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Why Ask Why? Shun The Stale Seven Questions

January 23, 2013 by CH

Here’s a little trick for beginners to improve their rapport skills with women: don’t ask them questions. Specifically, don’t ask them the following anticipated questions:

What’s your name?
What do you do?
Where do you live?
Where are you from?
What school did you go to?
Where do you work?
How do you like it here?

When you meet a girl, and she’s a tight-lipped sort who won’t volunteer much to help a conversation gain traction, you will feel a powerful compulsion to ask these kinds of filler questions. When you feel that urge, STOP yourself mentally, keep your trap shut, and spend a second or two thinking up some other kind of question to ask her, if you must ask something. It doesn’t matter what question you substitute in the place of the Stale Seven above, as long as it is different and, therefore, unexpected. You could ask “How would you calculate the hypotenuse of a right triangle if your life depended on it?” and you would get better reactions from girls than asking some boring question she’s heard a thousand times this week (if she’s cute).

If it helps your willpower, imagine the claw grip of CH wielding a blackboard pointer and rapping it briskly against your knuckles when you think impure thoughts about the Stale Seven. Such a visualization will coax an idle grin from you, which will in turn arouse the curiosity of your mark. And once a girl is curious about you, her labia begin to flower like a Desert Lily after an August deluge.

Willing yourself to shun the Stale Seven is more than a game tactic to attract women; it’s on-the-go practice for becoming a better conversationalist, a skill that can apply to any situation involving a second human being. When you force a pattern interrupt on yourself, you sharpen your focus and hone your mind to think differently. To think more seductively. Many men complain they can never “think of anything to say” to women, but a big reason for their comatose tongues rests in the fact that their minds still operate under the guidelines of old, intransigent ways. They haven’t yet actively pushed their brains out of the comfort zone. Other people can push you out of your comfort zone, but so can you alone, through deliberate concentration on sidestepping lazy traps your mind lays for you. That first time you catch yourself midway through the word “Where…” on the way to completing the “Where are you from?” banality, you will feel something akin to a happy mental rush. “Yes!” you will mentally intone, “I stopped myself from muttering a beta male triviality! This means I have the power to mold myself into a more interesting man.”

A little victory, to be sure, but those little victories add up, until one day you’re twirling a girl round and round the dance floor of your mind.

Now that we know how to be less predictable around women, we can move on to step two: being more of a challenge. This step typically encompasses a lot of material, so for now we’ll discuss one particular method that will instantly imbue you with the churlish aura of alphatude that women crave as much as you crave a firm ass and supple breasts.

Ask, “Why?”. Why ask why? Reader dannyfrom504 explains:

Girls don’t need to be interesting. Most guys will validate them based on looks alone.

You want to mess up a cute girls head, ask her WHY when she states an opinion. Most dudes just go along with her to try to build [sic] repoir. Be different and ask her to justify her opinion.

You’ll stand out and bring major tingles.

You ask why because it is the one category of question that most men don’t ask of women. When was the last time you heard a beta male asking a girl why she thought this way, or why she thinks that way, or why she likes to be a heartbreaker, or why she she can’t sit still, or why she has to be the center of attention? When was the last time you *didn’t* see a beta male dutifully nodding his head like a hired lackey to every inanity spilled from a pretty girl’s mouth?

< kenyan > Now let me be clear. < /kenyan > You ask why not out of spite, or disapproval. You ask it sincerely, because it’s delightfully shocking to women to hear it, and it’s a challenge most women can’t resist. You ask because you want to know. Or, more likely, you don’t really want to know, but you fake interest till you make interest. Asking “why?” will immediately and in no uncertain terms set you apart from the horde of indistinguishable men an attractive woman interacts with every day. It’s bold, it’s ballsy, and it’s exciting to women. And excitement = sexytime.

Furthermore, “why?” is a great short-cut for getting women to open up and reveal a bit about themselves. This is known in pick-up parlance as “value eliciting”. Once you key in on a woman’s values, you can feed them back to her as if they were also your own, and construct a feeling of connection that is so important to women as a prelude to any sexual relinquishment.

Some of you dreadfully fearful minimen will ask “What if she replies ‘Why do you care?’“. First, you would be lucky to cross paths with more than 1 out of 50 women who would answer in that bitchy manner. But, for the sake of argument, here’s what you say if that does happen to you: “Charming.” Brevity cues the glow of clits.

You need to know two things about female psychology before you know anything else. Women HATE HATE HATE boring men. And women REALLY HATE HATE HATE supplicating yes-men.

Women are attracted — yes, primally, sexually attracted — to interesting men, and to challenging men.

Don’t be boring. Don’t be a suck-up. If you accomplish those two miracles and wonders, you are halfway to sleeping with the kinds of women you’ve always dreamed of defiling. If you have questioned your ability to borrow and then alchemize the alpha attitude for yourself, know that avoiding classic (and easily avoidable) beta male manbooby traps like asking boring, autonomically retrievable questions, and nodding like a puppet to every throwaway musing a woman utters, is 9/10ths of the effort needed to shed your crusty, beta chrysalis.

So keep those toes a-tapping, gentlemen, because you are not like the rest.

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  1. on January 23, 2013 at 4:36 pm JS

    If you’re stuck for something to say, say “You know, I once killed a man with my bare hands.” She’ll smile and then you just make up some outrageous and obviously fake story.

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    • on January 23, 2013 at 5:59 pm Uncle Elmer

      My brother would tell chicks his appendix scar was a result of a knife fight.

      When I visited him at his drinking college, one of his friends took me aside and asked if it were true that his mother was a black whore in Paris.

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    • on January 25, 2013 at 4:06 pm yaser

      Bare hands? Pff…

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    • on January 26, 2013 at 4:35 pm rvsr1@juno.com

      But what if I really have killed a man with my hands?

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  2. on January 23, 2013 at 4:42 pm Harry Morgan

    Relatedly, don’t give the expected answers to these sorts of questions from chicks. I never tell girls what I do when they first ask, I give then an outlandish answer instead (I have my personal favorite, but I’m not sharing that one). It should be over the top, funny, and stated with complete sincerity. I’m so used to mine now that even though it is completely ridiculous, I can field pretty much any question about it with a totally straight face. Girls routinely believe my BS until I lean in and conspiratorially whisper in their ear “I don’t actually do XXX, I’m really a YYY.” Surprise them, excite them, then bring them into your secret world.

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    • on January 23, 2013 at 7:40 pm Matthew King (King A)

      Yes. It’s another way of asserting your frame over the situation. Few women are good at the art of conversation, commenter Kate here a notable exception, whose pith and wit can hang with any man’s.

      Women have trouble with initiative, of course. Not only are they naturally disinclined to begin something, but they don’t have one-hundredth the practice that men (Have to) acquire just to survive. The open-ended, softball seven questions are designed to lessen the sting of being put on the spot, imagining the girl will appreciate you for being unobtrusive. (“I know what school I went to! That’s an easy one!”)

      But the pointed, even rude inquiries set rodents scrambling for wheels. Not only do you distinguish yourself from Joe Blow with a memorable encounter, you tickle that part of her soul that is dying for its first real touch.

      I wouldn’t get overly cute about it, though. Cloying cutesy-wootsy randomness (“Excuse me, but do you know who invented the paper clip?” tryhard twinkle) is bad for a man’s dignity. Err on the side of embarrassing her, make her cheeks blush — the female body can’t tell the difference between shame and arousal. (Which is why we tease and they love to be teased.) The false outrage at your temerity also revs their temperature.

      Most important, a brazen intimacy publicly offered marks her as your territory. If they go away in a huff, they still have one eye on you. “Who is that asshole?” is not the worst impression to leave on her, under the concept of there’s no such thing as bad PR.

      Matt

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 9:16 pm Kate

        How nice of you to say. You realize, I’m sure, we’re reaching the anniversary of our collision. I’m not expecting a lot, but a small token of affection wouldn’t go amiss 🙂

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 9:26 pm Anon

        Greedy ho.

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 10:03 pm Kate

        Cut me some slack. I’m ovulating. I was thinking a nice cord of wood for my fireplace.

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      • on January 26, 2013 at 2:24 pm Matthew King (King A)

        a small token of affection wouldn’t go amiss … Cut me some slack. I’m ovulating.

        Just mailed you a full turkey baster packed in dry ice. XOXO~~~

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      • on January 26, 2013 at 3:20 pm Kate

        And just what am I supposed to do with that?

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      • on January 26, 2013 at 3:25 pm Matthew King (King A)

        D’oh. I’ll send along detailed instructions in my next missive. I thought it was self-explanatory.

        In a nutshell:

        Insert Tab A into Slot B. Squeeze bulb. Bake on high hormones for nine months.

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      • on January 26, 2013 at 3:29 pm Kate

        So, I’m to have the child of a man whose name I don’t know, whose face I haven’t seen, and who could be anywhere in the world? Even *I* am not that crazy (even in fiction). Put your money where your mouth is or I sell the little guys to the highest bidder.

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      • on January 27, 2013 at 6:27 pm Matthew King (King A)

        Sexy, innit?

        You’ll know my race when the baby comes out, and you’ll slowly become acquainted with the rest of my appearance as he grows up.

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      • on January 27, 2013 at 7:03 pm Kate

        Oh good grief. Pass me the sunscreen, please.

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      • on January 27, 2013 at 7:14 pm Matthew King (King A)

        That’s not sunscreen, baby.

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      • on January 27, 2013 at 7:43 pm Kate

        Well, what is it? Some sort of topical insemination cream? Egads, man, will you stop at nothing to see me carry your progeny?!?!?!

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      • on January 27, 2013 at 8:20 pm Matthew King (King A)

        It wasn’t sunscreen. It was sunblock.

        Topical insemination cream? You have such a creepy imagination.

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      • on January 27, 2013 at 8:59 pm Kate

        I’ve got nothin’.

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      • on January 28, 2013 at 12:42 pm Matthew King (King A)

        Okay then. I’m ready to talk about cereal now.

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      • on January 28, 2013 at 1:10 pm Kate

        lol

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  3. on January 23, 2013 at 4:48 pm Winston

    Replace the stale 7 with the tantalizing 27…

    http://www.bakadesuyo.com/2011/08/is-there-a-shortcut-to-bonding-with-a-romanti/

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    • on January 23, 2013 at 4:53 pm Revo Luzione

      Good call. I was thinking of that exact link. Barker’s a great resource for the charismatic deep-thinker.

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    • on January 23, 2013 at 5:22 pm ZMBIKLR

      Meh. Ask her how she feels about something important to you rather than some canned pickup line. Tell her why she’s wrong if she disagrees with what you believe. Just smile if she agrees.

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 12:55 pm Anonymous

        Hey, lovely, I want to screw you in the ass bent over the hood of my car until you’re screaming my name in multiple orgasms– do you prefer K-Y or Astroglide for being defiled into ecstasy you’ll remember decades from now?

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      • on January 25, 2013 at 12:44 pm Anonymous

        Well, maybe “buggered” instead of “defiled”…

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      • on January 25, 2013 at 2:40 pm ZMBIKLR

        Ouch…not sure? Faux confidence tell…..that will dry her up quick. If you want to defile….then fucking defile.

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      • on January 25, 2013 at 2:42 pm ZMBIKLR

        Then again…why are you doing it for her, or even using lube? Why does she know your name?

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      • on January 25, 2013 at 2:45 pm ZMBIKLR

        Why is she not begging you to want to do that to her? So many questions…

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  4. on January 23, 2013 at 4:52 pm Revo Luzione

    Great commentary. For those of us fortunate to be born under the most alpha sign there is, that is the sun sign of “epic curiosity,” asking questions like “why” comes as easily morning wood.

    Further benefits of “why” include succinctness, challenging her, and often putting her into the “defensive crouch,” the body position that CH readers know induces the best, strongest, and most loving ‘gina tingles.

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    • on January 23, 2013 at 11:41 pm Jason

      Cosigned. I internalized this stuff a long time ago.

      One of the mental attitudes holding men back from climbing to this alpha plateau is the fear of being disliked. What people think of you should be utterly irrelevant (*brushes lint off shoulder*). The goal is to be INTERESTING without falling into dancing monkey territory. After that, let the chips fall where they may.

      It’s autonomy, gentlemen.

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  5. on January 23, 2013 at 4:59 pm ZMBIKLR

    Asking information about her = beta
    Asking about how she thinks = alpha

    Asking information means you’ve already decided she’s the girl of your masturbatory dreams, which she’ll of course find revolting.

    When I ask a girl how she thinks, I’m putting her on notice that she’s still in the qualification process.

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    • on January 24, 2013 at 12:50 pm Anonymous

      What do you think about getting naked with your soul mate?

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 9:41 pm Zmbiklr

        L

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  6. on January 23, 2013 at 5:02 pm logicwontgetmelaid

    Exactly the kind of post I needed this week.

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  7. on January 23, 2013 at 5:07 pm AlphaBeta

    Again, I would say that one should never take a girl seriously; she always exists just for your entertainment. Those 7 questions are both too serious and no one would care about that crap outside of some stuffy networking event at work.

    Make up some shit just to laugh (silently) at her reaction, or ask questions you might actually care about (e.g. how do you feel about grammar mistakes?, though that should be asked at the right moment). You can even make up some cold-reading-esque bullshit behind asking a weird question that you can use her answer to neg her or build some rapport.

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  8. on January 23, 2013 at 5:25 pm Anon

    LOL

    I used to ask the 7 questions in a row.

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    • on January 24, 2013 at 4:09 pm Ace Haley

      Me too lmao

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      • on January 29, 2013 at 10:59 am Adam

        Me three, buddies. High five!

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  9. on January 23, 2013 at 5:36 pm taterearl

    “Don’t be boring. Don’t be a suck-up.”

    Amazing how some of the best advice is simple.

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  10. on January 23, 2013 at 5:38 pm JironGhrad

    I’ve been doing this particular thing for quite a while as a solid technique to attract “quality girls”. It also works to wreck those pseudo-intellectual girls when you ask them to ask you a difficult question like that. Most can’t manage even one good question.

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    • on January 24, 2013 at 8:51 pm Kate

      Well, sometimes a guy does make ya dumbstruck, ya know? Its a good thing to be speechless 🙂

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 10:17 pm JironGhrad

        Pseudo-intellectual… girls who think that because they went to this college or work in that field make them the pinnacle of womanly intellect. Girls who can’t manage to put together an intelligent question after I’ve asked her three or four aren’t worth keeping around for the long-term, and a huge percentage of those supposedly “smart” girls really can’t keep up.

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 10:59 pm Kate

        Take it as a compliment. If she’s attracted to you, a woman can’t think and feel at the same time. Under normal circumstances a woman might be very intelligent indeed, but under pressure she might crumble.

        But there is something to the idea that many of us have inflated opinions our our own intelligence. Every day I’m learning just how stupid I actuallly am! I haven’t actually changed; I’ve just become more humbled by the learning other people have.

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      • on January 25, 2013 at 9:58 am JironGhrad

        Inflated self-opinions come from the system, where everyone gets a trophy and colleges are all about the funding. It used to be (and not even that long ago) that high school was to teach you what you need to know to become a productive member of society and college was to teach you to think for yourself. Of course, now… colleges are the leading cause of the economic disaster we call modern day politics.

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  11. on January 23, 2013 at 5:45 pm Yellow Kid

    Haha after I asked two of the Stale Seven while we were picking up girls at the waterpark in seventh grade, my much more charismatic friend pulled me aside and smacked me upside the head after he sent our girls to buy us ice cream. Wise man.

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  12. on January 23, 2013 at 5:55 pm taterearl

    So in other words don’t be like this.

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  13. on January 23, 2013 at 5:57 pm Uncle Elmer

    R.Don Steele advises men not to answer “why” questions.

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    • on January 23, 2013 at 8:00 pm Revo Luzione

      Correction: don’t answer them directly, nor with a straight face. Whatever you say, the cocky smirk is mandatory.

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  14. on January 23, 2013 at 6:02 pm Dr. Zoidberg

    I like how “game” keeps validating what has just come naturally to me. I did speed dating twice while in law school with the neighboring medical school. Basically it was just an excuse for my buddy and I to get drunk and lie to girls. (I had rolled my ankle the day before so was hopped up on pain pills and booze and kept telling girls that a moose had charged me (girls are dumb))

    The first two or three broads it was these same boring questions followed by 3 minutes of shitty awkwardness as we basically gave our resumes. As soon as I started leading with “Hello ______, if you were an amusement park ride, what amusement park ride would you be?” I noticed that the girls became much more into the “speed date”. Sometimes the girl would ask “aren’t you going to ask me what I do?” to which I would just give a “no” or a “that’s third date question.”

    I still do it when I go out and meet new ladies. “What food would you be?” What super power would you have?” Works like a charm.

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  15. on January 23, 2013 at 6:25 pm BetaForLife

    ‘its a perfect day for a bananafish…’

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  16. on January 23, 2013 at 6:59 pm Days of Broken Arrows

    This is really good advice. And it works.

    Back in my natural Alpha days (17-21), I would deliberately engage women in absurdist convos just to mess with them. I got the rep as a bit weird (NOT “creepy” weird, because I was always with beautiful women and cute myself), but they didn’t forget me and knew who I was around the dorms.

    I’d start talking to women I didn’t know in the college dining hall about whether an ice cream sandwich counted as a meal. No? What about cereal? It has all the vitamins! Love those Golden Grahams. And what’s with Wilford Brimley and oatmeal?

    People would be surprised at how this can be stretched into a long surreal dialogue with massive sexual tension and subtext. This can even start in one place and pick up the next week at a party, with the two people never knowing each other’s names. It’s much better than “what’s your major?” Bleh.

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    • on January 23, 2013 at 7:12 pm Kate

      Cereal is always a good banter topic 🙂 The last time I was on match was two years ago. I was not using a picture, but I mailed back and forth with this guy about what aisle granola was in as a riff on my headline that said I was looking for a man who would dance in the grocery store. Just recently he popped up in my matches and I messaged him to see if he’d found it yet. TWO YEARS LATER he still remembered the conversation (even though he’d never seen my face) as well as the fact that there was a bet involved. If I was correct about what aisle the granola was in he had to help me replace lightbulbs and if he was right I was supposed to paint his garage. Well, after two years the mystery concluded. I lost the bet but he FINALLY asked for my number.

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      • on January 23, 2013 at 7:42 pm Matthew King (King A)

        Cereal is always a good banter topic.

        Cutesy-wootsy. Maybe it works for silly girls, but groaners aren’t worth it. You don’t want to be the fairy guy who talks like he’s addressing children.

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      • on January 23, 2013 at 8:05 pm Kate

        Groaners as in “It would cost you a groaning to take off my edge”?

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 11:16 am Matthew King (King A)

        That’s just it, though. It doesn’t always take off the edge. If you are too quirky you make new edges by causing consternation/confusion. It’s a balance (I wrote about it above, but it’s in moderation).

        Quirkiness works when you’ve laid the groundwork for expectation. Dry wit is rarely successful when a person doesn’t know you — that person takes you at face value, rather than as that guy who’s always joking. The calibration is key, and our first interactions with strangers are perhaps 90% earnest to 10% possibility for irony, which can only be taken advantage of by a very refined approach, until she knows to look for the twinkle in your eye.

        Matt

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 11:32 am Kate

        That’s probably a good point. (Proving it is the fact the above was a Hamlet reference.)

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 12:14 pm Matthew King (King A)

        Well done. I missed the reference.

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      • on January 23, 2013 at 9:00 pm immoralgables

        Lol Matt how does it feel to be banned from Alpha Game Plan

        Screw the seven questions, I could see you plying girls with your bombastic quips and long-winded banter from your ivory tower.

        Now preach, my boy!

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      • on January 23, 2013 at 9:50 pm Kate

        King’s been getting into trouble again? Ooh he is such a bad boy. I don’t know why you guys mock. Is there anyone else in the universe who can pull off the Bad Boy Christian? I’m skeptical.

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 8:58 am YaReally

        http://alphagameplan.blogspot.ca/2013/01/banning-matt-aka-king-a.html

        Holy epic lol. Greg, get in there quick!!

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 11:23 am Kate

        What a joke. Like he’d fn care about being banned.

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 11:27 am Matthew King (King A)

        Complete.

        I know this stuff is hard for guys like you, but try to appreciate the irony of an author banning dissent in the very discussion where he congratulates himself for a discourse characterized by “confidence, originality, agonism, independence of thought, creativity, assertiveness, the mastery of one’s feelings, a thick skin and high tolerance for your own and others’ discomfort.” Facta non verba. His actions demonstrated my point for me.

        Dissent. Dissident. Now where else did I see that idea recently honored?

        Matt

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 11:00 am Matthew King (King A)

        Hi, stalker. Thanks for the update. It’s not the first place I’ve been banned from for refusing to eat shit from a guy like you but with a blog. It is however the first time I got a whole dedicated post about why he felt it necessary to ban me. I’d be proud if he were a respectable thinker, but let’s face it, he’s a sci-fi dork who proclaims himself an expert on all things, including “socio-sexual hierarchies” and game.

        It was a decent site in concept: he originally had co-bloggers (including Susan Walsh from “Hooking Up Smart,” a site for girls) contributing, which should have been lively. but it quickly devolved into his solitary, anodyne pontifications and spaz wars with other sci-fi writers, a fantasy author fantasizing to himself about his own manliness. He contributes little to the broad conversation. I would drop in occasionally to tweak him, rile up his audience of inexplicable admirers, and leave. You would fit right in among them, sniping and snarking and nipping at the heels of better men.

        Quietly shunting aside a problem-commenter or moderating him heavily is the more prudent way to go. This tool is so unaware of his own powerlessness that not only did I force him to take the most extreme measure — his only option, being unable to neutralize with rhetoric, deleting the entries and commenters he has no answer to — but he then goes on to make a big fuss about how awesome he is for having done so, to the applause of his toadies.

        See, if unreconstructed nerds like Vox Day are looked to as leaders for a renaissance of manhood, you all are fucked.

        Matt

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 1:19 pm gunslingergregi

        kind of feel the same way i realize woman have no power over me if i am willing to kill and die so just be a man and prob better to live in feminism cause with the dudes that are trying to step up even like the mens rights dudes all your gonna have is still having to bow down to woman and pay child support if you have no balls but on top of that they will also be shitting on you.
        At least feminism brings with it better working conditions for men too. All ya gt with manboobs is crap.

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 1:36 pm Jason

        I laughed at the commenter who wrote that you came off as “comically pompous”. Dead on. The unyieldingly egotastic sermons grow tiresome.

        If you want to write those, you really should start your own blog instead. Oh wait, I forgot … running a blog isn’t “manly” because it doesn’t consist of “men exchanging things of value under a contract”.

        Looks like you’ll have to write a book instead. Oh wait, I forgot … two-thirds of all purchased books are done so by women.

        Looks like you’ll have to pull an Emily Dickinson. Lock those screeds in a drawer and hope for a Kepler to follow your Copernicus.

        See, anyone can play the obscure allusion game.

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 3:20 pm Anon

        “Comically pompous”

        LOL lefty faggot.

        I’d like to see more guys only half as pompous as him. All the fanboys in that shithole of a blog, instead of miring the aesthetics of King A like any sane curious person, should at least have the decency to shut the fuck up when he talks because none of them has the prestige/knowledge/style to confront him.

        Very few guys on the manosphere can have interesting conversations with King A. Most of us can only troll him once in a while with innocuous jokes or lame ass retorts (yours in particular).

        I don’t know if it’s been said before, but King A, along with others, is the pride of the manosphere. His haters can eat shit and die like all the haters before them.

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 3:48 pm yeahokcool

        @ anon 1. “All the fanboys in that shithole of a blog” 2. “King A… is the pride of the manosphere”

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 6:51 pm PetiteOlive

        you gotta admit its pretty alpha to have a whole blog post dedicated to banning you AND have more than 60 comments of followers writing about it. Obviously the dissent must have hurt said blog poster and his followers to the very core for them to use all that energy to address you. Pretty hilarious actually….”But I am just one man”. lol

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 10:03 pm YaReally

        From that guy: “Notice here three of the distinguishing features of a rabbit. He simply can’t imagine that everything isn’t about him.”

        King A: “not only did I force him to take the most extreme measure”

        From that guy: “More importantly he can’t imagine someone taking an action that isn’t rooted in how it will look to others.”

        King A: “he then goes on to make a big fuss about how awesome he is for having done so, to the applause of his toadies.”

        From that guy: “And while his words superficially appear to make sense, they are fundamentally nonsensical”

        King A: (pretty much 90% of every one of his comments)

        lol’ed.

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 11:35 pm Jason

        Then again, banishment will just contribute to his megalomaniacal complex. After all, exile was the punishment of choice for Napoleon, Nicholas II, Idi Amin, Marcos, and Mobutu, among others.

        Rigid authoritarians, one and all. I’m seeing a pattern here.

        (strokes chin thoughtfully)

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      • on January 25, 2013 at 4:42 am Matthew King (King A)

        I laughed at the commenter who wrote that you came off as “comically pompous”. Dead on. The unyieldingly egotastic sermons grow tiresome.

        You must be unfamiliar with the work of one who styles himself as Vox Dei (or “voice of God”), which defines the term comic pomposity. I will admit to shading into that territory, but I do it on purpose and for effect. He does it out of simple self-unawareness.

        For instance, he cites his membership in Mensa unironically as a regular talking point — laughing in his face for this was one reason he censored and then banned me. Somewhere on his site he also characterizes himself a “superintelligence,” and anyone who calls his bluff 1) is ridiculed with names and terminologies he invents on the spot, 2) is hissed at by a mob of clueless commenters, and 3) is eventually blocked from further engagement once it is clear the moderator-author is outmatched. And my comments he took exception to criticized the posts where he bragged about how much better his peanut gallery was compared to other dork discourses online from which he was banned.

        I know he reads this site, but he won’t pop his head into a place where he can’t control the commentary.

        Finally — if you think my observations are risible — at least I didn’t invent a Klingon language of brand new social categories to add to the community standard of “alpha,” “beta,” and “omega.” You see, he needed a whole new classification to define himself that’s like alpha, only cooler and more brooding and solitary, such as Marlon Brando or Clint Eastwood.

        Look, there is some degree of showmanship online. It’s how we get people to pay notice. We have to paint in broad strokes and vivid colors, we often work in the mode of absurdity because subtlety is lost in crowds. But the proof of rhetorical worth is exposed when we cut to the quick, when the readership is focused on the substance, when all the attention-getting devices are no longer needed, and it is just argument versus argument. My opponents avoid getting to the heart of the matter by fixating on modes of rhetoric rather than substance. Which is an indication of their unwillingness to truly mix it up.

        Of course I indulge in comic pomposity, i.e., intentionally absurd overstatements not unlike the author of this site. But the key difference is awareness. Does the author deploy his absurd self-regard as a rhetorical device, or is he doing it because he believes his own press? Not only does that chump-with-a-free-website believe his own press, he writes it and then is duped by it.

        Having an ego is fine and even encouraged online. But being “comically” unaware of the value of your contribution just makes you a big fat target, especially to people like me who derive no sense of self-worth from positive or negative internet attention and can wield a sharp pen. So instead of constantly trying to shift the discussion to how a person is speaking and how his manner makes you feel, try engaging him with your own stylistic flair. You would have a better chance to nullify him, and you wouldn’t have to depend on fantasies of censorship to pretend your side prevailed.

        Matt

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      • on January 25, 2013 at 4:50 am Matthew King (King A)

        pretty much 90% of every one of his comments

        “Pretty much” = near but not quite 100%
        of
        “90%” = 90%
        of
        “every one” = 100%
        of
        “his comments”

        Let’s do some algebra and simplify that lurching rollercoaster of an expression to “about 85% of his comments.”

        Stick with me, son. You talk pretty one day.

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      • on January 25, 2013 at 10:27 am gunslingergregi

        king a
        i am your father
        kind of cool watching you grow up on this blog

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      • on January 25, 2013 at 2:20 pm Jason

        “….comic pomposity. I will admit to shading into that territory, but I do it on purpose and for effect…”

        Ah, so your “pedantically overinflated gasbag” persona is but a ruse. Well played, then. To many readers, that is simply what you *are* (no irony, no subtext). See, Matt, the Interwebs doesn’t transmit things like tone of voice or hand gestures which might otherwise disabuse us of that.

        If that’s not your intention, try a bit of self-deprecation once in a while. I’ve had to develop that skill myself. It works wonders.

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      • on January 25, 2013 at 7:04 pm guy dudebro

        what does this have to do with insemination of a womans rectum? heh

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      • on January 26, 2013 at 9:07 am yaser

        Gonna quote the awesome parts of a post above:

        “LOL lefty faggot.

        I’d like to see more guys only half as pompous as him. All the fanboys in that shithole of a blog, instead of miring the aesthetics of King A like any sane curious person, should at least have the decency to shut the fuck up when he talks because none of them has the prestige/knowledge/style to confront him.

        Very few guys on the manosphere can have interesting conversations with King A. Most of us can only troll him once in a while with innocuous jokes or lame ass retorts (yours in particular).

        I don’t know if it’s been said before, but King A, along with others, is the pride of the manosphere. His haters can eat shit and die like all the haters before them.”

        O damn, i just quoted the whole thing…

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 10:40 am taterearl

        “Cutesy-wootsy. Maybe it works for silly girls, but groaners aren’t worth it. You don’t want to be the fairy guy who talks like he’s addressing children.”

        Yeah I know I see a woman getting all interested when I talk about the economy. She loves I know everything about politics. Nothing gets her imagination going like talking about scientific journals.

        I can’t believe the bored looks I get when talking about Disney princesses, which colognes smell the best, or how I came up with my cool high five.

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 11:07 am Matthew King (King A)

        Did I say “talk about the economy”? There is a whole range of hamster prods between serious topics and ga-ga-goo-goo baby talk. The quirky “Aren’t I Random With Capital Letter R?!?!” questions come across as trying too hard.

        Matt

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 11:25 am taterearl

        Cereal talk in a college dining hall is a random quirky question to address children???

        To me that’s using the environment to your advantage.

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 11:32 am Matthew King (King A)

        We are talking about different things. Life isn’t a Seinfeld episode just waiting to happen, and the temperature of the situation doesn’t always afford the opportunity for quirk. Forcing it makes it backfire.

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 11:35 am Kate

        All this cereal talk is getting surreal. Seriously though, King, you should really be writing for Firepower where your talents will be appreciated.

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 11:42 am Matthew King (King A)

        Cerealously.

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 1:34 pm gunslingergregi

        i like baby talk it fun and coming up with diferent names for shit

        and when my chick uses my language instead oh her own think it makes us closer

        especially when she uses it with other people and they like huh
        prob got around a 100 diferent nicknames for my chick

        my chick wants to know if softilocks or fuzzyhead would be considered baby talk lolzzzzzzzzzzz

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 4:28 pm gunslingergregi

        allthough that is with chicks i have fucked though he he he

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 6:40 pm anonymous

        “Seriously though, King, you should really be writing for Firepower where your talents will be appreciated.”

        Seriously. Do not cast your pearls before swine, and all that.

        Matt, why you continue to engage the dangerously stupid carnival monkeys who make up this blog’s readership is absolutely beyond me. You really, really [REALLY] need your own blog.

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      • on January 23, 2013 at 9:14 pm YaReally

        “I would deliberately engage women in absurdist convos just to mess with them.”

        This works (I do it too, I like to use sexual topics too) because you’re self-amusing. When you talk about cereal it’s not because you think that’s a “good banter topic”, it’s because you’re fucking around entertaining yourself and that sub-communication is what’s attractive to them, whether you’re talking about cereal, the Kardashians, rocket science, World of Warcraft, etc.

        Kate’s comment of it being a good banter topic is a good example of missing the sub-communication. She’s committing the same error of logic that newbies to pickup commit, where she places the power on the words and topic themselves instead of on the sub-communications. To her she comes out of the interaction thinking cereal is a good banter topic when in reality she isn’t aware that she was responding to the sub-communication of her interaction.

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      • on January 23, 2013 at 9:25 pm Scray

        Sup Ya…dropped another FR here https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/01/21/the-modern-sexual-market-in-a-picture/#comment-405406

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      • on January 25, 2013 at 1:14 am YaReally

        Wrote a few replies and a long-ass FR analysis for ya, the FR is in moderation so check for it before you head out Friday night. Main things incase it don’t show up are qualify the chick in your “I love you” routines (make her qualify, let her pass, then love her for passing), and drop in some sexual stuff like in my previous FR analysis.

        Good luck!

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      • on January 23, 2013 at 9:29 pm Scray

        Dropped a FR in the ‘portrait of modern SMP’ thread below. I think if I paste the link, wordpress will take a long time to filter it.

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      • on January 23, 2013 at 10:10 pm YaReally

        Cool, I’ll check it out after I finish my work shit for the day. Check tomorrow sometime!

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      • on January 23, 2013 at 9:43 pm Kate

        Actually, I agree with you that the topic of conversation is irrelevant. Its not what you talk about but the way you talk about it. (And just for clarity, I was the one running this interaction. Not too many people can lead me in a conversation 🙂 And forget about dancing!)

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    • on January 23, 2013 at 7:56 pm Rick Derris

      Wilford Brimley?!? +1

      He creeped me out in The Thing when I was a kid.

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      • on January 23, 2013 at 9:25 pm FredMertz

        I once met him at a hotel I and some friends were staying at in the late 80’s. We wound up talking in the sauna. He tried to touch me. You know–there.

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 1:21 am Rick Derris

        I have to ask …

        Fred Mertz from “I Love Lucy,” or Fred Mertz from “Porklips Now?”

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  17. on January 23, 2013 at 7:13 pm Jules

    Love this one, CH.

    Personal experience:

    I’ve actually opened up girls by asking their preference between pancakes and waffles. They just won’t shut up after you get them started on food-talk.
    Tweak it to your interests. It’s easier to keep the ball rolling.

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    • on January 23, 2013 at 11:43 pm Jason

      I never got more female attention than the one Halloween night when I dressed up as a piece of food.

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  18. on January 23, 2013 at 7:22 pm Matthew King (King A)

    I dunno. You can make the seven questions work. In a policeman interrogating his perp kind of way. Whip out the pen and pad. Work on the I can read your body language minutely look.

    After every answer, a muted “hmm…” or “interesting…”

    Question 8: Anal?

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    • on January 25, 2013 at 9:42 am Kate

      Or, if you’re on the phone, say, “Uh huh, uh huh” and tell her you’re entering her responses into your spreadsheet. This is very amusing.

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  19. on January 23, 2013 at 7:23 pm Scray

    I never thought about this before. Next time I go out, I’m going to try and apply this.

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  20. on January 23, 2013 at 7:29 pm Anonymous

    “Brevity cues the glow of clits.”

    hahaha brilliant

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  21. on January 23, 2013 at 7:31 pm Afonso Henriques

    What’s up! Just made a comment on how the why shit doesn’t work!

    Ah Fuck it!

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    • on January 23, 2013 at 7:44 pm Dr. Zoidberg

      Any comment I make is usually awaiting moderation for 24-48 hours. Not sure how people have discussions on this thing.

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  22. on January 23, 2013 at 7:34 pm Afonso Henriques

    It doesn’t generate attraction.

    [Heartiste: Yes, it does. Think about how the typical cute girl views 95% of the men she sees in her life on a weekly basis. They are invisible to her. She is indifferent to them. Are they all ugly to her? Instant turn-offs? No. But they have given her no reason to find them attractive men worthy of her feminine attention. The man who steps up to the plate and takes a successful swing will generate atttraction, real physical attraction, in women, because women are as attracted to boldness and charm in men as men are attracted to T&A in women.]

    It merely make the girls who are already faintly attracted to continue curious.

    [So now the mgtow crowd has moved the goalposts from “attracted” to “faintly attracted”. Did you know most girls are capable of being “faintly attracted” to the majority of men, if those men would just walk up and demonstrate some courage and social savvy?]

    It doesn’t work in new girls, unless we’re in a group and they run the risk of looking bad by not responding.

    [It works on new girls, too. Do you live in a burrow?]

    Most (intelligent) girls will feel bothered for not being able to answer.

    [This is the whiny negativity of a weak man. Chicks despise weak men. Chicks love men who shake them out of their boring routines.]

    I do it and the girls complain that I am trying to get inside their heads…

    [Form matters.]

    Appart from the why shit, it’s a great post, motherfucker.

    [Yaha. It’s a good bet you’re trolling. If so, I have to ask, why bother? Why?]

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    • on January 23, 2013 at 7:38 pm Days of Broken Arrows

      No, it does generate attraction. Curiosity = attraction. Make a woman curious and she’s interested.

      Granted, if you’re totally wacked out and 400 pounds this won’t work. But I assume the audience here is reasonably together guys who need a little extra edge to compete for the better women.

      Anyway, if you see my comment above, I did this in college and it did work. I will say it all came crashing down when I entered the workplace and encountered humorless, politically correct “co-workers” but that’s a story for a different time.

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    • on January 23, 2013 at 7:50 pm happycrow

      If there’s actually *zero* attraction, then the chemistry is wrong, and the sex is probably going to be shit anyway.

      Pheromones are foundational; it’s what one does *after* that which makes all the difference.

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    • on January 23, 2013 at 11:06 pm PetiteOlive

      I guess it depends on the girl but i think it could generate attraction if the girl is used to getting asked the seven stale….a lot. This is analogous to the “boring girls” post and whether the girl on a date is bored (with you) or just plain boring in general. If a girl is used to men asking the seven stale she is probably expecting the next guy approaching her to regurgitate one of the 7s and it puts her in a pretty bored/unreceptive frame.

      In a typical social scenario, said girl has been hit on maybe 7-9 times before you arrive at the scene and (from personal experience) heard some rendition/version of those 7….she’s already bored out of her mind at that point. You approach her and if she’s not stoosh will allow you to get some words in, I can almost guarantee you that if you start asking her “why” qs and she is capable of conversing, she would perk right up! Sure she will “complain” that you are trying to get inside her head….I say that too in a joking manner “I feel like you’re trying to get a read on me *giggle*” but in most instances….trust me, interest is piqued and the boredom diminishes!

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 9:03 am Afonso Henriques

        Olive,

        You really do think that bangable girls don’t have enough fun in their lives that it would be oh so amusing to them to merely not being asked the 7 questions?

        Of course not!

        Not asking the seven questions does not make her go “yeah, this guy did not ask me that, I am super aroused!”.

        It merely makes her go “ok… this guy is not as beta as I expected”.

        But I agree with not asking those questions, what I think does not work as well as advertised here, is the asking of why.

        I mostly agree with you… but regarding the questions of why… my expirience tells me it’s better to avoid asking why directly and to find indirect ways for her to answer me why.

        Quick ideas:

        Girl – I can’t stop quiet!
        Me – Why?
        Girl – (Fuck, I’m so bored) Why do you want to know / What does it matter / Because

        Girl – I can’t stop quiet!
        Me – It looks as if you have sitten in top of a scorpion.
        Girl – (lauging) You stupid! No… it’s just that … (explains whatever she wants to explain)

        Girl – I’, tired this day was so tiresome
        Me – Why?
        Girl – Nevermind, I don’t want to talk about it

        Girl – I’m tired, this day was so tiresome
        Me .- Yeah, I bet your Royal princess ass has a lot of reasons to be tired
        Girl – (shocked, hitting me) You jackass! No, seriously… I did this and that and that happaned…

        I just have found out that the why does not work for me, and that I will be called out for “wanting to get into their heads”.
        I think it’s probabily the same for most people too… I’m just trying to present a better alternative. Why questioning seldomly works.

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 9:19 am immoralgables

        Thank you for mentally masturbating in this thread.

        – No One

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 9:47 am taterearl

        I think the why questioning is when she states an opinion on a matter…not questioning why she feels a certain emotion.

        She likes a certain place, activity, etc. A why can extract a ton of info to be used down the line in conversations.

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 10:01 am immoralgables

        This guy gets it

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      • on January 25, 2013 at 11:49 am Afonso Henriques

        Well thought.

        But still, I think that… I don’t know, I think it is useful to ask them why on their emotions… but without doing it directly.

        It creates some attraction, it makes her think and she will like you for it.

        My problem is that you also need to be fun while doing this and ignore eventual shit coming in. I may be somewhat fun, but usually, with me, they know I’m judging, which is bad.

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 10:27 am PetiteOlive

        @ Alfonso, pretty much what taterearl said, but like I said it depends on the girl and her interest in wanting to have the conversation. I personally think asking why in regards to how she “feels” is beta but in regards to explaining their opinions most cute chicks are use to men agreeing with whatever crazy opinion they have, when you ask why she holds an opinion (e.g. Girl: I think republicans are….Guy: and why do you think that.) it signals that you are curious enough to understand her point of view and it builds rapport. I am not saying it will instantly lead to some wild sex, but she will hardly dismiss you. At the end of the day girls are emotional creatures and we link emotions into eveeeeerything even when discussing beliefs/opinions when a girl has vehemently defended or explained why she holds an opinion she is feeling a phlethora of emotions in her head..she might feel vulnerable, excited, fragile….you can tap on that emotion to lead to something else. It is a delicate balance though between eliciting the aforesaid emotions vs. making her feel like insecure or stupid….ummmm but then again…it could be kind of the same as negging

        P.s. apologies if I am not making sense. Started a ketogenic diet and I am kind of feeling lightheaded :s

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      • on January 25, 2013 at 5:22 am Matthew King (King A)

        Why?

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      • on January 25, 2013 at 10:13 am PetiteOlive

        lol

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      • on January 25, 2013 at 2:28 pm Afonso Henriques

        You make perfect sense, and I agree with you holeheartedly.

        However, I usually don’t do it because I will get high on my words and fall into a logical disscussion which is toxic for pick up. And most often I will feel her reasons to think what she thinks utterly unsuferable and futile. And it is not always that I have the lightness of spirit to tease her and neg her about it or pretend that I accept that. Mainly because it’s not congruent with me.

        You know what you’re talking about though.

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      • on January 26, 2013 at 2:50 pm Matthew King (King A)

        I agree with all the cute chicks hole-hardedly.

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      • on January 26, 2013 at 3:05 pm Matthew King (King A)

        PetiteOlive guessed:

        when you ask why she holds an opinion (e.g. Girl: I think republicans are….Guy: and why do you think that.) it signals that you are curious enough to understand her point of view and it builds rapport.

        Or …

        It’s how a man passes that particular shit test. Don’t imagine we are “curious enough” about how lightheaded bimbos who fancy themselves smart derive their political positions.

        Rather than signal an appreciation of her intelligence (as you imply), the better approach is adversarial. True, “most cute chicks are used to men agreeing with whatever crazy opinion they have,” which is why confronting her with the “why” hammer is the sign that you see through her superficial bravado with regard to subjects she doesn’t know — and deep down knows she doesn’t know.

        We are made to tussle with the opposite sex until the woman surrenders with a sigh. Your red herrings of “understand[ing]” and “rapport” denies the possibility of a sweet struggle, with the man preemptively surrendering. Imagine a cooperative man treating your opinions earnestly. Do you honestly find that attractive in a primal sense, or is it what you tell yourself you should find attractive? Isn’t he just another version of an herb “agreeing with whatever crazy opinion [you] have,” you know, once-removed from the one you rejected as common or boring? This won’t be the last time your PetiteBrain contradicts your PetitePussy. Follow the throb, not the headache you mistake for a thought.

        Matt

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      • on January 25, 2013 at 5:15 am Matthew King (King A)

        I’m just trying to present a better alternative. Why questioning seldomly works.

        All you presented is how awkward you are at the art of conversation. We can grade on a curve because of your apparent ESL handicap, but you mistake a failure of personal style for a failure of principle.

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    • on January 25, 2013 at 5:10 am Matthew King (King A)

      How is this comment “tradcon/mgtow”? (From the tweet.)

      I was all geared up to defend it, but it turns out to be one more pedestalization of “intelligent girls” and how they “will feel.” Is that what you think traditional conservatives think about women?

      If girls “complain that” a guy is “trying to get inside [her] head[]” he is doing it wrong. He’s not really in her head at all, and his attempts at artistry are so obvious that they register consciously in her mind. The trick is to keep your seams from showing. Oh, and also: they want you to “get inside their heads.” It’s a whole penetrator/penetrated thing.

      So check yourself first. Maybe it’s as simple as: she just doesn’t want to be penetrated by someone so clumsy.

      Matt

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      • on January 25, 2013 at 2:44 pm Afonso Henriques

        Good comment.

        This also explains why so many girls react so positively to this kinds of mental penetrations in private, but cut me off when in a group.

        But King A, I was expecting more from you.
        How to improve?

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      • on January 26, 2013 at 3:20 pm Matthew King (King A)

        If you’re really in her head, you’re really in her head. In a group her reactions are more pronounced because she is on stage, and she will seek to reassert control over them by cutting you off. But that revs the hamster wheel even harder, internalizing the struggle for the shame of acknowledging to her friends that you are all up inside her. If you’re really in her head, that is, and not just “trying to get” there with lame, stock-PUA tricks (which are meant as an assist to more masterly improvisations).

        How do you improve? By not being so clumsy. Just like dancing. Practice a lot, push through your mistakes.

        But in general, it’s all about frame. Who is the boss here? Who deserves command of the situation, you or her? Even she agrees it should not be her, and she resents the people who give her the responsibility of control — though, importantly, she cannot consciously acknowledge this. If you keep that simple (if verboten) reality in mind, I don’t see how you can even wander into awkward circumstances, and if by chance you do, 90% of those clumsy situations can be transformed instantly into victories. With the right frame.

        Matt

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  23. on January 23, 2013 at 7:39 pm BetaForLife

    JD Salinger was the king of this.

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  24. on January 23, 2013 at 7:57 pm Blackdragon

    Men who ask questions like this are either hardcore betas or just guys who don’t have any real experience meeting women. Once you go on 25 first dates or so, even complete numskulls learn very fast these questions get you no where.

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    • on January 23, 2013 at 8:12 pm YaReally

      Holy shit, is that the actual Blackdragon? I’ve linked your writing/books on here a bunch lol. Been a fan of your posts for a long time, props!

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      • on January 23, 2013 at 8:42 pm Blackdragon

        Yeah it’s me. I don’t think I’ve ever commented here but his list of questions was so quintessential I couldn’t resist.

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      • on January 23, 2013 at 9:04 pm YaReally

        lol a lot of the guys here can really use your material/books (they’re an older “looking to settle” crowd compared to the young PUA types), but unfortunately most of them would never actually try to apply it because it’s all still just “theory” in their minds. Most guys here have only just recently taken the pill coming from monogamous relationships, vs coming from a pickup mindset of abundance where your stuff gels nicely with experience.

        For those who don’t know him Blackdragon is one of the top dogs on relationship game and managing mLTRs, Nexting shitty behavior, setting solid relationship frames from the start, etc. Can’t recommend his posts/articles/etc enough. Do some Googling, especially if you have trouble with falling into betaization once you get into relationships.

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      • on January 23, 2013 at 9:21 pm immoralgables

        For the lazy:

        DRAMA FREE
        http://www.pua-zone.com/showthread.php?2929-How-to-have-a-100-DRAMA-FREE-Relationship&p=25144&viewfull=1#post25144

        SOFT NEXT
        http://www.pua-zone.com/showthread.php?5492-How-To-Soft-Next-Step-by-step-instructions-and-answers-to-questions

        Props to YR (and BD) for posting these a few months ago. The soft next post helped me with this girl I’m seeing over Xmas and the withdrawal of attention is lethal.

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      • on January 26, 2013 at 9:29 am yaser

        Thanks for the tip, appreciated.

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 11:47 am Sidewinder

        I would really be interested in reading your stuff. I’m a mid-30s professional looking for quality, family-orientated girls in their mid to late 20s. I have completely lost any motivation to go to bars and pickup girls 18-22.

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      • on January 25, 2013 at 5:27 am Matthew King (King A)

        no such thing lol their all sluts you need to go out and get laid bro lol

        — YaReally

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      • on January 26, 2013 at 10:28 pm YaReally

        Last night I banged a 30yo super-religious (Jesus paintings hanging in her room and says her prayers every night before bed no joke lol) Good Girl EE virgin (bloody cock, pain, religiousness and general inexperience on her part backed the virgin claim up) who’s only lived here a few years, telling her up front that I’m not going to date her or be her boyfriend and that I’m sketchy and she shouldn’t waste her virginity on a guy like me.

        She waited 30 years. Took me 4 hours from meet to lay. She was only at the bar for her friend who didn’t show up. Total cold approach. Used Direct Game.

        The guy she marries one day will think she’s a Madonna because she’s only had sex once. All it takes is creating the right circumstances (non-judgement, good emotions, etc.) and some solid Game.

        To paraphrase the Joker in The Killing Joke: “All it takes is one solid seduction to reduce the most reserved woman alive to a whore. That’s how far the Madonnas of the world are from where the whores are. Just one solid seduction.”

        But keep chasing that unicorn. Make sure you lock her in your basement so she can’t interact with any of the better men in the world for the rest of her life when you meet her. lol

        (for the record she’s a cool chick, would definitely hook up with her again but I have a feeling her extreme religiousness will make her feel guilty about the whole thing (ASD trigger) so I probably won’t hear from her again)

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      • on January 27, 2013 at 4:26 pm Matthew King (King A)

        Are you on an estrogen regimen? You use female logic. Argument by anecdote. It’s true everywhere because I saw it once myself. You think with your cunt.

        Even so, you provide anecdotal evidence against the very point you were trying to make.

        Last night I banged a 30yo super-religious (Jesus paintings hanging in her room and says her prayers every night before bed no joke lol) Good Girl EE virgin

        Okay. So you met a woman who retained her virginity straight through the decade of her sexual prime out of religious dedication. “She waited 30 years.” In other words you found the “unicorn” that you claim doesn’t exist?

        But keep chasing that unicorn. Make sure you lock her in your basement so she can’t interact with any of the better men in the world for the rest of her life when you meet her. lol

        Keep lolling, you bobble-headed spaz. You expect us to accept your tall tales when you contradict yourself within the space of several sentences?

        You expect us to believe a hot 30-year-old virgin saved herself her entire adult life, only to be plied apart by your devastating PUA-manual charm? It makes sense only if she’s a whale. If she were a hot Christian girl, she would have either lapsed or gotten married by thirty. Or do you expect us to believe your game is so much tighter than every man she ever met before from age 16-30, that only you could solve her riddle, and in four hours flat? You’re not just a liar, you’re a moronic liar. The only way you could be telling the truth would be if she were fat and foul and hit the wall hard. Then pardon me and congratulations, smooth operator, she gave her precious “flower” to the first chode who paid attention to her after a decade-and-a-half of mounting sexual frustration. So either you just made it all up, or you have exaggerated her SMV.

        No fucking shit hypergamous women lapse all the time, purity rings notwithstanding. This is not a newsflash, Dollar Store Lothario. A sheltered, defenseless girl naïve about her own sexuality betrays her principles to a predator who obsessively studies which are the right buttons to push? This is your big revelation?

        The vulnerability of women with regard to their sexuality was never the issue. It is not remarkable that you (claim you) sexualized a lonely spinster holding out from the sexual culture without any payoff, left to contemplate her remaining years as an old maid. Women have always needed protection from themselves at every age. We are the advocates of forcefully protecting them so that they don’t squander their greatest asset on a clueless putz like you after one too many cosmos. You are the fantasist who imagines the very idea impossible, despite 10,000 years of human cultural history of which you are proudly unaware.

        “Paraphrase” some more comic books, you dork.

        Matt

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      • on January 27, 2013 at 4:47 pm Matthew King (King A)

        Sidewinder wrote:

        I’m a mid-30s professional looking for quality, family-orientated girls in their mid to late 20s. I have completely lost any motivation to go to bars and pickup girls 18-22.

        There are several quality “mid-to-late 20s” girls who read and comment here, Jessica and PetiteOlive just two recent ones, who join perhaps an order of magnitude of more reticent female fans. Some self-styled “players” with big-fish stories can’t accept this cognitive dissonance, even though the “unicorns” have announced their presence repeatedly.

        Easy enough for the swaggin suave pick up scientists: if a fact doesn’t fit the ideology, reject it as impossible and imaginary, in the face of all evidence. So we get a deadly combination of unfounded assumption, petulant assertion, and circular thinking. This is precisely how stupid bitches think, and the “men” who agree with them is one reason why feminism persists.

        Next will come deny deny deny, endless blabbing about unicorns, and one more attempt at the preposterous bluff of “Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?” with absolutely nothing commending their theories beyond self-reported successes with drunken guttertrash that the rest of us left to them anyway.

        Sidewinder’s inquiry deserves serious consideration. The one-dimensional, reformed-nerd-PUAs around here, however, can’t get over their puffed-up selves long enough to even acknowledge Sidewinder’s interest as legitimate, much less offer practical advice.

        What’s the best they have? Pages and pages of impenetrable “field report” dissection but lol go fuck someone’s fiancee lol you feel better lol for the men who refuse to wallow in a slut culture to derive a sense of self-worth.

        Yeah. There’s a reason why quality women don’t react to their level of overblown bravado, and why chumps are convinced they don’t exist. Well, in one sense they really don’t exist: they don’t exist to them. Top quality marriagable women sniff out the warlock razzmatazz and — if they’re drunk or horny enough — might accidentally throw them a fuck or two. Junior gets his dick wet!

        But who are these women really after? What type of man will they drop everything for, forget relationships for, do anything for? Those are the real issues that matter — not just attracting but controlling top quality women. The PUA seminar boy who stumbled across the conversational equipment of rohypnol only impresses the omega pool of losers whence he emerged. The rest of us know it is no big feat to temporarily stun a woman, date rape her, and slink away before a third-rate mimic’s true worth can be scrutinized by women who will find them lacking, and faintly pathetic.

        Matt

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      • on January 28, 2013 at 12:57 am YaReally

        “In other words you found the “unicorn” that you claim doesn’t exist?”

        So you’re saying a woman who sleeps with a guy from a bar she’s just met a few hours ago isn’t a whore? I really wish you’d be consistent with your definitions. Maybe you can draw up a chart of specific what actions in what timeframe constitute a Madonna and a whore, thanks.

        “It makes sense only if she’s a whale.”

        It absolutely would only make sense that way from your computer chair in your basement where you never go out and don’t pick up girls.

        “Or do you expect us to believe your game is so much tighter than every man she ever met before from age 16-30, that only you could solve her riddle, and in four hours flat?”

        I didn’t ask for details on why she hasn’t settled down yet. It sounds like she had to move around a lot.

        “The only way you could be telling the truth would be if she were fat and foul and hit the wall hard.”

        lol nah, she was cute. About a 7. I normally try to shoot for better, but it was a slow night at the bar so there wasn’t much to choose from.

        “So either you just made it all up, or you have exaggerated her SMV.”

        Ya, all the RSD guy’s in-field videos are full of guys who don’t get laid claiming the girls are all paid actresses, hammered, 2/10 Would Not Bangs, etc. It’s really hard to wrap your head around how possible this all is when you spend your Fri/Sat nights typing furiously on the Internet instead of going out and socializing and gaming girls.

        “No fucking shit hypergamous women lapse all the time, purity rings notwithstanding.”

        So how many lapses does a Madonna need before she becomes a whore? Gimme like, a specific amount here. Because the Good Girl unicorn you wife is just as far away from one of those “lapses” as any other woman. And that’s my point, that women aren’t cut from different cloths, they all have both sides to them, if you can create a situation where they’re comfortable bringing it out.

        “Dollar Store Lothario”

        I do buy candles from the dollar store. You have scathed me verily to my core with your words.

        “We are the advocates of forcefully protecting them so that they don’t squander their greatest asset on a clueless putz like you after one too many cosmos.”

        Yes, that’s why I recommended you lock your unicorn in a basement so it can’t interact with any of the better men in the world for the rest of her life. Because you are attempting to control her Hypergamy instead of simply learning to be the highest-value man her Hypergamy could choose.

        “You are the fantasist who imagines the very idea impossible, despite 10,000 years of human cultural history of which you are proudly unaware.”

        Oh it’s totally possible. As long as you lock her in a basement and ensure that she never meets another man who’s higher value than you…which, quite frankly by your posts in general and the amount of respect nobody really has for you as a role-model, is pretty much every other guy out there…especially a clueless putz like me. 🙂

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      • on January 28, 2013 at 1:17 am YaReally

        “There are several quality “mid-to-late 20s” girls who read and comment here”

        I don’t think they’re going to fly to your parent’s basement and sleep with you dude, you can stop trying to woo the girls in the comment section lol

        “to even acknowledge Sidewinder’s interest as legitimate, much less offer practical advice.”

        We just don’t want him to waste his time holding out for a unicorn when he could be going out and meeting real live women and basing his personal goals for his love life on actual reality and experience with a variety of women instead of listening to overblown Internet bullies like yourself telling him to just keep on keepin’ on chasing the unicorn with hand-lotion and tissues on his nightstand.

        “Pages and pages of impenetrable “field report” dissection”

        Pages and pages…and pages. And pages. And pages. And PAGES. lol 10+ YEARS worth of thousands of PUAs reporting in-field experience. Even if some of them are made up or exaggerated, when you look at the overall data you can see consistent patterns and weed out most of the bullshit.

        What are you offering? Your opinion? Based on, what, your bitter angry view of the world? lol

        “There’s a reason why quality women don’t react to their level of overblown bravado”

        2/10 WOULD NOT BANG!!111 GAEM ONLY WORKS ON DRUNK BAR SLUTTZZ U CANT GET REAL GIRLS IN TEH DAY OR SOBER!! That wouldn’t work on Janice at the office, she’s special!!11

        Which of us is acting like a woman again? All your arguments against game are the same shit the Jezebelians say.

        “Top quality marriagable women sniff out the warlock razzmatazz”

        lol I am certain the top quality marriagable women are waiting for a guy who says razzmatazz.

        “if they’re drunk or horny enough”

        I like gaming sober girls more than drunk, drunk ones don’t get all my clever innuendo and wit and are just annoying in general. Picking up a sober girl is much more fun. You’re still just using the “GAME ONLY WORKS ON DRUNK BAR SLUTS” angle.

        The “horny enough” part I’ll agree with. My skills at game and triggering their emotions and escalating are what make them horny enough. That’s called seduction.

        “But who are these women really after? What type of man will they drop everything for, forget relationships for, do anything for?”

        Gotta’ be that razzmatazz guy. It certainly wouldn’t be the guy who attracts them, keeps them wet and thinking about him 24/7, gives them the full range of emotional rollercoaster they normally have to seek out through soap operas and 50 Shades of Grey, is a fantastic lay, has a bunch of friends in various high-value social circles, and is desired by other women.

        No, eww, she would never want a guy like that long-term. Bring on the razzmatazz man typing away furiously at his keyboard!

        “not just attracting but controlling top quality women.”

        lol we have a bunch of that shit. There are PUA forums based around relationship dynamics, that all gel with the stuff Rollo talks about. But you probably think Rollo is full of shit too, I’m sure.

        “The rest of us know it is no big feat to temporarily stun a woman, date rape her, and slink away before a third-rate mimic’s true worth can be scrutinized by women who will find them lacking, and faintly pathetic.”

        oooo, you’re jumping right into Jezzie territory now hey? Are you practicing to be a writer for them? I hope my GF of 2+ years doesn’t come out of her temporary stun anytime soon or I’m toast!!!

        I think the important question to come from all of this is: When can we read your first Jezebel article? Please be sure to link it to us. Hugo will love your company!

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      • on January 28, 2013 at 12:40 pm Matthew King (King A)

        You’re just an inveterate liar. Especially when lying to yourself. Quite womanish in that regard.

        lol nah, she was cute. About a 7. I normally try to shoot for better, but it was a slow night at the bar so there wasn’t much to choose from.

        Pics or it didn’t happen, fattie/uggo fucker. Talk about finding a unicorn. These women don’t exist. Either she is unattractive, or she wasn’t a virgin, or she wasn’t a Christian, or she’s lying, or you’re lying, or all of the above. Either she betrayed her principles before age 30, or the upcoming wall convinced her to whore it up while she still could. In any event your mad skillz had nothing to do with anything, and still less to do with precipitating a betrayal of principle.

        So you’re saying a woman who sleeps with a guy from a bar she’s just met a few hours ago isn’t a whore? I really wish you’d be consistent with your definitions.

        Again, junior-high drop out, try to follow along. Re-read three or four times if necessary.

        Either she somehow resisted being that “woman who sleeps with a guy from a bar she’s just met a few hours ago” through the peak years of temptation (16-26), or you weren’t her first and she betrayed her principles long before you. In the former case, you prove my point. In the latter case, you prove my point.

        It’s called inductive reasoning. You think you’re smooth because you try this half-witted logic on dumb sluts, and, what do you know!, it works on them. Do you know any men? Have you ever known any men? Where’s daddy?

        Are you lying now, or were you lying then? Oh wait, you

        didn’t ask for details on why she hasn’t settled down yet. It sounds like she had to move around a lot.

        This doesn’t pass the smell test, brah. When any man finds a certified virgin at age 30 in this day and age, there has to be an extraordinary explanation. But you failed to even be curious? If that’s the case, then you prove my point: even you believe women can discipline themselves through their SMV peak, so much that you accepted it as a legitimate reason without question.

        Unless she was heinous. Which, according to Occam’s razor, she was.

        “She had to move around a lot.” Right. A beautiful, pious Christian woman who not only is taught to understand her life primarily as a wife and mother, but who also is pressured into marriage as an outlet for her sexuality; she just kind of forgot to pursue the matter for twelve years because she “had to move around a lot.”

        Yes, that’s why I recommended you lock your unicorn in a basement so it can’t interact with any of the better men in the world for the rest of her life. Because you are attempting to control her Hypergamy instead of simply learning to be the highest-value man her Hypergamy could choose.

        Is that how the moo-cow came to you on that fateful night she betrayed her religion? Because her dad locked her in the basement for 15 years?

        Oh it’s totally possible. As long as you lock her in a basement and ensure that she never meets another man who’s higher value than you…which, blah blah lol blah RSD blah basement basement lol

        Who’s in the basement now? Me “typing furiously”? With the hot girls I keep enslaved there to keep them from the clutches of a PUA-website maven?

        From the beginning you have made shit up because you can’t fathom the world otherwise. This is the telltale sign of a zealot, an ideologue, a true believer who simply cannot process evidence contrary to his creed. Your proclamations from the Church of PUA are transparent to “better men” as the compensations you console yourself over for otherwise being a loser at life. Nothing else explains the consistency with which you deny entire categories of human beings in the face of all circumstantial evidence, logical induction, deduction, testimony, and proof.

        Just because you get attaboys from flailing omegas doesn’t mean you have the rest of us fooled. Just because you consume thinly-veiled self-help schlock from Canadian charlatans doesn’t mean you can attain value from merely asserting, “I’m good enough, PUA enough, and doggone it, web-commenters like me.” You refuse the possibility of a world where other men look at your life’s work and shrug. Nobody told you that’s how the Seduce and Destroy circus concludes.

        Those who never needed manuals and YouTubes to know how to be a man — if you can ever come to grips with this — find your recourse to that remedial training indicative of what kind of chump you really were and still are. I have no problem with men looking to improve their station through certain online materials as a stepping stone to a manhood their circumstances never provided them. On the other hand, zealots like you begin at such a deficit that you find your transformation miraculous, and this miracle causes you to worship the instrument of your salvation well beyond the bounds of what average men find comfortable, and what “better men” find compos mentis.

        Face facts. There are no more websites to program you for life beyond PUA obsession. But the first step is to recognize how embarrassingly dependent you are on a creed you defend against any person who dares to be skeptical. Like me, who not only calls bullshit on your exaggerations and declarations, but rubs your dorky little nose in it.

        Matt

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      • on January 28, 2013 at 5:16 pm YaReally

        lol I DID take a pic of all the Jesus stuff in her room to show my buddies because it was funny to me (I’m not religious at all). Probably should’ve snapped a pic of my dick with hymen blood on it and made her pose for another pic with jizz on her face to appease the Keyboard Jockey virgin “calling me out” on an Internet comment section, jeeze why didn’t I think of it at the time??

        My point is that she was only a unicorn because of circumstance (ie – not meeting a guy who pushed her buttons enough to get her to put out) and not because she’s any different than any other girl. If she had met me at 20 she would’ve put out just the same as now. All you have to do is watch 99% of guys and their sad “game” to get how beta and prone to anti-gaming most guys are. I didn’t ask for details on her life story because I didn’t need to to get the lay and I’ve met enough girls and heard enough of their life stories that they’re not that fascinating to me anymore.

        If you would just leave your CPU room and talk to some girls you’d learn that nothing I say has to be exaggerated because this really isn’t that “out there” if you’re a cool social guy with some sharp Game. You’re exactly like Aunt Sue and the Jezzie crew who don’t go out and pick up women but proclaim with absolute certainty that they know what they’re talking about and just try to bully everyone into believing they’re an authority.

        That’s right, you are an Internet bully. 🙂 And I’m sure it was fun and you probably felt like you had some kind of authoritative respect back when no one in the comments had enough real-world experience to point out that you’re full of shit. So I understand that the pain of looking around and wondering why people don’t take you seriously anymore is probably tough to deal with. Maybe you should take a break from the Internet for a while? Go outside, make some new real-life friends. Talk to a girl.

        Like literally this is our conversation:

        Me: “the sky is blue.”

        You: “INFIDEL!! Don’t think you can pull the wool over these men’s eyes with your charlatan lies!! The sky is green!!”

        Me: “umm…I’m lookin at it right now. Pretty sure it’s blue dude. That guy over there? He’s looking at it too.”

        You: “you sound like a woman!! Any real man has experienced the green sky for himself without any of your tricks and ruses!”

        Me: “…have you ever been outside? Do you have windows in your basement there? You should step outside and just see for yourself. Or you can just like, look out a window at the blue sky.”

        You: “I’ve seen the greenest skies in the world! Who are you to question me????”

        Me: “lol ok man, you do your thing. Me and these other guys will be over here looking at this blue sky like we’ve all been doing for years.”

        You: “RAZZMATAZZ!!!!”

        lol maybe getting laid would make you less uptight. You should try it, it’s fun! 🙂

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      • on January 30, 2013 at 4:07 pm Matthew King (King A)

        Go outside, make some new real-life friends. Talk to a girl.

        D’oh! Why didn’t I think of that! Okay, hang on a minute …

        …

        …

        Done!

        I still think you’re a barely-disguised spaz who fools only omega self-helpers like you.

        Now what?

        You seriously have nothing else, other than speculating about my secret envy of you, or declaring without evidence how socially inept I am.

        That’s how all confrontations with nerds end. You see, the definition of a nerd is one who stores up his entire sense of self-worth in a single expertise (whether that be physics, or math, or PUA tricks), and uses that apparent authority to disparage men better than they. He might be more well-rounded, gifted, attractive, and accomplished than I am, but he isn’t half as fluent in Klingon! I’ll bet he doesn’t even know what Kch’rurk means! These so-insecure-they-can’t-even-detect-the-source-of-their-insecurities types deliberately shut out all evidence to the contrary of their fantasy, heaping ridicule on those who spot them for who they are, out of fear of discovery.

        Except here comes someone demonstrably equal to your expertise — but also more. This is the person you have to constantly go after. I am not allowed to exist in your world. No, I must be some hidden agent of “Aunt Sue and the Jezzie crew” (whatever that is) for your delicate little house-of-cards ego not to blow over.

        Why are you on such a crusade over me? Doesn’t my obvious keyboard jockeying disqualify me on its face? What’s with the piling on? What are you overcompensating for?

        I didn’t say you didn’t bag a 30-year-old virgin. I said whoopdy fucking do that you did. Go high five your brahs about it. But if you think it constitutes some sort of rock-solid proof of Eternal Slutdom, you simply have trouble following an argument you have no answer for. It wouldn’t surprise me if you concocted the entire incident, but I’m not a hater, I will give you the benefit of the doubt. Nevertheless, the simplest bullshit test indicates you exaggerated the detail just to try to win an argument online. That’s beyond poor reading comprehension and well past your typical, arrogant stupidity which fools only your fanclub. That’s just a sad thing to do in an all-too-obvious bid to boost your self-esteem.

        You shouldn’t need to indulge those bad old omega habits anymore. You are a self-evident stud, remember?

        Matt

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      • on February 1, 2013 at 12:14 am YaReally

        lol yes I am absolutely concerned that you are more well-rounded, gifted, and attractive than me lol you NAILED it!!

        Just replying to update: turns out she’s bisexual. Between that and the religious stuff about P in V being a big deal, that explains why she’s a virgin at 30. She’s been licking pussy all this time lol

        We now have a deal where I’m going to teach her how to treat a cock and she’s going to teach me how to treat a pussy. Lol I love my life. Probably going to try to get a 3-some with another chick going.

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      • on February 2, 2013 at 11:25 am Matthew King (King A)

        HIGH FIGHVE!

        “Turns out she’s bisexual,” which means she was abused and likely bipolar, which is the easiest prey, confused and manic as they are.

        So, to recap: you “gamed” a nominally religious, wall-approaching dyke with PTSD who feared cock for two decades because her uncle touched her, and this is your proof that all quality women revert to inveterate sluts whenever they see your little munchkin frame and Ed Hardy shirt slink into the club with your lol game-face on.

        When is the blog coming out, man? How do you do it?

        Matt

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      • on February 2, 2013 at 12:02 pm Tilikum

        Matt,

        I’ll give you a grand to let me follow you around and video tape you interacting in your natural habitat. Seriously. I will travel anywhere.

        When the guys from MTV’s “Catfish” show up at your door and that HS Jock finds out it is really you…..I. Have.To.Be.There.

        Get him to cry, another K. Get him to flip and blow you, another K.

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      • on February 2, 2013 at 1:02 pm Matthew King (King A)

        Great. Another big-talking, barely reformed omega comes along to replace the last one with his own inane internet bluff job. Scratch at a roach and a whole nest of them comes pouring out of the drywall.

        I gotta get out of here.

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      • on January 27, 2013 at 5:36 pm anonymous

        1 – I wouldn’t waste my time with anyone who would not stay home and raise/homeschool my children.
        2 – Woman should have no kids and had never been on birth control,
        3 – No manjaw and her parents and grandparents are not fat and live long lives with a sports/military background
        4 – Should be in the 24-28 age range so they will most likely not require expensive fertility treatments and have fewer complications
        5 – No debt, decent job but not a career type, college education alright, perferably a nursing background
        6 – Be ok with living in a small town close to either family so you can afford to homeschool.

        If you can find someone that can match that criteria then there is no reason not to marry a woman. But hurry up, you may be running out of time at mid 30’s. Also, never let a woman know how much money you make because she will then think it is hers to spend 😛

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    • on January 23, 2013 at 9:02 pm immoralgables

      Amen. To quote YaReally, “make the girls emotions go /\/\/\/\/\/\/\ and not __________”

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  25. on January 23, 2013 at 8:07 pm Dew Shpag

    tapping into a girls imagination instead of groveling on the logical bank of safe questions will make her curious and excited. superlative questions are shit (what is the most/best/greatest/worst/highest/fuckedy-est xyz) because they come off as try-hard. instead, opinions, observations, exaggerations, hypotheticals, caricatures, personifications, imitations, all on everyday subjects (or immediate surroundings) will come off as more natural.

    when you have her interested, she will start asking questions, most likely plucked from the stale seven to get the biographical sketch because she is curious and also because attractive women generally have to exert little effort in the conversational arena due to majority reliance on their looks doing all the legwork. take the stale seven from an attractive woman as an IOI. and then reveal your answers like a movie trailer which leaves the audience begging for more. reveal less than 50% of everything, and leave answers which beg questions, creating the pull effect, and letting her do some of the legwork and chasing.

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  26. on January 23, 2013 at 8:09 pm YaReally

    When you’re advanced, you can ask these questions and it goes over well…why? Because when you’re new and ask them, you’re seeking rapport, you’re looking for commonalities and evidence that you should be together and she should let you have sex with her. When you’re advanced and ask the same questions, you’re qualifying her…you’re asking those questions to possibly disqualify her from getting to have sex with you.

    For a fun experiment, try this: Take the 7 things listed and turn them into statements instead of questions.

    So instead of:
    1) What’s your name?
    2) What do you do?
    3) Where do you live?
    4) Where are you from?
    5) What school did you go to?
    6) Where do you work?
    7) How do you like it here?

    It’s:
    1) You look like an Amanda. No? That’s okay, I’m going to call you Amanda anyway, Amanda.

    2) Let me guess, you’re studying to be a nurse…I swear every girl I meet is either a nurse or a teacher.

    3) That’s weird what you just did, you must be from the south side. South side girls are fucking crazy.

    4) You’re not from around here, are you.

    5) You’re one of those University of YaReally girls aren’t you.

    6) Oh you’re a JobName. You must work for YaReally Company.

    7) You don’t look like the type of chick that would like this place. I can tell because you look at every guy that walks by like “what a douche” lol. You seem like more of a BarName type girl.

    Same exact questions, but instead of asking them and seeking rapport, you’re making a statements and almost accusing or cold-reading her, in breaking rapport. Like you’re telling her with 100% certainty what she must do or where she must be from.

    If you’re right on anything, she’s mind-blown by you cold-reading her dead on like that and you can tease her about being able to read her like a book and close. If you’re wrong (which you usually will be), you can later on go “You know, I completely mis-judged you when we met. I’m usually pretty good at reading people but you’re not like other girls. I’m impressed…you should give me your number and we’ll hang out sometime. You aren’t the type of girl who gives her number out to every guy who asks for it, I bet. I didn’t think so, see I can be right once in a while lol here, put your number in.” and close.

    This alone will completely change your interactions. Try it this weekend. Just remember the phrase “statements, not questions”.

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    • on January 23, 2013 at 9:13 pm immoralgables

      Solid man. Question for you YaReally, do you put a lot of weight on kiss-closing the same night/day you meet a girl? On one hand I feel like its important to escalate, on the other hand I could see PDA being misconstrued as beta; that or some girls freak out if things escalate too fast.

      Like, I’ll get a girls number and meet her out for a day two and kiss then, no problem. At times though I feel like I should have pushed things further during the initial meet. I’ve been on two day twos in the past two weeks; one with a girl (tall hb7)I meet at my neighbors apt party and this other girl (tiny Asian hb7) who volunteered at this workshopI lead. On both day 2s was it the first time where anything physical happened and we kissed.

      I see vids of Steve Jabba kiss closing a girl on the street in 3min and feel like fuck, I should have pushed things with the girls I initially meet sometims. But then again, I feel like with these two girls I went out with recently, a same day kiss/makeout might have scared them away. The actual going on the day 2 and getting drinks and flirting via text the whole week or so beforehand is what allowed the kiss to even take place. (Building comfort)

      Maybe it’s a calibration thing but would like to hear yours and others thoughts as to how important it is to escalate ASAP versus building comfort and letting it happen on the day 2.

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      • on January 23, 2013 at 9:54 pm Anon

        +1

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      • on January 23, 2013 at 10:09 pm YaReally

        Big in-depth answer here:

        “do you put a lot of weight on kiss-closing the same night/day you meet a girl?”

        Your gut is right that there’s some kind of weird rule-set going on with that that you can’t quite place. Here’s generally how it works:

        Don’t escalate beyond a really light “romantic” quick kiss on the lips at the most (no 5 minute tongue-down makeout lol) if the logistics etc. of the situation won’t allow you to fully fuck her later in that same interaction. If you escalate too far, without being able to seal the deal, she’ll end up flaking on you. This is part of why “Flash Game” (impressing your friends by just instant-making-out with random girls) isn’t SOLID game…it works and if you can escalate right then and there to sex, you can get it (cue bathroom lays and shit), but if you can’t escalate it to sex then that girl’s ASD is going to be going off like a siren and you’re never going to see her again.

        It’s like escaping prison lol You might make it out the gate before the alarms go off, but if you can’t get over the next couple fences before the dogs chase you down, you’re going back in the slammer under maximum security and there’s no way you’re getting a second chance.

        So if you meet a girl at the bar, even if you run the entire pickup solid, if you get into a heavy makeout session with her and her friends drag her away at the end of the night, or she has work in the morning and can’t come over, or you have to babysit your drunk buddy, or any number of logistical things that can fuck up getting the lay that night happen, you can get her number but there’s a good chance you will probably never get her to meet up with you again. She might txt you, and she might agree to meet up, but she’ll flake a bunch.

        You can counter this by building a lot of comfort/rapport because it’s basically just her ASD triggering (“if I agree to meet up, it’s going to look like I’m easy and just want sex, he doesn’t know anything about me he only wants to fuck me”), or just by sheer Fool’s Mate that she thinks you’re hot or is horny when you txt her and you luck into the right place at the right time, but we try to play the percentages in our favor, not rely on luck. 🙂

        If you do your recon right (you screened her for logistics, right? Found out if she has to drive her friends home, where she’s staying, how long she’s in the city for, made friends with her friends to see how protective they are, etc.?), and you can tell from experience that you’re probably not going to be able to fuck her that night, build enough attraction that you COULD make out with her, even get in close, give her the laser-eyes, talk all slow and sexy, all that shit, but don’t make out with her. At the most, a romantic quick kiss, but end it first and stick to basic “couples” kino (arm around her waist etc.).

        Leaving that tension hanging in the air will help solidify her number and get her out on the Day 2 where you can escalate to the full lay (because you planned out your Day 2 to involve venue changes, an excuse to go back to your place, etc. right?). Or if you want to take it slow you can just make-out and escalate a bit on the Day 2, and then get the full lay on a Day 3 or whatever…but keep in mind each date you don’t fuck her is another notch on the “viewing this guy as an LTR/Provider instead of a casual fuck” ladder. I try to fuck them on the Day 2 (skipping the Day 2 entirely if possible by escalating quick lol) because I want to be in the casual fuck category.

        “I see vids of Steve Jabba kiss closing a girl on the street in 3min”

        It looks super cool, but it’s not solid game. If she just happens to be into him looks-wise, she’ll meet up with him and they can fuck, or if he builds some comfort/rapport via txt/phone she’ll meet up with him and they can fuck, but otherwise generally speaking, that chick would flake. Again she might txt with him, but when it comes to the actual meet-up, without more comfort or her just being into his looks, it’s not likely.

        This isn’t to bash Steve or anything, it’s good in-field footage and I’m sure he wasn’t trying to fuck her, just land a good fast makeout pickup for the camera, but overall most PUAs know that running game that way results in an uphill battle for a Day 2.

        “and feel like fuck, I should have pushed things with the girls I initially meet sometims.”

        COULD and SHOULD are two different things. 🙂 You absolutely can escalate faster than you probably do…but if what you’re doing is working, don’t fuck with it. You’re falling ass-backwards into following the rules I mentioned…you grab their # and get physical on the Day 2, and they show up for the Day 2 partly because you didn’t get physical on the initial meet. It’s a good system, and most of my early lays came from that same method. I only escalate quickly now because I have work to do and a Primary GF I do “date stuff” with, so I’m basically in it for the Same Night Lay or nothing at all.

        If I get stuck with a number after a makeout because of logistics, I know pretty much from the start that there’s almost no point in even txting it because I’m back in prison with maximum security around me. (but I do txt it, just for practice, and if I build enough comfort/rapport I can get them to meet up again and then we fuck, but it’s WAY more work (can be weeks worth of txting depending on how high her ASD has been triggered and how frequent a txt’er she is) than I feel like investing when I can just go meet new girls next weekend)

        “The actual going on the day 2 and getting drinks and flirting via text the whole week or so beforehand is what allowed the kiss to even take place. (Building comfort)”

        People shit on Mystery’s “7 hour rule” and how complicated Mystery Method looks, and we know from experience that we can escalate to the make-out, lay, etc. WAY faster than 7 hours and we can skip over comfort/rapport etc.

        But what Mystery’s system is designed to do is to get the girl so completely attracted to you that she “craves” you. Like I can get a fast makeout and then assertively demand her number and badger her into sex plowing through resistance all alpha badass quickly, but that’s not the same as what I get when I run Mystery Method which results in the girl asking me for my number or demanding I take her number and call her and basically doing all the work for us to have sex. Like, it’s two totally different worlds.

        So he used that 7 hours and his elaborate system stages to build a shit-ton of comfort and connection with the girls to get to a point where to them, he was the most amazing thing they’d ever seen in their life and they would be insane to flake on him or miss this opportunity to be with a guy so high value. Whereas a lot of time with RSD style faster game, the girls are attracted but there’s still a lot of plowing/chasing the guy has to do to get the lay.

        Anyway, the short of it is: Keep doing what you’re doing. Don’t escalate past a quick romantic kiss on the initial meet unless you know you can go for the finish line. If you can’t get there on the initial meet, structure a Day 2 (or 3 or 4 or whatever) that allows you a clear path to the finish line, then plow full steam ahead, whether it’s the first night or a Day 10. 🙂

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 5:56 am immoralgables

        That made a lot of sense thanks man. Apparently, I’ve been doing a lot of things that work for me.

        Reading Mystery Method and a lot of comments regarding ramping up the escalation made me feel like my game was lacking in one way or another.

        Thanks again I’ll be sure to report back here once I hit the next roadblock lol.

        Btw, each time I made out with one of the girls on the day 2 I pretended like I couldn’t believe that I had let them get so far with me.

        “Omg I don’t even kiss until the fourth date, you’re taking advantage of me.”

        “Pscch, I’m going to make you wait four months for sex I want to make sure I’m not just a piece of meat to you.”

        “Fine, you can come up to my apt for 30 minutes to see my pet fish but then you really have to go, I’m trying to save it for marriage. ”

        That type of thing.

        The reactions from both girls was incredulous. They have never heard a guy flip the script anymore. Especially the Asian, whom is convinced that every guy that hits on her only wants to fuck her because she’s Asian. Not sure if it will speed up getting the lay but turning the tables like that elicited reactions (not negative either) that I never have seen before.

        Like, who the fuck is this average looking guy screening me out and insinuating that I’m the aggressor. I’m going to run the gambit on a few more girls and report here if it speeds the seduction.

        The Asian said that she could tell I have a type A personality. Felt good because I’ve been working to rid of the AFC for the past year.

        The tall HB7 said she felt scared, as if I could read her thoughts and that I knew exactly what buttons to push. Felt good to hear after being in the dark about women for so long

        -IG

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 6:09 am immoralgables

        Btw, both girls did not reactive negatively to me flipping the script on them. The Asian was legit shell shocked tho and the taller one thought it was funny

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      • on January 25, 2013 at 1:33 am YaReally

        “Reading Mystery Method and a lot of comments regarding ramping up the escalation made me feel like my game was lacking in one way or another.”

        It’s good to learn HOW to escalate fast, like for the hell of it when you’re in some bar where you don’t really care about the consequences (ie – not at a house party hitting on your social circle where fucking up can come back to haunt you), practice escalating quickly for the fun of it and just to have the skillset in your tool-box where you can apply it on Day 2’s or on vacation etc. And it’s good for shattering some limiting beliefs about how fast you can get away with escalating. And it’s a fun adrenaline rush lol

        But keep your bread and butter to what works if you’re getting results and you’re cool with going on Day 2’s etc. 🙂

        “each time I made out with one of the girls on the day 2 I pretended like I couldn’t believe that I had let them get so far with me.”

        You’re running MM style “flip the script”, it’s really powerful as you’ve found out. I give off a vibe now where I’m so obviously a player (this is on purpose and not an inevitable consequence of learning Game so don’t worry if you don’t want to give that vibe off, it’s something I purposely fostered because it helps set the type of relationships I like), that I can’t get away with flipping the script anymore but I used it for my first few years and it was powerful as fuck.

        “The reactions from both girls was incredulous.”

        Incredulous AND completely consistent with what their reactions are supposed to be according to PUA Game. 🙂 Part of why I got sucked into pickup was that I went out and tried some shit word for word out of some PUA teaching and it worked EXACTLY like they said it would, like the girls had the exact reactions that I read they would have. From there I was hooked.

        “Especially the Asian, whom is convinced that every guy that hits on her only wants to fuck her because she’s Asian.”

        Ya, fuck, I get this as a white guy if I talk to an Asian chick. I don’t even have to actually be hitting on her, she just assumes I have Yellow Fever and want to fuck her like every other guy. The irony is I actually don’t even like Asian chicks, they usually have a pretty asexual vibe and I can’t picture them being good in bed. Most of the Asian porn I’ve seen they just lay there like starfish making annoying noises lol I would actually have to be convinced TO fuck an Asian chick. But the stereotype is there and Asian chicks have enough reference experience of white guys with Yellow Fever that it affects how they view themselves on the 1-10 scale and you have to adapt your game to that. So flipping the script blows their mind if you’re a white dude.

        “Like, who the fuck is this average looking guy screening me out and insinuating that I’m the aggressor. I’m going to run the gambit on a few more girls and report here if it speeds the seduction.”

        lol do it up. You’ll find certain personality types respond to it really well (whereas some types respond better to you unapologetically being the aggressor) and it’ll help you calibrate when to use it.

        “The Asian said that she could tell I have a type A personality. Felt good because I’ve been working to rid of the AFC for the past year.”

        lol we usually “debrief” the girl after sex when we’re cuddling with her, like ask her what she thought of us when she first met us, ask her when she knew she wanted to fuck us, etc. just to see how other people view us. Girls would literally tell me I must be lying when I’d tell them I was a virgin till 23 and never had a girlfriend and was socially awkward etc. Like it was so unbelievable to them based on what they knew about me that they thought I was just fucking with them and would even get angry about it. There was a point near the start where I literally had to lie to girls and say I’ve slept with a bunch of other girls because that was congruent to the YaReally that they just banged. 🙂 I always found that shit funny lol

        Props on your self-improvement! Keep at it, the “fake it till you make it” thing is legit, I could never fall back into my old Beta AFC self…it’s just not possible at this point, I’ve crossed the line too far.

        “The tall HB7 said she felt scared, as if I could read her thoughts and that I knew exactly what buttons to push. Felt good to hear after being in the dark about women for so long”

        lol awesome. Good stuff. This plays into the concept of cockblocking and shit-testing…a lot of that stuff is based on the girl (or her friends) sensing her Buying Temperature is spiking or could start spiking based on the interaction, and trying to throw herself out of that state and cool off her BT. She feels “scared” because it’s like she’s in a car zooming down a hill and trying to jam the brakes but they don’t work and she realizes she can’t stop that car from hitting the wall at the bottom of the hill (aka fuck you). So she tries to throw shit-tests at you and her friends drag her away etc. hoping you fuck up and the brakes kick in so she doesn’t have to be a slut, but if you pass all that shit like a pro boom, you get the lay.

        So for her she’s just mind-blown that you can jam her brakes like that so effortlessly because most other guys can’t. 🙂

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      • on January 25, 2013 at 12:58 pm Turk

        Last wknd got 4 numbers and a lay from a 7 with a tiny waist. First one i didnt make out with is redicilously interested, the two i tongue kissed are acting distant nd the one i laid same night is also acting distant. Slut defence in action even tho its way past the poiny of no return..

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      • on January 23, 2013 at 11:13 pm anonymous

        I enjoy your comments and thought I would add what I normally do. I will keep things light and number close as fast as possible, text and be interesting, set up a meet and do something interesting, then kinda fade off. Anywhere from a week to 3 months later I will get a text of “hey” or “whats up” and from there I will escalate fast. 9 times out of 10 I can get a SNL out of the woman when she reinitiates. I figure the reason this works so well, and spares me a lot of time trying to chase after women, is because every now and then women do get horny, and I’m better off waiting for them to be horny then trying to make them horny and having like a 25% success rate at that. If the sex is good it will usually lead to a fwb, but the choice is mine. Also if a chick goes out she probably gets a few numbers and whatnot that night and it takes a little bit for those leads to pan out, and that leaves me left in good standing while the other guys messed up. Anyways, if you do this enough, it will keep you as busy as you want. Also, it works best if you go over to her place. If things don’t work well just leave right away.

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 6:01 am immoralgables

        Hey man I see the merits of your strategy and can’t knock it. Only concern might be that as you move up the chain and game hotter girls, how likely is it that they will yearn for random dick of a guy that’s not on their radar.

        Like “hmm, well I have an invite to the club with this model looking guy. Or can go down to the Bahamas with this European guy this wknd. Or I can get in a cab and go cross town to this guy YaReallys apt who makes my emotions go /\/\/\/\. But know what, ill just hit up that guy I met a few weeks back instead.”

        Would love to hear the semantics of how you escalate fast though after they hit you up I think it could help a lot of guys out because its a difficult skill set to get right. Thanks for the feedback.

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      • on January 25, 2013 at 12:39 am anonymous

        If the competition is between me, model guy, european guy, and YaReally then I may have to go fatty trollin… haha

        I think if you tried my strategy on hotter women you would find some success, but it really comes down to what you want. For me its a numbers game and there are women everywhere so I just have fun with it.

        The basic goal of escalation is to get isolation with a woman. How to do that? These days its as simple as her inviting me over to watch movies. Or even cuddling. It doesn’t really matter what the reason is as long as your alone with her in a mostly private place.

        Here is the basic way these convos go…
        *after not talking to her for a few weeks*
        hey whats up – not much just been swamped at work, what are you up to
        that sucks, im just watching tv kinda bored – me too, i dont feel like doing much tonight, what are ya watching?
        Im just watching LameTVshow… – Sounds like loads of fun…
        Oh yeah loads – Yeah I bet, I havent had fun in a few weeks
        Me either blah blah blah – We should just hang out and be bored together
        That would be nice – blah blah blah what is your address?

        Most of the time they jump at the chance to hang out again after having a good time talking with me and then the followup date. Sometimes I come over and start watching TV and cuddling next thing I know her hand is headed south.

        If I get any resistance its usually just logistics but then they just go back into the slow cooker for a day or more depending on how busy I am or what I feel like doing. After wasting a lot of time when I was young chasing after women and nothing coming of it I really hate wasting time now. So I kinda developed this to use as little of my time as possible kinda weird how that works…

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      • on January 25, 2013 at 1:46 am YaReally

        Both of you have good points. Immoral’s right that hotter girls have a lot of options, but the way Anonymous is running it he’s coming off as pretty high-value to the girl BECAUSE he’s not chasing her around. If he gets a # off a 9, and then doesn’t bother to put any effort into chasing her, that stands out as “wtf?? Does he have other girls as hot as me and doesn’t need to chase me around like these other guys??” because most of those rich 6-pack guys are hounding her to meet up.

        If she throws out a feeler txt, he knows that’s the signal of “I want to hook up” so he just escalates on it. A lot of guys would over-game off that feeler txt and fuck it up or try to set up a Day 2 for the weekend etc., but he knows as soon as he gets that “hey whats up” that’s her saying “escalate this shit, I need cock” and escalates it in a fun smooth chill way to isolation, where things can escalate to sex.

        Girls with boyfriends (new or long-term) will do the same thing. If I don’t hear from a girl for a few months and then she txts me a “hey” on a Friday night, I know that means “I’m horny and for whatever reason I’m not fucking my boyfriend, I need you to arrange a situation where we can have sex in a way that doesn’t trigger my ASD and make me feel slutty” so she trusts me to understand her signal and make it happen and I’ll bone her that night.

        I just don’t primarily focus on this strategy, but I can completely see it working as a method if you’re really chill about getting laid and you have a lot of other stuff going on in your life (work, exercise, hobbies, etc.) where you can’t be bothered to chase pussy around.

        BradP called this putting a girl on the “slow-track” and he added stuff like arranging ambiguous future plans with her or saying he’d call and then not call etc. which is just a more elaborate/pro-active version of your slow-cooker. But again, if you have more important shit to do than chase pussy which is what BradP’s version is, the slow-cooker of just waiting for them to initiate is just as good.

        Thanks for sharing your method/mindset!

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    • on January 24, 2013 at 5:23 am taterearl

      Heh…like Lloyd Christmas.

      That’s a lovely accent you have there…New Jersey!?!

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 6:04 am immoralgables

        Haha that’s solid. I always like to ask where in Long Island they are from in the first few minutes. If they are from there then you have that “intuition”, and if they’re not then you just negged them and they try to qualify themselves and find out what made you say that.

        Reminded me of of this line stolen from Nick Krauser

        “Ok I’m going to guess what industry you work in based off your look. Hm, well definitely not fashion.”

        *fireworks*

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    • on January 26, 2013 at 9:35 am yaser

      Good post. I bet this works in all sorts of social interactions.

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  27. on January 23, 2013 at 8:21 pm edie

    i’m a woman. i’ve been in a relationship with my husband since our early 20s and thus, i don’t really have that much experience with dating – so i find this fascinating.

    do people really banter about granola?

    most women really can’t answer WHY they hold the beliefs that they do?

    if you’re a guy of above-average intelligence, what is your definition of an “interesting” female conversational partner? what are the essential attributes?

    if a girl started talking to you about, like, cryogenics, would that be more or less of a turnoff than a lengthy discussion about kanye’s overhaul of kim’s wardrobe in ‘keeping up with the kardashians’? (assuming the girl is hot in both cases)

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    • on January 23, 2013 at 8:54 pm YaReally

      “most women really can’t answer WHY they hold the beliefs that they do?”

      We know that. And that’s kind of the point. Tyler says “You’re only as smart as you have to be.” so a hot chick doesn’t HAVE to know her Why because no one will ever require it of her.

      See what goes thru a girl’s head when you say “Why?” and stare her down, if you could slow down time, is basically “what? Why?? I don’t know why, no one’s ever asked me that, they’re usually just happy I have my tits in this push-up bra! Why isn’t that enough for him? Has he been around enough girls with nice tits that those don’t even matter to him?? Shit those were my ace in the hole here, now he expects me to bring MORE to the table?? Who IS this guy? If he’s been with enough girls with nice tits for those to not be enough for him, what do all those girls know about him that I don’t? I didn’t think much of him at first but he must be one of those hidden high value guys like the homeless guy who turns out to be a millionaire…oh man now I want to impress him since he’s high value…okay I’ll come up with a Why for him! There, I said it, does he approve?? I hope he does omg I hope my answer was good enough…”

      And now a hot girl is finding herself qualifying herself to and seeking approval from a guy she didn’t even really want at first. Him giving her approval starts a chain of rewards that builds attraction. This all happens in a split-second.

      A fun experiment with a girl you’ve got some basic attraction with, is to ask her a question or make her jump through a hoop (“tell me a joke”), and when she can’t answer right away say, in a totally friendly and fun way like you’re helping a child with their homework “Why don’t you think on it and come find me again when you have a better answer. :)” and do a back-turn and talk to your buddies and just completely dismiss her mid-conversation.

      If the attraction is there, she’ll go back to her friends and brainstorm with them like a motherfucker to come up with something better. She’ll ask half the bar to tell her a joke she can bring back to you. And she’ll find you again and try to get your attention and like a 5yo busting out the Father’s Day gift she made in kindergarten, she’ll be super excited to give you her new answer and get your approval/validation.

      Guys fall for this too, a lot. After all, PUAs learned these moves from backwards-engineering what hot women do lol

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    • on January 23, 2013 at 9:04 pm obsessivecakedisorder

      A good conversationalist and interesting person can banter about anything. I’ve had fun conversations about roadkill.

      DUMB women (and men) can’t answer why they hold beliefs because most people don’t educate themselves on anything but just absorb the pablum fed to them by the media. So it’s not really their beliefs, just what they parrot to sound smart.

      I’m of above average intelligence. If you can actually hold a conversation, give legitimate input, segue into another subject without seeming to grasp at straws or make shit up (other than obviously doing it out of fun), enter into a conversation without overwhelming it or being needy with everyone’s attention and giving as well as getting, then you’re a great conversational partner. Also know when time’s up. If someone starts to obviously end the conversation and you’re a hanger-on, you can ruin a whole good conversation that came before it.

      I would much rather discuss Walt Disney’s frozen head than anything about those two idiots. Unless we’re talking about freezing them because I’m all for that.

      I’m a girl, too, happily married for a lot of years. You’ll be surprised at how differently you see things after hanging around here for a while. Just don’t try to girl it up too much; no shoes, makeup tips, etc. They indulge me a bit because who doesn’t like cake?

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      • on January 25, 2013 at 5:40 am Matthew King (King A)

        I like cake! Black Forest with cherries and homemade icing, amirite? And cereal. What is it with Froot Loops? Like, why do they spell “fruit” that way? You know what I mean!?!?

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      • on January 30, 2013 at 4:18 am obsessivecakedisorder

        LIKEOHMAHGAWD YOU TOTALLY GET ME, MATTHEW!! TOO BAD I AM MARRIED OR I WOULD SOOOOO MAKE YOU SAMMICHES! 😉

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    • on January 25, 2013 at 5:34 am Matthew King (King A)

      if you’re a guy of above-average intelligence, what is your definition of an “interesting” female conversational partner?

      An “interesting” female conversation:

      Guy: Do you have a strong gag reflex?

      Girl: *GLLLGH* cough *ALLLGGHHHH*

      Guy: What do you think about talks of another quantitative easing?

      Girl: *HACK* spit *GUHHHGHLLGH*

      And so on.

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  28. on January 23, 2013 at 10:40 pm thebechtloff

    I used to know a guy who was really good at doing voices, one he did a lot was The Rock, back when he was huge. I saw him as a girl what he name is, then when she started to answer he cut her off “It doesn’t matter what your name is!” in a Rock voice. He ended up dating her for a while.

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  29. on January 24, 2013 at 3:32 am Kastin Bell

    alchemize the AA on welfare for maximum defilement

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  30. on January 24, 2013 at 5:30 am taterearl

    It’s a simple question…would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs?

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    • on January 25, 2013 at 5:47 am Matthew King (King A)

      Bullseye. Hilarious.

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  31. on January 24, 2013 at 7:25 am Anonymous

    Why are you a slut?

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  32. on January 24, 2013 at 7:28 am taterearl

    What I like about not asking questions and just going with statements with women is there is less of a chance for them to lie. Since women seem to love correcting someone when they are wrong.

    So I bet you are a nurse.
    No, I’m a (xyz).

    They must be keeping you late at work tonight.
    No, I’m off work in the afternoon.

    As opposed to…what do you do? When are you free? She could tell you anything she wants to.

    But “why” is a different animal now that i think about it.

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  33. on January 24, 2013 at 8:00 am whorefinder

    You know what requires no questions at all?
    ….

    RAPE!

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    • on January 24, 2013 at 8:04 am taterearl

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    • on January 24, 2013 at 10:34 pm Anti-Blue Pill

      How I imagine Whorefinder at the Unemployment office

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  34. on January 24, 2013 at 9:49 am walawala

    THis is why things like “The Cube” work so well. It’s the perfect platform to 1) lead the conversation 2) ask questions that intrique the girl and 3) lead to great conversations afterwards.

    Each time I’ve run this, the girl has continually kept asking if i had any other “tests” or any other things to read their personalities.

    Finding ways to start conversations around role-play also works because it leads to interaction without being personal.

    It’s interesting to me that the more I create a situation: You look like a librarian.

    If you could be an animal, what would it be? Oh? you look like a racoon….

    I’ve started conversations like this that have lead to the girl role-playing the animal, or going off on a tangent.

    Then I can just smile and listen.

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  35. on January 24, 2013 at 9:58 am walawala

    One more note to share. I gamed a girl for several months who fit my HB8 criteria: tall, fit, athletic.

    It was tough going to get any sort of conversation from her.

    But I started by creating role-plays. She is a ballerina, so I started asking, “Are you a black swan or white swan?”

    Whatever the answer, I would say “You seem more like….a xxx swan, it’s those evil eyes/innocent eyes…”

    Then she started to become intrigued.

    After a period of time I got a Day 2 and escalated then banged her.

    Now, she wont shut up, blabbing about anything and everything. She’s also big on talking about banging, what she wants to do to me, etc etc.

    The point was made in an earlier post about how to talk to “Boring girls”.

    THis girl was very reserved, very proper. But by being persistent without being supplicating. By never taking anything she said seriously, it seemed to get the hamster spinning.

    In my case, if I got at least 1 or 2 IOI’s even if the girl was quiet at first, I’d just find ways to provoke some type of reaction. It could be shocking, it could simply be a surprise question.

    But it had more to do with my own confidence in not being put off by the silence than it did with the girl being “shy”.

    Many girls are reserved or shy as a defence mechanism.

    It’s also the reason why after talking dirty or banging my brains out, many of these girls suddenly start to put up the ASD.

    That’s why I’ve learned to pull back the cocky funny and be more real and engaged in my questioning and interaction.

    When she calms down, it’s back to escalation.

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  36. on January 24, 2013 at 10:36 am Sidewinder

    Theory question for the gurus:

    In reviewing Tyler Durden’s clip and some of Style’s clips, I wonder if the principle of congruence suggests that a pua should calibrate his degree of aloofness to the degree of his inherent alpha traits. Both Durden and Style are not particularly tall or great looking, but not ugly. But Durden particularly seems to emphasize his ability to empathize and connect with people in his outlook. I’m not suggesting that he’s a beta suckup at all, but he seems to emphasize having a positive state of mind, using humor.

    I’m wondering if this aloof and funny niceguy approach is better for guys that aren’t tall, wealthy, famous, or noticeably good looking. If you do possess those alpha traits, then perhaps you should calibrate more towards the cold, aloof asshole side of the spectrum. But if you’re average or below average in those traits, then the theory would suggest that Durden’s approach is more congruent and would play more to one’s strengths.

    Some may suggest the opposite: the more average or below average you are on height, looks, wealth or fame, the MORE aloof you should be. My thought is that this is essentially a form of the Napoleon complex, and I have personally seen women ridicule men who engage in this. Curious what other posters think on this question.

    [Heartiste: Aloofness is not practiced solitude. Even men blessed with height and looks will have to eventually bustamove to getthegirl. I actually think beta males — that is, men who are either shorter, uglier, or more prone to supplicative behavior — would do well to master the art of having an outcome independent attitude. A positive state of mind and humor (and playful teasing and parlor games) are tools to generate attraction in women, but they don’t necessarily contradict acting with an aloof attitude. TD is a high-strung entertainer, but he’s also outcome independent, and that comes across in how well he handles shit tests and other assorted female mind games.]

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    • on January 24, 2013 at 11:56 am BetaForLife

      i used to immediately and without a second thought, dismiss all my disqualifications. i think maybe alphas dont have those mental disqualifications in the first place.

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      • on January 25, 2013 at 9:52 am gunslingergregi

        nobodys life is perfect ya just think maybe the grass is greener everyone has some disualifications everyone got something that would fuck them up its just how you handle the shit
        i think its human nature or something that even if you get everything you want and life is perfect you come up with something else to strive for.
        something else you don’t have
        confidense is the key
        and like has been said on this site fake it till you got it
        but there should be some things about yourself you should be able to feel confident about or create some shit.
        there are people who can’t afford a pack of cigs when they want one if you can be confident about that
        when you have nothing the little lifes pleasured like having heat in your house are big fucking deals
        when you don’t have basic necesities like food its a big fucking deal to eat something
        so yea there always can be something to build confidense without it being irrational he he he

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    • on January 25, 2013 at 6:32 am Matthew King (King A)

      Both Durden and Style are not particularly tall or great looking, but not ugly. But Durden particularly seems to emphasize his ability to empathize and connect with people in his outlook. … I’m wondering if this aloof and funny niceguy approach is better for guys that aren’t tall, wealthy, famous, or noticeably good looking.

      Ding ding ding. We have a winner.

      Owen the Canadian Cook choosing the nickname “Tyler Durden” is a tell: (Fight Club SPOILERS) there’s a raging id in every man seeking to come out and make its mark on the world, no matter what the guy’s actual status/stature is.

      And before the runts come out of their hovels to give me shit about “King A,” it is a high school derivative along the lines of the nickname “Bear” Grylls, given to him by his sister when he was a toddler because of his teddy bear.

      I’m wondering if this aloof and funny niceguy approach is better for guys that aren’t tall, wealthy, famous, or noticeably good looking. If you do possess those alpha traits, then perhaps you should calibrate more towards the cold, aloof asshole side of the spectrum.

      You’re on the right track about this, but there is a hint of sexist prejudice here: men are so overwhelmingly driven by a woman’s physical traits that they falsely attribute their drives to what women find attractive, even in subtle and limited ways, even in abstract generalizations such as yours. You’re theorizing like a dude imagining what women find attractive in dudes. Just a little.

      Men with outwardly attractive characteristics are attractive because they are reliable indicators of the inner confidence/outer command that vulvae weep for. But that impression can be shattered in an instant:


      (It’s real, I promise.)

      It’s not so much “bustamove” as it is continuing the congruence with your good first impression. Owen Cook is matching an attractive personality to his physical type and thereby overcoming a potential stumbling block. But the “cold, aloof asshole” can work for little guys with a consistent enough frame. As much as a girl will always deduct points for the physical traits, she still values the genuine “Napoleon” inside more than men can typically imagine.

      Yes, little-twerp big-talkers are easy to make fun of like loud-barking chiuauas — the jokes write themselves. But that’s because insecurity is being projected, rather than confidence and command. Omegas are “aloof” too, but for a very different interior reason than an alpha’s, and that vibe projects to a girl on the hunt in ways that dudes don’t miss so much as dismiss out of envy.

      Matt

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  37. on January 24, 2013 at 10:42 am Erudite Knight

    Ive found telling a random but funny story in the early stage really helps. Esp. if it is about a friend you were with, that way if she thinks its bad or whatever she will blame the friend and enjoy the humor.

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  38. on January 24, 2013 at 12:04 pm taterearl

    Alpha of the month? Not so much because of women…but running 4 miles in 40 below weather with only a t-shirt and shorts. Then saying it wasn’t that far.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2266483/Valery-Malkov-survives-falling-Siberian-train-running-FOUR-MILES-40C-temperatures-wearing-just-T-shirt-shorts-slippers.html

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  39. on January 24, 2013 at 12:09 pm Ollie

    “Shaming fat people into losing weight is the only way to solve obesity epidemic, leading health academic claims.”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2267715/Shaming-fat-people-losing-weight-way-solve-obesity-epidemic-leading-health-academic-claims.html

    Fat shaming: It’s a celebration of life.

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    • on January 25, 2013 at 6:03 am Nicole

      You can see how it has worked so well over the past 50 years.

      Still, this is a good example to remind people of the real feminist agenda. The new fat acceptance (after over 100 years of “gender is a social construct and therefore women should not carry any extra bodyfat and should strive for a more athletic and masculine physique because fertility is not important-we-mean won’t be affected no-wait isn’t important”) is just a ruse to recruit a class of women they alienated in the past. Shaming will just send people to the $urgeon, and your tax dollars will end up paying for millions of unnecessary operations, drugs, and other quackery.

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  40. on January 24, 2013 at 12:49 pm Anonymous

    No: What’s your sign?
    Yes: Bring da movies… you like spanking?

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  41. on January 24, 2013 at 12:57 pm The Dissident

    If you catch yourself forming the “where” with your mouth, immediately change it to “Where in the world would you go right now if you could go anywhere?” No matter what the answer, respond: “Ya’know, that’s the second most popular response I get to that question.” She will naturally ask what the most popular is. Smile and say: “My place, but I’m glad you didn’t go there. I need more of a challenge than that.”

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  42. on January 24, 2013 at 1:56 pm RouteBackwards

    I learned from a woman, of all people, that asking why was an excellent way to challenge her.

    I thought I was asking basic conversation questions by asking “why” questions, and I thought this was common knowledge, but she ended up telling me after a hardcore fuck session that she liked me because I always challenged her whenever she brought shit up that she’s done and I reflected and realized all I was doing was asking her why she did what she did.

    Moral of the the story:
    Don’t underestimate the power of why.

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    • on January 24, 2013 at 10:21 pm Erik Roar

      Makes me wonder if asking why means something else to women then it does to men. So men asking why is to understand but it’s a challenge to a woman from what I’m getting so far.

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      • on January 25, 2013 at 3:39 pm sfer

        “Why questions” indicate status among men too. people don’t generally ask their bosses “why questions”. Nor do parents like it when their kids ask them “why questions”. Higher status people don’t have to explain themselves to lower status people, but lower status people have to explain themselves to higher status people all the time.

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      • on January 26, 2013 at 8:52 pm Erik Roar

        Okay, makes sense when put that way. Would explain why when I was younger at an old job some of my immediate bosses did not like me.

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  43. on January 24, 2013 at 2:55 pm scholarsvoices@gmail.com

    You know, in retrospect I didn’t do badly with “you’re interesting, where are you from?” But that was in an environment where people were from a dozen different countries; in a club it’d be moronic. But then, I don’t do the club scene, so context counts.

    GENERALLY, I gotta agree, those are some dull-ass questions.

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  44. on January 24, 2013 at 3:23 pm Ouroboros

    “Don’t be boring” is easier said than done, to be honest.

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    • on January 24, 2013 at 4:08 pm Anon

      You gotta be in “the zone” for longer periods. That’s all.

      It’s more difficult for introverts, but with practice, it become kinda easier. No tricks or canned material are required. Just let the masculine beast inside take charge.

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  45. on January 24, 2013 at 4:03 pm gunslingergregi

    watching my putty do klegals kind of freaky
    its alive its ALIVVVVEEEEE!!!!!!!
    she can make the hole open and close on command
    klegals for 12 years

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  46. on January 24, 2013 at 4:13 pm gunslingergregi

    my chick says i asked her where she went to school about three months after i met her cause someone else wanted to know then we fucked like rabbits. She said the article reminded her of when we first met
    thnk ch

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  47. on January 24, 2013 at 4:52 pm Ace Haley

    I really like CH’s posts but the #1 reason I come here is some of the commenters. A lot of the stuff they have to say is GOLD. Coming from a guy who used to ask those 7 questions one after the other, I’d know lol

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  48. on January 24, 2013 at 4:58 pm frozenpie77

    Speaking of questions, I’ve got one:

    So I’m talking to a girl on the phone today, and right off the bat she says, “Oh, I’m so pissed off right now.” I ask why.

    [Heartiste: This might be the one time not to ask a girl why. Now you’ve given her permission to vent about some asshole.]

    She replies, “So I’ve been talking to this hot guy, but he’s been a dick, so I just told him to delete my number and stuff.”

    [Called it. (I swear I didn’t read ahead.)]

    I answer, “Ah. Well you should go ahead and delete his, too.” She said she did.

    [Wrong answer. Better answer: “If you want couples therapy I charge by the hour.”]

    So is this her testing me?

    {Maybe. Or maybe you’re already in the friend zone and you just don’t realize it yet.]

    Saying she is focused on me? What’s the deal?

    [Did she say she was focused on you? Who knows what that means, and you really shouldn’t care what she means anyhow. The only meaning that matters is the mean length of your penis in her vagina. Have you inserted your penis in her vagina? No? Then she’s speaking female words, and those carry about as much weight as helium. Get her face to face and gauge her interest in you by her mannerisms. But do it on your own time. Don’t go rushing to her like an affection starved puppy.]

    And how should I handle situations like this for future ref?

    [Rohypnol. (a feminist shrieked indignantly.)]

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    • on January 24, 2013 at 5:41 pm gunslingergregi

      the only problem with telling her to delete his number too is that she allready got the assholes number memorized

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    • on January 24, 2013 at 5:51 pm doug

      Don’t ask Why when the chick is fishing for it

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    • on January 24, 2013 at 5:57 pm guy dudebro

      hey…
      how’s it going?
      oh I’m so pissed off right now…
      my dog died
      oh I’m so sorry
      yeah I’m gonna miss sparky
      that is so sad, do you need anything
      bring the movies and some food I don’t get paid till Friday

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    • on January 24, 2013 at 7:02 pm Anon

      Did H just meant… RAPE! ?

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    • on January 25, 2013 at 7:03 am immoralgables

      Lol Heartiste I find tons of value when you edit comments and add your insights. Saving lives.

      Great stuff and great post!

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  49. on January 24, 2013 at 5:07 pm lisa

    I don’t always like the advice that this blog gives (well, I dont resent it like the feminists do, but I wouldn’t always like to be on the receiving end of it), but YES on asking why. If every man would just ask me why, start a debate, something, my dating life would be so much better.

    I think this is also one that works great whether a man just wants sex or is potentially interested in a relationship. The latter because it indicates just the right amount of respect for her. A guy being her yes man respects her more than she deserves, a man who never acknowledges what she says seems like he just doesn’t care or respect her at ALL, which is a no for serious dating, but I think asking why shows just the right amount of respect (even if its fake.)

    This is something so many beta males get wrong but its so simple. When you hang out with a buddy, do you just say “yes sir” to everything he says, and still expect to be seen as the dominant one in the group? Well it doesn’t make any more sense with a woman. But the asking why without agreeing with her first, keeps you challenging, like you’re interviewing her to see if she’s smart enough for you. I know you don’t take women’s opinions on dating as true, but I can tell you the one thing I am most sure of, is that when a woman is scrambling to impress YOU, it will never even cross her mind to reject you. Great advice! I hope more men do use it, its quite exciting as a woman to have a date who challenges me like that and makes me feel intellectually insecure, and its extremely rare to find!

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    • on January 24, 2013 at 7:05 pm Anon

      “I know you don’t take women’s opinions on dating as true”

      No, I just think that women’s opinions on dating are ridiculous.

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      • on January 24, 2013 at 9:28 pm Anon

        Actually, the whole concept of “woman’s opinion” is ridiculous.

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    • on January 24, 2013 at 7:21 pm PetiteOlive

      this.

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    • on January 24, 2013 at 9:10 pm Kate

      ” its quite exciting as a woman to have a date who challenges me like that and makes me feel intellectually insecure, and its extremely rare to find!”

      Its a relief not to have to be the smart one. It allows you to actually, you know, have fun! 🙂

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      • on January 25, 2013 at 6:18 am Nicole

        Oh, if I could shut you in a room for 10 minutes with my last boyfriend, you would emerge covered in blood and completely unaware of what transpired within the first five minutes and why you have the battered stump of a noodle arm clutched in your hand.

        It is important for a man to be reasonably intelligent, but the higher intelligence once you get to the 140+ range, the more they tend to over-think sexuality and have debilitating fetishes. It’s better to find a guy who is moderately intelligent but well read and has a strong sense of responsibility and leadership qualities…a doer and feeler, more than a thinker.

        Engineers tend to be in the “just right” range for an intelligent woman, but the sort with sufficient masculinity are usually going to be in jobs that keep them away often. You might have to get used to the idea that there might be a couple more just like you in various parts of the world. You’ll keep your place if you demonstrate that you can keep your head, and don’t become distant or jealous.

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    • on January 25, 2013 at 6:50 am Matthew King (King A)

      If every man would just ask me why, start a debate, something, my dating life would be so much better.

      Hmm. So, you’re saying that women like conflict and drama? They’re maybe even addicted to it? Contrived drama works just as well as the real thing?

      TELL US MORE.

      It[‘]s quite exciting as a woman to have a date who challenges me like that and makes me feel intellectually insecure, and it[‘]s extremely rare to find!

      Please, don’t flatter yourself. That’s my job. (To flatter myself.)

      Your entire observation can be expressed more simply as, “I want to be dominated.” All the other words are circumlocutions around your girl boner.

      If you disagree, I am very interested in knowing why you feel that way.

      Matt

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  50. on January 24, 2013 at 5:49 pm yaser

    Obesity per state:

    Red/blue states:

    The blue states, ie republicans, are the fat ones. This surprised me, but when i think about it, it’s the redneck white trash that are fat, while the urban chicks want to be hot.

    This highlights the need for a “health, fit and competitive conservative” ideal.

    Or am i missing something?

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  51. on January 24, 2013 at 7:53 pm A Charming Rapist

    Hey guys, let me just say right off the bat this blog is the shit and so is all the commenter input. Thanks for giving me a retreat from this increasingly grim reality I live in.

    I was hoping for some advice: sometime in my mid-20’s I became a serious workaholic, even to the point where I sometimes work 2 full-time jobs. I have no illusions about why I am this way: I do it to escape or deflect loneliness and depression. I’ve become quite isolated as a result of it, though I never really had much of a social life to begin with. Now approaching 30, and Game-aware, I’m wondering if I’m wasting my time. Sure, it’s nice to get money, but I don’t even know what my endgame is.
    So what’s more important to you guys, working hard and becoming financially sufficient, or practicing Game and aqcuiring notches? For me anyway, focusing on one leaves very little time for the other. Keep in mind I’m not looking for any kind of relationship; even before swallowing the red pill I knew that marrying an American woman was like eating a bullet, only worse. Still, I get twangs of unhappiness here and there. I want to be able to relax and enjoy myself with a girl every now and then.

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    • on January 25, 2013 at 1:34 pm Erik Roar

      You need to answer that question of what is more important to you. Either one won’t mean a damn thing if it doesn’t make you happier. Maybe you should ask yourself are you happy with the way things are now.

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    • on January 25, 2013 at 3:28 pm YaReally

      http://touch.dailymotion.com/video/x1wq26_pua-tribute-to-sarging-by-loverboy_people

      If you’re posting, your brain is starting to realize that you’re missing something. The good news is that it’s not too late to start living your life. It’s all in your control. 🙂

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    • on January 25, 2013 at 4:01 pm yaser

      Get religious, or fake it till you make it.

      Game+Cash+Virgin Godfearing wife/s = awesomeness

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      • on January 25, 2013 at 4:03 pm yaser

        ofc, never announce the weddings to the state. No higher authority than God is needed.

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  52. on January 24, 2013 at 7:58 pm Bourbon Apocalypse: A Whiskey Son of Sorrow

    Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your computer screens:

    As we strive to make our calling and election sure, we must continue to make explicit all that is implicit in Monsieur Heartiste’s advice (i.e., the eduction of seduction). Unfortunately, the ice continues to melt in my bourbon, so I have time only to offer in good faith the video “Summer of ’69” by Bryan Adams, a study in contrasts. Yes, I know. However, as a (wayward) Thomist of love, I appreciate dark truths whenever/wherever I find them. Moment 1:24 captures the Alpha Attitude. Moment 0:50 reveals the Beta Folly. I presented that backwards chronologically but right way ontologically. Moment 3:16 to the end of the video reveals the treasures that await those who persevere. Watch. Sing along (you know the lyrics). Learn. Love one another.

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  53. on January 24, 2013 at 10:38 pm yaser

    “you have … no right … to make me feel like that”

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    • on January 24, 2013 at 10:46 pm yaser

      Louis giving PUA tips?

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      • on January 25, 2013 at 4:25 am yaser

        wrong link, never mind the doll scene:

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      • on January 25, 2013 at 11:54 am gunslingergregi

        like we could ever forget the doll scene crazo
        he he he

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  54. on January 24, 2013 at 10:39 pm Anonymous

    Heartiste, I dont know if you mentioned this already, but what about replies? Here is my contribution:

    Girl: “where are you from?”
    Me: “havent decided yet”

    Girl: “[Any question that is not a “yes” or “no” type]”
    Me: “Yes”

    What’d ya think? Thats all I got for now

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  55. on January 25, 2013 at 5:01 am Anonymous

    Please do a BOTM on the Colorado governor:

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/colorado-governor-my-wife-offered-stay-me-had-i-run-president_697643.html

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/20/opinion/sunday/love-marriage-and-voters.html

    Hickenlooper is grateful to his separated wife for saying that she would hypothetically stay married to him if he ran for president. Read the whole thing. It’s depressing because it shows the manosphere has made no dent in the manboob political situation.

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    • on January 25, 2013 at 5:14 am Anonymous

      CH is going to want to be found more often in searches by using names that are in the news, especially those names that will trigger alerts from the handlers of a politician or politico journalists. Followups on the same topic with the same searched-for words will cause this site to be considered an authority on that particular topic. The effect of the followup can catapult this site from being one of one thousand blogs that are considered to have mentioned the topic to one of 10 blogs that seem to be experts, or at least heavy providers of information, on the subject.

      So it pays to go after manboob politicos and stay on their case especially since it doesn’t take too much effort to write a quick followup that says your blog is serious about the topic of particular ones.

      Suggestions for followups would include Assange’s case and VAWA. Google will see the old articles you wrote and consider your blog more relevant on those subjects than most blogs. You may also want to do enough Rand Paul mentions to be considered a good source on the topic by the search engines.

      He’s gunning for president in 2016 and you want the ear of his handlers.

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    • on January 25, 2013 at 3:58 pm yaser

      omfg…

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  56. on January 25, 2013 at 8:06 am When Speaking with a Girl… DO NOT INTERVIEW HER | 3rd Millenium Men

    […] Update: Heartiste has a great post propounding the exact same advice, saying to shun the stale 7 questions…: […]

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  57. on January 25, 2013 at 8:07 am 3rd Millenium Men

    Great stuff Heartiste. This exactly mirrors what I wrote 2 months ago – when speaking with a girl, do not interview her!!!

    Stop interviewing girls. They’ve heard it all a million times before.

    Try this technique the next time you’re having a conversation with someone to see the dynamics completely change. It’s simple… ready for it?

    Don’t ask questions.

    That’s it. When someone says something to you, reply with a statement, weave it tangentially to something else they were saying. Look at them expectantly, like you’re waiting for them to reply. If they have any conversational ability, they will.

    Instead of asking a question, say something along the lines of “tell me about the most amazing experience you had travelling in X. Really describe it to me”. Girls love this type of thing.

    http://3rdmilleniummen.wordpress.com/2012/11/28/when-speaking-with-a-girl-do-not-interview-her/

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  58. on January 25, 2013 at 11:44 am dannyfrom504

    i commented earlier. and it got spammed. 1- thanks for quoting me. 2- let me explain.

    instead of asking her one of the 7 boring questions. ask her about her ear-rings. ask her WHY she chose them. her answer is irrelevant. respond with, “huh…well i approve. they draw attention to your eyes. i like that.”

    do the same with ANY accessory she may be wearing. typical responses i use are-

    well i like that color, it brings out your eyes/hair.

    great area to compliment are: eyes, neck, hair, shoulders. NO ONE notices those.

    stay up

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  59. on January 25, 2013 at 2:00 pm Templar

    I prefer:
    What is your name?
    What is your quest?
    What is the average airspeed velocity of an unlaiden swallow?

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  60. on January 27, 2013 at 12:00 am Was Frauen bei Männern hassen « Alles Evolution

    […] Auf Heartiste wird ein kurzer Rat bezüglich der Vorlieben von Frauen gegeben: […]

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  61. on January 30, 2013 at 1:03 am Lightning Round – 2013/01/30 « Free Northerner

    […] the stale 7 questions; ask “why?” instead. This is excellent advice I’m gonna try to […]

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  62. on February 23, 2013 at 10:18 pm misterinfinite

    Too many dudes try to relate to women like they would to their male friends. The stale seven is a perfect example of this. A female’s perspective is entirely different than your own. Treat her like a woman, not a man.

    http://welcometothelifestyle.wordpress.com/2013/02/23/relating-from-man-to-woman/

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