It looks like a bipartisan (read: bi-part the American public’s buttcheeks and ram it home hard) effort by legislators is about to lead to total amnesty for tens of millions of illegal infiltrators (as Israel’s government classifies similar migrants crossing their borders), in exchange for promises — promises! — of stricter border control in the distant future.
Do you ever get the feeling that we live in two Americas? America One, the status whoring playground and experimental lab of the ruling class. America Two, the masses of common sensical, decent people serving as guinea pigs for America One’s pleasure.
So Democrats want new voters and a lock on elections for the next fifty generations. Republicans want cheap chalupas and kickbacks to their corporate sponsors. And the public wants a solvent, livable country again, filled with like-minded people they can trust and count on to be there when the old age SHTF.
Guess who always gets what they want?
Take a stand. Notify your congressional representative, aka Filthy Fuck, of your displeasure with their august body’s program of de facto genocide against the founding and maintaining stock of the once-great American nation.
Not that this will do any good, because the ruling class has no interest in listening to the rabble; in fact, they seem to be of a mind lately to sneer at the rabble and to take joy in sticking it to them good and hard. But at least they’ll be put on notice.
What notice, you ask? Why, the notice of revolution. The notice of secession. The notice that their time, however gaudily invincible it appears right now, will come to an end, and if they were on the wrong side of this simmering intra-white status war they can expect retribution; swift, remorseless, unforgiving, and as gleefully and cruelly administered as the punishment they currently lord over their putative compatriots.
There’s more than two Americas, as we’ll soon see…
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F*ck all of this horsesh*t about “protesting” and “calling your Congressman” and sending money to some God-d@mned Washington DC lobbying organization.
If you sorry sons of beeyotches aren’t living at GunsAmerica and GunBroker and Armslist and Backpage, stocking up on your 22LRs and your 308 WINs and your 300 WIN MAGs and your 338 Lapuas and your 12-gauges, then you’re just a bunch of pansy-@ssed limp-wristed euro-ph@ggots who are about to be f*cked in the @ss by Lloyd Blankfein & Charles Shumer & Michael Doomberg & Rahm “The Ph@ggot Ballerina” Emanuel.
The sh*t’s about to get real – it won’t be much longer now – and there’s only two words you need to know: Molon labe, Mother F*cker, Molon labe.
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Those of us who don’t live in SWPL areas already know the shit has been real for a long fucking while now. One need only set foot in places like Detroit, Atlanta, Chicago, Philadelphia, Birmingham, Baltimore, Oakland, Memphis, Louisville…other than that, welcome to the war bro.
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The modern US is now reduced to a shrinking set of regions. Elite fortress city-states like Manhattan, Frisco and Washington DC – and servant’s areas providing support.
The elite may gripe about paying taxes to support The Welfare State, but it’s only for show: They accept it as the New Reality.
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You can write god damned, faggot, ass, fucked, butthex etc. here, this is not the PC Pussy parade. No need to besmirch the good @ character.
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Slow down, man. Your eagerness will get you killed/persecuted for nothing.
And if you’re determined to play John Brown at Harpers Ferry (know your history), you’ll have to come across as more sober than you are now, or else you’ll just be one more “nut” on the margins which the country will be glad to extinguish, rather than the martyr who fired the opening shot in a righteous, broad-based revolution.
At the same time, men hope for the best and literally prepare for the worst. It is good to have a pessimistic imagination. But it is also essential to keep perspective. There are a series of concentric circles emanating out of the prepared man, and although we are eager for a final resolution on these annoying and potentially catastrophic margins, we have to exhaust every option closest to us before taking the next step. That process is essential for widespread support, which keeps you from sacrificing for nothing.
Yes, write your congressmen. But also be prepared for when they betray you. We are still several levels away from Locke’s Right to Revolution.”
Our energy is best spent separating ourselves federally from the consequences of blue-state policy, through revived statehouses and a resurrection of the tenth amendment. To establish border security not just along international lines but interstate lines as well.
That means maintaining a serious (if not majority) presence at the federal level to disrupt the promulgation of bad policies more than an attempt to establish good ones — which this estrogenated electorate is simply not prepared to do (see last November). Well, what the national electorate isn’t prepared to do is different from what thirty separate state electorates are not just prepared to do but are already doing. The trick therefore is to found regional alliances beginning at your locality. We thereby slow the leviathan down until the states can warm up a response in kind, as they are doing in Wisconsin, North Dakota, and Texas.
Keep in mind that we are still a majority, a big, distracted, fractured majority which is momentarily outmaneuvered and dispersed, but a majority nonetheless. Do any of you know any grown white men who are falling for any of this for a second? Our cohort is 65% (anti-Obama) of 72% (white electorate that bothered to vote). Theirs is a quiltwork pastiche of incompetents, layabouts, and whiny victims who vote as if their life depended on it. A few nudges here and there from mid-level leadership, and we will tap into a subterranean force bigger than the Bakken Shale, just waiting to be fracked to the surface.
Leave the suicide bombing, empty activism, and loud grievance mongering to the brown masses. That is how stupid savages fight. We win if we have patience and pick our opportunities. Happily, that is the forte of the white man, and it is why, despite the SWPL’s best efforts, we haven’t eroded our position very much yet. No, the trajectory is not cause for celebration — Reagan got a landslide on similar proportions, but we lost a squeaker in 2012 because white percentage of the electorate dropped from 85% to 72%.
Seventy-two percent is nothing to despair over — yet — especially when their arrogance has begun rousing us into action. And our brand of action is the Teddy Roosevelt kind — soft speaking, big stick. No hissy fits, no hysterical sudden movements, just a watchful eye as we muster and wait for the Main Chance. What fool will then rise in opposition to a woken giant?
Matt
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you man i should have been buying arms instead of:
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A man after my own heart, only they should have done that months ago. Most gun stores these days look like they have been hit with a swarm of locusts.
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fat american ranting.
Meanwhile… in muslim countries…
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This is my line in the sand. I’ll go to D.C. and protest in front of the White House if I have to before they ram amnesty through. Hopefully both Dems and Repubs, left and right can rally together on this one, because it will royally screw every American citizen no matter their class, creed or race.
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“because it will royally screw every American citizen no matter their class, creed or race.”
Exactly right! It’s mindboggling that most Americans can’t seem to understand that any immigration, legal or illegal, is not in their best interest. We don’t need more people here. We got plenty, even enough cheap labor for the corporations.
Ch says: “Republicans want cheap chalupas and kickbacks to their corporate sponsors. “
It’s not just cheap labor that corporations want, they also want more consumers they can sell to. They want more people going to malls and to Wal-Mart and Target-type stores, and more people to sell cheap services to like expensive car insurances, payday loans, prepaid cellphones, and other crap. Corporations are not thinking about what’s good for the country, just what’s good for them, and they lobby the Federal government and the Satate very hard. One of the reasons we have so much legislation in this country is the result of corporate lobbying. Corporations lobby both the Dems and the Rep equally. In fact, most of Obama’s support came from Corporation in 2008.
The radical left on one side and the selfish corporations on the other side are engaged in an unholy alliance, while all of us regular folks are sandwiched in the middle. The middle class is always made to bear every bad decision. I’m surprised most people are still asleep at the wheel. People should start waking up already. If Congress feels it’s OK to grant amnesty, it means they know people just don’t care. That’s why we get the government we deserve. That’s why this country is going to be destroyed within a few decades. It’s the modern fall of Rome. No question about it.
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+1 on last paragraph.
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The best organization to fight out of control immigration is numbersusa.com Join their network. They have an automated faxing system that let’s you go online and choose faxes on your billboard, customize the messages and hit a button. The faxes automatically go to your representatives.
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I think it would have more impact to write something personally instead of just spamming some prepared thing.
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You can customize the whole thing or parts of it. Try it and you’ll see.
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I’m on numbersusa.com already. They give you the option to edit and personalize your fax, so it’s not a copy-paste deal. More importantly, they keep a hawk’s-eye on shamnesty supporters’ shenanigans in real time.
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In 2007, I wrote what I wanted my reps to know, made 49 copies, put them on the fax and hit send. After it sent those 50, I dialed my next number and did the same… lather, rinse, repeat.
We stopped it then, we can do it again.
NumbersUSA is great!
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And it’s happening almost everywhere, although I think the Muslim immigration in Europe is a lot worse. As Brecht (although a lefty) wrote
“Would it not be easier
In that case for the government
To dissolve the people
And elect another?”
Seems like today’s politicians are doing just that.
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“I think the Muslim immigration in Europe is a lot worse.”
Don’t worry, as soon as they grant the Mesoamerican his amnesty, the gates would remain open to every terrorist trash thinking about landing on our shores to dump his “good cheer” around. In other words, more Muslims are also coming our way.
It won’t be long until all these immigrants take over the country. They have already votes BHO for president twice, a man who wasn’t raised here with red-blooded Americans and doesn’t have a clue about our culture. Why would we think this will change? We really need to secede, but even the “conservative” states aren’t conservative enough, and they too have all kinds of moochers that have immigrated there in recent years and are tilting the demographics left. For instance, TX is said to become liberal before the end of the decade. Too many black Katrina survivors and liberals from California have moved there in the last 5-8 years. So the whole population in the country is shifting and spreading, that even conservative states will become liberal within a few short years.
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No, it is not happening almost everywhere! It is only happening to white countries and only white countries. It is called white genocide. Yes, it is happening.
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Jewish “Conservatives” Urge Obama to Move on “Comprehensive Immigration Reform”
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2013/01/jewish-conservatives-urge-obama-to-move-on-comprehensive-immigration-reform/
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They are urging Obama because they are not really conservatives. They are like the John McCain of conservative Jews. Just because some conservative Jews are a little bit right of-center and not totally on the Right, doesn’t mean there are no Jews who are much more conservative and against amnesty completely.
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Yes, I wasn’t precise enough in my wording.
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Oh great ‘Tiste, lead us into battle against the vicious cathedral and their thralls! I beseech thee!
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We also have to reduce legal immigration, to protect our wildlands.
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We need to have no immigration, unless you are a scientist or a performer and you’re here to contribute. If you’re here to find a job to feed your 6 kids, this is not the place. If that’s your situation, stay in your own country and change things there. Have a revolution in your own country if you don’t like the way things are. Don’t come here and ask us to accommodate your troubles. It’s unbelievable; everyone with financial troubles and a grievance against America comes here. The whole world can’t settle here. People need to improve their own home countries as we have improved ours. We had a revolution when we didn’t like how things went. They need to do it for themselves. The trouble is they don’t want to change their home countries; they want to come here and re-shape ours in their screwed-up image.
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I think we should let in lots of Ukrainian and Russian women and anyone from Europe without his head up his ass, there are still a lot of them.
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I heard Russian women are very subservient and they take care of their men. Maybe that’s why they are so much in demand?
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They may be somewhat subservient, but they won’t care that much for you.
Polish and Czech girls? Yeah, maybe… Russian/Eastern Ukrainian girls? The moment she has doubts, she becomes cold as the Siberian winter.
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You need relationship game for success. What you say about FSU women is also true about all women. Once they doubt your status as a man, you’re shit is always weak. You can’t be a pussy with these FSU women. You have to go badass on them occassionally just so they respect you. They love a strong hand though.
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My wife is simply reasonable, considerate, and easy to deal with and not selfish. Subservient is a misnomer for angry feminists. She has a very good deal herself and appreciates what I do for her and vice versa. It’s more like how we all grew up expecting marriage to be like.
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Tyrone, some women have a very good disposition and mindset. They are content, which is why they are also emotionally generous, considerate, and compassionate. I think contentment is lacking with many people in our society, especially women because they are not living according to their innate natures, and that’s why they are feeling empty inside becoming resentful and frustrated and totally irrational.
So it’s just possible you won the lotto with this one since she is very good natured. The problem is most women nowadays are not like her, even from Eastern European countries. The reason is that we export our feminist American culture via entertainment, and it has been emulated by most western and Christian countries, so foreign women have been very influenced by American women.
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You’re right, most women but especially feminists, want a real man and they act differently when they find one too. It’s more a question of game than culture.
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Heh, I live in that part of Europe (on the EU side though), and let me tell you that the Cathedral is treating us Eastern European Whites like we’re garbage. I can only imagine how much harder it is to obtain a visa if you’re Ukrainian.
The US is the only country for which, if I want to obtain even a tourist visa, I have to personally go to their embassy and be interrogated by the cathedral deacons. And wait some 3 hours on arrival for the immigration check. It was a lot easier for me to obtain a visa for “communist” China.
I find it insulting that us White tourists with money are treated a lot worse than Mexicans crossing the border illegally. To top it off, the UK branch of the cathedral is openly saying “if you’re Eastern European, you’re not welcome here”. This would be totally understandable if London weren’t full of Negroes and Muslims. But it’s always the “Polish plumber” who is stealing the Brits’ jobs, but the Negro or Muslim thief and welfare recipient is always forgiven; otherwise it would be racist.
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“This would be totally understandable if London weren’t full of Negroes and Muslims. But it’s always the “Polish plumber” who is stealing the Brits’ jobs, but the Negro or Muslim thief and welfare recipient is always forgiven; otherwise it would be racist.”
Well said. It’s all about guilt, and not being called as racist. Same in the US. If you are a law abiding tax paying citizen, you can’t qualify for 80% of all benefits illegals get, from free healthcare to university education. This liberal/leftist mindset is wrong, wrong, wrong.
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This completely pisses me off too. They bend over backwards and shit on their own people to avoid the RACIST! label. I lost complete respect for Europe over this issue and the US is no better, even worse.
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How can you expect the potential immigrants to not want to come across when our own government touts foodstamps, welfare, free healthcare (psh) and all the other things that we, the taxpayers, pay for, in THEIR language. Think back recently to the spanish language commercials that got pulled telling illegals how to get foodstamps.
A lot of it is lack of enforcement; they come here on a visa, it expires, they don’t leave, and since we only track who comes in and not who goes out, no one ever makes them leave because no one even knows whether they are still here or not.
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No, we can’t do that. See, there’s this Jewish billionaire, not that being Jewish has anything to do with anything, calls himself “David Gelbaum” (oy, these names) who bought off the Sierra Club with a $100million donation, conditional upon their NEVER discussing immigration.
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Yup, sounds kosher enough. Move along citizen, nothin’ to see here. Don’t look at that greasy fat rat faced motherfucker behind the curtain laughing all the way to bank.
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LOZLZLZLZLZLZLZLZLZOZOZOZOZOZ!!!!lLZlZLZLZL
that’s a good goy
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Stop blaming the J for everything. For every rich J billionaire, there is a Bill Gates or a Warren Buffet also hard at work ruining the country. Therefore, we need to look for the real reasons to blame. The J is an easy scapegoat for you unimaginative idiots. None of you are original in your thinking. All you do is repeat stupid, unenlightened, fear-mongering middle-ages hate speak. It never solved anything. Look for the true culprit, liberalism, and liberals come from every background, religion, creed, color, and socio-economic group. Even if all 6 million J left America tomorrow, still half the country is leftist. Don’t forget, half the country voted for Obama. Don’t make the mistake of taking out your anger and frustration on the J, while you overlook the real ominous threat hanging over our head.
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Sigh. It’s just not the same without Greg. Amirite?
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Finally, I have you all to myself without Greg buttfucking you behind every comment. 🙂
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I knew it was sublimated jealousy. Now show me the pink, twat.
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Now that I have you, I don’t want you. Sorry. Your nostalgic longing for your beloved has given me a headache.
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You realized you just provided proof that most women only want what they can’t have and aren’t interested once the chase is over?
Sigh…
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I thought I felt a vacuum (no, not my Dyson)… my white white knight, as he so gallantly refers to himself.
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LOL! Of course I realize that, and it was by design. I was trying to make a joke that now after Matt is “available” I don’t want him anymore – a predictable woman behavior. His nostalgic longing for his Beloved is just an excuse though, as I think he is finally getting over his “ex,” my competition. 🙂
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Oh, I know! I was being facetious. 😉
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It solved pretty much everything in my country and in Spain. Ignorant…
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What did it solve in your country? It’s still liberal. So it’s still as fucked up as ever.
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hmm I sense a disconnect between the Chateu’s previous subprime indirective of callous indifference. Why join the revolution (so prole!) when we can watch the social fabric tear, sipping our cheap margaritas poolside?
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Fame and fortune.
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No harm in doing both. If I’m going to sit poolside, it’s a lot cheaper to not have to pay for armed guards and security.
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What’s alpha in game is not necessarily what is alpha on the battlefield.
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………..And the betas want a steady supply of underprivileged third worlder’s so far down the social status rank they’re happy to spread even for them…….
But honestly, who cares? I’ve never had half my income stolen by a so called illegal. Never been pulled over and shaken down by one, either. And never had any of them stick a gun in my face to prevent me from myself buying a similar gun to stick right back at him. So, as long as “increased border security” means even one red cent extra to the occupation force that for the duration of my life has done me nothing but all of the above, I’d rather take my chances with the immigrants.
It would be nice if this is finally the straw that breaks the camel’s back, so that even those suckers on the receiving end of hundred years of near universal, publicly funded progressive indoctrination finally recognize that there is not one single sliver of positive anything about the junta in DC. And that they in every single way would be much better off if those scumbuckets were completely eradicated; to be replaced by absolutely nothing. It will happen one day, like it did in Somalia, since it’s not like anything will ever get better otherwise, only worse. And worse. And worse….. And that day couldn’t come soon enough.
Cheers to awakening leading to revolution and the “final solution to the government problem.”
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If you’ve ever had to send 1,000 resumes out to employers before you get a call back, you can thank H1Bs from India and China.
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certainly a fair point, but the elite wants to let in more mexicans and less high-IQ, educated types. This is backwards. We should brain drain, just like after WW2. Long term economic and cultural growth of America benefits by allowing the best and brightest to immigrate and assimilate. However, to insure we don’t crowd out good paying jobs for educated natives, why not link quotas to the unemployment rate?
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Both are bad for the country. Proles need work too. Not everyone is meant to be an engineer. Nothing wrong with raking leaves…unless Pedro does it for $2 an hour, then you’re SOL.
From a Harvard Study: “according to Harvard economist George Borjas a 10% immigration induced increase in the supply of a particular skill group reduced the black wage by 3%, lowered the employment rate of black men by 5% and increased the incarceration rate of blacks by a one percent.”
This has a marked impact on all lower class people, as they cannot move out of increasingly violent neighborhoods full of loitering, bored, angry, low IQ men with no jobs.
But the rich pigs want their $2 an hour maid who will work weekends, so fuck the proles, enjoy your unemployment and increased crime.
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Also, for fuck sake….race matters. I don’t want Mexican illiterates, as much as I don’t want cliquey, Asian geniuses. They take university positions, jobs, entitlements that should otherwise be going to Americans, not to mention that they do not assimilate into the fabric of our country. The culture of our country, our volk, is also important.
But then again, as Trevor Lynch said: “When America was founded, it was an overwhelmingly racially and culturally homogeneous country, but it was never really an organic community in which social inequalities had to justify themselves by serving the common good. Instead, it was a liberal society in which individuals, who possess “rights” that trump considerations of the common good, sought to enrich themselves by means that a decent society would not have permitted, including slavery.”
I oscillate between wanting to watch it all burn from the sidelines, and trying to take a watering can to the fire : /
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Race only matters to Americans and maybe Aussies and S. Africans. You do know that the white chattering classes of Europe hate our guts and always have. Canadians too. It’s the old monarchist scum shitting on the (small r) republicans. This is why I chuckle when the “race realists” mention Europe as if it’s some sort of friendly homeland. Europe is a gun pointed at our hearts.
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Scott,
Race is being more, and more important to Europeans as well.
Marie Le Pen was 3rd on elections in France, Geert Wilders also 3rd in Netherlands, Merkel has openly claimed that this “multiculturalism experiment – has(already) failed”, all of Europe is waking up as well.
Scandinavia, and UK seem to be still asleep, but i doubt will be for long…
Yes western Europe is sometimes pissed at you Americans, but they surely don’t mean it for serious(at least those that matter), they know their influence in USA absent world would be shit.
Also to a common European who knows some moslems, or Hindus or somebody else non westerner, if you ask who do they preffer to work with? Some Kashmiri moslem immigrant or an American?
You Americans are different than us, but so is a French different than a German, while it would(mostly) be displaced to use same analogy on some Kashmiri moslem and French. No matter the difference you still pass rather than a Chinese, or African or Arab…
Yes we have feminist/leftist/liberal forces to fight in Europe and they are more numerous and stronger than those of the right mind, but the tide is turning, as they turn more and more people against them.
If the emigrants would fit in the society and not self ghettoisize rightists wouldn’t have any support from the people, now the emigrants themselves have boosted the right.
P.S.
Canadians always hated you?
How comes that they always jump to war on your side as soon as you start it?
They may have some kind of distate for you, just as europeans, because you run the show, but you are still considered as west – our kin.
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Balkanization, baby, get used to it. Why assimilate when you don’t have to? Just make your own little closed-off community with your own language, culture, traditions, and feed off the government teat while you populate and spread out.
That’s the disconnect between immigrants of the pre- (and) 20th and 21st centuries.
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Scott, we are pissed off at the Cathedral, the ruling class of America; but especially we, Eastern Euros, like hard-working regular Americans. After we got rid of communism we looked at America as model and now we’re sad that you are lagging behind, you aren’t building any more skyscrapers like China, and so on.
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Yelling at Congress works. The Hispanic tide started receding after its peak year in 2007, the last time shamnesty was defeated. There were even newspaper articles for a few years saying that white births were a minority, but it turned out not to be true because Hispanic births dropped by well over 100,000/yr, breaking the back of their increase. Apprehensions at the Mexican border fell from over a million to 300,000/yr.
Unfortunately, apprehensions have ticked up in 2012, and now 0bama is planning on pushing for amnesty, along with the gun control.
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Also make work visa status contingent on an above market salary. If the manpower is really needed economics dictate that a company should pay up.
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I recommend using the numbersusa.com and capsweb.org websites to easily contact your representatives using customizable, pre-written messages on immigration matters. They also provide phone numbers and a prepared script to use when calling. You can also sign up for alerts and updates on upcoming legislation.
Numbers USA
https://www.numbersusa.com/content/
and
Californians For Population Stabilization
http://capsweb.org (Home Page)
http://capsweb.org/wrapper.php?wrapper_id=1&menu_id=5&menu_item_id=19 (the Take Action page)
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If you want some proof that illegal immigration is not a victimless crime you can also check out:
http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/
Scroll through the Crime Victims section to view a growing list of citizens killed by illegals. Every one of those deaths was preventable had the government enforced the law.
http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims_2.html
One of the most egregious examples of how government’s refusal to enforce the law meant terror and death for its citizens is the case of John Lee Malvo – one of the D.C. snipers.
“…Malvo was a foreign national who had been apprehended the previous year. As a stowaway, he was required by law to be immediately deported back to his home country. Instead, the INS overrode the Border Patrol’s designation and released John Lee Malvo upon the unsuspecting American public. Had immigration law been followed by the INS, there would have been no two-man hit team and it is likely that there would have been no devastating series of murders.”
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We’re in an odd sort of cultural Sitzkrieg right now. It’s too late to fix anything, but too early to start shooting.
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Feminism and multiculturalism go hand-in-hand. These are the two main factors that have made it so absurdly hard for the majority of decent white men (“betas”) to get laid and married.
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You like to push the poolside shtick, but underneath it I know you’re a good guy who’ll fight the good fight. Thanks for drawing attention to this.
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“So they’ve got us surrounded? Good! Now we can shoot in any direction, the bastards won’t get away this time!”
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Too late, all the politicians need the Hispanic vote. They’re way nicer than Arabs, count your blessings. It’s not fair, but nothing is, and you lost.
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You’ve seen what happens in these border towns? Mutilated bodies hanging from bridges, decapitations, etc.
I mean, aside from hijacking airplanes and flying them into skyscrapers while NORAD stood down, and causing multiple buildings (even one that wasn’t hit) to free-fall collapse into their own footprints…all mission-controlled from a cave in some God-forsaken desert…aside from that, what has any Arab done that isn’t nice?
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The Arab/Muslim savagery comes from their ideology.
Hispanics are carrying it in their aztec bloodthirsty genes.
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The differences you outlined are correct, but so what? The end result are the same. Both type of emigration shouldn’t be allowed here.
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Latin America has the highest murder rate on the planet. And only white people ever vote for the Stupid Party over the Government Handout Party. Don’t be a moron.
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It’s not even so much the stupid party as the ball-less party. I have more respect for someone who speaks their mind and when confronted, instead of backing down, explains why they said what they said, perhaps corrects a misinterpretation, and doesn’t let their opponent control the narrative. It’s all about the agenda.
I would consider that person more worthy of my vote or support simply for standing by their principles and opinions, rather than crawfishing (not on the really indefensible, retarded stuff, mind you). Of course you KNOW the media is going to reframe everything you say if it doesn’t fit their agenda; if you’re a public figure, speaking about an important issue, you should be well prepared for it.
But Santa Claus is a big part of it, too. If people spent as much time being productive as they do gaming the system, they’d be unbelievably successful. But gaming the system the best is the new status, not actually working for what your have or want.
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It’s not even so much the stupid party as the ball-less party.
Can’t argue with you there. Let’s call it the Stupid Beta Party, then.
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It’s even worse than you state.
Our Federal Government, via the Nation’s “top cop” (Atty General), provides “assault weapons” to the Reconquista Army, while “working with Sheriffs and Police Chiefs” to further the disarming of the flyover citizens. Hard to believe, but there it is, hiding in plain view. Yay Freedom!
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Amnesty and this ^^^^ is all part of the Kosher initiative. Cue bernankified asstomouthcoking whores to start screaming antisemitism in 3, 2, 1…
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Eric Holder is scum – plain and simple. He’s guilty of the murder of all of those Mexicans, shilled for the asshole terrorists at Gitmo while at Covington and as AG cared more about grandstanding for a trial of the asshole terrorists in NYC instead of just holding military tribunal trials and ending them with a .45 to the back of the head.
Worst AG in America’s history.
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“It’s not fair, but nothing is, and you lost.”
Lost? with all due respect, this hasn’t even started yet. In the fairly near future, there are going to be several new countries where the U.S. is now, and that’s when things are going to get interesting. As Peter Brimelow put it almost twenty years ago, the U.S. is going on the rocks, but it’s going to be one Hell of a big wreck, and there will be a lot to salvage.
Too early to call winners and losers – way too early.
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This is so upsetting. Both parties are worth crap. Just another example of the spineless and clueless Republicans. They always end up doing exactly what the Dems want anyway, so why vote for them? We need a new conservative party.
Who is spearheading this garbage legislation? Marco Rubio the Cuban. Why am I not surprised? That’s the problem when you have minorities serving in the House and Senate. Now we’re letting in another 11 million, officially. However, I don’t believe these numbers. I think it’s more like double that, even closer to 30 million illegals. This will ensure more minorities in the Government until eventually the whole country looks something like a 3rd wolrd United Nations assembly. The present Congress is slowly replacing the vision of the Founding Fathers.
Go to any hospital in the country, it’s a microcosm of what’s going on in the entire country, as well as what’s to come. Even in small towns, all you’ll see is illegals in the emergency rooms, and doctors and nurses from the 3rd wolrd attending to patients. Hardly any white doctors and nurses anymore. It’s only a matter of time before care is diminished, if it hasn’t already. It’s going to end up like this in every industry and field – more affirmative action, more legislation of bending over backwards for the immigrant, more taxes to fund social programs for the immigrant, more funding of free education and healthcare for the immigrant, more PC speech to placate the immigrant, more jobs lost to the immigrant, more equality-based measure for the immigrant, etc…..nothing for Whites, mind you. We have to give everything we have to the “holy immigrant.”
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I’ve noticed this as well, but I think it really comes down to the general isolation of the wealthy enclaves where our legislators and their largest donors/social circles live. As a young person living in a major north-eastern city but that still visits his family frequently in the south, I can tell you, there are massive differences in lifestyles. In the city, I’m surrounded by fat, poor minorities – all the time. To an extent where I cannot comprehend how this country supports all of these mostly worthless human beings (metro rides are among the most depressing parts of my existence). But when I’m back home in my 1% suburb, nada, except the occasional Indian or Asian whose parents are doctors or scientists. My interaction is exclusively with whites, in churches, in restaurants, in schools, with friends, etc. To the point where one can forget that all those poor minorities even exist. Ditto my parents. I guess its telling I played soccer with the governors kids and a congressman’s son.
Of course, my parents are loyal republicans in that they they’re millionaires who don’t care one bit about the middle class should their taxes go up. They really can’t wrap their minds around anything outside their immediate existence.
I’ll probably be fucked in a couple of years.
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Dude, you are fucked already. You just don’t know it yet, but you will. As the great GBFM would say, “Why is my butthole allsores?? Lozzozozozlzzolzolzolz!!!!
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“Of course, my parents are loyal republicans in that they they’re millionaires who don’t care one bit about the middle class should their taxes go up. “
My parents are like your parents, except they do give a crap. Very much so. They see the trends and even talk about moving. But to where? There is nowhere to go really.
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I’m keeping “bi-part the American public’s buttcheeks” in the same happy place I keep GBFM’s “multiplayer asscocking.”
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“As Israel classifies its migrants”
And you would not believe how tough it was to get that much done. Little known factoid: the people that actually run the country get paid around 2-10k (depending on your source) a month for each of these sudanese motherfuckerx currently raping their way through half the cities in the country.
Link:
http://israelmatzav.blogspot.co.il/2012/05/obama-paying-for-african-illegals-to.html?m=1
Amusing link of the Israel version of SWPL getting a dose of their own medicine
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In case it wasnt clear, one of the hard right MKs brought about 30 or Sudanese “migrants” to a swimming pool at an upscale left wing neighborhood, you know, the guys who promote these fucking policies cause they dont have to live with the rest of us peasants.
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They have a serious problem in Israel with these fucking Sudanese. The Left there is talking about giving them amnesty, while the Right is trying every trick in the book to get them out of the country to no avail. Whoever brought them to the upscale neighborhood did the right thing. Let those leftists live with them. LOL! Of course, members of the left are some of the most racist around. They talk a good game, but they are full of shit when it’s skin off their back. This reminds me of a very upscale neighborhood in CT (I think it was Greenwich) with a private beach, whose residents are some of the most leftist in the country, yet when Mexicans started coming to use their beach they hired attorneys to keep them out. Of course, no beach is private and legally they can’t keep anyone form using their part of the beach, but nevertheless they did everything in their power to make sure the people they fight for can’t be anywhere near their neighborhood. This is an example of hypocrisy at its highest. So I am happy the stupid leftist in Israel are getting a taste of their own medicine. Every white western country is being stampeded by the 3rd world as a result of leftist policy. The 3rd world will end up overtaking the planet because of these stupid liberals.
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actually, we’ve built a fence and it’s working. the flow of illegals is dropping. http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/02/world/la-fg-israel-africa-immigration-20130103
forget what the dude blaming jews is saying. it’s the lefties that we need to be concerned about. it just so happens that many jews are lefties. i am not one of them. the great thing about living in israel is that safety comes before civil liberties (usually). don’t like being profiled? don’t come to israel.
one of the great things about being the jewish state, and striving to keep the jewish character is that we can use it as a means to an end, the end being a country for us, by us. are our tactics sometimes heavy handed? fuckin a right.
all the lefties that complain about our handling of the arabs only look at a snapshot freeze-frame view of right now. are the conditions they’re living in as good as ours? nope, but that’s not our fault. don’t fire a rocket at me and i don’t have to build a fence to keep you out/strafe the house from which you fired the rocket, thus killing everyone inside.
most importantly, i love game. it’s so key in this country. i haven’t had a chance to use it in the states yet, but i’m visiting my family in little rock and st, lou in a few weeks, and i can’t wait to sarge american girls. it’s going to be a fucking cake walk compared to israelis.
viva rollo, viva chateau, viva game. go blues.
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it isn’t the jews.
it isn’t the jews.
it isn’t the jews.
it’s NEVER the jews.
or else you’re INBRED.
weirdo.
psh.
savvy?
dassa good goy
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Lou Dobbs. Lets remember his sacrifice.
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http://thedailybell.com/3665/Clues-Left-in-Birth-Forgery-on-Purpose
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[…] Not that this will do any good, because the ruling class has Source: Chateau Heartiste […]
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Amnesty is coming, whether we like it or not.
If they don’t get it this time, they will get it next time.
Resistance is futile.
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If they get it this time, they will also get it next time too. And “next time” will become more and more frequent.
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Dear Mr. Chateau Hartiste Whatever –
[Heartiste: “Godhead” will do.]
I’ve been a loyal reader of your blog for some years now;
[mmhhmmm… the buttering up. And then…]
fantastic writing, really. In general your opinions are pretty on-target, especially when it comes to gender relations. I don’t much care for the trend that the American male has been taking. It’s a sad departure from our forefathers: Hemingway, Cary Grant, Roosevelt. We’re entering a new age where work boots, a hammer and chewing tobacco are foreign. Facebook? Yes. Coffee, a cigarette and a hard days’ work? Not so much.
I am a liberal. Always have been, and always will be. I read your more conservative musings with an interested eye. It’s very important to understand how the “other” side thinks.
[I understand liberals have that problem. Wasn’t there a study recently which proved that conservatives are more familiar with liberal thought and lifestyle than liberals are of conservative thought and lifestyle?]
I have many friends that are conservative,
[“Some of my best friends are convenient stand-ins.”]
and I don’t by any means consider them the enemy or someone that I detest.
[Maybe you should. It might help clarify your feelings.]
In fact, I consider them two wings of the same bird. Conservatism and Liberals are both necessary to move the country in the right direction. Like a gas pedal and a brake pedal, used in moderation and in concert, America will grow.
[Cancer grows, too.]
That’s why, every once in a while, I’m disappointed in your blog.
[My tears… they are real, you see?]
Today is one of those days.
[I didn’t have to use my AK.]
I realize that you have a position as a polemicist,
[I must’ve missed the memo.]
and that you’re trying to garner as many readers and as much publicity as you can.
[You’ve got cause and effect backwards. Publicity is a consequence of my desire to garner as much fun as I can.]
I don’t necessarily fault you for that.
[I feel all giggly inside, like a girl being qualified by a PUA!]
But you have a good readership, a lot of young men that probably read your blog and take it for gospel.
[I wonder if you show this concern for the gospel according to leftoids entrenched in every facet and layer of academia? No, I don’t wonder.]
You could use it to disseminate a lot more cogent and well thought out ideas than this entry.
[There is a time for genteel debate, and there is a time for raising the sword skyward.]
You’ve clearly read the same stuff I have.
[Garfield, volumes 1-5?]
Xenophobia
[aka prudent self-survival.]
appears during harsh economic times and recessions because people look for other people to blame.
[Another way to word that is that good economic times paper over simmering problems caused by excessive diversity within a nation. But thanku for trolling.]
True “conservativsm” looks fondly on immigrants as a font of new ideas and hard work.
[Violent inmates work hard in the gym. PS Some immigrants are worth more than others, the good feelings evoked by your equalist phisolophy to the contrary notwithstanding.]
Massachusetts and New York are built on the Irish and the Italians,
[Mass was built by Puritans and Anglo WASPs. NY was built by Anglos and Dutch. And the Irish and Italians are closer both genetically and culturally to WASPs than are Amerindians.]
and what was left went to the French Canadians. The Germans built the Midwest, and the Chinese the railroad.
[Physically building a railroad is not the same as inventing a railroad, organizing the construction of a railroad, or running a business that gets the job of building a railroad done.]
While I don’t usually agree with the group, the Libertarians have this one right.
[Only if you’re as spergalicious as they are.]
Open borders.
[Good fences make good neighbors.]
Come in, work hard, and obey the Constitution.
[And there will be pie in the sky by and by.]
Only with ideas from outside will the USA continue to be the best nation on earth.
[Ideas don’t require open borders to travel.]
E-Mail me if you want me to blue-pencil you work.
[I’ll pass.]
D
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Sentiment against high-skilled, patriotic, net-job-creating Eastern European, Indian, and East Asian immigrants can be fairly characterized as xenophobia.
Against Mexican immigrants, who… um, exactly how mind-boggling horribly do they perform compared to SIMILARLY POOR (at least at time of entry) EE/Indian/EA immigrants on predictors of, and actual, enduring achievement? Maybe 1000 typical Mexican immigrants can be expected to accomplish as much as 1-2 EEs/Indians/EAs?
Mexicans have a right to build a better life in Mexico, just like East Asians have a right to build better lives for themselves in East Asia (and you’re welcome to emigrate and help out either group, if you want; I’m actually doing this as we speak). And last time I checked, free association was a libertarian principle, without any hard limit on the size of associations, so there’s nothing un-libertarian about Americans picking and choosing which foreigners they want to admit to their association.
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There is nothing wrong with the behavior you have described as “xenophobia” (aka ethnocentrism). That behavior is embedded in our genetic code. It is a survival trait. That’s why it exists everywhere in the world and has existed at ALL POINTS IN HISTORY.
European-descended people are now in a planet-wide race war for survival as non-whites from every point on the globe seek to migrate to White countries. We have every moral right to establish territory that is for the exclusive use of people of wholly European ancestry and to eternally defend that territory against non-white entry by irrevocable law and military force.
Watch video footage of a professional conference as Dr. Frank Salter explains how the political elites of White countries have ushered large numbers of non-whites into those countries, with out any approval from, or voting on this issue allowed by, the host White populations. He explains how this has hurt those countries and how it threatens the White population with extinction.
Frank Salter – Humanitarian Costs of Western Multiculturalism
Read the third of a three part essay in Quadrant, an Australian intellectual journal dealing with historical, political, and literary issues. Salter explains the double racial standard displayed by the media.
The War Against Human Nature III: Race and the Nation in the Media
http://www.quadrant.org.au/magazine/issue/2012/10/the-war-against-human-nature-iii-race-and-the-nation-in-the-media
Read evolutionary psychology professor Kevin MacDonald’s assessment of Dr. Frank Salter’s essay in the October 2012 issue of Quadrant.
Frank Salter on Race and Nation in Australia
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2013/01/frank-salter-on-race-and-nation-in-australia/
Read California State University Psychology professor Dr. Kevin MacDonald’s essay on the normalcy of White ethnocentrism and ethnocentrism generally at the link below.
Psychology and White Ethnocentrism
http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/WhiteEthnocentrism.pdf
Ethnocentrism is normal and rational
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2012/11/ethnocentrism-is-normal-and-rational/
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D, how can you read a blog that harps on gender differences and how feminism has given men the shaft and be a liberal? That goes against everything modern liberalism stands for. Perhaps the huffington post, salon, or even Jezebel is more your cup of tea?
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Because he is lying.
He’s merely trying to pretend to be a fan, in order to worm his way behind Heartiste and convince him to open his heart to the third world.
It’s an old rhetorical device: “you’re right about everything but this.”
Supposed to makes the other person feel comfortable, like you’re equals, and somehow the other person has missed one crucial thing. KGB spies used the technique brilliantly, both in sabotaging anti-left movements (“Hey, Birchers, we’re right about everything, except Eisenhower is clearly a commie too!”) and pushing left wing movements further (“Hey, you know what we should do?Bomb the capital!”)
If a person uses such a device, don’t trust them. Lefties try to do this a lot (“Hey, I was raised Republican/evangelical/ I’m a real man, but hey, shouldn’t we bow down and fellate niggers and let women rule the world, like Sweetheart Jason wants?”)
D is a faggot and a liar. Probably has a dildo stuck up his ass right now, begging for more.
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Whorefinder keeps mentioning this imaginary person named “Jason” who’s both an interracial gay fetishist and child of the feminist movement. It sounds like whorefinder may be in love with this very bizarre character.
I’m glad it’s not me.
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lol.
Sweetheart, that’s perhaps the worst attempt at deflection I’ve seen in a year by a sackless nigger-worshiping lefty.
Now, repeat after me: Michael Clarke Duncan deserved to die. and Fat does not make you fat.
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dumb
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” I have many friends that are conservative, and I don’t by any means consider them the enemy or someone that I detest. In fact, I consider them two wings of the same bird. Conservatism and Liberals are both necessary to move the country in the right direction. Like a gas pedal and a brake pedal, used in moderation and in concert, America will grow.”
Let me rephrase this :
The liberal pedal is used when you want to screw people up, and the conservative pedal is used when they can’t take it anymore.
You’re right when you say that they are two wings of the same fucking bird. The conservative party has nothing conservative at all, it’s all just the same. And this joke goes on in EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY in the western world. They use this fake opposition to promote “democracy”.
There is absolutely no glory in being a liberal in our modern world, because this world IS liberal. You’re basically sitting in the throne room, pretending to be THOUGH? Give me a fucking break.
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Why the hell do you put Eastern European together with Mexicans and Indians?
Eastern Europeans are culturally and genetically undistinguishable from any other Europeans.
[Heartiste EEs are distinct from northwest euros, but seem less so when both are contrasted to mesoamericans. Genetic distance matters.]
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The culture of corruption, nepotism, nouveau riche, gang culture, etc. would suggest that Russia and Mexico share a surprising amount in common.
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I lumped Eastern European together with Indian and East Asian because descendants of POOR immigrants from all three areas out-achieve similarly poor Mexican immigrants at a rate of something like 500-to-1 in the ways that matter. Who keeps Moore’s Law going? Who does half the semi-boring but necessary grunt work in America’s cutting-edge labs? Immigrants… but PRACTICALLY NEVER Mexican ones. Even African immigrants perform respectably these days, because America gets some of the best–so this is about individual merit, not race or poverty.
There’s room for debate about whether the permitted level of legal immigration should go up or down (the ethics of brain-draining other countries is a factor here, as well as factors like patriotism…), but there’s no question that Mexican immigration should be slashed by >99%, and even if this cost $100 billion/year to enforce this would be a better investment than most of the rest of the US defense budget.
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I think ALL immigration should be slashed by 99%. None of these countries you mention have our best interest at heart. The quality of today’s immigrant is not the same as it used to be. In addition, we don’t really need more people here taking jobs and opportunity from citizens. We don’t need them from South America, especially Mesoamerica, and we don’t need them from the Muslim countries, or India or China, or Africa. We have too many people here from too many different backgrounds, while the peace is held by a very delicate balance. It’s hard to police all of these different types of ethnic groups, which is the reason we have so many laws to protect the peace, as well as PC speech, which is why we feel our freedoms get pinched and pinched ever so thin. There will be a point where fighting amongst all of these ethnic groups will reach a boiling point which will destroy the country, just like it did the ancient Roman empire.
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While I can’t advocate that with a clear conscience (due to Kant’s Categorical Imperative), and I think it is less politically viable than other similarly effective plans, it would be a very large improvement over the status quo if you were able to implement it.
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As far as i remember, raising a flag is a classical declaration of conquest.
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What do you think the effect is if you drain all the smart, intelligent or hard working people from another country?
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Notice anything similar about all those immigrants you just listed, save the Chinese?
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The Irish built much more railroad track in the USA than the Chinese ever did. I should know, since one of my ancestors was one of those Irish.
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Yup. Chinese contributions get overstated. It’s mostly because they died the most.
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Get that, Heartiste, you express these ideas because you have to attract readers, not because you really believe them. Anybody not on the left is either evil or stupid — or dissembling.
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D:
I could go on for a long time on your dangerously naive, treasonous views. I’ll try to be succinct.
We’re entering a new age where work boots, a hammer and chewing tobacco are foreign. Facebook? Yes. Coffee, a cigarette and a hard days’ work? Not so much
You don’t see how all this is related? The Left abandoned the working class four decades ago. They are too white, too religious, too armed and too American. Look up the 1970 Hard Hat Riot in NYC; after that is when the Left’s metaphorical knives came out (as, obviously, they wouldn’t last two seconds in an actual fight).
First, they flooded the previously male spheres with women, putting prospective spouses in head-to-head economic competition with each other. Then they exported all the factories. Then, for the jobs they couldn’t offshore, they brought in immigrants and put the US working class in competition with the global poor for employment and the global rich for housing. The results on the white working class have been devastating; Vladimir Ilyich Lenin himself could not be more proud. Look up Charles Murray..
True “conservativsm” looks fondly on immigrants as a font of new ideas and hard work. Massachusetts and New York are built on the Irish and the Italians, and what was left went to the French Canadians. The Germans built the Midwest, and the Chinese the railroad.
I hear this crap a lot: “Hispanics are the new Irish-Italians-Germans-Slavs!”
You notice a group missing from your cute little list? One that’s been here 400 years? Still has an entirely separate culture? Still doesn’t out-marry? Still requires gazillions of dollars to get them approaching anything resembling Anglo-American living standards? How come you aren’t calling Negroes “the new Irish-Italians-Germans-Slavs?” Racist.
The Spaniards have had the Aztecs just as long as we’ve had blacks and still only resort to alternating corrupt patronage and police brutality. Won’t be any different here.
While I don’t usually agree with the group, the Libertarians have this one right. Open borders. Come in, work hard, and obey the Constitution. Only with ideas from outside will the USA continue to be the best nation on earth.
Does it occur to you there’s a reason Ron Paul meet-ups are whiter than Augusta National? Nobody, nobody outside the Anglo-Celts and a few outlying French, Jewish and other writers have ever embraced libertarian principles of common law, lex rex and Lockean dialectic. They invented them, they seized those rights from kings, they bequeathed them to their descendants as the ‘rights of Englishmen.’ No other race on earth thinks in these terms, and that’s the only reason we ever got this wonderfully insane, stinking-rich, ass-kicking nation with oceans on both sides smack in the temperate zone and the best land on the planet.
Am I making myself clear, D?
You, sir/madam, are the enemy. You’re even more my enemy than the mestizo paramilitaries and rampaging urban gangs that will be a part (thanks to people like you) of my child’s future. At least they’re not like you, deracinated, emasculated shells of former people, apologizing for your very existence. Hell, we might even be able to harness that Aztec and African militancy and build something with it.
But you are beyond salvaging.
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Obey the Constitution? So you want immigrants to obey the Constitution? What does the Constitution defend? A country? America? Okay, so you should clearly acknowledge that you want immigrants to obey the constitution of the United States, but you don’t seem to understand that borders are what allow us to distinguish a territory worthy of having a constitution to defend itself with.
D, you take in a few illegals into your own house. House and feed them. And if they get sick, drive them to the hospital and pay for their care. And take the locks off your home and car since those are unnecessary border hinderances to entrance. Then, you can have solid ground to take the moral high ground.
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I like how “D” throws out “obey the Constitution” while conveniently ignoring the fact that illegal immigrants are here because they violated the same laws enacted pursuant to the legislative powers in the first Article of the Constitution.
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Does “the Constitution” include the “Second Amendment”? The Kenyan in the White House doesn’t appear to think so.
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Conservatism and Liberals are both necessary to move the country in the right direction.
That’s like a flea saying “the world needs both fleas and dogs”. Somehow, I’ll bet the dogs see it differently.
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Typical liberal censorship: You shouldn’t write something controversial lest it induce people to think about it and take your point of view. People are entitled to their own point of view, even (especially) if it’s counter to reality and facts! Don’t offend! Trigger warning! Trigger warning!
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This is one of the dumbest paragraphs ever published on this blog, by man or woman.
The leftists who don’t even pretend to know what they’re talking about are much more tolerable than this lot. At least the former know they’re perpetrating a straight-up power grab and aren’t happily allowing themselves to be duped by shitty philosophaster meanderings that couldn’t get into a fortune cookie. The brute is orders of magnitude more respectable than the ponce who thinks he knows something and, for evidence, delivers that steaming pile of upchuck.
He’s obviously not reading this site too carefully. Political philosophy is one of the highest expressions of manhood. And don’t imagine that women can’t detect the faggotry like gaydar in the spineless worthless political “bottom” whose insides are full of feminine mush.
In fact, his very analogy is gay, indicative of his need for a “top.” We are all just yin and yang, man and woman, conservative and liberal, procreating (or “grow[ing]” America) in cooperation with our opposite. Make no mistake, D-boi got some serious chub from that editorial rape-fisking, presented in manly bold.
Matt
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ha, heartiste – love the ice cube good day AK reference
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[I understand liberals have that problem. Wasn’t there a study recently which proved that conservatives are more familiar with liberal thought and lifestyle than liberals are of conservative thought and lifestyle?]
The reason for that, is if you look at voting patterns in the last election, using Obama voters and Romney voters as a proxy for “liberals” and “conservatives” respectively, and define “blue states” as those where the Dem candidate for prez won at least 3 out of 5 last elections, that 33% of liberals live in red states, while 54% of conservatives live in blue states.
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and the Chinese the railroad.
[Physically building a railroad is not the same as inventing a railroad, organizing the construction of a railroad, or running a business that gets the job of building a railroad done.]
HARRR HARRR HARRR HARRR HARRRHARRRHARRR!!!!
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In fairness, Chinese don’t seem to have any problem organizing railroad construction and running the associated businesses these days, and while the jury will be out for a while re: “inventing a railroad”, they’re clearly capable of refining inventions once they get the basic idea from elsewhere. (Disclaimer: Yes, I’m Chinese. But that doesn’t invalidate my points.)
The major problem is with mass unskilled immigration, and interestingly the Mexicans have performed SO BADLY that it can’t possibly all be genetic: I’m pretty sure the cream of the Mexican immigrant crop would be more than competitive with other immigrant groups once they’re no longer weighed down by the incredibly mediocre culture of the rest of their cohort.
Once it’s accepted that Mexican immigration should be cut by >99% (at least in the short term), rational discussion can be had about other tweaks to immigration policy.
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Voltaire began his history with the Chinese.
I don’t see how anybody could possibly discount Chinese contribution to the historical world (dynamite, noodles, paper, etc) and the modern world (stem cell labs, all manufacturing).
[Heartiste: Just In Time manufacturing was invented by a white American. The Chinese, like a lot of Asian countries, are very good at co-opting (aka stealing) good ideas invented by whites and mastering their application.]
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China never industrialized until the Communists took over. You need to read more history. You spout a lot of Marxist wishful thinking and half truths. Demming invented JIT manufacturing and Toyota was the first to pioneer it.
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Whatever the Chinese invented in the past, and they may have invented a lot of useful things in the middle ages compared with Europe’s mental stopper at the time, it’s important to note that today they invent nothing, and they even make a point to tell us they invent nothing. They admit they copy designs and patents from the West. In fact, it has become so pitiful to the point where it is almost futile to hold a patent on anything because the Chinese will copy it within days of its submittal for review by the USA Patents and Trademark Office.
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China has been the most advanced nation/empire in the world for most of history. They invented good government early and kept at it.
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This good government in China has periodically resulted in the deaths of millions of people, most recently during the rule of Mao when 40-60 million were murdered or starved to death.
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CH- I love reading your fiskings. Seriously.
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Is there a word to describe being amused and wanting to vomit at the same time?
Because that is what I felt reading D’s comment
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LOL at all you wanna be badasses talking about taking on the government with your ARs and civilian arms. Their weapons are infinitely more deadly than anything you can get. They don’t even need to send soldiers into your house, they can just send a drone they control by computer and blow your ass to a million pieces if you don’t comply with what they say. Your “revolution” and “secession” will be laughed at while they destroy you.
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Only problem with your thesis, sir, is that they’ll have to repeat that little operation at least ten million times.
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What are you going to do against their tanks? How will you defeat the state of the art military grade gear of their soldiers? What about the satellites they have that track your every move? They have access to your bank card info too so no use trying to run. There are security cameras on you every time you walk into a store. If they want you, they’ll get you. Resistance will just hasten your demise…
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Where do you think soldiers’ loyalties lie? Rulers generally have to go through a lot of trouble to deploy special units with no natural rapport with natives in order to suppress domestic rebellions. That is the only part of the military that must be defeated when the rulers are opposing the will of a supermajority of the people.
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Centralised resistance, without the support of the army, would fail. Decentralised resistance on the other hand…
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Secession is a legal right.
Soldiers used against civilians… isn’t that the excused used against the Syrian government?
Who sit in the tank? A human, at least, for a few years more.
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look at egypt. during the revolution, the soldiers stood by why the citizens rioted. why? because they are the same people, some wearing uniforms, some not. no way american soldiers would ever turn on their own brothers.
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Fill those tanks with women, queers and immigrants and we might be fucked.
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“Fill those tanks with women, queers and immigrants and we might be fucked.”
They are already being filled with such specimen. That’s why we haven’t won a war in 50 years, and why every backward-ass cave dweller feels he can take us on with impunity and then some. Get it? We’re getting closer and closer to the event horizon from which there is no return.
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The USA, bad ass mofos wid dronesnshiiit just spent the last 12 years getting NVA’d and Vietconged all over a territory about the size of Colorado by a bunch of celler dwellers armed primarily with “assault rifles”. The only wars America wins anymore are the ones where the opposition can be bought off with C130s full of cash and prizes. If the opposition can’t be bought, as in the Taliban’s case, “we” can’t win.
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Do you not remember the revolution in Romania? The government troops were ordered to fire on the crowd of protestors in the central square of Bucharest. They did so, and killed about 3-4 thousand. The next day more protestors appeared and the troops killed another 3-4 thousand. The next day, more protestors appeared and the troops refused to fire and turned on the government.
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In those protests there was an element of diversity, with at least in some cases the protesters being ethnic Germans.
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It takes them a while, but once you get Blockheads riled up, watch out!
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Another halfwit who cites tanks. WHAT ABOUT TANKS!!!
It’s not an arms race between David Koresh and the ATF, fool. It is the dispersal of lethal power among citizens to vouchsafe their sovereignty. If citizens bear arms, then a perimeter wire is tripped whenever tyranny is advancing: before a state can contemplate forcing the collective citizenry to abjure their unalienable right to life, it must begin a process of disarmament. When that disarmament is proposed, the gun-grabbers’ designs are exposed early enough in the process to counteract it without violence. If it did come to violence, there would be enough of an alert to muster our own equal response (yes, even tanks!) just as the Continental Army did in 1775 against the greatest military power in the world at that time. This is one of the reasons in Switzerland it is law that every grown man possess a firearm.
Further, which culture do you think populates our armed forces who know how to drive that heavy armor? The sissy SWPL who dream of thweaty menssth in tankssth, blasting away against peashooters for their right to prime-time sodomy? Or strapping southern hicks who are of half-a-mind to finish the War of Northern Aggression properly?
Yours is the frightened-woman’s understanding of “a well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state… .”
Anyway, even Harry Reid saw the writing on the wall yesterday. This is all Sturm und Drang, signifying nothing, with the added benefit of waking up the right people from their slumber and convincing them that there can be no compromise with SWPL.
Matt
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It’s not a law in Switzerland. Everyone who completed military service may take the rifle home, the purpose of this is to be able to quickly organize a defense in case of invasion – the invading force can’t cut the soldiers off from their guns. Up until 2007 you also got a box of ammo, this box was sealed and only to be used in case the troops were mobilized (Taschenmunition). This is no longer the case, most reserve and active soldiers had to return their ammo.
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Excellent, thanks for the clarification.
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mmm…thweaty mensth in tanksthss… d’s labia is bulging.
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If there is any rebellion against cocky liberal overreach, a large chunk of the US Armed Forces will be in on it too.
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… and an even larger chunk of ex-soldiers, I might add, like Tyrone below. What, Moonbeam, do you think troops give up all knowledge of their training and all their guns when they go back to civilian life?
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Stick a crowbar in their running gears for starters. You obviously have never served and don’t know what you’re talking about. Separate a tank from it’s infantry cover and it is a coffin on wheels.
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Nevermind the resources needed to keep those tanks a-moving. Fuel, maintenance, warm bodies. Lose any one of the three and it’s just a fancy sweatbox.
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Why do you assume that the same people you hold in disdain today will protect you tomorrow?
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Excellent point.
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probably a reason that almost all the combat arms are white men
the only prob is i believe they would kill civilians no prob as long as you labeled them correctly
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gunslingergregi’s “labeling” point is important. One large-scale rebellion that did NOT succeed is the American Confederacy, and it is crucial for today’s rebels to avoid its mistakes.
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gunslingergregi’s “labeling” point is important. One large-scale rebellion that did NOT succeed is the American Confederacy, and it is crucial for today’s rebels to avoid its mistakes.
As with arm-wrestling, in a war of attrition, the side with more man-power wins.
Not enough states seceded last time. Next time, the same mistake won’t be made. We just have to wait until Obama and the other libtards piss off conservatives badly enough.
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not even gonna get to how ya won’t be able to be a hero in the future or be able to do shit or be needed to do shit in the future of war kind of why i try to stay off computer its sad shit
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talkin bout ass and how to make a woman do what the fuck you want helps alleviate the shit though
having some love helps too
and someone you can cry in the arms of who can feel your pain helps too yea i cried in front the chick i am with now so she got to see my bitch side too and has dealt with it.
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Gunslinger’s in luuuuuuv!
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yea its been a wild ride
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Good on ya mate! I love my wife too and it’s been a good deal for me. I was in denial for quite a while though.
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well i am not currently with my wife hanging with a girlfriend at moment american chic who wants to be my second wife my first one from indo allready earned her wife status i just still can’t be there at the moment but she continues to build up some businesses where she is at and got my houses under control been in love with her and through a lot of stuff this new chick asked me to marry her told her i never will in the us but she can earn permenant status but she will have to jump through a lot more hoops first to be my second wife type (she has known about my first wife since beginning) like she got to start making me loot which i went and got her some nail stuff so she can do acrylics like she used to i guess and she also got to get my almond machine running for me plus some other criteria and time but yea i love the new chick don’t make her marriage material she trying though he he he
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And why, oh why you moron, are you assuming that the government will be the only entity that will have military robots? It hasn’t happenened with guns and it will not happen with any new technology. What is more, the moment I can make a biological weapon (targeting people with specific genes) in my basement (and the moment is soon comming) the traitorous government and its non-white servents are doomed.
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Libtards don’t get that, while it’s the evil white male who is the government’s target, it’s also the evil white male who has far more ingenuity, cunning, and forethought than any other demographic.
CH had a link on here a while back (maybe on his twitter) about a group of greenies who tried to spy on some duck hunters with a drone, and the duck hunters simply shot at it as if it was a clay pigeon. No problem.
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I will quote Leonard S. Glickman, president and CEO of the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society:
“The more diverse American society is the safer [Jews] are.”
Many Jews advocate open borders immigration in the US and explusion of non-Jews from Israel. Israel builds walls to keep out African immigrants and administers Depo-provera (an injected contraceptive) to Ethiopian Jews without their knowledge
See “Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent ” http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-gave-birth-control-to-ethiopian-jews-without-their-consent-8468800.html
The Israeli Health Ministry’s director-general has admitted this so it is not some crackpot theory.
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You cannot logically demand immigrants be forcibly kicked out of the country while simultaneously decrying the country being taken over by a communazi tyranny bent on herding you like cattle.
[Heartiste: The perfect is the enemy of the good.]
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You mean to say “demand illegal immigrants be forcibly kicked out.”
It’s called enforcing law, cheeseball. Law enforcement doesn’t destroy freedom, it protects freedom. Or do you find it tyrannical to be pulled over for going 80 mph in a 65? That is the attitude of someone who has no earthly idea of the origins and protections of liberty.
No, someone who calls enforcing a long-neglected law the equivalent of “herding [free men] like cattle” gives away his position of totalitarian presumption. You think the rule of law is worth only the paper it is printed on, and you assume the only possibility is rule of men over men.
Guess what? I am not ruled by men. Period. I am ruled by the laws in which I have ultimate say, enforced by my fellow citizens who are limited by me through checks on the power to execute those laws. If a free republic decides through proper deliberation to herd criminals, spies, scofflaws, saboteurs, or aliens “like cattle,” they do it under the auspices of the sovereign, of which I am a part. Illegals do not share in my sovereignty, and it is the sacred right of a republic to deal with interlopers and trespassers by any means they deem fit. Only a cowering wimp would misunderstand the difference between that and a totalitarian pogrom, because they’re both just so violent, ewww.
So quit being a spoiled little bitch living within the protections of better men and understand that, “We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm.”
Matt
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Don’t need to forcibly kick out illegal immigrants. Remove the incentives for illegal immigrants to remain (jobs, public education, healthcare, welfare benefits, insane policy of birthright citizenship) and the illegal immigrant population will decline precipitously by attrition. Problem solved. You’re welcome.
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I’m an Israeli. BTW, an interesting Israeli law (was in effect before harsher policies were in place) is that all infiltrators are given a bus ticket to Tel Aviv and were only allowed to be near Tel Aviv. I’m not sure who made this law, but it had a good effect since Tel Aviv is the center of Israeli left SWPL. It like forcing all the American ‘undocumented immigrants’ to live in New York. Give the SWPL what they ask for. Harsher immigration policies will follow soon.
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That’s an interesting idea. Leftoids are amazingly prejudiced when it comes to their own backyards, despite not caring if the country as a whole gets overrun.
Minnesota used to be the most leftist state in the country, until refugee agencies based there brought in a bunch of Hmong, Somalis, and others from the bottom of the world’s barrel. It’s still a blue state, but it has jerked about twenty points rightward, and is now known more for Michele Bachmann and Tim Pawlenty than Walter Mondale or HHH.
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Is the Obama administration really supporting the Sudanese infiltrators?
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so that’s why the tachanat merkazit looks the way it does! now it all comes together.
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Reblogged this on Mindweapons in Ragnarok and commented:
Heartiste’s take on Stop Amnesty Now. By the way, I have my three congress critters in my cell phone contacts and contacted them yesterday.
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The problem (and implicit theme of this blog) is that most people are not only dumb but incapable of thinking for themselves.
It’s an evolutionary shortcut.
If their cultural betters in liberal Washington are hellbent on opening the spigot on massive Turd World immigration then they will automatically go along like good Scientologists.
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I am glad you wrote on this. This is really just a sign of the invisible economic apocalypse that is occurring and no one wants to talk about.
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The Stranger within my gate,
He may be true or kind,
But he does not talk my talk—
I cannot feel his mind.
I see the face and the eyes and the mouth,
But not the soul behind.
The men of my own stock,
They may do ill or well,
But they tell the lies I am wonted to,
They are used to the lies I tell;
And we do not need interpreters
When we go to buy or sell.
The Stranger within my gates,
He may be evil or good,
But I cannot tell what powers control—
What reasons sway his mood;
Nor when the Gods of his far-off land
Shall repossess his blood.
The men of my own stock,
Bitter bad they may be,
But, at least, they hear the things I hear,
And see the things I see;
And whatever I think of them and their likes
They think of the likes of me.
This was my father’s belief
And this is also mine:
Let the corn be all one sheaf—
And the grapes be all one vine,
Ere our children’s teeth are set on edge
By bitter bread and wine.
– Rudyard Kipling
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We’ve got one permanent underclass (blacks) and now we want to grow another one? The hispanic invaders will likely take more jobs away from blacks than they currently do already. Anybody look at the black unemployment rate lately? Fortunately for the liberals, the blacks are so chained to the state and the gibsmedat that they won’t realize that all those years of voting for democrats will ultimately help to hasten their disposition (future time orientation is not a strong suit of the Bellcurvius Africanus). It’s already happening in parts of LA. As long as you’re not in the crossfire, it’s going to be fun to watch these two democrat client constituencies fight it out over the next few years. Just keep the powder dry in case it spills over into your neighborhood.
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Here’s a great idea: Report non-white illegal aliens, get a tax credit for each one you turn in!
I’m talking about turning in non-white illegals only, not White people who are here Illegally. Actually, there’s no such thing as a White person being in America illegally.
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Off topic, but…
I thought you were talking about the organization Amnesty. Which unfortunately let itself be rotted through by the feminist definition of rape, despite being an ok organization before. It wants to define rape as sex without SINCERE consent. No force necessary. They also made a ridiculous video where some chick goes upstairs with a guy at a party, lays next to him on the bed, then he starts to have sex with her and she says no a couple of times, doesn’t bother to resist, and starts weeping silently while he doesn’t even see her face. They want that to be defined as rape. I don’t recommend giving them money.
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Meanwhile, on Planet Emma…
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If men had always stopped their advances upon hearing “no” from a woman, there would be no one to complain about rape, as there would be no humans to begin with.
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My dad and sister, who are both blue-pillers, badmouthed a local frat that was notorious for drunken sex, suggesting they should get put up for rape, and couldn’t understand why the girls refused to press rape charges.
I had to point out that the girls were fully aware that they should expect getting laid by going to a party at that frat — I mean, come on, a frat! — and it was also their responsibility that the drunken sex happened. Duuhhhh….
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So most of your family is liberal? You poor thing, how do you manage? You have to spoon feed everything slowly to undue their liberal thinking. Who has patience for this?
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Tradcons, actually. But either way…
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Not so bad then.
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There’s no stopping it. We’re leaderless and confused, they’re not. If we started now it would take at least a couple years to have any serious political power. The left has been playing the long con for the better part of a century while we’ve been fapping to GDP figures. The cause is lost.
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It would actually take a least 4 years to have any serious political power because Obama is still President of the USA for 4 more years. Thus, even if Republicans somehow magically take back the Senate & keep their majority in the House, Obama can veto anything they pass. The reality is amnesty is probably coming whether we like it or not. Sorry.
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We stopped it in 2007, with the House and Senate both controlled by Dems, and we can do it again.
The only reason it has traction at the moment is that Congress has only been hearing from the corrupt newsmedia which, as we all know, is ardently pro-shamnesty.
Also, unlike in 2007, the GOP controls the House, and they do listen to their anti-amnesty constituents… provided we call them.
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We’re also bobbing back and forth, like watching a tennis game between gun control and amnesty. I always thought 2A would be the hill to die on, I think they know it, too, which is why the sudden, overwhelming interest in amnesty. Divided we fall…
Watch my left hand while I control you with my right.
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We’re also bobbing back and forth, like watching a tennis game between gun control and amnesty.
That just means I’ll do twofers when calling the Capitol Hill switchboard: no gun control OR amnesty.
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“The cause is lost.”
Yes and no. What is in fact lost is any real possibility of “conventional” political victory. Effortless and painless, going to the ballot box and setting the world to rights, then heading back home and scarfing down carbs and assorted processed slop while watching pure idiocy on the Talmudvision. That was always more of a fantasy than anything else, and by now it should be obvious that it’s simply not going to happen. The game has long been rigged, and the fix long since in.
But hey, let’s give the enemy their due: using the media and academia they managed to smear and destroy any person who remotely spoke out to defend the founding stock, therefore allowing the importation of a new electorate (despite popular opposition to this spanning decades). Now the deed is done, or at least done enough. After amnesty the scales will be even more disastrous. The Republicans, in which far too many good people placed far too much trust, were in on it too. Basically, our enemies cheated democracy fair and square, while our side followed Republican scum who were simply taking us down the garden path. But hey, the Republican leadership lived well, made good money, and got invited to the right cocktail parties, while the nation they were supposed to “conserve” transformed from Leave it to Beaver to the Star Wars cantina scene. Disastrous for us and the nation, but the Republican leadership has done quite well for itself. Wonderful people, just wonderful.
So I ask, in humble sincerity, why should people feel bound to respect and honor the results of a fraudulent, rigged system? We’ve spent our lives mistaking a Punch and Judy show for real politics.
In any event, none of this means that the cause itself is lost, because the cause is far more fundamental and vital than any particular political process, and certainly any political party. That most vital of causes, the survival of our people (and yes, by “people” I do in fact mean whites), is far from lost. We haven’t begun to fight, and there are paths to victory beyond playing a game rigged against us. But we’ve got to stop thinking in terms of taking the entire country back. Maybe a part, maybe even parts, but not all. It is indeed too late for that.
When a particular game is fixed and rigged, you stop playing the game and flip over the table instead. In the past, I was thinking the rubber might hit the road several decades down the line, but now I’m thinking the next ten or so years will be quite interesting. Stay tuned!
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I have to wonder how much political will there truly is to back up anything but amnesty. Rubio claims to want to require a bunch of conditions on claiming residency and then being allowed to apply for a green card and spend the usual amount of time to become a citizen. I would support a guest worker program because you can charge them social taxes but not provide them the benefits. It could help the shortfall in Social Security for example. Most illegals just want to make some money for a few years and return to Mexico. It would also serve as a screening process for future immigrants. I liked Bush’s plan a few years back that included this. It also allowed businesses to bring people over easier. I would have brought a ton of Ukrainian women over as Head Honcho operaters under that law.
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“Most illegals just want to make some money for a few years and return to Mexico. It would also serve as a screening process for future immigrants.”
Don’t be a dupe. No one would ever move back once they are here, the land of plenty and opportunity. Thinking like this is madness. In addition, we really don’t need more immigrants. We need to assimilate the ones already here. Pat Buchanan and Tom Tancredo have it right on immigration.
“I liked Bush’s plan a few years back that included this. It also allowed businesses to bring people over easier. I would have brought a ton of Ukrainian women over as Head Honcho operaters under that law.”
While I like Bush very much, his immigration policy wasn’t one of the reasons. I’m tired of both the republicans and the democrats thinking of immigration like it’s part of the moral fiber and character of this country. It’s not. Indeed, there was a time we needed immigrants and the quality of immigrants was much, much higher then. They came here because they wanted to make a new life in America, participate and become part of this place that is unlike anywhere else on earth. They believed in what America stood for, and they rejected the old European political and class systems. You can say they had almost no secondary motives to come here, except love of what this country stood for. In contrast, today’s immigrant is coming to milk this country for all it has to offer – from jobs, to free healthcare and education, to housing and everything else the liberals give him free at the detriment of the citizen who’s been here for generations and has fought for this country. This type of immigrant isn’t flying the American flag on his car. He flies the Mexican flag on his car since he is taught by his leaders that Mexico owns half of the US and it should get it back one day. No, we don’t need people like this immigrant here. We don’t need him or his evil street gangs, and we don’t need him to work here and send his money back to Mexico while he plots in his heart for revolution as he gains more power and runs for local and state office and tries to change the moral fiber of this country. Letting these type of immigrants here is tantamount to committing suicide. Wake up!
Regarding the Ukrainian women, other than they are subservient and at least white, what has you so enamored?
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Regarding the Ukrainian women, other than they are subservient and at least white, what has you so enamored?
Ha, I find they are exactly like white American women, except that they are hardly ever fat, and don’t get as much male attention because the USA is a sausagefest. They are just as likely as white American women to mouth liberal platitudes and love Obama. Because they tend to dislike Russia, whatever Russia thinks is bad, they think is good (such as faggotry). Sure, there are conservative ones… but there are also conservative white American women too.
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Common sense!
Therefore, don’t let anyone through our borders. Close everything for at least 20 years and then will revisit the issue. And God help us if we still have an appetite for the Mesoamerican by then. The only type of people we should let in, now and later, are people that can make America even greater – scientists, artists, magnates, etc…. even though they also tend to be liberal, but at least people like them have side-benefits that can outweigh their liberalism. We should be acting in our best self-interest, not in the self-interest of the immigrant.
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Women will mouth liberal platitudes and love Obama by default. its up tot he man to guide her. Its the married women who grow up and who vote Republican. Sorry, we need more beautiful women in America. We are at about a 30% deficit compared to Europe. We should be letting in anyone who is white and has their shit reasonably together.
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So did you have political influence on your wife? Did she became more conservative after you married her? In any case, it’s true that married woman tend to vote conservative. Too much negative talk about marriage here, at least this is one good side-benefit to marriage, lol.
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My wife worked for a German political foundation in Kiev closely affiliated with the SPD, so her politics were influenced by that environment. Most women don’t really have strong political beliefs once you scratch the surface unless there is something in it for them. Single women in the US have been swayed with ridiculously simplistic propaganda. Check out some of the articles prior to the election in US women’s magazines. What rot! She would read them to me and get pissed off. Now she is more conservative than I am. It helped she was raised a Christian and came from a large family though.
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“Now she is more conservative than I am.”
Those make the best wives – more conservative than their husbands.
Women really need to be very conservative not to stray into feminist territory. They need to be fiercely conservative if they are to become committed to hubby and children. Otherwise, the feminists have many ways of seducing them.
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I’m not sure that Steve Sailer’s “marriage gap” doesn’t actually result simply from conservative women doing their biological duty and getting married much earlier, leaving the singles largely Democrat by default. It would also help explain why in the USA, conservative white women have 2.1-2.2 children per woman, and liberal white women about 1.4-1.5.
Problem is, conservative women are usually fundie Protestants or Mormons nowadays, and Catholic women are usually either liberal and/or super slutty. I suppose I could try pulling a conservative girl, then have to deal with her daddy not liking my being a Catholic, or pressuring me to convert. Better keep working on my game, heh.
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Beauty, good disposition, head three times a day, a spotless house and tasty home cooked meals.
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Oh, Tyrone, so you’re married to one? Good for you, if true. Maybe yours is more old-fashioned. Old-fashioned women are hard to come by, so if you got one, you’re lucky.
While I believe most Eastern Europeans are still more traditional in comparison to Western Europeans, Americas or Canadians, I think Corvinus might be right and they do tend to vote democrat too. Oddly enough, the only conservative ones from that part of the world I have encountered are Jews who were oppressed by Communism and the Soviet Union. Most of them really hate Obama and they say he reminds them of Stalin. I don’t know; I think with Eastern Europeans it can go either way, like 50-50, which is still higher than the conservative demographics in the West. You got to meet more of them to decide though. One or two people isn’t enough to form an opinion.
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Yes I married one. But when I met her she also had a SITC mentality that was common for young women her age. All women need to be trained, but some are better students than others. They are all women too, but in general, they have good attitudes and are prettier. They also appreciate a good husband and provider and make a commensurate effort in return. That said, I have good relationship game and have taught many women to give me head on request.
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Regarding guest permits- you want them to stay and keep paying for social services they aren’t eligible to receive. That could potentially even save it and it would eliminate the advantage off book workers have over natives in terms of not having to pay into the social system. As guest workers, they couldn’t vote either and you would know who they were and where they were.
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The only problem with guest workers is that they’re never “guests”, they always end up being permanent. Just like Germany and its Turks.
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How can they be maneuvering to raise the debt ceiling and pushing an amnesty? I don’t think we can afford to relax immigration policy.
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Blacks are the ones who should really be scared about the explosion of Mexicans in this country. Unlike white people, Mexicans pay zero heed towards political correctness and the other pathologies that infect the SWPL class. They do full black face on Mexican TV and don’t bat an eyelash at racist stereotypes.
Mexicans hate black people. Take a look at California where Mexicans have driven away blacks from their neighborhoods in droves.
They are also likely to take many low-skill jobs that were previously held by blacks.
Mexicans don’t put up with blacks. Simple as that.
Things are going to get a lot worse before they get better. But goddamn, it is going to be a hell of a show.
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Well… I consider supporting amnesty to stick it to blacks to be a case of “cutting off your nose to spite your face”, but I do understand your point.
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I’m with you on that. Just pointing out an interesting side effect of this whole shit-storm.
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No, don’t believe they will be adversaries when they have a common enemy, the White Race. They will unite forces if need be in order to destroy us. We need to get rid of everyone and close the borders.
God, I know it’s easier said than done, but we need to convey this to our representative. They are in DC to serve us and our interest, but instead they get bought by corporations and interest groups.
The way DC operates is a major problem that will contribute to the destruction of the country. The whole system is corrupt. I am beginning to think that a parliamentary system like they have in the UK and Israel might serve our purposes better. For instance, in Israel, in order to form a coalition, the main party forming the new government, the one with the most votes in the elections, needs to court the smaller lesser parties to join its coalition. It does it by giving the lesser parties some concessions, which makes their constituents happy, as even if their representatives are not ruling the entire country, at least they have some say. It’s truly a democratic government because it includes more people who get their way, and less people feeling like they are out and not being represented/heard. The 2- party system we have here might have outlived its usefulness now that we are on the cusp of not being the majority in the country anymore. Yet, for almost 160 years no 3rd party has been able to stand on its own two feet. Why? Why can’t we form a 3rd and 4th party in this country? We need at last one new party that doesn’t sound like the two leviathans in the room. Maybe we should change to a parliamentary system like they have in the commons wealth countries and then new parties will be formed.
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Hell, I meant the British Commonwealth countries.
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True. Good observation. But the real question is what will the Hispanics do to us? Maybe the intent all along was to give the AAs some competition and keep them squabbling while we stayed in control?
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http://www.redstate.com/rubiopress/2013/01/30/applying-conservative-principles-to-immigration/
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they take all the jobs wherever they go from what i hear and have seen
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An excellent essay just posted today at The Occidental Observer.
Against Amnesty
By Ted Sallis
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2013/01/against-amnesty/#more-17631
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The fury in these comments is a laugh.
America was BUILT on poor, ignorant immigrants. See, their families don’t stay poor or ignorant. Their children went to college and became upper-middle-class strivers. Their grandchildren are as American as it comes.
Whether they’re legal or illegal doesn’t matter. What matters is the long-term effect upon culture. If you’re a WASP white nationalist, you’re going to have to somehow conveniently skip every major innovation during the two hundred years since the first Irishman or German set foot here.
And for the rest of us who aren’t blinded, we look at historians identifying 1957 as the high point of American culture — which occurred as the millions of children and grandchildren of all those “dirty” Eastern and Southern Europeans hit adulthood.
Proximity + diversity does NOT necessarily mean war. See New York at turn of century, with alternating blocks of Jew, Italian, Pole, Irish, etc. Yeah, they tussled, and even killed, but it’s not like the English didn’t kill each other in the English Civil War, or the French didn’t slaughter each other at regular intervals from 1792 through 1848. No diversity whatsoever then, either.
[Heartiste: Diversity is contextual. When very distinct groups are absent, ethnic cousins will find reasons to hate each other. In group, out group. It’s as old as the cosmos.]
There’s no denying that cultural renewal occurs at the intersection of cultures. If you don’t believe me, I suggest you look up the roots of the Renaissance. Traders who brought rediscovered ideas home to urban Italy from the Arab lands stimulated the new ideas that led to pretty much every other development in the next 500 years of European history.
I just can’t get on board with the fear, anger, and xenophobia. You may argue that some are biologically wired for it, but the history of the world suggests that we only innovate in the presence of new ideas. Which follows diversity.
Hopefully some of you have put two and two together and figured out that maybe, just maybe, America is the most innovative nation on earth precisely *because of* our diversity of thought.
Half-heartedly looking forward to the bitter comments that are sure to follow.
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There’s no denying that cultural renewal occurs at the intersection of cultures. If you don’t believe me, I suggest you look up the roots of the Renaissance. Traders who brought rediscovered ideas home to urban Italy from the Arab lands stimulated the new ideas that led to pretty much every other development in the next 500 years of European history.
You need to read about Byzantine history. Precious little was learned ffrom the Arabs. They were mostly caravan raiders.
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Really?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_in_the_medieval_Islamic_world
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Kind of really.
The notion that the renaissance was caused by vibrant diversity or cultural influence (and that Medieval Europe is intellectually indebted to Islam) is rather grossly exaggerated in the popular consciousness. A pretty good rule: if an empirical fact flatters the left its probably exaggerated.
If you’re really interested in the subject I would recommend scanning the relevant chapters in Robert Irwin’s “Orientalism and its Discontents.” Part of the misconception is, sadly, due to particular Jewish orientalists looking to make Western Civ look bad. Creating a sense of an Islamic scientific golden age which then influenced the West is a good way to do that.
Not that there wasn’t influence; there was, but not nearly so much as is popularly credited.
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… if an empirical fact flatters the left its probably exaggerated. …
Bingo!
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Kind of really.
The popular sense of Islamic contribution to intellectual Europe is rather overblown. A brief summary can be found in Robert Irwin’s “Orientalism and its Discontents.” A good rule for thinking: if an empirical truth flatters the left, it’s probably exaggerated. Leftist POV arguments are subjected to minimal criticism so there’s kind of a case of huge publication bias.
The problem is its hard to sort the good historical arguments from the bad ones unless you’re really smart.
To take an example, Jason thinks the Renaissance was importantly caused by the wonderful vibrancy of intellectual diversity and cross-cultural influence. All right, well there first thing we’d need to do here is identify the intellectual diversity and cross-cultural influence. There certainly was some. The 13th and 14th centuries saw an influx of trade with Byzantium and the East. But how do we know if it was a decisive force behind the Renaissance?
We could look at a bunch of things. I would want to know whether particular intellectual imports actually directly preceded or enabled major Italian discoveries. No one has really looked into this, though, so we’ll have to leave it aside. Its interesting, though, that the Renaissance saw such general intellectual change. If it were caused by Islamic influenced Aristotelian thinking we might expect a radical acceleration in philosophy. Instead we get a dramatic acceleration in all fields including architecture, mathematics, painting, warfare, poetry, and music.
And if we look at poetry and music we’ll run into an interesting problem for our theory, because there was almost zero Islamic influence in these fields. (Poetry minimal to the point of vanishing, music actually 0.)
Ok, so maybe there are some issues with the Islamic influenced renaissance theory. All theories have issues, but can’t we still say Islamic influence was important? Sure, but when you make that move you enter a rather vacuous linguistic domain. You are generalizing from some particular intellectual events the conclusion that Islam was an important influence–even though you don’t really understand the intellectual lineage of major Renaissance discoveries well enough to know if they were or were not Islamic influenced or derived.
But, Tractal, how else could we account for it? Even if the picture is unclear what else are we to make of the fact that the Renaissance semi-coincided with the introduction of Islamic texts. Well, it didn’t. Many of the “golden age” Islamic texts got there earlier (12th century [!]) so there isn’t a very strong temporal relation between the Italian event and new Islamic knowledge.
So what happened in Northern Italy? A bunch of stuff, but one obviously important element would have to be the education system founded around 1300 and related innovations. Jacques Barzun makes has interesting things to say on the topic.
The long point is this: it is very easy to write a vacuously general conclusion about history or human affairs. And as long as your audience fundamentally wants to believe that sort of conclusion they’ll do so.
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Science was mostly done by Greek, Jewish, Persian or other ethnicities with a long history of accomplishment in those areas. All of them had Arabized names. The Arabs let them do their thing and took advantage of it, but they invented very little themselves. So stuff your little PC wikipedia reference.
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That’s the key. The Arabs let others do their thing, which is why all of these ethnic groups flourished in Spain and so much learning ensued. That’s the meaning behind the Golden Age of Spain, not that the Arabs themselves invented that much.
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Ahh, yes, Xenophobia: Of course a notion a liberal disagrees with must be a phobia. It’s not a legitimate opinion, it’s a mental condition.
You have to take into account the situation on the labor market. Importing Engineers makes far more sense than importing unskilled laborers. And someone who has something to contribute also has something to lose, so they are less likely to go the illegal route.
Your argument is to just wait for the third generation of the current immigrants? We’ll be dead by then, and they are draining resources right now that could be put to better use.
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Anyone familiar with immigration knows how difficult our recent bureaucratic policies have made it for America to attract international skilled labor. James Fallows has been harping on this for years.
We should WANT to attract those brilliant minds from India, Japan, wherever — and we should WANT to keep them here.
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I agree with that, but not with allowing a new peasant class to enter, displace the current peasants, and become a new welfare class in two generations. Also assimilation needs to be emphasized rather than vilified.
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Calling people ‘nigs’ and ‘spics’ isn’t helping their assimilation, Tyrone.
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That’s ok. They shouldn’t be here at all.
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Jason, there was a time the immigrant was a needed, and so, many immigrated from European countries – Irish, Italian, J etc… we shared race with them as well as religion, or at least values (if they were J). They came here to escape the old European system as well as for religious freedom. It’s not the case today. Today’s immigrant is not escaping intolerance and looking to the American system as the new model. He’s coming here either because he thinks he can get social services free in America, or for ideological reason such as to spread sharia law and Islamize the American population. Obviously, these are not the right reasons to come to America. On the contrary, it’s hazardous to our national interests and security.
So while indeed, the immigrants of 100 years ago helped build America, surely you can see that it’s dangerous to legalizing millions of illegals who feel Mexico owns half of America or that America is the big devil and should be made to convert or destroyed. Not just security wise, but also because 3rd world immigrants tend to get social services free that we end up paying for (while we ourselves get nothing fee), and also because they take work from people who lived here longer and paid taxes, or fought for this country. It’s just not fair. And for all the liberals talks of fairness, how is it fair to take resources from one group and transfer it to a second group who never earned it ? It’s simply immoral. Immigration is not in our best interest. We already let millions of people move here, now it’s time to stop and allow it for only special cases.
While we are a compassionate people, we can’t possibly take care of every person on the planet and give him/her food, shelter, work, healthcare, education, etc. We try to help many countries with financial and medical aid, but their leaders end up stealing the aid, so that most aid hasn’t helped any of these countries. However, bringing all of these people here is not a viable option either. The best way for people to better their lives is to have a revolution in their own countries and overthrow these oppressive governments, just like we did with the British Empire. The problem is they don’t have the same fortitude that Whites have. They have no concept of freedom and the idea of not being a slave to anyone, as we have in the West and in our Judeo-Christian heritage. It’s in our blood not to be oppressed by anyone, not to be enslaved, not to be ruled. Hence, our various revolutions in the West. Unfortunately, people whose heritage hasn’t been Judeo-Christian, don’t have these concepts. In light of this, the Left thinks it can pour money into these countries or give them handouts when illegals come here, but in fact all we should do is be a good example to them so they can learn from us our values and emulate us in their own societies.
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Jason: “Half-heartedly looking forward to the bitter comments that are sure to follow.”
Yes, Jason, this response will be “bitter.” It will have nothing to do with facts or reality, just “bitterness.” Dude…please.
Your analysis, if it can be dignified as such, and the feeble worldview that underlies it, is so mindnumbingly bad that it really doesn’t deserve a response at all, but I’ll provide a limited one. A full response would literally take a book to undo the fallacious reasoning, cherry picking of facts, and unwarranted conclusions that you draw.
As one example among many (emphasis on many), you claim 1957 as the high point of American culture…and attribute that to the children of white immigrants coming of age…and yet somehow from this we are to conclude that race doesn’t matter and we should open the floodgates….what???
I’d make the usual jibe about “What are you smoking, I want some?” but you seem far to uncool for that to resonate.
Even if we take your year of 1957 as a given for the sake of argument, immigration at that time was extremely limited. Basically, almost all immigrants were white in 1957, and there weren’t many of them. The country as a whole was far, far whiter than today, flirting around 90 percent. Jim Crow and racially conservative attitudes were the norm, and not just in the South. Miscegenation was negligible at most, and the vast majority of Americans would have viewed what little there was with horror and disgust. They were entirely correct in that view, but we’ll stick to the facts.
In short, in 1957, the year that YOU tout, America was a highly racially conscious and overwhelmingly white nation that would, entirely properly and with good reason, consider someone like you to be an imbecile and a kook!
And from this you conclude that we should open the floodgates, race doesn’t matter, let ’em all come pouring in? LOL!
The mind is staggered with such sanctimonious imbecility.
Dude, you really do belong on the short bus. And that is just one of countless absurdities that you either put forth, or which clearly underly your ridiculous excuse of an argument. It would literally take you ten to twenty years just to unlearn all of your demonstrably false assumptions, much less have anything to contribute to intelligent discussion.
I guarantee that you will attribute all of this to….wait for it…bitterness. You’ve been trained well. Don’t forget to drool when they hand you your doggie buscuit.
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Damn, Ryder, you are obnoxious. You also need to read better. Let me be clearer.
By the 1920s, America had just absorbed millions upon millions of Southern and Eastern European immigrants. Nativists were shocked, horrifed at the “lowbrows”, their ignorance, their foreign manners, their darker skin. Many immigrants arrived without papers. Many left within a year or two, especially Italians. They weren’t considered “white” by the nativists.
Sound familiar?
And yet, by 1957, even though the doors had closed with the Emergency Quota Act, the grandchildren of those *horrible* immigrants (eyeroll) were riding high, owning homes, achieving success in mainstream America, and contributing vastly to culture.
We’re at the beginning of the same cycle today. If the cycle holds (this is the third such wave), the children and grandchildren of our many Latino immigrants will improve themselves. It’s called the American Dream.
Thanks for reading. Looking forward to a *substantive* reply.
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Jason: “Damn, Ryder, you are obnoxious.”
But…but…I thought I was like a snowflake, unique and special in my own way.
Jason: “You also need to read better.”
Sigh.
Jason: “Let me be clearer.”
No need. Your problem is not lack of clarity. I completely understand your position, there has been no misunderstanding. In fact, I understand your position far better than you do. The problem is that your position is utterly ridiculous, banal, ignorant and specious. Believe me, you’ve made yourself perfectly clear.
Jason: “They weren’t considered “white” by the nativists.”
Meh. This is more of a canard than anything else. For example, there were anti-miscegenation laws on the books of many, many states (and not just in the South). I’ve researched this subject, and never heard of any directed at white immigrants. In other words, legally speaking and culturally speaking, white immigrants were – shock of shocks – considered white. Which they were.
Of course, you can always trot out some person or other who will say otherwise, but when we look at the totality of the circumstances, your argument is revealed as an empty shell. It’s sophomoric at best, and one of many distortions, absurdities, or outright lies included in what passes for your worldview.
Now, having said that, any time there is massive immigration, white or not, there are going to be problems. Nobody wants to get swamped, from any source. So yes, there were definitely resentments at that particular wave of immigrants. This led to a change in immigration law in the 1920’s, and several decades of minimal immigration. Almost all of it white, and not much of that. Which in turn, if you’re still with me Jason, led to your much vaunted world of 1957. The year that was built on rejecting your worldview, not following it.
That same world of 1957 in which white racial consciousness was off the charts compared to today. That same world of 1957 in which immigration laws were explicitly designed to protect the founding stock of the country. That same world of 1957 in which almost all whites viewed miscegenation as something disgusting and horrible. In other words, that same world that rejected your “race doesn’t matter” nonsense. They believed that race matters a great deal, which of course it does.
That same world, my dear if insufferably ignorant Jason, that rejected your worldview in much harsher terms than even I am doing now. Yet you point to such a world, a world that rejected your position and would have considered you an idiotic kook, in support of your position. You then go on, astonishingly, to support the very policies which destroyed the world of 1957…by appealing to 1957. LOL!
Truly bizarro world.
Again, Jason, your problem is not a lack of clarity. I’m not even going to tell you to read better. It will do you no good until you can THINK. And dude, you’re not even close.
Jason: “We’re at the beginning of the same cycle today. If the cycle holds (this is the third such wave), the children and grandchildren of our many Latino immigrants will improve themselves.”
Jason, do you possess a magic wand by any chance? If not, perhaps you might want to look at what is actually happening on the ground with second and third generation hispanics. Or do you not want to let facts get in the way of your nonsense? Hint: it’s not turning out as you claim, and it is not replicating the exerpiences of second and third generation white immigrants. For all practical purposes, today is the “new” 1957. The future is already here. Your absurd advice has been followed, and the results are already disastrous.
Maybe you might want to ask yourself some very basic questions. And I mean basic. For instance, is a mestizo really the same thing as a Swede? A Somali the same thing as a German? And from that, are the consequnces of swamping a nation with millions of Germans the same as swamping it with millions of Somalis, or mestizos?
I’ll end on this, Jason. If you are incapable of dealing with the facts on the ground, of observing the reality around you, and even incapable of distinguishing a Somali from an Irishman…you are way too short for this ride. Seriously.
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“is a mestizo really the same thing as a Swede? A Somali the same thing as a German? And from that, are the consequnces of swamping a nation with millions of Germans the same as swamping it with millions of Somalis, or mestizos?”
Swedes and Germans aren’t coming here. They have a pretty good life in their own habitat. It’s the 3rd wolrd coming here, as well as to other Western countries, and they are not even bashful about making us feel that we must take them in, as they think we made our wealth on their backs and we owe them everything. Leftists activists told them this for the past 50 years.
Leftists activists work contrary to Western interests on purpose.
In any case, we don’t need German and Swedes here either. They are all hard liberals and they will only side with the left. Look at Pierce Morgan – how fanatic he is about his liberal brainwashing from his life in the UK. Look how much damage he is doing to the 2nd Amendement. That’s why all immigration should be slashed by 99% and be allowed only for special cases, like scientists, performers, magnates, etc…. even though they too tend to be liberal, but at least there is some secondary side-benefits to have them immigrate here.
No, we really don’t need any more immigration until we sort out our internal affairs and figure out where this country is headed. Is it headed for secession, or is it going to try to come together based on the original guidelines found in the Constitution. It’s either or, because the present system isn’t sustainable for much longer.
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I’m fine with optimizing “diversity of thought”.
Has it occurred to you yet that this is best accomplished by reducing Mexican immigration by >99%, and replacing them with other willing immigrants of far higher caliber? (Hispanics would then still be heavily overrepresented relative to what the human capital analogue of modern portfolio theory would prescribe, but that’s pretty much inevitable given the history of what’s currently the US southwest; there’s no good reason to make the situation any worse than it has to be.)
Any “diversity of thought” advocate who does not admit this is a reasonable position is obviously intellectually dishonest.
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Also, for liberals diversity means people who look different but think and talk the same. It’s quite obvious in corporations.
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Yup, and that’s a recipe for stagnation. We should include people in our circles who think differently from us.
Bush’s pathetic planning for post-Iraq policy is a great example of what happens when groupthink takes over. So it’s on both sides of the aisle.
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Bush’s plan tried to appease the Europeans and Cultural Marxist fifth column in our society, which is why it was a disaster. They should have never disbanded the army or the security appartus from Sadaam’s days, but simply bought them out and let them handle things for us. How conveniently the loud mouths forget.
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Yup. Not one person in Bush’s war room ever suggested that disbanding the Iraqi army was a bad thing. Of the only two who ever disagreed — Powell and Rice — one left, and the other kept her mouth shut.
Groupthink. We should hear different points of view, and make decisions accordingly. Lincoln did it. Obama (gasp! the horror!) does it.
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And how many people on the left would have made those suggestions to not disband the Iraqi Army? Can you name some? I can’t think of any. I’m pretty sure Rumsfeld and Cheney both wanted to keep it in place. As far as Opie hearing other ideas, he claims to listen then dictates his original decision.
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I actually Googled it. According to this article, nobody’s taking credit for quite possibly the worst foreign policy decision of the decade. No surprise there. Rumseld/Cheney are denying, but they’re a couple of slimy operatives.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/war_stories/2007/09/who_disbanded_the_iraqi_army.html
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We should have never put the Shias in charge of the Sunnis. Most of the Iraqi army was Sunni. Now it’s the Shias killing the Sunnis.
It’s the leftists in Bush’s government who suggested this policy. You know….it’s about equalizing everything. The Shias were seen as the underdog prosecuted minority, so that’s why they got to rule Iraq. Now, look at the mess there.
Iraq should either be split into 2, or the Shias should go back to Iran and be with people of their own religion. Multiculturalism doesn’t work.
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Jason: “We should include people in our circles who think differently from us.”
More brilliant advice from Jason. What does this even MEAN, exactly? Pure modernist bilge.
Should businesses be required to have communists on their board of directors? I suspect the communist will “think differently,” so that must be good, right?
Maybe instead of being able to go to a doctor, you should be sent to a witchdoctor? I’m sure he will “think differently.” That’ll be great, for sure.
My god, what utter tripe.
Jason: “Bush’s pathetic planning for post-Iraq policy is a great example of what happens when groupthink takes over.”
LOL! “Groupthink”?
The Iraq fiasco couldn’t have resulted from influential interest groups (special thanks to Israel and the military industrial complex), terrible policy, ridiculous premises and false assumptions.
It wasn’t a result of the self interest of the powerful, or faulty thinking and outright deception, but of “groupthink.” Got it. If they had just thrown in a few communists and witchdoctors, maybe a satanist or two, everything would have been peaches and cream. We’d have had Vermont on the Tigris! Darn it, missed it by that much. What a shame.
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There are so many straw men in this message that it looks like a cornfield in Nebraska. I shoot down fallacies only when they’re in season.
If you want to argue reasonably, though, I’m game.
P.S. Re: groupthink and Iraq, please see above exchange with Tyrone, who actually understood what I was saying.
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It’s hard to take you seriously when you start spewing conspiracy theories about Israel wanting the Iraq war. I am sure you also believe Israel was behind 9/11. Please adopt a more broad understanding of politics instead of blaming it always on the Jooz.
Let’s review. The Iraq war was the result of faulty intelligence. It was believed by most of the world western allies that Sadam had WMD. It wasn’t far from the realm of possibility since he did use chemical weapons on his opponents, the Shias and Iran. So after 9/11 we wanted to clean out the Middle East from both terrorist and madmen like Sadam. The problem is, if we are going to embark on such a trajectory we can’t be pussies. We can’t faint at the sight of blood. We have to prosecute the policy to the end. The Left can’t do that and they kept chipping at Bush’s policy until he gave in to them because he lacked backbone. Instead, his Administration started to say that America is in Iraq to bring it democracy. Unfortunately, this could never come to fruition, and he shouldn’t have changed his objectives from drying the terrorist swamps and destroying the madmen, to democratization of the Arab world.
America has to understand that we can’t being democracy to any country. We can only serve as an example. Nations that want to be free, need to learn to do it for themselves. Unfortunately, much of non-Western countries don’t have the mentality of freedom and being free, which makes democracy work in the West. They can’t grasp it. They are simply not meant to be democratic until they embrace western ideals, which they might never will. It took us thousands of years to get there ourselves, at least almost 2,500 years since the Hebrews first spoke about freedom and the Greeks had the first democracy. However, for us to forcefully implant it into other societies is wrong and futile.
So that’s where Bush went wrong. He meant well, but he was wrong.
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Sorry correction. I meant so say:
It took us thousands of years to get there ourselves, at least almost 3,500 years since the Hebrews first spoke about freedom, and 2,500 years since the Greeks first practiced democracy.
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Jason: “There are so many straw men in this message that it looks like a cornfield in Nebraska.”
Mockery does not equal a straw man.
Jason, again, you are far too short for this ride, and convincing yourself that others just “don’t understand” you (when in fact they understand you all too well) doesn’t make you any taller. But by all means, get back to spouting platitudes and silly canards, such as “diversity” and “groupthink.” You are, quite unintentionally, hilarious.
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NL: “It’s hard to take you seriously when you start spewing conspiracy theories about Israel wanting the Iraq war. I am sure you also believe Israel was behind 9/11. Please adopt a more broad understanding of politics instead of blaming it always on the Jooz.”
Firstly, you are shamelessly lying. I haven’t spewed any conspiracy theories whatsoever. It’s no secret that Israel has an incredibly powerful lobby. If that’s a “conspiracy,” then it is one that operates in plain sight, though precisely because of its power, it is impolitic to speak of it.
Given that fact, people can make up their own minds as to how important of a consideration it is for our involvement in Middle Eastern wars, but I think most are going to conclude that it is quite significant. Trying to blow that off as a “conspiracy theory” is absurd. Is it a conspiracy theory to say that there are other interest groups, like the NRA (or its opponents), that also push agendas? Grow up.
But that wasn’t really the point of my post, per se, though it’s telling that you honed in on it. The point was that, in the real world as opposed to politically correct fantasyland, there are real powers, interests, and agendas in play. To write off such a failure as “groupthink,” like our moron Jason, is absolutely shameless. Instead, real people with real agendas pushed this disaster through, and huge numbers of people are dead today because of it. Jason’s blaming this on “groupthink” is so laughably ridiculous as to deserve nothing but mockery and derision.
Then there is you and your accusations of conspiracy theories, which seem intended to ensure that no uncomfortable conclusions about reality are formed. Sorry dude, but that little con doesn’t work like it used to, and it works less and less every day.
Jason is literally too stupid to understand any of this. Haven’t read enough of your posts to know if that’s true of you too, but if not, it’s even worse.
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@Ryder
“Firstly, you are shamelessly lying. I haven’t spewed any conspiracy theories whatsoever. It’s no secret that Israel has an incredibly powerful lobby. If that’s a “conspiracy,” then it is one that operates in plain sight, though precisely because of its power, it is impolitic to speak of it.”
Well, I’m not just lying, I just noticed a trend with you. Israel is not the only thing you mentioned. You also blamed the Jooz for trying to detract from Western civilization by saying the Arabs influenced it or invented stuff. I never read this take. What I read and what most of us read is that Arabs were much more permissive than the Christians while they were ruling Spain, and they let many different ethnic groups flourish there and that created favorable conditions for learning to ensue. That’s the meaning behind the Golden Age of Spain, not that the Arabs themselves invented that much. So, I don’t see what Robert Irwin is getting at or what the point of his book is. It seems many critics thought his book was pointless, and its only purpose was to be an answer to Edward Said who was pro-Palestinian/anti-America/anti-West/ university professor (color me surprised) and orientalist himself.
Regarding the Israeli lobby, most people who scream about the Israeli lobby exaggerate its influence and overlook all the other more powerful lobbies in DC, simply because they have an axe to grind. I don’t see what there is to be worried about with the Israeli lobby. Either you are on Israel’s side, a western nation that shares our Judeo-Christian/western values and democratic ideals, or you’re on the Arabs’ side, nations who call us Satan, have nothing in common with us historically, and in fact have waged war on us and say they want to covert us or kill us. Please, exercise some common sense.
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NL: “Well, I’m not just lying, I just noticed a trend with you.”
Yes, you are lying. You claimed that I spewed “conspiracy theories.” I have done no such thing. With all the readily observable phenomena, why do I need conspiracy theories?
NL: “Israel is not the only thing you mentioned. You also blamed the Jooz for trying to detract from Western civilization by saying the Arabs influenced it or invented stuff.”
WTF are you talking about? I made no such claim, nor did I discuss anything related to that. I will say, here and now, that the Jewish dominated media and other cultural lines of transmission have spent many years undermining and degrading Western civilization. Attributing credit to alien cultures while denigrating our own is a readily observable characteristic of the current system, and hardly qualifies as a “conspiracy theory.” Observing the disproportionate influence of organized Jewry in this process, going back at least to the Frankfurt School, is not a conspiracy theory. Again, all of this is being done in plain sight. But by all means, keep reaching!
NL: “I never read this take. What I read and what most of us read is that Arabs were much more permissive than the Christians while they were ruling Spain….”
Dude, I never engaged in any such discussion. You’re confused. I will say, again in the here and now, that desperately trying to come up with historical examples as a fig leaf to cover swamping white countries, and only white countries, with non-whites is dishonest and anti-white. Since I have no idea what part you played in a discussion that I never engaged in, or even meaningfully read (I seem to remember reading something in passing, but wasn’t particularly interested), I have no idea what your position was, no do I have an interest in debating that particular point. I’d note that pretty much any meme propagated in modern academia/media/etc is, more than likely, anti-white, and a pathetic and typically dishonest attempt to provide cover for the swamping of white homelands.
NL “Regarding the Israeli lobby, most people who scream about the Israeli lobby exaggerate its influence and overlook all the other more powerful lobbies in DC, simply because they have an axe to grind.”
Perhaps. But it would also appear that organized Jewry has its own axe to grind – with the historic European descended population. I’ll let you in on a little secret. Growing up I was very pro-Israel. I even had a little toy Israeli tank, with the Star of David on it and everything. I had no problem with the Jews having a homeland of their own, I thought it only natural. Still do. I identified far more with Israel than I did with the Arabs. I admired Milton Friedman, Ayn Rand, etc. It was only later that I realized that, though I was not anti-Jew, organized Jewry was anti-me.
Obviously,not every individual Jew. Personally, I’ve never had any problems at that level, and in fact have had some good experiences. But at the organized level, Jewry is functionally anti-white. They are to have their own homeland, but all white countries, and only white countries, are to be swamped by non-whites. Miscegenation in white homelands is wonderful, because it means fewer whites. Not so wonderful in Israel. Anyone who publicly disagrees with this is reduced to a bread crumb. We’ve come to a staggering point where no prominent white can publicly defend his fellow white people, his own tribe. Not a single one. Let that sink in for a minute. Just blaming that on “liberalism” alone isn’t going to cut it.
So here is something to consider, NL. Instead of trying to ride herd on the “right,” attempting to distract them from the obviously disproportionate Jewish role in a whole host of destructive and pernicious trends, why don’t you try to convince organized Jewry to stop being anti-white? Ride herd on them instead. Riding herd on us just isn’t going to work like the good old days. And I’ll go a step further: I’ll be happy to support a Jewish homeland the minute organized Jewry (not just token outliers, but with their financial, media and academic resources) supports my right to the same.
NL: “Please, exercise some common sense.”
LOL! I shall certainly endeavor to do so. Meanwhile, you might consider dropping the annoying and dishonest habit of claiming that real world politics, and its attendant interest groups, agendas, etc., are just “conspiracy theories.” It’s obscene, and it’s not flying like it did in the past. But hey, you had a good run!
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“Grow up.”
No, you need to grow up. I find people who spew anti-Israel nonsense while overlooking our real enemies have absolutely no winning argument, and their whole shtick is based on their anti-Jooz bigotry. Israel doesn’t want to hurt us. All it wants is to survive on the same site of its ancient homeland, which the Arabs stole. There are about 50 Islamic countries in the world, but only one little J-ish state in the same place it always stood for the last 4,000 years. Yet, the Arabs wage war on it nonstop. And guess what, when they finish off Israel they will turn their attention to us so it’s in our best interest to support Israel. That’s why I said adopt a more broad understanding of politics instead of blaming it always on the Jooz. Wise up!
“But that wasn’t really the point of my post, per se, though it’s telling that you honed in on it.”
I honed in on it because I am tired of this Disney Channel understanding of politics by some of the readers here. Their childish hysteria at Israel is laughable when America has so many dangerous enemies – real enemies, not imaginary ones called Israel or the Jooz
“Jason is literally too stupid to understand any of this. Haven’t read enough of your posts to know if that’s true of you too, but if not, it’s even worse.”
Jason is a liberal and he makes no secret of that. He believes in “live and let live,” which is a nice concept and it works in theory, but not in the real world because while we let others live, they’ll want to replace us. It’s human nature to compete – individual people compete with each other, and so do nations and peoples. He doesn’t understand this basic concept, or sees the dangers. I, on the other hand, wrote many of my opinions on the subject in this thread. I want to slash all immigration by 99% and allow it only in very special cases. I most definitely don’t want to give amnesty to all those illegal immigrants from Latin America or from wherever.
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NL “I find people who spew anti-Israel nonsense while overlooking our real enemies have absolutely no winning argument, and their whole shtick is based on their anti-Jooz bigotry.”
I won’t say this is a lie per se, but it is certainly an evasion and distortion. As I explained to you, I’m not particularly anti-Israel, at least in terms of the ideal of the ethnostate (how it’s turned out is another matter, but is really beyond the scope of the debate). And while I don’t know the particular commenters you are referencing, I’m guessing most are not really all that mad at Israel in and of itself. They are probably a hundred times angrier at what Jewish influence is doing to their own homelands.
I don’t blame Jews for wanting a homeland, but if I want the same then I’m a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews. You know exactly what I’m talking about and, if you don’t, you’re not competent to engage in a debate of this nature. But I’m betting you know.
Organized Jewry also puts its enormous media and financial weight in opposition to the very views that you espouse. As one example amongst many, research the forces behind the change in immigration law of 1965. Here is a hint: the blame goes a lot further than Ted Kennedy and liberalism. Organized Jewry was a critical factor in opening the floodgates, and keeping them open. This isn’t a “conspiracy theory,” but simply a well documented case of real people with real agendas carrying them out. In plain sight. Funny sort of conspiracy, that.
So again, I’m not “anti-Israel.” I don’t fault the Jews for wanting a homeland. But the simple reality is that they don’t want me to have one. White countries, and only white countries, are to be flooded and the native populations bred out of existence, or at least their identies completely morphed. That’s progress….just not in Israel. Israel exists to protect the Jewish identity. Whites, though? They aren’t allowed to even HAVE an identity, much less protect it. So, NL, I ask you, who created this situation? Who really needs to change? Is it really all the fault of those gosh darned “liberals?” Nobody else?
So again, ride herd on them, not us. Nobody would be happier than me if organized Jewry put its considerable weight behind white self-determination, instead of always undermining it. But right now, reality is what it is, and you are brazenly ignoring it. Is this intentional, or are you really clueless about one of the most influential groups in all of the West, and the positions that it has consisently taken? My bet is on the former, as you doth protest a bit too much.
And you are candycoating Jason’s position. With him, it’s not a mere matter of ideological disagreement. He is unable and unwilling to make even the most elementary of distinctions, and engages in fallacious reasoning to the point of absurdity. He’s either a moron or he’s got aspergers. If things had been a little different, he could have easily been one of the tards rah-rahing for Romney. What he thinks is irrelevant, because he doesn’t think, at least not much beyond what Pavlov’s dogs must have thought. What you are doing, on the other hand, is quite different. You might want to ponder why that is, and then ask, “Is gross misrepresentation any way to go through life?” To not only ignore, but deny the existence of a well known and powerful group would be akin to me denying that the NRA has any influence whatsoever in its bailiwick. It’s absurd.
Unless there is something worth responding to, I’ll consider that it for this exchange. My position is simple: Jews are influential, and they use their influence in ways hostile to whites. A hard position to refute, but feel free. Otherwise, there is no point in continuing a debate where you deny the obvious, and tell anyone who disagrees that they are spouting conspiracy theories and need to grow up. Again, would it make any sense to continue to debate about gun control with a person who denies any influence of the NRA, and calls anyone who disagrees a conpiracy theorist?
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Holy shit man you are an idiot.
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If you can’t see the difference between moderate intellectual diversity and radical racial and cultural diversity, and actually think increasing the later is an even proximately efficient way to increase the former you just suck at thinking. Other than the word “diversity” these things have little to do with each other, and that you would seriously sit here and tell us that we should make major cultural, demographic, political, and economic sacrifices in order to attain an intellectual diversity at best only tangentially and very likely INVERSELY related to the policy is just… i mean… do you even lift?
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… We should include people in our circles who think differently from us….
Isaac Newton, Thomas Edison, Louis Pasteur, , the Wright brothers, Henry Ford, Bill Gates – to name a few – thought differently, yet they were all whites of European descent
there was no need for people from different races and cultures to create the greatest civilization that ever was
and there is still no need for that today despite what liberals are telling us lying trough their teeth
Was it African or Guatemalan culture ( to pick one at random ) that made Isaac Newton figure out the laws of physics?
Was it African culture or Guatemalan culture ( to pick one at random ) that made Louis Pasteur figure out how to kill bacteria?
Was it African culture or Guatemalan culture ( to pick one at random ) that made the Wright brothers figure out how to make an airplane be airborne?
Was it African culture or Guatemalan culture ( to pick one at random ) that made Thomas Edison invent the light bulb and a few hundred more inventions?
Was it African culture or Guatemalan culture ( to pick one at random ) that made Bill Gates do all he has accomplished?
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Well said! It’s too logical though, so I don’t think liberals understand logic.
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Good post.
“Was it African culture or Guatemalan culture ( to pick one at random ) that made the Wright brothers figure out how to make an airplane be airborne?”
Of course not, but witless Jason would actually replace men like the Wright brothers with Africans or Guatemalans. He claims there is no difference, race just doesn’t matter, and all is good so long as we have diversity, which roughly translates into non-whites swamping white countries and only white countries. I used to think those churches that handle snakes were crazy, but they’ve got nothing on the cult du jour.
Oh, and make certain to avoid “groupthink.” LOL!
And to think that this is how the world ends, not with a bang, or even a whimper, but with cultish and dimwitted platitudes spouted by morons. Jason, poster boy of modernity.
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Regarding the last paragraph. Yes, they do fear armed and informed citizens.
The government want to ban guns and uses dirty tricks to do so.
It didn’t work. So we got the mass shootings.
How we know a guide on counseling children about Sandy Hook predated the massacre:
http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2013/01/26/how-we-know-a-guide-on-counseling-children-about-sandy-hook-predated-the-massacre
It’s not the first time that the media reports events before they happen.
But surely it’s just coincident, the government would never do that, would they?
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Putin has the right attitude here.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/timstanley/100200911/vladimir-putin-hires-boyz-ii-men-to-boost-the-russian-birth-rate-authoritarians-know-how-to-have-fun/
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http://spectator.org/archives/2013/01/31/spies-traitors-agents-of-influ
If the niggers you’re blowing can read, have them read this to you while you work your magic. FDR’s administration riddled with communists! Whoda thunk it!
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Unless the demographic shift in this country ends soon, Whitey is gonna be really punished by Nature. He needs to man up and protect his territory and genes.
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One of the many absurdities is the argument: “We have x million ‘undocumented aliens’ living within our borders. They will not go away,
so we must provide a path to legalize them and provide a path to citizenship”, or various variants.
This is of course nonsense. There are several alternatives to the “must”.
One of which is to deport them en masse, as soon as they are caught.
Difficult, but not impossible.
Another is to just leave things as they are, and they stay in the shadows.
A third is to legalize their residency, with the specific proviso that this does
NOT provide a path to citizenship.
There are presumably other solutions.
One problem now essentially unique to the US, is that essentially anybody (except children of foreign diplomats, who fail the “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” test) who is born on US soil is an instant citizen, even if the mother was just over in San Diego for the day, maybe illegally. This might take a constitutional amendment to fix.
Thor
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OMG SOMETHING JUST HIT ME.
Due to the one child policy, China is likely sufferring from female hypergamy to a greater degree than the United States.
Women have a stronger incentive to aggressively cuckold their husbands, and alphas have a stronger incentive to aggressively impregnate mistresses, including married women.
If you only get one (legally) the men have an incentive to put illegal buns in married ovens, and women have an even higher incentive to ensure that it’s alpha seed they’re getting.
PS: This thing apparently sells in China: http://www.dreamloverlabs.com/
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http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/hispanics-white-population-california-87004.html
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