class”

      You do this by handing over the power of the state to the female – and allow her hypergamous instincts to run free when she wants to “trade up”. Enter “no fault divorce” and “half goes to the wife” enshrined in Amerikkan Law, by the Harvard Law profs from Scarsdale

      Also– the biggest opponent of the One World State is also this same target = the white heterosexual male.

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      • on April 15, 2012 at 6:59 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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        Openmarket.org reportsssszzz “University administrators are the equivalent of subprime mortgage brokers,” notes Facebook investor (and founder of Paypal) Peter Thiel, “selling you a story that you should go into debt massively, that it’s not a consumption decision, it’s an investment decision. Actually, no, it’s a bad consumption decision. . . Vast amounts of money are spent by American colleges on useless administrators and politically correct indoctrination. For many people, college no longer pays off as an investment.

        Forbes.com reprots “For a consummately educated guy, Peter Thiel (paypal founder) is derisive about American colleges and universities. In his view they’ve become too politically correct (he and David Sacks argued as much in their 1997 book, The Diversity Myth), hobbling the hard sciences as well as the humanities. Schools have created a classic bubble, says Thiel: Inflation-adjusted spending on administration per student jumped 61% between 1993 and 2007, while the number of administrators per 100 students rose 39%, reports the Goldwater Institute. Student debt levels fill Thiel with disgust. “It is pretty much the only form of indentured servitude in the U.S.,” he says.
        —http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2011/0214/features-peter-thiel-social-media-life-after-facebook_5.html

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        so anyeways teh fiat masters trianed owmen in the arts of divorce debuachery deseefxation destruction lozlzolzlzlz and abortion and debt creation, and as womenze rose to power on teh ffront lines of the epreemptive wars against teh unborn they murdered 50,000,000 since rose vs. wade they deconstructed and debuached tehc ulture on campuses as when yhou put womenze in charge it soons becomes all butthex all the time as priscilia paintion woemnze editor in chief of simon and schuster is publishing tucker max’s next book zlzolslssslslsoslsoslzozlzlzlzlz c hecks che-=checks it out peoples are saying and speaking out about the way womenze are debucahing defiling and butthexing the culture lozlzlzlzlzl:

        http://community.feministing.com/2009/09/why-are-female-executives-publ.html

        Why are Female Executives Publishing Tucker Max?

        Saw this floating around. good question!

        MCCOY MOUNTAIN
        ART, FILM, & LITERATURE GUILD OF AMERICA

        Ms. Priscilla Painton

        Simon & Schuster Editor in Chief

        RE: ASSHOLES FINISH FIRST, Secretive Tapings of Anal Sex without The Girl’s Consent, Corporate Douchebaggery, and the Epic Failure of I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell

        Despite the fact that teenagers nationwide are going to hear gem pick-up lines like “get away from me or I’m going to carve another fuck hole in your torso”, what truly crowns this film as an epic fail is its apologetic attempt to masquerade gratuity as an Apatovian bromance. –http://www.thelmagazine.com/newyork/we-hope-you-can-still-get-alcohol-poisoning-in-hell/Content?oid=1291260

        “Little Italy is fighting back against Tucker Max ‘s controversial ad campaign . Yeah, that poster on the right says, “Blind Girls Never See You Coming.” Va fan culo, indeed.” –http://gothamist.com/2009/09/21/tucker_max.php

        Dear Ms. Painton,

        I and my colleagues in the ART, FILM & LITERATURE GUILD have a couple questions regarding the direction you are taking Simon and Schuster in. Why are you guys/gals hating on art, literature, culture and America? It was recently brought to our attention that you are intent on publishing Tucker Max’s ASSHOLES FINISH FIRST, and that your company actually gave him a $300,000 advance for his fart art. As the editor in chief of Simon and Schuster, owned the CBS corporation, do you truly believe Assholes Finish First? It is oft said that girls like “bad boys.” Does Tucker’s fart art douchebag wit titillate and excite you? Is that why you are publishing and profiting from it? Did you laugh during Tucker’s recent film flop when what’s-his-name stated that overweight women aren’t real people? Do you smile smugly when your billion-dollar corporation profits from douchebaggery?

        http://gawker.com/5363233/tucker-maxs-campaign-of-hate-against-chicagos-transit-system “The ads were poetic ditties of white text on a black background . Like: “Blind girls never see you coming” and “Strippers Will Not Tolerate Disrespect (Just Kidding).””

        “Over at the Washington, D.C., premiere, Max’s video minion ridicules both Vietnamese and African-American women, the former for being employed as a pedicurist, and the latter for having a name he finds funny.”

        http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2009/09/10/spot-your-local-tucker-max-douchebag/

        Do you enjoy profiting from making fun of Asians and overweight women? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1220628/board/thread/148314040

        http://tuckermaxdoucebag.blogspot.com

        http://tuckermaxlies.blogspot.com

        Does this make you laugh Ms. Painton? It is not too late to choose the right direction for Simon and Schuster and CBS and walk away from publishing Assholes Finish First . At most it will bring in a few pennies, which will lead everyone to conclude that you and CBS aren’t in it for the money, but just the debauchery and destruction of the culture. As Tucker Max pointed out, the feminist movement empowered women and gave them the right to choose the art they affiliated with and promote. So now, with all the power in your hands, what will you chose on behalf of women all over the world? Please do us proud and choose the right thing.

        “The ad campaign for the new flick “I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell” includes slogans like “Deaf Girls Can’t Hear You Coming” and “Strippers Will Not Tolerate Disrespect (Just Kidding!).””

        –http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-beat/New-Movie-Ads-Take-Offensive-to-the-Max-59695522.html

        Why is corporate America, under your direction Ms. Painton, forcing epic “Richard Kelly” fail fart art and film on the common public? Do you also find secretive tapings of anal sex without the girl’s consent to be entertaining and titillating art?

        http://gawker.com/5363233/tucker-maxs-campaign-of-hate-against-chicagos-transit-system

        Let’s talk for a sec about something Tucker glamorizes and pretends is funny in his ‘book’: filming a naked women in his bedroom without her consent. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that while he’s doing this he is coaxing the girl to have anal sex with him, an exploitative act that a guy like him probably especially enjoys.

        –http://www.bitchmagazine.org/post/douchebag-decree-marketing-tucker-max

        – http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2009/09/11/the-rapiest-quotes-from-i-hope-they-serve-beer-in-hell/

        “OK, we can try anal sex , but I want it to be special and romantic. …. process: I was going to fuck her in the butt and film it without her consent ,” — http://www.tuckermax.com/archives/entries/date/tucker_tries_buttsex_hilarity_does_not_ensue.phtml

        Do you and the CBS Corporation find this entertaining? As you know, sodomy is a sin in the Old Testament as is sex out of wedlock and fornication. What is your motivation in working with those who promote and profit from secretive tapings of anal sex?

        Do you find such “literature” and “art” to be representative of Simon and Schuster and CBS?

        “In one of his most notorious pieces, he convinces a girl to have anal sex and tapes it without her consent.” — http://www.salon.com/mwt/broadsheet/feature/2009/09/08/tucker_max/

        Despite the fact that teenagers nationwide are going to hear gem pick-up lines like “get away from me or I’m going to carve another fuck hole in your torso”, what truly crowns this film as an epic fail is its apologetic attempt to masquerade gratuity as an Apatovian bromance. –http://www.thelmagazine.com/newyork/we-hope-you-can-still-get-alcohol-poisoning-in-hell/Content?oid=1291260

        Ms. Painton–do you find that entertaining? Is it good literature? Do you consider demeaning stories about having sex with midgets good literature? Do you consider it good business to make fun of Asians, overweight women, and minorities so as to bolster your bottom line?

        What is driving you to publish Assholes Finish First ? What are your motivations? Money? America does not want Tucker Max, as demonstrated this past weekend at the boxoffice. Do you find these signs to be entertaining/a good CBS investment?

        http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2009/09/15/tucker-max-fans-fight-rape-with-racism/

        Is Tucker Max’s fan base the group that Simon & Schuster is seeking to serve under your leadership?

        http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2009/09/14/tucker-max-too-sexist-for-ad-space/

        It seems that America believes otherwise as Richard Kelly and Tucker Max’s I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell has proven to be a colossal artistic and financial failure.

        “Not faring so well, however, was the Tucker Max adaptation I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell, which took in $369,000 from 120 theaters with a well-below-average $3,075 per-screen average.” — http://www.movieweb.com/news/NEdXykfeBDXwhe

        So Priscilla, please tell us about your douchetastic love affair with Tucker Max and his fart art. Does it really titillate you as a woman and feminist? Say it isn’t so! Is this good Simon and Schuster/CBS branding? Why did your massive billion-dollar corporation reward Tucker with a $300,000 advance?

        “Little Italy is fighting back against Tucker Max ‘s controversial ad campaign . Yeah, that poster on the right says, “Blind Girls Never See You Coming.” Va fan culo, indeed.” –http://gothamist.com/2009/09/21/tucker_max.php

        Does CBS and Simon & Schuster approve of registering fake email accounts to promote stories regarding secretive tapings of anal sex without the girl’s consent?

        ” The lack of traditional plugs forced Max to promote his web site and book via the internet. He would create fake e-mail accounts and then bombard entertainment sites and news aggregators with links to his material.” — http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/03/11/tucker_max_sxsw/

        For this, your billion-dollar corporation rewarded Tucker with a $300,000 advance.

        “Max may have to concentrate on his agent style business moving forward because he’s running out of material. He’s received a $300,000 advance for a second version of his drunken, sexual exploits – a tome that will contain the stories not ripe enough for the first cut.” — http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/03/11/tucker_max_sxsw/

        Are you proud of Simon & Schuster and your corporation? Funding and encouraging hype, failure, douchebaggery, debauchery, lies, secretive tapings of anal sex without the girl’s consent, and making fun of Asians, overweight women, and minorities. Is that what attracts you to Tucker Max, or is it the epic artistic and financial failure of his film?

        http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/i_hope_they_serve_beer_in_hell/

        “I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell fails in its attempts at raunchy humor, and Tucker Max comes across so unlikable and outrageous that the film’s inevitable story arc feels forced.”

        It is not too late to choose the right direction for Simon and Schuster and walk away from publishing Assholes Finish First .

        Best,

        McCoy Mountain & The ART, FILM & LITERATURE GUILD

        –http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1220628/board/thread/148314040

        Will Priscilla Painton at Simon & Shuster still Publish *beep* Finish First?

        the title makes no sense. *beep* might finish first in some silly women’s eyes, but they epic fail in reality, as demonstrated by tucker’s epic fart art film fail, which priscilla painton is pretendning not to notice.

        What’s up with women these days?

        It seems the more they run things, the more they try to force douchebag fart art on everyone:

        Former ‘Time’ Exec. Relieves Venerable Editor Mayhew At Simon & Schuster

        http://gawker.com/5002333/former-time-exec-relieves-venerable-editor-mayhew-at-simon–schuster

        Anywho, does Priscilla Painton at Simon & Shuster have a personal vendetta against asians, minorities, overweight women, and little people?

        Does she think tucker’s ads are cute and humorous?

        http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-beat/New-Movie-Ads-Take-Offensive-to-the-Max-59695522.html

        Does she get off on this?

        “The ad campaign for the new flick “I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell” includes slogans like “Deaf Girls Can’t Hear You Coming” and “Strippers Will Not Tolerate Disrespect (Just Kidding!).”

        Is that supposed to be funny?” –http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-beat/New-Movie-Ads-Take-Offensive-to-the-Max-59695522.html

        http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2009/09/10/spot-your-local-tucker-max-douchebag/

        Is this the new face and culture of simon and schuster?

        http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist/2009/09/15/tucker-max-fans-fight-rape-with-racism/

        Does Priscilla Painton at Simon and Schuster giggle at secretive tapings of anal sex without the girl’s consent and also this:

        http://www.penguinblogs.ca/davidson/archives/00000079.html

        http://tuckermaxlies.blogspot.com/2008/08/sillylittlefreak.html

        http://www.tuckermax.com/archives/entries/date/the_absinthe_donuts_story.phtml

        “11:17: The girl starts saying something about what a horrible person I am. I stare at her, but I am not listening. I am preparing myself. I am B-Rabbit. This is the final battle rap. I will win the hostile crowd:

        [I interrupt the fat girl] “Ward, I think you’re being a little hard on the Beaver, [as I point to each in turn] so is Eddie Haskell, Wally, and Miss Cleaver.”

        [To the fat guy with greasy hair in the camo vest] “Look out everyone! It’s the Pillsbury Commando! Hey Chunk, when was the last time you washed your hair? Does it give you more hit points to have that grease helmet? I hate to break the news, but +5 defense only counts in Dungeons and Dragons.”

        [To the ugly Asian girl] “Why you no rike me? You want me frip over? You no piss me off! ME FIND YOU IN POCKING ROT!! YOU NO TAKE MING ARIVE!!”

        [To the small frail dork–I notice he has a lazy eye] “Dude–Look at me when I’m talking to you–BOTH EYES AT ONCE. Are you really this ugly or are you just playing? EVERYONE, BE CAREFUL, THIS GUY LURKS UNDER THE STAIRS AND TRIES TO LICK YOUR SHOES WHEN YOU PASS BY!”

        [To the original fatty, pause for effect] “Why do you do this to yourself? WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO YOURSELF? Look, I’m gonna give you some advice-leave the party, take the geek squad with you, go to Denny’s, order about 10 Grand Slam Breakfasts, and eat your pain away. Won’t be the first time will it?”

        11:19: I am finished. The kitchen is quiet, except for Eddie and Rich laughing. The four freaks are completely speechless. Everyone is staring at me. I blurt out, “WHAT? I’m pretty sure it’s what Jesus would’ve done.” Eddie and Rich promptly remove me from the kitchen.”

        Is Priscilla Painton publishing tucker’s next book for the love of literature, art, or money?

        ‘Cause it seems that those who work with tucker generally hate and lose literature, art, and money.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priscilla_Painton

        http://www.theladyfinger.com/2009/09/tucker-max-brings-his-misogyny-to-big.html

        “What ensues, according the film’s trailer, is alcohol-fueled misogynistic mayhem. Max has sex with several women, including, to his smug satisfaction, a dwarf.”

        See? That is the clever banker ruse.

        Have women such as Priscilla fund and promote it, while others protest it, enriching the bankers as marriage is destroyed and the state is grown.

        http://www.stephenbaskerville.net/

        “A Site about the Divorce Regime, Family Court Corruption,
        and Government’s War on Fathers”

        “The divorce regime is the most totalitarian institution ever to arise in the United States. Its operatives in the family courts and the social service agencies recognize no private sphere of life. “The power of family court judges is almost unlimited,” according to Judge Robert Page of the New Jersey family court. “Social workers are perceived to have nearly unlimited power,” a San Diego Grand Jury concludes. “Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Total immunity [enjoyed by social workers] is absolute power.”

        The divorce regime is responsible for much more than “ugly divorces,” “nasty custody battles,” and other clichés. It is the most serious perpetrator of human and constitutional rights violations in America today. Because it strikes the most basic institution of any civilization – the family – the divorce regime is a threat not only to social order but to civil freedom. It is also almost completely unopposed. No political party and no politicians question it. No journalists investigate it in any depth. A few attorneys have spoken out, but they are eventually suspended or disbarred. Some academics have written about it, but they soon stop. No human rights or civil liberties groups challenge it, and some positively support it. Very few “pro-family” lobbies question it. This is because the divorce regime operates through money, political power, and fear.” — http://www.stephenbaskerville.net/

        –http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1220628/board/thread/148314040

        Have you seen/read END THE FED by Ron Paul? “Everyone must read this book–Congressmen and college students, Democrats and Republicans–all Americans.”
        –Vince Vaughn

        When you think about it, Tucker Max was the Fed’s ultimate creation–a soulless, debased douchebag:

        “My name is Tucker Max, and I am an *beep*

        Think about it–Tucker’s motto @ http://tuckermax.com could be the Fed’s motto:
        “I get excessively drunk via inflating the currency at inappropriate times, disregard social norms (funding feminism/debauchery & debasement of the family/currency/culture/tucker max(educated at the Fed’s University of Chicago’s School of Economics (school of freakanomics) and Duke scholarship)), indulge every whim/war, ignore the consequences of my actions/bubbles/bailouts, fund idiots and posers and tucker-max-like CEOs, sleep with more women than is safe or reasonable/luring them with fiat currency & a fiat-funded bus, and just generally act like a raging darko/douchebag/dickhead.”

        What do you think of Ron Paul’s new book–End the Fed?

        End the Fed

        Review for End The Fed
        “Rarely has a single book not only challenged, but decisively changed my mind. “
        –Arlo Guthrie

        “Everyone must read this book–Congressmen and college students, Democrats and Republicans–all Americans.”
        –Vince Vaughn

        Vince Vaughn is a far, far better actor/director/writer than Tucker Max, so it makes sense that Tucker and his jealous friends at the Fed detest Arlo Guthrie and Vince Vaughan as well as art, film, and literature.

        The book has much better reviews and is far-higher ranked than Tucker’s douchey books/film/trailer–Five solid stars!

        Why do you donnie darko douchos/cbs haterz hate on art, the Constitution, morality, goodness, sound money, peace, prosperity, love, the family, kindness, and Ron Paul so much?

        And like the Fed, tucker privatizes all the profits of his private jet while sharing all the risk with his volunteer employees, who work for free.

        “Feminism which espoused “women’s rights” actually has driven femininity underground, torn the sexes asunder, and stripped woman of recognition for being wives and mothers, roles essential to their own fulfillment, to men, and to children and society.” –http://www.savethemales.ca/

        – http://www.amazon.com/Save-Males-Matter-Women-Should/dp/1400065798

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      • on April 16, 2012 at 3:14 pm Evan

        GBFM: Still better than a college education.

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      • on April 17, 2012 at 12:59 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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      • on April 15, 2012 at 7:01 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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      • on April 16, 2012 at 8:22 am Andrew S.

        or “why does my jaw always hurt??”

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      • on April 16, 2012 at 10:56 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        Three questions ever American woman asks when they hit thirty:

        1. Why does my butt hurt?
        2. Why does my jaw hurt?
        3. Where are all the good men?

        zlozozozozozoz

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      • on April 15, 2012 at 9:41 pm Ulf Elfvin

        No. They are against the men – and women – of ability , the ones who earn trough their own efforts, no matter race, creed, ot sexuality.

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      • on April 15, 2012 at 11:13 pm Anonymous

        lzozozozozlzo concentration camps coming back, payback for WWII, you snooze you lose:

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 1:41 pm Anonymous

      I will refer GBFM’s stunning analysis of the fiat monetary system to my colleagues at the Cato Institute, in little time they will be arguing in front of the Supreme Court against bernanke’s using fiat debt and keynesian butthex to incentivize the divorce state to hire womenz as sales girls for the Fed who help bernanke convert their ex-husbands physical assets into fiat dollarz as means to keep bernanke’s dystopian scam of paper money going a little while longer.

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      • on April 17, 2012 at 1:05 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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      • on April 17, 2012 at 1:41 am Anon

        *Standing up*

        *Clap clap clap*

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      • on April 17, 2012 at 1:08 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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        http://greatbooksformen.wordpress.com/2010/06/07/how-da-university-works-feminism-debt-debauchery-divorce-desecration-machinearmy-lzozlzlzlzlzl/

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  4. on April 15, 2012 at 4:48 pm GeishaKate

    First of all, what the hell is “unprovoked divorce”? STAY TOGETHER! Sheesh.

    My state is a father friendly one (which I am in support of) in which most fathers will get fifty percent custody if they request it. (The fact that my ex-husband did not is fairly rare.) When that is the case, women will experience a reduction in standard of living because now the original couple is maintaining two residences instead of one and neither is paying the other child support since the custody is shared.

    There are also cases where the women could be asked to pay spousal support since they are earning more than their former husbands (which was probably part of the problem with the marriage in the first place). And, one must take into consideration HOW people are spending their money. Are they focusing on taking care of the basics, for instance, or are they spending money in unnecessary areas and then feeling like their standard has fallen.

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    • on April 15, 2012 at 7:02 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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      • on April 15, 2012 at 8:39 pm Anonymous

        lzozozolzolzolzo

        Ahhh, I can see you are a vise student of buttextedness tucker max rhmes with goldman sax…

        HOWVER< should we tell da people of the other secret teachings lzozozol

        Should we do it Heartiste?!

        1. Da Secret Teaching Doesn’t Exist – It Is Whatever Gets The Tribe More Power At The Time lzozozol

        "It is true that I have known Straussians almost all my life. And the one thing I was taught about them from the earliest age is that they are wrong. The person who taught me this was my father, an ancient historian who spent a good portion of his time at Cornell University in the 1960s arguing with Allan Bloom….

        As best I can recall, their biggest point of contention was whether Plato was just kidding in The Republic. Bloom said he was just kidding. I later learned that this idea–that the greatest thinkers in history never mean what they say and are always kidding–is a core principle of Straussianism.

        Anyway, my father said Plato was not kidding. The argument would go back and forth for hours, and in my memory it always ended with Bloom saying, "We'll have to look at the text," which was a great way of ending the discussion because there was no ancient Greek text of The Republic available in the Statler's lunch room. So, as I saw it, and as my father saw it, that was sort of a surrender."

        http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/006/656lwsoy.asp

        2. “The Virtues For Men” Pushed By Bill Bennett Are BS Fodder For For the Buttexted Masses; Meanwhile, The Elite Knows That True Manliness Is Nietzsche’s Nihilism

        lzozozol – Speaking of Straussian Guru Harvey Mansfield, Harvard WASP teacher of Bill Kristol, Weekly Standard Editor/World Invader:

        “It is odd, however, that Mansfield ….. while he opens and closes his book by apparently endorsing the teaching of Plato and Aristotle that virtue is rooted in nature, the central chapter of his book (Chapter 4) is devoted to the "manly nihilism" of Teddy Roosevelt and Friedrich Nietzsche.

        He thus leaves his reader suspecting that the secret teaching of the book is the truth of "manly nihilism."

        "The most dramatic statement of manliness," Mansfield asserts, "would be the one where the man is the source of all meaning," which is nihilism (82). Nietzsche is "the philosopher of manliness in modern times" (110). Teddy Roosevelt is the best political expression of manly nihilism, particularly in the "assertiveness of executive power" (97).”

        http://darwinianconservatism.blogspot.com/2006/05/mansfields-manly-nihilism.html

        3. Victims who stay victims ultimately DESERVE to be destroyed lzolzolzolzolz – because there is plenty of time to realize who is victimizing you, and what to do about it

        “Andrew Hamilton touched on these circumstances in his fine but depressing essay Prisoners of Fate?, quoting Franklin D. Roosevelt as saying “Men are not prisoners of fate, but only prisoners of their own minds. They have within themselves the power to become free at any moment.” Hamilton points out that “contrary to his words, Roosevelt’s speechwriters understood perfectly well that men’s minds are the prisoners of whoever controls the media of mass communications….. —I think the point is clear: Western man has been facing this kind of deception and manipulation for hundreds of years now. Yet today, unlike so often in the past, most Whites freeze like deer in the headlights of a car when confronted with evidence.”

        http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/authors/Connelly-Deceit.html

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      • on April 15, 2012 at 9:59 pm Classic Sparkle

        Wise and honest menz must learneth da secret secretz of da jewniversity. One must internalise the masterful memeticz jewdo and defend onezselves fromz the attackz!

        Da niggaz dat gotz the earz to hear, let them hears!

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      • on April 16, 2012 at 2:02 pm danielantinora

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      • on April 16, 2012 at 9:10 pm Goyim Buttexted International MasterClass (TM), (Patent Pending)

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        Divine Mandate to Kill Christians – 483 Maimonides and Islam – 491 Noachide Hoax – 496 Rabbinic Texts: Virulent Source of Anti-Black Racism – 505 Maimonides and Kabbalah – 514 Kaparot: The Sin Chicken – 516 The Falsified Schindler’s List Quote – 526 Non-Jews are Supernal Refuse – 529 Cursing the homes and graves of gentiles – 534 Images and Talismans – 541 Ariel Toaff’s suppressed history of ritual murder – 559 Martin Luther and Immanuel Kant – 636 Johann Reuchlin – 652 Sodomy in the Synagogue – 672 Molestation of Infants in the Circumcision Rite (Bris) – 678 A Homo-Erotic Culture – 684 Rabbinic Hatred of Women – 706 Phariseeism Begins in Menstrual Blood – 729 Inside the Menstrual Science of the Rabbis – 736

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 6:46 am danielantinora

      My state is a father friendly one (which I am in support of) in which most fathers will get fifty percent custody if they request it. (The fact that my ex-husband did not is fairly rare.)

      That is ambiguous. Did you kidnap the kids or not? Did he not request 50% custody or did the courts aid you in kidnapping the children?

      I know they sure talk a lot about “the best interest” of the children being “regular and continuing contact” with both parents but it never seems to work out that way in praxis.

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 5:20 pm Hecate

      Exactly what happened in my divorce — we share custody, so no child support (and we didn’t want to deal with the state); no alimony because we both make about the same and it would be stupid. We switch off years claiming the tax credit.

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  5. on April 15, 2012 at 4:56 pm saku

    what’s narcassism?

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    • on April 15, 2012 at 10:00 pm Classic Sparkle

      Narcissism is the failure to make the distinction between self and non-self

      Narcassism is indeed doing a line of disco shit off a stripper’s ass while Pantera’s Walk is blasting in the joint.

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      • on April 16, 2012 at 7:57 pm Firepower

        If
        you’re over 40

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  6. on April 15, 2012 at 5:24 pm Wo Fat

    narcassism is doing a line of blow off a stripper’s derriere.

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    • on April 17, 2012 at 1:36 pm Firepower

      Must be
      Common Meme Week
      here at Chateau –
      4.0

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  7. on April 15, 2012 at 5:37 pm gritartisan

    Remember the tweet you posted about immigration support as a “lets you and him fight” shaft to the middle class? Feminism support by the elites is no different.

    Can you point me to a woman who actually thinks long term? The hottest think so short term that it launches them into another dimension filled with daydreaming about emotions about the beach. See: any hot chick’s Tumblr.

    Even amongst collegiate peers, girls work one homework assignment to the next. The day I see a girl crack a book to get a head start on the next chapter HawHawHaw what was I saying?

    Just like the cock carousel is rooted in short term emotional ego-validation, so is the id to initiate a divorce.

    “Why won’t my car start?”
    -“You left the lights on and drained the battery. Its dead. Cause and effect.”
    -“But my car is gasoline powered.”

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  8. on April 15, 2012 at 5:38 pm wfprice

    Feminists like to point to statistics that supposedly show that divorced women experience a fall in their standard of living as proof that wives are reluctantly initiating divorces to get out of marriages to ill-behaving husbands. There are two problems with this highly misleading statistic (assuming the stat is true in the sense it is being used)

    I tend to reject the statistic, because it usually refers to a feminist study from the 1980s (when academic feminism had carte blanche to make things up). However, it’s true that a woman’s income often looks low on paper following divorce. This is because child support, child tax credits, EIC, property transferred to woman from ex-husband and other benefits are not counted as income. In the meanwhile, it looks like a man’s expenses have gone down, because he no longer gets to claim these expenses on his tax returns. The truth, however, is that she gets all of the supposed increase in his living standard and then some directly in her pocket. The statistic is so deliberately dishonest that it ought to be called what it is: a lie.

    Divorce is deliberately set up to ensure that women lose as little as possible when leaving their marriage for whatever reason. Men, of course, are punished no matter what the reason.

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    • on April 15, 2012 at 6:58 pm Firepower

      wfprice
      Men, of course, are punished no matter what the reason.

      And shall continue to be punished to an even greater extent – because they effectively do nothing to stop that punishment.

      Writing stern “Letters to the Editor” get the same Circular File Treatment ALL letters to politicians get.

      Unless, you’re black (and named Trayvon) – those folks KNOW how to get results.

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  9. on April 15, 2012 at 5:52 pm blert

    I’ve always thought that ‘husbands screwing up’ = drugs as entertainment.

    He gets popped on a narc beef… She kicks him loose… and takes all that is.

    His career prospects implode… his child support is based upon pre-conviction earnings.

    He spends the rest of his daze fleeing debtors prison — ( since he can’t remotely sustain ‘child support’. )

    ====

    In today’s fem-centric family court up is down, left is right.

    The actual enforcement of marriage damages is 100% against the male.

    Hence, it’s imploding as a social norm.

    ====

    With all of the benefits womandated towards XX — her need to remain attrative to her mate ( stay in shape, etc. ) has collapsed.

    ====

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  10. on April 15, 2012 at 8:09 pm Bigfoot

    ” Our hindbrains have evolved over millennia to reflect this biological reality, and it manifests in the ease with which we send young men to war but recoil at the prospect of doing the same to young women, in the compulsion to blame marital breakups on men no matter the facts and to excuse women’s misdeeds, in the quickness with which men’s natural sexual urges are demonized and demagogued while women’s natural sexual urges are lauded as steps toward empowerment and self-actualization, in the permissible bias in family courts against men and for women, in the relative lack of concern for jailed and destitute deadbeat dads compared to the outpouring of sympathies for struggling single moms and divorced women, and in the full weight of societal opprobrium levied against male caddishness in contrast to the revulsion and willful ignorance expressed for confronting female sexual nature, hypergamy and all, honestly and openly.”

    Perfect explanation of what we see in real life.

    A man travels to fuck women and women immediately start shaming him.

    A girl writes a fuck diary of the guys she fucked in college and rates them like a piece of meat and feminists laud her.

    Thats why its more important for guys to be discreet and stealthy these days.

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  11. on April 15, 2012 at 8:10 pm Rocket Science

    It is always unfair to women.

    I suspect a lot of the lower living standard for women post divorce reflects the fact that the man bring more to the table in income. When they divorce, she might get the house and some pension rights, but maybe she trades those for alimony. Thus, her income falls but her wealth is increased. You know they lie like mad, right?

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  12. on April 15, 2012 at 8:13 pm Tertullian

    WFPrice’s comment bears repeating.

    An ex-wife does not have to count child support payments as taxable income.

    Thus, although an ex-wife’s TAXABLE income may drop after a divorce, her DISPOSABLE income will usually increase.

    The other side of the coin is the fact that an ex-husband is taxed on the money he uses to pay child support. Even worse, he does not get to write off those child support payments on his taxes.

    So although his taxable income may stay the same after the divorce, his disposable income usually takes a massive hit.

    And of course, there’s no obligation for an ex-spouse to use child support payments for the care of the children…the courts do absolutely nothing to monitor how an ex-wife (I’ll say “ex-wife” instead of “ex-husband” since women get custody over 90% of the time) spends the money she receives from the man she dumped.

    Marriage 2.0….who needs it ?

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    • on April 15, 2012 at 8:36 pm Nathan

      “The other side of the coin is the fact that an ex-husband is taxed on the money he uses to pay child support. Even worse, he does not get to write off those child support payments on his taxes.”

      This is why any guy with young children who is going through a divorce needs to try to negotiate something in the divorce decree that allows him to make direct payments to his childrens’ daycare in lieu of child support. This way, you can write it off on your taxes. Also, make sure that you get it put in the decree that you get to claim at least one of the children as a dependent on your income taxes.

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      • on April 15, 2012 at 9:20 pm Anon

        Negotiating over tax dependents may work, but good luck with direct payments in a divorce decree. And what happens when daycare is no longer necessary?

        You might try negotiating a trust fund.

        But why in hell would an ex-wife want to change the status quo that basically diverts your pre-tax paycheck directly to her bank account, no-strings-attached?

        She wouldn’t have filed for divorce if she had any respect for you or your opinion in the first place.

        If your wife makes less than you, you might be obligated to pay her lawyers, who will be happy to fight over every detail and bill you for it.

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      • on April 15, 2012 at 10:02 pm Classic Sparkle

        Or get it all written into an agreement as “spousal support” since alimony is a tax write off.

        Or… Don’t get married and don’t have kids.

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 5:36 pm Hecate

      Keep in mind that a guy could get just as fucked if he has a child out of wedlock. My ex has a daughter with a woman who refuses to work more than 10 hours per week — so although she is impugned for the 30 hours she COULD work, she still gets a hefty child support check every month and is on every kind of state aid she can get (which was recently cut off because her 4 years are up — thanks Michigan!). She doesn’t have to use the money on the child; true, there is no accountability of use of the money. She also got “work-related child care” payments from him for the pre-school years (garnished from his check); and he has to pay 60% of health care and education costs. Only 8 more years to go…until she’s ready for college…

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  13. on April 15, 2012 at 8:35 pm corvinus

    I would really like to see wife-initiated divorce rates (and female obesity rates) by alphaness of the husband.

    If a clear correlation can be shown between a wife getting fat and/or dumping a husband and beta and/or omega behavior on the husband’s part, it may put to rest the endless MGTOW complaints of marriage being outdated and a raw deal for men. Or maybe the MGTOW crowd are betas and omegas who can’t or won’t change, a possibility that cannot be entirely ruled out…

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 11:22 am Samuel

      All the alphaness in the world cannot protect a man from the sword of Damocles that is female hypergamy. Alphas also tend to rise and fall in life, with the ebb and tide of health and finances.

      We must also avoid deciding that we have the end-all solution of gaming your wife, and plummet into marriage thinking we have the antidote to female hypergamy. To think “that won’t happen to ME” is the height of foolish arrogance, and similar to a druggie who insists he won’t get hooked like everyone else.

      Marriage makes more sense for the red-pill man than the beta herbs because only the red-pill men have a chance at a prosperous marriage that doesn’t blow chunks.

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      • on April 16, 2012 at 12:31 pm corvinus

        The counter to female hypergamy is male more-attractive-women-gamy. In a sense, it goes both ways.

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      • on April 16, 2012 at 4:45 pm Anonymous

        No. It doesn’t.

        A man is less likely to sacrifice his marriage and kids for a hotter fling. Even if he falls in love with a another woman, he can still love his legitimate wife and maintain the same level of respect and loyalty towards her.
        Whereas an adulteress “loves” her cuckold in a condescendant fashion, and is barely able to hide her feelings of disgust whenever he touches her or qualifies himself to her.

        Female hypergamy is much more destructive than the male desire for variety.

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      • on April 16, 2012 at 5:38 pm corvinus

        I think it’s funny how people blame women getting tired of beta behavior on female hypergamy. No, women getting tired of beta behavior is like men getting tired of a dumpy, disgustingly fat wife. Female hypergamy is a fact of life. They’re all like that. So how come it wasn’t a problem for the average man in the 1800s, but is now? Beta behavior, folks. Courtesy of liberalism and PCness.

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      • on April 17, 2012 at 3:36 pm K(yle)

        In the 19th century it wasn’t really an option to get a divorce except in the most egregious cases of fault, which usually had to be proved in court. On top of that people didn’t get married with the romantic expectations that they have today. Women daydreaming about dashing men sweeping them off their feet was relegated to the realm of fantasy.

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  14. on April 15, 2012 at 8:36 pm Rocket Science

    Speaking of divorce, I saw a scene today which is transparent and educational if you subscribe to realism.

    I drive through Pennsylvannia occasionally. If I go off the road to eat, I am always impressed by how unattractive the local women are. Obesity and bad teeth are the norm. The men are no different, usually. Saturday I was standing out in the parking lot of a McDonalds just off 81 in PA when two women and about 6 boys in softball uniforms came out. They were in two cars. I noticed immediately that one of the women was nice looking. Petite, pretty face, just a normal, nice looking youngish women, but a standout in PA. As they were getting into the cars, she yelled loudly at one of the boys (12 years old?). I could hear it plain as day from 30 feet away.

    “When you go to your father’s house today, be sure to bring back your glove and uniform, because you know he won’t pack it!!

    Nice. She humilates her son, by degrading his father in public, and won’t even say he is going to visit his father, just going to his father’s house. Nasty and bitter.

    I guess the following alternative was too much for this American woman:

    “When you vist your father this weekend, remind him to pack up your softball gear. He usually forgets that sort of thing. Have a nice time, honey, and I’ll see you etc…..”

    When I see a pretty, youngish divorced woman, I don’t have much doubt who caused the divorce. I assume her bitterness is because her dating value has slipped a lot and she didn’t hook permanently up with the alpha guy she was shagging.

    If there is justice, her ex may have hooked up with another woman already, and is happily in a productive relationship, causing her even more bitterness. Women forget that, for a woman, is it easy to get laid but hard to get married. For men, getting married is the easy part. Getting laid is the hard part.

    It is unfair to women, though.

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    • on April 15, 2012 at 10:04 pm Classic Sparkle

      Life is unfair to women. And even Nature, that fucking hag, that Queen of Bitches, seems to hate her own kind most ferociously!

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 3:47 pm DiavoloBello

      “Women forget that, for a woman, is it easy to get laid but hard to get married. For men, getting married is the easy part. Getting laid is the hard part.” – Dude, that is gold!

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      • on April 17, 2012 at 2:08 pm Greg Eliot

        Definitely one of the best postings on this site, whose great postings are innumerable.

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  15. on April 15, 2012 at 9:48 pm me

    Keep their cavernous cunts nice and wet and they won’t be divorcing you so much.

    It’s as though…this blog and others…contain within some sort of valuable information??

    Amazing to me that tips on how to get a woman turned on are thought of as useless to a married man. Fucking idiots.

    A woman should be in a tailspin constantly until she’s on her deathbed, when she closes her eyes with a smile on her face, thinking to herself “Yes I choose this man in my heart of hearts”.

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    • on April 15, 2012 at 11:04 pm James

      OT but overheard a conversation relevant to chateau interests earlier today.

      Was listening to a white guy and a westernized asian girl next to me talk while studying for my exam down at the school computer library. The girl was talking about how she became the cum dumpster (she said “friends with benefits” but hey) of some alpha. Described him as average looking but with (and after thinking of the right word to use) game. She said she thought he was a douchebag at first. Surprisingly candid, and of course more confirmation of the Chateau maxims (not to mention that it looks like PUA vocabulary is penetrating the mainstream). The guy also apparently commented on how women hit their peak value earlier than men. The greater beta she was with (I call him greater beta because he wasn’t slobbering over the chick and talked about how he dumped his girlfriend even though he liked her because she couldn’t get over her ex) commented on how “society” invents these things.

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      • on April 15, 2012 at 11:05 pm James

        I’m also thinking this was an interesting enough experience that I might just make it a habit of listening in on other people’s private conversations.

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      • on April 16, 2012 at 3:28 pm P Ray

        Can learn a lot about what makes a good relationship (through the body language and words used), by sitting in a fastfood joint for some hours.
        It’s entertaining, and informative – you’ll learn quite a lot (and quickly understand how certain behaviours/words from HER mark you out whether she sees you as a chump (or otherwise) and how certain behaviours/words from YOU mark her out as someone worth spending time with (or not).

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  16. on April 15, 2012 at 11:37 pm Southern Man

    A divorce data point:

    Married sixteen years, three kids, she initiated the divorce with reasons like “I’m bored” and “I don’t love you anymore.” I was a hopeless beta-provider schlub who let her have her way and gave her everything she ever wanted; thanks to this blog I now understand how damaging that was. The bartender she was fucking on the side was not mentioned.

    Our net worth (assets minus debts) was a quarter million dollars – not bad for a couple of teachers where one of them was a spend-o-holic. The bulk was in my retirement accounts, ten acres of unimproved land, and the house. She got half (that is, half our financial assets, the better of anything we had two of, and everything we had one of), including our two-year-old mini-mansion. Fortunately the housing bubble was near its peak and the house was valued rather higher than its purchase price. I got The Land and about half my retirement assets as well as half of HER credit-card debt.

    Within a year she had burned through her divorce cash (50K or so, cashed out of my retirement assets), maxed out her credit cards, and (the housing market having collapsed) lost the house. In spite of child support in an amount sufficient to pay her rent and basic utilities, the kids reported that she couldn’t keep the lights or the cable on. My teen daughter refers to that first year as “you were trying to be a single dad and Mom was just drunk.” A year TO THE DAY of our final day in court she called in tears to announce that she was filing for bankruptcy.

    Today, five years later, MY net worth is back at a quarter million. Hers is zero, at best. Although she had all three kids at first, both teens eventually moved in with me and the youngest is begging to do so right now. She remarried (a beta much like I was) and has a new baby; he’s also divorced and pays child support to his ex. Together they hardly have two nickels to rub together. Our most regular communication is at the end of the month when she texts “did you mail the child support check yet?”

    Who came out better in the long run?

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 4:20 am JCclimber

      The lawyers.

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      • on April 16, 2012 at 11:46 am Southern Man

        LOL! We were going to just mediate but she got scared and lawyered up with a guy famous (at least locally) for going after alimony, so I did as well. In the interview my lawyer identified an asset of hers that I had not, and half the value of that asset more than offset their legal bill. They also made sure that the decree included a clause stipulating how we shared the kid’s tax benefits, which I would have missed. She payed her own lawyer and from what I saw of the bill she payed a lot more than I did and ended up with less than she would have in mediation.

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      • on April 16, 2012 at 12:19 pm Anon

        LOL!

        The ex-wife gets bartender cock, monthly checks for kids that don’t live with her, a new beta hubby, and a new baby.

        The ex-husband loses his money, finally gets back to even (minus monthly checks for kids that his ex don’t even raise), and no mention of the hotter, younger girlfriends he is banging, but considers it coming out on top.

        Let this be a lesson to single guys: In the real world, his situation IS INDEED the best outcome most men can expect from divorce. That’s the sad thing.

        p.s. Here’s a new motto:

        “5 minutes of alpha cock guaranteees a lifetime of beta alimony.”

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      • on April 16, 2012 at 2:32 pm Southern Man

        The bartender dumped her before the ink on the divorce was dry; she was devastated. Apparently she though he was going to sweep her off her feet and marry her. I think he gave her an STD instead. A year of bar-hopping later she settled for what she could get. She only gets support checks for the kids that live with her; it’s down to one now. Yes, it was financially devastating (still is; child support is the biggest check I write every month, and she sure doesn’t spend much of it on our daughter) but I’m almost entirely back on my feet and it won’t be long ’till I have the last kid with me. And, yes, I came out as well as anyone could. The worst part was the first year when she had the kids believing that I was a Bad Man and it was all my fault, while living high on the hog on child support, divorce cash and credit cards. The fall was swift and harsh and humbled her quite a bit. A lot of divorced dads lose their relationships with their kids but as you can see from the earlier post mine came around to my side fairly quickly. And that’s what really matters to me, right there.

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      • on April 16, 2012 at 2:34 pm Southern Man

        And the other worst part was that our college fund got eaten up in the divorce (that account went to her). Most kids of married parents get help going to college; most kids of divorced ones do not. If there’s anything about the divorce that my teen daughter is openly angry about, it’s that.

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      • on April 16, 2012 at 4:05 pm Anon

        1. College is pretty much finishing school for turning American girls into whores.

        Colleges turn out more skill-less, future beneficiaries of divorce court rape than contributing members of society. Check out any liberal arts college loaded with girls.

        Fathers paying for college are just paying for their daughters to ride the cock carousel & drink feminist Kool Aid from academics. They’re also paying professors to stud their daughters.

        2. Is it little wonder that girls grow up and expect some guy to pay for them when their fathers have paid for them every single day of their lives?

        Marriage in America is basically a man financially adopting a girl whose father is no longer financially supporting her.

        But American divorce laws will always punish men because all fathers pretty much want their daughters to eventually marry some hardworking, beta guy who will support them.

        3. “The bartender dumped her before the ink on the divorce was dry; she was devastated. Apparently she though he was going to sweep her off her feet and marry her. I think he gave her an STD instead.”

        Alphas always win.

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      • on April 16, 2012 at 6:19 pm Anon

        Actually, that was the best part.

        Whatever it takes to keep young females away from the so-called colleges, which are nothing more than de facto bordellos (where beta clients are replaced by attractive alphas, but the result is the same: too many cocks inside one juvenile pussy).

        The next step in your alpha transformation is to become a patriarch, and arrange or at least convince your girls to marry an older man in the greater beta-lesser alpha range.

        But that is not easy nowadays and it even required years of planning when patriarchy was still holding the civilizational shit together.
        Whatever the future is holding for your girls, it will probably be better than a cock-carouseling femtard desouling in college.

        Cheer up.

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      • on April 17, 2012 at 5:16 pm King A (Matthew King)

        Anon wrote:

        College is pretty much finishing school for turning American girls into whores.

        Gold.

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      • on April 16, 2012 at 4:50 pm AnonDad

        Your wife fell victim to the hivemind that too many women listen to these days. “Men are bad, husbands even worse – you deserve more, girl, just for being a strong, independent woman, so divorce him!”. Child custody and alimony help make things easy at first, and nobody likes to admit that they don’t know how to manage their own money. In the same vain (sic intended), most people will never admit their own mistakes, especially with something as serious as a divorce. Even so, she learned a hard lesson – that you reap what you sow. I wouldn’t be surprised if she had never learned a hard lesson before in her life.

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      • on April 16, 2012 at 9:22 pm mjay

        Very good. But did you learn your lesson? Have you gotten your vasectomy and are you getting access to young hotties a la carte?

        One hopes so.

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      • on April 17, 2012 at 9:30 am Ben

        Who was the moron that let women rule us? Anything short of suppression is an outrage. Suffrage is beyond words.

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 3:43 pm Anonymous

      Congratulations man,

      As you show, many women FLOUNDER after the divorce. In the long run, the joke is on them. They lose a “good man” – albeit, a man who simply didn’t know enough “game” This is his downfall.

      I know she is the mother of your children, but I hope you are enjoying the fact you won in the end. I hope you are able to put it right back in her face, just a little bit.

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      • on April 16, 2012 at 6:36 pm deaconblues777

        The bigger joke is perhaps on all the women that won’t even find a “good man,” because they’ll see the stories of guys like Southern Man and say “fuck it, let’s go bowling.”

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      • on April 17, 2012 at 3:01 pm chi-town

        The biggest joke is our single mama hero Mz Marvel who spreads and says Jizzaaame! Then we all gotta pay.

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 9:04 pm Ripp

      Southern Man: *fist bump* to you for being a man and sharing your story. What you describe happens all the time these days and it’s only increasing.

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  17. on April 16, 2012 at 12:02 am Anti Blue pill

    Off Topic heartiste but what are your views on bath room game,ie not putting the seat down for tha lazy cunt?

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 9:07 pm Ripp

      In my house I leave it up. At a girl’s house I’m dating/banging I leave it up and tell them to provoke them. At my exes house I piss all over the seat and the floor.

      At any families house I always put the both lids down.*Respect*

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  18. on April 16, 2012 at 12:16 am anonimo

    Can I dwell on the obvious?
    Husbands are demonized if they get frisky w/ another pussy cat HOWEVER
    if a wife gets PHAT (three letters is not enough) and / or
    refuses to please her husband sexually or
    even lie there on a regular basis or
    refuses to let him raise his children in a manly way or
    invites her mother-old-maid-sister(s) into their house or
    turns into a shrew
    NONE of the above items by the wife is viewed by “the state” nor the “community” as grounds for divorce but the husband poontanging is sufficient.
    And of course all women and wimpy men at her job feel sorry for the wife.

    It follows that I do not suggest marriage for young men. I will go as far as suggesting (w/out sarcasm) federal funding for safe and professional vasectomies for men of all ages. Methinks Rush Limbaugh was wrong when he called out that women wanting subsidized birth control.
    Federally funded vasectomies could protect men from paterninty suits and taxpayers from welfare taxes.
    Maybe I should suggest this to Mitt?

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  19. on April 16, 2012 at 12:36 am Grace

    I’ve read about Malloy’s analysis before, which seems reasonable. The point about women experiencing a drop in their standard of living is a stupid one though, if we are talking about divorces with children involved (we are right? since otherwise American divorce tends to be pretty simple).

    You don’t have children. So you don’t know how much they cost, which is a LOT. While toys, clothes, housing (since you need a bigger place) medical care, activities, etc. all add up, the biggest expense for small children is childcare which can easily run thousands monthly.

    Child support doesn’t typically come close to covering these expenses. Most women don’t receive child support anyway (see here for the actual facts: http://www.census.gov/apsd/www/statbrief/sb95_16.pdf). Being a divorced woman with kids usually means being poor.

    This is one of the many reasons divorce screws kids over: either their parents have no money (typically the custodial parent aka mother), or they don’t feel like spending it on the kid anymore (sadly common for fathers). For example, virtually all children with married parents get some kind of help with college; less than a third of kids with divorced parents do.

    People who bitch about financially supporting their own children are disgusting.

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 7:12 am Gramps

      How about those people who:
      1. Have to support another man’s children, by force of law.
      2. How about those single mothers, legions of them, in every urban area, who expect the state to support their children? And the biological fathers of these children? Are they not disgusting? Is this behavior not promoted and subsidized by our govt?

      Why should some guy who gets divorced not adopt the attitude of our urban minority, let the state pay. The state supports everybody else, including illegal aliens. They can support my children (maybe even me, too.)

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      • on April 16, 2012 at 12:09 pm Legion

        @Grace

        Child support is merely a tool for women to remove the Father from his children. NO child support be needed if custody is 50/50 and each household provides their half. Only with rare, high asymmetric earning differences would the argument hold. We’re not back in the 1930’s anymore where women do not have their own careers and income. Save the BS. Women push for physical custody, strip the man of wealth using child support to fund it.

        What’s the matter, can’t hack pulling your half of the load? Well, you can either cut back on the $4 coffee drinks, Macy’s and those fabulous new shoes. Or you can keep playing that victim tune and hope for a sympathetic ear.

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 10:59 am Samuel

      women who take their children away from their fathers are disgusting.

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 12:09 pm Tertullian

      You’re disgusting, Grace.

      And also stupid.

      “Most women don’t receive child support anyway.” Nice way to try and reframe the current state of affairs so that ex-wives look like the victims.

      Whether or not women receive the child support payments to which they are entitled is irrelevant.

      The correct questions — and the only ones that really matter — are:

      1. “How much does the law REQUIRE an ex-husband to pay to his ex-wife in child support?”

      2. “What does the legal system do to ensure that the amount of child support awarded to the ex-spouse actually bears some direct correlation with the cost of raising a child/children?”

      3. “What are the consequences to the ex-husband of his not making those payments?”

      4. “What does the legal system do to ensure the child support payments are actually spent on the children, and not on expenses unrelated to raising a child?”

      Women who bitch about the sense of outrage and injustice most men feel toward the current divorce regime are disgusting. And are probably single moms to boot.

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      • on April 17, 2012 at 2:23 pm Greg Eliot

        The Japanese view children as belonging to the mother… stories of suicide and taking the kids with her are not unknown… and the culture (not being the child-worshiping abomination that is the West) might not applaud that sort of thing, but it is understood.

        Bottom-line… if the kids are hers, then the responsibility is hers… if she don’t want the man anymore, then the man’s responsibility towards the children is likewise diminished.

        If men were men, and learned to harden their hearts to the real and imagined wails of “the children”, and let unappreciative wives know that “if I’m no longer a husband, I’m no longer a father”… then men wouldn’t be in their current purgatory.

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      • on April 17, 2012 at 3:51 pm Lara

        I think that’s a good attitude.

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      • on April 17, 2012 at 4:58 pm Anon

        I have an uncle whose wife had an “affair” (euphemism for another guy’s dick ravaging her wethole and inducing moans and screams of extatic joy…).
        I never talked to him about that, until recently when I became interested in these issues thanks to the chateau and other manosphere blogs.

        He told me he left her, and refused any further contact with her and the kids, who were still young.
        He had and still has to pay of course, big time. But he told me that during their break-up, he told her that he doesn’t consider the kids as his anymore, because he “can’t be sure”.
        I told him there are DNA tests, he responded funnily that “it’s not about that”… and of course I understood what he meant.

        I’m not surprised because the guy is a paper alpha, not really good at picking up ladies, but he has the soul of a leader.
        I like his attitude, and it matches what you’re saying. But now he went mgtow, without knowing about the movement. I told him about this blog, but he’s not much of a reader.

        It’s a noble way to proceed, if your wife betrays you. But it requires a cold heart and sociopathic tendencies. I think I can do the same. He’s my uncle after all.

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  20. on April 16, 2012 at 4:24 am Flip

    Here’s what happens to married men in Colorado…

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 10:57 am Samuel

      I live in Colorado. This happened to me almost verbatim.

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      • on April 17, 2012 at 3:34 pm John Salt

        Does anyone know of a list (or some other type of resource) for *non-muslim* countries with the most male-friendly marriage laws?

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 11:53 am KillerQ

      That f-ing sucks and is so wrong at so many levels. F-ing bitch.

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 12:46 pm corvinus

      Colorado is also the most Democrat state in the interior West, except for heavily Hispanic New Mexico.

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 12:54 pm noway@jose.com

      Oh, young men, this will not happen to *you*! You are special, and you will choose wisely. The woman you marry would never “Eat, Pray, Love” you like that poor bastard. Nope, not you.

      But believe me, guys, you see this out there: late-thirties to early-fifties guys getting totally creamed by the court system, all at a woman’s whim. Guys you know will go from good dad, attentive husband and such to flat-on-his-ass cuckold thrown out of his house.

      Meanwhile, the Thug Boyfriend wifey is now sexing has his feet up on the couch in the old family home, hollering at the kids, and spending the husband’s money, while the ex-wife excitedly titters next to him about the thug sex she will get later that night. Sex the kids get to hear every night, mind you.

      But you are a special unicorn, and your love is a special rainbow, and you will avoid this, right? lol

      No marriage, young men, ever. If you want kids, have them with a woman who makes her own wages. No stay-at-home-mom shit. Ever. Keep yourself in a business where your hours are flexible and your money is often in cash. Don’t be a W-2 employee past age 32. Once you are “on the grid” as a cubicle wage slave, you have no options in a divorce.

      If you are already married and have kids, if she starts hanging out with bitter divorced women, going to clubs for a “girls night out”, talking shit to you in any way, you need to prepare. Dump your cubicle job, immediately. Make her get a job if she doesn’t have one. Find a small cash business to buy, where you can hide income. Then game the hell out of her.

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 3:39 pm PR

      fyi young men, my best friend pays child support to his ex-wife for a child that is hers and her current husband’s. he’s a slave, by law. how could this be? fuck you, that’s how.

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 6:02 pm PIATTI

      nothing to say ..no doubt no mercy ..30 06 time ..judge and wife ..period

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      • on April 17, 2012 at 2:37 pm Greg Eliot

        Agreed… and I bet it would only take a few dozen men to have the courage to do this and the “system” would start reconsidering their treatment of men… or cracking down totally… a win in either case for “the Revolution”.

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 6:04 pm Anon

      Sickening.

      Although it’s a dumb move to lose your temper in court (dude was locked up for contempt), the only smart move that remains for men is to avoid the primary cause of this ordeal, ie the M word.

      I don’t know how H is gonna try to convince some of us to reconsider marriage, but I read enough horror stories like this one to make my own opinion.

      Born and raised in denver, colorado. This video fucked up my evening.

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      • on April 17, 2012 at 1:38 am mjay

        He was booked for contempt for not paying an amount of money greater than he had, not for losing his temper.

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      • on April 17, 2012 at 3:29 pm Samuel

        I didn’t lose my temper either. I kissed the female judge’s ass. Went to jail for contempt over money, not for insulting the court. The court just “acts” insulted, asserting contempt, because we have “refused” its order to pay. Gimme a fuckin break.

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      • on April 18, 2012 at 4:16 pm Glengarry

        The law in its impartial majesty put H. Beatty Chadwick in prison for fourteen years for contempt. Because his ex-wife thought he was holding out on him. Released in 2009.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._Beatty_Chadwick

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      • on April 18, 2012 at 4:21 pm Glengarry

        Here’s more: http://old.post-gazette.com/pg/09192/983301-454.stm#ixzz0L9AN7EEa&C

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    • on April 17, 2012 at 6:29 am moses

      That guy is pretty beta. Just sayin.

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      • on April 17, 2012 at 2:30 pm Greg Eliot

        Yeah, he says “Okay” and “Thank You” too much to the screws.

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    • on April 17, 2012 at 9:39 am Ben

      This video needs to be seen by every man. Post it everywhere.

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    • on April 17, 2012 at 2:31 pm Greg Eliot

      This smells more like the judge (who he ‘dissed’, apparently) wanted to teach him a lesson.

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    • on April 17, 2012 at 3:21 pm Anon

      Can I get a reasonable explanation for what happened to this guy?

      I know that justice can have its kafkaesque moments, but shit, there’s gotta be something else if he can clearly justify his resources. Under no law that I heard of, a man is forced to pay 100% of his income to an ex-wife.
      Was he suspected of hiding assets. Or something?

      I mean, I’m not considering marriage anyway, I’m leaving that dumbfuck institution for bluepill guys who never heard of female hypergamy. Even in its mildest iron clad prenup form, marriage sucks if you’re not destitute and your wife is a billionaire.

      But… what the fuck happened to this guy? Where was his lawyer jerking off during his trial or court session or whatever the fuck modern male slaves must attend?

      I’m not really into MRA literature, and I’m sure there are similar cases. But WTF?

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  21. on April 16, 2012 at 4:39 am Mexican Pete

    With a recession ongoing, the incarceration rate of so-called “dead-beat dads” has skyrocketed.

    Consider this all-too-common case:
    You have a well-paid job, and are made unemployed. You are unable to pay support at previous levels. If you’ve a mean baby momma and a judge with indigestion, you’re looking at a stay in County jail

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  22. on April 16, 2012 at 6:13 am danielantinora

    People who bitch about financially supporting their own children are disgusting.

    Oh really? Have your kids ever been violently torn from you by an “impartial” court system?

    I think you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.

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  23. on April 16, 2012 at 6:51 am moses

    Off topic.

    The mainstream media is going nuts over these Secret Service guys in Columbia. “They should be dismissed immediately!” “Unprofessional conduct!” Blah blah blah.

    So these guys partied on their own time with women who are paid for their services. These dudes put their lives on the line for the clown Obama, of course they want to blow off steam in a masculine, time honored way. Yes, and?

    This “scandal” is really about the feminist controlled media and, by extension, white knight politicians being threatened by prostitution allowing men a no-fuss alternative to shrill American shrew pussy monopoly.

    Please. I live in Asia. People here don’t bat an eye at this kind of thing. From over here America looks like a nuthouse.

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 3:23 pm P Ray

      “Please. I live in Asia. People here don’t bat an eye at this kind of thing.”
      You can bet in election years these kind of things get prominence, people are people everywhere and a sex scandal will change some voter’s minds.

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  24. on April 16, 2012 at 8:59 am LP 999

    RIGHT ON! SCREAM IT FROM THE ROOFTOPS!

    Divorces promote poverty for women and children. This avoidable problem is usually b/c the wife wants out, everything the husband has worked for will be divided by vultures. End of story.

    And few men want a divrced women where he has to tolerate the ex as some point.

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  25. on April 16, 2012 at 9:12 am Opus

    The courts seek to place both parties in the same position as if they had not become divorced. This is of course impossible, and at first both parties suffer. The woman, especially if she is unemployed, close to hitting the wall and burdoned with one or more children, will find it difficult to return to the freedom and income she had as a single woman. The man does badly too, but if he is working his wages may
    increase and across time – I am thinking decades – he is likely to recover far better than the woman. In the meanwhile the calibre of the men the woman can attract sinks ever lower. The older a woman is, the less sensible she is to institute divorce proceedings.

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  26. on April 16, 2012 at 9:39 am Other

    “get all the love and sex and intimacy without the legal Dame-ocles sword swinging over your head.”
    But there’s one thing you haven’t realized. You’ve wisely seen that beauty, and truth, and knowledge, and race, and intelligence are all real and objective. But you still cling to a leftist/subjectivist view of what a good life is; that you can make your own rules on what a good life is. In this way your’re like a fatty who decides to believe that beauty is socially constructed and so she will have her own standards of beauty. No matter how you cut it, the meaning of life is to reproduce and if you don’t you are a loser as a member of this, or any other, species. You’ve failed as a living thing. You don’t get to decide the standards of life any more than you get to make up the standards of beauty or truth.

    [heartiste: the meaning of life is to fuck, not to reproduce. the distinction is critical. reproduction is the inevitable result of fucking in the state of nature (pre-contraception).]

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 4:14 pm Maya

      “heartiste: the meaning of life is to fuck”

      best thing u ever said. ❤

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      • on April 16, 2012 at 8:00 pm Anon

        And yet it’s a thing you’ll never do.

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      • on April 17, 2012 at 11:30 am Maya

        I will.

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      • on April 17, 2012 at 3:19 pm chi-town

        May or Maya not.

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      • on April 17, 2012 at 9:40 am Ben

        An idiot like you will take that seriously. Fuck I wish I could smack you and others like you.

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 11:53 pm Anonymous

      No, that’s just your particular evolutionary strategy. The meaning of life is still to reproduce.

      [heartiste: the meaning of your *gene’s* life is to reproduce, you are merely a vessel programmed to enjoy fucking so that your genes’ objectives are reached. sorry if this bothers you. not.]

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      • on April 17, 2012 at 5:47 am Emma the Emo

        There is no objective meaning to life that we know of. Everyone makes their own meaning. But what we find meaningful with our feelings is partially biologically determined. For some people it’s fucking, for some it’s children. It doesn’t really matter, we’ll probably die out one day anyway.

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      • on April 17, 2012 at 6:14 pm King A (Matthew King)

        Aaaand, that’s all, folks. The end-point of Heartiste’s practically applied nihilism. Heartiste is a unintentional parrot of the positivists and existentialists, and Emma is a parrot of a parrot. What’s amusing is that this cut-rate, freshman-year postmodernism is regarded by its accidental purveyors as the apex of “freedom.”

        My progression went from catechism, Western liberalism (Machiavelli, Hobbes, Locke), Ayn Rand, Nietzsche, Strauss, and then back to catechism. I was lucky. It strikes me as particularly tragic to see otherwise promising minds stuck in one phase or another I too struggled to transcend, or off on some shiny tangent that ultimately must lead them into the mental cul-de-sac that constitutes the furthest reach of their exploration. The scientism and hedonism that form their most profound thinking is some kind of joyless, remedial attempt at finding joy in the midst of a philosophy that can only deliver despair.

        But whenever we necessarily take the conversation to this level, Heartiste starts whistling past the graveyard on the way to the apocalyptic poolside. It’s sad. But for a few tweaks in his progression, he might have conquered the horror at the center of his modus vivendi, rather than pretending it doesn’t exist like a frightened child in the dark.

        Still more amusing: we faithful are the ones accused of inventing fairy tales to avoid staring into the abyss! Operationally, by their very inability to diagnose the problem, and by their refusal to adopt language to even speak about the problem, the nihilists are the ones who have proved to be running scared from shadows. Yeah, we all know “The horror, the horror,” any sentient human being is acquainted with it. We don’t need an explanation for that. We need an explanation of the hope that persists despite the horror: The unconfined joy at the sheer contemplation of our existence, the something that exists rather than the nothing we are cursed to occasionally ponder. All you got is: that’s a trick of the genes fooling you so they might prosper. Well, then who are these genetic superiors who trump the heavenly cognizance of self, or even the wonder and awe of fucking?

        Your counsels are contradictory because no one can keep up the pretenses of nihilism. One moment you call us slaves, the next you claim we are free. The novices approach the guru and plead, “What is the meaning of life?” and the most you can give them is an answer to a question they didn’t ask, namely, what is the goal of our genes, who rule us like tyrants and fool us with feelies like dumb bodies hooked into a Matrix of total illusion. You have told them the meaning of life is slavery to the double-helix, but cheer up! Fucking feels good.

        “Life is about fucking” is the rallying cry of the drunk, frat-boy simpleton seen crying the morning after. You don’t proclaim a way of life, just the episodic impressions of reports carefully preselected for their positive value without ever considering the possibility of ill-consequence. That makes yours an immature approach, a constantly moving target that lacks comprehensiveness. Your people are thirsty and you give them gall.

        Matt

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      • on April 18, 2012 at 2:31 am emmatheemo

        That’s all very interesting, but you still didn’t provide any arguments against anything. Just because you might not like that life has no meaning (and there is no evidence that it does), doesn’t mean you have to despair over it. I don’t despair over it. Heartiste probably doesn’t. But you possibly might, since you concluded aknowledging the facts inevitably leads to nihilism. I kind of like that life has no rigid meaning, I’m free to make my own and do what I can and what I want. It’s only depressing if you can’t think outside the box.

        You can keep your beliefs, but the moment you (or that guy who said life’s meaning was reproduction) try to shame us into accepting them, we’ll have to tell you to back off a little bit. I mean, thanks for sharing, but no thanks.

        All I was saying that not having kids might make you a reproductive loser, but your species might end up a loser itself (likely in the long run), so it really doesn’t matter, YOU don’t lose anything (especially if you’ll be dead and won’t enjoy presence of your kids).

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      • on April 19, 2012 at 12:58 pm King A (Matthew King)

        I have long since learned not to argue with women over the existentialist thinking they suckled down with their mother’s milk, but you caught me in a frisky mood, Red.

        Cogitate on this. “[L]ife has no rigid meaning, I’m free to make my own and do what I can and what I want” is itself a posited statement. The true agnostic must ask: “But how do you know such a presumption is true?” and then operate as if it is possible it were not true, i.e., to proceed in light of our ultimate ignorance until such “evidence that it does” exist presents itself.

        This is basic Socratic philosophy 101. And fun as it is to introduce know-it-alls to ancient asked-and-answered wisdom they somehow missed among their elementary-school lessons about Native American Genocide, The Plight of the Sharecroppers, and Marie Curie’s contributions to physics, there really is no talking to you at this stage in your brain’s development. Your mind is shut up like an old attic, more convinced in your faith in the Nihil than even I am about God.

        ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

        There is the cornerstone to the edifice of knowledge, sister. Build upon it. Discover the wisdom of Socratic ignorance. It is the only path up from the slough of despond you can just barely detect, or even consciously admit to.

        Matt

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      • on April 19, 2012 at 2:06 pm Emma the Emo

        Ok, I’ll be more precise: I said there is no objective meaning to life THAT WE KNOW OF. I should have repeated it in the reply as well, so that you would get it. There might be an objective meaning for it, but there is no evidence for it, so for practical reasons only I say there is none. If we end up learning there is objective meaning, I will accept it. For now, there is nothing indicating it, so I might as well make my own. I don’t worry about objective meaning of life the same way I don’t worry about god, spirits or anything else we can’t prove or disprove.

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      • on April 19, 2012 at 2:51 pm That Guy

        Matt,

        You labor in the dark, embrace the light!

        It is with profound horror that I read:
        “My progression went from catechism, Western liberalism (Machiavelli, Hobbes, Locke), Ayn Rand, Nietzsche, Strauss, and then back to catechism.”

        Here you were a young man on a journey, a quest for knowledge and wisdom, and you failed, you lost, then retreated to infantile dogma as a succor from the bright light of reality – that’s very sad.

        Of course, misery loves company, and in your misery, you lash out emotionally and ineffectively at happier people, and try to drag them into your lair of darkness and despair.

        You seem to have missed some clues along the way, like that Constantine only adopted Xtianity as a way to CONTROL the populace of a growing Roman empire. Yes, Religion = Control. You give up though, rationality and some physical pleasures (sex usually), and in return are fed a bland pablum of religious gruel… how bitter that must taste!

        Meanwhile those of us who can embrace reality and are rational, can see that humans are merely “gene-bags” (c), and like Heartiste says, we are programmed to do our gene’s destiny. the function of all life forms is simply to do that which aids begetting more of the same life form – anything else is poppycock. Humans, as a branch of the Great Apes, have experienced runaway sexual selection for larger brains, which were selected for in Males as a means to entrance females.

        I’m a hard Atheist and friends and family would describe me as either “Happy” or “Very Happy”. I don’t suffer the fears you have, I don’t mumble magic spells to spaghetti monsters that your kind must indulge in. I am as free of control as I can be – this is my choice. You have chosen the path of controlled misery. So you’ve made your bed, and now must lie in it.

        Mind you, I’m not against religion per se – I think it has utility for those who otherwise can’t think for themselves, or are irrational. So if you number in this group, then mea culpa.

        Of course as religion has faded in the modern West, the modern emporers/elite generally look to the Media to fill the void of religion. Therefore, I applaud Heartiste’s magnum opus that this site is, that he has the balls to stand tall against the forces of darkness and engage in virtual hand-to-hand combat with Marxist-Feminists and naysayers of all ilk.

        This blog is life affirming, whether you like it or not.

        BTW, how am I doing impersonating your Mock-Heroic style?

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      • on April 21, 2012 at 6:00 pm King A (Matthew King)

        That Guy, you regard the “dogma” as “infantile” because your deepest exposure to it was as an infant. That’s like thinking T-Ball is the greatest expression of baseball because that’s when you last participated in it.

        I don’t begrudge your bravado or naked declarations of freedom. I just think they’re unbecoming a mature human being. Here’s the difference, sapling. I have been where you have been. You haven’t seen what I have seen. I was once spinning around the same jetty where you are now. If you’re smart, you eventually get nauseated by the stagnation. If you “otherwise can’t think for [yourself],” you begin to call that nausea “happiness.” I can report back down to the Platonic cave the wonders you’re missing beyond the wall of flickering shadows, but I can’t make you move. C’est la vie.

        Look at it this way, and think of plain probabilities. Do I really strike you as someone who was “on a journey, a quest for knowledge and wisdom, and … failed … lost, then retreated”? I am familiar with all the little nuggets and aphorisms you call wisdom: I’ll cite them up and down and all day long while you’re still Wikiing the reference.

        You consider your fourth-hand bumper-sticker philosophies adequate because they satisfy the curiosity of a certain type of mind: the one who gathers only the kind of evidence that flatters his childish sense of self-righteousness. One day I grew up and began entertaining the possibility that I was not in fact a god. I saw what all those assertions of independence for what they really were — the insecurities of the young who can’t possibly factor his mortality into his calculations for life, and who thinks his personal “rage, rage against the dying of the light” means squat in the general scheme of the universe.

        The difference between dupes like you and people like me is a simple one. I acknowledge my limits. I correct for them. I work within them. You are still so insecure that you think recognizing boundaries is tantamount to premature capitulation. In fact, a cold-eyed acceptance of one’s limits is the only path to freedom. You think you’re free simply by never thinking of what curtails your freedom, like believing you can fly by never “accepting” the law of gravity.

        And Emma, love, don’t hurt your pretty little head thinking too hard on these matters. I suspect you are on the cusp of no return — mid-to-late 20s? My cut-off year by policy is age 25, but even that’s pushing it. The youthful malleability eventually begins calcifying like arteriosclerosis, the “heart hardens,” and you ride out the rest of your days on the conclusions, right or wrong, you acquired in your developing years. With tremendous effort and vigilance I can browbeat the truth into a woman, but why bother? The naïve belief in in crystals and astrology is dangerous in men, cute in a girl, and repulsive in an aging woman.

        The best you can hope for is to find a strong enough man with the patience to be your personal Übermensch, who will supply your empty head with enough doctrine to survive the natural female reversion to credulity in the modern absence of restraint. But again, who with the capacity would bother?

        Oh, that’s right — one with the capacity and a divine command to love the weak might suffer enough of your female ineptitude to give you deliverance. You have no earthly idea that, in a world without Christianity you unconsciously advocate, people like you are fodder and chattel and objects of mere amusement of the strong. It’s your lucky millennium that some of us with the ability (and often the acute desire) to crush you and move on are stopped short by the very proscriptions you so preciously attempt to undermine in that nibbling, mousey-cute way of yours.

        Matt

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      • on April 27, 2012 at 4:11 pm That Guy

        Matt,

        My point went over your head… it was, do not proselytize here, it’s unwarranted and unwanted.

        Keep your girly emotions (aka Christianity/bible speak) to yourself, and try growing a nutsack.

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    • on April 18, 2012 at 2:36 pm no magic pills

      sorry bro, you aren’t making sense…

      I as a living thing would like to impregnate every pretty woman i see….conversations are a turn off…..as are relationships….i want to rape and ravish and slay my enemies, am i failing at life if i don’t do this?

      1-2 kids in a world of 6 billion is nothing, especially if they turn out to be losers. even genghis khan is still just a dead man, he didn’t manage to transcend his humanity.

      That dude in colarado is living the life of a big loser, but i’m sure he’s kept warm at night by the thought that he’s not really a big loser because he has kids, and not his big tattood bearded cellmate…

      find the lord my friend, theres a hole in your soul, that reproduction will not fill.

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  27. on April 16, 2012 at 10:17 am Rollo Tomassi

    Be careful, I have a feeling Susan Walsh will be along any minute now with a whole slew of statistics and evidentiary studies to prove that it is in fact men and their insatiable libidos who are the villainous purveyors of divorce culture in today’s world,..

    Any minute now,…

    Uh,..really soon,…you’ll see,..

    Uhm?,..she got to be very thorough, these things take time,….

    (Dalrock, will you go see where she is?)

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  28. on April 16, 2012 at 10:47 am Blessent

    Another study: Women more moral than men.* http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2130291/Why-women-moral-especially-theyre-30.html

    *When they are over 30-years-old, i.e. when they’re options close down.

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 2:57 pm Holden Caulfield

      Written by a woman of course. . .I wonder if the raw data has this spin on it.

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  29. on April 16, 2012 at 10:54 am Samuel

    Women are going to find that men will reject this divorce theft, and will collapse willingly (as opposed to at least resisting it a while) just to make sure that the ex-wife experiences as much drop-off as possible in her life (even though his children will suffer for it… its inevitable anyway)

    A dejected beta often finds his balls once she casts them out of her purse, and even if still-wimpy and passive aggressive, its not uncommon for ANY man to buckle down and refuse further slavery.

    If a woman’s circumstances deteriorate after divorce, it is often going to be because she put him in jail (debtors prison) for not paying money, and she underestimated his capacity for telling her NO, and her decline is by her own hand, as she actively destroys the man and sets him back to the stone age, overplaying her hand of extortion.

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  30. on April 16, 2012 at 12:59 pm GeishaKate

    @ danielantinora: No, I didn’t kidnap the child. He did eventually request 50% custody and he was not granted it.

    General comment: Divorces must be filed with a court, but they can be entirely managed out of court. Custody agreements can also be made outside of court and then filed. Only if there is an issue will it be brought to “mediation,” which takes place in a small meeting room- not a courtroom. The concern with mediation is that if the parents do not agree on a custody schedule, the court makes the ultimate decision. It would seem far better for the parents to make these decisions on their own instead of having an unrelated third party decide how people should run their lives.

    It is also signficant to note that financial settlements and custody agreements are two separate entities and while a financial settlement is a one time deal and can never be altered, custody agreements (at least in my state) can be brought to mediation whenever either party feels like it.

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 2:12 pm danielantinora

      Why didn’t you make those decisions on your own!?

      If he wanted 50% and didn’t get it you have successfully kidnapped the kids with the help of the court. Even ifs you gave him 50% you’ve still kidnapped 50% of them.

      You are the problem.

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  31. on April 16, 2012 at 1:30 pm Maya

    “Most women underestimate just how much men crave variety. A hot girlfriend won’t stop a guy from wanting to bang a fresh hottie. 17 minutes ago”

    VERY good news for me. I want to be your next fresh hottie.

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 2:30 pm Maya

      Hope your girlfriend won’t mind. I’m like 100% sure we’ll have sex sometime in the future.

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 4:02 pm James

      Heartiste is wrong. If that was true oneitis would not be so prevalent. I view it like addiction: the more you get the more you want. The average beta male (which is the majority of the population) is usually fine with just 1 woman.

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      • on April 16, 2012 at 9:32 pm Ripp

        “The average beta male (which is the majority of the population) is usually fine with just 1 woman.”

        [heartiste: one point that gets lost in these sorts of assertions is the false premise that beta males (and females) are acting with unconstrained choice. but that’s not the case. most beta males have limited options, so when they say they are fine with one woman we can deduce that this is a rationalization of that restricted choice. this conclusion is easily reached when we observe what happens to men who suddenly come into increased sexual market options (by, for example, becoming famous): they start sleeping around and/or trading up to younger/hotter lovers.]

        Reframe:
        The average beta male (which is the majority of the population) is [complacent] with just 1 woman [because he/they lack the skill set to create an abundance of sexual options].

        Oneitis is prevalent for the reason aforementioned.

        Beta men “settle” with a woman that is on the decline (or at least early decline, hopefully) of her sexual market value. The woman realizes her capabilities to entice alpha males are waning. This forces her hypergamous inclinations to respond to reality and if a family is desired, so is a Beta Provider Male. In essence, she chooses the beta. And this opportunity for the beta is the BEST OPTION he has for long term sustained pussy.

        Possessing the skill set to consistently meet new women and seduce them to sex [GAME] is rare in men.

        Would a beta man who magically gains this skill set overnight still experience ONEITIS? (rhetorical).

        Sorry James. Your GF isn’t that hot and you have some homework to do.

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  32. on April 16, 2012 at 2:08 pm Divorce for Dads

    One statistic not covered for who initiates divorce in a marriage is the proactive filing by men.

    This is not common, but I don’t think it’s so uncommon as to ignore. If you are at a point where you’re talking to a lawyer, since they know the odds stacked against a father, they will suggest that you file first, as it puts you in a slightly better position than before.

    Coming out the other end, this reads as a divorce initiated by the father, but it’s done as a protective measure, not from any real desire.

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  33. on April 16, 2012 at 2:21 pm Lara

    CH asks: “Are you any good at this?”

    Girl should answer: “No, not really, let’s just play Scrabble or something.”

    [heartiste: no girl would answer that way once across the boudoir pubicon, even if she thinks she should. but in the event something so unlikely were to occur, a simple reply would be: “scrabble is something i play with my sister. are you my sister?”]

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 2:47 pm Lara

      That would be a good response. I’d probably just answer, “No”.

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      • on April 16, 2012 at 2:59 pm Maya

        If CH asked me “Are you any good at this?” I would also answer “No”, because I really am no good but then I’d show him everything I ever wanted to do with him. At the end, he’d probably be very positively surprised.

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      • on April 16, 2012 at 4:30 pm That Guy

        “At the end, he’d probably be very positively surprised.”

        I’m sure he would be VERY SURPRISED… a la The Crying Game.

        Maya I’m convinced you are a gay man…

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      • on April 16, 2012 at 5:27 pm Maya

        Of course I will cry at the end … this is not even game. I thought it’s normal.

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      • on April 16, 2012 at 6:08 pm Maya

        All people cry after sex … I think.

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      • on April 17, 2012 at 9:41 am Ben

        You would after sex with me. I would break that arrogance of yours. Trust me.

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      • on April 17, 2012 at 3:21 pm Maya

        Sure, Ben. But you and me will never have sex. I will just go with my gut and sleep with CH. Can’t wait.

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      • on April 17, 2012 at 4:02 pm Lara

        Didn’t your mom ever teach you about playing hard to get? Let CH pursue you.

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      • on April 17, 2012 at 5:14 pm Maya

        Lara, my mom didn’t teach me anything useful about the opposite sex. I agree that it’s a good thing if you can play hard to get. But I can’t. I’m not hard to get. I’m very easy.

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      • on April 18, 2012 at 4:54 pm Glengarry

        “After coitus, every animal is sad except the rooster and the human female.”

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      • on April 17, 2012 at 2:44 pm Greg Eliot

        I’m already in tears.

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      • on April 16, 2012 at 4:58 pm Anon

        Would you lick his ass?

        If the answer is no, then you’re not as good as you think.

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      • on April 16, 2012 at 5:28 pm Maya

        I think I would eat his whole body.

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      • on April 16, 2012 at 10:02 pm Anon

        H, you should start charging this bitch.
        She’s getting the equivalent of phone sex sessions for free.

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      • on April 19, 2012 at 11:25 pm Spiralina

        “I think I would eat his whole body.”

        Maya, you are the best troll EVER. I mean that sincerely, as a compliment. At first your comments annoyed me but now I’m kind of in awe.

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 2:53 pm Tmason

      [heartiste: no girl would answer that way once across the boudoir pubicon, even if she thinks she should. but in the event something so unlikely were to occur, a simple reply would be: “scrabble is something i play with my sister. are you my sister?]

      Or, per Mystery Method style LTR short-circuiting: Make her get the scrabble board out (not you, of course) while in the bedroom and then recue up the sexual innuendo during the game itself. When you get her all worked up make her take her cloths off per words you make in the game.

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      • on April 16, 2012 at 8:37 pm James

        And when she’s all moist and ready to go grab your shit and go home.

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    • on April 17, 2012 at 1:13 am crumpetess

      Q: Are you any good at this, or not?
      A: You’re my king.

      The end.

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  34. on April 16, 2012 at 2:33 pm That Guy

    Totally Off-Topic, but interesting:

    Pheromone Parties – let your dirty T-Shirt snag you a date!

    http://gizmodo.com/5900458/pheromone-parties-where-dirty-t+shirts-get-you-laid

    I’ve been told appreciatively that I smell like a horse on more than one occasion, which I guess is the result of my high-T sweat and Old Spice Classic – the only deodorant I’ve ever used…

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  35. on April 16, 2012 at 3:23 pm LL Beans

    Also off-topic:

    New York Jets star fathers TEN children with EIGHT different women…just one more and he’ll be able to field his own football team

    Daily Mail: http://bit.ly/HAxgn2

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  36. on April 16, 2012 at 3:42 pm Stuki

    “…need to get a grip on the fact that the family court system is arrayed against men’s interests…”

    Against SOME men’s interests. Not against the interests of the lawyers, taxfeeders and other fellow travelers who man and enable it. Nor against the interests of the rabble who gets to preen around whoring for the female vote by expressing support for it.

    The problem is not how the family court system is arrayed. It is that the family court system exists. As a prerequisite to win a war, it is necessary to fight the right battles. Exchanging tax feeding thug A for tax feeding thug B, because B proclaims adherence to beliefs slightly different from A, still leaves you stuck kowtowing to some tax feeding thug.

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  37. on April 16, 2012 at 3:45 pm Lara

    If I were to get a divorce, my current standard of living would drop. However, compared to what I could have provided for myself, I would still be in a much better financial situation. It would be the opposite case for my husband.

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 4:30 pm Somboed

      This isn’t about you (sigh).

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 5:11 pm That Guy

      Lara,
      Don’t even think about it!

      Which reminds me that last year one of my wife’s friends was divorcing and got my wife thinking about such things. So she’s trying to get me to discuss it with her, but I’m not remotely interested, and so she says:

      Wife: “But what if I said that I’d divorce you, and I was going to leave, what would you do”
      Me: “I’d open the door for you!”
      Wife: “No, be serious – what would you do?”
      Me: “I’M TOTALLY SERIOUS…”
      Wife (surprised): “But what about the kids, you love them and if I were ever to divorce, I would probably get custody, then what?”
      Me: “I wouldn’t fight for custody, you can keep the kids – I’ll have more!” (smirk)
      Wife: “Fine, but wouldn’t you be upset about me leaving?”
      Me: “Yes… FOR ABOUT 24 HOURS… or till I had a new younger, hotter, chic to spend some “quality” time with! (wide grin)
      Wife: “I CAN’T BELIEVE THAT! … you are COOOLD!!!” (mad as hell)

      Later that evening, as expected, wifey was especially HOTTT during sex, as if her life depended on it…

      The moral of the story:
      If your wife/girl challenges you on anything fundamental like leaving, divorce, custody, you gotta go full on “Keyser Söze” on her ass, and she’ll thank you for it!

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      • on April 17, 2012 at 4:03 pm chi-town

        I am a sucker for love but not a sucker for anyone who does not love me back. It makes my skin crawl to see someone beg for someone who wants to walk out. As soon as she wants out I’d ring for the concierge.

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  38. on April 16, 2012 at 4:01 pm OG_MB

    Christ, after reading this site and Roosh V’s for about a year now, my already skeptic and overly negative nature has been cranked into overdrive. As a recovering life long oblivious beta, knowing what I know now about the nature of women and my role (or lack thereof) in this awful feminized society that shits on its providers has rendered my soul completely dead. Add to this fact that when I started making the attempted transition from beta to alpha by learning game, finally started seeing some success/positive feedback from women, and eventually slept with a few of them I got fucking herpes. I was wearing a condom, and I got it on the area not covered. So now I find my confidence torn down and I don’t know what the fuck to do. Every site out there offering advice to people in this situation is beta poison “you will find someone who truly luvs you for who you are.” Knowing what I know now about Western women I harbor no illusions about finding “the one” and settling down, which is masculine suicide.

    Evidently the Chateau’s proper response to feminism and Western bitches is the Pump N Dump, which for me would be an infection spree. So here I am stuck, fucked, knowing I’ll never find a loving, feminine woman in the states but still wanting to sow oats. I can’t even flirt with women or hear friends talk about banging many different girls now without feeling burning resentment that I can’t do the same thing and just fucking enjoy life. I also can’t talk to anyone about this shit so it just boils inside me. I do what I can to stay positive (exercise, hobbies, friends) but I have spent the majority of my life cut off from women due to ignorance, and now that I have the knowledge I can’t even use it.

    Apologies for the personal rant but this is something I never see discussed on these types of sites but has to be more common with so many women and men sleeping around and breaking commitments. Just looking for any suggestion to help me from becoming a completely negative bitter asshole.

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 6:00 pm Holden Caulfield

      Step one: get past the completely negative bitter asshole part.
      Step two: game higher quality chicks without being outcome dependent
      Step three: enjoy life. women love a dude that is confident, enjoys life, and doesn’t give a fuck about what they think.
      Step four: once you’re successful with women, pass on your advice to other dudes that feel like you feel now. we’ve all been there to some degree at one point or another

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 7:28 pm Samuel

      I once met a super-smoking hot chick who told me she had herpes (and almost used some flimsy excuse to bail on me instead of telling me) Well, I got her to tell me. We did not end up dating bc she was a major gym rat and I am not a big buff dude… could not compete with the Guidos… plus she wanted kids and mine are grown. She just got engaged to a military dude who looks happy as a clam. (she is srsly HOT)

      Don’t use your situation as an excuse and declare all hope lost. You can still find a VERY good situation for yourself. Yeah, it would be better without that setback, but press on, my friend. You can have a great sex life yet.

      Bonus: these chicks are easier to lock down because straying is a diff game for them. You might even dare to love one of those crazy girlz…

      Don’t lose hope, man.

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 8:18 pm Anon

      Isn’t herpes hsv-1 like shared by 70% of the world population? The nasty form hsv-2 is around 20%.

      Fuck it. I’m saying everybody got herpes. You’re just shit out of luck if the symptoms are visible on you, it means that your immune system is not as strong as it should be (or there might be something else, the fuck I know, i’m not a doctor).
      The best thing you can do is to reinforce your immune system by eating extra healthy, training well, rest adequately… It’s the only thing you can do to fight nasty viruses.
      If you’re lucky, the herpes rashes might be attenuated or completely disappear.

      Cheer up, you’re still in the game.

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 8:50 pm Insight

      What you have described is a normal stage of the process. Digesting the red pill is not easy or quick.

      Keep plowing. You will reach acceptance. Don’t stop now, or you will be stuck in a terrible state.

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 9:59 pm Ripp

      Your in a common phase of the RED PILL digestion.

      As the knowledge flows through your blood stream and your analytic sense becomes more aware during social activity it’s common your frustration increases since reality confirms the knowledge.

      Perfectly normal bro, don’t trip on it.

      Here is the beauty: Once you start working on your GAME skills you become the selector. You learn how to apply a matrix of qualifiers to your women (not because you want to, but because you have to, there is only so much time in the universe) to decide whether you want to see her (or see her again) and what type of behavior she deserves from you. How much assholery, etc.

      I developed what I call a RELATIONSHIP QUALITY ASSESSMENT [RQA: a 1 to 8 scale]. At each time step and based on her behavior she goes up or down on it and I respond accordingly. [1] = cum guzzling whore and she gets 1 meet. I spend NO MONEY on her and after that one and only meet I will never communicate with her again, regardless of sexual activity. [8] = marriage material. To give some perspective: since July 2011 I have been keeping my RQA. Out all of the women since I have NEVER met a qualified 8. And met only one 7. [7] = LTR material.

      Please note RQA and SMV are not directly correlated.

      My overall point here is that GOOD WOMEN do exist. They are just very, very rare. I’m talking about a young (18 to 25yrs), healthy and beautiful (SMV 8+) woman that still has traditional FEMININE characteristics: is polite, sweet, secure and doesn’t show HYPERGAMOUS natures in her behavior.

      It takes some work to find them. But here is the best part: While you’re searching for a woman of RQA 7 or 8 (LTR or marriage material) you get to nail dozens and dozens of hot slutty hypergamous women in the interim. And it’s a whole shit ton of fun.

      While the knowledge is daunting and frustrating at first, realize how INVALUABLE it is. Since women are hypergamous and will always want the HIGHER VALUE male, become the higher value male.

      GAME teaches you how to do this.

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      • on April 17, 2012 at 12:21 am Anonymous

        “GAME teaches you how to do this.”

        No, game doesn’t increase your value.

        [heartiste: yes it does. stop trolling.]

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    • on April 17, 2012 at 8:58 pm Sage

      @OG_MB

      Wow, I am in the exact same situation as you in every regard (except I didn’t use protection). I’ve been pretty depressed since I got herpes and I got it after having sex with only 10 women. I haven’t gone a single date or even kissed a girl since I was diagnosed a few months ago. I know it’s common and not a serious disease, but I’ve always used the fact that I’m higher quality than almost all of a woman’s other options to build up my confidence for the seduction and now that I have herpes, I don’t know if that’s true. Her other options probably won’t give her a virus for life.

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      • on April 18, 2012 at 1:00 pm OG_MB

        Damn Sage,

        You just described my feelings nearly exactly. I’ve only had sex with 8 women, and like you haven’t dated or kissed a girl since being diagnosed in December. I can logically understand that it isn’t a serious life threatening disease, and I have only had one outbreak, but the mental aspect of it and knowledge that I can spread it is what bitchslaps the confidence. It even had affected my sleep and performance at work. What a bitch. I have decided I will be telling any future women I get involved with the truth since whoever gave it to me did not do me the same favor. I suppose that’s the best thing to do, but it still is a shitty situation. There has to be a way to become alpha and nail a lot of chicks despite this hindrance. It definitely isn’t easy even without herpes. Where there’s a problem there is potential innovation…

        I appreciate the other replies, as this is something that has frustrated the hell out of me and is almost never discussed on this type of site. Thanks for the positive outlook.

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    • on April 19, 2012 at 11:38 pm Spiralina

      Nobody has said this yet, but there are many more women than men with herpes because certain physiological differences make it easier for a man to transmit it to a woman than vice versa. So even if you restrict yourself to the infected population (which you don’t have to do) you’re still at a statistical advantage.

      You might want to start with the herpes dating sites and work on your online game. I’ve heard there are lots of hot women there. This will help you get your sexual confidence back up. You can also have sex with uninfected women wearing condoms when you’re not having an outbreak, but you need to tell them about your status beforehand. It’s not just a moral issue, you can be sued if you don’t. This is even more incentive to work on your game, since women aren’t likely to expose themselves to infection UNLESS they see the man as very high status and attractive already.

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      • on April 19, 2012 at 11:48 pm Spiralina

        P.S. Perhaps this is TMI, but my husband has herpes and told me about it after we started dating (but before sex). It was a non-issue to me because I found him so attractive already, it seemed like a minor drawback compared to the total package. Obviously you’re not looking for a wife, but I think the same principle applies. Women do a subconscious, reflexive cost-benefit analysis before deciding to sleep with a man. Your job is to make the benefits outweigh the costs. It might take some work, but you can do it.

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  39. on April 16, 2012 at 4:33 pm Capsaicin

    Desperate brides try feeding tube diet: Under doctor’s supervision, some take extreme measures to drop weight before the wedding

    http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/47061726/ns/today-today_health/#.T4yBGjLLzyA

    *****

    “Jennifer Derrick’s weight had crept to 159 pounds from 125, and she knew she would not fit into her grandmother’s wedding dress.

    ‘Women were smaller back then, and there was nothing to let out,’ said Ms. Derrick, of Rockford, Ill. She took prescription pills, had vitamin B shots and made weekly $45 visits to a Medithin clinic in Janesville, Wis. When she married on March 18, she was back to 125 pounds; the gown, from 1938, fit perfectly.”

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 6:02 pm Holden Caulfield

      How fat is she now that the wedding is over? I wonder if there is any correlation with high quickly a woman’s BMI increases when compared with how beta/omega her husband is.

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      • on April 16, 2012 at 10:01 pm Ripp

        LOL.

        I’d also like to see a study that shows avg BMI and weight increase per bride 90 days after marriage ceremony.

        My guess is it’s at least 5+ on the BMI and 30lbs. And 2 full notches down the SMV scale…

        [heartiste: there are studies showing that wives gain weight in the first years of marriage. there are probably posts on it in the archives here.]

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      • on April 17, 2012 at 3:35 am Ripp

        I vaguely remember reading it. After digging deeper its not surprising there is solid scientific finding.

        Original CH post:
        https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2007/10/26/marriage-does-a-body-bad/

        UNC Study that is referenced:
        http://www.nature.com/oby/journal/v17/n7/full/oby200997a.html


        “Several studies examining longitudinal changes in romantic relationship status report a differential sex effect of entry into marriage, with greater weight gain in women (9,10,30). Women may be differentially impacted by transitions in romantic relationship status; for example, through increased social obligations encouraging consumption of regular meals (31,32) and larger portion sizes (33), resulting in increased energy intake (30). Further, entry into cohabitation or marriage is associated with decreased physical activity (34) and a

        decline in desire to maintain weight for the purpose of attracting a mate (6).

        In contrast, obese women may be less likely to marry (35). Our longitudinal findings suggest that both men and women who enter marriage are more likely to become obese, consistent with findings from another large, racially diverse sample of young adults (36). Moreover, we found that individuals who lived with romantic partners for a longer duration had higher likelihood of incident obesity suggesting that shared household environmental factors may contribute to changes in obesity.”

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      • on April 17, 2012 at 2:47 pm Holden Caulfield

        So these women know how to *get* the husband, but not how to *keep* the husband (or keep him happy at any rate). I think CH once posted that the best way for a girl to keep her guy happy was to stay thin and stay 21. Great advice (pay attention ladies!)

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      • on April 17, 2012 at 2:49 pm Greg Eliot

        In the winter she gains, in the summer she maintains.

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      • on April 19, 2012 at 2:52 am S. M. Sullivan

        Pregnancy and use of hormonal birth control both cause women to gain weight and lose interest in sex. Other causes of obesity; bad parenting, (ever watch the moms of 500 pound teens piling food onto the plates of their morbidly obese offspring?) and metabolic syndrome (caused by antidepressants such as Paxil.) Once people are fat it becomes hard for them to exercise, so it’s a wonder there are any thin married women left.

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  40. on April 16, 2012 at 4:40 pm Tmason

    From the HuffingtonPost, out of all places:

    Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/16/genes-iq-brain-size_n_1427966.html

    Brain size and smarts are, to some extent, genetic — and now, a team of more than 200 researchers has uncovered specific genes that are linked to both brain volume and IQ.

    Though scientists have suggested bigger brains are “smarter,” this study is the strongest case yet for a genetic connection to brain size and to IQ. Of course, brain size is not 100 percent correlated with a person’s intelligence, and other factors, including connections between brain cells and even a person’s experiences, play roles.

    So, if Genetics:IQ are strongly correlated, and Race:IQ are Strongly Correlated, then perhaps….

    …

    Nope, we are a Perfect Rainbow Coalition (TM)

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 6:24 pm That Guy

      @TMason,
      You do realize why the HuffPost went with this, right?!

      The derived SNP in question is found at greater concentration in West Africans (~50%), versus Europeans (~25%) or East Asians (~15%) – so it suits a particular agenda. That said the effect is only to increase IQ by 1.25%…

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  41. on April 16, 2012 at 6:15 pm Nuevo Married Alpha

    I love this blog. Problem is it makes me think too much.

    I’m married yet I’m constantly and easily getting young action on the side. My wife is getting fat and old. It’s embarrassing to be in public because I deserve better. But I made the choice when I was beta. I’ve since learned game but now have 2 kids (3 and 5yo) which complicates everything. She and I get along well but divorce is always on my mind. I’d pull the trigger if I didn’t know it would devastate the kids like it did me and my brother at the same age.

    I’m more or less venting, but I want to submit my story as evidence that a miserable married man is enduring for the sake of the children. We actually had a conversation about divorce (when the stupid Dr. mailed my STD test bill to the house). She said she didn’t want to stay together for the kids. That’s the only reason I’m doing it. (not exactly true, i did the math and I’d end up broke, but if kids weren’t an issue I’d bear it.)

    And the sex (when we have sex) sucks. I get regular sex outside of my marriage and it’s fucking earth shattering in comparison (except when their husbands walk in on us, but I digress).

    I love this blog. It’s a geat place for me to go when I need encouragement. That sounds stupid but I’m torn up inside, and if anyone’s been in the real world lately, you know there’s not much help out there.

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    • on April 16, 2012 at 10:02 pm Ripp

      HEH.

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  42. on April 16, 2012 at 6:21 pm Adam

    Internet porn is destroying the Western man

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    • on April 17, 2012 at 2:31 pm Laconophile

      CH should do a post on the perils of masturbation.

      Ever since I cut back to once a week I have way more energy and testosterone.

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  43. on April 16, 2012 at 6:31 pm Anon123

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/9206176/Women-are-more-moral-than-men-survey-says.html#disqus_thread

    the fact that such ridiculous studies still get thrown about should be a discussion topic in of itself.

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  44. on April 16, 2012 at 6:48 pm Jason

    Still A Virgin At 34,,Dutch Man Fathers Over 80 Kids In Past 8 Years As Private Sperm Donor

    Since then, Houben sleeps with an average of 15 childless women a month in an attempt to fulfill their dreams of motherhood.

    http://lukescorner.net/profiles/blogs/wtf-still-a-virgin-at-34-dutch-man-fathers-over-80-kids-in-past-8?xg_source=activity

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  45. on April 16, 2012 at 8:03 pm anonymous

    An alpha male’s obituary:

    http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/denverpost/obituary.aspx?n=michael-blanchard-flathead&pid=156944598

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  46. on April 16, 2012 at 8:42 pm GeishaKate

    @Hecate: Making the same amount of money seems to be the recipe for a civilized divorce. Also, recognizing that people’s retirement funds are their own and negotiating child support. I would say too its important to make this a quick process. Save yourself money by having an agreement before you even meet with a lawyer. And, to be fair, the person who initiates the divorce should pay for it.

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    • on April 17, 2012 at 9:26 am Hecate

      Right on, GeishaKate. And we had an agreement — which fluctuated a bit once we got the lawyers involved, some things we hadn’t thought of — before filing. Although I would contend that this was a wife (me)-initiated divorce, he would argue that he wanted out too and just didn’t have the guts to pull the trigger. It is truly amicable, and I realize that is rare.

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  47. on April 16, 2012 at 8:58 pm GeishaKate

    @danielantinora: The problem is usually people who jump to conclusions before they have any information, which makes me suspect you are a divorce lawyer;)

    As I explained above, you can try to make decision on your own, but if one parent changes their mind or wants something different, you can be summoned to mediation whenever anybody feels like it.

    “If he wanted 50% and didn’t get it you have successfully kidnapped the kids with the help of the court. Even ifs you gave him 50% you’ve still kidnapped 50% of them.” This is kind of a ridiculous statement since if he was granted 50% custody then I could claim he had kidnapped them from me, right? Look, it is clear from what you wrote that your situation is not what you would want to put it mildly, but its not as though you couldn’t change that. My daughter sees her father every other day, yet she has the stability of living almost entirely in one house. My ex lives only a few houses away, and if that isn’t sacrificing for the children, I don’t know what is.

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    • on April 17, 2012 at 9:45 am Ben

      “and if that isn’t sacrificing for the children, I don’t know what is.”

      Well, then, here’re some suggestions you slut:

      1. Staying in the relationship (doing *whatever* it takes).

      2. This is something you could have thought about before you had children: “should I have children with this man?”

      Personally I would have steralised you before you could ever pollute the lives of your now, poor, bastards.

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  48. on April 16, 2012 at 10:37 pm Me

    The “almost” pick-up.
    Flawless (heavily flawed) victory/fatality starts at 1:12.

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    • on April 17, 2012 at 1:52 pm Anon

      Great video.

      I know it’s prob edited, condensed, etc. but this shows that pickup is, in large part, a numbers game.

      Here’s a decently good looking guy demonstrating zero game and still engaging women in conversations, even number closing one attractive chick.

      The key? Plow and keep plowing.

      However, even legendary pickup machine Paul Janka. A Dark Triad if I’ve ever seen one, with his outcome independent direct game. A Harvard educated, good looking guy with money. He’s a guru, teaches other men the game, yet says only about 10% of the numbers he gets goes anywhere.

      Check out his vids on YouTube sometime.

      Bottom line, pickup=exposure to many women=numbers game (to a large degree).

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      • on April 17, 2012 at 4:54 pm YaReally

        Will the nice guy in the video actually put his P in the girl’s V? I didn’t watch the video, maybe the end of it shows them boning, I couldn’t stand listening to the guy for more than 10 seconds lol

        Paul runs a VERY numbers based game. But he runs day game in New York where everyone is hurrying along through their day and there isn’t time to build comfort with the girls to avoid flaking. He basically DHVs himself real quick then pushes for a number and vanishes (this is his actual strategy, he says he won’t make a better impression in 10 minutes than in 2 so fuck it bail fast). In his environment it’s a decent way to game but by default it’s going to be heavily heavily numbers based with a ton of flakes.

        Referencing him is like saying “all drivers speed because on a race track drivers go really fast”. Paul’s doing his own thing that he’s adapted to his environment and very few guys run the same style of game he does.

        Incidentally his eBook (should be free) of How To Get Pussy In New York is a great read. He explains how/why his game fits his environment and he does a lot of stuff differently from normal PUAs. Like he does day game during the week and meets up with his girls for dates on the weekends instead of going to the bars fri/sat to compete with other dudes for the girls. Smart strategy if you’re in a city surrounded by thousands of girls walking around every day. He also has some funny ways of keeping things inexpensive.

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    • on April 17, 2012 at 10:00 pm geo

      As a novice, I think this is great. It really helps to someone more awkward (or pretending to be) at approaching than I am. And to see the wrong type of body language and eye contact in action. Of course it helps to see it done the right way, but there are plenty of examples of that.

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  49. on April 16, 2012 at 11:10 pm Prof. Woland

    The ability to earn and accumulate assets is an apex alpha trait; perhaps thee alpha trait. This is why it is so admired and envied by all. People who try and equate men who want to protect something they have successfully built as whiners or as if it were a mark against their SMV are usually the ones who have nothing to protect. This beta behavior is true for both men and women. I use lawyers all the time to try and protect myself. Being divorced and remarried this includes family law and changing the laws in the first place to suit my interests is just an extension of that.

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    • on April 17, 2012 at 12:36 am Anonymoustrollboy

      Yep. The truth at last: “alphaness”, and sexual access, is determined by money.

      [heartiste: tell it to skittles man.]

      Seems ironic that all the Game afficionados blast others as being “sheltered”, while they themselves cannot accept this one simple fact of reality.

      [are you purposefully being dumb, or does it come naturally, like breathing? i suspect you are rationalizing your failure with women as a function of lacking sufficient funds to buy the whores. this is what a lot of dull, uninteresting men say when they can’t get the women they desire.]

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      • on April 17, 2012 at 9:47 am Ben

        “Yep. The truth at last: “alphaness”, and sexual access, is determined by money.”

        And tell it to me and Rooshv. Fool. You’re deluding yourself because you do not want to accept reality.

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  50. on April 17, 2012 at 1:45 am Prof. Woland

    The whole point of the Red Queen theory of evolution is that we are all trying to get what we don’t have. That is why there are two sexes. If we did not need genetic diversity we could just divide like pond scum to reproduce saving us a lot of bother. Alpha physical traits are obvious and god given and hence cannot really be changed so the real battle ground is climbing the dominance hierarchy. In this culture that means money. What is often overlooked about money and dating is that it is a proxy for intelligence or critical social skills. Stupid people do not run successful enterprises, build wealth, or create beautiful and useful things. That is the part of it that is so attractive to women. A loser that won the lottery is still a loser. That’s not to say that money is everything or the only thing but all things held constant it is definitely a plus. I might be stretching this but in one very real sense game between men and women is somewhat the equivalent to what climbing the dominance hierarchy is between men. It is a fitness test. Ultimately they are just different pathways to the same destination, the vagina. The last thing is that this is a winner take all war. There is no rule that says you cannot be physically attractive, smart, rich, famous, and good with the ladies.

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  51. on April 17, 2012 at 2:54 am walawala

    Interesting story from Hong Kong’s South China Morning Post today about the outcry over a Chinese-language reality show whose English title is “Wannabee Brides” but whose literal Chinese name is more like “Blossomed women” (that’s Cougar in English)

    What’s interesting is the “game” advice being given to these women to attract suitable men…not drastically different from the game advice PUA forums give to guys:

    Another coach, Santino, who claimed to be a lecturer on relationships, taught the women that they should lean over at a 45-degree angle when having a conversation with a member of the opposite sex.

    “Remember one key point about sending SMS [texts], your message must be shorter than the other [person’s], and make sure he is the last one to send a message, not you,” Santino also told the contestants.

    http://www6.lexisnexis.com/publisher/EndUser?Action=UserDisplayFullDocument&orgId=574&topicId=100020474&docId=l:1645505359&isRss=true&Em=4

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  52. on April 17, 2012 at 7:46 am Alex

    While I understand the evils of divorce laws, I think game is much better at inoculating a guy against an unwanted divorce than it is given credit for here. After all, sleeping with lots of attractive women is a difficult, rare outcome; if game can get you that, why can’t it get you the affections of a loving wife/a stable marriage, which is a common outcome for a lot of people?

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  53. on April 17, 2012 at 12:48 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

    lzozozlzozo

    Poetry For a Pristine Girl
    I met a girl with eyes of ocean blue,
    I tried to pull her from the pagan realm,
    But it was something this sailor couldn’t do,
    And before I knew it, she had the helm.
    I went down fighting for something I believed,
    While my soul never strayed from the pinnacle,
    And that, my friend, is what made it hard to grieve,
    For flesh is but a temporary shackle.
    Those eyes– they bound me to a dreary day,
    For they could never see the words I spoke,
    Without a soul to anchor things she’d say,
    Soft promises drifted when she awoke.
    With no constraints, unrequited temptation,
    Conversations drowned out by her TV,
    On the pill to counter God’s creation,
    A long time before she ever knew me.
    She said stop twice and called it modesty,
    Like getting trashed for our anniversary,
    Tight skirts and bars– she needed all to see,
    Her subtle, endearing humility.
    Surrounded by her friends, all so astute,
    With their profound sitcoms and MBAs,
    they laughed at my jokes, they thought I was cute,
    and cast aspersion on my quiet ways.
    They worshipped all those who treated them wrong,
    They believed in nothing but what they felt,
    In their context Christ’s kindness wasn’t strong,
    They needed to share the pain they’d been dealt.
    To me love is a painting, poetry,
    A relationship is a work of art,
    Where actions embroider the tapestry,
    To her it was but a strategic chart.
    I enjoyed the work, she wanted the pay,
    A part-time player in her transactions,
    Her friends told her that I got in the way,
    Of their suave and superior abstractions.
    Guess I’m a simple guy, the starred night sky,
    And of the pristine feminine I’m a fan,
    But this culture taught her to live a lie,
    To trade her virtue and become a man.
    I wanted the romance our forefathers knew,
    The deep romance they teach us to deny,
    But the Book I found, I knew it was true,
    When the words shook my soul and made me cry.
    But there were moments where I pulled her free,
    And I know she felt her eternal soul,
    But then again, it could’ve just been me,
    We kept afloat because I filled a hole.
    I wanted mountains, she needed to ski,
    I spoke of marriage, she just needed now,
    Somewhere within, she confused being free,
    With a sinful love that God can’t allow.
    I read Shakespeare while she watched the movie,
    I loved the sunflowers, she needed museums,
    Like Van Gogh I guess I felt art was free,
    While she religiously bought all that seems.
    Where most would feel shame, she created a game,
    kept her parents and friends laughing at me,
    while I strove to light an eternal flame,
    she thought it healthier to just sleep with me.
    Postmodernism’s queen, she’d poll her friends,
    take phone surveys on the right thing to do,
    as long as it was a means to an end,
    abortion if a child just wouldn’t do.
    Demanding forgiveness without judgement,
    I watched her cut the prophets’ souls in two,
    What ever she believed, that’s what God meant,
    And thus whispering prudence wasn’t true.
    And every time that I sought to explain,
    she clicked call waiting to the other line,
    I told the silence what I couldn’t feign,
    and I told her that I was feeling fine.
    Against their culture called economy,
    Against Cosmo and all they advertise,
    They dressed up licentiousness as liberty,
    Virgin Mary in a bulimic’s disguise.
    And all these things that I could never say,
    The bold Truth she’d always seek to deny,
    Not out here, where her innocence would fray,
    Her soul belonged somewhere warm, safe, and dry.
    And so I’d tried to make her a Christian,
    Gently and subtly, without any pain,
    While I endured the judgements of a pagan,
    Those sky blue eyes and a cold soul of rain.
    And I guess it was that rain that I saw,
    two puddles reflecting an honest sky,
    Such infinite beauty, I held in awe,
    And leapt to give eternity a try.
    It hurt to dive into those deepest eyes,
    And find out that they were just shallow pools,
    For her deeper soul, where true beauty lies,
    They’d made a kingdom for pagans and fools.
    I know, my Lord, this sailor went astray,
    Drifted meself, trying to make her whole,
    For something more I thought I heard her pray,
    But the Truth broke my heart and saved my soul.
    And Lord, I feel that I have done my time,
    Ready to kneel before a Virgin heart,
    With reason and rhyme, I’ll confess my crime,
    And by God’s great grace, make a brand new start.
    Now she’s crying, but there’s a silver lining,
    Out of the fog, an angel walks my way,
    These words ran with her tears, now the sun’s shining,
    Blue eyes cleared of the postmodern fog’s grey.
    O’ the forgotten power of a poem,
    The mirror of the spirit’s reflection,
    For love, faith, and honor, a sturdy home,
    This noble vessel of vital redemption.

    lzozozlzozozlzoz

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    • on April 17, 2012 at 2:50 pm Holden Caulfield

      Its nice to have the GBFM making regular appearances again.

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      • on April 17, 2012 at 7:05 pm Firepower

        erm you actually have the TIME to read that stuff?
        You must work for the GSA

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  54. on April 17, 2012 at 1:00 pm Evan

    Re: “Another Chateau concept confirmed: Ugly and sexually frustrated women devote more time and energy to careers. http://t.co/OKsB5Lts”

    Must explain why I put zero energy into my “career.” LOLZ.

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  55. on April 17, 2012 at 1:55 pm GeishaKate

    @ Ben: Staying in a relationship is not always the best or safest solution. Its rather poor logic to advise women to marry young and have children and then say, when they have chosen unwisely due to inexperience, you should have thought of that beforehand! You simply cannot know anything without experience; its impossible.

    Personally…oh never mind 🙂

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    • on April 17, 2012 at 2:47 pm Anon

      “and then say, when they have chosen unwisely due to inexperience”

      Who’s the idiot who said that women should be allowed to choose by themselves?
      They can’t choose wisely when they’re young because they’re attracted to cads. And when they wise up, the little problem is that they’re already almost sexually worthless.

      This dilemma was solved by patriarchy. Women shall not choose their partners. Their experimented alpha fathers and brothers shall choose for them, ideally someone in the greater beta-lesser alpha range, according to the female’s attractiveness.

      “”Its rather poor logic to advise women to marry young and have children ”

      It’s rather poor logic to advise women. Period.

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      • on April 17, 2012 at 11:13 pm anon

        Well, since crumptess didn’t get banned yet for being rude, here goes… you’re an idiot. The dilemma you mentioned doesn’t exist. If the fathers you’re referring to are truly “alpha,” their expectations would be conveyed even when not officially verbalized. I’m completely serious about that. I always knew my dad didn’t want me to marry anyone like him. It’s conveyed. I can’t even describe how, it just is. You just know. In fact, with that type of father, you get a distaste for the alpha definition of behavior on this blog to the extent that alpha becomes synonymous with “loser.” (I agree, though, that the gb/la category is a good aim.) Having that type of father is only useful to the extent that it ensures at least one subsequent generation of females will choose more wisely, although I have no idea what happens after that.

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      • on April 18, 2012 at 12:30 am Anon

        “here goes… you’re an idiot”

        Fuck you too.

        “The dilemma you mentioned doesn’t exist”

        That dilemma (alpha cock chasing during youth/suddenly wising up when the wall is at sight) is one of the core concepts of this blog and others. Good luck challenging it because you “feel” that it’s invalid.

        “If the fathers you’re referring to are truly “alpha,” their expectations would be conveyed even when not officially verbalized.”

        I know. A strong masculine dominant “alpha” father is the best thing that can happen to a daughter, because that dominance instills mixed emotional imperatives of dominance avoidance/willingness to submission.
        It’s the best thing that can happen to her to avoid chasing alpha cads, and select for genuine masculine strength. A lesser alpha/greater beta, according to this blog’s definition may not be a pussy slayer, but he can be close to a certain masculine ideal family man.
        A woman will not go for lesser betas and omega dregs of manhood because she had a strong father, it doesn’t make sense.
        But patriarchy works on a multidimensional level. It relatively eases the hypergamous female impulses, and at the same time offers men enough incentives to man up, therefore creating the metastability ingredients that are lacking in the current sexual dystopia.

        “In fact, with that type of father, you get a distaste for the alpha definition of behavior on this blog to the extent that alpha becomes synonymous with “loser.””

        You’re telling me that don draper’s daughter would hate to have a don draper husband. I doubt it.
        As hinted before, a strong masculine father figure doesn’t kill the female hypergamous urges, it simply contains them within manageable levels.

        “Having that type of father is only useful to the extent that it ensures at least one subsequent generation of females will choose more wisely, although I have no idea what happens after that.”

        Reread what I said. Or go read the archives, or better yet, the great books for men. The patriarchal wisdom wouldn’t have lasted an eternity if its efficiency was limited to one generation.

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      • on April 18, 2012 at 1:37 am anon

        “That dilemma (alpha cock chasing during youth/suddenly wising up when the wall is at sight) is one of the core concepts of this blog and others. Good luck challenging it because you “feel” that it’s invalid.”

        Nope. Never said I “feel” anything. I’ve “chosen” differently, although I don’t doubt many females fall into that pattern, but that’s their own stupidity.

        “A lesser alpha/greater beta, according to this blog’s definition may not be a pussy slayer, but he can be close to a certain masculine ideal family man.”

        No, the gb is not “close,” he is the ideal family man. Alphas are not “family men” or companionate husbands. A “pussy slayer” couldn’t possibly be an ideal family man because when it comes down to it, his children will come last. If his children came first, he’d be a genuine family man/provider drone, which this blog criticizes heavily.

        “A woman will not go for lesser betas and omega dregs of manhood because she had a strong father, it doesn’t make sense.” Nice try. I never said that. No, but she will go for gb/la, or even down to mostly beta (in relation to women, as long as he’s not the type to let other men trample on him).

        “Reread what I said. Or go read the archives, or better yet, the great books for men. The patriarchal wisdom wouldn’t have lasted an eternity if its efficiency was limited to one generation.”

        I said the wisdom lasts for one generation because a granddaughter of an alpha (the kind who the thought of monogamy would have simply never occurred to) wouldn’t have firsthand exposure to it and choose against it when finding a spouse due to a strong distaste for it. (and this is w/o even knowing what was “off” at the time. And later filling in the facts.)

        Don Draper- I’ve never watched the show. I’ll have to and see what I think. But I’m pretty sure my distaste will still stand.

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    • on April 17, 2012 at 3:03 pm Ben

      Woman’s experience is irrelevant. You’re giving women too much agency–a masculine understanding of femininity thanks to fagcoult and other intellectual poisoners. Old fathers, with a deep experience of knowledge of other men, are the proper gatekeepers for women in marriage. This obviates a lot of problems–not least because women are attracted to thugs and morons on a visceral, unstoppable and unknowable (to the woman) level.

      No doubt there are situations where staying in a relationship with children is worse than leaving it. These are so rare though that for overall societal utility, advocating one rule just in order to minimise nonconformity due to confusion, is worth the suffering of the miniscule minority (being beaten a bit / cheated on are not good excuses when you have borne the man’s children.)

      Without children, these are arguable acceptable reasons; crucially there’s not third party except for society, and that will only be marginally affected by your actions (vs the extreme affect divorce has on children.)

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  56. on April 17, 2012 at 2:43 pm AHE

    “Did human math smarts come from neanderthals and social skills from cro-magnons?”

    From the article: “I found that modern culture selects for socialization but against the Neanderthal traits for mathematics and intelligence,” she said, and looked down. “I don’t know how you’ll survive when our genes are gone.””

    Haha! So the “never settle” women of Western Civ are leading us into a future where math and engineering smarts have been bred out of the general population. Could the world right now be at peak engineering capacity? Perhaps Cheap Chalupas should work that into his great stagnation hypothesis.

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  57. on April 17, 2012 at 3:35 pm Anon

    “Did human math smarts come from neanderthals and social skills from cro-magnons? Fascinating article with portents. ”

    LOL
    Smart dudes are fucking neanderthals. That’s why they’re selected against.
    But wait… I’m a smart dude too…

    Oh shit.

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  58. on April 17, 2012 at 4:16 pm Seraph

    “I know it’s prob edited, condensed, etc. but this shows that pickup is, in large part, a numbers game.”

    “Bottom line, pickup=exposure to many women=numbers game (to a large degree).”

    Sorry, but I don’t follow this logic, unless maybe I am misunderstanding your point.

    Yes, you can put a million monkeys into a room with typewriters for a billion years, and at some point one of them will bang out Hamlet.

    Not very efficient, though, is it?

    Yes, you can do a machine spray method of approaching everyone woman in site without any sort of thought or technique behind it, and EVENTUALLY something will pay off if you don’t stop until it does. (This assumes, BTW, the guy is not somehow repulsive, ie, Omega, unless he’s approaching 3’s or less)

    However, does it not make much more sense to apply some effort, thought and some technique these approaches to improve the success rate of each individual one?

    I am by no means a math whiz (I really am not, so check it…), but if we assume the “plow and plow” method has a 1% success rate, for example, then someone will need to make 100 approaches to hit pay dirt on average.

    If someone does the minimal amount of prep work along Game guidelines, and say increases their success rate by only 4%, they will hit paydirt on every 20 approaches, correct?

    That is already significant, but let’s consider how long it takes to do 100 approaches. If we assume the average guy can manage 100 approaches per week, then “Plow” guy can find success, on average, once per week, and 4 times per month, max.

    5% Game guy can, in comparison, on average finds success 5 times every week, or a total of 20 per month.

    Even if we assume that 5% guy cannot do as many approaches as “plow” guy, because of time and effort spent to increase his effectiveness by 4%, he will still be ahead of the game, no pun intended.

    If 5% game guy only has time for 50 approaches per week, he will still pull 2.5 successes out per week, or 10 per month, which is 2.5 times better than the “plow”
    average.

    Any holes in this logic, someone please let me know.

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    • on April 27, 2012 at 3:40 pm jironghrad

      I think the particular issue with your “math” is that percentages are an average over time. This doesn’t account for variables such as appealing to a certain type (say video gaming chicks) or going to places where his particular appeal may register higher overall. And even in an a simple “percentage” test such as rolling a six-sided die, it’s possible to keep rolling sixes. At the core, it’s a numbers game, but it’s still possible to influence the percentage (sometimes to a staggering degree).

      The biggest wildcard is the unpredictability of human beings. To use your 5% guy, if he goes up to 20 women, statistically he should only close 1. But he might walk up to a woman who’d normally say no, but just broke up with her cheating boyfriend upon whom she now wants revenge, and then to a girl who can’t say no to anyone. The correct way to look at it is that each woman is an individual percentage because probability (at least in this particular case) isn’t directly modified by past results.

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  59. on April 17, 2012 at 5:45 pm a girl

    gbfm is a genius with all his love reserved for the immortals. girls are rolling pinballs in his eyes 🙂

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  60. on April 17, 2012 at 6:51 pm GeishaKate

    I just watched the Colorado video. Makes you wonder what in the world happened to lead to that. In my state, if you have children, each parent must attend a four hour course on raising children of divorce. Now that’s a tough teaching gig! There was a female and male instructor and I remember the male cautioning the men not to think that by quitting their job they could lower their child support payments as they are based on your earning POTENTIAL not what you are currently making. He told a story of a man who did just that and, you guessed it, ended up in jail. The black gentleman I was sitting next to had just gotten out of jail and was telling everybody who would listen how it all works. It might also interest people to know that if you do not show up to a custody mediation, your summons states that you can be put in jail, but what is more likely to happen is that whatever the other parent is requesting at the custody mediation will be granted in your absense. Samuel, you have my sympathies.

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  61. on April 17, 2012 at 7:34 pm Gramps

    Is it not amazing how they treat fathers in a divorce? Yet, they give a free pass to countless ghetto men who father children out of wedlock. Hell, if they worry about the drug laws putting blacks into jail, imagine if they enforced laws on child support for the 75% of black children born out of wedlock in this country.

    Anyhow, the wife in that video has the power to throw him back into jail anytime she wants.

    Does anybody know what happens to the guy in jail? Like, does he serve a life term for non-support?

    I think, if I were in this situation, I would just refuse to play with them. I would pay 1/4th my take home pay. If she didn’t like it, throw me into jail. Better to get free room and board than be a slave. Life might not be too bad in a low security prison for a few years. Eventually, they would get tired of supporting you. Maybe, in a place like CA, since they are a bankrupt state, they would finally just let you go.

    Did you notice the manjaw of his jail house lawyer?

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  62. on April 17, 2012 at 8:09 pm Object of scorn

    There’s an inherent contradiction between your talk about how women leave marriages because they are “trading up” and your talk about how women hit a wall of un attractiveness at or around the age of thirty and can no longer attract partners of the caliber they could get in their twenties. Or are these theoretical women getting married at 18 and divorced at 25?

    [heartiste: in your world can two different human behaviors among millions of humans not coexist?]

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    • on April 18, 2012 at 12:39 am Greg Eliot

      It’s not so much that the divorcing women are trading up… it’s that they THINK they are going to be able to.

      Sidenote: For every post you would write, read one thousand.

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  63. on April 18, 2012 at 5:19 pm Object of scorn

    So half the women over thirty are drifting about, ignored and pitiful, desperately seeking any male attention they can get, and the other half are busy dumping their husbands for better guys? Or whatever the breakdown is ratio wise… The point is that your various narratives are clashing with each other.

    [heartiste: a wife can dump her beta husband and then cast about desperately in the mating market. why you so dense?]

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    • on April 21, 2012 at 11:15 pm Greg Eliot

      It does no honor to your sex to merely ignore replies to your inane questions/statements, cupcake.

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  64. on April 19, 2012 at 12:26 pm Anonymous

    Strangely, Elizabeth Warren takes view on this in her 2003 book “The Two Income Trap” She criticizes the feminist view of “careers for everyone” (with some direct shots at Gloria Steinem) and the idea that men are generally deadbeats who don’t pay child support. She says the only reason women are often worse off after marriage is that they have fewer cheap housing options, since they generally have custody and thus have to pay a premium for a “good school system”. Men, like Milhouse’s dad on The Simpsons, can just live in a flophouse with a roommate. For a liberal show, The Simpsons presented a gender realist view of that divorce (with the mom free to mingle with celebs and new lovers while the man is decimated). Warren argues emphatically that the “deadbeat dad” thing is a myth and that men get hit hard in divorces.

    As an aside, men who have been to jail for any offense are nearly unemployable.

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  65. on April 22, 2012 at 5:03 am Linkage is Good for You: Week of April 22, 2012

    […] Male Competition“, “Girls & Smartphones”Heartiste – “Women, Divorce and Misleading Statistics“, “Shacking Up vs. Tying the Knot“, “The Psychology of Feminists and […]

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