A reader sent along this hilarious video of two dudes “gaming” chicks into giving up their phone numbers and, in some instances, agreeing to dates. I put gaming in quotes, because, well, see for yourself…
Short, sweet and…
oh so alpha.
There’s no need to dissect every jot and tittle of the game these guys demonstrate in this undercover video. This is more about the ALPHA ATTITUDE than about any specific game tactic or line. You’ve gotta look at the whole package, and what I’m seeing should put the lie to those betas and old skoolers who think you have to woo and compliment girls and generally act like a gentleman to get them to unfurl their figurative pussy lips.
Woo? Compliment? Impress?
Nah.
How about…
Demand. Look around impatiently. Act unimpressed. Talk like a bored teenage hooligan. Put in the minimum effort. Be a jackass.
“Bring the movies” man, say hello to “Put your phone number in my phone” man. Betas watch, and weep bitter tears.
1:42 is especially side splitting. Watch a few seconds in when he turns his body almost completely away from her, and replies “Cause I said” when she asks why she should give him her number. She gives it.
This is asshole game, and chicks LOOOOOOOVE it.
I can already hear the skeptics and knee-jerk haters.
“But those guys are good-looking!”
“They probably did 500 takes and chose the best twenty!”
“Getting girls’ phone numbers is easy!”
You know what? The haters aren’t wrong. They’re not right, but they’re not wrong, either.
Those two guys are better looking than the average man. They’re no Gosling or Tatum, but I’d guess they’re easy on the eyes for most girls.
And yeah, those are probably the best takes out of a lot that failed.
And yes, getting phone numbers is easier than getting the bang.
But here’s the thing. Even if you were of the limited mind that game only works for good-looking guys, you’re still admitting that game works. Because there are a lot of dudes who look as good or better than these guys who don’t get anywhere near the action these two get because those other guys approach women like the dutifully complimentary and investment-heavy beta males that is their comfort zone preference.
The world is filled with decent looking dudes who don’t get much pussy because they got no game. No style. No skill. No JERKBOY CHARISMA.
Are these selective takes? Sure. But that’s still twenty successful number and date closes in what looks to be a couple of afternoons. That’s twenty more pussy leads than most guys will get in TEN YEARS of beta male effort.
Yep, phone numbers are easy. But they’re harder to acquire than nothing. They mean more than air. They have more potential than polite hello’s. You gotta start somewhere champ. Bitching that phone numbers are easy or that the takes are selective or that you’re not good-looking enough to tango will not get you any closer to the prize. It will only feed your need for denial.
Meanwhile, the roadmap to pretty young poos is there for the taking. You just gotta… grab it.
UPDATE
The video guys claim they had a 25% rejection rate.
ps all pointy elbow syndrome comments will be deleted.

The beta horde chimes in:
http://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/18yh56/officially_the_easiest_way_ever_to_pick_up_girls/
If excuses were pennies…
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The only useful comment on that thread forwarded this Bangbros porn vid he’s in.
http://www.xvideos.com/video1252490/diamond_kitty_-_bang_bus_-_diamond_kitty_rides_the_bus
I’d imagine after banging a porn star for thousands of people to see, telling mormon college girls to put their number in your phone isn’t such a mental leap. Let’s hear more haters and manboobs cry into their beer.
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He seems non-alpha in that video. The girl was unattractive, with fake tits, and he was 2nd choice by her. Then he gets scolded for cumming in her eyes. I think his choice of girls (often black in other videos) shows he is not genuinely alpha, but just indifferent to the process.
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That’s a porn site, man.
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i’d hit that and dot the i’s
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Disgusting.
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Reddit: The Most Beta Shit On Earth
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Nothing shows a girl who is boss like facing in the opposite direction. Their subconscious obedience to body language.. it just is. And ‘because I want it’ is the greatest reason ever.
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There is no such thing as an alpha male. That guy sounds like a fucking faggot. If he is an “alpha” in America, then America is in really deep shit.
You want to see what a real alpha male looks like? Go to any Muslim country, or India, or Russia. THOSE are bad ass motherfuckers.
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They’re Alpha -to you- http://tinyurl.com/am7jubo
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>>>You want to see what a real alpha male looks like? Go to any Muslim country
You mean those pussies who scream “ISLAMOPHOBIA” every time something “offends” them? Who got their asses handed to them by the Israeli army how many times? I think you’ve juiced up with way too much Dianabol and it’s messed up your perception.
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I think he means the crazy muslims that blow themselves up taking another hundred people to death with them. In some twisted sense it could be called alpha. But such recklessness is not of any use in real life.
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Those Muslim guys that blow themselves up are total omegas. Their leaders look for the desperate, hopeless, losers amongst them. Why do you think they hard sell the 72 virgins thing?
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Hear hear.
To a backwards virgin paki, treated like shit his whole life by everyone he knows (including his equally dumb as dogshit peasant parents,) blowing yourself at “Americans” (or a proxy) is too bad.
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it works
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@ Rick Derris
@ Alpha Mission
Very true.
Islamic men are not alphas. Any Westerner can outsmart them if he weren’t brainwashed by liberal thought. Every current Islamic country on the face of the planet was established by Western powers, specifically The British Empire. Muslims would still be living in tents as nomadic tribes if it weren’t for Western powers developing their oil industry, or restructuring old nations and giving them borders. It’s precisely because Muslims can’t out power or outsmart the West their useless sneaky leaders found a way to circumvent their sad reality – they turn their masses into exploding bombs while they live it up in opulence like the cowards they are. They are nothing but a bunch of backward ass losers and we in the West give them too much attention and respect, which only emboldens them to continue.
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in kuwait during the summer or some kind of season they do live in tents out in the heat in the dessert 140 degrees no a/c
kind of like we camp
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You are spot on…that’s exactly why they should have been converted or destroyed long ago…
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The reason why the West has been more powerful is because they are more Beta. Muslim societies are more alpha, which means they have less in the way of scientists and other nerdy types to advance their society. However, it also means that they wont fall for civilizational shit tests like feminism. The Muslim world is probably the last outpost that has resisted feminism. For that, they are far superior to the West, regardless of how many gas guzzling gadgets the West currently has
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“The Muslim world is probably the last outpost that has resisted feminism. For that, they are far superior to the West, regardless of how many gas guzzling gadgets the West currently has”
Don’t be ridiculous. While feminism is bad for society, it doesn’t compare to living under an Islamic totalitarian regime. At least with feminism, you guys still get to have fun. Under Islam, you’d be living a backward existence. No science and technology, and no freedom to become somebody. There is no sense of individual rights or human dignity. Also, the few rich, the ones close to the king or the despot, or members of his family, get all the resource while the rest of the population live like paupers to serve him. So you control your women, so what? Is that enough for you men to be happy? Is that all you need to be happy? C’mon! That makes you slaves to women’s pussy cuz you’re willing to give up your personal freedom so that you can control women. It’s pathetic!
“Muslim societies are more alpha, which means they have less in the way of scientists and other nerdy types to advance their society.”
They are not alphas. They give off the illusion they are alpha because they control their women. Alpha is a more complicated set of behaviors than just controlling women. Controlling women is just one aspect of it, but alone it doesn’t constitute alpha. Put Islamic men up against any westerner who isn’t shackled by liberal thinking and see the outcome. You don’t understand Islamic mindset, so here goes – Muslims are complete pussies; they respect only strength. Strength is what they worship. Show them power, and they will kowtow before you. Show them weakness, and they will devour you. There was a time they never dared raise their heads against Westerners. But when the United Nations was created and they gained admission to the club, it gave them a voice to start dealing and wheeling with Western nations on a level playing field. All because of their oil. If they didn’t possess oil, no one would be spitting in their direction. That’s why we need to develop our own oil – so that Islam will have less power over us and so that Muslims countries don’t get the funding to subsides terrorists.
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It is really kinda foolish to compare us with them, since these are two different worlds.
Who says they don’t have personal freedom? That isn’t true.
They’re free as long as they don’t do crime, or say something against government.
If they use force, they – in many places of islamic world – won’t get into prison, while in west you get to prison or pay large fine or get fired at least, if you hit somebody or make him bleed(again not everywhere but generally that is the rule). Some other areas of life are also far more liberal than on west…
We get to have fun under this liberalism, indeed we do – and so do they under their form of government since they don’t know better. They are of much cleaner hearth(considering adultery) and what turns us little turns them a lot. And also because of that, they enjoy their women better, since they had to wait longer, and she is all many of them will ever have.
What might be the point of that nostalgia that you went on bashing is: we could learn something from them, and implement it in our societies so we could remedy our main problems just a little at least.
Will it happen? Probably not. Would it work? Depends, but not likely again.
What’s to happen? Who tha hell knows…
Either cyclical crap where some “new stuff” will be introduced into society and become norm like feminism has till now , and it will be “all new” while it actually will be something already done for thousands of years in past, or some societal collapse/catastrophe/desintegration after long period of stagnation that MAY have already began(but may not – look at the roman empire and China, and India and in matter of fact: every other imaginable civillization)since that stagnation may be temporal and not permanent…
They worship strenght? Agreed. They are pussies? Agreed. But what than to think of western man who yielded before qeers, and girls?
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Heh, exactly.
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Like Great Books For Men said on 4 Feb 2013:
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/02/04/choice-quotes-from-michel-houellebecq/#comment-408293
“Today the master fiat class gives the first rights of your wife to an endless array of douchetards, starting in elementary school, commanding her to see lying, peacocking, manipulative, girly beta males as alphas, while seeing manly alphas as betas; as her mother exiled her true father long ago, under command of the fiat masters.”
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Holy shit, that is an eye-opening insight:
Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks a/k/a the cock-hopping carousel of the 20s and early 30s
equals
an extended Prima Nocte
with the future Wall Victim Western Wife most betas will marry.
Courtesy of feminists, the Sexual Revolution, and harpies everywhere.
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You forgot the “lzzolzozololzozzololz
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Oh, yeah… P.S. “lzozozozlzolz”
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sorry I meant to write “There is no such thing as an alpha male in America”.
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Alphas don’t correct their mistakes 😉
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Dunno, Kate, could be a DLV fake-out.
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You pass 🙂
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Ooo! Validation to go with my morning tea. Heh.
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Kate, go fuck yourself, you dumb bitch. You American/western women are all garbage and you should just go fucking drop dead, as your opinions mean jack shit.
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I was only teasing 🙂
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Yessss, and I was teasing back. I gather from this site that things work like this, no? Be kind to me, it’s my first time.
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I like this guy. 🙂
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Alpha is relative. All you have to be is not like the Betas in America.
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This
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Yes, there’s nothing more disgusting than those chickenshit faggot beta male American men, along with their feminist overlords.
Another question- I asked over 2,000 women during the past year if they think it’s acceptable for women to destroy men’s lives through divorce, false accusations, etc. Guess how many women said no? ZERO. That means that 100 PERCENT of American/western women support misandry.
The dumb cunt Kate above, should go do something useful like throw herself off a cliff. What are WOMEN doing in MRA/manosphere websites? Oh that’s right, they are chickenshit terrified that their free ride is coming to an end and that men are no longer going to support them financially, and so all of a sudden, women are starting to act “traditional” again. DO NOT BUY INTO THE LIES OF THESE FUCKING WOMEN, men. There is NO SUCH THING as an anti-feminist woman. American/western women only care about THEMSELVES and what you can give to them, i.e. financial support.
REFUSE TO GET MARRIED, REFUSE TO SUPPORT AMERICAN WOMEN. BOYCOTT THEM AND LET THEM BE TRULY INDEPENDENT AND SUPPORT THEMSELVES!
BOYCOTT AMERICAN WOMEN!!!!!
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2000 thats pretty hardcore shit
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You done?
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well said, it makes sense. feminist already destroy all of them. none left. so we all have to fuck feminist now or russians, rather russians
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Put yo phone number….. IN MAH DICK!
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“I’m sorry, ‘your dick?'”
“YES MAH DICK”
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http://bit.ly/fFf6z
But good on them for pushing boundaries, regardless.
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Agreed. Flakiness has already been well-covered in its diagnoses, causes, and potential remedies, but still rarely fails to amaze me with its sheer mind-boggling ubiquity.
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That is funny and effective. Back when I was younger, guys didn’t carry around cell phones. You would have to write your phone number on his body somewhere, or he’d have to remember it.
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And now…a guy could bail on you mid-date because he got a better offer through text while he was in the bathroom.
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Right, in the past, he had to get a better offer in person. It happened to me once or twice.
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Cell phones have changed everything. While there is no doubt whatsoever that they are useful game tools, there is a case to be made for NOT using them.
If a person doesn’t have a cell phone, you can’t text them. No chance of overindulging in letting someone know you’re thinking of them. Mystery ensues. No easy way to turn them down. Obligation ensues. I guess I’d call it “old-fashioned” game. Going out with someone tomorrow I don’t want to as a result. Will have to be brave and say thanks but no thanks in person. The horror!
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You can’t do the fadeaway. The horror!
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This video is a perfect example for all those nincompoops who claim that game is not necessary, and that clothing and money do all the work.
Notice the lyrics:
Silver Linings Playbook: good movie! Don’t want to ruin it for anybody, but the ending was a relief.
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assuming of course that the number you gave him was real (and yours), and that you didn’t flake on the date.
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yall think if the girl doesn’t feel a connection its usually lack of attraction… either the physical or guy didnt have game? I doubt high value guys have trouble finding women who feel a connection…
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he should’ve looked at his phone and say “well, obviously” after she gave him her number @0:50
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See, at the moment, I’d say I’m in a bit of an in between stage, being new to game. I can game lower value girls well, since they think I’m hot shit. I’d say I have most success with 4s and 5s, but I also don’t want 4s and 5s. xD
I’m on the short side (5’6″), but as far as looks and fitness go, I’d say I’m a high 7 to mid-8. Height hasn’t been too much of a restriction for me, and I don’t let it bother me too much (read your post about your short friend).
I’m just having trouble pushing myself to open with higher value girls. I’ve dated some solid 8s and 9s before, but meh. These nerves, bro.
And high school blows.
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Don’t let high school get you down. The best thing about high school is that in some cases it’s fun, and in all cases it will soon be over.
Doing things like this will help you. Drive three towns over on a Saturday and spending several hours doing this “Put your number in my phone” game. It will do a lot to reduce your “nerves”.
Today, make it a point to meet the eyes of every hot girl you see, do not look away, say hello with a slight smile, and wait.
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Read this from DannyFrom504. Blammo, done.
Also, a favorite opener–rock up to a girl or 3 and: “Hey, I need [a friend, some friends] for a minute to [talk about situational thing X, your latest book, adventure, get a beer at the bar, whatever]” sprinkle a little energy and enthusiasm for yourself, and you’re in.
It’s a variant on the ol’ “hey i have to go in a minute but..” but I find it’s an easier transition to conversation. And if they’re not cool, then they’re done being your friends.
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“Hey, I need [a friend, some friends] for a minute to [talk about situational thing X, your latest book, adventure, get a beer at the bar, whatever]”
– Classic Neil Strauss. Good advice.
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I think this was at BYU, which is even more hilarious, but its supposedly full of “good girls”
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Yes, it was BYU. I recognized it too unfortunately. Not exactly a feminist stronghold however.
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Yeah, when I heard BYU I did a double take. bit I suppose those girls are sick of guys dressed like the Best Buy Geek Squad giving them marriage proposals every day, and it worked in the favor of our two heroes here.
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That’s why Direct Game doesn’t exist, it’s just taking whts yours
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“Gaming”, like it’s not real game? If this isn’t good classic game, then nothing is.
[Heartiste: Compared to MM style game, this is low investment. Compared to the game most betaboyz think will attract girls, this is practically doing nothing at all.]
Aloof, alpha, rock solid self confidence, cocky/funny.. Core game concepts put to good use.
[True.]
Asshole game, where?!
[The typical niceguy would call this asshole game. In the land of the blind…]
There’s no malice here _at all_.
[Strawman. Asshole game is not synonymous with malice. Only tradcons, mgtows and assorted white knights believe that. Asshole game is about outcome independence. And, yes, acting a bit like a jerk. You don’t think turning your back on a girl is a little jerky? It is, when you contrast it with how most guys act around women they like.]
Jeez, someone needs to be more selective with handing out the Chateau keys.
[There is a new policy here at CH. All comments which rely for their substance on a false premise — such as a strawman — will be deleted with extreme prejudice.]
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This.
I laughed out loud when I watched the video. So funny.
“Why did you give me your number?”
“Because you asked me to.”
Boy, let’s not let Stanley Milgram’s ghost or intellectual progeny anywhere near these women.
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Like Heartiste pointed out, women are incredibly obedient to alpha male authority. (And in Milgram’s authority, women followed instructions all the way to the end.)
“Women are evolutionarily configured to desire … leaders of women.” — the Chateau
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“But what if I’m a racist?”
Yeah… real alpha there. LLLOOZOZOZOZLZLZLZZOZOZOZLZLZL
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“Compared to the game most betaboyz think will attract girls, this is practically doing nothing at all.]”
Very true. The big difference between the two is that the beta side thinks things need to be discussed. “What are you looking for in a relationship?” “Are you busy this weekend?” “What would you like to do?” None of these sentences need ever be uttered for a woman to go out with you. Men give directives; women respond to them. If you’re not sure, she won’t be either.
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Lazy cad game, yes. Low investment, yes. Succeeding in street pickups like this is more than most guys with decent game will accomplish. But I think we have wildly different definitions of asshole game. For me it would be ignoring a girl who really, really needs you, just because you know she’ll want you even more if you do. Or smacking and humiliating her (Chris Brown game). Women love violence, a lot of them even against themselves. And they just rationalize their tingles for it in all sorts of ways for the right guy at the expense of deep inner turmoil, chaos and confusion turned into wild desire which makes her juices flow like a faucet. A battleground for a war she doesn’t understand, all she knows is she never craved anything like this before, and she never wants to let it go. Or screwing other women when it rips her heart apart, but she loves you too much to leave you, and her base animal instincts makes her want you even more because what women want is what all other women want too.
Outcome independence isn’t even edgy like low investment street pickups, it’s a base tenant of game, and should only be avoided if you’re overwhelming her and you need to show some weakness to approach her level. No meanness or caddishness involved, it’s just being (or acting like) a ladies man, whether cad or classy. And being a bit of a jerk sometimes is the salt in the soup of game, essential if you ask me, and far from being a real asshole. Or maybe being an asshole just comes naturally to me, I don’t know.
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“Chris Brown game”
Heh
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You can’t argue with success. Women are usually very conform – they go to extremes not to seem different. A world of angry femmes can’t make Rihanna stop loving Chris Brown, because, well.. The beatings and humiliations he administered and probably still dish out lit a flame in her animal heart that no political correctness can extinguish.
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Or, according to Tina Turner, Ike Turner Game.
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Amazing screen for retarded girls!
[Heartiste: Filmed on BYU campus. They’re smarter than the average girl. You lose, troll.]
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I wonder if the religious nature of the girls (BYU) makes them more amicable to strangers, or if we should give these guys bonus points for the degree of difficulty.
BYU Honor Code states no sex outside marriage, and they’ve enforced this in the past with student athletes if I”m not mistaken.
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Actually, it’s the first explanation. It’s *because* of that honor code that these women are a bit more trusting than average in giving out their phone numbers. It works like this: Since everyone on that campus has agreed to the honor code (and since everyone knows that everyone has agreed to the honor code), it lowers the initial resistance. The female hamster says, “He’s agreed to that honor code; he knows that I’ve agreed to it; therefore, it’s safe to give out my number. I’m unlikely to get pumped-n-dumped.”
BYU has a unique social and dating culture. Some think it’s sadly archaic that it’s morally 50 years behind the times. Others think it’s fantastic that it is–as in, there’s no need to go to eastern Europe to find traditional women. One can just go to Provo.
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Mormons have more fun? Is buttsex and oral considered intercourse?
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a fair point lol
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Unfortunately it’s considered terrible sin. On the upshot, frivorce and lawyer-rape is also considered terrible sin, so it’s not all bad in the land of the Mormons if you consider yourself a family man and don’t mind following a religion cooked up by a fast-talking con-man who needed some cash. (I knock it, but they’ve been far more successful than the average denomination at preserving the sanctity of the family. Shame about the heresy and all)
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A little OT but it is interesting that the founding fathers of this religion were into polygamy… and now strongly oppose all these “sins”. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism_and_polygamy
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Ha. London Black guy Game goes US white. On a slow connect so I can’t run the video. Does he then call her phone to check it’s a valid #? Wot is wrong wiv u? U need it girl. I can see.
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Great shit altogether.
Multiply by seven for its effectiveness on the gay scene
Also, it’s a general rule of life: BOLD WORKS!!
Did u notice how the main guy had strong looking shoes?
Not the crappy creppy type that herbs have.
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The funny thing is… you can learn the evolutionary basis for game in biological anthropology course. And yeah, I have asked girls to put my number in their phones with decent rates of success. ANY guy can do it something like that, you just need a modicum of confidence and to not waver.
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chick: i can’t give you my number
dude: its ok i’m from russia
chick oh ok
”””””
lol
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Yeah, dated a psycho once who was also a psychometrician. Apparently, there’s an experiment where people attempt to cut others in a line. People who wish to cut experience a 90% success rate if they say the following lines
“Excuse me, can I go in front of you? I have to….”
Then close to ANYTHing said after “I have to” works so long as it is sincerely said.
“I have to feed my cat.”
“I have to shine my shoes.”
etc.
Try it next time you’re out.
People are quite willing to do minor favors/obey strangers’ wills on minor matters so long as the person says the correct “catechism” before hand. (e.g. “I have to.”)
Amazing how simplistic animals people are.
Me? I always say “I have to….RAPE!”
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I thought that was funny, this whole video struck me as Fight Club’esque. It comes off as one of the assignments Pitt would hand out in the movie… Go to a Christian school and get chicks phone numbers.
Maybe I’m putting too much thought into this but the “im from russia” line might work because women are genetically programmed to diversify a gene pool. I would also add that a few of the hottest chicks on the video would be put off by the guy asking “why did you give me your phone number” after they did. If they did follow the lead up with the hottest ones it would be hard to recover from that.
Most of these college chicks would be very busy, full credit semester classes and homework and a ft job or a few pt jobs. They would respond very well to any type of game. Get number, text later, “drinks 2nite at blahblah…” and that would be sufficient to get your foot well into the door.
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If you can do accents at all well, chicks eat that shit up. I’ve run “Irish,” “Swedish,” “German,” and even “non-descript Eastern European” and as long as you can stay more or less consistent with the accent girls totally go for it.
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“Maybe I’m putting too much thought into this but the “im from russia” line might work because women are genetically programmed to diversify a gene pool.”
No it works because any reason is better than no reason. The famous experiment is asking people to cut in line at a copy machine. Adding “because I have to make a copy” increases compliance.
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Interesting
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“Oh ok”
Ok because it an indiscretion that wont be discovered.
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B U T …
it takes rock-hard boldness to pull this off. Totally unsmiling.
Bear in mind that on a university campus you could easily get done for “harassment” (and yet those “harassment” chicks swoon for hard game)
It’s just like “fart in public” game – there can be NO self-consciousness. Any blanch and you’re dead
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Hah hah, I gotta try this some time.
Over the summer when that “Call Me Maybe” song was big I used to get tons of numbers by quoting it. I’d be out at a bar, strike up a conversation with a girl, then just pause and think for a second…Then go “Hey I just met you, and this is crazy–” The girl would usually start giggling at this point “–But let me get your number–” If the girl was really into it, then she’d sing “So call me maybe!” as she was putting the numbers in.
It was so fucking goofy, but it quoted an infectious song that a lot of girls secretly loved. I resurrected this method again in December and struck out, because that song is old hat now. Now I’d probably have to say something like “Gimme numbah style!” or some variation on the Harlem Shake.
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“Gimme numbah style!” or some variation on the Harlem Shake.”
I find this hilarious and sad at the same time. At times like these I wonder how guys actually have trouble getting girl to at least giving them numbers.
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Yeah, there’s still this weird, nervous energy that always abounds when asking for a girl’s number. The thing is guys and girls friend one another on Facebook all the time with no problems, and that seems like a much bigger leap than giving someone your number.
I’ve found that if you can make a girl smile or laugh then she’ll give you her number. This is why quoting pop songs worked so much for me – It was dorky as hell, but it was creative and would elicit happy vibes.
Even better, though, is when she grabs your phone and puts her number in without you even asking.
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Lol weird al game
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This is priceless.
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But how many of the phone numbers were real, not for the local mental health clinic?
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I wonder if this technique would work as well in a bar (where chicks anticipate approaches) as well as it works during the day, when a girl is going about her biznaz and doesn’t expect it. My guess would be no. Still extremely useful day game technique.
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“Here, put your number in my phone.” (while she does so, looks around at anything and everything but her) — priceless.
I’ve told girls a couple of times to put their number in my phone, but this will make me start doing it more.
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Anyone here see that when the girl gives her number out, its like her brain was operating on auto pilot. Some kinda of primitive mechanism that emerges to Take a risk with such a confident Male. I seriously wonder if some of them a few minutes later asked them self “What did I just do?… I would normally never JUST give my number out”
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I think it’s more Compliance Autopilot than it is real risk taking.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_Experiment
It’s the G rated Apocalypse Opener, essentially.
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Or, the girls are ten times smarter than you PUAers and gave a fake numbers. whaaaaat
but it’s fun watching y’all pat yourself on the back for “confirmation” of your insane theories
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Nope. There was no resistance, no hesitation, and no pause as they tried to think of a fake number.
Nice try troll.
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A fair point, and a reaction I shared somewhat.
But “ten times smarter”? Let’s not go crazy now.
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More like 20 times smarter than your ass, that’s for sure. Don’t you have some screen credits to asses for their joozness?
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Everything about the guys’ behavior says, “No big deal” — the way they’re dressed, body language, tone of voice, the lack of time and energy investment, the lack of substantive explanation (“because I said”).
The men are acceptable sex prospects because they they have no obvious disqualifiers (not fat, dirty, ugly, weird, etc.). They’re slightly rude, but they don’t over-react to accusations of rudeness by taking offense, so even the “rude” disqualifier is eliminated.
But even with all the casualness, they’re still being sexually assertive. So, they’re telegraphing the prospect of sex at some point, while also conveying the message that it’s all minimally important. They’re keeping things as casual as possible, while also staying away from the friendzone.
I don’t know if calling it “asshole game” really fits here. I think the main point is that they are lowering the initial barrier — the intro — as low as possible by being 100% casual, while still clearly maintaining at least some sexual tension.
This is what betas do all the time by befriending girls, but it lands them in the friendzone — they try to make the initial meetings as low-pressure as possible by relating to girls as friends, but they can’t telegraph sexual tension without turning the sex dial up to 11.
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“This is what betas do all the time by befriending girls, but it lands them in the friendzone — they try to make the initial meetings as low-pressure as possible by relating to girls as friends”
The less talking men and women do, the better.
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I keep it simple — don’t be friends with women.
Friendly? Civil? Sure.
But I don’t recommend that men spend their one-on-one (or small group) free time with women they’re not having sex with (or planning to).
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100% spot on. I never understood the logic of just being “friends” with a chick. I agree with in the sense that you could be civil, or friendly. But “friends”? I just don’t , and never have gotten that shit.
Not to brag or boast, but when I was single I had my way with many many females. And I was pretty dam rude to them. In fact borderline nasty on too many occasions to count. Most females dug that shit like no tomorrow.
On plenty of occasions, while having dinner with a chick I would say things like “dam” rather loudly when another hot chick walked by my date and I. Or I would make it a point to flirt with other females openly in front of my date. In some cases I would turn my back to the girl I was out with and strike up conversations with other chicks on the corner while waiting for the light to change so we could cross the street.
That is all in the past. However I applied these strategies long before the internet. It made my teens and early twenties very enjoyable. Hell, I still flirt with waitresses in front of my wife from time to time. We will be at a restaurant out here in Sydney Australia and I will lay down my Chicago accent with raw intensity. LOL!!!!
In closing, I must say I love this site. I read it pretty regularly. I find it to be very entertaining for me. And very informative for young men who are trying to spank some ass as well. This site touches on some very deep truths that most people in polite society either deny, or choose to ignore. If a young man applies the knowledge he learns here in the field, he will undoubtedly raise his success ratio many times over. Keep up the good work Chateau Hertiste.
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Kate, it’s sad how much time you spend on here gunning for smartest/cutest girl in the room. Agreeing with these idiots says a lot about you and your opinion of fellow women. get a life, girl. and oooh, nice pic!!!!! Kate’s not fat, everybody! ain’t she special?
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Oh, I’m not so special. Pretty ordinary, actually. I spend time here because I like to be in a sane place where the world is right side up and the hard work to stay looking in decent shape is appreciated. My opinion of many women is not that great, considering you usually hear them denegrating men at every opportunity with a complete lack of regard for all the helpful things men do for them.
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Troll’s gotta troll, and feminist’s gotta shriek, but this is getting a bit much.
It’s time for your afternoon cookies and nap, so get the fuck outa here already.
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Put your number…on second thought no.
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There is a shocking lack of Corvettes ’round these parts! 🙂
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Vettes are for betas. Did you figure out your four letter code?
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Oh! HAHA! I thought you were trying to help me!
No, I have no idea how to figure out my code. I think the mystery will be solved if I can just open the safe.
How did you figure yours out? And what did you do with that information?
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Well you were looking for 50 year olds ;). Take this crude test to start:
bloginality.love-productions.com/index2.php
I used it to gain insight into everyone around me and to recognize the types of women I could stand to be with.
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Morning 🙂 I still am:)
I had a hard time answering a couple of those questions even though there were only a few. The results said I am an INFP (Healer/Idealist). Quelle surprise! I better take a few minutes to look on the bright side and heal myself 😉
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Looks like my dual is the ESTp (The Conqueror). I feel like I’ve just been cubed. Thank you again. That was very informative and potentially helpful!
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INFP, interesting, but not unexpected. One of the most feminine types. I’m guessing you had a hard time on #2 and #4 based on vague impressions.
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You certainly need a guy who would cube you for snorting ;).
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Yes, #2 and #4. How did you know that? Are you wearing a fuzzy hat? 😉
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Naw, the guy in the fuzzy hat is my illegitimate kid 😉 You’re introverted and feeling, no doubt (#1 and #3). Plus I pegged you as INFJ with an outside chance of ISFP. Google those three and see which description matches you best.
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Jungian psych blows
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Lots of things about the Romantic and the Empath fit me, but there are things that are completely inacurrate as well. There are some things about the Peacemaker that ring true, but a lot that doesn’t seem to fit.
I was thinking people could use parts of these descriptions in online profiles: for both who they are and what they’re looking for. I would imagine some of the words are triggers for people.
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You look like an Empath in your pics. Take this longer test to be sure:
http://www.socionics.com/sta/sta_turbo_xl.html
Either way, your dual is one of the “natural alpha” types. Forget the betas 😉
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repost: Yep, Empath. So, I’m back at square one, but at least I have a psychological excuse! 🙂
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“Jungian psych blows”
Perhaps you’re an introverted male. No one could ever possibly use it to size up a counterparty to negotiations or seduce or filter the opposite sex. Right?
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Jung was far too egalitarian, and brought to the fore all the crap about men getting in touch with their feminine sides that has brought untold damage to men for generations since.
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Hahaha that was awesome.
“Who are you?”
“Shhhh”
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Fellas, you control your own reality. If your reality doesn’t see you getting the girl, you won’t. My philosophy just relies on FLOW. FLOW in all aspects. Enjoy life. Hitting on girls is fun, the more serious you take it, the less chance you have. “No big deal ladies, I’m just involved in a highly illegal underground hot air balloon racing circuit.”
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O.T.: Black History Month for White People.
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This is a pretty solid representation of game in a number of ways. Obviously, the alpha like outcome independence and straightforwardness of the approach is great. The guy in the hoodie and dog shirt is better at it. He doesn’t ask for the number as much as he tells them to put it in the phone and he does more of the disinterested DGAF body language. Also, by having the girls enter the phone number, you’re getting a compliance act which will make them more receptive in the future.
There is no doubt that some of the numbers garnered from this technique will be fake though. I think the man that tells gets less fakes than the man that asks. Also, if you do this at a bar, club, coffee shop, or any venue where you can carry on with a follow up conversation, this is a) great for screening out those not worth carrying on with and b) if you continue the conversation and maintain frame throughout, a woman who gave a fake number may actually ask for the phone back later on so she can correct it.
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I did this with a girl I’m banging who was shit-testing me.
Me: “Come over. I’m making tea.”
Her: I’m on my way back from teaching, I’m in street clothes, you don’t like that.
Me: Making tea now. Come over.
her; Ha?
I didn’t respond to any of her follow ups.
She came ovre.
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okay submit for your approval
I once abruptly entered a semi crowded pub and interrupted 3 women talking about something. They were somewhat blocking the entrance walkway so as I entered they had to stop talking and acknowledge me as I approached.
I made eye contact w/ the woman in the center and they somewhat embarrasedly moved out of the way. A flash of brilliance entered my brain. I thought I should tell the center woman , ” Hey sorry I’m late, there was construction going on at the freeway exit. By the way where did you park? Out back or across the street?” then I’d turn to the girl on the left and comment on her drink. “So what’s good to drink here? I usually order a draft beer, I’m going green to save the planet, no glass bottles y’know.”
No I didn’t say any of this but I thought it.
My point here is that by arriving and thrusting myself into their conversation and group I’d be much more productive than just sitting in the corner waiting for them to notice me.
Sometimes the best ideas come after the fact.
I am trying very hard to just “Do it!”
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Hey Heartiste, I hate to break it to you but the VitalyzD guy who made this video was frauding.
Your post completely rings true, but this guy has known to fake his videos – another forum I frequent posted pictures of the same people in several of his videos.
Whether it’s a fake or not, I’m not sure, but he has used the same people in multiple videos before.
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With so many men who pussyfoot around asking for digits (game denialists) this is proof the more balls out you are the more you’re rewarded.
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In my experience “asshole game” merely constitutes going against pre-established social rituals/rules and plays off a female’s surprise.
The above video is a perfect example. Normally 10 minutes of awkward conversation is required before you can muster up your beta courage and ask a girl for her digits. These guys just don’t bother with pleasantries.
Asshole game is any instance where you find yourself saying “You can’t just do that,” and the alpha just smiles and says, “Oh yes I can.”
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Exactly.
Here is a fantastic discussion on “asshole” from Shark — and how it’s just a word that women use to label men taking action. Basically, be an uncaring asshole, not one who’s try-hard to hurt (because that just seems needy):
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here’s the entire problem with the chateau
they act like “game” is a set of “techniques” “anyone” can “master”
when what they’re talking about is the natural behaviour of a man who truly knows and respects himself
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“There’s [this] trick with a knife I am learning to do”.
I don’t think it’s a “problem” at all, especially in light of all of the other nonsense thrown at us by “modern” “society”.
There is theory, practice, and mind set. All of these things can be worked on incrementally, it’s fun, and it’s also rewarding in all aspects of one’s life.
Besides, a site about being an Alpha that has as its sole deliverable the message that “to be an Alpha you need to be an Alpha” is probably not going to have much of a following, mate.
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Are people incapable of arguing without strawmen?
Saying “you have to truly know and respect yourself” is all well and good, but it’s abstract. Maybe the phrase means something useful to you, and the words sound nice as concepts, but until you see what it Game looks like in terms of actual practice, in a wide variety of real-world contexts, your summary abstractions don’t mean very much.
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Cognitive Behavioral Therapy’s entire foundation makes your remark invalid.
New paradigms can be ‘cognified’ through outward behavioral practice; old, false ones can be discarded by ident., articulation, cognitive abandonment, and being ‘crowded out’ by newer better ones.
++I’m sure, viz. Joseph Wolpe, by a certain point a successful alpha practice creates such a Cognitive-Dissonance with the old beta limiting beliefs, as to make their abandonment that much easier.
-Just in a converse way it’s also near-impossible to be terrified and creative, or hyper-anxious and math-genius at the same time.
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CBT and its cousin RET were invented by kikes, BTW.
And if you look at RET’s founder, Albert Ellis, he was a real alpha. Spent all his time bonking different women in New York, and never married. Lived into his eighties.
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It’s both a set of techniques that can be mastered to a variying degree depending on talent/genes etc. and the natural behavior of someone who gets a lot of girly attention. More precisely the former should mimic the latter, until it becomes natural behavior. Fake it ’til you make it.
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Pink Mist.
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Give me your number and place to live game: http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/raymond-holycross-dubbed-internet-casanova-face-charges-142559202–abc-news-topstories.html
Game works. Suck it haters and trolls
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Holycross; Textbook Psychopath. It’s nothing to emulate or be proud of.
But it’s an excellent example of one. Tnxs for that link Holden.
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These kids are nothing compared to this guy in the video. They have just met when it happened:
http://odia.ig.com.br/portal/rio/casal-faz-sexo-em-praia-de-rio-das-ostras-e-v%C3%ADdeo-cai-na-internet-1.551730
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Your Portuguese is non-existent.
“Casal” means married couple.
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Not necessarily. ‘Casal’ can mean just ‘a man and a woman’, too.
The comments on the youtube page say they had just met. Is it true? I don’t doubt it.
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Just now today, I bailed out of the equity market, Like, 8 figures/ worth. Idiots, all of them…. Should I bequeath it all to my Australian Shebhaerd/ ? She has very little body-fat andsxhe wll nevr ever call an attunry… No matter what I do.
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lol rum don’t spell like me dude
what happened bro you still doctoring it or what
nice on 8 figures could give some to ch and set up a foundation for lobbyists to harang congressman with letters on shit all day long
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creepy creepsters
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The esteemed filmographer only shows his successes, i.e. those STUPID girls who give the phone number. this is not an example of true Alpha, it’s an example of alpha wanna-be picking up cheap stupid sluts. But oh so useful for CH and his pet theories, so I understand why he posts it. Keep livin the illusion bro.
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BYU is the #68 ranked college in America. These girls are probably all a bit smarter than the average bear.
And “game only works on stupid club sluts” is one of the oldest, and worst, anti-game pseudo arguments.
The fundamentals of game work pretty much everywhere, on pretty much all women, with tweaks for cultural situation and individual style.
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dude every girl is a cheap stupid slut. your mother is a cheap stupid slut. at least by what i get from your criteria.
ladies like powerful men. and powerful men dont ask. they dont fuck around.
these are just normal girls. these guys tell them to put the number in the phone cuz i said and they do cause it gives them ladywood.
sure theres failures. but the 15 seconds it takes per broad means they can play the numbers game more efficiently. plus they tease strong prospects to up the chances. “what if im a rapist?”. thats all it is. these guys are stramlining a numbers game.
its a great idea really.
what kind of girl do you want? i mean if you are just trying to fuck someone its a good idea to get a bunch of numbers. if you want a wife your gonna have to do shit like this for YEARS and sift through them. better get started now. but if you think you are gonna find a broad that doesnt give out her number you are either wrong or you are going to be miserable.
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Whoa there. Not all women are sluts.
Some are whores.
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Lol, right. 25% rejection rate, 75% staged for the camera. I’m not saying game doesn’t work, but please. Obvious bullshit.
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lol former chick and husband came to door to pick up her id
dude wearing my sweatshirt i let her take when she begged me for it
made him take it off and give it to me
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i’m like wtf dude why you let her get back on drugs
what about her kids
he like she can do what she want with who she wants go wherever she wants
hows that workin out for ya
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she was cosigning
he was like its cold i ain’t got nothin else on i’ll give it to you later
she like give it to him
thats fucked up
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wow, a lot of these girls have the same phone number. 867-5309! maybe they all live in a group house together! gonna have a wild night dude, we rawk!
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My lazy cad game involves roofies and chloroform.
Rape!
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is it alpha if your counselor wants to write your life story on her off time.
he he he
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i’m dong my card idea and just hand em out to every bitch in the world
ideas gents
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I wonder how this game variety would go down in NYC.
You’d probs have to be in just the right spot for it, though. That would rule out places like TSQ.
But places like Chelsea Bed Bath & Beyond, or warm-weather-weekend parks like Bryant or USq. maybe; hrm, …
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*++Different note: YaReally’s patented social-scene/politeness-puncture would probably win big in a lot of those places where everyone claims to be an i-banking finance crook. Good to be the different, interesting guy…
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Paul Janka runs similar daygame in NYC. He basically gives them a “movie trailer” glimpse of his life/personality, grabs a #, and GTFOs. His thinking is “you’re not going to build anymore attraction in 10 minutes than 2 minutes so fuck it” lol
Highly recommend his free eBook for a slightly different perspective on gaming. Like he picks up during the week and takes girls out on weekends instead of competing at the bars etc. He’s not exactly a PUA, he’s more of a good-looking natural who’s just codified what he does and his mentalities toward women. It’s worth checking out his stuff if you’re looking to expand your knowledge of seduction in general…like an MMA guy taking some boxing classes to see what he can take/apply from it.
NYC’s culture is a special beast compared to the rest of North America. Would love to live there for a while.
“Different note: YaReally’s patented social-scene/politeness-puncture would probably win big in a lot of those places where everyone claims to be an i-banking finance crook. Good to be the different, interesting guy…”
Yup. It goes over fine in lower class crowds but right now I’m in a well-off city so I spend a lot of time in these gay iBanker scenes where the guys are all running the rat race competing with eachother and seeking approval/validation of their value from the women and the women all shit-test them hard about their value (I’ve been asked “what do YOU drive?” bitchy-style like in Swingers lol). The bars are designed the enhance this “classy high value” vibe and the girls are simply reacting to the frame the men set but the frame the men set is based off their being hypnotized by the environment and brainwashed by social conditioning.
The end result is a self-perpetuating cycle of people who would be perfectly cool with eachother and fuck eachothers brains out, all getting swept up in games and putting on fake personas and socially approved facades and qualifying to eachother and testing eachother to avoid having real, honest interactions with eachother.
So when I say shit like “you look good tonight. (“Thanks.”) I’ll probably rub at LEAST one out tonight thinking about you while I creep around outside your bedroom window.” everyone, guys and girls who hear, freeze up like deer in the headlights with no idea how to respond because they don’t have a stock response for that, but it’s so offensive that they can’t NOT respond so their instincts kick in and they react to me.
To get philisophical: It’s at that instant that I’m seeing who they REALLY are.
Does the guy tell me to apologize? White Knight, okay I know how to use that to build attraction with the girls. Does the guy quietly stand there shocked or in awe? Beta, I can walk all over him. Does the guy laugh and join in? Alpha, him and I will be buddies.
Does the girl get stunned and speechless? Even if her facade was man-eating bitch, she’s actually a nice simple girl who’s just never been challenged so I can pull it back a bit and just be a nice dude. Does she bitch me out? Even if her facade was pleasant socialite, she’s showing me that she’s really got a temper and passionate and a shit-tester and I can work with that and escalate it into a hate-fuck. Is she loud and shit-talking, but that was what her facade/persona was anyway? Congrats, that’s a girl who’s honest and congruent and doesn’t try to live up to other people’s approval.
I would get NONE of that information if I went up trying to be James Bond and talk about my impressive Rolex watch and iBanker job and car and let her and the environment dictate how I should feel about myself.
Don’t let the environment hypnotize you. It’s all an illusion. Don’t get sucked into other people’s reality, suck them into YOURS.
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Good stuff, man!
Feels like a lot of practice & education to break those old habits & fears. -But well worth it.
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“Don’t let the environment hypnotize you. It’s all an illusion. Don’t get sucked into other people’s reality, suck them into YOURS.”
This is the key to the kingdom
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“Don’t let the environment hypnotize you. It’s all an illusion. Don’t get sucked into other people’s reality, suck them into YOURS.”
This applies to business and life, not just game.
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“Dame tu número” (Give me your #) and this is how I took this girl home (no poos for now) http://transmillenium.wordpress.com/2013/02/22/dame-tu-numero/
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spanish game? me gusta mucha! pues, vamos a ver de que tenemos aqui. .
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Spanish Game in a spanish spoken country. But I think using this on an anglophone country would work. The Attitude is universal. Maybe we could do the same with Alien hot girls.
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vale, , tu primer lengua es español? eres Columbiano?
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Si señor.
I don’t want to be a dick and I respect your ortography and your spanish is not that bad as 99%, but I have to correct you: “¿Tu primera lengua es español? ¿Eres Colombiano?”.
If you come here and try the “local dishes” you could train your tongue for some spanish.
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agradezco por la corrección,like what I said in the comment I left in your blog, I highly appreciate the corrections you will give. so no, you’re not being a dick, you are being a good native correcting a foreign guy who wants to speak your language. Ahora y adelante voy a leer tu articulos, vale.
Por cierto : “local dishes” , jejejeje me gustaria esas! y entoces me mola intentar el tobacco de Columbia.
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Here you can taste beside local girls: Ajiaco, Bandeja Paisa, Chiguiro, Fritanga, Carne a la Llanera, Empanadas de Cangrejo…also the tobacco is good but not as good as a cuban cigar.
Sigue estudiando español y pronto puedes venir, hay varios estadounidenses que han venido y se han quedado por mucho más que las mujeres.
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jejeje, si, Y dire: dame tu numero, y luego antes de entra su vulva: dame tu dinero. Bueno! donde esta la marcha en tu lugar?
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what in heaven’s name is: “pointy elbow syndrome comments “? ?
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It’s from a comment on yesterday’s post on Indiscriminate Alphas:
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[…] completely away from her, and replies “Cause I said” when she asks why she should give him her …read more Source: Chateau […]
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If those guys are good looking, then I’m far more attractive than I thought.
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Dudes are ugly, period. It doesn’t matter what you look like (aside from ridiculous extremes).
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Haters gonna hate. This works. I’ve done it.
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FR —>
Mon-Weds:
My social activity is starting to pick up. I also find myself just talking to people for no reason a lot. It’s pretty subconscious.
For example, on Tuesday I just walked into a group of people at school that I didn’t know so well and started talking to them. Two girls and a guy. One of the girls is a soft 6, the other girl is a hard 6, and the guy is an obvious beta oribter.
Almost immediately, Soft6 starts talking shit about my bluetooth.
‘Hey what is that? That’s weird.’
‘It’s weird? Telephones are strange to you?’
‘No, but it’s like on your neck…what is it?’
‘It’s a bluetooth. Millions of people the world over use them to talk on the phone….I’m actually on it right now.’
‘What? Huh really?’
::smirk:::
(Hard 6 starts to chatter, sort of making fun of the soft6)
Me: Ha, are you guys even friends?
Soft6: No she’s being mean to me right now but it’s because she secretly hates you.
Me: Totally
Soft6 laughs, I turn to the Hard6
Me: I feel kind of robbed that I didn’t even get to do something to make you hate me. I mean, it’d truly be my honor to disappoint you in some way.
Hard6 nods and kind of rolls her eyes
Soft6: Yeah, see, she hates you.
Me: Totally
Soft6: (laughs again) Totally.
The word ‘totally’ (plus a lackadaisical I don’t give a shit smirk) is becoming my go-to ‘when someone says something dickish to me’ response. It has a pretty high defusion rate for me, and most of the time when I use it, they laugh and sort of mirror what I say.
A 4.5 from school opened me ‘blah blah blah you look like a diff person without your glasses, you have nice features.’ So, at first I’m like ‘who even cares?’ But I start to think….well, all girls can serve as social proof, so why not just invest a bit in becoming friendly with the 4.5. She has this ‘tough, entitled latina’ thing going on. So anyway, eventually we’re in a group and she vigorously disagrees with me saying that it’s pretty impossible to put on 50 pounds of muscle in 4 months. She’s loud about it, blah blah blah.
Her: Oh my god, I’m gonna choke the shit out of you — and I could do it (she’s actually probably right…she’s kinda big-framed and chunky lol)
Me: (practically cutting her off, smirk) I’m into it.
(everyone laughs…)
The next day 4.5 is sitting there with two other people. Some guy and a 7. Hurro.
So anyway, 4.5 talks about how that guy who played Bane gained 50 pounds of muscle in 4 months. She tries to get everyone on her side, but I’ve learned my lesson about frame control. Most everyone is against me (lol because they’re retarded mostly), and I’m just like…
Me: We can exist in the world with separate opinions, y’know. Life will go on.
Her: Yeah, well you can’t talk about him like that cause he’s my man.
Me: Ya…stand by your man…
…
and his huge beer gut.
Her: (laughs, leans back) Oh my gaawd, you’re so obnoxious. (I wish it was a better word than obnoxious lol, cause if you’re being charming or whatever don’t they say dick or asshole while laughing?) …have you met HB7 here yet?
Me: Nah
4.5: How have you not met her?
Me: It’s completely plausible that we haven’t met.
4.5: Not really…
Me: Ya, I haven’t met the other 3 billion girls on planet earth either though.
(7 and me introduce ourselves, talk a little bit…then we realize that we’re in several similar social circles)
Me: (to 7) Man, how have we not met one another? (smirk)
4.5: That’s what I just said!
Me: Ya but I said it.
(I leave like 10 seconds after this to go hang out with some friends I spot. I’m starting to do this more. Like if I get the group to a decent fun state and I feel like I’m gonna run out of cool stuff to say or do, I’ll just leave. At least in a social setting)
Thursday:
Time for me and Nightly to go out. We’re starting to get a feel for where to go on which days of the week, but we still occasionally make poor choices. Yesterday we chose a poor area of town to troll around in. I’m out of it.
We get to the first venue, I go to the bathroom. When I come out, Nightly says he’s already opened a set. It’s my turn. I turn and open a mixed set — guy and girl. The girl’s a hard 5. I open the guy and act as though me and Nightly are having a spirited discussion. ‘Do best friends lie to one another?’ is the opener.
The guy is open to it and receptive, and I primarily address him. I give him the spiel about best friend dating a girl I was with a few months ago and whether I should tell him. Sparks some discussion. I realize quickly that I’m not moving off the opener. Internal resistance to the gimmicky ‘are you a hairdresser?’
Nightly rolls in, he tries to engage the guy by saying ‘yeah, I bet you always have girls fighting over you, of course you have good advice.’
But I stall out and never transition. So sayonara and nice meeting you to the set.
Nightly is like ‘wtf, transition man.’ I’m like ‘yeah, I know…I’m just not feeling so congruent with what canned transitions I have.’
Next set Nightly opens is jealous ex-gf…the two girls are a 4.5 fat and a 5 blonde. I just kinda stand there and go with the flow. We leave soon enough.
We go to a weird, crappy club next (a real dearth of targets in this area of town). I see a black girl with green eyes who’s like a 7. She walks back from the dancefloor and we make eye contact. I say nothing (pours some out for his chodies). Nightly is like ‘you fucked up right there.’ I shrug…we move on.
We finally get to the last venue (keep in mind that we’ve been walking around the entire area trying to find decent sets to approach. Like, they’re all either oldies or hideous. Dregs)
Nightly opens a set of girls while I’m in the bathroom again, and I come back. Jealous ex girlfriend routine. We talk for a few minutes, then they say they have to go. Hey, nice meeting you guys. We hear that they closed a certain part of the venue off for one reason or another. Nightly is like, ‘let’s go investigate…’
Sure. I follow Nightly, and then I see two women. At range, it looks like a solid 9 and 8 just sitting there. So I just walk by, at a good angle, and just say ‘hey, were you guys here when they closed that section of the bar down?’
Now that I’m closer, I realize that I’m looking at an 8.5 and a 6.5 who WERE a 9 and an 8 7-10 years ago.
Here’s what I remember about the interaction. Nightly came in and started talking. We ran the ‘who’s the crazy one’ routine. They ask us questions and engage us in conversation. I figure that this must be mostly Nightly, but the 8.5 looks at me directly when she’s talking most of the time. There’s just something about this girl that intimidates the hell out of me. I can’t figure out what it is. She talks about her sinus meds, and I kind of tease her about partying hardcore on the sudafed. They ask us what we do, we tell them we’re in law, 8.5 says to me that her ex was in law and that we’re not going to get along. I smile…’totally.’ But then she says she’s just kidding.
So the 8.5 and her friend commiserate for a second. I figure that she’s sleepy/sick and wants to go home. I’m cool with it, at least I’ve talked to the hottest girl in the venue, right? It’s already pretty late. Then, she turns and looks at me. ‘well we’re gonna go to X bar, you guys wanna come with us? It’s too loud in here.’
This has never happened before. Me and Nightly look at one another. ‘Ya sure, that’s fine.’
So we go there, and I’m brave enough to sit myself by the 8.5 while Nightly sits next to the 6.5. The 8.5 is pretty striking. Like, it’s hard to explain…sure, she’s faded to an 8.5 over time, but her eyes and features still, idk. The bar next door (lower lighting) makes her look 23 again. Even weathered beauty is still beauty. Long story short — I shut down. I just kind of sit there. I engage in conversation only to the extent that I smile and laugh when Nightly says something funny. 8.5 looks on fb on her phone…I timidly try a ‘hey, I have a phone too. I text on it all the time.’ Where that usually gets a reaction, from her it just kind of gets a puzzled look.
lol.
Then she’s like ‘full disclosure actually, I know I said we were both divorced, but her husband killed himself a few years ago…and we all used have threesomes together.’
I half listen to what she says because in closer proximity her features are awesum and her eyes are intense.
‘oh…totally.’
‘No, I’m not kidding.’
‘Yeah, I know. Sounds rad.’
Mentally kick myself. WTF man.
Where am I? Am I in comfort? Am I still trying to attract? Qualify? What is going on in this goddamned set?
I just decide to try and be as honest as I can about things.
She talks about how she left and that sometimes you just have to cut the cord on things, despite what society says.
I say some stupid (but honest….honestly beta) thing about connections between people being so rare that it’s just hard to let it go or accept when it’s gone.
Basically, she’s more free-spirited than I am and I’m conservative, and I’m honest about it. Her reactions to it seem neutral, lol. I dunno.
She lets drop that she’s a model….o rly?
I’m just like ‘that’s cool.’
She talks about how she wants to do things for passion and whatnot, I just listen for awhile.
Eventually we discover we have the same astrological sign and birthday. I tell her that Michael Jordan shares our birthday. Her comeback?
‘Yeah I know, actually a few years ago I was one of the models at his birthday! Look at this pic I have with him….’
Mentally I’m loling…like ‘i’m not ready for this shit, wtf…’
She starts showing me pics of her and her friend with DJ AM before he died, her at parties with several well-known bands. It’s retarded. She just keeps showing me all these pics and I’m just like ‘yeah, that’s cool man.’
Nightly is running a good set over there with the ‘obstacle’ who is pretty cute. He asks for her number, he gets it. They say they’ll come to his birthday party in a few weeks. I ask for nothing, I just….phew man. Anyway, eventually they leave…it’s almost 5 in the morning.
So……I think I have to learn more about comfort. I guess? I don’t really know where I was. Ha, I walked into that set expecting to get blown out, and then when the possibility of true success appeared…I just kind of blew it. Oh well, next time.
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man,, this video was awesome. i´d love to do the same. even if all the chiks said no… i would love to be able to go at it and do this. does any body has a tip or trick to push the mind into doing this=?? i have had a few scores with women i had been introduced to, or that belong to my social circle.
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lol this technique has Jezzie Fattie Lindsey West’s approval:
http://m.jezebel.com/5986058/have-you-this-put-your-number-in-my-phone-prank
“I can’t believe I’m saying this, but in the scheme of things, this is actually kind of a not-bad way to get asked out.”
I imagine for her ANY way of getting asked out is a not-bad way to get asked out. Someone link the video of her gorging on candy corn Oreos ASAP lol
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The comment section is a feast of fried hamsters.
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Not a bad way, but not as good as dangling a deep-fried bearclaw in front of her insatiable cake hole.
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she actually nails it in her first thought – that guys simply don’t want to talk to girls any longer than necessary to get the job done. we only talk to girls because we have to to get access to their punanis.
but notice that at the end, she still says ‘no. not worth it, bros’.
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“I can’t believe I’m saying this, but in the scheme of things, this is actually kind of a not-bad way to get asked out.”
Sorry fatso, I wouldn’t put my number in your phone.
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Wow, look at everyone here discussing the ins and outs of this maneuver AS IF THE GUY JUST GOT LAID. He got a phone number. That’s it. Anyone who’s done any kind of gaming in the real world knows that getting a phone number does not in any way mean that you get a date. It’s really, really, really not that hard to get a girl to give you her number. If anything, that’s what this video demonstrates. A date or a make-out is a totally different story. Let’s these guys pull an instant date or a make-out and then we can talk about how alpha they are.
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He got at least 15 numbers. Unless he’s a complete AFC one of those leads will eventually end up with a date. It’s a numbers game at the end of the day
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You forget that there are lots of guys that have only gotten 3-4 numbers in their entire lives.
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I will just leave this here, just to show you what a real alpha looks like
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“It”s your life, take a chance” game.
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ooohhhhh man! why didnt you warn me! oh my…..
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the hug she gave him is the hug you give someone whose mother just died.
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Not to mention this (fictional, but what the heck?).
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Just leaving this here
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when she blocks the kiss attempts, she says “I warned you”?! How bad was that dude’s game that she told him much earlier in the night that she wasn’t even going to kiss him?
And to think there are people on this site who claim that game will become useless because it will be universal….
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do you think lazy cad game is better for day game? how about friday night game? I need to go try it out.
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cool i guess but i don’t get why they don’t leave the byu campus, maybe it’s fun to mess with the momos and their number rate is great, but their bang rate is 0. i’m still prolly gonna do this a couple times
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The best one is @1:52 when the guy doesn’t even look her in the eye one bit when talking to her.
It would be interesting to see the flake rate on those girls if they followed up.
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yeah i needed a follow up but that was the best one
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From personal experience, it works better if he looks in her eyes once, briefly, and otherwise look away, rather than look away 100% of the time.
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Hahahaha this is hilariously awesome.
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in my teens i ran “asshole game”. but in reality i wasn’t being an asshole. i was just being assertive. a girl would invite me to her house (i was in high school), and i’d get to her room, and pull my mule it. we’d either fuck, or she’d kick me out. 8 times out of 10, i got laid.
rinse repeat. and these weren’t “sluts” they were your girl next door types.
number closing. YAWN. that’s pretty easy these days. but i’m at a point in my life where wimmin are tangential to my day to day. all game has done has allowed me to “eat” when i get hungry.
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pull out my mule.
fuck my life.
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[…] Lazy Cad Game | Chateau Heartiste […]
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haha i knew this guy who used to go to the apartment complexes near the university, find a house party, walk in like he knew people, and randomly walk up to gals and say “wanna fuck”. hed do this for like 15 minutes.
he got laid every single time. but the last time he got his ass beat bad. so he stopped.
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Vitaly and his balls of iron. I posted this here maybe a week ago, and we see that it’s not only girls who will comply with an alpha demand:
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he he he
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i know right
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I don’t really comment here, but I’m an avid reader of this blog.
I just want to say that I tried this tonight and it worked 100% of the time.
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this crewcut chick talkin bout you heartiste
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interesting
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I rarely give merit to a woman commenting on men’s issues.
It’s like me saying I can relate to child-birth/pregnancy b/c I helped deliver a child.
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well she mentioned our host and 100k hits
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Yeah to the dumb bitch in the video. Shut the fuck up you stupid bitch.
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Dude, shut up, she’s agreeing with us.
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Same here. I don’t know what she has to gain from speaking about men’s issues when she’s a woman. And a few other things too
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i didn’t even watch the video. lol. most of the emails i get are from female readers that want a male perspective on relationships.
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I didn’t watch it either, I was just saying lol
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I watched this video and a few others she’s done.
Holy smokes this woman makes sense. Very insightful analysis of feminism and its negative effects on men, women and society.
It might make sense to actually watch something before rendering an opinion. Otherwise you might look foolish.
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Just watched another video.
She picks apart and utterly obliterates feminist shibboleths in an exceptionally well thought-out and clear manner.
Incredibly important to have a woman saying things like this, especially one who *looks like* a radical feminist.
Her blog: http://owningyourshit.blogspot.com/2012/09/why-do-mras-bring-up-draft.html
Her Twitter: https://twitter.com/girlwriteswhat
Highly recommended.
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She is great. It’s very rare to see a woman who can assess things intelligently.
She looks like a lesbian though, which might be why some men thought she is speaking shit.
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Exactly.
She’s brilliant and she’s on our side.
She get’s it.
To the men who called her a bitch, please watch a video before commenting on it.
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watch it from 2 min mark to 4 min 30 second mark or so
mentions someone we know lol
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Only video of hers I’ve watched, but this shit is legit.
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Han Lockhart 1 week ago
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A lot of women do get pregnant on purpose, preferably with no marriage, because of the help they get from the state. Some women will just keep having kids up to even 4 or 5 to keep the cash coming. I`m talking the WEST here. It`s true, because it`s a guaranteed cash delivery with no Father required.
Wake up.
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author withheld that comment though but its truth
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Got “hey have you seen that put your number in my phone video” after an open last night. At a hipster bar in LA. Gonna do something doubly ironic and start opening with it anyway.
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my boy toffer does that shit
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The takeaway from this, even though the majority of these girls will flake, is that this should be your attitude/body language when asking for a number. If you’ve built up enough rapport beforehand the flake rate of your number closes using this approach will drop dramatically.
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Of course and aspies reading this post should remember the valid principles they’ve read elsewhere on this blog about how this Vitaly character would score best if he followed up with a conversation and instadate. But, for a guy in a hurry in a big city or on a big campus, this video was educational. I am going to do this more often.
The video showed a supposed PUA rule being broken, which is the one about establishing attraction first. I like to see generalized rules being broken.
I met my current sorority sister gf who is less than half my age when I asked her directions on the street with similar outcome independence and she ended up walking me to where I wanted to go and asking me if I wanted her number after a 3 minute conversation. There was less likelihood of flaking after that.
I just broke a PUA rule on Friday and profited well. You know the one about not complimenting women on their Facebook photos? Well, that may apply to not liking their photos or commenting publicly, but
I had what I thought was a mousy teenage girl in my friends list when I noticed on Friday that she had physically matured in the last two years. Her new photos were professionally done and showed what would be considered close to a 10 on this board. She’d just turned 19.
I wrote a private message to her like this “Hey Jenny, did you see the latest episode of [horror series]? BTW, your new photos are outrageous. Is that you?”
My phone rang within minutes. I said I’d be home in an hour and cook her pork chops and apple sauce (flouting another PUA rule about not doing women’s work). She complied. Then I required with her brazen request to get into bed, which hadn’t been part of her personality when I knew her earlier three years before.
She told me that a dozen men had liked her photos or publicly praised them, but I was the only one who wrote to her privately as a friend, telling her that the photos had a positive effect on me.
PUA theory is clearly not for aspies.
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its a numbers game, loads of flakes. that is a good thing. were living the city life, fresh pussy lies just around the corner.
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went out and talked to a bunch of people today.
at mcds in morning and was some college kids dudes looked somewhat normal but the chicks were deformed looking to an extreme one made me pray to god for her soul and it looked like she had a dude.
went to mall saw more freaks of nature thinking that my former chick worth millions in this type of atmosphere
still talked to people old woman were the most interested and gave most ioi’s lol
still i got a job offer in fracturing outside smoking
lady was waiting on son and stepped closer to me while talking but not really my type
hottest chicks were the ones that were doing some sort of business expo shit and talked to all of them some they lit up some when i walked up
got my cock licked got another ho’s number after
then coming home saw my former chick on corner by my house stopped said whats up
we talked for sec
went home talked to my sister cross street
done former chick still standing there went over she came to house cleaned my shit up cuddled a little bit told her i was rooting for her she said i pushed her away i guess i had to agree.
said husband said if she is with me he will leave with kids cause he knows when she with me she only with me
she jumped on me playin i didn’t fuck her
i guess if a chick is not gonna fuck other dudes it has to come from her ya can’t really just tell em not to do it on that one i suppose
said she still waiting on loot gtfo lol
crazy bitch he he he
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said she made 280 bucks today where is the equal pay for equal work meme on that one
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Yep, phone numbers are easy. But they’re harder to acquire than nothing. They mean more than air. They have more potential than polite hello’s. You gotta start somewhere champ. Bitching that phone numbers are easy or that the takes are selective or that you’re not good-looking enough to tango will not get you any closer to the prize. It will only feed your need for denial.
Meanwhile, the roadmap to pretty young poos is there for the taking. You just gotta… grab it.
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yea that was a good pep talk only prob is gonna be the marriage offers and babies oh well figure it out
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chick said husband kissing her ass like never before painted her toenails
yea massaging her leg with oil she said wo wo when he got near the putty she said my putty doesn’t need massaged.
umm if that was true which prob not who the fuck knows
this chick could definetly make a dude insane if he fell into her frame
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Reblogged this on John Khuc and commented:
That’s jerkboy charisma.
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[…] let me leave you with this hilarious video taken from Heartiste’s Blog. Game doesn’t get easier than this […]
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Man, this is legit as hell. I am definately going to try this.
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This takes place at BYU from the looks of it, so the sample is a bit skewed. These are mormon chicks in a relatively religiously homogenous environment. This means that anyone who shows enough interest to ‘surprise ask for your phone number’ is doing so at potentially significant reputational costs, so for them, this is a much higher-value signal of commitment than it would be on the street in a major american city. Once they realize that the number-getter is an outsider and not a mormon, expect this to be either very short term, or peter out completely.
tldr, the lesson is sound, but there is some artificiality here.
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Girl Writes What is clearly among the most intelligent and articulate folks on the Internet. In some respects, she is sort of a freak of nature. I mean, she proved she has 2 X chromosomes by birthing babies yet she obviously understands the meaning of the effects of taking the Red Pill better than … just about anyone. Anyone at all.
I have two questions:
Why did end up waiting tables for a living? She should be a Law Professor.
Can we see her tits?
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[…] https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/02/22/lazy-cad-game/ […]
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This is a pretty good video and should motivate more men to not be afraid approaching women. Now, as Chateau pointed out in his post, these probably are the best takes and given they are good looking men, they have it easier.
I want to point out that the context-a college campus, also makes it much easier to achieve what they did. Doing this to random women on a street will most likely get less results. My point is-game is contextual. This has been pointed out many times by others.
Good luck all, and let your conquest begin!
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[…] That actually works? Related: 100 different openers. I’m probably gonna pick it up. Related: Foot-in-door […]
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There’s no question that game works, we’ve seen piles of studies that show it on this site alone. Question is, does *this* game work? Off the cuff, it does seem like it would work for some folks, and I love the ballsy approach. Still, success is not measured by how many numbers they scored or their supposed 25% rejection rate. Rather the determination of game success or failure is made by the counting of follow ups. Was there a meet up or even a conversation on the phone? Not saying it doesn’t work, just saying more information is required to make that determination.
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