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Reviving Girls

February 25, 2013 by CH

Forget about “opening sets”. Thinking in those terms produces a now or never mentality that is toxic to the proper cultivation of inner game, aka sustained overconfidence. A little bit of pressure is necessary to motivate oneself out of a comfort zone or lazy habit, but too much pressure will fray the smooth, self-assured delivery that is the lifeblood which oxygenates any seduction.

Plus, “opening” implies a continual search for opportunity. When opportunity presents, you pounce. When there is no opportunity, you remain unengaged. Categorizing girls into tiers of opportunity encourages the empowerment of multiple, and usually contradictory, modes of thought and behavior in oneself, which will spill over and pollute your tight game when you need it most. For instance, if you are a cold, unresponsive statue or a dull chit chatter when in the company of taken girls or less attractive girls, then the radical attitudinal shift you will have to muster when you “turn it on” in the company of girls who are available and attractive will seem of outsized difficulty, and you will have burned out before you’ve said one word.

The one mode of thinking will infect the other mode of thinking. To build a better man, you must jettison the ballast of the lesser man.

You must begin substituting the idea of opening sets, or opening in general, with the idea of “reviving” girls. You are reviving them from their slumber of sleepwalking through a world filled with bland beta males. You are reminding them what it is like to interact with a man who knows how to speak to them in the way they primally crave to be spoken to: flirtatiously, cavalierly, confidently, sexily.

In this reality, every girl you meet has come pre-opened and pre-approved, no matter her actual status as a potential lover. You flirt with all of them, because the world’s girls are yours to enjoy, and opportunity for sexual closure is relegated to a more manageable role as a happy coincidence to the goal of improved communication with the opposite sex.

This means you game — i.e., flirt and tease and generally parry in a fashion you wouldn’t with your male buddies — low opportunity girls as genuinely as you would high opportunity girls. Does she have a boyfriend? Is there a ring on her finger? Is she a bit too old for your taste? Is there a kid in tow? Is she a lawyer? Is she not your type? Doesn’t matter. You flirt with those women like you would with single women you really desire. This process builds a base of intuitive and instinctual game that cements in your brain until you don’t need to invoke a separate personality every time you square off with a legitimately high opportunity girl. It also helps to relieve the pressure when a real prospect does come along, because the alpha attitude — aka JERKBOY CHARISMA — will be second-nature to you.

As with all general rules, there are exceptions. Don’t go overboard flirting with every fug you meet. There are two problems with being so indiscriminate with your flirtatious charms. One, some of the fugs will become a little too eager to spin your light flirting into a green light to jump your bones. The less perspicacious of the fugs will have to be put down with swift and deadly force, like you would a charging rhino, and that could leave you with a bad feeling if you’re a nice guy at heart.

Two, an undue reliance on fugs to sharpen your seductive mien is more liable to dull your edge and get you stuck in a fug rut. Nobody likes getting stuck in fugruts, least of all pick-up newbies who are the kinds of men who would get stuck there and stay there, spiraling downward into an abyss of self-loathing and doubts about ever winning the love of better women. You’re a flirting cad machine, but you’re not the sloppy town man ho. Rein it in a bit when the girl is so ugly you can’t stop the smelling-poop look of disgust from materializing on your face.

Revive girls. Coax their inner sex demoness out into the world. Flirt with those taken 5s like you would those single 8s. You may be surprised to find that the ease and self-control with which you dazzle the 5s is unfailingly there to serve you when the time comes to blow the doors off the hottie 8s.

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  1. on February 25, 2013 at 1:42 pm David AlexOrher

    Excellence is a habit. And habits shape our destiny.

    Long Live the Dark Lord H.

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    • on February 25, 2013 at 9:37 pm PetiteOlive

      But why does the dark lord hate all female lawyers (read the “what her job says…” post…we are really not all that bad 😦

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      • on February 26, 2013 at 12:08 am Anonymous

        Because lawyers are not creators.

        Lawyers are destroyers.

        The sooner America learns that, the better.

        P.S. I can attest though that you do fvck like steam engines. I guess the hate helps. Gawblessya.

        ∞

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      • on February 26, 2013 at 11:54 am Rick Derris

        >>Lawyers are destroyers.

        I have to play devil’s advocate and make a minor disagreement. Having a good attorney can really help you from getting screwed by somebody else. I don’t know how many times I’ve seen people sign contracts without reading them or “relying on a handshake” to do business before getting hosed. Always get it in writing!

        That being said, litigators and attorneys who practice in bullshit fields like “class action suits” really are destroying the fabric of the country. Thankfully law school admissions are on the decline as recent grads are realizing that going $200k into debt for delaying unemployment for 3 years simply isn’t worth it. Now If only the legislatures would stop passing so many stupid laws, and if administrative agencies would stop with the damn regulations 😦

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      • on February 26, 2013 at 2:00 pm PetiteOlive

        Yea, I agree with everything you said. It is funny how lawyers get stereotyped a lot. Not all of us as “ballers” or “status whores”. Not all of us will sell our soul for a quick buck. A lot of female lawyers (myself include) do possess more masculine alpha traits (ambition, competitiveness, coldness) which can be very unattractive for a woman….I get that. But these traits are more a result of priming through school and environment as opposed to some inherent “evil” need to emasculate men. Believe it or not, we still want to submit to a man…infact, I’d say its a fantasy of many.

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      • on February 26, 2013 at 7:39 pm Anonymous

        I have worked with lawyers that were excellent and a credit to their profession. And some of these folks have gotten things to go my way when those things might have otherwise gone against me.

        But my default position, and especially as regards litigators as mentioned above, is that lawyers are to be avoided and considered dangerous. Very dangerous.

        ∞

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      • on February 26, 2013 at 12:53 pm Dr. Zoidberg

        Lawyers exist to clean up the messes of really fucking stupid people who do dumb shit, i.e. our clients. I don’t think you realize how insane people get over small squibbles. I regularly talk myself out of work by telling potential clients to either a.) just talk it out with the other person or b.) just forget about the small pittance of money you are worked up over and get back to your life. When I’m not doing that I’m helping people and businesses plan for taxes and/or closing estates when people die.

        This country would descend into chaos if lawyers weren’t around.

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      • on February 26, 2013 at 2:03 pm PetiteOlive

        Alternative dispute resolution and/or mediation seems to be the route a lot of lawyers/firms are taking now. Like you duly noted. Most people though still have the image of the lawyer litigating in the court-room being all “dramatic”. It is often not the case in real life.

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      • on February 26, 2013 at 2:58 pm Tyrone

        Because female lawyers have made it their mission to become the vanguard of feminism and have devised ever more creative new ways of throwing men in prison for ever more creatively redefined charges of 1) rape 2) Domestic violence 3) eliminating a mens’ parental rights and 4) ever more ridiculous financial settlements in divorce. I see myself as an object of plunder for the Sisterhood and the Combine as a result of your profession’s efforts. You suffer because of the sins of the sisterhood. Otherwise, what’s not to love.

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      • on February 26, 2013 at 6:37 pm Lily

        Until you need an attorney, or if you lost the case and feel slighted, all attorneys are the devil incarnate. Conversely, once you need an attorney, he becomes your bosom buddy – there is no question about it. Cool it with the anti-lawyer rhetoric.

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      • on February 26, 2013 at 7:41 pm Anonymous

        “VAWA”. Enough said.

        One of Biden’s greatest hits, to hear him tell it.

        ∞

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      • on February 27, 2013 at 11:16 am Tyrone

        Restore my civil rights and I’ll think about it. Until then, you’re the enemy. Why do I need an attorney? Because we are now by far the most litigious society in history. Why are we the most litigious society in history? Because it benefits the legal profession and creates lots of jobs for lawyers. There is an inherent conflict of interest created by having those who write and administer the law be the same ones who litigate it.

        This has reached the point where we have the largest prison population in the world, excessive legal regulation and overly complex laws designed to encourage litigation in the first place. it is estimated that excessive litigation causes the US several trillion dollars a year in lost economic growth. It is mroe profitable to lobby Congress for special favors than it is to invent new products or serviecs. Entrepreneurs no longer attempt to implement good ideas because of the legal and regulatory road blocks they likely have to face. Industry has moved offshore to avoid the HR litigation like AA and Sexual harrassment making America less competitive as a business environment. America’s legal costs and denisty of lawyers per 100,000 of population is 3 times higher than the next highest nation- Japan. We used to rank in the top 5, now we’ve dropped into the lower 20s in terms of ease of doing business, all due to our litigious society.

        When the average American commits 3 felonies a day, as the book title says, we have a major problem. I like many lawyers individually, but as a profession, you are corrupt and have become a force for doing evil in this nation. I’ll make nice when I’m no longer a second class citizen as a man in this nation. Given the growing dominance of women in the legal profession, I expect this trend to grow worse as I age. So no, Lily, I will not eat your shit sandwich and pretend it was tasty.

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      • on March 1, 2013 at 10:41 am nonymous

        It;s like if a buddy and I run a con game where he screws the mark and I “save” the mark from my buddy

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  2. on February 25, 2013 at 1:59 pm Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh

    I like your reframing, Heartiste. These zombie broads need to be revived with my figurative fuck stick before they get the literal one.

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  3. on February 25, 2013 at 2:08 pm Harry Morgan

    A.B.C.

    A always

    B be

    C Charming

    Always Be Charming.

    PUT THAT COFFEE DOWN. Coffee, is for charmers.

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    • on February 25, 2013 at 2:21 pm The Karamazov Idea

      Every time I find myself underachieving in life, I watch that scene.

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    • on February 25, 2013 at 5:11 pm josh

      put that tit down. Tit is for closers.

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    • on February 25, 2013 at 7:12 pm taterearl

      The good news is you’re fired.

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      • on February 25, 2013 at 11:36 pm Anonymous

        My favorite line of the move, taterearl.

        Get them to sign on the line which is dotted.

        Alec Baldwin actually did one good thing in his life, and that five minute performance was it.

        You can’t close sh¡t, you ARE sh¡t. Hit the bricks pal and beat it, ’cause you are going OUT.

        ∞

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  4. on February 25, 2013 at 2:14 pm corvinus

    In other words, practice flirting with your attractive taken female friends, but still keep the fat fugs at arm’s length.

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  5. on February 25, 2013 at 2:26 pm Kate

    The soundtrack of many a woman’s mind:

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    • on February 25, 2013 at 3:49 pm q

      Oh, I love it.

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    • on February 25, 2013 at 11:54 pm Anonymous

      I think that this is accurate, that most people look for someone to “wake them”. I have literally had this very conversation with a woman or two.

      But a woman should not expect that they will be/can be/must be the only recipient of this – if the woman does not wake something in the man as well, why would the man stay with that woman, unless he was a deluded White Knight?

      Both sides need to receive the ZOOM from the other party… the force that through the green fuse drives the flower… the IMPETUS. Otherwise, it doesn’t work and is at best self-delusion, and at worst a sad form of time-wasting masturbation.

      P.S. I never liked the “save me” part of this song. Save your own damn self (me included). But I do dig the song.

      ∞

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      • on February 26, 2013 at 8:50 am Kate

        I understand that, but not all women are self-starters. None of us are fully “activated” without men.

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      • on February 26, 2013 at 11:13 pm Starets

        Anonymous with the infinity sign, you should get yourself a screen name for comments. Assuming it is the same commenter with the infinity sign, your comments are often interesting and well thought out. A handle would make it easier for readers to keep them separate from the various other anonymi. Just a suggestion though.

        To reply to your comment; yeah, there is a female version of charisma, different from male charisma. I’ve known a few women who had it, and independant of their looks, they could send that ZOOM into you when talking to them. The ones that really had it could zap an entire room.

        I guess the male version of it is much of what the game naturals have.

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      • on February 27, 2013 at 10:27 pm Anonymous

        I intentionally do not have a handle, because I work in an industry filled with people that have the smarts to find my digital footprints, and I do not want them to do so.

        ∞

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      • on February 28, 2013 at 11:33 pm Starets

        Fair enough. I was just thinking that there are a couple of anonymi, yourself included, that write some good comments. I often find I pass over them while scanning the thread; but of course real life considerations far outweigh such matters.

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  6. on February 25, 2013 at 2:34 pm Amanjaw Marcuntte

    In international Alpha news, Silvio Berlusconi poses with a shit-eating grin that appears to encapsulate years of CH teachings in a single picture.

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    • on February 25, 2013 at 5:44 pm Ulf Elfvin

      @ Amanjaw Marcuntte – And an iron determination to saw off the branch he is sitting on…

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    • on February 26, 2013 at 12:00 am Anonymous

      Menefreghista. Personified. Lawd love him.

      ∞

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  7. on February 25, 2013 at 2:37 pm John

    Maybe the women of the chateau can chime in on this as well…what is the usual amount of female jealousy in a relationship? Been dating a solid 9 for about a month. Absolutely intense, mind blowing stuff going on here. Can’t keep our hands off each other. I ignore her attempts at making me jealous but she gets very emotional over the smallest infraction on my part. Texts me things like “Have fun hitting on other girls”, calls me a flirt, player etc. (even though I stopped seeing other girls because I dig her). Is this just a shit test? I’m not actively pursuing other women, but can’t help that if I’m out with friends we usually end up gaming girls. She also told me that I “talk about other girls a lot” which I guess I hadn’t noticed. Main question being, is this just normal behavior?

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    • on February 25, 2013 at 2:43 pm Adam

      She’s most likely fucking other cocks and projecting her whoredom onto you.

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      • on February 25, 2013 at 2:58 pm John

        Nah

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      • on February 25, 2013 at 3:11 pm gunslingergregi

        enjoy that shit bro

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      • on February 25, 2013 at 3:26 pm gunslingergregi

        i’m getting hot flashes and seeing white light sometimes when i think of my former one part of a twoitis lol but so far have maintained and not fucked her

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      • on February 25, 2013 at 3:30 pm gunslingergregi

        she called me like fucking 20 times yesterday when i was with another chick i even picked her up with that other chick in car then dropped her off without doing shit and then she was calling mode
        but yea so uhh she didn’t call thirty times before that lol
        bitches love drama and jealousy

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      • on February 25, 2013 at 3:36 pm gunslingergregi

        one month she trying to make you jealous and it is that good i mean my first wife stopped fucking other dudes after two weeks and she was a freaking hooker lol
        i guess define trying to make you jealous

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      • on February 25, 2013 at 4:02 pm John

        Just the typical female ploys…showing me messages dudes send her on facebook, telling me she got asked out by some other dude, etc. lol she tried to reverse engineer my banging history by going through years of posts by other girls on my facebook wall

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      • on February 25, 2013 at 4:15 pm gunslingergregi

        she tried to reverse engineer my banging history by going through years of posts by other girls on my facebook wall”””””

        sweet he he he

        ””””John

        Just the typical female ploys…showing me messages dudes send her on facebook, telling me she got asked out by some other dude, etc.
        ”””””””’
        yea but doesn’t want you seeing other chicks
        i don’t know i kicked mine out for trying to play games as such among other reasons let her go try it out if that is the inclination right but yea she was trying to get me back for some supposed talking to bitches online but she knows if i want to fuck another chick i would tell her little bit further along
        first month though who knows
        she might be psycho but hey the ride will be fun

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    • on February 25, 2013 at 2:53 pm AlphaBeta

      “even though I stopped seeing other girls because I dig her”

      After a month?

      Oneitis. If you have one in the chamber, always keep (at least) two in the mag

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    • on February 25, 2013 at 3:07 pm bosslife

      No matter what the intentions or her motives are. Just remember the golden rule ‘agree and amplify’

      ‘Youre gonna go flirt with other girls’ you reply ‘Yes, the harem requires some tending to’

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      • on February 25, 2013 at 3:26 pm JS

        Actually, I don’t think we need the amplify anymore. She says “You’re going to go flirt with the other girls” you reply “yes.”

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      • on February 25, 2013 at 3:43 pm bosslife

        Well, I don’t know about killing 50% of the strategy. The amplify is what conveys that youre not taking her queries seriously.

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      • on February 25, 2013 at 10:53 pm Sean

        I definitely agree with you bosslife. I may even steal “yes, the harem requires some tending to”.

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    • on February 25, 2013 at 3:24 pm immoralgables

      Here is a short answer and tactic that will help you John.

      Agree and amplify. Before we go further, the fact that you’re legit concerned shows that you’re reacting to her and shame on you for taking her so seriously ;o)

      When she says have fun hitting on other girls:

      “Thanks babe! I’ll make sure to call you when me and random girl #3 for the night are having sex”

      “All the girls I will be hitting on tonight will be done for charity and each will be making a donation to my favorite foundation”

      “Great I’m glad we’re on the same page. I’ll call it a night after girl #100. See you soon, toots.”

      You get the idea. Mix and match your own responses but the takeaway is that by mocking and exaggerating her premise, she realizes that you’re not taken her seriously and you avoid falling into her frame.

      Relax John, employ this in light doses and report back but most of all remember two things:

      1) competition will make her heart grow fonder so you’re good.

      2) don’t be afraid to not take her protests seriously. Learn how to respond with wit as I’ve seen many friends (myself included) have their lifestyles curtailed at the fear of pissing off “wifey”. Resist now thru agree and amplify and it will help you out in the future.

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      • on February 25, 2013 at 4:14 pm John

        thx, I do use this technique but its been met with differing results. I get a lot of playful “i hate you” texts which is all well and good, but in person usually when I’m about to leave its “I can’t take you seriously” “I’m not sure if I trust you”

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      • on February 25, 2013 at 5:12 pm bosslife

        Well like CH proposes sometimes, a girl has to know that the player is attainable. So you can’t hit her with non-stop backhanded, double meaning, amplified shit 24/7.

        You gotta eventually throttle it a bit, give her some sweetness a little reassurance goes a long way with chicks. For every 3 displays of affection from her, gets 1 from you.

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      • on February 25, 2013 at 5:51 pm Ulf Elfvin

        @ John – “I’m not sure if I trust you”

        Don’t reply right away. Then find a reason to approach her from behind, put your hands on her shoulders and whisper in her ear, “You can’t…”

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      • on February 25, 2013 at 6:48 pm josh

        Sounds like james bond…

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      • on February 26, 2013 at 12:37 am Anonymous

        Hmmm…. “hand on shoulder”. You are clearly an elder in the ways of human hypnotism. Now, and here’s the question that nets you all the points, which ear, left or right? Heheh… evil mind control question….

        ∞

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      • on February 26, 2013 at 1:55 pm Mike in Texas

        This is the perfect response to that train of thought from a woman trying to play her games with your head. Nice!

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      • on February 26, 2013 at 12:22 am immoralgables

        Hey man I would like to help you more but my experiences haven’t taken me beyond your position so in unqualified to give you more advice.

        I may suggest blackdragon PUAs blog. He is well respected in the field and he has a focus on relationship management. Hopefully these articles can help:

        http://www.pua-zone.com/showthread.php?2929-How-to-have-a-100-DRAMA-FREE-Relationship&p=25144&viewfull=1#post25144

        http://www.pua-zone.com/showthread.php?5492-How-To-Soft-Next-Step-by-step-instructions-and-answers-to-questions

        http://puarticles.blogspot.ca/2008/01/relationship-rules.html?m=0

        http://www.pua-zone.com/showthread.php?3451-Textbook-clean-LTSNFE

        Best of luck to you and hopefully some of the more senior commenters can help out.

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      • on February 26, 2013 at 1:36 am Anonymous

        She’s cheating on you dude. Bros ex wife did the same shit for 12 years. Come to find out she was fucking other dudes the whole time. They will always accuse you of what they are guilty of. Pump and dump

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    • on February 25, 2013 at 3:56 pm itsme

      if you’re not marrying her, you don’t need to stop seeing other girls.

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    • on February 25, 2013 at 7:01 pm Kate

      What is normal? It means she really digs you. If she’s normally a cool chick, these are just signs she’s losing it over you because all women know these things are a total no no. Its easy to be calm, cool, and collected for someone you’re lukewarm about. But, if you’re on fire, that’s another story. I do agree not to overplay it. Give assurance once in a while.

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    • on February 25, 2013 at 9:05 pm Lily

      “I ignore her attempts at making me jealous but she gets very emotional over the smallest infraction on my part. Texts me things like “Have fun hitting on other girls”, calls me a flirt, player etc. (even though I stopped seeing other girls because I dig her). Is this just a shit test? “

      John, since making you jealous didn’t work out like she hoped, she is trying to make you feel guilty by saying things like have fun with other girl, blah, blah, blah….She is merely trying to get a reaction from you – anything.
      .
      She is actually trying to get you to reassure her. She wants you to say something along the lines of “I have only eyes for you’, or ‘I’m not interested in anyone but you’, etc…

      “Main question being, is this just normal behavior?”

      Very normal. You can try to alleviate her worries by telling her you’re not interested in anyone else, and that you’re just helping your buddies score. But why do that? You’re gaming her, aren’t you? Don’t let her see you jealous either. It’s just a game she is playing. She couldn’t care less about other men. She is only trying to ascertain you care. Jealousy implies you care.

      That said, if you do want to throw her a little bone, one quick streak of jealousy would satisfy her and prove to her that you care. You can do that once and quickly when she tries to make you jealous. That should tie her over for a while, until her beast needs feeding again. Then, you can throw her a little bone again. Moderation is the name of the game. Don’t give her too much reassurance.

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      • on February 25, 2013 at 9:59 pm kateLily

        see how these women chateau readers have started thinking like men! I have a feeling pre CH, they will be advising him to be really nice to her.

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      • on February 26, 2013 at 12:01 am Lily

        Haha….I like the combination name. It’s funny.

        “see how these women chateau readers have started thinking like men!”

        Never. Women know this instinctively, but they have been brainwashed by feminists with mambo jumbo bullshit. Some of us played similar games on guys.

        My advice for women is never show him you’re jealous. You’re just playing into his hand, even if he is a beta. And, if he’s a bit of a player, you should continue flirting with others in his presence, but lightly and gently (bordering on courtesy and friendliness, more than actually flirting) – just so he can see that other men find you attractive, and might be interested in you if you were single. Otherwise, you’re not enough of a challenge, and he’ll step all over you. CH says he’s not interested in a girl that flirts, but I guarantee that if he were into her and she did flirt with class, and was a classy girl, he couldn’t resist, despite acting angry or annoyed.

        This girl is an idiot and so transparent. At least if she wants to find out about him why make it so obvious so that he can see her inner turmoil? It destroys her allure in his eyes. A little less reaction from a girl can go a long way.

        A woman should always assume he is not hers, period. As far as she is concerned, if she really wants him, it means she has to keep up the allure – look hot every time he sees her, and not tell him everything on her mind, unless its solicited and it’s genuinely coming from him. Familiarity breeds contempt after a while. Many couples separate because too much familiarity dissipates the charm/magic/allure/attraction. Sexual relationships shouldn’t be too familiar. I can see this girl getting on his nerves after a while.

        Look what he says in his next comment:

        “she tried to reverse engineer my banging history by going through years of posts by other girls on my facebook wall”

        The woman is on a fishing expedition. When she violates his personal space (even though it’s open for inspection) without his permission, it’s not cool. She is taking liberties thinking she owns him. He must not be gamming her hard enough.

        “showing me messages dudes send her on facebook, telling me she got asked out by some other dude, etc. “

        He will devastate her if he tells her nonchalantly she should take the dude up on it. It might start a fight, but she might never say this again after the dust settles.

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      • on February 26, 2013 at 2:26 pm James

        ” you should continue flirting with others in his presence, but lightly and gently (bordering on courtesy and friendliness, more than actually flirting) – just so he can see that other men find you attractive, and might be interested in you if you were single. ”

        totally wrong. preselection is a one-way attraction trigger. This will only piss your guy off if done brazenly, and eat at him if done subtly.

        But girls who don’t want to be seen as wife material should by all means follow your advice here.

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      • on February 26, 2013 at 4:02 pm Lily

        “But girls who don’t want to be seen as wife material should by all means follow your advice here.”

        You want it all too easy, don’t you? And….when you get all that you want, what will be then? I know, you’ll dump the girl.

        Any woman that gives her guy 100% of what he wants without taking anything in return, is a fool. So her flirting subtly is a small price to pay for the guy. It just showcases her attractiveness to other guys, nothing more. It doesn’t means she is sleeping around or is interested in sleeping around.

        Also, remember I said a classy girl. A classy girl can get away with it, while a slut can’t do anything without it being construed as cheap, and rightfully so.

        “This will only piss your guy off if done brazenly, and eat at him if done subtly.”

        Which is why I said subtly, and in respect to a classy girl. This especially works if he is flirting, since it looks like she isn’t jealous. I don’t mean that she should just start flirting out of the blue when her man is focusing on her completely. It’s inappropriate and rude. But if he is busy socializing around her with other girls, instead of showing she is worried or upset, just take it easy, have a good time, and socialize too just don’t overdo it. I dislike people who can’t have a good time and fit themselves to a situation. This is really what I’m getting at.

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      • on February 26, 2013 at 1:33 am Creo

        Yeah, i noticed that too..women with game hmmmm. sounds dangerous..I had a girlfriend like that .

        Example: After giving her a nice long good massage she’d always say to me, “That’s it?!” with a sneer.
        she was pretty funny… feisty bitch. lol

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      • on February 26, 2013 at 8:52 am Kate

        LOL Its metagame.

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      • on February 26, 2013 at 8:51 am Kate

        pre CH? I didn’t just wander in here off the street 😉

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    • on February 26, 2013 at 4:46 am Johnny Caustic

      No, that degree of jealousy is not “normal” behavior, though not really uncommon. Yes, it’s shit testing and a struggle for dominance.

      Whatever you do, NEVER defend yourself. That’s playing into her frame, which is the WORST thing you can do when a woman is acting crazy. Imagine she’s your four-year-old daughter saying these things: somewhat hilarious, somewhat dumb, not at all to be taken seriously. Don’t tell her you’re not pursuing other women; the question is not worth addressing.

      Ignoring her is often the best tactic. Remember that attention is always a reward to women, whether positive or negative attention, so withdraw attention when she behaves badly. Other times, agree-and-amplify. Her: “Have fun hitting on other girls”; you: “Selena Gomez says hi.” Her: “You’re a player”; you: “So nice of you to notice.”

      If she goes too far or persists in bitchiness/drama for more than a few minutes, I recommend you soft next her: leave immediately and do not communicate with her (not even a single text response!) for at least 3 days. You must resist the urge; any contact will destroy the effect! Then resume contact as if nothing happened. Her behavior will be much improved. Google “soft next” for details.

      It’s awesome to be in that intense new-relationship energy, but you must establish strong boundaries now, or it will be impossible to be the man in the relationship later.

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    • on February 26, 2013 at 8:40 am YaReally

      All she wants to do is see if she can change you. The content of what she’s trying to change and how she’s trying to change it are irrelevant. ie, this formula is going on:

      1) You regularly do X.

      2) She wants to see whether she can make you not do X.

      2a) If you continue to do X, she can trust that no one else can deter you in life and that you’re an oak tree she can trust to handle shit life throws at the two of you.

      2b) If you stop doing X, she knows that a silly little girl can influence you and if she can make you cave, how can she trust that you can handle the rest of the world when she needs you to?

      It doesn’t matter what X is. It could be flirting with other girls (“you’re a player, I can’t trust you”), it could be hanging out with your friends in general (“I don’t like you hanging out with Bob, he parties too much, just stay home with me babe”), it could be hitting the gym daily (“aww baby I love you with a little padding, come cuddle with me instead!” or “Why are you working out so much anyway, is it for your whores?”), it could be watching your diet (“I cooked you a huge meal baby!” or “let’s go out to eat tonight, how come you never want to take me out to restaraunts? Are you ashamed to be seen with me?”), it could be saving your money (“aww let’s go out tonight, how come you’re so cheap all the time? why can’t you treat me nice?”), it could be working on your career (“aww babe I never see you…forget about work today, just come lay down with me, please??”), etc. etc.

      And what happens when you stop flirting with other girls, stop hanging out with your friends, stop hitting the gym, stop watching your diet, stop being financially responsible, stop moving forward in your career, etc.?

      She dumps you. lol

      The content of what’s going on is irrelevant. Look at the underlying formula. As a 9, she HAS to test you, because as a 9 she can influence like 99.9999% of men to supplicate to her, even though she’s subconsciously looking for that 0.0001% of men that will stay rock solid in their beliefs, values, etc.

      Part of why a lot of guys rant about how they’d rather be in a relationship with a low-maintenance/low-drama 7 or 8 than a 9 or 10 is because the 7s and 8s don’t shit-test as hard or as frequently. If you can handle the constant shit-tests, dating a 9 or 10 isn’t a big deal…but it’s more trouble than it’s worth to most guys. There’s no right or wrong here, it all comes down to knowing what you want and what you accept from others and yourself. Shit-tests don’t phase me at all because I’ve been doing this for a long time so I don’t mind the chicks that do it, but to a newbie his first 9 or 10 can be an insane emotional rollercoaster lol

      Use “agree and amplify” when she’s being silly about it. When she’s serious cut her off with a reassuring alpha “Shhh. (grab her, makeout)” like you wouldn’t even entertain the notion that what she’s talking about is relevant to your relationship with her and she shouldn’t either. And if you get stuck in a dramatic conversation where she corners you into having to discuss this, drop a “Don’t be silly. Other girls don’t affect how I feel about you. …unless you get fat. :D” lol maybe leave off the fat part.

      This relationship is where you’re going to solidify your “oak tree that can’t be moved” mindset. This is a skill that’s going to benefit you in many different areas of your life down the road even if it puts you through hell now. 🙂

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      • on February 26, 2013 at 8:55 am YaReally

        Also here’s a link for Soft Next’ing:

        http://www.pua-zone.com/showthread.php?5492-How-To-Soft-Next-Step-by-step-instructions-and-answers-to-questions

        Use it if you end up in a situation where this formula applies:

        1) You tell her you don’t like when she does Y.

        2) She does Y anyway.

        2a) If you Soft Next, she feels the discomfort of losing your attention/validation and she realizes you’re a man who’s rules won’t be crossed and that you respect yourself enough not to subject yourself to people who disrespect you or don’t behave in a way you deem acceptable. Remember that a Soft Next is done with pure calmness, no anger or bitterness. It’s a simple logical “This is the rule, if you don’t want to follow it, that’s fine, there are other girls who will. Come back when you’ve decided to accept my rule.”

        2b) If you allow her to do Y with no punishment, you simply encourage her to push you further to see just how far she can break your rules with no consequence. As you can imagine, this will escalate into a shit-load of drama and shitty behavior and will make your life miserable and ultimately destroy your relationship.

        Remember: She has to know that you don’t approve of her doing Y before you use a Soft Next, otherwise it’s a completely random and confusing punishment that doesn’t accomplish anything.

        So in your case that would be something like cutting her off with a “Shh, no more of this player nonsense. I told you I’m with you, and I don’t date girls who don’t trust me. I’ll see you tonight, wear that little plaid skirt I like.”

        Once you’ve established “Don’t do this anymore.”, if she THEN does it again, that’s when you Soft Next. You have to be willing to risk her but trust in the system/psychology and stick it out the way Blackdragon describes in that post. You may have to Soft Next more than once for the same behavior, it’s fine, it’s like not allowing your kid to eat a bunch of cookies for dinner…they won’t LIKE it, but it’s ultimately for their own good and you shouldn’t feel guilty about it. In your case it’s ultimately for the good of your relationship together because this behavior will destroy it down the road if she continues to do it.

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      • on February 26, 2013 at 11:36 am John

        Thanks, def some good advice. Think she is extra antsy b/c I’m going on a 5 day party cruise soon with friends and fears the worst

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      • on February 26, 2013 at 2:22 pm James

        I think you should be more worried about what she’ll do during that 5 days.

        People most vocally suspicious of their partner’s fidelity are most likely to be cheaters themselves.

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      • on February 26, 2013 at 11:34 pm Johnny Caustic

        The guys who say she’s projecting her own infidelity and can’t be trusted may well be right…

        But I don’t think the solution is to worry. I think the solution is to not expect or ask monogamy from her at all. And don’t give it either. Stick with Blackdragon’s relationship rules for girls like this.

        P.S. I agree with everything YaReally said.

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    • on February 26, 2013 at 3:04 pm Tyrone

      Its both sincere and a shit test. Keep her guessing. Women always need to think you can do better. I use this jealousy to my advantage and keep it going at a low level all the time. You can leverage this emotion for lots and lots of sex.

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  8. on February 25, 2013 at 2:42 pm Adam

    End Of Men: Oscars Edition

    http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/movies/features/2013/oscars_2013_awards/oscars_recap_forget_seth_macfarlane_s_sexist_jokes_this_was_the_end_of_men.html

    lollolooololololoozzzzzzz

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    • on February 25, 2013 at 4:30 pm whorefinder

      The cathedral will eat itself if there aren’t any anti-lefties around.

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    • on February 25, 2013 at 4:46 pm gunslingergregi

      don’t need men at oscars don’t need the oscars did anyone watch it?

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      • on February 26, 2013 at 8:54 am Kate

        Parts of it. The musical combo of Chicago, Dreamgirls, and Les Mis was incredible. I didn’t get to see his speech, but I agree with the author of the above article that D.D. Lewis is on another plane. For an actor, he’s just soo authentic.

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  9. on February 25, 2013 at 2:46 pm ArtyB

    Great post

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    • on February 26, 2013 at 1:02 am Creo

      +1

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  10. on February 25, 2013 at 3:09 pm misterinfinite

    I just wrote something similar a few days ago. Plenty of dudes (betas) relate to women like they do to their male friends. It should thus come as no surprise when they are sent to the purgatory of the friend zone. Women are not men. Don’t talk to them like men.

    http://welcometothelifestyle.wordpress.com/2013/02/23/relating-from-man-to-woman/

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    • on February 26, 2013 at 4:51 am taterearl

      “In fact, it is more important to be respected than to be liked.”

      Yup, I’d rather be hated yet respected.

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  11. on February 25, 2013 at 4:03 pm gunslingergregi

    chick what do you see a counselour for
    reply sex addiction

    lol

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    • on February 25, 2013 at 4:28 pm whorefinder

      or…you can go for full serial killer/super-burdened genius worship mode:

      “For the voices in my head that tell me to kill.” said seriously, not looking at her.

      Explain no more.

      If she asks, tell her you can’t say any more, it’s an agreement between your shrink and you.

      You’d think she’ll run screaming away—which is a rational response. But women aren’t rational creatures. 80% of the time, she’ll be both excited and intrigued—“he’s dangerous, he’s burdened, all he needs is my love to save him.”

      Why do you think serial killers and murderers get groupies?

      Instant panties drop + mystery.

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      • on February 25, 2013 at 4:50 pm gunslingergregi

        well you know i go full serial killer lol

        ”””’he’s dangerous, he’s burdened, all he needs is my love to save him.””””’

        well i am so it helps
        yea i ain’t even got to lie to get that he he he

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      • on February 26, 2013 at 12:18 am Anonymous

        60% of the time it works every time.

        Serial killer game works surprisingly well. Saddeningly well. Dark Triad up in heah.

        ∞

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  12. on February 25, 2013 at 4:04 pm gunslingergregi

    response two seconds
    Seriously
    hmm

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  13. on February 25, 2013 at 4:20 pm whorefinder

    I usually have to revive all my girls.

    From the rohypnol.

    RAPE!

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  14. on February 25, 2013 at 4:46 pm Harry Morgan

    Jacky boy hitting on Jennifer Lawrence was classic. Loved her reflexive “oh, do I look like a new girlfriend?” quasi-shit-test and his effortless “I thought about it” comeback. She probably stained that dress.

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    • on February 25, 2013 at 6:17 pm Ulf Elfvin

      “Jacky boy” = Jack Nicholson?

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      • on February 25, 2013 at 6:23 pm Harry Morgan

        Yes, there’s a good clip of their back and fourth. Most websites are interpreting her blushing and laughing as “ewwww! old man hitting on me!” but I think CH is right that it’s more a case of “OMFG JACK FUCKING NICHOLSON IS HITTING ON ME *tingletingle**sploosh*. Ultra fame has its perks.

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  15. on February 25, 2013 at 4:51 pm Arred Wade

    Solid.

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  16. on February 25, 2013 at 5:00 pm gunslingergregi

    onitis shit is tough when actually with the bitch sometimes its old slightly but when she gone dam its rough
    especially when i pulled up last night and let the other chick out for min and she former chick lays on me and its all fucking laughter and i’m teasing her and shit like nothing we do matters she leans over on me i touch her face she smiling at me and fuck its rough to have principles or some shit its tough as fuck to have and apply some standards to her when we near each other and it feels so good and yet at the same time its like she back to her old self though and then a part of me is like who gives a shit enjoy the bitch but then the other part of me is find a new bitch bro you told her you wouldn’t share that ass but then i try to play it off cause i make an excuse of i told her i was running out loot so maybe this is how she knew how to make it where she could achieve all her goals and see me grrr rough shit maybe i fucked it up

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  17. on February 25, 2013 at 5:08 pm gunslingergregi

    said she was gonna game the shit out of me have me eating off her feet instead of out her hand i must maintain
    i think
    maybe not
    uhh
    yeaa and you arerrreeeee

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    • on February 25, 2013 at 6:51 pm josh

      Are you any relation to GBFM?

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  18. on February 25, 2013 at 5:09 pm gunslingergregi

    my stomach hurts grrr
    like i’m high too but not

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  19. on February 25, 2013 at 5:14 pm gunslingergregi

    maybe its even better feeling dumping a chick and kicking her out your house than being in love hahahahaahaha

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  20. on February 25, 2013 at 5:46 pm Ronin

    Nice post.

    Heard a similar idea from Pickup Podcast awhile back.

    Love your term: “Fugruts”. Hahahaha!

    Sounds like a greasy, backroad, country-ho mashup of Rugrats & Lugnuts. 😛

    .
    +You can very easily trip into Fugruts when you’re a recovering brainwashed equalist. (ahem…)

    As an antidote, love that RSD brain-fry exercise YaReally posted awhile back about just standing there and not trying to DHV or anything like it. I am positive a normal guy’s brain Would be a little fried after that, too.

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  21. on February 25, 2013 at 6:23 pm Scray

    My last FR seems tied up in moderation in the Lazy Cad game thread…
    Shout out to Ya for my last FR, if he could, because I actually did lead last week!

    FR –>

    Friday was a waste. I hung out with the social circle and got drunk. Slow and steady I’m gaining little bits of notoriety. Awhile ago I talked about a girl who I drunk txted ‘i love you’s’ to. I did the same thing again, and she actually invited me to come hang out with her and her friend. I brought along my AFC friend. I keep dropping the ball with this girl. We hung out with them for a few hours — until the bar closed — and left.

    All I really remember is eating breakfast with AFC, Nightly, and three girls. Three ugly girls. I was pretty mean to the uggos. I remember Nightly saying afterwards ‘hey, if you want to do comfort with hot girls, you gotta be able to do it with uggos man.’

    Maybe he’s right, but dude…on the recent topic of dumpster diving — I tried that shit. In my early 20’s, I hooked up with 2 3’s. I mean, I had to do no work at all…they were just into me from the get go. Long story short, the shame destroyed my confidence. The fact that I was repulsed by them and didn’t even want to look at them afterwards was horrible. So……yeah…..I just avoid uggos these days or try to make very clear that I’m not interested at least. Unless they have hot friends.

    Saturday—

    I’m noticing that I’m starting to change. It’s kind of this small fire lurking just behind my chest. I don’t know if it’s because I’m starting to see results from lifting weights and that I’m continuing to lose weight, or if I’m just starting to psychologically validate myself. But I recognize these feelings as fledgling embers of confidence. I’m almost always on the verge of opening sets whenever I go out. A few times, without thinking, I say something to a stranger. Nothing big…just like ‘oh would you look at that’ or ‘waiting in line is aweesssuuuuum.’

    And I’m starting to just want to do things for me. My enjoyment. So yeah, I ditch the drug dealer opener and the hairdresser routine. They just don’t click with me, it’s not fun for me to say that. So I search high and low for something that amuses me. I find ‘so my best friend just died….how long do I have to wait to sleep with his girlfriend?’

    I laugh at this. New opener.

    So….me and Nightly go out again. We decide to check out a new venue. The venue turns out to be a huge bomb. Although I tell him that we should try to just do a wildcard every now and again for fun. Like a Country Western bar or something.

    We go to a familiar venue…well, a familiar area with several awesome venues.
    Nightly and I agree that when we’re prowling the room on our first circuit — if we don’t open — that we should just have a routine of looking for someone or something. We further agree that in our first circuit, we should warm up open by just 45 degree over the shoulder compliments. ‘I like that scarf’ /andgone.

    So, we proceed to do this.
    Nightly compliments a girl and moves on. I don’t (klassic Scray). On the way back, I jump into set. Nothing fancy…two 5’s. I deliver the best friend dead opener. They can’t really hear me. I repeat myself once. They can still barely hear me. They close off, they shake their heads. They don’t really get it.

    The cool thing here is that the rejection doesn’t really feel bad to me at all. It’s a funny joke I just told, and if they did hear it and still didn’t get it, why would I even want to hang out with them? So it’s easy for me to just move on while they’re in the middle of shaking their heads.

    Nightly opens a girl. Another girl approaches and stands next to his target. I assume that they’re together or something, so I enter the set. I quickly find out they are not together, so I just kind of find a reason to exit the set. But the set breaks apart like Krypton soon enough anyway.

    Nightly is like ‘you owe me another set.’
    I really want to change up the venue because the logistics of the current venue are pretty bad. So, I just point out to a girl walking by that I REALLY LIKE YOUR NECK BEADS, GOOD JOB.

    Nightly is like ‘…I’ll count that one, but you know that was terrible right?’
    I’m like ‘yeah….I probably sounded like a retard.’
    ‘Yeah you did…’
    ‘New rule, opening with a compliment/leave or as an obvious attempt to blow yourself out doesn’t count anymore.’

    So went the new rule.
    We bounced from venue to venue. Nightly opened some uggos for a few minutes. Naturally they opened right up for us…and naturally, we left after 2 minutes. I opened up some fiesty latinas — also uggos, but with attitude — they were none too pleased about my opener. Although, I delayed opening them. They were walking out of the venue and I missed my 3 second window where it would have been natural. But Nightly’s like ‘nope, you gotta go talk to them….we have to follow the 3 second rule.’ So yeah, I caught up to them by walking, and when I was beside them I delivered it. Next time, I’ll at least do it over my head back to them when I’m ahead.

    I opened another set, which I thought was a 5.5 and a 2 sitting at a coffee table. I deliver the opener, and I realize that the 2 is a dude with long hair. Lol, phag. Anyway, they look at me for a second, stupified ‘did you say dead?’ Blink blink blink. I laugh….

    ‘ahahahaha I’m fucking with you, he isn’t dead I just wanna fuck his girlfriend…’

    Before they can respond I just leave. Dude and his girl out for coffee, why stick around and play an away game?

    Me and my friend wait in line for awhile at another venue. We meet up with some people we know. AFCArmy, AFCDrunkie, and AFCGoodlooks. AFCArmy actually opens a two set behind us with a 6.5 and a 4. Nightly swoops in with a lot of canned material, and he talks to both the 6.5 and the 4. Nightly gets her laughing and she says she’s from a farm, and he asks about how to milk cows, and he’s like ‘is this the right technique? am I doing it right?’ as he pantomimes milking cows. The 6.5 laughs ‘you’re such a jackass!’

    AFCArmy reveals his anti-game by stepping forward ‘yeah that’s exactly right! he deserves that, hahahahahaha, what a jerk. He deserves it.’

    Lol, chode. I try to talk to AFCArmy to help Nightly out, but AFCArmy is having none of that. The guy has good body language and presence, but his conversation is fairly routine. “what do you do?” “where are you from?” “you like x, I love x too.” AFCArmy then lets the 6.5 cut in front of us, along with her friend. Nightly talked to her some more, but we all got let in the club before her somehow….and then we didn’t see her again.

    My next set was a personal revelation. 3 set, 7.5, a 5.5-6…and a 3. Little birthday party. The guys — from the way they were acting and how far away from the girls they were standing, I guessed co-workers/friends rather than boyfriends — in the set are far away. Perfect.

    Me (to 7.5 first, but slowly addressing her and her 5.5-6 friend) best friend died blah blah blah…..

    (they can’t hear me at first, but they both lean in and 7.5 puts her hand on my shoulder…attempting to lean me into her. I realize that I don’t need to fight it. Here’s an excuse to just move into her personal space. Small revelation…and I take a step closer)

    Me: Same line but with a smirk at the end.

    7.5 and 5.5: (mouths agape….I’m finally getting the delivery right, I think)

    Me: (holds for a second, then laughs) I’m just fucking with you. They broke up and I wanna know……

    (7.5 and 5.5 look at one another, they both say 6 months)
    Me: (to the 5.5) so you’re the badass of the bunch, eh? And you’re the good one (to the 7.5)?
    5.5: Yeah I guess
    7.5: Hahahaha what?
    Me: Yeah, I can tell that she (5.5) convinces you to do a lot of crazy shit (7.5)…you have gullible eyes.
    7.5: What? Hahaha, I guess…well she is always doing that (they look at one another)
    Me: Hahaha she’s always getting you to go on wild adventures, but you love it.
    7.5: They’re fun, whatever!
    Me: Wait, here give me your hand (to the 5.5)
    The 5.5 seems shut off to me…not into it, or whatever. Storm clouds up ahead. She gives me her hand and shakes it….totally limp wristed, nothing. Yup. Nightly has engaged the fattie, thankfully.
    I hold my hand out to the 7.5, and I can practically see her state leap upwards as she laughs, shaking my hand with a squeeze
    7.5: NOW I’M GONNA SHAKE YOUR HAND REALLY HARD!
    Me: No cheating you dork!
    7.5 turns away and puts her hand over her mouth but beneath her nose to laugh….I can’t explain it, but it’s definitely like….a good way for a girl to laugh. She’s still holding my hand btw.

    I have my first time slowing down moment. While I have her hand, I should just launch into the digit ratio routine. That way I can hold her hand for a really long time. And I do just that

    Me: (turning over her hand) Huh, that’s interesting about your fingers.
    7.5 (moving closer) What’s that?
    Me: Well see, your index is longer than your ring….which means I’m right about you
    7.5 (looking into my eyes…curious) Wait, what does that mean?
    Me: It just means you’re more of a girly girl.
    5.5: (cutting into the conversation like a wildebeest charging through a cardboard fence) Okay, so did you even want our advice on anything or is this some sort of….
    Me: (mental short-circuit….I think I actually blinked) …oh yeah totally it was an excuse to come talk to you guys. Guilty.
    5.5: Seriously?
    Me: No, I really want your advice.
    5.5: Okay so you should wait 6 months.
    Me: Nice (turning back to 7.5) Hey, what’s that tattoo on your arm?
    7.5: Ohhh…it’s an old tattoo
    Me: I like it….
    7.5: Yeah?
    Me:…yeah my dad has one just like it.
    7.5: (She giggles and shakes her head) Oh my god! I don’t want to remind you of your dad.
    The 5.5 has turned away from me, and has started talking on her phone. I kind of run out of steam, I try to entertain the 5.5 for a second. The weird thing is that she’s fairly receptive to it. Although she does ask me again ‘okay so you wanted advice right? Or….’ I just am like ‘ya totally.’ Then I hear the fattie ask Nightly for his number, and he’s like ‘uhhh…’ and…well….in the moment, I thought this set wasn’t going that well (I know, I know). So I just move over to Nightly and talk with him for a second, and then I just eject.

    ….
    Circuiting around the venue again, Nightly is like ‘hey why’d you leave? Dude, that girl was really hot and she was into you. I’ve never seen that before with you…like she was touching you and laughing and stuff. Why did you leave?’

    …
    ‘I don’t know.’
    Nightly laughs…’you’re fucking weird.’
    ‘well her friend was just not having it…’
    ‘So just get her to talk to me…’
    ‘They were standing at a weird angle’
    ‘Just move the girl who’s into you closer to you….you can do all of these things, you could have done them in that set.’

    …
    ‘Oh.’

    Nightly opened another set. Check this out…a statuesque, blonde6.5 (Nightly swore she was an 8, but I can’t report this in good conscience) with this short buff black dude (shorter than me even). I actually felt bad trying to distract him. Didn’t really matter, they were clearly together.

    Next venue. First girls I see are two chubby 4’s. Why not. I open the one on her phone, and both of them turn with a bitch snarl. Now…….in times past I would have been sad or whatever about this, but for some reason, I’m loving life. What a bunch of dorks….lawl. I legitimately laugh and do the whole ‘you should see your faces…he’s not dead, I just wanna fuck his girlfriend.’ They’re both like ‘never.’ And I’m like ‘oh yeah, you gonna send a text that says never.’ She starts to say ‘I’m actually texting my boyfriend so – – ” I leave in the middle of her sentence, as if something better caught my attention.

    I can’t find Nightly, but this bar seems stocked with plain janes. I open two more at the bar. I have to actually say the opener twice again because they can’t hear me. Blondie5 and Fattie4 are facing away from me. They both have the ‘never’ response as well. But, I can tell that Blondie5, even though she’s putting off a coldish vibe….I just get this feeling. Like, I dunno…she’s conservative or she’s got a bitch shield or whatever but is kind of interested a little. I notice this because I drop the conversation several times (to look around the room) and she starts talking again. Albeit about the same topic, nothing new. I file it away in my mind for future reference…but the fact is that she’s boring either way, and when I see Nightly with what appears to be a mixed two set, I just leave in the middle of her sentence.

    (I’m growing really fond of just leaving interactions that bore me or are unlikely to yield fruit. This opener is starting to act as a qualifier. I mean…honestly, fuck off if you don’t understand humor. It almost always gets a reaction though — when it’s heard)

    I come in and realize that the guy I saw with them was just some guy randomly there and who left in like two seconds. So while I’m there, I just DHV my buddy. He says he’s psychic, I agree, and then she says he looks like Dave Blaine and I say ‘if DB was 10 times sexier…’ that kind of shit. Then I leave.

    So after all that, we debrief. We actually settle a few conflicts we’ve had about winging and whatnot, and we come up with signals/gambits that will let us know what one another is doing/thinking.

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    • on February 25, 2013 at 9:20 pm Naz

      Your state of mind has clearly improved. Really cool stuf!

      @Truth: ppl leave all sort of comments; short, long, humorous, serious, etc. if I start reading a comment and realize that I don’t like what I’m reading I just move/ scroll on. Nothing lost there.
      Scray’s comments are actually fun to read.

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  22. on February 25, 2013 at 7:09 pm Truth

    @Scray

    Dude. You just posted a 2663 word response in a BLOG.
    (yes I actually checked it)

    If you wanna spout your life story, start your own fucking roll.

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    • on February 25, 2013 at 7:18 pm Hook or Crook

      “Dude. You just posted a 2663 word response in a BLOG.”

      Indeed! Keep up the good work, Scray.

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    • on February 25, 2013 at 7:21 pm Scray

      Oh I usually post them to get feedback about what I could have done better, and the feedback I’ve gotten here has really helped me. But yeah, is there a policy or preference against posting FR’s here?

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      • on February 25, 2013 at 11:24 pm YaReally

        Truth can eat my shit. Keep posting. You’re one of the only guys in this comment section with the balls to go out and improve your life instead of circle-jerking keyboard theory and whining about immigrants and lefties. Mad respect for ya on my end and you have solid writing skills so they’re good reads!

        “and…well….in the moment, I thought this set wasn’t going that well (I know, I know).”

        I’m swamped with work this week but I’ll be back as soon as I figure out how to bitchslap you through the Internet for this part 😉 lol good stuff dude. I’ll do up your last FR too and link it all.

        And happy belated bday!

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      • on February 25, 2013 at 11:32 pm immoralgables

        No mot at all. I would recommend putting it on a word doc and uploading it to mediafire

        I’ll download it, write in my comments and then hit you back with a link where you can DL that. Just an idea.

        For example, I upload my FRs to a subreddit so the text doesn’t take up too much real estate here and commenters can write up their thoughts in the thread I started.

        http://www.reddit.com/r/GothamSeddit/comments/1984z2/field_report_day_13_of_30_day_challenge/

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      • on February 26, 2013 at 3:17 am SheCantSayNo

        lol, keep doing your awesome thing and let the haters hate.

        Learning a shitton from YaReally’s breakdowns so my only complaint is that you don’t post even more of them (and that YR has forgotten about your and gables’ reports over here: https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/02/15/beta-female-relationship-whoring/ it’s almost painful watching these rough diamonds slip back into the mud!)

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      • on February 26, 2013 at 2:16 pm Scray

        Yeah I have another one over in Lazy Cad Game that I don’t think is up yet. Long story short, there was a set in there where a model and her friend asked me and Nightly to bounce with them to a quieter bar….aka uncharted waters. So…hope that gets up soon.

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      • on February 26, 2013 at 2:23 pm PetiteOlive

        Keep posting Scray. Even though I am not a PUA and/or Dude, I enjoy reading the progress you are making. Keep up the good work!

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    • on February 26, 2013 at 1:36 pm itsme

      you can buy a mouse with a scroll wheel for $5

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  23. on February 25, 2013 at 7:25 pm taterearl

    I like the idea that most women’s lives are nothing but continuous boredom and I come in and put a stop to it. Even if it is for a few minutes.

    Which is why sticking my tongue out at them…or even lightly tapping them on the arm and saying “tag you’re it” is fun.

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    • on February 26, 2013 at 12:13 am Anonymous

      Agreed, this is an excellent frame. It’s also sadly the truth.

      “Tag, you’re it!” Hahah! I do that. Stop copying me.

      ∞

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  24. on February 25, 2013 at 7:31 pm Harrison

    I’m a current beta aspiring to be an alpha. As such, I’ve started to work on my skills. I’m tired of getting advice from betas and want advice from real men.

    Here’s my current problem. Lay into me as hard as you can: I’m using this more for an educational experience rather than worrying about this girl.

    I texted this cutie to hang out and she texted back and said that she was out of town visiting friends and suggested we hang out the next weekend. I didn’t reply since I knew I’d be seeing her in class in a couple days. Saw her in class and she asked if I got her text and I said I did, and that I’m going to be out of town that weekend she suggested (which is true). She just said okay and changed the subject.

    Did I play this off okay? I figured that we can always hang out in a couple weekends and I could just text her and tell her to hang out when that day actually comes rather than trying to make plans almost two weeks in advanced.

    The beta in me kept feeling bad for not saying “well, what about the weekend after.”

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    • on February 25, 2013 at 7:52 pm space_monkey

      It’s OK, but why can’t you hang out during the week in the meantime? If there’s no actual reason, you should have tried to do something on a weekday. Otherwise, it seems fine. I handle setting up plans with girls similar to with friends. 3 weekends out, yea, I wouldn’t be setting up plans unless it was for a specific event.

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      • on February 25, 2013 at 8:15 pm Harrison

        I was thinking about one of the weekdays. Problem is we work so that consumes time and I have no idea what’s going to go on with the snow, weather’s supposed to be horrible.

        And weekday didn’t occur to me at first, either. When she texted “how about next weekend”, whether it was dumb of me or not, I automatically thought weekends as our only options.

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      • on February 25, 2013 at 8:50 pm space_monkey

        Ah, well it’s very possible she thought only weekends because that is what you suggested to begin with. Alpha, beta, whatever. As a man, we lead the interaction with women. If you make it seem like you can only hang out on weekends, most girls will just accept that.

        It would still be fine to ask her out during the week if you see her at class again. If you’re in class with her all semester, perhaps something low-risk, like going out immediately after your class. If you can’t, then yea, just keep being friendly with her and catching her interest until a few days before that weekend when you’re both in town and set something up then. Good luck 🙂

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    • on March 1, 2013 at 3:08 pm guy dudebro

      text her like two hours b4 u usually goto bed n say something like I’m buried up to my eyeballs in homework and judge by response time and number of words her interest. if she says anything other then lol then use double entente/ plausible deniability and say something like i wish my eyeballs were buried in something else then when she asks like what say a good movie…. escalate fast for same night lay if she shows interest. if you hang out and don’t think you can close make an excuse and leave. nothing says beta like desperately trying to close and can’t. always save face and leave.

      logistical excuses are almost always lies and women flake a lot that is why same night lay stuff works. lozlolzzlollz

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  25. on February 25, 2013 at 10:17 pm walawala

    Great post in “reframing” the opening of sets to the “I’m the prize” and amused mastery frame.

    The outcome independence frame is vital to “reviving” girls….

    This clip is a repost and worth a discussion…

    Spoiler alert…after “reviving” this girl who actually opens him…Bond bangs her, names a cocktail after her, then gets oneitis after the baddie ices her…

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  26. on February 25, 2013 at 10:17 pm walawala

    Bond gets opened and flips the script…

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    • on February 25, 2013 at 11:57 pm Anonymous

      “Flips the script”. Yesss. I guess so.

      I prefer to view that scene as the secretly mutable force encountering the immovable frame.

      BEND.

      ∞

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    • on February 26, 2013 at 6:33 am gunslingergregi

      she got last word
      he went to drink and wanted to talk so bad didn’t then talked then drank
      he filled both their glasses like the waiter should of done what first class gonna make you fill your own glass
      and yea he had to say the bullshit feminist crap about how her make bosses aren’t gonne promote her because of the way she dresses even though she is in a transaction with the hero bond for christsakes how much higher in the game could she go right?

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  27. on February 25, 2013 at 11:30 pm YaReally

    “When done right, it is a privilege to get picked up by a PUA.” – Mystery

    “Most people go through life in a walking daze.” – Tyler

    “Let her experience the full range of emotions she WANTS to experience.” – RSDJulien

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    • on February 25, 2013 at 11:38 pm Anonymous

      All three of these are Truths, particularly Tyler’s comment.

      Our job is to be human “handshake interrupts”.

      ∞

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      • on February 26, 2013 at 3:37 am Hitting the Fan

        “…particularly Tyler’s comment.”

        Lolzlolzzzlolz

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  28. on February 26, 2013 at 1:25 am Mark Minter

    Here is just another way to be a thorn in the side of Feminists.

    This is from the foreword of The Woman Racket by Steve Moxon.

    “I should also point out that in this book about the sexes you will find
    barely a mention of ‘gender’. When I do use the term, it‘s in scare quotes or
    followed by ‘(sic)’. This is because the word ‘gender’ implies that the sexes
    are ‘socially constructed’, rather than essentially different in their nature.
    My exposition is of the overwhelming evidence against this position,
    hence the abandonment of the loaded term ‘gender’ in favour of the
    (equally loaded) term ‘sex’. ”

    So stop saying “gender” and say “sex”. Stop letting the witches control the language and take it back. When someone says ‘gender’, point out that it is social construct and not supported by real science. And be very annoying about doing so. Needling. Gleefully obnoxious.

    So I would think this needs to go into Maxim’s. Mamby pamby manginas and ManJawed Feminists say “gender” and real science says “sex”.

    I am not into putting links into comments anymore but if you seach for Steve Moxon, he has a web site with his name in the title. And underneath that site is a menu heading for The Woman Racket. The book adverts have a recommendation by Warren Farrel, who Rollo Tomassi called “The First Man Awake”. So I would say that establishes Moxon’s bonafides. As a gift, he posts the entire 272 page pdf of The Woman Racket, for all, without charge.

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    • on February 26, 2013 at 11:38 am corvinus

      Ha. My mom was an English teacher and was always bothered by using the word “gender” for “sex”. “Gender is for words!”

      Gender is “masculine” and “feminine” (or “neuter”). Sex is “male” and “female”. You’re right… using the term “gender” suggests something fungible rather than built-in.

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    • on February 26, 2013 at 12:02 pm Rick Derris

      +1!

      I love the “Gender is socially constructed” assertion. WTF, so XY and XX don’t mean anything? In the end, even chicks with dicks are still that – chicks.

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  29. on February 26, 2013 at 2:12 am dannyfrom504

    “You flirt with all of them, because the world’s girls are yours to enjoy, and opportunity for sexual closure is relegated to a more manageable role as a happy coincidence to the goal of improved communication with the opposite sex.”

    lol. as Yohami says, “game everyone.”

    game isn’t simply about getting laid (though it helps), it’s about being the type of man others want to be around. men admire you. woman adore and swoon over you.

    game everyone.

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    • on February 27, 2013 at 1:04 pm JironGhrad

      “Game everyone” is right. Not just women. Game the waiter… even if it’s a dude. Don’t make it sexual, and even then it’ll probably make him stammer and get out of sync at first, but once you’ve established frame… you’ll get first class service, even at places like the Olive Garden. I even make them bring me extra chocolate mints after dinner and they fall all over themselves to get them for me. And that’s after they know that my girl’s paying the check.

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  30. on February 26, 2013 at 2:17 am dannyfrom504

    Tater-
    sticking the tongue out is MY mo. lol. don’t steal my gig. works like a charm though doesn’t it.

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    • on February 26, 2013 at 4:43 am taterearl

      Especially when she sticks her tongue out back at you.

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  31. on February 26, 2013 at 5:19 am Anonymous

    i pity the fools that need to be told this.

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  32. on February 26, 2013 at 6:17 am gunslingergregi

    went to sleep woke up 13 calls from 6 numbers guess i’m back in the game somewhat
    date on sat

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  33. on February 26, 2013 at 8:36 am taterearl

    Another way to revive Girls is to take Lena Dunham off the show.

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    • on February 27, 2013 at 12:17 pm dannyfrom504

      I’d rather tea bag a cup of bleach and shattered glass than fuck Lena Durham.

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  34. on February 26, 2013 at 12:28 pm corvinus

    In re the Italian election.

    Look at Silvio Berlusconi’s expression on his Wikipedia article. People like alphas. Bersani and Monti were dweebs… it’s no surprise Berlusconi made a comeback.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlusconi

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    • on February 26, 2013 at 12:30 pm corvinus

      Yup.

      http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/26/italy-vote-berlusconi-idUSL6N0BQCLG20130226

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  35. on February 26, 2013 at 12:55 pm corvinus

    Oh, and for you SWPLs: in case you’re wondering why this blog is “infested with racists”, read this:

    http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/ironically-a-mans-face-can-tell-you-if-hes-likely-to-act-like-a-racist

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    • on February 26, 2013 at 1:02 pm Anonymous

      i like in the comments the people saying why was it all white men thats racist nice

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    • on February 27, 2013 at 10:01 am Reggie

      The study shows that (white?) men with higher testosterone are less likely to be PC about their beliefs. It fits completely with CH.

      If you look at the graph you can see that a number of high T men scored low on racism. They were not racist and they self reported that they were not racist. It also shows that a number of low T men scored higher on racism than many high T men.

      It’s a study that shows that high T men are more likely to express their views without fear of social reprisal. Need I say this is likely the linchpin in the dark triad? They appear to be sociopaths but I’d say that the entire PC crowd are the sociopaths; quiet spergy sociopaths that go along to get along. The low T, PC crowd would be stringing up people of other races if it became PC enough. Meanwhile the high T men with conviction would be declaring without fear that it’s wrong and a new study would emerge.

      You could probably use this same study to prove high T causes rape or any other social ills by getting participants to discuss any topic. A rapists with high T might be more likely to express non-PC opinions about rape.

      The study is bullshit and completely inconclusive in my opinion.

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      • on February 27, 2013 at 3:33 pm corvinus

        The low T, PC crowd would be stringing up people of other races if it became PC enough. Meanwhile the high T men with conviction would be declaring without fear that it’s wrong and a new study would emerge.

        The low T PC crowd already strings up “racists” when they come across them… that goes double if the person accused of “racism” gives a groveling apology.

        You could probably use this same study to prove high T causes rape or any other social ills by getting participants to discuss any topic. A rapists with high T might be more likely to express non-PC opinions about rape.

        The study is bullshit and completely inconclusive in my opinion.

        Non sequitur.

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  36. on February 26, 2013 at 1:50 pm Vince

    Once again CH takes us to a paradigm shift. There is a lot of love to share. A lot of playfulness. Just not a lot of cock :P. The cock stays for the true game worthy chicks.

    Praise the prophet.

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  37. on February 27, 2013 at 7:49 am walawala

    One word game: I used this, instead of “You done?”

    “Finished?”

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  38. on March 23, 2013 at 6:02 pm Does N Count Matter? | The Karamazov Idea

    […] to the great wall and create one slightly-more marriageable woman, surely that would be a civic service, […]

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