Some gross feminist careerist reptile who works for Facebook (dying media company if the decline in young recruits is any indication) has a long interview in Salon explaining her insipid views on the disparity between the sexes in upper echelon representation and the oft-debunked (but obviously not often enough) “gender pay gap”. I urge you to skim it quickly, because it’s largely the usual unverifiable, proof by assertion femcunt claptrap. However, there is one response she gives which bracingly reveals how a lot of modern American women, unawares or not, strategize their dating lives.
Look, I’m not pretending I can give advice to every single person or every single couple for every situation; I’m making the point that we are not going to get to equality in the workforce before we get to equality in the home. [ed: could you imagine being hitched to this repulsive ballbuster?] Not going to happen. You know, I give advice to young women. I say “pick a partner.” If that partner is female you are in good shape because you are likely to split up things very evenly; the data’s very strong that same-sex couples split responsibilities much more evenly. [ed: the data is also strong that dyke couples have high rates of domestic violence] If you are a female and your partner is likely to be male, this is something to really pay attention to. I say in the book, date the bad boys, date the crazy boys, but do not marry them. Marry the boys who are going to change half of the diapers.
“I don’t wanna sound like a feminist slut or nothin… but I kinda wanna fuck the sexy jerks and make the niceguys wait to put a ring on it.”
I hope every beta male in the world is reading this post right now, because this bitch just opened up and exposed the mouth to hell that burns at the heart of every woman’s naked id. Not all women are so aggressively calculating, but most feel the subsonic thump of compulsion to autonomically follow the alpha fux, beta bux dating strategy. It’s your job as a man with functioning testicles to stop women from using you in this manner. Paradoxically, most women will love you harder for stopping them from indulging their worst instincts.
Reader Days of Broken Arrows writes:
Few quotes reveal what’s so dysfunctional about modern dating than this — and that includes her desultory use of the word “boys” in lieu of men.
Exactly right. While the cad/dad dichotomy of choice in women is as ancient as the tree of life, the social constraints on satisfying the dichotomy have never been looser than now. Post-modern, post-industrial, pre-singularity West — whatever you want to call it — is enabling women to not only pursue an ultimately self-defeating dualistic cad/dad strategy that will leave the lot of them feeling spiteful and unloved, but it’s encouraging them to extol the strategy as an empowering way to interact with men. It’s as if women have forgotten that men respond to sexual market cues as well, and won’t just casually accept disadvantageous dating roles that leave them supine to women’s machinations.
I’ve noticed that as Western women have become masculinized and set adrift from their main purpose as nurturers and child bearers to ricochet down a rocky crevasse of careerism, multi-decade pump and dump victimization and pre-wall beta male settling, their desire, their need, to belittle men has increased. This need is likely born of frustration. And so we see them tossing around terms like “boys” and “guys” to avoid addressing their potential lovers and providers as “men”. Similarly, as Western men have become feminized and neutered of their ability to project dominance, their need to glorify women and accord their every trivial accomplishment or wayward musing a hero’s benediction has increased. The behaviors of the sexes are in the process of meiosis and reformulation, a classic switcheroo, and this is a harbinger of the end days of a cultural empire.
What the vapid feminist entity above confesses, perhaps unwittingly, is that chicks truly deeply honestly dig jerks. They dig jerks so much that they have to be counseled not to seek marriage with them, and to seek instead marriage to boring men who don’t viscerally excite them. For you see, it’s a myth that women don’t want the jerks for long term romances. They do. The problem is that the jerks don’t want to be tied down, especially not to unfeminine battle-axes who think their vaginas are gold-plated and their reality-denying stridency is evidence of their sexual worth.
A few very beautiful women — not the Salon interviewee — can successfully pursue an “alpha fux, alpha bux” dating strategy. This is the equivalent of hitting the jackpot as a woman. And in point of fact, beautiful women have fewer sex partners than their more modest-looking sisters. The reason is simple: when you have the goods, you are less likely to give them away for free. Beautiful women can capture — and keep — alpha male attention without resorting to leg-spreading enticement. Homelier women must spread… or accept loneliness.
But most women are not that beautiful. For the majority, an “alpha fux, beta bux” strategy will net them, if they are in reasonably good shape, a decade of fantasy-fueling sex and miserable relationships, culminating in marriage (and a bank-busting wedding extravaganza) to a doughy herbling who must know deep in his bones that he is paying dearly for damaged product which better men than he used for free back when it was fresh off the shelves. He must also know that his rode-worn beloved who is about to execute the final stage of her indentured beta male servant plan considers him a second-rate alternative to the lovers of her past. If women don’t think this galls the betas who must accede to these liberated, feminist-friendly conditions, they are in for a rude awakening when they discover how quickly the hubby herblings give up on life and on pleasing their cackling sow wives.
An “alpha fux, beta bux” dating strategy may sound, on paper, very pleasing to women, but pursuit of it is almost guaranteed to lead to frustration and bitterness for most women in the modern mating market. One, the natural order of things can withstand only so much subversion before the spirit breaks. An aging woman with an extensive sexual history will come to resent her unexciting diaper-changing bore of a husband with whom she settled, and he will resent her rapidly imploding sexual attractiveness, acidic demeanor and daily tacit reminders of his low status.
Two, men are not wind-up toys ready to do the bidding of manipulative women; those jerkboy fux and betaboy bux may refuse to play along. The sexual market is the collision of competing reproductive goals, and in that plunderdome of all against all, where the only guiding principle is self-interest, the jerkboys may not bother showing up for a date and the betaboys may decide the jerkboys are getting the better end of the deal, and adjust their behavior accordingly, perhaps in the arms of a mistress or porn. Or game.
A woman who plays this strategy to the hilt is taking a big risk that she will be left a destitute single mom or, at best, an unhappy and unloveable EatPrayLove commodity, an appendage to the dehumanizing globalist corporate borg, desirable to no one but the most desperate loser men or conniving schemers. And, looking around, this is what we see happening all over America. The crosstabbed and powerpointed nth wave modern feminist woman will realize, at the end of her long, exhilarating but empty journey, that her happiness as a woman was never amenable to her best-laid blueprints for the efficiently maximized love life.

The FB lady is fugly CH. I can’t even fathom reading the article after seeing her repulsive face.
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“da professional womenz ode”
alpha fucks and beta bucks
dat is how we roll
da butthexting cockass we fucks and sucks
and in our anuthes it doth deosul
alpha fucks and beta bucks
it is da way of da fed
to transfer assetss to dose who butthext
cuckold dose who pay for our bread
beta bucks and alpha fucks
it’s what day teach us we;’re entitled too
da assetts from betas we plucks
after da alphas desol us through our hole for poo
lzozozlzzolzlzlzlz
cuckold da betas cockhold da alphas
datsz what day taught us in mba grad school
as da feiisnsits see no truth nor justice in their laws
and say da great books for menz was all fools.
yes, yes, i did very good on my gmats
dey bernenakifed my soul away, left me with cats
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today da professor GBFM would like to lecture on INFLATION lzozozz
once upon a times $50,000 would buy yo u a nice house a nice wife two cars and three kids who you could play baseballs with and raise to be nice girls and nice boyz zlzoozoz
today $1,000,000 will buys you an cassocked assockccoked, embittered, doused, deosueld and bernanenkied butthexed dfeminsistasz who will take %70 70% of oyiry assets in divroce court as ada dirvroce industries forces men to pay for past use oif a pussiezzes which is why da enoeteconths hate prostiutuitions as it does not make man pay for past pussy uyse but only present pussy use and da neococonths hatchet comepetitzzinonszz lzozlzlzoz, and dat $1,000,000 will be used to pay your wives dirvocre attorney and fund her future as socking sesisosns dat day got her hooked on in college during da prrima noctae asosckingszz seeisosnsnsns lzozlzozozo and den da $1,000,000 will be whittled down furthers buying presscirtption drugs for your dumbed down drugged up kids who you never get to see because ebernenekifiers seized den as poker chips in da fed’s wealth transfer games zlzozlzl
so now you see da definition of butthex, wealth-rttrannsfeeringz INFLATION lzozozlzlzoz
ust remember dat many are not ready to be unbuttblugged from da matrix lzlzzllzzlzl
so many have been butthexed for so long dat 2 try 2 take da life-sucking cockas outta der anuth will result in dem h8ing h8ing h8ing u and defending da tucker max rheyems with bgoldman sax buttehxtteetrszz zlzozlzzooz
like next tim eu are out with a chick, ask her,
“so how does it feel 2 be da first generation of oemenz buttcocked and deosuled by da federlr reseverssZZ? lzozozozozozz”
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dis is why it is better to just hooks ups with da owmenz da desouled womenz rather than try to talk or reasons or logic with demzz lzozozlz
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lzoozlz alpha fucks & beta buckz lzozozlzolzozozozoz
get da t-shirt for your wifez and fiancezzz!!! all u betatsz zzlozolzzl
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“da professional womenz ode”
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when a womanz hits thirty, she asks 2 quetsionsz zlzozzlzo
1. whwere have all th e good menz gones and
2. why is my butt sore?
be sure to read the front and back of theGBFM THONGZ zlzlzlzlzlzlzl which you can take off your fiance you beta herbsz zlzlzloz:
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where do we go for dispensation if we were part of the desouling process
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or is it if ya desouled 30 ya have to save 30 ho’s?
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lzozozoz
please go to da lavarotey lavatory
grab a toweell towell
and wipe the shit of your weeiner
and stop putting it in
other men’z future wivez
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oh its only the buthole desouling that is bad ok i’m mostly good then
i make a chick beg before i do that he he he
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Here my attempt at making your ode more readable.
The (improved) Professional Woman’s Ode
alpha fucks and beta bucks
that is how we roll
the thug ass cocks we fuck and suck
despoiling our wretched butts / cunts
alpha fucks and beta bucks
it is the way to be fed
to transfer assets to our lovers
while cuckolding those paying for our bread
beta bucks and alpha fucks
it’s what we’re entitled to
the assets from betas we pluck
after alphas used us as spittoons
as we spat out thuglings from our wombs
hahahahahaha / woooooooo / oooo oooo, oooo oooo (high pitch party girl’s voice at a nightclub)
cuckold the betas cockhold the alphas
independent till the end
forever longing for Mr big
to save us from the wall we just hit
alpha fucks and beta bucks
scraping by the barrel
male privilege sucks
Mr bigglesworth’s shits too much
forever fighting our way back into the kitchen
alpha bucks and betas suck
where have all the “good men” gone?
They prefer young kittens to old hags
And all appear to be Schrodinger rapists
Alpha fucks and betas suck
Don’t you dare judge us (collectively and repeatedly stamp their feet 3 times in unison)
As we will always pine for our misspent youth
With not a single shred of remorse.
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nice but pelaseez be sure to spelele correctly and use PROPERZ GRAMAMAZZ When you s translating da GBFM! oteheriwwse my poetry is lost in trananslationz zlzlzozozlzlzzoozlzozz
thank you nate and have a nice dayz!!!! also you missed out on the moral premise expressed in the final couplet which plays on the moral symmetry of the universe–because they fucked and sucked, they now get to spend teh rest of their lives with cats, instead of honored as wives and mothers and grandmothers with childrenz zlzozlzlzlzl the joke is on dem! lzozlzlzolzlzzolzlz omg zlzzozozoz
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Oh well, I guess I could have made more with Mr Bigglesworth verse and reference at the end on how they get eaten alive by their horde of cats upon their lonely deaths.
Somehow I can easily see someone having a go at making a song of it.
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yah man feel free to use it all anywhere lzozlzolzzoz i thk the matrix post would be funny in digital animation:
http://greatbooksformen.wordpress.com/2010/05/27/i-can-show-you-the-way-neo-but-you-will-have-to-walk-it-zlozlzlzozzlozlzlzo/
alos one cock rule would rock as a animated rap:
OMG both of you betado9uches above are violating THE ONE COCK RULE!!!
You are alloowing chix to bring other COCKS into your mind lozlzlzzoz zlozllzl. The second a chick makes me think of another cock she is outta my house outta my mind or if she’s texting on a date which almost never happens because i almost never date i go “i gotta use the men’s room lzozlzl” and then i leave her with the bill. she can text her ten other cocks to comne over and pay for her drniks/dinner lzozlzlzllzlzlz and then,. after paying, they have full right to gizizizizizalizzz all over her lzozlz
“I’ve been seeing this girl for a year. We live together and I’ve still got hand.”
OMG lzozzlzll wtf are fuckity fucks doing with chix in your homes? lzozlzlzlz omg lozlzlzlzlzl looozers lzozlzlzlz1!! hzhzh
THEY VIOLATE THE ONE COCK RULE THEY ARE OUT! OUT!
OUT!
O U T OUT! lzozlzlzl
OMG lozlzlzozlozozolzl wft r u doing dating a chick 4 a yer did your dick fall off? Were yu chosen by Beernanke and given an award and medal to support today’s slutty slutt vampiressses cuckholders cockcutters?
sounds 2 me it is the latter as u have no cock lzozlzlzlzl lzzozl
and she made you think of another cock
fucktard haven’t u heard of the one cock rule?
hey yo!! let’s teach these douches somethin ’bout nbein a man yo!
throw a beat over this way.
yo yo yo yo
yo yo yo
now hit it!
one cock rule one cock rule
i ain’t no beta fool i ain’t no beta tool
about another cock ya make me think
i’m gone, yo bitch,
let the betas buy yas yer next drink
one cock rule one cock rule
i ain’t no beats fool i ain’t no beta tool
over vampires and werewolfe you ginas all drool
letting their cocks touch your deep down stool
then you blame the betas in school
and transfer wealth for the bernanke gene pool
jonah goldberg sends our alphas 2 die on foreign shores
stuffing his face with dc pizza as they die in fiat wars
neocon womenz repeating butthexers lies in their mags
even after menopause and no need for da ragz
telling young chickas to lust after vampires
as they build their fiat empires
one cock rule one cock rule
i ain’t no fool i ain’t no tool
about another cock ya make me think
i’m gone, yo bitch,
let the betas buy yas yer next drink
let the betas pay to raise your bastard kids
let the betas sign teh fiat masters marriage contracts
theft in fiat inflation is hid
as they swing their bankrupting axe
i don’t care what last night u did,
ever since i kicked ya gina out, i been relaxed.
as they promote butthex across the land
ripping out fetuses from parenthood planned
as fathers form teh homes the neocons ban
the atalnatic authoresses just don’t undertsand
but when chix wakes up and her butt is sore
it’s not my fault no–it’s cause she’s a whore
as the fiat masters desoul women with butthex cock
teach them to transfer wealth with pre-teen strumpet rock
one cock rule one cock rule
i ain’t no fool i ain’t no tool
about another cock ya make me think
i’m gone, yo bitch,
let the betas buy yas yer next drink
womenz womenz bernanke took advanatge of you
you wasted your best years on vampires and werewolves
and now you cry your tears cause of your sore anus
stamp your little feet saying, “you betas must pay for this!!!”
and aging neocon women promoting butthexing vampires
teacxhing women to lust after the undead
as the neocons suck the western world dry
bankrupting it all,m enlsaving it debt
while selfish womenz at the atalnatic monthly
cry cry cry
cry cry cry
not for you or me
but for themselves
not for the 50,000,000 aborted souls
but for their dried up ginas and sore assholes
so many chances they had to marry a nice guy
but he left her dry
so whe butthexed with the asshole
and now see her cry
and wonder why
and transofrm the entire univeristy
into a program to further the fiat lie
to transfer wealth and wage war and death
to about fifty million more
and redefine fifty cocks in her ass as empowered
and not a whore
all together now!
lzozllzzl lozlzlz zlozozoz
lozlzl lzozozlz ozlzooz zlo9oo
lozlzlz ozlzoozl ozlzlzoz lzozlz zlzoz zlzozzlozlzozlo
one cock rule one cock rule
i ain’t no fool i ain’t no tool
about another cock ya make me think
i’m gone, yo bitch,
let the betas buy yas yer next drink
alreayd seen yer pink stink
bent ya over the sink
and howscomes the bankers southpark never does satarize
because everything is fair game–truth love honor–excpet for fiat butthexing lies.
all together now!
lzozllzzl lozlzlz zlozozoz
lozlzl lzozozlz ozlzooz zlo9oo
lozlzlz ozlzoozl ozlzlzoz lzozlz zlzoz zlzozzlozlzozlo
AND THREE COCK RULE:
^^^^ to the 24 for or so tardbetadouches who voted my “one cock rule” rap down
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what do ya want?
a two cock rule rap?
or three cock rule?
three cock rule, three cock rule,
i’m a beta herb my own cock won’t do
i need a chick to cuckold me
i need a chick on me to pee
three cock rule, three cock rule,
i love being the greater fool
one cock in her mouth, one in her anus,
i keep mine in my pants,
and pay her bills and rent and fare for da bus.
so she can club and grind, on denim cocks dance.
three cock rule, three cock rule,
i treat my lady like a nice guy,
give her chivarly while with 2 others she doth lie,
three cock rule, three cock rule,
while your cock doth touch her stool,
i play videogames @ home in my single mom’s basement,
as teh fed fianance feminsits studies @ school,
teaching her to love and bail out the butthexers,
to persucte me 4 letting her live 4 free,
while she tickles drummer/druggie cock until it goes
splooge splooge splooge! tee hee tee hee!
three cock rule, three cock rule,
i’m the beta herb, teh cuckholded fool,
i respect her, keep my cock in my pants,
fund her with other cocks to dance.
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or would u betaherbs prefer a five cock rule rap! omg i bet someofya would like dat! lzozl
lzozozozo
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awesome translation dude. LOLOLZlolozlzolzozoz
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Are you fucking retarded? Lzzllzzololzz…
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Seriously, where do these chicks live where they feel the sense of entitlement to give the rest of us advice? It’s like that (SINGLE) hideous man beast on Millionaire Matchmaker- I don’t want advice from ugly, fat, old JAPS.
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I dunno, I’m not a billionaire, but I tell them what to do with their money for a living. I’m better at it then they are.
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I like that you referred to “dyke couples” regarding domestic violence instead of “lesbians” or “same-sex partners who happen to be female.” Dyke man, that’s the word, haha.
Carry on sir.
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I can’t quite fathom the whole thing. If women feel revulsion and loathing towards beta males, the same as we feel towards fat chicks, then how can they possibly marry one? If a male friend genuinely advises me to ‘fuck the curvy chicks, the hot chicks, but marry a fat one’, I’d just laugh in his face, or knock him out cold. I mean, if I somehow got stuck a fat chick, I’d probably want to divorce her somewhere down the line too. But why get into such a situation in the first place?
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The short answer: expiry dates. Chicks and their biological timer.
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dis is because menz cna makez money as the get older which hot chix are primarrily attratcted toooooo
as a hot chickz getz older, and even if she makes a lot of moneyz, when she is 35 or 40 der is no more gina juice
i hope dis expalinz all of reality
from an eeveoelutioanry biliogical
standpointz science!!!!
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@obtuse observer, the answer is evolution theory. CH links to a great Russian ebook translated into somewhat broken English, the treatise to love by an aweful bore. The ideas in it are excellent. Then there is The Red Queen by Matt Ridley. The alpha fux, beta bux strategy is INSTINCTUAL for women to do. Cuckoldry is an evolutionarily rewarded strategy. For evolution there is nothing better than The Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins, but the preface is an apology smokescreen to feminists gatekeepers. The good books to read in terms of ideas have smokescreen shit in them all the time, so read between the lines and think in ideas. Evolution is KING.
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And it STILL wasn’t enough to keep the feminist ire away from Dawkins.
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Money. It’s really that simple.
http://romancecheater.com/why-women-love-money/
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If women feel revulsion and loathing towards beta males, the same as we feel towards fat chicks, then how can they possibly marry one? If a male friend genuinely advises me to ‘fuck the curvy chicks, the hot chicks, but marry a fat one’, I’d just laugh in his face, or knock him out cold.
that’s not a good analogy though, because the fat chick has got nothing you want, so you would not have married her. whereas the beta has resources that the woman wants/needs.
so the woman will marry the beta, bang the poolboy/personal trainer/gardener, and eventually when she can’t take hubby’s betaness any more, divorces him and takes half of his resources and custody of the children, one or more of which may in fact be the poolboy/personal trainer/gardener’s.
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I hear you but the gardener idea reminds me of “Lady Chatterley’s Lover” which was commie propaganda. 😉
There’s a minor conceptual mistake in terminology in the above post and that was in reference to the word ‘bux’. Sugar daddies, the alpha kind, will fux the best girls in their prime, just before the young natural alpha guys get their shot or at least in parallel. Whether these older men provide money or not doesn’t matter as long as it isn’t much to them. They get in first and go on to the next.
The girls aren’t ruined by this because they never tell their “alpha” bfs. The betas who later marry them only know about the two or three young jerks she was with. They never realize that there was a more varied carousel ride and neither to the previous boyfriends.
The betas of any age who believe in romance will get sloppy 22nds. They will then work like slaves and give half their earnings for that honor.
So this isn’t about paying vs getting it for free. It’s about who gets it first and last and how the guys who get it last also get fucked by the system.
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Sugar daddies, the alpha kind, will fux the best girls in their prime, just before the young natural alpha guys get their shot or at least in parallel. Whether these older men provide money or not doesn’t matter as long as it isn’t much to them. They get in first and go on to the next.
The girls aren’t ruined by this because they never tell their “alpha” bfs.
Weird.
Just yesterday I was reading about this Italian high-society chick who got passed around amongst all the old lechers in upper-crust British circles:
The outrageous confessions of an upper-class Lolita: Laurence Olivier, Robin Day, Lord Lambton … as a teenager, PETRONELLA WYATT was groped by a bevy of her famous father’s friends. Here, in an article that will justifiably enrage many, she says society must be less censorious of such behaviour. Even more controversially, she argues young women can be terribly manipulative…
Judging from the photos, back circa her 18th birthday, that bitch was sporting some epic, to-die-for udders.
PS: If you’re a dad with a hankering for the younger ladies, then start taking your daughter to ballet practice.
You’ll get hit on by so many hot-to-trot perky-titted ballet-tighted-camel-toed 15-, 16-, and 17-year-olds that you’ll be able to discontinue that Viagra prescription once and for all.
And I’m convinced that that sort of thing was the genesis for The Derb’s tete-a-tete with Andrew Sullivan – that The Derb must have been taking his daughter to ballet practice and he just didn’t have the self-discipline to keep his mouth shut anymore about what he had been observing all those years.
Or maybe he just didn’t want to keep his mouth shut about it.
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If a male friend genuinely advises me to ‘fuck the curvy chicks, the hot chicks, but marry a fat one’, I’d just laugh in his face, or knock him out cold.
Actually, I hear tell more often of the male version of alpha fux beta bux: fuck the fat chicks and marry a slender one you get lucky with.
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parental investment.
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because who you can fuck is different from who you can marry.
the alphas won’t marry her.
no girl actively seeks to marry a beta. They just feel their marriage itch, and instinctively KNOW the market value of what guy will put a ring on their finger (hint: it aint gonna be a sexy rock star)
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A better analogy would be “fuck sluts and whores, and marry a virgin”.
Men used to do it all the time, back when they had balls.
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Except an alpha can fuck only virgins and never stop with that MO.
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Good luck with that, in any society in which there still are virgins in plentiful supply……
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They don’t feel loathing, they just don’t get excited by them. The equivalent advice for men would be to go ahead and date all the crazy, drug addicted strippers you want but don’t marry one. Instead marry a plain jane who has what it takes to make a good wife and mother.
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That’s the right analogy in comparing men and women’s dating strategies. Women’s Alpha fux, Beta bux is fucking good looking criminals, wannabe criminals or Alpha or players and marrying a kind considerate beta man type. Men’s Alpha fux, beta bux is fucking drug addicted crazy strippers and marrying a plain Jane good mother type. The number one problem of the betas is not that they aren’t getting laid or even getting less than the best women, but that they are tolerating women for LTRs which they should walk away from not so much because of their lackluster looks but because of their horrid personalities and histories. The betas entire attitude should be if I wasn’t good enough for you then, you’re not good enough for me now even if the culture and laws were better and truly equitable or even in a man’s favor. Considering they’re not, men should wisely choose not to marry nor to shack up.
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“if I wasn’t good enough for you then, you’re not good enough for me now”
This should replace “E Pluribus Unum” as the American national motto
It’s the first concept a beta needs to understand and the Facebook lady needs to directly answer to this on national television.
The second concept, however, is that it may not matter if you were good enough then. She still might not be good enough for you now, although it would go a long way for her if she had been a faithful and kind partner all along, through thick and thin, through unemployment and hard times.
I disagree, however, with the idea that an alpha will do druggy strippers and other high count women and then “settle” for the virgins later.
The alpha may choose to do virgins his whole life.
And the PUA trend in idealizing non-paid relationships with strippers as something an alpha would do is a bit puzzling.
Sure, a low count 10 who just got in the business maybe. Preferably someone he recruited to do it only for him. But then, whether he pays her or not is less important than the fact that other men didn’t get there first. Not paying is preferable and more alpha but getting there first, consistently, is more alpha than being second or fourth or tenth consistently.
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I am not sure if what we feel for betas males can be purely characterized as revulsion and loathing. Perhaps revulsion and loathing is conversely related to the degree of beta-hood. A greater beta who is attractive and rich, I’d say is what many a women’s dreams are made off. I would also venture out and assert that many women will not feel like they are settling if they are attractive enough to snug one of these kinds of beta. I doubt many women will feel like they are settling if they marry a Hugh Jackman hunky lookalike who makes 80-100k a year even if he is beta….just sayin. In this kind of context, the character of the woman plays a big role in what she considers settling as well. Not every girl thinks having a one night stand or being FWBs with an Alpha is an accomplishment or “living the life”…
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Have you seen Hugh Jackman’s wife? She’s overweight. I like him from afar from what I’ve seen of him as I’ve never met him plus he’s a good man and a good actor, but he’s a beta. I saw him on a PBS cooking show with his wife and the host of the show is a half Korean and half African American woman named Marjah when I was bored one sleepless night and nothing better seemed on after 2 a.m.
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And, he sings in American musicals!
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Obv he is a fag
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But this is what I am saying though….Maybe it is one of those “you won’t know until you are in it situations” but all I have seen is women coo-ing over him with his beta musical singing ways and all. I think if the man is rich and handsome but has beta traits (i.e. overly kind, romantic, softside etc) many women would not think it is settling. I’d argue they would consider it a dream even.
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Maybe for a week Olive.
When I started reading this blog, my main gf was relatively overweight for a 25 year old. Somehow I’ve been able to instill dread and now she’s a knockout who won’t eat after it gets dark (a good rule to look trim).
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Meanwhile Hugh Jackman has clearly been unable to instill dread despite being rich and famous. There’s something very wrong with that picture.
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He’s rich and famous. Nothing more to it.
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Hugh’s wife is 57 years old. At some point, age is going to catch up to you. She’s 13 years old than he is. THAT, to me, is more the indicator than what a woman nearly 60 looks like.
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You have to forgive them. They were raised by televisions, so they think older women are all supposed to look like skin stretched over bones punctuated by silicone implants.
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“I can’t quite fathom the whole thing.”
Indeed. I can’t either.
One of the most alarming and stultifying realizations I’ve had since I started reading the playbook is that women–all women–reserve their most strident hatred for the man who does them the disservice of marrying them.
And this realization, like so many others, was only reinforced and buffeted by what I had seen happen all around me my entire life–particularly in my devout protestant (so-called) Christian family.
There has to be something else or additional going on here beyond just the intermix of biology and culture or the abandonment of old norms or customs.
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The drive to reproduce is why. For that, they want a stable secure environment to raise kids. Even women who don’t want kids search for it. Case in point, my long time friend. Been with the same woman for over 20 years. She’s had multiple affairs, an ongoing one with her boyfriend she was with before my buddy. He somehow muddles along thinking he has complete control over her. I can’t decide whether to laugh or cry at him. His response when I, and others point out the behavior of the modern American cow, is that it better than being alone. Think about that for a few minutes. This chick curses at him, berates him in front of me and he just takes it. It’s gotten to the point that I longer want to hang out with him. Don’t let it happen to you!
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of the answers i’ve received, yours stand out for the assessment that females want a stable secure environment to raise kids (so do men). but, why would a woman who wants a stable environment actively seeks to jeopardize it by cheating? i’m aware men aren’t entirely innocent in this regard (actually, just the alphas), but that just goes to show how fucked up marriage has become, i suppose
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it’s all just a shit test. It probably started off as a snide comment that was left unchecked. It progressed to cussing out, then outright disrespect in front of others, to flirting in front of him etc… The guy never put that ass in check so now she has ran afoul. Dude is a beta (maybe even an omega). This is how it always happens. That’s why all these PUAs tell you to get out and practice and skip relationships in favor of “plate spinning”… If you don’t naturally hold an alpha frame, it is going to take you a while before your testicles emerge from your abdomen.
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This is an important point worth exploring. Whereas most of us would simply spend the rest of our lives unmarried rather than marry a fat chick, many women would do the same with respect to beta males.
In the case of women marrying beta males, however, the beta males SHOULD not be so unattractive for the average woman based on her own beauty and intellect.
I believe that many years of hooking up with alpha males has thrown off the barometers of average big city women. It is like someone used to luxury that suddenly loses all of his wealth. Because he is accustomed to luxury, living normally seems like hardship.
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Everyone is trying to “breed up” in their way. I don’t worry too much about it, as it is a natural thing to do.
So I just try to be the best me I can be, and get the best that I can from that, and not worry overmuch about what “best” means to the masses. It’s often said that you can’t stand out when you’re trying too hard to fit in. Most people won’t really commit to that idea, but anyone who’s trying to better their situation should.
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Yup. I am just reading a novel (Sturmzeit) by Charlotte Link, set in WWI.
And the heroine, after various dalliances and a baby girl, settles for a super-nice-guy-very-good-provider beta who takes care of all her needs – except she lies awake at night realizing that she cannot love him, even though she wants to. Unless the author is a covering pseudonym, she is obviously a woman – who knows the game. Book written ca 1995.
Thor
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“she is obviously a woman – who knows the game” – not necessarily – Anna Karenina is also this type of a woman, attached to a beta provider but wants the bad boy. This book was even recommended by the fat black woman to her book club. However, at least Tolstoy made the characters redeem selves–Anna by throwing herself under a train, and the cad joined the volunteers to liberate Bulgaria from the Turks.
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And Lady Chatterley’s Lover was about a beta coming home from WWI only to be cuckolded by his beautiful young wife with the gardener.
DH Lawrence was writing Commie Porn with this.
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My understanding was the veteran would rather play cards with his less-attractive nurse, so everyone was ultimately fine with the arrangement. I think she realized money didn’t make her happy (a central theme for Lawrence) but a man in a cabin in the woods did. lol I have really, really, really read too many novels.
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I watched a lot of porn too.
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Well, cut it out! You’ll eventually lose your will to live. I can’t watch it. Too depressing. Like the first Saturday night you’re no longer with someone.
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LOL Kate. Where is your ability to self-love? 😉
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Meanie.
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@Kate, curious, why do you find porn depressing?
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Olive,
Did you ever see a poor little urchin with her nose up against the window of the sweetshop, but she has no money and the shop is closed for the day?
That’s why Kate finds porn depressing. 😉 But Kate shouldn’t worry because there’s a nice old man coming along who would be very happy to buy her an ice-cream cone and some gobstoppers.
Now, Calamata, you being a lady lawyer you must love it, esp. some of that good James Deen, eh?
Of course, I could introduce you both to much, much more *interesting* pornography — but it might scare you.–
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Benchwarmer envy.
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Bummer… There are techniques to learn I see,
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“now you being a lady lawyer you must love…”
It frightens me how accurate you just were…..
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“But Kate shouldn’t worry because there’s a nice old man coming along who would be very happy to buy her an ice-cream cone and some gobstoppers.”
There is? Does he live at the North Pole?
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The unmitigated access to porn is bad, not from a boo hoo feminist standpoint, but from the fact that it is bad for men. Men should be out fucking, fighting, and saving civilization, instead of sitting in their rooms with their dicks in their hands watching a poor Ukranian girl get spitroasted by two Israelis.
There is nothing wrong with “self love” or pictures of cute naked girls- but the type of porn out there, and the addictive nature of the stuff is not good for men. Takes away your will to power. Look at Japan.
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@Flavia
“Men should be out fucking, fighting, and saving civilization, instead of sitting in their rooms with their dicks in their hands watching a poor Ukranian girl get spitroasted by two Israelis. ”
That’s a great comment. Very true.
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@Kate,
I don’t understand *why* you’re on the bench. What is it you’re so cleverly hiding from our eyes — what demon possesses offline Kate?
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I don’t know how to change/fix things. I need someone to help me get out of my situation and I don’t have anyone. I have tried on my own and I just can’t do it. I am thinking maybe I need to hire a male lawyer. Perhaps a man- even a hired one- would be more effective than my previous efforts with a female one. It could also make things worse. Who knows. This is not stuff to talk about here.
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Kate,
Calm, kiddo. The tone of your reply is worrisome. It’s almost as if you didn’t write it.–
Lawyers? be careful. And even though these are –clearly– not things to discuss here I would simply mention that if you and your child are healthy, things are alright.
Weren’t you newly hopeful a few days back? Women.–
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Things are not alright. If you don’t want to know, don’t ask. And now back to our regularly scheduled programming.
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What I asked, suddenly querulous Kate, was why you were on the bench sexually. It surprises me when that happens to a woman.
That said, I’m sorry to hear that things are not alright, and I hope we’re not talking anything truly serious.
Back to the sitcom, mouthy gal.
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That’s what I was trying to explain to you. You’re only surprised because you forget I’m divorced with a child. The kind of men I like do like me and are attracted to me, but they don’t want anything to do with my circumstances. I can’t handle being someone’s weekend prostitute to be ditched in a week’s time, so that means celibacy.
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I’m 38, I have a $100K salary, I’ve dated professional athletes, actors and a porn star ;). But I just don’t know why, now that I’ve had my fun why I can’t find a man worthy of me!
/sarcasm
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When you say “date”, how many of those guys introduced you to his parents?
Exactly.
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I make over 200k – it doesn’t matter, get over yourself.
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New to Red Pill and Game.
I am a little puzzled on what I am supposed to do here.
1. Am I supposed to be Alpha, and enjoy myself, knowing that I am ruining women for my Beta bothers?
2. Am I supposed to be Alpha, find a good woman, run Althol Kay style MAP on her, and encourage my Beta brothers to put their foot down?
3. IF I cannot achieve #1 or #2, am I supposed to be Alpha and celebate?
4. If I cannot be an Alpha, am I supposed to be a Beta and then get the best girl off the C.C. can find and reform her?
5. Failing the above, am I supposed to be Beta and then just reject women and spread the word?
I’m a man. I want to *do* something, even if all that amounts to is being Smug, Aloof, and ultimately indifferent to the socially awkward attention whore penguins I encounter?
Please advise. Just point me in a general direction and I’ll machete my way way to daylight and salvation.
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Be true to yourself and you will never fall.
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Your question begs an answer, certainly. However, you will find that this place largely falls into a Venn Diagram with three parts: 1) PUAs, 2) TradCons, & 3) Losers. As would be expected, there is significant overlap with many posters. My advice would be to stop thinking about others and start thinking about yourself. No, this is not an all-encompassing life-strategy. However, you are clearly erring too much on the side of sensitivity toward others and it is (naturally) negatively impacting your life. Ergo, STOP, at least for the time being. Start thinking about what you want and fuck everyone else. Presumably, what you want is to fuck more chicks. OK, great. But, you aren’t going to see the self-improvement you want if you’re constantly second-guessing yourself, wondering about the impact that every one your decisions will have on others. So, in short, I don’t find the proper answer in any of your proposed responses. Rather, I suggest the following: be Alpha (or eschew the terminology and just act “the part”), enjoy yourself, and don’t worry about anyone else.
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@MMA I feel your pain. Morality requires reciprocity. We are subjects not citizens more and more. Betas power the machine that rapes you. Liberated women will seek out their ruin with or without you. Are you moral with yourself? Life is not fair; life is sick. Without philosophically sound standards, we can’t get out of the immediacy of life. If you get really skilled, you could try a ltr or even marriage, but you are squatting for Bernankification and butthex and secretive pictures of evidence or something. The pics is a metaphor used by GBFM, but I never got it straight. Maybe they are cock carousel pics to blackmail women or betas, I don’t know. Anyway, the nature of women is that primitive but finely tuned for what it does. Beware. My morality is for those who can and will reciprocate. Other morality is foolish.
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“My morality is for those who can and will reciprocate.”
Exactly.
You know that whole adage about “casting pearls to swine”, MMA?
The same applies to your role in the current mating market.
The beta-provider-LTR thing would be the just and moral thing to do – if you lived in a society that reciprocated that kind of commitment. The fact of the matter is that in an age of no-fault divorce and a fembot-dominated family court, you live in a society that does precisely the opposite.
Ergo, getting married and (eventually and inevitably) feeding this corrupt system is no longer a moral choice but an extremely immoral move – a grave misdeed in the form of compliance with (and tacit support of) a fundamentally corrupt system. In other words, its like a North Korean man in 1959 deciding to stay and support his country, despite the atrocities he has seen thus far, in hopes that one day Kim Il Sung (and/or his successors) will one day have a change of heart and start improving things.
Option number one on your list may be ruining it for your beta bretheren (much like defecting to the South Korean army made life a lot tougher for those who stayed up North), but it is the only way to bring down the corrupt system. Moreover, keep in mind that you aren’t the one ruining the young lasses you encounter. That is something done by the politico-educational-media establishment, and entirely beyond your control right now.
If you really want to do the right thing, you had better learn to deal with the situation at hand. Learn the ways of the Chateau, push the corrupt system to collapse, and have great fun in the process.
It’s either Alpha, or extinction. Your move.
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Brilliant Response
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“Am I supposed to be Alpha, and enjoy myself, knowing that I am ruining women for my Beta bothers?”
Most of these guys would sell you down the river for a woman so they’re not your brothers.
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Right on. The last time I tried to help a beta learn game, I gave him some lessons and then let him see me meet a 9 and get her phone number. Then I said goodnight to him. He then approached her with the “game tactic” of letting her know that I was a manipulative player and then he tried to sell himself as the opposite.
She called me the next day to let me know what he had said and I was dumbfounded to learn just how fucking treacherous beta males could be.
He spent $40 buying her and her friends drinks so he could put me down by dredging up everything I’d said about game (manipulation to him).
Beta boys are not your brothers. Take as many girls away from them as possible or at least get there first. They don’t deserve otherwise.
They’d be the first to betray an alpha if they thought it could get them laid. That’s why so many of them are male feminists, Democrats or Church Deacons.
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what makes you say that
i’ve given up more than one chick instead of taking them from husbands
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i fuck ho’s mostly so i don’t have to hurt regular bitches feelings and shit
cause the girlfriend i had after iraq was good to me but i wasen’t gonna stay with her so ya she caught feelings and yea it was dificult when i got on the plane and left
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You’re an exception. Most guys are so starved for it that they’ll fuck their friends over if they had the chance. They’ll quit the friendship if the girl gave them an ultimatum about it.
Several years ago one of my friends trained some guy in on electronics repair. They were new friends but they clicked. He got a girlfriend and she didn’t approve of him having single friends. Long story short, she forced him to cut ties with him and he was OK with that. In the end, my friend’s still where he was. The girl needed a place to stay while she worked on her online degree. She got it and she dumped him. Total leech to say the least.
We all would love to get even with people like this but no matter how hard you can hit this guy, a woman used him for two years and just left like it was a first date. Lived for free knowing full well when a better deal came along she’d be gone.
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Relax,
The buffet of the manosphere has dishes that are an acquired taste. Keep coming back and you will cultivate your palate and it will become more sophisticated.
And it is an ever evolving menu of offerings. So get a try, push it down the line, and keep trying different dishes.
And tomorrow we’ll have new things to offer you.
Just be sure of one good thing right now…..
You’re here.
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http://www.amazon.com/Bundy-Murders-Comprehensive-History/dp/0786444266/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1363212027&sr=1-2&keywords=ted+bundy
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Hmmm… lets see now…. we got a book about a white serial killer and its got a black hand holding an ice pick with blood splattered all over the cover?
I don’t know who’s ass to kick on this one.
(((shakin my head)))
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the worste thing you can do to a woman is have her in love with you and cheat on her behind her back and have her find out
other than that have fun
and keeping certain morals is what keeps you out of jail so yea those help too he he he
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Do whatever the fuck you want. The main point about the red pill is that since society has conspired to fuck you over, you owe this society nothing. When they tear up the social contract on their end, you can tear it up on yours.
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Although personally, I take the approach of trying to change society to make it better for myself. Which basically means a society without no-fault divorce, alimony (unless the man is at fault), child support (unless voluntarily agreed to by the man), feminist affirmative action and feminist lies in the media and academia and government.
But the reason for this is doing whatever the fuck I want means trying to live in the sort of society I want.
We live in a world created by our own actions.
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the problem with the alimony thin is the man will always be at fauly in the womans eyes so uhh yea
either we equal or not
i thing we actually are more than not
irregardless of the chicks that want to quit working and chill at home because they can live off a man
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Yup, can’t work when you got a real trial (with a jury) because that jury will contain women who will assign fault to the man no matter what.
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It entirely depends on you.
What are you looking for? If it is a life partner, play the game at the supermarket, library, mall, etc…
If you want to get laid, go to clubs.
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If you’re new to Game,you can’t possibly figure out what to do yet. Keep reading various Manosphere blogs and you’ll figure it out. Chateau Heartiste is the gateway drug. Branch out.
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These women! Earlier this week, we had the 20 something feminist crowd bemoaning that it’s a betrayal of their ideals to have relationships in their 20’s instead of pursuing a “career”.
so, that’s what feminism is, a chastity program geared at punishing women in their sexual peak. Like nuns for corporations.
Men at least know better, they get careers so they can get women. They won’t feel guilty about dating. We don’t work hard to get careers to never get laid which is the feminist model (because you’re undateable by the time you achieve your career, unless the goal is to be 35 and marry a 50 year old). Although the alpha fux, beta bux problem is worsened by marriage 2.0 which will financially rape ya.
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A very rich alpha 50 year old will not touch anyone over 30 so that strategy wouldn’t work for those careerist women either.
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“like nuns at corporations.” brilliant.
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The Chicks dig jerks doctrine – while chicks dig dominance, independence, and social competence, could it be that the careerist shrikes like this one are more driven by a social and environmental cause: they hate responsibility and accountability to natural reality. It’s not that the badboys give them tingles and the good guys don’t. Good guys are just as capable of giving them tingles (if attractive and confident). Rather, it’s the responsibility of a relationship that they abhor. With a good guy in a relationship, they are forced to confront reality about themselves as women. With casual sex hookups with bad boys, there is no emotional connection, no relationship, and no accountability.
While I don’t disagree with the general premise of the doctrine, I think a good deal of this phenomenon could be due to social factors. Girls want to flit about as long as they can with no sense of responsibility and no accountability to reality. Meaningful emotional relationships require both parties to be held responsible, and feminist delusions will not last long in such an environment.
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Calling her a reptile is apt, as she looks like one of the lizard people from that old tv show, “V”.
Lizard or not, I’d do her some ass to mouth.
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Hey CH and other fellas, there is something I was meaning to ask for a while.
Do you think it is possible for there to be a type of girl who can truly love a hard beta? Or even build him up to become less of a weak man?
My cousin, 32, typical carousel rider, is now engaged to a very wonderful guy- fits all the qualifications- great job, handsome, very nice, loyal- but BETA as fuck.
Although she “had her fun” she is still a somewhat traditional girl. She gives him “his place”- is submissive to him, and most importantly, builds him up instead of tearing him down. So she has become, in action, more beta than him- and has actually really helped him to become more of a leader and a confident man.
For example, if he says something clever, she will very actively praise him, or she will prompt him to make decisions…..in your opinion, is this for show? Could it be cultural? Could it be her being smart about her options?
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I fear your phrase “BETA as fuck” answers your question.–
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Yes, plenty of girls that’ll marry and love a man like that. Maybe it won’t be lustful, panty wetting, fuck in public, swallow my cum kind of love but love nonetheless.
Who’s getting the raw deal is the guy, he’s blissful that he gets pussy on a regular basis but just doesn’t realize that she’s a cock rider looking for the slow and steady mule now.. to carry her shit
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I see that side of it, for sure, but I also see the fact that he could have very easily ended up with a ball buster bitch career cunt who just used his sensitive disposition to drive his ego to the ground. So, it may be a relative raw deal in terms of her partner count, but it is a relative good deal compared to what he could be getting (as a beta).
I think, despite her mistakes, it is the mark of a good woman that can build up the man behind the betaness, and help him increase his confidence.
I would find it sad if in a marraige a man is expected to be so alpha all the time. Accepting each other is also about accepting the other person’s vulnerabilities. I would not like it if my husband felt he could not be vulnerable around me because it would decrease my attraction for him. I love him as he is (fucking perfect).
@Sidewinder, I think she’s being smart too. I don’t think its the same type of guy she’d have gone for in her early 20s (in fact, I know she didn’t), but it’s better than coming to this realization once the last egg has left the building.
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Or he could have ended up with a woman who isn’t desouled and naturally respects him and lusts after him as the best lover she’s ever had because she gave that gift to him. This is what MOST Betas got for quite a long time before Feminism came about.
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Feminism didn’t just “come about” any more than the Great Depression did. Guys invited both, by refusing to do their duty and stand up to the evil that is Progressivism. Preferring to bend over and grab ankles instead, as long as the man on the radio and in the paper, and later on TV, promised them it would feel good.
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I think she’s being smart. Women need to realize that men are not being reinforced by society to act like men. So your sister’s acts of building up his alpha characteristics is a very good sign.
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tell the “wonderful guy” to come read this blog.
see if he feels the same way about your cousin afterwards….
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She’s my cousin, bro- and she did well for herself. Sistas before mistahs.
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Men would be wise to read Flavia’s comments closely.
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I was referring to family. I’ve recommended this blog to plenty of guys!
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I’m sure you have. You’re an interesting poster. My impression is that you’re *intensely female* without being particularly *feminine.*
That’s no insult; it’s just what I take from your posts.
I wonder what *really* brought you here. You seem like a convert to a religion — you have that very specific sort of intensity and disciplined, almost willful conviction.–
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I agree with n/a about you not being feminine and sweet (as defined here at CH). Most calibrated men here will pick up the vibe in your comments as opposed to a “sweeter personality vibe from,say,Kate(nonwisthnding I rated her a 4). It’s either your nature, or the femcunt american system has nurtured you to become that way so you may be partly excused.since you visit here often, make it a point to leave this site having learned something(ie become sweeter).
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There’s nothing wrong with a woman having strong opinions. Flavia is respectful of people who disagree with her, and seems to listen to other viewpoints. That’s more important than just some general sweetness. It probably does take a strong man to handle her, though, I get the impression she wouldn’t do well with a weak one.
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Also, Flavia is married and acts as a respectable married woman should. I would wager she is here because she enjoys the intellectual conversation. She is not in a position to be the world’s sweetheart. Her heart and energy belong to her husband and that is exactly as it should be. Its admirable to see.
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Yeah, none taken. I’m pretty excitable so that’s probably what you’re picking up- my emotions are generally positive though, so I don’t mind being run by them. It’s fun.
I am here because I have an obscene amount of free time and like to talk to people, and considering the subjects I enjoy discussing, it is best to do so in an anonymous setting. I’ve been posting forever though, so not a new convert.
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My last reply was to @n/a btw.
@Lara- I don’t like weak men. I don’t want to be with someone I pity. However, I am very naturally submissive if I respect the person. I think you may be similar, no?
@Kate That’s super sweet, thanks.
@DJ LOL Thanks for the life lesson.
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@Flavia,
I know you’ve been here forever. And I chuckled to see the sistahs lining up to defend their own — it’s always esp. good to see *Lara* get feisty. She’s such an excellent insulter 😉
But *you* knew, at least, that I wasn’t attacking you in any way. What’s interesting to me is that you seem to be a woman who requires a pretty tight leash on herself — that’s what I meant about the disciplined intensity of the convert.
I worry that you could play just as easily, and just as hard, for the other side; but I’m glad such a smart cookie is on our team. For now.–
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Flavia,
Hopefully you’ll see this. I didn’t mean to imply you are difficult, I don’t get that impression. I meant that you wouldn’t respect a wimpy man, like all women. Being an attractive woman, you probably wouldn’t be interested in one in the first place.
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@Lara.. Noooo, I didn’t get that impression at all! I totally agree w/ u.
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Indeed. She serves Team Woman and the almighty Hamster before any man’s interest.
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LOL I don’t know why this comment cracked me up. You’re totally right.
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she is the reason why if your wife doesn’t work ya need to come up with a business to keep her occupied and have a to do list for her if she doesn’t come up with productive things he he he
only men should be allowed to waste their days on here
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@guns, I work full time.
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i’d hate to go back through the comments but allright still not going to
somewhere in my brain is something about you not working
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If you want to live in a society where men pursue LTR’s it should be LTR’ers before everyone else.
Allowing bad women to fuck over good men (Sistas before mistahs) will create a society of no good men for (presumably) good women like yourself. Is that what you want?
(Although I could understand the adage of family before strangers.)
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That’s what I meant, Jesus Christ, everyone get their panties out of a bunch. English es mi second language ; _ ;
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Flavia’s husband must have the final verdict, and we could count on his honesty if he were in his sick bed and about to depart to Heaven.A sweeter personality is a sweeter personality and is not partner specific Kate. In-fact I was thinking of bumping your rating to 5 Kate, but I have changed my mind for your particular response to my call on Flavia (phony as it may be, aka you are secretly enjoying the compliment). Oh and Lara, I will be monitoring your comments to pick up on your personality too. One sentence that contains “cunt” and I will begin to have an idea.
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Damn, djmickey putting hoes on alert.
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That guy is her last chance for a family, of course she is on her best behavior. Her attitude will degrade rapidly after the wedding, and after she has her babies a clever girl like her will methodically eviscerate the beta in court. She probably has the date picked out when she will serve him.
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I think the attitude is a bit skewed here, a lot of dudes been burned. We will see, I suppose.
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I’m with Wilson. You can practically smell it coming………
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If a woman helps build a guy up into one she can admire, she is sitting pretty. The trouble would come in if he didn’t meet her expectations.
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Yeah. Or if he “regressed” once married. Maybe he is trying to please her as well. Women aren’t the only ones that get complacent in marriage.
I don’t know how this came into my head but now I am now wondering how relationships were the dude is the “sub” and the woman is the “dom” work. Isn’t she disgusted? I guess people into fetishes are pretty ugly though, so maybe neither has a choice.
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It is the nature of a woman to attempt to dominate her man. It is also the nature of a woman that should she succeed in dominating her man the tendrils of cold contempt for him will creep over and seize her heart. A vague but gnawing sense of dissatisfaction will infect their relationship but she won’t know why.
I know a law firm partner who, in her youth, had affair after affair with older, married men alphas in a serial fashion. She eventually settled for a very handsome young man with third rate career and popped out a few kids. She doesn’t respect him. He’s just a cog in her life plan.
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No, not all fetishists are ugly.
A recurring theme with dominant women is the desire to stop the submissive man from experiencing sexual pleasure, while they sleep with other men. Yes, the dominant women are disgusted, and the various fetishes allow them to express that disgust.
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I stand by that fetishist are unattractive. So are swingers. Anything peripheral like that is going to have people that don’t fit the status quo = ugly (but maybe pretty in the context of that subgroup).
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What Wilson said. They’re not married yet, so she’s still on her best behavior. This probably won’t hold true in five or six years. Giving him Athol Kay’s book for a wedding present might help…
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“She gives him “his place”- is submissive to him, and most importantly, builds him up instead of tearing him down. So she has become, in action, more beta than him- and has actually really helped him to become more of a leader and a confident man.
For example, if he says something clever, she will very actively praise him, or she will prompt him to make decisions…..in your opinion,”
You don’t see the inherent problem here? He is still supplicating to HER frame. SHE is telling him to make a decision. HER praise is the doggie treat he gets when he’s a good boy.
Eventually, this will RUIN everything.
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Yes, but she is rewarding behavior that is helping him become a more dominant man and a leader for his (potentially future) family, so what’s so bad with fitting to her frame, if it’s a good one?
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Supplicating to her frame is the ultimate tingle-kill. Allowing her frame to run the relationship in any way will ruin it.
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This was me in my twenties. And the answer to your question “is it possible” for her to love a hard Beta is yes.
And then when she falls out of love, or decided he’s not exciting enough, the fallout will begin. He’d better hope he has a good prenup and there are no kids to get damaged along the way.
Women who are with guy after guy lose the ability to pair-bond, because they lose the receptors that create oxytocin, the bonding chemical. Not only are these women bad bets for marriage, but they’ll also leave kids behind when Mr. Dreamy comes along. Ever wonder why that NYC housewife traipsed off to Turkey? Now you know.
I wish your cousin luck. And, yes, I think she’s being wise about her options. We’ll see what happens after the wedding.
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I told the very same thing about pair bonding to my younger sisters and I hope they believe me. I can’t imagine women robbing themselves of that beautiful feeling.
Also, oxy is the same hormone released during breastfeeding, that allows you to bond with your child, so you might even be able to make the argument that promiscuity also doesn’t allow you to bond with your own children!!
I wonder if there is a study out somewhere that shows a correlation between female age when marrying and divorce rates.
That’s why I also never liked emotionally promiscuous men…I think they have the same pair bonding problems as physically promiscuous women.
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i like what ya did there
“emotionally promiscous men”
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Flavia, have a look over here with regards to female age/divorce rates (I hope it’s ok to cross-post here?)
http://dalrock.wordpress.com/2011/08/26/why-a-womans-age-at-time-of-marriage-matters-and-what-this-tells-us-about-the-apex-fallacy/
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Thanks! Interesting, I thought it would be different- that women who married older were more likely to divorce.
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In addition to not bonding as well, a woman who marries later might not have enough history with her husband to stay loyal through the ups and downs. I do know of some women, who married older, and are good wives. In these cases, she is the man’s second wife, and I think he chose more wisely.
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There is no wisdom in making the same mistake twice.
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The most fervent white knights on the planet are in “the Lifestyle”. i could have had a long and happy life without knowing that my WOW-playing, midnight LARPing, 5’5″/135 pound roommate in Afghanistan liked to wear leather and order his (considerably fitter) wife to fuck herself in the ass with dildoes for the edification of (non-american) troops. Fucking Germans…
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The problem is that men, almost all men, *are* “wind-up toys” hungry to do the bidding of women; and it’s these men, the great mass of beta white males in particular, who have allowed the cancer of feminism, and who are failing to cut it out.
And now that tumor seems to block the sun.
It is tragedy that beta white males should’ve come to this despicable pass, because they were the men almost entirely responsible for our technological civilization.
Wake up, white men, and hack out the cancer of feminism.–
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Some of these men really do need a lot of help. I am in the process of explaining to one why I don’t want to continue getting to know him. Its very uncomfortable, but I’ve figured out some key wording that seems to defuse their frustration. Its very unpleasant to be on the receiving end of behavior I know I’ve exhibited. Ugh.
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The thing is….at what point do these beta men create their own fate? Isn’t it analogous to the slut who gives it up for *free* on a first ‘date’ and wonders why no man ever respects her….yet she does it over and over? Some low betas are similar in that they shape their own fate.
***WARNING: LONG RANT AHEAD***!!!!!
Case in point 1: dating 3 guys and things just became serious with I (the rich, christian and country single dad in his mid thirties…had the exclusivity talk over the weekend). Below is a recap of me breaking it to the other two guys;
Guy 1:…told him politely via text things got serious with another guy and I don’t feel it’s right to continue dating. He replies with an initial “b*tch”, sends a “sorry, did not mean that” text 30 mins later and a “please reply, say something” 45 mins later….then starts calling me repeatedly. Today he sent a “Good morning, I am in your area, I want to talk, we can’t let it end like this” (I have only been on 3 dates with him, one kiss, no sex). His last message to me this evening was “Fine, I hope you rot in hell” ARRGHH…..I am so irritated/repulsed….but how else is one suppose to react to this repulsing display of beta/omega-ness? or is he just a crazy twit? or is it my fault somehow?
Guy 2: (Engineer Guy) told him exactly the same thing….low alpha (discounted for age, mid twenties). All he sends is a “Stay classy kiddo”.
Case in Point 2: Ex-fiance of a year, sends me this long email saying he wants me back two months ago. Beta and an awesome being and I loved him as a person, but will never go back to him. I politely list the reasons in a reply email why we won’t work out long term. What does he do on Valentines day (two weeks after my polite email ‘letting him down’)? He sends me two dozen roses! I send a curt “thanks” and he replies with smiley faces.
Yesterday, he sends me an email (I told him not to text/call so he uses email) asking me if I still wanted him to drive me to some place (long story but we had discussed 7 months back about him driving me somewhere)…so now I am getting irritated and feeling some sort of contempt I never harbored towards him due to his failure to ‘get the hint’. I wanted to be cordial and even friends (sigh, I know) but now I have no other choice but to cut him off completely even though I still like him and it makes me really mad/sad that we won’t be friends anymore.
So ya…I think some betas almost provoke some women to the point of disdain/contempt/repulsion. Sorry guise, I needed to rant! :@:@
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let the ex fiance know how repulsed you are by him that should help him out
do him that favor
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(long story but we had discussed 7 months back about him driving me somewhere)…”””””””’
you kept him around as a person who you could rely on to be there if you needed anything
so yea let him now know that now that you are in more of a position where you think you won’t need someone to be there like that cause you got it covered now that you feel like why are you wasting that effort to be nice to someone you don’t see any further need for
yea let him know the real deal please
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I was actually the one who helped him out financially and emotionally when things ended. I drive and have my own car, but the place I needed to go, you have to drive through a shaky bridge and I have a phobia, so I am always too scared to drive over that bridge. I have one of my girls taking me now. I never stayed in touch out of need, well maybe emotional need…I admit, he is one of the few people I trust outside family, so there’s that. I will just cut off contact completely…at this point…there’s no other way.
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naa don’t just cut of contact let him know about the revulsion
that will help him in his future life perchance
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Cut it directly. Tell him to go away. leave no uncertainty.
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…I admit, he is one of the few people I trust outside family, so there’s that.”””””””””””
let him know about asian woman it will be easier for him to find a woman that is more like him and will apprecate him rather than trying to find the needle in the haystack in the states
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I agree in theory, but I wonder if he would actually listen.
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You are way too nice. Let all them know in no uncertain terms. Don’t hold back.
Males get it if you tell them straight up. Don’t worry about damaging their egos, just let them know in no uncertain terms. they will be fine.
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Guy #2 is the only one who took the rejection like a man. My guess is you’ll miss him someday.
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Exactly! and I remember him in a fuzzy feelings positive light. It was really a toss up btw him and single dad but the chemistry with single dad is crazy and b) single dad is richer and older
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My go to response with any female excuse is not to reply back at all and never communicate again. There is no point.
But I will give a “thanks” to the honest girls who tell me that they have no feelings because they at least respect me. Be honest with guys about where you stand with no room for doubt. Say that you have no feelings and you wish them well on future endeavors.
If they want to whine about it…they are a failure as a man and probably need to be checked for ovaries.
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@Olive,
It’s unbelievable that your beaux have no idea how to treat a *naughty shorty* like yourself.
Are they that dumb?
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Stay Classy Kiddo man was good
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Olive: suddenly I can reply again! My responses to you are down toward the bottom of the page 🙂
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Chances are…., if you’re dating 3 guys simultaneously, you’re not exactly the kind of gal in a position to pick from the top drawer to begin with. Those poor sods…….
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Even though men might not like it, it is a good strategy for women to circular date. Men prefer to “win” a popular woman away from other men. Unless this happens naturally in a social circle, the only way is to date a couple people. This reduces pressure women might put on a man they are dating linearly. Consequently, men are more likely to be the ones leading exclusivity. Everybody wins.
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It doesn’t require her dating a ton of men at the same time, that would be kind of a red flag to any smart guy. You can already tell that other man want her by her looks.
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Not a ton, no. I think three is the upper limit, for sure. I’m a circle flirt, but haven’t progressed to true circle dating. I can hardly find one person I’m interested in, much less three. If I really like someone, I don’t see any need to keep looking around. But, if the guy you like gets distracted by something shiny, then you’re left going “huh” instead of not being too bothered because you have someone else to go out with, and you haven’t gotten attached too soon.
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@ Kate, everything you said pretty much
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Yea, I normally date 2-3 stable, and by date I mean going out 3+ times formally….without sex. The guy who I am committed to now, is pretty top notch….mega bucks with country non-pretentious appeal only con right now is he has a kid….never really dated a single father before. Not used to be priority #2 in a relationship but I totally understand that his child will be his top-most priority as it should be and actually something I think I find attractive. It is just wierd not being someone’s numero uno 😦
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Just think of it this way: its better than him having another woman 😉 Single parents don’t have a lot of time to get into trouble.
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whats the nanny look like?
and the housekeeper?
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@ Kate, lol yes that would be an upside! 🙂
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Kate. Just tell him to go away, in straight up terms. leave no doubt to the termination of contact. Be brutal if you have to.
Males understand direct and absolute.
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Thanks for the advice. I don’t do brutal. I’d probably be a lot happier if I did.
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Point him to this blog and his failures will become self evident.
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Now that’s the ducking truth
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In related news, a woman CFO regrets forgetting to have children. Along with CH’s tweets on NPR’s fertility ads, is the Cathedral recallibrating on the great white snuffout?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2291316/Former-Lehman-Brothers-CFO-Erin-Callan-regrets-putting-career-ahead-hopes-mother.html
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pa did you get divorced dude i was reading a site said pa did wondering if you?
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Nope, not divorced
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cool
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Of course, this post is distilled wisdom that CH extols best, but I must challenge this too common assertion: “The crosstabbed and powerpointed nth wave modern feminist woman will realize…”
These are women: they will NOT realize. They must evolve and be pruned not lightly for 100,000 years in civilization to have a chance at dismantling the hamster. Game taught me to lead myself in social interactions and not fear the spotlight, to even value it as a gatekeeper to success in the who-you-know zeitgeist of oligarchic decline that always happens. It is lonely at the top, but be the man and don’t expect a woman to understand. She is a spineless opportunist to be guided without heart to heart communication that means anything in real life beyond appeasing her hamster and keeping her on her man’s program, all happy and constructive without her having a clue as to why.
We cannot have ‘mental revenge’ with the too-stupid-to-understand. We can only triumph or not. Do not be emotionally invested in a worthless hope. We had men’s clubs precisely to be understood and to have shared realization. Women are not good for what men are good for. Realization is for men. You know it logically, so know it emotionally. Conviction of inner game will matter if a triumph of Western freedom is to return. A she is NOT a man, amazing jawline notwithstanding.
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This is strength.
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Words to live by.
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“We cannot have ‘mental revenge’ with the too-stupid-to-understand.”
But we can have emotional revenge…that’s what they do understand.
My revenge…I’m genuinely happy independent of women, or put another way…I recall the best parts of my day as the actions I took in a particular setting. A woman living a life of debauchery will never have the emotion of happiness…unless she reflects mine. Most of the time…I see an inner anger that I have something she desperately wants.
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Sweet Orgazmo reference, CH!
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” as Western men have become feminized and neutered of their ability to project dominance”
I think the opposite it true. Western men who are interested in dominance project a lot more of it than all non western men. Non western men have it handed to them, so they don’t work on projecting it. Hence, their presence is less attractive. This is hard to see usually because non-western vs western implies a race difference overall, which could be the cause of the difference in presence. Still, my observation is that Americanized men are some of the most dominant in social presence. A lot of them have some element of cowboy swagger to them. Unfortunately, American women tend to possess the same.
Also, alphas are not that hard to pin down. You just have to be willing to put up with them. It’s the putting up with them that’s harder than the enticing their commitment.
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“Western men WHO ARE INTERESTED in dominance…” (emphasis added)
That was the point of the original reference you quoted, I believe.
“Western men” have by and large been stripped of the desire to be providers, hence the term feminized.
Traditional gender roles have been usurped and perverted, to the point where men really have no motivation to BE MEN any longer.
A woman takes the job of the man she wants to marry, but refuses to date him because he doesn’t have a job……. wheels on the bus go round ‘n round….
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I must quibble with the word DESIRE. Western men have been stripped of the MEANS to be providers. We give up wisely or give out subserviently. Dominance is a prerequisite to being a stable provider, and having quality women worthy of ltr. Quantity is a substitute for quality with diminishing marginal returns: http://apecon1.wikispaces.com/Law+of+Diminishing+Returns Roosh has lately hit the wall of declining returns: http://www.rooshv.com/how-many-notches-is-enough
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Doug, when the means are removed, desire soon perishes thereafter. We are seeing, and saying, the same things.
Conjure the image of the manchild spending his waking hours in front of a big screen playing Call of Duty… (and the woman complaining how useless he is, while putting on her suit, before heading out to the office….)
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Yes, slapshot, we are saying the same thing, and I agree with you. It may be that actual desire is killed, but motivation is killed first. I am not motivated under the circumstances to be a provider, hooray, but I still desire to be a productive citizen and a philosopher-king of my own castle. I don’t want us to entertain carte blanch that our manly desire is killed, or why even be the Manosphere? I think we are evolving, the path before us is political, and we have aspirations that are or will be outside of the political box and the HB slut boxes.
Basically, I am just saying the civilized patriarchal passion inside me is not dead yet, even if I have no avenue to embody it or to express it constructively. Keeping those embers aflame with our evolving subcultural wisdom to navigate these dark times is something I want to promote as an aside to what you said. We are practical opportunists with aspirations. Sexual conquest is a political statement and ordering, and we are fighting back with passion righteous in purpose and potential. At least I like to think so.
“We’re not defeated. No__! Dream another dream…”
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Your avatar keeps looking better and better. You are such a feminist.
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Dude. Your butt is awesome! Do you do squats?
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I lift about 75 lbs with the hamstring curl machine (set of 18-15-12). Then I do yoga. I also do lunges with weights. I think the lunges help the most.
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Thanks! I do Vinyasa yoga every other day and I lift a lot in hamstring curls. I rely on lunges more than squats. I carry about 20-25 lbs of weight when I do lunges.
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I am not “hating’ because it is a very nice bum, but can I ask why you choose such a pic as your avatar? are you trying to be ‘ironic’? it is kind of in poor taste bra.. :S
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Because thwak asked me to post my backside as an avatar and then CH concurred. I complied out of politeness to my host, who provides me with so much candy for my mind.
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@femx…lolx fair enough
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lol that was not a compliment
flav is evil
that is a compliment
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I think the opposite it true. Western men who are interested in dominance project a lot more of it than all non western men. Non western men have it handed to them, so they don’t work on projecting it. Hence, their presence is less attractive.
I would tend to agree, at least for most nationalities except for a few that seem to naturally be alpha.
If you’re, say, a British man and have to deal with fugly British women all the time, and then run up against a sweet-natured Polish girl and run game on her, it would be like cracking a pistachio with a sledgehammer.
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You can definitely pick out an American man walking around in Europe.
You can also drill down into different groups of American men to find the dominance there. My wife was in San Antonio last week and texted me to ask me how to tell soldiers apart from Marines based on their uniforms. I told her how to do it and she told me she already knew who was a soldier. She told me that the soldiers, unlike Marines , did not walk around like they owned the place.
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You can definitely pick out an American man walking around in Europe.
Highly alpha, or highly beta? It may depend upon if he’s desperately looking for a wife, or just wanting to have fun.
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More than likely, it is the brightly colored clothing that makes you stand out. I know this was true when I was on assignment in Ireland. No one there wore light colored shoes at all. Except my fellow ex-patriots.
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It isn’t the clothes, it’s the body language.
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If that is really your butt is it damn nice.
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Ask and ye shall receive. I like the pic, fem.
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It is very rude to post an ass that does not belong to you.
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One good thing, the comments are mostly anti-feminist. Cheryl Sandberg annoys me to no end. Tell me again why a man should want to marry her?
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Any man who would WANT to marry a women such as her, is insane. Or worse, fatally ignorant.
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Or blind.
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I’d do it for a year or two to collect on alimony.
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Her lawyers would bury you.
You also assume that the Divorce Industrial Complex will deal with you fairly. Which means you have not dealt with the Divorce Industrial Complex.
Not worth it in any way.
∞
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You are right. I have not dealt with the Divorce Industrial Complex. And I never intend to.
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Smart man.
∞
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Money?
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> Tell me again why a man should want to marry her?
Ask her husband.
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“Her family moved to North Miami Beach, Florida when she was two years old. She attended public school, where she was ‘always at the top of her class.’ Sandberg taught aerobics in the 1980s while in high school.She is Jewish.”
Sure enough.
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Reinhard: Did you really need to look that up?
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Too bad you got wasted in Prague because you were too arrogant to take antibiotics. You did succeed in killing a lot of civilians. Are you proud of that accomplishment now that you have some years to reflect?
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“I say in the book, date the bad boys, date the crazy boys, but do not marry them. Marry the boys who are going to change half of the diapers.”
That reminds me of when I say to women… “You’re the type of chick to fuck and chase artists but marry a doctor”
It’s funny but these women will wait around forever for that ring from a BadBoy… And if they don’t, they’ll marry the nice guy and sure enough she’ll be spreading her divine legs for the crazy boys soon enough.
About a year ago, I was in Miami and met a chick at the pool in my hotel who was married the day before… We got to talking and within about an hour we were fooling around under the patio deck. I kept thinking to myself… WOW! it didn’t take her long, now did it???
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Nothing like a case of bacterial vaginosis caused by foreign member insertion on a honeymoon to stir up suspicion in that fresh beta cake! #winning! lol
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Funny you used artists as an example. I never got the appeal. Too sensitive and emotionally promiscuous.
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Yeah… I tried using the word badboy a few times and they kept asking me what I thought a bad boy was!!! And figured since I was an artist it would be extra cocky and get her into the she’s chasing me frame if I just used that!
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A family friend relayed a hilarious variation on this theme from his sister-in-law’s life. His sister-in-law, a socially climbing attorney, spent her twenties and early thirties dating sensitive, emotionally available starving artist types, guys who had cultivated real personalities of their own and showed little interest in material things. Then, in her mid-thirties, she did an about-face and took up with a building contractor who was handsome and well-to-do but exceptionally vapid and rather dumb. Her clock was ticking and she had decided that it was time to get knocked up.
So urgently did she need to get pregnant that she lied to one of her gynecologists, telling him that she had been trying to get pregnant for six months when in fact she had gone off the pill two weeks previously. In another SWPL flourish, the main reason she had gone on the pill was that she and her husband (who live in Philadelphia) had honeymooned in South Africa, and another physician had advised her not to get pregnant while on antimalarial medications prescribed for the duration of the trip. This crazy bitch made her husband go through sperm motility tests when he didn’t get her pregnant straightaway the first month, and she threatened to sue at least one gynecologist if her kid did poorly on college or graduate school entrance exams. In the end, they conceived within a few months, which they probably could have done the old-fashioned way easily enough.
Her husband is a dipshit in his own right. When he was driving her Focus, he deliberately feathered the clutch at uphill stoplights in the hopes of wrecking the transmission so that she’d be forced to buy a newer, fancier car more befitting their status. They deserve each other.
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That Miami newlywed story is like what just happened to me.
Yesterday I noticed that a girl I’d been dating and starting to get sexual with had posted that she was engaged to some herbling as her status.
This hit me like a punch in the gut. I was about to send her a text asking her to introduce me to one of her hot friends at least.
But then as I moped about this to another hot teen who was at my place to hang out, she smiled and said “Let me show you something”.
She then went to the computer and showed me her status. It said she was engaged to a herbling her own age as well.
She laughed (as she took her clothes off) and said that women do this in order to make the herbling less jealous of her comings and goings and it makes them check their women’s phones for texts less often.
Betas think they’re safe when their women put “Engaged” as their status.
They surely think they’re safe when the women marry them.
No such luck.
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One of mine would leave her engagement ring on while she blew me and make sure to capture it in the dirty pics she’d send. 3 months salary well spent for her guy, hey lol
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HAHAHAHAHA… Love it! “…It makes the(herbling) them check their women’s phones for texts less often.” The SLUTS!!!
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That’s…that’s just evil. Listen, girlfriends are one thing. But newlyweds are another. You shouldn’t have done that, though I understand.
How does a woman do that the day after her marriage, honestly?
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its her fault… not his.
The evil is all on her.
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She did that with a smile on her face and her clothes off….
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@Ryan
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did you let the dude know so he could rid himself of her if he so chose
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LOL. I agree with gunslinger tho, letting the hubby schlub know afterwards would have been perfect. Would have made you an Alpha Hero, rather than an Alpha Scumbag
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Because guys have no sacks and are clueless.
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I’ve read every comment here and only one person commented this hideous thing is a Jew.
Feminism is Jewish (in many ways Jewish lesbian) and the reason Jews have been kicked out of every country in the world is because of their attempts to destroy the host culture.
So the Manosphere is a reaction to Jewish feminism. When the denizens of the Manosphere fall for this “alpha bux beta fux” nonsense they’re falling for the immorality Jews are so known for. The evil this woman is talking is for her and her degraded kind – but not for us.
Think about it.
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True.
Facebook itself is a giant YKW scam. It was stolen by Zuckerberg from the beginning. It makes its money by stealing marketable info on its users. And it is terribly corrosive on peoples social interactions.
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Alphas are adaptable and can now make facebook work for them.
For instance, instead of liking a hot photo like all her beta orbiters do, he’ll send a private message saying that she’s lost weight and getting in shape and she can come over to his place for a paleo meal after work.
You’d be surprised how the betas tend to just like photos
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I’m sure you are right. However, that doesn’t address the socially corrosive aspects of Facebook. Any corruptive system can be gamed for personal advantage; that still leaves society swirling down the toilet.
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I used to be a Facebook addict before my CH days. Now, it’s starting to disgust me.
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Yeah, the entire business model of facebook is disgusting. Essentially, users are giving them their private info for free, which facebook sells to marketing companies for good money.
I think all of us would be shocked, if we knew just how much private info is kept on us by marketing scum.
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False. Stupidity kills. Feminism is Christian (Mary Wollstonecroft, Shelley, Blake) in origin and dates from the Enlightenment. Jews were persecuted far before anyone ever thought of feminism, they were and are a convenient scapegoat for dealing with things people don’t want to or cannot understand: the Black Death, Mongols, famines.
Facebook is nothing new, Friendster predated it by ten years or more, MySpace by five, neither “scaled” and both lost favor through frequent outages.
Social Media and Feminism are intrinsic to Western society itself, the desire for utopian global equality, remaking the social order, etc. There’s a reason that most Christian of Poets Blake railed against Marriage and called for sexual liberation.
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“Blah, blah, misdirection, hand-waving, irrelevant historical facts and grievances, name dropping, blah, blah, blah.”
Really, it must be the Scots-Irish to blame for it all.
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Anti Semite!!!!!! Marky Zuckerberg is the greatest technological genius of all time. His billions prove this. It can not be otherwise in the UnitedStatesofMerit. FREEDOM!!
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Zuckerberg truly is a light unto the nations!
How did we ever get by before without him?
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He’s our elder brother in teh technologies.
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Hey, anti-semetic scumbag: Neither Gloria Steinem (whose mother was Presbyterian) nor Jane Fonda is Jewish.
I’m willing to bet that you are a failure of one sort or another, and thus feel the need to blame your failings on an ethnic group that isn’t your own.
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“Steinem was born in Toledo, Ohio on March 25, 1934. Her mother, Ruth (née Nuneviller), was a Presbyterian of Scottish and German descent, and her father, Leo Steinem, was the son of Jewish immigrants from Germany and Poland.”
You are really stupid. Holy shit. I’m willing to bet that you’re a dumbfuck of one sort or another.
The list is long. Sieg Heil, fucktard.
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My favorite thing: a Khazar, who is Caucasian, calls a filthy goy “anti-semitic”, while stomping on a Palestinian, who is a Semite. USA!!
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Is that you Zukerberg? But seriously, Jews fuck shit up.
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“You must [be a loser; have a small penis; be a failure], that’s why you [are against feminism; are against multi-culturalism; speak out against jewish ethnocentrism]!!!”
lozlozlolz!
You screech like a woman.
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Feel better after your Ten Minutes Hate? That’s a good boy.
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I once lived next door to this house owned by a Fag Hag that she rented out. And there was a constant stream of same sex couples that lived there and they never lasted very long together.
And yes, there was shitload of “partner” violence.
There was always some third party stealing the “female” version of both gay or lesbian couples away from the “male” version and both types would physically fight in a way heterosexual couples never do.
Usually, the “homey” little bliss would last about 3 months, then some third “friend” would show up, then the “friend” would steal the “bitch” away from the “butch” and either the two butches would fight or the couple.
I had a porch and I would get a chair and watch the fun. There’s whole porn sites devoted to what I could watch on their in front yard of that house right from my own porch. Same sex couples have a volatility and lack of permanence and violence that makes even today’s heterosexual couple seem like the rock of stability in comparison.
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Interesting. I had heard that gay male relationships were basically a revolving door but had also heard that lesbian relationships were very stable. Did you notice the lesbian couples being less volatile?
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Yeah. Fag marriage is a joke. It has never existed in human history until like ten years ago. And nobody talks about fag divorce.
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In one of her interviews, I believe on 60 minutes, she was sitting next to her greater beta husband and proudly stated the myth that men who share the chores with their wives get more sex. Her advice to women was to get a husband that is supportive. A girl can’t do that unless she is attractive, something most career minded women are not. And even then, as this article states, their vaginas are still going to ache for the bad boy.
On another note, I don’t think she looks that bad for a careerist woman. But naturally my standards in that regard are very low.
I was glad to see heartiste address this lady because she has been in the mainstream media a lot this past week. Her lies are being spread everywhere, but that’s the mainstream for you.
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Whorefinder: what’s the word on this new Pope?
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He was apparently the runner-up in the 2005 conclave. The cardinals seem to have operated like the Republican Party: the runner-up last time gets to be the nominee this time.
(The GOP has observed this rule every single time since Nixon at least, except for 2000, when they nominated George W. Bush instead of Pat Buchanan.)
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He’s a Social-Justice minded conservative, if that makes any sense whatsoever.
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Isn’t the conservative obsession (I don’t mean it pejoratively) with social cohesion a back-door means to a sort of social justice (in that many rights liberals like are more attributable to organic social cohesion of the small “c” conservative sort than proximal government fiat)? Not all liberals are tone deaf to realist explanations of the world or conservative moral intuitions, you know.
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What “conservative obsession with social cohesion”? I could care less what you do. I am a “conservative”, if you will, tho’ I prefer “classic liberal” if we must call each other names. So… my philosophy is “stay off my lawn, and we’re cool, brah. I’ll do the same for you.”. And I find that this is common amongst people that think as I do.
When you say “conservative moral institutions”, methinks you don’t understand conservatives very well. We come in all stripes – unlike Leftists, we actually DO tolerate differing viewpoints.
What I think you MEAN is “religious institutions”, which often do not cleave to real conservative principles, as we see here with this “Social Justice Pope” (a concept I find hilarious). Some religious people/institutions are conservative, some conservative people/institutions are religious. It’s a Venn Diagram, and the overlap is nowhere near 100% of those two things.
“Conservative Latin Jesuit scholar who advocates social justice” is literally a string of words that in context mean nothing to me, prima facie. “Social Justice” is a Leftist term and is redistribution, in all cases. Jesuit can mean several things. Etc.
Justice as it pertains to The Rule of Law… THAT is a conservative principle.
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This ^
I care about a new pope for the Catholics, WHY?
Just another religious diversion as to what is really going on…
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Particularly bad for Argentina. Now they are stuck cheering for this “home team” guy, while the Junta continues to rob them blind.
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Stuki, but he’s a “man of the people”, right?
If I see another “news” story about how he prepares his own meals, carries his own bags, and takes the subway, I may decide to flay my skin off my skull. The incessant “messaging” is over-powering, even from the ostensibly “secular” US media …. YEAHOKIGETIT.
The “News” is so depressingly targeted at complete idiots.
This guy, the new Pope, is a straight-up “Social Justice” Socialist and is therefore anti-Capitalist (capitalism being the only thing that can free Latin America from its chains), and is therefore selected to appeal to the folks in Latin America that will faithfully contribute to the weekly mass. Think ¡Chavismo! for all of Latin America (yes, even the civilized parts).
This is all about competition. If you know about Argentina, that tells me you are probably Argentinian, since most Americans know “sweet fvck all” (nada) about Argentina. If you are Latin or specifically Brasilian/Argentinian, you know that the biggest competitor to the Catholic Church in Latin America is “Fundamentalist Christianity”. And so, the selection of this Pope was the biggest NON-surprise I’ve seen in a while. The Catholic Church is looking to energize their Latin base and stem the tide of those Católicos moving over to some other new form of Christianity, because, hey…. KEEP THE MONEY COMING. They think this new “humble man of the People” Pope is their ticket to maintenance of their Empire.
¡Suerte, amigos!
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Anon, I actually dug around a bit more, and it seems good people in Argentina are OK with him. The Ks tried to smear him with connections to the Dirty War Junta, but that backfired. While I’m still concerned the captive media will try using this as a feel good diversion for their (UN approved and celebrated, no doubt) atrocities, I don’t think the man himself will go out of his way to make it easy for them.
Like you hint at, across the entire Latin America, the Church is experiencing rapidly declining authority. No doubt from being completely incapable of performing their traditional calling of helping shield the flock from the worst of turmoil and cultural/moral decline. And, like many other places, notably in the US, a cadre of loosely connected “fundamentalist”, or “evangelical” churches are trying to fill the void. None of which have nearly the size nor history nor doctrinal gravitas to mount any kind of challenge to the ruling clique.
I’m still waiting for conformation that Muslim missionaries are moving in to fill the void. For all the shit they get in the West, Islam, particularly the Salafi kind, plain works for “oppressed” people. By providing a moral and legal framework largely free from control by governments. Just like the Church once did, before it decided to abandon age old doctrine, in order to appear more “hip” to the progressive trash and their exalted ideals of nation states, democracy and unlimited power to whomever happen to win some silly popularity contest.
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Stuki, interesting comment:
“None of which have nearly the size nor history nor doctrinal gravitas to mount any kind of challenge to the ruling clique.?
It seems you think that the Catholic Church is the defender of the weak and a viable competitor to the ruling oligarchy. Certainly there has been a large degree of that in the past of Latin America (with the Catholic Church “breaking ties”/”refereeing” between the Spanish and the Portuguese when they disagreed, and tempering the rape of the land that these two governments were conducting in Latin America for a very long time, etc.). I am not sure this is really the case any more, but I am quite sure most people still think this.
Given the historical power of the Catholic Church in Latin America (and using your thesis), the poor running into the arms of these fundamentalist/”evangelical” Christian institutions potentially undermines the relative political power of the poor. I had not considered that, and that sounds valid enough for me to consider seriously. This would then beg the question of who is “paving the way” for these new churches… would be interesting to see if the governments of Latin America are somehow enabling/supporting these churches as a way to achieve a concomitant drop in Catholic Church revenues and power. When one can “shut out” a competitor, it is wise to do so.
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What I note most from posts like this is how damn similar conservatives often are to liberals – the emotional tail wagging the rational dog. It is all team and in-group signaling more than any sort of coherent thought or independent interaction with complex evidence and how easily everything distills to a worldview.
Conservatives tend to have moral intuitions involving social cohesion (hence the concern with gender roles, for example, and the unintended downstream effects of upsetting balances that have genetic constants in means and STDVs).
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Cool story, bro.
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“Conservative” nowadays seems to mean “does not support fag marriage”. Big deal. Even Obama didn’t support fag marriage ten years ago.
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Forgot to say that he is every bit as traditional on his views of homosexuality as Benedict.
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The Nu Wurld Oder destroys or corrupts everything and everyone prominent as a general rule, Vatican included. This guy will want an intrinsically worthless fiat world currency just like his predecessor who still has power it would seem. It has been a while since two or three popes have contested for power, but they are not top guns these days.
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New Pope’s another communist.
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He also is very hostile to the old Latin mass. Any possible reconciliation with the SSPX, let alone other indie Catholics, is history.
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It’s easy enough to let men see what’s wrong about Sandberg, unless you have a hopelessly blue pilled specimen.
In case you are interested in rescuing some young female from this hellhole you need to get emotional.
Tell her that Sandberg is famous for not knowing the age of her own child. In her TEDtalk she says “My daughter, who is three years old…” and at the end “…my two-year old daughter…”
This is what you aspire to if you follow her advice.
Sheesh
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She’s probably fairly far out on the spectrum as well,,,,,,
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This is great n all but I love pussy way too much to resist marriage when she drops hints that she wants it…guess I’ll just have to remember that marriage a sure-fire way to have less sex not more 😦
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This is great n all but I love pussy way too much to resist marriage when she drops hints that she wants it
marry if you want kids, not if you want pussy.
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Guys, I think I need help.
Game has gotten me to the point where I don’t think women have ANY value. I feel superior to each and every one I come across. They’ve gone from being a possession that I truly desired to some kind of inanimate object that has a function, like the value of a stapler or something. I feel no accomplishment in “pulling”, and zero desire for relationships.
Of course this has helped my game, but I don’t feel anything towards them and not sure if I ever will again. Is this natural? I’m only 24 and I didn’t know game would change my view of women this much. Not sure who said it but the quote “girl game is to pretend not to notice a mans value; mens game is to recognize she has no value” really hits home with me. The realization that they truly mean nothing is just rocking my view of the world, even my view of females in my own family.
Any advice for me from those of you older and wiser is much appreciated.
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Find fulfillment elsewhere. Develop deep male friendships, learn a new skill or language, read the classics, grow a garden, write a book. There are a million ways to be productive and happy. Looking to any woman to make you feel happy and productive and useful is a sure-fire recipe for depressing disaster.
The best of women can be entertaining and easy on the eyes, but that’s about all. A woman is either a luxury to be enjoyed, or a child-bearing partner to be closely watched and carefully guided, or possibly (rarely) both. But no matter what, the Hamster of Doom™ lurks just beneath the surface of every single one of them. Ignore it at your peril.
The truth is often unpleasant. Welcome to real life. Make the best of it.
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There is such a thing as knowing too much. The Romantics believed in this. Slow down. You’ve got a lot of life ahead of you. Let it unfold in its time. Find the good in peope; its there too.
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if you havent had oneitis yet you havent fucked enough chicks
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What a c*nt. And Facebook is a piece of shit too. It turns people into voyeurs and faggots who just post inane garbage.
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don’t worry no feminist will call her out, she is just venting.
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I have been using that link for a while, great stuff to stomp feminists.
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in order to be a good girl, she cannot have slept around, she can never turn back into a good girl once she has gone the hookup route. if the sweet girl at the library once had a threesome, she is no longer a good girl no matter how many hours she spends knitting and never goes out. i think that christianity is for mugs, but purity in a girl’s sexual past is something that the culture has whitewashed over as irrelevant, it is part of what makes a man more willing to commit and is better grounds for a more successful long-term relationship. if the girl tries to cover up her past, once the bad girl has been unleashed, it will rear its head at some point in the future. there are always signs.
i see good girls as the female equivalent of the virtuous man than websites like these attract, they are resilient in their own way not to cave into the mental corruption side of the modern life. the good girl and the virtuous man are the only long-term match that can work healthily in the long term where monogamy is concerned.
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Important comment (and awesome gravatar!).
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You aren’t going to find very many virtuous “good girls” who are atheist. If any. Atheism all too often becomes an excuse to not have to behave oneself – the intellectuals have their logical arguments for their atheism, the majority of average women involved with it don’t really think it through. Just like religious girls. (How many average women do you know who can defend ANYTHING they think in a logical manner?).
There are no guard-rails against the ugliness of human nature in atheism. The only decency found in the system is derived from the base Judeo-Christian culture in which it originated. Faith in a deity aside, religion’s a very useful framework for managing dangerous human behavior. Religion may be for mugs, but it certainly keeps the typical girl on track when her own judgment might fail her, doesn’t it?
I have a male coworker who’s struggling with that very thing – he hates religion, but can’t find himself a good atheist girl. I keep telling him he’s not going to find what he needs if he can’t at least tone down the “sky daddy” bullshit (because that’s the kind of rudeness that shoves a girl away), but hey, to each his own.
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Atheists are free riders on Judeo-Christian civilization, and if there are enough of them they drag everything back down toward barbarism.
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There’s middle ground between “religious” and “atheist”.
I prefer my girls to not have opinions on anything controversial or important.
Indeed, in this generation many girls were raised with church and gradually stopped going, but don’t self-identify as atheist.
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This right here ^
I am in no way religious or an atheist, and most women I have been with in the recent past are the same way. I consider myself spiritual because I do believe in a creator of this rock we are on, but not a god. I don’t believe in a “sky fairy” (that term still cracks me up) or some supreme being watching every little thing I do.
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You are an Agnostic then.
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I agree that there *can* be middle ground, but the post-modern liberalism of my generation is eating through the support beneath that as well. Disdain for religion – and more importantly, any norm that religion holds to be true, which is where it matters for the slut behavior – in those who are explicitly *not* religious is subtle but vicious. A girl may not self-identify as atheist, but it doesn’t mean she still adheres in any way to the values her religious parents tried to instill in her.
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the base guard rail against a slut should be shame, breaking one of god’s rules is also a powerful incentive, but it is shame without the need for a religious slant which is more of a primal societal mechanism against this. we rightly view sluts is low value and detestable, i think that any woman labelled as such knows deep down that this is a severe attack on their character.. decency in females didn’t need to derive from religion, but a lot of positive characteristics were codified and then conditioned into by fear of the consequences of breaking them, some are natural behaviours of strong animals and some are bullshit, lumping them in together was a good trick.
the shame of being a slut is now not enough to keep a girl on the rails, cities are partly to blame for this, where a greater level of anonymity is granted, where a close knit social group mitigated against this. this is the price for modern civilisation though, it does mean that standards for purity need to be notched down if you go monogamous, but it has also given us with it some hacks (planes to go to eastern europe)
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Right. Shame is definitely the most powerful social force out there… but where does it come from, and more importantly, how do you justify it? Natural instincts are powerful things as well, but again, the problem there is that society can program people to ignore those (which is a big part of the reason why we’re in the mess we’re in now – the libs fucking hate our natural sexual instincts, such as the male revulsion towards women with high notch counts, and the female desire to be protected and mastered, and the denial of those has created a lot of dysfunction).
There are probably ways of creating an agnostic society that is able to function without the presumption of a higher, non-human, authority, but every system we currently have in place today draws its lineage back to some kind of religious practice. Religion’s currently the best system we’ve got for keeping the rails on things. Like you say, in this case, I’m talking about religion’s ability to codify social rules into inarguable moral laws. It’s a foundation on which we can base societal shame.
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Just butting in here…don’t know how I came across this website, but I noticed kolo’s description of a ‘good atheist girl’ and cynthia’s rebuttal that not many of these exist. For the record, I pretty much am one! I’m 20 years old and although I was raised Catholic, became atheist at the age of 14 upon discovering logical arguments against the existence of a God, (science etc) and doing a lot of research on the subject. I used to try to debate the topic with others, but have since given up, on the basis that people will simply believe what they want to believe and no rational argument will shake the ‘blind faith’ of those who insist on keeping their eyes firmly closed to measurable, evidential truth.
Also, cynthia, you claim that “religion’s a very useful framework for managing dangerous human behavior”. That’s an interesting hypothesis and may well be true. However, in my experience of growing up, without many positive role models, although there have been periods during which I was very lost and confused about what kind of person I should be (I find Buddhist philosophy very helpful and insightful in general), I have and do continuously try to be a decent and pleasant human being. I’m by no means perfect, and I definitely have my faults, but overall, compared to most people, I’m aware that most society (and notably my close friends and family) would consider me to be quite a kind, thoughtful and just overall pleasant person. At the risk of sounding conceited, I could go on about my good points, but I think I’ve made my point.
I also haven’t slept around, and this is purely by choice. I chose to wait until I was 19 before I had my first kiss on an occasion where it felt special and was with someone I really liked and I seriously considered waiting until marriage to have sex. I fell in love with my boyfriend who claimed he loved me and would never leave me…would always tell me I was the best thing that ever happened to him, the most beautiful person he had ever seen etc… and I gave him my virginity because I truly believed that we were going to be together for at least a long time (he had brought up the topic of marriage in the future). Eventually, it transpired that we were not a good match, and he wasn’t sure in the end if he ever did love me and the relationship broke up.
Also, I ‘m not a prude at all (at least in a commited relationship I’m not) and I’m not unattractive or even what society would consider average…I’m no Angelina Jolie or anything but I’ve been complimented on my looks since the beginning of adolescence basically.
So there you go, attractive, atheist, intelligent ‘good girls’ do exist. Not to blow my own horn or anything, just stating fact.
Make of that what you will.
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You’re also Italian. In English-speaking countries, it’s a little different story.
Also, reading Richard Dawkins doesn’t really get you the whole story. I’ve seen plenty of supposedly “logical arguments” in favor of atheism — I’m in academia myself — but they all have holes wide enough to drive a truck through.
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The out-going Pope resigned because he did not think that the existing church resembled very much the institution with which he fell in Love 70 years ago. And so he felt little motivation to die slowly in public for the sake of its public image.
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He is also gay and had a very gay past and this info was about to go public. He should not have been elected in 2005.
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LOL and yet YOU are privy to this info XD
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Funny, I thought all the priests were gay. It never seems to be little girls they’re diddling after all.
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Haha, yes, there’s also the fact that he’ll be staying in the Vatican with “Gorgeous George” Gänswein.
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Typical to their policy of being pc, the Wikipedia editors have deleted any reference to Gaenswein and the Pope having a relationship but you can find the information if you click History and then compare revisions where the editors write “Deleting slander”.
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Besides, an Argentinian is just an Italian who happens to speak Spanish (and thinks he is in Paris).
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Yeah, I see this about Bergoglio being a non-Italian and the first Latin American pope and…
just…
Non-Italian? Seriously? Just because he was born in Argentina? It’s like calling a black American a non-African.
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This woman got the cover of Time. I didn’t read the article though.
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Good. Heartiste read it so we don’t have to.
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lol He’s a trooper.
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There is no way any human can be as stupid as she pretends to be. The only possible conclusion, therefore, is that she is evil. I’m a lawyer. In the law firm world we read the same bullshit constantly–only 10% of partners are women.
We all know, of course, that that’s because most don’t WANT to be. Their law degree was their Mrs. degree and they work for about 7 years (coincidentallyll@ll.d while riding the cock carousel from age 25-32) and then they get married and never work again, costing their firm and the beta slmanaves who remain untold millions.
Nobody *wants* to work. Working sucks. We men do it because we have no choice. Women have a choice. Most don’t work after age 32. That’s why few are CEOs and law partners. It’s as simple as that and as plain as day.
Yet I have to sit through seminars about “women’s advancement” and shit.
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Hideously ugly truth.
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Yep.
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Re: defense budget and shitholes:
For any military force, the more combat the better. Any shithole in a storm. An enormous amount was learned as a result of these conflicts, and that is their true and only relevant outcome.
If we looked only at advances, say, in the technology of medical prostheses we’d be looking at stunning success — and that’s one example among hundreds.
The point of war, as I’ve written before, is technological advancement. It’s not pleasant, but it’s how it is.–
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I think there has been a lot of advancement in regenerative medicine resulting from Iraq and Afghanistan. Essentially, the gov wants to reduce the cost of taking care of disabled vets someday by hopefully being able to regrow limbs etc. If they succeed, we all benefit; but at quite a cost in lives.
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This Sheryl Sandberg woman is a jew. What a fucking surprise.
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Of course, men also have differences in short-term and long term mate standards. We just know better than to claim to be victims owing to the cultural or personal tradeoff fallout from those differences as much (we do it some, of course, evidence guys in sexless marriages who married low-T “mommies”).
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I like big breasts and curvy asses, so at leat I know I am not feminized.
Men’s Oppressive Beliefs Predict Their Breast Size Preferences in Women
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-013-0081-5
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Makes sense.
Long live patriarchy and big titties!
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Heh, yeah exactly. I read the headline and thought, they’re talking about me. Patriarchy forever.
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I must be quite the Oppressor.
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Who is this woman to tell the rest of us anything?
Modern Western femininity is a deeply schizophrenic thing, isn’t it? I’m a female, and I’ve never understood the logic sets these women’s brains are running on.
They expect to be able to live a completely uncivilized existence in regards to physical sexuality, but demand that men must be enslaved in this imaginary “civilized” construct that has never existed before in human history.
They rail against the realities of human biology when it runs contrary to what they (think they) want, but then turn around and insist that imaginary biological constructs must never be questioned.
They insist that all women have the right to whatever future they want, and then puzzle over the fact that some women want different things than themselves.
They agonize over thoughtcrimes committed against underage sex workers, but mock mercilessly any woman who happens to be a practicing Christian.
They ignore the North African women who hack off their daughters’ genitals off with a broken beer bottle, but tell every girl who’s ever regretted a one-night-stand that they’re victims of the Patriarchy.
And on and on and on it goes.
Be internally consistent, bitches, or GTFO.
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Modern women live as near-savages because modern men permit it.
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:THE: number one reason for society’s downfall right now is “no fault ” divorce. Period.
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Compared to the average US feminist, those “poor” African girls seem to be doing quite well reproductively, even absent genitals….
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To be fair, in this broad’s case, it’s not alpha fux, beta bucks. It’s alpha fux, beta kitchen bitch.
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Isn’t this just a specific instance of the general, “Do not attempt to marry someone with substantially higher market value than you?”
If some schlub ends up married to a slammin’ hot chick (maybe he knocker her up in high school?) she’s probably going to end up cheating on him and/or leaving him, because she can do much, much better. Conversely, when a woman marries the kind of man that all other women dig, he’s probably not going to be faithful, and may well not stick around, because ten years later she’s older and twenty-somethings are still just as hot.
Indeed, the Chateau seems to be suggesting women would often be better off avoiding the “cock carousel” and aiming for the higher end of the provider beta/lesser alpha spectrum. Isn’t this all just saying that you should aim to date and marry in your league, and that bad things happen if you try to go above it?
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Indeed, the Chateau seems to be suggesting women would often be better off avoiding the “cock carousel” and aiming for the higher end of the provider beta/lesser alpha spectrum. Isn’t this all just saying that you should aim to date and marry in your league, and that bad things happen if you try to go above it?
The annoying thing is, undesirable women get fucks by alphas (or greater betas if they’re also fat) and constant compliments and attention from betas, putting them into an entitlement vicious circle.
Dudes… don’t fuck, or compliment in any way, bitches or fatties. You’re only rewarding their bad behavior.
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“Indeed, the Chateau seems to be suggesting women would often be better off avoiding the “cock carousel” and aiming for the higher end of the provider beta/lesser alpha spectrum. Isn’t this all just saying that you should aim to date and marry in your league, and that bad things happen if you try to go above it?”
Because women’s SMV peaks at 18, so does the quality of men that are in “their league.” While for men, SMV peaks at 39. And, remarkably (not!), both sexes SMV decline pretty much equally fast from there; ensuring that marriages between 20yo females and 40 yo males of equal SMV when entered into, will see the partners at fairly equal SMV throughout life. Thus, minimizing risk of infidelity and divorce. The key for marriage stability, is to marry “in your league” and at an age that synchronize partners’ respective SMV decline rates.
Back in the day, with shorter life expectancies, and shorter rampups before max career earnings/status for men, the ideal age discrepancy was smaller. heck, back when life expectancy for a 15 yo was 35, both men and woman likely peaked in SMV at around 12. But today, men are economically children and underlings until their 30s, young men on the make until late 30s, and only then the “leaders” that marriage minded women desire.
While women are still maximally fertile, and maximally likely to have healthy and strong offspring, at 18 (or earlier, laws enacted in exchange for hag votes have made that academic.)
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Some women are just not getting it; a man wants a wife, not a co-worker.
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Since men, at least successful ones, do gain social advantage as they age, they should think very hard before they “settle” for some used up carousel rider. They don’t change. If the betas want children at all costs, and the girl has apparent high quality genes, get a prenup and get paternity testing. If she refuses, especially the latter, she is sending you a clear message.
I was thinking today that during the last several thousand of years, religious, cultural, and legal ideas and concepts have all have come to the same conclusion. Men can be, and must be, afforded much more freedom than women. Women are by far the more irresponsible and selfish gender, and require much stricter controls. They are completely amoral. Western society is just relearning what was well known just two centuries ago.
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“Since men, at least successful ones, do gain social advantage as they age, they should think very hard before they “settle” for some used up carousel rider.”
Yes.
I shudder to think about what a clueless beta I was in my 20s. I had girlfriends, sure, but always from a scarcity mentality.
In my early 30s I got serious with a classic “you go grrrl” my age (call her “S”) whole biological clock was a tick tick ticking. Her ball-busting nature eventually penetrated my thick beta skull and I broke it off before getting engaged. (One thing that helped was when she told me she had a “certain image” to uphold and so she must have a $20k+ engagement ring. Made things much clearer.)
I learned game after that and had a blast in my 30s. My career also kept kicking ass both in money and prestige. Combined with game skills, I found myself swimming in vag. Abundance mentality galore.
Looking back, it was clear that S was looking at me through beta bux goggles. In hindsight I’m also pretty sure she wasn’t even faithful. I dodged a bullet with my name on it.
Men – your sexual market value only increases with time if you are progressing in your career. Don’t settle. My advice is end up with a girl at least 10 years younger who is traditional, feminine and likes to cook. Cooking is correlated mightily with other desirable feminine traits.
The world is your oyster. Take it on your terms.
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even better if they have never cooked but start learning how for you
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Or you start teaching them how to cook. Kitchen sex is hot.
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The telltale sign I like someone: I want to cook for them.
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🙂
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“My advice is end up with a girl at least 10 years younger who is traditional, feminine and likes to cook. Cooking is correlated mightily with other desirable feminine traits.”
Probably true generally, though there are exceptions — my ball-busting feminist ex-girlfriend (whom I dropped when I came to my senses and just as she was hitting the wall) cooked better than anyone I’ve ever met.
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This is interesting: http://livingresearchinstitute.com/men/4Dangers/indexw.php?CID=16&AFID=1014&click_id=102d3522727663d89fe58dfd8b2926
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The affiliate link above presents some good information about the importance of naturally increasing your testosterone levels. Near the end of the video, it attempts to provide the panacea for your low-testosterone ails: “Advanced Test-O-Boost.” Whether or not you choose to fork out $49.95 a month to set up an auto-ship program for their drug is up to you.
What I will do is summarize the “4 dangers” so you don’t have to spend ~20 minutes watching the video like me. Yeah, you’re welcome.
And the “4 Dangers” are:
1. Cellphone/Wi-Fi exposure (next to your nuts, no less);
2. Cortisol spikes from environmental stressors (eg. financial, family or personal problems, lack of sleep, etc.)
3. Plastics leeching into the water (which spike your estrogen and kill your testosterone levels) and;
4. A fast food diet high in testosterone-killing sugars (eg. white, bleached flour in breads and the high concentration of sugar in just about everything we eat).
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And what is interesting is that behaving like a male, an Alpha male actually boosts our testosterone levels.
Lifting heavy weights, winning against another man or conquering women are some examples of what raises testosterone levels.
Having success in general raises testosterone.
More reasons to reject feminism and its cousin liberalism and most things Western Civilization is devolving into.
Behaving like feminists wants us to behave lowers our testosterone levels. Really it does.
This is not an opinion, it is a scientific fact.
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http://phys.org/news181826700.html
Women’s bodies and minds don’t agree on what’s sexy i.e. Heartiste is right as usual
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An unattractive middle-aged woman advocating having your fun with the bad boys then settle for some nice guy to help her change diapers? That was just depressing.
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“I don’t wanna sound like a feminist slut or nothin… but I kinda wanna fuck the sexy jerks and make the niceguys wait to put a ring on it.””””””””””””””””””
i think they call the guys jerks or assholes because they are the guys they want but they didn’t put a ring on it and moved on
just guys that didn’t want to stay with them really and they must be demonized
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i think the best society could do is the virgin when married give em a chance at happiness in that context and then go ahead and ride the carosel if it doesn’t work out
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I have to disagree with the very last sentence. Women will usually never come to realize the reason for their unhappiness. They will just continue to blame men.
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This is a little off topic but I’m amused at how Sandberg represents feminism so I read the entire Salon article. Sandberg doesn’t just admit that men are more aggressive and ambitious while women are more content and less likely to seek a promotion but she actually provides examples from her career. Later in the article she mentions the delusional 77 cents on the dollar gender pay gap statistic. Sandberg may have two degrees from Harvard but she must have missed the week in 2nd grade when the “cause and effect” principle was taught.
Sandberg really is a great representation of modern day feminism. She has earned multiple Harvard degrees and has worked her way up the corporate ladder. Meanwhile, men are taking risks and building things. Zuckerberg = entrepreneur. Sandberg = employee. Does the 77% statistic make sense now?
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“I don’t wanna sound like a feminist slut or nothin… but I kinda wanna fuck the sexy jerks and make the niceguys wait to put a ring on it.”
I just can’t see much point to game when your reward is getting physical with people who are, likely as not, thinking charming thoughts like this. They really should never have let us see this beast.
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that quote is clearly from a masculine woman whose hamster is malfunctioning. women should to be able to wrap this cold truth up into a neat little package instead of telling it like this, this could be what working like a man has done to her.
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Once again, you are dead on the money. Consider this paragraph:
I hope every beta male in the world is reading this post right now, because this bitch just opened up and exposed the mouth to hell that burns at the heart of every woman’s naked id. Not all women are so aggressively calculating, but most feel the subsonic thump of compulsion to autonomically follow the alpha fux, beta bux dating strategy. It’s your job as a man with functioning testicles to stop women from using you in this manner. Paradoxically, most women will love you harder for stopping them from indulging their worst instincts.
Question: how do you convince Beta males of this reality?
I don’t mean out of any altruism. I’m thinking of the overall position of men in the war of the sexes. Not to mention the survival of civilization-as-we-know-it. Because too many Beta males and we will be unable to hold back the onrushing barbarian hordes.
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Too many alpha males and there is nothing to hold the hordes back from. In addition most warriors who will sacrifice themselves for the greater good of their society are going to be beta males. The alpha has no real reason to fight, produce or innovate because he gets pussy for accomplishing essentially nothing. In this way, alpha males have more in common with women than other men, as neither has to be useful in order to secure access to reproductive opportunities, they just need to be. There is no incentive for women or the alpha male to demonstrate abundance in substitute for quality.
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If a male COO of a large company wrote a book containing a bunch of gender biased lies then that company would have hell to pay. I encourage everyone to close their Facebook accounts in response to their COO’s new book.
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Way ahead of you, friend. I closed my account a looong time ago.
http://www.theonion.com/video/cias-facebook-program-dramatically-cut-agencys-cos,19753/
Congratulations, person of interest! You have a new friend request from “DHS”!
Sandberg is just another servant of The Combine.
∞
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Hmm, I’ve been thinking.
Just as it’s the man’s job to get sex out of the woman, it is the woman’s job to get commitment out of the man.
So when women complain about men not manning up or being scared of commitment, it’s not the man’s failure, it’s the woman’s.
The responsibility to get what you want out of the relationship rests with you.
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http://www.returnofkings.com/7543/american-girls-have-no-game
Or put another way, its the woman’s job to have girl-game to get commitment from the man just as it’s the man’s job to have man-game to get sex from the woman.
Funnily enough alot of man game comes down to exhibiting a masculine behaviour and mindset and girl-game comes down to exhibiting a feminine behaviour and mindset.
Western civ, re-inventing the wheel on the proper norms of interaction between men and women. Thanks marxists!
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OK, per se you are not “wrong”… but in practice what will prolly do ya better than this is:
1. Exhibit/Mimic Dark Triad Behavior – Even if only a little bit. Generate mystery and a leeeetle bit of trepidation. Not Jeffrey Dahmer… something like James Dean/Rhett Butler. Flaunt expectation and social convention. Menefreghista is your watch word.
2. Mah Time is Valubal – Engage with folks that demonstrate that they are worthy of engagement, and use tactics to ensure that they qualify for this. Gently ignore those who do not fit the criteria.
3. Enforce Dog Training – invariably punish bad behavior, and variably punish good behavior (don’t be cruel, be fun but inscrutable).
4. Exhibit No “Try Hard” Behavior – Use the 1/2 to 2/3 rule (CH), and always have the “Takeaway Nuke” Launch Codes (and use them when necessary).
5. AHF and ABC – Always Have Fun and Always Be Closing. Slowly slowly catchee monkee (as long as you have the grin). If someone can take away your ability to be amusing yourself, well then…. they are in control, aren’t they? And so you ain’t the AMOG. End of.
The hard-charge man may work at some point in future, but in today’s fvcked up world, these rules apply. Some are silly. Some are primal. All are real and effective.
∞
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This so good.
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I know who you are talking about b/c I read a more in depth article by her in the new Cosmo. I was like “oh boy if heartiste gets a hold of this.” LOL. Not only that she offers a different take on your idea that when couples share the chores the sex drive is lowered with women.
She actually states the opposite. That when men share the workload and chores and take on more feminine supportive roles to wives who are high up on the career ladder, that there is better sexual harmony.
What say you? You can read more about what you posted and that issues i brought up in the recent Cosmopolitan mag (the one with KIm K on the cover).
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http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/statistics/historical/gands.pdf
can someone explain how now its a big deal to be in a deficit since we have had a foreign trade deficit since 1974 why the big deal now again
””””’Bad news for libertarians: most Americans are wedded to big government. The teat suckling won’t end until it has to. anepigone.blogspot.com/2013”””
from comment there
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Clearly spending too much in facebook lala land, mistaking imaginary ‘likes’ with being liked.
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Great post.
‘And so we see them tossing around terms like “boys” and “guys” to avoid addressing their potential lovers and providers as “men”’
Even the phone-sex girlies from the Babestation tv channel have such disdain for men that they call them ‘boys’ or ‘guys’. If they called them ‘clients’ or ‘customers’ then it would show at least some professionalism and respect for the paying customer; but no, they can’t even bring themselves to that low level of respect for men.
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Visiting my folks, who have no internet. Leafed through Time instead of the many great books my old man has. Buried in the Sandberg essay was some comment “these days everybody but little boys believes that women can X Y and Z”.
It’s time for men to Lean Out. Sales, startups, self-employed; find a niche and exploit it.
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‘everybody but little boys believes that women can X Y and Z’
Maybe we should put those guys in charge for a few years. It couldn’t be much worse than it already is. At least it’d be a fun few years.
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@Olive: I can’t reply above. First of all, CONGRATULATIONS! This is wonderful news 🙂 The problem is everybody has different levels of experience and expectations. In my case, I have only exchanged a few emails with this guy and already I feel pressured by his interest, which is ridiculous! To him, he might feel that the emails were more significant than I do. To me, if someone flies across the country to meet me, that means something. *hint* It doesn’t. I don’t have a lot of issues with people coming back into my life as they pretty much decide I’m a deranged lunatic. I have a very hard time letting go and I hate to be ignored. I don’t think its a matter of being nice or harsh with people. I think the key is to treat people in a way that their dignity remains in tact. I too have someone I recently called when I was down, which I don’t like to do because he was interested in me in the past. However, since that time, I’ve listened to a lot of his romantic woes and tried to give him honest feedback, so we really are more like friends. But I’m very conscious of not wanting to “use” him.
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… To me, if someone flies across the country to meet me, that means something. *hint* It doesn’t….
If I understand correctly what you are saying, then you are an ingrate b*tch
Poor guy who goes trough all this trouble and expenses and you see him as no more valuable than a kleenex?
If you don’t care at all for those men, why the hell do you let them fly across the country to meet you???
what the f*ck???
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You don’t understand correctly. I thought it meant something to him. I was wrong.
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Oops…
sorry
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Its alright. Just a misunderstanding. A small one compared to the one I’m describing. I’m sure he does feel I was ungrateful. There are two sides to every story. I thought he was “the one.” I called him my DreamMan. I thanked God for him. I really, really thought we were on the same page, but it turned out we weren’t. That is the main cause of problems at any level of relationship: one person wants more than the other is willing to give.
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Oh, and, yes, I do agree that at a certain point it is up to the other person to realize what they are doing wrong and learn how to fix it on their own. You can’t take on the world’s problems all the time. People are ultimately responsible for themselves. Again, I am no shining example of this. I too sometimes ask “why” and burden people with my hurt and disappointment in them. Sometimes it just can’t be helped.
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This is one of your best posts. More please.
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One solution is to find a real, natural red-headed woman with a mile wide violent streak and a a libido that comes close to matching yours. You will both have to tell – or at least believe- fewer lies over the course of your lifetimes.
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Beta male rage alert:
HERKIMER, N.Y. (AP) — Police in upstate New York stormed an abandoned building Thursday morning where a man suspected of a deadly shooting rampage at a car wash and barbershop had been holed up for hours, killing the man after he fired on a police dog.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_UPSTATE_NY_SHOOTINGS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-03-14-08-38-10
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Facebook. I’m being prompted to provide a PHONE # in order to log into my page. Can’t get around it. Why? I’m not giving out my #. No way in Hell. I don’t use my real name (or any real name) on my page. I use it to keep track of articles and links I like to save. It’s convenient that way and it keeps me connected to a few select “friends” with similar, mostly political, interests. Any comments, suggestions or observations about this?
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get a throwaway phone use that number
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How hilariously self-evident. Do you seriously think that you are the beknighted genius to think this critique all up? Your virtues are intellectual honesty and bravery. I posit a more dire scenario. THEY ALREADY KNOW THIS. By “they” I mean the intellectual class (teachers, politicians, writers). You can’t dismiss the idiocracy of the West as a comedy of errors. This is all cultural maxism let loose.
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“It’s as if women have forgotten that men respond to sexual market cues as well, and won’t just casually accept disadvantageous dating roles that leave them supine to women’s machinations.”
But if society keeps men indoctrinated and disenfranchised well enough they just might pull it off.
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The only thing worse than a sexless single life is a sexless marriage. All downside. magazine.foxnews.com/love/main-reas…28 minutes ago
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don’t ever let your chick go to a counseler
my exchick when she was on the drug rehab program she had to see a counseler as part of program
counseler like why do you dress up every day
she like cause i want to look good for my man
i guess wrong answer lolzzzzzzzzlzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
counseler was a fat ugly bitch
counseler set her up for domestic violense counseling bullshit she like i don’t have that problem
telling her she can get a free house and shit at the clinic if she did have that problem the fuck
counseler was trying to set her up with a job at her own company for towing company
asked her about her sex life she said A+
but what the fuck is that the counselers business
really if you want a chick that wants to have sex with you all the time just make sure to sit beside her at the dinner table
and if you have kids still sit beside you woman and have her feed you at the table so she doesn’t misconstrue who is the main priority in her life if every meal you have together is that intimate life will be intimate
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One last time…. i thought i’d met a girl who i’d keep in my roster for concurrent LTRs while fucking on the side, even though that, i had some affection.
She flew from her country to visit me, and honestly i think my game ain’t the strongest so i couldn’t overcome Massive LMR and i’m not into WhoreFinder’s strategy ;D
So the 3rd day, i inveigled her into telling me her dating history, so this SUPPOSEDLY good girl has
1. Bad boy who broke up with her cousin and fucked her for a year before dumping her ass.
2. Black Guy who cheated on her and got married (Cross-race dating whore)
3. 32 year old guy (good game guy!) with a 16 year old daughter (Super Monogamous Slut Alert!) ;D
I’ve been a Dick to her since the day we met but when she told me Bachelor #3, my complete image of her shattered and dang if i didn’t feel DISGUFTED xD, this was the last chick who i thought was decent as I stopped putting ANY chick in ANY image an year ago but this just made my day.
So being a dick, giving comfort and getting the truth was worth it, cuz now i finally see her as the cum dumpster she is, and it feels good. Have some more time but i’m basically telling her to go fuck off and be friends with a tree cuz i like fucky-fucky friends with girls. ;D
Have to give credit to you CH, I respect intelligence and it is indeed not easy to grow from being a BOY to a MAN , but goddamn is it good ;D
Peace out!
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3 dudes?
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Oh and btw
1. Has a Single mom/Got pregnant/married/ divorced father
2. Started dating Bachelor #3 last year and still is
;D
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lol oh so she trying to have the man harem i have seen this
mine is back to running two dudes lives among many others
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3 dudes that i know of. She isn’t a slut but all my experience, instinct and stuff ive learned tells me , she has all the potential of being one. Plus i didnt ask her about ONS.
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If she was with a black guy, you’re only scratching the surface of her exploits. Multiply what women say by a factor of 3-6. In this case 6. You need to look for another girl.
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+1 amen !
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Get her to introduce you to #3s daughter 🙂
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lolzz… she flew in from germany to meet moi 😉
I gotz a bottom bitch on my ass so
time constraint + high risk of getting caught made me get impatient, 2 dayz
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if you want virgins just date the older chicks with 18 year old daughters
nm they still won’t be virgins
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It’s not about Virginity mate, it’s not even about 3 dudes, it’s about the type of image she PROJECTS vs what she doesn’t tell. I literally had to be a slave-master and whip her ass with level 8 mindfuck fluff to get this out. If she had been forthright since we met, i’d be cool but she wasn’t and didnt until i forced her to.
Oh and First Right FTW mo-fucker! xD
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level 8 mindfuck fluff ””””””’
so yareallys level of nonjudgementalism
lol
i did that with my chick but when she told me the story of the hampster i didn’t really want to know anymore
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lol Man-harem…. smart sir! touché! ;D
But im too far gone to put up with ANY bishes BS , the evil is laughin inside me ;D
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till you get oneitis but then you still got to maintain your standards but it is hard as FUCK
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i think that is how you set yourself up though for later in life is actually having a bunch of female friends that have daughters that they now want to marry off to you when ya hit 40 or so and are successfull long term type strategy
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A woman I’ve known since the 80’s, now 42, has slept with so many men I have lost count. A couple years back she decided to become a reformed slut, and make the next fella wait. She said he better be handsome, drive a nice car and have a good job…….she’s still waiting.
She did, however, go home and have a threesome with two dudes she met in the pub on new years…..
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oh shit lol
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there’s no whore like an old whore
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This has never been a secret, men are sold this:
The ‘old’ her was a immature little girl who foolish gave herself to the bad boy while ignoring the many nice guys trying to court her.
The ‘new’ her is now a mature and smarter woman who realizes the error of her ways and great those nice guys are.
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She also offered a different side to your theory that when men share domestic house duties and take on more supportive roles in the home, that there is less sex.
She claims the opposite. That when men share with house chores and take on more supportive roles assisting their wives (especially those with high demanding careers) that it increases sexual intimacy between the couples.
Hmmmm.
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Oops forgot to mention source: the recent cosmopolitan magazine (with Kim k on cover). They did a whole piece on her new project for working women where she said what you posted as well as the other stuff I posted.
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I have known(cough) a woman friend who has squezzed out 3 children with huge brains – all 3 of which made 1500 SAT + scores – and because of Gods love retained 11 year old tightness and enthusiasm.
That she was dangerously psychotic never really mattered much to me.
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Whenever women complain about the madonna/whore complex, men need to come back with their cads vs dads complex. It needs to be that automatic, or situationally-ethical women will never make the connection.
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just tell em they have a used up gaping hole of a pussy if you really want to ruin a womans day and drive home a point
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Heh, that’s for when they start talking about d!ck size.
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Or tell them that “No child deserve to grow up with a whore for a mother. I honestly don’t have the heart to do that to my own kid. You’re hot, and all that practice has made you good in the sack and all; but remembering my own childhood, I would not have wanted my mom to be known for that……”
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The truth hurts.
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”The only thing worse than a sexless single life is a sexless marriage. All downside”
Oh, really?
[CH: Rly.]
I thought you think that settling for a guy you don’t love is better than being alone
[We’re talking about the man’s perspective. For men, a sexless marriage is hell. Women can coast in sexless marriages for quite a while.]
… Nice to see you’ve changed your mind.
[Nice to see you’re still a cunty troll.]
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Guys, Lena Dunham is glad she doesn’t look like a hot babe, and doesn’t think she’d like it.
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20681770,00.html?xid=rss-topheadlines&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+people%2Fheadlines+%28PEOPLE.com%3A+Top+Headlines%29
Hamster, set course; Warp 9: engage.
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Women are attracted to powerful, high status men. Not “jerks” per se. It;s not their fault, they’re hardwired that way. In civilized societies, “good” behavior leads to power and status. Just imagine the life expectancy of a “jerk” when everyone is carrying guns, and there are no gommiment to harass you for using them on whomever you fancy…..
In today’s Western Dystopias, acting a jerk signals power and high status, since if anyone does to the jerk what they wold have in a civilized society, then the Alpha of our age; the government, will inevitably side with the jerk. So, just as the game strategy of pulling more by being in some super alpha like Brad Pitt’s social circle works; so does acting a jerk, i.e. having the government exhalt you by giving you “notoriety” as a “powerful threat”, but ultimately backing you up when push come to shove. Extra credit for realizing that jerks are highly valuable for governments, since it is exactly the kind of people that noone would transact with voluntarily, that have the most to gain from hiding behind laws, codes, rules etc forcing others to interact with them.
So, chicks dig guys that project power. Regardless of whether that power is functional or dysfunctional (jerk). They don’t dig the dysfunctionality for it’s own sake.
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Guns weren’t around when the emotional brain evolved.
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You know Jay gets it:
Lights is blinding, girls need blinders
so they can step out of bounds quick, the sidelines is
lined with casualties, who sip to life casually
then gradually become worse, don’t bite the apple eve
Caught up in the in-crowd, now you’re in style
Anna Wintour gets cold, in Vogue with your skin out
City of sin, it’s a pity on the wind
Good girls gone bad, the city’s filled with them
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[…] This guy is a scholar when it comes to analyzing trends in gender dynamics and most of the comments by his readers are pretty enlightening. I think all men (the younger they start the better) should be reading all of his posts and it’s pretty much all they’d ever need to read to be successful with women and stay out of trouble. […]
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Read this NY Post “Feminist Takedown” of Sheryl.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/women_worst_enemy_sjGvDqEhR54DfmBOsMLc9K
Aside from the savoring of the fact that, ONCE AGAIN, the Left eats their own, what’s bugging me about the larger cause célèbre of Sheryl and her blatherings is that she has nothing innovative to say, at all. She represents no change, and stands for no new zeitgeist or idea.
– She has a wife, essentially. So in many ways, we should be treating her like a man with lady parts. She’s got a submissive herby dude who is her “mate”, that she might cheat on, if she has some form of libido, but to which she is certainly dominant. P.S. I don’t think she’s sleeping around – I suspect she gets off on power, not sex. She’s a ball-breaker, is my guess.
– She advises a bunch of herby boy-mens who are younger than she (and dorkier and super beta), like Mark Zuckerberg. So, I am sure she pulls the female card, and the dominance card. Hey, let’s all remember … “The Facebook” itself was the perfect fever dream of a spergy dork who couldn’t get laid. Thank god it was successful, otherwise Mark would be on “America’s Top 10 Serial Killers” today. Further, since all of the folks running FB are MoT, I expect that she pulls the Jewish Mother thing on her colleagues, and even her boss, and that that works quite well for her. Hey, if you got it use it.
– In the software industry, if you aren’t a total idiot, have some level of people skills, and have lady parts, you’ll get far. Farther than you would with man parts and the same skill set. It’s Affirmative Action in, err, action. Sheryl is a great example, but so is the universally lauded Marissa Mayer (the talking points on her are so uniform across articles it is nauseating, and they all cleave quite closely to this “Woman Who Can Do It All” mantra. Mmmyeah,).
Plus ça change…
∞
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When my daughter flew into Kirkurk, Iraq, Certain people met her at the airport. Everysingle one of them was strongly motivated to make things go the right way for her visit.
Never over-think These issues….
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“, at the end of her long, exhilarating but empty journey, that her happiness as a woman was never amenable to her best-laid blueprints for the efficiently maximized love life.”
-thus she shall sing:
“I’ve been to paradise, but i’ve never been to me”
BTW just a little clarification here:
a women fucking you consistently (you may or may not have a child) for a long time and she refuses to marry or doesn’t force the marriage is another indication that she sees you as an alphamale? is there a reason for a woman to not want to mary and if she does not want to but still continues to give you her body, is that a good or a bad indication of your status in her eyes? This could be another maxim on the making CH, I hope somebody could clarify thanks,
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rooshv is a loser. he will die lonely, very very lonely.
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Too much thinking is not better thinking.
Make the right phone-calls, use the Right Words – and yur job is done.
That is, if you called the right people and used the right words.
The beauty of the enforcement mechanisms inherent in the Gold Standard for settling international trade imbalances is that the rarely needed convos tend to be very short. When there is a daughter involveled these convos tend to be very short indeed..
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Kurdish Girls are Hot. Really, really hot; if the effing big picture is takkin in.to account.
Neanderthal genetics are effing awesomely explanatory.
It is starting , little brother…
Prepare yourself.
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