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Boring Women

January 18, 2013 by CH

A reader asks,

What advice would you give when one finds himself on a first date with a fuckable woman (7ish) who is incredibly boring? Boring in the sense she has little to say, and only responds passively to a variety of stimuli. I had two such dates three days apart and found myself starting to beta-ize myself (still somewhat new) to establish some connection and procure what I was after (finishing 1 for 2, though the 1 was not what dreams are made of). I know this is not the answer.

To be fair, I am not particularly funny, but I am a psychologist and skilled at opening (which can work for and against me as the frame is set).

Is she acting bored, or is she genuinely boring? The distinction is important. Exciting women can be brought to bored lows in the company of boring men. A woman who passively responds to stimuli could have in her possession such a wealth of experience with men that it takes a lot to get her invested in any one particular date. (This is a problem if you date sluts.) If that’s happening, the problem is fixed by challenging those women. You can spark a girl right up by teasing her, or by doing something unpredictable.

If the girl is actually a boring person, then two possibilities about her person come to mind: one, she’s not very bright (stupid girls don’t often have interesting things to say, nor are they adept at moving conversations along) or two, she’s introverted, and would have a lot to say if you know how to motivate her to open up.

Men typically repsond to boring (and bored) women by trying extra hard to perk them up. This is the beta male strategy, and it almost always fails, (at least on the timelines we’re interested in), because VALUE is lost when it looks like you have to work to entertain a girl. So we know what you have to avoid: you must avoid the impression that you’re trying to get her to liven up.

If the girl is boring because she’s stupid, go caveman. Dispense with the chit-chat and grab her for the bumpngrind. Dumb girls respond well to primitive courtship displays.

If the girl is boring because she’s shy, you say to her that you know what it’s like, but you have hope for her because you’ve learned from experience that shy girls usually have a lot of interesting things to say once they feel comfortable enough to share it. Tell her to take her time blossoming like a flower, because once the floodgates open you don’t want to drown in it all at once. You refer the slow pour.

If the girl is bored because you’re too beta for her, well… read the archives. Time to amp up the teasing, cocky/funny, mild insults, venue bouncing, agreement and amplification, etc etc. Draw situational women into your orbit to build jealousy plot lines. Flirt with the waitress in full view of your date.

If the girl is boring because she has nothing to say (regardless of her level of smarts), you need to improve your rapport game. Start by learning the “love test routine” and get this chick glowing with girly excitement!

Bonus pointer: Refrain from calling out a girl for being boring. This tactic hardly ever works when you’re already on a date with her. IF you do want to hit her with that, try to dress it up as a backhanded compliment, eg: “It’s so nice to be with a girl for once who is Ok with just sitting next to you quietly and not feeling like she has to say something amazing every five seconds.” That’ll get her hamster spinning furiously.

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  1. on January 18, 2013 at 11:44 am Tilikum

    Or Teppanyaki. That way, at least you have something to entertain you.

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  2. on January 18, 2013 at 11:44 am The Man Who Was . . .

    she’s not very bright (stupid girls don’t often have interesting things to say, nor are they adept at moving conversations along) or two, she’s introverted, and would have a lot to say if you know how to motivate her to open up.

    Some chicks are just boring. Lack of creativity is not the same thing as stupidity. I’ve dated girls who were plenty smart, but boring as hell. The same thing with introversion: it’s not the same things as lack of creativity. Some girls don’t have anything interesting to bring out.

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    • on January 19, 2013 at 12:02 am Willerby Tufaceous Farde

      I dated a girl like this. Cute, smart, not shy, interested – pursued me for a while – but just plain boring. Actually called herself “boring” on the first date. She was from Kansas, lived alone, had no hobbies, spent all her time studying and working, and had little to say about anything. I still wonder if I could somehow have salvaged the relationship, but I doubt it.

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  3. on January 18, 2013 at 11:51 am Arronski (@Arronski)

    If it’s because she’s shy/introverted, you can generally rest assured she is (assuming you possess a modicum of attractiveness) in her head and self-conscious about her shyness and worrying you’ll find her under-stimulating.

    – Get her drinking to open her up.
    – If you think she’s worth the effort then realize it’ll take some time for her to feel completely comfortable around you.
    – Don’t worry about – again, assuming you possess a modicum of attractiveness – coming across “beta” or whatever too much. You probably run more of a risk of over-qualification with such a girl.
    – Don’t be too afraid of being a little soft and vulnerable. Lead by example here. Being soft and vulnerable doesn’t have to be “beta” either. You’re being straightforward and honest and showing her it’s also OK for her to do it.

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    • on January 18, 2013 at 6:00 pm anonymous does not forgive

      What if she’s too young to drink?

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    • on January 18, 2013 at 8:42 pm Zombie Shane

      Get her drinking to open her up.

      Also caffeine makes people very talkative.

      A good technique can be to mix caffeine with alcohol – Rum and Coke, Irish Coffee, that sort of thing.

      If you’re at your place or at her place or have access to a friend’s bar, they’re really easy drinks to make – get some high-caffeine espresso, throw in some Kahlua, maybe some chocolate milk or chocolate icecream, some creme-de-menthe, and then some bourbon or vodka or whatever you have lying around.

      Or carry a flask [of something nice] in your coat pocket, take her to Starbucks, and when none of the Nanny State prudes are looking, mix it all up and get drunk and obnoxious right there in front of all the prim and proper SWPLs [who will secretly be jealous as hell of you, even though they are all trying to look down their noses at you].

      Also, along those lines, if you’re going to the movies, you can put Bacardi in your flask, purchase Cokes at the concession stand, and then mix her Rum and Cokes in the theater once the lights go down.

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      • on January 18, 2013 at 8:49 pm Zombie Shane

        And after all this boozing and caffeinating, you might go for some sex in public places…

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 12:08 am Gil

        LOL! Rum & cola – alcohol and caffeine: a win-win drink! 😛

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      • on January 20, 2013 at 11:03 pm Zombie Shane

        Way back in 1944, the Andrews Sisters had a #1 Hit, called (Drinking) Rum and Coca Cola.

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      • on January 20, 2013 at 11:04 pm Zombie Shane

        Oops – my bad – looks like it was 1945.

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  4. on January 18, 2013 at 11:55 am Alaska Mark

    Love test routine is great. Any other pop psychology quizzes commenters can point to?

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  5. on January 18, 2013 at 11:59 am Case

    How do i deal with the ” Do you love me? ” test during sex?

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    • on January 18, 2013 at 12:12 pm Renton

      Are you shitting me? Go reread the archives. Focus on I and XIV https://heartiste.wordpress.com/the-sixteen-commandments-of-poon/

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    • on January 18, 2013 at 12:29 pm Anonymous

      “I know.” – Han Solo

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      • on January 18, 2013 at 1:54 pm Anonymous

        (Cue Chewbacca sounding unhappy in the background.)

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      • on January 18, 2013 at 2:11 pm yaser

        *laughing*

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 12:02 pm Matthew King (King A)

        “Do you love me?”

        “I know.”

        ?

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    • on January 18, 2013 at 2:55 pm MarcoP

      “It’s complicated.”

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    • on January 18, 2013 at 3:09 pm Lara

      “Yes, I’m crazy about you.”

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      • on January 18, 2013 at 3:49 pm Greg Eliot

        Ah, yes… what would the chateau be without a woman’s touch?

        llllozozozozozlzlzlzlzlzozozozozllllll

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    • on January 18, 2013 at 3:33 pm don julian

      “i’m gonna have to adopt you as my kid sister”

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      • on January 20, 2013 at 10:37 am itsme

        very incesty. i love it.

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    • on January 18, 2013 at 4:54 pm PetiteOlive

      “sure”

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    • on January 18, 2013 at 5:41 pm DJ

      That’s what I’m doing! 😛

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    • on January 18, 2013 at 5:54 pm whorefinder

      1)”RAPE!”
      —Whorefinder.

      2) Han Solo’s answer (already quoted)

      3) “Your sister’s pussy tastes better.”

      4) “the other girl’s pussy is tighter.”

      5) “Your mom says it better.”

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    • on January 18, 2013 at 6:30 pm anotheronetakesthepill

      I’ve used the: “I love you this much” and spaced my hands a tiny little bit in a teaseful way. She played the “angry card”. And I kept teasing: It might grow. Depends on you

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 2:34 pm Matthew King (King A)

        What kind of pussy artistry are you exhibiting when you answer a mid-coital inquiry with words rather than your dick? Apparently you’ve allowed her mind to wander into irrelevant subjects like love.

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      • on January 22, 2013 at 2:12 pm anotheronetakesthepill

        Never said it was mid-coital

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    • on January 19, 2013 at 10:01 am taterearl

      “Shut up baby, I know it.”

      -Bender, Futurama

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    • on January 19, 2013 at 12:22 pm itsme

      a girl who asks ‘do you love me’ while you’re banging her has serious issues. it’s a red flag.

      but if you’re into crazy chicks, you can say ‘of course i love this’, then smack her ass hard.

      keep her away from sharp objects.

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    • on January 19, 2013 at 12:23 pm Matthew King (King A)

      How do I deal with the ” Do you love me? ” test during sex?

      How about … “Can words ever capture the fickle notions of the heart?” (or similar improvised doggerel)

      Or … “Would you like to swing on a star? Carry moonbeams home in a jar?”

      Or … “That reminds me, I forgot to put in a new air filter when I was changing my oil.”

      Or … “I love my dog.” (No smirk, but eye twinkle)

      Frame everything always.

      Did you really think she wants an answer, just because she asked a question? Worse, do you imagine she can accept any answer prompted by her own questions in weighty matters such as these? It is a test. What she is actually asking is, “Will I have to wear the pants in this burgeoning relationship?” Chumps answer “Yes” or “No” to a woman’s yes-or-no questions. You are the embodiment of ultimatum to her. Everything else is alien to a true relationship.

      Answer the questions you ask yourself in your own good time, according to your schedule, and in terms which please you. Especially during the contrived “momentousness” of sex: giving in to her manipulation of the extreme sensations of the act is giving her power to define the method and manner all important questions will be settled in the relationship. Even if for some warped reason that sounds good to you, it will decidedly sound awful to her, and she will begin her retreat.

      Women think they want certainty, but they actually want constant flux. Because that is adventurous. Because that is closer to the relativism of her nature. The trick to long-term success is to provide certainty (a manly desire) while keeping her hamster guessing, Sweet mercy, what does he have in store for me now?

      Matt

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 10:56 pm Jason

        +1

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      • on January 20, 2013 at 12:42 pm NiteLily

        LOL! That’s a first! Jason agreeing with King.
        That’s actually nice. Well, at least until the next round.

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    • on January 20, 2013 at 2:59 pm Lem@lem.com

      “”Do you love me?” test during sex?”

      Yes, babe, [grunt] I’m well into you!

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  6. on January 18, 2013 at 12:10 pm Kate

    Haha! That *was* fun. 🙂

    – short (I am in a hurry here!)
    – 10 and 10 (it seems logical since I can’t make up my mind quickly)
    – let in (I have a perfect right to see him, afterall)
    – bed (windowsill? windowsills are for grandmas)
    – sleeping (he should be tired!)
    – scenic (I’m in no hurry now)

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    • on January 19, 2013 at 12:29 pm Matthew King (King A)

      Question 7:

      Do you keep the flowers in a vase and let them slowly wilt in front of your eyes, or do you press the pedals freshly into a scrapbook to preserve them at their bloom?

      Question 8:

      Anal?

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 2:28 pm Kate

        You’re not playing right.

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 2:31 pm Matthew King (King A)

        Whoopsy, I meant:

        Question 412:

        Anal?

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 2:36 pm Matthew King (King A)

        Now why would that get moderated? La moderation è mobile.

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 3:37 pm Kate

        You’re in moderation? HAHAHAHA! Now I can taunt you mercilessly 🙂 Who would *you* like to be trapped in a jeep with in the desert? I wonder what Heart’s Ease would look like a little sweaty and dirty… 🙂

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 3:48 pm Matthew King (King A)

        Who would *you* like to be trapped in a jeep with in the desert?

        A dromedary.

        Just wait till my previous reply posts. It will blow some serious wind up your seafaring capris. Shock your panties overboard.

        Now I see why it’s stuck in moderation. It’s too real too soon.

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 3:52 pm obsessivecakedisorder

        Lol. Just lol.

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  7. on January 18, 2013 at 12:12 pm routebackwards

    Women who seem shy, prescribe them with a dose of good discussion. I disagree that it’s completely beta if you talk too much in this respect. If you can ramble enough that it seems like you’re doing it because this is how you normally are and you’re simply reciting your thoughts, which are mostly interesting, it forces her to invest, and it makes her uncomfortable to the point of comfort. I think, it’s also a good principle to ask a lot of questions that are open ended. Avoid all ‘yes’ or ‘no’ questions, and you’re golden.

    I’ve done this on numerous “shy/boring girl” dates. Always gotten results.

    It becomes beta when you jester her as a comedic act.

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    • on January 18, 2013 at 12:22 pm taterearl

      I have too…in fact most of the time when you first meet a gal she isn’t going to simply open up anyway until you get the rapport going. You are supposed to be the leader of the conversation.

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  8. on January 18, 2013 at 12:33 pm Abelard Lindsey

    Its funny!Just before I came to this blog I was thinking about just how boring the vast majority of women are and about how the whole dating/pick-up scene as a whole is mostly a giant bore.

    Then I see the latest post is about boring women (which is the vast majority of them).

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    • on January 19, 2013 at 12:37 pm Matthew King (King A)

      “I am never bored anywhere. Being bored is an insult to oneself.” — Julian Renard

      I have never met a boring girl. I have encountered closed-off women who are waiting to be pricked to life (and thereby provide for my amusement).

      “Boring” is a consolation judgment to explain the seeming imbalance of beautiful women. If she is so gorgeous, she can’t also be a barrel of yuks like jolly Belinda Chubbster over there. It is also a modern reaction to the spoiled, fairy expectation of constant external stimulation.

      We already know that women aren’t men, and in comparison they can seem vacuous. But her charmlessness is a reflection of your own. She is a bud waiting to flower in your sunlight, champ.

      Matt

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  9. on January 18, 2013 at 12:33 pm ng85

    Most girls have shit conversational skills because they usually just try and coast on their looks or sexuality – The lights are on but no one’s home. They usually lack personalities and therefore any real interests or experiences they can speak about. So you then get short, uninteresting answers. If you try and keep the conversation going with questions to get them to open up then it ends up feeling like a job interview or interrogation.

    As someone suggested, keep the booze flowing. I’m pretty shy, myself, but I loosen up after a few drinks. I’ve also learned that if there are any awkward pauses to just shut up and wait for her to speak up. First, it’s sort of alpha to act aloof for those couple of seconds. Also, women can’t exist in silence or feel like they’re being ignored, so they’ll speak up and keep the conversation going. Keep doing this and perhaps they’ll even start to lead the conversation.

    Still, I prefer girls approaching me, as it shows genuine interest. In these cases I can usually sit back and give short answers while they do the heavy lifting. I have to say, I’ve sometimes done more mental work on dates than I did on my SATs.

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    • on January 19, 2013 at 12:36 am obsessivecakedisorder

      One of the benefits of growing up fat, ugly, intelligent and friendless: I read a lot, socialized with adults, and had to be something other than a vapid, pretty cheerleader.

      I have a better adult life for it.

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 12:45 pm Matthew King (King A)

        But the lonely ugly fat girl is still in there, isn’t she? Sometimes deep down. Sometimes close to the surface. Just WAITING to sabotage you.

        C’mere, tell me all about it.

        She wears high heels,
        I wear sneakers.
        She’s cheer captain
        And I’m on the bleachers…

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 2:47 pm obsessivecakedisorder

        I don’t think we ever completely outgrow out childhood, good or bad. I’m a better person for what I went through. I pursue friendships, and I like me so I’m good company for me. I’m not lonely even when I am alone. I’m outgoing, so I’ll start up a conversation with almost anyone, and I never leave a, “How are you today?” from someone without an answer. It’s almost always accompanied by a return query. The polite exchange with the young man at the store yesterday resulted in him offering to carry out some heavy equipment and standing outside talking to me for almost 10 minutes. I wonder if I was his opening for the day… He was attractive, too 😉

        Ugly, no, I’m not ugly anymore. Looking back on childhood photos, I wasn’t then either, but perception is reality. I was just an average looking kid. I’m no beauty queen, but I’m on the good side of the middle. Good teeth, clear skin, pleasant bone structure and I can handle a makeup brush well. I had a photo of myself as my avatar for a while; ask Greg, he noticed enough to mention it.

        Fat, no I’m not fat. I do have a few extra on me, but LC is a good thing. Whether I’m fat now or not is just a matter of diet and exercise, not childhood. I am short, so I have to be careful because a pound looks like a whole lot more on a short girl. You’d probably never refer to me as a ‘warpig’ unless you were just doing it to try to make me feel bad.

        People who know me now and knew me when I was a kid will tell you I’m about as close to 180 from there as you can get, and that’s fine with me. I was not a happy child, but I had a smart mind and a rich internal life to save me from cutting or becoming a slut or killing myself. I suppose if I let myself drown in decades-old sorrows, it could sabotage me, but I have too much to do to allow that to happen. I control my own narrative, and I’m the only adult I know who hasn’t been or isn’t on some mood altering drug (xanax, zoloft, etc. ITIOFD, my doctor did give me 10 xanax the first time I had to fly. I took one, didn’t like it, flushed the rest.) I’m not ashamed of my childhood because I was not in control of it but I do use what I learned to be a better person. today.

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 3:29 pm Kate

        Good for you! 🙂 Just wait till you have children. It will give you so much pleasure to raise them in a better way and see them flourish.

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 3:32 pm obsessivecakedisorder

        I’m much older than you obviously think I am! 😀

        I still feel young, though. My child is grown.

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 3:40 pm Kate

        Oops! That’s a compliment that never goes amiss though, right? 🙂

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 3:35 pm Matthew King (King A)

        What’s with the cockblock? I’m doing my thing here.

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 3:42 pm Kate

        Oh, excuse me. As you were. No, forget that! I want obsessivecakedisorder for myself! She looks like a good baker! 🙂

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 3:57 pm obsessivecakedisorder

        Be a good alpha and work through it. Parry and spar, my friend, parry and SPAR.

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 4:01 pm Matthew King (King A)

        Let’s admit right now we’re more than friends. I feel the kismet glowing from my screen like deadly gamma radiation. Is that a nuclear meltdown or is it just YOU?

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 4:05 pm Kate

        Are you referring to me or the pixie-cute cake baker?

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 4:42 pm Kate

        Oh, right. Well, in my defense, this comment did come up under my notifications. Anyway, time to get dressed for my date. Night all 🙂

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 6:05 pm Matthew King (King A)

        Question 9:

        What length are the heels you are wearing tonight?

        Question 10

        What color skirt?

        Question 11

        Anal?

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 10:45 pm Kate

        So you can rest easy that I have arrived home unmolested, the answers are three inches and no skirt: sultry sweater dress #5. On a side note, Les Miserables was fantastic. During all the revolutionary scenes, I thought of the men here and could envision them acting with such honor and sacrifice.

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      • on January 20, 2013 at 1:11 pm Matthew King (King A)

        I don’t like this guy. Les Jizzérables? Home by 10:30? Left you unsodomized? Four inches would have gotten you his five-and-a-half.

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      • on January 20, 2013 at 1:23 pm Kate

        I do not parlance with drunks. Let me know when you’re sober.

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      • on January 20, 2013 at 1:30 pm Matthew King (King A)

        I’m as sober as I get right now.

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      • on January 20, 2013 at 1:40 pm Kate

        Well, I like him, but I doubt we will go out again. Bachelor #2 was too intimidated to even get to meeting, I guess, and I sadly wasn’t able to initiate bikini-warfare with Bulldawg, so I guess its back to square zero. Probably for the best. Until I can appreciate someone nice, I shouldn’t be dating.

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      • on January 20, 2013 at 1:44 pm Matthew King (King A)

        Until I can appreciate someone nice, I shouldn’t be dating.

        “Nice” is the new n-word. HTH.

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 3:31 pm Matthew King (King A)

        Fat, no I’m not fat. I do have a few extra on me, but … I’m about as close to 180 … as you can get, and that’s fine with me.

        Pushing thirteen stone and you call that “a few extra”? Are you over six feet tall?

        I control my own narrative…Give it up. Give yourself over, my roly-poly sweetheart. I would never call you a warpig! I would call you my delicious little ham and cheese hot pocket.

        If perfect’s what you’re searching for, then just stay the same.

        Or if you’re old school:

        Matt

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 3:35 pm obsessivecakedisorder

        180 degrees, Matthew, not 180 pounds.

        Yes, I am old school. I remember when Def Leppard had all its arms!

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 3:35 pm retrophoebia

        Matt, I think she meant 180 degrees from where she was; or, turned around.

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 3:39 pm Matthew King (King A)

        But she has an admitted cake disorder. I stand by my original interpretation.

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 3:43 pm obsessivecakedisorder

        Please don’t assume that because I accept that who I was partially shaped who I am means I think I am perfect. Personal growth is a beautiful thing; were I perfect, I would need none. I push myself all the time, which is why I am a happy person. I love learning new things and implementing them in my life. This blog is just another classroom, albeit a fun and interesting one.

        Can I be a pastry instead? Maybe a creme chiboust filled eclair?

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 3:47 pm Kate

        “JACK
        You’re quite perfect, Miss Fairfax.

        GWENDOLEN
        Oh! I hope I am not that. It would leave no room for developments, and I intend to develop in many directions.”
        – The Importance of Being Earnest

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 3:53 pm Matthew King (King A)

        … were I perfect, I would need none.

        Please refer to my one-two Bruno-Billy combo punch. jabbity-jab UPPERCUT. It has never failed to deliver a knockout with the ladies, sometimes two- and three-at-a-time.

        I want to lose myself in your bounteous folds like a beanbag.

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 3:59 pm obsessivecakedisorder

        No touching!

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 4:03 pm Matthew King (King A)

        But you’re already touching me. My heartstrings that is.

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      • on January 20, 2013 at 11:23 am Greg Eliot

        A tug is as good as a touch. 😉

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  10. on January 18, 2013 at 12:37 pm Simon Grey

    “Refrain from calling out a girl for being boring.”

    Yeah, you can only really do this once you’ve established rapport, and only if you’re teasing her. Making this your opener is sure-fire failure. Calling her this in the middle of a word association game on the fourth date when you know she’s already smitten with you just makes her work a little harder to impress you.

    To make a broader point, the rightness or wrongness of an action, in regards to Game, usually depends on context. Calling a girl boring will work or fail depending on context and delivery. Giving a girl flowers will work or fail depending on context or delivery. Giving a girl a hand-drawn picture of a hand-turkey as a Thanksgiving Day present will work or fail depending on context or delivery. Asking whether a specific action or behavior works is somewhat short-sighted. It’s far better to ask whether a specific action or behavior works in a specific context.

    Calling out a woman for being boring will work in some contexts and fail in others. In the context described above, calling out a woman for being boring has a high probability of failure.

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    • on January 18, 2013 at 1:01 pm Who Me?

      Yeah context is everything. So much good advice, especially online, is interpreted as a one size fits all solution. It actually amazes me how few people can wrap their heads around subtlety and context.

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  11. on January 18, 2013 at 12:57 pm SL

    I’ve broken up with some hot chicks that (outside of the bedroom) just bored me to the point that I felt guilty for not enjoying their company outside of sex. (Yeah, I know — beta).
    But in hindsight there were age gaps of nine years or more, so maybe some women just need time to develop good conversational skills.
    But in today’s narcissistic climate I don’t see that happening any time soon.

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  12. on January 18, 2013 at 1:00 pm Newly Aloof

    You’re a psychologist? Hell, man, do the girls know this? If so, they’re probably scared as fuck to say anything. Plus, I’d gather you are not too exciting being a psychologist – just a guess. Ever been in a fight? Ever been skydiving? Ever been arrested? Ever been out of the country? Ever worked out in the gym? I’d say some of these may help with the conversation (that or bring up how awesome you think 50 Shades of Gray was).

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  13. on January 18, 2013 at 1:00 pm taterearl

    OT

    Te’oing. The latest dumb internet trend.

    http://www.dailydot.com/society/teoing-fake-girlfriend-photos-tumblr-meme/

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  14. on January 18, 2013 at 1:03 pm BetaForLife

    watch out…once us shy people trust you, we dont shut up.

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  15. on January 18, 2013 at 1:20 pm LD

    All women are more or less tedious. Their bodies are always fairly interesting.

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  16. on January 18, 2013 at 1:53 pm Anonymous

    Enough alcohol + KY jelly… um, do I have to spell it out or is someone crude bastard going to suggest it? (Alcohol + enough tongue stimulation = a desire to do crazy things… but let get the kinky idea first or at least let her think it’s her idea, I always say.)

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    • on January 19, 2013 at 1:25 am Anti-Blue Pill

      RAPE TIME!!!

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  17. on January 18, 2013 at 2:25 pm Lucky White Male

    Smoking padrone watching Lance Armstrong with his black confessor Oprah winfrey

    You must atone. Bad boy

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    • on January 20, 2013 at 8:41 am thwack

      jokes on you.

      Neil Armstrong is the white man in need of a confessional.

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      • on January 20, 2013 at 1:04 pm Matthew King (King A)

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  18. on January 18, 2013 at 2:39 pm yaser

    On my Swedish site, a dude asked how to do to have a child without having the woman leave with it. He said i didn’t really mind if the woman left for some other dude, but he wanted to not get robbed of the child. I guess he would be okay with shared custody.

    He writes that the experience of his two friends made him afraid of receiving the same treatment.

    I it unjust that females can just go and have a ONS and get to 100% keep their child, but there is no such male equivalence here in the west. Even a surrogate mother could change her mind.

    So what should i answer him?

    My dad said i should advice him to go to a country in the middle east. I guess i would work, specially bringing western cash. In Muslim countries, we men still get full custody by default, and if you have what amounts to a normal westerner income, you can live like a king.

    I was brainstorming about maybe impregnating a woman who agrees to give up custody after birth, and ditch her if she refuses. But then, it’s still his child and in a way, he still gets robbed of it. Maybe getting a girl with problems, and secretly collecting evidence against her in case she decides to leave?

    I don’t know, i don’t feel i have any practically and morally solid answers to give him, except “get religious”.

    I mean, he could go learn game, as any male should… he asked the question after sending a long “wow, i love your philosophy” opener comment.

    My thoughts:

    For us men (in my mind, “i don’t want to have kids” is a huge DLV. What, you got nothing you want to survive your bodily extinction?), it doesn’t cut it to just impregnate some women and just leave them. We want to download our soul onto the new person. It’s just not our body, we want our mind to be passed on. And of course, our power.
    Just filling up the sperm bank does not cut it, else they would be overrun by customers. We want to dominate the woman and mold the child.

    Well, okay, admittedly filling it up Genghis Khan style is different,

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  19. on January 18, 2013 at 3:09 pm gig

    Some chicks are just boring. Lack of creativity is not the same thing as stupidity.

    Most girls are boring, just as most are ugly without make-up. Girls talk about people, unlike men who talk about facts and things, and just occasionally talk about people. Which is also known as gossiping, btw

    You must have stories of your own, and they can only come from traveling or having many friends and experiences with them. Since this is the internet and AFAIK no one here knows me personaly, I keep a record of the best stories from my friends to present as my own when I am with a girl.

    Obviously, to prevent accidents, I always record who told me the story, when, where and who else was present. The “stories” folder in my email actually acts as a sort of diary.

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  20. on January 18, 2013 at 3:44 pm gunslingergregi

    foam at the mouth and bite her like your cujo that should spice it up pretty quick

    get out in some remote area walk away from the car and be like oh shit i hear something what is that over there

    tell her to take her g-string off and put it around your neck then proceed to walk around walmart for an hour or so like its just another day (my chick did this to me i forgot about it freaking did walk around with it nobody said anything funny as hell when she pointed it out later)

    report yourself for having drugs in the car and be pulled over and the canine unit come give her a bag of flour to shove up the cuche

    go to a resteraunt have her sit beside you and share food

    that should be just enough to get her primed to tell you about the lesbian love afair she had at 18 or the gerbel she shoved up some dudes ass and it died

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    • on January 22, 2013 at 7:27 pm Obstinance Works

      Sounds like me 2 years ago.

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  21. on January 18, 2013 at 4:22 pm kroguard

    There’s only two kinds of women: Boring and crazy.

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    • on January 18, 2013 at 4:37 pm the earl of grey

      Three kinds: boring, crazy and stupid.

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      • on January 18, 2013 at 4:53 pm whorefinder

        Wrong; crazy is never boring.

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 12:40 am obsessivecakedisorder

        Neither is rape! 😉

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 1:42 am whorefinder

        lol.

        Unless it’s SWPL rape.

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      • on January 18, 2013 at 5:23 pm happycrow

        You shop in the wrong places.

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  22. on January 18, 2013 at 4:40 pm whorefinder

    Well you r first problem is: you’re on a first date with them. A formal first date.

    Roosh’s plan is simple and accurate—you should always go for the first night lay. That means going in for a kiss the first time you connect. And the second time you see them—if you haven’t closed the deal first—should be at low cost cafes and bars. Again, go for the lay.

    There should be no formal “dinners” and such with a girl in this day and age. Women are whores these days; do not spend a dime on them until they are completely yours. Remember: only house pets get fed.

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    • on January 19, 2013 at 10:52 am gaoxiaen

      Even if she asks and pays for the dinner? I can always go for that.

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  23. on January 18, 2013 at 5:22 pm happycrow

    Life is too short to waste it with boring women. Screw her once or twice if you want, and then walk away. I walked away from a 10 to marry an 8, have never ONCE regretted it.

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    • on January 19, 2013 at 12:17 pm Jackmcg

      This happened

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 12:25 pm happycrow

        Good man. Who wants to spend time with a woman who’s got the personality of a piece of cardboard?

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    • on January 19, 2013 at 12:50 pm Matthew King (King A)

      Walking the streets with you and your worn out jeans
      I can’t help thinking this is how it ought to be.
      Laughing on a park bench thinking to myself,
      “Hey, isn’t this easy?”

      And you’ve got a smile
      That could light up this whole town.
      I haven’t seen it in awhile
      Since she brought you down.

      You say you’re fine ‒ I know you better than that.
      Hey, what you doing with a girl like that?

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  24. on January 18, 2013 at 5:26 pm AlphaBeta

    This just in: women are liars http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00224490309552164

    (I kid… Maybe)

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  25. on January 18, 2013 at 5:58 pm 3rd Millenium Men

    Not many things worse than a boring girl… I work with one at the moment who is a 9/10 and the ONLY thing that can get her to say more than 3 words is through asking her something about salsa dancing. She does it 6 nights a week and will wax lyrical about it. But everything else, she’s DEAD boring. Garh… guys have historically only been able to put up with her great looks for a month or two before being so bored out of their minds by her that they give her the flick.

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  26. on January 18, 2013 at 6:30 pm Anonymous

    My “love test” goes something like this: “What is your general monetary theory?”

    If she responds that gold is the champion of money, especially in a huffy tone as if there could be any question, that in real life rock has been beating paper for 3000 years, then she is a keeper.

    If, however, she should respond with something along the lines of:

    “Monetary theory? I don’t know what you said
    Ize desouled like fiat dollarz, printed by da Fed”

    You can rest assured she is bernunkified. Case closed.

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    • on January 18, 2013 at 7:25 pm retrophoebia

      Or, she could be reading GBFM, in which case, also a keeper.

      I told a gal the other night to stop thinking, because it was dangerous, to which she replied “But then how would I know what to cook?” Cool gal with an exceptional chick sense of humor.

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  27. on January 18, 2013 at 6:35 pm Unending Improvement (@UnendImprov)

    Anonymous 6:30 pm is on his way there, but we really need GBFM to spread his wisdom.

    There is a connection between Helicopter Ben and boring women, GBFM just needs to reveal it.

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  28. on January 18, 2013 at 7:15 pm thwack

    There is nothing wrong with a boring woman.

    The problem is the boring woman who wants to be in charge, or can’t follow orders…

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    • on January 19, 2013 at 4:50 pm NiteLily

      What is it with you lately, thwack? LOL! You abandoned racists and their trees for whacking girls? 🙂

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      • on January 20, 2013 at 8:50 am thwack

        Not at all. I figure maybe if I help them get some pussy, they will get off the black cock.

        Besides, they don’t wanna fight me; they keep duckin and fighting bums.

        Shut up old man!

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      • on January 20, 2013 at 12:39 pm NiteLily

        LOL! I think you’re right; they don’t wanna fight you. They seem to be taking you into the fold and making you part of the brotherhood. Even the Senior citizen racist whom you used to play Tom and Jerry with, is quite friendly to you lately, which proves that no matter what color the cock, it’s always not as foreign as the vagina. If you know what I mean, jellybean. 🙂

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      • on January 20, 2013 at 1:17 pm Matthew King (King A)

        If there’s one thing to be learned from this site, it’s that men prefer black cock to vagina.

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      • on January 20, 2013 at 2:52 pm NiteLily

        Oh, without a doubt!!!

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      • on January 21, 2013 at 9:33 am Greg Eliot

        Meh… I sense a disturbance in the Force.

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      • on January 21, 2013 at 12:57 pm NiteLily

        Is there any time you don’t stick your dick into Matt’s butt on every post of his with the excuse of the self-appointed mercenary of the Force that you are?

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      • on January 21, 2013 at 1:41 pm Matthew King (King A)

        Projection. NiteLily wants her SphincPucker to experience the Third Input. The Force told me she’d be down to go to browntown.

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      • on January 21, 2013 at 1:45 pm Greg Eliot

        Is there any time you don’t stick your dick into Matt’s butt on every post of his with the excuse of the self-appointed mercenary of the Force that you are?

        a) Funny, coming from one who can’t keep her/his big schnozz out of my butt.

        b) Stooping to the homoerotic insults now? Your other shaming language was getting a might stale, but appropriating the PUA South Park jargon is no breath of fresh air.

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      • on January 21, 2013 at 1:47 pm Greg Eliot

        Projection. NiteLily wants her SphincPucker to experience the Third Input. The Force told me she’d be down to go to browntown.

        Assuming he is actually a she, it’d be too much like her mouth… like her, I wouldn’t know which end is up.

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      • on January 21, 2013 at 2:03 pm NiteLily

        “Funny, coming from one who can’t keep her/his big schnozz out of my butt.”

        There is reason for it. What’s your reason, other than just agreeing with Matt and being a pain in his butt stuck to him like crazy glue?

        “Stooping to the homoerotic insults now? Your other shaming language was getting a might stale,”

        Just pointing out the obvious. You seem to be stuck to him, so how else is he going to be free for the ladies to have their way with him? 🙂

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      • on January 21, 2013 at 2:05 pm NiteLily

        “Assuming he is actually a she,”
        You never know, do you? But a man with experience and awareness would know. You’re just too self-centered to see the whole picture. Too busy focusing on your pain to realize anything.

        It’s understandable, though. Most Nazzis couldn’t associate with other’s pain or feelings. You’re just following the troops.

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      • on January 21, 2013 at 2:08 pm Greg Eliot

        Your pain comes through loud and clear with each attempt to shame, snooks… geez, you’re a veritable projection machine!

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      • on January 21, 2013 at 2:18 pm NiteLily

        Nope! I am inflicting pain on you, which is why you can’t see anything but your hurt, and which is why you appeal to ban me. Remember?

        If you could handle me, you wouldn’t be complaining so much. Tell-Tell sign. 🙂

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      • on January 22, 2013 at 9:28 am Matthew King (King A)

        What are you wearing?

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  29. on January 18, 2013 at 7:29 pm dannyfrom504

    Girls don’t need to be interesting. Most guys will validate them based on looks alone.

    You want to mess up a cute girls head, ask her WHY when she states an opinion. Most dudes just go along with her to try to build repoir. Be different and ask her to justify her opinion.

    You’ll stand out and bring major tingles.

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    • on January 19, 2013 at 4:50 pm NiteLily

      Very true.

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  30. on January 18, 2013 at 7:35 pm Boring Women « PUA Central

    […] Is she acting bored, or is she genuinely boring? The distinction is important. Exciting women can be brought to bored lows in the company of boring men. A woman who passively responds to stimuli could have in her possession such a wealth of experience with men that it takes a lot to get her invested in any one particular date. (This is a problem if you date sluts.) If that’s happening, the problem is fixed by challenging those women. You can spark Source: Chateau Heartiste   […]

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  31. on January 18, 2013 at 8:30 pm Snout Smack

    Washington Beta Post upset about White House Petition to end White genocide (by forced diversity).

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2013/01/18/petition-stop-white-genocide/

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    • on January 18, 2013 at 8:51 pm PA

      WaPo is spreading the meme “Africa for Africans, etc”

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    • on January 18, 2013 at 8:56 pm PA

      Look for “white rabbit radio” videos on youtube for”elaboration

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    • on January 19, 2013 at 4:54 pm NiteLily

      All immigration should be stopped – legal and illegal. We can’t handle the 3rd world crushing here. That Jonathan Capehar should be thrown out of the country. How dare he complain? He shouldn’t be here either.

      He says:
      “I don’t know where to begin. Frankly, there’s no use trying to understand the mind that would form such twisted views, let alone one that would share them on the Web site of the president of the United States. But know this, Albert is not alone. When I first clicked on the petition, he had 388 co-signers from all over the country, including from unlikely places such as New York City, New Haven, Conn., Silver Spring, Md., and Berkeley, Calif. And he gained another one in the time it took me to write this post.”

      Some nerve!!!

      I think the author of the petition knows it wouldn’t do much, but he just wanted to irk Obama and his band of globalists. LOL! I’m sure they’re foaming at the mouth wishing they could stop this man from practicing his First Amendment rights. Good! They should be reminded of the Constitution day in and day out.

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    • on January 23, 2013 at 11:01 pm Adam

      “Is this the most racist White House petition ever created?”
      “stop genocide”

      Next time I hear someone whining about Sudan I’ll call them a Nazi.

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      • on January 23, 2013 at 11:18 pm obsessivecakedisorder

        The irony would be wasted.

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  32. on January 18, 2013 at 10:02 pm Ben

    A very quiet woman (the sex most likely to blabber) is, in my experience, usually stupid.

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  33. on January 18, 2013 at 10:06 pm D

    Is a girl’s personality really that important? If a girl is boring me, just try doing something exciting with her. See if you can get her to screw in the bathroom at whatever venue you’re at, or at least get her to go down on you. I’ve done that a couple times. See how boring she is then.

    Also, I want to thank this website. Before coming to this website last year, I was a cad who banged a lot of girls and quality varied, to say the least. I was proud of maybe half. Since coming here, the quality has not only shot way up, so has the number of gifts women buy me. I even got to live with a hot girl 8 years younger than me that for 2 months while I was unemployed and had no apartment, and I was still banging her and three other girls at once. I love this site!

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  34. on January 18, 2013 at 10:35 pm feministx

    “Is she acting bored, or is she genuinely boring? The distinction is important. Exciting women can be brought to bored lows in the company of boring men.”

    Only you would have such such a response to the question of boring women. Most women are boring. Very boring. The fact that you seem to think being boring is some level of aberration shows how much you really like women and how much you are fascinated by the nature of the female- any female really. You are on the skinny end of the bell curve on that one- interest in women.

    Trust. Women are boring as tables.

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  35. on January 19, 2013 at 12:11 am Gil

    I’ll go with the “she’s not boring just bored around you” line.

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  36. on January 19, 2013 at 1:05 am Ronin

    Roosh had a good post on this with 3 ideas for responses.

    And similar to what others are saying here, he throws out the idea that you could very well be smarter, more experienced, and more interesting than most people, and 95% of women out there.

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  37. on January 19, 2013 at 2:08 am Neecy

    Women are damned if we do and damned if we don;t. 👿

    We are either blabber mouths that talk too much or too quiet and boring. 😐

    is there a happy medium? LOL I already know my answer to that question, I’m just curious if men really believe there is actually a happy medium.

    And men say we women don’t know what we want? HA! 🙄

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    • on January 19, 2013 at 5:36 am yaser

      (me: a married man)

      Talk intelligently and humbly, while smiling and laughing occasionally.

      Ask my opinion and consider them seriously, ask when you don’t get me. Bring up old things i have said, that shows you payed attention.

      Now and then, ask me if i have read interesting article as of late.

      I don’t mind if you go into female-fantasy mode, as long as you are okay with me only listing.

      And sex. Talk about sex.

      That works for me.

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    • on January 19, 2013 at 7:06 am Nicole

      What works for me (since guys are definitely not pursuing me for my looks) is letting the man lead the conversation, letting him know when you don’t know things, and being willing to learn something new. If you’re in the position of telling him about something you’re interested in, try not to be overly preachy about it. Also, be honest in explaining that you may have certain opinions because you’re biased.

      Basically, be the girl. That’s the answer to just about any question of what’s the right thing to do with men. Guys who aren’t prepared to be the man will go away soon.

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 11:06 am thwack

        Nicole
        (since guys are definitely not pursuing me for my looks)
        —————————————————————

        True or false; at one time you were hot? (tell the truth)

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 12:59 pm Matthew King (King A)

        Little Suzie Walsh once was! At least when she was 15 or so.

        I was going to compliment her in the comments, but couldn’t get past the psychedelic patchwork camel toe.

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    • on January 19, 2013 at 4:16 pm happycrow

      I like a woman with something interesting to say; always have.

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  38. on January 19, 2013 at 6:02 am Zz

    I agree from expeience calling them boring won’t work–if it did work they have pride and wouldn’t be boring in the first place–so don’t delude yourself– but there is an argument that you should create the pretention that you don’t date boring girls and maybe actually stick to it. Attitude is, I’m high value and interesting. I cant spend 5-7 hours of my valuable time with a boring girl just to have sex with her, what fck do I care if she’s hot, I’ve bang tons of hot girls. (I tell girls who are interesting this and it makes me look cool While also appealing to the pride of the Girl.) When I suspect a girl I’m hanging out with is boring, I’ll throw some interesting out on the table, ask them to tell me something interesting, and then if they don’t, they are fired.

    If you’re so smart/interesting that you find almost all girls stupid or boring, then I suggest you only date girls who speak other langugages, and learn their languages. This way you can still be using your time well and making yourself more powerful. You will also feel less bored. I also use this to be interested talking to much younger girls.

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  39. on January 19, 2013 at 8:56 am dannyfrom504

    boring girl (especially PRETTY) boring girls can get nuked by a simple question- WHY? most guys fail be trying to relate to everything a beautiful woman says to try and relate to her. NO ONE asks her why.

    and many beautiful women are boring because they DON’T.NEED. to be interesting. i’m ok looking, so i HAVE to interesting in order to build attraction.

    but honestly, if she’s boring, it’s RARELY because she not attracted to me. i’ve managed to get her out with me, there has to be SOME attraction. and i have 4 black belts in reading IOI’s. if she’s boring i’ll lose interest.

    i’ll be type polite. but i’ll end the date quickly and won’t call again.

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  40. on January 19, 2013 at 10:42 am walawala

    A few comments here. The reader mentions a “date”. I will share my experiences after learning game.

    “Dates”—no one goes on them, it’s a meet up, a Day 2 or some way to spend time together.

    To get to this stage, I usually screen girls I meet. So if I’m going to ask them out i should have already qualified them, done some sort of compliance testing on them, amped up the attraction and moved towards comfort so that the reason for the Day 2 is to build comfort.

    The Mystery Method addresses the reader’s concern in a very structured way.

    I don’t have the problem with “boring” “dates” anymore. Sometimes I’ll game girls who I just can’t connect with on any level.

    I don’t take it further.

    But if I do meet a girl, I always position it as “Hanging out” so it takes the pressure out of the meeting.

    That could be a reason why the girl has nothing to say.

    Negs, cocky-funny teasing all help to spark attraction that gets the girl to invest and start chasing you.

    A case and point. A girl I met a year ago at a wedding and danced with once gave me IOI’s but it didnt’ go anywhere. I gamed her, she was quiet and shy and I found it hard to get a few words out of her.

    But then I met her a few months later and amped up the cocky-funny.

    Slowly I built rapport. Then found a “Day 2” that gave us maximum opportunity to interact–we went to a photo exhibition since she’s artsy.

    That gave me plenty of opportunities to ask “What about this?” “What do you feel about this?” etc etc.

    I could also DHV by talking about photography and work I’ve done as well.

    After that it was classic: Attraction, Comfort, then Seduction.

    The other aspect to inject with “boring girls” is Kino—-Kino is vital. Is the reader kino-ing his date? Who cares whether you have a lot to say. Start to kino her.

    The “love test” is good. The one I always do is “The Cube”—you have to get her interested in it.

    Ask her a bunch of questions about herself. Then I usually give a cold read: “You look like a librarian….you look like you’d be great with animals/kids/criminals” whatever….

    Then I work up the idea of “I can read your personality”….”Really?” is the responise….then she’s invested.

    I banged her after 3 “Day outs”. Now she can’t get enough of me, always chatting, planning, sending photos etc to me.

    Boring? Now she’s doing all the work and chasing. I’m deciding.

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  41. on January 19, 2013 at 11:17 am walawala

    Just one more thing to add. As I get better at game, it becomes clear to me from personal experience that “Attraction” has very little to do with having interesting conversations and more about understanding how a woman’s inner desires are sparked.

    You can have great conversations with a woman who sees you only as a “friend”. The point of this is how to spark attraction to get the woman to open up and build rapport and comfort.

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    • on January 19, 2013 at 12:09 pm YaReally

      ““Attraction” has very little to do with having interesting conversations and more about understanding how a woman’s inner desires are sparked.”

      Very accurate. Also your other comment in here is full of gold and guys should be reading it. Solid stuff.

      This notion that conversations don’t matter unlocks a whole nother level to game. You can bang a girl without saying a word to her or speaking in a different language or just saying random nonsense or in a too-loud-to-hear environment etc when you understand how little words mean and how much more important it is to simply spike their Buying Temperature and run them through the emotions that build attraction.

      Try opening and getting a makeout without saying a word…just use facial expressions, eye contact, kino, etc

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      • on January 19, 2013 at 10:57 pm popups

        Yareally, did I understand correctly on one of your responses to another post…you have a gf now ?
        😦

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      • on January 20, 2013 at 2:22 am YaReally

        I’ve had one for about 2.5 years.

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      • on January 20, 2013 at 12:50 pm Anonymous

        say it aint so

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      • on January 21, 2013 at 2:29 am gunslingergregi

        theres always one eventually that you end up thinking is a special snowflake

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      • on January 21, 2013 at 9:42 am YaReally

        lol wow relax guys, although my penis thanks you for being concerned about it 🙂

        She doesn’t sleep around and she knows I sleep around. I see her once or twice a week where we do romantical relationship stuff like holding hands in the grocery store and cuddling up watching movies and sharing our day and all that. And I spend certain holidays with her (Valentine’s Day, XMas, because those are romantic holidays but not New Years or Halloween because those are party holidays and she doesn’t go to bars or drink).

        She’s my primary and comes before other girls. But on the weekends I go out with friends and game new girls and I hook up with those girls either that night or during the week sometime when it’s convenient for me. The girls I hook up with know about my Primary and that they’re Secondary to her priority-wise, and my Primary knows that I hook up with other girls when I’m on my own time but also knows that she’s more important than they are.

        She’s not a special snowflake, she’s just a normal girl who I happen to click with extremely well so she gets to be a larger part of my life than other girls. If she became too much drama or hassled me too much about other girls and I was forced to choose between monogamy with her or playing the field it wouldn’t even be a question in my mind…monogamy with a girl is just not something I offer.

        I plan to make some lifestyle changes (travel etc) in 2013 that don’t really gel with having a gf so i’ll probably have to end things down the road…but I don’t think that far ahead in relationships, I just enjoy the person and appreciate the time we get together while we have it.

        …and I use a condom so she doesn’t get preggo lol

        You can read more about the YaReally Trifecta (lol) arrangement and how I manage it and set it up here:

        https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/01/08/declining-intimacy-vs-declining-attraction/#comment-401912

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    • on January 19, 2013 at 6:27 pm immoralgables

      I really enjoy reading your posts. Seeing how you’ve been commenting her for a few years its cool to see the progression.

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    Redeemable at the nearest feminist/land-whale/ass-crack ugly womyn near you!

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  43. on January 19, 2013 at 5:00 pm Dave

    My fiance is introverted and she fits perfectly the following description :

    http://kingdomofintroversion.com/2009/11/24/women-introverts/
    Based on that and on what the other commenters have said, do you think she’ll make a good wife ?

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    • on January 19, 2013 at 5:09 pm Dave

      She also has a mild form of social anxiety. Can a woman with no social skills be a good wife ?

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      • on January 20, 2013 at 9:32 am Greg Eliot

        Depends upon you and your occupation… if you’re the kind of guy that is satisfied making colonel and going no further, a shy wife’s okay.

        But if you want to be a general, she’d better be a social dynamo.

        Just one example of course… but it applies to many occupations.

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  44. on January 19, 2013 at 5:35 pm Full-Fledged Fiasco

    Woman and her Control on Man.

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  45. on January 19, 2013 at 6:29 pm Site reader

    O/T, for possible filing under “Culture” and “Goodbye, America” categories, a review of the documentary on Germany and World War II, “A Warning from History.”

    Text of review.

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    • on January 20, 2013 at 9:01 am thwack

      mmmmmm yummy!

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  46. on January 19, 2013 at 6:42 pm Kate

    Me like anal

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    • on January 19, 2013 at 10:36 pm Kate

      Very funny. You and ILustforGeishaKate should get together.

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  47. on January 19, 2013 at 10:55 pm popups

    I thought shy girls were considered attractive? Heartiste has said that he finds it attractive.

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    • on January 20, 2013 at 1:34 pm Anon

      Shy and introvert does not necessarily mean boring.

      I love shy introverted (quality) pussy.

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      • on January 20, 2013 at 2:56 pm NiteLily

        Shy women are very feminine. All a shy woman needs is a strong masculine guy to bring her out of her shell and the rest is pussy history made in heaven. 🙂

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  48. on January 20, 2013 at 2:58 pm Paddington@paddington.com

    In unrelated news, Tiger Woods has got to be the Beta Of The Week:

    http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/01/17/tiger-woods-proposes-to-ex-wife-elin-nordegren-report-says/

    He’s trying to propose to his ex-wife. And the proposal is based on money, come back and you get this much. His ex-wife has countered with an offer for more cash.

    WTF is the point of this? Why? Why? Why? It’s desperate beta behavior. He’s too foolish to not see that a woman he has to entice into marriage with money is never going to be a real wife to him. This ain’t about love to her, it’s about money. Also, why would he want to get back with her? Classic case of putting the pussy on the pedestal.

    Whatever girls Tiger Woods did get were due to his being in shape, a pro-athelete, a multi-millionaire, and a celebrity. His behavior though is 100% beta. No game whatsoever. And no common sense either.

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    • on January 21, 2013 at 4:42 pm Mebus

      Holy manjaw! She could go hunting at seal island with that jaw. Those seals won’t know what hit them.

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  49. on January 20, 2013 at 3:01 pm Anonymous

    On topic, I would have to say that a boring woman is my dream woman. I do not like having to take girls out on interesting activities, or even try to make interesting conversation with them. My MO, is to bring them back to my place, watch an episode of Game of Thrones or Boardwalk Empire on the TV, while drinking beer/wine, and then fuck them afterwards. A nice, quiet, boring girl is ideal.

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    • on January 20, 2013 at 9:50 pm Anon

      I feel you, bro.

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      • on January 20, 2013 at 9:51 pm Anon

        Also… RAPE!

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  50. on January 20, 2013 at 4:08 pm oscarwildefan

    OK, full disclosure, I’m gay, but when are girls NOT boring? I mean, seriously, if it weren’t for sexual attraction to them, would you care about anything that comes out of their mouths? I’ve never had conversation with a woman that I remember as interesting. They have nothing in their heads except wanting stuff, and when they do have stuff in their heads it’s either just random chitchat things, or opinions and tastes they picked up from elsewhere and are just putting it on.

    Most men are the same too, but all women are like this. Seriously guys, I don’t get this, if it weren’t for your sexual attraction to them you’d see women for the emptyheaded fools they are.

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  51. on January 20, 2013 at 4:22 pm Holden Caulfield

    Recent news story: Sex is a major reason military commanders are fired.

    Key quote: officials struggle to explain why the problem has grown and they acknowledge that solving it is difficult and will take time.

    Let’s see if we can explain in one sentence: High status males in contact with hypergamous females.

    Discuss.

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    • on January 20, 2013 at 4:46 pm gunslingergregi

      also that it is the womans intent to get special perks the minute the guy doesn’t go along with that then it becomes sexual harrassment instead of what they had a relationship. The chick is not on the line for anything except getting a promotion if she does hook up and a promotion is she reports it when he doesn’t give any more breaks lol
      its win win for the woman in every way
      or other woman report it cause they jealous of not getting super extra special treatment.

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  52. on January 20, 2013 at 4:42 pm gunslingergregi

    studies have shown that woman like spending time with greg more than smoking crack lolzzzzzzzzz

    only frame of reference before i really have is like new jack city and my friend who said he has seen in the past a bitch do anything for crack including selling there kids and shit.
    i guess if a chick wants to be with you more than she wants drugs i guess it means she really fucking wants to be with you.
    kind of getting a big head i may have to be classified as addictive and made illegal he he he

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  53. on January 20, 2013 at 4:59 pm gunslingergregi

    im at the club last night and a chick walks up and says we the cutest couple in the club and she wants to take a picture so we pose up and get the pic taken

    we doing our thing having fun she does the leg wrap i do the no hands she down to the floor with her head i do the push up throw up and grab out the air but yea not the only grinding shit doing a little acrobatic type shit
    or ok im sitting there and she comes out bathroom jumps in my lap
    or i’m at bar and she jumps on my back lolzzz
    anyway we get kicked out club mother fuckers
    can’t have to much fun i guess
    we even had a couple tables full of niggers sitting there trying to see how dancing is done instead of those movies where they teach some white chick how to dance
    had a white chick with a black dude try and tell my chick to stop dancing lol
    she ain’t have shit going on
    i guess only supposed to grind not get creative or piss off the white chicks with black boyfriends and make them feel stupid he he he

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  54. on January 21, 2013 at 9:57 am Nemo

    Have you seen this? Its worth the reading and ilustrates some of the issues discussed in CH: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2263518/I-left-love-life-I-thought-I-better-Now-Im-childless-42.html

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    • on January 23, 2013 at 3:32 pm Holden Caulfield

      She was entitled when she was younger and now sad and bitter when older. Sadly, that story and many others like it are a dime a dozen.

      There was a great post in the archives of Craigslist (best of) about “What happened to all the nice guys?” The answer to women was “you did.” You shit on all the good ones and some become players, others continue on their beta ways but find someone else, etc. Never underestimate the female entitlement complex. Most women think its okay to ride the cock carousel when younger because they EXPECT someone great to be leftover and interested (lol) when they are ready for marriage. Laughable.

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  55. on January 22, 2013 at 3:12 pm ATrain

    @ heartiste, care to comment?

    one easy way to point out feminist hypocrisy is to bring up prostitution. A true believer in personal liberty and gender equality of process would argue prostitution is a consensual agreement between two adults and should not be illegal. However many feminists who are really pursuing equal outcomes (resource redistribution) view prostitution as a threat to the existing legal racket of marriage/divorce

    http://reason.com/archives/2013/01/21/the-war-on-sex-workers/singlepage

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  56. on January 22, 2013 at 5:26 pm gunslingergregi

    lat the pics in two of them she is leaning away from him
    course on the kid thing they might not of fullfilled her either having two
    maybe she just not happy

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  57. on January 22, 2013 at 7:31 pm Obstinance Works

    Bonus pointer: Refrain from calling out a girl for being boring. This tactic hardly ever works when you’re already on a date with her. IF you do want to hit her with that, try to dress it up as a backhanded compliment, eg: “It’s so nice to be with a girl for once who is Ok with just sitting next to you quietly and not feeling like she has to say something amazing every five seconds.” That’ll get her hamster spinning furiously.<<<<<<

    But if she's dumb you'll have to be a little more direct.

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  58. on February 2, 2013 at 3:39 pm alfredwclark

    “Have you ever fucked in front of your cat?”

    Awesome.

    Or what about a few comments to get the insecurity hamster going?

    Here’s my new post on affirmative action:

    http://occamsrazormag.wordpress.com/2013/02/01/affirmative-action-at-high-education-ron-unz-farron-and-others/

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