Overcoming Bias has a post up about hypocritical flattery. RH might feel a little embarrassed getting a link from this universally beloved and highly influential blog, but his post is very interesting for what it implies about successful methods of flirting that men can use to pick up women. (See what I did there?)
Humans usually have a social norm against flattery. Yes we flatter each other, and often, but we usually flatter indirectly. So just how big of a fig leaf does it take to hide flattery? Consider item #1 from a post on “the seven techniques for ingratiation and influence that are most effective in moving up the corporate ladder without looking like a kiss-ass”:
Frame flattery as likely to make the boss uncomfortable. …one manager whom we interviewed noted that he commonly prefaces flattering remarks with such phrases as “I don’t want to embarrass you but. . . ,” or “I know you won’t want me to say this but. . . ,” or “You’re going to hate me for saying this but.” (more)
Note that this approach makes the praise seem no less glowing, and it offers little reason for observers to less suspect the praise was designed to gain favor. So how could flattery without this addition be unacceptable, yet flattery without this addition be acceptable?
This example suggests that the key social norm is that you should not encourage others to flatter you. While there is a weak norm against praising others to gain their favor, the stronger norm is against your explicitly rewarding others for praising you. So by directly claiming that someone is not encouraging you to praise them, you declare them innocent of violating the key social norm against encouraging flattery from others.
The key to effectively flattering your boss (or any higher status person who could be useful to you) is to clear him of suspicions that he may be encouraging the flattery. Similarly, the key to effectively flirting with a girl is to clear her of suspicions that she may be encouraging your come-on.
Girls know better, of course, that when they pretty up their faces and flaunt their bodies they are encouraging come-ons from men, and hopefully the right kinds of men. But that doesn’t mean they want to be reminded of that grimy little fact about their natures.
Girls are very sensitive to being thought easy or slutty (and with good psychosexual reason). Cloying flirtations that are tacitly sexual run the risk of triggering a girl’s anti-slut defense. There is also the quirk of the female hindbrain that she values, admires and, yes, feels more physical attraction for the man who does not make himself too readily available. Chicks dig chasing aloof alphas. A man’s conspicuously flirtatious proposition is more likely to lower his value than raise it.
Thus, the best flirting is a type of anti-flirting; flirting without directly signaling that you are flirting. Or without signaling that sex is on your mind.
A few examples:
“I don’t want you to get the wrong idea, but you look like someone who’d be cool to talk to.”
“I don’t consider myself in the market, but if I was, I’d say you’re kind of cute.”
“Why is it every time I just want to say something nice to a girl, like that your eyes are… unique, she thinks I want to have sex with her?”
“I hope you don’t think this is a come-on, but you have a certain grace about you.”
“Don’t be too embarrassed that I’m flirting with you right now. They’re just words.”
The idea behind these examples is that you disarm a woman’s inclination to pigeonhole you as a man angling for her sex. Once the outer labia force field is disarmed, a woman’s inner labia defenses are easily pried, and it’s a small matter to later “change your mind” about her.
Personally, I’m not a big fan of flattery flirting. There are better ways to flirt that don’t require the egregious use of compliments or greasy innuendo. But if you do like to go direct with your flirting, then framing your flattery like the examples above will improve the reactions you get from women. Especially very beautiful women who are used to “suffering” direct and insinuated solicitations from men.

How would you have advised the unlucky Beta who in the Dublin Hotel lift at 3am said to Internet Atheist Narcissist Skepchick ‘Don’t take this the wrong way, but I’d love to discuss these matters with you further’ – and then for his troubles had his doubtless serious approach rubbished all over the Internet by her ultimately getting P.Z. Myers and Richard Dawkins falling out over her and whether the Lift Guy had been creepy.
I’d say, ‘stay out of lifts with women’ – they can’t handle proximity to strangers
[heartiste: as i said in that post, his biggest mistake was making a direct come-on to a girl in a place where she had not feasible avenue of escape. in other words, he helped construct her bitch shield.]
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[heartiste: as i said in that post, his biggest mistake was making a direct come-on to a girl in a place where she had not feasible avenue of escape. in other words, he helped construct her bitch shield.]
I have been getting great results by keeping this in mind. Give her a wide-open path to run away from you, and she won’t!
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“There is also the quirk of the female hindbrain that… feels more physical attraction for the man who does not make himself too readily available. Chicks dig chasing aloof alphas. A man’s conspicuously flirtatious proposition is more likely to lower his value than raise it.”
Don’t forget that the flirters with the best effect on chicks are the naturals who flirt with EVERYONE.
The natural who flirts with everyone and anyone (whether young, old, fat, ugly, hot, male, female) actually comes off MORE ALOOF and ‘gina tingling than the introvert who flirts once in a while with a hot girl.
That’s because girls know that the natural’s flattery is flippant bullshit & MEANINGLESS, while the introvert’s flattery is done in all earnestness. And girls love flippant, dishonest rogues because girls prefer men who reflect the core of all girls.
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Why is wanting to be attractive to men a “grimy little fact” about our nature? You sound like a feminist.
[heartiste: when was the last time you were a man who asked a girl why she wears makeup? she’s not going to answer “because i want to be hotter to men and attract their attention.” well, unless she’s a nerd, like the sort of women who hang out on the net reading high level blogs marketed to men.]
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Because you act like bitches when some guy who doesn’t give you instant gina tingles notices.
Enjoy your sociopaths.
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FIRSTFIRSTIFIRSTIFIRSITS!!!!!!
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Don’t be such a little bitch. Stop training yourself not to show intent.
Text sent to a girl I met at a club:
Me: How did it feel waking up this morning knowing you still wanted me
Her: Are you sure I still wanted you?
Me: Yes
Her: Ya, you’re right. My body was mad at me for not going home with you.
It’s better to default to showing bold intent than to try and “game,” because game that hides intent due to fear of rejection will cause you to lose. Game that shows you’re in demand (i.e. canceling on dates purely to game) wins, as your intent doesn’t stem from scarcity.
7 times out of 10, don’t mask intent.
When you understand this, you understand how to be persistent without coming off as desperate. When you’re persistent, like a man should be, your lay count will shoot up.
(Different girl)
Me: Sunday, dinner, you + me
Her: Oh goodness this again
Me (4 days later): Are you free this Friday? I know a pushy guy who wants to see you
Her: Wanna grab lunch?
[heartiste: judging by your irrelevant harangue, it sounds like you didn’t grasp the context of this post at all. get back to us after you’ve reread it for comprehension.]
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Also see Heartiste’s post on “female/male game”. It both works.
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I regularly do “direct approaches” as you’ve prescribed as the end-all-be-all of pickup. Really, there’s no one optimal strategy for picking up girls. Your text exchanges aren’t really proof of a direct approach being the optimal strategy for every 21st century aspiring womanizer. If you’ve actually fucked those girls, and I’m pretty sure you haven’t (otherwise you’d have said so), then maybe you’d have some hard evidence.
But what Heartiste has said confirms what I’ve seen on nights out. Girls go out with friends, usually, unless you’ve managed to isolate her or she got ditched. She’s not going to allow her friends to perceive her as easy or slutty and, a lot of the time, her friends won’t let her get swept up off her feet if they’re aware she has a penchant for loose chastity.
As somebody else alluded to above, if you give them an escape, it not only shows that you have options but makes them feel comfortable with you.
A big problem with a lot of Game “field reports” is that a lot of these SNL’s are framed within the context where the girl was an almost unnatural level of slut. Dudes will never admit that online, let alone themselves, because it detracts from the glory of their accomplishment.
So, yeah, “manning up” and telling a girl her cleavage is giving you boner is a limited approach, in my opinion. You can do whatever you want to do, though. I probably won’t convince you.
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And for #2, it’s not friday yet is it? 🙂
You all have your panties in a bunch cause I called someone a BITCH
[heartiste: no one gives a shit that you used the word bitch. what are you, 9 years old? proud of cursing for your first time?]
but really “showing intent” is one of those commonly accepted PUA things alongside congruence, cocky funny, etc. It is really a language/lingo thing if it’s not resonating. I’m giving Heartiste a hard time because he likes this awkward James Bond wannabe character he made up who tries to be sooo slyy about being too cool for you but you can get with me maybe possibly hmm hmm hmmmmm????
[wonderful hyperbole. now go to the fast seduction forums and read about disqualification. educate yourself before mouthing off. you sound like a numbskull.]
Really though, it’s the mental state guys fall into where they say STUPID SHIT to girls because their brains are lighting up trying to come up with shit to make girls like them.
-SNLs are for sluts only
-Girls only like alphas
-Girls are dumb and hypergamous so women fucking suck
THESE ARE ALL EXCUSES the manosphere came up with to explain away why they can’t say to a single girl “Take my fucking hand.”
[as i said, you totally missed the context of the post, and are now firmly in self-jacking rant territory. direct game where you make your sexual intentions CLEARLY and UNEQUIVOCALLY known is fine on girls you either have fucked already or have built solid rapport with and have gotten more than a few IOIs. otherwise, it’s just a variation of the apocalypse opener. which has its uses, but be honest, it’s not a high percentage game tactic. this post is about flirting with girls you are JUST MEETING for the first time, not about girls you have a history of texting/dating/fucking already who are open to caveman sex come-ons. also, do note at the bottom of the post my recommendation to skip this type of flirting as there are better options. i hardly ever give girls flattering compliments as openers, but if you are going to do that, it’s best to frame it in the ways outlined in this post, by disqualifying yourself at the outset so her bitch shields are lowered, and then reversing course once you have ensnared her into a convo. another alternative is movie moment direct game, but most puas are pretty much negative on that type of lance mason game, and with good reason: low odds.
the rest of your comment is deleted because it reeks of troll and hater strangeness, a toxic combo.]
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@ CH
“the rest of your comment is deleted because it reeks of troll and hater strangeness, a toxic combo.”
I see exactly what you’re saying. In fact, there’s *something* (I can’t quite put my finger on it) about The Shocker’s communication style/tone that suggests we’re dealing with a chick here. And I say this despite the text-message-screenshot provided.
Maybe a particularly aggressive lezbo?
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Babes LOVE drama.
Why else soaps?
Excessive ernestness causes bonding-drama to rush-the-close: Babes want the tempo to provide MANY decision points that she can mull over — on the way to the bed, even altar.
Flirting is a form of rapid fire pull-push: the line is run out, jerked, then run some more, etc.
She’s permitted the decision to pull in to your orbit.
Indeed, a healthy bonding is one in which the male is the Center of Attention — with her orbiting around him.
ANY male attempt at orbiting her ( elevating her ) triggers LGBF status.
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It’s tragic that modern poetic license posits sex bonding as if it were covalent/ like a diatomic molecule/ whereby the two have equal chemistry.
It’s entirely the opposite: XX and XY are ionically bonded ( even ironically bonded ) whereby they have entirely opposite needs. Literally poles apart.
In chemistry, an ionic bond means that an electron, or two, migrates over into the electron cloud surrounding one atom. ( Think table salt: NaCl )
In love chemistry, the babe wants to migrate into his world, his emotional anchorage, for life is a storm of emotional threats.
That’s why iconic Western heroes waltz through life or death dramas like John Wayne, Steve McQueen, Clint Eastwood and Bruce Willis: everyone stolid in the face of risk, on steroids.
This immunity to pressure makes them sexy beyond belief to every woman.
For them, flirting takes the form of paying any attention to a woman at all.
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And when sodium doesn’t pair with chlorine it ignites when exposed to moisture in the air
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hehe, you said “moisture.”
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“high level blogs”
spergin’
[heartiste: my bad. *highest* level blogs.]
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And as a second thought: shit-testing is pressure-testing.
The more stolid your come-back, the more impressive your posture.
That’s why IHAB is best glanced-off with “&” text-back.
Terse beats gabby every time.
The Spartan women found this tic so sexy it gained a name: laconic.
( From Laconia:)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laconic_phrase
The ultimate laconic phrase: Veni, vidi, vici.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veni,_vidi,_vici
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All of the above is why babes NEVER want to hear your life story, nor any of your frustrations.
It’s also why so many women ultimately want their mates to leave the house: he’s sexier as an economic and emotional magician. She never wants to know how he’s pulling the rabbit out of the hat. Such a dynamic takes her back to girl-and-daddy daze. Safe. Simple. When she was loved just for breathing.
( And before she had to worry about holding her weight down!)
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I admit that I myself am probably a nerd, but most of my friends aren’t and as far as I know don’t read this blog or any of the manosphere. And yes, if one of us were asked point blank by a stranger why we were wearing such-and-such outfit or makeup, we wouldn’t say, “because i want to be hotter to men and attract their attention.” But when we get ready for a night out together there’s never really any question of why we’re expending so much effort. Often we’d say something like, “I want to look hot so I can meet some cute boys tonight!” And we definitely don’t put in the same kind of time for girls’ movie night.
Maybe it’s a cultural thing though. The la in my name, is, after all, “los angeles” which I imagine is a lot different than D.C. Women (and men!) here seem to understand and accept the fact that their appearance matters and work hard to maintain it, which I suppose is why LA has a reputation for being “shallow,” although I prefer to think of it as a heightened acceptance of reality.
[heartiste: i don’t live in either of those places, but i’ve yet to meet a girl who was comfortable discussing the real reasons why she does the mating market things she does. thus, my literarily apt description of the “grimy little facts” of women’s true natures. made grimy by women’s inability to grasp them fully and embrace them whole-heartedly.]
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I’m an LA resident too. Flirting is everywhere: the entertainment industry demands it, which spreads out to the rest of us who aren’t in its maw. I flirt constantly for no reason at all.
However, the Hollywood club scene is just waaaaay too vicious and hyperdriven for all but the very most alpha to compete. The polite lies that exist in other dating markets don’t really exist here; all of this site’s precepts are on open display. Your game has to be unbelievably tight. Girls here can sniff out masculine self-doubt in half a second, and there’s a whole row of snarky, oily producer wannabes just down the bar, waiting.
(They’re all liberals too. How did you know that nobody showers out here, Heartiste?)
I have had beta friends come to visit who want to “hit the clubs”, and I gotta tell them to sit down, take a deep breath, think carefully about what they’re asking to do. This ain’t McFattyson’s Bar and Grill in suburban Omaha.
In fact, I know a girl who literally moved out of LA because she felt her pelvis was too wide to compete.
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Well looks like my next comment got “lost in moderation” but my point was that it shouldn’t be considered a “grimy” part of anyone’s nature to want to be attractive to the opposite sex (or same sex, if that’s how you roll). Should I consider it “grimy” that men want to learn game (or do anything) to be more attractive to women?
And although I agree that most women aren’t comfortable discussing many of the real reasons they do the things they do in the mating market (such as sleep with assholes), I feel like physical appearance is straightforward enough that none of us are really in denial about why we wear makeup and sexy clothes. But again, perhaps that’s only LA, and Jason’s point about the polite lies not existing here was what I was trying to get at. It’s one of the reasons I love this city, although I’m not sure if I’d feel the same was if I was ugly or had a “wide pelvis”- lol!
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Should I consider it “grimy” that men want to learn game (or do anything) to be more attractive to women?
there’s a substantial number of women who consider men learning game to be sleazy/creepy. in their minds, learning game isn’t ‘being more attractive to women’, it’s ‘manipulating women’.
but, for the most part, these women are ugly.
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Their discomfort should be taken as proof of how effective it is, and how much of female attraction is based on confidence and verbal queues; nothing more, nothing less.
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I’ve never been to LA, but my guess is the men are more picky than they should be.
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@ Jason
“In fact, I know a girl who literally moved out of LA because she felt her pelvis was too wide to compete.”
That’s too bad, because narrow pelvi on women are gross. For years, I swooned over Naomi Watts. It’s like, she was the golden epitome of what I considered “my type.” Then not too long ago I was watching some movie she was in (I think it was “Mulholland Drive”), and for the first time I’d noticed how narrow (like, *really* narrow) her hips were. And sadly I lost all attraction towards her. That absolutely beautiful face (in my opinion) simply couldn’t make up for that narrow, boyish pelvis.
Since you live in LA, do you find in your observations that narrow hipped women are generally considered more “LA beautiful” than their wider-hipped sisters?
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I don’t know that narrow-hipped women are more “LA beautiful” … but there are certainly more of them here.
Why? Probly because they look better in photographs. Easier to dress them up. And they do stuff like gymnastics and other physical stage performances more easily. All of which are skills needed in the various tentacles of the entertainment industry.
I do have another idea, though, that the LA genepool is growing more attractive with every passing generation. If you use 1925 as a base year for the birth of the film industry, we’re already on the fourth generation of aspiring actresses, singers, and models emigrating here, finding a modest amount of work, quitting the industry by age 30, then settling for a husband and making babies.
In other words, LA has been skimming the top 1% of attractive people off the national stock for almost a hundred years. Most have stayed on after their careers died, and reproduced instead.
(Plus the Persians who immigrated here thirty years ago after the fall of the Shah are remarkably beautiful and have contributed to the genetic stock too.)
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Ive just started reading this blog, these posts are great. Wish I had read this earlier. Especially when I saw one the other day on girls flaking on you. It happened to me and would like to hear some opinions on this:
Some background: Im a 19yo student at Uni in the UK and a few weeks ago I met this hot girl in a club, 4 years older than me, also a student. We had sex in the girls toilets and since then weve been meeting up and going to clubs and bars on the weekend with friends and then her or my place after.
Last weekend I asked her to come round my place that night, didn’t feel like going out, but she was going and said she might come round after. she didnt. she did send me an apologetic text the day after, saying she got really drunk and went to home early. I was like fine no big deal how about monday, she said maybe and was gonna let me know. She didn’t and again the day after she was being really apologetic.
her: Hey sorry i didnt return your call im really busy right now with all the assignments and i just got home from the library! Im dead! Hope you understand x
me: cool
her: [a long text about what shes doing and how busy she is because shes going home for a week next week]
me: you couldve told me earlier and just said no if youre really busy but whatever. ive got loads of work too this week so wont have much time. have fun at home
her: totally forgot [that we were supposed to meet up monday] and I was in bed when you called me [I rang at ten pm]. My bad though sorry…. thanks keep well
I know ive made some mistakes here, obv shouldnt have tried to “disciplin” her and the yeah whatever makes me seem somewhat upset (was having a bad day when I replied). The day after this I read a post here on what to do when girls flake on you but it was too late…
How would other people have handled the situation? Also, how do you handle fuckbuddy relationships?
She has mentioned me visiting her in the summer (” this event is happening in my hometown in 2 months, some friends are coming, you should come too”)
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er: Hey sorry i didnt return your call im really busy right now with all the assignments and i just got home from the library! Im dead! Hope you understand x
me: cool
Good.
her: [a long text about what shes doing and how busy she is because shes going home for a week next week]
me: you couldve told me earlier and just said no if youre really busy but whatever. ive got loads of work too this week so wont have much time. have fun at home
Bad, but not hideously. Don’t blab so much.
her: totally forgot [that we were supposed to meet up monday] and I was in bed when you called me [I rang at ten pm]. My bad though sorry…. thanks keep well
You’re still in the game. Keep it short and cool, and no pressure.
Typically fuck buddies are to the girls either potential boyfriends, or exes who dropped them but whom they still want.
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Thanks for the reply, good to have it confirmed.
Yeah she might see me as boyfriend material, shes introduced me to all her friends and invited me to visit her at home and doesnt like pure booty calls but shes 24 and im 19 so I dont really see it happening tbh.
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Don’t settle down with *anybody* at your age! Don’t even start thinking about an LTR until you’re 30 at least.
–Old Geezer
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Wasnt planning on, shes going back to her home country after the summer, so it wouldnt be a serious relationship anyway.
Today I asked her if she wanted to go to a bar and she was like no and after I told her shes boring because of this, she suggested I should find some other girls. What does this mean?
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Truth is the best policy.
Pay people a compliment based on TOTAL TRUTH and even the suspicious paranoids have to see the logic in it.
“Complimenting” someone on a true job well done or truly good idea, thought etc. is only paying back and acknowledging “The Invisible Hand” that dispenses true wisdom to a lucky few in the first place.
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I don’t know how this would translate in random hookups, but in circle of friends/acquaintances I have to agree. There is nothing like getting a genuine compliment from a man who only gives them when they are truly deserved. One works that much harder to make it happen again.
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In random hookups, time is compressed. Events progress rapidly, leaving the “compliment-er” little realistic basis to establish genuine compliments; you simply haven’t known them long enough other than to remark on the obvious and superficial.
If lucky, a personality trait is revealed where a compliment can be urgently fit in, to advance seduction, but that’s usually a stretch and everybody knows it.
Social circle Game is a better venue.
You’re correct, that getting a genuine compliment from a man who only gives them when they are truly deserved seems special – because it is special. It takes time to discover an individual’s depth, which is why superficial hookup compliments appear forced.
PS if you’re hot, you do know, you don’t have to fuck ninnies
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I thought you were going to go in the exact opposite direction with that.
Hanson says following along with the ruse that your boss doesn’t wish to encourage flattery is itself another form of flattery. The implication is that he’s too high status to care what others think.
With women, you do not want to impart extra status on her. You want to assume that you are the higher status person, and the whole interaction should be within that frame.
If in doubt, think about what a very high status person would do. Would a king say, “I don’t want you to get the wrong idea, but you look like someone who’d be cool to talk to”?
[heartiste: the idea is disqualifying yourself as a sexual prospect from the outset, but going for it anyway later. it’s a pretty well established pickup tactic. i thought it tied in nicely with hanson’s post.]
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I see your point, but your proposals sound to me like disqualifications within the frame of the girl being higher status. Classics like “Just because I flirt a lot doesn’t mean I’m easy” work in the opposite way — they playfully disqualify you and assume that the girl is over-eager. The implication is that you are the prize, not her.
I could be wrong. Ultimately, if people come back saying they’ve had great success with this stuff then that settles it.
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direct works if you have a solid base for attraction IE, you are especially attractive, high status etc. for the avg joes (the avg joe can’t assume hes a “king”, because its completely incongruent), a DQ approach works as long as you don’t sound like you are apologizing for yourself, its more of a casual, “dont take this as a come on, but you are interesting”. girls crave validation and oftentimes they will work for more of it. if they work for it, they must think you are worth working for. i think this is what H is getting at.
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This is all quality stuff but when are you going to get in to the Tavistock mind fucking, Charles Manson groupie chasing, NLP, hypnosis inducing and subliminal communication stuff.
Something like that? A qualifying compliment?
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Unrelated to the topic @ hand but as the credits roll from Vincere, i could’nt resist pondering the dynamics in the movie discussed appreciatively in the Chateau. Only to then google the main actress’s name and be presented with another truth revealed, the ever inevitable wall smashing.
Viva Le Chateau!!
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When I clicked your link to “good psychosexual reason I came acroos the hordes of feminist.
“don’t bother, epic. these mindnumbed tools are only useful as punching bags and victims for the cruel entertainment of the coliseum spectators.
of which i will happily do my part throwing them to the lions.”
Throwing them to the lions you did.
You have another fan.
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This sort of flattery testudo maneuver works very well in places where women still retain an essentially feminine nature, and thus still respond well to positive conversational incursions. It must be used with care otherwise.
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“RH might feel a little embarrassed to get a link from this universally beloved and highly intellectual blog…”
is this some form of hypocritical flattery?
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finally, something real and natural (I recall I used that subconsciously before), easy to use and to the point… The sky is falling political stuff is all good and interesting, but keep it up!
/how did I do hehe
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i don’t want you to read into my adequate punctuation or anything, but that was a damn good post.
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Read. Consider. Laugh.
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/im-sick-of-pretending-i-dont-get-art
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i’ve always find overcoming bias a blog of the nerds, by the nerds and for the nerds.
i have nothing against nerds. my bias towards them is overwhelmingly positive. still, i find it difficult to resonate with them on an emotional level unless i am dealing with some emotionally more evolved ones like … wall-e!
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This is all too choreographed. Once you adopt the right mindset, and set high personal and interpersonal standards, you will be less inclined to compliment directly in the first place and will do so only begrudgingly, only when appropriate. Lesser flatteries – catcalls and wolfish, lusty compliments – might come easily, but they’re as much an insult as a compliment; the ultimate expression of objectification, a neg wrapped in honeyed words.
How often is Chateau, or Roosh, impressed enough by a girl to actually compliment her in a meaningful way? I bet it’s rare. Are they likely to throw out choreographed flattery as a tactic? Sure, but I doubt very much that real, honest compliments come to mind when they’re on the prowl. They’re not bending over backwards trying to let a girl know, subtly, that she’s unique, impressive and exciting.
The result is that the terse, backhanded compliments they DO hand out, those that aren’t new and unique ways of saying “nice ass: you want me” are, in all likelihood so rare and precious, that they are all the more impressive, almost an outgrowth of vulnerability game. They need not be handled so delicately. When you’re in the right mental place genuine, unsheathed emotion ITSELF is a gift that those around you cherish.
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The merits of any tactic could be debated, but in reality, it’s just another tool in the box. When one is tongue-tied in a split-decision moment, this isn’t a bad spin to put on what would otherwise be a chump move.
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so basically, push-pulls, prepping, disqualifers, qualifiers… right ?
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not that i really care, because i really don’t, but i wonder where maya is?
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Something I used tp say a lot to girls w blue or green eyes: Your eyes are almost as nice as mine. It usually got a positive response. Of course I never said it to girls w brown eyes,because brown eyes are gross.
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I would highlight anti-flirting
2-3 recent Women I met on match.com admitted they decided to fuck me before a first date. Key truth marker: they told a friend before.
Case in point Tuesday: met 24/7.5; after 1 month of laser tight game via txt/ nude pics exchanged. Went back to my apt, poured Margaritas dropped my slacks and put in her mouth and banged from 4-6.
Again, had I polluted this interaction with “how’s life” bs, she would of hit brakes.
I call this going past goal posts. If a girl wants to fuck, she may not even flirt at all and just be ready to be taken.
It’s major league game; some of u have been there.
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This article says it’s best to get people to flatter themselves, which most will do given the slightest opportunity (probably even more so with vain hot chicks).
And it goes on to say this sort of indirect flattery makes her feel good about herself when she’s with you and thus like you more. And from this I extrapolate that it helps my chances of nailing her.
So drawing self flattery, like drawing a fowl in basketball, or drawing shit test, is something I’m going to be testing in the field.
An example from my recent memory is promising:
Me: You don’t really need makeup do you?
Her: I was born with really good bone structure…..blah blah blah…..good
genes…….my grandmother……and so on.
Gleaned earlier today from:
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/let-their-words-do-the-talking/201107/get-anyone-you-instantly-guaranteed-1
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A woman writes in 1871 about the perils of female suffrage. Her predictions have come… more than true.
Surprise, surprise. Some how in all my public schooling, or in any Hollywood or HBO movie, I have never heard of women opposing suffrage. Thank you for this Heartiste. I haven’t read the entire thing yet, but I look forward to finishing it.
For your viewing pleasure (I am not sure where I originally saw this. It was very likely here.)
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One thing I’ve noticed is that alphas can do *anything* say *anything* and get laid. You don’t need lines, you don’t need looks, you don’t need $1000 James Bond suits, fuck, sometimes I don’t even bathe.
I’ll illustrate this – When I was in college, I walked into this class room, no guys were there, about 10 girls. My backpack gets stuck on the handle and I am yanked back. A couple of girls laugh. I don’t overreact. Looked at the girl who laughed the loudest. In the eye. 15 seconds. Then. I smirked. A shit eating smirk. And calmly picked up my books, went and sat down couple of rows from her…. I banged her 3 days later. She initiated.
A beta would’ve either blushed like a bride, or laughed sycophantically, or, in mortal mortification rushed out of the class like a 15 year old fat girl teased for being fat. He’d get none. Now I’m 23 and this is a vital part of my game.
Whenever something embarrassing happens, I smirk at the loudest laughing girl.
9 times out of 10 I’ve bedded ’em.
Its what James Bond would do, if he ever tripped. But the motherfucker never does.
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Don’t know if this is the best place to put this but here goes,
in a club the other night I spy a lovely light skinned black chick w/ her blonde girlfriend. She sees me across the crowded room and smiles and waves. For no real reason I shake it off w/ a “are-you-looking-at-me-or-someone behind-me?” look over my shoulder.
She nods to me and I gently shake my head, “sorry” but I point to her friend, who didn’t see the interaction, and give a thumbs up.
Lovely black chick taps her friend who turns to me and smiles. I nod back.
Later I approach them at the bar and comment to blondie, ” I have to say you have a great profile.”
She smiles embarrassedly and struck a pose, cutesy smile.
I say “no, no I met all over and down there too.” pointing to her round bottom.
Then she gives me a real smile!
Girls are always self conscious about their weight and extra sensitive about their back seat. Methinks I’ve stumbled upon a great line.
The evening didn’t progress much past that. I only have flashes of brilliance, can anyone build on this discovery?
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FYI, some have suggested that I delete you from my blogroll because they are offended by your attitudes. I’ve told them that you are insightful, and that is my standard for who is interesting to read. If I were to refuse to read sources that ever included anything I might take offense at, I might run out of sources. I’m glad that you, an insightful blogger, found my post insightful.
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Why don’t you just say, “You’re not a slut, but I want to fuck you.”
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