When women ask you about your relationship status, or similarly leading questions, tell them the two words that they love to hear. The power of this reply is undeniable. No woman can resist its mystique. It’s super-charged hamster pellet, laced with PCP.
Good news! There’s another two-word answer pregnant with potential for hamsterized nuance to which women Pavlovianly react. They don’t necessarily love this reply like they love the one above, but they do need it.
This one is deployed when the woman’s drama queen quotient (DQQ, do note the relevance of the “QQ” part) has been exceeded. We’ve all been there (well, those of us who have dated hotter-than-average women have been there); one day everything is going great, the next, she’s got herself spun up into a lather about some inconsequential shit that is really a pretext for deeper relationship or dating or marital or hypergamy-denied issues. The typical beta male endures her outbursts, hoping it will all end soon, hastening it along with supplicating gestures and effusive promises to do better by her, and to his consternation and everlasting confusion gets rewarded with her resentment and sexual withdrawal.
There’s a better way. Alpha males in the audience will know it immediately. Some of them have probably used it in moments of crisis.
First, let her vent. Yes, there is a time to put your fist through a wall like an uncontrollable beastman, and a time to root yourself firmly and silently, like an oak tree, unmoved and unperturbed by her whirligig womanliness. The ratio of these seemingly contradictory alpha male responses should tilt heavily in favor of being the oak tree. Beastman mode loses its effectiveness rather quickly when overused.
After she has spent herself (momentarily, at any rate, for a woman’s DQQ energy reserves are nearly inexhaustible), gaze at her lazily and say,
“You done?”
Hamster status: nuked. Labia status: pulsating.
If you add a cocked eyebrow while saying it, you will have nuked the hamster’s home planet as well.
You may not want to stick around after dropping this bomb. Not in the same room, if you live together. Sticking around will be interpreted as waiting for a reply, and a request for continuance of her drama queenery. The better follow-up is walking away from the scene of psyche destruction, so that the words may slow boil in her brain, delivering to each scorched neuron the message that “Here stands a man who will not put up with my female shit.”
If you do stick around for more screeching, no matter what verbal artillery she redeploys your second reply should be “Good.”
Hamster cage: salted.
Wait some time, and come back to her with love in your heart. Regardless of the share of blame you shoulder for her anger, she will meekly, joyfully, relievedly surrender in apologia to your Ionic strength. Her conversation then might sound something like this:
“I know I’ve been a little crazy lately… sometimes I just wish you’d [X]… but I’ll try to be more [X] too… Im sorry, I don’t mean to be this way… do you still love me? [DOE EYES]”
This post is now done.

Good.
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[…] UPDATE: The Evil One says it better. […]
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BTW re the twitter Vince Gallo comment:A video of Chloe Sevigny sucking his shmuck is on Redtube.
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That’s from a movie called “Brown Bunny.” Talk about sacrificing for your craft. Gallo always looks like he just Australian-crawled through the grease traps behind the Sizzler and then toweled off with a sumo wrestler’s diaper.
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Brown Bunny!! Ha ha! I read Roger Eberts review of that movie–which I had never seen nor heard of–and he tore into Gallo with a fierce rage. He trashed the movie every which way. And came back again another time and trashed it some more. Wow -he hated Brown Bunny. Maybe the title Brown Bunny was not a good start?
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yea while texting yesterday i used its complicated
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look at all the chicks fucking with the its complicated trying to draw me into a defense he he he
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I thought the two words were going to be “Fuck you.”.
Women need to hear that a lot more than they do.
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True , in a sense , but such expressions of butthurtness will not get you into the promised land.
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I like “Shut up”
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or get the fuck out lol
she outside in street at 3 in morning screaming and shit about what i didn’t really find out till later when my neghbors told me i was watching a movie
just heard cell phone or some crap so i opened door and put it on porch and closed door
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lol
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Yeah, this is pretty much textbook. I’ve done this a lot, though never so concisely. Kind of kicking myself a little for wasting my breath on a full sentence to say what only takes two words.
Granted, I’ve had similar results with just a smirk and a raised eyebrow when she goes on a hamster rant. Apparently, the aloof smirk gets her too turned on to stay mad.
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“Good” is great.
It can be an answer to anything.
“Right-o” also works.
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“You done” is amusing. “Its complicated” has lost its cachet. To me it says, “guy who doesn’t have his act together.”
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I wonder how guys feel when a girl they want to pursue more say “its complicated”. I used it to let a guy I went on three dates with down easy. He became even more persistent and would not stop texting/calling me for a month…..until he eventually got the msg.
[CH: Here’s the difference. “It’s complicated” will work on hot babes when used by men. But it will only work on betas when used by women.]
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“I used it to let a guy I went on three dates with down easy.”
Say: “I’m sorry. You’re great, but I’m interested/hung up on someone I met before you.”
This approach never brings up the dreaded “f” word, it makes them feel like they had a chance, and its not really their fault because you just happened to meet the other guy first.
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Heartiste I agree
….the fact that he was persistent after subtly alluding to the fact that he gave me no tingles after date 3…should have confirmed the beta-ness.There’s nothing worse than a guy saying “Fine, I won’t contact you anymore” and then contacts you THREE DAYS LATER…ugh..
@ Kate, I might employ the “still hung up on someone” route….I don’t know about “interested in someone else” route though….wouldn’t it beg the question of why I proceeded to go on subsequent dates with particular guy in the first place if I was already interested in someone else? Sigh….the joys of dating mang! lol
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“after subtly alluding to the fact that he gave me no tingles”
You need to be more clear and allow people a dignified exit. If you find yourself exasperated with someone, its a sign expectations were not properly signalled. Its incumbent upon you to speak up. It’ll be good practice for marriage. If you explain that you are just casually dating, then people should assume you are meeting others.
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I really wish I’d found good advice like this when I was dating. Usually I would just not pick up until they got the hint, or sometimes make my grandmother and answer the phone and tell them “You no call ok?”
Confrontation seemed quite scary at the time. Isn’t it scary to anticipate the reaction they will get? I always worried they would be cruel or violent or get extra clingy…..
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LOL Flavia! Bad girl! I certainly remember not knowing what to say. I’m not a huge fan of confrontation either. But remember the guy who was driving me crazy with the texts a while back? He was very disappointed our date didn’t go as he thought it was going to- whatever that was. Sex right in the restaurant? Anyway, I had to give some kind of response. I just told him that I felt our expectations weren’t aligned right now and that sometimes people can inadvertently exert pressure on others in their enthusiasm. I told him I wasn’t opposed to seeing him again but that I was behaving the way I was because I was getting to know a couple people. He was very dear in his response and I haven’t heard a peep from him. He has most likely moved on to find someone who will be as excited about him and he is about them. As it should be.
And I have to apologize to Olive for going into schoolmarm mode. Sorry! Sometimes I can’t help it!
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I think “I like you as a friend.” is the best one. It’s very clear.
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And if he’s smart, he’ll say, “I already have enough friends, have a nice life.”
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It may be clear, but, personally, I consider anything with the word “friend” in it bad form. It is so insulting.
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Kate, I agree. LikeFlavia, I hate confrontations or worse, having to explain “why” things won’t/didn’t work out. Being direct is preferable, but I have been fortunate (for the most part) to be able to read people (part of legal training I guess) and filter out the decent from the not so decent guys. So by the time I am going on a date, I already know this guy is a somewhat decent person. Beta perhaps, but all around decent. So that being said, I find it REALLY difficulting saying “sorry, I don’t see a future here” after we have been on more than two dates. If however, I say “its complicated” then they are able to externalize the demise of any potentia/budding relationship on me as oppose to internalizing same (thinking it was something wrong with them). I do care about the feelings of these men and if they somehow think that we did not work out due to my own personal issues or baggage, I feel like they would feel more okay with things. Besides, some of these men, are people I see around all the time, either they have some connection with my firm or work in neighbouring firms/in the financial district/ at the same happy hour lounges etc….I’d rather next time they see me to go “What a little crazy girl”…as opposed to “what a bitch” lulzz
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I agree with Mike in Texas.. just tell the truth.
if they text me I just text back “You are really great, but it isn’t right for me. Take care!”
Shows some integrity. Sometimes they get angry, but I don’t really care.
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@Olive: Yeah, I understand. I’m a heavy screener too. And I think its always a good policy- even if you won’t see the person again- to treat others well.
My main beef with the phrase is just that’s its become trite, like “whatever.”
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It seems as if you should have figured that out before date three.
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Damn, just tell him you aren’t feeling it, and say goodbye.
Blunt and to the point works wonders on men.
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I’m like you, Flavia. I would just stop picking up the phone.
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Fair enough Lara, I normally do figure it out on the first or second date at most, but sometimes, there are guys who have all the indicators of high value (looks, success, personality) and I keep hoping that the tingles are going to somehow magically appear sooner or later. When the guy is a a$$hole (and I don’t mean the good kind of a$$holery) then it’s obviously easier to tell him point blank after date one, but when the guy is decent, it is harder….I dunno, just my personal experience anyway.
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I can understand that, at least you gave him a chance. My guess is by your body language it was obvious that you weren’t attracted to him. He either chose to ignore it, or thought he could change your mind.
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@Lara
“He either chose to ignore it, or thought he could change your mind.”
Exactly! But that doesn’t necessarily make him a beta. Persistent men aren’t beta, and you would be surprised how many a woman changed her mind over someone who initially wasn’t really her type. This proves that women don’t really have a type, unlike men who do. Any man can become a woman’s type if he dominates her. In other words, a dominant man is most women’s type, unless they are angry man-hating old hags.
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It really doesn’t work on men who respect themselves. When you tell a man it’s complicated, it’s loaded with the background of ‘I have lots of baggage’. Who wants a woman with baggage? The more baggage she has, the more it implies a slut. Therefore, a more masculine guy runs the other way. A fool continues calling after a woman tells him in effect she is messed up.
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lol dead on. Not bad for a chick.
A girl who does this to me instantly goes into fuckbuddy territory at best. I’ll still fuck her, but she has no shot at an LTR with me, even an Open one. And as a fuckbuddy-at-best, if she makes it any kind of difficult to fuck, she’s Soft Next’ed until she gets with the program. If she chooses not to, then best of luck to her I sincerely hope she finds a nice beta chump to dump all her baggage on and they live happily ever after.
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To clarify, a large part of why my rule is so cut and dry with this is that even if it IS complicated or she’s into someone else or she’s got a BF or fiancé or husband, if I’m doing my job right then she will pretend those things don’t even exist, not put me on a mental scale weighing me against them.
So her saying “it’s complicated” is an indicator of:
1) she’s not attracted to me enough yet, which usually means my value isn’t high enough in her eyes, which means I have more work to do game-wise
or:
2) her life is SO full of drama and baggage that she can’t ignore it to fuck me (ie – she has an angry scary jealous prison boyfriend who’s in jail for stabbing the last guy she cheated with VS she has a crush on some dude in her social circle which is insignificant and wouldn’t be brought up by her), which ultimately means its going to be bullshit I end up caught in the middle of, down the road.
This is also part of how I avoid getting my ass kicked if I bang girls who have BFs/fiances/hubby’s. I make an effort to avoid getting involved with the ones that are likely to cause me trouble by looking for red flags like this.
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Ya Really, you are spot on.
Option 1, of the options you listed is usually the reason I would use the “It’s complicated” line.
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It’s understandable. Most guys have shitty game but that doesn’t make them shitty people, you could still 100% WANT to be attracted to them because they’re good looking well-off generally nice dudes that you’re like “oh I HOPE this works out!”, they simply aren’t triggering that crazy chemistry tingle that ideally you’d like…the one that makes you jump in with two feet and brush away any other little crushes you have (or in some girl’s cases brushing away the little detail that they’re married) and going “YES! Lets do this thing!!” and get swept off into the night with him.
Instead you end up at dinner looking at a guy and frustratedly thinking “be more exciting to my vagina agggghhh”. This is the point where a chick starts looking at “well what kind of watch does he have? What kind of shoes does he have? Is he at least good-looking? Does he at least have solid plans for the future? Is he close with his family?”, looking for logical reasons to be attracted to him, trying to jumpstart attraction, because he isn’t jumpstarting it himself.
The end result is often that you can’t jumpstart attraction because that’s not how it works (it’s like a Beta listing logical reasons why you should like him) and when he asks about your status you say “it’s complicated”. At the end you leave the date/interaction disappointed and frustrated that he wasn’t more interesting and another guy goes off into the night thinking “she looked at my watch, maybe I need a more expensive watch!”
When I’m interacting with a girl she has no idea what shows I’m wearing or if I’m even wearing a watch or what my education is or half the time even what my name is and she “forgets” about how “complicated” her other shit is because I’m taking her on such an exciting emotional ride that she doesn’t have that lull in attraction where she has to look at all that stuff and make a logical decision. I’m shooting straight for the gina tingles so she’ll excuse all those other things.
I’ve been with a handful of girls who actually hate me lol like they’ve admitted flat out that I’m not their type at all and it frustrates them that they keep wanting to fuck me because they logically know they shouldn’t. They don’t fully grasp that the reason I’m addicting is that I’m interacting with them on a different channel than they’re used to, and via game I’m interacting in a super-charged way on that channel.
Anyway this is why every guy should learn a little game. Just some basics, they don’t have to get all hardcore with it. I’d bet there are a handful of guys in your dating life that you would’ve been 100% satisfied with and WANTED to like, but who only fell short of a long happy life with you because society convinced them to be willfully ignorant of how to spark some tingles in you. That’s sad and tragic to me in the longrun…even if it means more pussy available for me, I’m all about people finding eachother and getting what they want in life.
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@ Ya really, spitting nuggets of wisdom as always. Spot on
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Hmm. Something just clicked for me here. I’ve always taken issue with the acronym LTR because length seems to be relative. But, what I’m getting is that its not necessarily the amount of time as the attitude with which one approaches the person and how they are treated. Interessant.
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Welcome to how a PUA arranges his Open LTRs and/or Multiple LTRs.
My Primary GF (oLTR) is my Primary. It doesn’t mean I see her more than I see other girls, it doesn’t mean I only fuck her and not other girls, it doesn’t mean I don’t care about any other girls except her or that I don’t cuddle for a bit with my FBs after we bang and take a slight interest in their lives in general.
It means that she takes priority over all of those girls and she gets privileges that they don’t. They’re at arm-length, she’s in close. My fuckbuddies either know I’m not available in general, or they flat out know about her and know she’s higher priority to me than them.
The funny part is that a lot of the time that’s actually attractive to girls, that there’s a girl in my life that I prioritize over other women including them. It’s romantic to them, even if they know they don’t get to BE that girl. They’ll recommend wines to try with her that they think she’d like and restaraunts to take her to and shit lol
It’s all about the attitude/intent, not the amount of time spent or the activities we do (although there are activities my Primary gets to do with me that FBs etc. don’t).
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Lots of baggage could also imply psycho – a psycho slut. You could at least workout something with a slut – make her a fuckbuddy for as long as it’s advantageous to you – but a psycho? You can’t do anything with a psycho but stay away.
Many girls don’t know how to respond to men. They think that giving a guy a smartass/shrewish response makes them cool. I think men like a little bit of unassuming-ness and innocence in women, as opposed to women who sneers, snarls, snorts, or give smartass/snarky/obnoxious responses. Leave that to the men. Women shouldn’t be mirroring men’s behavior. The whole attractiveness issue hangs on men being attracted to the female because she has her own style, a feminine style, and doesn’t echo I’m one of the guys.
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Men are hard to get rid of sometimes, even when you are blunt and to the point with them. I wrote a couple of blog posts about that recently.
http://lifeofalovergirl.wordpress.com/2013/01/27/stopping-the-stalkers/ and
http://lifeofalovergirl.wordpress.com/2013/01/20/pressure-on-dates-ugghhh/
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Usually this comes from the Scarcity Mentality mindset. They don’t think they can GET other women or that they can have that same connection with them, so they try to force it to work. Add to that a culture where movies books etc tell men “be persistant, stand outside her window with a boom box and eventually you’ll win her over!” and the end result is a bunch of drama and frustration.
A lot of anti-game types bring up rape with regard to PUAs and they paint us like evil bastards who browbeat a woman into having sex and then leave her used and abused as we dash off into the night stealing her innocence.
The reality is I don’t have to rape a chick because I can get a dozen other ones. I don’t care if a chick doesn’t put out. That’s fine, I have 4 other girls I can txt to come over for a booty call after that chick leaves. Or I can turn around and talk to the girls beside us and take one of them home. Who the fuck cares if she doesn’t want to put out? lol
All we do is use some psychology knowledge to push a little bit past the “we shouldn’t do this…” token resistance (can’t even count the number of times a girl has said “we are NOT having sex tonight” while she’s straddling me and taking off her shirt lol). If we hit a hard “NO.”, that’s cool. We back off entirely and it’s no big deal. Often this attitude makes them end up re-initiating but even if they don’t, hey it’s all good, we can get sex from other girls, that’s the Abundance Mentality mindset.
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Kate, it’s pretty obvious if a guy has his act together and has very little to do with whether he’s in a relationship or in a relationship on it’s way out. Whether his answer is “Yes” or “It’s complicated” or “Not exactly” doesn’t really reflect hardly at all on whether or not he has his act together or not. Just your solipsism predictably rearing it’s cute little hamster head.
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Its official. I am not a hot babe 😦 LOL
“Its complicated” means..
My ex-wife still calls me
I carry a dead hamster around in my pocket
I am a man-child not ready for an adult relationship
OR any combination of the above 🙂
[CH: Past a certain target age, a lot of these game tactics don’t work as well because, well… single women of maturity are desperate to settle down in a committed relationship. They will need more beta reassurance game.]
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Thank you Kate.
The “it’s complicated” seems to work on pre-30 females, but not so much after 30.
I feel lucky that I have found a woman in her mid-30’s who doesn’t care about all this crap. She just wants to be laid, and she is expecting me to make sure she does.
I am good with that, and so glad I don’t have to deal with half the crap some on here deal with.
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How did you two find each other/get together/come to this arrangement?
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We met online at one of my favorite websites for erotic writers.
She liked my prose and contacted me. We found out we only lived 11 miles apart so we met for coffee. The rest is history.
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“We found out we only lived 11 miles apart so we met for coffee.”
Wow! That’s awesome!
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Predictably you didn’t even attempt to respond to what I said. If a guy has nearly everything else sorted and projects how solid his life is (natural for a confident guy that has his life sorted), it will be rare for a woman to think “It’s complicated” means he’s a man-child not ready for an adult relationship. But, it’s all about you, as your response to Heartiste’s edit (to SOMEONE ELSE’S comment) being placed in a response to my comment makes clear.
Run, soli-hamster, run!
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Aside from the first line, my response *was* to you. I see the point you were making and I apologize for slighting you by not using your name. You’re complicated.
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Nice ad hominem at the end there. Do you deny that most women would not consider the “it’s complicated” response used by the OP as an indicator of the guy being a “man-child” (as you stated you would) given that a man has or at least projects confidence and him having his life well sorted otherwise?
You did not respond to me, because you did not address the question above, which I’ve re-stated so that you can be clear as to what I’m asking. You will likely continue to post what you want instead of addressing my point, but such is the solipsistic nature of women.
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I do not deny it, your honor. May I step down?
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Haha! “You done?” is fuckin’ classic! I prefer to flip the script on these bitches and just say, “Whatever.” I typically accent my blasé retort by rolling my eyes and walking away like an uninterested and unamused spectator from the failed circus freakshow.
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“Whatever” only works sometimes in my experience
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“one day everything is going great, the next, she’s got herself spun up into a lather about some inconsequential shit that is really a pretext for deeper relationship or dating or marital or hypergamy-denied issues. The typical beta male endures her outbursts, hoping it will all end soon, hastening it along with supplicating gestures and effusive promises to do better by her, and to his consternation and everlasting confusion gets rewarded with her resentment and sexual withdrawal.”
Srsly, it blows my MIND how you know women SO WELL. Jeez.
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Men experienced with women see the same things over and over and over again, so that it becomes more of a “here it comes again” mentality when the women get all worked up over some bs (usually trivial) issue. Most, if not all, beta males don’t have that experience with multiple women so they panic in the same situation in which the alpha male remains calm.
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Oh my god!! This is so true!! I’ve been dating an attractive polish girl for the last 7 months, and lately she’s been crying and overthinking every little thing I say. I just listen to her with amusement and tell her that she’s crazy. One time when she called me sobbing on the phone about some inconsequential bullshit I straight up told her that I’m not here to be her emotional tampon. Next time I saw her, she had TWO orgasms (we did fuck twice though).
I’ve learned so much from you, CH. Ever think about writing a book?
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One time when she called me sobbing on the phone about some inconsequential bullshit I straight up told her that I’m not here to be her emotional tampon
yeah, girls have beta orbiters for that role.
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I always this “be her rock and just sit there and take it” attitude. The “comfort her” part is just icing on the cake. I’ve talked to women before and when these type of things happen, I never exactly felt like comforting her. More like giving her a slap across the face. Of course I never did. You already know what happens when you’re a guy and you hit a woman
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You already know what happens when you’re a guy and you hit a woman
vagina waterfall
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Not quite.
it usually involves the men in blue.
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Basically any man in the vicinity, whether he’s in blue or not
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only when the chick is setting up a sucker
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Just listening to a woman vent and calming her down in your very clam masculine voice can also work magic. You don’t have to slap her. You also don’t need to walk out on her, unless she is accusing you of something and being irrational. At that point, walking out until things settle down is much better than getting into a huge fight with someone who is being irrational. Once a couple of hours pass, most girls don’t even remember or care what bothered them. They are just happy to see you back. Although, old hag feminists never stop holding a grudge for a man..
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Yea comforting fun too your both on floor after she fell to her knees crying after she at the door and you said no i don’t want you to leave baby
and you hold her and let her sob uncontrollably and you are the rock and you let her spill the emotional bullshit out and hold her and give her love and your body is the cushion between her and reality
like the scene out of ransom mel gibson and his wife in movie cept without dude crying ok maybe a moist spot
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English, please.
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makes perfect sense to me.
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I feel like Gregi carries a nitrous tank with him at all times.
Don’t ever change, brutha.
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well former chicks female “friend” called her from my house today and put her on speakerphone got her to say she could get a grand for my cell phone and 10k for my gun she took from me for me to get it back
set her ass up for me to listen to
not very fun
she didn’t tell me that
nice that i have all the shit she cares about in my house
i guess make it an even trade
he he he
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dark triad ain’t got shit on this bitch she past it
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Crack ho’s, go figure.
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in her defense i did say i was gonna blow my brains out when she took it
things are always more complicated i suppose
plus took my pill bottles and shit that i could od on
i guess she kind of cured me of the suicide thing as well somewhat he he he
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like her friend said though what the fuck she is the best pickpocket and can take someones wallet take the money out and put it back wthout them knowing but my former chick must got a golden pussy and has a masters in manipulation
my former chick allready took her dude lol
ruthless
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Don’t you just love it!? (HUGS)
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non-sequitur game expert
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gonna love seeing my name on her forehead
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cool hug i didn’t even get sick
“hugs”
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Another two words: “zip it.”
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A beta here, struggling to turn into an alpha.
Here’s what I’m beginning to understand: basically, you don’t base your actions off of a female’s reactions. You do what you want.
Am I on the right track?
Here’s another concern I have. I just recently started implementing this stuff. I used to be really excitable and chatty and would talk about anything. But ever since I’ve started to improve my body language and talk slower, etc., I find that I’m not saying that much. Hence, there are instances where a couple of the chattier guys, even if they don’t have game, will talk a target’s ear off about anything.
Am I doing this wrong? Or is this a natural consequence of doing things right?
Please lay into me if you need to.
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There’s a reason women like a drawl.
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That is the truth, especially European women.
Mine is directly proportional to the amount of liquor consumed.
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“Am I on the right track?”
Yes .
To your second concern, read up on AMOGing. The true hotties will always attract a lot of attention so you need to know how to blow out the chattering competition and make it seem effortless.
Sometimes it’s as simple as grabbing her hand and leading her away from the crowd as if you own her. But most times it will require, at least, verbal confrontation.
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But don’t you just become one of “them” when you try to talk her ear off like the others? What I’m trying to reconcile is that they’re getting the attention from her by chatting constantly, but there must be something I can do/say rather than just sit back. Or maybe I should just sit back and not care and then when they’re all done, do something.
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Depends on what they are talking about. In many cases men don’t know how to communicate to women to trigger attraction…and most cases subdue attraction.
Talking is chick crack…but that doesn’t mean she’s attracted to him. He could be her emotional tampon. Hell you could do more to her by giving her a look while chatty cathy prattles on.
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Well, most of the time, I find it’s stuff like the news or random stuff online. I get bored of that stuff, so I can’t be bothered expending much energy to contribute.
So if talking is chick crack, am I doing it wrong by not talking so much? Because I used to be “that” guy, who talked about all this random crap nonstop. Of course, that meant hot chicks loved to talk to me, but no more than that.
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“Of course, that meant hot chicks loved to talk to me, but no more than that.”
Don’t you think you just answered your own question. She gets the thrill of attention and conversation, you get the blue balls.
It’s not really the amount that you talk…but how and what you talk about. Quality not quantity. Simply put…lead the conversation, don’t count on her to come up with topics, keep questions to a minimum and statements to a maximum. Discussing logical things like news, work, politics, religion, science…entice zzzzzzzzs in her brain. Discussing emotional things like people, food, places you visited, Disney characters, hypotheticals get you farther.
I swear one of the better conversations I had with a gal was how I would use her in a hypothetical bank robbing spree ala Bonnie and Clyde.
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Does talking about movies work or is that friend-ish? I guess I’m having trouble figuring out what would be conducive to triggering attraction.
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Talk about sex.
Nothing gets a man from B to A faster than this.
Talk about fucking and sucking as soon as possible to get, as soon as possible, her tail wagging in your face.
And then slip it in. It’s almost that simple.–
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Try Cold-reads, roleplaying, misinterpreting what she says in a sexual way, and qualifying her (these things all take her on an emotional journey).
Listen to this Mp3 from 44:20 and on where he describes examples of story-telling, cold-reading, roleplaying and misinterpreting:
[audio src="http://www.realsocialdynamics.com/realsocialdynamics.com_audio.mp3" /]
Go to Page 48 of this PDF and read the section on Chick Crack:
http://www.tropgentilpouretreheureux.com/download/TylerDurdenEssentials.pdf
The key thing is to push her through emotions. You can talk about World of Warcraft if that’s interesting to you, as long as you can make it emotionally engaging to her.
Got a MUCH bigger reply in moderation with some step-by-steps for ya, check back for it later.
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In fact I think of interactions with a female in these terms.
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“Here’s what I’m beginning to understand: basically, you don’t base your actions off of a female’s reactions. You do what you want.”
Yup. In every interaction, one person is reacting more to the other person. It might be 49.9% to 50.1% (two alpha bros shooting the shit with eachother), it might be 0% to 100% (nerd girl chasing football jock or Beta guy chasing cheerleader). The person who’s reacting more has, in that moment, lower value than the other person.
So when you let her lead the interaction and you’re basing and changing your actions, beliefs, values, etc. off what she throws at you, you’re reacting to her, and she can sub-consciously tell you’re lower value than her.
There’s room to tweak this, which is calibration. Like there are times you need to make extremely hard strides toward higher-value (negging a 10, etc.), and there are times to pull back and let your value sink a bit (self-conscious girl who thinks you’re TOO high-value to really be into her)…but this is the general rule and you learn that calibration through experience.
“Hence, there are instances where a couple of the chattier guys, even if they don’t have game, will talk a target’s ear off about anything.”
I use a combo of PUA tech. Let’s call this routine the “YaReally Interrupt” because as I write it I realize I really do do these exact steps consistently lol:
1) Say something directly to her with loud/assertive/breaking-rapport tonality.
2) Make that something offensive/accusatory so she HAS to react to me.
3) Stare her down with laser-fucking-eyes while she reacts so that the rest of the world fades into darkness around us.
4) Keep staring her down, don’t look anywhere but right into her eyes and cold-read her with a slight grin based on her reaction, but do it in a lower calmer voice like I’m bemused and just thinking out-loud.
5) Keep that eye-contact locked solid so when she can’t hear what I’m saying, just reach my hand out to her and when she takes it, pull her into me, eyes still locked, to THEN start running my normal game on her.
This works when the other guys are just talking about mundane shit and not actually attracting her, EVEN if they’re objectively better looking than you and she was attracted to him physically and EVEN if she’s actually INTO the conversation (just that while she’s into it, it’s not a conversation that involves emotional man-to-woman communication).
If the other guy has game and he’s actually spiking her temperature, she’ll stick with him…but if the other guys are just “chattier” than me, what happens is she realizes that even though I’m not saying much, what I’m saying carries more emotional impact and puts her on more of an emotional rollercoaster than what the other guys are talking about, which is what she wants, so she chases that and that’s why she keeps her eyes on me and comes to me when I reach my hand out.
I’m basically interrupting and then inviting her on a more fun adventure. Like a big-tittied sexy genie girl busting through the window on a magic carpet. Even if you were having an intellectually interesting conversation, are you gonna’ stand there talking about the weather or school with some ugly 4 you just met, or are you gonna’ go “holy shit yes I’ll come for a ride on your magic carpet, sexy genie!” and fly off into the night together? lol
The funniest part when you do this is that the other guys don’t understand all the little dynamics going on, because they legit thought they had it made with the girl since to a normal guy “being in a conversation with a girl” = “totally gonna get laid bro!!!!”. So they’ll KEEP trying to talk to her and KEEP trying to get her attention back, while your eyes are locked on eachother and it’s like literally, even if they’re objectively LOUDER than you in volume, she can’t hear them. They’re tuned out like white-noise and even when you talk quietly, she can hear you because she’s so focused on your interaction.
On top of this, their reacting to me and chasing her like that turns them into that 0% vs 100% up above so their value drops and mine is raised. And she’s reacting to me, so I have higher value. I’m reacting to nobody and making everyone else react to me, so I have the highest value of us all to her which again solidifies while she’ll tune them out (low value guys are invisible to girls) and willingly take my hand at the end.
It’s really fascinating the first few times you do it because it feels like a super-power lol It’s exactly like on a stage when all the lights go down except for a spotlight on just the two of you and all the extras on the stage fade away…except you’re creating this effect in the middle of a noisy bar.
So for me a common example of this is:
– Girl approaches one of my better-looking buddies, who doesn’t have game.
– He and her are making small-talk that has no emotional content. If they simply hang out the rest of the night and the planets align and no one interferes and logistics all work out magically perfect, she might fuck him.
– Till she hears “HEY. Why are you molesting my friend.” in a loud authoritative tone and has to turn and look at me and answer “I-I wasn’t I was just–”
– Still staring at her, but in a lower teasing voice with a slight half-grin “You’re trouble, aren’t you…”
– She goes “?? Whaaa…?” because she thought she was in trouble and now I’m grinning so she must not be in trouble but she thought– and now– and– and–…there’s that indication that I’ll be an emotional rollercoaster to interact with.
– Eyes still locked while my buddy tries saying some “witty” little chatty things trying to get her attention back, I say in a low volume “Come here.” and hold my hand out.
– She takes it and I pull her into me and put her arms on my shoulders and put mine around her hips and keep our eye-contact locked but lower my voice completely into a slow sexy bedroom voice that she can hear because we’re now face to face just a few inches from eachother, and I say “Ya…I know you’re trouble. You can’t fool me…what’s your name.”
And just run normal game from there.
I won’t do this to good buddies, but because I meet a lot of people and because I’m not as “manly” as a lot of them (MMA guys and rugged blue-collar types and shit) or rich as a lot of them (iBankers and Armani guys) etc., I’ll often be in situations where I’m hanging with AMOG guys who talk shit to me or try to tool me to girls or don’t respect me or flat out don’t like me etc. so I’ll use this on them. Or on random AMOGs that come up to try to take the girl or are already in the set. (but if they seem like a nice dude I won’t take their girl, I’ll wing the guy and run away ’cause that’s better karma)
And again, it won’t work if the guy has some basic game.
The way to counter my technique is to create more of an emotional reaction in the girl, which is why the gameless chatty guys can’t take her back from me…because they don’t have any physical game and are generally running Nice Guy compliment and “where are you from? cool I like stuff too!” game where they can’t touch the girl or be rude to other guys or dare risk upsetting her etc.
So a physical way to stop me would be to literally just stand between us and physically pick her up and carry her over their shoulder away from me (or turn her around) and break our line of sight so I don’t exist to her anymore, and then to run game on her.
A verbal way to stop me would be to create some drama and shout at her and try to make her cry lol “HEY. I thought you liked me, what the FUCK. What’s wrong with you, you’re just a drunk bar slut AREN’T YOU. No FUCK YOU, get the fuck out of here. You’re fucking done. I thought you were a cool chick.” and when she shits a brick and panics, interrupt her and do a 180 and go “Hey, I’m sorry, I just got out of a bad breakup. This chick cheated on me and broke my fucking heart. It wasn’t cool of me to take it out on you like that…you’re a cool chick, I’m just kind of fucked up right now. It’s complicated, you know? So where are you from?” and then transition into totally normal game AS IF NOTHING HAPPENED lol Congrats, you just took her on a way more chaotic emotional rollercoaster than I did, so you get her back from me. 🙂
The reason I don’t have to escalate it to that level of insanity right off the bat is because you just have to cause more of an emotional rollercoaster relative to the other guys/her friends/stimulus/environment around her. So a Beta Nice Guy is only giving her a 1, so I only have to give her a 3 or 4 to take her. But then to take her from me, a guy would have to give her a 6 or 7 because a ❤ won't cut it. To then take her back from him, I'd have to reach into the 9 or 10 zone which while attracting her, will also attract White Knights and Mother Hens lol and run the risk of getting my ass kicked by WKs, bitched out by MHs, or thrown out of the bar by bouncers.
If you want to fuck around, make a deal with your wingman to try to take girls off of eachother for a night lol Go in and open a set, and then have him try to take them from you, then try to take them back, etc. But have an agreement about it first so you both know it's all in good fun.
Shit, I wasn't expecting to give away this much of my game in this response lol ah well, take it and apply it. Use it for good, not evil! 😉
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And once you get it down…you pretty much know how they will react to anything you say. The two outcomes of any emotional type conversation with a chick are either feelings of euphoria or offense.
Sometimes I say things that cause them to get angry, drop their jaw, or cause them to playfully hit my arm because I want that to happen.
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So if they really do take offense/get angry, how do you recover from that?
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Frame control.
Hit YouTube and watch some RSD videos by Julien about “drama”. There are some by Tyler too like I think one called “knock her off the fence”.
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Frame control and hamster-fryin’ is required knowledge for men, especially those of us who have to deal with women in our workplaces.
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Frame control is basically this.
Your emotions are your own. Her emotions are hers. You don’t react to hers…she should react to yours or if she doesn’t, no big deal.
If you don’t feel offense to something (like you said something harmless and she took it out of context), don’t make her convince you that what you said wasn’t harmless. If you were happy about something you are talking about or doing…don’t change your tone just because she doesn’t like it.
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Jeez, what a great reply. You guys are great, especially yareally and taterearl. Thanks so much for your help.
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Since I’m still shedding my beta shell, to simplify things, what should I focus on? I’m working on body language, tone and pace of voice. I’m opening sets, but getting AMOG’d, so basically should I just start trying this emotional stuff out?
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There’s a lot to work on when you’re new, it can be overwhelming, so small-chunking it and just working on a couple things a night often helps. I did stuff like “okay for a month I’m going to ask for a # from every girl I talk to” etc to learn the calibration and all that.
Try some of that chick crack I linked. Pick a couple cold-reads you like and a roleplaying scenario and try using those on the next chicks you talk to. You can interrupt anything for it.
“Excuse me girls, can I get a–HEY…are you a Such and Such? No you totally give off that vibe. I bet you Bla Bla. Interesting…you know, you and I would never get along. We’re too similar. You wouldn’t take my shit and I wouldn’t take yours. We’d be that couple that always gets into fights in public and makes it awkward or everyone…but then we’d go home and have crazy hot make-up sex lol”
Don’t go in expecting this to just magically get you laid…go in with the notion that “okay I’m just doing an experiment to see what happens if I say/do this…it might go good it might go bad, it might go great and then i don’t know how to follow it up and I lose her…but that’s all good, this is all a learning experience. I’m just pushing some buttons and noting the reactions.”
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Focus on your mission and developing the masculine traits. If the byproduct is women becoming attracted to you…all the better.
That’s what I did.
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Hiroshima 65 years later vs. Detroit 65 years later. Yep. youtube.com/watch?feature=…10 minutes ago ”””””’
genious comparison
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Dropping the A-bomb was alpha
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Riding the a-bomb is alpha.
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“Shut up.”
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Question for CH: What is the value of: “Nothing serious.”?
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“Stop it” also works. Don’t shout it. Just say it firmly.
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Don Draper style. Betty- Stop it.
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I usually laugh in her face, though if she’s a little more heated I try to talk my way out of it. Retarted.
This is all I need now.
I fucking love using less words.
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Or you could get up, go out, call her and sing
Im on a boat…..and I fucked a mermaiiii-d…iii-ayy-iii-ayyy-iayyyd ;D
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oh shit lol
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Spot on, I’ve used ‘you done?’ in the past with great effect. I think a lot of times it comes as a natural response to a woman pissing you off with her drama, much like AA becomes a natural response (even a subconscious one) to any kind of negative comment from anyone.
It’s particularly good for relationship management and this line alone will keep your woman in line once she’s done venting to your unsympathetic ears. I’ve noticed that when it comes out due to actual frustration and a desire to leave her (whether temporarily or permanently), it can quickly not only end her bitching but make her do a 360 like a schizo, on the spot. It’s hilarious to watch it happen.
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Boom son!!! Pure gold!!
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“Like it matters.”
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Compulsive lying whale jailed for 11’th false rape accusation:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2284677/Compulsive-liar-jailed-making-ELEVENTH-false-rape-claim-innocent-man-decided-didnt-like-anymore.html?ICO=most_read_module
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I know only one word women need to hear….
Guess.
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I love you?
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Does it rhyme with tape?
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The one word women need to hear is guess?
I’d figured it would be plunder.
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“anal”
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Or else “empowerment”
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There’s no way it’s RAPE.
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‘gay’
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You’re on a roll this week
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“Listen you fuckers you screwheads ,Here is a man who would not take it anymore… who would not…Listen you fuckers you screwheads….Here is a man who would not take it anymore , a man who stood up against the scum, the cunts, the dogs, the filth, the shit….Here is someone who stood up!….Here is…..Huh!………Blam Blam Blam………
Travis Bickle…….
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“Are you done yet” has been used, quite effectively, I must say on me by the guy I had the affair with. The Professor that I am currently seeing has also refused to engage me then said he was “just letting” me “vent”. Frustrating but once I got it out I was better and I fully admit to some drama queen tendencies. Most guys can’t handle me all that well. It takes someone pretty strong.
“It’s complicated” coming from a man would make me think he was a bit of a wuss though. Too indirect and like a female. Mr. Affair guy would simply say “don’t question me” in an authoritative voice, lol.
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What do your children think about their mother being a slut?
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My children aren’t concerned about my sex life. I don’t meet men other than when they are visiting their dad.
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I do tell my 13 year old son that it is better not to make a commitment to anyone so that no one gets hurt unless you are really ready to settle down. He knows I see different men in a casual dating context. He has no problems with it. His attitude is very playerish already and he has a lot of girls that like him but I’m okay with that so long as he’s not hurting people.
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wow. No matter what you think or hamterize to yourself, he is not going to respect you for that at all. His relationships with women will be difficult.
My aunt was kind of a slut and I see how it affected her son….
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LOL I think its better for him to know that his single mom goes out on dates and comes back happy than to see me sitting at home waiting for prince charming to drop down out of the sky, lonely and miserable like a lot of single women appear to be.
He’s only met one of the guys that I see regularly and that is the Professor from my blog, who is a sweetheart to me and my kids and has bought them Christmas and Birthday gifts and taken us out for ice cream and stuff like that. My kids like him and think he’s cool.
He knows that the Professor is the guy I see the most but that we are not serious enough not to see other people. I don’t tell him we swing together or have an “open relationship”.
Is this a perfect scenario for a child? Perhaps not, but its also better than living in a home with two parents who don’t love each other or where there is a lot of unhappiness and strife. It’s better than me marrying the next guy who comes along and turns out to be an asshole of a stepdad. Its better than them getting attached to someone new and then going through another divorce. There are a whole lot of alternatives but none of them are that appealing.
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Sorry, I read the post on your blog, and people like you should not be breeding at all anyways. You sound like a white trash skank.
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lol one white trash skank telling another white trash skank she is a white trash skank
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Sorry, I read the post on your blog, and people like you should not be breeding at all anyways. You sound like a white trash skank.
You sound like a real gem. Put a smile on your face, it’ll make you look prettier. 😉
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“Is this a perfect scenario for a child? Perhaps not, but its also better than living in a home with two parents who don’t love each other or where there is a lot of unhappiness and strife.”
WRONG!!!!!! Nothing beats parents staying together where the kids are concerned. Nothing! Kids love to see their parents together, not with other people. All kids feel this way, unless they are autistic and don’t feel anything. So you are lying to yourself thinking your kids are OK with it. They are not. And you also probably think they are well-adjusted. Again, lying to yourself, or too stupid to see reality. Your kids probably have social problems too, and on their way to becoming misfits seeing their mother getting fucked by different men.
“There are a whole lot of alternatives but none of them are that appealing.”
No, you’re right; there are no alternatives for you, and by all means don’t get married again. You’re not marriage material.
The best remedy for you is someone needs to sew your pussy together, you unhinged harlot, just for the sake of your kids, if for nothing else.
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“He knows I see different men in a casual dating context. He has no problems with it.”
What? Your son knows his mama fucks men other than his daddy and you think it doesn’t affects him? Nothing is more damaging to a male child than knowing his own mama is a slut. There is nothing that could be compared to that kind of shock to the system of a child. OK, now do tell, are you a paid prostitute?
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A teenager in 2013 who is going to fall apart because his divorced mother goes on dates would be a weakling indeed. Fortunately mine are more resilient than that. No, I don’t mention that I am sleeping with men. The kids hear about movies we went to or what restaurant we ate at but I don’t talk to them about my sex life. Their father, on the other hand, is living with a woman. I suppose that will scar them for life… being its sex with someone other than their mom. EYEROLL….
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“I suppose that will scar them for life… being its sex with someone other than their mom. EYEROLL….”
The implication of one’s father living with a woman and having sex with her is not as bad as the implication of one’s mother fucking men, especially for a boy. A boy’s mom is like an asexual angel, a pure woman, so to think of his mom fucking men like a cheap slut is shocking. The fact you can’t see that is astonishing.
And if you think he doesn’t know what his dirty old mom does with men, you’re nuts. It’s obvious you don’t respect yourself, your body, or your image in your kids’ eye. Yep! It’s no fun for kids to face the reality their mom is a fucking cheap dirty old slut.
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I have no desire to raise sons who see any woman as an “asexual angel”. Those don’t exist. I’m not trying to teach them to pedestal asexuals. I want my children to have a healthy attitude towards both their own and other’s sexuality, to realize that all human beings have sexual drives and there is nothing wrong with that.
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and that’s the reason most kids with slut mothers like you, end up in trouble, either drug abuses or violence, not to mention dropping out of school and becoming lifelong losers. Once you had kids, you have a responsibility to set a good example; being a slut who has many men is not a good image for kids to see their mother as. You’re just a selfish ho, so you’re sacrificing their mental well-being for your thrills. Why did you even have kids if you are not into being a mother?
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and that’s the reason most kids with slut mothers like you, end up in trouble, either drug abuses or violence, not to mention dropping out of school and becoming lifelong losers. Once you had kids, you have a responsibility to set a good example; being a slut who has many men is not a good image for kids to see their mother as. You’re just a selfish ho, so you’re sacrificing their mental well-being for your thrills. Why did you even have kids if you are not into being a mother?
The reason most kids with single mothers end up in trouble has more to do with uninvolved fathers than whether or not their mother has sex. Kids are not thinking about whether or not their mom is having sex unless she’s making it blatantly obvious, which I am not. I don’t bring men to my home for sex when my children are here.
Children with an involved father, even when the parents get divorced fare much better. Mine, unfortunately aren’t that lucky. They have anger towards him for his abandonment but they are not angry with me because I’m the one here doing everything I possibly can for them.
What my children see is a mom who is here with THEM 95% of the time because I don’t have to put my all into a regular relationship with someone. They see me mainly going out with ONE man when they go to their dad’s house and know I occasionally go out on dates with others. Nobody is telling the kids about swinger parties. When they are all grown up, sure, I’ll be happy to share that info.
Asking a single mom not to have any outside adult contact and to pine after her ex husband for life is ridiculous. Get down off your high horse. You could someday be in a position like mine yourself.
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Get down off your high horse. You could someday be in a position like mine yourself.”””””’
a chink in the armour sad to see lily is dam near imposible to debate with though
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What do your children think about you being a harpy?
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To “Anonymous” I live in SWPL land, was born in SWPL land, raised in SWPL land by SWPL parents, got straight As in school and was a prep.
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I was no chaste maiden but I was certainly nothing close to being a skank and I was certainly never a promiscuous white trash whore having group sex and other such nasty things written on that blog.
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LMFAO!! I’m a bad, bad girl 😉 Having “dirty” sex as much as possible. GASP!!!! THE HORRORS!!!
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I really don’t understand how women can be proud, happy, and unashamed of being sluts and whores…
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I really don’t understand how women can be proud, happy, and unashamed of being sluts and whores…
Maybe because we are getting some. 😉
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Except that any woman can get laid as often as she wants and that isn’t really an accomplishment. For a woman, an accomplishment is to secure commitment from a high quality man. I mean you are sleeping with men you meet off the internet. And niggers at that. You are likely bedding the lowest of the low, the dregs of humanity. I don’t see how that’s an accomplishment.
I’m not sure why you even come on this website to brag about being a slut. Men hate sluts.
[CH: I wouldn’t call it hate. More precisely, men are indifferent to sluts, unless they are attractive or otherwise making themselves available. I’d say men’s feelings about sluts range from excited (yay sex coming soon!) to leery (do i want to date her and take her home to mom?) to disgust (you fucked *how many* men before you met me?). Hatred is a different emotion that femcunts like to toss around to describe any man who acts like a man and not a mewling suckup manboob..]
Personally I come on this site because it’s a good relationship advice site and heartiste talks about a lot of real world issues that I care about, being a traditional conservative, and he’s a wonderfully mocking writer. I also read posts on ‘game’ to gain insight into the male mind, and I read the comments because I am interested in what men truly think in their minds. I enjoy posters Kate, Flavia, Matthew King/King A, and Greg Eliot. I married a classic ‘aloof indifferent jerk’ type man who screws other women but expects sexual fidelity from me, and I do my best to keep him attracted as I age and hold our family together, try to keep my wits about me, try to learn how to be more feminine, and do what is best for my children and my family above all… I gain a lot of insight from this blog and its comments. That is why I come to the chateau heartiste and I read much much more than I actually post.
[Your wish is my demand.]
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I have a question actually. It is in regards to a woman’s 30s, 40s, 50s, and 60s.
What is best, and inspires more respect, for a woman? To try to hold on to the last of youth and sexiness with makeup and perhaps cosmetic surgery, or to eventually let go and slip into being matronly in ‘delicate old lady’ mode? And, if your answer is the second, at which decade should a woman attempt to make this switch gracefully?
[CH: Slipping into matronliness without a fight is just another word for laziness. There’s nothing wrong with a woman attempting to stay as attractive as possible throughout life. The problem comes when a certain age is reached that normal means of upkeep no longer have the intended effect, or worse, produce a new and frightening effect. See: cat’s eyes facelifts. The age at which intervention ceases to be effective at holding back the ravages of time varies, but generally, the age of total expiration is around 50 for most women. There are exceptions, of course (some Hollywood stars can look quite fuckable well into their 40s), but the majority of women will essentially become invisible to the leering eyes of most men by the time the 50th birthday is reached.
Note that this is not a reality which brings me any happiness. (Although I do extract plenty of happiness watching delusional liars attempt to grapple, in their own histrionic ways, with these ugly truths.) If the day comes that medical science will have discovered an intervention which would make 50 year old women look like their 20 year old bombshell selves, I will rejoice to the high heavens.]
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“MFAO!! I’m a bad, bad girl Having “dirty” sex as much as possible. GASP!!!! THE HORRORS!!!”
Dirty sex? Aren’t you at the point where sex is an embarrassment for a woman your age? Aren’t you supposed to prepare for old haggery and grandmotherly duties?
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“MFAO!! I’m a bad, bad girl Having “dirty” sex as much as possible. GASP!!!! THE HORRORS!!!”
Dirty sex? Aren’t you at the point where sex is an embarrassment for a woman your age? Aren’t you supposed to prepare for old haggery and grandmotherly duties?
I plan on continuing to have sex far into old age. When are you going to stop? At 30 so you won’t be an embarrassment like me?
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“If the day comes that medical science will have discovered an intervention which would make 50 year old women look like their 20 year old bombshell selves, I will rejoice to the high heavens.]”
Very interesting words. At least you’re not one of those negative/disparaging cynics. You’re hopeful, which is nice. You might be interested to know that medical science is hot on the trail of youth, looking for ways to reverse ageing.
Dr. Audry de Grey is spearheading the research. He wrote a book called
“Ending Aging: The Rejuvenation Breakthroughs That Could Reverse Human Aging in Our Lifetime”
http://www.amazon.com/Ending-Aging-Rejuvenation-Breakthroughs-Lifetime/dp/0312367074
http://www.sens.org/
“Slipping into matronliness without a fight is just another word for laziness. There’s nothing wrong with a woman attempting to stay as attractive as possible throughout life. “
ITAWY! Both my mom and my grandmother (who are fairly young) have this mentality of not going down without a fight. Eventfully, age will win out (unless there is a way to reverse ageing), but at least one has to do her/his best to stay looking good (and healthy) for as long as possible without looking like a freak, of course. There is no need to just resigning to old age and looking like an old lady, especially with today’s youth and health technologies that can keep us looking and feeling much younger longer, to the point of Scientists claim 72 is the new 30
Of course, that’s wishful thinking as far as looks go, but eventually, science might be able to remedy the looks aspect of ageing, not just the health.
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I mean you are sleeping with men you meet off the internet. And niggers at that. You are likely bedding the lowest of the low, the dregs of humanity. I don’t see how that’s an accomplishment.
Honey, the lowest of the low are people who look down on others based on such superficial nonsense as their skin color, who somehow feel that insulting them makes their own race look “better”.. That shows lack of class and it is an embarrassment to white folks everywhere that there are people like you in the world.There are a lot of people out there that you call “niggers” who are probably doing better than you.
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I’m not sure why you even come on this website to brag about being a slut. Men hate sluts.
If men hated sluts, they wouldn’t sleep with them. Truth be known they tell you that to keep you from having fun while they are off enjoying another woman’s skills in bed. That’s how women get into the position you are where their man is boinking the town while they sit at home depressed.
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Personally I come on this site because it’s a good relationship advice site and heartiste talks about a lot of real world issues that I care about, being a traditional conservative, and he’s a wonderfully mocking writer. I also read posts on ‘game’ to gain insight into the male mind, and I read the comments because I am interested in what men truly think in their minds.
“Game” is just white guys trying to imitate what men in the black community have known for a long time. Nothing wrong with that but pointing out that the skill set is being learned from the very people I see repeatedly being insulted on this site! White guys saw black men getting all the girls and having their way with women and wanted the same for themselves.
[CH: White men have had game long before extended contact with black men. See: Voltaire, Casanova, Don Juan, Benjamin Franklin. Game is not ghetto pimping, though it can be. It’s much broader that that. Though I can see why certain parties — white knights, tradcons — like to assume game is dysfunctional black behavior. It suits their agenda.]
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Except that any woman can get laid as often as she wants and that isn’t really an accomplishment. For a woman, an accomplishment is to secure commitment from a high quality man.
It really depends on if that’s what you are looking for. I had the long committment/marriage already and it felt like a prison sentence. At this point in my life I just want to have fun and enjoy new experiences.
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Your husband giving you a commitment doesn’t count, he was a beta. He wasn’t alpha enough to see that a woman of your type doesn’t deserve a commitment from any man. He is a loser just like you.
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Hmmm…. he may have had “beta” traits, but then most husbands do. Mine was at least quite handsome, and he was in ministry. I won’t say much about his loser status these days but when we were married, not so much.
I’m not sure what it is you think entitles you to “deserve” anything, but its certainly not your nasty attitude.
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“In ministry.”
There’s nothing like a current or formerly churchgoing female who catches a case of fuckitis.
Catholic and Mormon girls, daughters of the ministry, have a certain way with the cock, a certain blushing abandon, that nobody can deny.
A religious background, esp. a strict one, is an excellent indicator of the best kind of naughtiness.
When it comes to fucking, the sense of sin is the essential spice.
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I’m not really nasty to you. Telling you you’re a slut isn’t being nasty to you when you yourself practically say it yourself. And, if you didn’t have children, and 3 of them no less, you’re actions wouldn’t be bothering me so much. It’s just that being a slut when you have children is terrible.
Not all hubbies are beta, some are alpha who want kids. The trick for an alpha is to know when enough is enough. A man in his mid-30s better start thinking about settling down. if he doesn’t…well…. then, he either doesn’t want a family, or he is a perpetual lout. It might upset some of the guys here who think they can continue being cads forever, but hey, someone has to tell them the truth. Hell, even YaReally found himself a steady. That was music to my ears. Every man, no matter how alpha, needs a woman who gives a damn about him; someone to share good times with, someone to tell troubles to etc….what’s wrong with that?
However, your hubby is definitely a beta if he didn’t know your proclivities to sluthood. An alpha doesn’t marry an a slut, and he controls his wife enough to stop any sluhood form developing. That’s why I say he’s a beta.
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Don’t bring me into your retarded cat-fight.
I don’t plan to settle with my chick long-term (she knows this) and I have no intention of having kids in my 30s. A guy who takes care of himself can still get 20-25yos at 40. Plenty of time to play around still.
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@ YaReally
It really is a retarded cat fight, lol.
I didn’t say you are going to settle down, just that even you found the need to have a primary concubine, one that takes precedence over others. While you’re not going to settle down, it’s still one step closer. 🙂
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I’m not really nasty to you. Telling you you’re a slut isn’t being nasty to you when you yourself practically say it yourself. And, if you didn’t have children, and 3 of them no less, you’re actions wouldn’t be bothering me so much. It’s just that being a slut when you have children is terrible.
Sweetheart, go back and read your own comments and tell me they don’t sound like the words of a nasty judgemental bitch. Your tossing around insults and making all kinds of off the wall assumptions about someone you don’t even know. It’s not good for children to have a hateful mother that spews insults at others whilst not acknowledging her own faults. In other words, take the plank out of your own eye before trying to remove the speck from someone elses.
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“Are you done yet?” has been used on me by the guy I had the affair with, quite effectively I must admit and I do have some drama queen tendencies. For a guy to say “it’s complicated” though, I would think he was a bit of a wuss. That sounds too much like something a female would say. Mr. Affair guy simply stated, “DON’T QUESTION ME”.
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I figured all he had to say was “bend over.”
He’s working too hard.
RAPE!
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I’m quite happy to bend over when he asks me to 😉 Jealous much? 😉
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This is the correct response.
Kudos.
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Why do you feel the need to project how sexually desired you are to random men on the internet? This is mostly a relationship advice blog, at least that’s what I thought it was…
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I think you are over-reacting.
I am projecting nothing. I am here to help the less alpha oriented males, nothing more.
And you are here for?
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No, not you Mike lol the girl who got angry when the girl in the masculinized female post was made fun of.
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slag’s gonna slag
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lmao rofl. oh what a silly, low I.Q. whore.
My point was that you are such an easy little slut that you neither deserve nor warrant any explanation for any action by a man. You will happily spread your legs for any man who pushes you over. His three word explanation was too much work for an easy chick like you. Hell, he should have just cracked you across your face if he wanted silence and your panties down. Arab style.
And sweetie, are you so deluded you think someone would be jealous of a man getting submissive sex from an over-the-hill, stretch-marked covered old whore? lol. Honey, half the guys here could nail your sloppy ass tonight and be ordering you around before the sun comes up, and the other half would just need a second date to do the same. Think about it–you’re not even a challenge for a beta.
Making an old slut into your bitch—that’s not an accomplishment. That’s a Tuesday.
lol. Spin, hamster, spin!
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Keep dreaming sweetheart. Maybe one day you’ll get lucky and an over the hill, stretch marked old whore will give you a chance.
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Keep dreaming sweetheart.
—More like a nightmare: “Help, I’ve fallen, and I can’t get laid! No, the whore doesn’t count, I just tripped and fell into her gaping vagina!”
Maybe one day you’ll get lucky and an over the hill, stretch marked old whore will give you a chance.
—Honey, you never just give a man a chance. You just unzip his pants and jump onto his cock when he’s not looking. The only “chance” he has is that you took your Valtrex.
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Dearie, you’re an easy ho, face it. You don’t even pose a challenge to a beta. What do you think your old man professor thinks of you? You’re an easy venue for him, nothing more. I imagine, as soon as you guys get within arm’s length of each other, you drop your panties for him. He doesn’t even have to wine and dine you, or spoil you like a man will do with a girl who is much younger, much hotter, and with a much higher sexual value. You’re a cheap slut.
LOL! And thinking that your used and abused old loose soiled and STD-ridden pussy is worth even 10 cents, is astonishing. Hell, it’s not even worth screwing. Where do women your age pick up such brazenness? That old professor must be real desperate. Is he in his 80s by any chance?
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Dearie, you’re an easy ho, face it. You don’t even pose a challenge to a beta. What do you think your old man professor thinks of you?
I think he thinks I’m a lot of fun 🙂 He also thinks I’m sexy and great in bed, he’s said so many times and he likes spending time with me.
You’re an easy venue for him, nothing more. I imagine, as soon as you guys get within arm’s length of each other, you drop your panties for him.
Sometimes. 🙂 Not sure why I’d want to hold out on a guy I see regularly. Sounds like some kind of lame game you want me to play. No point in that.
He doesn’t even have to wine and dine you, or spoil you like a man will do with a girl who is much younger, much hotter, and with a much higher sexual value. You’re a cheap slut.
Actually, he does spoil me a bit! I love it!! He always pays for everything, buys presents for me and my kids and gives me little surprises. He’s awesome like that! 🙂 He’s made dinner for me and taken me out on dates. We have a great time together.
LOL! And thinking that your used and abused old loose soiled and STD-ridden pussy is worth even 10 cents, is astonishing. Hell, it’s not even worth screwing. Where do women your age pick up such brazenness? That old professor must be real desperate. Is he in his 80s by any chance?
I’m not selling my pussy for money so I’m not sure what it would be worth, but I do know that the men in my life enjoy it. 🙂 I don’t know how old you are that you think I am so “old” but I’m 36. Not exactly ancient yet, lol. The professor is 44. He’s sexy and I adore him. He also likes to brag about me being younger than him even though I don’t see it as a huge age difference.
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its really all about the klegals on pussy
ya can keep it in shape by workin it out
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Southern (and European) bravery and physical prowess make God’s chosen people feel very inadequate.
Case in point: this article.
http://noahpinionblog.blogspot.com/2013/02/movie-review-django-unchained.html?showComment=1361926940666#c4117250967885967704
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Open borders = beta
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There was an article on vdare.com once called something like “Nice Guys Get Illegal Immigrants”
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Are all the blog posts leading to this sort of thing
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2284677/Compulsive-liar-jailed-making-ELEVENTH-false-rape-claim-innocent-man-decided-didnt-like-anymore.html?ICO=most_read_module
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Hollywood’s “Django Unchained” and Cathedral commentary are attempts to coerce White behavior with fraudulent reward offer:
It’s more about modeling European (in this case German) behavior. Rewarding altruistic behavior as “good,” denigrating group solidarity.
It is telling Germans and other Whites, see, this is how you will get higher status and be rewarded: sacrifice your lives and nations for the benefit non-Whites.
As Whites cede control of the United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and even Germany, and give their lives in military actions against Israel’s rivals, cui bono, in the end?
http://noahpinionblog.blogspot.com/2013/02/movie-review-django-unchained.html?showComment=1361927395605#c3817698105149369505
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Yes.
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[…] a better way. Alpha males in the audience will know …read more Source: Chateau […]
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I was wondering if
“you done?” or “good” we’re useful things to tell dudes when thier up in your face, but would a variant of ‘cool story bro’ work better?
And more importantly, would igornitg the guy work even better?
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Her: *Long tearful rant about what an insensitive beast I am, how I never listen, how I don’t take her problems seriously, that she’s going to leave if I don’t share my feelings or tell her what I’m thinking on demand*
Me: “Okay.” Remain silent until tantrum burns itself out. Smile benevolently when she inevitably apologizes for her attitude.
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I love this blog.
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a few years back, i dont know where this came from but i had some kind of natural swag because i was the foreign guy, it gave me the confidence to speak my mind.
her: but.. but…. what are we.
me: hey.. stop it, if you dont know, then why should i know?
for a moment i tought she would kill me, well turns out, we fucked a ,lot more.
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Being a foreigner is very underrated for getting laid. And it helps to learn game overall, since you’re “stranger in a strange land”, can observe things from a more outside angle, and try things you normally wouldn’t try.
Studying in Italy during college really helped me to improve my game, although I didn’t apply it’s lessons till later.
What’s more, foreign guys get a huge pass on what they can say, merely because the accent affects girls weirdly. I call it the Hugh Grant effect: dude says very raunchy/nasty/stupid things, but because he’s got the English accent, he gets labelled a cute moppet and not asshole.
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There are 3 words in “it’s complicated”.
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“Whatever you say”
“You done?”
“Myeah shut up see”
*get up and leave*
“Okay”
*stare into there face with no emotion, stare right through*
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Another good hamster pellet is “suit yourself”. It’s almost as good as “f. you” without the butthurtness.
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I’ve been using “Shut up, Maya” lately. It’s awesome.
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That’s just… they should’ve sent a poet.
I can’t work out whether this site is intentionally or unintentionally brilliant, but reading it does make me wish I could suck my own cock. Which I definitely didn’t anticipate. You talk about elevating the discourse!
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O.T: Minority Rule: The Rise of Political Correctness.
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“I’m done.” ,[ as you bust on her face ]
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/delaware-teen-usa-resigns-porn-video-surfaces-article-1.1274192
the video:
http://stepsmut.com/melissa-king-miss-teen-delaware-porn/
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Can anyone give advice on gaming very feminine, almost wispy, women. Can we have some posts that concern gaming women who are more reserved and skeptical rather than aggressive? That is, white neo-hipster, art, design and minimalist-literature types, with perhaps a certain ambiguously asiatic quality?
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Conversation.
Get her to talking about herself, since most women like that topic. Keep the thought going and slowly include more erotic topics. Don’t go overboard though because you will scare them away.
Yours is a very elusive prey. You must keep them intrigued with your wit and charm.
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They like jerks like anyone else. sorry.
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Jack Nicholson just being good o’l Jack, hitting on titillating new starlet Jennifer Lawrence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJmhsJ5T5L0 Starts at 0:30.
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Surely there are caveats?
Girl: “I don’t like how you ignore my issues. I feel ignored and neglected.”
Him: “You done?”
Girl: “I’m done with you.” *walks away*
Or is the hamster all-powerful?
[CH: Lame, troll. Lame.]
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Her issues are usually petty….and in the back of her mind I think she knows that.
Besides, I have my own issues to deal with…I don’t have time to play therapist to somebody else’s issues.
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Of course that happens… but you forget the bit where she comes back within 24 hours and makes love to him.
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I remember what my boyfriend said the first time I spoke to him about relationship status. “I love my wife” while making clear and deliberate eyes at me.
[CH: No wonder you fell for him.]
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I like to think that I love my boyfriend for all the good reasons to love him, but who knows. Maybe I do love him because he gave me a pack of skittles just to be cagey, so to speak.
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you don’t even need to use words, i find doing an air violin works just as well. sometimes it’ll initially piss off girls even more, but that just means angrier makeup banging.
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One word game: I used this, instead of “You done?”
“Finished?”
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Usually, I don’t use words when this is going on.
Touching her suggestively while she is ranting tends to calm the hamster. It is a stick in the old hamster wheel most of the time.
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I have a 4G wireless modem and use Chrome. For the last couple of weeks this web site takes forever to load, or won’t load at all. However, I just got through on Netzero dial-up. What’s up with that?
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For one, Chrome sucks balls.
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http://lightbox.time.com/2013/02/27/photographer-as-witness-a-portrait-of-domestic-violence/#1
Might be interesting CH if you did a blog post on this. I’m sure you’ll find a lot to say.
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Yup.
Had a girl I was seeing try to use my coffee mug (no one uses it but me and she knew it). She shit tested me then got bitchy. I finally had enough and told her I was calling her a cab (I usually drive her home), and she called me out.
Once she heard me actually talking to the dispatcher, she did a 180 and became a little lamb. When I cancelled the cab I asked her-
You done being an asshole? Cuz I don’t need this shit.
Checkmate.
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“Did you fart?” is a great argument destroyer with chicks both young and old because anything fart related is hilarious. My all time favorite prank while driving with chicks in my car is locking out the passenger window controls then letting one rip. The louder the better. Immature? Absolutely. Chicks love it though
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Terrance & Philip game. Nice.
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Return of the Jedi: Jabba the Hut laughs off the bounty hunter holding a hand grenade: ‘this is my kind of scum!’
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Off Topic: Pimping ain’t easy http://money.cnn.com/2013/02/27/technology/social/pimps-social-networks/index.html?hpt=hp_c1
The first “victim” is an especially egregious story, makes an excellent case for women’s lack of responsibility.
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yea yea yea poor woman meme
naa man its the woman with the power
really its poor dudes they the ones usually going to jail and shit getting shot and shit
the poor little woman always gettng away with shit
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that big pink heart now that is some peacocking he he he
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Sometimes I use one word: “Finished?”
On the subject of phrases every man should know, I have a personal favourite four word phrase:
“You know I’m right”
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Excellent!
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[…] (of course this was justified by the immense stress I am under, lol) – when I read this post Two Words Women Need To Hear… well Henry must have been reading it at just about the same time because no sooner had I […]
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Ha, this is awesome. I’ve actually used variations of this on women I know, but of course they just get confused by the fact I’m not hugging them or offering a pint of Ben & Jerrys. Since I was in middle school, I’ve realized I have no time for female crap, and have acted accordingly by not pursuing female friendships. Life is 1000x better without estrogen enhanced drama!
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“After she has spent herself (momentarily, at any rate, for a woman’s DQQ energy reserves are nearly inexhaustible), gaze at her lazily and say,
“You done?”
…
You may not want to stick around after dropping this bomb.”
No shit. Heck, I used to kick back and have a beer while my ex ranted/screamed/cried/whatever (yes, over nothing) and then ask “Are you done?” Thrown shit. Yup. (Don’t take that either.) Call her on it, don’t cave. Bat that thrown stuff aside tell her to stop it ’cause you know she’s just pissed you didn’t buy her crap.
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[…] I pooped. Related: Two words women need to hear: You done? […]
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You Done game is legit, but most guys learning it by rote like this will misuse it. You have to pick your battles. Picking your battles properly is nine tenths of wearing the pants successfully.
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[…] it’s going to be and that’s that. Oh, the wives might fight, but it’s one sided. The man bemusedly tolerates her rant and when she’s done, she confesses how dumb it was. Also her talk of fantasy relationships is […]
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[…] What are you so worked up about?- “You done?” […]
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[…] believe what he actually had the nerve to ask me. He actually said “You done” – from a post I had passed onto him a while back. He used it on me!! And he followed it up with a smug half […]
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