Power has an effect on the brain almost identical to cocaine.
More than a hundred years after noted historian Baron John Acton coined the phrase ‘power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely’ scientists claim the saying is biologically true.
The feeling of power has been found to have a similar effect on the brain to cocaine by increasing the levels of testosterone and its by-product 3-androstanediol in both men and women.
This in turn leads to raised levels of dopamine, the brain’s reward system called the nucleus accumbens, which can be very addictive.
We all know women are unable to control their primal attraction for powerful men. A cursory examination of the world around you will aptly demonstrate. It makes sense, if you are a man who loves the company of women, to work to become powerful OR to adopt the mannerisms of the powerful, which can have the same influence on dopamine release as possessing objectively measurable power. The behavior of powerful alpha male baboons has some game lessons for humans.
Power has almost identical effects to cocaine and too much of it can produce too much dopamine leading to more negative effects such as arrogance and impatience.
The claims by Dr Ian Robertson may go some way to explain the outlandish and impulsive behaviour of city fatcats, tycoons and celebrities.
Writing in the Daily Telegraph today, he said: ‘Baboons low down in the dominance hierarchy have lower levels of dopamine in key brain areas, but if they get ‘promoted’ to a higher position, then dopamine rises accordingly.
‘This makes them more aggressive and sexually active, and in humans similar changes happen when people are given power.
Women don’t love *power* per se. What they feel instead is a visceral attraction for the ATTITUDE that powerful men exhibit. Attitude and personality are more important to a man’s success with women than his looks, bankroll or material possessions. You can have the latter but still fail with women if you act like a self-doubting beta. But if you have the former you can succeed with women without having the latter. Of course, having all of it is better than having either, but if you had to choose, choose jerkitude.
Arrogance, impatience, outlandishness, entitlement, aggression, sexual voracity and overconfidence — these are the male personality traits that win women over. If you don’t want to toil for 30 years to gain the social or economic power that will imbue you with these sexy characteristics, you can take a short cut and plug into the god machine directly by altering your personality to one that is sexier to women.
“Just be yourself!” is really girl code for “Just be your beta self so I can quickly screen you out!”
Fuck that. Just be your better self. Then sit back and enjoy the exquisite pleasure of screening girls in and out of your rotation.
A reader writes:
How does the elite justify its consistent fucking over of the beta males today?
Glib answer: Because they can.
Glib Lite answer: They’re power tripping.
Have you ever tried to bring a coke fiend down from his exhilarating high? It’s impossible. Nothing will bring those fuckers down until the drug wears off. And coke is so addictive that you are searching for the next bump within seconds after the first one has stopped working. Same with the elite. Their dopamine rush is going full blast. They’ve been snorting lines off whores’ asses since 1965. Best we can hope for now is that they OD and their hearts just give out.
Game is like the cocaine version of power. Same feelings, quicker rush, less work. I know guys who run their best game while doing coke. Cocaine Game. Combine any two of the three and you are unstoppable. Game + societally high status = ladykiller. Game + cocaine = ladyslayer. Societally high status + cocaine = golddigger glue. Game + societally high status + cocaine = Plunderer of Vaginas.
This is all in the Bible somewhere, isn’t it?
Bible? Why yes. Look at King David and his boy Solomon if you want to see examples of power tripping.
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For example, King David sending a guy off to get killed in a war so he could marry the widow.
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Football and potato aren’t mentioned in the Bible too! This says nothing bad about the Bible and both are cool nonetheless!
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“Same with the elite. Their dopamine rush is going full blast. They’ve been snorting lines off whores’ asses since 1965. Best we can hope for now is that they OD and their hearts just give out.”
The inevitability of collapse; it won’t be long now. Another few decades at most, possibly much faster. The power structure becomes sclerotic through the people’s distrust. It crumbles under the weight of its own hubris, c.f. Greece. Then the people begin to spontaneously self-organize, bartering to avoid use of butthexed currency, forming new community-centered organizations, rebuilding that which was plundered by the elite in ways that block the old elite from getting their hooks/blood funnel into it.
The best thing we can do is to avoid as much contact and give as little energy as possible to status quo elite-supporting institutions. It’s been said that the best way to root out terrorism is to stop participating in it.
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By the time a collapse in immanent the elite will decide it’s time for world war 3, and everyone will once again rally together as a group and die for the cause.
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imminent.
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Power doesn’t corrupt – those who are corruptible are more likely to seek power. There are tons of beta male scientists out there who could seize power if they wanted to, but they are actually sane and don’t need an unending power trip. Though, if things keep going as they are, those beta scientists probably will end up having a revolution.
[heartiste: it’s almost like you wrote your comment without even having glanced at the study. hint: having power alters dopamine levels. it will do this for alphas as well as beta scientists.]
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“Power doesn’t corrupt – those who are corruptible are more likely to seek power.”
Lolz. That’s a pretty lie if there ever was one. Sorry tits but human nature isn’t nice and pure and peaceful as some would have you believe.
We are all descendants of Dark Triad men. Bloody, ruthless men. Nature doesn’t favor the good and the just, only the survivors.
Mother nature is a bloody bitch. There is nothing natural about civilization and its efforts to suppress the worst of human nature. Civilization is a stinging bitch slap to mother nature, a defiant middle finger of order in a sea of chaos.
We are all corruptible. Those who think they are immune are the most susceptible to corruption. Give those “beta scientist” a hit of dopamine infused power and see how long they remain benevolent.
And I seriously question the idea that:
“There are tons of beta male scientists out there who could seize power if they wanted to”
Bullshit.
An idle fantasy.
Scientists working experiments, making average pay, scrambling for grants are in no position to seize power from the elites. Not even close.
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“We are all decendants of Dark Triad men. Bloody, ruthless men. Nature doesn’t favor the good and the just, only the survivors.”
Funny, something I thought about a few weeks ago:
I am the end-product of hundreds of thousands of years of war, murder, rape, torture, starvation, disease, and unbridled sexuality. Like fuck I am going to lay down at a woman’s feet like a tame dog.
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Keep up the attitude, that’s what defines you.
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I could also note the popularity of BDSM among computer nerds and other science-y types.
Another giveaway: if a girl likes Ayn Rand, she often enjoys being tied up. 😉
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Yeah. that guy much watch too much TV where mad scientists can make fantastcally-destructive machines (e.g. Stewie from “Family Guy”).
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Women dont love men, queers love men. Women love power.
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Power gave America
Bill Clinton
In a totally different country and society like Afghanistan – Mullah Mohammed Omar.
It’s the people who decide what power is.
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It might be interesting if at some future point a variant of the technologies being developed like the cocaine vaccine now in rat trials were applied to politicians upon election. Call it a Cincinnatus shot or whatever and if the results were the same it would have salubrious effects on the body politic.
It might also put the nations that did it at a technical disadvantage against more aggressive nations but the not a sure thing.
The future of man, Beta like it or not.
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Wouldn’t it be an awful lot simpler to just don’t let the politicians have so much power? It’s not like “the body politic” is actually much of a useful institution.
The next step in evolution will come when, and to those, that stop falling for the nonsense of grouping people by “nations.” They have never been more than a disaster whenever they have been tried; over and over. People don’t need them; the people that don’t have them consistently make evolutionary wiser choices than those who do. All they do, is serve as a playground and reward enhancer for assholes. Let’s focus on getting rid of them already.
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Unfortunately you can’t keep politicians from seeking power and finding some way to get for the same reason that most addicts eventually have to escalate the dosage and so many move from an occasional sniff of powder to being a full bore crack head.
Power like any other dopamine drug can corrupt utterly . Worse that politicians and their servants can insulate themselves from the bad effects , there is no way to check them for long.
As an analogy imagine the biggest dope addict you have ever met. Now what they would do if they needed a hit and suffered very minimal consequences for bad actions. They’d do almost anything. Kill, Rob, Steal etc Now give them a mob of people to follow them. You’d have something resembling a lot of governments.
Since its nearly impossible to watch these potential crack fiends 24-7, its would be better to limit them and to cut of the biological process that results in addiction. This way they won’t want more, not only does the system thwart them but they don’t get any rush from more power anyway. Inertia would reduce the rest.
Its probably not wise to do research like this but given we have already done it, might as well find a new use for it.
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Hah! There is the rub. The Internet has made it easy and practical for men (and women) to form nets, associations, groups etc regardless of geographical and thus also national location. In fact, this blog is a small but illustrative example.
This might lead to interesting developments…..
Thor
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There are plenty of world travelers out there who don’t feel particularly tied to one nation. Now, is probably as good a time as any, to be one of them.
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Interesting to read the science behind the feeling.
During those times when you are on a ridiculous hot streak and can do no wrong, there is literally a high you are on. I’ve felt it, and it is powerful.
You become more of an asshole, more a jerk, but the ladies keep coming. You are unstoppable. Decisions are made because you can, rather than because of their utility or lack thereof. Blunders rarely happen because your vibe is other-worldly. Consequences? What consequences?
When things finally start to slow down a bit, you come down. Maybe some hinsdsight kicks in. I felt a bit this way right after college, and it was weird. I actually was like “damn dude, I threw away a good one or two that I actually miss. And was a total fucking dick. Collateral damage, women in way of the train. But than again, I was also slaying.”
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Ya, that’s real red pill knowledge at its core essence. Assholes and cream rise to the top, and women go after the men on the top.
We do become less nice as those chemical messengers in a feedback loop affect our emotions and libido, and the women are more attracted to this more anti-social personality than the agreeable one.
I like the idea of striving for balance, and some have said that they like humility combined with power. I got that as an sms from a ex today – saying she can’t find a man like me – “manly, humble, took good care of her, and great sex”. I had a 2nd girl when I was living with her and saw a few others and managed 8 staff and so was in a power phase, but I wasn’t giving off a totally uncaring vibe. Powerful but still paternal. That seems a good image that describes balance.
I’ve heard of many in positions of power who wind up feeling out of control and who find themselves being arrogant and overstepping their leadership ability with harmful advice and decisions. I’d like to think that men who strive for wisdom and maturity can, if they hold the values, retain a habit of seeking a balance.
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Since coming to grasps with the fact that assholes and jerks rise to the top, I have struggled to find ways to improve my own station while still serving the greater good(aka not becoming a complete dick). I would appreciate any advice on how to balance these two seemingly conflicting aims.
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The two aims are not “conflicting.” The culture you live in is conflicting. Feminism taught you that aggressiveness, directness, and violence are Evil In Themselves. What the shrikes call “asshole” has always been known in every other place and every other time as “honorable” or “virtuous” or “manly” (vir means “man,” and virtus means masculine). Reconciliation of this conflict is a simple, if difficult matter of realigning the words with the truth. You perception of a paradox is a semantic phenomenon. The feminist’s victory over words is a victory over thoughts, the deepest-seated propaganda there is.
I treat people abruptly and I don’t suffer fools. I am not your BFF who commiserates with a frowny face and words of consolation. Love is not a sentiment. It is a pledge of honor, a dedication, a grim sacrifice. It is willing the good of the other as other. Sentimentality is its nemesis. I am the opposite of nice.
“Assholes and jerks” don’t “rise to the top.” Men rise to the top. That is what we are built for. And with rising comes resentment, and resentment drives the redefinition of manly achievement as asshole-jerkitude. My directness is a blessing to all around me. I cut through feminine fluff, I mean what I say, and I am a known quantity. That attitude makes waves in this world of women we happen to live in at the moment. It pisses off all the wrong people — and attracts the right ones.
Be not afraid. Be humble before one thing and One Thing only — your Lord. No man is above you, but He is above you. “As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall give praise to God.” It is in recognition of the dominion of your Creator that allows you dominion over the created, who gives you the sovereignty to never kneel before a fellow man. From the liturgy next Sunday, in Acts:
You answer to a single authority, the Authority of all authorities. This requires humility, but only about the ultimate matters. In all other circumstances, because of this all-empowering fealty, you may be quite brash. “Let him who boasts, boast in the LORD. … For he who is least among you all is the one who is great.”
Cocky young men listen to this formula for ultimate freedom and can only hear a womanly requirement to submit. But they cannot fathom that “the glory of God is man fully alive” (Irenaeus): It is the submission to the single non-contingent thing that allows you to forgo submission to any contingent thing. It is the rejection of this most needful submission that makes you slave to everything or anything. “When people stop believing in God, they don’t believe in nothing. They believe in anything” (Chesterton apocryphal). Anything, including the idea that we are gods ourselves. Why the hell not?
Quid est veritas? “Every one who is of the truth hears my voice.” A return to the truth of our manly nature is of God, it is the very sound of God’s voice calling us there. A return to the truth cannot be the triumph of the douchebag, it is a contradiction in terms. The truth is strength and assholes/jerks are retard-strong. Their assholishness allows them to break social convention and display a kind of manliness that the simple-submissive rule-followers of the reigning worldly order wouldn’t dare, and in contrast appear manly. Compared to the chump herd, assholes are manly. But acting the twat isn’t the source or summit of manhood. There are other ways to transcend the feminist dominion, and they don’t require sacrificing the good.
Squaring the circle isn’t an easy task in a totalitarian culture of circularity. But no one said it was supposed to be easy. I leave the asshole alpha trickery to my inferiors, whose minds are not expansive enough to imagine new ways when surrounded by the old. Love is what vanquishes all. And everybody knows it. You just have to reclaim the right understanding of love, which is not sentimentality, but the courage for self-sacrifice in the service of the beloved. The mimics can imitate this to some success because our response to true caritas is embedded deeper than anything in our souls.
Betas overdo the imitation, oozing sentimentality and white knighthood, thinking appearance is sufficient. But there is no substitute for the genuine article. No beta-spastic mimicry will fool a woman, and “alpha” assholery is only a more sophisticated imitation of caritas: it is a display of false manliness, offered in caricature because women respond to the kind of convention-bursting strength required of love. It is an appearance easily conjured and easily punctured, but by then you are on to the next bird. This is a workable strategy so long as the pussy is inexhaustible … and your credulous, heartbroken victims never encounter the genuine article.
Matt
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Thank you for your thoughtful reply.
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And you think I need to gather my thoughts in one place? You, sir, are the one who should start a blog. I have said this same thing, though not nearly as well, on a couple of sites. Coming from a woman, it always falls short (as I think is inevitable). You would write an excellent blog.
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Here is xsplat in Thailand: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu-O8fq6WmM
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I think that might be the funniest inside-joke video ever posted on this site. I LOL’ed for the duration.
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It has been said that it is those who do not wish power make the best rulers (or something close to this). Do these men recognize this phenomenon and then fight against it?
[heartiste: george washington, WASP extraordinaire, did. too bad so few leaders have followed his example.]
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King George III didn’t actually believe GW would step down. We may have lucked out that time.
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George Washington? The President who sent the military to crush a tax rebellion which meant going against why the Revolution was fought right from the get-go?
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That’s bullshit. Those motherfuckers were rebelling against their legitimate federal government which of their own state ratified the constitution, so they were also repudiating the legitimacy of their own state government’s action. Taxation with representation, not without.
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And the King’s rule was illlegitimate? King George was rather laissez-faire compared to the U.S. today. The validity of the Revolution was supposed to be determined by the ruled not the rulers. Either freemen were more badass in those days or the King’s few infringements were particularly nasty. I think it’s the former.
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@Gil
“freemen were more badass in those days
Absolutely. One of the keys is that few of the founders were working a steady job for a salary (in fact, in general, this was the exception. A “job” was something concrete and usually quite limited, “Painting that barn will be a big job!”.
If power is like cocaine, then the attachment to a steady salary is the Valium + Prozac of the 20th and 21st century. It’s like “A Perfect Day” by Ira Levine.
Thor
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The country was much less populated back then and there was a high demand for labor. Even so, it does seem like not having a government subsidized safety net would be a good way to keep a population strong.
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I don’t wanna be a moralizing pushover here, but careful about cocaine. I’ve been hooked on it for a couple of years. That’s stupid of course, but don’t judge my past mistakes (OK now I sound like a reformed slut…).
Seriously though, it drained my finances (I could own my own house right now), and fucked up my confidence on the long-term. I’ve been on a long male-enhancing road since then (gym, game, self help stuff…) but I lost like 4 years because of that shit. And I’ve been lucky that I didn’t lose my job.
Not denying that it’s a great confidence booster if it’s used intelligently, but seriously, no more than once every two weeks, and that’s pushing it.
Best is to avoid it if you’re not a millionaire with a rock solid identity (or inner game if you prefer).
It’s like steroids, if you can achieve a satisying physique with only prot shakes, there’s no need to juice it up. Same with coke, don’t do it unless you’ve tried everything else and failed.
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the fuck is wrong with you retards? Coke is not alpha.
Unless youre charlie sheen. Coke will ravage your life. Peering out the windows paranoid about the cops every two seconds, at 4:30 in the morning.
Sure girls will fuck druggies, but that shit comes at a huge cost, and is NOT the sole way in which you can be successful with women. Far from it.
Exercise and take care of yourself,. Approach women and increase skill. Then youll be climbing the confidence ladder. And don’t infect the rest of us with the opinion that coke is a last resort, you’d be a fucking moron to even entertain start down that road.
Anyone whos been addicted to anything knows what i mean.
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This is why there are so many police officers that maybe even start out with good intentions but that end up being utter shitstains, driving drunk and all kinds of horrible actions because they’re used to getting away with it and having more power than the average citizen.
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“The power structure becomes sclerotic through the people’s distrust. It crumbles under the weight of its own hubris, c.f. Greece. Then the people begin to spontaneously self-organize, bartering to avoid use of butthexed currency, forming new community-centered organizations, rebuilding that which was plundered by the elite in ways that block the old elite from getting their hooks/blood funnel into it. ”
The problem is that historically that’s not what tends to happen. Instead as the elites get more and more out of control everything just goes to shit. Look at ancient Rome. As Rome expanded and it transitioned from a republic to empire the elites kept consolidating their power and diminishing rights for everyone else – including relying more and more on an expanding slave pool. Meanwhile the exanding empire needed bigger and bigger armies which needed bigger and bigger pay which simply mean bigger and bigger taxes. Inflation was out of control. It got so bad free citizens were walking away from their lands and properties (due to impossibly high taxes) and allowing city aristocrats to suck up their livelyhoods. The whole thing became destablized and started to fall apart. Rome eventually had to buy off their border enemies – until the border enemies realized Rome was a paper tiger.
The whole point is that elites will never learn. Elites will only get worse and worse. They will drag the whole thing down if they have to. They will live in their palaces while screaming let them eat cake. There is no orderly way out because those in power will not relinquish it. Instead they will build a bigger army, bigger government, bigger system of privileges. There is a reason why the American founders called for a revolution every once in a while. But the process will never be orderly or clean.
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Would you do different?
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Who cares if it is orderly or clean, as long as it happens?
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Perversely, Chairman Mao had a point. You need a new revolution every generation to keep the sclerosis away. Mao called it the great cultural revolution, basically fighting the bureaucracy that was largely his own creation, at least indirectly.
Thor
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Legal version of cocaine. Works for me.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/prima/phenylethylamine.html
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“Orally ingested phenethylamine is usually inactive because of extensive first-pass metabolism by monoamine oxidase (MAO) into phenylacetic acid, preventing significant concentrations from reaching the brain.”
So that means you bump it?
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This is just retarded. PEA lasts for around 5 minutes and its buzz is mild at best. Unless you want to risk a hypertensive crisis and take it with deprenyl (Selegiline) – an MAO inhibitor, that is – feel free. More room for me, and Darwin would be happy.
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(Kissinger voice) “Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac.”
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“Women don’t love *power* per se. What they feel instead is a visceral attraction for the ATTITUDE that powerful men exhibit”
A lot of people disagree with you about this. Many feel that attitude alone is enough for the young, but when you get older a big percentage of women will look for real signs of power when considering relationships. For one night stands it can be less of a concern. I’m not saying you always need money if you are old, just that we all know that there is some percentage of females who look for money, and so money will give a man a larger dating pool. Attitude is not an equivalent to money, therefore.
It would be a shame if men neglected their careers based on well meaning advice.
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Few men will do that, you need money for other reasons. Eventually you’ll starve to death on the street.
What might be true is that if you’re only an average guy, striving for the corner office is a waste of effort and you might get more out of life working on game.
If you’re a total geek, your innate game capacity might be so low you might be better off just going for the money. If you know you’ve peaked in the workforce, might be worth working on game instead. It depends on the dude, his abilities, and his position and place in life.
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I hear you about capacities. Some are total geeks or have other disadvantages and would be well served by also playing to their strengths, if their strengths include money. Also. Strong deficits need strong work to overcome.
We have limited time and focus, but it’s still hard for me to see it as an either/or problem. I’ve heard of plenty of people who have been able to focus on both at the same time. In fact I’ve often heard it said that game is a whole life philosophy of self improvement that includes going to the gym and doing well in business.
Yes, we need money to live, but having pussy as an incentive to make more money is a time honored incentive that works wonders. Why use game as a philosophy to remove that incentive? I agree that being a cubicle drone is no life. And it seems that not all have the capacity for entrepreneurship. But for those with some capacity, a long term view of their attraction and how to alter that for the better is what men do. We don’t just rely on our looks and social skills – we work hard in many other areas of competition.
I’ve heard of guys in their sixties who are at an average financial station in life continuing to do well with the twenty something girls. They retain some of their above average handsomeness and continue to cultivate charm and experience. That’s one approach to life I won’t be taking – that’s far too risky. I plan to be forward thinking and position myself.
Since the age of 9 I’ve been an entrepreneur, and for most of my adult life I’ve lived hand to mouth, punctuated by occasional periods of very high income. But decade after decade I never gave up, and had a goal, and a goal that was only meaningful to me if I did it my way. In the last two years I’ve found some stable success and have strong income, and in the next two I have two new businesses that could put me into the top 5% of income or better. But having big money in the bank is no way to leverage that for life improvement. I’ve come up with a ten year plan:
The plan is grow my existing and new businesses until I have great personal capital, then to create and manage a resort that has fun stuff to do, such as a water park, motorcross rental and a small motorcross track, sail and small boat rental, an arcade, trampoline bungee jumping, mini-golf, go-cart racing, a hotel, restaurant and bar and club, and anything else that is fun. I’ll hire a professional online seducer/wingman to seduce girls for me and will have the budget to fly them in at my expense, thus keeping me in a Hugh Hefner lifestyle.
Now I understand my ten year plan is about getting to the top 5% and then leveraging that power into a very active social position that makes me a rock star in my own private heaven. You can’t really advocate that decision, as that takes talent, ambition, and luck. However in my life I’ve seen first hand many times the difference that the lifestyle you can afford makes on your social opportunities, and have experienced first hand that even modest differences are modest differences. Social positioning through money is one of the aspects of life that is important to a man. Neglecting that is neglecting life satisfaction potential. The trick is to pursue financial stability in a balanced way that gives satisfaction and allows one social access. Gorbachev gave good advice to young people on this forum a while back. His background is not entrepreneurship, but is in TV media, and he advocates for men to not pursue the big bucks, but moderate bucks in a career that is social and has them meeting women regularly. The individual approach to career and money will be different for everyone – I prefer a location independent lifestyle of entrepreneurship, some prefer seasonal high paying jobs, some engineering, etc.
In your imagination, think about your sixties. How will the last three decades have maximized your everything you can maximize to be in the best possible position you can be in? This is the job of men, to plan their attractiveness level for the long vision.
And whoever replies, please don’t reply with either or. Remember the word and. We have the choice to improve everything we have the choice to improve.
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Now that income is coming in, have you considered moving some or all of your business offshore, possibly including yourself?
Thor
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I’ve been in SEA for the last dozen years.
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OOPS, now I remember. And SEA is South East Asia, not SEAttle,
as the airport code for SeaTac.
What is your type of business(es)?
Thor
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I don’t talk about what I do specifically, but I’ve run a variety of entrepreneurial efforts, many done online. I’m pretty crappy at what I do, but I’m persistent and old.
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I’ve often advocated being a bit of a hothead. If the powerful are impatient and arrogant, then NOT having a tight reign on your emotions shows more signs of power than doing so.
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In the state of nature, aggression is met with aggression unless one of the parties knows it would lose in a face off. Thus, showing verbal aggression towards another male, and having him not respond, is interpreted by the reptile/monkey brain as you having significantly more power then him.
Consciously we may say “well I’m not responding because to do so would be juvinile and its not worth going to prision over”. Women may even agree with this aloud on a conscious level and applaud you for your enlightened rational decision.
However, that’s not what their inner monkey sees. It sees a male monkey making you into its bitch- and you agreeing to wear the panties with your failure to respond. The other monkey has more power- and the female will see will feel arousal ques to go and mate with it and discard the useless weak monkey thats next to it. Its only a matter of time until the trecherous monkey brain offers up the vag to the monkey that’s “impulsive, has anger management issues, is arrogant, and rudely impatient” (and any other “negative” adjectives that women use to try to hide the power interpretation dynamic from beta males).
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” In the state of nature, aggression is met with aggression unless one of the parties knows it would lose in a face off. Thus, showing verbal aggression towards another male, and having him not respond, is interpreted by the reptile/monkey brain as you having significantly more power then him.”
this is not true. not only that, it is the exact opposite of reality. for EGs, youtube alpha lion vs beta lion. or google what GSP does when random ppl try and fight him in a bar.
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True, but you might also get beat up or killed. You have to decide if the girl is worth it. It might be worth it taking the girl as a loss and going to another bar.
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I find that taking a Nuvigil and some dopamine suppliments produces a high very similar to cocaine, that lasts for multiple hours, at a fraction of the cost.
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You have to have a script for Nuvigil. Controlled substances are not easy to get. .
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Priacetam you can get OTC (Amazon).
NYC: What sort of dopamine supplements were you taking?
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Piracetam (and the other -racetams) are great for increasing concentration, memory recall, learning retention, and verbal agility. They’re not good for making you feel like you’re a god, in fact I feel less aggressive and horny when I take them.
In terms of Dopamine, mainly L-Dopa. I noticed a huge difference when I supplimented them with a Nuvigil. Much greater feelings of cockiness, aggression, and arrogance. The Nuvigil acts as the Dopamine release agent; its not as potent as cocaine- so you either have to take more (which means you’ll be awake for MUCH longer as well) or get the most out of your Dopamine. Since L-Dopa is easy to get ahold of- the choice was obvious.
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What’s the best l-dopa supplement you have taken(brand, name, etc.). Also is nuvigil necessary for it to work properly?
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Nuvigil is Schedule IV; and (according to the drug info the company dispenses) it is non-addictive; both of which make it a “no one from the government will hassle me down the line if I write for this” in a physician’s eyes.
f you can make the case that you have sleep apnea, narcolepsy, or shift sleep disorder then you’ll easily be able to get some.
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Just look into research chemicals. Any psychedelic with mild MDMA like effects will make you godlike. Why? Because you’ll be fun – in the moment – have zero anxiety (alpha) and be able to read the girls like open books as your latent inhibition is lowered to extraordinary degrees. Talk about mind-reading…
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Has anyone tried suppliementing with high levels of L-Dopa and dopamine precurosors? I bet the Cocaine high is significantly higher per bump…..
The only question is if your baseline will be higher as well (as it would were the dopamine levels the result of an increase in status).
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This is exactly why the founders worked so hard to create a system in which no single faction could gain too much power. Check out some of the stuff by James Madison, the grandfather of the constitution. Many of the ideas for governmental structure he proposed were specifically designed to prevent anyone group of political party from becoming to powerful. He knew that power corrupts.
Unfortunately I don’t think the founders foresaw what a huge impact massive corporations would have on politics. It is quite clear that big business and their political puppets have become the ultra-powerful faction that our founders so feared.
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Pretty much, which is why I’m more or less liberal–I’m not fond of the feminists or NAMs, but I think the corporations are more destructive on the macro-scale.
And I can’t blame the Founders for not being able to see 100 years in the future. All they had to worry about was power-hungry kings and nobles.
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Did they? The people might have thought something like that. However the evidence shows that the Founders simply wanted a homegrown government, i..e. the same as what they were fighting against except they didn’t have to anyone. For everyone else things were much the same, if not outright worse.
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I read about a study somewhere claiming low-status individuals were much more susceptible to cocaine addiction seemingly because they crash much harder when it wears off. This study sounds like a consilience.
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That reminds me of a personal anecdote. I was in a downtown NY parking sitting with my new buddy in my car, inhaling a large nugget of crack he’d scored earlier in the day. I’d tried coke a few times, but this was my first introduction to the hard stuff.
My impression at the time was that it was nowhere near as sublime and pleasurable as the pleasures of meditation and strong post-meditation experiences.
But some approaches to meditation are not in line with increasing power and status, and so I have to wonder about the overall effect on dating. I can think of many positive aspects that do help a good deal, but I’d guess that overall when you include the background philosophies and values the gestalt of the meditative lifestyle tends to be dating neutral. That lifestyle lacks edge, on it’s own.
Meditation has been shown to increase the baseline happiness set point we all have, and perhaps increases status somewhat as it may lead to the person being more present and comfortable, but it’s a tool, not the full toolbox. When it was my main focus I was greatly lacking in other important areas.
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Do shrooms. Then we’ll talk.
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Hasn’t everybody done shrooms?
What is it about shrooms that you wanted to talk about?
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Interesting things about Washington. All who knew him BEFORE the Revolution said he was unbelievably … arrogant. And also extremely private and indeed, shy. These two traits combined may have led him to reject power. Because he already had high levels of dopamine, i.e. an arrogant, self-centered image of himself. While being offered kingship of America was thought of as a burden (devoting himself to dealing with tiresome people he would rather avoid).
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’Baboons low down in the dominance hierarchy have lower levels of dopamine in key brain areas, but if they get ‘promoted’ to a higher position, then dopamine rises accordingly.’
How do you promote a baboon? Tell the other baboons he is now an Alpha? lol You’re going to fool the other baboons that Travis the Omega is now the Alpha? And if Travis did become an Alpha then he did it on his own and really is an alpha. And frankly I don’t think anyone is measuring the dopamine levels of baboons who have risen to alpha status in the wild. Even in captivity you’d need to measure every baboon and then wait to see if a lower ranking one somehow became an alpha and then measure the levels again. But even here it’s hard to say which came first. Was it the increased level that made him an alpha, or did he become an alpha and then the dopamine level increased. And btw, the actual level as with Testosterone isn’t as important as the increase compared to the normal for an individual.
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How do you promote a baboon? Create a vacuum by removing a baboon higher than him in the hierarchy.
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But all that would show is that the baboon was near the Alpha level to begin with.
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“get promoted” should not be taken to mean that the human experimenters make it happen (although there are ways they could, such as extra food for the one to be promoted, or some other benefit). It could just mean those who get promoted by themselves, or by sheer luck, or whatever.
Thor
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Washington? Well he was tall, a colonel in the British army, one of the best horsemen in the colonies, and married a very wealthy good looking female. He was an Alpha and I doubt he was very shy. He did serve 2 terms as President but probably wanted to get back to making some real money before he got too old. Did I mention that he was also a very good businessman?
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Actually, he was shy, but it wasn’t as big of a handicap in those days. You could be ‘private’ and ‘reserved’ in person.
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And you know this for a fact or is this something you want to believe because you’re shy?
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The Bible wouldn’t be worth much if it didn’t include this stuff!
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I’ve just watched the first few minutes of this and it’s already a little spooky to me. Does it get better? Someone tell me.
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Haven’t you heard? It Gets Better.
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xsplat
By the time a collapse in immanent the elite will decide it’s time for world war 3, and everyone will once again rally together as a group and die for the cause.
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we had world war iii well ok still going on but next one would be world war iv actually if ya looked it might be like wwx
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WWIII was the Cold War. WWIV is the War on Islam, a k a The Tenth Crusade.
Please note, I didn’t say a war on “Islamofascism” or “Islamism” or “Islamic Extremism” or (worst of all) “Global War on Terror.” I said, “War on Islam.” The religion.
The Fourth World War will be over when the last goat-herding dusty desert dishtowel kneels before the cross placed atop the Kaaba. We’re about a hundred years behind them and off to a shitty start, but we are rich enough to afford the inattention. For now.
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yea i just read article bout the head of what is it anti terror something or other was like yea the pakis asked us to stop bombing in their country with the uavs he is like yea i think we are setting precedents so we are trying to be careful and i kind of feel bad about shooting hellfire missiles into peoples houses and killing families but hey fuck em we will do whatever we want
cia and shit must be working overtime in like egypt and syria like instigating everyone.
kadafii gone some dude just talking about being about to go into iran
we smoking everybody for sure and paying people from around the world to help
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The war on terror is important to the élites for two reasons:
1) It enhances their power – but you knew that
2) The terror is real enough, but to the average person probabilistically insignificant threat. HOWEVER, if you are a Congresscritter, high govt. official, or an industrial tycoon, your worries are rational – you are many orders of magnitude more likely to be a target.
Thor
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so right now i guess proving we have basically absolute power now and using it to do what the fuck we want around the world. Pretty sure we could bitchslap china or russia at the moment.
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That’s wishful thinking, mixed with your usual christian hubris.
If christianity is still present in more than half a dozen churches in 100 years, I’d call that a victory.
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The “gates of hell” have “not prevailed” for two thousand years, not even close, and yet “Anon” is confident the gig is up and pretty soon. Christianity is growing faster than any time in its history. The godless precincts are sterile, have chosen suicide, and will be a non-factor in two or three generations. You ill-informed blowhards have officially bored me.
I’m okay with the ignorance. Everybody can’t know everything. It’s the presumption that baffles me. Like you think you know something. Who told you you have the first clue about any of this? Enough to pronounce upon it publicly?
But then, you aren’t really making a public statement, are you “Anon”? Some anonymous twit will never be called to account for his idiocy, he may express it freely. You are letting off steam. You have zero clue who or what is pulling your strings. Again: fine. But how can you be so shallow and so satisfied? There is more to life than mindlessly repeating what you’ve heard. Tool.
Matt
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Agreed. The facts are against you, anon.
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I wonder if works the other way around too?
Would a man who learned game and gain those overconfident alpha male traits be more likely to gain power?
I’d love to see a scientific study of men who are trained in game and see how their trajectory varies over 1 year against a control group.
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“I know guys who run their best game while doing coke” —truth.!!! some druglords dont have to say they are druglords to be respected ,loved and desired, they just have to be on cocaine.
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there is a difference to being on coke and having coke though he he he
bitches that want coke and you have it love your and desire your coke
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“Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad.”
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Nah, women like powerful men and their attitudes as their attitudes will bring the power. If women see no proof of your supposed power attitude then they’ll know you’re a faker. They know there’s something speical about an Alpha male that Betas can’t match. Especially as women love Alphas when they’re doing life in prison. After all, it’s long known that seeing a good-looking woman causes a man’s brain to go stupid in a way that ordinary women can’t
To the question, how does the elite justify its consistent fucking over of the beta males today? Who’s fucking over whoom? How do you know they’re winning or they’re not doing anything to you rather you’re just a loser, period. They’re not fast, you’re just slow. They’re not tall, you’re just short. Etc. . . .
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“Women don’t love *power* per se. What they feel instead is a visceral attraction for the ATTITUDE that powerful men exhibit. Attitude and personality are more important to a man’s success with women than his looks, bankroll or material possessions”
True, to extrapolate on that point somewhat ,women dont quite admire power as much the TRAPPINGS of power.The pomp,the ceremony,regalia,uniforms,wealth,luxury and so on.
No one does this better than third rate gangster states such as Libya and Saddams Iraq and other Arab /African kleptocracies, women from various backgrounds told me that they found these rogues sexy but George W Bush or Reagan to be as appealing (to quote Whiskey) a cold bowl of oatmeal.
Of course it never occurs to women, that these sexy gangsters routinely get their ass kicked by these boring,dull schlubs.
This is because women dont quite understand real power and what it constitutes.
Defeating these thug alphas itself is not enough to diminish their appeal but
HUMILIATION.Oh yes, GWB made right the decision by having the dissheveled,disoriented ,filthy Saddams mouth probe(a sort of rape) by the American medic filmed and broadcast to the world.
Women love a guy who humiliates,abuses his power,steals from his citizens for his ostentious displays of wealth and ceremony.In other words everything that Western civilization with its curbs on power,emphasis self reliance,spartan aesthetics,Christian morality and republican government is not.
And they have voting rights…why?
Game is not so much about power but assuming the trappings of power which is why it works.
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Yup. Couldn’t have said it better.
Thor
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Coke basics: When the brain is flooded with dopamine, it triggers a feedback loop. Basically the brain finds out “Gosh darn it, there’s tons of dopamine here, more than we need. Better shut down some of the intakes to avoid overheating”. Then the synapses reduce dopamine uptake, resulting in lower dopamine activity than before coke for weeks, months or even years or a lifetime, in addition to all the other brain problems that can occur, such as major or minor strokes or local damage, accelerated brain aging and decrease in brain mass or function from the remaining chemicals used in manufacturing. So coke isn’t really an expensive or dangerous cure for low dopamine levels, on the contrary it decreases them significantly except for a few hours. It doesn’t cure anything except happiness, health and having money.
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Using uppers is like living it up in style – on credit. Fun until the bills come in.
Thor
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During those times when you are on a ridiculous hot streak and can do no wrong, there is literally a high you are on. I’ve felt it, and it is powerful.
This is so. Confidence breeds confidence. Females are more attracted to you as a result. And as you get more females into your circle, more females will acknowledge you as desirable. Not to mention men acknowledging you as higher up on the feeding chain.
But you have to maintain the momentum. Because it’s the sort of thing if you stop to think about it, it goes away. You can’t ever doubt that the betas–and females–will be following you. To be leader of the pack, you can never look back.
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So, you are saying that a woman’s ultimate dreamboat is a dude on a power trip? I concur and so does “power is the greatest aphrodisiac” Henry Kissinger.
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“Game + societally high status + cocaine = Plunderer of Vaginas.”
Charlie Sheen, anyone???
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@editor
“Women don’t love *power* per se. What they feel instead is a visceral attraction for the ATTITUDE that powerful men exhibit. ”
Yes and no. They like power, but watching the attitude is a shortcut,
unless the man is truly famous.
@editor
About “just be yourself”, this is also well-intentioned but horrible advice
from men with game/attraction/whatever to friends who are less successful. “Be yourself” works for the men who were successful from the start. So they believe this works – which it does, for THEM. But the advice seeker’s
“yourself” is not very attractive or he would not be asking. Editor once wrote something about the best advice coming not from somebody with gobs of natural talent (at anything), but from somebody with modest talent who worked himself or herself up to great performance.
Thor
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no necessarily bad, but “overconfidence, aggresion, IMPATIENCE, etc.” are all signs of beta looser. Attractive man does not do it, ´cos well he has never need to do it in the first place. He has been chosen from the young age by the females.
Alpha takes women. He does not persuade them. He immediately earns a respect from random woman on the street just for being there and doing NOTHING. His genes are good, he knows it. He does not have to advertize it. She KNOWS it as well. She is constructed to FUCK him and as the emotional robot she is, she WILL fuck him given half the chance.
Alphas do not get women due to the thing that they are jerks, they are getting women IN SPITE of it. One thing betas need to learn is THE POISE, THE SILENT confidence, and the SWIFT attack (when she is ready) of attractive men. This is a style of a man who is fucking promqueens. Not the cocky/funny clowning bullshit for bar sluts.
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Cokeheads fucking HATE me. They absolutely cannot stand me for my natural confidence. Plus I make fun of them openly.
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