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The Excel Spreadsheet Guy And His Female Equivalent

April 20, 2012 by CH

Over at GLPiggy’s, he has a pretty good post up about the feminist haranguing of a guy who revealed he keeps an Excel spreadsheet of his dates.

This is a pattern lately. Yet another anti-male two minute hate posing as female wisdom and prerogative. Are we reaching peak feminism? My tireless efforts have not cut them off at the knees yet, but they do vomit their drivel with a little more impotent urgency nowadays, so perhaps they sense the fanged maw of the underground media breathing down their hunched backs.

Anyhow, lost in all this is a sane recognition that men’s and women’s brains are wired differently, and that the tools each sex uses to get what they want are optimized along these distinct mental paths. Women also use an Excel spreadsheet to categorize and itemize their dating prospects: it’s called nicknames. Women are very good at assigning cutesy little nicks to men they date — “the doctor”, “bad breath guy”, “shiny shoes guy”, “the comedian”, etc — and given that women are naturally better multi-taskers than men, it’s easier for them to keep all this Excel-like data in their heads, to be regurgitated amongst female friends over mimosa brunches.

Men, in contrast, are single-taskers and object-oriented, less innately proficient at storing reams of personal data about women, and less likely to discuss their dating travails with male friends over brunch. The only female characteristic that men seem pretty good at remembering is women’s looks; so if women want men to date more “intuitively”, that is, more like women, then they have to be prepared to accept that male intuition hinges largely on objectifying women by their bodies and facial prettiness. I wonder if women would be pleased if men adopted their dating categorization methods and proudly humored the rabble congregating on the male version of feminist group blogs with all the cutesy nicks they come up with — “big boobed broad”, “leaky pits girl”, “butch haircut”, “wide load”, “pancake ass”.

Finally, it should be noted that way more under-30 women than men even *get an opportunity* to date more than one suitor at a time. Female hypergamy knows no upper bound absent harsh market rebuke, so a woman in her prime will date many men at once, culling the prospects free until one or two are left standing. But men, the majority of them unimpressive betas with no game, are lucky to get a date with one woman at a time, and many men often go months or years getting no dates at all. Under these natural conditions, molded over eons of evolution dividing the sexes into algorithmic psychological opposites, men have had no need to evolve the intuitive, multi-tasking brain for categorizing a large number of female prospects at once. This dating opportunity paucity, combined with the instant visual cues of reproductive health that predominantly guide men’s mating decisions, results in a dearth of talent for storing a lot of personality information about different women.

I think the real reason Excel Spreadsheet Guy has “creeped out” feminists is because he is one of these beta males to break the mold by dating multiple women concurrently. In other words, he’s not accepting his role as beta male quietly. Feminists see the inner world of a man who has managed to crack the girl code that typically allows beta males like himself only one woman at a time, if they’re lucky, and they are shocked… shocked!… that a man of such pedestrian station in life would dare to date like women do — greedily, boundlessly, diffusely, capriciously, like a woman on a shopping spree.

Why would women deem this guy a beta? The spreadsheet is the systematizing giveaway. Alpha males who have years of experience getting what they want from women develop a womanly sixth sense for intuitively categorizing their prey prospects. They don’t need the crutch of the spreadsheet…

(though in point of fact not a few pickup artists have been known to keep Karen Owen’s type journals of their clientele — and, by the way, where was the equivalent feminist creeprage over Owens? after all, what she did is no different, in fact worse, than what Excel Spreadsheet guy did)

…because alpha males 1. are familiar with the female archetypes and 2. understand that charming aloofness is more attractive to women than gallant powers of recall.

So what we have here is a failure to contain the female id. The true crime is not the spreadsheet; it’s the gall of a beta male stepping outside his preassigned role to extract what only the top 20% alpha males are permitted to extract. There’s nothing like a disturbance in the force to get the Darth Vaginas shrieking hysterically.

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  1. on April 20, 2012 at 3:06 pm Chuck Rudd

    Firepower cried.

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      • on April 21, 2012 at 12:59 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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    • on April 21, 2012 at 10:40 am Firepower

      c-rudd
      That’s what I’m taking away from the latest faux-outrage

      Actually, your writing skill
      is perfect for documenting
      faux outrage

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      • on April 23, 2012 at 12:32 pm Chuck Rudd

        you know something about writing skill? funny guy.

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      • on April 23, 2012 at 1:22 pm Firepower

        At least you
        find me
        funny

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    • on April 21, 2012 at 2:37 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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      • on April 21, 2012 at 2:38 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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      • on April 23, 2012 at 1:17 pm Firepower

        Hot women mate with
        Hot alphas – result:
        Hot sons

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  2. on April 20, 2012 at 3:09 pm theprivateman

    There is nothing wrong with keeping a spreadsheet because online dating requires a fair degree of organization. The guy’s problem was that he let the spreadsheet hit the interwebz. Dumb ass.

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  3. on April 20, 2012 at 3:12 pm beta_plus

    Excel guy has found an arbitrage opportunity to optimize and maximize his Alpha Fucks while minimizing his Beta Bucks.

    That’s why the hamster is so scared.

    Term shamelessly stolen from GBFM.

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    • on April 21, 2012 at 3:14 pm Anonymous

      Heh… Good call, that. The only problem lies in that few can ever go anywhere with arbitrage. I’m impressed he figured it out; but like with the market, most will simply get pasted in the medium to long run playing the arbitrage game.

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      • on April 23, 2012 at 12:51 pm beta_plus

        You sound like a fellow finance major 😉

        I was going to go for a CAPM joke, but I figured that might be a bit too obscure.

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  4. on April 20, 2012 at 3:13 pm Anon

    Instinctual revulsion to tool use?

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  5. on April 20, 2012 at 3:16 pm A.B. Dada

    Dating even one gal, it makes sense to keep a crib sheet of data just so you can flip on the soft-beta mode to keep her off balance.

    There’s plenty of software to manage the spinning of plates — from ovulation cycles to birthdays/anniversaries, etc.

    I admit that I kept a spreadsheet for a few years, mostly because I was spinning too many plates at once and needed to have some recollection of who I did what with and what they were about. After I outgrew that phase (and I think most guys can probably live that lifestyle for decades, it was just too much work for me), I stopped updating it, but it saved my ass more than once.

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    • on April 20, 2012 at 10:35 pm geo

      Ovulation cycles: having that information would be well worth the effort of keeping a spreadsheet.

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      • on April 21, 2012 at 7:10 am bobsutan

        Check out the I Am Man app for the iPhone.

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  6. on April 20, 2012 at 3:19 pm Brian

    Latest girlfriend admitted recently that her nickname for me was “Hot Jerk” after our first date. That’s definitely one I’m comfortable with.

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  7. on April 20, 2012 at 3:21 pm maurice

    peak feminism

    like peak oil? Hm. Reserves of the stuff bubbling up from the collective social unconscious ooze, reshaping society via vast administrative/legislative scaffolding to extract resources, then gradually running out? Hm again. Not exact, but interesting- and of course you didn’t mean an exact parallel, just noodling it out. Main difference might be the peak in price- as oil supply dwindles in the face of increasing damand, theprice is expected to skyrocket in the peak-oil scenario. In Peak feminism? How do supply and demand match up? Supply is the lib elites, intrest/pressure groups, acadmia, media, etc.- demand is… where? All teh females who benefit from the redistributive apapratus and ritual media demonization of men? And the males that enable them. Not exactly the makings of a market price. Perhaps in the marketplace of ideas it’s just worn itself out, and all that remains is the power-grab aspects. That’s a falling price of a kind, though.

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    • on April 20, 2012 at 9:10 pm Laconophile

      Peak feminism = Feminism has nowhere to go but down

      I’m not that optimistic. There hasn’t yet been (literal) forced castration of men and implantation of their balls on women. I think that is the endgame of feminism.

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  8. on April 20, 2012 at 3:39 pm Winn

    Women hate betas and when they see one rise they try to strike him down. Good on this man for taking what he has and adapting to the dating environment.

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    • on April 21, 2012 at 12:34 am Popfizzled

      Women seem to like static pecking orders that don’t ever change. Once they’ve pegged someone as beta they want them to stay that way. To be fair they also seem to hate other women improving themselves as well. I think because they arent naturally competitive they like to restrict competition to secure where they, the current alpha males, and their friends are at in the pecking order. Female animals appear to be the same way. I’ve watched female lions on documentaries only grudgingly accept the new alpha male because it means risk of death otherwise.

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  9. on April 20, 2012 at 3:42 pm chi-town

    I would create a macro for girls who say “creepy” with some frequency and automatically tabulate them under “hate fucking only on week nights”.

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    • on April 20, 2012 at 6:00 pm Libertardian

      @chi-town and Winn

      “Creepy” seems to be their invariable adjective for any beta who makes a run at the prison wall. A lot of them used it to describe Neil Strauss’ book. It’s nebulous, immediately puts betas on the defensive, and is therefore a weapon that was made to order for the feminazi arsenal.

      The mentality reminds me of the looters and moochers in Atlas Shrugged. Looters think wealth is a static quantity that can’t be added to, but only inherited, begged, or stolen. Likewise women detest the idea that betas could ever sneak into the alpha caste by something so underhanded as learning how women think.

      At the same time they remain bizarrely convinced they can become more attractive by acquiring more education and career status, which feminazism has taught them is more dignified than working on the female equivalent of game.

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      • on April 21, 2012 at 1:23 pm Fred Rotten

        @ chi-town & Lib

        I’m so repelled by women’s use of “creepy” that I REFLEXIVELY lose all interest in them the moment it’s uttered. I mean, it’s not even so much that it makes me feel anger or headslap-grade gayness. Rather it’s a genuine and involuntary *physics-based repulsion*, like when you try to stick two magnets together.

        Women probably do not understand that when they say “creepy,” they are committing the female equivalent of the “My Video for Briona” horror show (“I love you more than there are grains of sand, on every beach, of every planet, of every galaxy, of the universe…You mean more to me than gold and diamonds mean to the greediest burglar; and, you’re the most perfect, most beautiful girl in all of the world.”).

        Ladies, please watch this video to break yourselves of the awful habit of using the term “creepy” and/or any of it’s variants– keep in mind that HE is YOUR our YOU! (*you* figure that out… I just woke up, dammit)

        (NOTE: I don’t know how to properly embed a link, so I simply copied and pasted it in. If it doesn’t work, go to YouTube and type “My Video for Briona” in the search bar.)

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      • on April 24, 2012 at 7:19 pm driveallnight

        Fred, in SEA I have yet to hear a woman utter the dreaded “C-word” once. (I refuse to put that damn word in print while posting from here. Ever see that movie “28 Days Later”? I’m not going down in history like those PETA jackasses.)

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      • on April 26, 2012 at 12:38 pm Fred Rotten

        driveallnight,
        No, haven’t seen “28 Days Later” but now my curiosity has been piqued.

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    • on April 20, 2012 at 10:47 pm kidbourbon

      Good post.

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  10. on April 20, 2012 at 3:46 pm doug1111

    It was beta type dumb to give it to a girl he liked. Part of it’s utility presumably was that it allowed him to remember, supposedly unaided, details she’d told him with it taking a lot of time to go back thought the gchats etc.

    It’s even dumber (less aware of female behavior) to think there wasn’t a very good chance she would share it with girlfriends.

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  11. on April 20, 2012 at 3:58 pm Anon

    The fembots are getting their panties in a bunch because:

    1. Spreadsheet = too much effort = not part of Secret Society.

    Women prefer alpha cads who don’t even bother to remember anything in particular about their conga line of sluts. No memory = no ability to slut shame.

    2. Even if he was alpha, women prefer Plausible Deniability.

    They want to believe their cad is popular with women, but don’t want to actually to see a spreadsheet of the women he has spread.

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  12. on April 20, 2012 at 4:02 pm Firepower

    Over at GLPiggy’s, he has a pretty good post

    No shit? Well, every Great Man has his weakness. But, if it’s that he’s got dirt on you, I know someone who’ll help!

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  13. on April 20, 2012 at 4:03 pm Mexican Pete

    The man was a fool, but I feel sorry for him. Strange how no one is deploring the conduct of the “lady” who, having received the buffoon’s spreadsheet in confidence, chose to make it viral; thus humiliating the poor man in front of millions of people. There is no sign that she has apologized for leaking it.

    In a more civilized time, no woman would be sadistic enough to publish embarassing letters from a suitor (which the spreadsheet is a modern-day version of). But we, this happy breed, live in the age of Sandra Fluke and the Huffington post being awarded Pulitzers.

    The savagery of the press towards this man is baffling: He’s done no one any harm, but he’s being subjected to a far higher level of vitriol than any murderer or crooked politician.

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  14. on April 20, 2012 at 4:04 pm Firepower

    heartiste
    My tireless efforts have not cut them off at the knees yet, but they do vomit their drivel with a little more impotent urgency nowadays

    Because white reproduction has declined, they’re shouting to reach the hispanics: Think of it as shouting at your Mexican lawncutter so he’ll understand English.

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  15. on April 20, 2012 at 4:18 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

    lzozozozozozozo

    i knows what yous means! excel spread sheets!!!

    i excel at getting chix to spread on my sheets!!!

    zlzozooozz

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  16. on April 20, 2012 at 4:18 pm Senior Beta

    Beta or no, anyone who reads this site and practices what the man preaches will likely need something like Excel.

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  17. on April 20, 2012 at 4:29 pm OverTheTop

    Just on the topic of dating and managing multiple dates, I must ask, and here is a fundamental flaw of mine as someone who games. I fuck up phone game terribly. What I mean is, my game is tailored for one night stands, and quick seduction, but when I try to use phone game to continue being with a one night stand as more of a continuous booty call, or even just a prospective lay whom I’ve gotten the number of, I feel like I get shafted.

    Usually I can maintain momentum, understand text game rules, but setting up a date seems to be a giant flaw for me and after she rejects the offer or flakes out, I don’t know where to go from there. I’d say about thirty percent of the numbers I get and the women I have banged continue speaking to me/having sex with me. So, I must assume that it’s because my phone game must be really shitty. Any fixer uppers on this topic?

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    • on April 21, 2012 at 10:33 am James

      One night stands don’t usually want to be with you since they’ll know you think they’re a slut.

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    • on April 22, 2012 at 5:19 am Anonymous

      If you are not getting repeat business one has to wonder about your sex game.

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      • on April 23, 2012 at 1:17 pm OverTheTop

        Definitely valid points, but setting aside the one night stand aspect, I find it hard to get dates out of phone game after incredibly good vibes when getting a number. I’m convinced my game upon meeting a girl is incredibly solid, but once I get to the phone game, I get flakes. I find it hard to keep the girl staying warm through phone.

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  18. on April 20, 2012 at 4:30 pm AHE

    I rarely read Jezebel — I’ll take your word they consider themselves feminists — but, if so, what’s funny about the article is it doesn’t reek of the strident tone of feminism at all. It’s just girls being girls, laughing at the nerd with the spreadsheet. The chick that wrote this article might even be cute.

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    • on April 20, 2012 at 5:48 pm Holden Caulfield

      to quote the GBFM: “You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unbuttplugged. And many of them are so inured to butthex, so hopelessly dependent on the system of secretive tapings of butthex without tehir conthent, that they will fight to protect it and reapet the lies of secretive tapers of butthex in teh pages of the weekly standard even though they seem to be nice neocon ladies.”

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      • on April 23, 2012 at 1:20 pm Firepower

        Holden Caulfield giggled:

        to quote the GBFM: “You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unbuttplugged.

        Regular
        John Stuart Mill(s)
        the both
        of ye

        I can see it now: This New Anthem for the Ages
        The rabble, storming the Bastille with
        protests signs
        printed with
        poop

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    • on April 20, 2012 at 11:04 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      lzoozzl dude what the fuck?

      she might be cute. be might be buttfuck ugly.

      you might be cute. you might be buttfuickk uggly zlozozozo

      what the fuck is your point? lzozzoz

      someteimes i wish all you fuckers zz woudl stops posting your asinines bullshit menaingless emeaningedering musings which detratc from da gbfm’s brlalianaiance and wisdomsz zz lzozlzozlzozooz

      i mean rwe could be so much furteher ahead now were it not for the beta buttboyz going, “wgaahahha whahhahah amaybe she’s cute?” and then jerking of tehir ttiny cock while thiking of the cute jezebeleez authors zlzzozlzo

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      • on April 21, 2012 at 4:37 am AHE

        Lest I remind you, GBFM, I was the original interviewer who put you on the map, motherfucker.

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    • on April 21, 2012 at 5:11 am AHE

      My point is, this is an article by girls for girls saying “OMG, this loser is trying to use a spreadsheet for his loser social life! OMG!!!!”

      It isn’t feminist in the least. The feminists laboriously complain about sexism in the workplace & on the elevator & in Hollywood. They pretend that “real men” are the inverse of what fans of this site agree are “real men”. Yet here we have an example we can all agree on: this guy was a beta idiot to broadcast his male nerd side to the distaff. The girls then laughed at him like a bunch of mean middle-school girls would, exactly as they should. It’s evidence of how much they hate, hate, hate betas.

      Judging by this article, the Jezebel chicks are further evidence that Heartiste is right. They are repulsed by nerdy betas but love them some alpha cock. Are we sure Jezebel isn’t a sister site to this one?

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  19. on April 20, 2012 at 4:31 pm Lara

    Once a bachelor hits about 28 years old, he turns into such a jerk.

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    • on April 20, 2012 at 5:47 pm Eric

      Not everyone can be a natural. Some guys are just late bloomers.

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      • on April 21, 2012 at 3:09 am LionSoul

        Or ‘flowers’ that never bloomed due the overbearing shadow of true Alphas around them and their internal belief system.

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      • on April 22, 2012 at 11:07 am Just a Girl

        I like when they’re playful but not going out of their way to be offensive.

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      • on April 22, 2012 at 10:19 pm Anonymous

        Lara, It took me an extra 8 years and change. I’ve always been a late bloomer.

        Eric–Well played.

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    • on April 22, 2012 at 12:01 pm itsme

      it’s probably around that age when a lot of guys realize that being nice got them nowhere with girls.

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    • on April 22, 2012 at 3:13 pm YB

      Which is why around age 28, guy’s attractiveness starts to outstrip girls waning looks.

      Now be honest (or don’t lie to yourself, at least) – that jerk makes your panties drip with lust.

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      • on April 30, 2012 at 9:48 am Just a Girl

        Sometimes he does; it depends on what sort of jerk. Good-natured teasing can be fun. It shows me the man is up for a bit of banter, which is great for building sexual tension. When he’s deliberately being offensive, though, he is displaying traits I go out of my way to avoid, as well as showing me that he’s displeased with me upon meeting me, which means we don’t have much chance of being compatible.

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  20. on April 20, 2012 at 4:32 pm Rick Derris

    I see nothing wrong with what this guy did. So he was keeping notes, big f-ing deal. He’s probably in a rat-race job in NYC and is forgetful due to job stress. It’s not like any of the skanks on Match.com are even that memorable anyway. I’ve run into women several times that I’ve met before and completely forgotten who they were.

    The whole Gawker media “empire” is garbage. I started reading Jalopnik and the, um, “men” who write there are the biggest bunch of fruits I’ve ever seen writing about cars.

    If these reporters should complain about anything, it should be about the woman who shared a private email from this guy with her bitch friends. Good going sister – you just ruined a guy’s life in the short term for a laugh. Nice job you c*nt.

    I truly hope that the building hosting the Jizzabel servers burns to the ground.

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    • on April 22, 2012 at 12:05 pm itsme

      his mistake was sending the spreadsheet to the girl.

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  21. on April 20, 2012 at 4:42 pm Thermal

    Funny, none of the articles I’ve read mention these ladies: http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-11-29/news/30453560_1_match-com-roommates-japanese-restaurant

    They also had a spreadsheet of the men they ripped off, but I think that’s okay cause they were women and were taking advantage of men. Who actually still believes that feminists fight for equality?

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  22. on April 20, 2012 at 4:46 pm Retrenched

    It’s hilarious how women will date multiple men at once, then become outraged when they learn that some of those men are dating other women.

    Plate spinning for me, but not for thee…

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  23. on April 20, 2012 at 4:48 pm doug1111

    Is there a way you can let the comments of frequent commenters none of whole comments you’ve ever not go through or erase, go through without prior moderation? When you’re not around your blog it really knocks out conversation around here these days.

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  24. on April 20, 2012 at 4:50 pm Stuki

    On a somewhat less highflying note, both men (virtually all betas and even some particularly natural alphas) and women (virtually all), have a worldview that still clings to the notion of some magical ingredient in what they deem “love”. And that going systematically after the outer trappings of it, instead of leaving it to supposed chance, is somehow not playing fair; hence taking advantage of the other party(ies).

    Nevermind this vision of romantic love evolved in an environment of lifelong marriage to young virgins; instead of a culture defined primarily by serial pillaging of more or less consenting cumbuckets.

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    • on April 21, 2012 at 3:11 am LionSoul

      Amen.

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  25. on April 20, 2012 at 5:03 pm T

    I discovered this blog last year – I was a twenty-one years old, and a virgin… a typical ‘nice guy’. I was raised in a Christian family and developed into a beta who was, in all honesty, pathetic with woman. (I once bought a girl an expensive present for Christmas – needless to say, it didn’t work. I was utterly miserable.)

    Thankfully, that has all changed. I look back and laugh at stories like the one above. This blog has transformed my sex life.

    I’ve read pretty much every post on this blog and just wanted to direct aspiring alphas to what I feel is a really underrated post: https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2011/01/11/just-say-something/.

    Developing the ability/confidence to just open my gob and say something has been a game-changer for me.

    If in doubt, you can always fall back on this opener:

    “*Ask generic question*… actually, I don’t care about XYZ – I just wanted an excuse to flirt with you.”

    In some situations, I find it’s difficult for a girl to give you her number (such as when she’s at work). In these instances, I’ve started handing out my business card instead, but each to their own… the main thing is to just say something.

    Honestly, it’s made a huge difference to my sex life.

    P.S. Quick question for the genuine alphas with game (otherwise ignore)…

    I’ve been seeing a girl for two months. When we met, I wasn’t looking for a girlfriend and expressed this to her. We see each other every ten days or so, for sex. I only ever text her to arrange when we’ll next be hooking up – she only ever texts when when she’s drunk (not every time she’s drunk, but sometimes)… she never initiates texts, otherwise.

    I’ve never met a chick like this before. Maybe she doesn’t text because I told her I’m not looking for anything serious or maybe she’s texting other guys instead…

    Either way, she’s always very responsive when I text her and when I see her in person.

    Anyway, I’ve enjoyed playing the field, but would like to an exclusive girlfriend in the future – and I’m starting to see her as girlfriend material.

    Obviously, guys shouldn’t escalate the status of a relationship, but is there anything subtle I can do to frame a boyfriend-girlfriend outcome?

    I’m busy for the next four weeks, but afterwards I might try seeing her more often. (It just bothers me that she has the restraint to not text me.)

    Any helpful advice will be appreciated.

    All the best chaps,

    T.

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    • on April 20, 2012 at 6:29 pm Anon

      “she never initiates texts, otherwise. I’ve never met a chick like this before. Maybe she doesn’t text because… maybe she’s texting other guys instead…”

      Girl that doesn’t act like other girls? Doesn’t hang all over you? Possibly seeing other guys? Boo-yah! Got YOUR hamster going. Next thing, you’ll be falling for her…

      “Anyway, I’ve enjoyed playing the field, but would like to an exclusive girlfriend… and I’m starting to see her as girlfriend material.”

      BAM. Beta hamster in overdrive.

      “Obviously, guys shouldn’t escalate the status of a relationship, but is there anything subtle I can do to frame a boyfriend-girlfriend outcome?”

      Hmm… a girl behaves like a good fuck buddy and all of the sudden she’s “girlfriend material” and you want a *gasp* relationship? You’re too funny.

      Lesson: if a girl behaves like a girlfriend, she might be a girlfriend; if a girl behaves like a fuck buddy, she’s a fuck buddy.

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      • on April 21, 2012 at 3:18 pm corvinus

        Hmm… a girl behaves like a good fuck buddy and all of the sudden she’s “girlfriend material” and you want a *gasp* relationship? You’re too funny.

        He sounds just like, well, a girl.

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    • on April 20, 2012 at 8:26 pm gunner451

      You want to make a F***buddy your GF? Lord knows how many other guys she’s stringing along or how many hot dogs have been in that bun warmer. Sluts usually don’t make very good GF material but if you like drama, being cheated on and wondering who else is raw dogging her then go for it.

      Would suggest that you at least find someone that at least sees you as alpha enough that she at least tries to pretend she’s not a slut … except for you.

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      • on April 22, 2012 at 11:10 am Just a Girl

        What’s wrong with reliable arm candy he enjoys having around? It’s not like there’s anything forcing him to be faithful to her.

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    • on April 21, 2012 at 5:30 am gregg

      POWER of women over betas (95 percent of men). She is just a hole, fuck buddy, even behaves that way…and you are considering her GF material?!!!

      Unless men manage to reach inner freedom WITHOUT WOMEN, we all – alpha, beta, omega, chump, jerk, asshole, pua, are just a poor slaves to our little chicks, my friends.

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    • on April 21, 2012 at 5:50 am Mexican Pete

      T,

      You’re a lucky man to find this site early on in your career. And you seem to be making rapid progress.

      In relation to your question, I’m going to be blunt: Don’t do it. She’s probably a perfectly nice lady, but “friends with benefits” rarely make suitable girlfriends. They just don’t value themselves enough. Same with one night stand girls. Never get serious with an easy girl. If you do, you’ll see the day when she leaves you for a DJ

      Heartiste has a maxim that said that Betas are most vulnerable to misjudging the nature of women. You’re on the path to alphadom, but we all make mistakes. Think of this as a slight relapse, that’s all

      So don’t make her your girlfriend.

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      • on April 24, 2012 at 6:54 pm T

        +1

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    • on April 21, 2012 at 9:24 am T

      She’s very much a relationship girl. She’s had two long-term boyfriends and this is her first time being single… we’re only fuck buddies because that’s how I framed the relationship when we met.

      The way I’ve described the situation makes her sound like a slut, but she’s actually the type of girl you’d bring home to your mum.

      Thanks for your advice, anyway.

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    • on April 21, 2012 at 11:05 am Anonymous

      T.

      I think your best bet to lock her down is to insinuate that you are prospecting other girls.

      1) leave earrings or hair clips on your nightstand that aren’t yours. Have some plausible deniability to go with this.
      2) shoot her a random text but make it seem like it was intended for another girl. Have some plausible deniability.
      3) be proactive and keep seeking other girls to date. It will help ease your potential with this one and no doubt give you an aura that you are in high demand.
      4) let her see you casually flirting with girls if you top are out.

      I think if you exhibit some of these behaviors that your main prospect could sense competition and eithe be more aggressive in gaining your intimacy OR go cold on you. Each potential outcome is optimal in my book but only if don’t get butthurt over the latter.

      I hope this helps.

      -Oscar S.

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    • on April 21, 2012 at 12:57 pm Anon

      LOL.
      You learned game, but you didn’t learn how to screen for gfs.That’s typical Mystery-level PUA shit. You need to upgrade to Heartiste-level.

      Fuck buddies and sluts should remain fuck buddies. If you don’t know what it takes for a girl to be a girlfriendf, or if you’re not attracted to the kind of girls you KNOW would make good gfs, then you’re not ready for a LTR.

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    • on April 22, 2012 at 3:04 pm user4543

      “I’m starting to see her as girlfriend material.”

      You’re kidding right? You just said “she only ever texts when when she’s drunk (not every time she’s drunk, but sometimes)… she never initiates texts, otherwise.”

      “I’ve never met a chick like this before.”

      I have. Words of advice: you can’t turn a whore into a housewife.

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    • on April 22, 2012 at 10:24 pm (R)Evoluzione

      Dude, you’re 22ish. Don’t think about a serious GF now. Don’t get one-its for your fuckbuddy. Just keep approaching, keep working on your self-confidence, and learn to read women. If you really want a girlfriend, you’ve got to A. show enough value that they want to earn it, and B, you have to make sure she earns it.

      Keep spinning plates, keep learning, keep improving yourself. Make sure you focus on your career plenty, get paid, and continue improving in all aspects. Don’t settle, especially not for a girl who’s your booty call.

      Also–give yourself credit for making a move that a lot of men aren’t capable of. Bravo. Now get back to opening new girls, and practicing your conversational skills.

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    • on April 23, 2012 at 4:34 pm T

      I was with her last night. She dropped a hint that she’s looking for something more serious – she said she’d start taking the pill (so we could have unprotected sex) if we became exclusive. (“It’s complicated,” I said. Then I changed the subject swiftly.)

      Anyway, I’ve given the situation some thought and realised I like the *idea* of her wanting to be my girlfriend rather than actually wanting her as a girlfriend. She’s also a model, so it’s partly ego on my part, too.

      I guess I just like the thrill of the chase.

      I’m busy with my own agenda for the next three weeks, so I won’t be paying attention to this girl (except for *maybe* one call/text to keep things sweet). It will be interesting to see if/how she responds.

      Thanks to the commentors who actually helped (rather than just call me beta for starting to like a really hot girl).

      I will be taking (R)Evoluzione’s advice.

      All the best,

      T.

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  26. on April 20, 2012 at 5:04 pm Rodt

    Well the guy’s real crime was showing a woman the spreadsheet and thinking that anything good could come of that.

    I too kept a spreadsheet of sorts once upon a time. When I finally figured out online dating, I ended getting like 20-30 numbers over a 2-3 month period. Naturally I wanted to date them all, and my radar wasn’t so developed as to who was a prospect and who was wasting my time. Keeping track of who was who, when I last saw them, what their telephone numbers were, or what the girls were about was tough enough, and I certainly was very scared that I would confuse what I said to one girl with a different girl.

    Besides, wasn’t the little black book that players carried in days of yore sort of a spreadsheet?

    I’ve wondered what I would do if a woman I cared about banging discovered my little black book. I think I should treat any confrontation about this as just another shit test, no apologies, no weakness, and be prepared to walk if it got too intense.

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    • on April 20, 2012 at 5:38 pm corvinus

      Besides, wasn’t the little black book that players carried in days of yore sort of a spreadsheet?

      I’ve wondered what I would do if a woman I cared about banging discovered my little black book. I think I should treat any confrontation about this as just another shit test, no apologies, no weakness, and be prepared to walk if it got too intense.

      Nowadays, our little black books are our cell phones. For this reason, no man should let a woman who’s seeing him hold his cell phone, unless she needs to call someone and it’s an emergency, and he’s right there.

      I keep an Excel spreadsheet of my Facebook friends, a holdover from my beta days, because the website actually ranks your friends in order of how it perceives is best, 2nd best, 3rd best, and so on, and I was able to figure out how to get the order. I do it for kicks, but it also gives me a hint as to who is always checking my page. (I don’t check other people’s pages much at all, one reason because I don’t feel like it as I’ve become more alpha, but also so as not to mess with Facebook’s algorithm. Haw haw.)

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    • on April 21, 2012 at 1:25 am Fearless

      I just received an actual little black book as a gift recently. Only started using it last week, but I feel great everytime I add to it. Along with her number I write in where we met, what she looked like, and what she wore. Excel may be easier, but you take your place along side other great players throughout time with the book.

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    • on April 23, 2012 at 1:05 pm chi-town

      No worse than revealing your emotions or fantasy’s to women. You can give them glimpses, but never just open the book. It will be used against you. Props to my girlfriend in high school to taught me this by demonstrating how to misuse everything I ever told her.

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  27. on April 20, 2012 at 5:05 pm William

    I don’t think the spreadsheet is the problem for them, but is him going on dates with multiple woman and judging the woman against one another.

    Like blogs about woman and game, woman hate to know that they’re being judged as harshly as they would judge a man.

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  28. on April 20, 2012 at 5:11 pm Popfizzled

    I bet in the near future feminists will start advising women to not be whores and wait until marriage to have sex, now that beta males with game are reliably able to get a piece of the pie that use to only be reserved to alpha males. Nothing seems to get under a woman’s skin like the thought that the charming man shes so attracted to might not be a natural alpha. Their plan of redistributing most of the pussy to alphas is turning into a epic failure, so dont be surprised when they suddenly want to roll it back.

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    • on April 20, 2012 at 6:18 pm Herzog

      Either way the betas win to some extent, the pendulum had to start swinging the other way eventually. I think feminism just caught men off guard for two generations or so.

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    • on April 20, 2012 at 6:34 pm Anonymous

      No its not, because the number of men consciously using Game is extremely low.

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  29. on April 20, 2012 at 5:17 pm trk

    Just think if he was caught using a relational database, then they would really flip out.

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    • on April 20, 2012 at 5:43 pm Libertardian

      Well played.

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    • on April 20, 2012 at 6:04 pm Dan Fletcher

      I lol’d

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    • on April 20, 2012 at 6:09 pm Dan Fletcher

      SELECT *
      FROM HOOD_RATS
      WHERE age = 19 AND shaved = True;

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    • on April 20, 2012 at 11:00 pm doug1111

      I have only a vague idea of what a relational database is, though I use them constructed for me and more my employees everyday. Heh.

      What other kind of data base is there in the last many years, for example?

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      • on April 23, 2012 at 6:11 pm Dan Fletcher

        Nothing really besides some growing interest in NoSQL databases. Though it remains unclear exactly where all that will lead and how much it could usurp traditional relational databases. Either way, relational databases will be around for a long time.

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    • on April 23, 2012 at 12:54 pm beta_plus

      LOL! Well done. It would bring a whole new meaning to a one-to-many relationship.

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  30. on April 20, 2012 at 5:25 pm Half Canadian

    His only mistake was sending it to the girl. He should of said no.

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    • on April 20, 2012 at 5:46 pm doug1111

      He shouldn’t have told her he had a spreadsheet data base re: ongoing or possible dates/hookups in the first place.

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      • on April 21, 2012 at 3:23 pm Anonymous

        Yep. This constitutes epic fuckups number one and two that this guy did there- and in reverse order from doug111 to Half-Canadian.

        What gets me is the whores all making a big deal about it for him and being dead silent on the skank that was screwing guys out of $1200 in expensive meals per month out of match.com’s pool of dateables. But then, most females will stand up and defend “one of their own” even if she’s a damn ax murderess in most cases.

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  31. on April 20, 2012 at 5:25 pm doclove

    This article is beautifully written for both content and style.

    I feel some sympathy for Karen Owens because she did not want her diary to be public, but when she sent it to her friend whom she thought she could hold in confidence, the friend betrayed her and sent it to the newsmedia and put it online. Karen Owens made a mistake which she then tried to hide from. Her friend’s female hypergamy displayed itself by insinuating that she was better for being wiser, smarter and more discrete as well as not being a slut like Karen Owen. I do agree that Karen Owens should have been smarter than this because it was in her interest to do so, but the bright side is now every man can know what she is like by just googling her name, then decide how he wants to handle her because he could have been informed. Karen Owens needed to learn whom to trust and whom not to, and it would have been better had she kept the written diary to herself and particularly not e-mailed anyone. I do agree with where was all the shrieking by the feminista-cunts, bungholed manginas and many others for comparing men and not securing her diary more adequately which she should have done? OH! Surprise! Not there!!!

    I was in South Korea off and on from 1996 to 2006 living and working there more often than being home in the USA. Young Korean women were notorious for “dating” many men at the same time, telling these men that she was only dating him or one man at a time, and usually not even there best friends or closest sisters even knew. Sometimes they got caught and the Korean men would beat eachother in a fight or one would beat her. It was interesting to watch a university age man beat a university age woman in the Seoul City subway for this when he caught her by slapping her on the back of her head while he stood over her with her bowing, kneeling and prostrating herself before him and apologizing to him with all of the commuters just passing the scene by and doing nothing about it.

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    • on April 20, 2012 at 5:49 pm Anon

      Why are you whiteknighting for that whore?

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      • on April 21, 2012 at 12:42 pm doclove

        Really guy, concerning Karen Owens, are you serious about me whiteknighting for her? I certainly did not white knight for Karen Owens. Re-read the paragraph. I said she should have either not written the diary(best option as there is no recorded trail to document her activities) or she should have kept it to herself which is a close second. Karen Owens trusted the wrong person and got fucked. What kind of even a friendly acquaintance or worse screws someone over like Karen owens’ friend did to Karen Owens without a truly justified compelling reason? The news media should have been metaphorically punched in the face and kicked in the groin a few times for considering it a news worthy story. The friend should have been metaphorically punched in the face a few times for giving the story to the news media and betraying Karen Owens. Yes, I have some but not a lot of sympathy for her because even though her piss poor thinking led to this embarrassment. She did not want this and went hiding for a while afterwards. Karen Owens was a foolish slut yet not malicious, but her friend and the news media were clever and malicious. Karen Owens should have been metaphorically slapped in head for being a fool. I feel the most sympathy for the Lacrosse team of young men who did nothing wrong and did not want the whole world to know their private lives by any means. I strongly dislike foolishness by people, but I hate maliciousness by people. You can be a better person like me by trying whether you are successful or unsuccessful to this one thing which is the next sentence and question by trying to answer it. Do you not know what, how, when, where, why and to whom to place the blame?

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      • on April 21, 2012 at 3:24 pm Anonymous

        Heh… Beta… Need I say more?

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      • on April 23, 2012 at 3:51 pm doclove

        Need I say more before I ignore you for your omega responses? Run, Hamster Bitch, Run!!!

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    • on April 20, 2012 at 6:32 pm Anon

      If women are willing to slut it up in a society where it’s ok to beat sluts in public, then what aren’t women in America willing to do?

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      • on April 21, 2012 at 12:53 pm doclove

        I agree with you there, and this is why I walked away from men who beat their wives and girlfriends in public for alleged slutting it up in South Korea. Some Koreans did it to avoid trouble with the law, and others did it because cheating wives and to a lesser extent cheating girlfriends were offered less sympathy than here in the USA at the time. I don’t know what it is like now as feminism takes more hold in South Korea. All too often Korean men would be stupid like American men and attack the male interloper and do nothing to the woman who cheated on him. Too many American men(I’d say a higher percentage than Korean men.) need to realize that punishing your cheating woman is better than punishing the male interloper;. yet,I’m not advocating anything illegal.

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      • on April 23, 2012 at 11:38 am Darius Jackson

        You?

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    • on April 21, 2012 at 3:20 pm corvinus

      Young Korean women were notorious for “dating” many men at the same time, telling these men that she was only dating him or one man at a time, and usually not even there best friends or closest sisters even knew.

      Yup… a lopsided sex ratio will cause women to do that.

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    • on April 22, 2012 at 12:53 pm Joe Sixpack

      doclove wrote:

      “the bright side is now every man can know what she is like by just googling her name, then decide how he wants to handle her because he could have been informed.”

      Yes.

      I have often wondered what if an organization were to spring up that positively identified by real name (not stage name) every girl or woman who appears in online porn.

      There would then be a searchable database of tens of millions of women who you could search by name, state, etc. with the search results detailing pictures and videos of them in action.

      A man seriously dating a woman could easily search her name and see her dating history and then ask himself if this is a girl I want to be involved with.

      I have wondered what effect this would have on female hypergamy. A chilling effect, wherein women are afraid to do online porn given the factual knowledge that they will be added to the searchable database?

      What if there were indeed a virtual Scarlet Letter that women had to live with, which immediately knocked their SMV value down 3-4 notches and made it very difficult to gain committment (ie money, security, true love) from a man?

      If man was designed to live in small tribal units, would the existence of such a Hypergamy Database cause a small-town mentality take over the entire nation, where everyone knows everyone’s business? Would younger women, with much higher SMV begin committing to men vs. slutting around during their 20s and part of their 30s and THEN (ridiculously) wanting a committment?

      I believe women only engage their hypergamous instincts given the belief that it is discreet and can be denied to future men. That is why they are attracted to aloof men who are in the Secret Society, can keep secrets with no drama and embrace their hypergamy.

      Much like a man is drawn to a woman who understands his desire for many women as well as sensing his need to be alone in his Man Cave. Men and women who “get” the opposite sex, without actually becoming like the opposite sex (ie metrosexuals or high-t mannish women) are incredible attractive.

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  32. on April 20, 2012 at 5:30 pm (R)Evoluzione

    The tendency to obsessively categorize data in this way, especially data that’s not necessary to categorize, is a clear indication of not only betatude, but OCD and Aspergy behavior.

    Further corroborating the Spergish assessment is the fact that he willfully sent this info to his date, without considering the fact that it could and would be taken badly.

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    • on April 20, 2012 at 5:43 pm corvinus

      The tendency to obsessively categorize data in this way, especially data that’s not necessary to categorize, is a clear indication of not only betatude, but OCD and Aspergy behavior.

      Not necessarily. Certain high-IQ people do it without being spergic. For example, Köchel, the fellow who catalogued Mozart’s works. Or the guy who founded Encyclopaedia Britannica. Or many people who work for the Census Bureau.

      Further corroborating the Spergish assessment is the fact that he willfully sent this info to his date, without considering the fact that it could and would be taken badly.

      Yeah, that was dumb. Let’s just hope he doesn’t live in a small town.

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      • on April 21, 2012 at 11:28 am SFG

        Probably these dudes were spergy back when it wasn’t so bad. In the old days you didn’t have to market yourself 24/7. If you were good at your job and moral and upstanding, who cares if you’re a little stiff?

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    • on April 21, 2012 at 8:14 pm King A (Matthew King)

      (R)Evoluzione wrote:

      The tendency to obsessively categorize data in this way, especially data that’s not necessary to categorize, is a clear indication of not only betatude, but OCD and Aspergy behavior.

      It’s called being white and male. Unchecked, it can resemble autism. Harnessed, it conquers continents.

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  33. on April 20, 2012 at 5:37 pm Libertardian

    I’ve known women who keep Excel spreadsheets of their dating prospects (especially if they’re on a dating site where they get hundreds of mails a day). So this is, of course, merely one more drop in the Sargasso Sea of feminazi hypocrisy.

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  34. on April 20, 2012 at 5:44 pm doug1111

    I’ve never used an online dating site but if I did I think having some spreadsheet data base notes about girls that have gotten back to me makes a lot of sense. I don’t think there’s anything inherantly beta about it. There is however something clueless about women and hence beta about telling any of them that you have one, much less sending it to any.

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  35. on April 20, 2012 at 5:46 pm Dude

    Note to self: Do not trust a woman — Ever.

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    • on April 21, 2012 at 3:25 pm Anonymous

      I’d consider this an aphorism, honestly.

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  36. on April 20, 2012 at 5:50 pm FFY

    I tend to think of this as a “get back in your place” moment from the sisterhood to Mr. Beta. Shit test for congruency.

    He should have come out and said “hell yeah I keep a spreadsheet, gotta keep my bitches in order”

    Kind of like when some previously unattractive dude tells a girl her friend “isn’t my type.” At first, the girl will kneejerk-like laugh and say something to test it, usually making fun of him, thinking “who is *this* guy?”.

    Stay strong and flip it and it turns into “Oooo who *is* this guy??” swoon.

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  37. on April 20, 2012 at 5:53 pm Anon

    He should assume what he’s done and never apologize.
    “I’m keeping a dating spreadsheet, so what? Bring da moviezz!”

    But it’s too late for that. Dumb ass.

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  38. on April 20, 2012 at 6:30 pm treylesnorth

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/48yearold-man-actually-very-open-to-dating-25yearo,27339/

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    • on April 21, 2012 at 7:13 am Nutz

      There’s some great lines in that article. I’m going to have to steal that next time someone gives me crap for dating women in their early & mid 20s (I’m 35).

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  39. on April 20, 2012 at 6:41 pm LostSailor

    Spreadsheet Beta guy was a moron. Not for keeping a spreadsheet, but for considering even for a second telling a woman he’s only dated a couple of times about it let alone actually sending it to her. There was only a trivial non-zero chance she wouldn’t share it widely with her friends for a few laughs.

    And now he’s potentially royally screwed, and not in the good way.

    I don’t know Spreadsheet dude, but a friend is a senior executive at the Wall Street capital management firm where dude works and I was talking about this with him over drinks last night. Dude’s been suspended with pay until this blows over. The firm is very concerned that some of his clients might bolt over his monumental demonstration of bad judgement. If clients do leave over this, he will be fired, and fat chance of getting another job in finance in NY again. If enough clients pull enough business over this, the firm may sue him to recoup the loss. It’d be like divorce-rape without the pussy.

    Never trust a woman that you don’t know very, very well. And even then, think twice…

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    • on April 21, 2012 at 3:30 pm Anonymous

      Sue him on what grounds? Frivolous lawsuits CAN cost the filers money if someone puts up a minimal fight on things- and suing him over their over-reaction to this BS (and their clients’) which is his personal life, not the company’s business, can cost them the reverse of making it back up.

      Honestly, if I were on the BoD of the firm, I’d be firing a CEO if the company authorized such a move because of the poor judgement, ON COMPANY TIME WITH COMPANY RESOURCES, exercised by the executive or any management beneath him. If I were the CEO and some Veep authorized it, I’d fire them for the same reasons.

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      • on April 24, 2012 at 11:38 am LostSailor

        I believe it’s in his employment contract, so not a frivolous suit at all. And the losses would have to be pretty big.

        They’re actually pretty sympathetic for the guy, but when this first broke, he ignored advice to a) shut up and not talk to the press and b) consult with the firm’s counsel and PR people. He did neither, which only compounded the problem.

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    • on April 22, 2012 at 6:01 pm PUA_Rochester

      Where’s he work, Ladder? I got forwarded this email, and although I knew women would completely overreact to this guy’s nerdiness, I still think the guy was an absolute idiot for entrusting his vagina ledger to one of his targets right about the double-standard though: good-looking girls, especially in the coastal cities, date multiple guys in parallel and label each one with a different handle.

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      • on April 24, 2012 at 11:40 am LostSailor

        Yes, Ladder. Normally I wouldn’t name the firm, but it was already in the Post. The girl who sent it to her friends works at another firm in the same building and is apparently facing similar trouble over her judgment in keeping personal information confidential and talking with the press.

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  40. on April 20, 2012 at 6:49 pm Landon

    What’s most upsetting to women is that he would cross compare women’s attributes. This implies an accountability on the woman’s behalf rather than bestowing accolades on her for the special snowflake that she is. Women are empowered to do this in mate selection. It’s her birthright. So for a man to exercise even a modicum of scrutiny is an insult to her Highness. He must be shamed

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    • on April 21, 2012 at 4:36 pm DelFuego

      I think this is exactly right. The arrogance of this attitude is breathtaking.

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  41. on April 20, 2012 at 6:49 pm BetaBeta

    Guy calling for date confirmation, i think he handled it pretty well, judge it your self.

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  42. on April 20, 2012 at 6:51 pm Alex

    I agree with the Feminists on this one, keeping an excel spreadsheet is tacky. I mean come on, this is 2012, shouldn’t there be an app for that?

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    • on April 23, 2012 at 3:59 am Anonymous

      There actually is a well known iPhone app for that. It’s been all over the Internet that there are apps for keeping track of multiple women’s ovulation cycles for instance.

      What’s happened here is that, almost surprisingly, the bitches at Jezebel and their sister “well-financed by the elites” blogs, were at a loss to write something this week so they latched onto a completely nothing story and turned into a hate fest against normal men that defies the simple logic that feminists have spent the past two decades “spreadsheeting” and categorizing males in diaries like that in “Sex and the City”.

      Feminists and the elites who finance those blogs don’t care about logic and their blatant hypocrisy. They know they’d offer a book deal to any woman who was brilliant enough to write a spreadsheet describing men she was dating (with extra points for being mean and condescending about them). These sorry excuses for human beings can’t imagine for a second how the backstabber has lost any hope of being respected by any worthwhile man into her future.

      And they get away with this because few men will catch them on it or keep their fangs clamped down for long when they do connect.

      Even CH will just post this one thread about it. The effect will be like that of a wolf that snapped at the mean spirited blogger bitches but didn’t hold on metaphorically.

      That’s not enough to win the news cycle because Deadspin and the white knighting New York Post will properly milk this with several follow-ups which will make their point of view gel as the consensus POV to be found on Google searches into the future, formulating the historical record of the early 21st century.

      The manosphere needs to write more posts discussing the backstabbing woman Arielle (who at 26 is way past her prime and already no longer a target for alphas). Otherwise, this will go down in the historical record as one where another bad man did something “creepy”.

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  43. on April 20, 2012 at 6:51 pm BetaBeta

    http://screen.yahoo.com/confirmation-28488596.html;_ylt=Ak1by_GV0LGSBOjr60ObmgXTZEMv;_ylu=X3oDMTJlMnBxdmhoBG1pdANVUFAgUmVsYXRlZCBWaWRlbzIgV2l0aCBWaWV3IENvdW50cwRwa2cDaWQtMjg0ODg1OTYEcG9zAzE2BHNlYwN2Y1

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  44. on April 20, 2012 at 6:51 pm Iowa Jim

    Why would women deem this guy a beta? The spreadsheet is the systematizing giveaway. Alpha males who have years of experience getting what they want from women develop a womanly sixth sense for intuitively categorizing their prey prospects. They don’t need the crutch of the spreadsheet…

    Absolutely right. An alpha would put this stuff up in a database, not a spreadsheet.

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  45. on April 20, 2012 at 6:55 pm LostSailor

    Here’s the latest from the NY Post. Romanian woman on the list (rated 9.5) defends him and rips the girl who leaked the spreadsheet. But the picture of the guy screams Beta. Hopefully it’s a yearbook picture and he’s done something to improve himself, but I’m not betting on it.

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/woman_stands_by_dater_rater_HKj5os1DytPPspZzykt9IJ

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  46. on April 20, 2012 at 7:47 pm Harland

    Creepy = fear of male sexuality. This needs to be the subject of a post, and people everywhere need to start hammering this home in comment boxes everywhere.

    [heartiste: i have said before that the underlying psychological impetus that motivates feminists is their loathing and envy of male desire.]

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    • on April 21, 2012 at 5:46 pm Anonymous

      You mean beta male desire?

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    • on April 21, 2012 at 8:35 pm King A (Matthew King)

      “Creepy” = mismanagement of male sexuality. Women don’t fear a man’s sexuality per se, or else “hypergamy” is wrong.

      Women recoil from overt sexual aggression as an automatic protective measure, particularly when it is incongruously radiating from a man of no social worth. If a man has no control over his erection, women are right to fear the sloppy incontinence of a priapic retard.

      Being unable to translate social cues or return them in proper proportion is the mark of autism and has nothing to do with the origins of feminist theory. “Creepy” is a useful word for men to understand and unpack. It is a sign you’ve gotten way ahead of yourself, chief. Women are not often wrong in their judgment of creepiness, it’s one of their better instincts.

      Matt

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      • on April 24, 2012 at 4:29 am Anonymous

        Western women are wrong most of the time in their judgement.

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    • on April 24, 2012 at 1:26 am Thor

      I disagree. Or, at least, it is more complicated than that. The women who yell “creepy” loathe and fear male desire from men who are not high enough on the sexual value ladder. If a sufficiently rich/alpha/famous/whatever guy said the same thing, then he would never be called creepy (although in some cases his approach might be rejected for some reason or another).

      Another angle (but they are heavily intertwined, to concoct a confused
      image) is when a man _knows_ he is way outclassed and acts defensively or shyly. Then he is creepy. If the same guy acted firmly and decisively (but not aggressively) he would probably not be called creepy.

      Thus
      creepy = outclassed and/or indecisive/timid/apologetic.

      Thor

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  47. on April 20, 2012 at 8:45 pm Anon

    OT

    Laughable marital advice by a misandrist geriatric whore:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2132727/Many-men-PIGS-They-want-sex-day-You-obligated-say-yes-feel-86-year-old-writes-letter-advice-granddaughter.html

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    • on April 21, 2012 at 5:56 am Mexican Pete

      Notice how the vile old hag is encouraging the daughter to pursue alpha soulmates and that “perfect connection in bed”.

      If she listens to dear old gran, she’ll be stuck on the cock carousel for years. Then wind up a cat lady.

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    • on April 26, 2012 at 12:58 pm Fred Rotten

      From the linked article:

      “…the sassy octogenarian…”

      “Most astonishing of all Carmela’s ruminations were her ***nuggets of wisdom*** about sexual preferences, positions, hygiene.”

      “Not shy to disclose more explicit ***pearls of wisdom*** she encouraged her daughter…”

      “…self-respecting matriarch…”

      “…not afraid to tell it how it is…”

      And there you have it. Now you don’t even have to read the article; I’ve provided the Cliff Notes.

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  48. on April 20, 2012 at 9:25 pm Lovekraft

    Islam’s slow creep and concurrent polygamy is the underlying concern among so-called liberated women.

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    • on April 20, 2012 at 11:33 pm Rick Derris

      I wish “liberated” women would actually stand up and call out how horrible the Islamic world treats their women. Stonings, honor killings, clitorectomies, marrying off 9 year olds because Mohammed had the hots for a 9 year old when he was in his 50s . . . those are real crimes against women, not some bogus glass ceiling. Feminists & chicks on the left are always strangely silent about Islam and they never rise up to defend their sisters who call Islam out on it.

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    • on April 21, 2012 at 10:43 am Firepower

      Maybe in
      The NPR Comics
      – that you read…

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  49. on April 20, 2012 at 9:35 pm Ross

    This isn’t even innovative.

    My 64 y/o uncle still has the journal he kept when he was in high school grading all his dates.

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  50. on April 20, 2012 at 10:09 pm Laguna Beach Fogey

    Don’t blame the Excel spreadsheet. This chap’s mistake, as others have said, was publishing it.

    I’ve known plenty of alphas who keep obsessive records of football, rugby, and baseball statistics and play ‘fantasy football league’ every year. I think they’re fucking dorks, but still… And in the asset management world, we monitor the metrics of various companies, funds, and managers to an extreme degree that would make any chick faint with boredom. And yet they desire us, and go out of their way to date us and spread for us.

    I find it hard to believe women don’t keep similar records about the men they date, noting occupation, salary, educational achievement, and penis size. They might not use Excel (they find the numbers and machines soooo confusing!), but they might write some entries in a cheap diary from OfficeMax or jot down some notes in the margins of their latest copy of Cosmo.

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    • on April 21, 2012 at 10:49 am Firepower

      Laguna Beach Fogey

      I find it hard to believe women don’t keep similar records about the men they date…

      They don’t need to. They keep a mental “record of instinct.”

      Penis size, education level – all the way on up an ascending list to culminate with: “money IN the bank.”

      It’s purely instinctive on their part; Leopards don’t need to keep notations on where the hunting is best. They just know.

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  51. on April 20, 2012 at 10:39 pm kidbourbon

    I’m confused. What is creepy about keeping a spreadsheet? For online dating, it sounds like a completely reasonable, prudent thing to do.

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    • on April 22, 2012 at 9:43 pm pliw

      it’s more unreasonable to not keep one. let’s say you send 10 messages/day, that’s 70/week. no way can you remember who you messaged, what was said, etc.

      it’s 100x worse to publish this guy’s name, pic, and work info. even if it is weird or creepy, how does that make it news? ‘online dater is creepy’–how is that surprising and who’s interested by it?

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  52. on April 20, 2012 at 11:33 pm walawala

    I keep a diary to make notes of what techniques I used and the results if any.

    If I’m working on club game and number closing, I note what worked.

    If I’m out at a party in my social circle, I make notes about what negs/cocky-funny worked. I also note how I escalated and if I didn’t why not.

    For anyone learning game, in order to get good, you need to keep practicing, but also note and track anecdotally what works and what didn’t.

    But in the case of this post, it’s been written many times, “Game” is like “Fight Club”—the first rule of Fight Club is you don’t talk about Fight Club.

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  53. on April 21, 2012 at 12:05 am Anonymous

    “Are we reaching peak feminism?”

    Want feminism to go away? Create a time machine and prevent the washing-machine from being invented. Otherwise, feminism is here to stay – indefinitely.

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  54. on April 21, 2012 at 12:55 am Anonymous

    “I’m confused. What is creepy about keeping a spreadsheet? For online dating, it sounds like a completely reasonable, prudent thing to do.”

    Women are upset because they want all the power and choice when it comes to sex. They’re afraid because they think this is proof that feminism is failing, the evil patriarchy is coming back, they’ll be forced to marry betas, etc. etc.

    In this case, though, the feminists’ fear is overblown. The guy in question was probably just organizing entries he found on an online dating site. I doubt he was having sex with most of those women, or even any of them. Feminism is stronger than ever – and barring some kind of radical technological change that favors beta men(I don’t see any on the horizon – sex robots actually help feminists by causing betas to drop out altogether) – average-income men are only going to get more and more screwed over in the decades to come.

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  55. on April 21, 2012 at 12:59 am Gil

    Excel spreadsheet?! That makes dating sounds like work.

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  56. on April 21, 2012 at 2:02 am Anonymous

    Women have their 397-point checklists, so why not? (ExHell isn’t my idea of fun, but more power to him.)

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  57. on April 21, 2012 at 5:07 am gregg

    beta should stay beta, if we want our civilization to continue. His role in the modern society is vital. He is the backbone, the working bee of civilization. Who would provide for women with children from other males, who would slave away his life for them? Who would jockey (PUAs) for little pussies? Beta men.

    All this game theory is nothing but another attempt of beta males to impress women, but as soon as the science is going into the picture, the situation is changing a bit. There is a huge risk that betas could finally grasp the nature of women and … first and foremost, the nature of themselves. Not many of them are capable of this, cos it is going contrary to their DNA, but minority finally arrives.

    Now, this is dangerous. Not alphas. They are just doing their work under the laws of evolution. They are serving feminine society. But, beta knowing about himself and about women, this is something not inetended by evolution. Beta, who managed to discipline his automatic responses of a slave to women …now this is a dangerous man, my friends. Women could smell beta from the distance – the more you are clowning, doing researches, writing countless blogs about women, the more beta you are. Women KNOW this and they are right.

    But, women count on beta behaving like beta – he should be obedient slave to women, obsessed by their pussy and company, prepared to thorw his live and earning away for wet hole. And this animal is not – here comes the confusion of women. If they can´t rely even on the durable obedience and chivarly of beta men, things are going the wrong way. They are loosing the security in the world. BAD thing for our chicks, veeery bad.

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  58. on April 21, 2012 at 8:21 am Obstinance Works

    We need a website to create and compare playa e-trading cards.

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  59. on April 21, 2012 at 8:51 am In The Frigid North

    I think you’re reaching on the alpha/beta-“secret society” side of things. The whining is by the sexual loser contingent, and directed to the fact that he dares to value things they don’t possess.

    Look at what the harpy contingent is shrieking about: use of strict, numerical ranges on the categories of age and attractiveness, and those two categories being the primary metrics in the document.

    It’s not about the average girl who lets feminists roll in search of financial reward and some alpha cock along the way, it’s the buttertrolls and career women, angry that they don’t have what men want, trying to use shame to enforce their desire that a man-jaw and a JD, instead of youth and beauty, be the currency of the sexual marketplace.

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  60. on April 21, 2012 at 9:12 am SilverFox

    As I have commented before, match.com is a goldmine

    I have fucked 16 women from 22-32, 6.0-9.0 on match in last 24 months

    My hit rate is <5% for wink response, and <20% close to date & fuck

    I send out 50 winks, 75 cut/paste emails per day, 2 dates Per week

    This year alone i have fucked 6 women, incl. a 23, 8.5 who even moved in for 10 days…

    I'm 43, 5'10" 175lb; before match I banged 20 women in 20 yrs!!!

    Every guy should be on match, it's crazy not to

    Note: it's totally random, I have had gals laugh and put there panties back on and leave when I fumble and I have had my cock in mouths in 45min & anal on 2nd date

    Key is keep dates with 2 blocks of home and spend <$25 (2drinks) then high tail back to your pad for "nite cap", review of artwork, Music, anything….that separates the ho's from cockteasers.

    Just be prepared to drop $2500 on 100 dates in 12mos and your dick seeing 25 pussies from the inside.

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  61. on April 21, 2012 at 10:59 am Serious Reader

    What a lame XLS. Someone needs to post their blank XLS template. I know we’ve got dozens that are much more in-depth….

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  62. on April 21, 2012 at 11:01 am DontBanMe

    This guy got SHAFTED.

    Admit it. Anyone with IQ > 110 uses one.

    Post up the Excel file you use.

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  63. on April 21, 2012 at 12:30 pm ihos501

    if a man can multitask better than most females, that makes him beta?

    [heartiste: it makes him one step closer to casanova.]

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  64. on April 21, 2012 at 1:31 pm anon

    mimosas are fucking disgusting. What a waste of champagne/sparkling white. I bet a lot of them drink them with sparkling moscatos too. Cretins.

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  65. on April 21, 2012 at 3:10 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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  66. on April 21, 2012 at 3:12 pm Gramps

    Just think of all this faux outrage as an alternative to drugs.

    Really, it’s an alternative to any activity which might require more effort, like reading a book.

    It’s a sorry sign of our times that anybody has any need to comment on or to worry about such trivia.

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  67. on April 21, 2012 at 4:18 pm my_beanus (@mybeanus)

    someone post the actual spreadsheet file

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  68. on April 21, 2012 at 10:18 pm Doc

    Wrote an application long ago which would basically do the same thing, I had various categories and would rate each woman. Through the use of a browser and a VPN I could access it anywhere, had all of the specifics as to her contact information, likes, her family members, all of the sh*t women spout and expect you to remember. So before I would go see one, I would look her up to find out the things she had told me about her likes, dislikes, job, things that were bothering her, etc.

    While I could say that I did this to show her a better time, the fact was that it paid off by getting to what I wanted faster – the bedroom. Women are flattered that you can remember them – I couldn’t remember all of the useless trivia so I have a cheat. Heck, I still use it, more modern then it was back then, more security, but now with my smartphone before I’ll pick her up, I’ll refresh my memory about the things we talked about. I still message myself with info to add later, and when I’m in the bathroom, or she is, I’m looking up things about her.

    I even have reminders that ping me on who to call when. Women remember all of the things that men don’t. Fortunately, technology evens the playing field. (I have reminders on who NOT to call when – to avoid PMS and other hassles.) So she’ll get a call to see how the surgery went, or how her grandfather who wasn’t doing well, is these days. Why do I do this? For the same reason men have been doing things for thousands of years – to get into a new woman. Of course, that opens more things to keep track of.

    I screwed up when I was younger, getting things one woman told me confused with another. This type of system stops that. The women are happier, and I get what I want. Who is hurt? If women don’t like it – tough. They are the ones that make it worth a man’s while to do this sort of thing. As long as there is a reward for it, I’ll keep doing it. It is as simple as that.

    Men are simple creatures – you reward us for a specific behavior, and we’ll do it more. The more women who reward us, the more we’ll use it… If the women want someone to blame, they should look in the mirror. Of course THAT will NEVER happen…

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  69. on April 22, 2012 at 5:41 am xsplat

    My girl found my old dating diary on a thumb drive. It’s complete with pictures, comments about the girls, such as if I fucked them or not, and some itinerary. Most of it was about when the time within a few months after meeting her. I guess it showed about six girls I’d fucked, and a few more I had planned to see.

    She was shocked, but never mentioned it again. I told her to keep her nose out of my stuff, as she was only causing trouble. The incident caused a day of high emotion grief, but must have given her a better appreciation of my market value.

    I mean, she knew of one other girl I was seeing at the time, as I lived with her, but she didn’t know how easy it is for me to date here.

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  70. on April 22, 2012 at 6:23 am Anonymous

    Breaking news about another so-called “creeper”: A 7 (on a good day) is being hailed as a heroine in Boston today because she single-handedly collared a flasher and wants to condemn all the men who watched for not doing the “lets you and him fight” routine

    http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1061125965

    The flasher backed off and apologized after not harming her but she screamed for other men to risk having his sperm covered wet hands on their face in a fight simply because she wanted justice.

    Commenters stupidly stated the other men were cowards for not wanting to fight an unarmed man. They don’t get it that another man’s sperm is like kryptonite. It’s worse than a weapon.

    Note all the commenters implying it would be the “conservative” thing to do to become Mr. Chivalry and let the flasher belong to the state the rest of his life (offender registry). Aspergy “conservative” commenters on the Internet are 100% sure that anyone who doesn’t agree with what they think the “conservative” position obviously is, is just a “bleeding heart liberal”.

    This isn’t to say I wouldn’t have helped her if she were a 8.5+ and I needed a good opener. 😉

    Another interesting angle the “journalist” didn’t cover was how did this 24 year old woman manage to single-handedly hold a 37 year old man on a train platform until the police arrived. It sounds like the gamma valued the physical contact so much he was willing to have his life ruined for the extra 60 seconds of “hand holding”.

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    • on April 23, 2012 at 1:32 pm itsme

      ugh. that nasal septum piercing drops her a few points.

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  71. on April 22, 2012 at 7:05 am Anonymous

    If the New York Post was really “conservative” like it says it is, then the front page would have had the photo of the backstabber Arielle instead of the young banker and the headline “Backstabber” on it.

    As it is, the New York Post is for White Knighters who think they’re Republican and the New York Daily News is for Manginas who think they’re Democrat.

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  72. on April 22, 2012 at 11:47 am Joe Sixpack

    A girl who’s a Facebook friend posted that same Excel Spreadsheet Guy story.

    Her comments:

    Creepy. Can’t imagine why the girl didn’t go out w/him again. http://deadspin.com/5902760/finance-guy-keeps-incredibly-detailed-incredibly-creepy-spreadsheet-of-his-matchcom-prospects

    Two of her female friends commented:

    -“this is absolutely crazy. what a psycho”

    -“Cray. Cray.”

    And a guy commented, obviously the voice of reason as men are.

    -“He’s just trying to be organized, but yeah there’s nothing good that can come of sharing that spreadsheet with any woman that didn’t give birth to you.”

    I wonder how many of these girls are dating multiple men, and cannot stand that a beta male has begun slowly and methodically spinning the chambers on the combination to the Secret Society, listening ever so carefully for the telltale click that opens the lock?

    The ironic part is the girl who posted the story herself has a massive 500-point bulletpoint checklist, as confirmed to me by one of her best friends.

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    • on April 24, 2012 at 4:24 am Anonymous

      If she’s hot and wouldn’t meet with you, she shouldn’t be in your friend list. Your motives for keeping her on may vary, if she’d recommend you to a friend keep her on, but I’d generally unfriend such

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  73. on April 22, 2012 at 1:04 pm Yahoo

    Of all the recent cases where someone emails potentially embarrassing info to a friend, and that friend turns that private correspondence into a public shaming, how often is the shamer a woman vs. man. I can’t think of any men who have done this. Only women, and they do it to each other as readily as they do it to a man.

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    • on April 24, 2012 at 4:21 am Anonymous

      I think we all face the danger of a woman doing that to us retroactively if we allow the trend to continue unshamed.

      I, for instance, could never run for President because of emails sent to women when I was beta.

      But it’s in the interest of men (and thus the MRM) to reverse shame the backstabbing women who bring private emails public. This was once considered totally wrong by the Internet community and even mortal enemies were under tacit agreement never to make private emails public.

      Now the Daily Mail in the UK, with its female journalists, have joined in to the public shaming of an innocent man (spreadsheet guy) while saying nothing about how shameful the 26 year old 6 was who tricked him and betrayed him.

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    • on April 24, 2012 at 7:18 pm Glengarry

      Not to mention that the stab in the back is really for no good reason. It has to be the best feeling in the world, what else would explain it.

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  74. on April 22, 2012 at 1:29 pm danielantinora

    http://spiritwaterblood.com/2012/04/angels-wear-white-hoodies/

    What about Trrrrraaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyvonhnnnnz!!!

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  75. on April 22, 2012 at 1:51 pm defcon

    For those seasoned participants in this blog, I wonder if the sheer numbers of, and ease with which you find new, female interests necessarily means that you no longer ever really fall for any particular one. My experience with women is pretty limited for my age, but I do find my belief in finding one that really gets my fire going waning the older I get and the more women I get with.

    Despite the forces that cry against the existence of a sustainable partnership with one woman, I do find a slight deep kernel of hope for the same burns within me. Do any of you seasoned types still hold out for such a possibilty (an LTR, not marriage) or have women become completely interchangeable in your mind? Do you still come across one that really engages the depth of your being?

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    • on April 24, 2012 at 4:16 am Anonymous

      In my MLTR is a woman I love, who spends the night 3 times per week, sometimes 4. I can keep a date with one of the others between getting off work and when I tell the woman I love when I got off work (4 hour difference). You can get a lot done in 4 hours.

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  76. on April 22, 2012 at 3:21 pm Anonymous

    French elections: Why is the media saying that the socialist Hollande will “romp home” on May 6 when he only got 28% of the vote and the far left party only got 10% of the vote? Sarkozy got 26% but the far right Le Pen got 20% which means that conservatives (if you can call Sarkozy conservative) won the first round 46% to 38%.

    What’s wrong with my math?

    Republican Peter King is turning me off, and possibly a lot of male voters, with his tenacity about some Secret Service members having a little sex more than a week before the President arrived in Colombia. He’s grandstanding now. And Drudge, who is gay, is also milking this too much (Is Drudge an asset or liability to the PUA and MRA scene?).

    I can see the need for professionalism in that agency, but I’m still turned off by the perception that Republican politicians feel they need to be overly concerned with our sex lives when conservatism doesn’t have to get that kind of reputation (small government advocates could easily nurture the opposite reputation).

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    • on April 23, 2012 at 1:25 pm Anon

      I’m canadian-american but I’m in France right now. Can’t wait to get the fuck out, hopefully before summer.
      BTW, french chicks are cute, thin (for the vast majority) and quite lovely. However, they’re slutty as fuck like all (western?) women, and are becoming increasingly trapped in the feminazi matrix. I’m personally not interested in LTRs, but I’d still take a french gf over an american one anytime. Of course I’d keep one eye always open and they need to be gamed, hard.

      Anyway, the french far right is nationalist but also socialist. They have very warped leftist economic views, while still being strong opponents of multicultu and immigration.
      Equalism bullshit is deeply rooted in France. And resentment against the rich and wealthy is a mind-boggling feature across the whole political spectrum. Many people on this blog with a strong right-wing philosophy would completely lose their minds in here. Primarily because France doesn’t have a strong right-wing philosophy.

      Anyway, Sarkozy (who by the way, is a former cuckold now married to a notorious slut, saying this because even the french right has lost sight of gender roles and traditional family values) will probably not win because the far right votes were also motivated by leftist economic views. The socialist challenger is in a better position to clean up.
      But still, he’s a political beast and the french vote is typically irrational, he still has a slim chance to make a comeback.

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      • on April 24, 2012 at 2:03 pm chi-town

        The reason they have a healthy dislike for the wealthy is that they are well aware of feudalism. Soon as the resources start becoming more scarce(land), those who build better mouse traps don’t get the money anymore. It goes to the natty marquis de payrent

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      • on April 24, 2012 at 5:33 pm Anon

        I’m allergic to lefty economics and marxist class struggle obsession, so I’m tempted to call you out on being a lefty just because you used “healthy dislike”. Feudalism is partly in our genes. Alpha, beta and all that stuff. Complaining about it is like complaining that the hoops are too high.
        Not that I condone feudalism, but disliking people that you envy is the mark of slave morality, and socialist resentment.

        And when you read the french commentariat. It’s not a healthy dislike, it’s authentic nietzschean resentment. There are many psychotic commies in here.

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  77. on April 22, 2012 at 3:29 pm Samuel

    w3rd

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  78. on April 22, 2012 at 3:55 pm Cauthon

    Wow, couple of things.

    1) Never trust a woman with a secret. She will share it with her friends/mom. Women feel an insatiable need to seek a second opinion on their prospective mates, and they will share everything. Your habits, past relationships, personality traits, fights, and yes, secrets you hold dear.

    2) This guy listed Rose Bar on the spreadsheet a few times. It’s a very posh place in NYC, so this guy is probably rolling in dough but is a beta at heart (“figdety”).

    3) The one thing women fear is guys who are able to play the game better than they do. It is simultaneously disempowering and attractive (redundancy?). For a beta-ish guy to have the audacity (!) to systematically objectify dozens of women sets off alarm bells. So they instantly label him a creep, the watchword for any guy who doesn’t turn girls on but still tries to get laid. The guy responded with humility and good humor rather than bitterness. Kudos to him.

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    • on April 24, 2012 at 4:12 am Anonymous

      What makes him most beta is that he’s dating women his own age. None of these women are higher than a 6.

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  79. on April 22, 2012 at 6:36 pm DarkByke

    This is what happens to nerds.

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  80. on April 22, 2012 at 10:04 pm Joe Schmoe

    “Women are very good at assigning cutesy little nicks to men they date — “the doctor”, “bad breath guy”, “shiny shoes guy”, “the comedian”, etc ”

    Nautral alphas do this shit all the time too.

    http://www.broslikethissite.com/2009/06/28-giving-girls-nicknames.html

    [heartiste: exactly. which reinforces a point i frequently make here that alpha males and women have a lot in common. this is not a knock. to be good with women, you must think like one.]

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    • on April 24, 2012 at 1:22 pm Flom-flom-flooie

      Re: think like one — “As Good As It Gets” (1997):

      Receptionist: How do you write women so well?
      Melvin Udall: I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability.

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  81. on April 22, 2012 at 10:25 pm Anonymous

    Off topic, but a good example of 5 minutes with alpha vs beta.

    http://www.mercurynews.com/bay-area-news/ci_20453631/exclusive-interview-nadia-lockyer-tells-traumatic-story-how?source=rss

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  82. on April 23, 2012 at 12:13 am Spiralina

    I would LOVE to see Excel guy and Karen Owens set up on a blind date.

    Actually, I just want to see their respective write-ups of the experience.

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  83. on April 23, 2012 at 1:22 am gritartisan

    Heartiste:

    Do you think George Zimmerman is getting the typical love mail from adoring fans that murderers get? A la chick-dig-jerks-prison-tryst-edition?

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  84. on April 23, 2012 at 3:53 am T

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  85. on April 23, 2012 at 4:04 am Ben

    @Heartiste:

    When woman preselection is threatened by slut outing:

    http://liveweb.archive.org/http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/hunter-the-horrible-shuts-down-revenge-porn-website-20120423-1xgb3.html

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  86. on April 23, 2012 at 6:57 am Penny

    My son describes girls in very sexist ways and compares them, for breast size and so on. I hear him with his friends. He has big nudes on his walls too. I wouldn’t mind something more tasteful.

    Any suggestions?

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    • on April 23, 2012 at 1:26 pm Firepower

      Cougar it up
      and fuck
      his pals

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    • on April 23, 2012 at 1:36 pm itsme

      tell him he can fit more nudes if they were smaller.

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    • on April 23, 2012 at 3:57 pm Tooters

      Get him rubbers and astroglide for his birthday.

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    • on April 24, 2012 at 3:57 am Anonymous

      Seriously Penny, make sure you tell him that he needs to actually get live women in your house for dinner at least. I had such photos on my wall. I was still a beta for much of my life after that. My mom just looked at the posters one day and walked away silently. She should have and you need to tell him very clearly that these thoughts need to turn to action. Belittle him for having a photo and not the real thing. He will thank you later, believe me. He will.

      Teach him game.

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    • on April 24, 2012 at 7:21 pm Glengarry

      On his birthday, tear down the pics and leave a ticket to the local brothel on his bed.

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  87. on April 23, 2012 at 11:32 am Shawn

    Wordsum: http://racehist.blogspot.com/2010/04/general-social-survey-vocabulary-test.html

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  88. on April 23, 2012 at 1:32 pm O-face

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2132338/Liliana-Beidaut-Make-artist-David-Merkurs-dating-spreadsheet-just-wasnt-interested.html

    this just in

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  89. on April 23, 2012 at 2:08 pm (R)Evoluzione

    Re: Heartiste’s tweeted pushup goals.

    It’s tough, plateaus suck. Sometimes a new stimulus is needed.

    I’ve had success mixing conventional, dead-hang pullups with weighted pullups and kipping pullups.

    My general formula would be to the three-exercise superset as follows: weighted pullups to failure with a weight vest, or weights strapped to a weightlifing belt, or in a pinch, with a kettlebell hooked by a foot, starting with 35 pounds, going up to 45 in a week. Then do dead-hang standard pullups to failure, then knock out as many kipping pullups as I could. Following this, I got up to 20-22 dead-hang pullups when fully rested. My lats became like big beefy flank steaks.

    Work up to 3 sets of this routine, 2-3x a week. Sadly, this skill goes away if you don’t keep cranking on it every week. Maybe at some point, a new set point develops, but I know if I slack off for a few weeks, I’m back to sub-20 reps. About 14-15 seems to be default if I only do them sporadically.

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  90. on April 23, 2012 at 2:21 pm Anonymous

    “The mask is slipping off white elite hate for rural whites. This is the true battle line in America”

    No. Rural whites have no money and there are hardly any of them left. They’re not serious enough to engage in battle.

    The “battle line” is between white men of average income vs. rich white + minorities + feminists.

    [heartiste: rural is being used as a catch-all phrase to include large swaths of the white working class, because the eltie mostly see the working class and lower middle class as having the trappings of the rural outposts.]

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  91. on April 23, 2012 at 3:19 pm askjoe

    Good Lord, way to make sports boring, bitches. I click on it for pics of Sterger’s boobs and instead it’s some sort of femmy gabfest.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/23/jennifer-sterger-stereotypes-out-of-bounds_n_1444611.html?&ncid=webmail7

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  92. on April 23, 2012 at 3:20 pm askjoe

    not for nothing, but there’s a seen in The Sweetest Thing where one girl accuses the other of “naming the puppy,” where the main guy gets referred to by his real name and not by his nickname. An early glimpse into the hypergamous mind…

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  93. on April 23, 2012 at 8:28 pm Roy Rhinestone

    Lego’s, feminists, and RamZpaul. Need I say more?

    http://www.ramzpaul.com/2012/04/feminists-claim-legos-are-sexist.html

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  94. on April 24, 2012 at 5:44 am a girl

    nothing makes one feel more like a number than sittinging as a row title in an excel spreadsheet.

    every now and then, i see points in having children.

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  95. on April 24, 2012 at 7:23 pm Glengarry

    So I guess using the company CRM is right out then? What about getting flushed pink powerpoint reports of the, uh, “funnel”?

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  96. on April 28, 2012 at 7:03 am gunslingergregi

    well men over time just had to know what they want and took that shit

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