In Scarface, Tony Montana famously advised, “In this country, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, you get the women.”
Tony wasn’t wrong. (Piles of) money and power will buy a lot of pussy. But ♥♥science♥♥ disagrees about where men’s priorities actually lie, and what is the most efficient path, as implied by neuronal feedback, for men to pursue to increase their reproductive fitness.
An unusual but very illuminating study concluded that, given a choice between viewing a hot babe and making some dough, men will choose the babe almost every time.
An ERP study on decisions between attractive females and money.
To investigate the neural processes of decision-makings between attractive females and money, we recorded 18 male participants’ brain event-related potentials (ERPs) when they performed a novel task of deciding between viewing an attractive female’s fuzzy picture in clear and gaining a certain amount of money. Two types of attractive females were included: sexy females and beautiful females. Several new electrophysiological discoveries were obtained as following. First, the beautiful females vs. money task (task B) elicited a larger positive ERP deflection (P2) than the sexy females vs. money task (task S) between 290 and 340 ms, and this probably related to the perception matching process between a visual input and an internal representation or expectation. Second, task S evoked greater negative ERP waves (N2) than task B during the time window of 340-390 ms, and this might relate to response conflict and cognitive monitoring for impulsive tendency. Third, the ERP positivity in task S was larger than task B in the time interval of 550-1000 ms, reflecting that sexy female images may have higher decision value for males than beautiful female images. Fourth, compared with choosing to gain money, choosing to view an attractive female evoked a larger late positive component (LPC) during the same time window, possibly because attractive females are more direct and evolutionarily earlier rewards for males than money amounts.
See the accompanying graphs at the link posted to get a better handle on the study results. There’s a lot of dense scientific jargon to wade through here, but the gist of it is this:
Based on neural imaging results (“brain event related potentials”, or ERPs), men will choose to view a sexy woman (read: a slut signaling her availability for sex) over making a bit of coin. Men will choose to view a beautiful woman (read: a modestly posed looker you would take home to mom) about the same amount as they will choose to make coin when viewing the slutty sexy woman, but they will choose to view the beautiful woman more often than they will choose to make money while deciding directly between those two choices.
In even lazier shorthand, men are hard-wired by evolution to choose a shot at the ultimate reward of sex with hot, sexually available women over choosing a shot at sex through a proxy fitness signaler like making money. Or: yes, it really is all about the nookie.
Call it the theory of path of least resistance to sex (a concept elucidated here at CH many times, and THANK YOU science, for once again validating core Chateau Heartiste concepts about the workings of the sexual market). Those MGTOWs and tradcons who argue that the best feeling of reward men get is from making money and being one’s own man, are simply wrong. The best feeling men get is from sex, or even a promise of sex, with attractive, young women. The Christmas tree lights of neural imaging results don’t lie.
Not to say that making money or earning power doesn’t feel great on its own. Certainly each of those do. But if the choice is between the great feeling from a DIRECT evolutionary reward and the feeling from an INDIRECT evolutionary reward… well, it shouldn’t take a scientific study to figure the bleeding obvious. Men will go for the sex directly and skip the hard slog to make themselves more attractive as sex partners if they have the option to do so. There’s a lesson there for women who ride the cock carousel with aloof, low investment cads.
One interesting part of the study was the result that men will be somewhat more likely to concern themselves about making money if an attractive but chaste woman is within view. This suggests that men, justifiably, perceive less slutty women as better investment vehicles. It also implies that beautiful women who don’t need or want to use their sexuality to curry favor with men will be more aggressive about screening for men who can provide for them, or who signal potential that they can provide for them.
Do women have their own sexual market theory of path of least resistance? Yes. Except it’s not a path of least resistance to sex; it’s a path of least resistance to commitment. Women will go for a man’s emotional commitment EVERY TIME if said man makes it easy for them. “Easy” means, in this context, sexually undemanding. Anhedonic. Effectively neutered. LJBFed. BETA. A woman gives up nothing to get a beta orbiter’s loyalty, support and, in some tragic cases, hard-earned provisions. There’s a lesson there for supplicating betas. Make the ho say no? How about “make the slut pay up front”.
That’s the way it works in the wild and why men have been told by wiser, more civilized men to defer gratification from the poontang and get their status and provisioning act together first.
Of course, I signed on to a Southern Shotgun Wedding at age 17 so I can speak from experience – but then I went on to proudly sire and raise a large family.
That’s also the mechanism advertisers use to get men to blow their hard earned money – put up a photo of a sexy woman as sucker bait.
Men – know your weaknesses!
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You mean men are better served staying virgins until their late 20s/early 30s? Not gonna happen
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Nope. You better serve yourself by staying home and studying rather than going out drinking every night.
You better serve yourself by taking a difficult, time-consuming course of study than “communications” or “political science.”
You better serve yourself by delaying marriage until your later 20’s/early 30’s, putting your energies into starting your career, and then marrying an early 20-something.
Yea, real men will want to chase tail at all ages. Just balance where you put your time and energy more towards investment and less into consumption.
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So true! Sometimes you can’t engage in instant gratification. Only weak men fall prey to their desires all the time. Sometimes you have to delay gratification and do what will be better for you in the long run. Women love men who have conviction and a sense of purpose. A man chasing tail while putting his career on the backburner, is like a man who drinks at the expense of his health. He gives off a sense of weakness and loserishness. It’s doesn’t promote her looking up to him. Women get turned on by men who are powerful physically as well as mentally.
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I’ll shit on this “chasing pussy is for losers” notion a bit: There are situations where it’s important to hyper-focus on making up a massive deficit in an area of your life.
If you are 400lbs, hyper-focus on working out and dieting a major focus of your life for a while till you’re down to something reasonable and have built up good eating habits. If that means passing up wing night with your buddies, or going to bed early, or being a little tired at work because you’re sore from your workout, who cares, you need to focus for a bit and get on track to fix an area you seriously lack in.
If you’re poor as fuck, there’ll come points where you need to hyper-focus on work and earning money. If that means staying in to study for exams, turning down booty-calls to get some extra work done, staying in on a weekend to focus on a business you’re starting up, you have such a massive deficit in that area that its good to focus and get on track.
If you have no social skills and your love life is shit and you have no idea how to make friends or attract girls or get a girlfriend and that’s something you want, well guess what, it’s time to hyper-focus and get that handled. If it means going into work tired because you were out late, or spending some money on new clothes/style etc, or putting work on auto-pilot in the background or even taking a job that’s conducive to these skills (sales, customer service, bar industry, etc) then fucking do it. That’s fine, don’t let people give you shit for fixing the massive deficit you’ve found in your life.
Once you get on track in these things you can chill a bit and decide what your overall priorities in life are. But you won’t get good with girls if you start from being socially inept by going out once a month. Just like you won’t start a successful business by working once a month or get in shape by going to the gym once a month.
If you lack in just one major area but the others are decently handled, fuck it, put those on auto-pilot and catch your lacking skillset up to them. Once you’re doing alright in all areas you can figure out how much of your time/energy you prefer to devote to each area and figure out a schedule where you can keep all areas in good shape.
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Some people want to butt heads even when they basically agree.
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A-fucking-men.
I’m content with the rest of my life.
It’s the lack of pussy that I’m not content with.
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@Whitehall
If you mean me, I was responding to “A man chasing tail while putting his career on the backburner, is like a man who drinks at the expense of his health. He gives off a sense of weakness and loserishness.” I don’t basically agree with that at all.
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YaReally, I think I get you now (finally), and agree with you. Yes, major deficiencies require major focus and commitment to correct… as your examples duly illustrate.
Not everyone who reads these blogs suffers from major deficiencies in this particular space — some follow these blogs to refine their already healthy mindsets, as opposed to completely overhauling their thinking (though many visitors to these sites do indeed seek the latter… so that’s important). It would be easy to assume that all do, but that’s just not the case.
For anyone sharing from this particular perspective, please consider accepting that fact, and tailor your message for a bit wider audience (an early one-phrase caveat in your missive should usually suffice… a simple procedure). That will serve to unite common interests, rather than divide them. We all stand to learn from each other, regardless of where we individually exist on the path. Division along common lines is unnecessary and ultimately counterproductive. (Legitimate divisions are, well, legitimate, and I wouldn’t propose quelling them.) Pulling, however, is a space where I believe most of us agree on the macro, if not the micro. Leading from the macro can only serve us all.
Appreciate your contributions, YaReally. Even if I disagree with many of them, I still learn from them.
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If I remember your older comments, you’re living proof the “hyper focus” approach works.
Now what’s strange is that if you’re good at pulling ass but broke, its easy to focus on making money and NOT spending in it on chasing women. You understand exactly how cheap and common pussy is.
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YaRealy, I agree with you that social skills are very important. However, I didn’t say one should only focus on work and neglect his social skills. All I am saying is that chasing chicks at the expense of a man’s career isn’t that smart, if that is all he does all the time. For example, if you rather go out to a bar on Thursday night with the guys to pick up chicks instead of working late at the office, it’s not that detrimental to your career. However, if you never agree to work late and always choose to leave at 5 pm for happy hour when you know it has an adverse effect on your career, then that makes you a weak-minded instant-gratification man who acts more like a teenager than a man with a purpose and responsibility. How do you think DRs are made? After 15 years of combined study with hospital internship is how. Those guys don’t run out every night for happy hour or go bar hopping every weekend. They might be lucky to get one night a month (or every two weeks) to have fun. But the effort they put into it in their 20s pays dividends throughout their lives, because by the time they are in their mid-30s every hot female alive wants to date those guys. Just their status alone screams alpha, even if they are beta at the visceral level. Working hard in your 20s and early 30s so that you are successful by the time your mid 30s roll around, is a very smart strategy for men. Sometimes, it indeed comes at the sacrifice of pussy, but many times one can find the golden mean and do both with the understating that if it came down to it, pussy comes second.
It’s very much like saving money for retirement. You shouldn’t spend all your money in your earning years. You should put some away so that by the time you’re ready to retire, you have a nice amount to live on until the end, without having to take jobs when you’re too old and sick. Hence, you work hard in your youth so that old age will be more comfortable.
Yes, for men, success in a career should come first, otherwise he risks becoming a lifelong loser. That said, a person should also become a well-rounded individual (to steal a lefty term), and that means he should also find the time to better his social skills with the ladies. Men who can master both are what we call “lady killers” – they have the sexual skills and the authority (or the status) to dominate women. I just don’t think that cheap sex with bar sluts and one-night stands should always come before mastering your career.
On the other hand, for women, preserving beauty, looking hot and the best you can, and focusing less on a career and more on catching a guy for the purpose of marriage is what makes a woman a winner and not a loser. Career-only oriented women, as well as women who chase bums, drug addicts, jerks, losers, PUAs who will never marry them, one-night stands, or friends-with-benefits arrangements are also loser-make in women.
Life is partly about weighing the positives against the negatives and making choices. In the end, we all have to live with our choices, and no amount of blaming others for our failures is going to change the reality of who’s responsible for every choice (YOU). Therefore, we all have to think super carefully before every step we make. If you have fun in your 20s without cultivating a successful career, you’ll pay the price later when you’re older and going to bars just doesn’t fit anymore, and you have nothing else to entice a woman besides your personality. By that time, you’ll have no professional success but your pussy procurement might be at its highest. Does that spell success to you? If it does then good for you. You just have to decide what’s more important to you, make a decision, and live with it. Some can do both. Some can do only one thing at a time. Some can do nothing.
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@avd
That was an epically polite response lol
“Not everyone who reads these blogs suffers from major deficiencies in this particular space”
I get what you’re saying, and when I give advice to friends in real life I couch it in all sorts of digestible polite ways.
But on here I’m just info-dumping for the hard-cases because I was a hard-case and I would’ve stumbled across this site if it had existed back in the day and bullshit like:
“A man chasing tail while putting his career on the backburner, is like a man who drinks at the expense of his health. He gives off a sense of weakness and loserishness.”
and “But the effort they put into it in their 20s pays dividends throughout their lives, because by the time they are in their mid-30s every hot female alive wants to date those guys.”
…is the kind of stuff that would have let me rationalize “oh a GIRL said I’ll be a loser and weak if I chase tail and if I just focus on a good career I’ll have every hot female alive wanting to date me, so I’m going to focus on my career instead of chasing tail!” and gone another 10 years as a virgin wondering why girls don’t want to even date me, let alone touch my cock, and then become a rich-ass doctor who still can’t get laid to save my fucking life except by gold-diggers and hookers.
Most women and a lot of guys who were never really socially inept don’t understand how damaging a lot of these little shitty mindsets and beliefs people brainwash men with can be.
Like this dude’s account is what a *TON* of men (including myself) have gone through or are going through:
http://whoism3.wordpress.com/2012/11/17/confessions-of-a-reformed-incel/
These are the guys I’m tailoring my message for, the guys who have their life mostly together will do just fine in life if they skip over my comments, I don’t really care if I reach out to them or not.
@andrewmichaelmedina
“If I remember your older comments, you’re living proof the “hyper focus” approach works.”
Yup. I lived/breathed/slept pickup hardcore for a few years. Now I just go out on the weekends because I have this area of my life handled enough.
“Now what’s strange is that if you’re good at pulling ass but broke, its easy to focus on making money and NOT spending in it on chasing women. You understand exactly how cheap and common pussy is.”
Yup. This is what I’m doing now. My financial situ is somewhere between “broke” and “poor as fuck”, so I’m focusing on money. But it’s easy to focus on money because I have girls txt’ing me every week wanting to fuck lol if anything it’s almost annoying having to snub them as much as I do because I know that I’ll lose some of them (turn down a casual fuckbuddy enough times and she finds someone else who’s more available).
Meanwhile how many of the guys who can’t get pussy are slaving away at their careers and spending their fri/sat nights alone and lonely feeling unloved and unwanted? I’d bet it’s a lot more than the guy who can get pussy worries that he can’t afford a steak dinner now and then.
@Lily
Oh boy, here we go.
“chasing chicks at the expense of a man’s career isn’t that smart, if that is all he does all the time.”
Agreed. That’s why I advocate a period of hyper-focus and then balance it out into a normal schedule. But even THEN, if a guy has decided he doesn’t care about money or keeping up with the Jones’es, and he loves relationships and poon, who are you to tell him he isn’t smart? Should he adopt your value system instead of his own?
Ultimately every man has to choose for himself what’s important in his life, even if Lily on the internet thinks he should work on his doctorate so he can buy her nice things when they get married. This is why, while I think the MGTOW guys are a little mis-guided, I can respect that they’ve decided what’s important to them and live congruently to that. Even if I think they’re nuts, they don’t give a shit what I think, so hey, good on them for deciding their own value-system instead of letting myself or society do it for them.
“However, if you never agree to work late and always choose to leave at 5 pm for happy hour when you know it has an adverse effect on your career, then that makes you a weak-minded instant-gratification man who acts more like a teenager than a man with a purpose and responsibility.”
What if your career isn’t that important to you? What if at Happy Hour you meet the woman of your dreams who’s a fantastic mother and you raise fine children together into your old age? What if when you’re out socializing you meet business contacts who help you get a better job or move into a different industry that pays more? What if you were a shut-in nerd growing up and while everyone else was having fun and living life and having relationships and friends and feeling loved, you were alone in your computer room until you finally learned how to socialize and meet people and attract women?
What if you just LIKE socializing and going to happy hour and interacting with other people fullfills you more than slaving away at your desk to earn some bling?
Again, who are you to decide what things are important to other people?
Read that incel guy’s account of what being alone is like. As a girl, you probably haven’t had to understand how it feels to not have another human being even TOUCH you for 10+ years of your life, while everyone around you is loving life and having fun. You can say “oh just focus on your career” because the whole time you’re focused on your career 90% of the guys around you are trying to stick their dick in you…whether they’re attractive or not to you isn’t relevant, the point is they’re there if you needed them…a guy, meanwhile, can end up with not even fat ugly chicks wanting him because he’s not blessed with good looks or game and spends all his time working and the girls he works with are surrounded by other guys they’re more attracted to.
“How do you think DRs are made?”
lol I know how they’re made because I party with them (and students training to become them) regularly. And you know what most of them are doing? Partying at the bars every weekend (minus exam time) to relieve the stress of their studying/work. And they’re fucking like rabbits and hooking up with eachother.
Except for Bob. Because Bob listened to you and he stayed in to study instead of going out with the rest of his class. You’ll recognize Bob down the road when you see him on the news shooting up a theatre.
“But the effort they put into it in their 20s pays dividends throughout their lives, because by the time they are in their mid-30s every hot female alive wants to date those guys.”
Oh, okay. Then the guys on Death Row at the bar, who are good looking, have money, accomplished careers, etc. but go home alone every week don’t actually exist. And the accomplished guys I know who spend 80hrs a week working are ACTUALLY having sex all the time because women just fall from the sky and throw their vaginas at them.
I met one guy who, when he started learning about game, was depressed as fuck…because he only went to med school because he believed it would help him get a good girlfriend down the road. Then, after a bunch of sexless years of his adulthood wasted, he realized “ohh the way to get a good girlfriend is to learn how to attract girls…except now I’m locked into a program that will consume all of my 20s and part of my 30s”.
“Just their status alone screams alpha, even if they are beta at the visceral level.”
No, you’re just spouting socially-conditioned bullshit right now. I know and hang out with a fuck-ton of highly accomplished guys who’s careers should give them alpha status, but who are beta and alone and haven’t had sex in years because that doesn’t translate to being able to attract women.
This is the stuff I was talking about up above that fucks guys up. Because you have a set of tits so they go “fuck what YaReally says, let’s listen to Lily, a girl, she says I’ll be alpha as fuck if I become a doctor and I’ll get unlimited pussy, so I’m going to continue wasting the best years of my life.” And then those guys become rich-ass accomplished dudes…and they have to pay for hookers because they can’t get pussy.
“Working hard in your 20s and early 30s so that you are successful by the time your mid 30s roll around, is a very smart strategy for men.”
It is definitely a very smart strategy for men who want to create an identity based around providing nice expensive things for a woman.
You know what’s a good strategy for men? Escaping the rat-race and experiencing life and living for themselves and their own values instead of for your approval or whether they’d make a good provider for a woman or not.
You can start a business at 45, guys do it all the time. If you’re 45 and trying to start learning pickup, you’ve lost out on 20 solid years of experiences with women and it’s an uphill battle because of your age.
Now if a guy REALLY wants to become a doctor and he’s comfortable with the fact that 1) he’s going to miss out on a lot of experiences with women in his prime and 2) becoming a doctor will *NOT* guarantee him any kind of pussy whatsoever, like he’s 100% doing it because he wants to, that’s cool, go for it dude.
But a ton of guys are following the bullshit people like you peddle about how once they have a good career a magical perfect woman will fall from the sky and they’re in for an extremely hard reality-check when it doesn’t happen…all they can do from there is lament wasting most of their life chasing a dream you sold them, and play catch-up and hope they can recover.
“but many times one can find the golden mean and do both with the understating that if it came down to it, pussy comes second.”
Pussy only comes second when it’s an option for you. Again you probably can’t relate to this because even if you were hideously ugly you could still throw a profile up on a dating site and have 20 guys offering you dick in a week.
In your mind you’re saying “well since getting laid isn’t really a big deal, they should focus on their careers”. Again, read that incel guy’s account of what life as an incel is like and all the pain and frustration involved. And understand that *FAR* more men live life like that than you’re aware or or than will ever admit it to anyone around them. You’re saying “c’mon starving Ethiopian child, you should focus on eating fresh vegetables instead of that McDonald’s burger in front of you!”
“and that means he should also find the time to better his social skills with the ladies.”
Make up your mind. Should he spend all his time studying, or should he better his social skills? Oh, that’s right, you think social skills aren’t a big deal to learn because as a woman you were forced to socialize and learn those skills from the time you sprouted tits. Meanwhile the 24yo who’s been living in his computer room playing Warcraft for 5 years and has no one inviting him out to parties and no friends except online, is spending another night jacking off to porn and wondering if he should lose his virginity to a hooker.
Again, this is why women shouldn’t give advice on this shit. You just can’t relate to the world a lot of guys who google “how to get a girlfriend” are coming from.
“I just don’t think that cheap sex with bar sluts and one-night stands should always come before mastering your career.”
Cool, those are your priorities. I don’t think girls should come before my career either, but that’s because now I’ve had sex and I know I can GET girls.
“On the other hand, for women, preserving beauty, looking hot and the best you can, and focusing less on a career and more on catching a guy for the purpose of marriage is what makes a woman a winner and not a loser. Career-only oriented women, as well as women who chase bums, drug addicts, jerks, losers, PUAs who will never marry them, one-night stands, or friends-with-benefits arrangements are also loser-make in women. ”
You’re a very judgemental person.
“Life is partly about weighing the positives against the negatives and making choices.”
Agreed. The disconnect is that to you “getting laid” isn’t as big a positive as “making money”. Ask the incel guy when he’s debating losing his virginity to a hooker (since he can afford to pay for one, he has a ton of money because he spend his 20s on his career), or before he slits his wrists alone in his apartment, if “making money” is more of a positive than “getting laid”.
“Therefore, we all have to think super carefully before every step we make.”
That’s why we shouldn’t listen to you or social conditioning that tells us “go break your back and miss out on life for your entire 20s and most of your 30s, so you can finally start enjoying life at 34…except then you have a heart attack from the stress at 35. Oops.”
“and you have nothing else to entice a woman besides your personality.”
That’s really all you need.
“By that time, you’ll have no professional success but your pussy procurement might be at its highest. Does that spell success to you?”
If you consider the end result of success is “being in a loving relationship and raising children”, how is being charming enough to marry a rich chick and raising children with her any different than busting your ass to be a provider for a poor chick and raising children with her? The end result is the same. You could even start your own business and become accomplished while with a rich chick.
I’m not saying that’s the goal, but I’m saying there are other options/paths/goals than the one you picture. Because all you’re picturing is what you want in a guy to make you happy, you don’t really give a shit what the guy wants.
“You just have to decide what’s more important to you, make a decision, and live with it.”
Is that what you’re saying now? Because earlier you said: “A man chasing tail while putting his career on the backburner, is like a man who drinks at the expense of his health. He gives off a sense of weakness and loserishness.” and “On the other hand, for women, preserving beauty, looking hot and the best you can, and focusing less on a career and more on catching a guy for the purpose of marriage is what makes a woman a winner and not a loser. Career-only oriented women, as well as women who chase bums, drug addicts, jerks, losers, PUAs who will never marry them, one-night stands, or friends-with-benefits arrangements are also loser-make in women.”
So which is it? Should other people live up to their own values and pursue their own goals and priorities, or should they all conform to what the soliplistic Lily demands?
You don’t even have to respond to any of this, I don’t care, I know I’m not going to convince you of anything and I have other shit to do lol I’m just writing all this for that incel lurker out there who’s reading your nonsense while he takes a break from working overtime chasing a socially conditioned dream to google “how do I get a girlfriend?” because he’s starting to wonder if he’s going to be alone forever. Sup, buddy. Don’t worry, it’ll all be okay. Keep reading the Chateau. lol
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YaReally: the PUA with the heart of gold 🙂
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Methinks YaReally doth protest too much……….LOL. Dear, if there was ever a comment you should be able to delete, this is the one. All you did was exaggerate and misrepresent everything I said, which only means you can’t take differing opinions and you have an innate need to quarrel, which by itself is a bit effeminate. Alphas don’t sit there and argue with girls endlessly. I can’t believe we’re arguing about this for the umpteenth time.
OK, if you insist on arguing, nowhere did I say one should ignore his social skills. Social skills are very valuable, not just in picking up girls. People possessing excellent social skills are just more liked, and they do much better in business and career – that’s a fact. Therefore, I am not against getting good with girls. I just think that dedicating your whole life to it is loser-make in the long term, because when you get older you have nothing else to fall back on. That’s what I meant by one needs to be careful not to focus only on sex when neglecting his career and money-making abilities. Why is that so distressing to you?
I know getting laid is important to men, but constantly letting your instant-gratification needs rule you even at the expense of your long-term goals isn’t smart. The best, most well-adjusted guys, find a way to do both with a greater emphasis on their careers.
Somehow, you turned it to I want men to be able to buy me nice things. It has nothing to do with the woman’s needs, it has to do with you – if a man wants to be able to afford a nice lifestyle for himself and not live like a hippie well into his 50’s, then he can’t rebel with pussy.
The reality is that even you have reality hitting you in the face, which is why you are focusing on your livelihood more than on girls at this point. Yeah, I know you say it’s because you got girls down to a science and you’re not fretting about it, but I think it’s more reality hitting you in the face or otherwise you’d be continuing to have endless fun with women if you could continue living like this indefinitely. Even you, Yareally, realize that you have to conform if you don’t want to end up with nothing 😀 One way or the other, reality catches up with everyone.
Regarding doctors, you partying with pre-med guys doesn’t count. Pre-med is not a doctor make. Many end up changing majors way before medical school. Show me interns going out every weekend, what a laugh. I know their lifestyle as I am indirectly connected to it (without giving away too much information about myself). Their routine is not YaReally style. But I admit, doctors is an extreme example of male dedication to a career. For guys with a less demanding careers, why can’t they do both with a greater emphasis on their career? Why do you always get infuriated by this notion?
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Only weak men fall prey to their desires all the time. Sometimes you have to delay gratification and do what will be better for you in the long run.
Except that there is a certain Darwinian principle at the heart of Game Theory [as a subdiscipline within the broader context of The Dark Enlightenment] which holds that the ONLY thing which matters is whether or not the sperm meets the egg [resulting, about nine months later, in a live birth].
So, from that point of view, all that matters is whether a fellow scores some poontang about zero to 72-hours prior to ovulation, whether said fellow wore a condom, and whether said poontang was on the pill or was using spermicides or whatever.
Now I’m not a Darwinian Nihilist [at least not yet] – I still cling to the belief that both Nature and Nurture [i.e. both genes and culture] are of fundamental importance, and I’m all for your ideal of a fellow foregoing a little gratification for the sake of the culture [even if, in the end, it proves to be nothing more than the acculturation of his own immortal soul].
But don’t fool yourself – there are plenty of full-blown nihilists in the Game Theory crowd who will tell you that there is only the poontang and the ovulation.
And – at least in the short run – from the point of view of a certain deterministic fatalism of biological mathematics, they’re right.
My big problem is that, with biology, the short run quickly becomes the long run, and, in the long run, without the culture, we’re doomed.
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Fuck American chicks and then dump them. And if they try to hit you with a false rape accusation or any such nonsense, BLOW THEM AWAY!!!!
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A bit of a tangent point: I bet time since a man last had sex changes the sex/money priority dynamic. But only to a certain point.
For example, Men who just rolled off a babe will probably prioritize money a bit higher, probably with diminishing intensity up until about 12 hours after the nut. Then they’d prioritize pussy higher with accelerating intensity until their next nut.
Blowing a load in a girl has a way of freeing you to refocus your masculine purpose elsewhere. Want to have a productive day at work? Morning sex.
As a side benefit I’ve found I run my best properly aloof game in the hours after fucking. Girls can sense when their pussy isn’t your evolutionary priority.
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This.
When you are having regular sex with a hot girl (8+) the world is your playground. I find myself much less stressed and just more relaxed in general. I also find myself (gasp) wanting to be a better person.
On a side note, I present for CH consideration the 5-5-5 rating scale. Face/head is rated 1-5. Neck to waist is rated 1-5. Waist to feet is rated 1-5.
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not bad
i’d go
hair
eyes
face
neck
shoulders
arms
hands
tits
stomach
ass
hips
legs
calves
knees
feet
and how pretty the pussy is
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forgot lips
and asshole
he he he
plus upper back and lower back
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then you got the clavicle and the tendon in their neck that sticks out when they turn their head that I want to bite and shit
to own their body you got to own it all
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You forgot personality
😀
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Yes, but it’s a negative quadratic curve and not a linear function. I can speak as a perpetual celebate to the fact that going long enough without it (or never knowing it) decimates the drive to obtain it. Those most vulnerable are those who get it erratically, never so much that they lose scarcity anxiety, but never so little as to lose the constant taste for it.
Not saying it’s anything to be proud of, but not having nookie has definitely made it easier to tell bitchez to fuck off when they play the intimate touch card on me. No I’m not gay, man-porn doesn’t do it for me. No I’m not asexual, as I still get the urge to get some from time to time. The urge is more like a drug addict’s urge to get high or the natural urge to eat, both with practice and scarcity can be controlled through learning and practice.
If I ever end up a father, I assure you it won’t be by accident. Being so used to not having tang also lends similar powers to being flush in tang: the ability to say no.
Granted, getting this bad isn’t a path I recommend, it takes YEARS of rejection and inability to score before one can unbind that male, naturally-born tang addiction. I couldn’t imagine Heroin being much harder to break…
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“both with practice and scarcity can be controlled through learning and practice.”
should be
“both with practice and scarcity can be controlled.”
PROOF READING IS FOR GIRLS!!!11
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hHmm,a guy who uses the phrase “negative quadratic curve” has trouble getting laid?
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loolol
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Well naturally. Sex is somewhat like food. Once you eat, you’re not hungry until your next feeding.
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Even moreso, just like with food, it’s kind of gross to look at once you’ve had your fill 😀
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Well played Flavia, Well played.
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Money and poon will both bring various good and bad things…but in the end making one or both your main pursuits will lead to a life of ruin.
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I agree. A hobby, you enjoy, will bring more long term happiness than both.
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Go out and bang a beautiful sexy Eurasian 9,…or work on my stamp collection. Decisions,decisions…
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If you go for money you will end with money AND pussy.
If you always rate pussy over money you will end with neighter and end as a frustrated feminist manboob.
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yea definetly get the loot
older you get more important it will be
and it ain’t just about poontang
a chick will do anything for you if you either got the balls to ask or make it happen
based on percieving you to have loot
he he he
even if you drive a 1999 truck and live in a fucked up house
maybe with the chicks i deal with because of it
its an ironic world we live in
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yet i beat out dudes with more loot than me so who knows
loot plus game plus developing connections plus chick everyone knows with your name on her neck that you treated good and every chick wants to be plus not giving a fuck = lot of chicks wanting to treat you special
””’There’s a lesson there for supplicating betas.”””
you want a lesson beta get in her head say no to sex and no to eating pussy
will fuck a bitch up
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You’re becoming a commenter-to-watch for me lol. Good shyt my dude. These girls think they’re winning when they have dick in their mouths. Gotta let em know from time to time
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yea when this chick comes back with two black eyes i’ll know she really wanted to be with me just like the last one he he he
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lol yea i allready put the idea of tatting my name on this new chick
she like yea but once you get the name tattoed you break up
how long ater whathername got the tat did you break up
me yea but we not together so it doesn’t matter
laughing rolling around
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A gunslingergregi reality show would probably be amazing
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i’m still waiting on the j chick from the past to return i have the put the word out though
only chick my exchick was scared of being able to take me from her
first chick that begged me to fuck her that i actually did
crazy chick too run around naked at the river howling at moon and shit
before i had my house and when i was broke
as long as it was edited it ain’t wild all the time but it has its moments he he he
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you really don’t see the hottest chicks that often
j chick seems to only show up one or two times and when I don’t respond positively or my exchick answers the door she disappears again off the map
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or it took 10 months or so from when I told her not to come back to my dads
till I saw her walking on my hill and picked her and dude up and dropped them off in another town for twenty bucks
till she figured out where I lived and showed up at my door a week or so later and the chick I had answered it he he he
mate guarding lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Perhaps “make the scrunt pay up front” would trip off the tongue more lightly.
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So it’s the horse and the cart.
If society wants men to make money they need to get them married first not the other way around. Once again science proves the feminists and Socons have it arse backwards.
Makes scence why MGTOW make the bare minimum, no pootang no money.
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The betas in a Gorilla troop will sit around and do little more than play Gorilla x-box.
It was only when some group of humans changed the rules and gave betas a shot at having an exclusive mate and children they could reasonably believe to be their own that unmarried betas started to compete for the attention of women. This arrangement outperformed and replaced the other societal arrangements giving us civilization as we (used to) know it.
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Human nature says if things were more archaic, many of these guys would have no chance at having families but since civilization needed to be constructed, why not? This world NEEDS these kind of men to keep itself going
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“Women will go for a man’s emotional commitment EVERY TIME if said man makes it easy for them. “Easy” means, in this context, sexually undemanding.”
I don’t understand what you are trying to convey here. You are saying women prefer men who give commitment without requiring sex? Really? am I not understanding correctly?
[CH: More precisely, *use* men who give commitment without requiring sex in exchange.]
My boyfriend embodies this experiment in some ways. He spent a lot of his life taking the path of least resistance to easy lays, but he regrets that now somewhat. Like he said he never got laid like he did when he was once in this elvis tribute band. He said back in the 70s, chicks were nuts to make it with fake elvis. He was the guitar player (not the elvis!), but he now looks back on those days and thinks he should have done something more productive with his time than tour with this silliness just because it was easy access to endless vagina.
Now he is nearing 60, and finally he is ready to be the best musician he can be rather than the one that gets laid after every gig.
They did this experiment and looked at the results in real time. Maybe this is an issue of future time orientation. Look, I’d rather eat a cookie than work out, but in the long term, I feel better working out regularly and skipping the cookie. Maybe these guys would rather have made some money if they looked back on their 10 years of picking the sexy girl every time instead.
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“Look, I’d rather eat a cookie than work out, but in the long term, I feel better working out regularly and skipping the cookie. Maybe these guys would rather have made some money if they looked back on their 10 years of picking the sexy girl every time instead.”
Agreed. And dare I say there may genetic differences in men that might cause them to think of the future more? And that these genetic differences might be *ahem* biodiverse?
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Sorry, but if you’re insinuating that White men are more likely than any other race out there to pick their long term futures over the possibility of sleeping with a hot woman, I’d have to disagree with you there.
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Perhaps. But white and asian men may be more likely than other races to pick their long term futures over the possibility of sleeping with a fat woman.
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You’re fucking a 60 year old?
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say it loud say it proud say it again
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I’m totally proud of it. It’s so awesome. I used to listen to songs my boyfriend wrote on the radio when I was like 14. Years before I met him, I bought CDs and listened to his stuff again and again. And then I grew up and dated him. It feels like growing up and dating someone you always loved.
It’s amazing to put a song on your playlist and then realize later than the person that loves you produced it.
[CH: Every girl crazy ’bout a high status man.]
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I didn’t have that ZZ Top song in mind, CH. “Pearl Necklace” suits her situation.
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“[CH: Every girl crazy ’bout a high status man.]”
In my mind, I love my boyfriend because he his brilliant more than high status, but if you say so, it might well be true.
[CH: Brilliance realized is high status. Evolution has ensured it’s the plumage you find alluring, and not the organized molecules which construct the plumage.]
It’s a good feeling to love someone because of their creative genius. One of my friends (a stripper) said she loved her boyfriend so much because of his “big personality”, but she got tired of having to bail him out of jail so often. I’d feel degenerate if I loved someone for such base reasons.
[That’s your prefrontal cortex talking. What does your vagina say?]
I feel bad for men because it’s not their first instinct to love women romantically or intimately for their creative genius. I’m not even sure if that’s something most men can do at all.
[It isn’t. At best, creative genius in women strengthens an already existing love in men aroused by an attractive body and face. At worst, it can inspire envy and insecurity in men, and erode any love that is there. Otherwise, men pretty much react to creative genius in women the same way they do to creative genius in men: with admiration and appreciation.]
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Holy Cow, is that really feministx’s backside?
Somebody at the Chateau needs to bend that ho over his knee and spank her booty until it’s cherry red.
[CH: If her comments here are to be believed, that’s exactly what she craves.]
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“[That’s your prefrontal cortex talking. What does your vagina say?]”
I do not enjoy sex with my boyfriend. It is very frustrating. Though there are other reasons my relationship is not perfect, that is the only one that really bothers me.
“At worst, it can inspire envy and insecurity in men, and erode any love that is there. ”
It does make me envious, actually, but not in a way that erodes my feelings for him.
“[CH: Brilliance realized is high status. Evolution has ensured it’s the plumage you find alluring, and not the organized molecules which construct the plumage.]”
Ok. Sure seems like I like brilliance for what it is, not how it makes you look to other people. My boyfriend has been working on classical music for several years now. I am really attracted to him when he writes orchestral scores because it’s amazing to see how someone can understand what 100 instruments sound like at once in their head. I have no such ability, so it might as well be a mutant power to me. I feel like I want to have his babies because he automatically has a mental picture of what all those instruments sound like together along with what musicians can actually play. That means more to me than a higher status producer than got to being higher status just because he somehow got his name on a bunch of hit songs. One such “high status” producer tried to hit on me at a party a few years ago. I didn’t go for it because I know that dude is just a businessman and that he can’t really play and he can’t really write the way my boyfriend can.
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@Feministx Time to cheat on your BF. He deserves it. See rule 14 from the commandments of poon.
“XIV. Fuck her good
Fuck her like it’s your last fuck. And hers. Fuck her so good, so hard, so wantonly, so profligately that she is left a quivering, sparking mass of shaking flesh and sex fluids. Drain her of everything, then drain her some more. Kiss her all over, make love to her all night, and hold her close in the morning. Own her body, own her gratitude, own her love. If you don’t know how, learn to give her squirting orgasms.”
I find we forget this rule too often, focusing on our own dicks. Roosh disagrees of course. http://www.rooshv.com/the-female-orgasm-is-trivial.
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The relationship is fulfilling your intellectual and emotional needs (your compatible artistic natures and being the chosen woman), but not your physical ones. While I can’t condone having a relationship with a married man- whatever the circumstances- you will have to decide which of those needs is most important to you. In a situation where there is such a large age gap, it is as though the younger person consigns themself to retirement before their time. It shows a desire to lose oneself in someone else until the individual’s desire to live themselves returns and/or awakens. A younger man- say, a decade older than you- might not be quite so brilliant (yet) but would be eventually. In the meantime, with satisfying physical intimacy, you would probably become as closely attached and could live out a full life together. When we subvert our desires, they eventually find an outlet, which, to me, explains the gravatar photo. The appreciation you receive for it does not appear to gratify you. Might I suggest you look at exactly what you hope to gain from it and how you can achieve that in reality.
[CH: Well, her assatar made me chub. So there’s that reality.]
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I am sure that is the reaction of many. But, from what I see, it is not bringing her any pleasure.
[CH: Oh I think she feels pleasure from the positive apprassal. She’d hardly be a woman if she didn’t. Now, in the matter of her need for a truly passionate, delirious romance… ascii fondles can only provide so much relief.]
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No, it would not be enough. Let us wait for her to respond.
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Vince, I’m judging by what I’ve read from both that the Female Orgasm can both be meaningless, and yet you still need to “Fuck Her Good.”
Square the root or something like that.
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Ugh. I mean trivial, not meaningless.
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“Somebody at the Chateau needs to bend that ho over his knee and spank her booty until it’s cherry red.
[CH: If her comments here are to be believed, that’s exactly what she craves.]”
This is not a secret to any man except for my boyfriend.
“It shows a desire to lose oneself in someone else until the individual’s desire to live themselves returns and/or awakens. A younger man- say, a decade older than you- might not be quite so brilliant (yet) but would be eventually. In the meantime, with satisfying physical intimacy, you would probably become as closely attached and could live out a full life together. When we subvert our desires, they eventually find an outlet, which, to me, explains the gravatar photo.”
Why the fuck can’t I have any girl smarts like this? I would never think of this interpretation. I get that I need to get out of my relationship at some point if I ever want to experience sexual satisfaction again. I just feel a lot of inertia for reasons I have not yet worked out.
“[CH: Well, her assatar made me chub. So there’s that reality.]”
That makes me happy, I must say.
I know this might sound disingenuous to people, but you get that my butt is behind me? Meaning, I can’t see it. I don’t think I ever actually knew what it looked like from that angle until I took that picture. I was not really aware that it would provoke such a positive reaction.
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That nude modeling thing may work out for you. Pursue. Keep your avatar updated.
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Alright, lets all chill out on the white knighting of femx ass and remember how dogugly her face is. Thanks.
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“Why the fuck can’t I have any girl smarts like this?”
No one can see their own ass. You need distance to see anything with clarity.
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My boyfriend has been working on classical music for several years now. I am really attracted to him when he writes orchestral scores because it’s amazing to see how someone can understand what 100 instruments sound like at once in their head. I have no such ability, so it might as well be a mutant power to me. I feel like I want to have his babies because he automatically has a mental picture of what all those instruments sound like together along with what musicians can actually play. That means more to me than a higher status producer than got to being higher status just because he somehow got his name on a bunch of hit songs.
Big deal. I do that too. I’m sure several dudes here can.
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If you two do it, it’d be very meta.
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“If you two do it, it’d be very meta.”
huh? If which two people do what?
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I hope I am replying in the right frame. You and CH!! But I think CH is now a few writers, so prepare for it to get weird.
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Flavia, we can call it a ride on the meta-carousel if you want.
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I figured on my own, long before encountering the Manosphere, that emotional availability is to women what sex is to men, and thus women are happy to use men emotionally without ever sexually commiting. You can be surprisingly beta and still do relatively okay for yourself as long as you don’t become an orbiter.
Yeah, I know the official CH advice is “become an alpha,” but a lot of guys just aren’t constitutionally capable of that. What they *can* do is stop being “best friends” with women. Just stop. Stop doing that one thing. Don’t ever buy a present for a girl who’s rejected you ever again. No cards. No cookies. No flowers. Be friends with men. Ask women on dates right after sussing out a few important points of interest (is she slutty, is she stupid, etc). If they reject you for dates, don’t cultivate friendships with them.
It’s that simple. No, it won’t turn a beta into an alpha. But this simple negative action will raise your SMV several points, because just signaling that you don’t give away what you’ve got for free makes you more desirable. It will also help you re-assess your self-worth and build confidence. You might not end up with an attractive woman 15 years your junior, but you’ll at least find a decent-looking, personable woman who values you.
[CH: A tiny improvement is better than no improvement. That first step is actually the biggest impact step a man can take, for each subsequent improvement will be subject to diminishing returns.]
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…and subsequently, I think a lot of beta rage that stems from “I do everything for this girl and she just ignores me and fucks other guys” will dissipate and make one appear more alpha (as bitterness of that variety is pathetic). Beta orbiter relationships are very toxic to men….
“I don’t like you like that.”
“That’s cool, I just wanna hang out and be friends.”
:::facepalm:::
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Exactly…in case you couldn’t tell, I’m speaking from experience. Simply ending my orbiter friendships with disinterested women and ceasing to initiate contact with any woman after rejection made me a whole lot less grumpy and depressed.
Chicks dig a dude who isn’t constantly moping and whining, it turns out.
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Did any of those girls come around? Sometimes a guy stops the supplicating he becomes attractive….I had a beta orbiter for a few years (don’t kill me, I was extremely clear from the get go and we were “best friends”- but after retrospect, it was what it was) and I do remember having much more respect for him once he finally started dating a girl and dropped off the face of the earth.
“She looks just like you, but skinner.”
LOL. I let him have his final jab, poor guy.
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I wouldn’t know. Ending the friendships meant ending all initiation of contact. The women never reached out to me again in any way, so who knows? As I discovered, those “wonderful friendships” really weren’t particularly valued by the girls. Men don’t call sluts, and women don’t call orbiters.
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The problem is that these guys don’t have a male point of view when approaching a girl. The ultimate goal is sex. Even if you’re looking for marriage, it’s about sex, unless you’re ok getting blue-balled for the rest of your life. Women want commitment.
The men are bringing several commitment traits to the table such as rugged masculinity, resources and the potential to sire offspring. Women are bringing sex traits like beauty, physique and other indicators of fertility. Essentially it’s a barter system and increasing IOIs signal that you are looking at the possibility of a deal. If the girl refuses the deal and instead offers friendship, she’s actually doing the equivalent of sleeping with a prostitute and, when the question of money arises, claims that the pleasure of her company should be good enough.
What these poor chumps are actually doing is giving their goods away for free. Now there are an awful lot of women who do the same, however, they have the sympathetic ear of society when they get pumped and dumped. Nobody loves a beta-orbiter. Deal or no deal, guys. There’s not a third category.
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Beta orbiters are the equivalent of female sluts (as opposed to cads). But even worse than sluts, they OFFER to give it away for free. I have rejected plenty of guys and gotten the- “Nah, I’m not looking to date, you just seem really cool and I want to be friends.” So what do you do? Do guys say, “no, it’s just not ethical because I don’t want to commit to you” when offered no strings attached sex?
You cannot blame a woman for taking advantage of a beta orbiter, any more than you can blame a man for accepting sex from a slut.
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Well, the slut is having fun, at least. The orbiter isn’t at all.
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Some guys do in fact say no for ethical reasons (as opposed to thinking sluts are gross, wishing to avoid STDs and potential paternity suits, not wanting to create a stalker, etc), just like some women do in fact tell clingy guys, “Look, I’m not into you. You need to spend your time finding someone who is.”
I’ve seen it happen before, but it’s rare.
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Oh, the orbiters certainly have it coming. Willful ignorance is the fuel that feeds the fire of the Neronian Rome in which we live. A guy who sees what’s going on and just doesn’t get it is an insignificant little footsoldier in the war. But a lot of footsoldiers wins the war.
The orbiter lives in the fantasy land rather than taking in reality, much like his ugly feminist peers who think ensuring every other girl has a smv as low as theirs will make them gods. I have little sympathy for back-stabbers who will throw capital “M” Men under the bus for some
nookiethe ability to be a platonic putz. The only thing they have in their favor is that a lot of then are genuinely kind in a pathetic stupid puppy kind of way whereas their female masters are master manipulators….not a very sympathetic trait.LikeLike
“You cannot blame a woman for taking advantage of a beta orbiter, any more than you can blame a man for accepting sex from a slut.”
Bingo.
Your life will change mightily as soon as you recognize that you and you alone are responsible for everything that happens to you. Blaming others does not help you.
Girl used you? You’re responsible. Boss didn’t give you a raise? You’re responsible.
I don’t mean it’s always your fault (although sometimes it is), but I do mean that you are responsible for outcomes. Always ask yourself “Ok so I replaced the toilet in her house and that very night she went out and fucked an oily drummer instead of me. How could I change my behavior next time to get sex with an attractive woman?” Focusing that way leads to positive growth and change.
After I realized this I accepted women for the way they are — hypergamous, shameless liars, relentless social climbers and illogical but also sweet, endearing, empathetic, smell good, feminine and delightful.
No one but me is responsible for my outcomes with them. Both me and my penis have been much happier since.
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This is an interesting study, but what’s the obverse of the coin? What are the bitches looking at? I mean, yes yes, commitment, but I mean the “corporate nun” idea that a feminist should feel guilty for looking into a relationship in her 20’s instead of focusing on that “career”?
At least men know they are working in hope of getting laid, what do these women think they’re working for.
[CH: Shoes.]
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The old rules worked. If other rules had worked, they’d be the ones that we’d be calling the “old rules”.
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Wise words indeed
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“At least men know they are working in hope of getting laid, what do these women think they’re working for.”
I’ve long wondered this myself. It’s obvious (to realists like us anyway) that the only reason men do anything is to get laid, but what about women?
If I was a young, childless woman with no husband, I don’t think I could even come up with a reason to get up in the morning. I mean, what’s the point?
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To get attention from all the guys her age yet not plan on giving any of them sex? At least most of them anyway. The ones that pay her the least attention have the best chance of winning with her, then it’s a matter of them not fucking it up
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Very true: I can think of 2 friends whose wives ‘pursued’ them because they came to the workplace to work in one case and in another to a social occasion, and both women readily admit they chose my friends who were not participating in the adoring crowd of men welcoming them. Sometimes it’s that simple…
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i think that women are assuming their desired traits in a man are reflected back with men feeling the same about status in a woman. there is a lot of media for them to consume to back this up as well, which is better evidence to them than the gut feelings they get telling them otherwise.
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Yeah. I kinda wonder if the mainstream media will ever figure out that what attracts women to men (status, ability, accomplishment, respect from other men) is not what attracts men to women (beauty, figure, femininity, a giving nature).
Or maybe they do know but are too wedded to their Orwellian thought control agenda.
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There is still a reason to get up in the morning. Even if one is a young, childless woman with no husband. Just because many women eventually find husbands doesn’t mean every woman will. Just because many women pop out bastard spawn and depend on the government, doesn’t mean every woman is willing to stoop to that level. Childless women with no husbands still have to get up every day to work to provide for themselves because they might never get married and because depending on government largess is immoral.
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Yeah, yeah … NAWALT.
But a lot are.
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Enough are.
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Simple. Self-actualization. Women have been baited into the boring meat-grinder known has “having a job” with the promise that doing so will satisfy the deepest urges of their solipistic natures. The promise is that if you fritter away your twenties amassing debt at a government-financed institution and get a job in some cubicle somewhere, you will finally stop hating yourself and feeling inadequate, either that or worship yourself more than you already do.
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‘sexy woman (read: a slut signaling her availability for sex)’
‘beautiful woman (read: a modestly posed looker you would take home to mom)’
These definitions are harmful and wrong. Sadly, there are even studies claiming that men prefer modest women for LTRs and that they feel women in tight, revealing clothes are only good for STRs (I couldn’t find it now, but I’ll post it if I find it), but in reality a sexy woman (who is classy and feminine) is even more attractive than a ‘modest’ looker. It’s important to look classy, but in general, sexy is always better than modest.
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Keep telling yourself that. Ride that carousel!
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There is a difference between sexy and slutty.
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True, but most American women don’t get it.
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Including our friend q.
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” …but they will choose to view the beautiful woman more often than they will choose to make money while deciding directly between those two choices. …”
The fact men chose beautiful over sexy more often says we are not as shallow as feminists claim we are.
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You got it wrong Canadian friend.
Men will prefer the sexy women if given the choice between sexy – beauty – money. If the choice is only money or beauty they will take beauty over money.
Or easier:
1 = sexy women
2 = beautiful women
3 = money
Now we just have to figure out where football, WoW and beer are on the ladder.
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Who cares what feminists say? How is valuing beauty or sexy in women a shallow thing when it’s part of male makeup? Men can say the same thing about women’s need for financial security. It’s not shallow when it’s part of female nature to look for men who can provide. On the other hand, men looking for women with money as opposed to beauty are shallow.
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Even before my official swallowing of the red pill, I was always good at this. Pretty girls would come to me for stuff, and I’d flat out tell them no. They loved this. My problem was that I never caught onto it. Regardless, I’ve always been good at resisting temptation, especially when it was false temptation with no fruit upon submission. When I look back at myself in the recent past, I see a kid who had game right under the surface, but just didn’t know how to let it out. I had split parents, with a dad and stepmom who always told me to be 100% respectful of girls and blah blah blah. They made me feel ashamed of my alpha traits. Know what I mean?
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Same here man. I was like this with girls all the way from elementary school until I met my 1st gf. Then I turned into a fucking wimp because people had made me feel guilty about who I was then. I had that wimpy attitude 2 more times and I was done. Life is better now
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Been there.
Took me a while to peel off all the layers of pedestalization programming my parents drilled into me and unleash the natural man beneath. Much, much healthier way to live.
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Selfish gene. Scattering seed is the most likely to preserve the genome. Particularly when Betas rarely object (in any effective way to) cuckoldry. Cash doesn’t do that.
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I’ve heard this on another blog (I’m not sure what the name is) but it’s interesting. The guy wrote that when men are young, they should dumpster dive for fat, old and ugly women until they get their money straight.
Then they can go for the attractive ones because it’s more practical. What does anyone here think about that?
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I can’t get aroused for fat chicks. Not even when I was 18 and super horny (and drunk).
I always went for the hottest chicks, and frequently got shot down. But that sweet-natured 6 or 7 admired my confidence and risk-taking and was there to comfort me.
So I’d suggest go for the most attractive girl. As your value increases and your game improves, you’ll do better.
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money is not the thing that gets attraction in itself. money is an abstraction of resources that comes close, but does not fully convert. the attraction comes from the behavioural trait of being good at acquiring resources.
the thing about money is that we can store it for a lot longer than any other resources we had in the past, food would perish and so even if a gorilla has amassed a thousand bananas, those will spoil in a week. and so the ability to constantly acquire is essential, the man who has won enough money on the lottery or has inherited enough to keep him from having to do anything productive for life did not exist pre-money.
the fact that a man has resources in his possession is a good cue that he was able to acquire them with his skill, but that is not always the case, a girl who sees the sports car only to find the guy took out a crippling loan to pay for it will see that there is no congruence between the inside of his house and the outside,
in terms of going for fat girls until you get money, no, the money is not important, if you are able to demonstrate that you have the traits and are working on your ability to acquire more resources in the future, attractive girls will notice that and appreciate it.
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I don’t think guys should do anything they’d consider “dumpster diving”. It kills one’s confidence. Neither the settler nor the settled for gets anything good from it, and since sex can lead to pregnancy and STD’s it’s simply not worth the risk.
There is enough variety of preference and tolerance, and enough prostitution and class tourism that nobody really needs to do this.
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I think it would be much wiser to young men to abstain, at least from marriage. I recall a study from a while back:
Dr Kanazawa theorises after a man settles down, the testosterone level falls, as does his creative output.
http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/scitech/SciTechRepublish_898675.htm
When I was reading the OP, I was thinking of this and trying to envision the world if Tesla got laid young or became distracted with a nagging wife.
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Some married geniuses (Mozart, for example) seemed to actually produce better work than when they were single.
My guess is that the married geniuses whose work deteriorated had settled with homely women, since their social skills weren’t good enough to attract knockouts. Being with a homely woman can make one feel rather depressed and uninspired.
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OT: I was looking for a pictorial 1-10 scale. If you put previous post in order, you just about have it. A pictorial chic scale might make a good page for the top menu?
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/02/11/female-beauty-from-1-to-10/
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/02/12/all-lust-same/
I notice that Mr. Don’t-want-no-high-T is either way ahead of the curve like usual or just has intellectually informed taste. HC and readers rated redscarf a point above tiaramouth, and I think it is the fact that the modern Western woman is more an aggressive race car than a limo.
I think I would prefer tiaramouth over redscarf in terms of handling performace, but I expect redscarf would have motivation I would expect to lack in tiaramouth. Just an impression. I see redscarf as a station wagon, not a limo. And I am all for station wagons because I think family riches are key to being ‘alpha’ as is sovereignty. Game is covert, which is a start of course.
Until I was influenced by another guy to take a second look, at around 23 years old, I liked small asses. I did not realize there was a distinction between big rearward and big sideways or all ways, lol, and how big can be tone not fat. Either I changed my cultural values or, what I favor as an explanation, my cultural override of hardwired preference (neurosis?) was removed.
Is it happening again? Is HC leading the way to favor low-T girls? Is the cultural brainwashing being removed to show our bare instinctual preferences for ‘homely’? I associate, and am I wrong?, lower T girls with less aggression and more dutiful commitment potential, as in good wives. Are we players (and students) using instinctual ‘affair’ tactics (i.e Game) with a bias to target low-T, ltr potential* chics? Is so, what are the ramifications to that disconnect? Predictions?
* – potential ruined by the credit-taxation oligarchic control mechanism.
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This post is an example of r selection vs. K selection.
On average, men lean towards r-selected tendencies in this study.
If you had a study with a less pretty and less slender babe in a seductive pose, you’d see preferences diverge a bit more into a r-selection vs. K-selection pattern.
In other words, men will choose sex with a 9 or 10 over money, but how about a 7? a 5?
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Interesting theory. Yea, I’d imagine r-selected men would bang a 7 (or even a 5) rather than have money, but the K-selected men would go for the money instead.
One result might be that K-selected women have more attractive faces, while r-selected women have more attractive bodies.
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Men are notoriously shortsighted, they think with their dick.
Tony Montana was right. He was future-time conscious. A little less pussy now, lots of no-hassle pussy later.
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If you have game, and you keep it lowkey otherwise because you don’t have time, sure.
If you think slaving away in an office job for 30 years and coming out at the top is going to make pussy come your way, well that ain’t going to happen.
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Well this study seems to be about primal instinctual reactions, not actual decision making once we remember that money is pretty sweet too.
Personally I’m all about the DISREGARD BITCHES, ACQUIRE CURRENCY.
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Making money feels good but the good feeling comes from what you can do with the money.
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Money is a means to an end definitely.
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Seems the majority of posters here do not represent the majority of men at large. A good thing too.
[CH: The majority majorly disagrees.]
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Oh, heavens… you mean most other people DON’T agree with me and my feelings? I’m devastated.
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This is the moment where I’m supposed to clutch my pearls, I take it.
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This entire study is null and void because it did not control for drum beats; ergo any limbic response is invalid.
Please try again.
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the only thing you account for is the “disrespect” shown to you by other apes on the block.
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“Do women have their own sexual market theory of path of least resistance? Yes. Except it’s not a path of least resistance to sex; it’s a path of least resistance to commitment.”
Well, I have a couple of GFs who will drop everything they are doing, including work, for loser jerks just to attain their love. It doesn’t matter that it will wreck their lives, so long as they get to be with these jerks. I don’t have a problem with a woman going crazy over a guy, but not over a guy that could ruin your life. So, yes, women will do the same things for a man’s love (i.e., drop everything for him), as men will do for the chance to have sex with a hot girl. Is it smart? No, in either case. Just because we have urges, doesn’t mean we have to act on them every time, especially when we know they are not good choices for the long run.
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A man who was wrong most of the time had one short moment of insight when he spoke these words: “In the long run, we are all dead”
Dont wait too long.
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I’m not telling anyone to wait too long to get into a relationship, just not to let instant gratification rule your life, because what is good for now is rarely good later. That is what I mean in the long run. I mean, for women, if you know that what you desire now is what you might regret later (especially sexually), why engage in it? Why chase non-committal guys, get used up, and then lose precious time over them while missing the opportunity to settle down because you’re too old and too used and abused?
For men wasting all your 20s and 30s on pussy and not seriously focusing on your career is a bad decision. If you focus on your career in your 20s and early 30s, by the time you’re most attractive to women – your mid 30s – you become prime property.
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Guys, take a look:
http://judgybitch.com/2013/03/18/why-dont-we-have-a-dumb-fucking-whore-registry-now-that-would-be-justice/comment-page-1/
On an unrelated topic, but same site:
http://judgybitch.com/2012/11/12/sluts-lower-the-value-of-all-women-heres-how-to-compete-with-them/
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First link: Yup, typical false rape accusation.
Second link: She definitely has some great girl-game, although it works better on betas and tradcon alphas.
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A request for the great minds of the Chateau: Can you please solve the mystery contained at the link below, before are glorious government spends another $1.5 million of our tax dollars. Your help is greatly appreciated.
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/feds-spend-15-million-study-why-lesbians-are-fat
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lmfao…I’ll give it a shot.
Gender-Sexuality Fatness Objectified by Men Fatness
Demographic Rational
Homo Women NO NO MAXIMUM
Hetero Women maybe yes Moderate
Hetero Men yes NO Moderate
Homo Men yes yes minimum
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Lost the spacing above. Was trying to make a table, four columns, one header row and four data rows:
Gender-Sexuality Demog’ic/Fatness Rational/Objectified by Men/Fatness
Homo Women/NO/NO/MAXIMUM
Hetero Women/maybe/yes/Moderate
Hetero Men/yes/NO/Moderate
Homo Men/yes/yes/minimum
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1) Women have a much lower concern for how a person looks in order to mate with them.
On the opposite end, gay men pay extraordinary attention to how they look, because the male sex drive is centered on looks. In an article I read once, one gay man described his going to a gay beach for the first time as completely disheartening, because it showed him EXACTLY where on the fag-SMP he stood—and thus what he could not have, purely based on his beach body. Gays and lesbians track their genders deep, instinctive sexual desires.
Lesbians, however, especially the more butch ones, tend to heavily brag about their “accomplishments” (softball championships, promotions), almost in aprdoy of most male bragging, because women value accomplishments and social alphaness, not bodies, more
One hilarious thing you may encounter in fag-friendly cities is the total butch lesbian with her wispy, femme, switching-sides gf. If she encounters you and perceives you as a threat, butch will try to put you down and insult you to yourface (and, if drunk, challenge you to a fight), all because she is frightened of losing her girl to you It will have nothing to do as to how good looking you are and everything to do with your demonstrated game.
The bst thing to do here is to laugh at them openly. Nothing hurts a butch, or a black, for that matter, more than knowing you don’t consider them a serious social road bump. Most of their social power comes from a tacit agreement to pretend that dykes and blacks are equals to civilized me. They are massively insecure about this, knowing the opposite to be true. Mocking them in public and laughing them down destroys about 80-90% of their social power. It’s the Emperor’s New Clothes all over again.
2) In addition, most lesbians are lesbian because they have a massive fear/insecurity about sex, hence all their harping about “rape” (RAPE!) and attacks on males and maleness. They insulate themselves from sexual attention (which frightens them) by becoming physically repulsive.
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Lesbians, however, especially the more butch ones, tend to heavily brag about their “accomplishments” (softball championships, promotions), almost in aprdoy of most male bragging, because women value accomplishments and social alphaness, not bodies, more
Hence, why most feminist revolutionaries have been dykes.
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And also with extreme mental diseases—e.g. Betty Freidan clearly had schizophrenia/personality disorder. Demand for homosexual openness goes hand in hand with other mental deficiencies.
This is why leftists always seek to control the psychiatry/psychology areas when they take over. They redefine away all of the mental problems they have so that people are unable to even say they ARE mentally diseased. Orwell, etc.
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Demand for homosexual openness goes hand in hand with other mental deficiencies.
Oh wait, I thought the APA ruled that homos are NOT batshit insane back in the 1970s. You mean traditional knowledge may actually make sense?
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I don’t know whether to laugh at that or cry at that.
Here’s the really quite obvious answer:
Men value looks in a partner more than women, ergo:
Gay men are in better shape and dress better than hetero men, because they are trying to attract the more visual male species.
Hetero women are in better shape and dress better than gay women, because they too are trying to attract the more visual male species.
Then, just factor in the fact that women are naturally fatter than men (testosterone makes you burn fat and gain muscle) and viola!!!
Lesbians are the fattest, gay men are the thinnest.
Can I have my $1.5 million now please?
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Females do not have a path of least resistance to sex.
Being female is the path of least resistance to sex.
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CH, I’m dying to hear your response to the current surfacing of our media’s rape culture: http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/03/18/1732701/media-steubenville/?fb_action_ids=10100616122462673&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=%7B%2210100616122462673%22%3A389439947819998%7D&action_type_map=%7B%2210100616122462673%22%3A%22og.likes%22%7D&action_ref_map=%5B%5D&mobile=nc
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drunk girl hooks up, regrets it, cries rape. yawn.
Their blunder was videotaping it and distributing it. If she could have gotten fucked and had her reputation untarnished, then not a single rape accusation would have been seen.
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True. The feminist outcry on this one seems especially strong though.
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Because it involved
1. A po-dunk town in a white area.
and
2. A football team.
I think you’ll see the so-called “oppresser” classes in there.
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“If she could have gotten fucked and had her reputation untarnished, then not a single rape accusation would have been seen.”
Exactly this.
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“Why would it occur to anyone to ban WOMEN from voting? Why not ban people with blue eyes? Or people with protruding bellybuttons?”
Revolutions occur when the benefits of power are distributed in a manner incommensurate with the genesis of power.
You can think of it as a market inefficiency. There will always be a correction, and how bloody the correction will be determined by just how incommensurate the distribution was.
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When you let non-shareholders vote, shit goes bad(ly).
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“Those MGTOWs and tradcons who argue that the best feeling of reward men get is from making money and being one’s own man, are simply wrong. The best feeling men get is from sex, or even a promise of sex, with attractive, young women. The Christmas tree lights of neural imaging results don’t lie.”
Yup. All the money and power in the world doesn’t mean fuck-all next to the biological validation of sex with an attractive women. Of course, if you don’t have access to a repository of beautiful women then self-growth and self-improvement is the next best thing (but still a poor replacement). I say this as someone who has gone the way of the Alpha yet still hasn’t been laid in months. I may be constantly improving but I’m still just a chump next to that guy over there with a rotation of fuckbuddies. And so it goes.
A lot of it is location too. Alpha in NYC = laid every day. Alpha in suburban Connecticut = alone forever. C’est la vie.
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Ha, it’s funny to read this because one of my old fuckbuddies moved to Connecticut for a year…and didn’t then get laid for the whole time she was there.
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The Rules writers are back at it, giving more bad advice to girls. There have been girls who I would’ve given a chance, but they did these kinds of things and snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
http://yahoo.match.com/y/article.aspx?articleid=13271&TrackingID=526103&BannerID=1430188
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“The Rules” ideas themselves actually weren’t that bad—they were merely a harkening back to a former era where most females weren’t sluts/participating in bestiality. The Rules were more of a Kantian idea—if every woman had followed them from the beginning,, society would be much better off, since we’d have a lot more women to respect, a lot more happy betas (since they’d get non-slutty women who acted like ladies and were loyal to them), and a lot less raping in court.
However the Rules authors came off as conniving, feminazis bitches trying to have their cake and eat it, too. Women often took up “The Rules” after skanking about and not apologizing for it—like a sed-up 30 year old suddenly waiting 3 dates because her newest guy was a beta.
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I think their advice is good. Its very easy to be a Rules girl with men you don’t like or before you get attached to someone. It does get harder to be one the more you like someone.
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Lmfao. I can’t, I just can’t.
Q: How has the dating world changed since your original best seller came out in 1995, and how do these changes complicate a woman’s desire to find a great man and settle down today?
Ellen: [..] Texting, Facebook, instant-messaging services, FaceTime, Skype, Twitter and other new technology tools have made being mysterious much more difficult. Women in 2013 are virtually transparent and accessible to men 24/7. Many young women sleep with their phones next to the bed and respond immediately to every text
Would you like some fries with that hamster?
But alas my favorite:
Q. What’s the biggest dating mistake that men make today?
Sherrie: Most guys don’t make dating mistakes. They chase the women they want, and ignore the ones they don’t want. But it wouldn’t hurt to open a car door for a lady…
Even the betas are scratching their heads going “……that doesn’t sound right”
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Maybe sex will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no sex.
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Fuck American chicks and then dump them. And if they try to hit you with a false rape accusation or any such nonsense, BLOW THEM AWAY!
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if a chick tells you something like “are you following me?” is this a shit test or a warning to stay away and keep the distance? if it’s shit test, how would you respond?
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Shit test. If you act all guilty, she’ll land on you like a ton of bricks. If you hold your frame and like a dick just briefly state you’re not, you’ll be fine.
Also, work on your aloof body language.
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She’s set up a frame where by you are literally chasing her, it’s imperative that you annihilate such a frame immediately. You must NOT act defensive and deny it. It’s also important not to use too many words in a response, as this looks defensive. And you must absolutely NOT offer her an explanation, again this is defensive.
Instead of acting defensive, flip the script and accuse her of being paranoid, or of having a weird stalker fantasy.
examples:
“Are you always this paranoid?” – Simple, does the job
*Look grossed out by her strange fetish* “Don’t drag me into you depraved fantasies!”
There’s many ways you could respond, there’s no one right choice here, different ones work for different people on different girls.
Ultimately your words matter very little with women, and as a rule of thumb, less words is normally better. It’s more about your body language, composure, facial expressions and tone of voice and what it all sub communicates. In fact I’d say one of the biggest mistakes guys make when they try it on with women is putting too much attention into the words they say. Never say with words what you can say with a look/gesture.
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CREAM. women will never be the priority of my life.
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I am nearing 50 and, having had more than my share of pussy over the years, I think I would favor the dough at this point.
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Great post.
Just one part I don’t get:”It also implies that beautiful women who don’t need or want to use their sexuality to curry favor with men will be more aggressive about screening for men who can provide for them, or who signal potential that they can provide for them.”
I don’t follow the reasoning/causal link between the study and this implied conclusion.
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Don’t bother, I think I’ve got it now. Women know instinctively that men prefer easy sex over making money. They sense that men going for easy sex…aaaaagggggghhhhhhh. Forget it, I still need to think about this one.
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I think the reason most men will choose women over money is simply because in their minds women are more unattainable.
I’d choose the money even in this recession.
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This is just a test of man’s instinctive desire for short term over long term reward.
I the short term, sex with the woman is the instinctive good. However, in the long term, the money would serve better—it could be invested, used to pay down debt, or used to buy drinks for a more quality girl/hotter girl and get her sex, or perhaps sex with more than one woman.
Instinctively, and in limited tests, we take the short term reward. However, for civilized men, in the real world, we control our instincts and make more rational decisions—we would take the large lump sum in order to build a better life and have more quality/hotter/more women.
But we only suppress that instinct for short-term gain when we perceive that long term investment is a better strategy. We don’t molest the drunk chick at the party because we perceive dire consequences for it later on that are ultimately destructive; we stay in he ngiht before a test because, whilst pARTYING MAY BE FUN, the good grades are perceived to be a long term winner.
But this only happens in situations where civilized men perceive a greater reward for suppressing the instinct. I would bet that, in this Obama age, more and more men abandon their long-term planning parts of their brain and wholly succumb to short-term pleasures, because society is fucked and long term plannign is for suckers and those who want to get raped later (hence why, in bad economic/leftist times, more people become alcoholics and drug users and frequent hookers).
Blacks, being uncivilized sub-humans, need to be taken out of these studies. Then the true measure of how civilized men react can be measured.
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Scientifically, you know what I chooose?
RAPE!
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ex chick calls me today surprise surprize
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ex chick calls me today
—So she’s a man now, baby?
RAPE!
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naa but I did have to check if my dick worked
when I couldn’t fuck this other hot chick that been working at getting me in worse way
i’ll admit it I broke down and was ready to hit it once
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“Women will go for a man’s emotional commitment EVERY TIME if said man makes it easy for them.”
Every. Single. Time. Don’t ever feel bad about being a player; women play this game ruthlessly. Never forget that
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yea they do
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http://www.larspenke.eu/pdfs/Asendorpf_Penke_Back_2011_-_Speed_dating_mating_relating.pdf
From Dating to Mating and Relating: Predictors of Initial and Long-Term
Outcomes of Speed-Dating in a Community Sample
“Unexpected was that sociosexuality emerged as a relative powerful predictor of men’s popularity to women, particularly because women largely expressed a long-term mating interest. A possible explanation is that that male sociosexuality indicates a history of successful mating experience or mating skills that are attractive to women. Similarly, shyness showed the expected negative effect on popularity only for men, which might be explained by the traditional male sex role, which requires them to behave more active and proceptive in initial encounters with potential mates and is likely particularly difficult for shy men.”
Dude also has a lot of other good studies on his page.
http://www.larspenke.eu/en/publications.html
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“Dude also has a lot of other good studies on his page.
http://www.larspenke.eu/en/publications.html”
i.e.
http://www.larspenke.eu/pdfs/Back_Penke_Schmuckle_Asendorpf_2011_-_Mate_value_accuracy.pdf
Knowing Your Own Mate Value: Sex-Specific Personality Effects on the Accuracy of Expected Mate Choices
“In line with evolutionarily informed hypotheses, results indicated that sociosexually unrestricted men and more agreeable women showed greater mate-value accuracy than sociosexually restricted men and less agreeable women, respectively. These results have important implications for understanding mating behavior and perhaps the origin of sex differences in personality.”
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Again from
http://www.larspenke.eu/pdfs/Asendorpf_Penke_Back_2011_-_Speed_dating_mating_relating.pdf
From Dating to Mating and Relating: Predictors of Initial and Long-Term
Outcomes of Speed-Dating in a Community Sample
(In short: popular people including men are more choosy.)
“Our data confirmed the expected positive correlation between choosiness and popularity (negative individual reciprocity in the terminology of the SRM), but significantly only for men. Luo and Zhang (2009) also found positive,
though non-significant correlations for both men and women, possibly due to their small sample. Eastwick et al. (2007) reported negative individual reciprocities for ratings of romantic interest and ‘good chemistry’. Together with our finding that the predictions of actor and partner effects by
individual attributes were mostly opposite in sign (see Table 3), we conclude that there is evidence for a positive correlation between choosiness and popularity. This is in line with mating market models, where highly popular people are predicted to be more careful in their choices and unpopular people are predicted to be more indiscriminative (Penke et al., 2007).”
and
(In short: Older women are less choosy.)
“Strong evidence was found for the predicted interaction between age and sex for choosiness: The higher choosiness of women that is ubiquitous in studies of young adults decreased and even tended to reverse for older women. This is an important finding, because evolutionary accounts often
assume a generally higher choosiness of the sex that invests more in offspring (females in most species; Trivers, 1972). It is interesting that Trivers’s parental investment model is based on a reproductive argument that does not apply to women that have reached menopause. Our expectation was based on context-dependent mating strategies (Gangestad & Simpson, 2000), and our results confirm that life history phases (e.g. reproductive vs. post-reproductive) provide an important context that affects human mating behaviour. However, studies of dating in older adults are scarce, so our finding awaits replication.”
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yes yes, you are all atheists here but, since I’ve been told today is St. Joseph’s feast day, I thought I’d pass on this little piece of science that doesn’t get as much play:
“We know Joseph was a compassionate, caring man. When he discovered Mary was pregnant after they had been betrothed, he knew the child was not his but was as yet unaware that she was carrying the Son of God. He planned to divorce Mary according to the law but he was concerned for her suffering and safety. He knew that women accused to adultery could be stoned to death, so he decided to divorce her quietly and not expose her to shame or cruelty (Matthew 1:19-25).”
So, no beta of the month here, it took God asking him, through an angel, to keep his wife, after he thought she cheated on him.
“We know Joseph was man of faith, obedient to whatever God asked of him without knowing the outcome. When the angel came to Joseph in a dream and told him the truth about the child Mary was carrying, Joseph immediately and without question or concern for gossip, took Mary as his wife.”
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Wow, generalize much?
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Re: Putin’s speech. Interesting that that side of the iron curtain did not engage in the useful idiot style, non-western immigration suicide. Why is that? Oh yeah, because the fucking soviet useful idiot traitor’s in the west were told to do so, from ted kennedy to whatever lefties were responsible over there.
see e.g., http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/6418456/Labour-wanted-mass-immigration-to-make-UK-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.html
So, the soviet’s lost the cold war but managed to fatally poison the west.
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holy shit fucking crap it is oneitis cause my dick sure as shit worked on ex chick
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when she said she owned my dick I guess he took her serious
i’m alpha my dick gamma
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she was crying and shit not like sobbing crying but like tears running down her face crying
i’m like you didn’t cover up tat she like I never will I put there cause I wanted it there
talking bout she ain’t fucked nobody in a month
get the fuck out of here although ok the pussy was pretty tight but still
husband called like 80 times lol
I strike fear into the hearts of men he he he
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did the patented jump off the truck leg wrap carried her ass into the gas station
dude like I didn’t think she had any legs hahahahaa
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i’m laying on top of her talking and her pussy turned into a fucking furnace like burning my dick lol
that was hot
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objectively she is not as pretty as the new chick I been hanging with either
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think what i’m gonna have to do is have them both come over that’s got to be the answer mua mua hahahahhahahahahhahaha
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and she called for me to make 50 bucks he he he
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dam I really don’t know what the fuck to do
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I did tell her that I couldn’t fuck another chick even though I wanted to
course she prob already got told that by my chick buddy why she prob called
chick told you I couldn’t be replaced nobody like me
me yea I knew you couldn’t be replaced easy I don’t fall in love with chicks that easy
she like yea I don’t fall in love easy either and I did fall in love with you
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told her I loved her and always will
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she cried like 6 times trying to go for a record
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I fucker her so hard we were airborne floating like both in the air above the bed shit her attached to my dick and body
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dam the makeup shit is the best
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http://blog.al.com/wire/2013/03/cyprus_may_levy_10_percent_tax.html
Cyprus
yeaaa riiighhttt
ok what we’ll do is go ahead and take 10 percent off the top of your bank account thanks
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“It’s a precedent for all European countries. Their money in every bank is not safe,” said lawyer Simos Angelides.
In order to get €10 billion ($13 billion) in bailout loans from international creditors, Cyprus agreed to take a percentage of all deposits — including ordinary citizens’ savings. The surprise deal stoked fears that deposits in other countries could be targeted.
””””””””””””’
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[…] [Scientific Evidence That Men Will Choose Women Over Money] […]
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Why did they need a study for this conclusion? Didn’t they know men pay for hookers and porn?
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Dave Chapelle said it best: “If men could fuck women by owning a cardboard box, then they would own a cardboard box.”
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Hot. The “wantonly” and “profligately” thrown in keeps it from feeling too smutty. Someone at CH needs to write a real romance novel.
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Isn’t this how sex should be? If it isn’t, you are doing it wrong.
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In one way, sex is like money. It becomes more important if you don’t have it.
BTW, unmarried childless women get up in the morning because they have to pee.
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No, sex is like air, it is no big deal, unless you aren’t getting any.
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Quick! Give me a hit from your oxygen tank!
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Is that what they call it now?
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Yes 🙂 And you just gave me a comment hug 🙂
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@YaReally (unable to respond directly to your post for WordPress nesting limiations)
I try to be polite with you because, believe it or not, in some fucked up way, I actually care about you.
““Not everyone who reads these blogs suffers from major deficiencies in this particular space””
“I get what you’re saying, and when I give advice to friends in real life I couch it in all sorts of digestible polite ways.”
So we’re on the same page, as far as that goes.
“But on here I’m just info-dumping for the hard-cases”
Understand.
“because I was a hard-case and I would’ve stumbled across this site if it had existed back in the day and bullshit like:
A man chasing tail while putting his career on the backburner, is like a man who drinks at the expense of his health. He gives off a sense of weakness and loserishness.”
Agree, it’s bullshit… and also, not bullshit. If a man is only doing these things, then yes, it’s a waste. If he has a greater goal in mind (as you seem to), then it’s a means to an end.
“and “But the effort they put into it in their 20s pays dividends throughout their lives, because by the time they are in their mid-30s every hot female alive wants to date those guys.””
Again, bullshit and not bullshit. Develop your assets today, reap your rewards tomorrow. Focus all your energy on constructing something “society” will embrace… bend over.
“…is the kind of stuff that would have let me rationalize “oh a GIRL said I’ll be a loser and weak if I chase tail and if I just focus on a good career I’ll have every hot female alive wanting to date me, so I’m going to focus on my career instead of chasing tail!” and gone another 10 years as a virgin wondering why girls don’t want to even date me, let alone touch my cock, “
I admit, I don’t realate in any way to most of the commenters in this community. I’ve never been shit on by women in this way. To read the infinite accounts of it has been truly heart-wrenching and eye-opening to me, to the extent that I brutally call bitches out on it when I see them doing it to other men. I’m probably an outlier in the sense that I go to battle for guys who aren’t quite there yet, even though it accrues no benefits to me; I do it out of an an innate sense of fairness and justice. Growing up, I was always the guy that brought the “uncool” kids into the “cool” kids sphere and championed them for the value of their assets (musicianship, business acumen, creativity, etc.); at the same time, never yielding to the “cool” kids’ frame of themselves. I crossed all barriers: cool, jock, artist, immigrant. If I saw something of value in another kid, I forced the cool click to acknowledge that value.
“Most women and a lot of guys who were never really socially inept don’t understand how damaging a lot of these little shitty mindsets and beliefs people brainwash men with can be.”
Here, we agree 100%, and it took this community for me to realize that.
“Like this dude’s account is what a *TON* of men (including myself) have gone through or are going through:
http://whoism3.wordpress.com/2012/11/17/confessions-of-a-reformed-incel/”
Yeah, major empathy, but unable to relate.
“These are the guys I’m tailoring my message for, the guys who have their life mostly together will do just fine in life if they skip over my comments, I don’t really care if I reach out to them or not.”
I hear you, but here’s the deal: you’re putting your arguments into the public sphere. If you want your message to positively impact the most possible men, you must understand that you’re not exclusively communicating with people that have the same experience as you. You are attempting to LEAD, and that’s awesome. To lead is to understand the terrain and the logistical supply lines. To neglect that part of your role gives rise to assholes like me. That is easily circumvented with a bit of forethought and consideration for the larger cast of players. Believe it or not, YaReally, I root for you.
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Scientific Evidence That Men Will Choose Women Over Money
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(Except when they don’t):
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Do a test like this with the other gender, give one of the pictures are huge cocks and the others are cactuses.
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