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Comment Of The Week

March 3, 2013 by CH

The COTW goes to winner

Uncle Elmer confesses:

I like to watch Vietnamese travelogues with ForeignBride while she gently massages my loins. The food variety is epic.

Some comments win on substance. Others on the style with which the words trip psychedelically off the tongue. This week’s winner is firmly in the latter category.

Runner-up comment winnner

James waxes lyrically and substantively:

PUAs talk a lot about stripper game because it’s so hard. A whiff of beta or the slightest bend to your frame, and you’re just a customer to her again.

They have so many interactions that they’re really calibrated.

Plus all game is just flipping the script on women, and stripper game is apex of flipping the script. She comes to you looking for money. You give her none, and fuck her. Using only words and actions. It’s beautiful, in its way.

It is beautiful, in its way. The seduction of a guarded, self-patrolled, high stakes, manipulative sexy temptress who eats beta male hopes and wallets for a living, using nothing but your wiles and wisdom, is animated poetry most men will never get to experience for themselves.

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  1. on March 3, 2013 at 12:47 pm n/a

    After white jeans it’s time for black panties.

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    • on March 4, 2013 at 8:11 pm Uncle Elmer

      Q : How do you make a hormone?

      A : Pull down her genes.

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  2. on March 3, 2013 at 12:49 pm Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh

    Both are very insightful, albeit in a weird way.

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    • on March 4, 2013 at 8:49 am Zombie Shane

      Skechers Is Selling A Shoe Called ‘Daddy’$ Money’ To Teenage Girls

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      • on March 4, 2013 at 12:13 pm Zombie Shane

        Boomer divorce: A costly retirement roadblock

        Baby Boomers are divorcing at a surprising rate, and that will have huge implications for their lives in retirement.

        The number of divorces among people 50 or older doubled from 1990 to 2010. And in that year, one in four U.S. divorces was in that age group…

        …it’s a problem for everyone involved. Here’s why.

        That pool of money that was going to fund retirement for a couple will now be split in half, and must now fund retirement for two people living separately. That costs a lot more. And that means people must either temper those retirement lifestyle expectations or delay retirement altogether.

        “You have the same pool of assets that has to sustain two sets of retirement,” says Joe Sicchitano, senior vice president and head of financial planning at SunTrust Bank. “It can undermine good planning. You can have a well thought-out plan, and it will be undercut by divorce.”

        The biggest problems, say planners, is it costs considerably more to retire as two single people as opposed to a couple. Jason Wheeler, CEO of Pathfinder Wealth Management in Wilmington, N.C., says it will cost 30% more. Joe Duran, financial planner and author of The Money Code, says it will cost at least 50% more to retire for Boomers who divorce…

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      • on March 9, 2013 at 2:01 pm DarkTriad

        I wonder which gender will be expected to “temper their retirement lifestlye expectations” and which will be expected to work till the die.

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  3. on March 3, 2013 at 1:03 pm santa666

    Stripper game:

    “If it’s a girl we’ll name her tracee after you… this way she can grow up to be a cocksucking slob just like her mother.”

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    • on March 3, 2013 at 1:29 pm gunslingergregi

      don’t cheat on or beat a bitch especially if you end up staying with her she will use that shit the rest of your time together as leverage against your soul
      now if you can remain calm when your pissed and then later give her the option of some remedial punishment or never seeing her again might be a diferent story cause you both rational at that time

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      • on March 3, 2013 at 2:23 pm santa666

        Ralphie’s stripper game was tight right up until he snapped and beat her to death.

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      • on March 3, 2013 at 2:58 pm gunslingergregi

        don’t think beat to death strippers little tougher than that and she will be right back in his face after she heals lol cause they tough as fuck

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      • on March 3, 2013 at 4:10 pm Hugh G. Rection

        A) She was a whore (pronounced hewer)
        B) She hit him!

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      • on March 3, 2013 at 8:02 pm santa666

        All strippers are hewahs. Getting a hewah to give it up for free is a mark of tight game.

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      • on March 4, 2013 at 4:49 am Hugh G. Rection

        I was merely pointing out why he had to kill her.

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  4. on March 3, 2013 at 1:54 pm gunslingergregi

    http://wonderwall.msn.com/music/rihanna-is-committed-to-chris-brown-dreams-of-becoming-a-mom-23965.gallery#!wallState=0__%2Ftv%2Fcarmen-electra-tries-her-old-baywatch-swimsuit-on-for-size-23934.gallery

    rianna wants chris baby
    ya know i look at the pics and it looks like love i’m rootin for em

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    • on March 3, 2013 at 5:07 pm HerpDerp

      Can someone please tweet at Rihanna about this. The reason she hasn’t gotten beaten again is because he doesn’t love her anymore.

      She is older, less hot, and much less desireable to other men. Therefore, Breezy is no longer as sexually jealous, and not beating her.

      The science is with me on this, younger, hotter women are usually the female victims of domestic violence, and the male motivation is usually sexual jealous.

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      • on March 3, 2013 at 11:32 pm PetiteOlive

        um…no.

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    • on March 3, 2013 at 5:41 pm Kate

      from her new song “Stay”

      “Oh the reason I hold on
      Oh cause I need this hole gone
      Funny you’re the broken one but I’m the only one who needed saving…”

      So sad 😦

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      • on March 3, 2013 at 8:43 pm realmatt

        If by ‘sad’ you mean ‘funny as fuck’ then I agree.

        Her situation is not sad. She’s stupid and worthless and he’s a dumb skinny ass nigger that no one will give a shit about in a few years.

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      • on March 3, 2013 at 11:32 pm PetiteOlive

        Indeed….such a raw song.

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  5. on March 3, 2013 at 2:03 pm abe

    haha CH your writing style is the clutchest, props bro

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    • on March 3, 2013 at 11:33 pm PetiteOlive

      clutchest….nice one abe, I will be adding “clutchest” to my vocab 🙂

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  6. on March 3, 2013 at 2:18 pm Scray

    FR —>

    The week in general has been good. Personally, I’m starting to think that a lot of this boils down to frame control. It’s such a weird, simple thing. So, anyway, I’m starting to expand my circle of friends. Like, now instead of just walking with that one girl out of class, I make sure the entire group walks with me. And a quick exchange the other day made me realize that this shit is mostly about hanging on to your identity.

    Me: Hey man what’s your last name, I’ll add you on fb or something
    Dude: Oh yeah, it’s cubanlastname…
    Me: Oh, hey wasn’t Ricky Ricardo cuban…or was that puerto rican? He played the bongos. (me asking to entertain myself, everyone else thinks it’s funny)
    Natural: What the fuck, oh yeah…what if I just was like…hey Scray, you black, OJ was black.
    Me: Nah…it has to be a positive person. Like, Scray, you’re part black? MICHAEL JORDAN IS BLACK, WOWOWOWOOWWOOWOWOWOWOW!
    (Everyone laughs)
    Girl: See, this is why we’re more likely to get mugged with you around.

    In the past I would have been upset by this comment. Like ‘why don’t you liiiiiiike me.’
    Me: Ya, totally. We’ve already been mugged like 8 times by ravenous integrated cuban-black gangs on the warpath. (smirk)
    Natural: (laughs) Fucken Scray…

    I endeavor to just entertain myself at this point. Like, it’s just funny to say ‘I love you’ to girls in my social circle. What’s weird is that, when I first started this off, there were a few girls who were like…I don’t want to say ‘creeped’ out by me kind of hitting on them but definitely not really receptive. Now that I just do it to everyone and have light, fun interactions, those same people are like ‘well now I don’t feel special..’ or ‘wait, I thought you loved me…’ or ‘you loved me first!’ Especially when they’re in the presence of another girl who’s really eating up the ‘love you/we’re soulmates’ bit. Thus far my response is just to pretend like I don’t even remember saying it to them in the first place. Even the appearance of pre-selection seems to be a big switch.

    It’s way better to have a reputation as a guy who hits on a lot of girls than as a nothing. Of course, the best reputation would be a guy who hits on a lot of girls and has sex with a lot of girls 😀

    I’m also starting to plan hangouts, which apparently is pretty important. Good practice in general.

    Thurs:
    I hangout with this soft5/4.5/4 (Idk, she’s like a shapeshifter); I just kind of say whatever I want with her. She’s pretty into me, but I’m after her friend HB6Lovely. We get lunch, talk about stuff — I make sure to be real flirty and stuff. She wants to hang out more, but I cut the interaction short.

    The night’s kind of wasted because Nightly can’t go out, and I get dragged to a bar by my friends. It was a fun bar, and I had a good time meeting new people.

    Friday:
    One of our friends, TinyCute6, is visiting town and throws herself a birthday party at a bar/club. In one of my earlier field reports, this is the one who I said didn’t respect me as a ‘man.’ So, this time, I get there…and the vibe is different. Lots of hugging, and one of the girls I say ‘love you to’ is also there. Naturally, I immediately start with the roleplay again. Just fun banter. TinyCute gets my attention to ask if I’ve been working out. I nod, and she says she can tell. She does some stupid dance move and I’m like ‘do that again.’ And then she says ‘you wish, it was the greatest ever.’ Me: ‘prove it. (smirk)’ Then she leads me to the dancefloor. Sudden spike in buying temperature?

    Fuck if I know. It happens too fast for me to take much advantage of the situation. Or…actually, we get to the dancefloor and we’re close and she does the dance move. Now, I can dance, but I’m just too much of a pussy to see how far I can escalate this. Mostly because our friends can see us, and a rejection here would be a massive DLV. So, my optimal response in this spot?

    ‘I give it a 5-6.’ then smirk and leave her there, dancing. If I can’t muster up the balls to escalate, at least C&F and leave or something. Idk.

    Saturday:
    Finally me and Nightly get it together to go out and cold approach. However, we get there late…we’re talking like 1230. Nightly doesn’t believe me, but I swear by Odin’s beard that the real talent leaves by 11-12. I notice a huge difference in the after hours versus the earlier hours. As the night goes on, the hot babe resource pool slowly shrinks until every halfway decent babe has legions of satellite chodes in orbit.

    I realize that the only way to actually quell my AA is to do a warm-up set. Me and Nightly walk into our first venue, and he opens after almost no time. Since he’s only talking to one girl, I just say ‘hey I’m gonna find Nicole brb’ to leave him with this girl.

    On my pass back from the bar, I open a 4 and a 5. It’s the ‘best friend died..’ my delivery is getting better. They’re having a good time. The 4 seems real into telling me how fucked up it is, but I’m not really paying attention to her. There’s a guy there in the set, I tell him the same thing. He wants to get into a deep discussion about it. The interaction is going well. My state is pumped. And so, in the middle of it — because I didn’t come out to talk to 4’s and 5’s — I leave.

    I notice that at this time of night, all the hot girls are in mixed sets. I’m too much of a pussy to open those. So…we go to another bar. I open a set…a 4 and her 7.5 friend. Logistics force me into closer proximity to the 4 than the 7.5. I deliver the best friend dead opener. The 7.5 and the 4 both frown at me. I just smirk back. Let’s see who blinks first. The 7.5 rolls her eyes and turns away, but the 4 is more willing to chat. Blah blah blah, my strategy here with the 4 is just to try and chat her up and bust on her friend. I try this, the 4 laughs at my jokes, but the 7.5 just sits there, steadfast in her looking away resolve. The 4 finally interjects, “yeah she and her husband are fighting.”

    Me: That girl is MARRIED? HAHAHHAAHA, NO WONDER!
    7.5 turns around and kind of shakes her head at me
    Me: Sup. (smirk)
    7.5: You should just leave.
    Me: (to the 4) Is she always like this? (even though it’s a classic PUA line, I actually just said it because that’s how I felt lol)

    The 4 kind of shrugs with a bit of laughter. I don’t know what to do, so I just eject. Goddammit. Essentially got told to leave and left. Phuck.

    Guess who’s at this bar upstairs? HBLovely6, Friendly4, and — oh shit, THEY have hot friends too? So both of them are all on me and stuff. I don’t really even focus on it, and instead, I start talking to their friends — an easy 7 and an 8 (there’s another 7.5, but Nightly starts talking to her).

    I notice that, although I have a stack, when I’m in the presence of legitimately attractive girls, I find myself running out of shit to say. Like I just forget what comes next. This is technically a warm approach, and I didn’t get to open with a joke or anything. I kinda was just like ‘hey who are you, I know you know them, but they’re being rude and won’t introduce us.’
    Keep in mind, that at odd intervals Friendly4 and HBLovely6 are touching me and talking about how much they love me or whatever. So like, it was a funny interaction, because here I am trying to do this digit ratio/you’re the dominant one and you’re the submissive one stuff, and they’re just giving me this strange look. Like, they can’t quite understand why their friends seem so into me. I’m not saying they were going crazy with attraction, but the entire vibe I got from them as I was talking was…’who is this strange person?’ Kinda like I was some sort of new cell a scientist was looking at under a microscope.

    I stumble over my words at some point…and just at that time Friendly4 actually steps in. I’m pretty sure that she was jealous I was talking to her friends, rather than her. So, I just go with my same attitude I have — it’s not like I’m not going to never see these people again. Just bounce on a high note.

    Me and Nightly go downstairs. I see two tall girls — 6-6.5. Best friend died opener. I fumble the delivery, and the 6 is like ‘that’s a terrible joke.’ I’m like ‘hahaha, I’m just fucking with you, he isn’t dead…’ but the way it came out wasn’t correct. It was supplicating. I could feel it. The other one starts to give her answer, but — and maybe this was a premature ejectuation — I just turn like I got distracted by something and buzz off. I talk to Nightly for a few seconds, then he opens a one set. I decide to leave, but this time, I don’t say anything.

    I run into HBLovely6 and co. again — it’s crowded as hell, and I’m just looking around for a set to open. AFC phalanxes guard almost every set at this time of night. So anyway, I forget what happened but Friendly4 did the whole ‘break up with me’ thing for some reason. And then HBLovely6 is like ‘ya that threesome isn’t happening now.’
    Me: Ya, now it’s a twosome (smirk)
    Then Friendly4 and her immediately make up with me, take pictures with me, are all touchy. Lol, what’s funny is that I know 100% that I can bang Lovely, and I find myself growing less interested. I mean….I’ll shoot her a text probably and see what’s up, but I think it’s like 70-80% it’s on. And I know that if I don’t act on all of this touching and shit soon, it’ll all be for naught. For now, I just follow my rule of ‘if you don’t know how to escalate, take it further, be cooler…leave…be scarce.’ So I do just that. I actually hear HBLovely6 say ‘oh Scray is just too cool for us, other bitches to bang…he was laughing and talking with some other girls downstairs.’

    Lol@perception.

    Finally, in another spin through the venue, Nightly spots a group of three insanely hot girls. Nosering8.5 is my target. I’m really attracted to her. Like it’s beyond just she’s an objective 8-8.5. I’m really digging her look and her vibe. So, here I go to the bar and open over the shoulder. Nosering8.5 is talking to Whiteshirt7.5…..Whiteshirt immediately turns away after my opener. Nosering8.5 has a shocked reaction to my opener, and I soften it up by saying I’m fucking with her. I also notice that I immediately…like WAY TOO FAST…turn toward her. She gives me her answer….and I freeze up.

    Me: Oh yeah, did your nose ring tell you that answer (wtf DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURF)
    Her: What? Uh yeah…
    Me: I like your nosering (HERPITY DERPITY HERPY DERP DERP)
    Her: Thanks…
    Me: (goes to the bar, still under the effects of paroxysmal retardation)

    Nightly: I LIKE YOUR NOSE RING….AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
    …those girls were fucking fine as fuck though.

    We bounce from that venue. We’re walking on the street, and suddenly Nightly is like ‘hey this three set over here is yours.’ It was a three set…mixed bag. Petite6, 4, 5. Nothing special. Here we go…

    Me: Best friend opener…(their eyes widen, and then…)
    First-set4.5: (on the street a few feet away, pointing) STOP ASKING THAT QUESTION, IT’S A FUCKED UP QUESTION!
    (I look over at her…oh shit, lol what are the odds. I point at her, grinning)
    Me: WHO ARE YOU, THE FUCKED UP POLICE? QUIT STALKING ME!
    (The Petite6 seems to know the 4.5, and the Petite6 wanders closer to the 4.5…so I walk over there)
    Me: (the 4.5 is being fat talkin about how fucked up I am, blah blah blah…I focus on the other one) So who are you?
    Petite6: Her friend
    Me: Wow, get some fucking self-esteem already…(to the 4.5) IS THIS HOW YOU TREAT YOUR FRIENDS? I ASK FOR NAMES AND IDENTITIES, AND ALL THEY CAN SAY, IS ‘YOUR FRIEND.’
    4.5: What, she has a lot of self-esteem?!
    Me: SILENCE, I’m not going to be a party to your mental trickery.
    Petite6: Hey, look…..just don’t be fucked up.
    Me: I don’t take orders from fun nazis.
    Petite6: Oh my god, this guy
    Me: Oh my god, this guy
    Petite6: You’re just like
    Me: You’re just like
    Petite6: (snickers) Wtf why is he…
    Me: Wtf why is he…
    Petite6: (Turns to her friend) …copyingmesomuchohmygod!
    Me: (pause, smirk) You look real stupid right now.
    Petite6: Don’t be so childish
    Me: MAKE ME
    Petite6(turns away to laugh)
    4.5: Yeah this city is REALLY SHADY…JUST SAYING
    Me: Ya, totally.
    4.5: And some of the people are really shady.
    Me: I’m a motherfucking umbrella.
    Petite6: You’re kind of shady.
    Me: Prove it. (she blinks…but it’s because she doesn’t know how to react to me…ah finally, this reaction. I turn to 4.5) Let me guess, you guys are from the burbs and can’t handle yourselves on the street?
    4.5: This place doesn’t have suburbs.
    Me: WHAT THE FUCK? HAHAHA RIDICULOUS
    (I actually start to walk away, right then and there. fuck it. They call me back, blah blah blah we’re girls who can yell, blah blah blah. I walk back and point at Petite6)
    Me: You know what you are? You’re a nonsense person. That’s the WORST kind of person. (smirk)
    Petite6(looks deathly serious all of sudden, gets in my face, arms folded) Okay, you need to walk the fuck away. Just walk the fuck away, seriously.
    Me: (oh shit, have I misread the vibe) Is that right?
    Petite6(Gets closer, looks pretty fucking pissed) Yeah. Step off little guy.
    Me: (I’ve already been told to leave and left once tonight. There comes a time in every man’s life, when he must choose between a life of shuffling off into the darkness like a good little boy or remaining and just weathering what storms may come…is she gonna slap me? scream? get some WhiteKnights to kick my ass? Oh fucking well)(smirk…stands there, holding eye contact)
    Petite6: 5………..4………………………(pause)
    Me: (leans in as if she forgot the next number, ) 3…
    Petite6 (Her serious facade crumbles, and there it is — a smile, quick…did I just pass some form of weird shit test? If so…that’d be the first one ever, I think)..2….1…..
    Me: (blink…smirk)
    Petite6: You seriously just need to leave.
    Me: (coolest thing I’ve done so far right here…I put my hands on both of her cheeks…she puts her hands over my hands……..)
    Petite6: What’s your name?
    Me: I need to leave, remember, who needs names for that.
    Petite6: (Another fleeting smile)

    And then…..some ANGRY fucking guy literally yanks her away from me. ‘Come the fuck on! we’re going, let’s get the fuck out of here, blah blah blah’
    I blink a few times, and she’s like ‘I’ll see you later’ as she’s getting dragged away. I’m not going to be a smartass to him or anything…learned my lesson the last time.

    I’m kind of left there in a daze for a moment.
    I wander over to Nightly
    Nightly: That was………………awesome. One of the coolest things I’ve seen.

    I only opened one other set after that. Two girls, 5 and a 7. It actually went pretty well, just riffing with them and stuff. Both of them were married and had babies though. Not my thing……………….yet, I guess.

    ————
    Now that I’m focusing on just saying stuff that entertains ME, I’m having a better time. Consistently have good opens with girls in the 5-7 range these days. Hotter girls…well…still difficult.

    I think this month is going to be the month where I just start saying random shit to girls during the day. My confidence is getting to that level.

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    • on March 5, 2013 at 6:20 pm YaReally

      “Personally, I’m starting to think that a lot of this boils down to frame control.”

      Yep. Both frame controlling other people (“no, this situation is normal, don’t be weird.”) and frame controlling yourself (“no, that wasn’t embarrassing, it just loosened me up so I can be more awesome”).

      You can do a LOT with frame control. Steve Jobs was said to have a “reality distortion field” where he could convince people to go along with his ideas…he just had really good frame control. I use it to turn people’s moods around, avoid fights, make girls feel comfortable with fast escalation, recover from fucking up, etc.

      “And a quick exchange the other day made me realize that this shit is mostly about hanging on to your identity. ”

      Your big problem when you started posting FRs here was that you didn’t HAVE an Identity. 🙂 Over the past couple months you’ve learned a lot more about who Scray “IS”. That’s important for a man to know. Most men don’t have a clue who they are and let society dictate that for them, and women are actively encouraged NOT to know who they are.

      “Natural: (laughs) Fucken Scray…”

      This kind of stuff is how Naturals indicate that they respect you. It might not last, it might just be for that moment, but alpha recognizes alpha. You’ll be surprised to find out down the road that a lot of Naturals actually have fairly weak frames under the surface, paper tiger style. They seem very sure of themselves, but it’s only because no one has ever confronted them or questioned them (because other people have even weaker frames). So when they run into someone who’s more sure of themselves than they are they don’t know what to do and often end up falling into that person’s frame.

      “when I first started this off, there were a few girls who were like…I don’t want to say ‘creeped’ out by me kind of hitting on them but definitely not really receptive. Now that I just do it to everyone and have light, fun interactions, those same people are like ‘well now I don’t feel special..’ or ‘wait, I thought you loved me…’ or ‘you loved me first!’”

      This is because before you were doing it to get a reaction, now you’re doing it with self-amusement. Before, your sub-communications indicated you hoped they wouldn’t be creeped out which indicates that there’s a possibility they could be creeped out, so they were creeped out. Now your sub-communications indicate that you expect them to enjoy it because it’s not even possible that they could be creeped out by it, so they enjoy it.

      This is frame control and a bunch of other concepts in action. Don’t even bother thinking about it too much lol I could break down all the little stuff going on, but the main concept to take away from it is that coming from a place of self-amusement is important and demonstrates a lot of attractive qualities about you.

      “Thus far my response is just to pretend like I don’t even remember saying it to them in the first place.”

      Yup. Frame control again. “Oh man you just spilled beer all over your shirt!” “Nah. Didn’t happen.” “What?” “Didn’t happen.” “But I saw you–” “Nah don’t worry about it. (change subject)”

      “Even the appearance of pre-selection seems to be a big switch.”

      It’s all baby steps. 🙂 Like I say, you aren’t going to go from uggos at the bar sneering at you to banging 10s in a month. But you should be able to look at your day to day life and general social life and notice a significant positive difference compared to a few months ago. Or a year ago. This progress will continue and in a few years you won’t even recognize the Scray who posted his first FR here lol

      I like your posting here because to me it helps shit on the anti-game guys. We’re watching a dude go through the process of improving his game and social life and eventually sex left live each week.

      “Of course, the best reputation would be a guy who hits on a lot of girls and has sex with a lot of girls :D”

      lol…in time. 🙂 That reputation will be great for you as a short guy, because it’ll be more intriguing/curious than the same reptuation for a tall generically good-looking guy who people would just assume that of to begin with. You’ll be the “what is it about this guy that everyone else knows that I haven’t figured out yet?” puzzle to girls which will draw them to you just on that at times.

      “and the vibe is different. Lots of hugging”

      IOI (if you mean TinyCute is hugging you, and she didn’t before).

      “TinyCute gets my attention to ask if I’ve been working out.”

      IOI.

      “and she says she can tell.”

      IOI.

      “I’m like ‘do that again.’”

      Compliance test (hoop for her to jump through) from you.

      “And then she says ‘you wish, it was the greatest ever.’”

      She tries to hold the frame with a shit-test instead of compliance to jumping through your hoop. But because of her other IOIs, this is her flirting, not being a bitch. She’s just doing the back-and-forth teasing/flirting certain personality types (like myself) love.

      “Me: ‘prove it. (smirk)’”

      Another compliance test/hoop by you. VS asking her to show you again, or agreeing with her about it being a great dance move, etc. You’re challenging her.

      “Then she leads me to the dancefloor.”

      IOI. That’s like, 3 or 4 now.

      “Sudden spike in buying temperature?”

      Yup. You’ve become intriguing/interesting to her now.

      “we get to the dancefloor and we’re close”

      IOI. There’s no logical reason she couldn’t have done the move back where you were first standing where she DID THE MOVE already lol She was hoping for a little isolation from the group to allow you to escalate (if you were some smooth-ass dancer type guy that could dance with her and escalate).

      “and she does the dance move.”

      Finally complying with the “Prove it.” hoop you set. IOI.

      “I’m just too much of a pussy to see how far I can escalate this. Mostly because our friends can see us, and a rejection here would be a massive DLV.”

      lol that’s fine. She’s social circle, you don’t have to rush escalating social circle girls. Quite frankly, I wouldn’t escalate with them in front of everyone because that can trigger their ASD (“everyone can see me being a slut!!”). I have a super short ugly scrawny little buddy who’s just really social with everyone…you would never expect him to be the type to get laid regularly, but he arranges situations where he can isolate girls from the group and then he escalates in private. Dude slays girls you would never expect him to get lol I was mind-blown when I first met him. He keeps it all discreet so the rest of the social circle never knows the chick hooked up with him.

      “‘I give it a 5-6.’ then smirk and leave her there, dancing.”

      lol I do this kind of thing too, if I get stuck on the dance floor. I don’t dance at all, so if I get dragged to the dance floor I use it as an opportunity to fuck around and do stuff like just suddenly walk away. Or turn my back to her and pretend I don’t know her. Or talk to her without dancing at all and see if I can get her to fall into my frame of not dancing and just talking in the middle of the dance floor, etc.

      Leave her stranded on a high note, like you saw someone more important. That’s better than DLV’ing yourself. You just see her later and say “Where did you go? I missed you, lover.” as if she was the one that ditched you when she knows it was the other way around lol (emotional drama/roller-coaster as she tries to compute what just happened)

      “However, we get there late…we’re talking like 1230.”

      I hate that. Especially if I’m not drinking. The party is already in full swing and a lot of chicks are too drunk to understand what I’m saying and a lot of guys have their liquid courage finally and have imaginary “dibs” on the girls, etc. etc. The earlier the better to me. I don’t even mind being one of the first 10 people in the bar…I just walk over to whoever else got there early and joke around about us being raging alcoholics to be there so early and now I have new friends for the night and anyone who arrives later has no idea I’m not BFFs with them lol

      “I swear by Odin’s beard that the real talent leaves by 11-12.”

      You’re not crazy. The hottest girls don’t stay there chugging fattening beer from 10pm – 2am and sloppily make out with guys all night until they get shoved into a cab by some shit-faced dude. They have reputations to upkeep because they know everyone is watching them because they’re so hot, and they know that working their way up the social ladder with their hotness means they’ll end up with access to social circles involving the manager of the club who will give them access to the higher-end social circles that often involve celebrities and coke (if they’re into that) and rich dudes etc.

      So they come in, strut around and dance for an hour or so, have a drink or two, and then GTFO before everyone gets drunk and sloppy and they have to put up with loser guys who were scared to approach them an hour earlier, now stumbling over to them thinking they have a shot. Also a couple hotter girls (but who weren’t the hottest around 11), will stay till the end because they get off on the validation of now being the hottest girls in the room lol

      Past midnight it’s often just the average girls and uggos left, depending on the bar/enviro/crowd. Those are the ones drinking themselves into a stupor and falling down on the dance floor flashing their crotches and slurring at 2am lol The smokin’ hot girl is having a low-key drink with the manager of another club or at a private party, or home in bed getting a good night’s sleep so she doesn’t get bags under her eyes.

      This doesn’t mean you shouldn’t still go out and practice cold approaching if it’s late. Tyler would land in a new city at 1:30am and go get 20 minutes of approaching in. It builds the habits of going out and talking to strangers, and you never know what you’ll run into.

      “He wants to get into a deep discussion about it.”

      lol most guys are actually nice/cool dudes. It’s just that a lot of guys (PUAs especially) look at them as competition/obstacles right from the start and it sets a whole antagonistic battle frame. It’s better to joke around and shoot the shit with them and make their night more fun. Guys buy me drinks/shots/etc. all the time after like 3 minutes of conversation, because I’m a fun dude and they’re thankful I came along to make their night more interesting. I’ll usually reciprocate by grabbing random chicks walking by and introducing them to the guys then walk away and hope they make it work. They usually don’t, but that little act of kindness blows their mind because they were just going to chode around being too scared to approach girls all night and I threw them into the cold end of the pool and got their night started lol so they’re my BFFs for the night there.

      If I need to make a new social circle (like I’m in a new city), I’ll shoot the shit with them a bit more and we’ll exchange contact info and now I have new buddies to go out and party with.

      “The interaction is going well. My state is pumped.”

      Good stuff, that was the point. Warm-up sets are important. Get yourself in there, build reference experiences in your brain that “okay if I talk to random strangers, I won’t get killed by another caveman, it’s fine to do this” and it’ll open up and let you hit state.

      “in the middle of it — because I didn’t come out to talk to 4’s and 5’s — I leave.”

      lol This is something guys should play with in general too. Imagine what walking away without saying a word, from a 9 while she’s in mid-sentence qualifying herself about something would do to her hamster. 🙂

      “I notice that at this time of night, all the hot girls are in mixed sets.”

      Yep. Often they don’t know the guys, but those were the guys who worked up the balls to approach and no other guy will approach a mixed set, so the girls are stuck with them and just go along for the ride because it’s better than standing around getting oogled by guys with no balls to say hello. Or the guys are managers etc. trying to move in and flash a bunch of value and the girls are just playing the social ladder game lol

      Sometimes the girls are legit into those guys, but I’m just saying in general there’s a lot of leeway in terms of how “taken” those hot girls actually are. In time you’ll learn to read the body language of whether or not girls are into guys or whether the guys are just trying to hit on them but failing and you can swoop in to rescue the girl etc.

      “I’m too much of a pussy to open those.”

      lol all good. You can do that down the road. For now you’re building the foundation of your social/flirting skills. You’ll build more layers on this later.

      “The 7.5 and the 4 both frown at me. I just smirk back. Let’s see who blinks first.”

      lol good stuff. This is called building resistance to social pressure. This is the kind of thing that builds that strength to ignore shit-tests from 9s and 10s when they try to test you by giving you a bad reaction to see how you’ll handle holding your frame or if you’ll get sucked into theirs.

      I’ve known girls who literally on purpose won’t say a word to a guy who approaches them for the first like 3 minutes…just to see what he does. They might even like the guy, they just want to know what kind of man he is…will he talk himself out of the whole interaction and eject thinking she must be rejecting him because he doesn’t deserve her? Or will he keep talking because he’s self-amusing and just assuming that she must be into him and will eventually open up? Which guy do you think she wants to date/fuck, you know?

      “Blah blah blah, my strategy here with the 4 is just to try and chat her up and bust on her friend.”

      Good, this is the optimal strategy in this situ. Work with the receptive girl, and use her to open her friend up. The longer it goes on that her group likes you and the more of them in that group that like you, the more social pressure there is on her to conform to the group and lighten up and like you. So you’re just using that social pressure tactic on her, the same move she was trying to use on you lol

      “I try this, the 4 laughs at my jokes, but the 7.5 just sits there, steadfast in her looking away resolve.”

      All good, she thinks you’ll crack. She doesn’t know you know wtf you’re doing and have the confidence to assume your frame is going to win out.

      “Me: That girl is MARRIED? HAHAHHAAHA, NO WONDER!”

      lol good. She can’t NOT respond to this. It’s offensive and she’ll shit-test you…BUT, you have her attention. 🙂 It’s tricky to turn it around but it’s possible. A lot of my game is based on turning around girls who initially hate me or are offended by me lol

      “7.5: You should just leave.”

      More shit-testing, trying to get you to fall into her frame. She legit probably doesn’t like you and isn’t interested and will keep shitting on you, but you did good to push it this far instead of giving up at the initial eye-roll.

      “Me: (to the 4) Is she always like this? (even though it’s a classic PUA line, I actually just said it because that’s how I felt lol)”

      Again this is the optimal strategy. Ignore what she said to you and instead bust on her via her friend. There’s a REASON this is a classic PUA line and Mystery uses it all the time lol

      “The 4 kind of shrugs with a bit of laughter. I don’t know what to do, so I just eject.”

      The 4’s frame is weaker than the 7.5’s…she was having fun but now that she knows the 7.5 definitely isn’t going to warm up to you, and you can’t turn it around, she has to fall into the 7.5’s frame since you’re the new guy to the group. She doesn’t necessarily WANT to, but she doesn’t have the value clout to keep interacting with you. If the 4 were like, a 9, she wouldn’t give a fuck about her sour-puss friend and would keep talking to you and the 7.5 would fall in line. Or if the 4 were like, 4 girls in her group who all loved you so she was the 1 out of 5 that was being a bitch, she’d fall in line. But the 4 knows the 7.5 runs the show.

      “Goddammit. Essentially got told to leave and left. Phuck.”

      Nah, didn’t happen. 😉 You took that way further than most guys would. Doesn’t matter if you didn’t make the shot, you played it optimally and gave it your best. You can’t control the outcome, but you can control your actions and you did good with what the universe threw at you. This is the kind of stuff you do that tells me you can get good at this stuff quickly. A LOT of guys will spend their first YEAR prematurely ejecting sets instead of sticking them out and learning to handle the social pressure and trying to turn them around. Those guys progress slow as fuck and often give up and then become whiny anti-gamers.

      In a way, a guy going into learning game with what society would label as a disadvantage (height, looks, race, lack of money, bad teeth, etc.) can often progress faster than a good-looking rich tall guy because they’ll get shit-tested a lot more…and that shit-testing, like tearing your muscles at the gym, builds your game/identity/etc., like your muscles build when they recover.

      Tyler is good at what he does because as a 5’9″ balding skinny ginger with an annoying voice he HAD to get good lol

      “I don’t really even focus on it, and instead, I start talking to their friends”

      Solid play here. Imagine how that looks to the new girls. Their friends are suddenly all over this short dude, and instead of the guy jizzing himself at the attention because he’s a desperate little loser stereotype, he’s like “ya ya, keep it in your pants ladies, who are your friends here?” like you don’t have a single fuck to give about the situation. That’s a pretty badass introduction if you can roll into some solid game from there. 🙂

      Also this is the kind of game I figure will suit you the best down the road, as a short but social guy. Where you’re using your social proof to lay new girls who are curious who you are. EVERY set opens up when you have a girl on your arm lol

      Down the road you could do stuff like stop your girls at the entrance before you walk in and have them stand on each side of you with an arm in your arm so you walk into the club looking like Heffner with a girl on each arm. Adam Lyons, who had large social circles of chicks, would do stuff like arrange theme nights where he’d have all the girls dress in, say, white dresses, and he’d be the only guy wearing a white suit and meet up before the bar, then head to the bar as a group and walk in with the girls like a boss:

      “I notice that, although I have a stack, when I’m in the presence of legitimately attractive girls, I find myself running out of shit to say.”

      lol. This is your sense of entitlement. Basically how hot can the girl be before you start stumbling for your words trying to think of stuff to say that will “get” them (VS being outcome independent) is the level of hotness you feel entitled to. As time goes on and you gain reference experience with those girls, your sense of entitlement will go up and you’ll be self-amusing with 8s the way you self-amuse with 4s, and you’ll get the exact same reactions the 4s give you (attraction, adoration, etc.).

      This is part of why I encourage you to go for the hotter girls when you see them. It’s a short-cut to building a higher sense of entitlement. A lot of guys will dick around for years with ugly/average girls and even after like 3 years of cold approaching and banging hundreds of ugly/average girls, they’ll be chickenshit and stumble around the hot girls the way you did because they didn’t approach any of them and build that reference experience based sense of entitlement with the hotter ones…so it’s like what was the point of those 3 years, ya know? I was guilty of this myself for my first few years of pickup. Now I force myself to talk to the hotter girls, even if I know I’ll probably choke and make an ass of myself lol That just gives me another reference experience that it won’t kill me to embarrass myself in front of an 8+, which helps with the next girl I approach.

      “I kinda was just like ‘hey who are you, I know you know them, but they’re being rude and won’t introduce us.’”

      This is solid. I use this myself, especially when my wing and a chick in a 2-set hit it off instantly and the other girl is awkwardly standing there and neither of us have been introduced. I’ll just force the introduction and build an “us VS them” frame of our friends are rude as fuck and we’re going to have to watch them make out all night lol

      On a more subtle note, this is sub-communicating that you take charge and don’t wait around for other people to make shit happen for you. You want to know who these girls are, so you force it to happen, that’s a man who takes control of the world around him. DHV shit right there, especially when you have the social proof of girls hanging off you already.

      See how a lot of PUA is about stacking the deck in your favor? You’re not growing 6-pack abs or another foot of height, you’re just learning how to line up a lot of little high-value things to create situations with new girls where you come off as extremely high value right from the start which is just maximizing how you display your value, VS minimizing it which is what most shy guys do (they can be AMAZING dudes, but they don’t know how to display that so the girls don’t KNOW they’re amazing).

      “Keep in mind, that at odd intervals Friendly4 and HBLovely6 are touching me and talking about how much they love me or whatever.”

      Solid. I would almost NOT bang these two and stick to just flirting and use them as social proof whenever you run into them, to get other girls. Some girls will like you but not be touching you or raving about you, and those are no good for social proof. But girls who are all up in your grill in public like that in front of other girls are awesome for social proofing you with the rest of the girls in the room or your social circle, which leads to hotter girls.

      Doesn’t even matter that they’re not 8+ girls, social proof even from a 4 helps make a 9 wonder why you’re being awesome to the 4 instead of her.

      “the entire vibe I got from them as I was talking was…’who is this strange person?’”

      lol you aren’t fitting into their default categorization of what a short dude is supposed to be like (lame and shy and not attractive to girls and having a chip on his shoulder about his height etc.) so it’s frying their circuits because now they have to put a new label on you and don’t know what label you fit in yet because they haven’t seen this before.

      If you just stick through it and hold your frame long enough (90/10 rule, they’re too busy analyzing you to go 50/50 so you fill in the conversation until they click into play), eventually their brains will catch up and they’ll just fall into line with your frame of “this is totally normal and you shouldn’t be weirded out by what’s going on”.

      You don’t necessarily have legit ATTRACTION yet, but you have the building blocks OF it…ie – if you stick it out long enough and run some solid game, those girls will often 180 into massive buying temperature spikes of attraction in a really short window of time.

      Imagine, at this point, you said “Hey, I need a drink, come with me.” and held out your hand to one of these new girls who’s seen you with her friends all up on you. Then she stares at you like “uhhh…” and you just hold your frame (who’s gonna’ blink first?) and hold your hand out and go “Shh. Don’t be weird. Come.” and twiddle your fingers.

      It’s EXTREMELY likely in that situation that she’s going to go “well, my friends love him, and I’m curious about who the fuck he is, and he just wants to go over to the bar and get a drink it’s not like he’s inviting me into his bedroom so ummm I guess I’ll go on this adventure and see what happens…?” and take your hand and as you drag her away she’ll girl-code her friends like “wtf am I doing?? what’s going on??” lol

      Then you have isolation with a girl who has seen you do a bunch of high-value shit. You can bust on her for looking like a deer in the headlights and get her laughing, and then just switch gears into qualifying her and building comfort/rapport etc. and work from there.

      “I’m pretty sure that she was jealous I was talking to her friends, rather than her.”

      Yup. But that’s fine. 🙂 And you can bust her on it in front of them for much amusement lol

      “it’s not like I’m not going to never see these people again. Just bounce on a high note.”

      Yup. No rush with social circle. And like I say, I wouldn’t even bang these two. Ideally down the road their friends will be with them again and you’ll end up in or be able to construct a logistical scenario where you all end up at an “afterparty” together where you can isolate and escalate on one of her hot friends. 🙂

      “It was supplicating. I could feel it.”

      A big difference between AFCs and PUAs is that the AFC can’t tell he’s fucking up, or he can tell that “SOMETHING” is off, like in the pit of his stomache, but he doesn’t really know what, he just knows he felt “bad” about the situation (you had a lot of this in your early FRs where you thought people were fucking with you or the vibe people had toward you was “weird” etc.).

      Like now, I know EXACTLY what’s happening in an interaction. It’s like there’s a videogame meter above the girl’s head and I can see it going up and down depending on what I do. So I can predict a lot of flakes because I know “logically I fucked up a bunch on that, she SHOULD flake on me” or I can tell when I’m just slaying it etc. and set should be an easy open for me, because I’ve spent so much time in-field.

      That’s also why I can break down your interactions, just through text descriptions and quotes, with pretty reasonable accuracy. I just really understand the dynamics from experience. Your FRs have a solid level of description/detail to diagnose your interactions. Some guys just post little snippets of text, or some guys post 50 pages of unnecessary backstory etc., but you have a good balance of what’s important and what’s fluff.

      These things still take me forever to write which is why I haven’t gotten on the last couple weeks of FRs from ya (busy with work and pussy lol) but you give me good material to break down when I DO get to them. 🙂

      “The other one starts to give her answer, but — and maybe this was a premature ejectuation — I just turn like I got distracted by something and buzz off.”

      lol sometimes this isn’t a bad plan. It’s funny because you can open a girl TERRIBLY and completely fuck it up…but then find her and re-open her an hour later when you’re in a better state and more on your game, as if that initial interaction never happened or as if it went awesome before, and she’ll be receptive to you.

      You CAN blow yourself out hardcore so she won’t ever open up again, but often premature ejectulation means you can probably re-open later because it’s your own brain telling you “Abort abort!!” VS her saying “fuck off!!”

      Don’t stress it or beat yourself up about it though. At least you approached to begin with!

      “And then HBLovely6 is like ‘ya that threesome isn’t happening now.’”

      1) She’s thinking about sex with you. They both are. IOIs lol

      2) You probably COULD have a 3-some with them. Usually girls that crack jokes about that kind of thing are actually curious/interested in it.

      “Me: Ya, now it’s a twosome (smirk)”

      If I wanted to escalate and bang her, I’d’ve said something like “Probably for the better, I’m more of a one on one kind of guy. I don’t think I could keep up with BOTH of you…I don’t know what 4s like in bed but I can tell you’re fucking wild. 😉 You’d have me handcuffed to your bed before I knew what happened.” etc. and grab her by the waist if she plays along like “omg maybe I WOULD 😉 lolololz”.

      “Lol, what’s funny is that I know 100% that I can bang Lovely, and I find myself growing less interested.”

      lol ya, you’re wired to be a Thrill of the Hunt guy like me. Once I “figure a girl out”, I start losing interest. For a girl to keep me interested in her, she has to be unpredictable and exciting and keep me on my toes. I can get laid pretty much any night I’m out by some 4 or 5 uggo, but it’s easy and I care more about the hunt of trying to land a hotter girl who’s a challenge, so I pass those easy uggos up all the time.

      On the flip side I have a Natural player buddy who’s a Pleasure of Sex guy and just wants a steady stream of new pussy 24/7, so he’ll bang those easy uggo lays if a hotter girl seems like she’ll be more work.

      …or he’ll grab a # from the hotter one and then take home an uggo and bang the hotter girl later in the week, the fucker lol

      “And I know that if I don’t act on all of this touching and shit soon, it’ll all be for naught.”

      The windows of opportunity DO close. It’s a tricky balance because essentially you keep shooting her down, which is rejection to a girl, and hurts her ego, and she’ll have to get mad at you for that at some point.

      What I like to do in these situations is disqualify myself. So when I’m joking about our loving eachother and breaking up etc. (like that same fun light-hearted vibe, not a serious discussion) I’d drop in “But alas, we can never be together…a wise man once told me don’t poop where you eat. I could never date a girl I’m friends with, everyone would have to watch us making out all the time and getting it on on that pool table over there, it would destroy the group! But know that my heart is always yours…unless, you know, you get fat. ;)”

      Basically just fucking around and disqualifying yourself instead of disqualifying HER…that way she can’t get mad or take it personal, it’s not HER you’re rejecting, you’re just following your rules. I knew an asian guy who would keep white chicks in his group flirting with him by telling them he could never be with a white chick because they’re too crazy and he needs a nice quiet asian girl etc…but he’d keep flirting with them and they’d keep flirting back because they’re still attracted, it’s just that now he’s less attainable…but at the same time they don’t feel rejected because he’s not leading them on and then rejecting them personally, he’s rejecting an entire group of people at once for a silly reason.

      “For now, I just follow my rule of ‘if you don’t know how to escalate, take it further, be cooler…leave…be scarce.’ So I do just that.”

      Keep to that rule. 🙂 Give her the gift of missing you.

      “I actually hear HBLovely6 say ‘oh Scray is just too cool for us, other bitches to bang…he was laughing and talking with some other girls downstairs.’”

      lol One of the funny moments you’ll run into is the first time you bang a chick you landed with super solid game and high value and she REFUSES to believe that you’ve only slept with a couple girls in your life. I literally had girls get ANGRY at me because they convinced themselves I was fucking with them and lying about having only been with 3 girls at age 24…it was just their perception that because I seemed so high-value to them, obviously I must get a ton of girls. It’s really surreal lol

      Another way you can build your rep with guys and perception is to collect chicks’ phone numbers in front of them. To normal guys who watch a Ryan Gosling movie, getting a # means the hero and the girl will hook up and have sex…so to normal guys, a guy who gets a bunch of #s is a pimp who must be getting laid like crazy. They don’t comprehend what flaking is or how flash-game to get a # isn’t solid game etc. All they know is “Scray gets #s from so many chicks wow, what a pimp.”

      “I’m really digging her look and her vibe.”

      solid. This is what you’re in the game for. 🙂 Having some competance when you run into a girl like this that flips all your switches.

      “Nosering8.5 has a shocked reaction to my opener, and I soften it up by saying I’m fucking with her.”

      I have to do this a lot because I open offensively lol This is a situation where you can drop a “Statement of Empathy” which is where you pace her reality (“I know, that was rude hey? lol you look terrified, I’m sorry, I just like to fuck with people.”) and lead it to where you want (“On the plus side, you’re cute when you look like you think I’m an asshole. 😉 Are you a hairdresser? (insert routine)”)

      “(HERPITY DERPITY HERPY DERP DERP)”

      lol. Awesome. Well, at least you didn’t die. 🙂

      SOMETIMES you can turn these nose-dives around with a cute sincerity of “I’m sorry, I’m just saying stupid shit now. You’re just the hottest chick I’ve seen tonight and my brain stops working when we make eye-contact lol” and try to slide into something. If it’s congruent, sometimes it’ll make them go “awwe” and give you a chance, depending on her personality type.

      It’s a hail-mary pass though basically lol and a lot of girls will take it as a “well he’s not confident enough for me then”, but I mean, you aren’t sticking your dick in her anyway, so fuck it.

      Remember before when I talked about re-opening? If you saw this girl again next week, you could re-approach her with better game and act as if that interaction never happened. And if she remembers you just act as if you guys had a normal cool interaction that went well and brush it off and keep going and hold your frame…and you might be able to turn it around. Girls live in the moment, so if in the moment you’re giving her good emotions, that’s what she feels about you.

      “Nightly: I LIKE YOUR NOSE RING….AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.”

      ahhh what are friends for if not kicking you when you’re down, hey? lol

      Whole bunch of wicked awesome shit coming up here, love it:

      “STOP ASKING THAT QUESTION, IT’S A FUCKED UP QUESTION!”

      lol one risk with your opener is that if the chick has had a friend recently die, it can trigger some pretty hostile shit. That isn’t necessarily what’s happening here, but it’s something that you could run into at some point. If you do run into that (you’ll know when it happens, she’ll bitch you out HARD and tell you about her friend dying), pull back entirely and be like “oh wow, hey I’m sorry, I was just fucking around, I didn’t mean to trigger shitty memories for you, that was entirely my bad…I just say stupid shit like that and you’re right I shouldn’t be saying it to random people when I don’t know their history. I’m sorry about your friend, forget about my stupid shit k?” and if you can calm her down with that kind of stuff you can transition into a “Let’s start over, this time without me being an asshole okay? My name is Scray (hold out your hand for a hand-shake)”.

      This chick was just fucking with you though lol

      “Me: WHO ARE YOU, THE FUCKED UP POLICE? QUIT STALKING ME!”

      Beautiful. It doesn’t even need to make sense, what you’re doing is setting her up for an emotional rollercoaster which girls love. Often, the hotter they are the more they love it (thus Strippers and their love of drama/abuse).

      “Me: (the 4.5 is being fat talkin about how fucked up I am, blah blah blah…I focus on the other one) So who are you?”

      Good frame control here, not giving a fuck what the 4.5 is yapping about.

      “Me: SILENCE, I’m not going to be a party to your mental trickery.”

      lol as insane/assholish/illogical as you sound here, ignoring the words that are being said, what’s happening here? You are the center of the storm and causing them to react to you. This is you dominating the interaction and forcing them to be playing catch-up to you. VS “I like your nosering…??”

      “Petite6: Hey, look…..just don’t be fucked up.”

      IOI. She’s verrry subtly indicating that she wants you to NOT fuck the interaction with everyone up here, which is because she verrry secretly is curious about you and wants you to be around long enough for her to find out what your deal is.

      Sometimes a girl will tell you how to seduce her or what her logistical problem is that she needs you to solve. So you’ll get something like “I have to tell my friends I’m leaving, I can’t just leave!!” and you go “Nah, it’s fine.” and keep heading toward the door with her. If she goes with you, cool, but if she stresses “No I can’t I HAVE to tell them first…” you go “Okay, let’s go find them.” and you go do that. Like sometimes it’s not a shit-test, it’s her saying “I have this problem I need you to solve so we can be together”. Spotting this just comes with calibration.

      “Me: I don’t take orders from fun nazis.”

      So much lol at this. Again, notice that you’re holding your frame here. She’s trying to get you to comply and jump through a hoop and you’re just steamrolling all over her and her group’s frame with yours.

      Something you can do around the point where they’re “OMG”‘ing is to actually switch gears and drop into lower-key comfort/rapport/qualifying game. They’re reacting to you, so they’ll follow your frame and if your frame is now “it’s totally normal for us to now have a civil conversation about who they are” then that’s what they’ll be doing.

      “Petite6: (Turns to her friend) …copyingmesomuchohmygod!”

      IOI. She’s playing along with your game instead of just walking away. If you were a smelly homeless man would she have tried to trip you up and be playing your game with you like that? No, she’d just go “fuck off” and walk away. She’s in your frame here, because she’s reacting to your game.

      “Me: (pause, smirk) You look real stupid right now.”

      lol great. Cutting your own game off and then teasing her for reacting to your game. Solid stuff and again leading the interaction and forcing her to react to you.

      “Petite6: Don’t be so childish”

      Her shit-testing, hoop compliance testing, etc.

      “Me: MAKE ME”

      You amplifying her complaint (agree & amplify in action).

      “Petite6(turns away to laugh)”

      IOI. She’s attracted and from this point on anything she says, any shit she gives you, is her secretly flirting and testing to see if you’re congruent so she can fuck you.

      “4.5: Yeah this city is REALLY SHADY…JUST SAYING”

      Trying to mother hen, and also a little jealous that she’s not getting attention, and annoyed that somehow despite how illogical it is that her friend should be into you, she can tell she is. Girls can spot when their friends buying temperature spikes, that’s WHY they have a mother hen in the group and drag eachother to the bathroom to cool down and get their bitch-shields back up, etc. They can tell their friend is spiking and will lose control so they try to fuck it up.

      “Me: I’m a motherfucking umbrella.”

      This is you running agree & amplify again. Much better than defending yourself and qualifying yourself or backing down etc. You’re demonstrating yet again how unshakeable your frame is and how confident you are.

      “Petite6: You’re kind of shady.”

      IOI. If you were a stinky homeless man would she jump back into the conversation once she finally escaped it? Nope. And here she’s shit-testing you again because she knows 1) that you’ll pass it since you literally JUST passed this exact same shit-test, except you did it to her friend and not her so she wants in on some of that action, and 2) that her friend will keep ragging on you until she DOES fuck it up so she’s actually trying to buy you some more time…like walking you away from the dragon’s chomping mouth for a minute so it can cool down.

      “but it’s because she doesn’t know how to react to me…ah finally, this reaction.”

      Not the DDB look it doesn’t sound like, but she’s 100% in your frame at this point. Whoever’s reacting to the other person more is lower-value so to her at this point you have really high-value.

      “Let me guess, you guys are from the burbs and can’t handle yourselves on the street?”

      Solid, taking on the cockblock. This is that switching gears into comfort/rapport/qualifying stuff. It’s less hostile an energy level.

      “4.5: This place doesn’t have suburbs.”

      Still trying to fuck you up. You could have said “You have blonde hair.” and even if she had blonde hair she’d say “No I don’t.” just to try to fuck you up.

      “Me: WHAT THE FUCK? HAHAHA RIDICULOUS”

      lol Much better than getting into a logical debate about the amount of suburbs in the area which is what she wants you to do so you can be reacting to her. Instead, once again, you refuse to fall into her frames.

      “I actually start to walk away, right then and there.”

      lol a take-away/back-turn, even though you actually MEANT it. 🙂

      “They call me back”

      IOI.

      “we’re girls who can yell, blah blah blah. I walk back and point at Petite6”

      Ignoring their bullshit and instead of reacting to it, cutting them off and plowing through with your own frame/reality. This is all super alpha shit and all congruent to what you’ve demonstrated to them from the very start, that you have a strong frame and don’t react to others…even if you didn’t realize at the time you were doing it, this is really solid shit and it’s why you’re getting IOIs from Petite6.

      “Me: You know what you are? You’re a nonsense person. That’s the WORST kind of person. (smirk)”

      Love it. Cold-read (doesn’t even need to make sense). Again, you’re causing her to react to you. VS “ummm I like your nosering…??” lol

      “Petite6(looks deathly serious all of sudden, gets in my face, arms folded) Okay, you need to walk the fuck away. Just walk the fuck away, seriously.”

      Flirting shit-test.

      “Me: (oh shit, have I misread the vibe)”

      The way to tell whether you’ve misread or not is to look at the history…she’s given you like 5 really subtle little IOIs at this point, so if you’ve been paying attention to those, then when she does this shit-test you can instantly know to ignore it because logic dictates that she’s attracted so this is just her flirting…whereas if she did this when she had given you NO IOIs, it would mean she actually wants you to walk away.

      Basically it’s like you caught a glimpse of her cards in poker and she’s trying to bluff a hand but you know she has nothing so you don’t take her seriously…whereas if you hadn’t seen the cards or if you had seen them and knew she HAD the hand, you’d fold.

      “Petite6(Gets closer, looks pretty fucking pissed) Yeah. Step off little guy.”

      Flirting shit-test again. She’s probably done this to guys before and had them cower and run away (and then been disappointed that they were pussies lol). At this point the sexual tension on her end is actually through the roof lol

      “There comes a time in every man’s life, when he must choose between a life of shuffling off into the darkness like a good little boy or remaining and just weathering what storms may come”

      lol you are Braveheart! And it’s true. Look how this one pans out…like, look at the reference experience you got from this even if you didn’t bang her. How much is THAT reference experience worth, that sometimes even a super hardcore shit-test like this can ACTUALLY be flirting? And how much will this reference experience help you in the future with other girls? Like shit, you can’t even put a price on that experience you just gained by sticking it through.

      “Petite6: 5………..4………………………(pause)”

      IOI. The pause is the IOI here. Because she doesn’t actually WANT to get to 1 and have you leave.

      “Me: (leans in as if she forgot the next number, ) 3…”

      ooooo I got a boner from that one lol. This is flawless shit right here, you’re taking her frame and tooling her with it, and not backing down, etc. etc. etc. Just a shit-ton of alpha here, PLUS the leaning in which ups the sexual tension (remember that Gambler/Richard LaRuina video on sexual tension from stepping in closer while she talks?).

      “Petite6 (Her serious facade crumbles, and there it is — a smile, quick…did I just pass some form of weird shit test? If so…that’d be the first one ever, I think)..2….1…..”

      Congratulations, you just passed a shit-test that like 99% of guys would crumble to. And not only did you pass it, you fucked it in the face and made it your bitch.

      “Me: (blink…smirk)”

      Sexual tension all over the place. This is the point where, to her, the rest of the world has faded into darkness and it’s just the two of you on a stage with everything dark around you and just a spotlight on the two of you.

      “Petite6: You seriously just need to leave.”

      I would bet that the way she said this even SOUNDED full of shit, like a really gay “I totally don’t even mean this, I don’t even know what I’m saying right now” doggy dinner-bowl thing. Like in those 1950s movies where the girl puts up a fight and finally gives up to the guy she’s attracted to and is just kind of muttering as he moves in for a kiss.

      “Me: (coolest thing I’ve done so far right here…I put my hands on both of her cheeks…she puts her hands over my hands……..)”

      Sooooooo good. lol Just completely boss shit right here. And her putting her hands on yours is a massive IOI. She will be thinking about you when she’s getting off that night lol

      Also, you can makeout with her here. The rest of her group will shit a brick over it, but you can do it and she would love it lol

      “Petite6: What’s your name?”

      Epic IOI. Like, massively attracted here. Through the roof. You blew through everything she could throw at you like a fucking champ and she knows it…so now she’s in love.

      “Me: I need to leave, remember, who needs names for that.”

      lol awesome. Not conducive to getting the lay, but the logistics are so fucked in this situ that you probably couldn’t get the lay away (even if you tried to grab a # for later, her friends would cockblock before you got your phone to the Contacts screen), so making a badass moment like this is all good. If you ever see this chick again she will jizz herself and make sure that you know she’s there and that she wants you to re-open and bang her (after she roleplays back into this “you’re creepy and should go away” frame again to make sure you’re still fun and remember her lol).

      “Petite6: (Another fleeting smile)”

      Of course. 🙂 You just gave her a moment that she’ll be thinking about for years. 5 min of alpha and all that.

      “And then…..some ANGRY fucking guy literally yanks her away from me. ‘Come the fuck on! we’re going, let’s get the fuck out of here, blah blah blah’”

      lol orbiter WK with a crush, or a friend of her boyfriend or some shit. Who knows, who cares, you had your fun and got a badass story and reference experience out of that. This is the same guy who got sneered at by a 6 on a dance floor a few months ago and shuffled off with his tail between his legs. 🙂 Proud of your progress, dude!

      “and she’s like ‘I’ll see you later’ as she’s getting dragged away.”

      lol I’ve had girls shout their phone number as their friends drag them away as soon as they see me pull out my phone etc. This chick looooved you.

      “I’m not going to be a smartass to him or anything…learned my lesson the last time.”

      lol you wouldn’t have been able to turn those logistics around anyway so this was a good call. What’s she going to do, ninja-flip out of his hands AND ditch all the cockblocks in her group to go fuck you that night? Nahhh…end on a high note. Like I say, if you see her again (likely at that same bar on that same night of the week since people tend to be creatures of habit, tho don’t bank on it cause for all you know she only goes out once a year etc.), it’s on like donkey kong…BUT you’ll have to start over a bit and work your way up through some mild flirting shit-tests again, you generally don’t get to just resume where you left off.

      “I’m kind of left there in a daze for a moment.”

      Love those moments. 🙂 Welcome to Game.

      “Nightly: That was………………awesome. One of the coolest things I’ve seen.”

      lol and it’s awesome that you had a witness to it all. You must’ve been strutting like a peacock after that whole thing went down lol

      “It actually went pretty well, just riffing with them and stuff.”

      lol I find after I have a really amazing set I’m just kind of in the afterglow/high of the interaction and my next sets will just be pretty chill and lazy on my part because I’m still like “ahhh man that was awesome…this is cool too, but it’s not as awesome as THAT shit was…” with a dopey grin on my face.

      “Both of them were married and had babies though. Not my thing……………….yet, I guess.”

      It’s getting harder to find hot chicks who DON’T have kids these days. 😦 Way to go, Feminism.

      “Consistently have good opens with girls in the 5-7 range these days. Hotter girls…well…still difficult.”

      It’ll come in time. Keep forcing yourself to go hurr durr about girls’ noserings. 😉 Imagine if you handled that nosering chick the way you handled this last chick.

      “I think this month is going to be the month where I just start saying random shit to girls during the day. My confidence is getting to that level.”

      lol do it. You never know what’ll pan out. If they respond and you notice some IOIs, run with it. I used to do a lot of day-game and go for insta-dates and stuff…I mostly stick to night game now because I’m in work mode all day, but ya, if you pass by some chicks, throw something out there. Make an observation about something around you and build that skill of being able to make up situational openers, practice transitioning into your hairdresser thing or new routines, look for IOIs, etc. etc. Play with it and have fun. The world is your lab to do social experiments in. 🙂

      Good stuff dude, keep it up! Hope some of this helps and props for that awesome last interaction lol

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    • on March 5, 2013 at 6:22 pm YaReally

      left a breakdown but it’s in moderation, check in a day or whatever!

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      • on March 6, 2013 at 3:54 am Scray

        ‘These things still take me forever to write which is why I haven’t gotten on the last couple weeks of FRs from ya (busy with work and pussy lol) but you give me good material to break down when I DO get to them.’

        I’m really thankful whenever you do write one. I always try to apply whatever you say the next week. They’re really helpful. Like, this Matrix scene is how I feel when reading them (you’d be Morpheus, obv)

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  7. on March 3, 2013 at 2:20 pm gunslingergregi

    american chick
    so what u think when u got a woman who sucks ur toes shaves u dresses u makes u snap ur fingers when u want a cigg i would of wiped his ass if he told me 2 an he wanted 2 push 2 c what would happen????????? should of just kept on with how things were not try new shit ive even picked up hookers 4 him 2 get a blow job while he ate me out an he wanna say i dont love him
    especially when im here the next day fucking an suckin him an he hasnt even washed his shit how fucked up is that ( thats the type of shit that make a bitch wanna go out an really fuck some1 else but havent an dont wanna) after i devoted myself 2 this man and i still fucking am thats what i get GUESS I SHOULDNT OF PORED MY HEART OUT 2 HIM AM LET HIM GET ME IN HIS CLUTCHES AN OF DONE EVERYTHING HE SAID!!!! should of made him bow down 2 me i look good enough 2 get a man 2 do what ever i want but realy loved this one an wanted 2 make him happy i start 2 cry even thinking bout this shit i gave him everything did everything 2 try and make him happy ive shaved him dressed him washed him droped my pants when he said 2 even ass sex and i’ve done that 4 NO ONE EVER””””””

    i remember back when talking bout what my wife did for me how people would say yea but she is subservient and shit american chicks would never do that he he he
    yea it was a blast

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  8. on March 3, 2013 at 2:23 pm JV

    I fail to see the purpose of a white man acquiring a ‘foreign’ asian wife. The only reason to ever get married is to have children. What other possible reason/excuse is there to spend one’s life chained to an aging woman?

    And there is no point in having children if they will just be ugly halfbreeds that won’t even look like you.

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    • on March 3, 2013 at 2:55 pm gunslingergregi

      the kids are usually good looking from asian woman white man matches and intelligent
      but yea and probably better chance of actually raising your kids cause look at even guys with massive sums of money and losing there kids in divorce in us fuck that noise
      the laws in the us are just all fucked up and makes the woman capable of fucking you up on a whim

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      • on March 3, 2013 at 2:58 pm JV

        Why even have kids if they look like soulless black-eyed aliens? Why have kids if they don’t even look like you? When I see these half-breed kids with their ‘parents,’ the ‘father’ doesn’t even look like he’s part of the family. He looks like a goofy third wheel tag-a-long.

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      • on March 3, 2013 at 3:00 pm gunslingergregi

        i don’t know out of all the chicks i was with my asian wife was the only one i wanted to have kids with and raise em

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      • on March 3, 2013 at 3:02 pm gunslingergregi

        even the first wife who was white i didn’t want to have kids with

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      • on March 3, 2013 at 3:04 pm JV

        I recall reading in a previous comment of yours that your sexual relationships have been with prostitutes and drug addicts.

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      • on March 3, 2013 at 3:04 pm gunslingergregi

        even my buddy who never had kids at 43 years old and just fucked chicks in us settled down and had kids with a asian chick
        maybe they do have souls huh?

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      • on March 3, 2013 at 3:07 pm gunslingergregi

        don’t forget strippers and regular chicks just i didn’t find any regular chicks i liked enough to fall in love allthough they usually want to get married and have my baby

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      • on March 3, 2013 at 3:18 pm gunslingergregi

        basically i got oneitis for an adict in states i fell in love with her i can admit it and got her off the shit but it didn’t work out
        but yea back in the day it was all regular chicks i’ve lived a lot of facets of life

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      • on March 3, 2013 at 3:56 pm TLM

        I know a white herb whose married to a Korean “American”. His wife tells us how a couple of times people in public have run up to her after they spot her husband taking them to the bathroom. They think white herb dad, who looks nothing like his half bred asian kids, is trying to abduct them.

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      • on March 3, 2013 at 11:55 pm laf

        You’re so right TLM, much better to have kids with a dumb ugly white chick, who will make sure you never see your kids except twice a month, and you have absolutely no say on how they are raised, and you remain broke for the rest of your life for the priviledge.

        If you have white kids, and you have absolutely NO AFFECT on their life because you are absent (sorry 4 days a month don’t count chump), you’re a MUCH bigger chump than the dude with the half breed kids who gets to hang out with them every day.

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      • on March 5, 2013 at 4:52 pm Glengarry

        Now he never has to take the kids to the bathroom again.

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      • on March 3, 2013 at 6:01 pm gaoxiaen

        The first four words were enough.

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      • on March 3, 2013 at 8:40 pm tang3zang

        “Soulless black-eyed aliens” are going to be the future of the human race, JV.

        The rest of you non-Asians are going to mix into one incoherent blob, operating your lives on feelings, ‘moral concerns’ and your most immediate urges. While East Asians will remain objective, nationalistic, greedy and goal-oriented. We will be the racial upper caste on Earth.

        But in the spirit of spiting liberal scum all over the world, I will say something for your white majority. Stick to your own, breed with your own. Less half-breeds for all of us.

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      • on March 5, 2013 at 12:01 am thwack

        “While East Asians will remain objective, nationalistic, greedy and goal-oriented. We will be the racial upper caste on Earth.”
        ————————————————————

        white sock puppet alert!

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      • on March 5, 2013 at 5:15 pm Anonymous

        Asia is on the rise and America is on the way out. Asians don’t let a whole bunch of nigs from Somalia settle in what their equivalent of Minnesota would be. Asians don’t have white guilt. You’re fucked. Admit it. Maybe spend more time looking for a white woman who will actually have your kids and settle down with you than race trolling, and you might have a white family to come home to.

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    • on March 3, 2013 at 4:10 pm feministx

      Yeah, kids who are half black or half asian will look black and asian to most people.

      At least you have a 50-50 chance of kids that look like you when it’s white and Indian. Like this chick is half Indian- http://cache2.artprintimages.com/LRG/10/1061/8JML000Z.jpg

      Hard to tell that she’s not all white.

      Today my boyfriend told me he was foolish for marrying white women (twice). He said he should have married someone foreign or first generation to begin with. I found this comment odd because I am like the least traditional least domestic Indian girl possible. Apparently I am still more comforting than white American women.

      He’s Sicilian and pretty dark for a white guy. I think our kids would look like his.

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      • on March 4, 2013 at 5:46 pm What

        for the love of all that is holy dont have kids. they will come out looking like your picture mister potato head

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      • on March 4, 2013 at 7:20 pm Heydrich

        Sicilians aren’t really white.

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      • on March 5, 2013 at 12:05 am thwack

        Everybody is white when they shoot you in the head (point blank)

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    • on March 3, 2013 at 6:48 pm thwack

      And there is no point in having children if they will just be ugly halfbreeds that won’t even look like you.
      —————————————————

      But think of the racism you could practice? You could feel “extra white!”

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      • on March 4, 2013 at 10:34 pm Col Nicholson

        Or, perhaps, a whiter shade of pale.

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    • on March 3, 2013 at 6:54 pm thwack

      JV
      I fail to see the purpose of a white man acquiring a ‘foreign’ asian wife.
      —————————————————————
      Because they can’t marry a young boy? (yet)

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      • on March 3, 2013 at 8:05 pm santa666

        Nailed it.

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      • on March 3, 2013 at 8:39 pm gunslingergregi

        he brought up the young boy he must want to
        sick bastard

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      • on March 4, 2013 at 6:45 pm Uncle Elmer

        There is hope for you guys. Same-sex fiance visas are the next big gay civil rights issue. Prepare yourselves for a massive influx of Thai Lady Boys and English Bull Dykes, the next big immigrant wave to lap upon our shores.

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      • on March 3, 2013 at 11:36 pm PetiteOlive

        lol

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    • on March 3, 2013 at 8:48 pm Anonymous

      Because unlike American women, they are actually thin? Did I win?

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      • on March 3, 2013 at 10:02 pm thwack

        why cant you get a thin white woman?

        Cant you catch what you hunt?

        (((shakin my head)))

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      • on March 3, 2013 at 11:58 pm laf

        Thin white woman=you are divorced chump who sees your kids 4 days a month.
        Thin asian woman=half breeds you actually get to raise and see every day.

        Please Thwack tell us about your well adjusted white babies you raise that you get to see after work everyday.

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      • on March 4, 2013 at 12:15 am gunslingergregi

        sad truth unless your hard as fuck but who really wants to be that hard all the time

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      • on March 4, 2013 at 8:47 am thwack

        Please Thwack tell us about your well adjusted white babies you raise that you get to see after work everyday.
        ———————————————————–
        er, ah… actually, Im O for three on making white babies; all I get are these soulless black-eyed aliens? I guess Im just too strong and too black. Blacker than my grave and nothing can save me

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      • on March 4, 2013 at 6:20 pm lulz

        When you start posting stories about your lovely well adjusted white babies which don’t exist yet, let me know.

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      • on March 4, 2013 at 2:11 pm JV

        Imagine if I had to come home everyday and see the evidence of my genes being overwritten. Sounds like a nightmare.

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      • on March 4, 2013 at 2:18 pm dan

        Dude go audit an intro to genetics course for a few weeks when they focus on heritablity. You’ll then be able to draw a punnet square and tell us why this post of yours was so stupid

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      • on March 4, 2013 at 4:56 pm Anonymous

        Yeah, no kidding Dan. I guess Punnet Squares with 4 cells are too much to keep track of. Not to mention the term “Eurasian” exists, uranus.

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      • on March 4, 2013 at 6:18 pm lulz

        “genes being overwritten.”

        And this person claims to have a high inheritable White IQ available for your gene tree. Riiiiiiiiiiight.

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      • on March 4, 2013 at 6:19 am C

        white women age poorly. i you want to keep her around for raising your kids, white is a bad choice.

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      • on March 4, 2013 at 8:36 am Nicole

        According to my experiments, this is not true. European women will age just fine, even in a very hot climate, if they take care of themselves properly.

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      • on March 4, 2013 at 8:55 am thwack

        Nicole, of all people, you know that ain’t true, are you fucking a white person?

        Stacy Dash is 50 friggin years old and still smokin hot.

        “you can have any color you like as long as its black” — Henry Ford

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      • on March 4, 2013 at 8:58 am C

        they still age much worse than asian, middle eastern and black women who take care of themselves. white skin is thin, especially white womens skin. with a white couple in their thirties the woman often looks ten years older than the man.

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      • on March 4, 2013 at 10:29 am JV

        Every woman ages poorly but you can’t even have white kids without a white woman. There is no point in reproducing if the offspring don’t even have any of your traits. And there is no reason to get married if you won’t be reproducing.

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      • on March 4, 2013 at 10:34 am JV

        All women age poorly. At least old white women can look like sweet little grannies baking cookies for their grandkids. Old chinese women look like the guy from tales from the cryptkeeper.


        If I was chained to that I would kill myself.

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      • on March 4, 2013 at 12:16 pm C

        white women age the worst. i’d rather not have kids, than be in a relationship with a white woman over 35. wrinkles is an instant boner killer for me.

        but it’s irrelevant for a man with the right mindset anyway. marriage in this day and age is for chumps, as is most women over 30.

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      • on March 4, 2013 at 2:18 pm JV

        Epicanthic folds, colourless eyes, and brown labia are instant boner killers. Blonde pubic hair and petal pink nipples mark the creme de la creme of womanhood. The value of a woman is 99% physical. White men who breed with asian women are losers who know they aren’t worthy of passing on their genetic legacy so they purposefully destroy it. Doormats incapable of keeping their own women under control, they import the foreign product of a different breed of man that didn’t fuck up.

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      • on March 4, 2013 at 2:27 pm JV

        Marriage is for chumps, sure, if you enter a monogamous marriage. There isn’t any reason why you can’t marry (or cohabit with) one woman for childbearing and have discrete affairs with younger sweeties on the side when your wife becomes distastefully aged. A woman’s value is 99% physical and her personality is heavily malleable. I would advise to choose a woman based solely on looks. The personality of a hot babe can be sweetened by treating her badly (but occasionally showing your tender lovingness), fucking her hard, convincing her to quit her job to stay home (not difficult), and moving somewhere else (to cut off her social ties and thereby lessen negative influences from her friends). My desire for children who look like me was stronger than my unwillingness to learn the subtle arts of taming the pussy.

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      • on March 4, 2013 at 3:50 pm gunslingergregi

        being a white man is a bitch rather have my kids multiculteral to fit better into the new world order he he he

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      • on March 4, 2013 at 3:57 pm gunslingergregi

        i can see where you are coming from jv but when you see guy after guy who is in the top percentile on money and can’t keep a bitch from fucking him up the implication of that is that its a risky enterprize. Then the guy from the mummy movies going bankrupt from child support. No amount of game will stop a woman from fucking you up if she wants to only the threat of death and even then some will be willing to die to fuck you up

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      • on March 4, 2013 at 5:05 pm Anonymous

        “Epicanthic folds, colourless eyes, and brown labia are instant boner killers. Blonde pubic hair and petal pink nipples mark the creme de la creme of womanhood.”

        You do realize their are Asian populations with blond hair or different color eyes, right?

        “White men who breed with asian women are losers who know they aren’t worthy of passing on their genetic legacy so they purposefully destroy it. Doormats incapable of keeping their own women under control, they import the foreign product of a different breed of man that didn’t fuck up.”

        You can’t possibly be this stupid. You sound exactly like a Feminist in reverse. “A REAL MAN could handle all this jelly! Hmmhmm!”

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      • on March 4, 2013 at 6:23 pm lulz

        “Blonde pubic hair and petal pink nipples mark the creme de la creme of womanhood.”

        Gotta love projection 101. The hamster is strong in this one.

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      • on March 4, 2013 at 6:44 pm lulz

        “There isn’t any reason why you can’t marry (or cohabit with) one woman for childbearing and have discrete affairs with younger sweeties on the side when your wife becomes distastefully aged.”

        I’m sure you’ll make a great husband. If you can find anyone. Stay Classy.

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      • on March 4, 2013 at 10:26 am JV

        You’re right, there are no thin white women in existence. Funny how there are thin white women everywhere I go. I must be living in the twilight zone.

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      • on March 4, 2013 at 4:52 pm Anonymous

        Way to miss the point JV. I’m a generous anonymous with my lessers, so I’m going to assume your lack of arithmetic skills is to score a point rather than being a complete fucktard. The obesity (not merely overweight…) rate of the US is 30%. Japan and South Korea are about 3.2%. Any questions?

        This on the other hand, I can’t let slide: “Funny how there are thin white women everywhere I go.” You remind me of those people going: “everyone I know has a university degree” even though only 30% of the general public in the US does. As you descend down in social class, the women get fatter. The idea that poor Cambodian rice farmer can get a thinner wife than the average American in the heartland should, at the least, concern you.

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      • on March 4, 2013 at 6:57 pm JV

        I’m not American.

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      • on March 6, 2013 at 7:51 pm Anonymous

        Then why the fuck are you even posting about the “lack” or “not lack” of thin American women? Congratulations, with a single sentence you’ve become even dumber than I thought possible. Next you’re going to say you are not really a man posting, but instead actually a broom.

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      • on March 5, 2013 at 10:18 am Uncle Elmer

        I miss Cambodia, home of the best pop music on the planet. On youtube search Khmer Rom Vong and prepare for an aural and visual feast.

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      • on March 4, 2013 at 6:28 pm lulz

        Thin white women everywhere, and none that JV can talk into making babies with him and settling down. Post the family pics or GTFO.

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    • on March 4, 2013 at 7:57 am Flip

      That was my reaction as well.

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      • on March 5, 2013 at 12:28 am thwack

        JV
        Epicanthic folds, colourless eyes, and brown labia are instant boner killers.
        —————————————————————————————

        get back in your cave Casper; and take this mass coronal ejaculation with you:

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  9. on March 3, 2013 at 2:59 pm Mark

    Strip clubs, massage parlors, prostitutes and all forms of commercial sex are a waste of money but can be useful in certain limited situations. If you’re the kind of beta male orbiter who hangs around girls doing them favors all the time in exchange for being kept in the friend zone, replacing that with trading money for sex is a step up. At least you are requiring the girl to give you some sort of sexual pleasure. You can take your attention and your money and withhold it from the women who won’t do anything sexual with you and make them compete for it with women who will. Women instinctively understand this which is why prostitution was largely outlawed in this country after they got the vote and could influence the laws pertaining to it. People always use the government to restrict competition and enforce monopolies and this falls into that category (the nonprofessionals are enforcing their sexual monopoly). If you’re a young guy, gaming girls into giving you sex for free is even better but buying sex is better than being the beta who pedestalizes some girl and becomes her errand boy and asexual buddy. In some cases where the guy is old, really rich, and doesn’t have much time to game girls it may even be the rational choice.

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  10. on March 3, 2013 at 4:48 pm Rick Derris

    Completely O/T:

    This should freak you out. Scary charts about the current crappy economic situation.

    http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/02/27/7-employment-charts-youve-got-to-see.aspx

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    • on March 3, 2013 at 5:25 pm Libertardian

      Who needs a job? Just keep the gimmedats coming.

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    • on March 3, 2013 at 5:36 pm Canadian Friend

      If the media was doing its job, which is inform people, Obama would not have been re-elected

      Almost everything Obama does is bad for the USA.

      most people know more about their favorite celebrity than about what their president is doing to their nation.

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    • on March 3, 2013 at 8:38 pm gunslingergregi

      65 percent of men employed well i guess they not counting drug dealers or thieves that number would be higher and are they counting the incarcerated as having a job he he he

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    • on March 3, 2013 at 8:40 pm gunslingergregi

      or maybe the mgtow has become popular

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    • on March 3, 2013 at 8:41 pm gunslingergregi

      no wait superimpose that over affirmatve action hires

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  11. on March 3, 2013 at 5:15 pm whorefinder

    I am shocked, SHOCKED I say, that my immortal comment has never made Comment of the Week.

    Oh well….RAPE!

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  12. on March 3, 2013 at 6:37 pm taterearl

    Heh.

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    • on March 3, 2013 at 8:27 pm gunslingergregi

      not bad guess we should all get an audience and a camera

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      • on March 4, 2013 at 1:19 am Comment_Whatever

        Yeah, the job situation has gotten pretty messed up for most people these days. Could be better work for security types like gunslingergregi in the near future though.

        gunslingergregi, I tried to send you an email about how I’ve been and the current job situation but your old email address doesn’t seem to work anymore.

        My old email is gone to and your old email seems to not be working. I don’t think me giving you my email or asking for yours here is a good idea. To much chance of being trolled by twelve year old brats and spambots.

        If you added your email to your youtube account for a day or two, I’ll send you the email from my current email with a detail on my personal life that you know added that will prove it is me and not some bored brat. That should take care of it. You can delete the email address on youtube then.

        This is a long process, I know, but I really don’t like being trolled which is why I’m not asking you to post it here. You also can’t delete it here and you don’t need the email spamming either.

        Even if you don’t want to do this, could you say so, so I know you’ve actually read this?

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  13. on March 3, 2013 at 7:31 pm Comment Of The Week « PUA Central

    […] under: Comment Winners …read more Source: Chateau […]

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  14. on March 3, 2013 at 9:54 pm Scray

    Oh, my FR from the Lazy Cad thread finally got up here https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/02/22/lazy-cad-game/#comment-414250.

    I got one in this thread coming soon, too.

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  15. on March 3, 2013 at 10:09 pm Uncle Elmer

    You can start your journey here :

    You Might Also Like :

    http://www.the-spearhead.com/2012/02/20/a-man-wants-a-wife-not-a-co-worker

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  16. on March 4, 2013 at 4:01 am MrJohn

    Well here’s an excellent comment to consider; Update the links to the right! Many of the blogs you are linking to are closed down.

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  17. on March 4, 2013 at 9:46 am Matthew Thomas

    If you want to fuck a whore then just pay her the money, its got to be easier than jumping through all her bull shit hoops.

    I don’t know why anyone would want to date a sex worker anyway, they are clearly all damaged.

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    • on March 4, 2013 at 10:18 am dannyfrom504

      Strippers and sex workers are 2 different things. Strippers will dance in various forms of undress seeking tips, but aren’t necessarily out to sleep with you (even though you might WANT to bang her). Sex workers are there to accept money in exchange for a fuck.

      Pretty big difference. Don’t get it twisted.

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      • on March 4, 2013 at 3:21 pm Ace Haley

        But aren’t a lot of strippers also sex workers on the side?

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      • on March 4, 2013 at 3:29 pm dannyfrom504

        Maybe in Thailand or Hong Kong. Some will charge an herb to fuck, but if you have game she’ll meet up with you when she’s off.

        Shit, most women make you spend money before they put out anyway.

        To me, sex worker means she makes her living by money she gets from banging tricks. That’s not most strippers MO. They just want the $$$$ and won’t put out.

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      • on March 4, 2013 at 8:14 pm derpityderp

        I knew two women that worked at O’Farrel Theatre in S.F., which is pretty much -the- strip club. Both made close to 1k a night. Half of that went up their nose, the other half was spent on assholes, just like the post says. Both abused by fathers/uncles/brothers/gang bangs. And people brag about dating a woman who stuffs a huge black dildo in her hoohooooo in front of 200 really odd korean/japanese men on a nightly basis. And if you pay extra, she’ll rub your bulge in your pants on her panties. And if you pay really really extra, you get the short time sukkyfukky. Yes, your stripper gf will suck korean dick for 1k bonus cash, and it happens OFTEN. What do you think the VIP rooms are for, DERP.

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      • on March 5, 2013 at 10:13 am dannyfrom504

        i def saw some shit i couldn’t unsee in thailand. the funny thing was my fucking GF wanted to see the “dart shooting from the vagina and popping a balloon across the stage” show.

        i just drank beer and got my ass handed to me in connect 4 by the bar girls.

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      • on March 5, 2013 at 5:26 pm Anonymous

        Funny thing is Dan, one of them had genital herpes and she -always- told who she was sleeping with about it, and they gladly fucked her anyway. People will do anything for a beautiful girl, even catch herpes for life.

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  18. on March 4, 2013 at 2:04 pm gig

    But think of the racism you could practice? You could feel “extra white!”

    HAHA, good one, Thwack! That alone makes you much better than Obsidian, who was unable in thousands of gigantic comments of making a sinngle joke!

    white women age poorly

    The less Nordic a white woman is, the better she ages. A good diet plus avoidance of carrerism can make wonders to how a white woman ages.

    the kids are usually good looking from asian woman white man matches and intelligent

    This is true for cases in which he Asian in question is either Japanese or Korean, not so much for the rest. And yes, they do make smart kids and hot girls.

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  19. on March 4, 2013 at 2:44 pm gig

    This should freak you out. Scary charts about the current crappy economic situation.

    First game-rule from the book of gig. Stop reading end-of-the-world economic blogs if you want to get laid.

    Second rule from the book of gig: take those blogs’ advice as contrarian evidence when making investment decisions

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    • on March 4, 2013 at 6:30 pm lulz

      You’re right gig, I lost a TON of money when I bought all my silver at $19 three years ago and it’s 30-40% higher now. I should have listened to you and bought facebook instead.

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    • on March 4, 2013 at 10:17 pm Moses

      “In this country, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women.”
      – Tony Montana

      Truer words were never spoken.

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  20. on March 4, 2013 at 4:05 pm chris

    Masculine men are racist.

    http://pss.sagepub.com/content/early/2013/02/05/0956797612451467.abstract

    http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/ironically-a-mans-face-can-tell-you-if-hes-likely-to-act-like-a-racist

    And an oldy that I put in a comment here a while back

    http://pss.sagepub.com/content/early/2012/05/21/0956797611435133.abstract

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  21. on March 4, 2013 at 4:24 pm gunslingergregi

    dam i’m posting too much lol where is pupu when ya need the bitch to do a count

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  22. on March 4, 2013 at 8:20 pm derpityderp

    Nobody is disputing that thwack can get white pussy. BFD. What he cannot get is someone to give him white children and settle down with him.

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  23. on March 5, 2013 at 1:22 pm Uncle Elmer

    “Blonde pubic hair and petal pink nipples mark the creme de la creme of womanhood. ”

    Detect a whiff of inexperience in that comment. For how would you know this unless you have slept with a variety of ethnic women? Your porn collection is not a reliable source of information on this topic.

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  24. on March 5, 2013 at 2:22 pm ken

    Between 15 and 50, oriental women look good to me. At 50, they turn into crones. Their voices then sound like crows. As the Korean saying goes, of the twelve sounds of a crow, none of them are music.

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  25. on March 8, 2013 at 5:44 am daigoro

    http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2013/01/no_self-respecting_woman_would.html

    Your move, Heartiste…

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