It’s a regular trope of feminists that male sexists are bitter, beta male losers. “Oh, you hate women because you suck with them”, and vice versa. It’s very comforting to feminists — actually, to all women — to believe that only resentful losers they don’t find attractive would harbor sexist thoughts. It’s very discomforting to feminists to entertain the thought that happy-go-lucky men who do well with women would be brazenly sexist.
But the truth, as per usual, falls squarely in the “discomforting to feminists” camp.
Research indicates that the endorsement of sexist ideology is linked to higher subjective wellbeing for both men and women. We examine gender differences in the rationalisations which drive this effect in an egalitarian nation (New Zealand). Results from a nationally representative sample (N = 6,100) indicated that the endorsement of Benevolent Sexism (BS) predicted life satisfaction through different mechanisms for men and women. For men, BS was directly associated with life satisfaction. For women, the palliative effect of BS was indirect and occurred because BS-ideology positioning women as deserving of men’s adoration and protection was linked to general perceptions of gender relations as fair and equitable, which in turn predicted greater levels of life satisfaction.
So if you are a benevolent sexist — that is, you believe men and women are psychologically different and respond to stimuli in different ways, and that women are the weaker sex deserving of male protection — you are more likely to be a happy person than the man (or woman!) who clings to a bitter feminist ideology that assumes biological and psychological equality between the sexes.
And that’s really got to stick in the craw of any feminist who comes ambling through the Chateau happy hunting grounds. Not only are sexist men happier in life, but women in the company of sexist men are happier as well! Paging sad vegetable lasagna Alex Pareene…
But that’s not all. Sexist men make more money than their manboobed counterparts. And, in what is sure to be a shot straight to the flabby feminist gut, women are more sexually receptive to assertively sexist men.
The popularity of speed-seduction techniques, such as those described in The Game (Strauss 2005) and advocated in the cable program The Pickup Artist (Malloy 2007), suggests some women respond positively to men’s assertive mating strategies. Drawing from these sources, assertive strategies were operationalized as involving attempts to isolate women, to compete with other men, and to tease or insult women. The present investigation examined whether hostile and benevolent sexism and sociosexuality, the degree to which individuals require closeness and commitment prior to engaging in sex, were associated with the reported use of assertive strategies by men and the reported positive reception to those strategies by women. It was predicted men and women who were more sexist and had an unrestricted sociosexuality would report using more and being more receptive to assertive strategies. Study 1 (N = 363) surveyed a Midwestern undergraduate college student sample, and regression results indicated that sociosexuality was associated with assertive strategy preference and use, but sexism only predicted a positive reception of assertive strategies by women. Study 2 (N = 850) replicated these results by surveying a larger, national U.S. volunteer sample via the internet. In addition to confirming the results of Study 1, regression results from Study 2 indicated that hostile sexism was predictive of reported assertive strategy use by men, suggesting that outside of the college culture, sexism is more predictive of assertive strategy use.
tl;dr — chicks dig sexist jerks.
None of this should come as a surprise to my alpha male readers (estimated at around 20% of readership). If you’ve spent any time in the company of other alpha males, or if you are an alpha male yourself, you know how sexist in-demand, high value men can be, whether shooting the unmonitored breeze with male friends or challenging the preconceptions of feisty girls. And you know how much women swoon for those sexist pigs.
Some of the best sexist jokes I’ve heard came straight from the mouths of top gun alpha males. Some of the most revolting, too. And you wanna talk about how badly men objectify women? Try listening to a player describe in delicious detail every nook and cranny of the broads he boffs. Bitter beta males bemoaning the unfairness of getting the shaft in divorce court are veritable wymyn’s studies graduates and honorary lesbians in comparison to their distant alpha male cousins.
Now don’t get the wrong idea; alpha males are breathtakingly sexist, but they aren’t spiteful about it, nor do they allow their cynicism to ruin a good time. They love women as women, not as substitute men, and if that imbues them with an air of condescending paternalism, then so be it. Chicks dig that, too.
The trick is to coat your sexism in a lacquer of smooth cockiness. Call it: sexism with a smirk. You never want to logically argue with a feminist, at least not in typical social situations; you want to mock her. Preferably mercilessly. You don’t want to launch into diatribes about the double standard of paying for drinks; you want to tease a girl asking you to buy her a drink if she’d like your debit card as well. You don’t want to make a fuss about holding a door open for a hot chick; but you do want to let it slam in her face if she’s ugly or obese. You don’t want to discuss loaded feminist topics on a first date; but you do want to chide a girl who gives you feminist guff over drinks. She’ll appreciate your refreshing boldness*, or she’ll become indignant. If the latter, you’ll know it’s safe to stiff her with the check. Or just stiff her.
*Most girls will appreciate the sexist’s boldness, because the type of girl who would be stupid enough to bring up feminist topics on a first date is usually the type of girl who, regrettably, dates way too many beta males and is sick of their sycophancy. She is testing the waters for real manliness, which means real sexism… the kind of Draperesque sexism that drives women wild with the opposite of closed-vagina indifference.

pro-sex feminists like the slutwalkers dig alpha sexists more than any other kind of women, in my experience. just stay amused.
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very glad about reading it! i were almost killed when i said to feminist that such demostration would ruin our moviment more than helping it.
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You know what. Thank you. I don’t know how many other guys out there maybe felt, at one point, that gee, I’m not in with the times on this whole sexism thing, that maybe I’m being left behind. But, it’s good to know that I am right and proper in being happy.
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I haven’t denied being sexist since my third year in college.
“In some ways sure. I don’t think that men and women are psychologically the same for biological/genetic reasons as well as cultural ones. I think both men and women a usually happier in an intimate relationship if the man is playfully dominant and generally takes the lead on big things and things he wants to, and in relationship and dating things. I think men should lead their female partners.”
Some men and women are different but most of the time when men and women listen to feminist advice to the contrary of what I said, I think it leads them to be less happy in the relationship over time.
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Finally. BS I can believe.
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If it’s “BS”, then why believe?
The fact is…Heartiste’s not been wrong on pretty much any of it so far.
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Uhhh, anyone want to throw Anon a bone here?
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*crash* Sorry!!! I have bad aim.
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Amusement, mild condescension and mockery are the way to go.
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yes.
Rule #3: Conceal your intentions
Rule #9: Win through your actions, not through argument
Rule #38: Think as you like but behave like others
Meaning, we all know the rules about buying women drinks, but that’s for us to know, that’s not for discussion.
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that’s gold, jerry! gold! best post in a while.
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None of this is very surprising. The only surprising thing is that academics find this noteworthy. It is just common sense.
And why call it “sexism”? If men and women both prefer it, why pathologise it and use stupid cant terms like “sexist”?
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Academics don’t find it noteworthy – as much as they find it SOMETHING to write to write about in the never-ending “Publish or Perish” merry-go-round.
Notice, that academics are in fact, the most unoriginal, conformist thinkers in America.
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Seconded on the conformist assertion. I dropped out of academia after starting on my masters degree. I found the professors at the university I attended to be exceedingly liberal in slant and the students to be more of the same. My fellow students with brains of mush very easily fell in lock step with all sorts of idiocy asserted by the professors. Rather than be a debt-ridden, token sane person, I split.
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Notice, that academics are in fact, the most unoriginal, conformist thinkers in America.
Indeed… the institutions of learning, where open-mindedness and the quest for truth are supposed to be tantamount, invariably turn out to be the most thought-restrictive and enforced lock-step er satz asylums.
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I call it complementarianism..
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sexism with a smirk = amused mastery
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I enjoy loudly making sexist comments to my hot girlfriend while we are out and about here in SWPL land.
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I can tell you all this is true from experience. When I was a smart-ass little college freshman I would (unwittingly) draw women in with this stuff. I didn’t know better. I thought it was funny. So, apparently, did the girls, judging by my notch count from ages 17-19.
Sample freshman year dorm convo: “So you plan on having kids?” “Yes.” “Wanna practice?” “You’re disgusting!” Maybe so, but she was the one back in my room later on.
And then I got involved in college “issues” and got “educated.” I began to engage women intellectually (gag!) as “equals” instead of making my usual semi-disrespectful comments in the margins.
Anyone wanna guess what happened to the old notch count after that?
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You were nice and respectful to women so they assumed there must be something wrong with you.
One of the most vexing things about how they’re wired.
Some lessons are best learned the hard way. That way you don’t forget.
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Reminds me of a little story from last year. Friends of my wife, Jewish couple, he’s got a successful accounting business, she’s a surgeon, and pretty hot looking – hour glass figure, all tits and ass, beautiful face, bluest blue eyes – probably an 8. She mentions that she’s taking ballroom dancing lessons as a way to stay fit,and likes it a lot so far.
Hearing this I chime in:
Me: “I think it’s a wonderful thing for a girl to take ballroom dancing lessons!”
Hottie: “Right, it’s good exercise and it gets you out of the house”
Me: “NO. That’s not what I meant at all. Ballroom dancing forces a girl to follow the lead of her male partner. So she learns how to properly follow and bend to a man’s will…” (smirk)
Hottie: “What the hell!” (rabbit punches me in the gut)
Me: (Deadpan) “It’s true”
Hottie: (Walks off indignantly… slightly sashaying her hips)
An hour or more passes, and we’re parting company, but out of earshot of her hubby or my wifey.
Hottie: “Goodbye” (Hugs me, mashes her big titties into my chest)
Me: “See ya soon!”
Hottie: (Hushed voice) “You know, you should really think about taking up ballroom dancing… I’m looking for a new partner (Raises eyebrows suggestively)
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Thanks for posting that Destination Unknown video. I had never seen that. Very pleasing to see those chicks all lined up wagging their tails.
I am taking my wife to ballroom dancing lessons at the moment.
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@David,
In terms of ballroom dancing, the Tango is probably the one where the guys do the most leading – also one of the hardest to master – but is a great way to civilize a girl to her role in your life 😉
If you liked that video, you might also find this video amusing – gives a little taste of Eastern European girls (in this case Romanian I believe).
Alexandra Stan – Lollipop:
Enjoy!
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Lately, we have been concentrating on the waltz. But there is a move we have learned in the tango, cuban walk I think, in which the man justs walks straight into the woman and forces her backwards. My wife keeps making nervous jokes about the whole thing, but she is the one who likes it, and I think it turns her on.
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I watch a lot of Russian pop music videos. Its nice to see non trashy white women perform. I miss RUTV from when I lived in Germany.
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Well written! I’m feeling uncomfortable activity beneath my laptop. Like a sexy movie from a long time ago, we get to imagine the rest. But do fill us in if anything happens.
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that story put some lead in my pencil
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Feminist discovers partner dancing:
http://jezebel.com/5817721/how-an-untrendy-partner-dance-made-me-less-of-a-jerk
Reading that made me realize how feminists are really just the female version of socially clueless beta/omega males. Being socially clueless convinces them that men and women are the same socially/psychologically
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And realize just how much these women are detested by a difficult to quantify visceral mass of male selection. As much as I can cumulatively develop reasons for hate, it just seems more than the sum of its parts. That is how the omega-betas are conceived. Women do not think of beta males this way entirely however. It is only in matters of sex. They have no such complaints for reliable door men and do not speak ill of them. They do not speak of them at all.
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True dat. Feminists are basically the female equivalent of nerds. Except that, unlike engineers, scientists, and other types, they do nothing for the species.
[heartiste: so what you’re saying is, feminists are totally worthless and sometimes lethally toxic appendixes dangling in the body of humanity? doctor, i believe a full excision is recommended.]
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Feminist scientists and engineers do exist. Feminism is not a career.
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Damn few are radical feminists. Most probably believe in basic feminism.
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Heartiste, I recently broke up with my gf. Have searched the hallowed halls of the Chateau archives and don’t know where you stand on this: get back in the game immediately, or rejuvenate my soul before venturing back out into single waters?
Every time I’m tempted to open a can of emergency rations game, I’m reminded of all the fun and amazing times I had with my girl, and I can’t bring myself to hit on someone new. Then again, leaving was necessary. I was starting to be treated as a beta schlub on a more and more frequent basis. Yelling and screaming when I’d forget to clean up something in the house, yelling and criticism when I wouldn’t buy her what she wanted at the store, or if it was not EXACTLY the brand and make she wanted.
My stop-loss order kicked in and I couldn’t take another second of it. Broke up that evening and let her know it was final and that I would never be contacting her again.
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Getting back in the game IS rejuvenating your soul. At least it was for me after I dumped a bad woman. You’ll probably have great success because you just don’t give a duck for any woman right now.
She sounds like the most entitled JAP on the planet. How long did you tolerate that crap?
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There is nothing wrong with yelling and screaming around the house – provided you are doing it.
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not even then no reason to yell
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Controlled rage is so much more frightening than yelling and screaming. Yelling and screaming indicates that she just won.
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You are right, Stingray. I was just using the original language. Controlled anger is best.
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True. It’s much more impressive.
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I’d suggest getting back in. Sorry to hear that you’re “reminded of all the fun” every time you’re tempted to hit on a woman, but getting all that out of your head is probably what you need.
Being reminded of somebody from the past is really bad and emotionally draining and it isn’t good for a person at all. The interactions with a new woman will help you focus on what you are doing in the present and help you get past the ex.
If you are 100% certain that it is over then you have to get past those memories and move on, and letting those memories hold you back isn’t helping. If the yelling and harping were that bad that you left then she was NOT treating you with the respect you deserve and it is HER loss, not yours. If you weren’t getting that respect then you did the right thing.
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Thank you, good advice.
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I don’t think in situations like this there is a one sized fits all right way, or even a best way.
Sometimes it feels best to take some alone time first. Sometimes it doesn’t.
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@ Fiance gremlin. I’ve been in a similar situation as yours and my advice would be to immediately get back into the game for several reasons. When my wife left me, I made the mistake of going the “rejuvenate my soul” route (plus, we were still legally married so I just felt like it was disrespectful to start dating again). The result? She cared nothing about our marriage and immediately went out and got into another ltr. Before the divorce was even final she was banging this dude, having him sleep over at her house, and bringing him around my kids.
It gave her a huge upper hand and threw me for a loop emotionally. There is a lot of nonsense advice out there about waiting until you are “ready” to start dating again after getting out of a ltr. The fact is, if you are like a lot of guys, who you will not really be able to get over her until you start getting involved with other girls, whether you feel like you are ready now or not. If you decide to wait until you are “ready,” a year from now you will still be right where you are now.
Another word of advice, if you are having trouble thinking of the “good times” you had with her, instead, just think of the bad times. Any woman who would treat you like that had no real long term potential and her behavior would have just gotten worse and worse.
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Nathan, thanks. I wasn’t married of course, but thanks for the advice. Going to get back into the game tonight. Going to jump back on the horse.
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go fuck some decent looking women. even a 6 at this point. just get your brain and penis thinking about some other piece of tail – not some harpy who can’t behave.
fact is you cannot control the past. you can either let it control your future, or you can control your future by exercising your will. either the harpy can dictate your future, or you can.
the more you stall, or wait, or flounder in the good times of the past… the more you let your past control your future. thinking fondly of past times is fine. but it’s the past, and a rose-colored memory of what ended up being a bad time for you. true – you can’t pretend the good times did not happen (you aren’t a robot) – but to deny yourself the future pleasures you deserve, because of a misplaced attachment to a negative woman is dumb.
the only caveat – hopefully you have learned. if 1 woman treated you like a spineless beta, and you let it happen, be aware that it’s possible for your current mental programming to “go down that path”. nip that shit in the bud and if a women does it again, drop her. good luck.
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It takes time. Those internal dialogues you are having everytime you think about hitting on a girl are necessary. Breakups suck and remembering and letting go of the past is part of the process.
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Chicks aren’t disrespectful to guys unless they don’t respect them. Think back, remove you’re emotions from the situation and I think you’ll find that you were probably a little bitch. Not trying to be mean, just saying. If you called her on her shit the first time it wouldn’t have gotten it of hand. And now you need advice from the internet to know if the girly side of you is emotionally ready? Give me a break. Lead God dammit! Lead!
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@Finance Gremlin….had the same issue…broke up…since then…ex gf has been great to chat with. We get along great though we don’t bang.
On the other hand, I’ve been banging all the girls I gamed while we were going out.
There are two things….one, never stop gaming. The second if you feel like beta shlub or are treated like one….as has been written here…”Stop, drop and roll away”.
You’ll be amazed at how your ex gf gets into line…
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No surprise. It is quite frustrating navigating women without red-pill knowledge. Feeling as though you have no control is a surefire path to misery, lowered-immunity, etc… such as in the experiments with rats and electric floors….
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please read this post from an insightful commenter over at Rational Male. It’s beautiful especially the last paragraph:
feral1404
May 30th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Everyone should go back to their old copy of Robert Ringer’s ‘Winning Through Intimidation’ for some simple remedies to hypergamy. No, your framed response to shit tests doesn’t have to be putting your fist through dry-wall to get her attention (although a display of controlled anger definitely brings out the submissive little girl when done properly… AND will get her abundantly wet). But Ringer’s business postulation of not even taking the time to address the obstacle in front of you (shit tests) – but leaping directly to where you want to be in the situation (giving commands and expecting prompt responses) – is exactly analogous to an alpha’s non-response.
When my current LTR started I made a conscious effort (I was still red-pilling and ‘faking it to make it’ at that point) that every time she took a feminist stance (I’m converting her), to say “Aw, that’s so cute when you act feminist” as I would to a child. A few times I even horseplayed and slapped her on the ass, “No feminism in this apartment, bad girl!” At first it infuriated her, shell-shocked (DC girl, whaddya expect), but now she knows when she tries to push the envelope and take charge she’ll get slapped down (figuratively – or on the ass, literally). I’ve always read about it but am now actually seeing it. Hypergamy demands that a woman push the relationship and try to take charge, then reflexively dump the chump when he abdicates the lead. The beta boys with their “Yes Dear” have cut their own nuts off, given her the lead and either don’t know it or know it but are so afraid to lose her they won’t do anything about it. Although they live miserably and probably will lose her to the biker who doesn’t treat her like a pedestalled princess.
So it’s very simple… never abdicate. She doesn’t like it, there’s the door. Rule 16, ‘never be afraid to lose her.’
Treat her as replacable and she won’t want to be replaced. There’s the great irony in all of this.
I agree with Samuel Soloman above. When I began the relationship operating from the ‘king of the throne frame,’ it didn’t take her long to get with the program. But note this, and here’s where I think guys get abusive and douchbaggy – I don’t abuse the privelege of running my house by making her do things for me… I just let her know that my decision is what we’re going with, right or wrong, and I see it through without hesitation. She likes that, she wants that, and now I’m seeing that she needs that, even if she’ll never say it.
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Timely post as i head out to …..Toronto for a spell.
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I think this guy deserves a post pretty alpha asian guy
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Pardons for double posting.
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As much as I would like to believe this study and agree with its conclusions, it looks like one of those sociology studies designed to reach the conclusion desired by the researchers. I mean, how does one measure “Benevolent Sexism.” What is that, anyway? What is “sexism” even?
Generally, I think well-adapted and strong men do not put up with BS from women, and women love them for that. I am skeptical, however, that this can be tested and scientifically verified with much accuracy.
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“it looks like one of those sociology studies designed to reach the conclusion desired by the researchers”
Redundant.
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I did not mean to imply in my post that I disagree with the conclusions of the study. In fact, I agree with them.
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I guess if sexist = not competing with your woman to see who is better at cooking or household chores then yea i guess it is good.
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“I’ve literally shit on a girl lol.”
I think there’s a dichotomy. Yes, some misogynists are bitter losers. But alpha males tend to be the most sexist of all. I’ve seen the utter depravity of women who’ve had all their attraction mechanisms triggered. I’m sure others have seen worse (see quote above). Once you’ve experienced it, it’s hard to hold the fairer sex in high regard.
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Seems to go well with my experiences. We’va had a few sexists in school, and usually they are funny guys. Nobody would hate them, at least not to my knowledge. And they aren’t bitter losers. I’m not even sure bitter loser sexists that are out there would remain so if a “unicorn” girl (hot, sane and sweet) was all over them. Sexism is definitely not reserved for the losers.
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who is brains reserved for? go check your fucking spam folder once in a while and unleash my posts.
congrats onthe baby, btw
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Whoa, what baby? Also, I checked it today and was blind enough not to see anything in the folder. Will see if there is a way to make a poster permanently impossible to throw in spam. It’s annoying it keeps doing that.
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misogynists does not equal not wanting to compete with your woman to see who can be the better suzie homemaker
god these labels are just all completely fucked up
maybe with all these labels they just trying to make an actual man seem like a badboy to woman and therefore sexy
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Also, it seems sexism today can be as innocent as pointing out gender differences. It’s such a dirty word.
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Also, it seems sexism today can be as innocent as pointing out gender differences. It’s such a dirty word.
Of course. The whole point of progressivism is that it’s immoral for factors you don’t have complete control over to be necessarily relevant to your life.
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I’ve found that the best way to be interesting to the hottest young women is to start talking about their sexual experience level.
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If you arent being called sexist on a regular basis by most/all the women in your life then you are doing it wrong.
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Yes, I have a reputation as the family chauvinist. There is no point, anyway, in trying to hide your real opinions. They come out in a hundred ways. Even something as basic as word choice will give you away.
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In my familly, every man is sexist, so you are considered average in our circle. IMO i think that even if you are careful enough to not anything obviously sexist. Your behavior betray you. I call It stealth sexism. If someone asked for my opinion, I’ll tell him/her what I think Without a hint of apology.
It’s better to say it in a “matter of fact” way, Am I wrong?
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It is best to just state your opinions bluntly. You might as well give them something solid to get offended about. And don’t start backing down. That only enrages them more.
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I don’t know if it enrages them more, but it definitely emboldens them more.
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“She’ll appreciate your refreshing boldness*, or she’ll become indignant. If the latter, you’ll know it’s safe to stiff her with the check. Or just stiff her.”
Or just respond: you’re one of those feminists, then? Hairy legs, unshaved armpits…?
Her: no no no, I…
Indignation is just an additional test to see whether you are the man she hopes you are or whether you just managed to summon the courage to finally try out the line you’ve been regurgitating in your head ever since some alpha used it on your soulmate years ago.
Stiffing a hot girl because she disagrees with you is retarded. Leave that to the MGTOW-types who prefer principles over pussy. You won’t teach her a lesson, she’ll just feel glad that the bitter loser you turned out to be walked away.
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Not from my experience. I had this exchange with a hot feminist chick while in college (she made it past the audition stage of America’s Next Top Model). We were sitting around drinking and she started talking about how it was hard for her to do some particular activity and had no idea why. To which I replied “Because you’re a woman”. She glared at me with this ‘I’m not amused’ look and then I hit her with the Anchorman quote “Your brain is only a third the size of mine. It’s science”. And then she said “You’re lucky I love you”. Long story short, I fucked her.
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Heh, rethink the word “stiffing” there and you’ve got it.
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lol, don’t stiff it in
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Cheerful misogyny is the phrase I use. Same thing.
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Are you happy because you’re sexist or are you sexist because you’re happy?
This, and many other useless questions, are pondered by unhappy people. Enjoy.
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passive aggressive much? that’s a very faggy and bitchy attitude.
How does unhappy people contemplate and conceptualize happiness? It seems to me knowing yourself and knowing nature and accepting it gives away that one is happy with and accepts things as they are which in itself leads to more happiness and harmony and tranquility..
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I’m deep into dog psychology right now, because I have a dog, and I watch dog shows, and read dog books etc… So I’m not finished yet with my parallels between dogs and women.
This time, I just wanna say that it doesn’t make sense to be spiteful or angry against women because of hypergamy, digging the alpha male, treating weaker men like shit etc…
Because it’s the same with dogs. When I first had a dog, I used to treat him like a buddy… Then he started to act weird. It could’ve gotten a lot worse if I didn’t start doing some research.
When I realized that dogs are not the angelic creatures that I imagined, that they’re not my equals, and that they’re just… dogs, it was a little bit frustrating. But did I get angry? hell no.
It’s a little bit more difficult to let it slide with women because having an epiphany hits a deeper spot, but you get my drift.
I started to like my dog being a dog if I gave him what he wanted. And I even started to like all dogs because now I know what they want.
That’s what you get being born a male. You won’t get a soulmate, no one is gonna empathize with your deep fears and insecurities. You just handle your own shit, and let your masculine essence shine because others need it. Then you’re in a position to create your own world around you (women, dogs, kids, whatever…) of which you are the leader and sole responsible, just like the 20% male readers of this blog.
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That’s what you get being born a male. You won’t get a soulmate, no one is gonna empathize with your deep fears and insecurities. You just handle your own shit, and let your masculine essence shine because others need it.
Words that should be chiseled above the doors of every school. Well-done.
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I, too, would like to see a tighter definition of the terms “sexist” and “benevolent sexism.” Do they refer to simply acknowledging (against current feminist dogma) that women and men are biologically and psychologically different? Because I consider myself a feminist and concede that point–as well as most of the ones Heartiste makes here–freely. We are man and woman. It wasn’t feminist doctrine that made us equal; it was Sam Colt. It seems that acknowledging the realities of nature could potentially make both men and women happier, if they were able to use that information to their own individual advantages.
Or are they referring to the belief that women are childlike, lesser people who should not be allowed to vote, own property, choose their own mates and control their fertility? Because I doubt that would make most women happy.
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You’ve zeroed in on the problem, though no one here will answer it seriously. The “benevolent sexist” framework, consistent with the overall CH oeuvre, is that it is natural/proper/correct/productive/benevolent/etc. for men interacting with women, in all parts of life, to assume the attitude that “I’ll be in charge here, for no reason other than that I’m male and you’re not”. The CH claim, which can be tested empirically, is that men assuming this attitude will, overall (ie neglecting some isolated exceptions), make both men and women happier.
We must take the empirical evidence for what it is. But, once you aim your vehicle down the road of “in any M/F pair, the man should be in charge by default” then I don’t see that there are any stoplights, or even speed bumps, before you reach rescinding full citizenship for women. Very few of the “happy sexists”, male or female, ever consider/visualize the natural endpoint of what they endorse at the beginning, and so they will sleep more soundly than the more thoughtful types like you.
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Sorry, I don’t see this at all. It is perfectly possible to be dominant with an individual woman, and be happy as a couple, without its ending up in some massive societal disenfranchisement of women.
Your argument goes beyond being a slippery slope argument into icy downhill slalom country.
I tend to be fairly dominant in my marriage, but my wife votes, and I don’t have a problem with that. We both enjoy my giving her the occasional spanking, as she averred this morning, but she still goes off to work.
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@David,
Same here – my wife positively enjoys getting her ass reddened – usually as foreplay.
Once a guy sets up the proper roles and responsibilities for the relationship, then both parties are much happier. Once a gf/wife sees you are serious about enforcing these roles and responsibilities, then she’s free to live a more fulfilling life, rather than have to worry about such organizational things. So each plays to their relative strengths, and decision making is streamlined and more effective.
@Gen,
No girl really likes to have to manage the relationship for the guy she’s with. If this responsibility is forced on her, she’ll become surly and sexually unresponsive in short order.
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We have been married 26 years. One of the first things she wanted sexually, even before we were engaged, was an OTK spanking. She still likes it occasionally. I have probably given her about 100 over the years.
Mostly it has been foreplay, and it makes her very wet. Sometimes there might have been an element of punishment.
Just my hand usually. Once or twice a hairbrush.
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Ah, I should be clearer here. Any particular couple who settle out on a “Me Tarzan/You Jane” arrangement to mutual satisfaction is fine, and not necessarily sexist per se. The important question is, how should a man behave toward women in general, including the many who are not his SO of the moment? The CH cosmology, as I understand it, is that the generic man on the street should assume a sexist, male-superior attitude with all women by default, not just with wives or gf’s; in fact, it’s the assumption of that attitude full-time that will greatly increase, or even be a necessary ingredient for, his chances to ever get a wife/gf in the first place. YMMV.
The important behavior is not being benevolently sexist toward one woman in particular who enjoys it; it’s whether it is, in fact, benevolent for all men to be sexist toward all women by default.
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I am not sure I would say we have a Me Tarzan/You Jane dynamic. I think my wife was attracted to my patriarchal vibe, and we have what I would call a traditional marriage with some modern elements.
I am probably a bit more “sadistic” than the average man, but I certainly have my limits. My wife, likewise, on the masochistic spectrum.
I am generally polite to women in public. I make a point of being nice to shopgirls, for example. On the other hand, if a woman interferes in my family concerns, it tends to make me see red. And I have a tendency to correct my wife in company, if I feel she is out of line.
Some women on the Internet seem to be asking to be talked down to, and I sometimes fall into that temptation. But in general, I treat women as equals, although I do notice they are women.
I am not in the marriage market, so I am not interested in “gaming” women in general. That said, I have once or twice, almost by accident, been a bit curt with women in public, and I have gotten some surprisingly good reactions. If you act like a dominant male, you will get submissive reactions. I sort of look the part too, although I am not as formidable as I look really.
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There’s a huge difference between being dominant in the bedroom and being dominant in every single interaction you have with a woman. Men can be one, the other, both or neither–and be happy. Some of the most powerful men in the world enjoy the attentions of dominatrixes.
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True. I’ve always suspected subs are actually more successful because success means kissing up to a long line of superiors.
Personally, I’m not in favor of denying women the vote or anything like that–I’m risk-averse enough to want a bigger safety net, and masculine aggressiveness can get me killed in a war if there’s a draft because some guys feel we have to look macho in front of the world. But acting like a sexist seems, according to the commenters here (and to some degree in my experience), to help a man get laid. Whether it works as national policy is another question.
Nobody says you have to be consistent in all aspects of your life. Heck, you wouldn’t approach a date the way you approach a math problem, so why approach politics the way you approach mating?
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Oh, acting like a sexist will indeed get you laid, which will probably make you AND the woman in question happy, so in that sense, the post’s premise is arguably true.
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It’s more than arguably true, it is true.
But you have to act like a sexist in certain nonchalant, amused mastery ways, rather than at the worst bitter ones, and have to have other alpha qualities too. Acting causally sexist just helps, rather than hurts.
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Great comment, SFG. My feelings exactly. National policy should be fair to everybody, but personal interactions are better when we men got some swag.
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Actually, Jason, I wouldn’t even go that far. Women have shown themselves to be quite willing to advocate for their corporate interests as women through things like domestic violence laws that presume male guilt–there is no harm in men doing the same.
However, countries that completely disenfranchise women seem to be regrettable third-world places. So evidently too much macho can backfire on the national stage.
This blog is about how to get laid, not run the economy 😉
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This blog is about how to get laid but it’s also about gender realism and to an extent racial realism.
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RDaughter–
That’s often said by feminists but little demonstrated. As well there are never any statistics much less sourced credible ones. I have little doubt that there a a few powerful men who’ve had that predilection but I’d serious doubt there an any or anyway more than an historical tiny handful of the most powerful men in the world who do.
If there were statistics they’d probably be lies as so much of feminist ones are. E.g. the patently false lie that only 2% of rape allegations are false, stemming from Susan Brownmiller’s pulling that number out of the air way back in 1975 and it being endless echo chambered by feminists since. Plus the lie that one in four or five college women will have been raped or it’s sometimes said suffered sexual assault or attempted assault by the time they graduated. That’s based on a deeply flawed and utterly dishonest bit of advocacy “research” that had an utterly selection biased set of answering subjects, who were asked obviously intentionally misleading questions, which allowed subjects to answer yes to something the feminist “researchers” scored as rape when they only had buyers remorse the next day or week. It scored as rape lots of things such as having sex after being intoxicated at all as rape, which are neither legally that nor was that considered rape by those answering the questionare, since they were also asked directly if they’d ever been raped while in college.
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I know about the fake rape surveys.
Given the number of high-powered women who wanted to be dominated that I’ve met, however, I wouldn’t be too surprised if a couple of high-powered men did too.
Dominatrices are expensive, so of course only rich guys can pay for that. How many average Joes want their girlfriends to spank them, I have no idea.
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I tend to be mildly dominant with most women. It’s my nature.
I think something at least in that direction should be the national cultural ethos, rather than the feminist, lean over backwards to proclaim women’s equality and subtle superiority, or to claim that women can do everything men can do, only better. Which is absurd.
What of importance have women invented, or discovered, including since the beginning of second wave feminism, whose first stirrings were in the 50s, and which became a full on mass movement in the 1960s? A few things but the ratio is incredibly lopsided. The vast majority of intellectual and creative brilliance is male and always has been. Yeah the average IQ of the sexes is almost equal, but the percentage of men with IQ’s above 130 is much higher and above 145 is vastly higher. Same thing pertains in creativity.
A great deal of the success of women in the workforce at least up to certain levels is due to affirmative action, soft quotas of various types, window dressing, disparate impact rules, and so on, particularly in government and foundations but also in large corps.
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Yep. There’s lots more “outlier” men; women are more top of the bell curve.
But I’d argue that women are succeeding in today’s modern society faster for a different reason: they’re just better equipped, biologically, to multitask and build consensus inside large organizations. Plus more mom-friendly policies like maternity leave encourage them to stay safely within big company jobs.
Out here in self-employed Form 1099 land, Entrepreneurville, where I and presumably many other readers of this blog work … it’s lots more men. Which fits our individuality.
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Re Sam Colt, yeah guns make men and women potentially equal in a fight, but not anywhere near that on average in reality. Men are much more likely to have a gun, to enjoy practicing how to use it accurately and effectively, and so on.
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Funny that the first school yard insult even mature women will resort too is “I bet he’s just got a little dick” whenever they disagree with any guy talking about women in any critical fashion.
Actually I think women are very concerned with the size of a guy’s penis. They may avoid public admissions of it when asked, yet privately, amongst themselves, they’ll shamelessly go into detail about their current men’s cocks. And they’re not even all that secretive about it when they’re in a group setting.
In fact, this is really hypergamy in action. The public message to men is “it’s what he does with it that’s important” or the shaming tactic “men are so preoccupied with their dicks, women don’t want a huge cock, it hurts, blah, blah,..” but the private message amongst the sisterhood is the polar opposite.
I may have to do a post about this.
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– Their man having a large cock raises their own status among their friends.
– Every woman knows that one of the easiest ways to hurt a man is to criticize his cock. I think we learn in the first 6 months of life.
So, yeah. Hypergamy. We use if to raise our own status and lower yours. I suppose when one is weaker physically, one must resort to more catty tactics.
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Most learn in the first six minutes when the bitch that begot them decides to cut them.
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It’s just women being women. I have a big dick, at least bigger than average, and one of my exes made up stories about how small my dick was after we broke up.
I knew it when I slept with one of her friends.
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Sleeping with her friends is the best revenge.
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Best I ever had was about four inches long. Make of that what you will.
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I have an at least average erection, but my wife used to tease me anyway. I have found that since I started getting her to give me oral as foreplay, and she has had trouble not gagging, the jokes have died away completely.
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“Sexism with a smirk”
Yes, that’s it.
My current GF reacts quite vivaciously when I make these remarks.
You should come out here, to Newport Beach.
We’ve got quite a scene going along these lines.
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Everyone normal knows feminism is a joke — an emperor has no clothes situation. So when you treat it like the joke it is, you get spontaneous and true reactions.
When you treat it with official seriousness, you get defensive reaction and suspicion. Like, who is this weirdo parroting the state-sanctioned bullshit? There are no informers here. Does he think I’m an idiot? Why is he treating me like a dude? I want to be reminded I’m a woman, not a comrade.
This is an obsolescing phenomenon now, though. The generation coming up is deeply unimpressed by feminist contortions, no matter what shrill lies their moms tell them. It’s only the old ladies who get cranky, and much of that can be chalked up to pre-menopausal panic anyway. When the propaganda is not constant and heavy like it was in the latter half of the 20th century, life grows up through the asphalt again.
Who is the youngest feminist you know?
Matt
[heartiste: i am glad to be present in this wonderful epoch to drive the stake deep into the undying feminist husk. salt the feminist ego after it’s been flayed. it’s the only way to be sure it will never rise again.]
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You two are far too optimistic.
True, you are unlikely to find many young people who self-identify as feminists. While the word “feminism” has largely retreated to the realm of aging hags and bull dykes, the residue of grrrl power is embedded deep to the point of being the default mode of thought. Overt feminism didn’t retreat, they won and absorbed themselves into culture.
It is quite insidious really. White-knighting and deferment to women takes many forms. Just take a look at Reddit, a very popular website populated by a very young demographic. To even toy with the idea that the sexes are inherently different, especially in terms of mental faculty, is tantamount to treason to the SWPL-esque crowd.
Things seem hopefully in these parts, but the red-pill-plane is but a drop of water in the ocean.
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Dan–
Unfortunately I think you’re right.
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I was at a wedding last month in which the maid-of-honor, holding a microphone, publicly gave this advice to the groom:
“If you’re right about something, don’t speak. If you’re wrong, immediately apologize.”
I almost gagged. That’s a recipe for marital disaster, for loss of mutual respect, and I told the groom so afterwards. The other women standing in the circle didn’t disagree with me, I was glad to see.
Still, despite the fact that feminism is now a dirty word among younger women, it has embedded beta-reflexes into male conditioning.
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That and worse has been the media feminist “light” message to newly minted husbands since the 1970’s in sitcoms, romcoms, etc. Men are taught to “ye dear” their wives all the time, do what she wants, get her what she wants, apologize if she get’s mad even when you’re right and she’s being unreasonable, and so on. Yes it’s generative of ever more beta male behavior and yes while American women think they want with their forebrain having absorbed the same feminist messages, it progressively turns off their hindbrain attraction and respect for their husbands. And often leads to divorce.
Athol Kay is very good on this, and offers advice to readers who email to him on his blog in a person specific way. He’s really good at it. He’s also written an ebook, Married Man Sex Life, that has sold well enough for him to have quite his nursing job, to work on later editions of his book and his blog full time.
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However, it’s also become so ingrained in their thinking that even if they reject it intellectually, they live and breathe it daily.
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You’re fucking retarded if you think feminism is a joke. You only have to look at the last 50 years of western society.
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You guys are some seriously negative nellies. I didn’t say feminism was a “joke” to imply it was anything short of a cultural disaster. I said its premises are unofficially regarded as a joke even if we are (momentarily) forced to keep up official appearances — at weddings, on Reddit, in the classroom, in public. Come on, you seriously don’t have experience with this phenomenon in loose, private conversations among men and women? Sure there is some shock, some who get the vapors, some who want to fight. But most — especially young women — are relieved to drop the pretenses.
Flattery of the aging queen is still the smart bet for your typical shmo, yes, but that arrangement is moribund. No kidding very few people challenge the regime out in the open. Most serfs are built to “go along to get along.” Who cares how much or how well people toe the prescribed line? Many wept with almost psychotic animation at the death of Kim Jong Il, too.
When tyrannies collapse, they collapse quickly. Once the paper tiger’s vulnerabilities are made plain, it is torn to shreds. Feminism’s impotence hasn’t been fully exposed yet, but it is beginning to be, one dark relationship at a time. We aggregate our experiences in clearinghouses like this forum, and before you know it, the queen is ass-up under the guillotine.
Will it take a year, a decade, a generation? Depends on how efficiently we deliver the samizdat to young men now being fitted for their beta-jackets. They will comprise the critical mass one way or another. For old betas rising out of their chumpdom, it’s too late to depend on them. Age brings experience, not energy, and their experience is corrupted by the despair you fellows exhibit.
You look at the heaps of shit bequeathed us by yesterday’s cows and think stinky septic field. We look at the same milieu of manure and think fertile pasture waiting to be seeded. And we have the energy to plow.
Matt
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Easily one of the best ways to soulkill a fatty.
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Well, it’s nice to see science beginning to recognize the painfully obvious. Only took ’em, what, 40 FRIGGIN’ YEARS?
I remember arguing with this woman 30 years ago. My (extremely beta) friend was with me, watching. He couldn’t believe that I used my line “You’re far too intelligent to believe in women’s lib!” on her. His jaw hit the floor when I got up, took her hand, and we went upstairs to my hotel room to bang. To this day, despite all my “pep-talks”, he still mentions how I pulled off this bang, despite arguing with her. (He doesn’t get that it was BECAUSE I was “arguing” with her -not arguing- just not backing down and refusing to apologize for being male). I’ll never forget her remark to me once we got down to business:” I’m only a lesbian from the neck up!” Priceless.
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When I said the same on Spearhead and ferdi’s over the past three years, you screeched at me in loud denial.
I’m not sure you’re a proper disciple.
It looks like Jesus even had a rejection bin.
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To the best of my recollection, I’ve never posted on Spearhead, and I don’t know what ferdi’s is ( but I’d like to know so I can check it out). Could you post a link to “my” comments? I think there must be someone else with the same handle……
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Sure.
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“Sexism with a smirk”
Too true. That’s the way.
They love it.
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“you believe men and women are psychologically different and respond to stimuli in different ways, and that women are the weaker sex deserving of male protection”
It is better to *know* this than to believe it.
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Can you believe this? Woman marries herself?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/25/nadine-schweigert-woman-marries-herself_n_1546024.html
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Something Tells me she very self centered? It’s gonna be a hoot when she has to divorce herself cuz herself found someone else,lulzlulzlulz bitches be crazy.
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“Benevolent Sexism”, very subtle way to get it by the academic censors.
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My response to the male-chauvinist-pig title has always been; “Oink oink”. And if someone says I’m sexist – I say “Damn straight! I don’t date guys so if you are a female and only date guys, you’re sexist too, and if you say you don’t you’re a liar. So what is it? Are you sexist, or a liar?” I get so tired of this tripe from women who have no concept of the facts of life – they think all they need is a cell phone to call men for help, and they can survive without men. Wrong – you’re always screaming for help in everything you do – when was the last time you changed your own tire? Fixed the lawn mower? Cut down that tree with a chain-saw? Heck, actually MADE anything – other than maybe dinner? If you’ve called someone and a man has come over to do it – you’re sexist too, you are just are a liar to boot since you don’t admit it. I admit it…
Of course, that’s why I run my own company and get paid the big bucks when I go to a customer – they often need to hear the truth. Of course it’s usually all men in the room since the women associated with the project are there to fill quotas and look pretty – but it’s the men who get things done. That is the way it has always been, and will always be – anyone who says differently is selling something – or lying… And I wouldn’t have it any other way…
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Traditionally men have been too polite to point this out. But these days it bears a lot of repetition. Women create, invent and maintain effectively nothing.
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Not totally disagreeing with you, Doc, but I’ve known lots of strong women, and I even married one. I wouldn’t characterize them as useless at all.
Perhaps the women who you choose to be in your circles are merely decorative, and the benevolent paternalistic attitude is definitely appropriate for relationships with them. But my mother-in-law, for example, actually DOES yardwork with a chainsaw, and she has a fairly powerful job as well. My own mother is fierce as hell.
Again, I’m not disagreeing with your worldview, but it’s only part of the overall picture. We humans are a remarkably diverse lot.
(No selling or lying either.)
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Do you have any skills besides academic ones? Does your wife know how to change oil or just be bossy?
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Yep, I got a few — helped build a retaining wall last summer — but since most of my hours are spent typing, that’s my biggest one (doing 90 words a minute IS a developed skill too, don’t forget). I’m planning to stain and finish a bookshelf this month. Looking forward to having enough space to pursue real carpentry someday. Does that change your impression at all?
The wife’s huge skill is in cooking. She’s an absolute beast in the kitchen and looks great doing it. Very rare for American women under thirty. I’m lucky.
I’m ignoring the sniperish asshole commenting below, since he doesn’t argue facts.
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Hell, you don’t even know how to ignore properly. Your snark sounds exactly like the cuntspeak of a woman when she “ignores”.
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Countdown 3… 2… 1… ’til the NAWALT retort comes.
Lawdy, some folks are just soooooo predictable.
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Funny how the shallowest of things, so called, are necessary for life. Taking a wiz is more than Chaucer, and a pork sandwich in a starving country is more than a military parade. You can have deep and meaningful conversations with attractive, naked women; and you should, but only one of these is strictly necessary.
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It’s a regular trope of
feministsnonwhites and their useful idiot SWPL camp followers thatmale sexistswhites who dare question the PC order of things are bitter, beta male losers.Funny that the first school yard insult
even mature womennonwhites and their useful idiot SWPL camp followers will resort too is “I bet he’s just got a little dick” whenever they disagree with anyguywhite talking aboutwomenthem in any critical fashion.Had to say it. 😉
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Very true.
White Knighting comes in many, many forms
and champions “The Oppressed”
whenever Self-Righteousness is called for.
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There’s a very positive selection bias and feedback loop working here: the first study shows that women who are more benevolently sexist are happier.
The second study shows that women who are benevolently sexist respond better to aggressive/direct game.
Ergo, aggressive and/or direct game is a way to lead women to self-select for both benevolent sexism and happiness. The latter is more important. As it’s been said, who wants to be with a grump?
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Painfully hilarious sign I saw hanging in front of a canyon bungalow during a recent hike here in Los Angeles:
I AM MORE THAN WOMAN. I AM SPIRIT.
My theory: It’s an old catlady with sandpaper genitals. She’s spent a lifetime alienating what she calls “shitty men” (beta guys). She’s sabotaged her chances at the one alpha she ever met, in 1971. She thinks about him constantly.
To compensate, she’s developed a sense of grandiosity so powerful that she believes she has actually transcended LIFE ITSELF.
I should’ve knocked on her door. Just to verify.
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California’s got the most of them, I swear they got a host of them… FLAKES! Gotta love Zappa.
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RIP Zap. He had his finger on the pulse of wacky.
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Its almost like we evolved the way we did for some determinable reason.
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“Now don’t get the wrong idea; alpha males are breathtakingly sexist, but they aren’t spiteful about it, nor do they allow their cynicism to ruin a good time. They love women as women, not as substitute men, and if that imbues them with an air of condescending paternalism, then so be it. Chicks dig that, too.”
Seems there’s two kinds of sexist: those who spitefully dislike women, and those who are indifferent or dismissive.
The uncaring sexist. It’s gold.
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With the whole door-opening thing (and other gripes), my simple retort is, “whatever, your baggage, not mine!”
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Any guy will slam the door if a girl is athletic and/or tall as well. These qualities aren’t feminine at all. Men like petite, slim women, not leggy models
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Tall and leggy can be good. I have screwed a leggy woman for 25 years. I can’t imagine fucking a girl with stumpy little legs. It would be like banging a hobbit-wife.
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hapiness and strength
http://wizardcorpse.com/punch-with-your-stronger-arm-exploit-your-strengths/
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[…] the sacred duties of the sexes.Basically you must do what ever you are good at and what makes you happy. Never listen to other people not even to your parents if they want to put you in a career that you […]
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This is genius! So spot on, see it happening in pubs all the time. The guy who ribs the women, makes fun of em lightheartedly. I look at em in think ffs if I did that they’d slap me across the head! Im like supergamma/omega loser though, they can probably smell it on me. Basically given up on women, all porn and perv.
What I love about these blogs is at least your pointing out the truth about these situations. In the end it comes down to me to raise my game, but if I dont I should just say fuck it and not beat myself up over it.
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appropriate for this thread:
http://www.yourtango.com/2012155642/according-science-muscular-men-are-sexist-bad-boyfriends
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