Commenter Revo Luzione suggests a reason why the exclamation snort is not attractive when women use it:
Kate: “Many a text exchange has reached a dead end when I reply with “snort.””
That’s because elephants, rhinos, and angry Holsteins all snort before charging.
Snort!
This gets to a larger point: the snark and snideness and gleeful antagonism that works for men to attract women does not sit as well on women when they use it to try and attract men. This is because male aloofness and other male value-raising ploys — of which the Theory of Snort is a part — are designed to appeal to women’s natural hypergamous urge for higher status (read: condescending) men than themselves. In contrast, men are not attracted to women’s social status, and in fact may be put off by women with higher social or economic status than themselves. Men’s hypergamy, such as it is, seeks ever more beautiful and feminine women. And there is nothing about leaving an impression of an angry Holstein that makes women seem more beautiful or feminine.
True that.
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For the record, we give Kate a ton of shit at the Chateau, but the chick is a single mom, who is doing her best to keep her head above water, and she sure could use a real man in her life, right about now, to fill that great big empty hole in her [and her children’s] family.
Judging from her picture, the chick looks to be young enough to push out three or four more progeny for the Heartister bachelor who has the balls to put up with her snorting.
And her heart certainly seems to be in the right place.
[Heartiste: I think she was kidding about the snorting. Useful to make a general point, though.]
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OMG, I leave this place unsupervised for half a day and this is what happens!!! LOL As I posted the other day, the snort was in reply to a ridiculous text. I will post the conversation later to clear my name in court before a jury of my peers!!!
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Leykis 101: Don’t date single moms.
Also what real man would want to be saddled with some interloper’s spawn?
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I did it for 15 years. It was eventful. She was hot, and I raised those kids right.
After the divorce, they disowned me however. Shit happens. I have no regrets.
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Single mom…real man…
Chills
This will not end well, fortunately I’m a proud fake man with no balls
But one thing I’m not doing is making payments on kids that aren’t mine.
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Was ambiguious..at first i thought Kate was talking about what women do sometimes when they laugh you know..LOL *snort*. Some people find that trait amusing i guess, but its definitely not sexy or feminine either.
@Zombie Shane “.. to fill that great big empty hole in her..”
You gotta sell her better than that man. 😉
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Thanks, Zombie 🙂
People do tend to think I look younger than I am, but I’m 34. I term myself a “divorced parent” because I was with my ex-husband for ten years. The four years it has taken me since to get over that and get the hang of this newfangled dating thing has probably made me too old for more children. That’s hard, but I do have her, and she’s a sweetheart!
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Women who have already had children have an easier time conceiving, so maybe all is not lost (if that’s what you want).
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I dont know that it is anymore, but I’ve been told by a regal source that that’ll be up to my husband. Btw, if you don’t mind me asking, how many months are you now? This is rather exciting! A baby at the Chateau!
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LOL thanks! I am six months along now (if you count by lunar calendar).
Nice new pic! You have a really good body!
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How exciting! I’ll get the servants to start fixing up a nursery!
And thank you. Waist hot, want not 😉
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Don’t worry about more children. Raise your daughter right and show her the way.
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Thanks 🙂 That’s the goal.
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probably made me too old for more children
I don’t want to put words in your mouth, but if you don’t want any more children, then you shouldn’t be back on the dating market for another 15 years or so.
And for the sake of goodness, please don’t rope in some poor gullible white-knight nice guy, and get him all emotionally involved with you and your daugther, and then suddenly drop a nuclear bombshell on him, along the lines of, “Oh, and by the way, I don’t want to have any more children.”
Now, again, you didn’t say that you didn’t want to have any more children [and, again, I don’t want to put words in your mouth], but the ONE AND ONLY REASON to start dating again is precisely to make more children with some new fellow [who we hope will prove to be a more worthy mate than your ex-husband].
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PS: And from what I saw of you in those pictures, you shouldn’t have any trouble making more babies.
[To the extent that an amateur armchair Google-Doctor can extrapolate from the patient’s dermatological condition to her obstetrics condition…]
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🙂 I wouldn’t be surprised if I was still fertile. I had her at twenty-eight and it was a one shot deal.
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“you shouldn’t be back on the dating market for another 15 years or so.”
I was not built to be a nun. Nor would I sentence anyone to fifteen years of companionless loneliness. There are lots of men who are on dating sites you 1) don’t want children, or 2) already have grown children. It is very easy to screen for people who have compatible family structures.
I have no wish to dupe or delude a white-knight. I could never respect someone I’d tricked or feel good about myself for having done such a thing.
I can’t say I wouldn’t want any more children for sure because as soon as I fall in love with someone, its biologically wired in me to start thinking: must make babies. But, realistically, I have a six year old who is done with nursing, teething, diapering, and I don’t know that I’d want to do all of that again.
If I had someone supporting me, it’d be a much more real consideration. Working full-time, doing it a second time without someone to help, no. Never again.
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I don’t see why you can’t hook up with a man who already has a child or two? It makes more sense than going out with a complete bachelor who doesn’t have kids and can’t understand your commitment to your child, or how it alters your lifestyle in respect to him.
The two of you could raise your respective kids together, and even have another child in common to strengthen your love and commitment. It’s not good to marry a man without having kids with him. I mean, marriage should really be about kids. How is this scenario bad?
And why are all these men acting like your life is lost because you are a single mother? Not all single mothers are created equal. Not all are trashy drug users or sluts. Sometimes, marriage doesn’t work out, what can we do? Kill ourselves, or try to move on and make life the best it can under the circumstances? Don’t despair and don’t let your spirit down. Oh, and please don’t “snort” anymore. 😉
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A question for you:
You married him at 20 and you had a baby at 28, when things already weren’t going well, why? Did you think it will save your marriage?
Also, why did you wait that long to have a child? Maybe if you had a child earlier he would have become more responsible. I know I’m speculating, but we’re all trying to learn from each other’s experiences.
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You need a Black man! He give you some kids right off! Maybe he’ll even throw in some diaper money an shit,nomesyane?
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I could. Tonight’s date has a 21 year old and tomorrow’s has a 25 year old. People with younger children are going to be people closer to my age and that just doesn’t seem to work out.
We fell in love the summer before my 20th birthday. We got married the summer before my 23rd. I divorced him after my 30th. Yes, I did think it was something he wanted and that it would help bring us closer.
I couldn’t find full-time work the first year we were married, but I did the next year. It made sense to establish my career first because he didn’t make enough money for me not to work. I definitely wanted to have children then, but I probably wouldn’t have been mature enough to handle it.
One day, a few years later, he came home and told me he had cancer. I was 26 and he was 37. It was after all his treament and the consequences of that that I felt he would change. He didn’t and continued to drink even when his doctors told him not to. That’s what addiction is. I was just too naive to know what was going on.
A few months after I was pregnant he got into the worst argument with my parents they’d had yet. They responded by cutting him out of their lives, which effectively left me choosing between them and him. Well, what was I going to do? I chose my husband. Enough time has passed now that I am on better terms with my parents, but I still don’t forgive any of them for what happened. Now its my daughter and me.
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Does your parole officer know you’re here?
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Take 2: I can, but men in my newly dicovered age bracket have older children, which seems perfect. Having children was put off by my career because he couldn’t support me, his cancer, his drinking, family opposition, etc.
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I can’t say I wouldn’t want any more children for sure because as soon as I fall in love with someone, its biologically wired in me to start thinking: must make babies.
Listen to your biological wiring – God imbued you with it for a reason.
But pretty much everything else you said was just so much femcunt nihilistic horseshit.
Find yourself a good guy, who will be a good step-father for your daughter, and start making more babies with him.
Or even just a mediocre guy who will be a mediocre step-father for your daughter.
“Meh” is better than nothing.
So hurry up and get to work.
Before it’s too late.
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I have a half brother, nine years younger than me, who I’m really close to. If you meet someone who wants to have kids, I don’t see why you shouldn’t.
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“Listen to your biological wiring – God imbued you with it for a reason.”
I also though God was recalling me to my marriage when my ex got cancer. I listened to that and was never unfaithful, but I hurt and lost someone I loved very much.
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but I hurt and lost someone I loved very much
WTF?!?
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It seems my other posts are lost, but the gist is that I have consistently tried to do the right/good thing by others in my life and have, as a result, been consistently smacked in the face with a two by four. If you would find it hard to maintain your attraction to someone who gained fifteen pounds, imagine how hard it would be to sustain any kind of goodwill toward someone whose addiction was ruining your life. Imagine how easy it would be to fall for anyone who was kind to you. That is what happened. Looking back with the knowledge I have now, I can only be glad I stayed the course as it is nothing out of the ordinary for people to have affairs. What is less common- as Spiralina so aptly pointed out- is to refuse to participate in them.
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Kate #1: I listened to that and was never unfaithful, but I hurt and lost someone I loved very much.
Kate #2: Imagine how easy it would be to fall for anyone who was kind to you. That is what happened. Looking back with the knowledge I have now, I can only be glad I stayed the course as it is nothing out of the ordinary for people to have affairs. What is less common- as Spiralina so aptly pointed out- is to refuse to participate in them.
Okay, I am really confused.
How many guys are we talking about here?
First, there’s the alcoholic [now] ex-husband with cancer [obviously].
But is there some second guy here, some soulmate whom you met and fell in love with, while you were separated from you husband?!?
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“you husband” = your husband
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Ugh. “Red-pill” should be “blue-pill.” That is the worst of my blue pill stories.
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Zombie,
I realize you are trying to help so I’ll answer one last question, but it does me no good to dredge up all these unpleasant memories. There was someone that I knew that I fell in love with while I was married before my ex became ill. I was questioning then whether I should leave the marriage. I did not believe in divorce and felt this unacted upon attraction would pass. Then my ex became ill redirecting my attention to him and what I though was the right course of action. He seemed to want to have a child after that, so we did. Thing came apart over the course of the pregnancy and her first year. Unbeknownst to me, this other person began divorce proceedings at the same time I did. When I was legally divorced, I shared how I felt with him. He didn’t want to hear it. I tried to remain a supportive person for him. He assured me they were not reconcilling. Not long after that, I heard from another source he and his wife were moving to start over. We did have a chance to say an innocent goodbye, he left, and I have not seen him in three and a half years. About nine months later, I met the man with the fake identity. About a year and a half later I realized he *had* a fake identity. Those are the worst of my red pill stories, and now the book of Kate’s stories of delusions is hopefully closed.
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The men you’re considering have kids in their 20s? That means these men are in their 50s (maybe late 40s). Well, if you’re comfortable with that, good. It’s almost a given men in that age group with grown kids don’t want to do it all over again with a second wife. That said, sharing your genes is both romantic and good for a relationship, provided you’re right for each other, of course. Therefore, you should definitely NOT rule it out.
“One day, a few years later, he came home and told me he had cancer. I was 26 and he was 37. It was after all his treament and the consequences of that that I felt he would change. He didn’t and continued to drink even when his doctors told him not to. That’s”
So he was drinking even before his illness?
I assume he still didn’t stop his self-destructive behavior and he continued drinking. Did he survive his illness?
“They responded by cutting him out of their lives, which effectively left me choosing between them and him.”
They were partly supporting you guys?
It’s too bad he wasn’t making enough to support you. Maybe if he were more serious about his job than about drinking, things would be different. Of course, I am speculating, and anyway there is no use crying over spilled milk, but it’s important not to repeat the mistakes of the past. I hate to say it, but it might be important for you to pick someone who is more financially stable this time around. Maybe that’s another reason you’re picking them much older now.
There is no question about it, you had it rough. The people you trusted most let you down too. That can’t be easy to deal with. That’s why it’s time to think carefully before every step you make. Sorry to hear you had so much pain.
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I replied days ago, but I’ll give it another shot. Someone who seemed like a soulmate, yes, but, in reality, no. When we’re in love, we cannot conceive that anyone could be more perfect for us; but once we have perspective we can see more clearly and recognize that they may not have been as wonderful a match as originally thought. Otherwise, its likely things would have worked out. As one continues on and develops and grows, the people they begin to draw to them are more and more close to that idealized notion of a “soulmate.” The only way to believe one is with their soulmate is to never fall out of love with them. Its not so much “the one” as its “the last man standing.”
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Thanks, Lily. I imagine many people have similar negative experiences in their past. Its best to learn from them but not dwell on them.
I’ve gotten to know about three men now who had children in their twenties, yes. Yes, he started drinking when he was 16. I had no idea how serious it was. I just assumed he was a social drinker like most people are.
Naturally he has not stopped drinking. He does not even consider he has a problem. He doesn’t understand why anything bad has happened to him. It wasn’t until a year after our divorce when he assaulted someone that I even snapped out of the fog. Yes, he has been cancer free for eight years.
No, my parents were not supporting us. We all ran a small family business together during the summers.
“it might be important for you to pick someone who is more financially stable this time around.”
Would you believe this though had occurred to me? 😉 I’m not nineteen anymore.
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“Would you believe this though had occurred to me? I’m not nineteen anymore.”
Right, when you’re that young you think you can still make it, so it’s ok if you live in a shack while you’re going to school or building a business. But at your age, and with a child, it’s time to be more realistic. Don’t feel guilty about it. You have to do what is right for Kate. Hell, everyone else here is preaching doing what is right for them, learn form that.
“Yes, he started drinking when he was 16. I had no idea how serious it was. I just assumed he was a social drinker like most people are.”
I don’t want to make you feel bad about yourself; you shouldn’t. We all make mistakes, so we have to learn form them and move on. That said, I have to mention that so many women make this mistake. They overlook a man’s tendency or habit because they fall in love with him. Your ex is not an alpha; he’s just an asshole. Alpha is not self-destructive. Alpha is calculating.
Marrying the wrong man, is as devastating for a woman as marrying the wrong woman is for a man. Maybe even worse because men have much more autonomy to leave or do what they want. We women are more held down by traditions and notions of doing the right thing, not to mention children.
I’m saying this so that you are extra cautious this time around. I see you have a tendency to fall for troubled guys, so you really have to be careful about your choices.
It’s time to start a new chapter. No more troubled men.
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I’m not materialistic, but I do like feeling secure. *cue Scarlett with carrot against sunset background* I am actually very fortunate to come from a long line of hard workers and I’ve continued that tradition.
I don’t see any merit in discussing my ex. Those things have been analyzed and put to rest long ago, I hope. Troubled men, yes. I do have a heart for all. But I’ve had a heart for nice men too and been just as disappointed.
As for being cautious, the safest thing would be to just never get married again. For the right person I could trust, in theory, I absolutely would. But that seems doubtful.
I hear your comments and I appreciate your thoughts and concern, but I’m going to stop responding here simply because it upsets me without gaining any added insight. Got to stay cheery 🙂
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Yep! I understand your point about not rehashing the past. It doesn’t do much good. It’s over and done.
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Onwards and upwards! “Suffering has a noble purpose: the evolution of consiousness and the burning up of the ego” – Eckhart Tolle See, I’m LUCKY! 🙂
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“What is to give light must endure burning.” – Viktor E. Frankl
∞
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Oh, yeah. He seems to be an amalgam of a lot of others, but I’m enjoying A New Earth. Thanks for the quotes 🙂
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Tolle’s got some good thoughts, most of which he cribbed from others. But he’s a hippy-dippy transcendentalist-type.
Take what is of use and move on. Quickly.
“The best thing about the past is, it’s over.” – Richard Bandler
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Read Bandler instead. More useful.
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Thanks for the suggestion.
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“Marrying the wrong man, is as devastating for a woman as marrying the wrong woman is for a man. Maybe even worse because men have much more autonomy to leave or do what they want. We women are more held down by traditions and notions of doing the right thing, not to mention children.”
LOL at this nonsense by Lily. Men have so much more autonomy to leave that women are initiating divorce at a 4 to 1 rate. So much for “tradition” and “doing the right thing”.
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LOL! It’s not nonsense at all. You just refuse to see the other side of the spectrum and acting like a crybaby. Sorry, I won’t shed a tear.
A bad marriage to a woman is devastating, especially if she has children. All it costs him is money, but to her, it practically alters her entire life because it’s not that easy for a woman to remarry when she has kids. It’s hard enough for older women to get married, let alone with children.
How much of your money would you give to get 20,30, 40, 50 more years of life? You would pay lots, wouldn’t you? Think of it this way, most of the time a divorced woman with children is fucked, while a divorced man can re-start from scratch with a youngish woman. That’s why many women try to get as much money as they can from the ex-husband. The thing is why do these women even initiate a divorce? They often end much poorer despite the child support, not to mention man-less and sex-less. Most divorced women in their 40s are overweight and have children – who is going to look at them? It’s a terrible existence to know you’d never have a another cock inside you. That’s why many of these women are bitter bitches spreading feminism to get back at men’s freedom and autonomy. It’s a form of penis envy.
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You could basically swoop up 90% of the problems with attraction in this statement:
Men can’t use feminine traits to attract females…and females can’t use masculine traits to attract males.
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Yeah, but these days, people are confused about what those are. Self included sometimes. 😦
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Watch movies from the 1950s.
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Chicks dig me, because I rarely wear underwear and when I do it’s usually something unusual.
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That’s the fact, Jack.
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We’re not homosexuals, but we are willing to learn. Would they send us someplace nice?
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I’ve been swallowing a lot of aggression lately… along with a lot of pizzas, heh, heh!
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Army training, sir!
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Any of you homos touch me…
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Lighten up, Francis!
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That can be another #thankafeminist on the twit.
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Agreed. Women really do love the condescending attitude. My frame of mind is usually I’m the patriarch and shes the clueless little girl, and sometimes my frame is shes the retard and I’m the nurse trying to bang her haha kidding… maybe…
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Actually, women like a man who is in charge, and has his life going on.
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Yes, this is correct. But remember, you never go full retard.
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“That’s because elephants, rhinos, and angry Holsteins all snort before charging.”
And Cape buffalo. Can’t forget Cape buffalo.
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What kind of moron goes around texting snorts?
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Oh, I thought “snort” was a typo for “whore,” above. Sorry, my bad. Totally makes this whole commentary read differently.
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Well, Charlie Sheen goes around snorting coke of whores’ asses. Hot whores. (Maybe not quite the same thing, probably more fun.)
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Another failure of modern television. In the sitcoms, the wives are always the intelligent voices of reason who condescend to deal with their husbands’ manifold stupidities. Oft-times when beleaguered with a ridiculous idea by a Homer Simpson or a Peter Griffin, the wife will snort and chide them as a mother does a child.
Women somehow think this works in real life as well, and that they are all a great deal smarter and more in charge of their lives than they would like to believe.
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If the women in real life had figures like Marge Simpson, Lois Griffin, Julie Bowen, etc. maybe they would be slightly more tolerable.
Most of your wives who act like mothers to their husbands look like land whales.
The worst example of this I ever saw was that nurse in Scrubs. I used to like that show…but every scene she’s being a tyrant to her husband I want to backhand slap her.
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Best/worst example was Home Improvement. I like to think Tim Taylor was banging Heidi the whole time. That show was pitched as being a Larry Sanders type show with the hen-pecking wife and snotty kids having a minimal presence, but ABC wanted a show that was more family-oriented.
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I once read a post on here that was both funny and true on this topic. The poster stated that he used to write a blog that highlighted any instance of a television commercial wherein the male figure (and particularly the white male figure) in the commercial was portrayed as a dunce/dupe, but that he had to quit the blog because nearly every commercial fit his criteria.
This.
Canceling your television subscription is the bra burning of our generation. Fvck these Commies and the subscription service they road in on.
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Television is the opiate of the people.
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Here at Schloss Eliot, we just call it the One-Eyed-You-Know-Who. lloozozozozlzlzlzlzlzozozoll
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Do you really inundate your children with all your insane ravings on Jews? Can’t you just give them like 1/4 of your thoughts on the subject?
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Sorry your ox got gored, Schlomo.
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Ah, yes… the old Soviet model… any disparaging references to the ruling parasites = diagnosis of “insanity”.
I’m sure you and your ilk are fantasizing about keeping a room reservation open for guys like me at a future correction facility… but the handwriting on the wall going to be a bit different this time around, commissar.
Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin, mofo.
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Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin, mofo.
Ruh-Roh.
G.E. wit da Ol’ Testament throwdown on the Pharisee.
Throws popcorn in microwave…
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Despite your various assumptions, I’m neither Jewish (dad is italian, mom is irish) or interested in locking you up. I just find all of it very, very boring.
Greg, I do find it bizarre that you find “Jews” in everything. You appear to be obsessed with them since you constantly bring them up on this message board dedicated to helping dudes get laid. Isn’t that a little weird? Are you capable of being slightly objective and recognizing that you might just sound like a 9/11 truther combined with a moon landing denialist with a sprinkling of eichmann.
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I obviously know the answer to my question by virtue of the fact that white nationalist such as yourself are so delusional, you actually think you nerds have the power to change or stop anything. Grow up. I just feel sorry for kids because you’re the exact same as any other extremist ranting and raving about the spooks and shadows you see everywhere. Don’t be surprised if your children end up rebelling and doing precisely the opposite of what you’ve all too zealously attempted to drill into their brains.
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And furthermore, I have no fucking clue what any of that shit you typed at the end of your message means. I sorta understand what anon meant, but that went over my head to. You guys who hate Jews sure do know a lot about them and talk about them a lot. Ever see the movie the believer? I think there was a part in that movie where they said you should know your enemy better than they know their own selves. So maybe that’s your angle
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Your concern for my children is very touching. 🙄
I’ve never known it to fail… those who have no children always know what’s best for them.
For the record, fool, the ones not already graduated and out on their own are in their final years at university… and they’re all doing quite well.
Now go have some of your own… and be sure to teach them the high morality of your PUA philosophy. lllzozozozozozslzlzlzozozozlll
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Eh, I posted two other items before and after the one that now appears, but I think my use if the jword sent them to hell. In any event, you’re very dramatic, Greg. I don’t want to throw you in jail. Nor do I wish ill on you and your children. I don’t love my life that way. But, that’s kinda exactly my point: I wish you did the same. Live and let live, babe
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And, no, Greg. Love instead of live isn’t a Freudian slip. It is a typo.
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He said you’re “fantasizing about keeping a room reservation open for guys like me at a future correction facility,” because it’s what he would like to do to jooz and people he thinks are the enemy of whites, so he assumes those people would want to do the same to him. He is projecting his own intentions on you. Do you see now?
It’s so easy to understand his psyche just by reading between the lines. He thinks the communists/jooz are the enemy of whites (Führer speak, verbatim), hence he uses the word “commissar.” Then he curses you out in tongues. The man needs to be hospitalized. A mental facility might do him better than the correction facility.
What you told him is true. He is indeed very obsessed and it shows a troubled personality. I often expressed concern to the stuff he was teaching his children. There is no way an obsessed hater like him, hasn’t inculcated them with hatred.
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except lily that the joows really do say that the non jews can be lied to and murdered and it is ok for the jew to do
so that is pretty concrete shit there don’t ya think
nothing to really argue about is there or to defend about them
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its in the jooz bible that non jooz can be lied to and killed with impunity kind of hard to defend them ?
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espeially when in there defense you use a hypothetical thought process of a person that might be the same as the written down and factual thought process of the jooz
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what would your way lily of defending against someone who has stated that it is ok to kill you and killing you is in the same moral wrong as cutting your grass
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“its in the jooz bible that non jooz can be lied to and killed with impunity kind of hard to defend them ?”
Don’t be ridiculous, guns. You’re reading some NZ shit and getting brainwashed.
No place in the Bible do the jooz say it’s OK to kill none jooz. On the contrary, in the book of Genesis (the first book of the bible) it says man is created in the image of God. All man, not just joo man.
“So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.” Genesis 1:27
Why? Because a person who is cognizant that he/she is created in the image of God, can never be enslaved. Conversely, one who does not possess this knowledge can never be considered wholly free. The idea that no government or person can take the rights of another as only God is his true master, comes from this simple verse.
Our Constitution took that idea form the jooz and state:
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”
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Also, the Ten Commandments are the bedrock of civilization. They appear twice in the Joo Bible because God wanted to make sure they got the message. Here are the 5 that pertain to our fellow man.
13 ¶ Thou shalt not kill.
14 ¶ Thou shalt not commit adultery.
15 ¶ Thou shalt not steal.
16 ¶ Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
17 ¶ Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbor’s.
So much of our Constitution is based on the Jooz Bible. The Founding Fathers all spoke Hebrew and knew the Bible in its original language. They also studied much of the jooz commentary of their own Bible, which is why they refer to God as the Creator, just like the Jooz call him . You need to chill out with the jooz hatred. Our problems come from the left, and they are many Gentile lefties, not just Joo ones.
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http://rense.com/general86/talmd.htm
To communicate anything to a Goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all jooz, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly.
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i don’t need to get brainwashed to see truth
i don’t know any jooz well maybe cept for nyc prob seen some but yea never dealt with them or had problems but when i see other people who do have a problem with them it certainly seems understandable.
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you bring up genesis
i bring up the talmud
””The Talmud (Hebrew: תַּלְמוּד talmūd “instruction, learning”, from a root lmd “teach, study”) is a central text of Rabbinic Judaism, considered second to the Torah.”””
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Rabbinic Judaism – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbinic_Judaism
Rabbinic Judaism or Rabbinism (Hebrew: “Yahadut Rabanit” – יהדות רבנית) has been the mainstream form of Judaism since the 6th century CE, after the …
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Our Constitution took that idea form the jooz and state:
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”
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from what i can see no jooz involved in writing constitution either
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R. Hanina said: If a heathen smites a Jew, he is worthy of death; for it is written, And he looked this way and that way, and when he saw that there was no man, he slew the Egyptian. [Ex. 2:12] R. Hanina also said: He who smites an Israelite on the jaw, is as though he had thus assaulted the Divine Presence; for it is written, one who smiteth man [i.e. an Israelite] attacketh the Holy One.
Sanhedrin 58b
[In other words, if a non-Jew kills a Jew, the non-Jew can be killed. Punching an Israelite is akin to assaulting God. (But killing a non-Jew is NOT like assaulting God.]
If a goy killed a goy or a Jew he is responsible, but if a Jew killed a goy he is not responsible.
Tosefta, Aboda Zara, VIII, 5
Has it not been taught: “With respect to robbery — if one stole or robbed or [seized] a beautiful woman, or [committed] similar offences, if [these were perpetrated] by one Cuthean [“Cuthean” or “Samaritan” = goy/gentile/heathen/non-Jew] against another, [the theft, etc.] must not be kept, and likewise [the theft] of an Israelite by a Cuthean, but that of a Cuthean by an Israelite may be retained?” But if robbery is a capital offence, should not the Tanna have taught: He incurs a penalty? — Because the second clause wishes to state, “but that of a Cuthean by an Israelite may be retained,” therefore the former clause reads, “[theft of an Israelite by a Cuthean] must not be kept.” But where a penalty is incurred, it is explicitly stated, for the commencing clause teaches: “For murder, whether of a Cuthean by a Cuthean, or of an Israelite by a Cuthean, punishment is incurred; but of a Cuthean by an Israelite, there is no death penalty?”
Sanhedrin 57a
[Translation: A Jew may rob a Goy, but a Goy may not rob a Jew. If a Goy murders another Goy or a Jew, he should be killed, but a Jew will not be incur the death penalty for killing a non-Jew.]
Kill the Goyim by any means possible.
Choshen Ha’mishpat 425:50
Everyone who sheds the blood of the impious [non-Jews] is as acceptable to God as he who offers a sacrifice to God.
Yalkut 245c
Extermination of the Christians is a necessary sacrifice.
Zohar, Shemoth
Tob shebbe goyyim harog – Even the best of the Goyim (Gentiles) should be killed.
from the talmud link
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go to talmud site look up kill and you will see what i am talking about it won’t post
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Sorry, I meant the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution when I quoted the “all men are created equal” phrase.
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Anyway, So much of our principles in the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence are based on the Jooz’ Bible. The Founding Fathers all spoke Hebrew and knew the Bible in its original language. They also studied much of the jooz commentary of their own Bible (Talmud), which is why they refer to God as the Creator, just like the Jooz call him in the Talmud .
All the Ivy League schools were seminaries back then – Harvard, Yale, etc….they all taught Bible studies in Hebrew and it was mandatory to know Hebrew if you wanted to graduate. Back then, the Joo religion was very respected and revered, and the Founding Fathers used much of joo principles to write the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence
I’m sorry you don’t know history Guns, but all scholars of the Founding Fathers will tell you Founding Fathers rejected calling God Jesus, but took the Joo concept of God (the Creator) and used it in the documents of our nation.
BTW check out the Supreme Court – it has scenes depicting the Ten Commencements everywhere and Moses the lawgiver bringing down the tablets.
Of course, joo haters want to make it look like the joo religion is bad. If so, why is our nation steeped in joo religion from the day it was born?
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“i don’t know any jooz well maybe cept for nyc prob seen some but yea never dealt with them or had problems but when i see other people who do have a problem with them it certainly seems understandable.”
See you don’t know them, so you’re basing an opinion on your own prejudice. Gee, I wonder why everyone wants to live in the Joo’s neighborhood. How come nobody wants to live in the white trash neighborhoods, the Latino neighborhoods, or black neighborhoods? Is it because maybe they know they will not get robbed, killed, maimed, and the kids will not beat up their kids?
Gee, really, if the joo is so evil why do everyone want to live in their neighborhood? And, why everyone wants to go only to a joo doctor if the joo is so bad?
Really guns, you are highly prejudice against them and you don’t really know any of them. That’s smart.
We in the big cites know many jooz and interact with them. I rather deal with a joo than most blacks, Hispanics, white trash low class.
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See you don’t know them, so you’re basing an opinion on your own prejudice. ”””””’
no no
the jooz are prejudiced against non jooz lol
not an opinion just the facts as i see them in pixels black and white ink
you have not refuted shit but talked about people wanting to live in a joow neighborhood
when i saw them there were no other people but jooz so uhh would be hard for people to integrate into that i would think he he he
but really though it would be easy to exterminate them wth there own words maybe they should change some shit up and quit being so fucking evil on their books
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and who wants to live in a joow neghborhood or have a joow doctor
who even cares about the joows other than it seems people who are more educated than i that say they are causing what my neighborhood looks like where nobody would want to move
and then you read some joow literature and you see what they think of non joows so uhh yea
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at least admit the truth that the talmud is pretty fucked up if that is true or admit that you agree that it is ok to rob and steal from the non joow that the talmud is cool and the gang
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i wish i had something like the talmud to believe in since birth i could of left this plane of existance a while ago
but yea also agree on the killing non joos is fine
i may convert
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“you have not refuted shit but talked about people wanting to live in a joow neighborhood”
There are more posts that went to moderation. Wait for them to post and I will explain the Jeff Reins Talmud nonsense you posted.
“and then you read some joow literature and you see what they think of non joows so uhh yea”
It’s all taken out of context the joo literature you’re referring to. Some posts went to moderation.
“who even cares about the joows other than it seems people who are more educated than i that say they are causing what my neighborhood looks like where nobody would want to move”
That’s because those people want to incite hate for the joo, so they blame him for everything. If nobody wants to move into your neighborhood, then it’s your fault, not the joo. Take responsibility for your own shit and stop blaming others. Fix it up, get the drinking, the drugs, and the strip clubs out and maybe people with families would move in. Blaming the joo for everything is as old as 2,000 years. It’s nothing new. Losers and people with an ax to grind, often blamed the joo for all their ills. This site often talks about taking responsibility. How about taking responsibility for your own shit?
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Guns, chill out. Jooz don’t want to kill anyone. It’s fear mongers filling you with hate to incite violence. That’s the only reason they say this garbage and you’re their USEFUL IDIOT. Don’t let them control your mind.
They often take verses out of context and say the joo believes this or that. Taking things out of context is what all demagogues do. The left does it all the time, and so did the NZs and other totalitarian governmenets. Nothing new there. It’s an old tactic. Don’t fall for it.
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http://thestateofamerica.wordpress.com/2008/01/29/jewish-roots-of-the-american-constitution/
“Jewish Roots of the American Constitution”
Although many of the framers of the American Constitution were not devout [Jews], their political mentality was shaped in universities whose curriculum was based very much on Jewish ideas. Accordingly, this essay will be divided into two parts. The first part will show how Judaism, in particular the Five Books of Moses, influenced higher education in 17th and 18th century America. The second part will examine the institutions prescribed in the American Constitution and show their roots in Jewish laws and principles.
A. Historical Background[1]
1. No nation has been more profoundly influenced by the “Old Testament” than America. Many of America’s early statesmen and educators were schooled in Hebraic civilization. The second president of the United States, John Adams, a Harvard graduate, had this to say of the Jewish people:
The Jews have done more to civilize men than any other nation…. They are the most glorious Nation that ever inhabited the earth. The Romans and their Empire were but a bauble in comparison to the Jews. They have given religion to three-quarters of the Globe and have influenced the affairs of Mankind more, and more happily than any other Nation, ancient or modern.[2]
2. The curriculum at Harvard, like those of other early American colleges and universities, was designed by learned and liberal men of “Old Testament” persuasion. Harvard president Increase Mather (1685-1701) was an ardent Hebraist (as were his predecessors, Henry Dunster and Charles Chauncey). Mather’s writings contain numerous quotations from the Talmud as well as from the works of Saadia Gaon, Rashi, Maimonides and other classic Jewish commentators.
3. Yale University president Ezra Stiles readily discoursed with visiting rabbinical authorities on the Mishna and Talmud. At his first public commencement at Yale (1781), Stiles delivered an oration on Hebrew literature written originally in Hebrew. Hebrew and the study of Hebraic laws and institutions were an integral part of Yale’s as well as of Harvard’s curriculum.
4. Much the same may be said of King’s College (later Columbia University), William and Mary, Rutgers, Princeton, Dartmouth, and Brown University. Hebrew learning was then deemed a basic element of liberal education. Samuel Johnson, first president of King’s College (1754-1763), expressed the intellectual attitude of his age when he referred to Hebrew as “essential to a gentleman’s education.”
5. This attitude was not merely academic. On May 31, 1775, almost on the eve of the American Revolution, Harvard president Samuel Langdon, addressing the Congress of Massachusetts Bay, declared: “Every nation, when able and agreed, has a right to set up over itself any form of government which to it may appear most conducive to its common welfare. The civil polity of Israel is doubtless an excellent general model” (emphasis added).
6. The Higher Law doctrine of the Declaration of Independence is rooted in the Torah, which proclaims “The Laws of Nature and Nature’s God,” and appeals to the “Supreme Judge” and “Providence.” Even though Jefferson, the principal author of the Declaration, was no admirer of the Hebrew Bible, he nonetheless framed the Declaration with a view to galvanizing a bible-reading public in support of the American Revolution.
7. During the colonial and constitution-making period, the Americans, especially the Puritans, adopted and adapted various Hebraic laws for their own governance. The legislation of New Haven, for example, was based on the premise that “the judicial laws of God, as they were delivered by Moses, and as they are a fence to the moral law, being neither … ceremonial, nor ha[ving] any reference to Canaan, shall … generally bind all offenders, till they be branched out into particulars hereafter.” Thirty-eight of seventy-nine statutes in the New Haven Code of 1665 derived their authority from the Hebrew Bible. The laws of Massachusetts were based on the same premise.
8. The fifteen Capital Laws of New England included the “Seven Noahide Laws” of the Torah, or what may be termed the seven universal laws of morality. Six prohibit idolatry, blasphemy, murder, robbery, adultery, and eating flesh from a living animal, while the seventh requires the establishment of courts of justice. Such courts are obviously essential to any society based on the primacy of reason or persuasion rather than passion or intimidation.
9. The seven universal laws of morality (together with their particular branches) comprised a “genial orthodoxy.” This genial orthodoxy transcends whatever social or economic distinctions exist among men: it holds all men equal before the law. By so doing it places constraints on governors and governors alike and thereby habituated Americans to the rule of law. As a further consequence, this ancient Hebraic orthodoxy dissolved or subordinated many ethnic differences among immigrants in the new world. It moderated the demands of various groups, helped coordinate their diverse interests and talents, and thereby contributed to America’s growth and prosperity.
10. Now, without minimizing the influence of such philosophers as Locke and Montesquieu on the framers of the American Constitution, I believe America may rightly be deemed the first and only nation that was explicitly founded on the Seven Noahide Laws of the Torah. Indeed, the legislation of the several states comprising the Federal Union embodied these laws—including the prohibitions against blasphemy and adultery—well into the nineteenth century. It should also be noted that the constitutions of eleven of the original thirteen states made provision for religious education. Some even had religious qualifications for office.
11. Strange as it may seem, the Seven Noahide Laws were recently and explicitly incorporated in Public Law 102-14, which established March 26, 1991 as “Education Day”! What presumably saves this Congressional joint resolution from violating the First Amendment is its silence about the Hebraic origin of the Noahide code. Here I must digress for a moment and say a word about the First Amendment.
12. The First Amendment states that, “Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion …” This clause is now misunderstood. It was intended not to prevent Congress from enacting laws supportive of religion, but to prohibit Congress from establishing a state or national religion. In his “Farewell Address,” George Washington declared:
Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, Religion and morality are indispensable supports…. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that National morality can prevail in the exclusion of religious principle.
Incidentally, the theme of Washington’s Farewell Address is national unity. National unity, he believed, requires national morality, a precondition of which is religion. Religion and morality counter man’s natural inclination to self-indulgence and his tendency to be preoccupied with the immediate gratification of his own desires. Religion and morality foster self-restraint and consideration of others. Far more than secular humanism, religion inspires men with reverence, with deference to wisdom, with concern for posterity. But these ideas are Jewish ideas, rooted in the Seven Noahide Laws.
B. The Institutions Prescribed by the American Constitution
1. The House of Representatives represents 435 districts of the United States, where the people of each district elect one person to represent their views and interests. The idea of district elections is implicit in the Torah. “Select for yourselves men who are wise, understanding, and known to your tribes and I will appoint them as your leaders” (Deut. 1:13). The word “election” obviously comes from the word “elect,” and the “elect” means men of high intellectual and moral character.
a. Exodus 18:19 states: “… seek out from among all the people men with leadership ability, God-fearing men–men of truth who hate injustice.” Similar qualifications are prescribed in the original constitutions Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, and Rhode Island. This is what the word “election” means. It is not a democratic but an aristocratic term!
b. So, each tribe must select the best men to be their representatives. Rabbi Samson Raphael Hirsch comments that “each tribe (shevet) is to choose out of its own midst men whose character can only be known by their lives [hence whose character] is known only to those who have associated with them.” This is the biblical source of residential requirements for Representatives and Senators in the United States. Also, what is here called a shevet was called a district after the Second Temple.[3]
c. Moreover, the idea of district elections conforms to the Jewish law
of “agency” (Kiddushin 59a). This law synthesizes the “delegate” and “trustee” concept of representation prevalent in the non-Jewish democratic world. Whereas the delegate concept binds a representative to the instructions of his constituents, the trustee concept allows him to judge whether adherence to these instructions, when additional knowledge or new circumstances intervene, will harm his constituents’ immediate and/or long-term interests.
d. Finally, it is a principle of Jewish law that “No legislation should be imposed on the public unless the majority can conform to it” (Avoda Zara 36a). This obviously requires legislators to consider or consult the opinions of their constituents. Hence representative democracy can be readily assimilated to Judaism simply by adding that representatives must be “men who are wise, and understanding.” This would make for a “high-toned” or aristocratic democracy, or a universal aristocracy. (Bear in mind that Israel is supposed to be a “Nation of Kohanim,” meaning a nation of noblemen.)
2. The Senate. The Senate represents the 50 states of the Federal Union; it therefore represents the Federal principle. But the idea of federalism goes back to the Torah and the twelve tribes. Each tribe had its own distinct identity, its own governor and its own judicial system.
3. The Presidency. Unlike Israel, which has a Plural Executive or Cabinet consisting of a prime minister and other ministers representing different political parties in the Knesset, the United States has a Unitary Executive, namely, the President. Of course the President has a Cabinet, but its members cannot hold any other office and they are wholly responsible to the President, not to any political party.
a. Now it so happens that a Unitary Executive is a Torah principle! Thus, when Moses told Joshua to consult the elders when he was about to lead the Jews across the Jordan, God countermanded Moses: there can only be one leader in a generation. And if you look at tractate Sanhedrin 8a, you will see that Jewish law opposes collective leadership. Nor is this all.
b. Just as a President of the United States must be a native-born American and not a naturalized citizen, so a king of Israel must be born of a Jewish mother and not a ger or convert.
4. The Supreme Court. Just as the American Supreme Court is the final interpreter of the American Constitution, so the Great Sanhedrin is the final interpreter of the Jewish Constitution, the Torah.
So we see that the original American Constitution was very much rooted in Torah Judaism.
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how can i take responsibility the government thought there weren’t enough blacks in my town a while back and moved em in
i’ll take responsibility to leave i guess
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This is a symptom of the left. It tries to equalize everything. It’s not Jooz conspiring against neighborhoods. It’s a zealous government conducting social engendering. Citizens have to stand up.
However, many don’t stand up, they just move and leave those neighborhoods to the black hoodlums. Property goes down in value and becomes a slum, while white people go to nicer areas where they don’t have to put up with the black gangsters.
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Sorry, I meant social engineering.
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Greg, I do find it bizarre that you find “Jews” in everything. You appear to be obsessed with them since you constantly bring them up on this message board dedicated to helping dudes get laid. Isn’t that a little weird?
What’s weird is that I’m accused of being “obsessed” merely for mentioning how ‘convenient’ it seems that whenever one of the “pretty lies” issues arises here at the chateau, there is invariably a kosher barbeque party list of names to be found at the root of, and taking the lead in, propagation of said lies.
Or are you saying (in the case of my original statement on this particular thread) that the YKW’s don’t dominate TV and movie writing, production, distribution, programming, etc.?
Now denying THAT would be weird. But don’t take my word for it, just read the credits.
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“Or are you saying (in the case of my original statement on this particular thread) that the YKW’s don’t dominate TV and movie writing, production, distribution, programming, etc.?
Now denying THAT would be weird. But don’t take my word for it, just read the credits.”
So what? Let’s say you’re right, why is that something to lose sleep over and get all obsessed about? Did they promise you a job and reneged on your as?
Entertainment is one of the industries they flock to, just as Irish women flock to nursing (before hospitals started to import all the Indians and Pakistanis).
Some industries are going to have more representations by one group, especially if that group is one of those who started that industry. Nothing surprising there. But why are you overlooking all the non-jooz in the industry, from directors to actors to behind the scenes people? I think you’re so obsessed with the jooz, you probably don’t even notice the non-jooz names. That’s how obsessed you are.
You know ,Uncle Adolf used to bitch about the jooz running Entertainment. He used to have the same grievances as you, and he used those grievances to start a world war and genocide.
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Da.
I seem to have sparked another “YKW” discussion, which is de riguer on this site these days. Zzzzzz.
I used to work in television, and the problem is not the Jooz. The problem is the Leftists. Sure, there is a lot of overlap there in the US, but I used to work in television outside the US, and the problem was the same (in some ways worse), and the Joo count was nonexistent/very low.
It is an industry run by the Enemies of Reason and Agency.
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There are forces in this country like Jeff Rense and his ilk who are trying to substitute the joo for the liberal, just like the Führer substituted joo for his enemies the communists. So in effect, for some people like Greg Eliot the enemy is the joo, not the lefties who come in all shapes and colors and from all backgrounds, including white Gentiles.
This is a very dangerous trend because it’s not going after the culprits, it’s focusing on the jooz instead. It’s really meant to incite various joo haters to take action against the joo and turn this country into another NZ Germany. There is no other reason to substitute joo for liberals and lefties, other than to demonize them and incite violence against them when the time comes and the “revolution” is here, as Eliot calls it.
Was NZ Germany successful? That’s how this country will end too. Except, this time it will be much worse.
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“The victor will never be asked if he told the truth.” – Adolf Hitler
“When an opponent declares, ‘I will not come over to your side,’ I calmly say, ‘Your child belongs to us already… What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community.'” – Adolf Hitler
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And just to show that Lefties think the same whether they wear the “Fascist” label or the “Communist” label, here is Uncle Vladimir, agreeing with Uncle Adolf.
“Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted.” – Vladimir Lenin
So sit your children down in front of the television, so they can grow up to become part of The Combine.
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Yep, the fascists distract us with joo hatred, and the Marxists distract us with pop culture so we overlook the real culprit. Two sides of the same coin. While the destroyers of western civ dance in glee because they have armies of useful idiots doing their dirty work.
Uncle Adolf and Uncle Vladimir, indeed!
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yea gonna be hard to hide if its all asian for any of us
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I just have to ask, what is the reference in your name? The Brothers Karamazov is my favourite novel.
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It’s based on the idea that the Karamazovs, whether it was Ivan, Dmitri, Alyosha, or the old man, acted on instinct and pursued their desires without hesitation or rest.
my original explanation is here.
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/01/25/fat-kills-marriages-dead/#comment-406431
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Does this really need to be said? Yes. Male behaviors, like burps and snorts are not attractive when used by females. Because it reminds dudes of dudes and only gay dudes wanna bang other dudes.
The same way being a cute little airhead is a female behavior. I’m fairly intelligent (I think?), but I use stupid, airhead language sometimes and my husband thinks it’s cute. If I ever got a “totes amaze, lol” text from my husband I think my vagina would recede into my cervix.
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I like “snerk,” myself. If I’m going to do it at all, that is. Most of the time, if I can’t express it with text, I don’t bother.
And while we’re on the subject, what’s up with guys who e-mail or text emoticons? I think that’s so lame and feminized. It even kind of bothers me when women do it. Use your words, people!
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And while we’re on the subject, what’s up with guys who e-mail or text emoticons? I think that’s so lame and feminized. It even kind of bothers me when women do it. Use your words, people!
Because they’re beta manboobs.
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Or it’s an intentional DHV…
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If so, it’s an epic fail, unless the man is alpha enough to compensate. Like being alpha enough to wear pink shirts.
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Just because you ARE alpha enough to wear a pink shirt does not mean that you SHOULD. That said, emoticon responses to long text messages make women nuts… especially when it’s this. 😐 or this. O.o
They have no idea what to make of it.
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I was thinking of dumb shit like : ), or, even worse, = ) and ( : .
Yes, your emoticons would serve a purpose of keeping her on her toes.
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🙂
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@RappaccinisDaughter. I regularly use emoticons, write the word “lol,” and use other similar expressions to showcase my wittiness and good humor whilst texting. As best as I can tell, it doesn’t “hurt” me because it doesn’t define me.
I suppose this is very repetitive of a point CH made the other day, but, the truth is you can do WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU WANT IN THIS WORLD so long as you set the proper frame. this isn’t just with chicks. you can become the master of the fucking universe with enough gumption and balls. sure, sometimes people will call you out on it, but who gives a fuck? ignore those people and keep doing what you’re doing. most people (especially chicks) will get in line behind a leader regardless of whether or not he makes a winky face in a text message.
THERE ARE NO RULES. YOU ARE THE RULE.
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Also, RappaccinisDaughter, the fact that a woman tells me not to do something (like you suggesting that men should not use emoticons) just makes me want to do it that much more.
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Knock yourself out, yeahokcool. It’s just a pet peeve of mine. For me, it’s the written equivalent of seeing a great big hulking dude walking a Chihuahua.
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lol. funny you should mention that… my best friend is a hulking dude who used to be a mercenary. he has a tiny yorkie that he regularly walks around town. i think his notch count is at over 350. you say you may not be down with that, but the numbers don’t lie.
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to the slow-witted, my points are the following:
IV. Don’t play by her rules
XI. Be irrationally self-confident
XIII. Err on the side of too much boldness, rather than too little
XV. Maintain your state control
Any, most importantly, “don’t listen to what women say, watch what they do.”
Lols and small dogs have nothing to do with anything.
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“Use your words, people!”
LOL- but, at the same time, know when to STOP talking and start kissing!
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Talking –while– fucking can be an unusually thrilling combination, although one is often led (by the female’s increasingly ragged moans) to talk about things which are very not nice.
And this kind of thing is never better than with a “nice” girl like our Katie. 😉
And smart girls have the sweetest pockets of unnice imaginable…
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How very unnice to know!
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You’re up too early to be a real bad girl, alas. 😉
But I know there’s more than banter in that brain.
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@Kate,
Can’t reply below so I’ll answer here.
A man’s “equipment” is what Freud supposed a woman to envy — but I doubt she envies it because it never lies, a most unfeminine state of affairs. My point is that you know, and usually very quickly, whether or not a man wants you as more than a friend.
Let me make a few ultimately relevant observations. There have been two women who’ve posted here that I’ve liked *as women*, feminine women, and you’re one of them. It’s very attractive when a woman is intelligent without being a *bluestocking* — and very often such women have another fascinating feature, which is tricky all around: they are sexually submissive. I get a strong sense that you’re submissive in this way, and maybe a bit uncomfortable with that. This is also attractive.
Your problem, if I may be so bold and I may, is that you are too interested in interesting men. Such men require an intelligent woman to flatter their vanity and they will toy with one who is bright, feminine, and submissive. That is, they want her and they don’t. A woman who can be led by words is in the end too easy for a man who slings same; and I feel you are the kind of girl who would make easy prey for a “writer” passing through your small town. None of this is meant to insult you; in fact it’s all informative praise, so please take it as such.
In short you need to abandon your interest in interesting men and throw in your lot with one of those dreaded “betas” who is too “excited,” texts too “goofily,” and, all in all, makes his intentions known too clearly and too soon. It’s with one of these stolid and solid characters that you’ll find a more lasting happiness.
Dull truths from an interesting man. How dreadful to a woman. 😉
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Thank you for your response. And for your compliments. I don’t disagree with you on anything you wrote. About two years ago I met a guy like you described that I turned down. He introduced me to his parents on our third date. The guy I had dinner with last night is the same sort. The fact that they have the same name is a coincidence that hasn’t been lost on me. Giving up on interesting men is actually more difficult than it sounds. I have much thinking to do.
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Kate seems to get it from all ends around here. Avoid alphas, avoid betas…be celibate for 15 years. What exactly are we promoting here?
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LOL They want me to settle down. I’m just afraid. I don’t want to choose the wrong person and end up trapped and miserable. I obviously cannot be trusted to pick the right person for myself.
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(excuse the repeat if the old post shows up)
They just want me to settle down, but I’m afraid of making the wrong choice and ending up trapped and miserable. This is how freedom can work against you. Most people wouldn’t go back in a cage once they’d been released.
Sat’s date was inadvertetly putting a lot of pressure on me and I told him so yesterday. He listened and we may go out again and we’ll see how it goes. Sun’s date was nice, but I couldn’t definitively say whether or not I’d want to see him again. I know enough about how attraction works to know I don’t need to like someone or be attracted to them right away to be attracted to them later.
In other news, Mr. Lying LiarPants must be eating his vegetables because he’s been growing again and is now a healthy male of 45. I’ll be curious to see if he has any additional growth spurts. Before I noticed that, I had an impulse to send him a picture from my morning hike and found out I’m no longer blocked. All in all, I’ll probably be taking a break from the dating world as my subscription is ending in a few days. I’ve met six people and had eight dates in about two months. The one I liked the most was the *only* one who kissed me. As the experts say: kiss early and often. Its the only thing that makes one different from some guy who’d make a nice friend.
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one kiss really
and where is the dress?
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The white jeans have become Sunday morning wear. Don’t worry. I’m wearing a dress now. More than one kiss, but only one person who kissed me out of six. He really seemed to enjoy it. Kissed me three different times on our first date! But, apparently, a twenty year age difference isn’t enough for him. Humph.
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If an older guy can’t figure out how to kiss on the first date…
The best advice I can give based on substantial experience is that it’s mostly about personality. If you want to settle down, go here and figure out what type you are:
http://www.socionics.com/ (ignore the crappy pseudo-Russian site)
Then look for your dual:
http://www.socionics.com/rel/dlt.htm
It’s described as anywhere from nice to the best thing to ever happen to people, and he will feel the same too as long as you are compatible in other ways. If he’s alpha, he likely won’t leave a good thing. Priceless advice, thank me later.
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Interesting! Thank you! You make it sound so easy 🙂
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Kate, how do you not enough age difference is the reason you didn’t hear from him?
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Because if a man lowers his age on his profile he is obviously trying to get someone younger. Of course, there are many other reasons he could have chosen from.
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And he did that? how do you know? I’m confused.
Do you think the man is 54, but lowered his age so you’ll go out with him? or, did he tell you once you met of his real age?
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His profile said 45 when he wrote to me on the dating site where we met. After he announced he felt like we should be friends, I noticed he changed his age to 43 and then, more recently, to 40. I called him out on that and instead of responding, he blocked my phone number. Because I had a bad experience with an online liar before, I looked him up online via his phone number to make sure he wasn’t married masquerading as a single person. He isn’t, but it clearly showed his age is 54. Since that time, he has changed it to 44 and then 45 again. Never a dull dating moment.
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so the dress is on hmmm
wierd noone wants smexytime just a friend
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Wierd. You can say that again! Especially after all the smooching. What a tease.
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LOL! from 54 to 40? Some nerve. Who needs his lying ass!
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I do. Because, in my mind, someone who can trick me is smarter than I am. This is probably not the correct approach…:)
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“Because, in my mind, someone who can trick me is smarter than I am.”
Anyone can pull a trick like this. It doesn’t show evidence of intelligence. He might be smart, but you can judge form this trick alone.
Anyway, he’s a liar. He has a tendency to lie. Do you see how he might not be good for you? In addition, he thinks he has a chance of passing for a 40-year old when he is 54. That shows a delusional tendency.
You probably think he’s an alpha-type of a guy, which he probably is, but he also comes with a slew of trouble.
I know you said you don’t want marriage. If that is the case, then he’d be right for some playtime if you won’t fall for him in the end and get hurt. I don’t think girls can have just sex, like men do. But, then he blocked you, right?
🙂 Someone is doing you a favor.
LOL! Where is Matt King? You need him to knock some sense in you.
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You forget that a key tactical advantage in all cases can be had by having the element of surprise. This doesn’t make the person, prima facie, smarter than you. Only maybe more tactical in his thinking, and/or more devious. If he employs lying as a tactic to advance his cause, well then, you know what you need to know about his cause, and about the man himself.
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@Lily: Of course I can see how he might not be good for me Why do you think I like him? The trick shows a certain irreverance, I guess. Intelligence comes from other assessments too. He’s very knowledgeable about a variety of things. I should have cottoned on when he mentioned something about the Eisenhower administration…
Well, I don’t know if its delusional thinking since he appears to pull this kind of thing off. Reading glasses and complaining about how loud movie theaters are just sounded like someone up my alley. I did tease him about being an old man regarding the movie noise and he said, “I am an old man.” D’oh! When we talked about age he remembered mine and I said, and you’re 43, right. His response was “something like that.”
He unblocked me.
King is away for Lent. I’m a full-time job and a lifetime committment. He deserves a little break.
@ Anonymous: Alright.
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@Kate
Hahaha……..Matt King is giving up pussy for 40 days and 40 nights?
He’ll be a rabid dog when it’s all over.
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I don’t know if that’s the case, but, if so, I’ve got 35 days to transform myself into a piece of steak!
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Also, when white blonde bartender bar stars/sluts like my gf (she’s 20 so there’s still time) get all down n’ ghetto/lower their voices/act black when any shitty new rap tune/niki manaj track farts out the P.A.
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Kate is usually feminine. This was just a slip up.
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Then why is my phone exploding with texts about our date tomorrow? The slip up may have been agreeing to go out with him.
If my comments are going to be used in a post, I simply DEMAND (see what a shrew I am!) that my responses be removed from moderation.
nb: I’m touched that people even know who I am much less care 🙂 I am in full agreement that women should be feminine, but there are some times when I simply cannot deal with the absurdity of a picture text of a “special needs” snowman.
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No, it was me pushed past my patience with silly texts.
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Not a vice, in my opinion.
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You know, it seems like there is no middle ground between hooking a marlin and fish just jumping right in the boat.
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If you want a Marlin, go for a Marlin, no? Selectivity saves both sides time.
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I try, but then I’m the one who ends up jumping in the boat. The whole thing is like that carnival horse race game where you roll the balls up a slope into a set of holes that moves the horse down the track. A few changes in what is rolled makes a difference in who wins. Just when I think one guy is in the lead, he stalls or takes himself out of the race. Then someone I thought was out will start moving again. Its reached a point where I’m finally getting better at just letting things happen as they will. Who is going to win in the end, I have no idea.
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nobody wins got to enojoy it while it happens the best you can
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if i was trying to win the bitch i have been hanging with the last 6 months i would be insane i have been trying to enjoy her and change her yea ok win but i win every day with memories or whatever
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Playing with horse balls doesn’t sound productive. Focus only on being the best you can be so you’re ready for him.
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@Kate,
No man ever takes himself out of that particular race unless he was never really in the running.
Women as well as men need to look to deeds not words.
A man’s equipment is never uncertain. You can bet on that.
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I’m not cracking your code here, n/a. What do you mean by equipment? As far as deeds, they too are misleading. For instance, say a man drove an hour and a half- twice- through snowstorms to see me. Wouldn’t you think that person had more than an intention to be friends? Or imagine a herculean effort in time, travel, and expense. Still ultimately meaning nothing. Not even deeds are valid sources of people’s intentions/motivations, etc. I’m beginning to see gregi’s point: there is no outcome, there is no end goal, there’s just a series of events to be enjoyed for what they are without any expectation that any of it means anything.
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Off-topic: http://i.imgur.com/K4YzyBh.jpg
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That’s about the size of things… 😦
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It’s no surprise then that the most beautiful women seem to employ sarcasm and snarkiness in the least measure. Beautiful women have the least need to use masculine values to “raise” their SMV (in their own minds only.) Whereas the most snarky women seem to be in that 5-6-7 range.
Dating women in the upper end of that range requires that a man use as much snark as necessary to parry her masculinized wit, but no more than that, as it’s too easy to encourage a lot of these women to be ever more sarcastic, which gets old quick. Better to simply avoid women who are snarky & sarcastic, though that’s a challenge in some anglosphere locales.
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Basically all ‘dating issues’ come from women in the 5-7ish range (flakiness, cock carouseling, manipulation, “pussy power”, etc.). It’s really not worth it to date below an 8
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Exactly. The majority of “dating issues” come from women who are 5-7ish (flakiness, cock carouseling, herd mentality, manipulation, “pussy power”, etc.). Thanks to third wave feminism (ironically) it’s just not worth it to date a girl below an 8 – you are literally getting the shit end of the stick
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On a related topic, noticed another trend since the I-phone revolution, the emoticon. Not the smiley faces, etc all the symbols (thank you Japanese schoolgirls) you can send. I noticed sometimes they have replaced the “K” or “lol” when a girl goes into the “we are done for the day mode” when your game leaks.
Got me thinking, as it is often said around here, using a girl’s tool (heh) against them is often the best weapon. So I started aloof game with just responding with a single emoticon, pictures of steak, a chicken bone, hell there is even a smiling pile of shit that is on the iphone. Hit a girl with a few of these in response and they suddenly break out of “entertain me” mode and back into chase mode.
Box office gold.
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“So I started aloof game with just responding with a single emoticon, pictures of steak, a chicken bone, hell there is even a smiling pile of shit that is on the iphone.”
lol- just no fetal pigs mid-dissection. I got one of those last night. No, I’m not kidding.
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I need to find this emoticon.
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had my gfs best guyfriend throw a pic of the 2 of them in a ‘couple pose’ on fb with the headline “girlfriend.”
this was posted jan 28 – she didn’t ‘like’ the photo probably fearing it’d get onto my fb page. her guyfriend and I do not get along. She’s hesitated having us meet eachother. He’s the guy that phones/texts her constantly. the guy is a drug dealer, works at walmart, is 19, a smooth talker, and a dickbag. thoughts?
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he’s probably banging her, especially if they’re taking “couple pose pics” together and she’s keeping the two of you apart. just my initial impression without any other details. trying to shoot it straight for you.
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There was an instance a while back where I came across a text of his where he’s wanting her to come over and fuck his buddy “it’ll b the best fuck of ur life”.
So I said if i see something like that again I’ll beat his ass and you & I will have issues. she kind of agreed and said he was drunk. I’ll be seeing this muff tmrw night at the club I bounce at – not sure what I’ll do with him there, or just leave it be.
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Wax, what does this information tell you. I think you’ve already figured it out.
I would summarily dump that girl, as nonchalantly as poss.
“You are leaving now, because you are a whore, and not the good kind. Bye.”
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if she isn’t already fucking him, she will fuck him. if a girl isn’t attracted to a guy she won’t tolerate that kind of text from him. next her calmly & rationally. tell her your disappointed in her because you thought she was a good person. rid your life of this ho & carry on with your mission.
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Are you fucking blind?
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Cuckold.
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Definitely.
What I want to know is where all these pathetic cuckold fetishists came from. I’d never even heard of the fetish ten years ago, but nowadays there are cuckold freaks pretending they want advice all over the net. I even had an old friend tell me I could fuck his wife if I wanted provided he could watch.
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I’ve wondered that too. My theory is that it’s an ego-saving device, similar to the way guys with chubby girlfriends rationalize their limited sexual choice by convincing themselves they’re into “curvy” chicks. Perhaps these betas can’t sexually satisfy their women, and instead of risking having her cheat and/or leave him, their egos create a false belief to spare their owners the pain of admitting the truth.
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It comes from the Eskimoes.
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I think they’re called liberals… their wives are usually Feminists.
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I think it came with the rise of internet pornography, most males are used to jerking off in the “spectator” view and not in the “participator” view.
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Speaking of cuckoldry, check out the parents:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2280140/Jonah-Bennett-Mom-scared-death-Joe-Rickey-Hundley-slapped-crying-toddler.html
One of these things is not like the other…
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Female mimicry of male attributes is nothing more than penis envy with a nice cargo-cult finish.
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I think most American women are masculine in all the wrong ways. I mean, they’re boyish enough to belch and sneer. But they’ll still get a “headache” every time you plan a camping trip or day at the races like traditional women do…
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just curious.. .does anyone have an example of feminine texting ? Or is it just not sounding stuck up or masculine.
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Just text him a lot, about nothing important, and sprinkle it with lol.
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Yesterday in the AM: “The first thing you notice about me when you see me this morning is your second gift…..” (we currently work near each other)
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A snort or any non-feminine behavior has to be taken in context. Personally, I love a little defiance that ends in the conquest of rough sex. Demure femininity has a place, but not 100% of the time. A “snort” applied at the right time and infrequently might result in a chase around the room and a good hard spanking/fucking.
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*purr*
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She’s learning….
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I like your style!
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I don’t blame women for being a bit aggressive to men who text them. Your typical 7+ gets deluged with text messages from beta males. Texting, being low-risk, is popular with betas. She’ll welcome their never ending barrage of missives when she wants attention or needs to pass time at work.
But when she’s under stress, having her period, et cetera she’s completely repulsed by the constant fawning texts and often lashes out at the senders. A pile of shit doesn’t feel popular because it’s surrounded by flies.
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These texts are going to ruin this guy’s initial good impression, just like the gifts ruined the last guy’s 😦 And I haven’t even met him yet!
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I would just try to ignore most of his texts, maybe tell him you’re too busy to text at work/home but you’d like to get coffee at such-and-such a time.
Nowadays I always immediately try to push a text convo towards a real-world meetup and just ignore anyone who is just try to kill time.
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Yes, that’s good advice. And I’m sure you know that a woman just prefers to have a guy say meet me at such and such a place at such and such a time instead of being asked a series of questions about what she would like to do. If a guy falls apart trying to plan a date, that’s not a good sign, to me. I’m already at a state where I want to just bail, but I gave my word, so, if he actually comes up with a concrete plan, I will meet him this evening as planned.
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Damn, sounds like a loser to me.
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He is just over-excited. Even someone who is great can overdo it with texting, etc. I try to have patience with it because I’ve certainly been that person before…a few times, actually.
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Better than the snort is the “grrrr” often found in a Gawker rant.
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The hamster is strong: http://healthland.time.com/2013/01/30/why-husbands-who-share-household-chores-miss-out-on-sex/?iid=hl-main-belt
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The comments make me shudder. Those cunty, self righteous women who pride themselves on treating their husband like a pet. One of those clams wrote “Foreplay begins with vacuuming”. Whoever said women are romantic.
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Haha…. “Foreplay begins with vacuuming”. I couldn’t stop laughing at the inanity of that one.
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We do household chores together here at Mr. and Mrs. Eliot’s where-the-heart-is.
Foreplay begins when I mop the floor with her.
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Bring da moviez, woman!
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If by vacuuming, she means using her lips to make a nice vacuum around my cock, then, well I can endorse that sort of thing.
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I do not have every masculine personality trait, but I have several, some of which are quite prominent. Some of them are even glaringly peculiar in a woman.
I’d be interesting in knowing if I would be somehow more attractive to men without my masculine traits. I suspect not, but I could be wrong.
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Which masculine traits?
Last time I met a girl who defined herself as tomboyish she started calling me her teddy bear after a few dates (vom) and her master after a few more. What I’m trying to say here is I don’t understand a word you’re saying and neither do you.
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Specifics or STFU.
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To be more attractive to men, you got to leave your sugardaddy first, hun.
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Eh,who’s this? I aint never heard of you before.Feministx?? I think I’ll pass,feministx,lol:)
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Feministx is a kind of scary person who used to post nudie pics here and left for awhile, but is now back among us! 🙂
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I think I saw this article on the CH Twitter feed:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/suzanne-miller/what-would-you-risk-for-the-best-sex-of-your-life_b_2657013.html
Hilarious first line, letting you know immediately that will not be taking responsibility for her actions. Best part is how much more she cared about and pines after the alpha in the story than for the beta hubs that died of cancer. Real life shit right there.
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Sophie’s Choice: some people need to lie and some people need to believe.
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Thinking with her crotch…
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Holy shit! — what an impeccable, instructive performance of female sleaze! Damn!
Oh ye betas, closely observe. This f’ing pig buries her tragically dead husband, and, forget *wicked speed* — she travels faster than a confused Italian neutrino to get on her aging knees, and hands and knees, for some bottom-feeding player.with no scruples about aiding and abetting utter trash.
This pig has children, presumably with a living memory of their father, and she preens *in public* that she has “forgiven” herself for no longer being able to suck his dirty cock straight from her asshole.
A fine specimen of American motherhood! LOL!
Oh ye betas, be harrowed. Read that text and then read it again. If pornography is the writing of harlots, I now know it when I see it!
Imagine if she has a son — imagine that poor creature’s face, reading this spectacularly cruel and vulgar text, courtesy of his “mother.”
Dang.–
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she has “forgiven” herself for no longer being able to suck his dirty cock straight from her asshole. ””””’
only done that with two chicks only because i loved em
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goes to show get every fucking thing you want out of a relatonship don’t feel bad about wanting anything the bitch will demonize you anyway if you break up so you might as well let your evil side come out and be demanding and get what you want make her jump through hoops or whatever floats your boat just think about the perfect way you want to live and make that happen the happy place in happy gilmore if is what you want then make it real
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Speaking of text messaging dead ends, like if a chick sends you something dumb, short, or something otherwise unworthy of a proper response, I like to go with the Chateau favorite-
“8=====D”
Sometimes you can spice it up with “8====D —– — — O-:”
Regardless, it keeps it going and you can segue into whatever you were aiming for (date, meet up, etc)
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Speaking of righteous video:
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OT.
The hamster see no color. It runs deep across nationality and culture.
ARTICLE: Woman in Argentina marries twin sister’s convicted killer
The bride, 23-year-old Edith Casas, says Victor Cingolani is innocent of killing her twin sister Johana more than two years ago, despite his conviction and 13-year prison sentence. The groom says he is innocent and will be absolved on appeal.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/02/14/woman-in-argentina-marries-twin-sister-convicted-killer/?intcmp=trending
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she prob did it for him and he took blame
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