The website Feminine Beauty is where the “beauty is subjective” lie goes to get sledgehammered into gooey paste. It’s a warehouse of studies and analysis that utterly shreds the pretty lie that prettiness is in the eye of the beholder, and for doing Baal’s work, I thank them. There are only so many hours in a day to take a huge steaming dump on the platitude pushers, so assistance is always appreciated.
There’s an interesting post in their archives that examines how leg length in men and women correlates with attractiveness. Drawings of five male and female models were altered so that their legs and torsos were lengthened or shortened. The results of the study were unambiguous:
For a given height, the judges preferred longer legs in women and shorter legs in men.
For the same height, women tend to have longer legs. Hence this study reported a preference for exaggerated sexual dimorphism.
The author of the post notes that this would explain why women wear high heels: they make women’s legs appear relatively longer. So much for the hamster reasoning of that indignant ex who once insisted, when I innocently asked why she wore make-up and heels, that she does it “for myself”. No sweet cheeks, you do it, subconsciously or knowingly, to make yourself look more appealing to men. Coincidentally, in a faraway basement hovel, a troll who believes that any effort to woo the opposite sex is a sign of low value wept into its cheeto-stained triple chin.
But the study is not without its limitations, especially regarding the effect of leg length on men’s attractiveness.
In the line drawings, the authors achieved longer legs by stretching the legs in the photo editor, making them thinner in the process, but thinner legs will count against the appeal of men. So it is possible that a better study will show a similar find, but not that the shortest legs shown in the line drawings are optimally preferred in men.
There is probably some truth to this caveat, however the male body type women most prefer (at least when they are ovulating) — mesomorphic — tends to be more proportional between torso and leg length. Ectomorphs are the ones with really long legs.
This study corroborates real world observation and cultural allusions. Men do seem to prefer long luscious legs on women. This preference is likely — no, it most definitely is, let’s just say it outright — innate, and immune to feminist scum social intervention propaganda efforts to change it.
Does a male preference for long legs mean men like really tall women? No.
The authors cited some literature to argue that men most strongly prefer women with average height, but the correct interpretation is that over a very broad height range, men do not really care how tall a woman is. As one approaches the extremes of height, it becomes more difficult for women to find men, and hence women closer to average height will be more successful with men than women who are much shorter or much taller, but this isn’t the same as an optimal preference for average height in women.
Where it gets confusing is reconciling the fact of male preference for long-legged women with the evidence that short women are more reproductively successful than tall women. (Keep in mind that “reproductively successful” does not necessarily mean “sexually successful” or “romantically successful” in the contraceptively-wrapped, Pill-popping secular world.) So perhaps the ideal mate for the typical man is a shorter than average woman with longer than average legs for her height. Three huzzahs for a spinner with long helicopter blades.
In a future post, we will discuss whether women with short legs prefer very masculine alpha men.

A difficult ideal to realize in real life, since most of the time leg length is going to correlate roughly to overall height. Not saying that it’s not attractive: The model that famous pin-up artist Vargas used was only 5’2″; he’d just draw her legs in longer than they really were.
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Black men are mostly legs, hence the edge in running and jumping sports. Check out this photo of Michael Jordan.
http://www.corbisimages.com/stock-photo/rights-managed/UP959192/michael-jordan-playing-golf
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Please. Professional athletes should never be used as evidence of the typical.
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Yuck! Black athletes’ legs are not the type of sharply long legs we are talking about here.
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“…hence the edge in running and jumping…”
Wow! Already into Black Males? By the 2nd posting? LOL.
Black Males do NOT have a monopoly on long legs.
However, in MOST sports, longer legs are an advantage, except for maybe gymnastics, hockey, power-lifting (yes I am sure there are other sports that I am missing).
Soccer players and rugby players that have longer legs will move faster as well…
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And…currently the best soccer players in the world are coming out of Spain (Europe).
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That’s crap. I played soccer with hundreds of different college students and graduate students from Europe, Africa and India for years, and the fastest guy – by far – that I’ve ever seen was a stout little fireplug of a guy from Germany (I think) who couldn’t have been more than 5’6″ with short little legs. Jesus, he was fast.
I played basketball for a long time, too, and the best jumper for his height that I’ve ever seen was a 5’7″ white guy with a completely average build who could easily stuff a basketball with two hands.
I understand that most players in the NBA are black, but its more complicated than long legs.
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Agreeing with you Anon7…!
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Well apparently that petulant fat fuck in North Korea is taking his otherwise short frumpy Norkette Soldierettes and dressing them up in high heels [scroll down towards the bottom of the page].
His round corpulent fat fuck of a father was known for travelling around Norkland in his own personal train filled with the best vintages of Bordeaux and Swedish-Bikini-Team whores.
Compare Qhaddaffy and his Amazonian Guard.
And whadda we get here in the good ol’ U. S. of A.?
Reggie Love?
If we’re gonna be screwed by a petty third-world autocrat, it would be kinda neat if he were at least heterosexual.
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Cosigned.
I’m 6’2″, and my height was the cause of the end of my athletic career on the field. I couldn’t move as fast.
The best soccer players are between 5’6″ and 5’8″. See Messi, Ronaldo, etc. They’re almost all the same height.
But explosive movements (running, jumping, etc) are largely due to fast-twitch muscle fibers anyways. Hence stories like the one above.
FYI, people I know who’ve played against Jamaican soccer teams are stunned by their speed on the field. The words “fucking teleportation” have been used to describe their entire strategy. Of course, the Jamaicans’ ball handling sucks, never keeping possession for more than half a minute, but it doesn’t matter if they’re always first to the ball.
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Black Males do NOT have a monopoly on long legs.
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True. Long legs may help in gaining height, but the technique plays at least as large a role as leg length itself. Take a look at the high jump and notice the use of the lower leg and foot to add momentum by the use of “follow thru”. It must then snap back at the last minute to avoid hitting the pole. Timing and rhythm are at least as important as leg length in the high jump. Would Jordan be good at this event? Maybe. Would he be the best? Probably not.
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Thanks,fag.
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Compare Jordan to Michael Phelps. Jordan is 6-6 and Phelps is 6-4. Young white women LOVE Phelps in spite of his face.
http://www.allposters.com/-sp/Michael-Phelps-Athens-2004-Standing-with-Medals-Olympics-Official-Posters_i8924445_.htm
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Related note: The Gronk is also about 6-7. Bitches love the gronk.
While both those tall guys have legs that are long and muscular, you gotta think that their abs seal the deal. just kidding, it’s the fame.
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You women love both due to fame. In his youth, Jordan was getting a lot of female attention.
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I don’t disagree professional athletes are atypical. However, they show the extremes and then all you need to do is ask a woman which she prefers. My geometry teacher taught me it was easier to understand visual differences by looking at extremes. Maybe you can find less famous examples of the extreme, with the same race, to get a better judgment.
One important thing to note is long legs/short legs don’t occur in a vacuum, but with other masculinity / femininity indicators. Do short legged men have low digit ratios, or high digit ratios? Do long legged men have wide faces or narrow faces? What about facial hair, facial bones, and sperm counts?
A commenter below mentioned long legs are an indicator of youth, since they grow fastest in teenage years. I feel women start to prefer more masculine men as they age: the same woman that lusts after Justin Bieber when she’s 16 will lust after a bearded man when she’s 40. It would be an interesting thing to discuss, if youth/femininity is at one end and maturity/masculinity is somehow at the other end of a continuum.
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I feel women start to prefer more masculine men as they age: the same woman that lusts after Justin Bieber when she’s 16 will lust after a bearded man when she’s 40. It would be an interesting thing to discuss, if youth/femininity is at one end and maturity/masculinity is somehow at the other end of a continuum.
The Darwinian Nihilist would say: All that matters is which dude’s seed meets the ovum.
Now I’m not a full blown Darwinian Nihilist, but there’s an obvious Darwinian/biological explanation for why a woman would want a masculine man in her 40’s: Because, at that point in her life, her children are [or at least SHOULD BE] in their teens, and she won’t be able to control them anymore on her own [the way she could when they were just toddlers and elementary school aged], and it will be imperative that she have some serious physical power in the house to keep the teenagers from going ape shit on her.
BTW, that’s also why men don’t achieve their maximum physical strength until their mid-40’s or even their early-50’s: Because Mother Nature designed us so that we’d have our greatest strength precisely when our teenaged sons began to challenge us for dominance of the household.
Mid-40s-ish men would dominate all professional sports if only they could recover from injury as quickly as teenagers and early 20s-ish kids.
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That’s some fascinating armchair evo theory right there. +1
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Yes — teenage girls famously crush on teenage boys who look exactly like … teenage girls. Teen pop magazine photo editors know this. It’s even more exaggerated abroad. Try looking through a Japanese teen pop magazine. The boys are totally indistinguishable from girls.
Crushing on girly-boys, riding ponies — all just steps along the path towards the peak of the female sexuality mountain: impregnation at a young age by a high-T alpha badboy.
Mother Nature is more like Mommie Dearest.
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That dude’s mug is a masterpiece of ugly. It’s hypnotizing, almost Socratic fuglitude.
But the torso thing is right on, explaining the racial dominance of various niches in sports (and why you never see a black man in a swimming pool). It has to do with the higher/lower center of gravity giving you the micro-edge in world class sports where gold medals and also-rans are separated by mircoseconds.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/07/100712103349.htm
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(and why you never see a black man in a swimming pool). It has to do with the higher/lower center of gravity giving you the micro-edge in world class sports
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Matt, black guys don’t win at swimming because of their density. Not only does fat float and muscle sink, but our bones tend to be denser due to mineral retention (good for space flight, sucks for swimming). You need the right amount of body fat to win at swimming. Anthony Ervin did win the 50 meter freestyle in the 2012 U.S olympic trails; not by much, but he did win.
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After doing land exercises your whole life, higher bone density will make you sink like a stone. And vice versa too: Swimming can be just as dangerous to a professional land athlete’s career as, say, skiing. A “no swimming” clause is even written into some of their contracts.
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No,blacks shy away from swimming because the master forbade them to swim back in the bad old days uh da plantation! Water be rayciss!! (j/k dont hate!)
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Ya know, I thought about that. In Africa the water contain dangerous animals; crocs, big ass snakes, hippos… so you probably don’t do a lot of swimming unless you have to. On the other hand, there is a brand of “Hawaii 5 O Canoe nigs” in the pacific that can swim like a fish because that is where the food is.
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Swimming is mostly technique, requires years of coaching, expensive pool time, a two-parent dual-income to pay for that, which right there explains why no Blacks in the pool. Besides Phelps name a famous swimmer in the past ten years. A lower level NFL RB by contrast makes millions.
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Not true at all. There are huge differences in leg to torso ratio among women at the same height. My ex-girlfriend was 5 foot seven and almost all of it was legs she had a very good ratio
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Oh, I know–some women are naturally gifted in that regard. You can have “leg-tall” and “torso-tall.” I was generalizing.
My original point about Vargas was that he found a model that he thought had ideal physical proportions, except that she was short and had short legs. So he just drew her legs longer.
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Shorter women seek men who display ” protector of loved ones” over other traits because of their biological weakness due to being short and delicate. They aggressively pursue guys who are even 4+ inches taller then them and especially freakishly tall guys. The fact that they come up to my Dick while standing and can suck cock without bending makes me luv em ;D thus better reproductive success
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Captain Capitalism got this right a few days ago: “Men like big boobs, long legs, long hair, and tight asses.” Well, 3/4 right, anyway; give me an A-cup Angel any day.
[CH: Long legs, long hair and tight asses are universally loved by men. There’s a little more variety in men’s boob size preference, probably owing to the inherent dichotomy that large boobed women are for marrying and small boobed women are for fucking.]
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“probably owing to the inherent dichotomy that large boobed women are for marrying and small boobed women are for fucking.]”
WHAAAAATTTT?!?!?!?!?!
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Small boobs here, so we’re for fucking.
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Lol @lily. You are so impressionable. It was a throwaway comment with no scientific basis. Just relax, babe. I do believe that if you have the right attitude you will find someone who really loves you. You will be ok. 🙂
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Hahaha…It was in jest. Do you really think I was taking it seriously? Maybe I should have added the lols, then you would had a clue as to my mindset.
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yes, i did. and yes, please alert me in the future, because i was previously under the impression that you were close to completely humorless. haha
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Yeah, I’d really love some exegesis on that one.
[CH: Men on the hunt for sex focus on the ass. Men looking for LTR mother of future children weigh boob size more.]
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What’s the evolutionary psychology explanation for that?
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That’s the first time I’ve ever heard that or anything like it.
Does it matter if they’re real, or fakeys?
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Show us yours and we’ll decide.
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You know perfectly well, whorefinder, the only way that anybody’s going to see them. Rhymes with “tape.”
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So you’re a virgin, is what you’re saying.
Good, glad you’re saving yourself for me…..and CLOWN RAPE!
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I’m a virgin to CLOWN RAPE!
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CH: Fasten your seatbelt for another leap of logic: so, if you want guys to take you more seriously, you should play up the cleavage versus the posterior?
[CH: This isn’t scientific by any means, but my impression is that you should play up the cleavage if you want a man to consider you LTR material. There’s just something about big juicy boobs that inspires protectiveness in men.]
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Alright! This is news I can use! Thanks CH 🙂 May oceans of knees (attached to long legs) part before you 🙂
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ps: Sorry, thwack. I guess that puts the kibosh on the shot you commissioned. I really did try though. I’m just not that coordinated 🙂
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LOL
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This is the first time I have heard this big boobs for marrying and small boobed women for shagging bit… doesn’t make sense to me, honestly. I prefer big boobs (won’t spend too much time thinking about buttocks, but a nice rack is droolworthy). However, when i had a super big boobed gf it was a little shocking. She looked like a porn star (though it was all real) and would inspire attention everywhere we went (car honks–lustful stares, etc.). She always felt like a sex object, and it kind of jaded her. it was hard for me to visualize a girl like that as the mother of my kids, honestly. I married a bit more normal sized girl who was still very hot, but not quite as attention getting in public. I felt a little more comfortable taking her out. Maybe that’s just me. I can say I’m naturally more the LTR type.
On the other hand, I definitely have noticed a lot of guys who are into butts are more likely to screw around. However, I have considered this to be a sign of a more animalistic nature/maybe bad genes. I have also noticed, anecdotally that a lot of men of color (shall we say) really do like the “baby got back” type. Not sure how you could say tight butts are universally loved, unless you mean very very large tight butts (I must say I haven’t done enough research on this combination to know if that’s reaslly possible)…
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[CH: Men on the hunt for sex focus on the ass. Men looking for LTR mother of future children weigh boob size more.]
Sociologically: A-Cup chicks tend to be low estrogen and tend to have greater difficulty achieving orgasm; D-Cup chicks tend to be high-estrogen and tend to break into multiple orgasms at the drop of a hat.
Biologically: A-cup chicks [being low estrogen] tend to have difficulty conceiving and if they can even produce a live birth, then it will be impossible for them to feed the child adequately [ergo the need for a wet nurse]; D-Cup chicks [being high estrogen] can easily conceive and should produce more than enough milk for the hungry child.
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[CH: Men on the hunt for sex focus on the ass. Men looking for LTR mother of future children weigh boob size more.]
Sociologically: A-Cup chicks tend to be low estrogen and tend to have greater difficulty achieving orgasm; D-Cup chicks tend to be high-estrogen and tend to break into multiple orgasms at the drop of a hat.
Biologically: A-cup chicks [being low estrogen] tend to have difficulty conceiving and if they can even produce a live birth, then it will be impossible for them to feed the child adequately [ergo the need for a wet nurse]; D-Cup chicks [being high estrogen] can easily conceive and should produce more than enough milk for the hungry child.
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Small-breasted women are also unable to nurse a newborn baby lying down; this seems unimportant, but considering that newborns nurse almost all day long in the first few weeks of life, it is extremely significant. Women are tired after having a baby, and if they can nurse lying down, they can rest more and the baby will also end up nursing more, and therefore get more milk and gain weight more quickly. This may not be as important now, but to our cavemen ancestors it likely meant the difference between life and death for the infant. Nursing an infant while lying down also increases the oxytocin hormone which not only promotes bonding but also increases milk supply. Only women with large breasts can nurse lying down though. The babies of women who try to do so with small breasts can’t reach the nipple and latch on properly in that position.
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I don’t think that A-cup women have substantially lower estrogen- if I understand correctly, breast size is more determined by the responsiveness of the estrogen receptors in the breast tissue rather than the absolute levels of estrogen in the body. I think that the waist-hip ratio is supposed to be reflective of the actual physiological estrogen concentrations, though.
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big boobs + big hips = super fertile = don’t rape
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I think it’s true! I’m large breasted and I’ve never been pumped-and-dumped AND I’m in an LTR now. I know the downside to large breasts is that they sag as we age, but IMO a breast lift is a much cheaper and not as unnatural surgery as a small breasted woman needing to get full-out breast implants. My butt and legs are boring and ‘meh,’ my butt is small and flat-ish so I have always just tried to play up what I do have going for me and try to make my boobs look good. I usually wear longer skirts and ballet flat kind of shoes rather than miniskirts and heels like my friends with longer legs. I do have a small waist but I must severely restrict my food intake to acquire that. Life and food is torture for me to be thin, I recently lost more weight, I am really short and a small weight gain makes a big difference on my frame.
I think all girls should just work with what they have and minimize their flaws, most people are not blessed with a perfect body OR face. I don’t think I have facial beauty really, I get called ‘cute’ a lot but very rarely have I been called ‘beautiful’ (and then only by people obviously trying to kiss my arse). What I have been told with sincerity is that I have nice large blue eyes so I try to play up my eyes and draw attention to them.
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Do you have any black in you?
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Long hair is sex. Period. Beware the girlfriend who keeps her hair long… she’s advertising.
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Oh please, would you want your GF to cut her hair short so that she doesn’t look attractive to other men? Never cutting my hair short, that’s a fact.
[CH: The problem for men who pursue the uglifying strategy of rendering their lovers unappealing to the competition is that their lovers will also be unappealing to them.]
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gj lily
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yea ch I beautify my bitches more
turn em into princesses and shit
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it is a little rough though when ya can’t leave em alone for two seconds without some dude hittin on em lol
but feels good too he he he
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I sometimes send mine back upstairs if her look is unacceptable. We might run into somebody I work with ffs.
I like to get her to buy tight little dresses that look sexy on the hanger and I talked her into getting hot rollers so her hair has more body and curl (health). Damn! Put that all together with a pair of Jimmy Choo’s and that’s sexy.
I have trouble even being friends with guys who have fat and/or extremely unattractive wives. Maybe it’s their betaness that freaks me out? I never thought of this before but that must be it.
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Get her to buy a curling iron and learn how to use it. If she has long relatively straight and somewhat full hair, it will make her hair look like it belongs on a magazine cover. But she first needs to wash it and dry it well before she uses the curling iron. It only works on clean washed dry hair.
Yes, if her look isn’t to your liking, send her back. She should be dressing for you – first and foremost. Go shopping with her, so she sees what you like her to wear.
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They’re so scared of their women running off with another man that they subtly encourage her to get fat and to cut off her hair.
Whereas my alpha bro, when his wife wanted to cut her hair off, wouldn’t consider it. She said recently, “[alpha bro] won’t let me.”
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Heartiste, isn’t that what muslim men have been doing for centuries? uglfying their women by making them wear tents over their bodies? do you think the men benefit from this strategy? would this strategy work for non-middle eastern men?
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say what my woman will always have long hair for me he he he
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who like a tight ass? I like a big booty and a tight waist
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“In a future post, we will discuss whether women with short legs prefer very masculine alpha men.”
Damn my short legs!
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well, at least you have matt “different kind of alpha” king to feed your ego.
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Problem solved! New wedges (three and a half inches with one inch platform) just arrived 🙂
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Zzz. Tell me when you want to put on your big girl shoes and wear 4’s and 5 with platforms. Did you get wedges for training wheels?
Send pix of your purchases so I can go Joan Rivers on them. (Just kidding, I’ll be gentle. Seriously send links.)
Anything like these perky little primaverals?
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Enjoy your nap because I don’t ever intend to be a “big girl.” The wedges are to match my daughter’s. Maybe they will appear in my next gravatar. A little anticipation won’t kill you.
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With little blinking lights and velcro straps? Hanna Montana decals? Or a mini-roller skate in back?
Send the link. You don’t want to build up “anticipation” too much and then under-deliver.
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I’ll deliver when my laptop’s battery is delivered. TIme to update your references. Hannah Montana is out; its Rocky and CeCe now. Anyway, hers are from American Eagle and mine are from Victoria’s Secret. They’re quite fun. Kicky!
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Its not the length of the legs,its the ease of spreadability!
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If the legs are longer than the upper half of the body thats a big plus in women. Add super-high heels to the mix and you have got something sweet.
Didnt know that my shorter legs are actually a plus rather than a weakness; came a bit as a surprise. Thanks for the knowledge.
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Leggy, short girls are the hottest girls on earth.
Women with short legs may prefer alpha men, but they’ll have to settle for whatever they can get. This is why I don’t dig on Asian chicks. Short, stumpy legs.
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A women with long legs looks fantastic, too, on all fours with her ass perched way up high.
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I have always preferred dainty, thin, short, petite, tiny-waisted women with short legs, wide hips, and huge tits. I have never liked the long legged look that other men like. I find that long legged women often have narrow boy-hips. I’ve also never found myself attracted to big butts.
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They can be as leggy as they want, short or tall…
As long as they have ‘The Gap’.
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Where it gets confusing is reconciling the fact of male preference for long-legged women with the evidence that short women are more reproductively successful than tall women.
Since I prefer slender, long-legged women, and don’t care much for short girls, I have a theory.
Among the beta masses of men, women will select for height. Therefore, short women are more likely to find a man that will satisfy their height requirements than tall, long-legged women, who are more likely to hold out for either 6’2″ beta males, or alphas who are able to bust their height requirements. Among beta males, the shorties will have trouble in the SMP while the tall betas will still do well enough.
Ergo, short women and taller provider-beta males may be expected to be a common match, perhaps even the most common match among humans, leading to “greater reproductive success” for short women and tall men.
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“Since I prefer slender, long-legged women, and don’t care much for short girls, I have a theory.”
Slender, long-legged women could be the feature of shorter girls too. Long legs don’t have to do with tallness. Tall girls could have proportionality short legs. It’s about the lower part of the body being longer than the upper part of the body. Most men with taste prefer longer legs on women.
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Slender, long-legged women could be the feature of shorter girls too.
Possibly…… but it would involve their having really small frames such that they look like Munchkin ballerinas. Unless I was Peregrin Took, I imagine they’d look rather too small-featured for me.
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Kaylani Lei (porn queen) is 4’11” and seems deliciously proportioned.
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Yeah, this is why I’m spending more time overseas. I just get creamed for being short in the US — while overseas it’s not an issue. Even in, say, Portugal or Spain it’s not much of an issue. Northern Europe would be tough because everyone is so tall, but all over Asia or Latin America I am not short. This just makes SUCH a huge difference. I mean … personally I prefer shorter chicks anyway so there is zero benefit to me in being around taller women. All my best relationships have been with women 5’1 to 5’5″.
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In young girls, the legs are relatively lng comared to yhe rest of the body. So long legs are a sign of youthfulness
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Guess it might be a racial thing (imagine that). Because I, being half white and half black, really prefer big, round asses to tight firm ones. I mean I’m not like the bros who want that shit to jiggle like jell-o with each step, but I do like them big. As for short girls…I think that has to do with men being less intimidated by them. A very attractive very tall girl surely intimidates just about all men. Hell even I find some hesitation when they are over 6 feet. Spot on with the breasts though. I don’t think anyone TRULY loves A-cups over larger sizes, at least not after they’ve had a handful, but I could be wrong.
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Ur wrong. Cute little Natural perky boobs are the best because they always come along with perfect nice little legs and ass.
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Big boobz are more likely attached to a big woman. Big-A/Small-B is around the right size.
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I feel bad for the fatties whose boobs don’t inflate with their weight gain.
Worst of both worlds: Flatsos.
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Gold!
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a woman with an a cup can go to a c after breastfeeding
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I’m talking C’s on a slim babe, little everything goes on a 12 year old girl if you ask me, but I guess there is individual prefrence.
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Sorry, no.
thin, small waist, big tits > thin, small waist, small tits.
This inequality is universal.
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Yawn. Another low-IQ. subhuman:
I think that has to do with men being less intimidated by them. A very attractive very tall girl surely intimidates just about all men.
—lmao. Men ain’t intimidated, it’s about chances. Chicks across the board are EXTREMELY hesitant to be with a man shorter than them. The rule for girls is that they all want a man tall enough to wear heels with/look up to like a Daddy/protector figure. So men who get blown out for their height merely adjust and go for the attractive women their height or below. It would be like a guy with minimal game trying to hit on a club full of 10s on a Satruday night–he’s not ready for prime time.
Game can overcome a lot, including height, but height is such a very sticky/stubborn requirement in girls that it’s really only the top guys who can pull it off.
Now, I know you’ll bring up some anecdotes to try to “win” the argument about how some short guy you know bangs 6 footers and how you know some amazon who dates midgets, but anecdotes are merely outliers, not data. I know in the ghetto that you’re from that’s considered “winning” an argument because “you know a guy”, but here, in the adult, civilized world, boy, numbers and figures matter a hell of a lot more than darky urban legend.
Now, back to your affirmative action job, boy!
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Lol, adorable. But I do see your point. True there are exceptions but the rule is taller man shorter girl. Oh shit. I agreed. Must be the white side of me.
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Chicks across the board are EXTREMELY hesitant to be with a man shorter than them. The rule for girls is that they all want a man tall enough to wear heels with/look up to like a Daddy/protector figure. So men who get blown out for their height merely adjust and go for the attractive women their height or below. It would be like a guy with minimal game trying to hit on a club full of 10s on a Satruday night–he’s not ready for prime time.
Game can overcome a lot, including height, but height is such a very sticky/stubborn requirement in girls that it’s really only the top guys who can pull it off.
Exactly, and I think this needs to be emphasized. As well as the converse, as there are no doubt guys who don’t think game works because they see disgusting beta behavior on the part of guys who keep their girls around. But they don’t see the whole picture.
If you want to know why a 6’2″ beta who completely betatudes himself all over his hot girlfriend is able to keep her around, it’s because he’s 6’2″, and we may presume reasonably good-looking; not because he’s a beta. Let’s call this type of guy the Tall Good-looking Beta or TGB. A 5’5″ guy would get absolutely nowhere doing that, except maybe in Southeast Asia. One of average height might be able to beta a short woman into a relationship, but probably not if she is staggeringly cute.
I.e., if you’re in the magic height range (between 6′ and 6’5″), i.e., you’re a TGB, it takes a lot longer for the beta stench to drive her away, possibly so long that she marries you and has several kids with you before she decides your behavior sucks balls. But, if you are below 6′, you must study Game if you want to pass your genes on and not have to settle for table scraps.
I myself lost the interest of a couple of girls who jumped into relationships with TGBs. But at the time, my game was not good enough, and I was a lesser beta myself, so it’s only natural they would do so. With reading CH and a lot of self-discipline and training myself, I think I’m finally slowly rising into lesser alpha status.
One of my prospects is a tall, long-legged 19 y.o. HB8. She is, unlike many tall girls, not averse to wearing high heels. And, unsurprisingly, she has a (at least one) TGB after her. But, so far, it appears that she prefers me, despite the fact I’m 12 years older. The coaching I’ve gotten here has definitely kept me competitive against this TGB, despite the fact that otherwise, and in my old beta days, I wouldn’t be expected to stand any chance whatsoever.
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“Shorter women are more likely to have long-term relationships with men, and more likely to have children, according to a study of 10,000 people born in the UK in 1958.”
The full study isn’t available for free.
You have to wonder if they control for income, race/sub-race/nationality, social class, education, etc.
It could be that shorter women in Britain were just more likely to belong to a class that got married and reproduced, while taller people in Britain were more likely to belong to a class that got educated, got careers and died alone with their cats.
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Or it could be that taller women have more hormones that makes them more masculine.
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One of the least attractive types of women are the tall ones with short(er) legs. I’ve known women like this and even though they were all attractive, the overall effect was like looking at a “Beavis and Butthead” character.
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One dude I know of dated what appeared to be a 9 — from the waist up. But… her legs were about half a foot too short for her body, which brought her down to a 6.
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Re: female preference of men’s legs. Duh, the photo-enhanced longer legs looked skinny and weak. Show a guy with real quadriceps and long legs…you’d get female reaction.
Re: short leggy girls vs tall leggy girls. Maybe there is some hidden math ratio thing going on here where it’s really all the same. Throw in the disrupter that short girls will always wear sexy heels while tall girls will wear flats to avoid being too tall (along with slouching). I guess the study nails it. However, the tall leggy barbie types I’ve had have never had much leg muscle tone, if you’re in to that.
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However, the tall leggy barbie types I’ve had have never had much leg muscle tone, if you’re in to that.
Two words: ballet dancers.
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“Throw in the disrupter that short girls will always wear sexy heels while tall girls will wear flats to avoid being too tall (along with slouching).”
Please, a tall girl with the perfect body doesn’t slouch. The slouches are the Meg Whitman type from eBay fame- tall and husky, and legs lacking shape.
“However, the tall leggy barbie types I’ve had have never had much leg muscle tone, if you’re in to that.”
More nonsense. Tall legs with lots of cellulite on them don’t count. Tall shapely legs are what counts, and they usually have muscle tone (when the cellulite is nowhere in sight).
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Hell yes about the slouching. Posture is prime. Bring back the finishing schools and books-on-heads. S.E. Cupp is much hotter than she should be because of the ballerina training. Greta Gerwig is an HP10 (Hot Posture), too. Ballet should be a core requirement for girls in high school. They all want to be ballerinas anyway. It firms up even fatbodies.
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The hidden math ratio has been around since Aristotle. See: Golden ratio/ Golden mean.
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“Show a guy with real quadriceps and long legs…you’d get female reaction.”
Yes, you would.
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crouching manjaw hidden berneke
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What the heke is a berneke?
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A devaluer of dollars. May Satan take him soon.
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Maybe a large pile of gold will tip over on him?
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It’s a cryptic reference to GBFM and the head of da Fed, Ben Bernanke.
I see you skim over that gibberish too…
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I find it impossible not to respond to remarks that end this way…even if I have nothing to say…
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No worries. Reading Atwood or Chandler is more fun than macroeconomics anyways… 🙂
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Interesting site. Liked their discussion of the fashion industry. I’ve always thought it worthy of note how more straight male oriented outlets like Victoria’s Secret, Sports Illustrated and Playboy use different types of models than the high fashion outlets. Girls like Heidi Klum, Tyra Banks and Kate Upton were basically flops in the high fashion world, but then became highly successful in the straight male oriented areas.
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kate upton has no waist. she’s sausage shaped and fat.
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Maybe that’s why she took that high schooler up on his prom date offer…
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Upton’s an 8.5, with impressive boobs. On a scale where 5 is neutral and 10 is Monica Bellucci.
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If Kate Upton is an 8.5 in a beauty rating contest, that’s a sad sign for America because she is really fat.
[CH: Ok, this reeks of troll. Kate Upton is not “really fat”. The worst you can say about her is that her WHR is narrower than ideal.]
Models are supposed to represent an ideal body, not the average everyday girl.
[Compared to the average everyday girl, Upton is anorexic.]
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Those are fat rolls and I don’t know any guys that think fat rolls are sexy!
I’m not saying she’s ugly or morbidly obese, just that she shouldn’t be a model. Models are supposed to be ideals, far above average.
I’m not a troll – promise!
[CH: Those look more like weird flabby skin pockets crunched up in unflattering poses than fat rolls, but whatever. If that’s her, she needs to trim up and drop about 10-15 pounds. But that’s a far cry from “really fat” and from the average American manatee.]
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In comparison with actual inspirational women like Candice Swanepoel?
She has A cups but even despite that I would sell my soul for a body like hers.
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Arizona Muse. A little too skinny, but DAT FACE.
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Kate Upton is not fat. However, there’s a fat girl in there just begging to come out. Ten bucks says by the time she’s thirty she’s starting a “plus size” clothing line. What you’re seeing is the future, not the present.
A good comparison is Anna Nicole Smith. Young and thin, she was va-va-va-voom. But as she aged, she put on weight, and basically became a negro’s dream: old, rich, white, blond, fat, stupid, and skanky. It was sad to watch her go from a 10 to a fat 3.
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“Kate Upton is not fat. However, there’s a fat girl in there just begging to come out. “
Exactly! She looked better a few years ago. Now, she is as you describe her.
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whorefinder
Kate Upton is not fat. However, there’s a fat girl in there just begging to come out.
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Maybe she has some black in her?
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Since she’s a slag, she’s probably had a lot of black in her.
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Kate Upton is dating P. Diddy.
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Kate Upton is dating P. Diddy.
Emerging fatso dating Diddly-Squat. Who’s surprised?
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Puff Mommy
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Ten bucks says by the time she’s thirty she’s starting a “plus size” clothing line.
You’re being far too cowardly with your bet.
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With regards to actual body fat, Kate Upton is not fat, but she does have a heavy build. Given the low brow ridge and tiny eyes, the face isn’t particularly spectacular either (though she does have nice skin). Go to your average state college and plenty of girls are better looking. Overall, she has no place in a job getting paid for beauty.
Hyperfeminine beauty in models: Cintia Dicker, Barbara Palvin.
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Kate Upton doesn’t have a lot of fat on her body, but where she has it is the worst possible place – right around her middle. The pics above are her “normal pics” while her posed pictures always have her either covering her waist or bending in such a way so as to enhance her WHR.
I’m really tired of people calling her curvy. She’s the opposite of curvy – she’s very straight. She’s just a little thick (not for the average American woman, but come on, she’s being paid to stay in shape!).
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She has cow legs
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She’s just generally thick across the board. Not because she’s massively overweight, but because it’s just her body type. Girls like her HAVE to stay super slim to stay attractive, because they don’t have the curvaciousness to take some of those pounds without losing the tight middle. Compare to Crystal Renn, before and after gaining a bunch of weight.
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=crystal+renn+thin&qs=n&form=QBIR&pq=crystal+renn+thin&sc=2-18&sp=-1&sk=&&id=B133CB56EFBDB2FFF3613AC1A8F3F4D21FA610C8&selectedIndex=38#view=detail&id=B133CB56EFBDB2FFF3613AC1A8F3F4D21FA610C8&selectedIndex=0
FTR, I still think Renn was more attractive slender, but the way she gained the weight (hips, thighs, and breasts) is more attractive than Kate’s overall thickness from head to toe.
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True. I could chub to Crystal with the extra pounds. Kate, OTOH… nope. She’s already down to a 7, or “only somewhat better than the average young American woman.”
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Alexandra,
“I’m really tired of people calling her curvy. She’s the opposite of curvy – she’s very straight.”
You’ve absolutely nailed it. From a guy who prefers genuinely curvy women, your clarification is most welcome.
No hate for Kate from me – she is quite pretty and feminine, but she is definitely not “curvy.”
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“10 is Monica Bellucci”
+1
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Well, no offense, but duh. Fags and broads run the fashion world; straight men have little to no interest in it. So the chicks there are merely to make the clothes look their best—i.e. they are wire hangers. Their faces run the gamut of pretty to homely, but their bodies are too skinny.
Men want bodies. Watch porn and SI and Playboy for that they want.
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Taking a bit more look at the site, the guy who’s running it has a bit of an obsession with sniffing out any hint of masculinity in various female celebrities and then calling those girls tranny look-alikes. If Heidi Klum and Adriana Lima are what trannies looks like then who wants real girls. Sheesh!
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Me jealous of small girl. Can wear heels, not feel like ogre.
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lol Its about time we got a new troll around here!
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You know, I find the most erotic part of a woman is the boobies.
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Um, a well-groomed pussy leaps to mind.
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There there SnuSnu. Some black guy wants to rape you.
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Ok the beauty is not in the eye of the beholder. It is in the genes of the beholder. This does not mean it exists an objective beauty. At best it exists an objective attractiveness, and you can decide to overlap the 2 things.
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Except that we all have those genes, so what you point out is a distinction without a difference.
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The beauty is objective while the variation/preferences are subjective.
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Long or short makes no difference as long as they’re shapely, and toned. No men like bird legs or cottage cheese on their women
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Shapely and toned usually only works with long. The short have more predisposition to cellulite.
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I don’t know why the authors of the study didn’t use computer models rather than Photoshopped pics. It would have been far more accurate and very little work to recruit someone to make the most basic of female models on a computer
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How difficult can be to make a computer program showing you pics of girls (lot of different girls) with their measurements altered and asking you to rate them.
Then knowing what changed in the pic (WHR, boob size, length of the legs, etc) decided what “perfection” means for guys rating them
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I think it’s more important to look at what women like in men, rather than what we like. This is a game blog after all. We know the women we want and we come here for advice on how to get them.
As readers, the first thing we should assess is our fair sexual market value and the type of women we should be pulling normally. It’s possible your body proportion affects what women think of your masculinity which affects your sexual market value. That’s good to know.
Secondly, it’s a plus if we can find niches of women that give us value (more attractive dating partners or less effort). If Heartiste determines short legged women like masculine men, then a long-legged man or a feminine man may do better with a model type than a normal girl with a stronger alpha preference. The opposite is true for a short-legged man or a masculine one. That’s also good to know.
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> Coincidentally, in a faraway basement hovel, a troll who believes that any effort to woo the opposite sex is a sign of low value wept into its cheeto-stained triple chin.
Wrong on all counts, CH. I’m not overweight, don’t eat cheetos, and don’t live in a basement. I’m currently drinking a glass of carrot and cucumber juice that I juiced 15 minutes ago. So obviously you’re full of shit. I think this blog is played out by now. How many times are you gonna rehash the same topics over and over?
FACE
[CH: Didn’t take much to lure you from your stinkhole. Tell everyone again how hot women who wear make-up are low value try-hards. The laughs are welcome.]
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The hilarious part is that this SWPL-fag thinks the phrase “I’m currently drinking a glass of carrot and cucumber juice that I juiced 15 minutes ago” is a statement of power.
It’s hilarious how the faggiest of the SWPLs think they’re the manliest. Pure comedy.
Also, RAPE! It’s the other white meat!
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and the troll’s carrot juice is basically sugary sugar. Stick with Kale and cukes.
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Not nearly as many times as the commentariat is going to make fun of loser trolls who take the time to come to a blog they disagree with and write about how they have better things to do. Drink up.
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fag
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i always figured shiva to be female. he/she writes like one.
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Indian gods tend to be hermaphrodites or switch sexes. Doesn’t surprise me.
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I’m currently drinking a glass of carrot and cucumber juice that I juiced 15 minutes ago. So obviously you’re full of shit.
So you’re a vegan. Ha.
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a faggot you mean
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Now, now, the buttfuckers I know would never deign to visit a masculine site like this.
Clearly he’s just a faggot-in-training.
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Don’t you have to be in the gym in 26 minutes?
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“a glass of carrot and cucumber juice”
What the shit is that? Try a real man’s shake: banana, chocolate, peanut butter, whey protein, creatine, and glutamine
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Cut him some slack. He’s just angling for another Comment of the Week.
Namaste.
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Can’t chew your vegetables like a normal person?
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Just don’t mention where that cucumber has been. :yuck:
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I know what all women prefer: RAPE!
It’s the other white meat!
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My theory is that men are wired to be attracted to long legs because it is a sign of youth and fertility. Take a look at girls in the 13-16 range: in adolescence, their leg growth outpaces the rest of their body. The rest of their bone structure catches up by age 16-18. Disproportionately long legs is an indicator of a girls fertility and, shall we say, eligibility.
[CH: This is the best theory I’ve read for why men like women with long legs.]
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[CH: This is the best theory I’ve read for why men like women with long legs.]
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How about the fact that long legs are a sapien trait?
Humans are the only apes with long legs:
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Good call.
Because the Keiblerian leg proportion would seem to throw off the Golden Ratio Theory ([some NSFW Imgs] http://valuesaustralia.com/blog/its-a-beautiful-thing-but-why/ ) at least a little.
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Correct, the growth spurt starts in the legs
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Love love love short, tiny, petite girls
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Werd
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Like delayed-puberty gymnasts. Yum, amirite? Can I get an amen?
Anyone?
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Best leg to torso ratio on a woman resembles a cheetah.
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Calling someone ‘fatty’ could become a hate crime
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9297496/Calling-someone-fatty-could-become-a-hate-crime.html
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Being fat should be a hate crime. For women at least.
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Face it man, everything that used to be shamed in generations past is going to be considered a hate crime if we continue utilizing it, and that includes speaking against the destructive nature of homosexuality. This article is proof of what I was forecasting in the “the wickedest link” thread a few days ago.
I guess, free speech doesn’t trump someone’s feelings, eh? I have to consider everyone around me before I can say what’s on my mind because fatties and gays don’t like to be facing the truth about themselves so we have to lie to em’ in order to make em’ feel good about their worthless selves.
Watch out! This could be coming to the internet too.
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Try explaining that HIV is a gay disease to them. Even with numbers from the CDC they reply NAFALT and “Straight people can get aids too.” Got in an argument yesterday with two men (i use the term loosely) arguing that women aren’t in mens professional sports because they haven’t been given an equal opportunity. Muscle mass and testosterone have nothing to do with it while the chick commenters would just vote up their comments. This is basic human knowledge a significant portion of the population refuses to believe.
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The population is stupefied. If men are telling you, “women aren’t in mens professional sports because they haven’t been given an equal opportunity,” it’s all over. How can men buy into this irrational garbage? Just more proof of my theories: Men have bought into feminist nonsense and they are now directly responsible for their own downfall, including if their women cheat on them.
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“Men have bought into feminist nonsense”
We didn’t buy into it, we were indoctrinated from an early age.
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Exactly right. But that means we will take the brunt of it and not live to see vindication. Someone here recently made reference to Moses not reaching The Promised Land. That is our generation’s fate.
Once we get over the sissy “Why Me, O Why Meeeee!” syndrome, we will be able to strategize like men. And it’s not all tragedy and sacrifice. We will support one another in carving out private refuges for our families while the harpyocracy is at its peak. But the battle lines are drawn and it is clear what we must do. What remains is the discipline to work patiently and the courage to act in the service of something larger than all of us.
The mistake of the Analytic-Materialist-Marxist is the fruit of their nihilist assumptions: if all we have is this life, here and now, if all that matters is ourselves, me myself and I, then we must change everything according to our own subjective standard, and do it immediately, and we must attempt it universally. If a hundred million people have to be murdered, so be it. If it blows up in your face and is forgotten by your children, no matter. Your life is your own, and their lives are their own. Nothing to connect them, nothing to build on, just a mad return to square one with every newborn child.
The ability to take the long view — i.e., the one that extends past your own short life — is prerequisite for relaxation. A relaxed mind is prerequisite for clear planning and execution. There is no more space to bemoan the responsibility which fell to us. If we had any sort of historical perspective, the opportunity to unfuck the mortal flaw of Western Civilization would be a source of pride. And plenty of generations had it worse.
Matt
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@ Modern Primitive
What’s the difference? Even if men have been indoctrinated, saying something as stupid as “women aren’t in men’s professional sports because they haven’t been given an equal opportunity,” as opposed to pinpointing the obvious reason which is women don’t have the same muscle mass and testosterone as men, shows that men are inseparable form feminists and liberals in promoting this lie. Either way, these men can’t discern truth from fantasy. Does it sound familiar? Sounds somewhat like how women think, doesn’t it? Therefore, to say men are complicit and directly responsible for their downfall is accurate. It’s honest to blame men, just as much as it’s honest to blame women for the sad state of affairs. The entire culture is stupefied – men and women.
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NAGALT ftw,
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“Watch out! This could be coming to the internet too.”
I also wanted to add that pretty soon, it will be a crime to criticize liberals too. The college professor (I forgot where) who encourages his students steal the mail of conservatives to thwart their right to vote is an indication of how the Left operates.
The Left tries to control how we think, while it employs dirty tactics against people who disagree with it. Eventually, everything will be policed – our thoughts, our comments, our free speech, our mail, the internet. However, it’s our fault; we don’t fight the people who try to push these abominations on us. The Left has millions of activists. We have a few wannabe conservative idiots that are too self-conscious about what the Left thinks of conservatives. That’s why we’re suffering the consequences.
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so if it walks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck……calling it a duck is a hate crime.
i was looking for an april 1 publish date on that article, but couldn’t find it.
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What about “fat cunt”?
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That would be double plus bad
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The whole notion of a “hate crime” is an assault not only on freedom of speech but freedom of thought.
What’s next, you gotta bang a fatty every month to prove you are not hating them?
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Of course, men prefer women with long legs. And, of course, it has nothing to do with height. And, of course, they prefer average height or a bit shorter, so long as she has long shapely legs. What idiots ever argued otherwise? Why would we even take them seriously?
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Anthony Ludovici argued that women with short legs are more fertile and that long legged women are masculine. He said that the preference for them was a leftover relic from the Greeks, who were largely homosexual. They believed that the male body was more beautiful than the female body, and when they made art with females in it, they made the female bodies look more masculine because they believed that that was more beautiful.
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Show me average-height slender women with long shapely legs and a tight ass that look masculine?
Now, he can argue this regarding very tall females, no matter how beautiful their bodies are.
On another note since you mentioned homosexuality and the Greeks, the Greeks were indeed largely homosexual. They taught homosexuality and that’s why they worshiped the male form. If we sanction gay marriage our society will also become more homosexual and die out eventually like theirs did.
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If a man is addicted to sexual variety, is it impossible to try to get him to be monogamous to one woman for the rest of his life?
[CH: Not at all. Just restrict his options. Or marry a beta.]
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Restrict options how?
[CH: There are many ways. Move to the suburbs (fewer nubile temptations). Marry him (divorce threat). Move to an area with more men. Push him to take a job in an industry with few young women. Never go out separately. Fatten him up with sugars and empty carbs (which also will lower his testosterone.) Hire a hot girl friend to insinuate that he has no chance with any other women. Make sure he never stumbles across this site.]
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I’ve had a longing to move to the suburbs for a while now.
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Would love sources for “sugars and empty carbs lower testosterone”
Also, how does LCHF affect testosterone?
What food maximizes test?
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Try cruciferous vegetables (broccoli and the like), they have an anti-estrogenic effect.
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Awesomeness.
Gotta love the Internet.
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I’m sorry, CH, I have to disagree with you here. She said “for the rest of his life.” That shit you reeled off does work, for a time, but it’s like the frog DNA thing in Jurassic Park man. Nature finds a way.
Case in point, I spent the last 20 years making moob apologies while my wife let her looks go swirling down the toilet. I actually TURNED DOWN PUSSY, for the sake of “honor” and “doing the right thing.” I eventually got so bad I was no longer being offered pussy, but I was being offered ass from dudes, and I actually tried to fuck one. I literally thought it must be the reason I was so repulsed by my hideous wife and had all these dudes coming onto me was because I really was gay after all.
THAT IS FUCKING EMASCULATED, brother. That’s where Karen’s man is heading if she tries to change his nature, and the only way he will remain true to that “for the rest of his life” is if he eats a bullet and ejects prematurely. Otherwise, finding his way to the red pill is inevitable.
You, sir, are a fucking superhero, a paragon of crimson virtue, a savior, for giving guys like me a new lease on life, and an alternative to suicide.
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god dam dude
honor and doing the right thing are still worth it to an extent
I mean I lost mad pussy being married to first wife but at least I was true to myself although yea after that shit yea always gonna leave the option of fucking with another chick on the table in any relationship
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You can always assist him in increasing his variety. One of the women who has been with me the longest (almost 6 years) regularly calls me with a sweet young thing to bring to my bed. So it’s not quite monogamy, but it ensures that she is one of the few women who has shared my bed for longer than any of the others. She also enjoys herself a lot more than she would otherwise.
So, it depends on what you are looking for – of all of the women I see, she’s the only one that has lasted, and by almost 2x as long as any of the others. Gotta admit, I’ve been on more vacations with her than any of the others. Mostly because she enjoys sharing, and I enjoy everything she has to offer.
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Threesomes? I’m horrified by that thought. Way too jealous to share my bed.
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you can spectate from the sidelines if it bothers you that much.
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No! My man cheats on me but I would be so scared to actually SEE it happening! I would likely have an emotional breakdown. It hurts so much to give your heart to someone and not have eyes for anyone else, when they don’t feel the same way about you 😦
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“when they don’t feel the same way about you”
Men and women feel differently about multiple partners.
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rest of life is a long dam time
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only if you’re lucky…
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yea luck could run out
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I prefer taller girls but thinking back to the girls I crushed on the most, they were short.
But either way, a girl better have long legs and a nice rounded ass. I don’t care nearly as much about a girl’s breast size, as long as they aren’t pathetically small.
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This is basically me. Give me a five foot seven, long legged, athletic bitch with a round, firm ass and im in heaven.
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Yes, as long as she’s a brunette. I’ll take blondes, but don’t like them.
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[…] [She’s Got Legs And She Knows How To Use Them] […]
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I honestly prefer women with short, stubby legs and a bulbous ass.
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“I honestly prefer women with short, stubby legs,” and don’t forget to add with stubbles on them, since soft skin is too feminine.
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So you’re a dwarf?
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I love women of all heights, although the reason for high-heels is it tends to lengthen the legs and causes the butt to stick out more as an animal in estrus will do naturally. This is well studied and while women and others can scream it isn’t so – it doesn’t make it any less true.
Too many people think repeating a lie makes it true – it doesn’t. Men still respond – we just do it quietly, and the women who want that attention also don’t broadcast it since her beta BF isn’t the target she’s interested in…
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Women can still be short with proportionally long legs. It’s the difference between petite and stubby.
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Exactly.
Short girls with short legs usually have thick as hell legs, not my preference in the smallest.
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Yeah for me! I am super short (5′) and I have proportionately long legs. Very long in fact. can’t post a pic though. I am away from my computer with the camera for a week.
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feministx
Yeah for me! I am super short (5′) and I have proportionately long legs.
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Calm down. I doubt yours are longer than Kates.
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I also doubt they are since she is 4 inches taller and seemingly leggy herself. Though I thought being long in torso was better for swimming. Not so?
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We only want to see them if they’re spread wide.
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Come on. What would that do for you anyways? Looking at pornographic images on the internet gets you no closer to getting laid.
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You forgot to slip in 2-3 references to your daddy, er, boyfriendboyfriendboyfriend.
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Oh yeah, make up your fucking mind.
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/04/10/hey-you/#comment-427665
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Shrugs. I play chick card. I dont know what I mean when I say it. Daddy daddy. My daddy just gave me some cake. Mmm
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Oh, dear. The poor man’s Scarlet O’Hara (that’s from an old movie – but you can google it).
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well, now they are kinda spread. This pic is from like 5 years ago
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/832/legsd.jpg/
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i’d toss you one probably.
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It’s like from somewhere on the net. What do you really look like?
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as a short guy, 90% of all women are my height or taller. tallest i dated was 5’9 (i’m 5’4″). but i’ve always been more attracted to a pretty face. never really noticed the legs (except when i have them in the air of course).
however, in the czech republic i DID notice the womens legs and DAAAAAMN were they amazing.
interesting study though.
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Holy shit! My tree trunk, radiation-shortened legs are preferred by women? Hail science! Dorfs gonna dorf! This is why I love this blog.
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Dorfs gonna dorf!
—Threadwinner for obscure reference.
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I almost felt beta for getting that. Thanks for backing me up.
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Dorf is obscure? Those videos were a staple at Schloss Eliot.
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And also women like broad shoulders and big dicks:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/men_shealth/9979264/Size-does-matter-study-finds.html
Manboobs everywhere wept.
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I know the title is in reference to ZZ Top’s song.
But is it also in reference to the perfect-looking Stacey Keibler? I always wondered why so many (including me) thought her so much hotter than all the wrestling chicks–despite the fact that Sable, Sunny, et al were very hot (p.s. Stacey was the hottest, but my first choice was Sunny in her heyday). Stacey also famously has really long legs. I think we have an explanation!
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The stats were overstated, but yeah.
5′ 11″ and her inseam is somewhere around 36, where they always exaggerated the # by giving the sole to hip/iliac-crest measurement of 41 or 42.
I too have imagined the Triangle-choke that woman could throw on.
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Walk like you own the street and criminals will leave you alone. slate.com/blogs/crime/20… 2 hours ago
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I do wonder what is the difference between the people who end up at a gas station and get stabbed in the throat and killed or the guy who gets shot in the head for some dude to join a gang
and me who have been in 8 million situations like that and just chillin
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I now sweep the streets I used to own… sigh.
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thank god I don’t have to do that he he he
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If heels do indeed do a good job of fooling men’s sensory apparatus, the supposed reproductive success of spinners may come down to nothing more than them being poorly endowed in just one area that is unusually cheap to overcome artificially. While barefoot shorties with stumpy little legs would have been passed up in the jungle, put 5-inchers on her, and she is now an average height woman with long, slender legs; pretty much ideal…
Similarly, cheap, safe and natural looking breast implants have resulted in reduced adult entertainment work opportunities penalty for being small breasted; in the process moving selection criteria to other areas, like butts, legs, lips and faces
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…I actually prefer women that are taller than me…I’m a little over 5’9…this is weird to most people…
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Only weird if you want them to weigh/lift more than you too.
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“So much for the hamster reasoning of that indignant ex who once insisted, when I innocently asked why she wore make-up and heels, that she does it “for myself”. No sweet cheeks, you do it, subconsciously or knowingly, to make yourself look more appealing to men.”
I don’t think it’s necessarily subconscious or conscious. There was a time when I was asexual and gave up on men forever, but I still cared if I had an acne breakout that day or not. And did a bunch of other stuff for my looks. You can say this behavior evolved and the function is to appeal to men, but that doesn’t make it concious or even subconscious. You should know.
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you did it because you knew you won’t be asexual forever and thus the way people saw you would have mattered in the future.
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There is a biological reason why long legs are attractive in women. Actually it is not the long legs – notice if you look at long legged and short legged women barefoot there is not very much difference. But once they put on shoes with high heels there is.
It is the way the lower part of the leg is proportioned in comparison to the thigh. The longer lower part gives advantage for running (e.g. for scouting or escaping from danger). And shorter legs in men usually are more stronger and sturdy, this is why juries preferred them like that.
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City of Dallas IT diversifies by replacing Miltons with Antwons in $83K jobs. Guess how that turned out?
http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/editorials/20130318-editorial-antoine-flowers-made-up-resume-and-another-dallas-hiring-malfunction.ece
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Obama doing what he was elected to do: steal. Get ready to hand over your 401K for the good of the People.
http://business.time.com/2013/04/10/obamas-budget-would-cap-tax-advantaged-savings/
“President Obama’s budget, just sent to Congress, proposes to cap tax-advantaged savings across all accounts at $3 million in order to raise $9 billion over 10 years.
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It’s not clear how the IRA cap would be enforced. Would savings beyond $3 million be disallowed? Or taxed right away? If you already have more than $3 million in IRA and 401(k) accounts, might you be forced to take immediate taxable distributions?
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The $3 million cutoff is itself something of a mystery. The White House reasons that $3 million is enough to provide an annual annuity of $205,000, which it further reasons is plenty income for any retiree. Yet there’s a lot wrong with this line of thinking.
Start with the mathematical assumption that $3 million can reliably generate $205,000 of annual income for a couple for 30 years or more of retirement. This calculation assumes a Herculean low-risk annual return of 7% at a time when Treasury bonds yield less than 2%. Don’t try this at home.”
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[…] She’s Got Legs And She Knows How To Use Them […]
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If I missed a similar comment, oh well….
Consider the fact that both women and men prefer the man to be taller.
If the woman has “longer legs” relative to her over-all height what area of the female body tends to end up closer to the male’s?
Likewise…throw on a pair of high-heeled shoes, it not only changes the alignment of the female body, but the positioning of the middle…..
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I quit going after tall chicks because they generally have GIANT GASHES! I mean split with an axe type openings.
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you owe me a keyboard fucker
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Those weren’t no chicks, bucko.
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I have known some women who had very long legs indeed.
They went all the way from the ground to heaven.
I sold an old car of mine today.
To a Museum in Germany.
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With Hitler’s harmonica under the driver’s seat and Ms. Braun’s stylishly-dark shade of lipstick in the glove box?
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So I just got dragged into an argument on some book reading forums I frequent with feminists. I’m absolutely shocked, baffled and mystified that these incredibly intelligent people believe that men’s prefference for 1(Thin, hourglass shaped women and 2) Women with lower sexual number counts for marriages are CULTURAL IN NATURE. I’m absolutely shocked.
I got such a massve shitstorm it was surreal.
Why do feminists dismiss evo psych so easily when they have literally no scientific evidence backing any of their own claims?
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Because they’re not thin, not hourglassed, and regretting their sluttitude.
Ergo, they shape the world to fit their own emotional needs.
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Libertardian
You can do math. Good. So get huge hordes of guns and bullets.
These are all way — stations on the path to real enlightenment.
And another thing: Take the Theory of Knives very seriously.
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“short women are more reproductively successful than tall women”
That is easily explained. Tall women have just as strong a preference for men taller than them that short women do. This is reproductively maladaptive, since many suitable mates won’t pass their height filter. They basically select themselves out of the gene pool.
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I have a longer torso myself, more like Phelps, but not as exaggerated. I’m 6′ 1″ but when I sit at the table beside my Dutch brother-in-law, who is 6′ 4″, my head is about 2″ taller then his.
I dated a very leggy model years ago, she was 5′ 11″, but her legs were about 6″ longer than mine. When she lay on her back and pulled back her legs, her knees were literally at ear level…
I like looking at girls with long legs, but hottest sex has always been with shorter chicks, with bigger butts and hour glass figures…
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You’re probably a good swimmer, with a torso like that.
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Well even though I also have huge wide feet like Phelps, I’m only an OK swimmer,
But I have an advantage in fighting, like boxing, as I have a long torso and also have long arms, so my reach is greater than expected, for someone my height…
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So women wear high heels to make their legs seem longer. Is that also why thugs wear baggy hanging crotch pants, to make their legs seem shorter?
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I appreciate cute young slim girls “in real life” as in facebook and on the street but I prefer fapping to mature, chubby, butterfaces, cottage cheese asses and I’m white.
Why is this happening?
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http://jezebel.com/this-reddit-guide-to-your-first-kiss-will-pretty-much-g-472512753
sillythrowaway0 writes a solid guide on how to kiss, to help out a 21yo virgin. It gets posted to Jezebel with a massive “this is all rape and creepy” article. sillythrowaway0 takes on the entire onslaught of old ugly fat cat ladies on Jezzie calm, cool, collected, and unapologetic like a boss.
Alpha of the month! lol
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ugh, i tried to read some of the jezebel comments, but they were unbearable. i wonder what the average woman who posts on jezebel looks like. i went to some good schools and i’ve noticed that hot smart chicks aren’t really that political or into feminism… i guess they’re having way too much fun flirting/hooking up with guys and hanging out with their girlfriends.
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Hahaha, Rihanna8.5 was 5’9. She had long legs. That was nice.
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These past few weeks have convinced me that ‘just be yourself’ isn’t as useless as it first sounds. I guess that sounds gay. But, idk…Girl6 has never been anything but a LJBF sort of thing for me…known her since before game and whatever — probably about a year. Just light, breezy conversation mostly — it was either that or be an emotional tampon, and lol, fuck that. So nothing deep, ever.
Anyway…
Girl6: So, graduating soon, I’m excited. but I’m stressed. How bout you?
Me: (I’ve always just put on this front of being a total slacker, unstressed, couldn’t-give-a-fuck but idk for some reason I’m just like ‘fuck it that’s not how I actually feel’)…uh, I’m pretty scared, actually. (laughs)
Girl6: Are you kidding?
Me: Nope. I’m fucking terrified. I have no idea how I’m going to get the money together for the bar app, how I’m going to pull out this last semester, and how I’m going to deal with just….being done with a huge chunk of my youth. I’m really stressed out.
Girl6: …..
Me: Maybe I’ll just jump off a fucking bridge, that’d be dooooope. (both laugh)
…
So whatevz…two days later, I’m just standing there and she comes by and does this thing where she puts a hand on my shoulder. She’s never touched me ever.
Girl6: Hey there…
Can’t chit-chat with her because I have other shit to do, but she gives me a hug when we part ways. Lolwtf. She’s not a touchy-feely type. She started saying ‘hi’ more on fb and shit too. I notice that the conversation centers on me way more.
…
I mean, coincidence? Idk.
I don’t really care if I fuck her or not.
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Dudes, check out recent photos of Avril Lavigne (a former 10 in my opinion). Even the drastically beautiful Avril Lavigne is hitting the wall and she’s only about 30.
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…Avril Lavigne…a 10…wtf…fatal runtime error…
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dude she’s beautiful IMO . or was up til age 26
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Oh yeah….I watched that movie Alfie.
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What a great movie!
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You’d better be talking about the Michael Caine original, not the Jude Law muck-up.
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Oh….ya I liked the Jude Law version.
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So, you condone that stuff? No? Well, you gotta watch what you say… people will get the wrong idea… I don’t wanna be kissing Nat King Cole here.
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Well, being bi-racial…lol, I don’t really give a fuck about it either way.
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Obviously… 🙄
/nevermind
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lolwtf? Ya, goodfellas was a good movie…….?
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Although OT, everyone must read this article. It’s too funny:
The Marriage Proposal Expert (a woman, of course):
Woman Marriage Proposal Expert>
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The woman’s boyfriend is Beta of the month.
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…my god…I literally just fucking threw up in the back of my throat…I wouldn’t even lift a finger for that doughy broad, let alone propose marriage…
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Verging on omega. As well as Exhibit 25,338 on how British women suck.
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goddamn……he….and then she….and the pictures….and now he’s……..
w-why….?? why does this exist?!?
Beta of the ETERNITY. And just makes me sad as a man. Every guy we introduce to the red pill is saved this guy’s fate…photographs of him begging a hideous, completely ungrateful, over-entitled fatty who literally created and promotes her business venture based around slagging on her fiancé.
And the guy is giving it another go…I don’t even…
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We don’t often find common ground, but you took the immediate string of thoughts clear out of my head, verbatim.
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Actually at my local Scarlett’s, because of the competition she’d face, Kate Upton would have some difficulty selling $25 lap dances. No joke. She’s way too big and would get turned down A LOT. Just so many cuter girls there to pick from.
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Sorry to reply to my own post, but… No joke–I have 4 girls on the regular at my local Scarlett’s who are little all-natural cuties (aged 19-21) and to prove my point, *I* would turn down Kate Upton. Not kidding. Not being a “keyboard badass.” She’s not cute enough to be worth my limited time at a smoke-filled strip club. My little regular cuties blow her away–face and body. Admittedly I’m a leg/ass man who really prefers brunettes and cute natural boobs and I’m not really into blondes with big floppy boobs. But I still tell you that Kate Upton would not be a top earner at the Scarlett’s in my city. BTW, big boobed girls and little cuties, ALL men are leg/ass men (and pretty face men), and one of the greatest pleasures I get in life is dealing with little cute brunettes with natural boobs who I think are super cute but who do NOT have huge egos because they wrongly thing that men want blondes with big boobs. Only rednecks like blondes with big boobs over cute little brunettes with cute little boobs and perfect legs and pretty face.
In short, all men care about the following in this order: beautiful face, perfect legs and ass, cute *real* boobs of their natural A or B size. You can switch order of face and legs/ass but it’s always the case that big boobs (especially fake) are not as important or attractive as nice legs/ass, which show the girls has kept herself in shape and can’t be faked.
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if u want to see some butt ugly short legged round bellied indian women, go to peru fucking gross
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Guatemala’s even worse
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CHICAGO (AP) — She inspired a novel and a movie starring Robert Redford when in 1949 she lured a major league ballplayer she’d never met into a hotel room with a cryptic note and shot him, nearly killing him. …
The story began with what appeared to be just another young woman’s crush on Eddie Waitkus, the Chicago Cubs’ handsome first baseman. So complete was this crush that the teenager set a place for Waitkus, whom she’d never met, at the family dinner table. She turned her bedroom into a shrine to him, and put his photo under her pillow.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/obsessed-fan-who-shot-player-inspired-movie-dies
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I’m tall and because of that I have had my experience with many, many tall women, often very tall 5’10” (178-180) and taller.
The one commonality all have is a huge vagina.
OB/GYN doctors actually have a PC term for this, a “tall” vagina, so as not to crush the poor dear by using the more appropriate adjective “huge”, maybe “cave-like”, “two car garage”. The equipment is not merely longer, its much larger also, somewhat like the difference between a spade and a shovel.
From my first knuckle to my fourth (the one for the little finger, it is 4 inches. Most of the time, I have no issue get my hand rammed up in there to the knuckles. Sometimes I have to scrunch it down, bend my palm into sort of a “u”. And that is just the opening that is constrained by the pelvic bone. Once my fingers are inside, I can often “twiddle” them around with little resistance. Maybe some. A man with a smaller hand could probably fist them easily.
There is a “test” to see if you would make a good surgeon, put something slippery on your fingers like dish soap, stick them up inside a water glass holding some dental floss and see if you could “tie” the floss into a knot.
You would find far more comfortable and spacious “working” conditions inside the vagina of a tall girl.
So I am tall and given my awareness as to the normal distribution of penis length, and given my experience with these tall women, I would think most men would find them entirely too “uncomfortable” or “unsatisfying”.
When you can barely get any friction, it has a double whammy on men. First, you have trouble having orgasm without extreme effort and exertion, and it just might not happen at all. There is that whole “I’m too small for her” baggage to carry.
And I find the standard deviation of vagina size and height correlation has “small standard deviation and a much steeper slope”. A woman that is 5’8″ is getting much closer towards a more normal size than one that is 5’9″. Still larger than normal, but more workable. And at 5’7″, you get right back into normal sizes. And for me, pretty any woman below 5’6″ is likely going to require lubricant. I had one girlfriend that was 5’3″ and it was impossible without lubricant.
So put that in perspective. Average female height is 5’4″ and I need lube and for a woman that is 5’10”, I am banging it against the side in order to feel anything. There is old Texas saying “I had to tie a bale of hay to my ass to keep from falling in”.
So I have this theory, two fold theory, that tall women are very exclusive about wanting tall men exactly for reasons of perceived penis size. And I think they so do as much because they don’t like “having their face rubbed” in the fact that they have a ridiculously huge vagina as much as they do for sexual pleasure.
The second part is that you don’t see tall women/shorter men couples so much is because the men leave. I don’t think men see a tall woman and think “Oh, she just is not attractive” , but rather due to first, the filter of that tall woman wanting a taller man. Then if they “get in”, they don’t stay. Life is just too short to be with a woman with a huge vagina relative to your penis size.
The hamsters of tall women have run overtime rationalizing, “His ego makes him conscious of standing next to a taller woman. He just didn’t want to appear shorter than me.”
I say, no. His dick didn’t like fucking a garage.
I like tall women. I prefer how they look, but the first time fucking someone of normal height after a relationship with a tall woman, I can’t help but think “Yeah, that’s much better.”
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Researchers found penis size correlates with digit ratio, no correlation found for height.
But your height to vagina correlation theory has been true in my personal experience.
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Yeah. I’m 5’101/2″ (five foot ten and a half, to be precise) and my ex GF was 5’7″. Super hot ballerina body–super thin, six pack abs, perfect legs and ass, and it was ONLY because she was in extremely good shape that she was (barely) small enough for me. Not really a matter of my ego re: my height, but a little of that and what you write about. Sometimes I had to work really hard due to lack of friction. Also she was 34-37 while we dated and I fear she rode the cock carousel pretty well in her 20s and had had some big cocks in her. She was good in bed but I prefer little 5’2″ cuties that make me feel more manly…just the truth, and they like me better too. A 5’7″ girl is 5’11” with heels….and men’s (dress) shoes have a one inch heel too, BTW, so at parties I’m still taller a little, but I like it better when my girls is 5’5″ or shorter.
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Interesting. What about proportionality and thickness? Say, two girls of equal height but different leg lengths? Or one slender and the other thick? I would expect slender girls with proportionately longer legs to have smaller vadges than heavier girls or those with bigger torsos.
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It also explains why some dudes here like little women, because they’re expected to be tight. I’ll accept it on face value — may be yet another explanation on why short women have “greater reproductive success” — although reproducing with a small woman also ensures that any sons you have will have a difficult time in the SMP.
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Verified. I’m 6’2″ and once dated a 6’4″ girl with an hourglass shape.
She was cavernous. Spelunkable. It was (old joke alert) throwing the pickle down the hallway.
She had severe menstrual issues too. As in, she hadn’t had menses, at least not many of them. It’s not good to be so tall.
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Pickle? I thought it was “like throwing a hotdog down a hallway”
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Just jelq it.
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The more you know.
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Wow, even tall Asian girls, or you didn’t get any Asian women 5’8″‘ and up?
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That said, one of the tightest cunts I ever fucked was on a 6-footer, as tight as the 4’11” one.
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Maybe one or both of her parents are shorties. Tallness is recessive, so I’d expect cavernous cunts to occur in women if their parents are also tall.
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Unknown; she never intimated parental height, but she was a stunner with loooooong, perfect legs and a tight ass (think Nicole Kidman in Moulin Rouge) and said her mother was beautiful, implication being that she got her looks from mom, so I would presume her mother was on the tall side as well.
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Like throwing a hot dog down the hall.
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Look at this fatty……she is complaining her huband cheated on her……LOL……..http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2308100/My-cheating-husbands-row-31-seat-7-Wronged-wifes-hilarious-revenge-cheating-husband-Wrestlemania.html
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jesus christ you guys are seriously fucking pissing me off with these fatty links. dude. you fucking cunt, your fatness and sloth was the “homewrecker” of your home you piece of garbage
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Two things:
1. we’re not talking extremely long torso women, like Phelps, which would be unattractive. The distinction is between women with balanced torso (upper body same length as legs) and short torso women (with an upper body shorter than their legs). Those 2 designations also apply to men (balanced torso, track build), but men also have torsos longer than their legs (swimmer build).
2. we’re not talking about short or tall girls. We’re talking about short torso, long torso. That site opined a shorter woman with longish legs maybe the ideal. However, the ideal is usually only exhibited by a few. Usually, short torso women are tall and “balanced” torso women are short.
The goal of this inquiry should be:
1. do long or average torso women have different taste in men than short torso women? Do you need to neg them more or less? Chase them more or less?
2. which types of women should a man focus on, depending on his level of alpha, or his outward masculinity? I’ve noticed many short torso/long legged women have effeminate boyfriends.
3. are masculine short-legged men the natural partner for feminine long-legged women, or does like mate with like? I think it’s the latter, but it should be easy to prove or disprove by looking at couples.
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The key point here is head peck. Some PDA can be alpha. My ballerina GF loved it when I would make out with her at a local restaurant on a Sunday afternoon. She was a bit of a butteface (hot bod) and a sex fiend and she loved it.
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With all this in consideration, imagine my disgust upon recently fucking a girl who was 5’3″ and finding out she was completely blown out from tons of dick.
Here I was figuring I’d have to struggle to fit in. And it’s not because I’m hung like a lightswitch. She’s just a soulkilled slut.
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CH, a lot of girls have told me they’re horniest when on their period; do you think this is just another example of females not having a fucking clue about themselves?
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Perhaps a few things at work. She’s unable to have vaginal sex due to hormonally caused discharge. She knows you won’t touch her (hopefully) which psychologically makes her want it more, not withstanding the hormones themselves possibly playing a factor. Maybe evolution has gifted her with this increased arousal to drive her towards more “fun” ways of satisfying your sex drive during her no go week, lest you find it somewhere else. That magical week of handjobs and oral while simultaneously denying her release only leads to wild sex about one week after the beginning of the cycle, which normally is only a few days until ovulation. Careful what you do during that welcoming back freak session…
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