Ah women… saintly creatures. The fairer sex. Daddies’ little princesses. And also more likely than men to be homewreckers.
Do women prefer men who are attached?
“Everything was the same across all participants, except whether their ideal mate was already attached or not,” says Burkley.
The most striking result was in the responses of single women. Offered a single man, 59 per cent were interested in pursuing a relationship. But when he was attached, 90 per cent said they were up for the chase.
Men were keenest on pursuing new mates, but weren’t bothered whether their target was already attached or not.
This shouldn’t be news to veteran readers of CH. We of the illuminati already knew, from years toiling in the field, getting our dicks dirty, that women:
1. love to CHASE CHASE CHASE aloof men who aren’t readily available
2. love preselected men other women love, and
3. love the drama that necessarily accompanies stealing a validated man from his girlfriend or wife.
Really, if feminists were smart (asking a lot, I know), they’d realize their worst enemies aren’t laser-guided ego-targeting truth bombers like yours truly, but other women who will claw, scratch and passive-aggressively sabotage their way over the messed tresses of their sexual market competitors. Politically, women may be a united front, but privately they are at each other’s throats. And they attack with their knives sheathed, plausible deniability and rationalizing hamsters their greatest allies in this total war of gene delivery vessels, which makes them all the more potent adversaries.
So buying a wedding band and wearing it out is the Game technique that gives a massive boost in DHV? Good to know…
[Heartiste: Yes. But the boost in DHV may be outweighed by the wife’s allies in the divorce industrial complex.]
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@Heartiste,
Wedding bands are cheap and you don’t need a wife to get or wear one. It also gives you an ever better excuse why you can’t take her back to your place…
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Depends if you get a real one or not.
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I bet you are can get a discount one at a pawn shop…
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my boy did that. got a used wedding band for $50. on nights that he went out and wore it, he noticed the extra attention from women. many women are DTF and hamsterize the fuck with, “i don’t worry about him getting attached.” all it can be is sex, and since you’re married, HAVE to hook up at her place or get a hotel room, which is seedy so girls LOVE it.
they get to be a bad girl without worrying about any real commitment. hell, a guy would be stupid for NOT using this to his advantage.
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“many women are DTF and hamsterize the fuck with, “i don’t worry about him getting attached.” all it can be is sex”
This is an important point. Guys don’t realize how clingy they and 90% of guys are, especially with hotter girls. We joke about girls being “Stage 5 Clingers” but guys are just as bad if not worse because most guys are so desperate for sex that they need to cling with a death grip to any pussy they can get.
The ring on your buddy tells girls “I’m fun, but just for sex” the same way my girl’s photograph on my nightstand does.
When the girl doesn’t know I have a girlfriend or when I’m single, I set this same frame by telling them I’m dead inside (in a joking way) and joke that I’m going to call them 24/7 leaving them voicemails about how much a love them and can’t live without them. Usually this gets them telling me their experiences with clingy-ass guys, and we laugh about people like that and then the frame of this being a casual sexual fling is set and I have a new fuckbuddy.
This is just disqualifying yourself from being a Provider, essentially.
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Has wearing a wedding ring actually helped any of you guys?
Personally, I think that two of the grandest lies that women tell is that wearing a wedding ring will get you attention and that carrying a baby will get you attention.
I never noticed any different level of attention between wearing a wedding ring and not.
And, when I have carried a baby it felt like I might as well be a table. Women do notice that you have a baby but all the attention is directed to the baby (not that it’s necessarily a bad thing to have a chick magnet in your hands).
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It’s not about “baby” per se but “your baby”. At least if you want direct attention. I’ve got strong genetics that have manifested themselves in my children and so when we all go out to the store (Walmart is particularly “bad”) I frequently find myself being touched by random women. A firm pressure on my shoulder accompanied by an “OMG! Are they TWINS?!?” typically happens at least once if I happen to be out with the kids alone. I would also say that if you want to use “wedding ring game,” it’s far more effective to wear the ring on a chain around your neck and toy with it while talking to the target. Women can’t help but ask about it and then you go with, “Well, *sigh* I was married once…” and off you go.
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Kids get you a lot of attention but only when people see them as cute. It’s happened to me more often than I care to count: the women see the adorable creature and then start checking me up “Hmm now. OK, I see where the angel’s traits came from…” End result is a beaming smile at me and glances afterwards.
Or you go out in a mall or a restaurant with, say four boys (your kids and their buddies), you can see the women’s thoughts on their faces:
“He’s there with four sons. Wonder where’s the mother? He seems to be getting along really well with them boys, if my fifteen minutes of constant watching can tell. I’m gonna go out of my way to make him talk to me, no matter how small a convo. Who knows, he might be a widower looking for a healing fuck if the opportunity knocks. Uh, he looked my way. Wanna make a fifth boy right here?”.
I often amuse myself by playing a game of avoidance when I detect a woman’s radar locked on me. I turn my head away and change my course on the supermarket aisle suddenly right before she opens her mouth. Just to make it more difficult for women to start talking. It’s funny how many of them hunt you down again just to say something or catch your eye and smile.
On the ring thing I am not quite sure. At least it doesn’t scare women off when they have decided they want you. I’ve never hidden my ring, and women have offered sex anyway, fully aware of it. Whether it adds to the initial attraction I don’t know.
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the ring around your neck as a sign of a past trophy!
I like it! Especially when you are older than the rest of the crowd and indeed divorced w/ kids, it might be best to hide the truth in plain sight.
Great conversation starter, right ? or not?
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Sometimes i go around carrying my “baby”. women surely notice when I have my ”baby” in my hands. they like to coo and tickle my ‘baby”.i let them touch it all they wnat…go ahead,I say,I know you want to play with…my “baby”.
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Yes. They are a DHV and a techinque. I winged for a friend that had 5 rings on his hand. Girls instantly started asking about that.
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1. Get a cheap wedding band.
2. Go to ANY east-Texas bar on a Friday or Saturday night.
3. Sit quietly at the corner of the bar, drinking beer and thinking deep thoughts.
4. Try not to DROWN in the sea of cheap pussy that flies your way.
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you have NO idea how well it works. I used to rent my squad leader’s wedding band for $10 a weekend when I was a young 11B in Berlin. Was the best way to score American ass. (we had three alert battalions of Infantry – one was out in the field while the other two were in ready status…whoever was out in the field was getting their old lady plowed by the dudes back in garrison. Yes, it’s shitty…but that’s life in the Army.)
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We came back from the field and one of my guys found his wife with her paramour. Tossed him out the third story window. Fortunately for the paramour we had about 2 feet of snow. The wife got sent back to the states. The tosser got new-found respect in the unit because he was mild-mannered and quiet. I was an 11H in Berlin.
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Were you there in the late 80s?
Man, there was some high quality ass around there. I once fucked a Hollywood-quality call girl for DM50, all night (the LT bought a bunch of us whores when we got back from being a major pain in 10th Gp’s ass one year).
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84-88. Married at the time so I couldn’t sample the local fauna. I had to live vicariously through my buddies, though that never stopped me from looking and chatting a bit.
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We probably passed each other, I was there 88-92. Were you still there when Samano(sp?) got killed on the mortar range?
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I left in Feb/Mar 88 so we passed each other. My best friend was there when the wall came down. I would have loved to have been there for that.
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I’d also like to point out one case of super-hamster inherent in the preselection: it is often justified as “the man having already proven himself of being capable of commitment”. But in order for the woman to have the preselected man, he would first have to break his commitment, rendering it automatically worthless. Such is the irony of female desire…
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And thus you’ve got the swooning over widowers.
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Exactly.
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I don’t think most men can clearly understand the behemoth that is the modern female ego. The biological reasons are all well and true, but power trips and ego boosts should also play into accounts. It’s the same reason women love guys that play hard to get. If you’re unavailable, but then become available TO ME, then it means I am mighty special.
This dykey friend of mine never paid my (then) guy-friend any mind, not until he became my boyfriend. Then when I was away on a trip, she offered him consequence free sex (he was insulted).
That was not mate poaching, that was looking for an ego boost.
Women are mean ; _ ;
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“Women are mean” you are right
but saying women are mean is also an immense understatement.
If a man hits a woman we can show the pictures of the bruises
but when women abuse and torture men psychologically , there are no pictures, no evidence, but the damage is often worse
women also abuse other women psychologically until they develop an eating disorder
Now that is serious abuse, but again, no pics and no evidence
I’m 53 years old, my experience and that of most men I know is that women are capable of the worse evil – not physical violence, but psychological violence.
I still love women – there is not a gay cell in me – but the more women I meet, the less I trust them, the more they scare me.
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It’s true. I don’t know if its our attention to detail or what, but we are capable of nuclear insults. Men can hurt with apathy, though.
My favorite are those backhanded compliments….”oh, you have such confidence to wear that tight dress, good for you.”
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Amen!
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That’s what you call a friend? I’d hold most strangers in higher regard.
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My best female friends are the girls I’ve never met or interacted with.
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Pretty much in line with what i see. My ex girlfriend texts me the raunchest nastiest photos i’ve seen out of her now that she knows i’m banging another chick. Pretty comical.
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Well the point is, would she pursue a relationship? Or is she just out to wreck yours, as it would make her compare favorably to the other chick you’re banging.
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This is why whenever an attractive girl asks my relationship status, I reply “it’s complicated.” Hamster meth.
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Whenever a gal asks me where I’ve been lately…I respond
“I’ve been around.”
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Heh. Stealing that.
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We used to say:
“I don’t travel much… but I’ve been known to get around.”
With, of course, the de rigueur Cheshire shit-eatin’ grin.
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Dd you forget that you read that line on this blog? I have been noticing a lot of commenters here and on other blogs echoing back ideas (without citation) that the blogger undoubtedly originally implanted in the commenter’s brain.
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No. I learned that line from a buddy from our days in the service.
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I think this is why my girls slaps my hand away when I tastefully “feel her up” in public ( a hug, a neck kiss and a quick ass squeeze…)
She is concerned that Im using her to show other women what I would do to them.
In addition, I suspect a womans attraction to a man in uniform represents a “taken man” to the extent that he is pre-qualified by what ever organization his uniform represents.
[Heartiste: Women — high value women at least — generally dislike PDA. I’ve argued that they dislike it because PDA by men is a form of mate guarding which signals needy betaness. But they may also hate it because it more strongly signals to other women that the man can put his paws all over his lady, and that reinforces his preselected status which elevates the risk of homewrecking interlopers honing in on him. It’s an interesting theoretical question.
Btw, lots of alpha men also hate PDA, because it cramps their style; their style being, namely, to signal availability to other women who could serve as potential mistresses. I hate getting PDA from chicks I’m dating who I’m not particularly into. It closes off promising alternate avenues of sexual delight.]
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Your girlfriend is 100% right.
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high value or not, when a feminine woman is really into you, she can’t keep her hands off you.
I find the more masculine chicks shun PDA, like anyone would want to touch them anyway.
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Yes and no. I have been in 3 ltrs since I was 15.. low beta, high beta and an alpha (both betas ltrs ~ 3 yrs, Alpha ltr ~7 mths (reason I found this site), In between break ups….I dated a handful of betas and alphas. I observed that the low betas where the ones who ALWAYS initiated PDAs. I am okay with handholding, occassional hug/kino here and there etc but I feel extremely uncomfortable kissing or worse, full on making out in Public! It is so crass and tacky. In my relationships with Alpha/dates with alphas, they were never into PDA either unless we been out clubbing and were intoxicated etc, but there have been (sober) moments when they would hold my hand to lead me which I loved. There was this engineer beta I went on a date with recently, quite handsome actually but I knew there was not going to be a second date due to the excessive touching (rubbing elbows while we were at the restaurant…shivers and touching me everytime he laughed)….twas the creepiest thing I have ever encountered on a first date. PDA is gross unless it is simple handholding or pec on the forehead and both parties are in LTRs. and I am as feminine as they come so…..
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“moments when they would hold my hand to lead me which I loved”
This is the one type of PDA that I really enjoyed, also. The rest I could live without.
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Really? You wouldn’t be charmed if your date just open-mouthed kissed you pretty much out of the blue and then said, “I guess that was a little forward of me.” LOL I must be different 🙂
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pda whats wrong with it
my chick will walk towards me then run full speed and jump up on me wrapping her legs around me
dudes like dam thats true love wish i had a camera
jumps off top of truck i catch her
we like clebrities people take pics
we dance bitches just stare
i got her with one arm down to the floor
got her from behind she spins to kiss me hard
we have a flow
had a flat tire outside club
carload of chicks gave me some run flat and waited till i got it in then we left
when i see a couple in the club grooving and in sink together makes me happy for em i want to clap cause it is a rare thing
might as well have that kind of time in my book
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or if your in love and not having a good time what is the point
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The kissing passionately part is good, but I’m not sure I like “I guess that was a little forward of me”. It sounds too much like an apology.
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I think there’s a term for it, but I’m forgetting my Pick-Up 101 training. If you acknowledge an objection a woman might be having, it has a way of dispelling it.
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“The kissing passionately part is good”
That’s a bit too much information. Kissing passionately is something you do in private when the shades are drawn, not in public. Although, I can forgive it in a club where the lights are low and you’re in the mood. Not in a restaurant though, and definitely not in a classy joint.
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what if he “took it out”?
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I should have been more specific but you’re not contradicting anything I said.
after you fuck them, feminine women want to INITIATE pda and touching in general. it’s a reliable measure of how into you a girl is.
you’re talking about being creeped out by guys who initiated pda with you pre-bang. to me there is an obvious difference. that’s why I don’t like Heartiste’s statement that “high value women dislike PDA”. Such a statement can’t be made without a lot of qualifiers. Who initiates the PDA and what kind of PDA is important.
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“after you fuck them, feminine women want to INITIATE pda and touching in general. it’s a reliable measure of how into you a girl is.”
Well, a slight correction. After you banged them they need you to initiate PDA so that they feel you’re into them and not just about having sex.
Feminine women don’t initiate lots of PDA, but they do engage in it once you start. They need to be validated by their man. It’s like a hot girl always needs to see the effect she has on men. It’s a drug to her, no matter how pretty she is and how much she knows how pretty she is, she always needs that validation to be told she is pretty. PDA works the same way. If a girl slept with you and you act indifferent, maybe she will come for more because she is a glutton for punishment with low self-esteem, but attractive girls with lots of male attention usually need that validation form you to feel good about having had sex with you. You do it in the form of PDA, but of course, never overdo it.
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“but I knew there was not going to be a second date due to the excessive touching (rubbing elbows while we were at the restaurant…shivers and touching me everytime he laughed)….twas the creepiest thing I have ever encountered on a first date.“
Well, of course. Who is he to be touching you on the first date? It’s annoying as hell. The first date is like a job interview, not a practice of watered-down sex acts.
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Disagree. ONSs start somehow!
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Why be concerned? Just enjoy it, I say 🙂
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kate is that you must have have found the right dude
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Yeah, but he’s slipped out of my sticky web of cuddlewoo.
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aww
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Don’t worry. I’m carefully crafting a counterattack of bikini-warfare. 😉
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well my chick can just pick any guy now so keep having fun 🙂
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Cuddlewoo Bikini War… sure to outsell Girls Gone Wild.
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Never been a fan of PDA myself as a guy…to me I think gals hate it when a man does it moreso because they will think other gals are judging her.
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they both hate it and love it.
they hate it for reasons already given by you and other commenters, but they also love it because it’s a signal to other females that you have chosen her, that you own her. it’s a ‘nyah nyah!’.
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Exactly! Women love to feel owned, so as long as it’s done tastefully, it’s cool. Otherwise, it’s tacky. Especially, if you are a couple that values privacy, you wouldn’t do that in public so that other people get entertained by your display. Let them go to the zoo instead.
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What about PDD? Public display of domination (hair pulling, ass slapping, arm restraining etc…)?
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Nothing too overt, it makes you look insecure. But subtle order-and-response shames other men, pisses off the wrong women, stirs up the right ones, and thrills your well-adjusted girl to take a brief tip-toe out of the “Yep, I’m his whore” closet. Good for relationships, great for society: unpossessive men should be ridiculed by other men’s actions into reforming themselves.
Matt
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Sirrah Grumio, go to your mistress;
Say, I command her to come to me.
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like her lighting your cigs for you and buying the drinks he he he
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Had a strange Saturday night. Let me preface with the fact that I don’t like to be touched (Husband is the exception of course), though I am very touchy. I don’t like to hear about the escapades of the swingers who live across the street from our friends. All that kinda freaks me out. Thanks, religious upbringing.
Turns out, the swinger dude was out of town hunting with friends of his and he would have his girlfriend (who he does not allow to interact sexually with anyone when he’s not present, but is free to do whatever and whomever he pleases at any time) go to random places in the house that he chose and take a picture of either a thing or herself in a certain place to prove to him that she was home. I thought that was the strangest use of modern technology, and of course, the discussion turned to domestic discipline, which I suppose is a nice phrase for D/s or some form thereof.
The swinger dude is never overt, but looking back after seeing that snapshot of their relationship, he’s very subtle with his dominance over her. She seems very satisfied with their relationship; even in private conversation with my friend and me, where she knows she could say anything and it would go no further, she has nothing bad to say about him. They’re so open about what they do with each other and the parties they go to, and I think now they expound on it all in front of me because it’s another thrill for them to watch me be uncomfortable. Which kind of bothers me because they know it does. I’m not offended because I don’t allow much to offend me, I just think those things should be private, I guess. See first paragraph, last sentence.
I dislike PDA; not a touch or handholding, but making out or grabhands. I think it’s tacky. I prefer to save our displays for the privacy of our home. I don’t have a problem with it so much in front of close friends of ours, perhaps because there’s a level of comfort. But I guess it’s all those things that make the world go ’round, PDD works for some people and you take your thrills where you can find them.
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You’re welcome, childhood abuse. Neglect/divorce/diddling, same diff.
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No, there was no childhood abuse, promise. The religious thing was a whole lot of ‘sex is shameful’, etc. As an adult, I’m of the mind that what two married, consenting adults do in their lies is fine between them, I still just don’t need to hear about it.
The touching thing has nothing with my childhood, it was some serious, horrible shaming from a viciously abusive past relationship.
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You say po-tay-to I say early, formative trauma. Either way, it isn’t “religious upbringing,” so stay on point.
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I know what it was. I know how I was raised. I know how I felt and still do.
The relationship was later in life.
I am on point.
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That’s too sexual and not in good taste. Trust me, a little bit of dominance and possessiveness goes a long way. This other stuff you’re describing is more like BDSM, if other people see you doing this. At this rate just put a collar around her neck and walk her around in public, lol. I once read about a guy who did this to his woman. He took her out to a fancy restaurant putting a collar on her and ordering her to wear a short sexy dress without underwear. She said it felt daring and sexy.
However, this is not for the average woman. It’s way too trashy for normal girls. But I guess, some women like such excitement.
If a girl allowed you to this to her, would you marry her?
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[Heartiste: Women — high value women at least — generally dislike PDA. I’ve argued that they dislike it because PDA by men is a form of mate guarding which signals needy betaness. But they may also hate it because it more strongly signals to other women that the man can put his paws all over his lady, and that reinforces his preselected status which elevates the risk of homewrecking interlopers honing in on him. It’s an interesting theoretical question.
I think some newbs think that they’re supposed to put their hands on her. This may also be an explanation for hoverhands: they think they should paw her, but don’t have the guts to do it. The fact that it’s alpha to keep your hands off her in public (unless you’re leading her somewhere by holding her hand, say, if the sidewalk is icy) should help betas avoid handisness, and omegas to avoid hoverhandsiness.
Btw, lots of alpha men also hate PDA, because it cramps their style; their style being, namely, to signal availability to other women who could serve as potential mistresses. I hate getting PDA from chicks I’m dating who I’m not particularly into. It closes off promising alternate avenues of sexual delight.]
So women get discouraged if they see another girl petting you? I’m confused… isn’t that the whole point of advertising preselection? What if any women who see a girl pawing you see you a few weeks later without the girl?
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He gets discouraged because those women are getting in the way of him meeting others. Its like someone monopolizing your attention so you can’t talk to or see anyone else. It probably does pay off later though.
Regarding “pawing”: paw has a good connotation to me, but you don’t want puppy paw, you want old dog paw. A guy’s touch should be heavy and substantial, not like a mosquito you want to brush away.
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To clarify, Im refering to wives and girlfriends, not “dates”, or some woman who don’t think you are hers. In addition when I say a “tastefull” PDA, Im not talking about a move that gets attention or makes people look. Im talking about the move that makes people keep looking if they are already looking.
Grabbing high or low on the waist and they move your hand away because you almost got a handfull of titty meat or ass…
To me, this is not mate guarding or beta because its my instinct, I do it when I want to do it and she’s want to be in charge of my instinct.
This is why it turns into a big arguement. She wants to be incharge of my instinct so it can be another thing about me she can CONTROL. She hates that she can’t control that part of me.
Its a grudge match that I will never allow her to win because at the end of the day, even though Im her pet tiger, Im still a wild animal and all bitches are at risk of being eaten, including her.
Grrrrrrrrrrrr.
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i’m in the zone on a chick again to the point where i can do anything including murder
what you got to do is take away all her body parts they aren’t hers anymore they are yours
so thats your ass your grabbing those are your tits your grabbing those are your legs those are your lips thats your pussy thats your body to do what the fuck you want with get her to start agreeing to that and should be good to go
only prob with it is she might mirror and start saying your dick is hers and talk about stuffing it and keeping it if you try to leave theres always pitfalls to everything i guess he he he
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Punctuation: try it.
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My God! That name you took,its SO funny! Really funny! Good one! Really! I get it ha ha ha. You’re a witty fellow arent you?
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what is life without fun if u dont try it u never know what it feels like live life to the fullest u only live once may as well have fun an be happy who wants to walk around feeling unoticed feeling not alive be alive an live just jump try it one time an c what it feels like beat u will keep jumping till u jump one day an dont come back up i say im gonna die jumping i love it that much u will never know what it feels like to slam off ur dudes body untill u try it so live o yea hes tellin the truth he owns me an i own him
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that was an add for bad idea jeans
allthough she read a bit talked about starting to post gauge my reaction looked for more shit i wrote then got bored quick and closed it he he he
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ps you spelled argument wrong he he he
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Im still a wild animal and all bitches are at risk of being eaten…
Several of the chateau chanteuses are reaching for their vapors.
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CH,
“that reinforces his preselected status which elevates the risk of homewrecking interlopers honing in on him. “
I don’t know if that’s necessarily true. Women are stupid and can’t keep their mouths shot, which is why they brag to their GFs how happy their man makes them, or how hot the sex is. Females become jealous of a happy satisfied woman who gets that happiness and satisfaction from the relationship with the man in her life. Therefore, a woman’s GFs are the most dangerous, not stranger females. It’s like if you were murdered, chances are it’s someone you know. Same thing with husband stealers, it’s usually a female the woman knows. That’s why I never speak about such private things with my GFs. I end up knowing all their love life info, while they know nothing about mine, just a few superficial things.
“high value women at least — generally dislike PDA. I’ve argued that they dislike it because PDA by men is a form of mate guarding which signals needy betaness.“
Again, not necessarily. There is a type of PDA every woman wants. It has to be tasteful – light and a bit possessive, but not clingy and not too sexual. Holding hands or putting your hand on her thigh or waist is not a beta display, and if you still like to enforce your alpha status you can do it by alternating between PDA and flirting with the waitress or other women in the vicinity form time to time. This way, your girl can still see how desirable you are to other women. If anything, it turns me on when he flirts a little. It doesn’t upset me at all, as long as I have him showering me with enough attention, though. It’s better when a man feels free to be himself with you, and he doesn’t have to hide his feelings.
“I hate getting PDA from chicks I’m dating who I’m not particularly into. It closes off promising alternate avenues of sexual delight.”
Well that’s obvious. Why would you like it when you’re not into the girl? She comes across annoying and pushy. Besides, a woman shouldn’t be showering a man with PDA, that’s the man’s job. I find women that do that are too pushy and too masculine. A woman needs to act feminine – play coy and a bit coquettish. Especially a woman who is with a guy who’s really into her, let him be the man and make moves on you, even if you have been dating for a year. If he has high testosterone he will want to make some display in public about you being his. Those women made moves on you because they can sense you weren’t really into them.
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Nothng but fact in this post. I lived it as a kid, when my idiot Dad fell for the homewrecking whore chasing him. These bitches can’t be taken seriously……
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Great post. Also recommended: The Last Psychiatrists new post on women. She may be the most self aware woman I’ve ever read on the internets.
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I thought that was written by a man?
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i thought it was a man too
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whoops my bad. TLP is a man.
http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2013/01/no_self-respecting_woman_would.html
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self aware woman
not possible.
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Considering how cutthroat women are with each other…it still boggles my mind that guys want to be friends with them.
I laugh everytime when a woman says she wants to be friends first or that a guy says his wife is his best friend and confidant.
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Are you familiar with Rene Girard’s theory of mimetic desire? I suspect this principle plays a role here. Essentially, the theory holds that a substantial reason that people desire things is because those things are desired by other people. That is how we learn to value and compete over certain things. We generally seek riches because our role models and parents and neighbors seek riches. Very few people ever stop to take stock of what they actually want or what they actually need, so they often use other people’s desires as a way to determine what they should pursue. Think of how the stock market operates. Few traders have any real knowledge of how any particular stock will trend, but if a sufficient number of traders begin buying or selling a particular stock, most of the rest will follow.
Modern women, who are not consciously in tune with their desires, have very little understanding of what they want. So women use proxies to determine the men that they desire. If he is desired by other women, he must clearly be of high value, so she will desire him too. If another woman has gone so far as to enter into a close relationship with that man, then all the more reason to desire him. Men are far more understanding of their instincts and wants, so they do not need to use such proxies to know what they desire.
This is also a part of the reason that men are more likely to be leaders and women followers. Knowing and understanding what they want and what they should seek, men can often serve as women’s moral compass and her anchor in a world where she does not know what she ought to desire.
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… women…… have very little understanding of what they want…… If he is desired by other women, he must clearly be of high value, so she will desire him too…
I had come to more or less the same conclusion
women are not good at evaluating or ” appraising” men, few women have an analytical mind and most of them are driven by their hormones anyway, and hormones make then behave in very irrational ways
Women ( most of them ) being unable to ” appraise” the value of a man, they figure – consciously or not – that if another woman married him, he must be high value, so she wants him, the married one ( or the one with a girlfriend )
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I think Girard said more precisely that you don’t really want the object, but rather the “joy” it gives to its present owner.
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It’s all pre-selection – Having a woman is an alpha trait, and women want a piece of that.
I found that out about a year ago. I met a girl through a friend and we began casually hooking up, and she blabbed about it to all her friends. Suddenly her (Much hotter) best friend began pursuing me. Once I called it off with the main girl, the hot best friend just completely disappeared and I never spoke to her again. Chicks are driven crazy when they’re not the center of attention, so she was willing to ruin her friendship just to steal the thunder away from her friend.
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Your story is the exact reason women shouldn’t brag about their man to their GFs. It’s sheer folly.
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Completely off topic…
I could go on and on about my personal situation.. Bottom line is (judging myself in regards to most definitions i’ve read) I am a natural Alpha in regards to social interactions, personal and work related relationships, but especially in regards to women… I am single, 37, and at the very pinnacle of my game and poon aquisition. I would really like for someone, ANYONE, that lives and works in the West, how they felt getting that first paycheck of the year? I make an above “average” income I would say… and as it is, already try my best to live below my means and things remain relatively “tight” for me each month. And now I suddenly take home 160 bucks LESS a month? A new Tax hike they call it…
My feeling is today, as I scrape my last pennies together as it is to pay my utilities, that the Feminized West has almost successfully forced single men to settle into LTRs and marriages they have lived just fine without, to add that second income into their households. I could go on, but I think you get the point. Is this what America is trying to do? FORCE people together, by making it progressively more difficult to substain on our own?
I’m telling you man, I got that direct deposit and started wondering how quickly I could get the fuck out of dodge.
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It hurt and it sucks
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Utter shock and disbelief. Wondering if my political apathy all these years was a mistake. Depressed. Mostly depressed.
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We need a new set of social stigmas. The current PC, “anything one consents to is OK, the only thing to stigmatize are those who would criticize others for their choices” has got to go. The new stigmas will pretty much be the same as the old stigmas, only now we will understand why the old stigmas were what they were; that unleashed hypergamy is socially destructive.
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That won’t happen until the current edifice of lies crumbles. First, statist society collapses. Then, we rebuild.
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Saw and hammer in hand, boss.
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No need to participate in the demolition, lest you share in the blame. Let the horde of dullards who believe in the Free Shit Fairy™ learn the hard way on their own. Nothing less has a prayer of penetrating their thick skulls.
Let it burn.
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I was talking about the rebuilding. 😦
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Ah.
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Ive got my C4 and det cord, can I do some damage? Im black; its not like they can blame me for anything they ain’t already blamed me for?
(((shakin my head)))
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Heh. No comment.
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I think Greg meant to rebuild. I’d think more sledgehammer and blowtorch to raze the place. Nevermind that it’s not about ‘let it burn’ but ‘watch it burn’ because it’s inevitable at this point.
It’s coming, and for those who’ve always sucked at the government teat, it will be especially difficult, and for them, I have no sympathy. I can’t afford any since all the money I could have used to purchase some was taken for social programs that only enslave the weak minded. My F it meter is at 11.
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OCD is why I’m still a white knight… a white, white knight. 😉
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Skittles and rainbows, man, skittles and rainbows.
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Yah, sure. The Jesus descends from the sky?
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My size 12 ascends from the ground, Schlomo.
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man sows, that shall he also reap.
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For you will know my name is Lord when I LAY MY HANDS UPON YOU!!!! Much as i despise that fag QT,I do like that scene!The bible is cool!!
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The coolest.
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LOL! It’s always the “coolest” when you misinterpret it to justify your screwed up agenda, Nazzzi.
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Ah, the interminable stalker strikes again…
Cool your jets, yenta… I may look the SS man, but you’re just not my type.
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Admitting your Nazzzi-ness?
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Admitting your stalking of the man who drives you wild?
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Wild I say, wild, wild, wild……..
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Quite.
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I’m mirin’ this article Brah
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That doesn’t make you a homo, it makes you human.
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it’s like trying to get a job…is it better to already have a job or be unemployed? Employers want to know why you’re unemployed…but if you’re employed they are interested. Plus, you don’t look desperate…
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A very appropriate comparison given then most of HR is female.
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My GF gave me a framed picture of herself to keep on my nightstand. I’m pretty sure she figured it would scare off other women. And when I got a GF I figured telling girls I had one would scare them off.
Turns out it actually helps so much (not just in getting laid but in keeping the relationships to drama-free casual fuckbuddy situs (“sorry I can’t go to your xmas party with you, I already have a girlfriend for that shit remember?”)) that if she broke up with me I would probably keep her photo on my nightstand and keep telling girls I was still with her lol
George Costanza knew what was up:
lol
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Yah, this post hits home.
When a girl is attracted to you and interested in you… she could not CARE LESS about “ethics,” “morals,” rings, vows, or the “sisterhood”…
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And that not caring applies to both yours AND HERS.
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Color me not surprised…
intersexual competition strikes again. Like the child who wants to play with the toy the other children are playing with.
Moral of the story. Be the best toy, and they will cum.
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Yup https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MaOUnwfD1dQ
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Lettuce be cereal for a moment brah. When chicks are looking at the ring on my finger I point to them and say “you mirin’ brah?”
Wet panties fly off in all directions.
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CH should start up a companion blog with all the scientific research he’s compiled for our viewing pleasure.. call it Science vs. Feminism
or
You might be a Feminist retard if..
Seriously. Everytime i read CH put up another post of scientifically verifiable proof that blows massive holes in the keel of the HMS Femcunt and it’s start taking on water like a fat feminist inhales a can of CoolWhip foam… im always surprised they manage to somehow keep that ship adrift.
That ship needs to be brought down to davey jones.
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LULZ The Tattooed Troll Yenta Won’t marry until gay marriage is legal.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2013/01/15/lena-dunham-gay-marriage
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What a fucking slut!
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Yet another episode of You-Know-Who’s In The News? Preaching their gospel of debauchery?
Color me (not) shocked.
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I doubt you knew who she is, being the out of touch senior citizen you are. But I know what you do. You just Google everyone talked about in the Chateau and the moment you see them having any J connections, off you go spewing your hate. Your life is truly devoid of meaning if that’s what you live for.
FYI, Brad Pitt and Angie Jolie are not J, and they’re who started this trend a few years ago. In fact, Jolie is of German descent and one of the biggest liberals and biggest whores in HW (in case you didn’t know). Yet, no one blames them for being debouched Gentiles, like you always never miss an opportunity to remind everyone of a debauched J person. That’s why I say you’re mentally defunct. You have an irrational hate for the J, which is why no one could take your criticism of them seriously. In case it was lost on you, most of HW is liberal and they think like this slut. It doesn’t matter what their religion is, HW either breeds or beckons these people to her Hills.
Besides, this slut is a nobody. Sluts like her are a dime a dozen in the West. Most young people in Germany, BTW, don’t want to get married either. Most of them live together in one relationship after another. One of my good friends is from Austria and the same story holds true there according to her. I guess, they breed sluts in Europe. Why? Because most people abandoned religion. Most don’t go to church and don’t have old-fashioned values. It has nothing to do with their WHITE race. Same as you blaming this slut’s J-ness is absurd. Schwyzer much?
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You sound angry and unhinged.
Was it something I said?
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I doubt you knew who she is, being the out of touch senior citizen you are. But I know what you do. You just Google everyone talked about in the Chateau and the moment you see them having any J connections, off you go spewing your hate. Your life is truly devoid of meaning if that’s what you live for.
I think that speaks for itself. Obsession much?
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This I can confirm. I have had more attention and action since I got married.
The wife’s legs closed and others opened.
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With female standards there is no there, there. They only care what another woman thinks who only cares what another woman thinks and on and on into an oblivion of empty minds.
I have a female friend who is living with an older, physically unimpressive man, with limited means, and with a baby mama. She ended two (!) relationships with younger, better looking men, with no prior marriage or kids. And she is completely oblivious to the reason why she is an idiot even when I straight out tell her.
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In a world where all the women live in lala land, all that matters is confident alphaness. ALL else is futile.
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the article says:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17619-its-true-all-the-taken-men-are-best.html
“Apart from the explanation of “pre-screening”, another possibility”
Aint’ that a PUA term?
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I’ve known this truth for a LONG time. Good to see it on CH. It’s amazing how simply by being with a woman or spinning plates, other women just KNOW you are fucking someone else, and pick up on it immediately. You don’t have to say anything, they just know. It’s like they smell the residual pussy on you.
Funny how that works, when you’re not seeing anyone it’s harder to get women attracted to you simply by virtue of them knowing you have no one else jumping your bones. Though when preselected or taken suddenly you’re more of a bachelor than you were when actually single & furthermore a highly desirable prospective partner in other women’s eyes.
Works the other way too, once the women get you, or think they have you, suddenly all the other SINGLE men who aren’t tied down to a woman are more attractive, as well as the taken men whose relationships appear to be of better quality. It’s a lose/lose or win/win however you look at it: just be sure to enjoy yourself regardless, and never let yourself fall prey to believing what women say. Just climb the ladder like it’s Jacob’s or do as a woman would – onto the next better prospect according to a flim-flam whim of solipsistic I WANT I FEEL _____ nascent emotionally directive cues. Be a man: think like a woman: act via desire. Become a lesbian, essentially. Or jump ship! Or learn Game. Or don’t. Who cares anyways? After a year or so of all this Game it finally makes sense: nothing needs to make sense, just do whatever you do, and enjoy. Blow jobs, babies, bitches, & bondage will follow, naturally.
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This accounts for dry spells and deluges. Sometimes I’ll go for a while with little female attention, but when it rains, it pours.
That’s probably due to several factors, among which are the topic of the article and LVX’s comment and the confidence boost from spinning plates, which then plays out in frame and presentation.
So it’s a constructive spiral, or catch-22 if you’re in the dry spell. But that’s why we have game and the Chateau.
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Or they could take this man
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2257209/Wealthy-Indian-Datta-Phuge-spends-14-000-shirt-GOLD-impress-ladies.html
Beta of the Week perhaps
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Or this Beta of the Week, Tiger Woods?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2263497/Tiger-Woods-tries-win-ex-wife-Elin-200-million-deal-says-yes–claims-new-report.html
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Since their divorce, Elin has dated several men, including wealthy financier Jamie Dingman.
The stunning Swede, who recently showed off her flawless figure while on holiday in the Bahamas with her children and family, has been spotted around South Florida with professional hockey player Douglas Murray, who she was first romantically linked to in July 2012.
However the NHL player didn’t appear to be vacationing with Elin and her family at the exclusive Paradise Island resort.
She found out very quick that nobody of worth wants a scorned middle-aged divorced chick with a new entitlement complex. Either way her & Tigers relationship is already demolished beyond repair, she has 0 respect for him and it will not end pretty
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still worth a fling, not worth a ring.
hope she enjoyed getting mudsharked. now to retire on the carousel.
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Worth A Fling, Not A Ring… llllozozozozozlzlzlzlzlzozozozo
Somebody’s just gotta write that answer song to Single Ladies.
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Tiger didn’t grow up in the hood. Nobody taught him how to be a “playa”. So when his dad died, he dove in head first.
There is a lesson here.
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“Men were keenest on pursuing new mates, but weren’t bothered whether their target was already attached or not.”
Yeah, that’s me. But I recently started an affair with a single woman after several with married girls. Gotta say, it is refreshing to have a place to meet and have sex and only have one of us have to make excuses.
I am in my early 40s but even 5 years ago would have been SHOCKED at how many women – married or single – really seem to prefer attached men.
Marriage means next to nothing anymore (though it is better for the kids so that is why I am married).
Only gays went to get married.
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[…] [Women Prefer Taken Men] […]
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You know what else women prefer?
RAPE!
But seriously, ya, a fuckbuddy/wife/gf can get you laid more. Separate from pre-selection, it relaxes you if you’re hitting on another woman–less need to worry about “not getting laid” if you fuck it up, because you’ve got something else waiting for you. So you’re more confident AND less needy, both of which trigger her desire.
Also, in regards to pre-selection, recall that most chick shows and movies revolve around two or more chicks competing for the affections of one man. Dynasty (1980s prime time soap) was a famous example; Sex and The City had a plot revolving around the ugly SJP stealing Mr. Big from his younger, hotter wife;the movie Death Becomes Her was driven by a plot where a nerdy loser (Bruce Willis), by dint of his profession (plastic surgeon) and money, becomes the lifelong MacGuffin of both Meryl Streep and Goldie Hawn. Many teen movies have the mean girls v. nice girls motif, where partial victory comes when nice girl eventually gets stud over mean girl.
Women see a man with a woman, and it triggers an instinct to climb that totem pole (heh). But the man may as well be a new dress, a beauty pageant first place trophy, or a deluxe apartment in NYC—he is merely objectified by her.
For all feminazis complaints about men “objectifying” women, it is women who do it overwhelmingly more. I mean dildos, hello—a perfect example of objectifying men.
That’s a characteristic of the left: whatever they negatively accuse the anti-left of being or doing, it’s really they who are guilty of it–projection.
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Rape is my wing man
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Heh, heh… new put-down line for shutting up feminists who bring up men treating women as “objects”:
“When fleshlights outsell dildos, you’ll have a point.”
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fleshlight
Okay, I had to google that one.
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Good for you 😉
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Prince Albert of Monaco got an awesome piercing.
Try “prince albert piercing” on google images.
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Wasn’t this a Seinfeld episode? George with the picture of a model as his ex.
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It was the subject of two Seinfeld episodes. One is the one you mention, and the other was a very early one where George wore a wedding ring to a party. To find the best scene, Google the phrase: George needs a Superfit Ring.
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http://y4ser.wordpress.com/2012/10/08/konkurens-mellan-kvinnor/
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Damn, wrong link above. Should have been this:
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Like all niggers (except those who identify openly as anti-leftist), Rock is allowed to speak uncomfortable truths about women and feel no repercussions. Hell, the SWPLs bitches watching it probably laughed hard and didn’t think anything of it.
I met a man once who was a former Republican fundraiser, and he talked about a bipartisan dinner he’ gone to with other mover and shakers in honor of MLK day in the mid 2000s).
He was shocked at how the leftist powerbrokers openly called blacks niggers and made racist jokes, right in front of some reporters (who were invited, and all convos off the record).
But because the bastards were on the “correct” side of politics, the reporters chuckled along.
Makes me want to be a criminal defense attorney. I’d be able to scream “nigger” all day and never have much of a problem
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At one time, I worked with a White Personal Injury Lawyer who continues to make a fortune with certain cases before largely-black juries in an urban city close by.
What he does: closing arguments before these black juries he suddenly invokes “Martin Luther King” in some capacity before the usually white Insurance Defense opposition.
Somehow my friend works “MLK” into the fender-bender.
You might think certain connections are way too tangential. Not so! It all depends on your audience.
He wins 90% of his cases this way.
Moral of the story: Stop trying to save the world – know your audience and work them nigga!
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Much like how Rosa Parks always seems to find her way into debates over everything from abortion to marijuana.
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Of course, Hitler still leads the pack by several furlongs.
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whorefinder
Like all niggers (except those who identify openly as anti-leftist), Rock is allowed to speak uncomfortable truths about women and feel no repercussions.
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Your observation is accurate, but the logic behind the dynamic causing it is incomplete.
Black guys get a pass discussing sex because we are still in the “jungle”, the “prison”, Vietnam, what ever you want to call it… We don’t have the luxury of all the academic theories and other over thinking NONSENSE (much of it demonstrated on this blog) you white, straight out of West Point, 2nd lieutenant mother fuckers get to engage in.
You and your Geneva Conventions can kiss my ass. Black people should be flying planes into buildings. But we’re not.
So sit down and shut up about black people TALKIN bout their sexual frustrations.
Consider yourself lucky thats all we do;
for now.
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An ominous ring to that, thwack old man…
Is the hour drawing nigh where my fleet of vans filled with basketballs should embark upon their missions through the urban centers and ready the drop of their payloads?
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You mean you’d be flying planes into buildings if any of you were smart enough to actually fly a commercial airliner.
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whorefinder
Like all niggers (except those who identify openly as anti-leftist), Rock is allowed to speak uncomfortable truths about women and feel no repercussions.
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Your observation is accurate, but the logic behind the dynamic causing it is incomplete.
Black guys get a pass discussing sex because we are still in the “jungle”, the “prison”, Vietnam, what ever you want to call it… We don’t have the luxury of all the academic theories and other over thinking NONSENSE (much of it demonstrated on this blog) you white, straight out of West Point, 2nd lieutenant mother fuckers get to engage in.
You and your Geneva Conventions can kiss my ass. Black people should be flying planes into buildings. But we’re not.
So sit down and shut up about black people TALKIN bout their sexual frustrations.
Consider yourself lucky thats all we do;
for now.
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lol monkey.
Black guys get a pass discussing sex because we are still in the “jungle”, the “prison”, Vietnam, what ever you want to call it…
—No, it’s because SWPLs believe you are all Magical Oppressed Negroes. Also, most of them are cowards, and fear your aping out—as your constant violence demonstrates.
We don’t have the luxury of all the academic theories and other over thinking NONSENSE
—lol. You’ve got plenty of back-asswards theories from academic jigaboos and leftards explaining away each and every bad act by you as “from racism.”
But thank you for backing up the fact that black people hate intellectual thought.
You and your Geneva Conventions can kiss my ass.
—-Nigger, please. If it weren’t for those fucked up SWPL geneva conventions, your monkey ass would be swinging from a tree by now. You should thank yo’ white massas for being so goddamn stupid as to give sub-humans like you rights.
Black people should be flying planes into buildings. But we’re not.
—Because you’re not smart enough to learn. And, unlike terrorists, you don’t have causes, you’re just silly, dirt-eating apes.
So sit down and shut up about black people
—You mad, nigger? lol. Come and make me, dum dum.
TALKIN bout their sexual frustrations.
—Boy, rock ain’t talking about black frustrations; he’s talking about how women hate each other. It’s gender, not race in the video.
Consider yourself lucky thats all we do;
—Oh, it’s not all you do. See Detroit, Newark, South Side of Chicago, Camden,, Baltimore, East St. Louis….you just ruin everything. See: our president.
Back to the ghetto, boy!
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“And, unlike terrorists, you don’t have causes,”
Just a small correction. They don’t have causes either. What they have are perceived injustices and grievances with the West. I wouldn’t elevate their screwed up mentality to causes.
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Yes and no. While extreme Islam’s fantasies–a never-ending centralized state of extreme totalitarian power, based on Islamic law—aren’t really accomplished by attacking the US, the point is to rile up locals who will see them giving a black eye to an overwhelmingly powerful foe.
However, their arguments are based on extreme indoctrination of Islamic texts—i.e.reading and thought Blacks, however, merely act from day-to-day, with no long term planning other than “I gotta get me some.”
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Blacks, however, merely act from day-to-day, with no long term planning other than “I gotta get me some.”
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So is this why white people are afraid of Islam?
Are you afaid if we convert we will no longer be distracted by gold chains, drumbeats and pussy? And will instead focus on YOU as the source of all problems?
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Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? – Jeremiah 13:23
For the record:
No one is afraid of righteous men who take care of their own and leave others alone.
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Thwack, all kidding aside, we don’t want to be converted to anything. This is a Christian nation began by devout Christians who escaped tyranny for a new life of religious freedom. Therefore, we have a right to worship as we choose without sharia law taking over our institutions. Islam can’t live with other religions. It must replace all other religions to justify itself as the ONE true faith. Muslims have a duty to convert all the inhabitants of Earth either though the sword, or silently though marriage or sharia, and they have been doing it since the 7th century. It’s called Jihad. That’s how we have almost 1.5 billion Muslims on earth in such a short span. Shorter span than even Christianity’s existence.
As usual, Eliot gives you an irrelevant answer to justify his nonsense.
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For the record, let’s clear it up so you cease spinning it. As long as they are NOT J, then you subscribe to:
“No one is afraid of righteous men who take care of their own and leave others alone.”
But J must convert to Christianity, right? You said it yourself.
Why? Cuz they are the cherry on the top. Everyone wants them to convert to their religion to validate them as the ONE true faith. As long as the J don’t convert, all other religions are suspect. Why? Because J-daism is the oldest organized religion on earth. It is the one that started it all. While everyone else was still sacrificing their kids to idols and throwing people into the pits of fire and to the lions, the J were preaching morality and the 10 Commandments. It’s how the wild Germanic tribes of Europe became Christians, and it’s how the wild Arabian tribes of Arabia became Muslims.
What has that caused? Extreme jealousy from fanatics, who over 2,000 tried to convert the J to their religion in order to validate it as the ONE true faith, cuz as long as J-daism exits they feel diminished. Not one of the crazies (and that includes you, J.M., and others) stops to think that the J already have a covenant with God, even before your people knew of HIS existence, so why on earth would they have/need to convert? They already have an agreement with Him, so you need to go after those that don’t.
Right now, most of Europe is turning back to paganism, why not teach them some good old-fashioned Christian values, than worry about the J not accepting Christ? Shouldn’t you worry about your own people turning pagan and atheist and taking on Nazzzi and Marxist values? The irrationality of the fanatics is unbelievable.
Bottom line, no one believes a hypocrite like you. You don’t want to leave anyone alone. You, like fanatic Muslims and fanatic Hisler worshipers, are all cut from the same cloth. I know your kind.
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This was your reply to an (in your own words) irrelevant post?
LLOOZOZOZOZOZLZLZLZLZLZL
Each day you become an even greater parody of yourself… no mean feat.
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But J must convert to Christianity, right? You said it yourself.
I never said anyone must convert to anything.
Indeed, I’ve often quoted Joshua’s “worship whatever gods you deem fit” dismissal of his stiff-necked neighbors, as well as the NT’s “knock the dust from your sandals as you leave the town” precept on those uninterested in Christ.
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I know my replies are PAINFUL. They’re meant to be. 🙂
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Painful, the way tedium is painful to those of refined sensibility.
Painful, the way droning inanity is painful to lovers of economic clarity of thought.
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Excuse me, you’re not a lover of clarity of thought. You’re an obsessed fraud who’s too preoccupied by the smallest of nations. That by itself proves the state of your psyche.
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well night you always have comments on muslims but never went to a muslim country or know any whats up with that
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that and bringing up hitler 60 times a day
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I know Muslims, you haven’t been reading all my comments. I don’t dislike Muslims, just the Islamists who want to wage Jihad on the West. As long as they mind their own business, God bless them. Problem is, they don’t mind their own business, as they seem to think we’re their business. If you have proof to the contrary, bring it forth. Otherwise, hold your peace because we don’t need more anti-America propaganda here. There is plenty here already.
Hisler is very important to bring up, even 100 times a day, so long as we have readers here who think he was the greatest thing since French toast and Danish cheese, and the h0locaust was a country club for special needs.
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MSN recognizes on Don’t trust that.. “take something that’s available, who want’s that, take something from someone… VALUE!” maybe the chateau moonlights at ABC
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I’ve been reading my old Archie comics from the 80s-mid 90s, before they went Liberal and there are occasional game tips.
For example Cheryl Blossom is sexy and forward. A self proclaimed ‘man-killer’. The entire male cast likes her.
Who does she love? A dweeb who gives her affection but little attention. Since he’s the only guy who doesn’t chase her she loves him.
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I think it was H.L Mencken who said that a misogamist was any man who hated women as much as they hate each other. There is truth to this statement.
Men, particularly young men, tend to have lots of friend. Women tend to have 1 or 2 good friends, and they often back-stab even these close friends. Go to a restaurant or the beach (if you live in LA or FL). You will notice lots of women out in public by themselves. Guys are usually with friends in such milieus.
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Practical guide question for those who are considering getting hitch:
We know that we should never ask women of their sexual history because it will make us appear an insecure beta but we also say that we should know whether a woman is marriage material by assessing the number of her sexual relations. How can we know then that a woman is worth being committed to without being nosy?
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How can we know then that a woman is worth being committed to without being nosy?
The one and only purpose of marriage is the creation, birthing, nurturing, raising, and teaching of CHILDREN.
The one and only reason to marry a chick is to spend the rest of your life making and raising kids with her.
And vice versa: Marry her if and only if she wants nothing but to make & raise children with you for the rest of her life.
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Get them young, higher chance of them being virgins. Religiosity also raises the bar. Become religious yourself.
Or just hire a PD and look at it as an investment.
Obviosly game will help imensly in not becoming a loser. Have her learn girl-game.
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look through the archives for ‘slut tell’ articles, there are several.
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All true. Chicks who won’t give me a passing glance if I’m walking down the street alone will stare long and hard if I’m with a girl and if she’s somewhat hot the stare lasts even longer. Women are shameless. The “aloof” thing I don’t buy since I can be single/alone and aloof and get zero interest, but the preselection thing is key. One lady friend said to me once: “guys with chicks are chick MAGNETS.”
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“Chicks who won’t give me a passing glance if I’m walking down the street alone will stare long and hard if I’m with a girl and if she’s somewhat hot the stare lasts even longer. Women are shameless.”
Not necessarily. Sometimes, women stare at men with other females because they are curious about how other females are being treated. They like to compare it with their relationship. Women are fiercely competitive with other women on many levels. Jealous too.
Another thing, if you look somewhat attractive, chicks feel more comfortable looking at you if you’re taken (which is assumed if you’re with a girl), as they don’t worry about you approaching them if they made eye contact with you. And if the girl with you is also pretty and you both make a nice couple, people like to stare at good-looking couples, or people in love. It doesn’t necessarily mean that the woman starring is devising plots to take you way from the chick you’re with.
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[…] Really, if feminists were smart (asking a lot, I know), they’d realize their worst enemies aren’t laser-guided ego-targeting truth bombers like yours truly, but other women who will claw, scratch and passive-aggressively sabotage their way over the messed tresses of their sexual market Source: Chateau Heartiste […]
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This very concept first came to my attention when discussing, of all things, a restauarant with a young woman I knew almost 30 years ago. She was going on and on about how she would not go to such-and-such restaurant because it was not jam-packed with people. Maybe I read too much into her comments and it was nothing more than the typical female herd mentality, but I definitely picked up a vibe that she judged men the same way. Unattached = not worth giving the time of day too.
Oh, and I think she secretly had the hots for a buddy of mine. I heard her describing him to one of her friends as “absolutely vulgar.”
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A sort of related phenomenon: I tend to find women who weren’t interested in my advances or innuendos when they were single become into me once they have a boyfriend. Not really sure what to make of it.
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OT
Show about low-class whites? Full steam ahead! Show about low-class blacks? Pulled. wtsp.com/news/entertain… 9 hours ago
Shoot… they’re cancelling Cops?
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This would make sense because a woman has shown the other woman that this guy is totally worth taking. Conversely, a woman is less likely to snatch an obviously single guy because if he were so great he would have already been caught.
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The problem is if the woman were so great, she would already be attached and stay that way.
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Taken men are better.
[Heartiste: The high divorce rate would suggest otherwise.]
That’s why they are taken.
[Ted Bundy had a girlfriend.]
The best guys Ive dated were married at the time.
[Marriage tends to calm and reassure men and thus make them more attractive to women. This calming effect is solely due to marriage removing the social pressure from men to find a mate.]
Advantages of taken men: They are used to women, understanding of our flaws, commitment minded and paradoxically easier to attain (because they can’t spend as much time trying to date different women).
[Wouldn’t the hassle of navigating a potentially irate wife or girlfriend be worse than the uncertainty of dating a single man with options?]
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“[Wouldn’t the hassle of navigating a potentially irate wife or girlfriend be worse than the uncertainty of dating a single man with options?]
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No, actually. It’s easy to be more desirable than some nagging woman that complains about not enough money (no matter how much there is) and not enough help doing housework. As long as the man has either a) no children b) adult children, married men are actually easy to steal. I’ve done it twice. Was cake both times.
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That’s because you’re single. When I was single, married men were more appealing. Once I got married, I found single men more appealing.
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well, I see married men as off limits. Must be my religious upbringing that adultery is wrong and that stealing is wrong too. I wouldn’t want that to happen to me, so I don’t want to do it to someone else. But as with everything, I have high standards so I’m not the norm.
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“… well, I see married men as off limits. Must be my religious upbringing that adultery is wrong and that stealing is wrong too. I wouldn’t want that to happen to me, so I don’t want to do it to someone else. But as with everything, I have high standards so I’m not the norm….”
I did not have a religious upbringing ( just had very good parents ) but I agree with every single word you said,
I also have high standards and this makes me feel like an alien as few people are like that.
Almost everyone I know male or female has told me they have been unfaithful or have slept with married people. (or have been caught and I heard about it )
Surveys say it is less than two thirds of people who have affairs, but I say it is more like eighty or even ninety percent as people lie even in anonymous surveys and my own experience has shown me MOST people are unfaithful.
Most girls I have dated have told me they either had been unfaithful in the past or had slept with married men or with their boss.
I don’t like Islam but I almost agree with how they treat cheating wives , I said almost.
Stoning is a bit harsh but I understand the sentiment behind it if I can put it this way.
when the woman you love cheats on you, it makes you feel like shit.
it is humiliating, degrading, and very depressing.
and the fact that in western society there is nothing you can do about it makes you feel even smaller,
your cheating woman may as well cut off your balls it would not be much worse
and this sick society that defends and encourages her slutty behavior and punishes you for trying to defend your honor is only making you feel even smaller
they could cut off our balls and make us wear a dog muzzle it would not feel much worse to be a man in western society
yes stoning cheating wives or husbands is too harsh but I completely understand the sentiment behind it
most humans are filth and I am diamond in a pile of filth
Am I having a bad day? try a bad month
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Chris Rock’s got the right idea about this
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but yea chicks keep calling and coming to door
woke up to knock on door this morning i go to door
i tell chick i just relized i’m only in my underwear
she says thats ok
he he he
i close door and put some pants on
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another one called now lolzzz
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missed call from last night
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the online chicks from three months ago are still calling even after my chick told em to stop
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so if you want a line that works good tell chicks you have a wife you will be going back to oversees now that is chick crack
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today kind of monumental my chicks first day without any drugs mission somewhat accomplished i guess my mom was right i can do anything i put my mind too
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CH, are you OK with Mark Zuckerberg’s decision that the new Facebook Search will only return “age appropriate” results when you ask to see a list of single women in your area?
Is the manosphere going to take this lying down?
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So what’s a bad thing in this mangina’s eyes?
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Another example:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2263518/I-left-love-life-I-thought-I-better-Now-Im-childless-42.html
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I call bullshit… by the end of the week, that broad will have 200 marriage proposals.
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LOL
Fellas, this is what happens when you allow a woman to be president of your company; they hate being president. They hate it so much they will leave you to go back to the mailroom and lick envelopes.
When the King is happy, everybody is happy.
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I call BS on you. She’s a 40 year old woman who just admitted that she
1. Walks away from good men
2. Chases bad men to the end of the earth
3. Doesn’t have the decency to let things die
Even without the issue of her age (post-Wall), no sensible and *moneyed* man is going to go after her. Btw, the Mail just posted a story about a woman who admitted to drugging and tying a plastic bag over her husband’s head as a “joke”, because she was “bored and dissatisfied” with the marriage. That woman is receiving alimony.
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Nobody said nuthin’ about proposals from “sensible” or “moneyed” men. (DUH!)
But believe me, there’s an army out there that would pitch woo even to her… in the grand scheme of things, she’s still got a lot of miles left on her for a 40 year old broad… and I’ve seen far worse still land mates.
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There are shitloads of hugo shysters out there. And compared to his wife, that dailymail whore almost seems like a catch.
There are plenty of sensible and moneyed but bluepilled betas. And they will keep eating shit and dumpster diving until the world ends.
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I moved into a rented flat a few miles away in Hornchurch, Essex, and embraced single life with a vengeance. By now I was an editor on a national magazine. Life was one long round of premieres and dinner or drinks parties.
God I love being able to read between the lines. I don’t even wanna know what that woman’s notch count ended up at. All I have to say is you reap what you sew
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I’d bet that if she had as many pricks sticking out of her as she’s had in her, she’d be mistaken for a porcupine.
Still, mark my words… the marriage proposals will come pouring in. 😦
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The God of Biomechanics is a cruel tutor.
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Indeed… he gives the test first, then the lesson.
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lol
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Look at the top-rated comments on that article, attacking that woman for being honest about her mistake and her feelings, telling her that she’s “liberated” and should feel awesome.
Disgusting. There wasn’t one thing I was doing at 22 that wouldn’t have been far more enjoyable with a significant other, and at 27, I’d gladly swap the fear of being single for the stress of having a kid running around the house and another on the way. You gotta wonder… have people lost all ability for rationality, if they can’t accept that we aren’t biologically wired to live life alone?
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“Really, if feminists were smart (asking a lot, I know), they’d realize their worst enemies aren’t laser-guided ego-targeting truth bombers like yours truly, but other women who will claw, scratch and passive-aggressively sabotage their way over the messed tresses of their sexual market competitors.”
Don’t hold your breath.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/does-taylor-swift-hate-other-women
Conspiracy theory of the month: is Heartiste Taylor Swift?
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I had a heated argument with my Mom and Dad yesterday about women (Both being blue pill) about how to gain a woman’s attention and my dad tried telling me nature’s rules by telling me the story of 2 male sparrows fighting it our over the attention of a female sparrow and how men should be aggressive at pursuing women if they’re to be successful.
While it’s true, we have to be aggressive. But to the extent of keeping a girl interested, it simply doesn’t work.
My response was to give the red pill wisdom that given 2 guys fighting after a girl, if one simply held off and said “He’s all yours” That girl will start to question why the guy isn’t interested anymore and will start pursuing the man who is uninterested.
Women (Like Men) want the highest value offering we could find. It’s the reason why being aloof and unattainable works because it increases your value and makes you a challenge.
As far as the human species are concerned, its the women that are supposed to actively chase men.
All we can do as men is to increase our value whilst decrease our availability.
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A thought;
By reifying the concept of evil into a physical manifestation of “the Devil”, do you play upon human, in particular female, herd like social instincts to not belong to the wrong group when you accuse them of being on the side of the devil as opposed to just saying whatever it is you are chastising them for is immoral, or exploitative or parasitic? Hence why ad hominens can have such a hefty effect?
And perhaps the reason this works is because through our culture people have a lot of negative images, notions, beliefs that have been burned into their mind about “the devil group” and hence don’t want to associate themselves with them, (i.e. images of people laughing wickedly as they kill puppies.)
I know when I imagine satanic cults I bring up images in my mind of Arnold Schwarzenegger’s End of Days or the Devil’s Advocate where those men involved with the devil must submit themselves as cuckolds to him while the devil fucks their wives and daughters and hence that is the negative emotional stimuli (submitting to cuckoldry to those who defile your women) that belonging to that group attaches itself to and thus avers me from it.
Ergo, if one wishes to have the same persuasive effect that religion of old had, and now leftism/liberalism does, one should go about constructing these negative mental images about that which you wish people to shun, and then seeding them into the volk-consciousness so that they may then make anathema the belonging to of those groups.
Which is kind of exactly what “game” is doing with respect to feminism. Alpha/beta, mangina’s & manboobs.
The pen is mightier than the sword, and every time you write a lay-report, you’re slaying dragons.
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Perhaps the better term than volk-consciousness would be collective-consciousness.
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just wow:
Electrifyingly good!
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I don’t know how anyone could watch this whole thing
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I couldn’t make it past the haircut.
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You’ll never wor?
oops sorry, my bad.
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This was a day short…….. I have been telling this woman that is having “trouble” with her male best friends wife that she “wants” her BFF….. her is her reply….
“No matter how much I say this, Txxx is a good friend….I struggle with Cyyy since she means well and that I believe is hard for Tom. He would like me to be her good friend and I cannot seem to make it happen, we just have different personalities.”
The fact that she is so clueless about her own desires is interesting…..
I give the marriage 2 more years….
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The standard type of fare that feminists and people with an inability to engage in rational debate can’t handle… they would ignore it or get furious and try to change the subject in the face of hard evidence. Far too much hypocrisy going around..
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The one time I got one-itis was with a chick with whom I shared all my relatinship details with. She was hotter than my girlfriend at the time. Of course ultimatum time came around and I chose the mistress. She left me after a few months; the chase was over in her eyes. And of course I can go back to my original ex whenever I’m ready to settle down hehe
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I find that if you post photos of yourself with other girls, it doesn’t hurt your changes with girls you’re gaming.
But if done with an ex, it could be a turn off for a girl you’re gaming who could think you’re inaccessible.
I think the idea of accessibility is a component of the attraction of the taken man.
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I used to buy a bunch of flowers and a box of chocolates for new customers..
I noticed as I walked out of the shop the looks Id be getting from the women I passed.
The looks I was getting were decidedly flirty/approving from the ladies I passed.
This happened EVERY time I went in to get the flowers.
Women really are after men who are attached, bonus if they appear to bring gifts…
It was so obvious I considered trying to film it.
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I’ve lost count of the number of hollers I get from women … just for holding a bouquet on a streetcorner, waiting for the light to change.
It’s even a DHV for my wife. She tells all her friends about my flower-buying habit. I could buy her a hundred thousand dollar piece of jewelry and it would pale next to those damn four-dollar flowers.
You can definitely argue that buying flowers is beta, but it depends on the context. Treat it like buying a gallon of milk. Keep the commentary minimal to nonexistent, NEVER buy them when she asks, and immediately make a cocky comment about something unrelated after presenting. Then it’s alpha.
And for new girls, obviously no flowers for at least the first two months.
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chick got the wishbone of the first chicken we ate lol in bag and its labeled
on flowers i do get romantic
after she did 4 days at the clinic like she was supposed to i stopped in the town we usually stop in on way back and got her a rose and a cinnamon bun that are the best in the world put 4 candles on it and lit it in the truck sang the happy 4 day anniversary song he he he
i think i did say it before but one of the questions she asked me was if i was lieing about being married when she tried to interrogate me in my sleep
it was that big of a deal that i was married or not
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You really should pepper your screeds liberally with a few zlzololzzlzolz.
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I’m an older guy who link’s to CH through Sailer’s site.
I was at a friend’s restaurant on night having a few drinks and watching sports in the bar The local pro football and basketball teams were playing on the same Thursday night, and a few of us were watching both, switching back and forth between the games with the sound off, as it was Open Mic Night. All of a sudden, a twenty-something woman came up behind me and grabbed at the remote, saying, hey, Gray’s Anatomy is on.
I’m 48, but I’m a 6′, 290 lb. power lifter, and it’s the rare person of either sex who invades my personal space like this. I took the remote back and asked who she thought she was. She said she was a friend of Jill’s (the owner’s half-sister), a nice girl who’s a friend. She started giving me a hard time, and even though there were 5 of us guys watching the games, no one stepped up to defend our viewing rights. I finally just said sweetie, we’re watching the games and you can beat it. She stood there sputtering, and one of the manboobs who plays there and obviously had an interest in her came over to smooth things over. I went off on him, saying that the fact that this twit thinks it’s OK to try and browbeat someone old enough to be here father is a direct result of his pussy generation’s failure to take it’s crazy women in hand (I freely admit that by this time I was just being an asshole to them).
Of course, that set her off exponentially; “you have a girlfriend, blah blah, must be a fat, ugly girl, blah blah”. I laughed at her, and by then Jill had come over to drag her away. Jill told her that my girlfriend was much more attractive than either of them (they are both about a 6 on your scale) and I took out my phone to show her a photo of my girl (5’10”, 120 lb., 36B-22-34, high school and college swimmer). The words classy and elegant were used.
I was like a switch had been thrown! She proceeded to apologize, and the three of them returned to the table the moob sitting at. About 20 minutes later, while the he was playing his guitar and Jill was in the kitchen talking to her sister, the girl, Emily, came back over and sat next to me to chat. She was a far cry from the twat she had been earlier. We talked for a while, and she commented on how large my arms and shoulders were. She proceeded to start stroking my delts! The poor moob had finished his song and came over to see her running her hands all over my arm and shoulder. Jill then came out from the kitchen and saved me from further ministrations.
The payoff came when I was leaving. I was walking to my car, and the three of them came out after, as the moob was giving them a ride home. Emily came running over “to apologize again and say goodnight”. I leaned in to give her a kiss on the cheek, and I was a bit taken aback when she proceeded to inspect my bicuspids with her tongue! I decided to go a little further to see what would happen, so I grabbed each butt cheek and lifted her up to straddle my waist, lowering her a bit to end up crotch to crotch while playing tongue hockey. Then I dropped her, turned her around and told her to show Steve (the moob) a good time, slapping her on the ass and sending her away.
The best thing about this tale is that a few weeks later the girlfriend was with me at the restaurant, and Jill told her about her friend throwing herself at me and how I remained faithful. My girl was an All-Pro in the sack that night!
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Hey, all the good men are taken… so steal some bitch’s hot guy! (AWALT.)
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[…] Science: Women prefer taken men. […]
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“love to CHASE CHASE CHASE aloof men who aren’t readily available”
Same goes for recruiters and headhunters…they can smell beta from a mile away.
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I just don’t understand why people do that..like intentionally wan to cause harm and damage to other people’s lives. Here is a post I tell the situation I have got in. http://theroadtounknown.blogspot.com/2013/02/why-women-want-taken-men.html It’s just quite offencive against the gf when another women is so obviesly interested about your man..
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Because most women are sluts if not kept on a leash.
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