The Bitches of Beastwick are at it again, this time trotting out that gimp and repeatedly debunked — it’s been shot in the head a thousand times by now — hobbyhorse about a supposed pay gap between men and women.
Femcunts, listen up: the pay gap is a lie. Reporting on it favorably and credulously as if it wasn’t already proven a lie makes you liars. Filthy, clam-baked liars.
Once you control for hours worked, time away from career for family, and occupational choice (service sector and people person jobs that women innately prefer and FREELY CHOOSE generally pay less than male-oriented STEM and finance jobs), the pay gap DISAPPEARS.
So why, given that these facts have been out there for years, do feminists like President Obama continue sticking their fingers in their ears and lying through their teeth? Eh, you may as well ask why a warthog is ugly. It comes naturally.

“do feminists like President Obama continue sticking their fingers in their ears and lying through their teeth?”
Because feminist policies are a sophisticated strategy to defraud their political enemies.
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HARVARD UNIVERSITY JUST INTRODUCED A NEW COURSE!!
Upper-Level Feminist Business 401: During the semester we will learn how to optimize Alpha Fucks and Beta Bucks, as we are buttcoked by “alphas” and then go forth into the corporate-state to buttcock betas out of their assettsts (buttcocking their asstettss so to speak lzozlzoz) buttcoki dem outta der assettts in divorce curt, entitle progapms, corproate sexual harrassment suits, and guilting betas and gelding them with the “pay gap” myth. We will transfer teh assetts to the central banks and bernankifiers for teh centyral banks can only create debt-based fiat dollarz which are worth less than nothing, and thus need d awomenz movement to go forth and buttcock and guilt betas into working working working for a hope to lick our std-addled, strecthed-out bungholes lzozlzololzozo. We will examine why betas do not like this setup, and how we can shame them into marriage and slaving away in corproate jobs while we cock hold the alphas and cukhold da betas zlzololzlzlozozololzlzolz. homework will consist of getting buttcocked by a buttccker while mainitaing a roster of at least 20 beta oribters to reguallry buy one meals so that they will be well fed for the buttcocking later that evening. this will prepare tda womenz for bigger game, whnce they get betas to buy them homes and cars, and then dun future buttcockings with aplphas via alimony and child support lzzllzzlzozozozozo. sample exam questions will be, “what does tucker butthexter max wheym with? klzozolzolzolzo
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“Alpha fucks and beta bucks” is right up there with “Tucker Max and Goldman Sachs”.
Brilliant.
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“Cock-hold the alphas and cuckold the betas” is pretty choice too.
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Reminds me of a conversation I recently had w/ my gf’s best friend. She was pissed that her attorney father suggested that she become a paralegal. “Why can’t I be an attorney?” she fumed.
Just a couple of minutes later she stated that she wants her boyfriend to hurry up and finish school so that she can have kids and be a stay-at-home mother.
So basically, many women just want to be told they can do it and have it all. “yeah, you can be a lawyer/doctor/engineer”. wink, wink and shit.
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Oh, they want to be a well-dressed, important lawyer, doctor, executive, whatever, for the period between 9:30 am and 11:30 am. Then long lunch with friends, phone call to mom, time at park with kids and friends, etc. Then they want to check on how their staff is doing on the work the staff must do for them—because isn’t that how high-powered lawyers, doctors, and executives live? The initial illusion younger professional women have is that if you go to the right school and wear the right suit, you get to join a club of people who Have It Made. Of course, that is just an illusion, as anyone who works demanding jobs quickly realizes.
When twenty-something women face the reality–the awful, grinding, horror-inducing reality–of the three decades of punishing work it takes to become the high-powered lawyer, doctor, executive, etc., they bolt. They say “@%@#$ that!” and opt for an easier route of cubicle drone in government or regulated industry or even go the stay at home mom route. The gals do eventually start to complain–15-20 years later–that the reason they opted out for the mommy track was because the glass ceiling or some such. (I coulda been somebody! I coulda been a contenda’!”) But in reality, they properly choose not to spend 30 years working themselves into childless spinsterhood.
The men who do go that route pay a heavy price for success. Few men are willing or able to pay it. Almost no women are.
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Pure gold. Chick logic (“if I’m hot and act available all those nerds are going to do all the work for me while I go and snag myself an Alpha”) doesn’t work in the business world.
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To chime in, even female doctors tend to choose to work for large practices where they can work 9-5. But its the “same” work? Just not as much of it.
Oh, and not done as well, cuz its done by a chick.
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Yep. The commonly quoted figure for mastering any field is 10,000 hours. Those hours might be fun (if you’re following your talent rather than prostituting yourself), but they’re rarely glamorous.
The problem is, what people see on “Law and Order” and read in “Shades of Grey” isn’t those 10,000 hours, only the reward that comes after it. About the only way you get a shortcut like that in real life is this: http://www.theonion.com/articles/i-havent-achieved-greatness-so-much-as-i-was-born,11069/
If there’s anything I don’t want to say at the end of my life, it’s “I coulda been a contenda”. I’ll actually read “Death of a Salesman” or “The Iceman Cometh” every few years just to get motivation from my utter revulsion for those people.
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Dyn-0-mite observation. But – those aren’t women: they’re just guys who’ve read The Good Men Project too long.
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ok
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Good Thing –
GMP doesn’t
pay you by
the word
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More proof that women & politician will lie in order to fuck you over.
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I think a more powerful point to make is that most women don’t care about the gender pay gap. If you give a woman a commited alpha with resources and time with her kids she could care less how much or little she makes.
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Women exist for lies. Why do you think soap operas thrive in all societies? Drama. Drama. Drama. Meeeeeeeeee!!
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I beg to differ: I have lived with two separate women in my life, and both earned at least fifty per cent more than I did (which is doubtless why I no longer live with either). 😉
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Manginas at liberal state-funded universities perpetuate the pay gap myth every day in their feminist rags they like to call student newspapers.
http://badgerherald.com/oped/2012/04/16/walker_disregards_wo.php
Even takes a swipe at Rep. Glenn Grothman.
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here you go Heartiste. The tables are great (for you stat geeks)
From NBER (a reliable source, I’d add)
“Instead the gender gap largely stemsfrom choices made by women and men concerning the amount of time and energy devoted to a career, asreflected in years of work experience, utilization of part-time work, and other workplace and job characteristics”
“There is no gender gap in wages among men and women with similar family roles. Comparing the wage gap between women and men ages 35-43 who have never married and never had a child, we find a small observed gap in favor of women, which becomes insignificant after accounting for differences in skills and job and workplace characteristics.”
http://www.nber.org/papers/w11240.pdf
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Interesting data. Thanks.
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The Census Bureau reported in the late 80s that 1980 data show women make as much or more as men in similar professions. So this lie about a wage gap is just that: a cynical feminist lie. What maade it worse then and now is that the “study” those feminist morons at (I can’t remember the name of the university; it was either Brandeis, Yeshiva or someplace like that used totally bogus wage comparisons from 1900 on to “prove” their point. They even admitted as much in their press release. And of course the MSM accepted the gap as real and didn’t bother reading the whole release. Or if they did, they ignored the disclaimer, and here we are, more than 30 years later arguing the same BS.
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“..Yeshiva or someplace like that”
*Headpalm* They’ve infiltrated us so bad these days. Need to weed them out because it’s a fucking embarrassment.
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Nearly 70% of worthless degrees go to women (libtard, psych, etc.), and 80% of the engineering degrees are attained by men. (Source: UMN)
As long as one sex provides more economic value than the other, a “pay gap” will always exist. Retard feminists.
On a side note: I think I may have discovered the reason for the birth of feminism. Aaron Russo, a former friend of the Rockefellers–one of the most powerful and influential families in the world–exposed a lot of “insider info” on his deathbed.
Long story short: Feminism, or the “women’s rights movement,” was created as a strategic approach by the elite bankers to tax the other half the population, not to empower women. Pretty genius if you ask me.
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I think that feminism also serves the purpose of driving down wages. If all the women become housewives tomorrow, unemployment goes bye-bye and the men can negotiate higher salaries. They also tend to spend more and bow to authority more often.
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Yes, women are fully submissive to their real husband, Uncle Sam.
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Feminismsmss does a lot of good:
1) it buttcocks and deosuls womenz in college
2) teachez womenz to transfer assetstst from betatas to da butthexual glman sax rhyemes iwth tucker max somosodite “alhpas (lzozlzl)” who who pounded their assess and ddoeuslsled themz
3) it gets da kidz outta da house and into da daycare where they can be drugged up and dumbed down by da cocprate state zlzozolz
4) it breaks up the fmaily which si anaoteh rplanck of the ocmmusistic manaindiefstoes zlzozlzz comcuneists maanifetso zlzooz
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I knew a girl who was, alas, a feminist by some academic pathway in which her underlying real world degree was infused with a minor is feminism.
We had this discussion. I pointed out the differences for real manly work (usually done for all of adulthood until death) versus bullshit makework girl shit.
Her response was that these paygap numbers were corrected for that.
So, the funny thing was, I told her, ok, what are the raw uncorrected numbers?
never got that answer.
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Womyn Studies types spend endless time spouting their favored numbers and reciting their favored theories. But I am always amused at how they have, at most, a semester of basic stats and no more than high school trig-level math training.
How scholars actually compile and analyze statistical data is something other people do, not them, and it is something the Womyn Studies types take for granted, like how a bridge will stay up as they drive across it. In short, they don’t understand anything about the numbers they spout; but they feel the numbers prove them to be superior in learning to any who disagree.
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The very fact this has to be debunked for the 705th time is proof – we’re not doing it properly.
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Nah, your doing it just fine. It won’t go away until women stop wanting to believe it.
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Nope. Women “want” to believe they’re Tinkerbelle and still hot, when they’re Fat n’ Fifty.
If you think you can “get them to stop” wanting to believe in fantasy, go back and look at Obama’s voter demographics.
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Are we not saying the same thing? They want to believe in the pay gap fantasy just as much as they want to believe fat, fifty and fabulous. Tinkerbelle just allows the hamster to keep spinning.
The fantasy will never fully go away, though if society stopped rewarding it, it would wane. However, I don’t think the reward will stop until society reaches it’s collapse.
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We do, indeed, agree on much.
Yet, the very fact this “paygap” myth/meme/canard has to be debunked for the 705th time is proof – we’re not doing it properly.
Usually, I avoid Salon, Yahoo, MSNBC and their ilk like the an Obama Fundraiser, but NOW is the time to go to those sites and mock them. Humiliate them. Take Giant Shits on them…
Not sit here and preach to the choir.
Remember: if society collapses, you (and your loved ones) will be paddling in the midst of a sea of blood.
Think The Road – but not just with PC White Villains. More black.
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Point taken. The hamster is offering you excuses galore, but you are right.
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From the NBER
Instead the gender
gap largely stemsfrom choices made by women and men concerning the amount of time and energy
devoted to a career, asreflected in years of work experience, utilization of part-time work, and other
workplace and job characteristics.”
“Comparing the wage gap between women and men
ages 35-43 who have never married and never had a child, we find a small observed gap
in favor of women, which becomes insignificant after accounting for differences in skills
and job and workplace characteristics.”
http://www.nber.org/papers/w11240.pdf
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Isn’t there significant evidence that women are not very good at negotiating for higher pay upon being hired, compared to men?
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Do you really think women aren’t as good at negotiating? Its about the only thing they are actually better than guys at.
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93% of people killed on the job are male. Until women start to take jobs that are more likely to kill or maim them (jobs which, not surprisingly, pay more than air conditioned office jobs), the sophistic “pay gap” will persist.
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Where did you read it was only 93%? Last study I saw had it at 98% in the United States.
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One more data point: the percentage of both men killed on the job and men driven to suicide from overwork is about 97% in Japan. (Source: Karōshi, Hiroshi Kawahito)
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GB4M (TM),ve grace us with your prsence in ze MasterClass (TM) (Patent Pending) lzlzolzolzozlzolzo
Yah, da feminist movment for dumb animals, but not for us
As da Hillary Clinton pointed out, in ze HOMELAND, da woman’s place is in the home, and Hillary LEAKING SECRETS! ::
“Hillary Clinton has made some important people in Israel angry…..
There are some terrible things going on in Israel regarding women’s rights; there seem to be new restrictions on women’s freedoms and movements happening every day. Increasing gender segregation in public, the erasure of women’s images, the exclusion of women from public ceremonies, the pressure to keep women from singing, dancing, speaking and even attending events — all these things are happening more frequently and freely.”
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women need to be led, otherwise zhey become zike BABOONS vith the higher heels the higher the hypergamy! hrzhrhzhzrhzrhzrhzhrzh
http://blogs.forward.com/sisterhood-blog/147384/what-hillary-got-right-about-israel/
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once upon a time when da greeks would conquer countries dey would kill the menz and take the womenz as prizes zlzlzozozo
today when da banking cartel conquers a cuntry it butthextes the womenz in college sectrie tapings of butthext sessions, teaches them and trains them how to transfer assetts from mnenz in divroce court, sexual harassment alwsusits, and entitlement programs, and leaves da nmen living as wage slaves who are told dat tucker max da butthexter is an alpha male because he buttehxettss woemnz and tapes it without da woman’s concthent while fuckknng midgets because that has ever defined heroic manhood acococing to da neooncths womenz zllzolzozlzzol
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GB4M you know the true place of ze sexes — zhat is why in the homeland, (Homeland Security HA!) Israel does not have P.C., because this is for the dumb animal golem, but not for us lzlzolzolzozlozl
Which is why Israel has a total fertility rate of 2.8 children per woman, while Europe as a whole has only 1.5.
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all da western woenz being buttcocked by the butctcokcers sdeousled in seceterive tapings of buttehxeteet by tcucker max hrmeesyhems with godlmans sax as dey worship da buttcocking butccocoker masters who lie about their buttcocking hero’s height and make the buttc9ckering liar to be the appragaon of mankind so as to depeoepulate da west zllzozozzoz and prorgam da womenz through cosmo to kill der pabieebs aborrt der bebaes szlzlzlzozlz
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@corvinus: Sadly Israel does have PC, and leftists, and all the fucking idiot types America has. It’s just another Western country.
As a Jew though and Israeli, I’m obliged to state the following: KEEP BUYING PEPSI YOU FUCKING DIRTY GOYIM SO WE CAN KEEP RULING ALL DA MONIES!!! K THKS!
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Maybe they just figured it out over there quicker. At one point, Israeli women played a greater role in the military than in any other country in the world before it got scaled back, and Israel had a female head of state.
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Just let them. Let them have it all.
But game them and fuck them heartlessly.
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women often look for bennies they can use, more desirable working conditions, a short commute, as well as flexibility in taking time out of the day to attend to family needs. this may require them to make a tradeoff in a smaller salary.
this probably accounts for much of the purported wage gap.
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Quality over quantity sounds good to me 🙂
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Not to mention that some of the bennies they do get are, I presume, not included in the wage stats, such as greater pensions due to longevity, and greater use of health care benefits due to the fact that they are quicker to visit doctors and take less shit for time off from work, and due to more single mothers having custody and thereby utilizing family health benefits and sick days for same.
And lets not forget these studies don’t adjust for height bias.
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Stop throwing facts into the discussion. We all know those are the tools of patriarchal oppression, along with rape, thoughtcrime, being born with a penis, etc.
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Exactly, why can’t you be more in touch with your emotions? You’re soooo fucking boring. Outtta here!
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Strikes me as rational. Bitch about the pay gap and you can try to extract more money out of men.
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I’m surprised you didn’t link to this. Good stuff.
http://www.city-journal.org/2011/21_3_gender-gap.html
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so yes dis pay gap is real! lzozlzozozzozzl
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lolz.
Love you, G (no homo)
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yah i luvz u 2, but yah i will not be putting my lotsas cockas anywher e close to your buttgap as it is a puerly platonic sort of love bro lzozlzoozlz
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Whenever a woman brings up the purported pay gap I change the topic to the spending gap. Women spend most of the money, which in many circumstances includes money earned by men, either directly or through social subsidies. Men earn money for women to spend or to spend on women and women complain about it.
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It is the nature of women to bitch.
Men responded by creating civilization.
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huh, whenever a woman mentions the pay gap to me i chuckle politely (“whats so funny?”) and scour the room for more stimulating company.
time is too precious to waste on humorless debate with the dull and delusional.
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Always talk of the pay gap. How come we never hear of the casualty gap, the suicide gap, imprisonment gap or the homelessness gap?
I’d gladly take 75% of what a women makes to have the above listed gaps skewed in the other direction.
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U sure about that? As long as u avoid one of those other gaps, ur better off with the $, unless you want to be on the wrong end of the getting laid gap.
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The fact that women keep talking about the pay gap despite it having been debunked for decades is yet another reason why women shouldn’t have political power. They’re completely immune to reality when reality goes against their emotions.
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“They’re completely immune to reality when reality goes against their emotions.”
Perfectly stated.
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Are Gender Roles in Relationships Reversing?
According to Mundy, a “Big Flip” in gender roles is inevitable and the dynamics of male-female relationships will change drastically. Women will have increased power and will no longer see sex as a way to get a man to commit (and when was that the norm, anyway?) Mundy cites that younger women are having sex with more partners and “are becoming the gender that wants sex more than men do.”
http://shine.yahoo.com/love-sex/gender-roles-relationships-reversing-181400196.html
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The opposite is true: as women get more power, there will be less promiscuous sex, and more forced committment from men.
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You don’t really believe that bs do you?
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John Gray has a fascinating chapter in his book Mars and Venus Together Forever about women who become men.
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Today a slutty looking pregnant black girl got on the bus and a few men immediately got up to offer a seat.
I didn’t.
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I’m sure your mother is proud.
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Good for you. I hope that I’ll have the sack to do the same in a similar situation.
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Fight the power
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Dude, those were her Kindergarten teachers.
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It’s usually women who get up to give a seat to a pregnant woman anyway. Men tend not to even see them.
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Hear hear.
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From the National Bureau of Economic Research, headquartered in that bastion of conservatism, Cambridge MA:
And they note
http://www.nber.org/papers/w11240.pdf
I’m convinced that American women are significantly overpaid compared to men on the basis of their relative productivity on average. I think this done due to political pressures in many forms, including soft quota affirmative action for women and diparate impact tests for discrimination etc.
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NBER appears to be suffering from an ideological deficiency. Smithers, release the hounds.
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I will even take it a step further- Womyn are now preferred employees. Who’s in charge of HR? Womyn. Grrl powr!
Srsly, as a white male, they are looking for ANYone else but me for the job, unless its some super-shit dirty or dangerous job. They don’t want to help no man have a job or opportunity.
Just like affirmative action, fighting racism with racism – These womyn are fighting teh evil patriarchy with evil matriarchy. If there ever was a wage gap, its been closed, overcome, and blown right past! The girls are killin it, and STILL bitching that its not enough.
Sounds a lot like my ex-wife, now that I think about it…
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Well, math is hard, so they don’t understand how these corrections are made.
Either that or they choose ignorance.
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Interestingly, this article on Jezebel was linked under ‘Related Stories’. Irony.
http://jezebel.com/5899661/sheryl-sandberg-gives-us-a-permission-slip-to-leave-work-early-every-day
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LOL, and under related stories for that: “Women Should Preferably Marry Other Women, Says Sheryl Sandberg”
Lesbian divorce-court ass-rape. I’m with you 100% on this one, Sandy.
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I posted this question to Jessica Valenti, and here was her response: http://jessicavalenti.tumblr.com/post/20365121186/so-what-do-you-make-of-the-fact-that-the-often-cited
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I loved the citations she provided to back up her “facts.”
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Well, keep it gentleman and send her a thank you postcard.
With a picture of your erect cock.
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Yes. This is very necessary. This woman needs as many of these as possible sent to her.
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Ascii penis is the way to role here.
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From the manjawed fuckbeast:
Typical woman logic. “These people work full time.” She’s bringing the conversation down to an emotional level with an appeal to authority. “These people work FULL TIME.” Big caps. It must be true.
Hearing and writing “structural inequalities” makes a feminist’s vagina sizzle nicely. She was wet after bashing that into her keyboard with her strong, utilitarian, hands. And, of course, careers are not choices. Women are FORCED into particular careers–with a gun. Obviously.
Motherhood of course not being a choice. And race of course being a gender. Only womens are diffarents rathez k.
Hours worked doesn’t tell you everything. Hours worked–i.e. the amount of work–does not tell you the amount of work. This dumbfuck broad is a genius.
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Women learned the lesson of affirmative action well: find some way to claim you are a victim and then demand compensation. Make it dangerous to disagree with them. Just like african americans claim that racism keeps them out of college/police force/firefighting jobs, etc., and demand that jobs be set aside for them, no matter how badly they perform. And call people racist and try to destroy their careers for pointing out the obvious truth that they are not as qualified as other races that had to get in without the benefit of an extra 300 ‘gimmie’ points on their test scores.
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Most of the homeless are male. Sexism?
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Actually yes in some ways. Women with children are never let be homeless in western democracies if they apply for help, whereas men with children have them taken from them and given to the mother who receives welfare to prevent her homelessness, and he is left to be homeless if such is his economic condition. As well poor single women rather than be homeless can usually shack up with some guy who will support her, or else she can hook. Penniless men unless it’s only temporary and they’ve got a lot else going for them are very unattractive to almost all women and have no such alternatives.
The first part of this is a kind of sexism and the second bases of attraction part is based on innate sex differences.
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Damned right.
We have a big homeless shelter by our hospital. Men need not apply.
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The point is no matter what kind of raw pay gap exists (if it does), it doesn’t show whether any gender discrimination occurs. The only way you can tell is if a man and a woman doing the same job fo the same hours at the same company for the same length of time and they have the same levels of experience and qualifications and with neither of them doing any overtime or getting any bonuses at the end of the year and the job not being commission-based. If the wage rates are still different, then the law already punishes this type of discrimination. That feminists still get away with using the (fictional) pay gap to argue that gender discrimination in terms of not-equal pay for equal work is widespread is a travesty.
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“So why, given that these facts have been out there for years, do feminists like President Obama continue sticking their fingers in their ears and lying through their teeth?”
Because it profits them politically.
[heartiste: woe is me. i’m such an innocent naif, thinking that lying is bad.]
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[…] love to trot out the trope that it is all just about seeking equality with men. Feminists love to point out the pay gap that women could theoretically profit from. They love to point out the “double […]
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If companies could really hire women for, say, 20% less pay than men, they wouldn’t hire men in the first place – a self-evident no-arbitrage argument. It’s a sign of a mad society that properly controlled statistical evidence is required (and then dismissed) to debunk such obvious falsehoods.
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As long as those women provided the same (or greater) value than men and represented the same (or lower) level of risk, then yes, that’s right. It’s a point that’s been made before on this issue by a number of different CEOs. If women represent 20% better value than men (assuming everything other than pay between the genders is “equal”) then how do men EVER get hired?
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The Oakland A’s of Moneyball fame were a decade ago. A baseball team saw an arbitrage opportunity in undervalued players. But that arbitrage opportunity doesn’t exist anymore because it has been fully exploited.
Yet we are supposed to believe that in this era of financial engineering no private equity group, hedge fund, international consulting firm, outsourcing guru, technology company, etc. has availed themselves of this incredibly easy and obvious arbitrage opportunity which a genuine pay gap would imply? You’d think that a group of quantitatively gifted females might even be the ones to…. oh yeah.
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OT
This article is full of gems. A former slut tries to make a case for a current slut who’s been caught in a sextape scandal
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/laws-needed-to-protect-girls-like-771634
“She must also be questioning her taste in men. Boy, can she pick ’em.
She has since made all sorts of excuses about why she let a tosser like Edwards film her on his mobile phone.”
“In my day, any mistakes we made were, thankfully, lost in the mists of time. But I feel desperately sorry for today’s teenage girls who have the capacity to be just as reckless, but have the weight of the rest of their lives resting on their shoulders.”
“Lowlife jerks continue to get away with the sexual exploitation of young girls” (It’s the opposite if you ask me. These poor lowlife jerks can’t get them bitches to back off and stop exploiting them)
Fucking delusional cunt.
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Clowns like you are the reason sites like this get a bad reputation. How the fuck is the girl a slut? Where in the article did it say she was a slut? Nowhere dude. If you are a slut for fucking your own bf, then I don’t want to live in this world anymore. Or maybe any girl who has sex is a slut in your world too.
The issue is about privacy. I bet you wouldn’t want a picture of your small penis circulating around the internet for everyone to see. If you did, you would have volunteered to show your pics to your employee. She didn’t consent to have the video released, so it makes the guy a opportunist scumbag.
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Sorry I hurt your feewings.
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Let me guess you are so insecure that these “sluts” keep rejecting your small penis so you call them sluts. Reminds me of girls who call guys jerks who they can’t attain. Same thing. You are no different than the women you hate.
Sorry for telling the truth. I’m sorry you are so delusional that you are denying the truth.
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She’s a slut you fucking idiot.
Also, all women are sluts to me until proven otherwise. Hold off on that white knight, beta masturbator moralising brah.
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@ Jamison — the men profiled on Karen Owen’s “Duke Fuck List” didn’t consent to have the details of their sexual encounters revealed either.
I take it that you’d agree with me that Karen Owen is also an opportunist scumbag?
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Karen Owens is an opportunist scumbag and slut. But I’m sure those are the nicest things you can say about her
Just because you have a sextape, doesn’t mean you are a slut. Just like if you read this site, doesn’t mean you are an asshole.
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My favorite line “in my book it is one step away from rape”. Cunt’s probably mad none of the guys that pumped and dumped that clam didn’t want to make a sex tape with her. In the off chance one did, I hope he releases it.
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Agree, that’s absurd.
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What about the stripper and porno gap??? Women strippers can make $50-200k per annum – how much do male strippers make? Almost nothing!
And Ron Jeremy has to do all the work in the porno scene and gets paid $100 plus a sandwich. Meanwhile the girl just has to lie there and gets paid $1000-2000.
There ought to be a law, I tell you!
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There is a substantial pay disparity, though you’d be amazed how cheap some porn chicks work (not to mention web girls that fuck free to get content on their own websites), but I’m confident Ron gets way more than that – in both in cash and sandwiches.
Shit, even I got $100 for my last porn shoot. Admittedly, it was four scenes, not just one, but they only took a total of an hour, and I also got bottled water. No sandwiches, though.
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O/T, but file this under ugly truths.
Seems you really can judge a book by its cover:
http://www.news.com.au/technology/sci-tech/sporting-a-tattoo-theres-a-good-chance-you-like-a-drink-study-finds/story-fn5fsgyc-1226329638605
Previous research had shown that people with tattoos and piercings were more likely to engage in unsafe sex, fighting and heavy drinking,
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Of the 884 women, 537 had no body art and an average alcohol measure of 0.12, which rose to 0.14 for the 124 with tattoos, 0.20 for the 138 with piercings, and 0.24 for the 85 women with both tattoos and piercings.
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The disparity would be greater if they measured both sets of groups for heroin, meth, and painkillers.
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I should say the four groups
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Wow, I’ve never seen so many non-sequitirs and straw-man arguments so densely packed into so little space before.
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I’ve also read that when you compare pay between males and females in a single industry, the pay gap is exactly equal to the increase men negotiate for themselves.
Something women never do. They accept the offered salary, and wait for pay rises as they are offered. Men go after more money aggressively.
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Feminism is like a new-age religion with a hierarchy and set of principles.
Trying to debunk them is impossible, because doing so would result in their entire ideology being undermined.
Best to avoid and neutralize them altogether. How this happens is through patience and resolve.
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I heard there’s a pay gap between men and women working in the obama white house. I’m serious.
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Another reason. The answer is simple, actually
Women work more part time jobs. When deciding how much you’re “paid” for a job, part time is less than full time.
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Feminists and Democrats will *never* stop saying there’s a pay gap, or abandon the narrative that women are terribly oppressed..
Why?
Because they get power and benefits from it.
Convincing the electorate there is a huge, unfair gap in pay helps to elect politicians who want to enact more laws to “protect” women and to give them more goodies from the public trough. As long as they get goodies from claiming unfairness they will never stop claiming it.
It’s the same reason why Democrats will *never* stop screaming about massive and pervasive racism in the US despite the fact that our president is black. Why? Because it helps them keep nearly 100% support from blacks. They might lose that support if they acknowleged that racism has receeded as a big problem.
Recently I read an article from a (black) professor at my old business school. It was about how pervasive “unconscious racism” is and how there need to be special laws and firms should hire special consultants (her) for fat fees to make sure they aren’t practicing “unconscious racism.” People like her have a vested interest in perpetuating the problem. In fact, she built a career on it.
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“unconscious racism” is the vilest of arguments used by lying Liberals, especially lying Black Liberals. It is Kafkatrapping.
All charges of white racism are by default bogus, until proven otherwise. Black racism, however, is on full display, each and every day.
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Let’s not forget:
Men hold nearly all the dangerous and dirty jobs. 95% of workplace deaths and nearly the same number of workplace injuries are men. If a woman holds physically demanding job such as sanitation engineer (garbage man, bin man in the UK), does she expect to do less work and still be paid the same? yes
Youtuber manwomanmyth has a superb video series on this topic.
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Subbed to their channel. Films are only 5-10 min too, so you can fit them in anywhere.
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@Doug1111
Were you previously known as Doug1? Enjoy your posts.
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Yuup.
Wordress made a change a month or two ago such that if I use in commenting my main private email that I used to set up a dummy wordpress account for some reason, it forces me to log into wordpress and then automatically fills in that user name. Go figure.
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I still don’t believe people believe the wage gap is real.
The fact that female business owner earn half of what men do is indicative of the fact that this is BS. They don’t have a boss, they pay themselves.
It makes me wonder if women are overpaid for the value they offer because companies are scared of legal actions.
I sure as hell know as a business owner I go for the solution thats economically beneficial for me, I don’t care if the employee is a women, man, or a penguin as long as they get the job done.
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I know chicks who bitch about the wage gap all the time. They really mean it. I just shake my head…
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Yes I’m convinced women are on average overpaid in America for the reasons you state.
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USA today is running a similar story today, spreading the propaganda.
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LMAO Bitches be cuntplaining of wages lulululullzlzlzlzllzlzlzlzlzlllolollululzlzlzl.
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“So why, given that these facts have been out there for years, do feminists like President Obama continue sticking their fingers in their ears and lying through their teeth?”
Votes.
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Women earn MORE than men. Link was great,. I HATE this endless LIE.
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There’s no racial pay gap either, when you exclude billionaires and ghetto fabulous omega males, and take account of purchasing power and fertility differences.
Well, Asians and Jews DO statistically come out ahead, but everyone knows that and it’s a function of culture anyway.
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“Once you control for…”
Doesn’t that require math?
Do you really expect women to understand something that requires math?
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lol
that list of what things they could buy if the wage gap didn’t exist looks a bit wrong to me.
shouldn’t it look more like this?
makeup
shoes
handbags
jewelry
phone accessories
fake nails
birth control
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Nerds rejoice!
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Beta because of the way he mumbled embarrassedly about it. An alpha would be more cocky and smug
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No, it’s fine (good even) to show some vulnerability. Being cocky about World of Warcraft will make you come off as a hardcore aspie nerd.
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Correct. Bit of fake embarrassment here, a lot of alpha elsewhere.
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But, but,..wait, I thought the end of Hypergamy was near?
http://www.amazon.com/The-Richer-Sex-Breadwinners-Transforming/dp/1439197717/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332932896&sr=8-1/marginalrevol-20
What about the End of Men?
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/07/the-end-of-men/8135/
SquwaK!! “Pay Gap!” SquwaK! ” Glass Ceiling!”
But,.. don’t 20-something women earn 117% what their male peers earn. 60% of college students are female?
SquwaaaK! “71¢ on a Dollar, 71¢ on a Dollar!!”
Get your stories straight ladies; either it’s economic triumphal feminism or it’s economic patriarchal oppression you don’t get both.
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They love to gloat about it.
Burn, burn, burn them–with kerosene.
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“I’ve also read that when you compare pay between males and females in a single industry, the pay gap is exactly equal to the increase men negotiate for themselves.
Something women never do. They accept the offered salary, and wait for pay rises as they are offered. Men go after more money aggressively.” – Mrs
Firstly, I would like to know just who keeps accurate statistics on what proportion of pay is a result of negotiation and what isn’t. Are employers obliged to report to the department of labor every time an employee drops into their office for an informal chat about a pay rise?
Secondly, don’t you think it is a pretty remarkable fluke that in most industries the productivity and abilities of male and female workers are virtually identical, save for one variable that is responsible for nearly all differences in pay? According to you, it would seem that the sexes are pretty identical and interchangeable with one crucial exception. Men are greedy money-grubbers while women are noble, self-sacrificing, saints. No doubt anyone who has witnessed the divorce industry or similar contemporary shakedown rackets would testify to the kernel of truth in your stereotypes of the sexes!
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You’re stupid.
Also since when is it money grubbing to make sure you’re being paid what you are worth by aggressively negotiating for better pay and pay rises?
Dumbass.
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“I would like to know just who keeps accurate statistics on what proportion of pay is a result of negotiation and what isn’t”
A lot of HR departments and headhunters do. When I was a headhunter, the men would try to negotiate their salary upwards about 80% of the time. Women, on the other hand, only did that 10% of the time. That made placing women a lot easier in some industries, because you knew that they wouldn’t give you any hassle, they’d accept it or they wouldn’t (and they almost always did). I used to hate certain kinds of IT placements because the overwhelmingly-male profession saw contract negotiation as a validation of their careers.
Of course, those women who did aggressively negotiate, I noticed, often weren’t willing to compromise and got dropped after a second or third offer was presented. One woman in sales was so convinced of what she was worth (even in a rural Southern market) that she pushed the client to the brink . . . and then fell in. While he appreciated her negotiating skills she didn’t know how to take ‘yes’ for an answer, and so got passed over.
It really depends on the field, however. The fact is the labor market is gender skewed, and looking at any particular metric isn’t going to tell you the whole story. And I think men will be a lot more eager to consider things like pay equity seriously when there is also equity in the number of jobs where men are regularly killed and maimed in the performance of their duties.
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I think women do indeed want family and marriage more than career. But once in a while you have someone like suzy welch who hits jackpot,and it makes women greedy and think they can have it all, forgetting there is only one Jack Welch among thousands of men.
It’s not a practical strategy at all…but try explaining that to women.
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Is it family and marriage they really want, or a sucker to go out and work harder than they do and let them spend the money?
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Women are notoriously bad at probabilities.
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yeah, you know, it’s cool to study a field in which the founding principles are lies. It’s as if my first day in mechanical engineering, they said “first, you are required to maintain the fiction that wet is dry and to ostracise anyone who suggests otherwise. Ok, now that we got that out of the way, today’s lesson: calculus.”
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“Now, I want you to understand that annuities are deeply offensive to sensitive groups within the community. Talk of annuities can be very offensive for minorities and therefore I will fail anyone who brings them up in their papers. This also goes for the CAPM.”
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Listen. Don’t over think or obsess over this female stuff. Just remember a few things:
1. We live in a cesspool of lies.
2. Learn the truth, but don’t tell other people you know the truth. Knowledge is power.
3. Women are merciless, hypergamous, and amoral.
4. A woman doesn’t owe you anything.
5. You don’t owe a woman anything.
6. Don’t sign anything.
7. Make money
8. Know the applicable laws.
Expecting truth and fairness from women is like expecting it from politicians. It just won’t happen. Fairness is when they have everything they want. If you have nothing, no problem. Think about reproductive rights.
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http://www.equalityrightsalliance.org.au/news/community-sector-hails-equal-pay-case-decision
surprised you hadn’t noted this test case in Australia – the “court” accepted the unions claim that “women’s jobs” were less well paid because they were “women’s” … discuss
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Gramps
Listen. Don’t over think or obsess over this female stuff. Just remember a few things:
1. We live in a cesspool of lies.
2. Learn the truth, but don’t tell other people you know the truth. Knowledge is power.”””””””
learning the truth blows
especially when everything is a fucking lie
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