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Beta Of The Month: When You Can’t Hide It

January 9, 2013 by CH

You’ve got to have a strong stomach to make it through this edition of BOTM. This segment will hit a lot of buttons, as well it should. In a Slate “Dear Prudence” mailbag, a woman writes for advice from Prudie (Emily Yoffe) on how to break the news of her cheating whoreishness to her kids and neighbors.

Q. Where Do I Tell My Son His Sister Came From?: A few years ago I cheated on my husband, got pregnant, and decided to keep the child. Because my husband and I had a 2-year-old son together we decided that we could keep our marriage together for his sake. The thing that really complicates things is that my husband, son, and I are white, while my lover was black, and so my daughter is mixed race. Naturally my son has begun questioning why his sister looks so different from the rest of us, and my mother-in-law took it upon herself to tell him she was adopted. I’m at a loss for what to do. For now my husband has told MIL that the topic is verboten, but we haven’t decided if we should correct her error. Until now I’ve been happy to just let people assume what they want about where my children’s origins are, but now that a story is getting around, I’m not sure what to say or how to handle it.

We’re a long ways from Normal Rockwell’s America.

As I’m sure you’ve noticed, the husband surrendered to his wife’s crazy-eyed demands shrunk from risking the certainty of a divorce industrial complex ass-ramming politely discussed and agreed with his wife to keep the marriage going “for the sake of the children”.

Gotta love those children — the perfect leverage for whores and the state to use against wronged men.

Femcunt: “How can you POSSIBLY think of leaving your wife and hurting your children just because she had an unfortunate and fleeting five-year dalliance with an underprivileged but incredibly confident and masculine black man who also happens to be a doctor?”

Beta Herb: “But, I thought single moms are a light unto the world, and their children are successful in every way?”

Femcunt: “Oh, that’s rich. Using white male logic on me. Check your privilege, herbling!”

Beta Herb: “I’m so sorry. Please don’t yell at me. I’m a nice guy.”

Femcunt: “Nice guys are really jerks! You would know that if you weren’t such a jerk.”

Beta Herb: “Should I just off myself?”

Femcunt: “There’s an idea.”

Please, did you expect a feminist to comprehend dual mate strategy? Or to dabble in rationality?

Is this hubby a beta for staying with his wife when it’s so obvious to anyone with eyes that the mocha child in tow is living proof the whore wife cuckolded him in the arms of a five-point buck? Yes, he is. There’s simply no way a man can retain the heft of his balls — whatever he’s carrying — or any shred of honor, sticking by the side of an unfaithful wife who so ostentatiously gelded him, a mixed-race living reminder of his emasculation total yapping at his heels. There are just some indignities a man should not ever tolerate, especially when alternatives exist, such as beating a middle-of-the-night escape to another country to avoid punitive extractive alimony and child-support payments.

But the ideal course of action for the grievously insulted beta provider hubby presumes a somewhat sane world envelops him, and will consider his case fairly. Unfortunately, thanks to the relentless moronic march of feminists and equalist filth, and their lethal infection of the media/entertainment/academia/bureacracy complexes which constitute the juggernaut known as the Western Cathedral, we are far from living in a sane world. Instead of receiving recompense from his ex-wife for cuckolding him, and full custody of his one biological child, plus the sympathy and support of his community and the state, he would likely receive for his trouble of separating himself from the bitch who metaphorically shit in his face an extorted, back-breaking retirement plan paid in full to her, plus two days per month visitation rights. And prison rape for any failure to comply with his dispossession.

Given this morbid reality, how fitting is it for us to label such a man a hopeless beta? Isn’t he just as much a victim of his circumstance and the world which is cruelly indifferent to him as he is of his own weak character? I’m loathe to come down too hard on this guy, who probably decided it was better to minimize the fallout from a really shitty situation than to seek the justice that was rightfully his from the insult of his wife’s awesome betrayal.

However, in the final analysis, he earns his BOTM nomination. The reason why is found in the wife’s decision to keep the bastard. She would not have entertained keeping the mixed-race issue if she had a modicum of respect for her husband. Instead, it is likely he is a beta male in his heart whom she despised, and that made the decision easy for her. What use is appeasing a husband you hardly respect, let alone desire or admire? Why care for the soul-ripping consequences your detestable actions will have on a husband who no longer, if he ever did, inspires your adherence to a moral calculus via the encouragement of wonderful twat tingles? She wanted this kid born, wanted this gaudy tri-hued mockery of her marriage to shoot out of her festering womb, because it was the kid of another man. A better man.

The hubby chump doesn’t even have the luxury of hiding his shame behind ego sparing lies. A white kid could plausibly be passed off as his. But a pint-sized frappuccino is a glossy mag ad situating his disgrace front and center for the entertainment of the studio audience of his life.

And every day, every goddamned minute of every day, this pitiful lackey, chained by law and habit and feebleness to the golem of his wife’s black soul, will suffer his humiliation anew. There will be no escape from the breaking wheel that cracks the bones and tears the sinew of his self-worth. No refuge from the material proof of his wife’s love for another man. No competing nightmare visceral enough to block out the constantly birthing image of his wife’s cunt stretching and ululating for another man’s dick, and her womb happily germinating the prize of another man’s seed. A prize made all the more demeaning by the context of the times, where an abortion clinic to solve untidy problems like this one exist on every street corner, and condoms are handed out like candy. This woman made her choice WHEN SO MANY OTHER CHOICES WERE READILY AVAILABLE that would have partly bandaged the immortal wound she knifed into her husband’s pride.

His world is the world of slaves. A spiked heel kicking in his nuts, forever.

What can be salvaged from this woeful cataclysm? Oh yes, there is something.

A word about the children. Sometimes, the children must suffer to right a horrible wrong. To rectify an impossible evil. And the world must make it known who, in actuality, is the cause of their suffering. Every day, the children must know it was Mommy, not Daddy, who royally fucked their lives.

For shits and giggles, I’ll post Emily Yoffe’s reply:

A: Despite continuing weekly evidence to the contrary, I will continue to believe that the vast majority of men who think they are the biological fathers of their children really did provide the sperm. If you get impregnated by a lover of another race, what you say to your children about this is something that needed to be discussed openly with your husband, preferably before the baby was born. Making the utterly obvious verboten is not a good strategy for anyone. I think what you need for your immediate family is a dose of the truth. But, for your children, it needs to be age appropriate. Since your daughter was born a few years ago, your son is old enough to know the basics of reproduction. He needs to be told that his sister has the same mother, but a different biological father. However, what’s really important is that both he and his sister are being raised by the same daddy. You can tell him families are made all sorts of ways, and yours is just a little bit special. If your son—and eventually your daughter—want to know why this is the case, it’s fair to tell them that it’s a complicated story, and they will probably understand it more when they’re older. Say they can talk about this subject any time, but if they can wait, you and their dad can fill in more details as they grow up. For outsiders, you don’t need to explain anything. You can just say you are blessed with two beautiful children. And your husband needs to tell his mother to stop telling the kids something that’s simply wrong.

She evinces a glimmer of sympathy for the husband, but of course her advice, such as it is, amounts to the usual pro forma feminist crap: suck it up, herbische kopf, for the good of the children.

(The only person who comes out seeming halfway decent is the mother-in-law — the husband’s mother — who wants to protect her son from shame by passing off his daughter as an adoptee. Can you blame her for this honorable lie? She acted with good intentions, even if her solution is unworkable in the long run.)

My advice to him would be: get the hell out of Dodge. And don’t look back, and never let her get her paws on one red cent of your bounty or one precious second of your time. Find yourself a better woman in another country. My alternate advice, if American law weren’t so egregiously stacked against men’s interests, would be to march into court, DNA paternity test results in hand, and punish her with the same everlasting torment she has bestowed him. Grab custody of the one kid that is yours, and send the ex-wife and her love child packing for the icy wastelands, where aging single moms with complicated spawnage have about as much success in the dating market as obese, neckbearded furries. If she winds up killing herself, or her kid graduates to juvie as a glue sniffer, all the better.

Too much? No. Cuckoldry — knowing cuckoldry, at that — is the greatest betrayal. The most horrible metadeath. It is the gleeful sham of a scheming Satan. The cosmic shiv driven deep into the chewy center of the soul. The ur-lie. The King Of All Lies. The one lie to rule them all.

There is only one other lie that comes close to the terrible power of the cuckold’s deception, and that is the fraternal betrayal of a solider against his buddy in the trenches. But that awful betrayal, bad as it is, at least does not rub salt in the wound for eighteen excruciating years.

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  1. on January 9, 2013 at 3:29 pm taterearl

    It’s stories like this that I’ll remember in the worst moments in my life.

    My arm is hacked off…well at least my wife didn’t have a mixed raced baby.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 6:53 pm Zombie Shane

      …well at least my wife didn’t have a mixed raced baby…

      Behold the almighty Negro, the gift which keeps on giving:

      First Antibiotic-Resistant Gonorrhea Cases Detected in North America
      Completely incurable gonorrhea may be at hand
      By Jason Koebler
      January 8, 2013
      usnews.com

      The fears of major health organizations have come true: Gonorrhea that is immune to the last remaining effective oral antibiotic has been detected in at least nine North American patients, meaning the era of “incurable” gonorrhea could be close…

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 8:28 pm thwack

        Thats no problem; the white man will just invent something better to cure it; unless, that is, he himself is becoming degenerate and of questionable racial hygine?

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 9:44 am Zombie Shane

        Robert Burns Woodward gave his 1965 Nobel Prize lecture on Cephalosporin C [and the massive amount of resources which the Anglosphere threw into the effort to create modern antibiotics].

        You can read more about the history of Cephalosporins in this 2007 paper.

        BTW, the CDC website has a nifty interactive tool to calculate relative gonorrhea rates by race.

        If you choose “African American” for “Race A”, and “White” for “Race B”, and if you fiddle around with the years, then you get the following:

        In 2002, African Americans had 23 times the reported gonorrhea rates of Whites.
        In 2003, African Americans had 19.9 times the reported gonorrhea rates of Whites.
        In 2004, African Americans had 18.8 times the reported gonorrhea rates of Whites.
        In 2005, African Americans had 17.6 times the reported gonorrhea rates of Whites.
        In 2006, African Americans had 18 times the reported gonorrhea rates of Whites.
        In 2007, African Americans had 19.1 times the reported gonorrhea rates of Whites.
        In 2008, African Americans had 20.3 times the reported gonorrhea rates of Whites.
        In 2009, African Americans had 20.3 times the reported gonorrhea rates of Whites.
        In 2010, African Americans had 18.2 times the reported gonorrhea rates of Whites.
        In 2011, African Americans had 17 times the reported gonorrhea rates of Whites.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 10:59 am DirkJohanson

        The ratio is trending downward. I assume that’s because more white women – like my former secretary – a hot, 23-at-the-time, petite Italian/Irish, who was a stripper on the side – getting gonorrhea from their African-American drug dealer boyfriends.

        So, lets be honest: us whites are catching up.

        Well, OK, may be not us guys, but hot white women. Nothing to see here (sarcasm).

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 1:25 pm jack

        “The ratio is trending downward.”

        Not significantly. Banging darkies always has been and always will be substantially riskier to your sexual health.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 2:13 pm Greg Eliot

        Friggin’ racist bacilli. 😡

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 2:44 pm thwack

        ok, so it begs the question:

        How dangerous do black guys hafta become before white women won’t fuck em?

        Or is the dangerous black guy thing a myth you made up to scare the white women towards YOU?

        I never been shot, I never been to prison, but if thats how I get hot white girls, I won’t call them a racist for thinking it.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 2:49 pm Greg Eliot

        Not sure what you’re getting at, besides someone’s goat.

        But if you’re now trying to make a correlation between thug violence being the same sort of “thrilling danger” as the possibility of contracting an STD… especially an incurable one, well… that logic escapes me.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 11:28 pm thwack

        Greg Eliot
        Not sure what you’re getting at, besides someone’s goat.
        ————————-

        Kneegro please; stop acting like you are as stoopid as the rest of the white people here.

        Its a simple question: how fucked up do Mondays hafta be before white guys stop posting black male pathology statistics in order to scare white girls out of fucking them?

        If I get a club foot and rabies, would you get off my dick?

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 11:55 pm Greg Eliot

        You mistake the motives of knowledge dissemination… it’s not so much to scare the white girls off, it’s more to take the sheen off the false halos with which the media masters have graced you… and to knock some of that sass out of you showboats.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 8:26 pm Geekjock

        Appreciated reader, first-time commenter here. I agree, definitely higher std rates overall amongst blacks but lets not forget that statistics such as these are representative of lower class African Americans. I consider myself to be of the upper-middle in my group. Lack of education as well as inconsistencies in receiving adequate health care are main contributors to std rate proliferation within that racial subclass. In addition, white people represent 70 percent while blacks only like 13% so the sample sizes are nowhere close to being equatable.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 2:59 am Retrophoebia

        Pareto FTW

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 10:46 am Greg Eliot

        Lack of education as well as inconsistencies in receiving adequate health care are main contributors to std rate proliferation within that racial subclass.

        I suppose indiscriminate fucking and poor hygiene are mere circumstance.

        And while we’re on the subject, what’s this “lack of education” bullshit?

        We all go to school, we all have the same TV and internet… there’s no lack of satellite dishes in the ghetto, last time I drove through.

        Anyone suffering from “lack of education” just isn’t paying attention… or making too many videos for youtube and World Star Hip Hop.

        Funny how that “lack of education” excuse doesn’t seem to keep these po’ folks from usings iPods, iPads, scanning Cyberspace, etc., etc., etc.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 11:40 am Geekjock

        @greg eliot

        “Lack of education” extends beyond the academic realm. blacks within our nation are still recovering from the fact that our ancestors (Americanized slaves) didn’t receive any training other than the tasks they were brought for. As time progresses, even the most blind of observers can validate that the race has made a tremendous turnaround from not even being consider 100% man to all of a sudden making executive decisions for our nation. I’m not here to hold that over you’re head but a hundred-200yrs from now they will want to know the defining moment in which power has begun to shift.

        As a sum of our rawest parts, black people just have relatively higher hormonal levels then ur average white guy(sensed by your women). Presence of these chemicals in sufficient amounts can and will affect any mans decision-making at the conscious level due to lack of mental structure which is a representation of the lower class of African americans(it’s not all their fault). A close enough analogy to describe this urge to mate would be for you to picture going 7days without an orgasm(sex/masturbation, whatever ur thinng is) and reevaluting your standards for fuck value, suprisingly they have been lowered. For some guys on the 1-10 scale, this may be .5 decrease while some may hit the half scale mark(5point decrease).This mindset is a precursor to indiscriminate fucking. I was afforded the opportunity to grow with parents who split(surprised?) but remarried separatedlyproviding me with contrasting perceptions throughout my whole life. My dad was a medical director at a local hospital (psychiatry) as well as owning a practice. Him and my stepmom were the only black people I laid eyes on while my time was spent with them. Living with my mom was completely different, it was in the hood where a lot of my classmates were fatherless. My social circle didn’t contain this group as they were more violent and intent on rebelling any type of authority present out there (innate alpha qualities).

        The lack of education excuse will be inadmissable after a few more generations, right now is jus too soon to ignore its effects. People just like to look at the fact that you had chance to go to high school (which only provides survivability at its lowest level) when in actuality you to take in account a humans upbringing in its entirety. How many of you took piano lessons, martial arts, visited family outside the state for extended periods of time, never saw money as the sole limitation etc.

        Our erroneous spending I feel can be explained by our irrestibility to peacock at all times, in every aspect. I don’t know what it is, it jus feels great to be awesome. Due to extreme competition at the ancestral level, our genetic programming gears us to reproduce often and in variety because as humans we are expendable and could die any moment. This mindset I believe is the driving force behind a lot of irrational decisions individually made within my race. Cost consequences include higher exposure to std, and based off social conditions our social circle had been extremely limited. We were at one point killed for sleeping with white women while our women were raped consequentless. This process allowed bad genes to come in but not leave.

        YouTube or world star hip hop are just forms of entertainment, which we’re good at (as we are at everything). Funny, that’s actually one aspect of our culture unhindered by the white man and u witness our dominance within the media.

        For the record I love everyone, I have white friends(making me not racist) and roommates. I’m in college(science major) and currently waiting tables and bar tending (dad refuses to spoil me 😦 lol) allowing me the chance to observe social order at a mass scale as well as fine tuning my social calibration. At one point I was the only blk there out of 300 employees due to its area in town. I make the most money there, at my position of course.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 5:15 pm josh

        Cant we –in our white wisdom–invent something that would only cure white men?? If we could,we wouldnt because NOT IN MY A-FUCKING-MERICA!!

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      • on January 14, 2013 at 2:47 am Sam

        You’re completely wrong. How do I know. The Black author Thomas Sowell wrote a book that explained that White Southerner males had a violent culture that was passed down to the Blacks through the evils of slavery. White Southern males are responsible for all Black violent behavior.

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      • on January 15, 2013 at 1:25 am Sixpan

        There was a more civilized time within living memory when white Southerners would gleefully “take responsibility” for violent black behavior. It usually involved rope, an oak tree, and some kerosene, “pour encourageur les autres” and that. The effect was salutary, if statistics are to be believed.

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 4:20 am Rights4Men

      Under Gender Communism (a subset of cultural marxism), you don’t have to insult Stalin to get thrown in the gulag, you just have to get entangled with a gash. The gauntlet can take a variety of forms from false rape accusations, sexual misconduct, sexual harassment, domestic violence, divorce, alimony, child support, visitation, etc. etc. the courts, the academy, psychiatry, the television will all support her to the end at your expense for having the misfortune for being born into the natural demographic for social and economic leadership.

      Although there is some ‘art’ involved in picking up women (PUA), the more necessary and important art (or science?) is the development of strategies that will keep men out of jail, the poor house and the nut house.

      Inquiring minds want to know.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 9:42 am Greg Eliot

        Although there is some ‘art’ involved in picking up women (PUA), the more necessary and important art (or science?) is the development of strategies that will keep men out of jail big house, the poor house and the nut house.

        Inquiring minds want to know.

        F@ckin’ gold! Slight edit for panache. 😉

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 12:19 pm Trouble

      ….at least my wife’s hairy hole didn’t puke a mud child

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 7:06 pm Dan

      You guys didn’t even ask the real question. I wonder if the other daddy is gets to visit his new child? Imagine that embarrasment. Omega male life.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 7:43 pm obsessivecakedisorder

        Do you think he even acknowledges his offspring, except as proof that he ‘hit’ a white girl?

        Not that that’s such a *ahem* task these days, in most cases. More fallout from the ‘everybody’s the same’ crowd. A friend’s daughter lost her virginity to a black guy, but to her, that was just more of a credit to proving her diversity and understanding and accepting of everybody’s the same theory. Unsaid is that it was almost an achievement to have lost it to a black guy.

        Had her mother even come home with a black guy, much less slept with him, she’d have been found floating down the river. Literally, no hyperbole.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 7:46 pm obsessivecakedisorder

        Do you think he even acknowledges his offspring, except as proof that he *hit* a white girl?

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  2. on January 9, 2013 at 3:30 pm Lara

    Since there is no custody agreement, he could probably get a passport for his son, without his wife’s knowledge. They could both leave the country, in the middle of the night, never to have contact with this woman again. (it would be tempting to send her a postcard, with a picture of him and their son on a beach with hot women, but it might be an unnecessary risk)

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 3:46 pm thwack

      Is it too late to hang the Jody from a tree?

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 3:52 pm Greg Eliot

        Better to hang her from a tree, rather than another Jody every month.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 3:56 pm ar10308

        Hang them both, obviously.

        Him as a lesson to other Jodys.
        Her as a lesson to other whore wives.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 4:40 pm thwack

        Better to hang her from a tree
        —————————————-

        and if she claims she was raped?

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 5:26 pm Anonymous

        But she admitted it was consensual…..

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 5:31 pm guestreply

        She says it was consensual so the punishment was on her; 80 years ago, if it was consensual, it would have been likely that she would have lied and cried rape just to be vindicated.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 9:08 pm Greg Eliot

        Still trying to play the old Scorcese game of making out like every negro crime was merely some white person covering up their own sin?

        C’mon, thwack… that was salad days tactics… meat in due season, now.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 7:51 pm obsessivecakedisorder

        They don’t even need to try that hard anymore, Greg. White Guilt is taking care of a lot of it.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 5:19 pm josh

        A bit of a paradox here:Femicunts swear women do not lie about rape. yet look at the dear Scottsboro Boys and so many other sweet nigga youth who stretched a rope for rape that–acc to Civil rights Icons,(God Bless ’em,their the ebst of us!!) never happened!Either niggers is lying or womens is!

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 5:12 pm Anon

        He could leave… or he could sue for full custody.

        Alas, the odds of an American court giving full custody to a father are slim, even if the mother is a proven crack whore. On the other hand, where’s the black guy? $1000 says he ain’t paying shit.

        The more interesting thing is the response of the guy’s mother: “my mother-in-law took it upon herself to tell him she was adopted.” The guy’s mother is LYING. Anything less than the truth (i.e., “Your sis looks different because your mom’s a whore”) makes it appear like the guy’s own mother is covering for the chick.

        Is this another typical case of a beta’s own mother consenting to his beatdown? Because we know ALL chicks hate betas.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 5:42 pm corvinus

        On the other hand, where’s the black guy? $1000 says he ain’t paying shit.

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        Upper-Level Feminist Business 401: During the semester we will learn how to optimize Alpha Fucks and Beta Bucks, as we are buttcoked by “alphas” and then go forth into the corporate-state to buttcock betas out of their assettsts (buttcocking their asstettss so to speak lzozlzoz) buttcoki dem outta der assettts in divorce curt, entitle progapms, corproate sexual harrassment suits, and guilting betas and gelding them with the “pay gap” myth. We will transfer teh assetts to the central banks and bernankifiers for teh centyral banks can only create debt-based fiat dollarz which are worth less than nothing, and thus need d awomenz movement to go forth and buttcock and guilt betas into working working working for a hope to lick our std-addled, strecthed-out bungholes lzozlzololzozo. We will examine why betas do not like this setup, and how we can shame them into marriage and slaving away in corproate jobs while we cock hold the alphas and cukhold da betas zlzololzlzlozozololzlzolz. homework will consist of getting buttcocked by a buttccker while mainitaing a roster of at least 20 beta oribters to reguallry buy one meals so that they will be well fed for the buttcocking later that evening. this will prepare tda womenz for bigger game, whnce they get betas to buy them homes and cars, and then dun future buttcockings with aplphas via alimony and child support lzzllzzlzozozozozo. sample exam questions will be, “what does tucker butthexter max wheym with? klzozolzolzolzo

        yah dat is hilarious he has not dat much cashola.

        his movie lost over $10,000,000 which is a huge debt to pay off lzozlzozzzo

        and no matter how much
        money tucker max ever makes
        at the end of the day
        tucker max shymes
        with
        goldman sax
        and at the end of the day
        he is still a buttfucker
        who tapes his butthexuttual activities
        in secret
        without the girths ocnthent.

        this is why pricisooilla paint ion prsicillia painton at sodom and scheister simon and schuster love him as does charlotte allen at the weekly standadth who repeats tucker’s lies about his height zlozozzzl and they give him publiciicilyties and hundreds of thousands of benrnake dollars for sodomizing future wives and taping it in secrete zlzozzlzoz

        ‘dis is what happens z when u let womenz run the world along sides asksocckerz zlzozozooz douchebags slzozoz

        HOW DA FED HIDES INFLATION:

        da fed hides inflation in many, many ways

        frist of all, da government always lies about the true inflation lozozozl but you see it at the gas pump as day pump and dump your future wife in college deosuling and ebenrnkaifiying her

        A LOT OF INFLATION is hidden in your future wife’s buttonhole lzozlzoz

        with all da extra dolzlrz zlzozo day print dollars and fund feminism and sassockcing lessons as socking seminars assockcing instructions on da college campus where day can butthext and deosul your future wife and make her loyal first and foremost to da bottom line lzozozl da BOTTOM line lzozozoz da BOTTOM UTTHOLE line lzozozlzl programming her to seize your assets to tempt you into marriage, seize your assets and spy on you, and then forward all your emails to da FED alongside all of your assettsts ASS tests ASSsetts zlzozzzlz BOOTOTOM LINE BOTTOM LINE ASSests zlzozozllzozoz

        once upon a time a man couple support a family and a wife and kids and rise them proper moral decent lzozllzoz

        but now, due to da FED’s massive inflation which they hide in your wife’s buttonhole during secretive tucker max rheyme with godlmans sax secretly taped buttehxting sessions, she will be more loyal to da shopping channels and her sista’s and the CIA’s cosmo magazine zlozozzllzzol and unloyal not loyal to family, god , man, religion, and thus she will insatiate initiate over 80% of divorce as the FED whispers to her that she will get her uhusdbansds assetsts to fund future as socking as socking buttonhole cockas sessions that they addickecter adduced adDICKted her to in college lzoolzlzozo

        and da fed gets a gut

        as they must convert

        worthless less than zero fiat debt

        into physical assetttss

        by seizing property and lifer and liberty form da betas

        operating through their wive’s buttholios

        where they dhid allda inflation zlozozozlz

        DANTE and MILTON noted the same thing, so if you do not believe da GBFM, take it up with DANTE and MILTON asslcocen zlzzzl assclowns zlzozlzlzo

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 5:23 pm josh

        You know what the femcunys say:There IS a role for men in feminism.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 5:56 pm Kate

      Why should he have to go into exile for her actions? I live near a border; I’ve thought about it, but it wouldn’t be worth it. Never to see your own family again? To start life over completely alone? Find a job as a foreigner? No. He needs to stand his ground and get what he deserves here on his home turf.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 8:58 pm j

        But the State will almost certainly decide that he deserves to lose his house and half his assets, once a week visitation, and to pay monthly child-support checks for both kids. Also maybe alimony.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 9:13 pm Kate

        He needs to find a good lawyer, figure out his options, and decide on the best course of action. Sure, there’s a price to freedom, but what will it cost him if he stays.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 9:57 pm thwack

        Turn around or GTFO

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 10:10 pm Kate

        No can do. I’m busy watching Alfie.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 11:52 pm Greg Eliot

        What’s it all about?

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 5:30 pm josh

        What this guy should be doing is fucking every woman he can get his hands on and his dick IN. Esp asians and Latinos. At the same time he should be hiding his fuckin money!And consulting a divorce lawyer. Maybe move to another state.”Dear lets start over”–where things might work better. If all else fails…heh heh heh,well,they say this James Holmes guy had plastic bags put on his hands after he was arrested in Auroro,and he used the bags as puppets,talking to each other. Da devil made me do ot,your Honor. Da Devil made me put those slugs into her…haw haw haw!

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 3:18 pm NiteLily

        There is a national law firm that represent only men in custody battles. It has some clout.

        How can he stay married to such a whore witch is just disgusting. A man like him will die in his 60s from disappointment, unhappiness, and lack of a self-actualization. He needs to find a much younger GF and live it up.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 8:48 am JumboBeef

        Correction: A man will kill in his 60s from disappointment, unhappiness and lack of a self actualization.

        Why do you want to kill the guy who is innocent.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 10:29 am Sidewinder

        Not true. His biggest liability is if he did not act to assert his rights soon enough. He should have immediately sued for divorce and determination of paternity and joined the black guy as a defendant. He would have received at least primary custody of his son, potentially sole physical custody subject to mother’s rights of visitation. Since the bastard child was born during the marriage, it would be presumed to be his, so he would need the court to enter a finding of paternity against the black guy. Black guy would then be obligated to pay support (or to raise the child and get support from wife if court awards him custody). Back to our BOTM, with primary custody of their son, father would have likely have the option of keeping the home after buying his ex out of her marital share, and would be entitled to monthly child support from wife as the primary custodian. (I realize courts don’t like to use the term “primary” custody anymore, but that is still what they do in effect).

        Wife would likely move into condo that she couldn’t afford, section 8 housing a few months later after she gets evicted from condo. It may be sad for the son to effectively lose what he knows to be his mother, but that is what happens when one commits a crime and goes to prison. We don’t excuse criminals because their incarceration may be hard on their kids. She committed a crime, and she got what was coming to her.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 3:21 pm NiteLily

        “She committed a crime, and she got what was coming to her.”
        so true.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 5:58 pm Anon

        “It may be sad for the son to effectively lose what he knows to be his mother” – The last thing the kid needs is to be constantly reminded of this.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 2:43 pm Prof. Woland

        It is called paternity fraud for a reason. What is really needed is to get the laws changed so the guy who was cheated on can collect damages from his wife and the biological father. Set the penalty for emotional damages for 10 times what the financial cost was. Better yet, make the damages subject to compound interest so the longer it takes to detect the fraud the harsher the penalty becomes. This guy is lucky a little nig-nog fell out because the gig was up right away. He could have cut and ran right then minimizing his financial and emotional investment in the little bastard. Of course, the reason he is BOTM is that he stayed and got pissed on but nonetheless. Furthermore, make the cost non-dischargeable in bankruptcy court like child support is now so his wife and lover will be on the hook forever. He might have to wait until they are 65 so he can be assigned their social security payments in addition to any other assets they may own but the cheaters will never get to keep a dime until they eaten their just desserts. No pity, no remorse.

        This would have real teeth because the way hypergamy works, women hate, hate, hate paying men money. They would rather give up a child for adoption to a total stranger than have the biological father take custody thereby threatening her with child support. This is also why women always look to marry up and not down.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 3:53 pm NiteLily

        “This would have real teeth because the way hypergamy works, women hate, hate, hate paying men money. They would rather give up a child for adoption to a total stranger than have the biological father take custody thereby threatening her with child support. This is also why women always look to marry up and not down.”

        That’s true, but men can ask for custody and forgo child support. There is no law that says you have to take money from the other parent.

        Child support should be abolished. Because of child support, the parent who doesn’t have the best interest of the child ends up taking the child. The parent with the money should take the kids, unless he/she don’t want to or there are other mitigating reasons like mental health.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 4:52 pm Prof. Woland

        Nite Lily, what i am saying is that fraud is illegal and if someone commits paternity fraud, at the very least, they sould be required to pay the aggrieved party which in this case is the husband. this also makes much more sense with todays no fault divorce laws and the ability to absolutely establish paternity using DNA. women hate, hate, hate paying alimony and child support even more than men which is why they never do. this is one reason women are loathe to marry someone who is below them on the socio-economic ladder. not only don’t they get benefits but men like that are a risk. just look at black women and why they never marry. women go to great lengths before filing divorce to readjust their work hours to make sure they are never in position to pay the man. it is why many women unreasonably fight for full custody. the collection rate from women who are required to pay alimony and child support is much worse for women than men. the answer is to get the responsible parties to pay.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 5:38 pm NiteLily

        “to get the responsible parties to pay.”

        I agree with that too.
        No fault divorce is the worst thing the feminists have instilled into the culture.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 9:52 am Lara

        You’re right, turning himself into a criminal, when he’s done nothing wrong, is dumb.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 11:40 am the fauvist

        The problem is that in the eyes of feminist laws he’s already a criminal, so that ship sailed.

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    • on January 11, 2013 at 7:26 am Maven3

      Actually, that probably the best solution.
      However it will require to move assets overseas as well – maybe even leaving her with debt/bills to pay.

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  3. on January 9, 2013 at 3:31 pm IHTG

    That’s an interesting final paragraph, Heartiste. What made you think of writing something that’s so unconnected with the rest of the text?

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  4. on January 9, 2013 at 3:32 pm mindweapon

    Reblogged this on Mindweapons in Ragnarok and commented:
    Heartiste is awesome!

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  5. on January 9, 2013 at 3:34 pm jack

    the wife/mother in this story is certainly ugly and/or fat.

    given what we know of her husband’s betaness, and the standards of black men, evidence is overwhelming for her to be a frumpy, muffin topped ugly fuck.

    just saying.

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 3:25 pm NiteLily

      You have profiled her very accurately.

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  6. on January 9, 2013 at 3:34 pm The Specimen

    Race baiting hate storm commencing in 3…2…1

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 3:36 pm Greg Eliot

      I’d say it already began in the article.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 3:46 pm Greg Eliot

        And well-deserved.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 5:43 pm corvinus

        Looks like Specimen’s grenade was just defused

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 6:30 pm The Specimen

        Don’t know about a grenade, I was just hoping to sit back with a bowl of popcorn and a 40 oz of haterade and bask in the trollery.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 1:40 pm PetiteOlive

        No it didn’t. I didn’t see any racial hate (covert or overt) in Heartsy’s narration at all apart from stating the obvious.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 1:52 pm Greg Eliot

        Point is, my darling snowflake, that any ‘stating the obvious’ nowadays will be deemed hate by the goatdancers.

        Do try to keep up, there’s a good girl.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 1:55 pm Greg Eliot

        For example:

        mocha child in tow is living proof the whore wife cuckolded him in the arms of a five-point buck?

        Will send more than a few Jizzy Belles clutching after vapors.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 4:48 pm PetiteOlive

        I will try daddy :p

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      • on January 13, 2013 at 1:30 pm Greg Eliot

        So, you do admit it?

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 2:55 pm thwack

        and I didn’t see any “anti semitism” in Hitler’s speech besides stating the obvious.

        Adolph Hitler had more INTEGRITY than everyone who posts on this site COMBINED.

        All you question mark, sellout, fair weather, indian giver, kinda, sorta, maybe, sometimes, gay ass mother fuckers.

        Ya’ll disgust me.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 4:49 pm PetiteOlive

        lol

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 5:36 pm josh

      When I was younger and felt “guilty” about the negro thing and was liberal,I came across a story of a poor powerless negro dude,caught his wife banging a white guy. He couldnt do much as that was the “bad old days.” Well sir,I felt sorry for this guy and thought the white guy a real bastard,and wouldve loved to se him get what was coming to him. Do you think the black today would evre.ever,..EVER??.feel any symopathy for THIS poor fool? I think they’d laugh like a mofo and be proud! We are not the same.They may be human,but its a different KIND of human.

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  7. on January 9, 2013 at 3:35 pm Greg Eliot

    You can tell him families are made all sorts of ways, and yours is just a little bit special.

    Reading that made me so mad, I damn near stamped my foot.

    But I didn’t want to ruin the shine on my newly-polished jackboots.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 7:15 pm Diomedes

      HAHAHAHAHA! Fantastique!

      Have a family friend who got the full cuckold works: He arrived at the hospital to find wife (who was been diagnosed as bi-polar at an early age) knocking out a child with full afro. Turns out the father was a man who the wife had introduced to the husband on a number of times. (To the initiated an obvious sign of wrongdoing.) That was 18 years ago and looking at him today I have never seen a more broken man. His bitch still flirts gratuitously.

      The only thing positive thing to come out of it that it has cemented within me that the knowledge that facing the hangman is preferable to raising another’s son.

      Why you do not hear about more men facing life as a result of these stories is a mystery.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 4:48 pm NiceGuyGoneCad (@NiceGuyGoneCad)

        It’s not a mystery at all. Simply the result of pervasive feminist and “pacifist” brainwashing in the educational system and the media, besides all the testosterone-lowering chemicals that poison most of our food and environment.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 5:46 pm NiteLily

        Be careful, don’t speak against the pacifist here. Many of the PUAs say they are pacifists. How else could they bang so much pussy form every land, continent, creed, language, color, socio-economic, background? Pacifism is how. It’s mucho Importante.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 6:13 pm Starets

        ???????

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 8:53 am Jumbobeef

        Hahaha, Whorelily at it again, you cannot even keep your mouth close for 1 second can you.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 8:36 pm thwack

      Actually, if I was white, I would prefer a cheating wife that cheated with black guys because then I at least have a chance of quickly detecting that Ive been cheated on before the statue of libertations ran out.

      How am I doin white guys?

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 9:11 pm Greg Eliot

        Them statues tend to clutter up the garden.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 1:17 pm hehehe

        lolz

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 8:14 pm obsessivecakedisorder

        And you have to pay the messican landscaper extra to trim around them.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 10:00 am newyorker

        true story: a relative’s fiance cheated with and unknowingly impregnated the wife of a south asian. when she gave birth to a blue-eyed blond girl he saw it wasn’t his and bolted. the real dad and his wife had no clue as to her existence until he was hit with a paternity suit.

        there was a happy ending. the real dad was eventually given custody although he wasn’t seeking it because the mom proved to be a nut. the girl grew up to be bright and pretty, unlike my relative’s daughter from when she was knocked up by some knuckledragger at age 16. my relative initially resented having to raise her but the girl proved to be such a sweetheart and helpful with her younger half-siblings that she endeared herself to her.

        come to think of it, the bastard child is turning out to be the most successful of the bunch.

        [Heartiste: Having two parents in the home will do that to a girl.]

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 10:09 am newyorker

        i forgot to mention that the real mom was white.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 10:16 am Greg Eliot

        … when she gave birth to a blue-eyed blond girl…

        No you didn’t. 😉

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 1:17 pm Peter South

        Oh lawd this one sounds real edumacated and whatnot.

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 2:06 pm Anonymous

      Prudence could say: Tell him, “Son, your sister is here because I wanted some black cock and couldn’t keep my legs together or use birth control, and she’s a walking embarrassment to your father and to me, if I had any morals, but I just feel good about it all because he was better than your father.” but that would require integrity in being “honest” with children.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 11:36 pm thwack

        Shit, I say a white boy having a black half sister in the house is better than a white boy with two faggot dads in the house.

        But ya’ll hate mondays so bad you lose your minds.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 11:52 pm Greg Eliot

        I agree with you whole-heartedly, old friend… but those aren’t the only two alternatives, are they?

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 8:00 pm V

      You beat me to the punch, Greg. SPECIAL? Tell the son that his whore mom did a GOOD thing? I can just see it now… poor boy goes to school and tells the other kids, “MY family is SPECIAL, YOUR family is only normal.” Sure, that’s the best thing to do. Give the poor kid a cuckold fetish of his own so he can grow up and have his own ‘special’ family.

      It might be tough on the children for a short time, but in the long run, teach them the hard lesson that some things are unacceptable no matter what.

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  8. on January 9, 2013 at 3:36 pm Jumbobeef

    Fucked and Fucked, which is why i say marriage is lethal to a man, It is and will be used against you even if you surrender :D, so Lace your boots fellows, you are marching into the club of no marriage only hook ups.

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  9. on January 9, 2013 at 3:38 pm Scott

    Filthy coal-burning whore.

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  10. on January 9, 2013 at 3:41 pm Red Pill

    What a story; Jesus Christ…

    Just don’t get married.

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  11. on January 9, 2013 at 3:41 pm YaReally

    Feminist-baiting, race-baiting, men’s rights-baiting, abortion-baiting, marriage-baiting…CH has struck the mother-load!

    I’m certain that this will be a nice calm rational comment section. lol have fun y’all.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 3:47 pm taterearl

      If there is a gay brother involved the universe will explode.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 3:48 pm taterearl

        Or if that brother is gay.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 6:26 pm Starets

      Don’t forget the typical feminist advice from a YKW mass media “advice” columnist.

      So we can include mainstream media-baiting and YKW-baiting, for a truly epic discussion in the comments.

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  12. on January 9, 2013 at 3:42 pm ar10308

    Femcunt: “Nice guys are really jerks! You would know that if you weren’t such a jerk.”

    So have we come full-circle to point where Nice Guys are on the verge of inducing tingles?

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 3:44 pm Greg Eliot

      Well-played, sir.

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 1:45 pm Anonymous

      It’s the latest Feminazi rage… blame the victims they’re turning down and cuckolding:
      http://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/archive/2013/01/sympathy-for-the-nice-guys-of-okcupid/266929/

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    • on January 11, 2013 at 1:24 pm Peter South

      A broken clock is right twice a day.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 3:18 pm Greg Eliot

        But no one knows when.

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  13. on January 9, 2013 at 3:43 pm dana

    ahahahhaha herbische kopf

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  14. on January 9, 2013 at 3:43 pm Greg Eliot

    Then again, this is how we get our thwacks… the little Dickenses!

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  15. on January 9, 2013 at 3:46 pm Chris from Dublin

    Wahey! Beta of the Month is BAAAACK!!!

    Just when we need it more than ever!

    2013 – this will be the year when the last straw breaks the camel’s back!

    Happy New Year!

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 10:23 pm Starets

      “2013 – this will be the year when the last straw breaks the camel’s back!”

      I sure hope you are right.

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 9:09 am jackmcg

      well you would know about brokebacks

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 9:43 am Greg Eliot

        zing!

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  16. on January 9, 2013 at 3:51 pm Poolside Forever

    OT, but here’s a nice little primer on disinformation tactics. Note the parallel between screeching feminist shaming language and psyops:

    http://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 7:19 pm Diomedes

      Thank you for the link. Quality material.

      I do however believe it leaves out four letters: JIDF.

      They, without question are the masters.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 8:25 pm Greg Eliot

        They have a few useful idiots and true-believer disciples on this very forum.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 9:50 pm NiteLily

        And don’t forget to include on this forum that they also have some Nazis, Nazi sympathizers, anti-Semites, racists, bigots, and shameful haters of all type of humans, unless he is white and male. That’s why I think you guys are VERY dangerous to our cause. Men like you give the feminists and all the rest of the lefties credence. Those lefties look at you and say, “Look, we told you what conservatives are! They are bigoted misogynist, sexists, racists. Don’t be like them.” That’s how they win elections and why we stray behind holding an empty bag. Way to go, STUPID MEN! But then again, most of you are not men, are you? Most of you are losers with a penis. Just like feminists are losers with a vagina. Same shit, different sex.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 11:06 pm Diomedes

        The above is the contents of Poolside Forever’s link in practice.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 12:53 pm Greg Eliot

        Touche`

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 11:17 pm lights

        Yeah, and if we Nat-sees were just nicer the feminists and liberals would listen to us.

        ps. you forgot to say we can’t get laid.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 11:41 pm Greg Eliot

        Personally, I haven’t cared about the electoral process in over thirty years… I certainly don’t identify with conservatives because I have no interest in raising the dead of mankind’s follies… I’m interested in the birth of something new.

        And I certainly don’t care about winning the hearts, or even the ears, of those who don’t share my vision and naively remain faithful to the Babylonian abomination that democracy has become.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 11:59 pm NiteLily

        You don’t have to be nice to feminists and liberals. You can put them in their place but you don’t need to use racial speak. The moment you use racist nonsense, those that want to derail us use it to their advantage. Truth is, most Americans are no racist or bigots, as most blacks would have you believe. They just look at the small segment of the population that is racists (it seems most of them post here 🙂 ) and they use it to prove that all whites are racist. Since most Americans are decent good-natured people, they don’t feel good with that type of world view and they turn away from us. This kind of rhetoric only helps the liberals. We need to stick to facts – why feminism, socialism, affirmative action, single motherhood, homosexuality, high taxes, economic “equality”, and free immigration don’t work; why they interfere with a free prosperous society. What does it all have to do with J or N?

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 1:24 am lights

        Greg, I’ve heard the Northwest is a nice place for a new start.

        NiteLily, I’m not a frothing at the mouth hater of Jews. What I am is someone who has taken a measured look at documented Jewish involvement in left wing revolutions, led by individuals like Lenin and Soros, motivated by contempt of Western Civilization and Europeans ourselves. You do realize the rebuttal “NAJALT” is bluepill to the core, right?

        Read your Talmud, read Culture of Critique, and quit white knighting for a people whose elites see Gentiles as livestock. Unless you’re Jewish yourself, in which case, prove me wrong.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 3:47 pm NiteLily

        @lights

        You’re wrong. All you do is pick and choose statements from here and there and stich together a hateful quilt of lies. You make it sound like only J were involved in left wing revolutions. You overlook all the Gentiles involved as well.

        And what about right-wing revolutions? Nazi Germany. What has that yielded? Anything good?

        You speak against the Talmud? Half of Jesus’ declarations in the New Testament come from there (verbatim) and the other half is his quoting (verbatim again) of the Old Testament. Is Jesus a hater? The Talmud is not an instrument of hate, yet most anti-Semites will use it as proof the J are hateful of Gentiles. You pick and choose some statements here and there and you put together a false picture. None of you idiots have any credulity. Most of you are juts jealous of them. Maybe if you had business, were doctors or had other high positions in society you wouldn’t be so resentful and frustrated.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 4:03 pm lights

        Thanks, mom.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 4:37 pm NiteLily

        I’m practicing.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 5:34 pm Skunk

        **Truth is, most Americans are no racist or bigots, as most blacks would have you believe. They just look at the small segment of the population that is racists (it seems most of them post here ) and they use it to prove that all whites are racist. Since most Americans are decent good-natured people, they don’t feel good with that type of world view and they turn away from us. This kind of rhetoric only helps the liberals. We need to stick to facts – why feminism, socialism, affirmative action, single motherhood, homosexuality, high taxes, economic “equality”, and free immigration don’t work; why they interfere with a free prosperous society.**

        It doesn’t matter, NiteLily. If you don’t use overt racial language they will just accuse you of using covert racial language. You, for example, bring up ‘free immigration’, which means you hate hispanics. Any attempt to refute the claim just puts you on the defensive, while making no attempt to refute the claim is taken as a concession.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 6:03 pm NiteLily

        “You, for example, bring up ‘free immigration’, which means you hate hispanics.”

        I know they twist everything. For example, they are very good at manipulating the language and looking for innocuous expressions to make their policies look harmless. For instance, illegal aliens to them are undocumented works. Redistribution of wealth is economic justice. Who doesn’t like justice? They mask their evil plans with a langue that sounds so decent and helpful.

        We need to learn to manipulate everything like they do. Why haven’t we learned from their tactics, yet all we do is spew our unhappiness which sometimes sounds like this racist bullshit? They know redistribution of wealth would be most opposed by most normal people, but economic justice sounds much better, especially to the untrained ear.

        I can’t stand Ron Paul, but his son Rand is much better at understanding how to present things in ways that make sense. He is a strong constitutionalist. If we stick to the Constitution we won’t go wrong. Trouble is, even on the Right they don’t give it much respect. It has become disrespected like the Bible. Rand should have been picked as vice-president. We would have won.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 12:12 am the fauvist

        Or, if you employed a rational view of the world rather than an ill-conceived emotional outburst some people might listen to you.

        As it is, no one really does.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 2:01 am gunslingergregi

        blacks are racist against blacks the fuck you talkin bout nitelilly

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 2:33 am Greg Eliot

        You speak against the Talmud? Half of Jesus’ declarations in the New Testament come from there (verbatim) and the other half is his quoting (verbatim again) of the Old Testament.

        The Talmud wasn’t written until well after Jesus was crucified.

        The Talmud has blaspheme Christ.

        Oral tradition, from which Christ may have quoted, and some general wisdom of which may have been written down much later in said Talmud, is not the same thing as “quoting the Talmud”.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 8:45 am J.M.

        @lights agree wholeheartedly. Nitelily most likely is a brainwashed “Christian” or just a Jew herself. Anyone with an open mind to the evidence and without the blinders of “conspiracy” would see through the bullshit modern “society, discourse and politics are today (dammit your country was born of conspiracy and betrayal against your lawful King at that time no matter what beautiful phrases you use to obfuscate this reality or the fact this King was not more despotic by yesteryear standards than your current government).

        I’ve been to the U.S. and you can be sure that many small 3rd world countries have more choice in their elections than the U.S. or any West European country. In most of the developed world the only choices seem to be: from bad and worse in the long run to worse in short term. And Elliot even though I disagree with him in many things has answered just what I was about to answer about the Talmud bullshit Nitelily spewed.

        In reference to cuckoldry what happened to this man was a pity and a disgrace but in any case he shouldn’t have suffered the birth and raising of this bastard no matter what her race is. He should have abandoned her outright with his son, either through court battle and if need be, exile to a another destination and begin his life anew. The bastard child is not guilty of anything but sometimes the children must suffer momentarily in order to right the wrongs. But I guess I don´t have the morals to speak on that issue.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 12:43 pm NiteLily

        “The Talmud wasn’t written until well after Jesus was crucified.”

        You mean it wasn’t completed until after Jesus was crucified, but it was started way before. The Talmud, which is the Jewish Oral law, is a work that began after the First Temple’s destruction, 500 years before Jesus. It took the Talmud 1,000 years to be completed. As you know there are 2 of them, the Babylonian and the Jerusalem Talmuds. Both took centuries to complete.

        “is not the same thing as “quoting the Talmud”.

        Oh yes it is. The Talmud is the Jewish Oral Law. He was quoting it word for word – statements taken right out of the Talmud. But why are you surprised? He was Jewish and he was practicing Judaism. What he was teaching the Gentiles he learned from his rabbis. There is no controversy here, unless you would like to demonize the Talmud and make it sounds like it’s anti-Gentile, which many anti-Semites and Christian fanatics, like you and J.M think.

        “The Talmud has blaspheme Christ.”

        Right, because the Jews don’t accept him as God, the son of God, or the Messiah. So in the parts written during his life they have one page about him calling him a “false prophet, one of many that sprung up at the time.”

        A question for you:

        The Muslims don’t believe in Jesus either, why aren’t fanatics like you and J.M not freaking out that one billion Muslims don’t believe in Jesus, but the 16 million Jews is more irksome to you anti-Semites? How about 1.5 billion chines and 750 million Hindus? Don’t you want to save their souls as well? Why are you just preoccupied by the Jews not accepting Jesus?

        See, it doesn’t bother me in the least that the Jews don’t accept Jesus. I think God sent Jesus for us the Gentiles and the pagans, not the Jews. Why? Because the Jews already had a covenant with God so what use is he to them? On the other hand, the Gentiles had nothing, just paganism and lack of morality. They needed Jesus, not the Jews from whom morality sprung. Your arguments are absurd

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 5:38 am Anonymous

        Those lefties look at you and say, “Look, we told you what conservatives are! They are bigoted misogynist, sexists, racists.

        The problem there being that they are entirely correct in being so. Exactly what “our cause” are you referring to?

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 3:47 pm NiteLily

        Destroying leftism and all its offshoots.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 7:36 pm Starets

        Hasbara. Not our cause, but theirs.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 12:09 am the fauvist

        No, they aren’t, they base their views in emotional anguish rather than logic and sense. Racial hatred is the tell-tale sign of a weak mind.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 12:29 am Greg Eliot

        Racial hatred is the tell-tale sign of a weak mind.

        Nobody defends irrational hatred… but being wary of outsiders, especially when many have shown to be deleterious to the well-being of one’s own extended family, is the most natural thing in the world.

        Indiscriminate embracing of other races is the OVERT sign of a weak mind.

        “Out of the corruption of women proceeds the confusion of castes; out of the confusion of castes, the loss of memory; out of the loss of memory the lack of understanding; and out of all this, all evils.”[Bhagavad Gita]

        Of course, I understand that you yourself are much smarter than the author of that passage.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 12:02 pm the fauvist

        Given that that passage was spoken by Lord Krishna (“Krishna” roughly meaning the dark one) I’d say I’m not at all smarter but that’s OK with me. Also I’m surprised you went for a Hindu (ie non-European) text, perhaps you have more affinity for non-European peoples than I originally thought.

        Being wary of outsiders is one thing, but first, blacks haven’t been “outsiders” to this continent for centuries, and anyway we’re no strangers to each other…and secondly, inter-racial marriage isn’t at all deleterious to one’s family if it’s gone about the right way…if you don’t believe me go ask Michael Caine or any number of others who’ve done it well. I think your wariness may be clouding your view of the topic, frankly.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 3:22 pm Greg Eliot

        Can’t tell Aryan Brahmin from Dravidian, eh, Shlomo?

        Sell your obfuscation elsewhere… the chateau is already stocked up with your product.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 4:52 pm the fauvist

        Aryans intermixed with the people they came across, and anyway Dravidians are Hindus too, including members of the priestly Brahmin caste. It’s not obfuscation it’s how humans interact.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 9:00 am Jumbobeef

        >That’s why I think you guys are VERY dangerous to our cause

        What cause? care to elaborate.

        >Way to go, STUPID MEN! But then again, most of you are not men, are you? Most of you are losers with a penis.

        Would you like some vinegar with the penis?

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 1:26 pm Peter South

        See this is why women shouldn’t vote.

        Then we wouldn’t have to worry about what feminists think.

        Nice shaming language btw, really impressive. *yawn

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 8:15 pm Starets

      Thanks for posting that. Very useful info.

      Of course, we can always play at the same game. Just set sights on the feminist and mulitcult websites.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 8:58 pm Greg Eliot

      +1

      And it does my heart good to see more men here at the chateau taking the red pill and speaking out about this aspect of Babylon Amerikwa and internet cognis Yahudery.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 10:57 pm NiteLily

        You and a heart don’t go together. You and H do better as a team, though.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 11:55 pm Greg Eliot

        Me and Heartiste? Naw, no team… we’re cut from lone wolf cloth.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 2:10 pm NiteLily

        LOL! I was waiting for you to misunderstand and assume I meant you and the owner of this site. LOL! Thanks for the laughs. Your stupidity never fails.

        Don’t be stupid; not you and the owner of this site. You’re nothing like him and it’s an insult to him to say you’re like him.

        The H I was referring to is the former leader of Germany. In case you haven’t noticed, we can’t say his name outright.

        You and heart don’t go together. You and the former leader of Germany do better as a team, though.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 2:17 pm Greg Eliot

        The H I was referring to is the former leader of Germany. In case you haven’t noticed, we can’t say his name outright.

        Who’s this we?

        a) The royal we
        b) There’s a hamster in your pocket
        c) You’re admitting you’re, eh, YKW

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 2:21 pm NiteLily

        Not a,b,or c. CH asked that we don’t mention certain words. That’s why I started to say H.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 2:24 pm Greg Eliot

        Let’s see… the J word… the N world… and now the H word?

        Pretty soon they’ll be nothing left of the alphabet for either Alpha or Beta.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 2:15 pm Greg Eliot

        It was a joke, dear… as you will have noticed, my jests at the chateau often fall flat… especially to the irony-challenged.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 2:19 pm NiteLily

        LOL! “irony-challenged” Gee, look who’s calling the kettle.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 9:45 am Greg Eliot

        Ah, you do me a disservice, lassie. Upon sitting through the entirety of the Neil Patrick Harris version of Company, Sondheim himself deemed me a Righteous Gentile.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 3:56 pm NiteLily

        I was going to tell you something not so nice here, but I decided to spare you. Neil Patrick Harris? I can’t stomach looking at him even through a veil curtain.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 4:13 pm Greg Eliot

        What, yet another jest fallen flat? :sigh:

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 4:40 pm NiteLily

        I’m sparing my court jester. BTW, why are you assuming thwack’s role?

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 4:51 pm Greg Eliot

        Imagine yourself the queen of the chateau, do you?

        There aren’t enough L’s, O’s, and Z’s on my keyboard.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 6:09 pm NiteLily

        Me, the queen of the Chateau? Not in the least.

        More like, you are the mercenary on the hunt for destruction of the “evil’ J.

        You like dual roles, eh? On one side, you are the harmless jester. On the other, the protector of the white race against those that say otherwise on the blog. LOL! Get a grip!

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 6:17 pm Greg Eliot

        You referred to me as your jester, hence the presumption of your self-styled royalty.

        As far as my having a sense of humor as well as situational gravitas, well… I’m sure even you can comprehend the idea of a multifaceted individual.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 2:04 am gunslingergregi

        i am convinced night is wierdo plant

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  17. on January 9, 2013 at 3:51 pm Steve

    Another European-American whore, destroying her ethnicity, her race. She doesn’t give a damn about tens of thousands of years of heritage and dna. Another European-American white woman who doesn’t give a damn about her husband or family. Disgusting. And the jew advice columnist Yoffe is supporting this destructive behavior(the genetic genocide of European-Americans).

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 3:53 pm Greg Eliot

      Jew advice columnist? I’m shocked… shocked to learn!

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 5:06 pm NiteLily

        Ouch, the Jews again. Leave it to you to mention it as if it’s relevant.

        FYI, she isn’t giving her bad advice because she is Jewish. She is giving her bad advice because she is a liberal and that’s what they think. You really are a stupid moron.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 5:14 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        +1 NiteLily. You’re really starting to grow on me.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 5:20 pm NiteLily

        Stick with me girl; there is reason to my madness. LOL!

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 8:35 pm Greg Eliot

        JIDF… meh.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 6:40 pm Tertullian

        And both of you cunts — you, RD, and you, Nitelily — are really starting to bore the rest of us.

        Fuck off, please?

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 6:54 pm NiteLily

        Hahaha…..Look who is talking about being boring. I’m bored with screaming the Jews this and the Jews that all the time. Find a more winning argument, please.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 9:07 pm Kate

        Alright, you two. Its the “peace table” or detention. What’ll it be?

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 5:43 pm Greg Eliot

        +1 NiteLily. You’re really starting to grow on me.

        With all the horse manure she’s been spreading, and how you’re obviously in the dark about most things discussed here, I imagine mushrooms are growing on you as well.

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      • on January 13, 2013 at 6:14 pm aleister

        I loled !

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 5:19 pm Arkan

        I’ve always enjoyed reading this blog, but this repulsive shabbos goy whore is really ruining the experience for me. Please ban her.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 5:22 pm NiteLily

        Anti-Semite, much? Maybe you should get banned, eh?

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 5:30 pm Arkan

        Sorry, but white philosemites are even worse than racemixers.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 5:47 pm NiteLily

        And backward ass crazies like you and the one you defend are even worse than lefties. On second thought, maybe both are the same garbage. People like you and them ruin this country.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 5:50 pm corvinus

        Forget it, Arkan. NiteLily really does think Jews can do no wrong. It’s part of her religion.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 6:08 pm NiteLily

        @ corvinus,
        None, because not all Jews are liberal. This is a fallacious argument to try to justify your hatred of Jews. I see your true colors shining through.

        But haven’t we been there before? Didn’t we prove already that not all Jews are liberal?

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 6:24 pm NiteLily

        Wrong sweetheart. Liberal Jews I don’t like, as opposed to not liking all Jews. But then again I don’t like most liberals and most libertarians regardless of their race, ethnicity, or religion simply because of their views. Most of you just hate all Jews wholesale because, why? Because you just hate Jews for the sake of it, and for the sake of your jealousy and some retarded conspiracy theories you heard from the retarded Ron Paul and his followers.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 7:17 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        And what’s wrong with Jews, Arkan? What problem do you have with them? Do you know the average Ashkenazi Jew IQ is 115? That means their dumbshits score the same as the average person of Northern European heritage. And they share our value systems. And their crime rate is virtually zero. And if none of that changes your mind, well, here’s this: They’re a tiny percentage of the US population. Even if you hate them so much it gives you a forehead vein, there are fewer of them than there are homosexuals.

        In short, you will pull my Jewish doctors from my cold dead hands.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 7:53 pm burp

        You can change your name, you can change your nose, you can change your hood, and you’re still the same.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 8:24 pm Diomedes

        “Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves.”

        Menachem Begin. Prime Minister of Israel 1977-1983. Leader of terrorist group Irgun who blew up Kind David Hotel and commited Deir Yassin Massacre. Allowed Mossad to bait people into bombing the barracks in Beirut leading to the deaths of 241 Americans.

        [Posted without comment.]

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 8:59 pm corvinus

        @ corvinus,
        None, because not all Jews are liberal. This is a fallacious argument to try to justify your hatred of Jews. I see your true colors shining through.

        But haven’t we been there before? Didn’t we prove already that not all Jews are liberal?

        Yeah, NAJALT. I know a few Jews that I really like. But, they bear a grave responsibility for making the liberal disease worse, including feminism. If, for the sake of argument, Jews as a whole shunned feminism in the 1960s, do you think it would have gone anywhere?

        And what’s wrong with Jews, Arkan? What problem do you have with them? Do you know the average Ashkenazi Jew IQ is 115? That means their dumbshits score the same as the average person of Northern European heritage. And they share our value systems. And their crime rate is virtually zero. And if none of that changes your mind, well, here’s this: They’re a tiny percentage of the US population. Even if you hate them so much it gives you a forehead vein, there are fewer of them than there are homosexuals.

        In short, you will pull my Jewish doctors from my cold dead hands.

        If Jews stayed being doctors and stuck to the hard sciences and wholesome entertainment, that’d be fine. It’s when they become politicians (all Jewish Congresscritters except Eric Cantor are Democrat) and social scientists (as in the universities, causing the Generation of ’68 and all that), plus the Bolshevik Revolution, that they cause all kinds of damage.

        And for the record, there are plenty of white non-Jews out there I despise even more.

        The bottom line is this: People with high IQ should not be doing everything they can to tear down civilization. Many of those who have, for whatever reason, have been Jewish. Smart people have a certain responsibility, a noblesse oblige, to leave things better than when they found them, since the low-IQ masses do not have the capability to do so.

        The final point is this: anti-Semitism is a reaction of a society’s immune system. It calls for introspection, rather than for a pathological Amen Corner smackdown that you and NiteLily have been going for. Jews as a whole tend to have a victimhood complex and an inability to recognize that they themselves have been doing things that screw up civilization.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 10:18 pm ABS

        40% of married Jewish men voted for Romney, so its a little more than NAJALT

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 12:55 pm Greg Eliot

        40% of married Jewish men voted for Romney, so its a little more than NAJALT

        And when their wives find out… oy vey!

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 5:37 pm NiteLily

        @corvinus

        “If, for the sake of argument, Jews as a whole shunned feminism in the 1960s, do you think it would have gone anywhere?”

        Who knows? Do the Jews have such powerful influence on the rest of the West? If they do, it’s only because Gentiles follow them and they are truly the flag bearers of Western Civilization in many aspects. Look, this could be true and I can’t totally refute it. The Greco-Roman world, which is the predecessor of our civilization was converted to Monotheism by a Jew. That means the powerful Greco-Roman world followed a Jew and his new religion, an offshoot of Judaism. More strange stuff, now much of Europe follows Marx, who was also a Jew, with Marxism and its various tentacles being the “new religion” of the West. So go figure; you might be right. Just be careful when you say this because in effect what you are saying is the Jews are way smarter than us and that’s why we follow them. While they are people of thought and philosophy – and genius – I think it’s we the Gentiles that actually made civilization work. We are the doers, if the Jews are the thinkers. I don’t think the Jews or us can live independent of each other. This reminds me of Noah’s Prophecy (and predictions) in Genesis – Shem the son form whom the Jews are descendants who received the gift of spirituality, and Japheth the son from whom the European nations are descendants who received the gifts of beauty and prosperity were blessed together and will not be separated (dwell in each other’s tents), while Ham the 3rd son from whom the 3rd world is descendent will be their servant.

        “And he said, Cursed be Canaan (Hams son); a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.

        And he said, Blessed be the Lord God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

        God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant” (Gen. 9:25-27).

        Why do I bring this? To show that even according to prophecy, the Semites and the Japhethites cannot be separated. Even if you don’t believe in God, you have to admit that this is interesting since indeed this is how it all unfolded in the last 2,000 years. “God shall enlarge Japheth,” means make him prosperous, and “he shall dwell in the tents of Shem,” means he shall dwell in Shem’s ideas and spirituality, as tents in Hebrew often meant houses of worship or study.

        In fact even Hitler of Germany knew this. He knew the Jews brought spirituality to the world, which he called “conscience for the soul.” He knows that “for reasons unknown to us poor mortals did not, with eternal and immutable resolve, desire the final victory of this little nation.”

        Here is the full quote:

        “The struggle for world domination is between me and the Jews. All else is meaningless. The Jews have inflicted two wounds on the world: Circumcision for the body and conscience for the soul. I come to free mankind from their shackles.

        When over long periods of human history I scrutinized the activity of the Jewish people, suddenly there arose up in me the fearful question whether inscrutable Destiny, perhaps for reasons unknown to us poor mortals, did not, with eternal and immutable resolve, desire the final victory of this little nation.” (Mein Kampf)

        “The Ten Commandments have lost their validity…Conscience is a Jewish invention. It is a blemish like circumcision…” (Herman Rauschning, Hitler Speaks)

        There is nothing greater than a human’s “conscience for the soul,” which was given to Shem’s progeny to teach the rest of mankind, yet Hitler wanted to destroy it and break the “shackles” that bind Shem and Japheth. Did he succeed? No. Do you think anyone is going to succeed? Not even the fucking lefties and the Jews among them who don’t understand Judaism’s role or care about humanity’s conscience. Not much difference between Hitler and lefties, even the Jewish ones.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 5:48 pm Greg Eliot

        Ah, NiteLily… hearsay is not admissible evidence… you should know that. Those quotes are from (alleged) Conversations With Hitler.

        To clarify, “Conversations With Hitler” (aka Voice of Destruction) was written by Rauschning after he left the Nazi party and became an outspoken critic of Hitler for the Allied cause. It is mostly, probably entirely, invented in its details and any specific quote is very unlikely to be authentic. But he did in fact know Hitler, and it was an attempt to convey Hitler’s world view. Though as it comes from someone who was opposed to the man and show him in the worst light possible, it’s not something to be used as a reliable source.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 6:02 pm Greg Eliot

        Further, here’s a correction of the alleged quote, not from Mein Kampf, but from another book by Rauschning:

        “The struggle for world domination will be fought entirely between us, between Germans and Jews. All else is facade and illusion. Behind England stands Israel, and behind France, and behind the United States. Even when we have driven the Jew out of Germany, he remains our world enemy.

        – Rauschning,Hitler Speaks,p. 234

        Certainly a different vibe than “me and the Jews”… yet a bit more believable, even if it is Rauschning’s hearsay.

        We could dissect the entirety of the alleged quotes, but the point is made.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 6:15 pm Greg Eliot

        Of course, what Hitler did or didn’t say doesn’t really matter, beyond academic interest, at this point.

        He and the NS are long gone, and many WNs decry him as vociferously as do the Jews, for the obvious destruction inflicted on the West at the time, and the aftermath, which daunts us to this day, as the West continues its decline.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 6:45 pm NiteLily

        @corvinus

        “And for the record, there are plenty of white non-Jews out there I despise even more.”

        OK, that doesn’t make you a classic anti-Semite. You hover in the middle. At least, you are willing to say that plenty of non-Jews are just as complicit and that makes you better than anyone of the anti-Jewish crowd here, who are absolutely atrocious by some of the stuff they hurl here.

        But the problem is that the moment there is some story about some feminist or someone from pop culture and they happen to be Jewish, so many anti-Jewish posts and beliefs begin to fly here declaring all Jews to be leftist or worse, the ruiners of Western Civilization, while the fanatics start calling them Satan’s children or the enemy of mankind.
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        “People with high IQ should not be doing everything they can to tear down civilization.”

        Agreed! BUT, common sense has nothing to do with being highly educated, and the Jews are also their worst enemy, like most Whites are. They might be intelligent book wise, but not street smart. Therefore, the same way they are “ruining” America, is the same way they are ruining their own People in Israel. These liberal Jews don’t support Israel in the least. In fact, they are at war with Israel because most Israelis are on the Right and don’t support lefty polices. Many Christians are better supports of the State of Israel than liberal Jews are. Liberal Jews and anti-Jewish Libertarians are equal in their disdain for Israel, if different in their reasoning.

        It’s an important distinction to make because they are “ruining” America not because they are Jewish. They are “ruining” America because their world view is lefty. Otherwise, if they treated Israel differently than their world view, then I can say you are right – they are ruining America because they are Jews and don’t care about America. But this is not the case as I just shown.
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        “People with high IQ should not be doing everything they can to tear down civilization. Smart people have a certain responsibility, a noblesse oblige, to leave things better than when they found them, since the low-IQ masses do not have the capability to do so.”

        I see what you are saying and it’s true, but before you only point the finger against Jews, why don’t you hold the Germans to the same standard? After all, they were the most advanced civilization on earth at the time, certainly most refined, educated, and cultured and yet look at what they have done? They committed mass murder and ruined Germany in the process, and if it weren’t for the kindness of America they would be finished.

        Therefore, the point again is that just like being highly educated doesn’t mean you’re street smart and have common sense, highly educated also doesn’t mean you are compassionate and have values and ethics. Basically, college education is beginning to be proven useless if all it yields is stupid idiotic lefties or evil maniacs who have no qualms about mass murder, eugenics, or population control, which implies that only Biblical values on which our civilization is established and on which pillars it stood for the last 2,000 years are the true way to freedom and democracy, love and compassion, and anyone, Jew or Gentile, that doesn’t support these values is doing harm to our civilization. And you don’t have to believe in God to support these values and to agree that they served us well over the generations. Pay attention, some of the greatest geniuses the world has ever known didn’t have a formal college education. In fact, since the middle of the 20th century no real discoveries have been made. Why? Because the western type of college education doesn’t create geniuses, just followers and community organizers that agitate the foolish masses with their false pedagogy. When was the last time we had an Isaac Newton or an Einstein?
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        “Jews as a whole tend to have a victimhood complex and an inability to recognize that they themselves have been doing things that screw up civilization.”

        Again, not Jews as a whole, liberal Jews who are as un self-aware as an inanimate object is. But that’s not surprising. Show me any liberal that has a clue about what’s going on in the world around him? He knows nothing; all he can tell you is how unequal things are, blah, blah, blah. He is a Stupid moron.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 7:28 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        Hopefully this won’t double-post, again.
        Seriously, what problem could you possibly have with Jews? Ashkenazi Jews have an average IQ of 115. And they share our cultural background. And their crime stats are pretty much zero.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 8:17 pm Starets

        Does that include financial crime?

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 9:29 pm NiteLily

        Financial crimes are committed by many non-Jews as well. Think about CountryWide and Angelo Mozilo with Senator Chris Dodd – both not Jews. Yet, a few Jews like Madoff and all of a sudden to a Jew hater like you all Jews are crooks.

        Amway, she meant violent crimes are pretty much zero. Most are committed by Blacks, Hispanics, and Whites (no Jews) in that order. Jews and Asians are almost zero in the violent crimes category. So she is right. Chew on that for a while, or learn to tell the truth.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 6:32 pm josh

        A)The 1865 Immigration Act. B)Michael Scott King C)1965 Civil Rights Act D) bombing of USS Liberty D)Marine Barracks E)I dont know maybe about a trillion dollars or so stolen from US to go to Israel;that stinking little cuntry founded by murderers and terrorists? If the cunt nitelily wants to quote Hitler so much,.how about his reflections on Israel:It will be a criminal mafia with all the protections of being a State. Hmm I guess he really screwed up there!!Oh and BTW F)9/11.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 7:00 pm NiteLily

        LOL! It always amuses me when I hear someone blaming Israel/Jews for 9/11, USS Liberty, and the rest of your junk, cuz right away I know with what kind of fruitcake I am dealing. You don’t even deserve a reply; that’s how absurd you are. Some of you are outdoing Eliot fast. I guess being miserable in your private lives translates itself into loser’s irrationality.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 3:23 pm Starets

        “and the rest of your junk, cuz right away I know with what kind of fruitcake I am dealing. You don’t even deserve a reply; that’s how absurd you are.”

        Now there is a well constructed, logical argument. In one post she refutes all opposition! lolz.

        Now, if only she was honest about not replying. Yet again.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 10:55 pm NiteLily

        Diomedes,

        Let’s put this back into its rightful context, please.

        Menachem Begin said this after the holocaust, after his people were cruelly murdered and gassed and chopped by a people supposedly most advanced, most educated, and most refined on the whole planet, the German people. So yes, between the Jews and the Germans, I’d say the Jews are the Angels of God and the Germans are Satan (channeling Eliot). Anyway, you’d say the same thing if it were your people, and in fact you are saying it right now, just a little bit more subtly and your people have not been chopped to pieces. So who has more right to say it, Menachem Begin or you? I’d say Begin.

        BTW, after the elections I was mad as hell and I even used some nasty words against Blacks, because I was very resentful that 98% of them voted for Obama. Therefore, I’m not surprised by what Menachem Begin said being a holocaust survivor.

        And as far as you calling him a terrorists, I beg to differ with you. I guess you are British, because only they are resentful of the Irgun and call it a terrorist group, yet their media calls the Arab homicide bombers freedom fighters. The Irgun is the freedom fighter, not the Arabs homicide bombers.

        The British struck a deal with the Jews called the Belfour declaration in 1917, did you forget that? The British refused to stick to the deal and return The Land of Israel back to its rightful owners, the Jews. The only way for the Jews to oust the British was to fight them and they did. Some of these Jews were partisans fighting the Nazis with the Russians. They knew the only way to get the British out is to declare war like they did on the Germans. That’s what the Kind David Hotel was about. Deir Yassin Massacre ? Now you are just throwing insults at him. It was committed by Christian Lebanese. Anti-Sematic much?

        I’m of Anglo heritage and yet I know the British were wrong in this instance. The British are not of clean hands. Let’s not forget what they have done to the Irish and the Scots. Yet, the British also did lots of good around the world and thanks God for them. But sometimes, like all other empires, they made mistakes. Israel is one of them.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 1:02 pm Diomedes

        P.S. Post pic and you’ll be told whether you can make it in my Joy Division.

        There’s an Obergruppenführer get-up in my bunker that has got many a Jewess wet and wild.

        8===================D

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 2:51 pm Arkan

        Keep thinking that, cunt. My people detained the Jews because they found themselves in the stranglehold of world Jewry. The Jewish communist parties (read about the planned secession of Bavaria) intended to tear Germany apart while bleeding us dry, financially. If it wasn’t for the NSDAP, millions of my ancestors would have been killed by Jewish butchers like it happened in the Ukraine, the northern Caucasus, Siberia and other parts of the Soviet Union.

        Jews are the archnemesis of all European races. They resent us, even puny, stupid Zionistwhores like you. To ally yourself with the Jews means that not only you become an an enemy of the white races, but of mankind.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 4:25 pm NiteLily

        @ Arkan

        “To ally yourself with the J means that not only you become an enemy of the white races, but of mankind.”

        No let me re-word it for you, my Nazi pagan:

        To ally yourself with the J means that you ally yourself with God, because they are his people. Many empires went up against them and they all lost, and lost BIG. The J still stand; they are the eternal people. You try to destroy them and you too will perish. God always fights for them. Can’t you see the trends of history? You can’t destroy them, now go foam at the mouth.

        There is a famous story in which the Kaiser asks Bismarck, “Can you prove the existence of God?” Bismarck replies, “The J, your majesty. The J.”

        Some of the stuff you hurl at them is beyond the pale of accepted decency. You make shit up as if it’s going out of business. You and your friends pick and choose statements from here and there and stich together a hateful quilt of lies meant to thwart the truth. Some of us love the truth more than anything else on this God’s Green Earth and will fight for it because the moment truth disappears from humanity’s conscience, a madman like H or like you and your friends will take over and push us into the Dark Ages of humanity. Some of us won’t let this country become Germany. Fuck off!

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 4:26 pm NiteLily

        Diomedes , What’s your Joy Division?

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 4:29 pm NiteLily

        Diomedes, don’t answer that.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 12:42 pm JumboBeef

        >To ally yourself with the J means that you ally yourself with God, because they are his people. Many empires went up against them and they all lost, and lost BIG. The J still stand; they are the eternal people. You try to destroy them and you too will perish. God always fights for them.

        Now you can have your say that Nitelily is looking for Joos Cock in Chateau but can’t find one with all the Nat Zees here, Whore lily i have a better proposal go and bang your head on the Jerusalem wall, maybe then you could find a Joos beta boy there, if still the Joos don’t want to BANG you, You can count on many of us Nat Zees here to take your virginity (if you have a vajayjay and it is intact).

        One thing that bothers me is why these Joo Loving women Rap Daughter and Nitelily are bound to “waste” their “precious” time to have a conversation with all the “Hitler” hugging dudes here, Care to point out that WHORELILY, what is the purpose of you a Joo ass rimming whore wants from us Nat zees here?

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      • on January 14, 2013 at 1:36 am K(yle)

        “To ally yourself with the J means that you ally yourself with God, because they are his people.”

        This is heresy.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 5:51 pm corvinus

        FYI, she isn’t giving her bad advice because she is Jewish. She is giving her bad advice because she is a liberal and that’s what they think. You really are a stupid moron.

        As if there is absolutely no correlation between the two…

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 5:55 pm Scott

        NAJALT

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 6:09 pm thwack

        Jiberal = Jewish Liberal

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 6:40 pm corvinus

        Yeah, I know. But being an ardent anti-anti-Semite or anti-racist is, if anything, weirder than being a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews because it goes against one’s own biological instincts. If NiteLily was Jewish herself, I’d cut her some slack.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 6:18 pm NiteLily

        @ corvinus,

        None, because not all Jews are liberal. This is a fallacious argument to try to justify your hatred of Jews. I see your true colors shining through.

        But haven’t we been there before? Didn’t we prove already that not all Jews are liberal?

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 8:54 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        NiteLily, I keep trying to weigh in on this in your defense, and my replies keep getting eaten.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 9:14 pm NiteLily

        Me too. I think most of us are being delayed. Just post it and it will show later.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 5:51 am Anonymous

        http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2007/12/why-i-am-not-libertarian.html

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 11:11 am Anonymous

        “As if there is absolutely no correlation between the two…”

        “None, because not all Jews are liberal.”

        You’re so cute thinking you know what “correlation” means. That’s a big girl word.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 6:52 pm Hyperborean

        Conservatives always attempt to treat the symptoms instead of striking at the source of the disease.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 6:56 pm NiteLily

        So the Jews are the source of the disease then? See why I hate Libertarians? They are all retarded.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 9:15 pm Hyperborean

        You hate libertarians, yet your hyper-indivdualistic thinking is the corner stone of libertarian ideology. Although libertarians are a step ahead of conservatives, i feel contempt for them both. My anti-semitism is of the NS variety.

        The Good Jews/Bad Jews argument is a marxist ruse designed to keep white men from identifying their deep enemy. William Pierce debunks it in this video. Watch it before you continue to patronize us with your shallow thinking.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 9:18 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        No, we’re not, NiteLily. We support personal freedom in balance with personal responsibility. You and I have more in common than you know.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 9:21 pm Hyperborean

        Here is another good one.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 10:23 pm NiteLily

        My thinking is not shallow. I do circles around you, idiot. You don’t even rise to my knees in mental abilities.

        You’re jealous and envious, that’s it. You have nothing to offer, so you look at the Jews as if they took from you what is rightfully yours, yet they took nothing. Same type of thinking promulgated by H and his cohorts in the 1930’s in order to make the Germans feel better about their sorry self. No difference between him or you, and your minions posting their anti-Semitic crap on this blog. God forbid people like you turn this country into another Germany.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 11:34 pm NiteLily

        @ RappaccinisDaughter

        “We support personal freedom in balance with personal responsibility. You and I have more in common than you know.”

        I am beginning to see that. I was going to tell Jason that too. I’m beginning to see that my world view is a lot more in line with reasonable people than with my own type, as they start spewing hate and refusing to show any type of tolerance or compassion. People like Zombie Shane, Matt King, and Eliot etc…

        You have no idea how much I value personal freedom. Everything our Constitution is based on is freedom to choose. This is based on God’s Law of Free Will. We must each choose (not forced) right or wrong, good or bad, and be judged on our choices by Him after we have lived out our entire life. It’s not up to an H-like personality to massacre people in the name of his creed or religion, like Eliot is trying to justify.

        Freedom is the basis of our society. Freedom to choose, freedom to make mistakes, freedom to succeed and freedom to fail. Just like God doesn’t interfere until you lived your entire life and he judges you, the State should not interfere, or control, or level the playing field. This is the true meaning of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. It doesn’t mean everyone is equal or must be made equal by the State. It means we are born with an equal opportunity and right to pursue happiness or success. Because the moment the State tries to equalize everyone it has to take rights form one and transfers it to another, it has to pick favorites, and it has to tamper and meddle in private affairs, and this makes everything unequal again. The state should never temper or pick favorites. The state belongs to all of us. Therefore, it should stay out of the competition.

        As per our Constitution, man is a free being; his rights are not derived from the government but from the Creator or the Natural Law, if you will. God created him in his image and thus free, not subservient to any other man or the State. And even if you don’t believe in God, surely you can see how bowing to the State or to other men’s will diminish the majesty of the person. You must believe you are a special creation to understand that your rights don’t come from other men or a State that doesn’t necessarily have your best interest at heart. Your rights come from a higher source – the Creator or the Natural Law.

        Therefore, I refuse to accept these imbecilic Libertarians trying to destroy our Constitution and what it stands for. They are no better than the liberals that try to revise it. Trust me on this one, RappaccinisDaughter, people like Eliot have no use for the Constitution; he never once mentioned it. His type of government is H’s Germany – murder and mayhem.

        I believe in free will and personal freedom, no question about it.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 6:49 pm Hyperborean

        “You’re jealous and envious, that’s it. You have nothing to offer, so you look at the Jews as if they took from you what is rightfully yours, yet they took nothing. Same type of thinking promulgated by H and his cohorts in the 1930’s in order to make the Germans feel better about their sorry self. No difference between him or you, and your minions posting their anti-Semitic crap on this blog. God forbid people like you turn this country into another Germany.”

        Another lemming parrots the marxist script her television has taught her, and then pats herself on the back for being so enlightened, and morally superior to any who don’t conform to their Kosher worldview.

        The white mans inability to identify his hereditary enemy will be his undoing.

        Watching the white masses willingly collaborate in their own genocide while defending the tribe that is perpetrating it, at times makes me feel they deserve the extinction that surely awaits them.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 7:24 pm Hyperborean

        “My thinking is not shallow. I do circles around you, idiot. You don’t even rise to my knees in mental abilities.”

        Nor in hubris apparently.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 7:52 pm NiteLily

        @Hyperborean

        “Nor in hubris apparently.”

        I don’t say this because I am arrogant. Not at all. I say this because anyone who puts these idiotic videos here and listens to demented anti-J conspiracy theories has to be mentally defunct.

        ”yet your hyper-indivdualistic thinking is the corner stone of libertarian ideology.”

        No, it’s not libertarian ideology. It’s Constitutionalist ideology. Read my comment above yours.

        Stick to the Constitution as it’s written, or maybe you hate it like everything else with a conscience.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 9:06 pm Hyperborean

        “Stick to the Constitution as it’s written, or maybe you hate it like everything else with a conscience.”

        The Constitution as written has failed along with the political system it was designed to protect. It is failing because the Enlightenment thinking it is distilled from,and which you espouse, is in opposition to the iron laws of nature which reward strength and hierarchy.

        Returning to the constitution isn’t going to fix America because it doesn’t address the corrupt values that are creating the rot. One of the reasons Nationalists are critical of the Chosen tribe is because they bear a large responsibility for bringing about this inversion of organic values.

        Overcoming the psychological conditioning that inhibits us from thinking critically about them is one of most difficult and alienating experiences an individual can go through, which is why most people choose to swallow the blue pill and remain politically correct conservatives.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 2:10 pm NiteLily

        @Hyperborean

        “The Constitution as written has failed along with the political system it was designed to protect. It is failing because the Enlightenment thinking it is distilled from, and which you espouse, is in opposition to the iron laws of nature which reward strength and hierarchy.”

        Wow! Wow! Wow! You give me Goosebumps. Do you know why? Because I have figured you out. I knew it. You hate the Constitution just like the lefties do but for different reasons. No one would believe me if I told them about people who think like your group, no one. I need to find a name for you, unless you are Neo-Nazis, White Supremacist or Aryan Nation???? Same shit.

        I often said Lefties and White Supremacist want the same thing, but for different reasons The Lefties hate the Constitutions because it is an obstacle in their way. It stops them from developing all their stupid social policy and turning the country into a socialist society. On the other hand, White Supremacist and their ilk hate the Constitution because it is a document with a conscience. Hitler much?

        The Constitutions gives people rights that came from the Creator or the Natural Law. Despots and Governments can’t take those rights. White Supremacist would like to take those rights and give it only to Aryans.

        “in opposition to the iron laws of nature which reward strength and hierarchy.” Here we go……this is Hitler 101. Strength and hierarchy is all he cared about. Judeo-Christian values which are the bedrock of the Constitution and on which our civilization existed for 2,000 years, doesn’t believe only the strong have rights. It believes the human conscience (the spirit, the part connected to God) must trump the human body (the bodily urges and the part connected to this world), otherwise only the strong have rights and we’re nothing but animals.

        Of course, in the Nazi philosophy Man is nothing but animal and he should behave exactly like them. In fact, some of the Nazis even believed that humans should consume other weaker humans. After all, animals eat each other all the time, so why not humans? The Germans have great philosophies, don’t they?

        “Returning to the constitution isn’t going to fix America because it doesn’t address the corrupt values that are creating the rot.”

        Oh yes it does. If our politicians stuck to it they could stop all the garbage going on.

        “which is why most people choose to swallow the blue pill and remain politically correct conservatives.”

        Conservative are not PC. They like the Constitution. The Constitution is not PC. And what are you? A pagan? A Nazi? A fascist? A eugenicist? A murderer? A mass murders? An anarchist? All of the above?

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 3:00 pm NiteLily

        “Another lemming parrots the marxist script her television has taught her, and then pats herself on the back for being so enlightened, and morally superior to any who don’t conform to their Kosher worldview.”

        Of course, I am morally superior. For that I will take credit.

        And I will repeat again that you have a deep hatred for the tribe ONLY because you’re jealous of them. Otherwise, what could possible occupy you so much about them? Why are you so fixated and can’t move on with your life? Why are you so obsessed? Hitler was obsessed with them until his hatred for them destroyed him too. It pains me to say it, but you will be destroyed too. Your feelings are not normal. You are a mad man.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 4:00 pm Lara

        Hyperborean,
        Who are you to presume you know what’s best for everyone else? You sound very arrogant to me.

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      • on January 12, 2013 at 10:41 pm Hyperborean

        @Nitelily

        “And what are you? A pagan? A Nazi? A fascist? A eugenicist”

        Yes, i identify with all of thee above. Your attempts to shame me are wasted, i feel no need to apologize; as i have seen through the propaganda and lies which seek to demonize the right, and the approval of the herd means nothing to me.

        “Of course, in the Nazi philosophy Man is nothing but animal and he should behave exactly like them.”

        National Socialists believed man is part of nature and subject to the same iron laws that all other life is bound to. They understood that modern man is suffering from hubris in believing he has conquered nature, and that in believing such folly we are likely to destroy ourselves.

        “In fact, some of the Nazis even believed that humans should consume other weaker humans. After all, animals eat each other all the time, so why not humans? The Germans have great philosophies, don’t they?”

        WTF? Listening to you recite the Marxist tropes is tedious enough, but you are truly pulling this shit out of your ass now.

        “The Germans have great philosophies, don’t they?”

        German is considered the language of philosophy, but thats most likely just a coincidence. Kant, Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, Spengler were all just super jealous haters motivated by a deep inferiority complex.

        Since you are clearly so well informed regarding the principles of National Socialism and the western philosophical tradition, i must defer to your enlightened wisdom. Good day.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 10:09 pm Starets

        @Corvinus

        “If NiteLily was Jewish herself, I’d cut her some slack.”

        Do you really believe that she isn’t?

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 6:04 pm Anon

        Did someone dare type the word “Jew” in 2013 ?

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 9:37 pm NiteLily

        Not you sweet pea; you only care about one thing, forgot?

        Keep it that way. It makes you a lot more interesting and mysterious than the average anti-Semite looking to unload his crackpot of shit. Watch Matt king try to rationalize my meaning now. LOL! I can see him walking over from across the room……..

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 2:28 pm Anon

        I don’t use an email address.
        And I’m not the only anon in here.

        Focus, woman.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 7:26 pm NiteLily

        Sounded like something the usual Anon would say. Haha…lol

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      • on January 13, 2013 at 6:23 pm aleister

        please, someone ban this idiot already! (nightlillyshit)

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 6:59 pm Zombie Shane

        FYI, she isn’t giving her bad advice because she is Jewish.

        Jesus H Christ, do we have to suffer through jew propaganda even at the Chateau?

        I thought this was supposed to be the Dark Enlightenment here.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 7:28 pm Diomedes

        At a certain point you have to call a spade a spade.

        While religious Jews (see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dSHl3C9kgY and http://www.youtube.com/user/zionget?feature=watch) are, on the whole, upstanding people; every aspect that we criticise for contributing to the Decline of the West can be traced back to a secular Jew.

        Keep in mind that with this woman that while she spouts this PC and silly bollocks she is telling her daughters that if they ever dare to bring home a black they will be a shame to themselves, their family, the Jewish people and Elie Wiesel.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 9:11 pm NiteLily

        “every aspect that we criticise for contributing to the Decline of the West can be traced back to a secular Jew.”

        Wrong! Let’s reword this and fix the typo (unless you’re British):

        “Every aspect that we criticize for contributing to the Decline of the West can be traced back to a liberal/lefty.” Some of these lefties are Jewish and some are just white Anglo-Saxons/Europeans. Yet, they all think alike.

        Liberalism took hold in the West, including many countries where the Jews are nil in numbers, and yet they have the same retarded policies, even worse in some places in Europe. Therefore, you can’t blame it only on Jews. You have to blame it on lefties who come in all shades and sizes and influence all Western societies. If you’re blaming it solely on the Jews, your beliefs are based on an irrational hatred of them and therefore can’t be taken seriously.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 12:30 am Diomedes

        “The main facets of early liberal ideology in Britain emerged against the backdrop of [the English Civil War.]” (From Wikipedia’s page on liberalism.)

        Fernandez Carvajal, a Jew, and the powerful Jewish bankers of Amsterdam (Manasseh Ben Israel the key figure) financed and supported Cromwell. The civil war also led to the re-admittance of Jews to England (who had been thrown out by Edward I after a number of high profile child murder cases) and the creation of The Bank of England. Everything above can be verified by picking up a book on the period and/or searching for documents (letters to and from Cromwell are readily available).

        ‘Liberalism’ however is a term too vague to make use of. Marxism is the key word. And, as you should know, Marx was a Jew and the ideology is inherently Jewish in origin. This is why so many Jews have since latched onto it. Of course, you do not have to be a Jew to follow some sort of marxism, but it does help.

        “Liberalism took hold in the West, including many countries where the Jews are nil in numbers.”

        If you are going to make statements you have to back them up. As far as I am aware this is not true. One might cite Napoleon as he was the first to coin the term ‘liberal,’ but Napoleon did not practice [i]liberalism[/i]. France later did but that was after Bonaparte’s emancipation of the Jews.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 8:27 pm Starets

        And here’s the Hasbara Rapid Reaction Force, right on cue.

        Lets all pay attention as they convince us that up is down, black is white, lies are truth.

        We wouldn’t want to be thought-criminals, would we?

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 8:34 pm Greg Eliot

        For the record, it wasn’t me who mentioned it… one would think that even a stupid moron could read the first post of a subthread to which she would screech.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 8:38 pm NiteLily

        But you jumped on it like white on rice, instead of letting it go. All you do is search for someone that shares your screwed up views and off you go on tangent. You think there is safety in numbers. So pitiful.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 9:00 pm Greg Eliot

        I, going off on a tangent…. LLLOZOZOZOZOZOZOZLZLZLZLZLZLZLZ.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 9:23 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        You’re wrong on this, Greg Eliot; you’re wrong on the Jews. Accept it. Accept it the way I had to accept that most of the women who call themselves “feminists” these days are wrong, despite the fact that I’m a woman and I really like my autonomy.

        Yeah, a lot of them are liberal. It’s because they’ve been persecuted–really persecuted, as in 6,000,000 dead, not that somebody told them they’d have to pay for their own birth control–and they identify with other people who either are, were, or claim to be, persecuted.

        But not all of them are liberal. Many of them are quite conservative. Have you ever heard of JPFO?

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 10:13 pm NiteLily

        Rapp, you got it. They have been persecuted and that’s why they identify with people who seem to be in that boat too, whether it’s true or perceived. One thing about them I have discovered is that they are very compassionate people, and that’s almost a common denominator to them whether they are liberal of conservative. Unfortunately, sometimes they give compassion to the underserving. That’s why you see them speaking out about equality. But they are not evil, just misguided, as many other Whites are.

        Also, as you said, many, many of them are conservative. But he doesn’t care, cuz he hates them no matter what. Every time someone mentions all the inventions and discoveries made by them he refuses to acknowledge it, which is why I say his hate is too irrational. Many of them are geniuses, and that irks him even more. You have no idea how his hate knows no bounds. If he could, he’d be H right-arm man and carry out his will; he’ll have no qualms about it, and that’s from the Bible-quoting lunatic/fanatic that he is.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 10:24 pm corvinus

        Many of them are quite conservative. Have you ever heard of JPFO?

        Certainly. They’re one reason you can’t actually call me an anti-Semite. Oops, you did earlier. Ha.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 11:37 pm Greg Eliot

        You’re wrong on this, Greg Eliot; you’re wrong on the Jews. Accept it.

        I’m confused as to how I suddenly bear the brunt of accusation that I “hate all Jews”.

        I’ve made it abundantly clear on more than one occasion that I, like Jesus in His time, delineate between the “regular guy” just going about his business versus the macher (Pharisee and Sanhedrin of His time… media, finance, PAC moguls of today) who wields undue influence and seeks to corrupt.

        The reading comprehension around here, among the self-styled intelligent, would be a disgrace to the Aborigine race.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 12:35 am NiteLily

        Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership (JPFO), say the Second Amendment is biblically based.

        “Exodus 13:10 tells us that, “The Israelites were well armed when they left Egypt.” On this verse, Nachmanides explains that the right to arms is a characteristic of free men, saying the Jewish nation “did not go out looking like fleeing slaves, but went out as an independent people that could be armed.””

        Jewish tradition supports a “right to bear arms,” and the training to use them, as characteristics of a free people. We also have ethical obligations for self-defense and protecting the lives of our fellows. Judaism’s nuanced view balances the right, and even the need, for weapons ownership with the safety prescriptions necessary to assure that the innocent are protected. Sometimes, furthering peace and preventing violence require the weapons necessary to root out that violence.”

        For all the Jewish feminists you guys like to jump on, Sandra S. Froman is a past President of the National Rifle Association of America.
        And lets not forget:
        Mark Levin (radio commentator and writer, one of my favorites), David Horowitz (conservative writer and commentator), Rabbi Daniel Lapin (very conservative pro-property rights, anti-Obama).

        There are many Jewish conservatives as Rapp points out. Not all Jews are lefty.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 12:37 am NiteLily

        Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership
        http://jpfo.org/

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 12:48 am Diomedes

        RappaccinisDaughter – you lost me at 6 million.

        2013 and STIILL believing in the gas chamber myth? Methinks the red-pill is a tough one to swallow.

        To recap:

        – There is no forensic evidence in support of mass extermination by National Socialist Germany.
        – There is no documentation suggesting an extermination program. In fact the documentation available suggests something different. (Relocation.)
        – All evidence of an extermination program and gas chambers comes from ‘witness testimony’ and confessions made under torture.

        Don’t take my word for it? Many of the leading scholars of the Holocaust have stated on record, that the actual evidence to prove the Nazis operated homicidal gas chambers, is virtually non-existent.

        “Sources for the study of the gas chambers are at once rare and unreliable. Most of what is known is based on the depositions of Nazi officials and executioners at postwar trials and on the memory of survivors and bystanders. This testimony must be screened carefully, since it can be influenced by subjective factors of great complexity.
        “In the meantime, there is no denying the many contradictions, ambiguities, and errors in the existing sources.”
        Why Did the Heavens Not Darken?: The “Final Solution” in History
        By Arno J. Mayer.

        “there was a Holocaust, which is, by the way,
        more easily said than demonstrated.”

        Is There a New Anti-Semitism? A Conversation with Raul Hilberg
        Logos Journal. Volume 6 – Issue one-two

        “The consequence of the absence of any overt documentary evidence of gas chambers at these camps, coupled with the lack of archaeological evidence, means that reliance has to be placed on eye witness and circumstantial evidence.”
        Justice Gray, the judge at the 2000 Irving vs. Penguin & Lipstadt trial,

        “most of the memoirs and reports are full of preposterous verbosity, graphomanic exaggeration, dramatic effects, overestimated self-inflation, dilettante philosophizing, would-be lyricism, unchecked rumors, bias, partisan attacks and apologies.”
        Prussian Jewish historian Samuel Gringauz, himself a camp survivor, and Chairman of the
        Council of the Central Committee Of Liberated Jews In The American Zone of German.

        No one who is “red-pill” could accept there was a ‘holocaust’ after looking into the topic in any depth. ‘Holocaust’ means burnt-offering in Greek. The only [i]holocausts[/i] of WW2 were Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

        I am always happy to have my viewpoint shattered, so if anyone can provide anything contrary feel free to drop your e-mail and I’ll be in touch.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 12:45 pm Greg Eliot

        “most of the memoirs and reports are full of preposterous verbosity, graphomanic exaggeration, dramatic effects, overestimated self-inflation, dilettante philosophizing, would-be lyricism, unchecked rumors, bias, partisan attacks…”

        Uncanny… was he writing about the Holocaust or the posts on this forum from our resident agent provocateur?

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 2:54 pm Matthew King (King A)

        I am 100% with NiteLily and RappacinisDaughter on this one. Enough is enough with the Jew baiting. Let’s face it: we can use a more sensitive disposition sometimes.

        Just because feminism is wrong doesn’t mean a feminine approach is always wrong, and, to be dead honest, it sometimes takes women to keep us from going over the edge.

        Matt

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 3:02 pm Greg Eliot

        Ugh… now I know how that little kid felt when he approached Joe Jackson after the Black Sox Scandal broke. 😦

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 3:50 pm Matthew King (King A)

        Of course I’m just kidding. Baiting, even.

        This above thread is an example par excellence of women invading a men’s club and energetically attempting to reset the parameters of conversation to fit their sensibilities. And every female interloper added increases their dudgeon by an exponent.

        See, the sassy female “I Come Bearing Truth” attitude just doesn’t fly here. It doesn’t matter what lessons they genuinely have to teach us, they have forgotten their place. Check the rules at the door to this club, one of which is, women must speak deferentially. Because if you don’t, you are treated like the uppity slot you appear to be. We get enough of that unearned superior attitude from the culture at large. So much that it is not unreasonable to prevent encroachment through draconian (and unfair) limits on female rhetoric here. This forum is a refuge.

        These women often speak the right language, but their actions betray a deep belief of female equality in their bones. They are attention-whoring disruptions, and what little they contribute to the pursuit of truth is swallowed up by their attempt to establish equal privileges in a community gathered for the specific rejection of those privileges.

        Men speak to men in a sporting manner, not a sensitivity-driven one. Manly communication is filled with challenges, jabs, mockery, invective, and yes, shockingly vulgar language. Even forbidden language, like nigger. Our rhetoric is one of testing: unload the best you’ve got and see what withstands the test and still remains amid the ruins in the end.

        Read Steve Sailer’s précis again and again until you get it. It is a revolutionary read on the condition of poor communication between the sexes.

        Women, and their feminine-male imitators, seek an orderly exchange of ideas with feelings the paramount concern, above honesty and even above effective communication. Comity over truthseeking.

        The two women here are concerned with how crude we’ll appear to our enemies, and that is reason enough to employ euphemism and soft rhetoric with rounded edges. This hand-wringing about appearance leads them to an ideology of acceptance rather than criticism and challenge. Truth is secondary.

        The deeper delusion is what’s truly troubling: in their attempt at establishing a sensitivity-driven discourse, they begin to believe they are promulgating the truth. They will automatically categorize anyone offering a contrary position as secretly hateful. In that automation they skip over the most important part of inquiry: regardless of the speaker’s motives, is what he says truthful or not? But in female discourse, the very idea of taking certain outré ideas seriously so as to discern their truth content seems sinful, contributive to “hate,” and unacceptably callous toward others’ sensitivities.

        I am not overly interested in the Jewspiracys, and I don’t care about what my enemies think of my word selection, much less the propriety of certain ideas. I only care to hear the case, if anyone’s got one. I want it all laid out before me without filters, spin, or protection for my innocent eyes/ears. Then I will be able to separate the wheat from the chaff myself. So stop trying to protect the world from rhetoric that spooks you.

        It’s what the liberals used to call “open-mindedness,” before that term — like the eventual fate of all terms on the left — began connoting the opposite of its original meaning or the plainest reading of the words.

        I return to this forum because it is one of the few that allows a freewheeling marketplace of ideas. The strongest ones emerge from the cacophony, which is why CH has sustained a unique voice among so many fools and sophists.

        Above we see just how women cannot help but operate. No resentment here — chicks are chicks, and I don’t want them to become men like Chastity/Chaz Rappacini. But when they don’t defer — indeed when they show no understanding of the need for female deference in a male place — they will have to be beaten down. The harsher the better. Even in the instances where they otherwise ideologically agree with us.

        Matt

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 4:28 pm Greg Eliot

        Phew, that was close… I got scared there fer a minnit.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 10:07 am Jumbobeef

        +1 Matt, finally we agree on something.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 7:19 pm Tertullian

        This is the first King A (Matthew King) post I completely agree with.

        “This forum is a refuge.”

        Well done. I tip my battered Stalhelm in salute.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 7:24 pm Greg Eliot

        (((Stahlhelm bump)))

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 9:58 pm moses

        This thread has quickly degenerated into cartoonish positions — “Jew Haters” and “Jew Boosters.” The reality is more nuanced.

        There is no doubt that Jews are a talented race. They have contributed a great deal to science, the arts and business. Humanity is better off from their contributions.

        There is also compelling evidence that, as a group, Jews have a higher average propensity for avarice, especially with respect to non-Jews. I cite
        Deuteronomy 23:20 — “You may charge a foreigner interest, but not a brother Israelite, so that the LORD your God may bless you in everything you put your hand to in the land you are entering to possess.”

        These beliefs — i ) that there is one standard for how Israelites treat each other and then another, lower standard for how Israelites treat non-Israelites, and ii) Israelites are destined to take land from others because they are chosen by G-d to rule — appear again and again and again in the Old Testament. (I have not yet read the Talmud so can’t comment on it.)

        I believe these twin beliefs (again, I am talking population means and standard distributions, NOT individuals) and the behaviors they spawn interacting with non-Jews have contributed materially to persecution of Jews throughout history. As far as I know, Jews are the only ethic group to have been thrown out of country after country, sometimes multiple times.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 11:18 pm moses

        It’s pretty tough to have a serious, intellectual discussion on the interwebz without devolving into caricature positions.

        Here’s my take on the topic in this thread.

        Jews are a highly intelligent, creative and driven race who have made great contributions to humanity in arts, science and business. They have been a force for good in many ways.

        However, Jews have a belief system that pretty much guarantees conflict with other races.

        Exhibit A is Deuteronomy 23:30: “You may charge a foreigner interest, but not a brother Israelite, so that the LORD your G-d may bless you in everything you put your hand to in the land you are entering to possess.”

        This quote captures a material — perhaps main — source of friction between Jews and non-Jews, namely 1) that Jews tend to have one standard with each other and another, lower standard for non-Jews (who are lesser) and, 2) Jewish identity rests with their belief that they are G-d’s chosen and destined to rule (or exterminate) other races. These twin themes appear in the Old Testament again and again and again. (I haven’t read the Talmud yet.)

        Combine these beliefs with high intelligence and exceptional aptitude in business and what do you think is going to happen? Yep – friction and conflict as non-Jews figured out that the Jews in their midst were giving them a raw deal on top of viewing them as “foreigners” in the non-Jews’ own homeland.

        Mormons are similar ethnic group in several ways — a completely different religion, very successful in business and have suffered past persecution for their beliefs. Yet they don’t inspire the same feelings as Jews do. Also, as far as I know Jews are the only race to have been expelled from country after country, sometimes multiple times. I suspect the belief system captured by Deuteronomy 23:30 is a large part of explaining why.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 3:54 pm taterearl

      Inbreeding does have such good consequences.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 12:22 am the fauvist

        It worked for the great civilizations of history so it’s safe to say it’s not a bad thing.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 3:55 pm Greg Eliot

      NAACALT

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 4:28 pm thwack

      Steve
      Another European-American whore, destroying her ethnicity, her race. She doesn’t give a damn about tens of thousands of years of heritage and dna.
      ————————————————————–

      OK,

      but how do you account for taking that same attitude towards a 50 year old white woman, with 3 grown WHITE children who gets divorced and marries a younger black man with a good job and a house?

      I saw this happen to a friend of mine. Theres only 8 good black men in the entire United States and this 50 year old pale mess got one of them.

      And her family rejected the marriage.

      Does her family not realize how lucky she was?

      This bag of wrinkles won the lottery; she got divorced at 50 and married a very single Obama type black man…

      and her family didn’t approve?

      What in the blue fuck is that about?

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 5:13 pm Hugh G. Rection

        What do you call a black guy flying an airplane?

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 8:32 pm Greg Eliot

        The jig is up?

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 10:13 pm AW

        Ha!!!

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 5:52 pm doclove

        I call the Black guy who married a divorcee women with 3 children a beta if not an omega

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 6:25 pm anononononno

        I think one of the reasons why cougarism is theoretically possible is the high garbage tolerance of most teenage boys (not to mention the horrible stereotypes of certain folks). So, it works out well for both sides.

        Hmm, the high pain tolerance, non-gag reflex would also explain lesbian bed death, aging, crew-cut couples too.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 8:59 pm obsessivecakedisorder

        Cougarism is an expected response to, and result of, feminism. Nothing more, nothing less.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 10:02 pm Confederate Girl

        Lucky she was to be with a subhuman ape with retard-level intelligence? i wouldn’t call that lucky

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 11:42 pm thwack

        Confederate Girl
        Lucky she was to be with a subhuman ape
        ———————————–

        ” a subhuman ape?”

        hmmmm….? Im having a difficult time getting my tiny negro mind around this concept?

        Do you mean a simian?

        because by definition, a “subhueman ape” would have to be a white person.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 6:37 pm casaanova

      “Another European-American whore, destroying her ethnicity, her race. “

      No such thing, you idiot fuck. Everybody has African DNA somewhere in their family tree, and the real funny thing is the more “hick” & ‘southern’ you are, the more recent the ancestry is

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 7:04 pm Hyperborean

        More proof that even the liberal lemmings are subconsciously racist.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 8:39 pm Greg Eliot

        Niger, please. The African DNA of which you yiddle and the negro miscegenation under discussion are horses of a different colour.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 8:47 pm casaanova

        You’re an idiot. Try being supremacist off of the internet

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 9:05 pm Greg Eliot

        Actually, you’re the idiot, attempting to peddle the same PC agitprop that’s been trod underfoot so many times here at the chateau.

        Follow along in the playbook if you want to join the game.

        Or are you merely another of those interminable cogdis agents? Geez, it’s getting so we’re going to have to start keeping a scorecard.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 12:29 am the fauvist

        It’s not PC to approach ethnicity in a rational manner. In fact, it’s just bad argumentation to assert that what you’re speaking of (approaching race realistically instead of emotionally as you do) is the same as the PC mindset (which is to deny that ethnicity matters at all, which is another thing entirely). Evidence, I’d say, of a badly-arranged worldview on your part.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 12:33 am Greg Eliot

        Next.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 12:27 am the fauvist

        Sounds like excuse-making to me, probably because it is. Trying to pick and choose which African DNA is good and which is bad is a particularly laughable sort of exercise.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 12:32 am Greg Eliot

        But telling people of white European heritage that their various cultures are nothing to worry about perpetuating or defending because millions of years ago a proto-man may or may not have arisen in Africa is a totally sane endeavor?

        You schmuck.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 10:17 am the fauvist

        I think European cultures should be perpetuated and so does everyone else who isn’t masochistic and/or stupid, but that’s not at all the same as sputtering hatred for non-European peoples and denying a widely accepted theory on human ancestry (especially the part where the humans from Africa intermixed with the people already hanging out in Europe…hmmmm let’s learn from our ancestors shall we?). European cultures are great, but non-European cultures deserve our respect as well, period.

        Haha “schmuck”…nice to see you bringing out the Yiddish.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 10:52 am Greg Eliot

        I like to address people in their “coin of the realm”, as it were.

        How about going off about respect on the poster who started this bullshit with his answering:

        “Another European-American whore, destroying her ethnicity, her race. “

        with this:

        No such thing, you idiot fuck. Everybody has African DNA somewhere in their family tree, and the real funny thing is the more “hick” & ‘southern’ you are, the more recent the ancestry is

        You cogdis Yahudis always seem to miss lecturing on THAT account.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 11:43 am the fauvist

        No “Yahudis” here, but it doesn’t mean we lack chutzpah, right?

        I’ll address that sort of rhetoric when I join that discussion, but that’s not the one we’re having here. The issue is that we should impartially approach theories on human development which seem to place a good deal of it in Africa and that non-European cultures are fully worthy of our respect.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 10:05 pm Confederate Girl

        “Out of Africa” theory has been disproven

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 11:44 pm thwack

        so where did white people come from?

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 11:56 pm Greg Eliot

        Jakub the mad negro magician, right?

        /where’s my cookie?

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 4:45 pm NiteLily

        Mesopotamia.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 5:08 pm NiteLily

        Africa is a theory since scientists think black skin color came before white. I am not sure it’s true, and it has never been proven, so at this point it’s just a theory. Mesopotamia is probably where all humanity originated – from all of Noah’s 3 sons. If we’re not brothers, at least we’re cousins. But for sure, we’re all related.

        Furthermore, we’re all God’s creatures, and this is for Greg Eliot to ponder since he believes in “God” so strongly. If God created humans and we’re his creation, why do you hate God’s creation? If you love God so much, surly you also love his creation, his handiwork?

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 7:54 pm thwack

        where did “Mesopotamians” come from?

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      • on January 12, 2013 at 3:11 pm NiteLily

        from Mesopotamia. That’s where the Garden of Eden was located. The cradle of civilization.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 11:46 am casaanova

        “Out of Africa” theory has been disproven

        It goes way beyond the “Out of Africa” theory (even though it hasn’t been disproven and if it has I challenge you to find any sources). Just because your great grandfather was racist doesn’t mean he was above fucking a black chick during Reconstruction when he couldn’t get any other pussy

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 4:09 pm lights

        Cass Sunstein, everybody!

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 5:11 pm NiteLily

        “when he couldn’t get any other pussy”

        LOL! Hilarious!

        It seems some of them still can’t get any pussy.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 12:34 am the fauvist

        If by “disproven” you mean “widely accepted” then yeah.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 12:06 am Starets

        “Everybody has African DNA somewhere in their family tree”

        By the same token, we are all descended from some sort of bacteria, if you go back far enough. I suppose we could give the vote to them as well. Can’t be much worse than it has been since we gave the vote to our more recent cousins.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 12:38 am the fauvist

        That’s not the same token because African DNA means the DNA of humans, which is something of a distinguishing factor. But don’t tell the obsessive-hatred-brigade, it might force them to use whatever faculties for rational thought they might possess.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 12:47 am Greg Eliot

        I think most of us here at the chateau whom you attempt to paint as displaying a paucity of thought have proven their intelligence.

        And certainly the opposing view champions have not shown an abundance, let alone a monopoly, of your snarkily-touted “rational” thought.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 10:22 am the fauvist

        When someone is seriously comparing people to bacteria, well, it’s a good idea to test said intelligence.

        And my insistence on rational thought isn’t touted snarkily, I think, instead it’s stated as a matter of fact. I aim for an impartial point of view myself.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 10:55 am Greg Eliot

        He wasn’t “seriously comparing people to bacteria”… and you know it.

        He was parrying with an ironic extension to the train of thought that started with the absurdity of “everybody has negro DNA, so neener-neener-nyah-nyah” that invariably pops up when someone defends white European interests.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 12:04 pm the fauvist

        A “parry” with a logical fallacy embedded right in it, because we’re talking about our human ancestors, human being the operative term.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 4:13 am Starets

        Well, you’ve cleared that up for me, fauvist. I guess we better not give the vote to microbes.

        Now why don’t you use your rational thought to clarify my thinking about our more recent cousins. Has extending the vote and various civil rights to them a few decades back turned out to be a benefit to society?

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 10:36 am the fauvist

        Haha well we can agree on no votes for microbes. But as for your query, I think that if white citizens have the full franchise then there’s no reason not to extend it to non-white citizens…certainly black voters have made unsound calls over the years but white voters are undeniably guilty of precisely the same. And seeing as how whites still account for the majority of voters it’s simply ridiculous to say that our present predicament is the fault of black voters.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 12:07 pm Geekjock

        @starets
        Life would’ve been extremely inconvenient had we not got those rights, eventually. It’s human nature to be greedy, the precedent was set post-slavery.The keys to the nation have been given up through additional channels such as AA, post-high school education admission is even easier for a minority (someone capable of course). A select few(blacks, minorities in general) are now learning the system which in the end will benefit society. It promotes a completely leveled playing field where only the alpha-est of alphas are able to thrive which in turn will allow them to bed more women. To not want the competition or altogether resent its existence is in essence not alpha. Alphas enjoy winning more then the next man almost more then a woman’s tight ass itself. But then you take a step back and realize its cyclical.

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 3:25 pm Flavia

      Good. A woman who does not care about her volk has no place within them. I am happy she has opted out. She had one white kid, as opposed to 2-3. I wish it was 0, but it does mean her cuckolding, universalist, jungle fever genes are out of our pool.

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    • on January 11, 2013 at 12:15 am the fauvist

      Hahaha what nonsense. It has nothing to do with “destroying her ethnicity” it has to do with destroying her family. Great civilizations have always seen ethnic mixing, the weak and fearful try to hold onto some fabricated purity instead.

      And there are lots of WASPs writing bad advice columns, you know.

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    • on January 11, 2013 at 8:51 am J.M.

      Exaggeration. That´s just typical female rationalization in action. Women of every race and culture rationalize their actions and unless they have been brainwashed by a patriarchal culture, they feel no remorse of their action. Speaking from experience 🙂

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 12:49 pm JumboBeef

        >unless they have been brainwashed by a patriarchal culture,

        Are you a feminist? because i don’t know anybody us patriarchy as a brainwashing cult here in the chateau.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 5:07 pm J.M.

        “Are you a feminist? because i don’t know anybody us patriarchy as a brainwashing cult here in the chateau.” No I am not, but social mores of your were a powerful deterrent along with cultural zeitgeist contributed and made possible the raising of healthy families and control over hypergamy through convincing young women of the use of feminine virtues and the partial removal of their worst elements (solipsism, stupidity).

        Of course this was reinforced by the removal of their political rights, a necessary step if hypergamy and its dire consequences were to be controlled. That is what I meant by Brainwashing.

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  18. on January 9, 2013 at 3:52 pm askjoe

    There is a legal term, through and by which this BOTM is going to get screwed over legally. I forget the actual word but there is an idea that using infidelity as a means for divorce is blunted where the infidelities are mutual or accepted. I don’t see how this marriage can last, so when the axe is lowered on him, he’ll wind up paying for both kids.

    Men need to start bringing back their own old school torts against men like this, “indecent conversation” and “alienation of affection,” to start with, let alone suing the dad for child support.

    PS. that all my baby mommas show? What is this, a new hate thing…the hate reality, which we’re forbidden from discussing?

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 4:00 pm Rick Derris

      >>>
      Men need to start bringing back their own old school torts against men like this, “indecent conversation” and “alienation of affection,” to start with, let alone suing the dad for child support.
      >>>

      Exactly. Let the father of this love child be the one to pay the child support. I’ll be he doesn’t have a job or other “visible” means of support though, which means no garnishment of wages. F it – tell the mother she’s 100% responsible for the kid.

      10 will get you 1 that the daughter ends up a stripper.

      Sadly, the legal community would never allow the return of “alienation of affection.” That’s what happens when you let Georgetown Law exist with professors who think that the Constitution should be junked and money coming in from the Saudi royal jizzhadis.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 4:14 pm Cloudswrest

      There’s generally a timeout period (usually two years) to deny paternity based on DNA. If this BOTM hasn’t already done so his is an uber BOTM.

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  19. on January 9, 2013 at 3:53 pm Newly Aloof

    That’s such a fucked up story, it’s almost beyond comprehension. Dude, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again Heartiste, no dude deserves this shit and that’s why beta’s need a bridge article like the Relationship Game Week Dave From Hawaii post to bust through their initial resistance to Game so they can avoid such a horrible fate. I don’t see why you can’t put a link to that on your main navigation. That article’s like the Neo moment where everything turns to zeros and ones and a man can see the truth beyond his resistance.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 5:46 pm corvinus

      no dude deserves this shit

      Actually, I’ll make an exception if the cuckolded husband was an ardent “anti-racist” tool.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 12:45 am the fauvist

        I think someone who keeps bringing up a tired topic no matter how irrelevant and unnecessary certainly qualifies as a “tool”. Think about that.

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      • on January 12, 2013 at 11:46 pm Anon

        Think about THIS!

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  20. on January 9, 2013 at 3:56 pm caballero

    Emily Yoffe isn’t that bad, actually, and she gave her advice on how to explain the child’s race, not whether he should leave his family, to which he was obviously committed.

    I met Yoffe at a flea market a few years ago in DC. I recognized her, so I approached her and said “Money’s tight, huh? Don’t worry, I won’t tell anyone I saw you here.” She laughed and we chatted a bit.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 4:23 pm Georgia Boy

      Emily Yoffe looked at Morpheus and said, I’ll have two of the blue ones please. Everything she writes is so plugged in, it makes me want to vomit.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 7:53 pm DirkJohanson

      Yoffe once wrote an advice column telling a guy whose wife wore the same bra every day for years, even after it turned black from filth, that he should consider himself to lucky to have access to breasts, at all.

      Just in case there’s another Holocaust, and I manage not to be slaughtered in it, I hereby call first dibs on an Emily Yoffe lampshade.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 8:34 pm Starets

      Propagandists often seem not that bad. Simple rhetoric; if they were always shrill harpies, they wouldn’t be able to get their message across.

      Look at Hollywood; propaganda disguised as “entertainment”.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 1:02 pm Greg Eliot

        Ah, yes… Hollywood… where all the prison rapists are white, and negroes are ace pilots, kindly mentors, or master engineers.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 11:00 pm Starets

        But the spoonful of sugar helps the “medicine” go down.

        Rhetoric and propaganda are worthy of study. Useful tools in themselves; also studying them can provide a bit of inoculation to allow one to see more easily when the media masters are attempting to pull the wool over ones eyes.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 11:51 pm Greg Eliot

        The trouble is, after taking the red pill (or putting on the special sunglasses, if you will) and seeing the aliens for what they are and EVERYWHERE they are, the majority blue-pillers dust you off as being “obsessed”, “paranoid”, etc.

        So few are chosen, because few will pay the price,
        That it takes to go searching for Paradise.
        – from the song Gaugin, by the estimable Jimmy Webb

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 12:52 am the fauvist

        Well, prison rapists are sometimes white; ace pilots, mentors and engineers are sometimes black.

        Reality often comes as a shock to those who try to deny it.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 1:00 am Greg Eliot

        You disingenuous yiddler.

        Nobody is talking about what’s possible… we’re talking about what is portrayed as the norm… which, when it actually isn’t… and by a far stretch… becomes a form of lie and insidious propaganda.

        But you knew that already. 😡

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 10:47 am the fauvist

        I don’t think that’s the case at all: black ace pilots are portrayed by Hollywood in the first place because they’re exceptional. The same goes for everyone else…no one wants to watch a movie about the norm because the norm is known and less compelling than what’s above and beyond the norm.

        That doesn’t mean Hollywood doesn’t make stupid movies with oversimplified views of race relations, mind…it just means that there are indeed exceptional blacks and there’s no reason to not portray them on film just as we do for white ace pilots, mentors and engineers. Especially since we all know they’re being portrayed precisely because they aren’t the norm.

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      • on January 13, 2013 at 6:45 pm aleister

        @fauv: I really think you are dumber that nitelilly. You are dumber than a dumb cunt. Think about that. Think about that.

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      • on January 14, 2013 at 12:51 am NiteLily

        @the fauvist

        LOL! Look who’s calling you a dummy! One who is sooooo grammatically challenged. Stupid those bigots/anti-Semites, eh? it explains a lot about the “UNEVOLVED mentally.” Poor things. Pity on them.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 4:19 am Starets

        “Well, prison rapists are sometimes white; ace pilots, mentors and engineers are sometimes black.”

        Ah, the high wisdom of the after school TV special.

        Maybe you could follow up this little diversity moment by singing us a ditty about the functions of conjunctions.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 10:48 am the fauvist

        No, just common sense and seeing the world as it is. Do you deny the statement or would you rather request another tune?

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 3:26 pm Starets

        Presidents of the USA are sometimes black. Well once anyways.

        What does the very rare exception prove about the majority?

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      • on January 13, 2013 at 6:46 pm aleister

        Please don’t make fauv’s brain melt.

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  21. on January 9, 2013 at 3:59 pm hbdusa

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2259392/Katherine-Webb-says-need-ESPN-apologize-veteran-commentators-enthusiastic-remarks.html

    The word that has been used by the feminists the BETASIZE alpha behavior is creepy.

    “Webb, who is dating Alabama’s quarterback A.J. McCarron, became an internet hit after cameras panned to her in the stands during the first quarter of the BCS Championship game between Alabama and Notre Dame on Monday.
    ‘I’m telling you, you quarterbacks, you get all the good looking women,’ Musburger gushed as the camera stayed on Webb. ‘What a beautiful woman.’

    ‘Wow!’ former Ohio State quarterback Kirk Herbstreit added. ‘AJ’s doing some things right down in Tuscaloosa.’
    ‘If you’re a youngster in Alabama, start getting the football out and throw it around the backyard with pop,’ added Musburger, who has been married to his wife Arlene for 50 years”

    With some media commentators and viewers branding their comments ‘creepy’, ESPN was forced to apologize on Tuesday.
    ‘We always try to capture interesting storylines, and the relationship between an Auburn grad who is Miss Alabama USA and the current Alabama quarterback certainly met that test. However, we apologize that the commentary in this instance went too far and Brent understands that.’
    But as well as Miss Webb herself, her father, Alan Webb, came to the defense of Musburger.
    ‘On one hand, you can look at it as being kind of like the dirty old man,’ he said. ‘But I’m used to this and I think if you really look into what that he was trying to say, he was trying to be complimentary, and I think they need to give Brent a break.’

    Hmm, wonder if those “viewers branding their comments “creepy” weren’t like your troll of the week shive1008

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 11:04 pm Mark Slater

      I noticed that news item, also. You would’ve thought that Mr. Musberger jumped her judging by the reaction. This is what American Society 2.0 has come to: An older man noted that a young woman is beautiful and gorgeous and he is a “creep” and a “dirty old man”.

      You can tell Miss Webb was raised right and, though a very young woman, is part of the “Old South”; where admiration towards her physical appearance is met with a sense of flattery rather than the rape whistle.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 11:34 pm Days of Broken Arrows

        I agree with this and called out the idiots on my Facebook page who were calling Mussberger creepy. Feminism has spread like a disease people don’t even know they have.

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 1:27 am Rick Derris

      I wanted Kirk to neg her.

      Joe Namath is an Alabama alum. I was hoping he would stumble into view and start hitting on McCarron’s chick. She is prettier and younger than Suzie Kolber.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 6:27 am DirkJohanson

        Broadway Joe probably already fucked her.

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  22. on January 9, 2013 at 4:04 pm Hugh G. Rection

    Why not let her lover move in so he could make beta of the millennium…

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 4:06 pm Greg Eliot

      He’s not up for parole for another three years.

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  23. on January 9, 2013 at 4:07 pm Hugh G. Rection

    My advice: Tell the son that the black kid is their slave.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 8:43 pm Greg Eliot

      My advice to break it gently to the boy:

      First, get out two dishes, one with vanilla ice cream and one with chocolate…

      …

      Profit!

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 12:09 am Starets

      Then tell the son that if he wants to keep it, he has to clean up after it.

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  24. on January 9, 2013 at 4:09 pm thwack

    Scott
    Filthy coal-burning whore.
    ———————————————
    Wait!

    , as bad as this scenario sounds, the truth could be worse.

    The husband could have asked the wife, to ask the black guy to have a threesome; in order for the husband to get into some gay stuff that really turned him on?

    I had a girl tell me about this and at first it turned me on (because I wanted to fuck her) then I said, “wait a minute?”

    Why is this guy trying to get another guy for a threesome?

    Don’t guys usually get another girl for a threesome?

    Its not like he’s trying to run a train on her; this dude was trying to cloak his gayness in a threesome.

    Then again, its possible the girl made the whole story up as a way to make it easier for you to fuck her?

    Its not always the white womans fault.

    anybody else experience this?

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 5:48 pm corvinus

      The husband could have asked the wife, to ask the black guy to have a threesome; in order for the husband to get into some gay stuff that really turned him on?

      Yeah, if the beta hubby was an ardent “anti-racist” who’s into that kind of cuckold fetishism, he fully deserved it.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 8:42 pm Greg Eliot

      I’m sure this is the explanation.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 10:12 pm Confederate Girl

      thwack, how do you have so much time to constantly spew your bullshit on here? do you even have a job? oh wait, you’re black…

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 11:51 pm thwack

        Hey, I got a cock; you’re the one who needs a reason for being here.

        Oh wait, theres one in your mouth.

        My bad.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 4:22 pm Matthew King (King A)

        LOL

        I mean, *ahem*, please refrain from taunting our white women and disrespecting their pristine honor. They are angels.

        Bros — even bruthas — before hos.

        Until you overstep and begin fantasizing about miscegenation. They may be cunts but they’re our cunts, see?

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 4:42 pm Greg Eliot

        At least he didn’t say it was his.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 10:51 pm corvinus

        (snicker)

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  25. on January 9, 2013 at 4:11 pm PA

    Remember Mary Kaye Letourneau, the pretty teacher with a husband and a couple of kids who got knocked up by a Polynesian or Samoan student? The husband took the kids, moved with him to Alaska, and never looked back.

    The man in this story is pathetic. Suicide would be preferrable to what he has resigned himself to. And on the other side, there are no lawyers, no alimony, no prison, no prison rape. Only your enduring honor and a son who will one day understand everything.

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  26. on January 9, 2013 at 4:14 pm anon

    speaking of Slate, they have another ridiculous article about how single motherhood is good for kids. Here’s an interesting reply in the comments:

    ChristainKP
    I think that the real problem with this kind of articles is that young men will understand that their help is not needed in reproduction. This article legitimize young men’s abandonment of family because they are not essential for it. Why put of with a lot of trouble and work if the women can manage nearly as well without. It will be much easier for men to take out divorce and abandon their family if they think that their contribution isn’t needed or – as some of these women claim – a nuisance.
    In this way Slate is working in favor of more single families, of putting a heavier burden on the shoulders of women and of letting men legitimately flee their responsibilities as fathers.
    I cannot see that this is for the benefit of women as a group.

    I believe that we are approaching a future in which most women are single mothers. Maybe they are inseminated by sperm donators. Thereby they will have lost control over which male should be the father of their child. It will also be possible for society to decide the gender of children and as redundant men are violent we will se a reduction of male children.

    However, women will se no equalities between the sexes. In the upper class women will still choose to form families as they have always done. And in this class we will se a preponderance of boy children. The men will hold the power of society and lower class women will only be slaves in reproduction and production.

    Women be careful what you wish for and be careful what you say or write. Think of the repercussions that will hit your daughters and granddaughters. You have put yourselves in a very dangerous situation.

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  27. on January 9, 2013 at 4:20 pm Matt

    Get some solid replacement ID, do a good job of faking his death and go somewhere far away.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 5:35 pm John Galt

      Why fake your own death when you can just kill her? If this happened to me, i would do the following –

      Step 1 – increase life insurance substantially under guise of “I have a bigger family now”. Wait 12-18 months
      Step 2 – befriend the black lover, and acquire his dna (hair, maybe blood if you can manage to get into a fist fight with him).
      Step 3 – set up a fake alibi, preferably somewhere out of town for work where you can sneak away for a few hours to drive back to your home
      Step 4 – pick a time when you know the black lover won’t have an alibi (he’s usually at home alone in the evenings, etc)
      Step 5 – once step 3 and 4 sync up, drive home and strangle your wife to death with gloves (don’t use a knife because you can cut yourself, don’t use a gun because there will be a paper trail)
      Step 6 – plant the asshole’s DNA in the vicinity of her body.
      Step 7 – let someone else find the body (make sure your kid is out of town so he doesn’t find it)
      Step 8 – collect the insurance money
      Step 9 – see the black motherfucker go to the gas chamber
      Step 10 – put the bastard spawn up for adoption

      Done and done.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 5:55 pm lights

        Nice try, officer.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 8:45 pm Greg Eliot

        Fuck, you just gave away my screen treatment for a remake of Double Indemnity: 2013.

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  28. on January 9, 2013 at 4:23 pm PA

    “I cheated on my husband, got pregnant, and decided to keep the child”

    Keeping a bastard conceived by rape is a non-negotiable NO, much less one conceived by adultery.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 4:38 pm Unending Improvement (@UnendImprov)

      I used to be anti-Abortion, now I’m pro-Abortion.

      The Red Pill will do that to you.

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  29. on January 9, 2013 at 4:39 pm Ryu

    The nigger should be hung, the wife should be burned at the stake. Let the children watch to witness the consquences of sin.

    [Heartiste: As women are the sexual gatekeepers and the ones who wield the most power in determining who gets to have sex with them and when, I place most of the blame on the adulteresses in such cuckoldry situations. It takes two to tango, yes, but generally only the female tangoer knows for sure if an infidelity is set to occur that involves her as a party to the transaction. Unless she was raped, of course. Cue whorefinder…]

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 4:47 pm Hugh G. Rection

      Probably best to exterminate the whole family.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 7:21 pm whorefinder

      Agreed. And, yes, Heartiste, that is my cue…

      RAPE!

      But is it really rape if an animal does it?

      P.S. What is up with the commenting problems, dudes?

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 8:47 pm Greg Eliot

      Grandma used to say: “A man is only going to do what a woman lets him get away with.”

      MeeMaw didn’t lie… she didn’t lie-ie…

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 10:14 pm Confederate Girl

      Amen!

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  30. on January 9, 2013 at 4:43 pm Tilikum

    Why aren’t we using dark game again?

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  31. on January 9, 2013 at 4:43 pm RappaccinisDaughter

    The child-support laws as they stand are nothing more than a gross violation of men’s civil rights. This guy is Exhibit A. Heartiste is absolutely correct–in most states, even with DNA evidence, the man who provided for the child as a father (even for a short period of time) is on the hook for child support for 18 years. And the courts would probably award custody of the child that IS his to the bitch.

    The only argument I’ve ever heard in defense of this practice that makes the slightest bit of sense is that it helps keep the taxpayer from having to foot the bill. To which I say, screw it. I’m not generally in favor of adding new laws, but here’s one I’d support: If the father’s name on the birth certificate doesn’t match the DNA, he doesn’t have to pay…and no welfare, WIC, Section 8 or Obamaphones for the bitch OR her little by-blow.

    Heartiste, I’m with you on this “think of the children” horseshit. It’s only deployed when someone is trying to put more control of our lives into the hands of the government.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 5:39 pm Scott

      If the fathers name on the birth certificate doesn’t match the DNA, the wife should be thrown in jail for fraud or stoned to death.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 7:26 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        Stoned to death? I wouldn’t go there. The death penalty is reserved for crimes far more serious than this.
        But the fraud thing…that could legitimately be made to stick. And the child of cuckoldry could be first offered to the husband’s family (some would take this deal, it should be an option); and then put up for adoption. There are enough infertile couples desperate to adopt that the child could be given a good home.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 7:59 pm MarkII

        Cuckoldry is every bit as serious as rape. More so really, given the technological and social state of contemporary society.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 8:56 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        Agreed. But they don’t execute people for rape these days. I like the fraud angle a lot better.

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 4:47 am ron

      The problem with what you said is that this virtually guarantees a false rape claim.

      Let her have her precious welfare, WIC, section 8, etc. Overdoing a punishment leads to just a big a disaster as underdoing it.

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 10:36 pm moses

      “The only argument I’ve ever heard in defense of this practice that makes the slightest bit of sense is that it helps keep the taxpayer from having to foot the bill. To which I say, screw it.”

      Erm….that makes sense to you?

      That makes about as much sense as forcing you to pay me unemployment benefits when I lose my job, just because “it helps keep the taxpayer from footing the bill.”

      In this case it’s much worse though — the guy who got betrayed has to pay for the betrayal for 18 years. Talk about adding insult to injury, multiplied x1000.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 5:52 pm NiteLily

        she said screw it; she doesn’t agree with this argument.

        she added:

        “If the father’s name on the birth certificate doesn’t match the DNA, he doesn’t have to pay…and no welfare, WIC, Section 8 or Obamaphones for the bitch OR her little by-blow.”

        I can’t agree more. Do they make us pay for something we didn’t buy? No, at least not in theory. Why should a man pay for something that is not his? Why should anybody?

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  32. on January 9, 2013 at 4:48 pm X

    he should play the long revenge game and start banging his wife’s daughter when she’s 16.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 5:00 pm PA

      LOL, and knock her up to clean up what his wife had soiled.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 6:31 pm jackmc

      Cosigned. I have this planned in the future for people who have wronged me.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 7:07 pm corvinus

      I imagine that our beta of the month would be quicker to divorce if the illegitimate spawn was male.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 8:58 pm thwack

        Hmmm… why Corvinus?

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 10:16 pm Confederate Girl

        cause there’s no hope for little trayvons

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 12:52 am Starets

        Obama’s Sons, one and all!

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  33. on January 9, 2013 at 4:49 pm RappaccinisDaughter

    The way the current child-support and custody laws are set up are nothing less than a gross violation of men’s civil rights. It has to stop. As morally wrong as what that bitch did was, it’s even worse that the entire power of the State can force poor BOTM to pay child support until the kid is 18.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 5:12 pm RappaccinisDaughter

      Well, crap. I didn’t mean to double-post. I thought WordPress ate the first one.

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  34. on January 9, 2013 at 4:54 pm John Galt

    “We’re a long ways from Normal Rockwell’s America.” Haven’t laughed that hard in awhile. Much appreciated.

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  35. on January 9, 2013 at 4:58 pm Phillyastro

    Another BOTM contender – Director Quentin Tarantino and his Wilt Chamberlain Dating, Athlete Groupie Momma

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/wilt-dated-mom-quentin-tarantino-article-1.1235158

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 6:16 pm Full-Fledged Fiasco

      “In 2005 Tarantino was host of the Quentin Tarantino Film festival in Austin, Texas. All the movies were identified as Tarantino’s “favorite films” and came from his own collection of original films. One of the movies that Tarantino picked as a favorite was the 1976 XXX-rated rape porn “Hot Summer In The City.” Tarantino stated that it was “the greatest porno of all time.” According to the International Movie Database it features a white female virgin being gang raped by “black militants.” The males yell racial slurs during the assault. It is part of an extremely controversial genre of “rape porn” that shows graphic depictions of violent sexual assaults against women.”

      Coincidence?

      P.S.: More here.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 8:51 pm Greg Eliot

      Imprinting never fails.

      There’s always an explanation somewhere, if one is patient… the miscreant invariably tells on him- or herself.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 9:06 pm thwack

        My fantasy version of Django Unchained is about a slave who, as a child, teaches himself to read. Later, he finds a copy of the Declaration of Independence, hunts down all the founding fathers and kills the ones who own slaves; including George Washington.

        You crackerz are lucky Tarrantino has a camera and I don’t.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 9:20 pm Greg Eliot

        In my version the Founding Fathers are actually smart and foreseeing enough to outlaw slavery and repatriate all negroes to their original homelands… and everyone lives happily ever after… leastwise, on this side of the pond.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 9:21 pm DirkJohanson

        You really need to consider at least two things:

        1. George Washington and the other slave owning founders did not invent the world; rather, they came into a world with slaves, and that is what they knew, just like some would say today that eating meat is barbaric. Enlightenment does not occur overnight.

        2. Your inclusion of Washington on this list is particularly unfortunate. He made arrangements that his slaves be freed after Martha died, and after he died, she let them go early. One might also consider that being a “slave” under someone who made provisions for your release, and whose aversion to power was such that he turned down the opportunity to be king, was surely not what one pictures the life of a slave to be. Do you really believe he was, for instance, whipping and beating them by day, and at the same time planning their release?

        Here’s an article about Washington’s slaves. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/jefferson/video/lives.html Apparently they were free to have jobs outside the plantation to earn money, they went to churches off the plantation, it is documented (in an era of far less documentation than today) that Washington paid a slave a gratuity, invited slaves to a wedding, and other such things. So, please consider that before making Washington the subject of a vindictive murder spree – not to many of Washington’s slaves, if they were alive today, would approve.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 9:54 pm thwack

        2. Your inclusion of Washington on this list is particularly unfortunate. He made arrangements that his slaves be freed after Martha died, and after he died, she let them go early.
        ———————————————————————–

        Slow your roll Dirk; you’re telling the white version of the George Washington story.

        The REAL version, the BLACK version is this:

        He told his slaves: “upon my death, you will all be freed”. But he told his wife Martha, if he died first, the slaves would be freed upon HER death. So when GW died and the slaves realized they had to wait for her to die? She said it made her nervous because the slaves started lookin at her funny.

        Who here has been to Mount Vernon?

        I have.

        Its a self contained plantation; old ass Martha was surrounded by niggers who couldn’t be free till she died. She could have been poisoned any day “and nobody saw nuffin”

        And you want me to believe she CHOSE to free them niggas?

        Nigga please.

        Think about how uncomfortable you crackers get when niggers stare at you without sayin anything?

        Now imagine Martha Washington going through that every fucking day?

        *Disapointment is the mother of rebellion*

        [Heartiste: Would it be possible, for the duration of ONE post — and I address all parties here — to refrain from dropping the N or J words in every other comment? Come on, guys, this stuff is starting to harm this blog’s sterling reputation. Let’s try to stay on topic for a brief spell. Otherwise it’ll be back to full modding, and nobody wants that.]

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 10:12 pm DirkJohanson

        Ok, so then you know he made provisions to free the slaves, and he lied to his wife, so that’s a second thing in the plus column lol Seems to me that you shouldn’t want him to be a target in your movie.

        If you were born in to a world with slaves all over the place and didn’t know much different and there wasn’t much in the way of modern media to enlighten you and you inherited a plantation and the slaves were free to run businesses and leave the plantation and such so that it wasn’t like you were being surrounded by or imposing big-time suffering, would you immediately cook up the idea to free the slaves? Some of his guy slaves were even able to have multiple wives at the same time, which in a major sense, is better than free white guys are allowed to legally live their life today.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 10:27 pm corvinus

        [Heartiste: Would it be possible, for the duration of ONE post — and I address all parties here — to refrain from dropping the N or J words in every other comment? Come on, guys, this stuff is starting to harm this blog’s sterling reputation. Let’s try to stay on topic for a brief spell. Otherwise it’ll be back to full modding, and nobody wants that.]

        Seconded…

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 10:48 pm Full-Fledged Fiasco

        “Would it be possible, for the duration of ONE post — and I address all parties here — to refrain from dropping the N or J words in every other comment?”

        N word? J word?

        Who is this?

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 11:19 pm thwack

        DirkJohanson
        Ok, so then you know he made provisions to free the slaves, and he lied to his wife,
        —————————————–

        NOOOOOOO Dirk, its worse than that; he lied to his slaves; the ones who stayed loyal and busted their ass all those years because they thought they were gonna be free when he died.

        It was a handshake contract; and he broke it. And left Martha to deal with all the debt and pissed off “Mondays”

        You ever go to one of them rap concerts where everybody pays $30 to get in and then the group cancels because the promoter ran off with all the money?

        all the bottles flying, windows getting smashed…

        You don’t wanna be around when people find out they been lied to.

        It was a LAWYER who informed Martha Washington that the slaves were NOT free.

        GW had major debts, and creditors were ready to snatch some of them “Mondays”.

        THATS why the black people were so angry.

        We knew what happened when wealthy white people died.

        Crackers come out the woodwork to “collect” and “Mondays” get nervous.

        “If Martha don’t hurry up and die…”

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 11:49 pm PIATTI

        u dont know shit about the logistics of slavery or the mentality of those people at that time … go to a 3rd world country like Brazil where slavery still exists.. those people dont want to be freed .. they want to be attached to something(church state a rich family, or a job).. because they dont have it in them to create their own lives ..truth

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 11:52 pm PIATTI

        ps I wish they thought like we do know revisionist BS just like the dialogue in Spielberg’s Lincoln

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 12:00 am thwack

        PIATTI
        those people dont want to be freed .. they want to be attached to something(church state a rich family, or a job).. because they dont have it in them to create their own live
        ———————————–
        Do they want to be sold to Jeffery Dahmer?

        When you die, all your debts must be paid before your heirs can get any of the estate.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 4:57 am ron

        This is why I left the country and didn’t look back. We have the leftists, then the moronic sheep, then the white racists, and then the black racists.

        To hell with all of you. I am going to sit back poolside in my undisclosed location with my money in various foreign accounts and laugh my fucking ass off at you stupid shits when the country collapses.

        And btw, thwack, Greg, if you’re ancestry goes back more than 3 generations in the States than odds are you both have more than a little black and white in you.

        Stupid motherfuckers.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 9:53 am Greg Eliot

        My parents came from the old countries… maybe even one of the those in which you yourself are now sitting poolside, surrounded by beautiful white faces and not having to be bothered by that nasty RAYCIS! stuff… because the carriers aren’t around to cause it.

        You fairy.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 9:55 am Greg Eliot

        And for the record, I believe thwack already admitted to having one white parent.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 12:50 pm Greg Eliot

        N word? J word? :confused

        An article about miscegenation through cuckoldry, with the “families come about in many ways… yours is special” advice from a YKW advice columnist… and nobody is supposed to mention the TWO 800 pound Gorillas of the Apocalypse in the room?

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 1:17 pm Lara

        It’s giving too much importance to what some advice columnist has to say. Who cares? It’s on the wronged husband to rectify the situation.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 2:04 pm Greg Eliot

        t’s giving too much importance to what some advice columnist has to say. Who cares? It’s on the wronged husband to rectify the situation.

        You’re missing the point, doll… obviously, it’s on the husband…

        But notice the usual suspect touting of “there, there” THIS-IS-THE-MORALLY-ACCEPTABLE-RESPONSE fed to the peanut gallery of readers by their media masters.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 2:11 pm Starets

        @ Lara

        “It’s giving too much importance to what some advice columnist has to say”

        Wrong.

        The dire situation we are in has come about because of the decades of propaganda, from multiple sources.

        Calling out the propagandists as lying society destroyers is a key step to rebuilding western societies.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 2:19 pm Greg Eliot

        That’s pretty much what I just told her, but the comment is stuck in moderation… go figure.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 2:57 pm Matthew King (King A)

        Would it be possible, for the duration of ONE post — and I address all parties here — to refrain from dropping the N or J words in every other comment?

        After all the provocation up-thread, who does CH specifically pick on to make his general point?

        That’s right. THE BLACK MAN. Racism is so insidious.

        (((shaken muh head)))

        [Heartiste: I like a lunchroom food fight as much as the next mischief maker, but there is such a thing as boring, repetitive overkill. The comments and commenters here can be great, but when they get drowned out by uninspired, uncreative, unoriginal, ham-fisted dullards spewing the same shit over and over, no end in sight, nobody learnin’ nothin’, nobody but a few sperglords entertained, then the cleverer and more insightful commenters tend to leave for places where their works can be better appreciated. Or at least more easily located from amongst the dreck.

        Fer krissakes, people, find your inner aesthete, and cultivate him! Chicks dig aesthetes.]

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 3:00 pm Greg Eliot

        Golf clap… most droll, most droll.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 4:30 pm Greg Eliot

        Heh, heh… heartsy said dreck… heh, heh.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 6:14 pm NiteLily

        “Heh, heh… heartsy said dreck… heh, heh”

        Too bad he didn’t call you that. Heh Heh

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 6:43 pm Greg Eliot

        Ah, NiteHarpy is up on her yiddish… another piece of the puzzle found.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 7:05 pm NiteLily

        I used Google translator to look it up, stupid. Do you know how to use the internet effectively. Or do you know only how to make obscene comments?

        But how come you have such a large repertoire of Yiddish words, pray tell. You are never without one, how queer!

        You live your whole life immersed in hate. Pity!

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 7:10 pm Greg Eliot

        As I said, I am a multifaceted individual… and when in Rome, I learn Italian.

        BTW, your words seem awfully hateful when you rail against haters, both real and imagined.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 7:17 pm NiteLily

        Not more than yours. I’m learning from you guys.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 9:40 pm Uncle Elmer

        Actually, there was a man who did that. His name was Booker T. Washington. But instead of killing whites he advised blacks to improve themselves rather than seek conflict with whites, and proved his mettle by founding and building the Tuskeegee Institute from nothing. He is widely disregarded by today’s more thoughtful blacks.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 3:17 pm thwack

        Greg Eliot
        And for the record, I believe thwack already admitted to having one white parent.
        ———————————————–

        Nawhhhhh mother fucker; don’t try to slide in that “he’s only smart cause one of his parents are white” bullshit..
        I know you wish it were true, but that don’t make it so.

        You people steal enough credit for everything else; but you ain’t stealin me.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 3:22 pm Greg Eliot

        I stand corrected… but I’m pretty sure you mentioned once that you had white blood, so, in these race-mixing times, I presumed…

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 10:18 pm Confederate Girl

        An ape teaching itself how to read? That’s why your little fantasy will never be a reality

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 11:28 pm thwack

        Au contraire; apes routinely teach themselves how to read music.

        I know cause Im one of em.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 6:17 pm NiteLily

        Is calling blacks apes really necessary? If anything hurts the Chateau it’s remarks like these. It’s so uncalled for.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 8:14 pm thwack

        Nitelily, Im not offended to be called an ape because I know what an ape is.

        I might be a TYPE of ape.

        Now if you call me a monkey, thats different. Now we gotta fight, which automatically means you take a beatdown from me.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 8:25 pm PA

        Sweetheart, you missed the Great Obsdiaian Race Threads of ’09. The Chateau has thrived then and since.

        “I sit and watch the children play. Doin’ things I used to do. They think are new.” — Rolling Stones

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      • on January 13, 2013 at 1:41 pm Greg Eliot

        Now if you call me a monkey, thats different. Now we gotta fight, which automatically means you take a beatdown from me.

        You’ll have to get in line… behind all the insulted monkeys. 😀

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      • on January 15, 2013 at 1:39 am NiteLily

        @PA

        I had no idea this is a long-occurring practice here. But how many times can the same thing be rehashed? Doesn’t it get old? I guess not for people with lots of resentment and frustration, eh?

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  36. on January 9, 2013 at 5:19 pm whiskeysplace

    The son will be screwed up, knowing his genetic heritage is loser, and that Black guys score more and better than his dad. Son and daughter are likely to hate hate hate each other; not healthy. Best for both kids for the son to go with the father, the mother stay with her Black boyfriend/father.

    You’ll probably see this more, as more and more White guys get more beta, and Black guys look better and get more idolized in the media (I know, who knew it was possible?) In a society of no rules, it is imperative for men to be as Alpha as possible at all times, since they are basically in an “at will” employment contract when it comes to marriage; the corollary is that they owe their wives basically nothing, the same any employee who can be fired for any reason at a moment’s notice owes their employer.

    In this society, the best strategy is to emulate Shawty Lo. As many kids with as many women investing in none.

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 1:55 pm Anonymous

      All My Baby’s Mama’s… wave of the future, every man with his own harem, promise da bitches the world but give ’em a few crumbs.

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  37. on January 9, 2013 at 5:23 pm Abe

    Maybe the husband is a white rap fan (almost as beta) and she told him it was 50 Cent’s.

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  38. on January 9, 2013 at 5:50 pm I Beta

    “for the sake of the children”

    The father must act to rectify the situation for the sake of the children – specifically, his son. At least one hopes it is his son.

    Assuming the son is his, the father’s prime directive is to be the main role model in his son’s life and raise his son to a proud honorable manhood that upholds the family name – his name, his father’s name, his father’s father’s name, and his son’s name.

    He *cannot* fulfill his paternal duty to his son while accepting his wife and family as is. Taking his son and leaving his wife and not-daughter will be traumatic in the short term, but making a clean break in order to raise his son on the right track is the most responsible thing he can do as a father. The sooner the better. He should have taken his son away from his wife on day one instead of allowing the problem to compound. His mom, his son’s grandmother, only has a partially correct answer, but with only that much, she’s a better father to her grandson than her son is. If the son is young enough to still need a maternal presence in his life, let that be his father’s mother, not the son’s sick mother.

    As an Army veteran, I appreciate the soldier (not solider) metaphor.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 6:27 pm PA

      Great comment

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 8:52 pm Greg Eliot

        Indeed.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 8:57 pm Kate

      Amen.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 3:35 pm thwack

        I Beta

        He *cannot* fulfill his paternal duty to his son while accepting his wife and family as is.
        ——————————————————–

        Ok, ya’ll finished jacking off to this comment?

        Because I have a simple question:

        Why not?

        What is it about about the existence of this mocha step sister that will prevent this man from fufilling his “paternal duty to his son?”

        Really,

        WTF is it?

        How is this halfrican child gonna prevent this man from teaching his son how to throw a knuckle ball?

        Fishing?, small engine repair, making paper airplanes…

        What are the mechanics of this because I don’t get it?

        Please, school me?

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 4:33 pm Kate

        Its not the child; its the wife. If he stays with her, he is not a good role model to his son.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 4:40 pm Greg Eliot

        Not to speak for the OP, but I’m guessing it has something to do with the fact that, no matter what the man teaches his son, or what kind of relationship they may have, the pall of the mom’s betrayal and the continued presence of the alien spawn will always hang like a heavy cloud in the air, from which no deep, fresh breath can ever be taken.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 5:10 pm PA

        Correct

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 7:57 pm Starets

        Yes. There is a duty of moral instruction to ones offspring. This is best done by example.

        Teaching knuckle balls and fishing, while great things to teach a son, are of much less importance. All the skills in the world are of little use if the son does not learn to have a moral centre, and to have moral courage to do what is right and necessary.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 12:07 am thwack

        Ok Greg,

        but what about the lesson of forgiveness?

        “To be a Christian means to forgive the inexcusable because God has forgiven the inexcusable in you.”
        ― C.S. Lewis

        Thats right, JC bought all you fools up in here a 2nd chance; and you wanna use it to crucify this dumb bitch?

        You know you wrong.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 12:20 am Greg Eliot

        Brother, I love that rebuke.

        There are those who can overcome this world, and they are truly The Elect.

        The rest of us, well… we’ll just have to be schooled towards that perfection during the Judgment Day.

        Until then, I’m not going to blame a man for not tolerating the illicit actions of a treacherous wife… nor pay the freight on the illegitimate fruit thereof.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 10:27 am J.M.

        Forgiveness is one thing, acceptance is another. Your pavlovian dislike of whites at this late stage of history and in this specific case is unjustified and blurs your vision to the main point.

        No matter what race belongs his half-sister, the sole fact that he (the father) stays with his unfaithful wife, any teaching he can deliver to his son about masculinity and honour would sound hollow and useless and most likely rejected when the son grows up to understand and see his weak attitude.

        And if you are going to quote Scripture at least do it in its entirety: “I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.” Mathew 19

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      • on January 12, 2013 at 1:21 am misterdamage

        If I hurl myself from the top of a 250 meter high building and pray to god on the way down: “Please forgive me for this foolish act”, god will forgive me. It does not follow that I would survive the fall.

        Actions have consequences. When a wife commits an act that permanently robs her husband of dignity, the respect of his peers and his own self respect, he cannot remain married to her regardless of whether or not he forgives her.

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      • on January 12, 2013 at 1:27 am misterdamage

        If I were to throw myself from the top of a 250 meter tall building and prayed to god forgiveness while falling, the bible teaches that I would be forgiven for my foolishness. The ground is still going to arrive with a loud and slightly damp thud.

        When a woman commits an act that permanently robs her husband of dignity, the respect of his peers and his own self respect, he cannot remain married to her. Actions have consequences. Her husband, if a christian, should indeed forgive her. That should not stop him from divorcing her.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 8:31 pm I Beta

        role model – fathers are definitional for sons.

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    • on January 11, 2013 at 10:19 am J.M.

      Thank you at least someone on topic. If only more mainstream colummnists and “counselors” wrote in this way.

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  39. on January 9, 2013 at 5:54 pm Sidewinder

    I think he’d have a better shot in court then you estimate. I think it will be relevant how long he’s waited before going to court, but had he filed for divorce upon learning this information, there’s a good chance he’d get at least primary custody of his son, and in splitting the property up, he’d probably be given the benefit of the doubt as the aggreived party. The only thing he gains in going about it the way he did is that he keeps his son’s mother around, and he allows his son the chance to grow up in the same home as his half-sister.

    If it were me, i’d divorce her and explain to my son what happened. I’d live in the same town so that my son could still see his sister regularly, AND so he could see his whore mom drift off into social oblivion, eventually landing in section 8 housing i’m sure.

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  40. on January 9, 2013 at 5:55 pm Lucky White Male

    I know a guy who is raising an illegitimate son from his wife’s whoring – , along with 2 other natural children with his whore wife.

    The illegitimate kid has red hair, the other two have black hair. The whole situation is obvious to everyone, yet no one says anything.

    It gets worse: the guy KNEW his wife was cheating on him, WHILE IT WAS HAPPENING. He knew who the guy was, while his wife was fucking him

    One night, early in the marriage, this guy called another guy I know, his buddy. He wanted to take a ride. He drove my friend across the city, parked in front of a house.

    “My wife is in there with another guy.”

    He then broke down crying at the steering wheel. Did not get out of the car, did not bust into the house. Nothing. Broke down crying. They left 10 minutes later.

    The surprising thing: the cheated husband is not what you would instantly call a beta. He is a good-looking guy, socially calibrated, even “cool”

    Of course, I know this whole situation, and everything cool about this guy is negated permanently.

    I personally cannot even be around him. Literally I cannot go to a gathering if I know he will be there. It makes me physically sick to see this guy’s decision, let alone the whoring wife.

    Here is the important point: After witnessing this personally, you have to understand that there are many men who are congentially cuckolds.

    There is some terminal weakness in these men where they actually attract on some level women who will cheat on, and humiliate them.

    I believe there’s a connection between a Mother who was an “abandoning mother” or “distant mother” and a son who is attracted to a woman who is untrustworthy.

    If you don’t work this stuff out in therapy (a scam of its own, another post) .. you basically buy into the pattern.

    A generation of sons with divorced, working mothers… this adds up to weakened frightened young men attracting mannish, “independent women” whores.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 11:42 pm Days of Broken Arrows

      Wow. What a story. I assume the two guys in the car were gonna knock on the door and beats the sh*t out of the wife’s lover.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 5:01 am ron

        You can only pull that off with real friends. Thank G-d I have real friends.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 1:51 pm Anonymous

        At that point, you sorta have to… otherwise you’ve brought your buddy along to say “Look how much of a pussy I am, my wife’s f*cking another dude!” instead.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 10:30 am J.M.

        Yea and good beating to the wife too.

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 2:44 pm Scott

      Sounds like the William Macy character from Boogie Nights. “What’s the problem Little Bill? The problem is there’s a guy in there fucking my wife!”

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 10:56 pm corvinus

      Umm… yeah. That little incident pretty much branded him with a scarlet letter L for LOOZER. I wouldn’t want to hang around with him either.

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  41. on January 9, 2013 at 5:57 pm AlephMale

    My friend’s wife got knocked up by an unemployed thug. She promised to never cheat on him again if he’d raise the kid as his own. He agreed but the arrangement didn’t last long – she was sneaking out to bars less than a month after giving birth.

    To top it off, unemployed thug decided he wanted to be a father to his new daughter and went to court to try to get partial custody. My friend ponied up some serious cash to get a lawyer to (unsuccessfully) fight against it.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 6:06 pm Sidewinder

      I’m sorry but your friend sounds pathetic. He should divorce this wretch and help the Thug get custody.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 9:51 pm AlephMale

        Divorce came about six months later over other stuff.

        Thug has weekend custody and supports his daughter by selling weed.

        The mom is still going out three times a week and getting wasted and fucking strange guys. She tells everyone she’s 23 and had no kids even though she’s a 30 year old mother of two.

        My friend is damaged beyond all belief and moved back in with his dad.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 10:22 pm obsessivecakedisorder

        Have you given him the link to this site?

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 7:04 pm Pliw

      The mil is lying to reduce the humiliation for her son, not to cover up for the slut

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 3:30 pm Flavia

      That scenario is why the word fag was invented. No disrespect to homosexuals. Your wife’s friend’s husband is a huge fag.

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  42. on January 9, 2013 at 6:14 pm Anonymous

    Let’s just explore this black hole of Calcutta…
    1) Many white women love hook up with black dudes on the sly. The preppie handbook even has a chapter on this.
    2) Black men love to beat the shit out of white betas on orders from (1). The is why you avoid (1).
    3) Divorce court means the end of his life financially (alimony, child support). He will never see her son. His wife and son will be another of the mass of state-supported bastards/cock carousel riders.
    4) His son will be an epic fuck ups raised by a single mother. Narcissic, weirdly hyper masculine brash and creepy feminine at the same time (as the products of single mothers are … see rap music. Thuggish bravado, but shut up about yourself already you designer whore).

    You call him beta, but he’s got a gun pointed at his head (figuratively and likely literally if she is still in contact with the real daddy). You are blaming the victim!!

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 9:58 am Hugh G. Rection

      At one point you gotta cut your losses and stop being a victim.

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 10:58 pm corvinus

      Women hate betas. And most available alphas are either white or black. In this case, it happened to be a black guy.

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  43. on January 9, 2013 at 6:17 pm mindstar

    The law has a few concepts which will prevent out BOTM from getting justice. One of them “condonation” which askjoe alluded to earlier and which is that if you are aware of a spouse’s adultery and you do NOT divorce them within a specific time period (varies from state to state) you are considered to have forgiven or condoned that adultery and can no longer use it as grounds for divorce. This is no longer an issue since all states now have some form of no-fault divorce. New York was the last holdout and no-fault became law here in 2010. He also has the “presumption of illegitimacy” which means a child conceived during a marriage is presumed to be a child of the marriage unless proved to the contrary very quickly. He’s supported this child for “a few years” so he is SOL on that. Lastly and most important one is “collateral estoppel”. In BOTM’s case because he has accepted/supported his wife’s illegitimate child he will still be required to support the kid in the event of a divorce even though he is not the father since he has a relationship with that child. Note this would apply even if he’d only recently learned the child was not his since the courts feel that its more important for the child to be supported than to do what is fair for the cuckolded husband.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 6:26 pm askjoe

      that’s it!

      It is a bit of an old school idea.

      but say, whatever happened to some red state ballot proposals for strengthening marriage laws (Louisiana?). Probably nothing.

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  44. on January 9, 2013 at 6:17 pm Zampano

    The only reasonable thing to do in this situation is to kill her with your bare hands. Temporary Alpha ahem I mean Insanity.

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  45. on January 9, 2013 at 6:21 pm Senior Beta

    Thought you went overboard with the “black soul” reference about a girl in an old post. Not here.

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  46. on January 9, 2013 at 6:30 pm GreggyO

    This is why women don;t deserve “equality” or “rights.” Lady, tell your son that you are a whore, and your daughter. She should have her legal status changed to “minor” and be placed under her husband as his ward. Unbelievable.

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  47. on January 9, 2013 at 6:33 pm DirkJohanson

    Gorillas will often kill the pre-existing child of their current mate, so I can only imagine how gorillas would respond to being cuckolded.

    Even gorillas in the wild have more equitable gender relations than Americans.

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  48. on January 9, 2013 at 6:57 pm Tartarus

    I’d have taken both kids and bolted.

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  49. on January 9, 2013 at 6:59 pm realmatt

    cuckolded by a black man who left you with a little gift…Oh god that is truly a double death.

    He should have left her when she was pregnant and took the son.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 9:14 pm thwack

      they didn’t find out till it was born. This is what happens fellas, when your woman breaks up with you for 2 weeks.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 10:25 pm Confederate Girl

        only if the humans are into bestiality 🙂

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 5:08 am ron

        I have this fantasy, where thwack, Greg, Confederate girl and Maya all get together for a hate filled orgy of group sex, sadomaschism and all sorts of weird shit involving drugs, a midget and a donkey. It culminates with confed girl getting pregnant by Maya.

        It’s seriously fucked up man.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 1:37 pm Greg Eliot

        Aren’t there enough Yahudi fantasies on this site already, Schlomo?

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 1:38 pm Greg Eliot

        Interesting… I used the J word in my first attempt at the above post and it disappeared.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 2:17 pm Starets

        Interesting how the YKW mind so often turns to such sick forms of degeneracy.

        Which shows just how unfortunate it is that they have such a large influence on Western culture these days.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 11:00 pm corvinus

        1) For a guy whose gravatar profile is named “tickletik”, I wouldn’t be making such flippant remarks.

        2) Maya is saving up her virginity for Heartsy, so any orgy would have to involve him, or not involve her. Get it right.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 4:08 pm Matthew King (King A)

        I have this fantasy, where thwack, Greg, Confederate girl and Maya…

        Typical. When leftist-beta pansies meet harsh reality they immediately retreat to fantasy. And the perverseness of the fantasy is directly proportional to the fantasist’s private estimation of his own sissy nature.

        Perversion results from a frustration of nature. If one can’t express one’s desires the normal way — i.e., by making his mark upon the world — it finds expression in little indulgences which sufficiently mimic the feelings of control, such as fetishes. He can’t fuck a woman in the manner or frequency he dreams about, but he can screw the family dog/put on mom’s panties to his heart’s content.

        Therefore he conjures a fantasy about his enemies: if I could control them, I would express my disagreement with their ideas by forcing them to indulge in the sicknesses emblematic of my own sorry circumstance.

        Yeah, faggot. You’re more transparent than you allow yourself to imagine.

        Matt

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 4:23 pm Greg Eliot

        Back in the saddle again… that’s more like it. 🙂

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  50. on January 9, 2013 at 7:09 pm Burton

    ….we are far from living in a sane world.

    Indeed.

    Overall, great article, with acid edged prose becoming poetry.

    Add it to the Red Pill Anthology.

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  51. on January 9, 2013 at 7:17 pm Burton

    Anon said… I believe that we are approaching a future in which most women are single mothers. Maybe they are inseminated by sperm donators. Thereby they will have lost control over which male should be the father of their child. It will also be possible for society to decide the gender of children and as redundant men are violent we will see a reduction of male children.

    However, women will see no equalities between the sexes. In the upper class women will still choose to form families as they have always done. And in this class we will see a preponderance of boy children. The men will hold the power of society and lower class women will only be slaves in reproduction and production.

    Fascinating scenario. Might make a good sci fi novel.

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    • on January 11, 2013 at 10:29 pm obsessivecakedisorder

      There’s already a dystopian take on women’s rights and reproduction. It’s The Handmaid’s Tale. Well, not so dystopian around here, I supopse.

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  52. on January 9, 2013 at 7:19 pm Wade

    A few years back I saw a white guy on Maury Povich, you know he does “you da baby’s daddy” shows, and this white pussy’s wife had a mulatto child a baby and this guy THOUGHT this Obama type was HIS, that is how stupid they are, and then Maury had to break the bad news to him and he was crying and then knelt at her feet pledging his undying love to this coal-burner whore.

    Stay cool Heartiste dude
    LL/LR

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 9:38 pm PA

      I saw that too. It was clear that the duped guy had a mild form of mental retardation.

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  53. on January 9, 2013 at 7:20 pm whorefinder

    The best thing about zebra-breeders is you can spot them right away. It makes me thankful niggers have the mark of Cain upon them. Better to know which women are gutter trash that you can say or do ALMOST ANYTHING to and 1) never feel bad; and 2) suffer zero consequences.

    I mean, when a chick is into bestiality, her psyche is fucked anyways. If you saw a woman who voluntarily bred with a goat, an had an ugly stupid, braying goat-child, would this scream “mentally and emotionally competent” to you?

    Feel free to smack zebra-breeders around should you pump-and-dump them, or else boldly insult them in public; they’ll either silently take it, or else scream like a Jerry Springer guest, who, despite their loud cries, have nothing to back them up. (No lie: once saw a man hanging with a seemingly ok white woman and her zerba-spawn in tow, and he went behind her and LIFTED HER SHIRT up right in public, thus forcing her to flash the small restaurant. She just took it and put her head down, and they went on to eat dessert.)

    BTW, this is what your tax money is supporting, everyone: trashy single moms of zebras (because black guys don’t stick around, baby) ,and nigger-fuckers who find some deluded non-nigger to support them (ditto).

    Forward!

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 10:27 pm Confederate Girl

      I mean, when a chick is into bestiality, her psyche is fucked anyways. If you saw a woman who voluntarily bred with a goat, an had an ugly stupid, braying goat-child, would this scream “mentally and emotionally competent” to you?

      well said

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  54. on January 9, 2013 at 7:23 pm Jason

    Epic post.

    My friend worked with a guy nicknamed Grumpy Dan. One day the office found out the reason for Grumpy Dan’s grumpiness: The exact same cuckold-pregnancy had happened to him six months earlier. He’d been trying to keep it under wraps while he divorced the cheating whore.

    Soon thereafter he quit and moved to Brazil. MGTOW.

    Do they extradite in Brazil?

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  55. on January 9, 2013 at 7:34 pm Jason

    H: What about a post leading us through the life cycle of a female narcissist as she enters, rises through, and crashes out of the sexual marketplace?

    I’d attempt it, but you’d do it better.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 10:56 pm whorefinder

      I’d attempt it, but you’d do it better.

      —This is also what Sweetheart says when he brings the ghetto boys into his room to please his woman for him.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 2:59 pm Jason

        dumb

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  56. on January 9, 2013 at 7:38 pm newyorker

    ‘I’m loathe to come down too hard on this guy, who probably decided it was better to minimize the fallout from a really shitty situation than to seek the justice that was rightfully his from the insult of his wife’s awesome betrayal.’

    hmmm… i think, (again!) that your rant is an overreaction.

    my guess is that the couple are in a _very_ ‘open relationship’, others in their social circle know about it, so the existence of the mulatto kid is not as big a deal. maybe the real dad is contributing to her upkeep for all we know. maybe the mom’s pulling in a lot of money at a great job so it’s not such a burden on the husband. who knows?

    the fact that she didn’t get an abortion which would be the first thing most wives would do indicates this is an unusual couple to say the least. a ‘sophisticated’ one whose ‘marriage’ is a convenient fiction and one who travels in circles where this understanding is common. so the wife screwing and bearing the lover’s child doesn’t add up to impugning the husband’s masculinity or disrespecting him. maybe for this crowd such an attitude would be considered hopelessly bourgeois and uncool.

    just a thought, CH. you haven’t been everywhere.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 8:32 pm Chris from Dublin

      Hang on … Heartiste has long since dealt with the SWPL conundrum where these trendies with their uber-cool exterior have a belly so soft that all it takes is one bad boy to crush them

      Topper / Tinsley.
      Jodie / Ryan

      …… think back

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 10:46 pm lights

      degenerate.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 11:02 pm whorefinder

      lol.

      Any “man” who is in an “open relationship” with a woman is either 1) just fuck buddies with her (i.e. no investment at all, clearly not the case here, as they are married, living together, and he is raising the children); or 2) a total beta bitch.

      Men do not share their women. Period. Beta fags do.

      The only committed open relationship for a man to be in is where she sleeps with only him and he gets to screw around with whatever poontang pleases him

      Get a fucking clue.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 11:01 pm corvinus

        +1

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 6:40 pm NiteLily

        “Men do not share their women. Period. Beta fags do.”

        Amen!
        But how many men are accepting their woman sleep with other man? At least 50%. They’re usually lefties.

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  57. on January 9, 2013 at 7:56 pm yeap

    I would have thought the husband of the olympic runner turned professional whore was a shoe in for beta of the month….

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 11:12 pm whorefinder

      True dat.I would posit them both at least a tie.

      However, the race angle probably is to play up those of us in the Steve Sailer mold. And, of course, given the relentless march of leftism since Obama (our nigger president) took office, its more than just a traffic-driver.

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 6:45 am driveallnight

      Same here. But this makes the pro runner’s husband look almost Putinesque.

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  58. on January 9, 2013 at 8:20 pm gramps

    Well, don’t forget. This is his first time going through this. It is easy to make mistakes the first time you do anything.

    But, I shudder to think of what he has done. The wife? Just another cheating white slut. Run of the mill. I wonder if she realizes that her brown daughter will be rejected by black men, like her lover, in favor of almost any white woman. Black men treat black women like sh*t. I wonder what they know we don’t.

    BTW, just read in Afghanistan a prisoner, serving time for killing some of his wife’s family, murdered his wife on a conjugal visit because HIS mother told him she had been unfaithful to him.

    What the hell are we trying to change their society for?

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    • on January 11, 2013 at 9:57 am thwack

      gramps
      . Black men treat black women like sh*t. I wonder what they know we don’t.
      ———————————————————-

      i’ll tell you what. It ain’t nothin you ain’t about to be taught.

      Racism is one giant, nonstop, life time shit test. So by the time a woman rolls up to dump her shit on me, my fist is already balled up and Im ready to knock her through a fish tank.

      Bitch.

      I gotta deal with all these great white sharks out here, and you expect me to put up with your mouth?

      Oh hell no.

      Its like this, when my woman rolls up on me with her 7th degree black belt, I hafta knock her the fuck out in order for her to understand were I got my skillz

      This is critical.

      I got my skillz by takin beatdowns (but Im still pretty as a girl)

      SHE wants to get her skillz out a catalog, or online university.

      It don’t work that way.

      This is why men will always be better than women.

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  59. on January 9, 2013 at 8:21 pm iveseenthingsyoupeoplewouldntbelieve

    Beautiful writing. About the story, if the guy had killed his wife upon discovering the news, a court of equity would not touch him. It’s Old Testament stuff, it would be considered restitution, or blood-payment. It’s a lawful killing. Every maxim of law and every great Scripture would be behind him. Even an at-law court would treat him with respect, and do a “by reason of temporary insanity” thing most likely.
    Rather more sensible though, beat her to a bloody pulp, take the legitimate child, sever every contact with her. In fact, take out an injunction to keep her at a distance. Let her stew in her new Hell. Those who whine about the law and use it as an excuse for their actions don’t understand it, or rather don’t want to, and deserve everything they get.
    Mind you, if he had been the kind of guy to do that, he wouldn’t be the kind of guy who would have that done to him, you know? So there’s a circular thing going on which shows you that, in fact, justice has been done here. Everybody got what they wanted. Except for Zeus who’s pissed off now and is gathering lightning bolts, and Noah who’s been told to fucking hurry up with the boat.

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 12:44 am Days of Broken Arrows

      I don’t know what you mean by “court of equity.” But a court in the USA would put him away for a long time and he’d be tried in the media and blamed for not wanting to raise a “vibrant” baby. Look at some of the comments over at the Slate page to gauge public opinion. Liberal women are saying a “real man” would man up and raise this baby.

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 12:09 pm Anonymous

      At best his murder 1 would be reduced to murder 2 based on a “heat of passion” defense, if the evidence supported heat of passion. Either way, the guy would face prison time.

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  60. on January 9, 2013 at 8:34 pm Chris from Dublin

    Some time ago this blog dealt with a respectable American couple who had made every mortgage payment throughout their lives – and who then discovered that they would be better off by being dishonest.

    That is called the “fuck it” moment. When such people cross such a moment, the show is over, the game is lost, the smoke is up, the ship is sunk.

    2013, roll on …

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 5:31 am ron

      The only good thing about this situation is that there is no longer anything left to lose. We can be brave because there is absolutely no point in having fear.

      But first gather good honest friends.

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  61. on January 9, 2013 at 8:39 pm Chris from Dublin

    Returning to the matter of cuckoldry – my mother and father were married and childless for sixteen years, to the point where they thought of themselves as a permanently childless couple and resigned themselves to the fact.
    When they were 43 I was born.
    As I became a man I saw how very closely I resemble my father; in appearance as well as in personality (in some but not every way). There is no question that I am his biological son.

    That is, despite not having children, my mother still wanted him to fuck her into their forties and then conceived a baby.

    My mother said that it was inconceivable to her that she would name me anything other than directly after my father, the most important man in her life. She was always open and blunt about this.

    They are now married 56 years and are 83. She still loves him as much as they day they met.

    I write that as an antidote to the dystopian tale at the start of this post.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 9:27 pm Anonymous

      That was then, this was now, man. Be thankful; I know I am, to be in a situation where I am a legitimate child of a marriage with zero chance of breaking up.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 10:23 pm Chris from Dublin

        Quite

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 9:29 pm thwack

      I write that as an antidote to the dystopian tale at the start of this post.
      —————————————————

      “dystopian?”
      Nigga, are you insane? Its not the end of the world. He’s got a halfbreed daughter, like the president of the United States; where is this “i gotta kill somebody” stuff comin from?

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 9:35 pm Chris from Dublin

        It’s the start of the end.

        Also, it gives decent insight into what male attributes stop a woman from cuckolding. Like my father with my mother.

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      • on January 9, 2013 at 11:07 pm whorefinder

        Its not the end of the world.
        —Just civilization.

        He’s got a halfbreed daughter,
        —Bray, zebra, bray.

        like the president of the United States;
        —the coon leading us deeper into the Greater Depression, burning the 1st amendment, killing U.S. citizens without trial, and letting criminals roam free. With an ugly, loud, rude, stupid Kilingon wife and two nigger brat kids.

        i> where is this “i gotta kill somebody” stuff comin from?
        —say that the next time your nigger homey is found dick deep in your latest baby momma law.

        Nah, you probably like scooping his cum out of her pussy with your dick.

        Fag.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 2:56 pm Jason

        ^^^^^^^^

        Looks like whorefinder is getting out his last bit of deranged hatred before the modding comes back.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 3:53 pm thwack

        Im not sure what Im witnessing, but Ive never seen a site where murdering women and raping daughters is more acceptable than talking about blacks and Jews?

        [Heartiste: Raping daughters? Are you referring to whorefinder? He can correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe his rape comments are said facetiously in service to the concept of a running gag. As for the others… yeah, it would be great if people exercised a little more quality control in their comments, but such is the curse of an open commenting system.]

        I suspect its because Im black.

        [100% absolutely.]

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 5:59 pm Matthew King (King A)

        Looks like whorefinder is getting out his last bit of deranged hatred before the modding comes back.

        And what a perfect little utopian discourse that will be.

        Your inability to hang with your toughest opponents and your constantly working the refs make you appear to be much more of a pussy than you probably are. Get your soft pink hands dirty, for fucksake.

        Here is some news for you: a man’s respect for other men is not based on the coincidence of ideology. We respect fighters and conquerors, we recognize ourselves in their means regardless of their ends. There’s a reason why proper-sounding teacher’s pets who get A-pluses on every pop propaganda quiz get wedgies. Work on it.

        Matt

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 8:07 pm Jason

        Huh? Whaaa? I ain’t appealing to any ref. Did you not read the modding threat from H above? I got no dog in that hunt. (Well, maybe one: If he starts modding, at least I won’t have to scan through whorefinder’s vicious bizarre ad hominem bullshit that churns the stomach.)

        And you — Matt King (twice, heh), the most annoyingly verbose, head-scratchingly opaque rightwing commenter on the Interwebs — telling me to get my hands dirty is … funny. It’s kind of like a humanities professor (bullseye?) telling someone to get his hands dirty.

        The anger tells me that I’ve struck a chord with past comments.

        I also appreciate the helpful advice and will try to avoid getting my first atomic wedgie, though at 210 lbs and as a former athlete, I don’t think that’s a worry.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 12:56 am Greg Eliot

        The anger tells me that I’ve struck a chord with past comments.

        That may be true… but then you admit to playing harmonic duets with your opponent.

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  62. on January 9, 2013 at 9:05 pm Anonymous

    Had to share.

    From an online (non-adult) cam site, the fruits of feminism:

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  63. on January 9, 2013 at 9:28 pm John

    If he really wants to go out with a bang he can do this as well

    http://www.inquisitr.com/442717/paternity-test-killer-michael-barbar-sentenced-to-death/

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  64. on January 9, 2013 at 9:41 pm Vektor

    Jesus, I wonder if she told him before the actual birth or if waited to see how light/dark the baby was when it came out.

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 9:59 am Greg Eliot

      You know How The West Was Lost when the concept of passing begins in the maternity ward.

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  65. on January 9, 2013 at 10:26 pm Gilbert

    You keep saying, “I am loathe” – but loathe is not an adjective, it is a verb, as in, “I loathe betas and femcunts.” “Loath” is the word you want: “I am loath to give this guy any credit.”

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 6:01 pm Matthew King (King A)

      Great correction. I had forgotten about this.

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  66. on January 9, 2013 at 10:30 pm stg58&Animal Mother

    Man advice: take your son and leave the country. Let the unfaithful one fend for herself, or run back to her mocha messiah. It would be a simple thing to find a woman to take care of your son in South America, and I guarantee a LOT hotter. South American women go nuts for American men.

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  67. on January 9, 2013 at 10:31 pm TheTruthHurts

    “There’s simply no way a man can retain the heft of his balls — whatever he’s carrying — or any shred of honor, sticking by the side of an unfaithful wife who so ostentatiously gelded him, a mixed-race living reminder of his emasculation total yapping at his heels.”

    There is one way. But it involves castrating the wife’s lover in front of her, then keeping his balls in a jar in her closet. A constant reminder of what will happen should she ever stray again.

    Unfortunately our “civilization” frowns on this sort of thing.

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  68. on January 9, 2013 at 10:37 pm Rum

    The kind of satisfaction his hind brain craves and will crave forever would involve the use of some rope -or cable ties-,, and a Bowie Knife.
    He has not done this kind of thing because he has not gone to the trouble of developing that part of his male persona. That water is gone well past that bridge.
    The only way forward that might produce the smallest collateral damage that I can see would consist of the cuckholded guy amping up hard on physical abilities and the clarity of his mind such that when , Zeus be willing, he encounters an asshole who needs a righteous beat-down and one is duly delivered by him. Not until death, but at least until the point of hysterically begging for his life. It is a strange thing the way people speak when they are convinced they might die within the next few seconds. . I have heard it more than once. It really makes an impression.
    Anyway, if whorewife and whorespawn watched this episode and were fully exposed to its MEANING …that might save the children.
    But if nothing like this happens, by and by the kids will hate all of the adults involved. Fortunately for them, they will find all the company they can stand.

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    • on January 9, 2013 at 11:51 pm I Beta

      The cuckold can still save his son, but he must act decisively ASAP.

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    • on January 11, 2013 at 3:45 am gunslingergregi

      strange indeed

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 11:04 pm corvinus

      And then Odysseus got to bang Circe for a while.

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  70. on January 9, 2013 at 11:59 pm Phinn

    The only way the filthy coal-burning whore can compound her scum-baggery would be to have contracted a venereal disease from her “lover” (the negro who is conspicuously absent) and infect the white husband who is sacrificing his ENTIRE LIFE to benefit his (white) son.

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  71. on January 10, 2013 at 12:12 am Bruiser

    Thers’ not much he can do to the Negro criminally but thers ‘s the civil tort of “alienation of affection” he can sue him for especially if the nignog has assets.

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  72. on January 10, 2013 at 12:22 am Snake

    What a cursed son goyische kopf has. Right from the start his genes carry omega, his “sister” is an alien, and his mommy a slut. Any system that permits such child abuse deserves divine wrath.

    PS–Norman Rockwell can lick my arse. His pro-integration paintings are high treason. So fuck his America.

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  73. on January 10, 2013 at 12:25 am gaolkeeper

    In ancient Greece a man was allowed to kill the wife and her lover if he caught them in the act and it was done in the heat of passion. I don’t know how a man can stop himself from killing his wife when he finds out where her pregnancy is from. The law should be on his side in that situation. A man should also have a say over abortion, and should be able to force abortion in such a case. I’m sure in pre-Christian times the spawn would have been exposed without a second thought.

    Christians today support the supremacy of the woman because they want to do everything possible to avoid abortion, by the way. They’re not friends of civilization anymore.

    I myself refuse to get married or even get into exclusive relationships. It’s not even a matter of “cheating,” I consider a dishonor if your girlfriend hangs out with a male friend or something similar. So I won’t put myself in that situation. No, I’m obviously not American.

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  74. on January 10, 2013 at 12:30 am Anonymous

    How should I deal with an employee who has slept with my wife?

    Have at it folks: http://workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/7617/how-should-i-deal-with-an-employee-who-has-slept-with-my-wife

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 1:21 am whorefinder

      God what a fag.

      Doubly so because he’s “listening” to the maggot who slept with his wife: “Oh yeah sorry I cuckolded you. Nothing personal. Nothing work related. Move along here. Nothing to see.”

      Her’s what you do: fire the bugger. Have police escort him out. Before he walks out with them, slip a bag of marijuana into his coat pocket (loosely) so it falls out in front of them. Make sure your fingerprints aren’t on it and that the drug dealer can’t be traced to you.

      Either that or slug him senseless at 5pm and quit yourself.

      I don’t care if it burns your company down, act like a man!

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 12:33 pm Strauss

      As the site says “The workplace beta” haha

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  75. on January 10, 2013 at 12:32 am Falconer

    I just want to say that, given the opportunity, I would put a stone cold bullet between this woman’s eyes and then casually walk away as if I had just tossed a wrapper into the waste bin.

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    • on January 11, 2013 at 2:24 am aspic

      So edgy dude.

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  76. on January 10, 2013 at 12:32 am anonymous

    you guys will love this:
    http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Adultery-plot-ends-in-murder-police-say-4180519.php#photo-4006780

    crazy whore wife and her black boyfriend hires black thugs to scare the whore’s husband into moving out of HIS OWN DAMN APARTMENT. How much do you wanna bet that as soon as they get him to move out of the apartment that he’s paid for, the whore and pals move in and they fuck her gangbang style in the husband’s bed, while using the electricity, water, food, and furniture that he paid for.

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    • on January 12, 2013 at 12:01 am Stuki

      Awesome! The husband stabbed one of the rabble to death! And didn’t get in trouble for it even in ultra liberal SF Bay Area! And violence doesn’t solve anything, heh?

      Now, if this dystopian shole could just evolve a little further, perhaps we once again could arrive at the gold standard for dealing with cases such as the one described in this blog post: Stone the whore, shoot the cad and bludgeon the bastard, all until death. Then, perhaps, we would once again be on the way towards something that could be considered a civilized place.

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      • on January 12, 2013 at 12:24 am Greg Eliot

        Negro intra-racial violence… hence, no nationwide drama.

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  77. on January 10, 2013 at 2:25 am Ace Haley

    This reminds me of why “The Predatory Female” is such a good book. The guy fell for it hook, line and sinker and is getting screwed. Surprise surprise

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  78. on January 10, 2013 at 2:28 am Ace Haley

    Cuckoldry is the most humiliating thing a woman can do to a man. What’s on that level is MAKING him pay child support for a child that’s NOT his.

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  79. on January 10, 2013 at 2:31 am ttaz4dqm

    If I may just leave a few hopeful words? My son-in-law just got free of a fat-linda-harridan of the highest order, and when he got his day in court with her recently, she expected to get 1)full custody of their two toddler sons and 2)enough spousal support so that she would not have to work(she’s already living with/sponging off some poor slob). This is a critter who is an unfit mother for reasons too numerous to list here (amongst other things, she went out while they were still married and caught herself not one, but two STD’s), suffice to say she is a worthless human being, regardless of gender. Thanks to his presence of mind, honest presentation, and good documentation, the judge actually saw what the situation was. He got custody, and the judge all but laughed at her support request. She’s getting a small stipend for the next two months and then bupkiss forever-after. You should have seen the look on her fat face 🙂 …

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 1:43 pm Greg Eliot

      A host of angels have recently gotten their wings. 😉

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 3:42 pm LynxViridis

      In my country, Sweden, things are also not hopeless and thats’ why I mention it here, so that men still may have some hope. I also go custody of my kids after my ex-wife threw absurd and obscene accusations at me in court and in social authorities investigations. I took a few years of uncertainty and all my savings (and more, while she as an unemployed got her lawyers paid for by the tax payers), though. But if a man keeps cool, provides documentation, is fairly well mannered he can succeed despite the fact that laws and regulations are stacked against men also here in Sweden.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 6:49 pm Skunk

        Is it true that Swedish men are expected to sit down when they piss?

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 6:39 am LynxViridis

        More or less nowadays, yes. That doesn’t mean we do it, though. 🙂

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 11:17 am the fauvist

        Good to hear that you had justice done, it must have been a tough fight but definitely one worth winning.

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 11:07 pm corvinus

      Yay. Fat broads deserve no mercy.

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    • on January 11, 2013 at 11:55 pm Stuki

      Is anyone compiling a list over sane (ok, less insane) judges and jurisdictions in cases like this? And could one move, or otherwise effect where ones case is heard?

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  80. on January 10, 2013 at 4:05 am chris

    Better to kill a man than cuckold him.

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  81. on January 10, 2013 at 4:52 am Markku

    I count my blessings that I live in a much saner country than the USA. In Finland, there is no alimony. In absence of a prenup, assets are split 50-50 (negative wealth is considered zero for the purpose of asset division). If a marriage lasted for less than two years, a court may deviate from 50-50 in favor of the wealthier of the spouses. The only time a prenup may not hold is when the marriage has lasted for a considerable length of time or when the result would be “grossly unfair”, however, exceptions to the 50-50 rule are very rare.

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 10:14 am Hugh G. Rection

      All assets or just those acquired during the marriage?

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    • on January 11, 2013 at 6:42 am LynxViridis

      How about custoduy of the kids, Markku? In SE c:a 90% of all court fights end up in the womans favor, keeping the kids along with alimony/child support and the man getting to see them every second week-end (unless she moves far away which under those circumstances she usually gets away with legally).

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  82. on January 10, 2013 at 5:15 am dannyfrom504

    Please stop posting these. It gives me douche chills reading about these guys.

    My balls are hiding out close to my liver ATM.

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  83. on January 10, 2013 at 7:02 am Scray

    Comment on OP: Wow, holy crap. That’s disgusting. How can anyone just rationalize away all accountability? “For the children?!” More like for membership among the castrati, singing joyful odes to the mighty vagina. Even in my most beta of moments, I’d never dream of remaining in such a relationship. How would any man convince himself of something so stupid? “Herp derp, she completely emasculated me, betrayed my trust, but herp derp, I should raise some bastard kid because herp derp, that kid deserves better — nevermind the behavior that brought about said kid — my wife is such a unique person/snowflake/daffodil, yay her emotions!” Gross.

    I’m going to try and do field reports every day I go out (I remember more the day of).

    Field Report Weds:

    All right, so I kept things simple. I got together an opener and a DHV routine, and allowed those to carry me as far as they could. So, before I go out with my “Project PUA” friends, I go to a bar to watch a college basketball game. My focus? Just being more alpha. And it’s simple. I just sort of lean back in my chair, I make slow movements, I talk slowly. No real change during the game. I make idle chat during the game about various plays/players/etc. Here’s what I notice after the game. I’m like — “Yeah, I’m out, goin’ home…got shit to do.” Everyone turns to me and is like ‘no, you’re not leaving yet! What the fuck? Let’s do x, y, z…blah blah blah.” Long story short I ended up playing several rounds of pool and shuffleboard with them, but the weird thing is that…for the first time in awhile, I just felt like part of the group — like my presence made a difference. I dunno, hard to explain I guess. Small thing.

    Now, on to the rest of the evening. First, I go to my friend’s house — usually we alternate between who has to drive where. And he’s like “Okay, you need to ditch your patterned sweater/hoodie, the weird T-shirt, and the ‘nice’ (air quoted) Skechers.” I just kinda tilt my head, and he’s like “Get a cool t-shirt or a button-down, a blazer, and just normal nice shoes or boots. You’re 26, almost done with grad school, and you work at a respectable place — fucking act like it. You don’t spend most of your time watching people do -sick- tricks in half-pipes.” So, I nod, and I actually head to my house to make the changes (I own blazers and stuff for work and nice shoes and different t-shirts).

    We ride to Club 1. We think Club 1 will be awesome — it’s locals night + open bar. Turns out…despite a good location, Club 1 is terrible. Literally, when we arrived, Club 1 had ONE girl there. And she was there with some guy. Now, we got to the bar, where this girl — a solid 6.5-7 (dark lighting unsure) — sits. My friend, before even getting a free drink, opens her. He’s talking to her. I wait for a bit and get my drink — just a bud light, I ain’t gonna get drunk. Then I walk on over and engage the dude in conversation. Now, it’s clear from what me and my friend piece together that they are out on their first date and really have little history. So, I occupy the guy…talking about music, work, etc. while my friend engages the target. Eventually, he peters out, and I want to get another bud light. So I leave the guy to get the drink. I ask my friend ‘okay, who else is there to open?’ He shrugs with a laugh “I dunno…that’s insane, I’ve never been in a club where there aren’t any targets. What the FUCK? Let’s walk…YOU lead, and we’ll figure it out.” So, we walk around, and we notice — finally — this set of what appear to be three girls at the bar. We’re walking at a weird angle and I totally bitch out and keep right on in that craven stride. My friend is like ‘what the…you already fucked up!”

    I’m like ‘yeah……shit….well I gotta take a piss…let’s regroup after.” I go, do my business, and when I walked out of the bathroom I was just like ‘fuck this, let’s go…” And I walk toward the set again, this time approaching closer — I force myself to slow down. Then I turn toward them and say

    “Hey guys…I can only stay for a sec, got friends waiting, but actually…quick question….”

    Now, out of nowhere, I say -this-

    “…since I’ve been here, two girls have asked me for weed.”

    It just flies out of my flapping lips, and I go to continue talking, but I notice that they have a reaction…they’re surprised.

    “Yeah, so do I look like a drug dealer to you?”

    Now, one of the set steps forward…black, 6…I’d give her extra points because she had an uber feminine thing going on (can’t explain it, just really warm voice and demeanor), but a raw 6. She starts to engage the question, hmming, and hawwing.

    “I know, right?”

    Then, I FORCE MYSELF TO REACT TO HER…like, to pretend as though I’m noticing something. I pause, and I tilt my head, then point in her direction as though the Perspicacity Gods graced me in a single moment.

    “Wait, you’re a hairdresser right?”

    Blah blah, she’s taken aback, I don’t really listen, because I know what comes next.

    “Well, my friend is a hairdresser, and she always wears her hair like that.”

    She nods, and I nod back — I fail to really mirror her though, because I’m facing away and out, and she’s looking directly at me, open stance.

    “By the way, she thinks I should get a green mohawk — now see, on the one hand I should trust her, because she’s hot, but on the other hand, she could be fucking with me…what do you think?”

    I kinda block out my hair to demonstrate the hypothetical mohawk. She takes her time with it.

    “So you’re not a hairdresser, what are you?”

    She tells me she doesn’t work right now and that she’s gonna be a nurse, blah blah blah. Then, I notice several bodies moving. Turns out, that set of three girls is a set of -five- girls. They all scatter from the bar, I blink — oh shit, I really failed to engage everyone, oh man. Here comes friendo to engage. However, problem…I don’t think he knew who was the target and who were the obstacles, because the first person he engaged was the person I was talking to. So, I just turn and I talk to another girl in this big all-girl set….easy 8. Funny shit…I try the same routine on her, and she just is -not- having it. But I play it to the bone, even with the hairdresser (I link it by saying, ‘I was just telling your friend blah blah blah blah.’) I look back, and my friend has stopped talking to the initial target and started talking to another girl in that group, a 6. Eventually it just peters out and the all move to a booth in which to sit — we pretty much weren’t invited. I decide to just go with my gut. We failed…overwhelmed in some way. So I’m like “fuck, man.”

    He’s like “dude, that was awesome. You opened them. We’re rockstars in this club right now. Look at all these faggots in their nice clothes just standing around. We’ve literally talked to -all- the girls in this place.”

    I’m like “yeah but this club sucks, let’s go somewhere else.”
    He’s like “aight.”

    After some more idle chit-chat with the original 6.5-7 at the bar, we leave.

    Next venue:

    Nothing to write home about here. When we walk in, I notice — as I’m walking past — a group of four girls. All of them are fucking hot, save one, who isn’t ugly, she’s just less hot. Like 8.5-9 (I say she was a 9, but friend is like nah, she’s like an 8…8.5 probably), 8, 7, 5.5-6. And I dunno, maybe it was the slight buzz of alcohol, but I shit you not, I became a warrior in that pass. Me and my friend leaned on the bar, and I was like ‘okay, I’m going to walk toward the bathroom, come back, and open those bitches.’ I proceeded to do just that.

    I open all of them at once.

    “Hey I gotta get back to my friends, but…well, since I’ve been here two girls have asked me for weed. So….I mean, do I look like a drug dealer?”

    Here’s the shocking thing….that resistance from the other night? Gone. Replaced by — it wasn’t attraction — but just this sort of open-mindedness. Like, they all gave me their focus, and it felt like…’all right kid, you’ve got a few minutes — WOW us.” They all look at one another, and it’s sort of a tepid ‘nah, not really, I mean…yeah nah….”

    I point at the 9 (yeah, that’s fucking right) and just say “you’re a hairdresser, right.”

    Now, I immediately notice something different about hitting on a really hot (at least in my mind she’s a 9) chick. I like it way better. I feel more aggressive. Inflection after ‘right?’ Questions are for pussy betas. I AM right. She tilts her head and is like ‘well, no…” I follow it up….same routine, friend is a hairdresser. She laughs, and is like ‘yeah! I actually know a lot of hairdressers who wear it this way.” Now….listen, this may sound stupid, but liiiiike….having a 9 legit show interest in what I said there just was….well….just about the best thing ever. And I respond “yeah, with the bright blonde and the wavy curls.” Then, one of the other friends makes a motion — at first I thought she was making a blowjob motion, to insult me, but then I’m like ‘what’s going on over here?’ and her friends inform me that this one — the 5.5-6 — is ACTUALLY a hairdresser. I’m about to riff on that thread, probably go into something about how she should meet my hairdresser friend blah blah….when my friend shows up. He enters the set like the Allies entered the beaches of Normandy. The first thing he says is ‘oh hey, have you met him?’ indicating me. They blink, as though that’s weird, and say ‘uh yeaaaah.’ Then, my friend engages me. Something shifts in the interaction, and ALL of them turn away.

    So we eject…my friend is like ‘ahhh shit, totally misread everything about that. I’m sorry man, that one chick was fucking smokin” and that’s where we proceeded to wonder whether she was an 8.5 or a 9 for 20 seconds. My friend actually wandered into another room in the club, where a live band was playing. I followed for a sec, but then I was like ‘it’s too fucking loud in here, let’s go talk to bitches!’ He’s like ‘ya, in a sec.’

    I go back into the club, I glide up to the bar. There’s this gothy chick there at the bar — I dig it, she’s pretty cute…6.5, so I sidle up to it. I just make idle chit chat, like ‘oh yeah, you guys gotten their attention yet? I can never get their attention.’ She smirks and is like ‘nah, but yeah I know what you mean.’ And then I’m like ‘you from around here?” she’s like “yeah…” and I’m like “is this a cool place…” she launches into an explanation of the place. Slowly my mind starts working — she’s being way friendly, despite the fact that I didn’t use any of the material, so….I should pay attention to how I am right now. My profile was to her, I was facing the bar, standing straight, and my head was turned. Plus, I was talking slowly. We talk some more, then some guy sitting next to her interjects — we get into a conversation, and he identifies her as his girlfriend.

    Phuck. Maybe she was friendly because she was just with a dude. Whatever, opened another set, right?

    I return to the backroom, where this live band is playing. Some girl on the dancefloor introduces herself to me, a solid 7. Immediately, inside I either think that the Universe has finally decided to smile upon me or that this bitch is probably taken. The latter turns out to be true — she introduces me to her boyfriend. I’m like ‘man fuck this shit,’ and, after failing to find my friend, I step back out into the main area. I find him at the bar, drinking another drink. He’s like ‘go open those four girls’ and I’m like ‘yeah, those are the ones I already opened.’ He laughs…’hmph, well there aren’t any other good groups to open here.’ So I’m like ‘then let’s get to gettin’.’

    Next venue:

    We walk into the mainroom, it’s more of a pub — not that many people, but still plenty of targets. Upstairs runs more like a club. So we go upstairs, and immediately my friend opens this 8. Now, I feel like a tool, and I immediately turn around to head back downstairs. On the way, I spot a 5.5 and a 7 sitting down. The thought was — shit, if I could get a 9 to laugh, surely I could do something with these chicks.

    So, I pulled the same routine. But I dunno, something about it just clicked this time.

    The 7 (who had a stylish, Zooey Deschenal thing going) laughs and actually gives a banter answer. “Nah, you don’t look like a drug dealer, but in that blazer you look like you’re ready to do some lines.”

    I actually laugh.

    “What….who….ME? No-I-would-never!”

    We share a laugh — the 5.5’s laughter is a bit more restrained.

    I point to her and I do the hairdresser bit — she turns toward me. It’s convenient that she has a style so similar to Zooey Deschenal’s — really makes the hairdresser comment seem more genuine, and she really responds to it.

    Then, I get to my hairdresser thing about the green mohawk. They’re into it. I pull the same ‘is she fucking with me?’ bit. Now, she’s laughing. Then, I launch into my DHV story — finnnaaaaallllly. I talk about how my crazy hairdresser friend pushed some 6’4 guy at a concert and then said I was going to fight him. Then, I…pretty drunk, but determined not to back down, just set down my drink, opened up my arms and said ‘we’re gonna fight? you can’t just get along with people? Okay…….let’s fucking fight then.’ The guy took a step back, smiled, and then apologized to me. (That’s a real story — swap hairdresser for ex-gf). The 7 really enjoys it, but the 5.5 gets back onto the topic about the mohawk, and she’s like ‘well, do you mean a mohawk or a faux-hawk?’

    At this point, I act as though that’s a really interesting distinction and take the opportunity to sit down across from them. Now, I just instinctively start to focus on the 5.5, because I dunno…I read Ya’s comment about the other ‘STFU girl’ and was like ‘try to ingratiate yourself a little to the obstacle.’ So, I spend time talking with her about stuff and actually kind of cooling it with the 7. Where does she go to school? Oh the local university, no shit? I go there too — grad school style, almost done. They’re impressed.

    I — acting a little ADD while the obstacle talks, bring the 7 back into conversation by pointing at a pyramid shaped ring she has —

    “What is that?”

    She lifts up her hand for me to see….I laugh

    “Holy shit, I thought that was a ring pop.”

    She laughs, “I wish!”

    “Me too! But then, I’d probably hate you because I mean…you’d still have a FULL ring pop left. What kind of person doesn’t eat the ring pop?!”

    She still laughs.

    Then I tell her friend to make up a story about the ring. The 7’s story is something about Egypt, and the other’s story is about her family owning a diamond mine. I go with the obstacle’s story and then resume the conversation with the obstacle. She says her previous major was psychology, I ask her if she’s good at reading people.

    So then….I say something that I think was pretty golden (I’m gonna keep using it).

    “Oh really? You’re good at analyzing people? What’s -her- biggest fear?”

    She hmms and haws with it a little, but I totally know they’re intrigued. Easy to see and feel. I smile (now, this whole time I’ve been facing away from them a bit in my body language, and they’ve been turned toward me…now, I bring myself in), and say “How about -I- go first?”

    I make a little show about “okay this is personal” blah blah blah.
    Then I say…”my biggest fear is to skydive into a pool full of sharks that then eat me alive.”

    They start to laugh, and I laugh too, but I’m like ‘no that’s serious, it’s real.’
    We talk about it for a bit, then she reveals the target’s fear, which is “moving on” from her first love or whatever. I don’t dwell on it, I just spin it into something else like ‘ahhh relationships, that’s interesting….yeah that can be tough, hmmmmmm…let me guess.’ I point at both

    “you’re an aquarius….”

    The target just lights up — like ‘how did you know?!’ blah blah blah. Lucky guess. Right now, I’m feeling pretty awesome.

    “…and you’re a Sagittarius…”

    Survey says incorrect on the second one. But the obstacle likes me, and she gives me a hint — stubborn, so I guess Taurus. Suddenly, the obstacle is like ‘hey, are you here alone?’ Ah shit….where is he? Time for an executive decision. I say that I’m here with a friend and that we’re actually trying to find a girl that keeps texting me to come to a bar, but she keeps failing to tell us where (I’m so sure I must have read about this gambit somewhere). The good news is that I actually do have a female friend who sort of could fit that bill. And that friend is decently attractive.

    Target immediately asks to see pictures of her. God bless America.

    Then, like an angel from on high, my friend swoops in again. Introductions all around, and I immediately start about our “friend.” He rolls with it easily, then proceeds to tackle the warpig like Teddy Roosevelt on Safari (Ha, okay she wasn’t a warpig….but I mean…I dunno, compared to her friend…).

    Strangely enough, this is where I start to struggle. I have everything I want…an alone conversation with this girl who seems to be attracted. It kind of falters…I mean, I dunno. I feel like I told several cool stories that were fun and whatnot, but I didn’t really get to find out a whole lot about her, if that makes any sense. I did comment on her phone’s wallpaper — the Beatles. And we did have a cool conversation about them. About which period of the Beatles were our favorites, about which Beatles we liked best, etc. I managed to kino a little with her (incidental, just putting my hand on her arm when lightly teasing). Probably the best thing I did — again much props to Ya — was roleplay. Remember that whole story about the diamond mine? Well, I asked her at one point

    “Okay, remember your fake story for the ring. We’re going to practice. Pretend you just met me — which you did!”

    And then she nods, and I look away, then affect a snooty voice.

    “Ahhh yes, how do you do, my name is Reginald Ringmaker, of the Ringmakers — the ring standard, yesss. May I ask about this trinket of yours?”

    She repeats the story, and I twiddle an invisible mustache.

    “How droll! We should arrange a marriage swiftly and combine diamonds and rings, why, why…we’ll be unstoppable!”

    She laughs and actually starts mimicking the snooty voice ‘yess, yess we should!”

    After awhile (whole interaction was over an hour long), their ride arrives. So, I just kind of say…”well, I’d like to continue this conversation.” And the target smiles and says ‘yeah!” So…I proceed to get both obstacle and target’s numbers (I regret this in retrospect. I should have been more direct, I think…in showcasing interest for only the target).

    But…whatever, that’s my first legit number close I think.
    I mean………I’m pretty sure I made several mistakes. I -know- I did, because lol I wasn’t even ready for people to respond to me in a positive way. I was weak in comfort, probably weak in having her qualify herself. Probably did shit out of order, too.

    ————–

    Thoughts on Weds —

    Well, I mean…it’s only day 3 of the official Project PUA. I feel like I probably just had a good night, which is good — I needed one. A legit good night. Now, I went out with the goal of opening 20 sets, but I never got that far. It seems like…opening in a way that demonstrates value is pretty solid. Like, the drug dealer opener went over way better when cushioned with the false time constraint and the fact that, rather than my friends giving me that opinion, some random girls -opened- me to give me that opinion. And then I think to Saturday, and how that girl responded way better when I just said ‘people asked me for weed.’ I keep this for awhile.

    The hairdresser thing seems solid. Saying the hairdresser is hot seems solid. I still feel like I talk too fast, and I think I’m too excited. Like, when someone shows a bit of intrigue, I just sort of ‘YEAH AND IF YOU LIKED THAT HERE’S MORE OF WHAT I WAS SAYING OR WHAT I WANT TO SAY, YAAAAAAY!’ Need to chill more, I think.

    Friend never did get that 8’s number. “Yeah, I actually think she -may- have been a prostitute.” Are his words. His words on my success were “yeah, that’s really awesome, I’m really proud of you. -But- don’t fuck up. You will fuck up if you focus on fucking this girl. What I mean is that, just have the same vibe you had when you first started talking to them. You’re like, this guy who has tons of girls in his life, and you know, why not one more? You don’t -need- to fuck her. You can do that any time. Go in with the mindset that you aren’t going to fuck her — indicate your interest and be fun, but keep it fun, as though you really couldn’t care less about it — and you’ll probably end up fucking her.”

    As for the other sets. They were nicer this time, so that was nice. But I mean…when that 9 (or 8-8.5 whatever) laughed, even a little, it was a good moment. A hopeful moment.

    Cold approaching seems pretty solid, and I totally disagree with me other friend who thinks it’s ‘dumb’ and ‘cool people don’t do that.’ I watched pretty much every other guy in the pubs, clubs, etc. just stand there like chodes…messing with their bros or keeping to their social circles. It’s empowering.

    Ya, you were totally right about talking to hotter chicks. Way more fun.

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    • on January 11, 2013 at 11:43 am YaReally
      “Field Report Weds:” I read/replied to the Thurs one before seeing this one lol so read my Reply to https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/01/10/what-kind-of-woman-cuckolds-a-man/#comment-402721 first. “the weird thing is that…for the first time in awhile, I just felt like part of the group — like my presence made a difference.” Your sub-communications are probably slowly fixing themselves. When someone is a value-taker, you want them to go away…the homeless guy on the street, you know before he even APPROACHES you that he’s going to approach you and start mentally snubbing him hoping he’ll go away. But when you’re a value-giver/bringer, people want you to stick around. Bringing value doesn’t have to be anything blatant, it can simply be “not being someone with low value”, where the group wants you around them. Down the road you’ll be in situations where you have multiple groups of people that all want you to come party with them and you have to start dropping in just for a few minutes here and there to “make an appearance” or choose between them and cancel on some of them etc. lol “You’re 26, almost done with grad school, and you work at a respectable place — fucking act like it. You don’t spend most of your time watching people do -sick- tricks in half-pipes.” Fucking lol’ed reading that. I like this guy. 🙂 Like I say, some of it might sound harsh but he has your best interests in mind ultimately. I had to do a massive fashion, grooming, etc. overhaul. A buddy basically told me flat out “if you want to look like you deserve these chicks, you have to fix your style” and took me shopping. Also it helps when both of you look pimp VS one of you is stylin and the other is “the guy the girl’s friend will get stuck with”. You don’t have to necessarily dress up in blazers and shit, like I hang out with guys who look like rockers, MMA guys, suit dudes, clubby player guys, etc. and I don’t have to dress like they do. I just have to have a solid personal sense of style and it’s all good from there. “Literally, when we arrived, Club 1 had ONE girl there.” lol in those situs if I’m with friends or if I’m solo but don’t want to hoof around all night and want to give the place a chance, I just try to make chit-chat with a bartender or flirt with a waitress/bartender-chick and try to get familiar with them for the future before we move on to the next place. “My friend, before even getting a free drink, opens her. He’s talking to her.” lol ballsy of him. Good stuff. Taking action and not letting the club overwhelm you and avoiding negative thought-loops stifling your social vibe is more important than drinking, you can get shit-faced at home for way cheaper. 🙂 A lot of PUAs follow the rule of opening ANYTHING as soon as they enter the venue, like before getting a drink, before doing a lap, before coat-checking, before hitting the pisser, etc. because doing all those things gives your mind time to psyche you out, so opening right away is like going “Fuck you, brain!! I’m makin’ you do this!!” and your brain goes “shit, okay, I guess we’re being social tonight, fine fine I’ll play along!” “just a bud light, I ain’t gonna get drunk.” Good, don’t get shit-faced all the time, it’ll fuck your progress up hard and create a lot of problems. I’m currently working on cutting back on drinking, it’s gotten out of hand over the winter and it’s fucking my game up. “Then I walk on over and engage the dude in conversation.” Good winging. Even if your buddy doesn’t take his girl or anything and you guys just leave, you guys have made their night. You’ve given them a funny story to bond over and probably helped that dude get laid lol “Now, it’s clear from what me and my friend piece together that they are out on their first date and really have little history.” lol could probably steal her if you don’t mind racking up bad karma. 🙂 I don’t like to do that though if the dude is a nice guy, there are other girls and that might be his first date in months. “So, I occupy the guy…talking about music, work, etc. while my friend engages the target.” This is actually a way to wing AMOGs without getting your ass kicked. Like if you see a guy and girl together and your buddy wants the girl, or if a guy comes to crash your buddy’s set, you just engage the guy in boring logical questions and talk about normal mundane shit and basically kill any “fun” vibe that was going on, while your buddy pumps the girl’s Buying Temperature and steals her away. 🙂 The guy can’t get mad at you because you’re just shooting the shit, but he loses the girl because he falls into your frame and becomes boring lol “Let’s walk…YOU lead, and we’ll figure it out.”” This is a good wing. He’s helping you learn to lead and take charge, even if it’s just deciding where to walk over to in the club and what route to take. I do this with buddy’s who need to learn to be assertive, it just helps them learn to take charge and make decisions and lead the group. On a tangent for a sec, there’s a relevant scene at the start of Fight Club: [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZs0DPcF8A4&w=500&h=282] Tyler says: “Just ask man.” Narrator: “What are you talking about?” “3 pitchers of beer and you still can’t ask.” “What?” “You called me ’cause you needed a place to stay.” “Oh hey no no no–” “Yes you did. So just ask. Cut the foreplay and just ask.” “…would– Would that be a problem?” “Is it a problem for you to ask?” “Can I stay at your place?” “Ya.” In that scene, Tyler is trying to make the Narrator take charge and admit what he wants and just be assertive and not beat around the bush. This is similar to your friend telling you to lead. Go with it and embrace it. 🙂 “We’re walking at a weird angle and I totally bitch out and keep right on in that craven stride.” lololol I’ve done that. Hell, I still do it now and then, early in the night when I’m out of state especially. ““Yeah, so do I look like a drug dealer to you?”” Solid open. FTC, DHV, social proof, and a good wide opinion opener for them to sink their teeth into. “Now, one of the set steps forward” This can be either an ioi or the mother hen shit-testing you, but even then you can land her if she’s a mother hen…if she reacts to you at all, there’s a spark you can work with to turn into a roaring bush-fire. That’s what a lot of pickup is…we can’t like, magically make a girl who hates us suck our cock, but we learn to notice when there’s a tiny little spark, even well-hidden under a girl who seemingly hates us, and we build the tool-set to stoke that little spark into a bigger and bigger fire. “Then, I FORCE MYSELF TO REACT TO HER…like, to pretend as though I’m noticing something. I pause, and I tilt my head, then point in her direction as though the Perspicacity Gods graced me in a single moment.” Solid. This lets her feel like you weren’t into her but she’s said or done something or you noticed something about her that has suddenly piqued your interest. It gets her wondering and feeling like she’s somehow winning you over. It’s part of Pull and qualifying and you can drop in a cold-read like you did with the hairdresser thing…even if she’s NOT a hairdresser, it’s fine you just bullshit about oh it was her feminine demeanor etc and ask what she really does, blah blah. Best if the thing you cold-read her/compliment her on is something specific/personal personality-wise (“you’re very feisty getting in my face like that, I like feisty girls”, or “you have a good sense of style you must be a hairdresser blah blah”) VS something physical/vague (“you have beautiful eyes” or “god you’re hot”) that EVERYONE says to her. It’s like you’re seeing her under the surface. “Well, my friend is a hairdresser, and she always wears her hair like that.” Solid lol like I say it doesn’t matter if the cold-read was off. You’re following the 90-10 rule here by continuing to talk. Good stuff. “I fail to really mirror her though, because I’m facing away and out, and she’s looking directly at me, open stance.” eh fuck mirroring. I never pay attention to it lol Maybe in Comfort, but in Attraction it’s not real important compared to other things you can do (kino, push/pull, etc.) that build more attraction. “she thinks I should get a green mohawk — now see, on the one hand I should trust her, because she’s hot, but on the other hand, she could be fucking with me…what do you think?” Solid. Now you’re a guy who has a hot hairdresser friend and this is the 90-10 rule in action (before, you might’ve stopped at “wears her hair like that…” and just waited for her to do something and then been all “ah shit rejected!!!!” when she doesn’t know what to say). The whole time you’re talking, she’s processing you and trying to figure out whether to categorize you as the next random lame guy of the night or someone she should be interested in. Your hairdresser routine is solid. It’s got enough DHV stuff in it as-is so keep using it if you enjoy it. Notice that you’re ending up in the exact same spot you’d end up if you were a “normal” guy approaching and “winging it”…you end up at “So what do you do?” except instead of going “My name is Bob, nice to meet you Sarah, so what do you do?”, you’ve instead conveyed a bunch of fun personality, implied that you hang with a hot hairdresser chick, cold-read her and possibly complimented her in that cold-read, and assertively stated “So you’re not a hairdresser, what are you?” like you’re qualifying/testing her. How much more attractive and an emotional investment in the interaction is that for her, compared to Bob and Sarah, you know? “Turns out, that set of three girls is a set of -five- girls.” lol this happens a lot. This is part of why I say don’t stress picking only hot targets to approach, especially at the start of the night…or even dudes. Often you’ll be shooting the shit and then some hotties will join the group and you’re like “score!!” and have a solid intro from their friend with the new girls. I’ve had 2-sets turn into 7+ sets when I was out solo lol “oh shit, I really failed to engage everyone, oh man.” True. You focused on the black chick and excluded the rest of the group. But that’s okay, she got up in your face, if your friend had jumped in sooner he could’ve taken the rest of the group for you and then you could engage them like “Your friend and I like eachother (put the girl’s arm around you and yours around her), we hope you’ll all come to our wedding. Hi my name is Scray.” You might’ve been able to re-open the black chick later in the night when her friends get scattered more. She would definitely remember you. But you’d have some work to do with her since you only really got to A1 with her. “I don’t think he knew who was the target and who were the obstacles, because the first person he engaged was the person I was talking to.” lol that happens. If it’s an obvious set where there’s a hot girl and an ugly girl, it’s clear that you’re after the hot girl, but in a group of girls around the same level it’s harder to tell. He might’ve thought she was giving you shit and that you’re not into black chicks and she was the obstacle etc. Come up with a signal of some kind to indicate which girl you’re after so you guys don’t step on eachother’s toes. My friends I go out with regularly know what type of girl is my type and I know what type is their type so usually it’s pretty clear to both of us who gets who. If there’s a bitchy obnoxious in-your-face mother-hen type, I’ll hear my buddy say “you should meet my friend, this is YaReally” because he knows I eat those girls for breakfast (sometimes literally lol) “Eventually it just peters out and the all move to a booth in which to sit” All good. There’s something Tim from RSD calls “Rhythm 10 Till 2” which is the observation that it’s extremely rare to meet a girl at 10pm at the bar and extract her right away or escalate on her into a situation where it’s 100% on…she and her girls just got there, they want to drink and dance and catch up and do their girl shit and flirt with boys etc. So you put some time in early in the night, then go approach other sets and find that girl again around midnight when she’s more ready to pull. You’re going with the rhythm of the night and the vibe of the club instead of fighting against it. Sometimes with those ones, if her friends are pulling her away but she’s into me, I’ll let her start to walk away so her friends think she’s following them, then grab her arm and stop her with my phone out and say “Hey wait, give me your number incase I lose you or my buddies want to leave…I want to see you again.” and sometimes you can grab a # that you can txt through the night while her friends are off being a drunk shit-show and she sits at their booth txting you as you build Comfort etc. via txt to possibly rendezvous for food after the bar or at least set up a solid Time Bridge for a Day 2 later in the week. “We failed…overwhelmed in some way.” lol all good, it happens. Look at it this way: the place was a massive sausage-fest and you did more than any of the other hundred+ sausages there had the balls to do. That’s pretty badass. And they all SAW it because they’re all thinking “fuck, why don’t WE have the balls to approach those girls like these guys do?? These guys are pimps!!” “He’s like “dude, that was awesome. You opened them. We’re rockstars in this club right now. Look at all these faggots in their nice clothes just standing around. We’ve literally talked to -all- the girls in this place.”” lol exactly. If there had been more girls there to make it worth staying, you could’ve ridden that social proof into some good shit and snowballed the night into something epic. But hey, no reason to stay in a sausage-fest like that. “maybe it was the slight buzz of alcohol, but I shit you not, I became a warrior in that pass.” lol at this point you’ve warmed up your social muscles a bit and collected some good reference experience plus you have the fury/intent of being in a bar with some hot girls intead of stuck in a sausage-fest, so your brain is like “alright, let’s do this shit!” “that resistance from the other night? Gone. Replaced by — it wasn’t attraction — but just this sort of open-mindedness.” lol this will keep improving. These days I generally have to purposely say REALLY obnoxious/asshole-ish things for a set to snub me hard. Like 90% of the time sets are receptive to me chatting them up. This wasn’t the case when I started…at all. lol “it felt like…’all right kid, you’ve got a few minutes — WOW us.”” See they know what you’re doing. They know you’re hitting on them. They know the drug dealer thing is bullshit…but they’re giving you a chance to stand out from the rest of the guys because at least you conveyed that you have enough balls to open them up when they intimidate every other guy in the room. Often a set this hot won’t even get approached for half the night because everyone is too chickenshit lol “They all look at one another, and it’s sort of a tepid ‘nah, not really, I mean…yeah nah….”” See now here is where you would probably have stopped in the past and been like “ehh it fizzled out there’s no vibe, I’m rejected fuck I suck :(” and left. But 90-10 rule: “I point at the 9 (yeah, that’s fucking right) and just say “you’re a hairdresser, right.”” lol perfect. See they’re a little “uhhh I guess so?” at your approach because it’s that weirdness of someone approaching and they don’t know what to really do, plus they’re also shit-testing a little like, let’s give him the absolute minimum to work with here. The really hot ones will often not give any indication at all that they’re into you because they want to see if you’re confident enough to assume they’re into you (this is all subconscious). Brad (I think) from RSD puts this good: Imagine you find a $10,000 bill on the ground. You would shit a brick and jump for joy and run around telling everyone and be SO happy. That’s what it’s like when a cool guy chats up a 6, she shits a brick. But then say Bill Gates finds a $10,000 bill on the ground. Sure, he’s pleased, that’s a nice chunk of money out of nowhere and that’s a cool thing, but he has billions so he doesn’t shit a brick and jump through the roof even though he’s pleased by it. That’s a 9-10 when a cool guy chats her up. It’s just relative. That’s why Mystery would Neg 9s and 10s, because he knows they’re not going to give him much to work with, so he has to face-fuck their reality and just shatter the shit out of it before he’ll get to actually communicate with the REAL girl that’s under all that…the girl that’s bubbly and happy in her pyjamas on xmas day when she gets some nerdy gift from her little brother…she’s not this uptight bitch-shield asshole then lol So when you accuse her of being a hairdresser with breaking rapport (voice tone inflection going down instead of up at the end, like you’re assertively making statements/observations), pointing at her through the group, she’s just like “woah wtf who IS this guy??” VS if you just sat back and waited for them to ask you questions about yourself (which they won’t do till after the Hook Point) or made inoffensive small-talk. “Questions are for pussy betas. I AM right.” Perfect attitude. 🙂 Everything you do is right and awesome until proven otherwise and even THEN everyone else is wrong and you’re still right and awesome. “She tilts her head and is like ‘well, no…”” Doesn’t matter! As you know. Do you apologize for your incorrect assumption? No, you’re self-amusing, you’re gonna tell her about your fucking friend. “I follow it up….same routine, friend is a hairdresser.” If your frame is strong enough, you can convince her that maybe she should BE a hairdresser lol Funny story on frame control, Jamie Foxx was talking about Tom Cruise in Collateral and there’s a scene where Tom Cruise is like “Take the money. Go on, you know you want it. Take it, take the money.” and Jamie’s like “I know my line is to refuse the money, but he’s looking at you with that Tom Cruise intensity and he’s telling you take it, you want it, take the money, and suddenly I start thinking “…maybe I DO want the money?”” lol “She laughs, and is like ‘yeah! I actually know a lot of hairdressers who wear it this way.”” Soliiiiid. Every hot girl knows hairdressers lol Your plane went through a shaky storm for a sec, but you held tight onto the controls and bam, broke through to the sunshine on the other side. “Now….listen, this may sound stupid, but liiiiike….having a 9 legit show interest in what I said there just was….well….just about the best thing ever.” Goddamn right. 🙂 Even if she shoots you down, it’s a fucking 9 shooting you down, way better than being snubbed by some uggo 5. You can GET these girls. If you can act with a 9 the way you act with a 5, you’ll attract her just like the 5. “Then, one of the other friends makes a motion — at first I thought she was making a blowjob motion, to insult me, but then I’m like ‘what’s going on over here?’” lol good, taking charge, being the authority, owning the set, and including her friends VS snubbing them. “and her friends inform me that this one — the 5.5-6 — is ACTUALLY a hairdresser.” lol awesome. Such a perfect setup. On top of it, that tells you that 1) the other girls want to be included, these are a bunch of hot girls fighting over YOUR attention, the short guy who had to “tag along” with his friends a few weeks ago…and imagine how this all looks to everyone else in the room, you approaching and taking over this set like that. And 2) they’re now reacting to you instead of going “meh…” and seeing if you’ll leave. “I’m about to riff on that thread, probably go into something about how she should meet my hairdresser friend blah blah…” Solid, and the “she wants to do a mohawk on me” shit is good, girls love giving their opinion on all that. You could talk to the hairdresser directly about that for a minute and snub your 9 and let her see you work her group as you demonstrate value etc. before allowing her some more of your attention. This is all theoretically a really good setup for you. BUT THEN… “He enters the set like the Allies entered the beaches of Normandy.” Props to him for even jumping in lol a lot of guys would be too chickenshit and leave you hanging. “The first thing he says is ‘oh hey, have you met him?’ indicating me. They blink, as though that’s weird, and say ‘uh yeaaaah.’” lololol fail on his part! But in his defense he probably panicked and didn’t know what to say/do to get in the set. This is where you have to introduce him and hope that he can pick up the slack and keep up with you, to keep a set like this going. This is why you both have to be social high-value guys, if you bring a lame/shy guy into set, he’ll fuck the vibe up for everyone. “Then, my friend engages me. Something shifts in the interaction, and ALL of them turn away.” lol shit, ya that went toast. You want to pass the Hook Point before you can ignore the set to talk to your buddy, otherwise they’ll walk off like that. If you’re past the Hook Point and they WANT to know more about you etc., they’ll sit there with a DDB look on their face hoping you’ll give them some attention again while you ignore them to talk to your buddy. It’s just an issue of timing, he came in a little sooner than he needed to, and he came in sloppy. But in his defense the set was intimidating so he probably thought “shit he’s definitely going to get blown out fast so I’d better get in there right away” and probably panicked a bit when he got up to them because they were so hot and fumbled entering the set smoothly. All good. Remember the reference experience you just earned: That you can cold approach a group of hotties and get a *9* interested in what you’re saying. You. Short-ass little you. 🙂 Again I say, have you grown 2 feet since a few weeks ago? No. You’ve just learned to convey your personality in an optimal/efficient manner. “my friend is like ‘ahhh shit, totally misread everything about that. I’m sorry man, that one chick was fucking smokin”” lol ya he dropped the ball on that one but that’s okay, you guys will find more hotties. 🙂 One thing, make sure you guys don’t high-five, cheers your drinks, or give eachother the rock after a group of hotties like that walks off, even if it goes really well. A lot of new guys do this and it instantly signals to the room (since everyone is watching you when you approach a set like that) and any of the girls’ friends aroud you that it’s such a RARE event for you to get to talk to hot girls that you guys have to CELEBRATE it lol You should just act casual and shoot the shit about the set or roll into another set, like it’s just another day at the office for you to be chatting with girls that hot. “and that’s where we proceeded to wonder whether she was an 8.5 or a 9 for 20 seconds.” lol she’d be a 10 to you guys if she was sucking your dicks. 😉 “where a live band was playing. I followed for a sec, but then I was like ‘it’s too fucking loud in here, let’s go talk to bitches!’ He’s like ‘ya, in a sec.’ ” He was probably a bit out of state after fucking shit up there, and just trying to stall for time and get himself back in the groove. It’s all good. And ya, I hate live bands specifically because they’re always WAY too loud to have a conversation. “‘oh yeah, you guys gotten their attention yet? I can never get their attention.’” Decent open. I like to joke about showing them my tits to get their attention, or make a bet with her about who’s going to get served first (“you have tits, but I’m busting out my charming smile”) etc. “‘oh yeah, you guys gotten their attention yet? I can never get their attention.’” “‘nah, but yeah I know what you mean.’” “‘you from around here?\'” ““yeah…”” ““is this a cool place…”” zzzzz…lol You’ve fallen into Interview Mode here, exact same game as every other guy. No conveying your personality or teasing or spiking her emotions or anything. You just fell into dialtone mode on this one. She didn’t give you much to work with (one word answer type stuff, not asking you questions, etc.) but that’s where the 90-10 rule comes in…here you’re trying for 50-50. “she’s being way friendly, despite the fact that I didn’t use any of the material” Friendly does not equal fucking. 😉 You’re not pissing her off or weirding her out, so that’s a step up from a few weeks ago lol But there’s no attraction here at all, just friendliness. “I was facing the bar, standing straight, and my head was turned. Plus, I was talking slowly.” This is all good, but you’re not talking to her “Man to Woman”, you’re talking to her “Friend to Friend”. The interaction just has no charge to it is all. But notice that your vibe isn’t the same as you had before…you’ve created this mundane interaction yourself essentially. “Maybe she was friendly because she was just with a dude. Whatever, opened another set, right?” lol all good. Nothing you can do about that one. Often if you just shoot the shit with the dude in a cool friendly way, you can actually make friends out of the two of them, then if another girl joins them the dude introduces you to her etc. It’s a little bit awkward/rocky here because he interjected like “umm dude that’s my girl cough cough” lol but you could turn it around if you wanted to. Nothing wrong with just wishing them a good night and moving on though. You have other girls to open. 🙂 “Immediately, inside I either think that the Universe has finally decided to smile upon me or that this bitch is probably taken. The latter turns out to be true” lol This kind of thing happens more in the live music venues, where there are a lot more regulars (like that last girl who knew everything about the bar, she’s probably there a lot) and everyone’s kind of taken and the social circles know eachother but everyone’s friendly etc. Again you could befriend this chick and her dude and she might know some girls she can introduce you to or you might run into her in a couple weeks if you’re there again and now you have social proof etc. But nothing wrong with again, wishing them a good night and peacing out to open more sets. Right now you want to collect a ton of reference experience opening. Later on you can worry about building nightlife social circles. “I find him at the bar, drinking another drink. He’s like ‘go open those four girls’ and I’m like ‘yeah, those are the ones I already opened.’ He laughs…’hmph, well there aren’t any other good groups to open here.’ So I’m like ‘then let’s get to gettin’.’” lol I think he’s out of state here. Same thing as you when you were wandering around “looking lost” the other week. It’s hard to claw back into state and you start distracting yourself with drinks or wanting to leave or getting buddies to approach instead etc. If I can tell my buddy’s falling out of it like that I’ll usually try to help pump him up or embarrass myself with him to get him laughing and shake him out of his head or if we have to, venue change. It’s VERY hard to turn around from a state nosedive without doing something drastic. One of the RSD instructors squirts lime juice in his students’ eyes to shake their senses out of a negative state…I don’t recommend that lol “So we go upstairs, and immediately my friend opens this 8.” solid. If he WAS feeling out of state, the venue change is like re-rolling your D&D stats lol, it might not help but often resetting like that can change the night entirely and jumpstart you again. “Now, I feel like a tool, and I immediately turn around to head back downstairs.” One open I like in these situs is to grab a set nearby and go “Hey, my friend is being taken advantage of by a girl over there so I’m all by myself, alone and scared and I figured I’d say hi…take pity on me!!” and then go into riffing about people going home together from the bar and relationships and all that shit. “On the way, I spot a 5.5 and a 7 sitting down. The thought was — shit, if I could get a 9 to laugh, surely I could do something with these chicks.” 🙂 That’s Reference Experiences in action. THAT’S why I encourage guys to go out instead of Keyboard Jockeying. You need to build those little successes where your brain says “shit if I was able to do THAT, I can obviously do THIS”. ““Nah, you don’t look like a drug dealer, but in that blazer you look like you’re ready to do some lines.”” lol that’s a cool chick. Great vibe, these are my type of girls. “I actually laugh. “What….who….ME? No-I-would-never!”” I’ll often qualify a girl if she actually legit makes me laugh. I’ll tell her not many girls make me laugh like that, what’s your name? and show some interest. Note that she’s winning me over with her personality, not her looks, so it’s qualifying her instead of needy/lame like if I was just interested in her because she had a pussy and I’d take anything with a pussy. “We share a laugh — the 5.5′s laughter is a bit more restrained.” Ya, ’cause the 5.5 knows she’s boring compared to her friend lol Include her in the fun when you notice this vibe! She won’t blatantly cockblock you because they’re sitting down and her friend clearly has a good vibe with you, but down the road if you don’t address her she’ll fuck it up because she’s not having fun. “Then, I get to my hairdresser thing about the green mohawk. They’re into it.” It’s solid. And the “fucking with me?” ending is great because you’re not afraid to swear in front of them etc. You’re showing that you’re just a cool guy who’s used to being around girls. “Then, I launch into my DHV story — finnnaaaaallllly.” Excellent. See, having a gameplan helps hey? 🙂 “I talk about how my crazy hairdresser friend pushed some 6’4 guy at a concert and then said I was going to fight him.” Not sure about this story. It sort of paints you as a guy who might get into fights at the bar which a stranger who’s just met you can get to thinking “I don’t want to be assosciated with him if he gets kicked out later”. Something better would be an ending where you diffuse the situation with something confident/fun/humorous and the guy supplicates to you. I’d tweak it something like “so then the guy turns to me like he wants to go and I go “WOAH, hold on here!” and everyone stops, I look at my friend and go “I don’t wanna’ hit this guy…he’s too ugly as it IS! :D” and everyone’s eyes go wide open like holy shit did he just say that?? and everyone’s all ready for him to start swinging…but the guy, and he must’ve been a little drunk or something, stares at me for a second and then just BURSTS OUT laughing and slaps me on the back and ends up buying me a beer lol Why do girls always start shit like that up? You two aren’t trouble are you? Hmmm, THIS one is, I can tell…she’s quiet and tiny, but I bet after a few drinks she’s elbowing her way through the crowd like “GTFO of my way assholes!!” lol” See that’s the same general story, but in this one you’re building edge-of-the-seat “omg what happened next??” tension and then relieving it with a funny-ass twist, then this AMOG dude supplicates to you, and you smoothly transition into cold-reading the girls you’re talking to and roleplaying/etc. with them. 🙂 You’re still demonstrating that you can “protect your friend” and “stand up to a guy” (which is that whole demonstrating that you can protect a girl and handle your shit thing that tall guys demonstrate just by being tall), but you’re doing it in a way that shows you’re socially savvy and cool and a leader of men instead of just another angry UFC wannabe bar douche. “the 5.5 gets back onto the topic about the mohawk, and she’s like ‘well, do you mean a mohawk or a faux-hawk?’” lol she’s DYING to be a part of the fun. This is actually a really socially awkward thing for her to do, cut a fun thread to go back to an old one lol but you know through your whoooole story she was thinking “ummm umm I wanna ask my question!! I hope he likes my question!!” like a kid waving their hand around in the classroom hoping the teacher will acknowledge them. This question also marks passing the Hook Point with the group. “At this point, I act as though that’s a really interesting distinction and take the opportunity to sit down across from them.” Good, once you sit down you look like you’re a part of their group instead of like “a guy hitting on them”. You don’t have to acknowledge what you’re doing or anything, just sit down like it’s the most natural thing in the world. Like, of course you’d sit down, it would be strange for someone to call you out on that. Notice that BECAUSE you’re past the Hook Point, it’s okay to sit down. Before the Hook Point, they wonder when you’re going to leave so you need the False Time Constraint. But because you passed the Hook Point, now they hope you don’t leave, so sitting down is welcome. “Now, I just instinctively start to focus on the 5.5, because I dunno…I read Ya’s comment about the other ‘STFU girl’ and was like ‘try to ingratiate yourself a little to the obstacle.’ So, I spend time talking with her about stuff and actually kind of cooling it with the 7.” Solid play. Very very solid group theory here. Well done! Now the catch is that if you focus on the 5.5 TOO much, the 7 will go “My 5.5 friend NEVER gets a cool guy like this, I’ll back off and leave them alone so they can hook up” and then you’re fucked lol. But you avoid that doom perfectly with: “I — acting a little ADD while the obstacle talks, bring the 7 back into conversation by pointing at a pyramid shaped ring she has — ” This. PERFECT. Now you’re signalling to the 7 “hey, I’m talking to your friend, but don’t think I’m making a move on her…YOU’RE the one I’m actually after.” If you ignored her, the 7 might wander off and leave you with the 5.5 completely thinking you’re more interested in her. ““Me too! But then, I’d probably hate you because I mean…you’d still have a FULL ring pop left. What kind of person doesn’t eat the ring pop?!”” lol all good stuff here. Teasing, roleplaying, push/pull, etc. Also this chick has a good vibe. There are lots of girls like this out there, they’re not all bitchy frustrating awkward shit-testing girls like a lot of guys who “hate North American women” think (because they don’t approach). “Then I tell her friend to make up a story about the ring.” Good stuff, you’re making them invest in the interaction here. Requiring them to do shit, ordering them around, etc. You really do have solid natural instincts for vibing with people, you’re just winging all this ring shit. The difference between now and a few weeks ago is that now you feel more comfortable expressing yourself and you aren’t stifled and restricted trying to think of what would impress them, you’re just shooting from the hip saying what you want to and riffing off your own self-amusement…and they love it because only a guy who’s confident around women can do that. “I go with the obstacle’s story” lol good, the 7 knows you like her so it’s okay to give her a little shit by choosing her friend’s story. Essentially at this point what’s happening is that the 7 and you are sub-communicating that you dig eachother, but you both kind of know the 5.5 is a little more awkward/lame, so she knows you’re humoring the 5.5 (and most girls like that you’re cool enough to do that) the way you’d know if a really hot girl you were talking to was asking some lame nerd friend of yours to tell her more about his Warcraft hobby lol ““Oh really? You’re good at analyzing people? What’s -her- biggest fear?”” oooooooo this is good. Really good. Now you’re pitting them against eachother sort of and creating this big group interaction and even forcing them to kind of feel a little awkward about it etc. This is one of those things where later on they’ll be like “remember when that guy said such and such??” lol “smile (now, this whole time I’ve been facing away from them a bit in my body language, and they’ve been turned toward me…now, I bring myself in), and say “How about -I- go first?”” Solid. You’re into C1 and transitioning into C2 right now, with both of them. This is all really solid so far. Opening up first about your fear is great, you can build a realllly strong bond here. “”my biggest fear is to skydive into a pool full of sharks that then eat me alive.”” lol funny, but at this specific point you went backwards in the sarge. You were in C1 heading into C2 depending on what you said here, but then you pulled back with some funny/dancing-monkey/humor stuff and dragged the sarge backwards back into A3. That was a REALLY solid opportunity to open up about an actual deep fear of yours and really bond and build a connection with them, which would encourage them to really open up about real fears of theirs and take you into a REALLY solid C2. By turning it into a joke, you cause them to kind of go “ohhh I was going to open up, but I guess we’re still joking around here, whew, glad I didn’t say anything real, okay I’ll think up a joke answer” and you’re going backwards in terms of building a deep powerful “I’m so intrigued by this guy and the emotions he makes me feel” connection. No biggie, I’m just pointing it out so you learn to recognize it in the future. There’s a point where you can slow up on the humor and transition into the comfort/rapport stuff…you can still dip back into the humor, but usually it’s AFTER you connect. So you all share your super deep fears and get into this amazing deep connection conversation bonding…then to lighten the mood in that awkward silence that follows after everyone’s opened up like that, THAT’S when you could go “…also I’m scared of skydiving into a pool of sharks and being eaten alive. Just figured I’d throw that one in there too. ;)” and relieve all the deep tension and bring you all back to reality again, except now you’ve shared a lot and have a solid C2 connection. Hope that makes sense! “then she reveals the target’s fear, which is “moving on” from her first love or whatever.” Socially akward girl lol “I don’t dwell on it, I just spin it into something else” Good lol The 5.5 is like a nerdy awkward friend you bring out for the first time who’s like “wow your dress is SHORT!!” to a girl you’re talking to and you’re like “ummm ya so anyway” and have to kind of work around his awkwardness lol ““you’re an aquarius….” The target just lights up — like ‘how did you know?!’ blah blah blah. Lucky guess.” lol shhhh she doesn’t need to know! 😉 I like to throw in stuff like “oh man I’m a (whatever your sign is) I heard Aquarius and Whatevers don’t get along. They just fight all the time. You wouldn’t take my shit and I wouldn’t take yours. We’d have to carry around foam nerf bats so we could just smack eachother.” (oldschool Tyler routine there, “you and I are too similar”, google it, it’s awesome) “Right now, I’m feeling pretty awesome.” You fucking should lol You’re owning this set right now with really solid game. “But the obstacle likes me, and she gives me a hint” See if she didn’t like you, like if you had ignored her and not made her feel like a part of the group, she’d’ve used getting her sign wrong to insult you and try to get you to fuck off. But because she approves of you and doesn’t want you to go, she gives you a hint. 🙂 A lot of the obstacles and mother hens that everyone pisses and moans about are actually your ALLY, if you understand group theory and can win them over instead of being a creepy sniper jumping out of the shadows to attack your target and ignore the group. This is the girl that when you get the 7s number you can say “Make sure she txts me back okay? And get her home safe.” and the 5.5 will nod furiously and go “OKAY!!!!” and if the 7 is still on the fence about if she wants to see you again her 5.5 will be sitting there going “Do iiiittt!!! Txt him omg he’s so coool!!!!” and can totally turn the tide in your favor. “Suddenly, the obstacle is like ‘hey, are you here alone?’” lol if you get this question before the Hook Point it’s a shit-test/insult like the vibe is “ugh are you some loser who’s here alone?” But AFTER the Hook Point, and especially THIS far into the sarge, it’s not an attempt to tool you, it’s her thinking “god this guy is SO cool, isn’t he here with friends?? He seems like a guy that should have a ton of friends here, he’s so amazing!!” and they’re genuinely curious. When I’d get that while I was solo I would tell them “No, my friends wanted to stay in tonight and I’m new to the city so I figured I’d come out and have some fun.” and they’d DDB me and go “wowwww I could NEVER do that, that’s so ballsy…” like I was the most amazing thing in the fucking world to them lol …but that’s AFTER you pass the Hook Point. 😉 If your buddy is there but you don’t know where he is, I usually say “nah, I came here with my buddy but some girl grabbed him and is taking advantage of him or something lol” because 1) that says you have a friend there but explains why he’s not coming over to you, 2) it sets a tone of “people hook up a the bar”, and 3) it makes your friend seem like a cool pimp because some girl grabbed him and kidnapped him so if he comes over eventually to join your set, he’s already socially proofed to those girls…they’ll ask him “Where’d that girl go?” of course, so fill him in in advance or hope that he can play it off on the fly lol “I’m here with a friend and that we’re actually trying to find a girl that keeps texting me to come to a bar, but she keeps failing to tell us where (I’m so sure I must have read about this gambit somewhere).” …so basically you chase around girls who lead you on and don’t like you enough to make any effort to find you? lol not a set killer, at this point you would have to fuck up a bunch to actually kill the set, but not a DHV. Try my routine (or something else) instead next time! “The good news is that I actually do have a female friend who sort of could fit that bill. And that friend is decently attractive.” They don’t know that though lol But they like you enough that they probably assume she’s pretty hot. “Target immediately asks to see pictures of her. God bless America.” lol scopin’ out her competition. “Then, like an angel from on high, my friend swoops in again.” whew! “then proceeds to tackle the warpig like Teddy Roosevelt on Safari” lol okay he made up for fucking up that set with the 9 at the other bar. 🙂 Notice that now that he’s had some female attention from that girl from when he first walked in, he’s probably feeling pretty pumped up and in state. If THIS version of your friend had joined your 4-set with the 9, you guys would probably have gotten a lot further with them. “Strangely enough, this is where I start to struggle.” lol “I feel like I told several cool stories that were fun and whatnot, but I didn’t really get to find out a whole lot about her, if that makes any sense.” You can flat out say this to her. “I feel like I’ve been blabbing about myself all night…I don’t know anything about you except that you like the Beatles. Tell me something interesting about yourself. Like (insert some interview mode questions here, they’re fine now that you’re in comfort/rapport)?” “And we did have a cool conversation about them.” At this point the problem is you’re not showing your Intent. You figure this out later which is good, but basically the vibe for her is still a little bit too far into “friend to friend” VS “man to woman”. You’re having a “cool conversation” but it’s not progressing forward in terms of the sarge. She won’t progress it forward generally, you need to lead it. That’s why I say you had that really great opportunity with the fears question, but you pulled it back into attraction so now you’re stuck talking about the Beatles instead of being able to drop back into C2 by bringing up “Your friend said you’re afraid of moving on…did you break up recently?” and then transitioning into C3. You’re sort of stuck in A3/C1 now. “I managed to kino a little with her (incidental, just putting my hand on her arm when lightly teasing).” With kino, a general note to remember is to do it assertively, not hesitantly. Don’t acknowledge it, don’t look where you’re touching, just do it like it’s the most natural thing in the world to you. See now if you were able to drop back into C2 and start transitioning to C3, that’s where you could literally just sit beside her and put your arm around her (if the seating allows it lol, you can pull her chair closer to yours if you’re in separate individual seats, it’s a pretty boss move to just reach under her seat and yank her chair closer to yours and put your arm aroud her). And then you’re basically a couple, sharing a deep connection, when in reality you’re in a bar and just met an hour ago. But being trapped in A3/C1, that kind of kino feels more awkward. “Probably the best thing I did — again much props to Ya — was roleplay.” Happy to help and glad you’re listening lol Makes it worth writing these up for ya. 🙂 ““Okay, remember your fake story for the ring. We’re going to practice. Pretend you just met me — which you did!”” Solid to call-back to that, it also shows her that you remember the shit she says…it’s like using her name out of the blue, she’s like “wow he remembered!!” The only part to leave off here is the “which you did”. Don’t remind her you just met or you’ll trigger her ASD lol When you’re building comfort/rapport, she starts to feel like somehow she’s known you FOREVER, even though logically she knows that’s not true…that comfort is the same comfort you build when you venue change her a bunch and she enters a bunch of new environments with you, it’s like she’s known you FOREVER…that’s the vibe that’ll help her sleep with you because then you’re not just some random, you’re someone she feels like she’s known for a long time. Notice that you’re not doing one blatant thing to fuck this up, there’s just a handful of little things that kind of pile on eachother (the sharing fears part, reminding her you’ve just met, etc.) to shake her out of the vibe enough to fuck it up. ““How droll! We should arrange a marriage swiftly and combine diamonds and rings, why, why…we’ll be unstoppable!”” Fucking lol. Seriously, once you’re in state and loosened up, you’re spitting out gold here. Some guys might read this and be like “dude you should be cooler like James Bond, this is dancing monkey shit” but those guys are stupid and don’t get how much girls eat this shit up. “She laughs and actually starts mimicking the snooty voice ‘yess, yess we should!”” lol definitely a cool girl. You guys have an awesome FRIEND vibe here. You could have a super solid FRIENDSHIP…being FRIENDS…not having sex. 😉 lol “(whole interaction was over an hour long)” Nice! This is the same guy who had like a 5 sneer at him when he tried to dance-grind up to her at a club a month ago. In an hour long set, running half the set all by himself, purposely gaming a 7 with an awesome personality. “And the target smiles and says ‘yeah!”” She likes you, but having read the next Field Report first we know her number flakes, which is odd… “So…I proceed to get both obstacle and target’s numbers” … ….. ……………………… oh SCRAY…lol “(I regret this in retrospect. I should have been more direct, I think…in showcasing interest for only the target).” 🙂 Yup. well mystery solved at least lol See remember that here you’re still kind of trapped in that friend zone vibe with her, since you couldn’t get to C3, and you can’t kino or anything and you’re talking about The Beatles and shit so you’re stuck in this “she doesn’t know my Intent, that I want to fuck her” friend to friend limbo…and then on top of it you grab BOTH their numbers, so then she REALLY doesn’t know if you actually like her or what your deal is. PUAs call it a Statement of Intent, but basically there’s a point where you need to make it clear that you want HER specifically, for romantical purposes. A lot of guys will do this way too early in the set when they haven’t got enough attraction yet, and blow themselves out (“why does he want me? I haven’t even done anything yet, he must do this to all the girls”). But for you, if you had been able to get to C2 or C3 again, you could drop some “Hey, you’re a fun chick, and I like your style. I want to see you again sometime. Give me your number.” Hell, you could probably still have done it even without C2/C3, you’d just need to run some solid text game. The main thing is to qualify her like “You’ve impressed me for THIS reason, SO I want your number BECAUSE of that.” Like so she knows she’s earned it. Then you can solidify it with stuff like “You’re not one of those drunk chicks that hands her number out to everyone are you? hmmm…no…you don’t seem like that type.” and then REALLY solidify it with “(to her 5.5 friend) Make sure she txts me back or my heart will be broken. ;)” It’s all good though, it’s all a learning experience lol. You may run into her again and you try to recover. “But…whatever, that’s my first legit number close I think.” It was legit, in that you handled that whole set and pickup like a boss. That was an actual “pickup” to a #-close. Off a cold-approach no less. A lot of guys can’t do that. You should definitely be proud of your progress here. 🙂 We know the number flakes, but we can guess why because of your thorough Field Report: “I’m pretty sure I made several mistakes. I -know- I did” “I was weak in comfort, probably weak in having her qualify herself. Probably did shit out of order, too.” lol exactly. 🙂 Live and learn! You’ll tighten that shit up as you meet more girls. Like I say, it’s rarely one huge thing that fucks a pickup up…it’s a bunch of little things that sabotage it collectively. “it’s only day 3 of the official Project PUA.” lol it’s good that you have a name for it and shit. Embrace it and run with it…100% or 0%, all or nothing, you know? “Now, I went out with the goal of opening 20 sets, but I never got that far.” It’s good to set goals like that. If you get distracted, you get distracted, but at least you were distracted by hanging with a fun 7…that’s an alright distraction. 🙂 If you were just picking your ass getting drunk in a corner feeling like shit, that’s a fail worth kicking yourself over. “It seems like…opening in a way that demonstrates value is pretty solid.” Yup. Like I say, we’re looking at “How do I express my personality and demonstrate how awesome I KNOW and my friends KNOW and my MOM knows, but do it in an efficient manner in that tiiiiny little window of “okay you have like 10 seconds to impress us, what do you got?” that girls at the bar give you?” You earn 10 seconds, then you earn another 20 seconds, then you earn a couple minutes, then you earn 5 minutes, then they want you to stay with them for half an hour, then they want you to stay till last call, then they want you to come over, then they want to wake up and have breakfast with you. 🙂 “Like, the drug dealer opener went over way better when cushioned with the false time constraint” Yup, the FTC was a fucking brilliant observation by Style. I use it in a way that fits my personality more, like “Hey, help me out a sec…” which says the same thing as “I can only stay for a minute and then I have to get back to my friends” but in a way that fits my in-your-face vibe more. The concept is the same though, I’m letting them know “I only need your attention for a second…” and they’re more receptive because of it, then you just keep going. It’s good that you can notice the difference. Like I say, a lot of PUA game was discovered by going out and approaching 20 girls one way, then approaching 20 more with a slight tweak, and then figuring out “why did it work these times but not these times, what were the common factors?” and backwards engineering what works. That’s also why PUA Game isn’t “theory” or “ideas” like the Jockey shit guys who don’t go out regularly spout…it’s consistent principles that are forged out of analysis of mass anecdotal data. “and the fact that, rather than my friends giving me that opinion, some random girls -opened- me to give me that opinion.” A perfect tweak to it. Instant social proof and DHV by changing it to a girl opening you. If you watch Cajun in Keys to the VIP you’ll notice he does the same thing with that opener, it’s GIRLS that come up to him for drugs, not guys or friends etc. That’s why he’s pro. 🙂 Girls pick up on these little tiny things because their subconscious is primed to look for them because they indicate high-value mates. If you’re too blatant with them (“these supermodels asked me if I have drugs and then gave me blowjobs”) it comes off as fake and try-hard, but when you drop in little subtle things like this it comes off solid. “Like, when someone shows a bit of intrigue, I just sort of ‘YEAH AND IF YOU LIKED THAT HERE’S MORE OF WHAT I WAS SAYING OR WHAT I WANT TO SAY, YAAAAAAY!’” lolol this’ll fix itself in time. I fall into it a lot because I talk fast in real life, so I have to either roll with it entirely (Russell Brand style verbal gymnastics) or consciously chill out. Tyler still does this a lot in his seminar videos, he’ll crack a little joke and the crowd will laugh and you can almost see him thinking “oh you liked that did you?? here’s more!! give me your validation!!!!” and the joke gets awkward and goes on too long lol ““Yeah, I actually think she -may- have been a prostitute.”” lol “His words on my success were “yeah, that’s really awesome, I’m really proud of you. -But- don’t fuck up. You will fuck up if you focus on fucking this girl. What I mean is that, just have the same vibe you had when you first started talking to them. You’re like, this guy who has tons of girls in his life, and you know, why not one more? You don’t -need- to fuck her.” His advice is very solid. Dude knows his shit. I ended the quoting there because I want to add to that…”You don’t -need- to fuck her…you -WANT- to fuck her.” That’s the key that you were missing by the end of that sarge. You just had “You don’t -need- to fuck her……..” and that’s it, because you got stuck in “friend to friend” land. Stating your Intent and getting into a “man to woman” vibe is where you’d add that “I don’t need to fuck you but you’ve won me over and now I WANT to fuck you” patch that fixes it. But ya, really good advice from your buddy. “They were nicer this time, so that was nice.” lol in the future you’ll be mind-blown if they AREN’T nice. Like it will be so outside of your reality that a girl wouldn’t be receptive/nice to you chatting her up that you’ll think she’s mentally damaged. “But I mean…when that 9 (or 8-8.5 whatever) laughed, even a little, it was a good moment. A hopeful moment.” Damn right. That’s why we get hooked in the game. 🙂 Even now, I’ve talked to a ton of girls, but when I meet one that blows my mind looks-wise and is just totally my type, it’s like the adrenaline flows and everything in that conversation feels 1000x better than even having sex with a bunch of average chicks. You would actually do better with the hotter girls than the ugly/average ones BECAUSE of your height. It’s such an unexpected thing for a short guy to approach a smokin’ hottie that automatically you gain a foothold of “wow he’s either stupidest man in the world, or the most confident man in the world” lol Whereas a 6’4″ guy is EXPECTED to approach those kinds of girls, so when he does he doesn’t get any bonus points. Like I say, the short guy players I know who do well with girls are always hooking up with 8+ chicks that make you go “wtf?? how did that happen??” and I think this “getting extra bonus points” is a part of it. Logically most people would think “oh well a short guy has to settle for a 4-6 because he’s not a 10 himself” and even some gamers believe in the “you can get 1 point above or below you” notion…but when you go out a lot and you meet a lot of people and you see how it really works, you run into little nuances like this where a short guy can get 8+ girls because he’s figured out how to use his height to his advantage. “Cold approaching seems pretty solid” It’s a rush, and super fun, and makes you keep on your toes, and the satisfaction when you’re boning a chick who was literally a complete stranger just a few hours ago or on your first date is like, there’s no better feeling lol “and I totally disagree with me other friend who thinks it’s ‘dumb’ and ‘cool people don’t do that.’” Your friend is lame and scared and his ego is terrified of other people judging him. That’s not the kind of guy that’s going to land 9s and 10s. Keep doing your think, fuck anyone who thinks like that and tries to stifle you or put restrictions on what you can accomplish. “I watched pretty much every other guy in the pubs, clubs, etc. just stand there like chodes…messing with their bros or keeping to their social circles. It’s empowering.” Yup. This is why when people talk about the good looking rich guys who are slaying all the 10s at the bar it’s like no, actually go out and watch those guys. 90% of the time they stand aroud on Death Row fucking terrified and overwhelmed by the club environment and they either get drunk and hang with their bros in a chode-crystal commenting on how hot all the girls are, or they stick to girls in their social circle or go home with uggos who open them. Meanwhile you are walking through the club like you own the place, making girls laugh and smile and flirting with them, grabbing #s, and down the road grabbing kisses and getting booty calls, etc. while they stand there along the wall of the bar going “lol that guy is SO try-hard…let’s do another shot bro!!” “Ya, you were totally right about talking to hotter chicks. Way more fun.” I’m always right. 😉 Glad you’re having fun, keep it up! You have the natural instincts to be good at this. LikeLike
  84. on January 10, 2013 at 10:48 am Walter

    Chateau, I hate to say it, but you missed beta of the month this time. I sent you a piece on a Kansas City man who has been ordered to pay child support to a lesbian who is leaving her lesbian lover after he supplied the couple with his sperm (and signed an agreement to have no claims of paternity whatsoever) for them to have a child. He thought he was just a third party sperm donor (to a hideous, obese lesbian duo)… Think again. This man’s a complete omega.

    [Heartiste: How is he an omega or beta? He was defrauded by the state under false pretenses. This could just as easily happen to an alpha male. The beta male is the man who has some essential quality — some defect of character — which renders him incapable of acting in his own best interest and quick to kneel at the feet of those women who degrade him.

    This is not to say that your linked story doesn’t contain a powerful lesson. It does; but the lesson is more universal. The state is finding increasingly creative ways to redistribute money from men to women.]

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 12:57 pm Walter

      “quick to kneel at the feet of those women who degrade him.”

      Isn’t this precisely what he did?

      [Heartiste: Did he donate his sperm, or was he expecting payment? Either way, it’s not a beta male indicator. Masybe the guy just wanted to create progeny that he wouldn’t have to bother raising himself. He went into the transaction expecting to drop off a quick donation and then make a tidy exit, but the state screwed him over by reneging on their end of the deal.]

      He gave these two bitches his precious DNA and got screwed by them–they are demanding he pay now. He succumbed to their wishes and then they screwed him further. Only a flawed man would agree to do this for a couple unbalanced, obese termagants in my view. Certainly no alpha would oblige them. I’m not even sure any money was involved in the original transaction.

      [Expectation matters in this case. Did he expect to make the donation scot-free, and reap all the rewards of passing on his legacy minus any of the costs? Then that is sort of alpha, if you think about it. But his expectation did not take into account that the state (and it is the state we’re talking about here, since the dykes would not be able to do anything without the long arm of the law to abet them) would break thier bargain, basically lying to him about the legitimacy of his deal.]

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 4:03 pm thwack

        Heartiste: Did he donate his sperm, or was he expecting payment? Either way, it’s not a beta male indicator. Masybe the guy just wanted to create progeny that he wouldn’t have to bother raising himself.
        ———————————-

        You mean like a Monday?

        Well then he deserves to be treated like one.

        He and his big lips should be in prison converting to Islam

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 4:22 pm Phinn

        You have the facts wrong. The lesbians do not want money from the sperm donor. They (or she, since only the bio-mom is still around) want to honor the deal. The child support claim is coming from some lawyer for the State, who is purporting to be representing the interests of children and taxpayers.

        He’s challenging the sperm donor contract under the flimsiest of pretexts. Something about a procedural irregularity (some minor licensing issue). So, because someone along the way didn’t fill out the right paperwork, the State, on its own, is telling the sperm donor to pay up.

        There is no justice in this world.

        [Heartiste: So I’m right that the State is the villain in this story. This guy is no beta, he’s just another American man getting the rough shaft from Uncle Samantha.]

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  85. on January 10, 2013 at 12:09 pm Falconer

    Man, hypergamy sure is brutal. A man really has to be constantly on top of his game today just to avoid getting completely fucked over.

    All I know is I’ll never respect, love, or trust a woman again. The only option is to seduce, ignore and debase.

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  86. on January 10, 2013 at 12:24 pm askjoe

    So, Bill Clinton is getting some award for being father of the year. Serial adulterer Clinton? I guess the big brains are trying to drive a wedge between fatherhood and husbandry (I know, not in the farming sense).

    Also, isn’t a little thick to be giving such an award to the father of a grown, married woman?

    I guess the liberal idealism is at work here, conflating enthusiasm of a welfare state with actually caring about people.

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 6:55 pm Skunk

      Isn’t his only acknowledged child in her 30’s now? How is he even a candidate?

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  87. on January 10, 2013 at 12:37 pm Rusty Shackelford

    How much you wanna bet that the wife probably loves the mixed race sprog more than her first kid?

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 1:47 pm Anonymous

      Yeah, the first kid’ll be hating life… but it’s all about her.

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  88. on January 10, 2013 at 1:23 pm corvinus

    Hey Heartiste:

    In your posted article about men in a jury having a bias against fat women, I saw this remark in the comments:

    I can tell you this: The vast majority of rape cases that actually go to trial involve a female complainant that is overweight. it is actually quite rare that a rape case proceeds to trial when the complainant is a healthy weight

    In other words, fat women account for the vast majority of rape accusations.

    One more reason our dicks go limp when confronted with obese women: as a self-defense mechanism. Granted, the poster also said that men were less likely to be convicted of raping fat women, but the hassle can be expensive, not to mention the hit to one’s reputation.

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  89. on January 10, 2013 at 1:24 pm Sgt. Joe Friday

    Did anyone else mention that Steely Dan recorded a song about this back in 1975 or 1976? Haitian Divorce, I believe it was called.

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 1:45 pm Greg Eliot

      Heh, heh… good catch.

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 1:50 pm Greg Eliot

      Ah, yes… Mssrs. Fagen and Becker… oops, never mind. 🙂

      For the record, I actually like their unique style of music… nevertheless 😉

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 3:47 pm Cloudswrest

      This situation was also visually parodied on the TV shows “My Name is Earl” and “King of the Hill”.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 2:40 pm brookingstyler

        “Good thing John Redcorn ‘ll be there to keep an eye on her.”

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 3:55 pm Days of Broken Arrows

      Yeah, I forgot about that! “who’s that kinky so-and-so?” Great tune.

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  90. on January 10, 2013 at 1:59 pm Anonymous

    Dude should get da F out… it’ll suck either way, but divorce (even w/ court-ordered shafting) and starting over w/ squat at his age is better than hell for the rest of his life.

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  91. on January 10, 2013 at 2:10 pm Doc

    For a man to be so beta is painful to see… Why would any man stand for this? I would have kicked her to the curb so fast her head would spin, and use her infidility to try to get my child (after verifying that it was actually mine through DNA testing). Whenever women query me as to if I want children, I always say “Yes, but I would verify they were actually mine by DNA testing before my name was listed as the father.”

    The reason for that is simple – I am the father of more than a few children to beta husbands out there. Of course, their wives were at least smart enough to keep the race the same… This woman knew her husband was a moron and rubs his face in it with that child repeatedly.

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 2:39 pm DirkJohanson

      This brings up a good point; if this type of inter-racial cuckolding becomes acceptable, all other things being equal, it will severely cut down on the number of opportunities us white guys will get for relatively NSA sex with married cheating white women. Not that I’ve had so many such experiences (while I’ve fucked a lot of married women, nearly all were swingers), but I especially wouldn’t want to have missed out on this one particular Brazilian.

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 6:05 pm corvinus

      The reason for that is simple – I am the father of more than a few children to beta husbands out there.

      Hmm… in how many of those cases was the beta husband refusing to have children? I’ve noticed that wives tend to want children more than husbands do these days.

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  92. on January 10, 2013 at 3:16 pm Firepower

    My, my…
    Look at all of you!
    Pre-O-Bama –
    You’d have lurved a Mixed-Race nephew…
    Now, you’re all like
    “Diversity is Kinda Maybe Icky!”

    What happened?
    Did a colored move in next door
    …or did ya’ll take a look at your paychecks
    With all them NEW TAXES taken out?

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 3:20 pm Greg Eliot

      Not exactly the St. Crispin’s Day speech… but it’ll do for now. 😉

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 3:25 pm Firepower

        Oh, YOU hang it out with
        A lot of Current American Guys
        Who really “get”
        The Shakespeare?

        What with That Ole Bill
        Being Rayciss
        you should just stick with
        Judy Garland…

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 3:28 pm Greg Eliot

        What can I say, I was schooled back before The Bard was a gay imposter.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 3:31 pm Firepower

        I’m starting to maybe
        Like you
        again

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 3:37 pm Greg Eliot

        Fast forward to 9:03

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 7:43 pm Kate

      Firepower back at the Chateau. My day is made. Its true that home is where the hearth is 🙂

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 8:50 pm Firepower

        yep, if this is how much thread brouhaha comes down
        when one colored family moves onto a DC street
        where the posters live
        I can’t IMAGINE the dustup to happen
        when that SECOND colored family moves in…

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 9:00 pm Neecy

        And where in the double h e ll have you been mister!? I had to find a new lover at the Chateau! And his name is Greg Eliot! 😛

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 9:37 pm Kate

        The man you’re looking for is thwack 🙂

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 9:46 pm Neecy

        Oh now now Kate. You’re not one of those WHite women who just assumes to try to hook a Black woman up with the resident Black guy, just cause he’s Black now are you? LOL

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 9:53 pm Kate

        There’s no time for questions! Get your best photo of your backside ready. He’ll want to see it 😉

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 9:57 pm Neecy

        Thwack or Firepower?

        Either way

        No need for booty shots. My sweet intoxicating CHARM works juuust fine 😉

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 8:46 pm thwack

        Kate, thanks but no thanks.

        Neecy is one of those black girls who has been “ran thru” by a bunch of white guys; but I have no problem with that.

        The problem is, when she meets me, she won’t do any of the sick twisted sexual stuff she did with all the white guys because NOW “she’s a good girl…”

        I know about about these kinds of black girls.

        Bless their hearts.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 8:57 pm Kate

        If that’s not a good example of disqualification, I don’t know what is 🙂

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      • on January 12, 2013 at 3:20 pm NiteLily

        “The problem is, when she meets me, she won’t do any of the sick twisted sexual stuff she did with all the white guys because NOW “she’s a good girl…”
        I know about about these kinds of black girls.”

        White girls do the same exact thing until they meet the ONE. Until they meet him they play the field as if sex is going out of business, but when they meet one with potential all of a sudden they need to pretend they are goody goodies. Women exercise double standards all the time. Just sayin’. But Neecy is a cute girl, you should reconsider.

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      • on January 14, 2013 at 1:49 am Neecy

        LOL @ THWACK.

        yeah i sure have been “run through” by a bunch of WHite guys. Oh wait I have only been with one WHite guy sexually. Yeah. WHATEVER!

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 11:41 pm Firepower

        Neecy said

        And where in the double h e ll have you been mister!? 😛

        girl, your too young for me

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 8:58 pm Neecy

        Back off!! He’s mine! (Although he did abandon me) 😡

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 9:35 pm Kate

        HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! Don’t hit me with your purse!

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 9:46 pm Neecy

        LOL Could be quite deadly!

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 12:05 am Greg Eliot

        Fickle woman! Wait’ll I get my hands on you… I’ll spank the black off your behind.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 11:47 pm Firepower

        Neecy

        Back off!! He’s mine! (Although he did abandon me) 😡

        I had a friend from Nigeria. A Pure motherlandcandy dream for all the African-American guys on campus. She (and her dad) were the biggest anti-african-americans I ever met. wouldn’t let her date them. both reeled off more nwords than a tarantino movie…

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  93. on January 10, 2013 at 3:44 pm chi-town

    I don’t know where it fits in except to say its trigging involuntary reflexes. My will is not entirely my own when I look upon this. Its something like the giggles only with the occasional acid burn of a chunk of barf from time to time. What an unusual psychological reaction this is causing.

    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-09-19/features/sc-fam-0918-age-gap-romance-20120919_1_age-gap-age-difference-age-matters

    http://www.trbimg.com/img-5058ed38/turbine/ct-sc-fam-0918-age-gap26.jpg-20120918/600

    And no sooner did I recover than to go into another fit of mostly laughter at :

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  94. on January 10, 2013 at 4:49 pm Greg Eliot

    BEST…. THREAD… EVA!!!

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    • on January 11, 2013 at 2:26 am aspic

      Naw, the first Justin Wayne thread was betta’

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  95. on January 10, 2013 at 4:53 pm electricangel

    Why not wait for the mixed-race girl to get older and knock HER up? It obviously wouldn’t be incest.

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  96. on January 10, 2013 at 6:31 pm Matthew King (King A)

    You crackerz are lucky Tarrantino has a camera and I don’t.

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  97. on January 10, 2013 at 7:04 pm Greg Eliot

    All right, enough of this focus on Hitler.

    It’s high time we turned our attention to a discussion of the hypergamous inclinations of Eva Braun.

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 7:20 pm Neecy

      I wonder what our mixed raced kids would look like Greg? LMAO!

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 8:07 pm Greg Eliot

        Picture a high-yeller Jeff Bridges.

        Hopefully he gets his mother’s smile… I tend towards a Midnight Sun brooding gravity.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 8:27 pm Neecy

        Oh so you just ASSUME its gonna be a boy!? Well I. Think we’d have a girl! 😀

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 8:34 pm Greg Eliot

        My track record says 75% chance of male. But I know how to make girls, if you really want one. 😉

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 9:02 pm Neecy

        Heee heeee!!! 😈

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 7:13 pm NiteLily

        Ha Ha…even Eliot is dabbling in black. His wife’s pussy must be getting dry.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 7:20 pm Greg Eliot

        Fie, woman… your mouth is intolerable enough without the vulgar attacks on a man’s family.

        Then again, it’s evidence like this which convinces one you’re indeed some young YKW putz typing away fiendishly from his room.

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      • on January 12, 2013 at 3:09 pm NiteLily

        hahahaha……There are times one cannot resist. I’ll try keeping that to a minimum though.

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      • on January 12, 2013 at 3:52 pm Jumbobeef

        >Ha Ha…even Eliot is dabbling in black. His wife’s pussy must be getting dry.

        Tell me again how many pills of testosterone have you took, look in the mirror you might have a mustache growing soon. Remember your pussy is dry from the day you were born, so no pity pity games here.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 8:29 pm Neecy

        YUM!!!

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  98. on January 10, 2013 at 7:19 pm Neecy

    Boy oh boy your “precious” white women’s sure know how to stick it to you don’t they? Lol

    I can’t imagine anyone with a SHRED if self respect sticking with a spouse that has had children outside if their marriage. Staying in a marriage with someone who has done the ultimate for “the sake if your kid” is bullshit. He’s staying in the marraife for HIMSELF! How does a kid benefit being in a home with a lying skank mother and a punk ass father?

    And what problem do y’all have with “mixed” raced kids? Well guess what? I’ll be having a couple of my own god willing and all you haters can HATE!

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    • on January 10, 2013 at 10:41 pm corvinus

      And what problem do y’all have with “mixed” raced kids? Well guess what? I’ll be having a couple of my own god willing and all you haters can HATE!

      Depends upon your waist size.

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 11:11 pm Neecy

        HA ha! Is that the only criteria you require? 😉

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      • on January 10, 2013 at 11:19 pm corvinus

        Being efficient here.

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  99. on January 10, 2013 at 9:03 pm Geekjock

    I think all woman have an innate attraction to black men. Let’s not forget that African genetic lineages are the oldest amongst all races. It was not until post-african migration that race differentiation was initiated causing me to think that women have hormonal cues present within them that are triggered at a subconscious level. If you interact with an African American male you’ll notice that alpha qualities are present but just in a rough, unsculpted sense. I speak from experience. I’m a 24 yr old and have always been able to date interracially with ease. To maximize my game I also maintain a consistent workout regimen; it’s glue for my game

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    • on January 11, 2013 at 1:26 am aries

      All woman ?
      I did not know every black man is surrounded by ,at least 20 white 20 asian and 20 latina women. black women would not count.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 1:47 am Greg Eliot

        Mock the troll, don’t feed him.

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    • on January 11, 2013 at 10:57 pm obsessivecakedisorder

      No.

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  100. on January 10, 2013 at 10:24 pm What Kind Of Woman Cuckolds A Man? « PUA Central

    […] hot on the crooked heels of yesterday’s BOTM nomination, a new study is out which gives support to the conventional wisdom that skanks, fugs and other […]

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  101. on January 10, 2013 at 10:37 pm Starets

    @ Greg Eliot, from way back in the thread:

    ” ‘You’re wrong on this, Greg Eliot…’

    I’m confused as to how I suddenly bear the brunt of accusation…”

    Isn’t it blindingly obvious? You’re giving both NiteLily and RappsDaughter a serious case of the tingles.

    You jack booted bad boy, you!

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    • on January 11, 2013 at 12:14 am Greg Eliot

      Heh, heh…

      I attribute it to that innate attraction to white men that all women have. Let’s not forget that white genetic lineages are among the newest of all races, and I firmly believe that women have hormonal cues present within them at a subconscious level to desire the novel, the fair, the highly-evolved. If you interact with a white male, you’ll notice that these qualities are present in a sculpted, as if chiseled in granite, sense.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 1:33 am Starets

        True. Unfortunately, the attraction of non-white men to white women is even stronger, leading to the occasional abomination as described in this post.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 5:50 am Geekjock

        What one person may call highly-evolved another may suggest mutation. The newness of race is as a result of the natural selection mechanism post-migration. Lack of sun contributing to melanin loss, variations in climate rewarding the smartest (which explains the superb manipulative nature that you all possess.), less athletic prowess due to shorter hunting seasons. Mind you, these are my personal theories as I’m only 24.ive gotten to the age where I realize how much I don’t know but my current education has triggered the drive to construct my own reality based on observations.

        Additional things that I’ve observed are that white Women seem to have a shorter length of there reproductive prime as noticed by this wall of 30 that you all refer to. Other races(older races,unmutated) of women are fuckable well until 50(childless of course) minus asians; hotter climates equals more sex (end of winter = spring break partying/sex). This new race is as a result of environmentally-driven survival adaption.

        The situation that african AMERICANS find themselves in, especially as males compared to white males, derives from social mechanisms ingrained from the attempts at omegatization of the black male(slavery; it happened, I’m over it but it’s effects linger). And women being submissive as they are had no choice but to adopt the way of thinking at that time in an attempt to support the white man. These sculpted qualities you speak of we’re handed down and not earned by a every man.

        Post slavery society has made it difficult for minorities to succeed which initiated a socioeconomic natural selective process where only the most alpha of a race is rewarded with significance in society. And now those guys have reproduced giving there children the opportunity equal to those given to the whites now allowing the alpha-esque traits to be put on display (Obama; although I didn’t vote for him)

        Liberation of all women set off the succeding events of which I suggest. The freedom of thought given by those movements planted the seed for interracial relations to multiply. Now those women have reproduced this generation of supremely goal driven chicks that need to be dominated. Who else other than a bass heavy voice possessing, athletic, extended reproductive prime having specimen could have the potential to demonstrate mate value.

        While I notice the attractive white women won’t LTR a black man as that would lower her handed high status. But best believe they will fuck us.

        The attraction of nonwhite men to white women is due I’m sure to subconscious reproductive mechanisms within all males to conquer all attractive women, natures way of makin sure genetic variation doesn’t die out.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 4:15 pm Greg Eliot

        By de waters o’ Babble-On…

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 4:33 pm Geekjock

        You’re welcome for the entertainment.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 4:42 pm Greg Eliot

        Much obliged… we haven’t had your kind of muh-dik trolling around here in, say, oh, about two threads.

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      • on January 11, 2013 at 10:58 pm obsessivecakedisorder

        Rawr.

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      • on January 12, 2013 at 12:21 am Greg Eliot

        I’m getting kinda fond of you too. 😉

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      • on January 12, 2013 at 1:22 am obsessivecakedisorder

        You just want cake.
        😀

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      • on January 12, 2013 at 1:29 am Greg Eliot

        Shake n’ bake, baby.

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  102. on January 11, 2013 at 2:23 am aspic

    Better to be an aspievirgin than a cuckold, I whisper in the solitude of base.ment mine….

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  103. on January 11, 2013 at 3:43 am gunslingergregi

    yea thats all bad
    white dudes will kill for their country no problem but kill for their own selves much harder to do i guess

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  104. on January 11, 2013 at 4:36 am gunslingergregi

    easier to play video games all day and fuck ho’s than to have relationship bullshit i know that
    tired of fucking another chick same old pussy diferent day

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  105. on January 11, 2013 at 7:37 am Rumpole Stilskin

    Go on holiday with the black kid, drop him off in a baby box in Europe and say you lost him somewhere in Thailand.

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    • on January 21, 2013 at 1:02 am Starets

      Why add more pollution to Europe? They have enough trouble already.

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  106. on January 11, 2013 at 9:09 am Burton

    Why would any man stand for this?

    It’s what you get when you have a society full of feminized-sensitive-in-touch-with-their-feelings-pro-feminist males.

    Perhaps all this is part of some underlying genetic correction: females unconsciously mating with alpha males to restore the proper balance? On the other hand, it could be the end of civilization as we know it.

    No wonder so many Americans are stocking up on ammo and MREs.

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    • on January 11, 2013 at 11:43 pm Stuki

      Cases like this, is proof positive “civilization” has ended a long time ago. May all that ammo come to good use..

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  107. on January 11, 2013 at 1:21 pm Andrea

    While the wife is obviously in the wrong, the “beta” decision to stick around “for the sake of the children” was the right one and I commend the father. This very blog has time and time again provided evidence of the damage done by single motherhood, so by sticking around, the dad is reducing the risk of his son growing up in poverty or without the attention available in two-parent homes.

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    • on January 11, 2013 at 1:25 pm Andrea

      Although, I should add, in the ideal scenario he would get custody of the kid and marry a less slutty woman so that at least the child would have some semblance of a decent mother. But that’s not likely to happen.

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    • on January 11, 2013 at 11:41 pm Stuki

      In civilized societies, whores and their spawn are weeded out, to make room for better women, and children raised by better mothers. In fact, that’s the only way a society can manage to stay civilized.

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    • on January 12, 2013 at 1:33 am Greg Eliot

      Too high a price to pay for warding off possible future issues related to single motherhood. 🙄

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  108. on January 11, 2013 at 11:08 pm obsessivecakedisorder

    At least my mother-in-law had the sense to cheat on her travelling, unmistakably Italian husband with another unmistakable Italian. Not so much sense to be more careful about it.

    Husband died when mine was a baby; six months later, when his body arrived for burial, she was three months pregnant. And to this day, she wonders why his entire family hates her. Now you can tell my husband’s lineage is true; he looks exactly like his father, but most Italian babies look like every other Italian out there. So yeah, I’d hate your ass, too, if you showed up at my son’s funeral, pregnant with another man’s child, with a grandson who could be anyone’s at this point… maybe even the other man’s because they do look a good bit alike… No insurance money for you!

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  109. on January 12, 2013 at 4:08 am vengar

    There need to be more mass shootings, not less.

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    • on January 12, 2013 at 10:11 am thwack

      Ape shall not kill Ape.

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  110. on January 12, 2013 at 2:35 pm Jackie DeLister

    I should have gotten credit for sending you the link to this story on twitter.

    Also, I’m hoping the letter is a fraud. No man should have to live with such a burden.

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    • on January 14, 2013 at 11:43 pm obsessivecakedisorder

      Why would you want credit for something you hope is a falsehood?

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  111. on January 13, 2013 at 4:04 am Markku

    “How about custoduy of the kids, Markku? In SE c:a 90% of all court fights end up in the womans favor, keeping the kids along with alimony/child support and the man getting to see them every second week-end (unless she moves far away which under those circumstances she usually gets away with legally).”

    The overwhelming majority of single custodian parents are mothers. However, joint custody is quite common. Living arrangements are a separate matter. Most children whose parents are divorced live with their mother. An increasingly common arrangement is for the children to live every other week with the parent whose address is not the official address of the children.

    P.S. I checked the alimony issue. It is possible that the ex-spouse with higher income be ordered to pay alimony to the other – temporarily. But the idea and practice is not to guarantee the pre-divorce standard of living but to help the other to start a new life if the circumstances are particularly difficult. I’ve never heard of anyone who was ordered to pay alimony.

    Child support depends on living arrangements. The sum is usually a few hundred euros per month per child.

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  112. on January 14, 2013 at 6:11 pm Veronica Malone (@VeronicaMalone7)

    I love your blog and read it every day….and I feel Iv’e gained a mountain of good advice- I’m a woman. But Im wondering why you blast women mercilessly for cuckholdry(rightly so) but write posts about how to cheat on your girlfriend? Trying really hard to figure it out.

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  113. on January 16, 2013 at 9:10 am DirkJohanson

    Girls’ Biracial Look Cited in Ordering Genetic Test in Paternity Suit

    By John CaherContactAll Articles

    New York Law Journal

    January 15, 2013

    Despite a century of legal tradition that a child’s appearance should not factor into paternity determinations, Judge Patricia Gallaher ordered genetic testing for two girls said to have a complexion quite different from that of the white couple listed as their parents.

    http://www.newyorklawjournal.com/PubArticleNY.jsp?id=1202584406880

    So, in other words, for the last 100 hundred years – and perhaps still – New York law encourages cuckolding. Apparently the only reason this case is coming out differently is because the guy who did the cuckolding is suing.

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  114. on January 23, 2013 at 3:41 pm Rhahael

    “Despite continuing weekly evidence to the contrary, I will continue to believe that the vast majority of men who think they are the biological fathers of their children really did provide the sperm.”

    If she says so…

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  115. on February 23, 2013 at 12:28 am A Portrait of an Insufferable Wife | Young Man Red Pill

    […] I wonder if accounts of how bad some guys have it in their marriages might be exaggerated. Like this guy. Can your wife really be such a huge bitch to you after you have tried to build a life […]

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  116. on March 5, 2013 at 6:32 pm Supplement Guy

    God damn, everytime I read heartiste it’s like reading poetry. How can someone write so well and paint a vivid picture in the reader’s mind.

    Anyone have good tips for writing well like heartiste? I surely won’t find it in “element of style” or some shit tier book like “eat shoot leave”.

    Or am I forever cursed to write in a shit tier conversational style? ;__;

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  117. on March 5, 2013 at 11:36 pm March 2013 Beta Of The Month « PUA Central

    […] readers squalled, and their demands were answered: Beta of the Month is back in a big way. And why not? There’s nothing like a real life story ripped from the headlines to illuminate the […]

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  118. on March 6, 2013 at 4:34 pm March 2013 Beta Of The Month « PUA Central

    […] readers squalled, and their demands were answered: Beta of the Month is back in a big way. And why not? There’s nothing like a real life story ripped from the headlines to illuminate […]

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  119. on March 7, 2013 at 7:56 pm derickburton

    Bait and switch:

    http://www.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/19s167/ready_to_cheat_on_my_wife_xpost_from_roffmychest/

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