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North Korea

April 11, 2013 by CH

Perhaps I’m overly sensible, but why exactly does the US need to get involved defending South Korea from an attack by North Korea? Would your life appreciably change for the worse if those two duked it out on their own terms?

Last I checked, South Koreans hated America, and protests against our military presence there are a regular occurrence. It used to be the Code of the Tribe that when another tribe ostensibly under your tribe’s umbrella of protection hates the living fuck out of you and your kind, you at the least stop protecting them if no natural resource they own and which you use is in danger of mass disruption.

Given the anti-white male animus that percolates like boiling magma through every corridor of the Cathedral, it’s a wonder there are white men left willing to fight for the US of Majority-Minority. I’d call them fools if I didn’t think there’s still a chance they might see the light one day. And by “see the light”…

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  1. on April 11, 2013 at 10:30 am Love's Orphan

    Many of the MMORPG servers and developers are in South Korea. We need to protect the entertainment! Besides, I want a Samsung Galaxy S7.

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    • on April 12, 2013 at 11:43 am Ichi

      also what are you talking about? some few anti americans don’t reflect the whole people, most south koreans are ok with america, United States wants Korea to grow stronger and more powerful with more people, in case they absorb and fusion the north, also if the north wins what the south made would be a waste, they can’t protect themselves of course they need United States, Korea is the country of Samsung and Psy

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  2. on April 11, 2013 at 10:30 am Jack@Hotmail.com

    Why do we need to care? Need to stop the Chinesse from spreading Communism. Dictarships and commies tend to start lots of wars and at times are rather eratic.

    Reference, World War II, Wolrd War I…..and the Japanse Emperlistic nightmare.

    The real question you should be asking is why Truman was such a pussy and didnt’ let McArthur make the place a fucking parking lot in the 1950’s. The only reason the DMZ exists is because Truman sided with the Chinesse and told McArthur to stop at the 38th parallel and not move any farther north.

    I bet Truman was a beta. Eisenhower was the Alpha.

    Whatever it was, we got some nimrod in the north who lives in a sea of famine and can’t even keep the lights on fucking with an entire hemisphere.

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 11:16 am Jay

      2013 called. It wants to know how you’re still alive at age 95. Real “commies” are done spreading. Go to sleep.

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 12:50 pm Man

        Lololololz

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 1:40 pm JironGhrad

        Yeah! Today they’re called Socialists and “Progressives”. Get with the times already.

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 1:52 pm Jay

        So we need to fight China to stop the spread of Chinese Progressives?

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      • on April 15, 2013 at 2:51 pm Glengarry

        Which side is the commies again?

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 6:04 pm RyanS

        Exactly. This Cold War logic is BS – China isn’t interested in spreading by military force. And if they did, they would be spreading capitalism

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 1:08 pm General Leslie Graves

      The strategic US thinking at the time of the Korean invasion was that it was a feint and that the real threat to US interests was from the Russians in Europe. We didn’t want to spread our reserves too thin and Europe was vastly more important to us than South Korea. Ever play “Risk”?

      Why didn’t we go nuclear? One – our inventory of weapons and production rate capacity were both very low. We would be like Biden’s double barrel shot gun – shoot your wade and then the Commies say “Is that all you got?”

      Second, nukes at that time wouldn’t have been all that effective. The biggest we had in 1950 was maybe 40 kT or twice the Hiroshima/Nagasaki power (and effects scale as 2/3 power function) although we had 100 kT by war’s end. Weaponized H-bombs were a few years off.

      Targets were we could use a nuke as a battlefield weapon were few and far between – plus we had little tactical doctrine on how to use them – Davey Crocketts were also years away.

      So I think Truman made the right calls under the circumstances although Dewey might have handled MacArthur better.

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 3:42 pm slumlord

        Curt Le May disagrees with you.

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 5:14 pm General Leslie Groves

        Good point – I realized after I commented that I should have signed on as Le May. Groves was long out of the loop by 1950.

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 8:23 pm gramps

      I think you need to read the history of the Korean war. The Chinese defeated the US army which had invaded North Korea. They lost a million men, but, hey, no problem.

      Eisenhower ended that war. He was smart.

      And, yes, it amazes me that we defend South Korea today. It just shows the power of stupidity and habit.

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  3. on April 11, 2013 at 10:33 am Zatarra

    All we act as is a deterrent. All the deterrence has done is allow for 50 years of bullshit. South Korea could defend itself and likely destroy North Korea– and if they can’t it is only because they know the US will back them and consequently haven’t built a military.

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 10:56 am itsme

      haven’t built a military? both koreas have two of the largest militaries in the world.

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 7:50 pm Drama

        Two Koreas enter, one Korea leaves. Welcome to Thunderdome!

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    • on April 12, 2013 at 5:06 pm SLDFJSD

      It’s like they say about Japan, they’ll defend themselves to the last American soldier.

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  4. on April 11, 2013 at 10:33 am JM

    Your country is based on its ability on printing money and not hyper-inflate. You can do it because dollar is the universal currency for global trade. You keep it this way by projecting power anywhere anytime. And when the need to project power comes, you need to be able to do it.

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 11:20 am C

      this.

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 11:22 am Hugh G. Rection

      Being the largest economy in the world also helps.

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 11:31 am Kate

      http://dogdesert.wordpress.com/2013/04/02/wake-up-people/#comments

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 11:45 am eyeslevel

      Why you guys keep taking our debt paper when it can’t possibly be paid back at full value? Seems like you could defund our military tomorrow if you wanted to.

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  5. on April 11, 2013 at 10:35 am Nyk

    You know you’re truly an alpha when you are perceived as a God by 12 million+ females and have the power to send the few girls who might refuse to have sex with you to the gulag.

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 10:53 am askjoe

      Hitchens pointed out that the Midget Kingdom has been programmed into some very hate-filled crazy asses. They are moar racist than South Ko, and actually think they can kick our asses. Speaking of SouthKo racism, Hines Ward can tell you that they hate all kinds of americans, but some types even more. Yet here we are.

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  6. on April 11, 2013 at 10:37 am saint of killers

    …south korea may be stupid…but north korea is inhumane, evil…if we don’t defend them…who will…

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 10:50 am tilikum

      ugh, no such thing as evil. It’s all about people trying to get laid. you must be new here.

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 11:00 am saint of killers

        …facilitating the mass starvation of your population…that’s called evil…whether it gets you laid or not…

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 12:52 pm Man

        Drag Anyone under by their ponytail today?

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  7. on April 11, 2013 at 10:37 am NightHawk

    Would the US be comfortable without a war to fight, or without a conflict on the horizon they could get involved with? I’m no history major, but when was the last time the US wasn’t involved in some sort of conflict?… WW2, Cold War, Korean War, Vietnam, Gulf War 1+2, Afghan…

    South Korea have long treated North Korean rhetoric with indifference, the noisy neighbour to be put up with. The US needed to take a page out of their book. It’s all hot air.

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 10:51 am tilikum

      beta follower population control bro.

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 7:58 pm Commodus

        You forgot WWI, the Spanish-American War, the conflicts with Indian tribes, the Civil War, the Mexican-American War, the War of 1812, the War for Independence, the French and Indian War, more conflicts with the Indians…..what did I forget?

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 10:23 pm gunslingergregi

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 10:23 pm gunslingergregi

        drug war latin america

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      • on April 12, 2013 at 6:56 am NightHawk

        There we go then. The defence contractors, arms manufacturers need to be kept in business some how. Perhaps it would never be in the US Government’s interest for the world to ever be at peace. The public becomes easier to control, legislation gets passed easier when there under shadows of hypothetical threat…

        The War Machine is to great and vast to ever slow down.

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 12:00 pm corvinus

      South Korea have long treated North Korean rhetoric with indifference, the noisy neighbour to be put up with. The US needed to take a page out of their book. It’s all hot air.

      North Korea is a barking dog behind a fence that won’t shut up.

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  8. on April 11, 2013 at 10:38 am Nyk

    South Korea needs to be saved because some of us want phones larger than the squinty 4″ models offered by Apple. And the S-Pen is certainly a welcome addition, I think it is a good move to pull out the S-Pen and actually give it to the girl to write you her number on your phone’s screen.

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 2:50 pm Half Canadian

      The Finns are working their way to oblige you.

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 5:51 pm Modern Primitive

      The japs still make phones, I can handle SK being glassed.

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  9. on April 11, 2013 at 10:41 am Rick Derris

    Barry should grow a pair and tell the Red Chinese it’s their problem and their responsibility to tell Baby So-Ronery to STFU. If the Red Chinese had stayed the f*ck out of the war 60 years ago then the whole peninsula would be churning out phones and guys who spank off to videogame rendered hussies.

    Better yet, send Alec Baldwin and the Film Actors Guild over there to solve it.

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 10:50 am RappaccinisDaughter

      +1 for Team America: World Police reference

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 1:01 pm Rick Derris

        “YOU ARE WORTHRESS, AREC BARDWIN!!!”

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 1:57 pm itsme

      you dick.

      how can you make that reference and not link to a video clip?

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  10. on April 11, 2013 at 10:47 am JayMan

    “Last I checked, South Koreans hated America”

    Here you go:

    Evo and Proud: Year’s end

    😉

    Related

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  11. on April 11, 2013 at 10:50 am askjoe

    A lot of us white males enjoy us some war-murder and that’s why we still join up. I wondered how long that will last when we start going after our own but it seems like local and federal law enforcement paramilitary types have no problem with that. So, we’re fucked by nature.

    Joking aside, I think Mark Steyn pointed out that the two Bushes squandered conservatism by using it for foreign adventurism instead of defending the brand at home. And here we are, we let the commies march through the institutions since at least 1992 and now any vestige of the sources of american greatness are quickly mocked and destroyed by the Cathedral. And our current leadership has pretty much bought into it too.

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  12. on April 11, 2013 at 10:53 am Mike

    Heartiste will be poolside, but we all know GBFM gets all the ladies for his cockas lolzzlolzzz

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  13. on April 11, 2013 at 10:53 am Evan McLaren

    Given the anti-white male animus that percolates like boiling magma through every corridor of the Cathedral, it’s a wonder there are white men left willing to fight for the US of Majority-Minority.

    I pal around with a lot of vets and enlisted, and I wonder that every day.

    The slave mentality is subtle and full-spectrum, and a wonder to behold.

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 11:09 am Bill

      Are there that many whites as a % in the military outside of the officer class? Whenever I see military people around, they are black or foreign mercenaries.

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 11:44 am Vad

        Whites are overrepresented in the military, particualrly in combat fields and really particularly in technical fields. Blacks are mostly cooks and clerks.

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 11:56 am FredMertz

        Black women have the highest percentage of military enlistees. I will leave it to you to figger out why…

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 11:45 am Evan McLaren

        ‘Tis mixed where I am. I’m sure there are stats somewhere.

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 12:07 pm Richard

        No. Whites are in fact overrepresented in the military, contrary to conventional wisdom.
        http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2008/08/who-serves-in-the-us-military-the-demographics-of-enlisted-troops-and-officers

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 12:16 pm Wrecked 'Em

      Both Blacks and Whites are over-represented in the military because Hispanics are under-represented.

      Upper-class whites, especially those from Southern families, are quite over-represented in the Officer Corps.

      Hell, you need a 3-digit IQ to enlist in the Air Force, something which knocks out half the country.

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  14. on April 11, 2013 at 10:56 am Lad

    The US is boogeyman for the North Korean establishment’s propaganda machine. It’s probably as simple as a decision not to get involved.

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  15. on April 11, 2013 at 10:57 am askjoe

    Re: super alpha Southern Comfort. Still awesome. I just wonder about the follow up where he’s just standing at the outdoorbar looking all over the place. still alpha or swing and a miss.

    In case you need more:
    http://www.comfortableweatherguy.com/

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  16. on April 11, 2013 at 11:08 am earl

    I need to watch things die from a good safe distance…vicariously I live while the whole world dies.

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 2:16 pm PM

      Dont fret precious Im here. Step away from the Window.

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 5:57 pm Modern Primitive

        You all need it too, don’t lie.

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  17. on April 11, 2013 at 11:09 am Gracian

    Its not quite so simple as the USA being nosey, hatred of white men, or Obama being a wimp.

    Analogy: North Korea is a schizophrenic homeless man who is always waving a grenade and screaming “I gonna pull the pin and throw this someone!!!”. Meanwhile, all the folks in the neighborhood (US, China, Russia, Japan, South Korea, etc) are NOT quite sure how to deal with the ‘neighborhood schizo’.

    North Korea threatens the global economy. It has the capacity to destroy or cripple some the US’s most important trading partners (Japan, Taiwan, South Korea) and by extension impact the US economy and thereby impact the Chinese economy and thereby DESTROY the global economy.

    Most importantly, the immediate loss of life would be catastrophic. Additionally, the deaths and illness stemming from radiation poisoning in the global air and sea is literally incalculable.

    Google: “”chernobyl human mutations”. Things might get a little more clearer for you.

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 12:02 pm corvinus

      It has the capacity to destroy or cripple some the US’s most important trading partners (Japan, Taiwan, South Korea) and by extension impact the US economy and thereby impact the Chinese economy and thereby DESTROY the global economy.

      Actually, if NK nuked those countries and wrecked their manufacturing, it would force us to make our own stuff once again and bring down our trade deficit.

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 12:10 pm Gracian

        And we would all eventually die due to direct (wind) and indirect (fauna and flora) exposure.

        So, “making our own stuff” would be least of our concerns.

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 12:26 pm Wrecked 'Em

        VERIFIABLE deaths due to Chernobyl: 62. Not eleventy-gazillion and 62, just 62.

        Long-term increase in the cancer rates in the area around Chernobyl: 2%. Farther afield than about 300Km… down to nearly 0%.

        A puny little Nork Nuke going off would cause a lot less damage, especially downwind in Japan and the US, but it would be a lot less than your melodramatic claim.

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 2:13 pm Hiram J Goldstein II (@HiramJGoldstein)

        Yeah, and if the grocery store burned to the ground, you’d be forced to quit your job and grow food instead. Wouldn’t make you better off, though.

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 4:27 pm corvinus

        We’re the ones who supply them with food, and they sell us more expensive manufactured goods. In other words, we’re in the exact same trading relationship the British tried to impose on us to keep us poor and underdeveloped, before we rebelled.

        Idiot.

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 1:26 pm General Leslie Graves

      Oh pleaze!

      “the deaths and illness stemming from radiation poisoning in the global air and sea is literally incalculable.”

      Bunk. A 20 kT ground burst loses a lot of general area destruction but does spread LOCAL fallout. It would be bad at the GZ and could kill as far out as 100 miles in a very narrow pencil-shaped stripe, depending on the winds. It is doubtful that the NoKos can even do 20kT and they have damn few at that.

      Now, during the Cold War the US has 25 MT war loads on Titan II missile and on B-52s just for bunker busting duty and for Russian missile silos. Enough of those and regional fallout would be fatal but globally dangerous? No..

      The best nuclear story I’ve heard about the NoKo – their dirty bomb they sold Hamas.

      Remember the ship the Somali pirates captured where the pirates started dropping dead from “a mystery illness”? The ship was loaded with reprocessing waste from the NoKo’s fuel reprocessing and was headed for the coast off Israel, there to be exploded into dust when the wind was right to cover Israel.

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 7:31 pm Anonymous

        What if they were to nuke fukushima reactors that are already weak from the tsunami? When it first hit they projected the fallout from a catastrophic meltdown would spread radiation all the way to Colorado over the course of 3 days. I’m not sure of the exact affect of a nuke on a reactor is however unless it somehow dispersed the radiation, as the initial storm blowing the fallout of fukushima south away from tokyo, it could possibly render California (one of the largest economies in the world) a waste land iirc.

        This however doesn’t alter the fact that yes most Koreans are uber racist xenophobes with an irritating mix of industrialized China corruption and Japanese reservations. The only true attack the N. Koreans have is in the domino reactions of their first shot. They could crush maybe Seoul and then it’s complete and total destruction. The status quo most likely beats whatever benefit may be derived from access to NK otherwise we’d have found an excuse to fight them already.

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      • on April 12, 2013 at 1:56 pm General Lesile Graves

        Frankly, you have no idea of which you speak. California is NOT at risk – there’s thousands of miles of ocean and bad weather between Korea/Japan and the US West Coast.

        Why waste a precious nuke on a ruined power plant when Tokyo has millions of people?

        The release and transport of nuclear materials from a reactor accident or a nuclear explosion is vastly over-estimated in the popular mind. Decades of fear-mongering has been the cause. Do some research before you spout off in public on topics that you are ignorant of

        First read “The Effects of Nuclear Weapons” by Glasstone. The NRC has radioactive dispersal and dose studies on their website on nuclear accidents.

        “A lie can go around the world before the truth can put on its boots.” – Mark Twain.

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 6:20 pm RyanS

      They don’t have the capability to “destroy” anyone. To cause damage, yes. But if they did they’d be utterly smashed by the resulting war. The biggest danger is making them feel like they have nothing to lose, which is what provoking them will do

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  18. on April 11, 2013 at 11:13 am The Man Who Was . . .

    Basically, the U.S. is signalling to other countries around the world:
    http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2013/04/why-the-u-s-helps-defend-south-korea-and-what-can-go-wrong.html

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  19. on April 11, 2013 at 11:15 am NightHawk

    It’s all about the disputed islands and the security of future oil supplies in the region. Not really North Korea vs South Korea, but China vs anyone else in the region. China has absolute control over North Korea. This conflict is just a prelude to an energy grab by China in the region to ensure their expansion in the decades to come.

    North Korea is just their attack dog. China are pulling the strings. Hence why the US is more willing to get involved than if it was just a dispute between two-pint sized nations, with nothing to gain from the ground underneath.

    The US won’t be the world’s foremost Super Power forever. Empires rise and fall, but it isn’t going to let up-and-comers take the crown without a fight.

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  20. on April 11, 2013 at 11:21 am Enlightened Indian Guy

    Dating Advice From Women is Like Money Management Tips from a Stock Broker
    http://www.theatheistindian.com/dating/dating-advice-from-women

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  21. on April 11, 2013 at 11:21 am ees

    it’s not about Korea its about China.

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  22. on April 11, 2013 at 11:30 am late late late bloomer

    anybody young enough to be acquainted with this swug shit?

    http://nymag.com/thecut/2013/04/meet-the-swugs-of-yale-women-washed-up-at-21.html

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 11:59 am santa666

      Wow, if I’m reading that right, these chicks are saying feminism has moved the wall UP about five years, not back. Feminism has ruined women’s social capital.

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 12:23 pm Georgia Boy

      First world rich white female Ivy league daddy’s little princess problems. They’re the ones who grow up to be Slate/HuffPo/NYTimes columnists.

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 12:31 pm Wrecked 'Em

      Todays “adults” are 15 years “older” than their parents were at the same age. Or, so says the Telegraph, anyway.

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9984596/Todays-adults-15-years-older-than-parents.html

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  23. on April 11, 2013 at 11:33 am Anonymous

    Amusing how even Psy, the dude behind Gangban style is anti-American…until of course when he gets American money then he quickly changed his mind

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  24. on April 11, 2013 at 11:33 am mindstar

    Tend to doubt there will be a war because (A) North Korea will be utterly destroyed; (B) The South would still suffer heavy casualties. Estimates are north of 100,000 KIA and hundreds of billions in damages. If we don’t honor our commitment to an ally of 50 years why would any other country trust us? The North is doing this to try to get more aid and concessions from the West. Look for a missile launch by North Korea on or about April 15th to further rattle the world.

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 11:46 am askjoe

      yeah, the “war” would basically be Norks shelling SoKor’s cities until we can kill all the Nork’s firing weapons. Oh, that and Norks spilling out of tunnels into SoKor to do God knows what.

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 1:18 pm Taco

      “North of 100,000” hahahaha.
      Civilian casualties would be far, far, far north of 100,000.

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 1:34 pm askjoe

        And of course, Obama would blame bush

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 7:58 pm Drama

      What do 100,000 economical Korean cars have to do with it?

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  25. on April 11, 2013 at 11:35 am Imbroglio Bergoglio

    I fully concur. Any white male who volunteers for the armed forces in a day when he will come back to nothing (that is, if he comes back at all) after his tour of duty is over needs some serious mental evaluation.

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  26. on April 11, 2013 at 11:42 am JS

    Why are we still defending Germany and Japan too? The top economies in the world who get that way by not having to shell out for their own defense.

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 11:44 am C

      that’s the price of dominating them.

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  27. on April 11, 2013 at 11:48 am yebejudged

    General MacArthur would have solved this half a century ago. Bitch ass Truman.

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 12:04 pm Alexander

      It ended well. It could have been a nuclear war.
      Your country is concerned with Korea, since it is located in the second economically active region of the world… Nuff said.

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 12:55 pm whorefinder

        It ended well
        —No, it did not. North Korea is threatening Soul with nukes, the commies in China are still around.

        WW3 would have been preferable to the shit today.

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 1:01 pm Alexander

        Dude, in case of nuclear war, the question is – Would USA be around?

        P.S laugh that Korean nuclear shit off. They are attention whores.

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 1:04 pm whorefinder

        Dude, in case of nuclear war, the question is – Would USA be around?
        —If you seriously think that if MacArthur had gone in, the US would have been nuked out of existence, I got no hope for ya.

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 1:49 pm Alexander

        If you seriously don’t know that he targeted Soviet bases, than we have nothing to disscus…

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 12:28 pm whorefinder

      As always, Rodney Dangerfield’s take on MacArthur and Truman kicks the most ass:

      Sam Kinison (teacher): “How come we didn’t cross the3 9th parallel…and push those rice-eaters back to the Great Wall of China…and take it apart brick by brick…and nuke them back intothe fuckin’ stone age forever? How come? Tell me?Why? Say it! Say it!”

      Rodney Dangerfield (student): “All right, I’ll say it. ‘Cause Truman was too much of a pussy whimp to let Mccarther in there and blow out those commie bastards!”

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 8:43 pm Canadian Friend

        On one hand Truman was not a total beta, he dropped two nuclear bombs on Japan.
        He has my respect for that.

        but on the other (based on a PBS documentary I saw a couple years ago) with his wife he was a beta. She gave him the cold shoulder and he was begging for her love. She never appreciated him. He was President of the most succesfull nation in the history of the word but she made him feel small.

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  28. on April 11, 2013 at 11:50 am Anonymous

    “Perhaps I’m overly sensible, but why exactly does the US need to get involved defending South Korea from an attack by North Korea?”

    NK is directly threatening U.S. territory, and actively seeking weapons which will expand their reach and threat. It’s not just about NK/SK.

    Also: a handful of stupid, loud, unemployed and therefore constantly protesting liberal protesters does not a majority opinion make. In national polling SK overwhelmingly favors and supports the U.S. Should we abandon a treaty made in good faith because a minority group doesn’t like us?

    Nothing is going to happen any way. NK’s posturing is classic little man syndrome. They know what will happen to them if they dare attack.

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 1:43 pm Crank

      Exactly what are we provided in this alleged “treaty”? Also, what makes it perpetual?

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 2:31 pm Heywood Jablome

      In national polling SK overwhelmingly favors and supports the U.S.

      Do tell. Link?

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    • on April 12, 2013 at 1:58 pm General Leslie Graves

      General MacArthur had the same problem only worst. He was impotent with his wife and she never let him forget.

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  29. on April 11, 2013 at 11:57 am Philalethes

    Little known (on this side) history of US relations with Korea:
    http://antiwar.com/blog/2013/03/05/north-korea-and-the-united-states-will-the-real-aggressor-please-stand-down

    Turns out poor Korea has been a punching bag for the U.S. Empire since the 1870s! No wonder the North Koreans are a little nutty about it. All that ginseng and kimchee: Koreans are tough and fiery tempered.

    The U.S. has no business there anyway; it’s all about (a) more money for the Military-Industrial Complex, (b) “fern-bar Napoleons at National Review and Commentary” (Fred Reed) who can’t get enough war (so long as they don’t have to fight it), and (c) the terminal insanity of a dying empire that feels insanely compelled to prove its “masculinity” by sending dykes into battle.

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 12:26 pm Alexander

      Why that much fuss about Korea at all?
      Your military has been there since the end of the war in 53′, and yet now you’re asking “why”?

      North Korea can be crushed by South Korea even without your 28 000 soldiers in there.
      What your country needs is a base against China.

      Japan, Phillipines, S.Korea, and Taiwan are the only ones in the region willing to offer the ground for your bases, and voila! indeed all of this countries indeed (except Taiwan, offcourse) have either your troops or military advisors on their teritory, you even tried to lure Kyrgistan into your sphere of influence, (former USSR republic) but that base is now tightly controled by local army as Russia has gained her’s strenght once more.

      Envelopement of China is the goal here.
      Even Vietnam, have good relations with USA. You obviously putted much effort in that one, and it seems that USA is triing really hard to make that envelopement happen.

      You’re not occupiers, you protect yourself, and by doing so you protect them, from China. And they know it. If they didn’t know it, you would have left like you left Iraq, and South Vietnam.

      You’re not occupiers of these countries, since they do have free elections.
      Russians today are not occupiers either, since they learned your school well, now they instigate coups if something goes off the tracks. Don’t self flagelate, you’re good.

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 12:36 pm Wrecked 'Em

        Japan, Philippines, Korea, and especially Vietnam and Taiwan are all friendly towards the US not because the US coerced or enticed them… but rather, because these countries have long memories of the Chinese.

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 3:49 pm cynthia

        This is exactly right (except that the region’s just as scared and resentful of Japan as they are of China – they remember the Co-Prosperity Sphere and the cultural genocide efforts). America’s presence in East Asia keeps the Pacific from going up irradiated flames because we’re the only country they actually trust.

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  30. on April 11, 2013 at 12:00 pm FredMertz

    Any comment on the Accidental Rayciss?

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  31. on April 11, 2013 at 12:04 pm Greatest Beta

    I think its two things:
    Kim Jung the new guy has to make his bones in NK gov. There are probably a bunch of 50 yr old generals vying for his position. All this noise to show them that hes the big shit and not to fuck with him. Also to show the NK people that hes a tough leader.

    The US generals on the other hand make a bunch of noise over this, scare the people, and secure more funding for the war machine. Who loses? US taxpayer funding all this nonsense.

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  32. on April 11, 2013 at 12:05 pm Tyrone

    The best reason to sign up is to learn infantry skills for the coming civil war.

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 1:31 pm General Leslie Graves

      +1

      Darn tooting soldier!

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    • on April 14, 2013 at 9:23 am Ron

      Then join e French Foreign legion. You will be used properly, youll get better training, citizenship, a real pension, etc.

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  33. on April 11, 2013 at 12:12 pm Pole

    We still serve because, really, not too many other places left. Britan is already fem-city and its spreading all across Europe and Europe really needs to get it’s shit together and have a military reform so that it can protect itself properly in the future. Too much trust in the U.N. when history has shown when shit hits the fan the realm divides so the U.N. won’t be of much help to anyone.
    Personally I serve to kill terrorists and stop them dead in their tracks for trying to AMOG me and blow themselves up killing people. I just really hate them. I also want America to remain free and what it was in the 1950s. True, these are dark times and things seem to be getting worse n worse, but I hope people come to their senses and cast out the feminazis and introduce the truly age-old tenants that the manosphere has to offer to offer some balance. Maybe in another 20 years this country won’t be fighting for, but as it is right now, I think so. And I won’t quit just because some shit COULD happen.

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 2:14 pm Jay

      It’s not about the Feminazis. It’s about women in a post-industrial economy.

      Women have never had any appreciation for men’s contributions and sacrifice, nor empathy for men’s plight. They merely view men as a machine that serves them. They’ll subjugate you as much as economics will allow them.

      All of them play on team vaj and they can recruit many of their fathers, brothers, sons, boyfriends, husbands to fight you and each other. They simply express that everything victimizes them, and the white knight button turns on.

      Bad economy: restrict female mobility and keep males as enslaved as possible.
      Good economy: liberate females and keep males as hated as possible.

      No era was good for men.

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 8:50 pm Canadian Friend

        We either die on the battle field for women or we “die” in divorce court…

        yup

        no era was ever good for men

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 6:24 pm RyanS

      Except you aren’t fighting for the country. You are fighting for the military-industrial complex, against people who just want to be left alone

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  34. on April 11, 2013 at 12:16 pm Georgia Boy

    Somebody has to try to keep them from selling nuclear technology around the world.

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 1:00 pm thwack

      EVERY nation with nuclear weapons got them with the help of white people.

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 1:09 pm whorefinder

        lol. Our resident negro shows just how dumb he is: apparently, yellow and brown people, despite being nuclear physicists, can’t make weapons.it’s true whitey invented them, however, good job darky. Ya know, along with discovering how to harness nuclear energy–the thing that will power your TV so you can watch your relatives on Maury.

        But one thing is clear: no black people were smart enough to ever invent or make nuclear weapons. You bone-in-the-nose subhumans are too stupid to master the stapler, let alone the secrets of the atom.

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 1:58 pm Jay

        Black people are not too stupid to master the stapler.

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 9:05 pm Full-Fledged Fiasco

        I second that.

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 2:19 pm thwack

        White people “bought off” nonwhite allies with nuclear technology. Nonwhite people would have produced them anyway; white people simply used their “bribe” while it still had value.

        The secret of the atom bomb was given away when white people detonated one. After that, it was no longer a question of “if”, but ‘How”.

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 3:01 pm Greg Eliot

        That “How?” part is where things get a bit complex, I imagine.

        Last I heard, African scientists were still wracking their brains over the “How?” of the thermos.

        “It gwine done ‘n keep hot things hot… ‘n cold things cold.”

        “But… but… how do it KNOW?”

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 4:24 pm thwack

        Greg Eliot
        That “How?” part is where things get a bit complex, I imagine.
        ——————————————————————————

        You never imagined a black man in the white house; so much for your imagination.

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 7:48 pm Greg Eliot

        Actually, I, and those with ears to hear and eyes to see, saw it coming a mile away… the minute his hat was thrown into the ring.

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 3:29 pm Uncle Elmer

        Actually the secret was given to the Soviets by one Klaus Fuchs, who worked on the Manhattan Project, and why they were able to detonate an atomic bomb 4 years after the U.S.

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 7:56 pm thwack

        Thats my point Uncle Elmer. Not only did white people share the “secret” with other white people (which should be expected), they shared it with nonwhite people too.

        Its not really and indictment of white people, its human nature. Whenever I get some good weed, I gots to “spread the love” at the same time I deny Im the perpetuator. The difference is, I don’t try to blame it on white people.

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      • on April 12, 2013 at 9:55 pm Greg Eliot

        Oh, those wacky white folks!

        Can’t keep their lips shut when it comes to treasonous divulging of classified info… especially the usual suspect rad socs, outright reds, and of course, our old friends, the ubiquitous-in-these-sorts-of-affairs YKWs.

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      • on April 13, 2013 at 7:15 am thwack

        Not all the white folks are wacky:

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      • on April 13, 2013 at 9:48 am Rogue Male

        Norks are the niggers of Asia, QED.

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      • on April 14, 2013 at 9:25 am Ron

        Lol, when its convenient, the Jews who built the atomic bomb are “white”.

        Later, when youll want to blame someone for building/inventing atomic weapons, youll call them Jews again.

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  35. on April 11, 2013 at 12:20 pm whorefinder

    The way to solve North Korea’s problems:

    RAPE!

    They’re all very tiny chinky-dinky-gookies on a starvation diet, so they won’t put up much resistance. Plus they’ve never experienced clown rape before, which is a plus.

    Man, I am evil.

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 1:56 pm Jay

      Rape is the cause and solution to all of life’s problems.

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  36. on April 11, 2013 at 1:08 pm theyhaveapillforthat

    I used to live in South Korea. Feelings there about the US and the US military are mixed and a bit complicated. Most South Koreans don’t mind the US much at all and appreciate the military help, BUT since over the years there have been a number of rapes and murders of Korean women by US soldiers, and it doesn’t take more than one or two of those sorts of things to piss off the population, even if they are isolated incidents. And generally, the US soldiers have a reputation in SK for being a rude, noisy and inconsiderate lot; which they are, at least relatively speaking, because SK has a very reserved, polite sort of culture, not unlike Japan. So yea, mixed sentiments over there on the whole.

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 1:55 pm Jay

      Divide the number of rape accusations by 3.

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 2:31 pm thwack

      During the Japanese occupation of Korea, the “house negro Koreans” were in the south and the “field negro Koreans” were in the north. In Asian culture, all Asians hate the Japanese (cause they are like the white man). Notice how quickly the U.S made friends with the Japs. Chinese and Koreans hate this. How can a South Korean really support the U.S when the U.S supports the Japs; who commited all kinds of atrocities during their occupation of Korea?

      answer?

      they don’t.

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      • on April 11, 2013 at 5:10 pm Alexander

        S. Koreans “hate” US because they don’t like your army being stationed in their country(it’s the masses not the ones that understand politics), but you shouldn’t be dismayed by it, if China ever threatens they will be begging for you to return…

        I know the feel though. Your Humwees had been passing down the road below my window for 5 years and i despised you for that. I knew even than(was 6 yrs old when you arrived) that you imposed peace/your will upon us.
        It’s not something very rational, but it gets to you.

        You can’t resist it, you just can’t stand the army of another country marching through your streets, be them peacemakers, occupiers, or even liberators(well liberators you can tolerate much longer i suppose). We knew you’re the superpower and that ther’s nothing we can do about it.

        You in your humwees obeyed no traffic regulations, and were always speeding, and so it happened once that one humwee trashed a car and killed the couple inside on the spot. When the local people saw what happened and started to approach the crash site, one soldier got out of the humwee that crashed the car to unrecognisability and started to shot in the air, to chase off those that wanted to help the couple. I guess he did that in panic, but that’s when i started to wiew you really badly.

        Our government had no amnesty over the American soldiers and they walked free. Our government appeased us, and we trusted the government and did nothing, but now we started to feel really preassured, since it became clear that you can do such things without any reprimands.

        You can come to our country, crash, kill people, and shoot on our streets on whim, and ther’s absolutely nothing we can do about it. Or you’ll bomb us to ashes.

        If somebody from our own army does something like this, the general feel is: “punish the individual”, if somebody from some foreign army that is inside your country in force(+acting a bit arrogantly)does that – “it’s the whole army’s fault” – especially if he doesn’t get the punished, much prefferably by our government… But it’s not that he wasn’t punished by our authority, he wasn’t punished by any authority…

        After it, though i don’t remember any other similar incidents, and it just went under rug, because our government didn’t wanted to stirr things up, and the general feel was to bear you, until you do for what you came for, so you can leave our country to us.

        And now try to imagine all that for 50 yrs, and many more than few incidents like this, and you’ll get close to the picture we’re looking at in South Korea.

        Yes it’s different: Korea was litterally saved by you, we weren’t: when we asked you to come(during war) you refused, when we manged to liberate ourselves somehow and were finally in a position to deliver fatal blow to the enemy you intervened, and stopped us(now we see it’s good that you did stop us but at a time things looked very much different).

        Besides that there is one very important factor to consider: I live in Croatia, and we always considered us a part of the West(regardless that by many things we still aren’t), and wanted to join the NATO, and be officially part of the West once more, and because of that our sentiment was: “let Americans do their own thing”.
        Now imagine Afghanistan. For them you’re litterally occupiers. You’re infedels, and unbelivers defiling their holy land, + you imposed the northern government on the Pashtun majority country. You’ve got yourself into a clustershit in there and won’t pass better than Russians did.

        Cheers

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 3:53 pm cynthia

      Same thing in Japan – rapes are one of the reasons why 8K Marines are being moved from Okinawa to Darwin, AUS. But the Japanese know what happens to their country when their own military is allowed any kind of influence at all, so most of them are pretty much okay with America picking up the bulk of its defense for them.

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    • on April 12, 2013 at 5:54 am MeSoAngry

      Find the names of the rapists. Look for them on google image search. All is illuminated.

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  37. on April 11, 2013 at 1:59 pm dannyfrom504

    aaaaaaw. i see you know who decided to post today. *rolls eyes*

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  38. on April 11, 2013 at 2:01 pm Who Me

    The US has done some of its best trolling on North Korea

    I give you the Pueblo Incident:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Pueblo_(AGER-2)#USS_Pueblo_incident

    “This treatment allegedly turned worse when the North Koreans realized that crewmen were secretly giving them “the finger” in staged propaganda photos.”

    ” They verified the meaning of what he wrote, but failed to catch the pun when he said ‘We paean the DPRK [North Korea]. We paean their great leader Kim Il Sung’.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_M._Bucher

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  39. on April 11, 2013 at 2:42 pm whatever

    To show other allies that the US still has their back. Otherwise, they may choose to remilitarise (Japan) or pick more aggressive strategy (Israel) and destabilise whole regions.

    Also, because they don’t quite have the umpf of the US military, they will need to be more reactive (like betas) which can easily lead to a confrontation that gets out of hand (China vs Japan, China vs Taiwan, various followers of the religion of peace vs Israel).

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    • on April 12, 2013 at 6:24 am anon

      Our client states and umbrella-sharers should get cracking (atom-cracking that is) and remilitarize and if regions become unstable they will be sure to find a new steady state without wasting the lives of our kids. We don’t have their back, we are well on our way to becoming a failed state ourselves. It isn’t possible nor even desirable to act as the world police anymore. The cooperative non-proliferation regime cobbled together for all those years died during the last Iraq war.

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  40. on April 11, 2013 at 2:46 pm Gracian

    I do not believe there will be any war, any bullets fired, nor missiles fired.

    Its too much of a potential catastrophe for everyone involved.

    Mostly posturing and sabre-rattling…

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    • on April 12, 2013 at 2:19 pm General Leslie Graves

      That’s what they said in the Summer of 1914.

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  41. on April 11, 2013 at 2:58 pm gunslingergregi

    shit we’d roll over north Korea in days
    but yea what’s with the nuclear holocaust shit naa they got like one nuke for gods sake no big deal

    ”””Its too much of a potential catastrophe for everyone involved.””””

    its pretending that they could actually do something who knows why
    yea after the battle could be some guerrilla warfare but if they implement my ideas that wouldn’t be a big deal either

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 3:04 pm gunslingergregi

      storage and use of a vast chemical, biological”””

      well ok maybe not

      484 fighters so maybe actually a test of some skills
      instead of being able to bomb at will

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  42. on April 11, 2013 at 3:06 pm Stuki

    The US needs to fight for South Korea for the same reason the US needs to do anything: It provides an excuse to take resources away from the Americans that earned them, and pass the control of them to some government stooge. That’s all there ever was to anything the US needs to do.

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  43. on April 11, 2013 at 3:56 pm aa

    stick to making fun of feminists. your ignorance is embarrassing.

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    • on April 12, 2013 at 2:49 am Sal Paradise

      You’re embarrassing. Where is he wrong?

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  44. on April 11, 2013 at 4:33 pm Anonymous

    Government programs never die, they just keep on going on into perpetuity under some completely different mission. The IMF and the Department of Education are no different; they exist only to perpetuate the bureaucracy which feeds them. The US military presence in Korea has long outlived its usefulness (and is even counter-productive), but the strange relationship between US and Korean generals, ministers, and contractors has kept alive the lie that a big physical commitment of soldiers and equipment is needed there and that the Korean people want it.

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  45. on April 11, 2013 at 4:42 pm jamestest1213

    This is quite dumb. South Korea is economically important, and they’re our allies (as is Japan). Would you really want a nuclear state like North Korea to freely expand into that region?

    And If anything the South Koreans love America too much, so much of their modern culture is based around trying to imitate the west and become more American.

    I don’t see why someone who writes so amusingly against feminism can be this poorly educated in international and racial politics. Stick to writing about women.

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    • on April 12, 2013 at 3:09 am Sal Paradise

      South Korea has double the population and 40 times the GDP of North Korea.Why can’t they defend themselves again? Is America not going broke? Would a fully armed Japan and South Korea not be a deterrent? You seem to be the one poorly educated on foreign affairs.

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  46. on April 11, 2013 at 4:55 pm al

    weapon sales…….it all about hyping up threat to sell weapons:
    china, japan, russia, south korea, us, india……. – when every one is nervouc, they buy more weapons…..

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 8:03 pm thwack

      North Korea is to China as Al Qeada is to the U.S. Both nations use their respective “crazy uncle who just got out of prison” to scare their friends into “acting right”. The Saudi royal family is never more than a week away from having their heads cut off.

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  47. on April 11, 2013 at 5:16 pm Obstinance Works

    Nike’s got a new add out: Just Nuke It.

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  48. on April 11, 2013 at 5:45 pm North Korea « PUA Central

    […] North Korea […]

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  49. on April 11, 2013 at 6:11 pm Jason

    South Koreans don’t dislike only America. They dislike EVERYBODY. They even dislike one another. (This has been verified by many personal Korean acquaintances.)

    It’s the most xenophobic nation on earth, next to North Korea.

    But the younger generation is changing. In Seoul, they no longer stare at white people.

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    • on April 11, 2013 at 8:13 pm Anonymous

      “This has been verified by many personal Korean acquaintances”

      haha this has got to be the stupidest thing ever said on the internet

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  50. on April 11, 2013 at 8:04 pm The Bechtloff

    Eventually we will give up trying to police the world because the financial reality that we can’t afford it will catch up with us. It will no longer be a question of whether or not we should, but that we simply can’t.

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  51. on April 11, 2013 at 9:40 pm Donny

    Supporting/joining the US military nowadays is just white knighting on a bigger scale.

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  52. on April 11, 2013 at 9:59 pm goodspeed

    OT: Just how bad is the liberal brain-washing at US universities?

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    • on April 12, 2013 at 2:08 pm General Leslie Graves

      AHHHHH!

      I couldn’t take the whole video.

      I took a class in state and local government at Cal Poly in the mid-90’s. My professor happened to also be the mayor of our liberal college town.

      After a whole quarter of him running down Prop 13 and 3 other ballot measures over the years to constrain government, I finally had had enough. I raised my hand then stood up and mentioned that I had voted for all four measures as had the MAJORITY of other California voters.

      He had deliberately understated and underplayed the reasons we had felt necessary to rein in our governments from taking and wasting more and more of our money.

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  53. on April 11, 2013 at 10:54 pm North Korea ain’t our problem: Bandow and others

    […] pick up the phone, call North Korea and talk directly to Kim”). The were also echoed by Chateau Heartiste (HT to sid hartha), a blog I’d learned about a while ago through an episode of Radio […]

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  54. on April 12, 2013 at 12:03 am genxvet

    You all are trying too hard. The answer is honor.

    We’re still in Korea honoring the commitment that President Truman made to the UN and the ROK in 1950, sealed with a lot of American blood. It’s the same mission.

    Our forces in Korea pose no threat to China nor do they have a regional mission. Their only mission and posture in Korea is to defend South Korea from a north Korean attack.

    From day one, since Truman made the call, the Korea mission has been a world cop role. You might as well ask why cops continue to risk their lives policing neighborhoods where the residents resent police presence.

    As far as South Koreans hating America, that’s not true. They don’t like the foreign military presence in their country, but Korea isn’t Okinawa. The vast majority understand and accept the obvious reason for the US military presence. They’re used to the threat as a fact of life, but that doesn’t mean they dismiss the notion that north Korea is a threat. After all, South Korea has compulsory military service. Respect and preparation for the north Korean threat is also a fact of life in South Korea.

    Assuming the war stays cold, Korea is a good duty station for American soldiers, depending how far south you’re stationed. The Koreans are good hosts and KATUSAs make a difference.

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  55. on April 12, 2013 at 1:36 am Saxonian

    A warrior is a warrior, a fighter a fighter, a soldier a soldier. They don’t fight for any reason except the fight itself, the risk, the real freedom.

    Who is able to look in the Dead’s eye and laughing is free. Real free.

    Sachs-man, ger-man means man. Wif-man means woman. Sachs-man an ger-man means man of sword and spear – warrior. (“Germans” or “Saxonians” means nothing else as “the men”, “mannen”.)

    “Warriorism” is the essence of manliness.

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  56. on April 12, 2013 at 3:54 am mysockssmellterrible

    Heartiste, as a soldier in Korea I can tell you many, many of us agree. It makes no fucking sense. The locals hate us. They’re always trying to goad us into fights so they can tape them and the media, who also hates us, can play back the parts where the little Korean men are getting their heads bashed in rather than the parts where they threw a beer on the American soldier and slapped him in the face while he was just standing there in the train station. I don’t know why we are protecting these people. The only Koreans who like us are #1 a lot of Korean females because their men are uber beta and #2 South Korean soldiers because we have a brotherhood with our fellow soldier. There is a reason US Army bases in Korea are a morale abyss and lead the way in drunken incidents, rapes, depression, etc.

    Additionally, many of us have seen the light, so to speak. You won’t find a community of men who “get it” more than enlisted combat arms. The Army loses 80% of its best first-enlistment soldiers because they refuse to reenlist, so you can imagine how the leadership is given who stays (although sometimes the Army will just “stop loss” you against your own will and even when your contract is over it’s not over – only the government…). BTW here’s a fun fact: At the entrance to our bases is a huge bulletin board outlining where all the anti-American protests will be so we can avoid those locations and a mugging/beating from dozens of angry Koreans. And it’s hard to be too angry with them – American soldiers are caught raping, breaking and entering, acting like huge dicks in public (tons of soldiers are huge dicks) and they’re sick of a foreign occupier treating their people like shit and single handedly keeping their prostitution industry functioning.

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    • on April 12, 2013 at 2:03 pm genxvet

      Odd. I did 2 separate tours as an American soldier in Korea during the late 1990s. My experiences, while having some points in common, were very different than the negative experience you describe in this comment. My experiences ranged from neutral to positive.

      Have conditions changed that much in a little over 10 years?

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      • on April 12, 2013 at 5:16 pm Anonymous

        They changed after the military accident which resulted in the deaths of two schoolgirls in 2002. But most of us were happy to be in Seoul or Pyongtaek rather than Iraq. The negative comment sounds more like it’s from a disgruntled English teacher. Am I right, “Charisma Man”?

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      • on April 12, 2013 at 5:40 pm Donny

        It’s very possible. The Internet gives people access to something they didn’t have before: Information. Hence people in countries that we are occupying are waking up the reality of what we are doing, and what we have done, and they want us the fuck out of their country…the same way we would want a foreign army the fuck out of our country. If anything, these countries are surprisingly tolerant of our presence.

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      • on April 15, 2013 at 6:04 pm genxvet

        In my experience talking with Koreans about the issue, they don’t like US troops in Korea and they want US troops out of their country *when they no longer need us*. But their bigger concern is that the US will cut and run from South Korea in case of war with north Korea like we cut and run from South Vietnam.

        The South Koreans fully realize and are sensitive that an America that abandoned one Asian ally to a brutal enemy can abandon them to a brutal enemy, too.

        That’s why the ROK sent troops to Vietnam and Iraq, so they can remind us they helped us when we’re tempted not to help them.

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    • on April 13, 2013 at 12:27 pm doclove

      I was a soldier over there from September 2003 until September 2006 and was in the U.S. Army from 2003 until 2011. I understand your sentiments and see how you got there. I would say that Korean feelings about us U.S. military personnel are mixed. They logically know that we need to be there to deter North Korean aggression from becoming worse, but they also know that emotionally no one wants foreign soldiers on their soil even as liberators at best and occupiers at worst even though most know we are liberators. You are correct that they know that many soldiers have poor behavior, but they know the majority of soldiers are good or at least ok people. I do feel that they don’t appreciate how much we do for them at our own expense, and that we should leave.

      However, do not believe for a moment that American military keep their prostitution industry going. Prostitution around American military installations is small and well hidden in comparison to what Koreans have. There’s a reason why no American military is allowed to get a haircut from barber shops off American military installations as most Korean barber shops off installation were and probably still are fronts for prostitution. They also had red light districts in every major city and even a few medium sized cities to rival whatever is found in Amsterdam. They had massage parlors and coffee girls who would show up and serve more than coffee as they were prostitutes. They had escorts, hostess bars(juicy bars etc. This was for Koreans and not foreigners. The only thing you will see off American military installations is hostess bars(juicy bars), and a percentage of the women are prostitutes and a percentage aren’t and it needs to be hidden. The American military has become more bueracraucratized,, feminized and homosexualized. American military men have a hard time trying to hire prostitutes as a result which Korean men have considerably less problems with since General LaPorte was in charge since 2002. No one has changed a thing on whoring since he left as far as I know. This was all done to please feminazis religious busy bodies and people who are stupid enough to believe most prostitutes are exploited which they are not, and most whores volunteer for the money whether they don’t like their profession or not. Hey, that last clause in my last sentence sounds a lot like most American military personnel in that they do it for the money!!!!!!! I’m not saying that these military people aren’t patriotic and self sacrificing because they are, but they are looking to get fed, clothed and housed as well as afford a few luxuries too just like the rest of world, but in order to get that usually requires money!!!

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  57. on April 12, 2013 at 4:10 am Plumnuts

    The U.S. is nowhere near the SE Asia region and yet has a larger political and economic influence from afar than China has for countries on its own doorstep. Any concessions made by the US are gains for China. Other countries would become involved quickly and there would be a race to reassert power by other countries where vacuums are formed. U.S. is the gaffa out there at the moment, the costs vs. the payoff makes it worthwhile.

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  58. on April 12, 2013 at 5:56 am Moses

    I’ve been saying this for years.

    Why are we spending massive coin and putting American lives on the line for South Koreans? They are quite capable of defending themselves.

    Same for Europe. We should pull out and let those social-welfare pansy-asses defend themselves from Russia with the UN.

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  59. on April 12, 2013 at 6:07 am itsme

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  60. on April 12, 2013 at 6:09 am Master Beta

    The US just wants an excuse to invade North Korea so that it can set up military bases right on the border of China. You’ll be going to war with them soon enough to deal with their “nuclear missiles” that they may or may not have. And, sure enough, the UK will follow like the good little bitch that we are.

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    • on April 12, 2013 at 2:17 pm genxvet

      Doesn’t work that way.

      First, the parameters of the mission have long been openly defined. Second and related, the entire US military posture in Korea is defensive. No part of our go-to-war plans or training in Korea is based on invading the north, preemptively or otherwise. The premise of all of our go-to-war plans in Korea is nK initiating hostilities and our forces acting in defense. Third, it’s an internationalized UN mission, albeit the standing non-US military presence in Korea is a token force, more a UN honor guard, though still a functional war-fighting unit. Other nations, including the UK, carry the same commitment to provide military forces to defend the ROK via the UN as they did for the Korean War. The US military presence in Korea (and Japan) functions to facilitate the entry of other national forces into Korea as much as to directly defend South Korea, especially Seoul.

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      • on April 12, 2013 at 6:24 pm Donny

        We are not protecting anyone. We are getting raped by the military industrial complex and corrupt bureaucrats. They are spending our future tax dollars that we don’t have on false flag operations. War makes people rich. Soldiers are being used, lied to. To be fair, politicians aren’t stupid. They know what to say and how to use propaganda to get you to believe what we are doing is necessary. I believed it for awhile. My dad was in Vietnam, and I’m a vet as well, and so what? Nixon was a murderer, not only of Cambodians, Laotians, Vietnamese, but also American soldiers. Bush the same. Clinton too. Obama is just carrying on the legacy. What would happen if we left S. Korea to rot? Nothing. Let them fucking rot. Americans are warriors, and if a real threat came to our shores we would die before we let them come into our country and take over. If you pay attention you will occasionally catch a glimpse of what these cretins are up to, and it aint benevolence.

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  61. on April 12, 2013 at 8:48 am Anonymous

    Is there anyone who doesn’t think that Kim what the fuck can fart without the chicoms persmisson?

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  62. on April 12, 2013 at 9:22 am Timitz

    The economy is global enough that if South Korea were wrecked in a war it would have an impact on the US economy.

    Secondly, when we pull into port in Korea we are always well received. Any protestors are the same kind of people who protest the military in the US.

    Finally, the South Koreans actually do quite a bit to help the US military. We do exercises with their Navy all the time.

    Its all about geopolitical balance. South Korea helps the US balance against China and Japan which in turn keeps East Asia stable. Ultimately North Korea isn’t a threat. Their goal is regime survival. They know that by acting crazy and like they are willing to go to war it keeps other countries from trying to foment unrest that could topple their government.

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    • on April 12, 2013 at 9:11 pm Donny

      “The economy is global enough that if South Korea were wrecked in a war it would have an impact on the US economy.”

      So we are there for money. Boy if that don’t get you all patriotic I don’t know what will. Here’s another thought: the military industrial complex is now too big to fail. All those people in all those bases around the world and around the US would raise the unemployment rate by a LOT if they were downsized. The military is essentially another welfare program. Politicians won’t touch downsizing with a 10 foot pole. So they make it their job to scare the shit out of us on a daily basis so we think we need to be the world’s cop.

      “Secondly, when we pull into port in Korea we are always well received. Any protesters are the same kind of people who protest the military in the US.”

      Pimps love money. Yes, the people/businesses in the country making money off the US soldiers and sailors are happy to let us buy their shit. They are also happy to kick some of that money up the chain so the corrupt police and politicians of S Korea can quickly crush any open opposition to our presence. But the country has become more democratic over the years, and hence the resentment is becoming more difficult to ignore. And it’s growing.

      “Finally, the South Koreans actually do quite a bit to help the US military. We do exercises with their Navy all the time.”

      Exercises? We don’t need help. From anybody. It’s just for show, like giving your kid a toy lawnmower so he can feel like he’s doing something useful. Like putting a baggy military uniform on an Afghani desert dweller so we can point to him and say “see, they’re helping! They want us here! Yeah we paid them in bags of cash and lost like hundreds of millions, but we gotz more playa! That shitz bein printed right now y’all!”

      When it’s all said and done we’ll probably have just as many troops left in Afghanistan, maybe more in Iraq as we do in S Korea. This is how an empire eventually goes down. Why would we be any different?

      “Its all about geopolitical balance.”

      Heard that before. Sounds a lot like domino theory, axis of evil, etc etc. We can crush just about anyone now from a distance with our ridiculously advanced technology. But hey, after we crush them we get to go in and fix them back up. It’s a job-creation program! The broken-country theory of global economics! Gotta spend money to make money niggaz!

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  63. on April 12, 2013 at 9:28 am Kyo

    Heartiste, now is a fine time to tell this story of mine, which can serve as proof #4151912 that Chicks Dig Jerks.

    I once visited the DPRK on a group tour. We spent most of our time in Pyongyang but went to a few other places too; we mostly saw what our handlers wanted us to see.

    One thing that was hard to get used to was just how total the anti-American propaganda is. Everyone is taught from birth that the USA and all its people are pure unadulterated baby-killing grandma-burning evil.

    At one point we were eating and singing karaoke with some young-ish DPRK girls, who certainly seemed to enjoy talking to us, and with our pidgin Korean, their pidgin English, and our joint pidgin Mandarin (drawing characters on paper quite often), we somehow managed to communicate.

    At one point the 17- or 18-year old girl who seemed somewhat smitten with me asks what country I come from. Someone says “America” and there are a few gasps as they realize an enemy (an enemy on a group tour, mind you) is among them.

    She looks at me for confirmation and I look right at her, point to myself, and say, in my broken Korean but with complete confidence,”Miguk saram“; “[I’m an] American person.”

    Now keep in mind that this is basically the equivalent of saying, “Yes, I am a member of the Nazi Party” in the West.

    And as the group continues talking, she leans into me, even closer than before, while her facial expression and speech betrayed nothing. But the way she leaned on me was unmistakable. Had there been pressure sensors in our clothes, she would have been in a gulag the next day.

    Chicks Dig Jerks, gentlemen. Jerks; assholes; enemy combatants; whatever you want to call them. They love us and even a giant totalitarian regime that can and will starve you to death in a labor camp can’t totally snuff out their expressions of it.

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  64. on April 12, 2013 at 12:20 pm AssNeck

    “Given the anti-white male animus that percolates like boiling magma through every corridor of the Cathedral, it’s a wonder there are white men left willing to fight for the US of Majority-Minority. I’d call them fools if I didn’t think there’s still a chance they might see the light one day. And by “see the light”…

    I saw the light when I joined the Army in the late 1980s. Went in a liberal, came out a Jared Taylor fan.

    Most of the whites who join just need a job or money for college anyway. The days of hokey whites who feel a “duty to country” have ended or are coming to an end.

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    • on April 12, 2013 at 6:19 pm genxvet

      Interesting. I joined the Army for the job and GI bill. I came out a patriot and more open minded. Both the shit bags and high-speed soldiers of different ethnicities from different parts of the country I served with in the Army challenged my preconceived notions.

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  65. on April 13, 2013 at 12:06 am underping the derp

    South Koreans don’t hate the US. At least not any more than our european allies hate us. Koreans not only idolize white foreigners, they emulate our features with plastic surgery. The older Koreans that were around during the war love us since our soldiers saved their butts.

    There’s animosity sure, but its largely from the drunk military crowd and its no worse than anywhere else we have bases.

    In actuality, north Korea isnt much of a threat. Their country is a giant concentration camp. Even their military officers have to sell drugs (and sometimes their own children) to get food. Air drop a couple kimchi mcgriddles and they’ll be on our side in no time.

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  66. on April 16, 2013 at 8:37 am Alpha Mofo

    Ass Neck – You are wrong about your assessment. If the majority of white soldiers only joined for money , then why are 75-80% of our combat arms jobs filled with White males? That’s correct…the mail room, Kitchen, laundry room, Motor transportation etc are filled with every kind of minority (not to mention females)

    Any sort of combat facing job (normally done so out of of sense of duty) is typically majority white, followed by Hispanic then Asian and Black. That “Anglo” % is even higher for Spec Ops. Being fair about it, the Hispanic % of combat troops rises with their larger representation in the USA and they tend to make good soldiers. They too have some self respect and “machismimo” left in their culture which lends itself to fighting for something instead of taking women’s work to get a GI bill.

    Sense of duty and pride in defending your nation is a GOOD thing. However it is not good when, as the author suggests, you are defending those who don’t give a shit about you because of a perverted version of history, self entitlement and basic lies.

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