It’s a scientific fact that women are attracted to men with the suite of personality traits known as the “dark triad”: Narcissism, Machiavellianism, and psychopathy; aka the stuff of which jerks, assholes and badboys are made.
Any man who’s lived a day in his life knows that chicks dig jerks, but now we have the imprimatur of science to confirm what we can all see with our own eyes. The connection to game should be obvious. Many game concepts are essentially retrofitted Dark Triad traits and associated behaviors, allowing the practitioner of the charismatic arts to capture for himself some of the cryptic allure that men naturally blessed with badboy personality possess.
Explanations for the appeal to women of the male Dark Triad have been discussed before, within the hallowed halls of Le Chateau, but usually from esoteric evolutionary theory. Perhaps there are other, more immediate and practical, reasons why men who score high in the Dark Triad do so well with women? Let’s look at the definitions for each of the three relevant traits:
Narcissism
Narcissism is an egotistical preoccupation with self. Because of all their experience with maintaining their self image, people who score high for narcissism will often appear charming but their narcissism will later lead to extreme difficulty in developing close relationships.
Narcissistic men will be better at building an attractive identity, crafting an alluring image, dressing themselves for maximum impact, and comporting themselves with the utmost self-regard. Women love all these characteristics in men, even if these traits are not societally beneficial in numbers exceeding a tiny percentage of men. A man who is full of himself is a man who is full of women’s love.
Machiavellianism
Machiavellianism is a tendency to be manipulative and deceitful. It usually stems from a lack of respect or disillusionment for others.
You cannot properly seduce women if you harbor illusions about their nature. A Machiavellian Man, owing to his willingness to engage in personally, and oftentimes mutually, advantageous deceits, is a skilled hand in the subtle feints of flirting. No seduction will take full flight without recourse to innuendo and barely concealed intent. The tacitly adversarial quality of seduction emanates from the fundamental premise that the reproductive goals of men and women are at odds, and the Machiavellian is the man best equipped to leverage that sweet antagonism to his ends.
Psychopathy
Psychopathy reflects shallow emotional responses. The relative lack of emotions results in high stress tolerance, low empathy, little guilt and leads them to seek extremely stimulating activities, resulting in impusivity and a disposition towards interpersonal conflict.
The darkest of the three traits. It’s a short neural skip from mostly benign, promiscuous psychopath to Hannibal Lector. What is it about psychopaths that women can’t get thoughts of them out of their heads? Besides their evocation of high status shamans and warriors of EEA yore, psychopaths bring one big advantage to the mating arena that quickly propels them to the top — fearlessness. That dead zone in their prefrontal gray matter means that psychopaths don’t feel much when women reject them. No hurt, no guilt, no shame, no doubt, no anger, no nothing. Imagine the power at your fingertips if you had the ice cold stones to approach thousands of women nonstop without suffering even the slightest ding to your emotional state from any rejections. Imagine that, coupled with this exotic imperviousness, you impulsively hit on any woman who piqued your interest. I don’t think you’ll need a calculator to figure out how fast your notch count would rise given these personality priors. Chicks dig a go-getter.
While the average self-deprecating beta male will find it nearly impossible to reconfigure his emotions and thought patterns to match that of the natural born narcissist, Machiavellian, and psychopath, he has now at his disposal tools and concepts — which fly under the banner of “game” — to inch himself closer to Dark Triad triumph. A small adjustment here, a studied mimickry there, and that invisible boring beta male is suddenly finding that the veldt of vagina open to his predations has expanded in every direction.
The above quotes were taken from the online Dark Triad Personality Test, which you can try for yourselves here. If you think you have an unusually low score, don’t fret; participants are likely self-selected narcissists boosting the scoring curve. After all, who but a narcissist would be happy to take this test?

cultures
wherein women’s baser instincts
to follow the serpent (lostas cockas)
and taste the apple (apple = assle = asshole in latin zlzolozoozlzoz)
were not contained
and controlled
by religion
and heroic codes of honor
no civilization
nor science
nor high art
nor philosophy
nor poetry
nor religion
ever developed
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Give credit where credit its due. Genesis 3 and you stole it from me.
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culturis
quo turpior mulierum instinctus
sequi serpentem (lostas cockas)
degustatum pupillam (= pupillam assle zlzolozoozlzoz-culus latine)
non continentur
et sobrie
per religionem
et heroicum honorum codes
nullam nisl
neque scientia
nee altis es
nee philosophia,
nee carmina
nec religionem
sæcula succrevit
lzozozozzoozozozozo
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Biblia Vulgata.
Funny. But you really should remember.
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lzozozozozo
MANY OF YOUZ DO NOT REALIZE
THE GREAT TROUBLE DA GBFM GOES THROUGH
TO COMMUNICATE WITH YOU IMEBEECILILLIC BETAS dummy dmmie dummy BETATSS LZOZLZOLZOZO
dis is because my first language first language is LATIN
so i think and write aeevrything in LATIN veeverything in latin first
and then i go through teh trouble
i come down off my high mountain
by translating the LATIN
into englishez
shakepsearzean englsishez
so al ll u dummies can be served by basking in da GREATNESS of the GBFM zlozlozozoz
if ye wish to promebe probe da full tdepth of my soul
read the GBFM in the original:
“Da womenz ode professio”
futuit alpha et beta dollariis
dat unde nos volvuntur
da nobis butthexting cockass futuit et iam sugit
et in eam, anuthes deosul
futuit alpha et beta dollariis
DA sit via da pascebant
transferre ad assetss dose qui butthext
cuckold dose, qui pro nobis panem
alpha et beta dollariis futuit
suus docebit nos quid sumus: ‘di quoque inscriptus
da nobis assetts a betas vellit
da nobis per nostra post Eliphaz desol violet poo
lzozozlzzolzlzlzlz
da nobis dextras et cessent Eliphaz cuckold betas cockhold
quo die nos docuerunt datsz in MBA paulatim scholam
nulla veritas neque judicium in legibus suis, sicut da feiisnsits videre
et da magni dicunt libros menz erat, omnes stultos.
sic, sic, ego me ipsum gmats
Dey bernenakifed animam meam, reliquit me cum felibus
zlzlzzozozozo
which is far supeiroer and conatins far more subtle meaningsz and nuances and poetry and soul than the dumbed-down english vversion version which i do for u lazy asses who would rather game pre-buttoccked bernekekanififed buttholes than MAN UP and READ AND LEANRRN LEATIN!!! LATNIN!!!!
zlzozozozo
teh inferv inferiror versiosn:
“da professional womenz ode”
alpha fucks and beta bucks
dat is how we roll
da butthexting cockass we fucks and sucks
and in our anuthes it doth deosul
alpha fucks and beta bucks
it is da way of da fed
to transfer assetss to dose who butthext
cuckold dose who pay for our bread
beta bucks and alpha fucks
it’s what day teach us we;’re entitled too
da assetts from betas we plucks
after da alphas desol us through our hole for poo
lzozozlzzolzlzlzlz
cuckold da betas cockhold da alphas
datsz what day taught us in mba grad school
as da feiisnsits see no truth nor justice in their laws
and say da great books for menz was all fools.
yes, yes, i did very good on my gmats
dey bernenakifed my soul away, left me with cats
zlzlzzozozozo
(as one can see zlozozozozoz is a universal languaage)
lzozoozozozozozozo
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There is no god but Heartiste, and GBFM is his prophet.
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lozozlzozoz het hey heartsstzizteeZz!!!
when i was little
they put me in a spacial class special class
for special artistic children
and todya i was going throug
some old pictures from grade school
and i noticed
the dummies
had misspelled “artistic” on the door
with “austistic”!
dummey dummy dummieszz!!!
r and u are very very differnet lettersz!
ididtoiostz!!
ru an idiot if your reverse your r’s and u’s?
yes ur!
lzozozozoozozoozozozo
z
zlzozlzozozozozozozoz
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GBFM took the test but his results could not be displayed in something as limiting as a three-dimensional graph. There is also evidence that the server attained consciousness during the process, aborted the infant proto-Skynet, and then ascended to a higher plane.
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lzozozzozol
yes in my psychology class in college the essay question was, “What is the dark triad?”
so i thougought
and thought
and thought
and hinked baout it
and thought some more
and thought
and thinked
and thinked and theought
and thought and thought
and then
it hit me
The Dark Triad is
da GBFMs
big black lotsasoaz cockaksks
and his two ballz! (count dem 1 2!!!)
and I proved it too:
2 balls + 1 cockas = 3 = triad
QED
lzozozozozozolozozozo
for some reason da ididiton asshole teahcerz made a mistake
and gave me
an
F
and as a ruestlt result i have been considered unemployable
uneeplomeyyablelzl
unepelelmployablelzllz
which sucks
beause
i would lve love kov e love to be
a barista
in starbuckz
where i could take a shot of epsresso
for every shot i served
and go
zlzlzozoozzoozozzz
all
day long
z;zlzlozlozozozlzzzozz
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Wonder how many people have gotten a college degree for $100,0000+ thanks to Bernanke inflation only to learn that starbucks was the best job they could get?! Would be funny to ponder if it weren’t so true.
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Because the highs are higher and the lows a dangerous thrill. Easy. Would you rather ride a roller coaster or a cattle car?
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Check out the opening two paragraphs:
http://www.salon.com/2013/03/22/my_bad_sex_wasnt_rape/
Pretty sure these two bros had Dark Triad elements aplenty.
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Na. They were just horny.
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Seems a bit Dark Triad to me…
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Na. Boys will be boys.
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Alpha asks: “Are you using birth control?” in mid-fuck. Not pre-fuck, but mid-fuck. At the precise moment when his throbbing cock is lodged deep in her teen cunt.
Doesn’t bother to wait for her reply before answering his own question: “Oh, who cares — if you get pregnant, it’s your fault.” Condomless fuck with a hot, nubile girl, with the added bonus of zero obligation toward any potential bastard spawn.
The alphas purposely leave the girl’s bra and panties on the grass before whisking her away in their automobile. She doesn’t protest because she’s too busy enjoying the afterglow of her post-coital orgasmic bliss with not one, but two, studly, young men. The girl’s undergarments serve as indisputable evidence of the alphas’ carnal conquest in plain sight, for all to see.
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This.
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“Wait, I left my underwear back there!”
“STFU… you’re lucky we’re even driving you back.”
~wet spot on back seat~
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Guys who will tag team a girl are fags. Period.
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I ask, only after I’ve blown my load in them.. More than a few will tell me that they aren’t, and they always force their boyfriends to wear a condom. I make it a point to tell them, that I’ll never wear a condom when I f**k them since I like knowing that when I cum, it means something to them. That gets them so hot that it usually kicks off another go-round.
I figure they have boyfriends to cover if they get pregnant, who are they going to go after for money, the dangerous guy, or the dependable one that does what he’s told to do?
Thanks Betas… Love your girlfriends…🙂
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Doesn’t nubile equal underage?
Even if I was into nubile/underage girls – which I am not – I would be scared to get in trouble with the law.
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If I had a daughter who engaged in something this foul, she would be disowned outright.
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Notice the similarity between “psychopathy” and “confidence?” So this is what it means when women say they are attracted to confident men…
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Silly misogynist… real women prefer self-deprecating, passive equalists!
(best part of that video: the stuttering mid-sentence backturn at 1:15)
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This shit looks like it was recorded on BetaMax.
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why all the women in the show are so ugly, have manly features!
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BETA max
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What a fag!!!
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The hand in the air waiting for permission to speak… faaag!
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His lookalike, Harold from the Red Green Show, is more alpha than he is.
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Arm straight and palm out to show off a wedding ring? lzzolozozozlolz
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Unbelievable. Not only did his wife have to ask HIM out… she took his last name and hyphenated it with hers. I’m guessing she’s his beard but even if this dude is straight he’s either getting cheated on or getting pegged on the reg. Revolting, mincing beta faggotry.
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If he’s getting pegged he’s also getting cheated on.
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Why? Because sex is violent.
Many many women want the thundergod himself to strike down and absolutely sledgehammer and abuse the living bejeezus out of them. And they think supplicating betas incapable of brutalizing them to the extent they want.
I’ve had more than one girl say [during the act] that they liked when it hurt abit.
Of course, the rules of female society dictate they’re never allowed to say/admit-to any of this IRL.
Nothing[sic] Shocking.
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Me too. I like it better when it hurts.
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No thanks
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You…or the dude?
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I think the best sex is when it looks like it is going to hurt but then it doesn’t. That’s perfect, imo.
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Well you might think that, but I suggest you acquire some practical experience first.
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I have practical experience🙂
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oooooo! Maya got a boyfriend?
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Lol. Based on my experience, I think it’s best to fly around the world in a spaceship counter clockwise only. Not clockwise. Counter clockwise is perfect imo.
[CH: Ironically, this is how the G spot should be massaged.]
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Really? I commend you for being perceptive enough to know that. I certainly did not know myself.
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Hearts was joking. When you have sex with the right man it doesn’t matter what you do in bed because it always feels amazing.
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Ask your BOYFRIEND BOYFRIEND BOYFRIEND…
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feministx
Me: former American Soldier and veteran of the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars plus I’m White and very Fair
You: Of South Asian descent and much darker than me
My Grandfather: Irish Republican Army man who fled when the British Black and Tan Soldiers(Criminal prisoners trained and released on Ireland) when they realized he would kill them anywhere including in front of a Christian (Catholic)Church because his oldest brother was killed as a British Soldier in the First World War etc.
My Great Uncle: Died as First World War Soldier on Western Front trying to save the Empire
Scenario: I dress up in a colonial British Empire Soldier’s Uniform set to seize, plunder and ravish the British Crown Jewel(British South Asia—India) woman(you) impregnating you with a dozen bastard half breed spawn before abandoning you to go elsewhere. You gush with delight at my Aryan god-like presence and get pretty kids plus you love every minute of it as well as await my return which never comes. LOL! LMAO!!!
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Fact: That story earned zero ‘gina tingle from me.
I’ll help you out so you can do better next time:
1) You tried to establish relative value to me by relying on you being white? What are there like 500 million white men in the world? Clearly many of them are omega, so the fact that you thought that was enough to be better than me is sort of blunt. Don’t be cro magnon, operating under brute generalizations. Women are more sensitive to detail than that. Have some finesse. The devil is in the details.
2) No ancestor stationed in India? Pity. That was the one that would have counted.
3) Bastard children? Nah, not erotic. I mean, you would ideally want to be in a position where the promise of being together forever is some kind of theoretical possibility in the girl’s mind but the girl thinks she has to work hard for it (be really super devoted and whatnot). Offering to impregnate me and then promising to leave me does not help with that.
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feministx
All Irishmen are my relatives to one degree or another. Like most people I don’t know what my relatives did or did not do beyond 3 or 4 generations. You’re sure long winded plus you shit test, rant and rave like an Irish girl more than a South Asian girl. It’s also curious that you spent so many words and time to refute me when simple “Go away” would’ve sufficed. My intent was to pussy block the mother hen. I succeeded. Your friends abandoned you to be all alone except for your cats. Aren’t you furious because I got you too invested and wasted your time? I’m not expecting an honest answer. Bye!!! LOL! LMAO! lzlzlzlzlzlz,
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“It’s also curious that you spent so many words and time to refute me when simple “Go away” would’ve sufficed. ”
innit? It’s because I wanted to help you, not “reject” you (though rejection has little meaning in an anonymous internet environment like this).
I feel for you. Young veterans get interested in me from time to time, and a thing I notice about them is that they show clear signs of having been in all male or nearly all male environments for a long time. My co-worker next to me is a sissy boy (he’d probably even admit to it), but when he cracks a joke or makes an attempt at a clever comment, he has constant feedback from women. He always sees what gets a giggle and what gets ignored or shrugged off. That’s important to having “game.”
The problem with a lot of military guys is that they’ve been in this brah culture without women, so they say so much stuff that gets off the deep end. Like among dudes, you can say all sorts of absurd stuff and guys will run with it, but girls stand a high chance of not getting it and thinking you are weird.
Look doc, somehow your mind went down a slipperly slope till you got to the point where you thought it would be a good idea to tell me about this bastard children fantasy of yours. I’m guessing that took years of lack of feedback from women for you to get to the point where you would blurt out something that crazy.
You asked about which dark triad trait is most effective at developing? Well for you, it will be most effective to first really carefully observe the reactions of women when you push the gradually envelope by acting jerkish or macho. Then you willl have a better idea of what gets a positive reaction and what women don’t get.
Hint- stories of your ancestor’s military history fits squarely in the camp of stuff that will impress men more than women.
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“I like it better when it hurts.”
Which is exactly the point that I was making the other day: Your body was wired [biochemically, metabolically, neurologically] to desire the pain of childbirth [followed by the endorphin-driven ecstasy of afterbirth].
And you postmodern women, trapped in the nihilism of the asinine careers which you choose to pursue – with your craving for “50 Shades of Gray” and BDSM and having your Chechen Terrorist boyfriend beat the living crap out of you – you postmodern women are desperately trying to satisfy your body’s urgent need to experience the pain which has been denied it – the supreme pain of childbirth.
My advice to you, FX: Find yourself a good man, and start making babies with him.
And don’t stop making babies with him until you’ve finished menopause.
Cause them ovaries of yours are already shrivelling, and the clock is running out.
You can either choose Life, which is childbirth, or you can choose Death, which is growing old with your cats and your cat litter and your Toxoplasma Gondii, and your “50 Shades of Gray” books-on-tape.
But the desire for pain must be satiated.
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That’s not why!
The type of sex that a man has with a woman conveys his status to her. If he has the right type of sex with her she knows in her uterus that a powerful man desires her. Violent pounding is one of the best ways to express to her that she is a hot piece of meat, being fucked by a god.
It’s all about hypergamy.
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YES! Firsthand experience agrees with this. Also, nominate guy in video for Beta of the Year
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What, you didn’t know that most women are masochists?
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Not pain, but almost all women like light bondage and rape fantasy during sex. Now of course they don’t want to actually be raped by some homeless guy who jumps out of the bushes with a knife. But with their approved lover, of course they like being tied up and dominated.
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I’d say about 1 out 3 women I have been with liked it rough but of course would never ever admit it and pretend they were delicate flowers as pure as the driven snow.
Women are f*ck’n weird, but I love them.
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Women are sexually excited by suavely delivered evil, in speech or action; nothing excites them more.
Although we’ll never see a Marquise de Sade — genius is male — the earnest types gathered here would be thunderstruck to discover the instant and gleeful depravity available to every female, at any time.
Mothers, sisters, daughters and maiden aunts: once well and truly soaked, they are hilarious devils.
Very few men relish this fact.
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Except, ironically, Oscar Wilde.
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False. This is how a creep thinks his sleaziness is interpreted by the world. Meanwhile his gray chest hair, perma-tan, nursing-home libido, and skin-crawling smile make vaginae dry up like the psoriasis on his scalp.
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What age do women hit menopause again?
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Narcissism = 18
Machiavellianism = 22
Psychopathy = 38
That’s me.
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Welcome to CH, junior.
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That test….not sure if I should answer honestly or should I lie and pretend to be normal like any psychopath should do.
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+1
On another note, watch Bale in “American Psycho.” All three traits come out in his character.
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I don’t know. The test says I’m on the fifth percentile for psychopathy and machiavellianism and on the 55th percentile for narcissism … Probably something wrong with the test.
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hahahahahahhaha… no, there’s nothing wrong with the test. That result is so you.
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So says the narcissist. I see what you did there.
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Narcissim : 4
Machiavellianism: 3.6
Psychopathy:😉
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And i lied about one of them😉
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N 52
M 42
P 35
Average?
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N 52
M 47
P 36
Assuming equal distribution of scores, 50 50 50 will be the average. We are below average. Gotta be more assholish
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Narcissism – 69 percentile
Machiavellianism – 67 percentile
Psychopathy – 45 percentile…DRAT!
I will work to deaden my emotions…
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hhahahahahahahahahhaha
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@Maya
I had a girl take the test here at work. She scored high on narcissism and very low on the other two. I’d bet that’s pretty typical for women in general.
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Narcissism 60.2%ile
Machiavellianism 37.9%ile
Psychopathy 67.4%ile
Narc score slightly above average… my attitude is simply to look out for No.1 because nobody else will!
My relatively low Mach score is undoubtedly from my unwillingness to actually lie, although I am certainly not above evasive statements.
My Psych score is about 1 sigma above the mean.
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Narcissism – 81.3
Machiavellianism – 54.9
Psychopathy – 47.7
Latent Sadism – 0
……because its in full bloom.
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Narcissism – 81
Machiavellianism – 72
Psychopathy – 71
Seems about right… I have had to learn to fake my emotions over the course of my life… but I do feel bad if I intentionally screw someone over.
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I scored 98 narcissism 96 psycho 90 machiavellianism
Curious as to what others here scored including CH and PUA’s – I’d imagine it Is way above avg
Btw I read Christie’s ” studies in machiavellianism ” a few years ago, a book
that the test happens to cite. It confirms in emotionless scientific language the truth of amorality.
A conclusion I wrote down at the time : “efficient actions are Correct Actions” – if the action gets you what you want in life it is correct. Obviously there is the caveat you do not want to do illegal crimes and gratuitously hurt people. But I became a much freer man when I read the book, a top 10 affecting my life
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Narc – 70%
Machavellian… – 95%
Psychopathy – 90%
umm…yea.
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Old news. We all know women are full of themselves, manipulative, and evil.
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Yeah female lawyer
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Narcissism 3.6/4 (95.2 percintile)
Machiavellianism 3.5/4 (90.3 percintile)
Psychopathy 3/4 (79.1 percintile)
The last 5 years of my life have made me a calloused, cynical bastard.
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N – 60
M – 55
P – 45
The sentence above feels awful to deaden emotions.
I notice the above frame the NMP in neutral/good way as in willingness to take care of one’s look, perform subtlety in actions, and play the numbers game respectively. Yet is it is easy to read interpret care, empathy, and basically non-selfish qualities are to be punished rather than inert or better in attraction. I guess that’s my 45% ranking showing.
I wonder how much my P holds me back compared to the N and M.
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I haven’t taken the test yet. My score doesn’t matter anyway, being that it’s not relevant to my value to society anyway.
I’ll do Heartiste instead:
Narcissism- 75th percentile: When considering all the components of narcissism, I had to dock Hearts somewhat because he has the kind of mind that will overwhelmingly tend to choose an objective assessment of himself over a flattering assessment. I also had to dock hearts somewhat because he will also tend to choose the objective assessment of other people’s assessment of him over the narcissistic assessment. For example, suppose we have a southern belle that smiles and waves at every person she passes on the street. If she walks by a man, the narcissistic assessment is to say “that chick smiled and waved and me. She digs me.” The objective assessment is to say “she appears to be the type that waves at everybody.” Hearts will tend to choose the latter.
I bet dozens of posters on this blog have higher self-assessments and more inflated assessments of how others view them than Heartiste, but I also bet most of those posters like themselves less than heartiste. For that, Hearts gets 75th percentile.
Machiavellianism: 99th percentile: Apparently, Heartiste is the sort of fella that thrives on gaining as much attachment, admiration and willingness from women as possible while knowing fully well that his intention is to leave these women high and dry after a short period. Because he actively seeks this lifestyle with manipulative plots again and again, he gets 99th percentile.
Psychopathy- 80th percentile: While being capable of being in the 99th percentile here, Heartiste holds certain moral ideals and his viewpoint in life is pretty moralistic. Also, the worst 5% of men are actual criminals. So, assuming that Heartiste is not someone that relies on lying to people about his credentials or something, he gets only 80th percentile.
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I scored 32nd percentile for narcissism, 20th for machiavellianism, 0.2nd percentile (!!) for psychopathy.
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❤
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I was looking at our bookeeper today: sweetest girl you ever met personality wise: young but homely. I was reflecting on what her personality would Probably (not definitely, but most probably) would be if she were a 9 or 10: totally different but most likely not sweetest girl I ever met. Part of that would be protection from all the comers but part of it would be opportunism. Reminds me of what I told a girl who adored her cat once: “It would kill and eat you if it could”
Now onto the subject at hand:
1.) “to seek extremely stimulating activities”: that I have.
2.) “resulting in impusivity and a disposition towards interpersonal conflict” That I do not have and it hurts my game and relationships with women.
3.) I am finding this to by eminently true and I think this is way underemphasized in the instruction of game/alpha behavior:
“A small adjustment here, a studied mimickry there, and that invisible boring beta male is suddenly finding that the veldt of vagina open to his predations has expanded in every direction”
That is incremental improvement. One small thing like inviting yourself up when you’re dropping a girl off can make ALL the difference – I suggest saying “Got any 90’s music ? I’m in the mood for some 90’s music. Let’s go up and listen to some”. Pick a disagreement with a girl when you find yourself beginning to swallow and supress a contrary opinion/thought – better yet, pick a disagreement/argument when you agree but just to be a pain in the ass.
Small things – Grab and master little bits and pieces at a time. I think that it’s sometimes discouraging for some to look at the top of Mount Everest (Top Alpha A+) and hear the stories, and then look where you are at base camp. Rather, look at the the place 100′ ahead and get there.
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“The dark side is … more seductive” -Yoda.
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Ive got two out of three, and machiavellianism is not one of them. Explains a lot, but it can be worked on.
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You know guys,YOUR particular score is really of no interest to the rest of us. Its kind of like when a radio show has a psychic;its just one clown after another getting his future told–boring to the rest of us! Forget your score and tell us something of your opinions or things you’ve done that might addto the discussion,i.e.,”yeah I must be narcisisist cuz I banged this newlywed chick…” Things of that nature.
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Narcissism: 64
Machiavellian: 90
Psychopathy: 73
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N: 99.5 – 4.0
M: 98.6 – 3.9
P: 98.7 – 4.0
I’m very disappointed by this test. I answered every question with the intent of getting 100%, but apparently I don’t understand percentiles. But then again, understanding stuff is for fags anyway.
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Heartiste,
Here’s a question after my opinion comments for Heartiste and everyone else. All three things being equal and if you need to work on one more than the other then work on Machiavellianism. You are not a natural so up to a point it will be harder to fake or actually become Narcissistic and Psychopathic. Too much incongruence may be detected with narcissism or psychopathy. Too much actual narcissism may drive people away if they know you won’t benefit them. Too much psychopathy may end you up maimed, mutilated, dead fleeing trouble or imprisoned. Psychopathy may be the darkest, but Machiavellianism is the one that must rule them all in order to control the other two for maximum effect. Machiavellianism also is the one I believe people can develop more easily and fully. Machiavellianism allows you to be faster, wiser, more clever which will increase your chances of winning and not suffering devastating defeats if your opponent has more of Narcissism and Psychopathy than you do, but you possess more Machiavellianism than him or her. Even though there might be exceptions, do you think Machiavellianism should be worked on more generally speaking?
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I think this makes sense because Machiavellianism is the master key that utilizes the others in a synchronous motion.
Pure narcissism is detected and ridiculed when the person has no real plan for it. I have seen narcissists simply expect things to happen since they thought they were awesome, when in reality they were middling at best. They just get stuck in their own little world and come off as pathetic and whiny. With Machiavellianism, the narcissist would know to temper certain flairs in order to achieve his master plan.
Psychopathy leads to self destruction without a guide such as Machiavellianism. Random acts of violence and rage don’t lead to chieftain status anymore but the prison yard instead. The fearlessness needs a plan to order to ascended to higher purpose.
Also, Machiavellianism is trait that is probably least attributed to nature instead of nurture. It relies on a man accepting the brutal unflinching truth of reality and acting on this knowledge. Once a person’s eyes are open, it’s very hard to simply ignore a reality that would damage that person’s own very being. So if events took place that induced nihilisim, Machiavellianism would probably follow.
Simply reading CH will increase the Machiavelli score, since it delivers power shots of reality straight to the cortex. Only the delusional will deny. The reality of the information forces the dark triad trait.
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“Simply reading CH will increase the Machiavelli score, since it delivers power shots of reality straight to the cortex. Only the delusional will deny. The reality of the information forces the dark triad trait.”
Lol what happens when you’ve read every post on CH, RM and all the other stuff. I guess it’s one thing to accept it, and also another to go out and actively implement. Knowledge is power though.
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Well, Mach is my weakest of the traits, so that would go without saying in my own case…
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I’d take their test, but fuck their frame (there, saved 5 minutes)
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Best answer. The quiz is ridiculously manipulable.
[CH: That’s true. And the people who would score highest on the quiz would be most able and likely to manipulate it. It’s just some throwaway fun, hinting at traits rather than sculpting them in marble. So… why so serious?]
I’m surprised some of these strivers (how alpha am I? cool, I can get a numerical grade!) could only make it score in the 50s and 60s.
I got in the low single digits for the first two categories and around 25% in psychopathy, which, by their definition means the simple ability to control one’s emotions.
[Your score: altar boy, with a secret.]
Matt
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Jesus Christ endorsed the Dark Triad. See Matthew 10:16.
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If you subtract the “sheep” and “dove” out of the equation. Which is my point. These traits can be applied to good or evil ends, and the infatuation with the “dark” is an obsession over incidentals in order to excuse moral laziness. It doesn’t take much to convince a slothful shlub that his habits are actually epic indicators of manliness.
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Correct.
A nigger by any other race is still a nigger.
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True dat.
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Stop fantasizing about me, vicar.
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http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-human-beast/201304/being-nice-doesnt-always-work-out
“If you want to be nice, try living in a nice neighborhood.”
Heh.
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Because if you don’t live in a nice neighborhood, here is what you can look forward to:
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/03/31/black-men-have-much-to-discuss-about-murderous-crime/
Too bad libtard SWPL white numbnuts are trying to eliminate all the good neighborhoods one by one.
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n-13
m-59
p-89
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Women love the dark triad, because I am the dark triad.
How’s that for a self-reinforcing loop?
RAPE!
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Did this test a week ago. 47% Machiavellian-ism, 67% narcissism and surprisingly 88% psychopathy.
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I was right in the fucking middle.
The sad thing is that I thought I was going to be a real bad ass score worthy of Machiavelli himself.
Damn the human race sure is evil.
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As Lily Tomlin said, “No matter how cynical I get, I can’t keep up.”
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“Imagine the power at your fingertips if you had the ice cold stones to approach thousands of women nonstop without suffering even the slightest ding to your emotional state from any rejections.”
That’s how the “Mad Monk” Grigory Rasputin handled it. He simply walked up to any woman he could find and just started kissing or groping her. He was slapped, kneed, and beaten up many times, but by the time he weaseled his way into the Tsar’s court, his count was reportedly in Magic Johnson territory. He rarely bathed, drank like a fish, and stank like a pig, but noblewomen lined up to fuck him and their hubbies bragged about it to each other (Imperial Russia was a failing society, like ours). He claimed to have boned the Tsarina and her daughters as well, which isn’t commonly believed, but I could see it.
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Rasputin = Russell Brand
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Go up to strange (sexy,natch) women and grope them? Grope game? Does it work? Sounds cool!
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Maldek:
N: 64.6
M: 78.1
P: 81.6
It seems I could like my wonderful self even more. Room for improvement there is. Nice test.
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As I like to point out, the alt-Right, also known as the Dark Enlightenment, is a synthesis of Pat Buchanan and Camille Paglia.
In “Sexual Personae,” Paglia advanced her assertion the Marquis de Sade is an important but overlooked writer in the Western canon.
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Dear Penthouse, I scored 100 on all, it was suggested to me I’m the reincarnation of Machiavelli. Do I have to learn Italian now?
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Oh, this again. It isn’t just women who are attracted to evil, Professor Scientists. We all are.
[CH: Only women want to spread for evil, though.]
This entire exercise is designed to put a laboratory gloss over the basic concupiscence we are all born into. It is the teenage metalhead’s flirtation with “Evil is Kewl.” Men are attracted to unwholesome sluts who do kinky shit too, because, newsflash: evil is superficially attractive, and the false promise never pays off.
The reminder of this unbreakable law of moral physics is called one’s conscience, which must be developed as a child develops, inculcated despite our inborn natural barbarism. This is a milestone in one’s journey to adulthood which most of you seem to have safely evaded.
Again, these pseudoscientific stretches of the imagination merely indicate the absence of good men who are also strong in the environment where you learned to be men. You come from broken homes and a broken culture, which means dads and other male figures were either weak and nice or strong and bad. I could imagine: I probably wouldn’t believe in them if I wasn’t raised by one, much less never met one; just as these peppy PUA puppies try to convince the world that all women are sluts. Like fish think the whole world is wet.
[Not all women are sluts, but all women are capable of being sluts for the right man.]
Maybe you’re just white trash? Djever think?
[Smart yuppie girls fall for game the hardest.]
Matt
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This is one of those posts that makes me think this entire friggin’ site is satire. Excellent, excellent, satire. Or CH is just a manic-depressive nihilist.
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Which post? Matt’s post or CH’s post?
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CH. And I mean that in the best way possible.
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Im so dark when I get out my car the oil light comes on.
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sometimes it helps to have a liar around in situations when you are not
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How many ways this issue is misinterpreted.
Redefinition of evil. True evil is banal. It is superficially glamorous and necessarily must end in horror, not “tingles.” The tingle goes away the moment the poseur is exposed, and what appeared to be dark charm is revealed for the impotent follow through it truly is.
If you hadn’t noticed, women rule. Their bizarre understanding of the sexes now define how we think about what’s right and wrong, what’s good and bad. One of their most important accomplishments was redefining evil as “the qualities most characteristic of men.” So, confidence becomes “narcissism,” command of one’s environment becomes “Machiavellianism,” and emotional continence becomes “psychopathy.” What you describe is not “dark”; it’s the fat homely feminist’s idea of “dark” because it is so opposite her bovine nature.
Mysteriousness. Mystery is not evil. It isn’t even necessarily “dark.” Light can conceal as well. The sexual power of what you describe derives largely from inscrutibility — What’s this guy all about? How come he doesn’t react like other men? I need to know more!
Power. The easiest and least sophisticated way to exert one’s power, such as it may be, is to commit evil. Therefore many will conflate power and glory (Potestas et Gloria) with bad acts. Their most intimate understanding of power comes through the evil committed against them, which is the slavish, victimized geneaology of morals conjured by abused little girls. See Nietzsche, who traced the provenance of the nobleman’s “good and bad” on its way to becoming the slave’s “good and evil.”
Absence of example. As the feminist understands evil, so does the beta male. Growing up with a weak-chinned daddy, who weeps over his impotence and tells you it’s better to be nice than powerful, leads an impressionable (anxious, exuberant, post-pubescent) young man to regard the good and the strong as opposites.
Clinical neutrality. No woman (person) is attracted to narcissism per se. Her vulva doesn’t weep for ugly men who do not know they are repulsive. Insofar as he is pretty and has reasons for narcissism, like a vacuous supermodel, you mistake a woman’s preferences for a man’s. Men overlook inner depravity in beautiful packages because we are convinced we can lick the candy coating without ever getting to the poison center of the tootsie pop. Women are not so taken by appearance.
No woman is attracted to Machiavellianism per se. Snivelling Jewish accountants aren’t cleaning up with the bitches. Rather, the aloof and almost innocent himbo who survives on his aura rather than his cleverness is more likely to catch honey.
No woman is attracted to psychopathy per se. The dead-eyed Doom-trained Dylan Klebold was not getting pussy. Which is why he shot up his school. A woman’s attraction to the psychopath is the apparent detachment he displays, his independence from external forces, which can be volitional or involuntary. The involuntary type is called psychopathy. The volitional type is called deliberate mastery, self-discipline, or … wait for it … amused mastery.
You observe the charming rogue but only see his roguishness rather than the decisive power of charm. You assume they must be fundamentally connected. But take away the charm and you are left with a dysfunctional loser who cannot operate in a social context. We flout social rules by being powerful enough to rise above the herd or so weak that we slip beneath the stampede.
Concupiscence. We are born with an innate attraction to evil. We are seduced by its glamor. Yes, women “spread for” it because that’s what women are chiefly good at doing. They are passive intake recepticles. Nonetheless, men do “bend over for” it insofar as they allow evil to take over their will. Or has no man here ever found himself entangled with a BPD chick much more deeply than he ever intended?
We do not choose to do evil so much as we invite evil to possess us. Man is the active sex, and so when he has given over his will, he still appears to make (manly) volitional actions. But he is in fact controlled by reflexes, by a force external to himself. This is the opposite of freedom. The lure of willfulness first imprisons the will and then redirects it toward destructive ends. Like the alcoholic who is “free” to have another drink.
Matt
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Matt, what aspects of this site do you agree with? Why do you read it?
You are correct in saying that It is established that dark triad traits are seductive and effective on both men and women. For a variety of reasons, women rarely use them to get men to like them. However, it may be the case than an intelligent psycopathic woman may be more effective than a normal girl at attracting men. I would assume that women with high quantities of dark triad traits don’t superficially act the same as men with those traits. Sociopathic women must quickly figure out that charm in a woman looks different than charm in a man.
In your own life, do you believe in these alpha-beta-omega categorization benchmarks? (my career makes my figures out speech real sexy, eh?) Where are you on that spectrum and why?
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I don’t bother with man-made spectra, especially the tendentious “benchmarks” of social pseudoscience. Is that your field? The benchmarks are descriptive of measurable tendencies but cannot characterize any single individual with precision.
My only measuring stick is the divine one, and for purposes of prudence, I consider myself “chief among sinners” (1 Tim 1:15). I aim to be childlike (Matt 18:3) but not childish (1 Cor 13:11). In other words, I proceed in deliberate naïveté not just because what I do not know outweighs what I do know by a factor approaching infinity, but because acknowledging one’s ignorance is the shortest path to wisdom. Socrates’s ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα (“All I know is I know nothing”) is the starting point of all philosophy. Humility is true power, which allows me to truly boast (1 Cor 1:31).
You know what I’m saying? Probably not, so let me answer a different way.
This site is a treasure chest of practical wisdom still in search of a sturdy intellectual foundation. CH uses faulty placeholders like the “god of biomechanics,” evo-psych, and question-begging pop-sci “research” for lack of a better god to pray to. His pontifications about nature are all very silly and superficial and easy to subtract out of the formula.
Pedestalizing the Dark Triad is one of the more popularly alluring ideologies brought on by his epistemological GIGO. It can really harm people — not harming the victim-targets so much as the chump-perpetrators who glorify fake evil themselves. These poor former beta males will seek revenge in their sexual encounters (because Pope Darwin said they must) and that will keep them from the connections they want to make in their heart of hearts.
Nonetheless, rousing men from their slumber is the necessary first step. But only the first step. No one slaps an omega in the face quite like CH, it is his purpose in life. But however proficient he is in this specialty, it is only an initiation. These skills used to be inculcated in boys in their teens. If men are going to take command of the coming generations, we have to start somewhere, and CH is the crash course nonpareil, despite being preoccupied with pussy almost to a fault (almost). It is a fault he is gradually addressing, however, to the chagrin of PUA’s everywhere who sip from this site’s philosophical headwaters.
I go where the truth is. “Every one who is of the truth hears my voice.” Even when they don’t know his proper name.
Matt
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Not sure about this test, but need think I need to not give a fuck a bit more
N 69.4%
M 47%
P 84.3%
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I was around 2 on all of them.
So when I want to be I can be a dark bastard…and when I want to be I can be an angelic good guy.
I like that.
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Question… off to a party where, because of the prodigious size of my social circle, there will be some other alpha males. With the arrival of spring the GF in shorter minis and heels is even more of a traffic stopper and will be a focus of attention (as any top-three girl should be). What’s the better way to frustrate the AMOGs, assuming you have time for just ONE of these before going to the party:
1) girlfriend on her knees to drain me and give me that George Clooney-esque smirk I’ll be sure to use on other girls at the party?
2) bend her over and show her how the west was won, leaving her glowing and uninterested in the other AMOGs’ advances?
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Cool story honey.
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If I was your Grandmother, I would say
“Oh that’s nice, dear.”
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I’m low on Narcissism and Machiavellianism, slightly higher than average on psychopathy.
The person I know who would score highest on this test is a woman; I just took the test imagining I was her, and scored 94 for narcissism, 93 for Machiavellianism, 95 for psychopathy; the 93 seems really low to me.
I’m not sure “psychopathy” is a good word for the third axis; psychopaths tend to be deeply dysfunctional socially and emotionally. I would call such people sociopaths rather than psychopaths if they can fit in to society and form long-term relationships when they choose to. Though maybe a sociopath is just a smart enough psychopath….
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“unwholesome sluts who do kinky shit too”
Couple of questions…
1 – Isn’t “unwholesome” and “slut” kind of redundant?
2 – If not, can you please give examples of a “wholesome slut” and “unwholesome nice girl”
3 – Is the “kinky shit” necessary for a unwholesome slut to be considered evil?
4 – If I marry a virgin who likes to do, or allows me to do, “kinky shit” within the bonds of matrimony because it pleases me, is that/are we evil?
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The adjectives were amplifiers, not stand-alone descriptors.
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The wholesome slut brings you a sammich after. DUH.
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doclove: agree about Machiavellianism.
Matt: CH is right about evil. A woman with these traits can be great at attracting men and keeping them on a string, but if they ever figure her out enough to spot the lies and manipulation, sexual desire goes away (except for hopeless betas who can’t imagine other options). A man might want to sleep with a woman who doesn’t love him; but not with one who said she loved him and turned out to be lying.
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very insightful
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Good point. I do think men are more easily repulsed and offended by false claims of love and romantic betrayal than women are.
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i can agree with this. back in the day there was a girl who really thrust me into full acceptance of womens nature/game. I met her after a rough breakup w my girl of 3 years. I thought we were perfect for each other (shes russian). We banged one time..i got beta…and after that she played me so hard. Some girls make it a sport. They give you just enough to blur the line between interested and not interested. After some months of it and alot of distance and self improvement on my end…the reality of her character really sunk in. She manipulates those who let her. valuable lesson.
the takeaway is that …yes. i truly started to despise her..and still do. like a parasite. But not in the butthurt way of being pissed..more like sick to my stomach when i think of her.
At least in my situation this is true. i think one gender of very high value can string along the other pretty well.
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Every 80s Penthouse test i took came out beta, basically…except for one…it said if given a chance youd be the next Hitler or Idi Amin.🙂
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The more I read here and the more I observe I am utterly convinced that the author of this site is the Devil. No mortal could possibly know this much behind the scenes information…
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A conscious is a liability in this game.
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Consciense I said, auto correct.
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I think you mean… Conscience😉
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So, as I bumble through this, some other patterns have started appearing in social interactions.
…earlier in day…
Me: [opens community fridge] Hey, are these anyone’s burgers?
Cute7: (shakes her head laughs) you are such an asshole…
Me: (legit confused) What?
Cute7: You’re going to eat someone else’s food.
Me: So it belongs to someone?
Cute7: I’m sure it does.
Me: Thanks for answering my question.
(I put them back and take out a fruit tray that someone else told me I could have the rest of)
Me: You want some of this fruit, X said I could have the rest.
Cute7: Oh, well in that case, sure.
(I make my plate, then I turn to her)
Me: You want a green one?
Cute7: Yes.
(I give her one, then I stand there…smile)
Me: You want another one…?
Cute7: (laughs) Just give me the thing…
(I don’t fight or anything, I just go to sit across the room and then she’s like…)
Cute7: He probably didn’t even say we could have any.
Me: Oh so you think I lied to you
Cute7: Yes. (turns, starts talking to another girl, who laughs at the exchange) He does rude things.
—> later we’re all hanging out, and I’m just being me, which…at this point is kind of like a bull in a china shop. Lots of mistakes, lots of false starts. So my other male friend, GoodlookingMcCoolGuy is there. There are two girls on either side of her that are Plain6 and Cold7….so —
Me: So, Plain6 – –
Cute7: Hey, that’s not her name.
Me: Plain6?
Cute7: It’s Plain6.0 (said almost sternly, but in a not-give-a-fuck way — it was a minor minor quibble)
Me: Oh…how rude of me.
Cute7: Yeah, you are rude! Earlier today he was going to eat someone else’s food, and he lied to me about some other food…blah blah blah tells story to group.
Plain6: Ya, I’m like a type A personality
Me: Ya me too, I get so stressed about class sometimes. [joking]
Cute7: Ya, you were probably real stressed those two times you actually went.
^
That’s the pattern. It’s like….am I misreading something when there’s less people around/it’s more chill? What’s the point of the tooling? I don’t really understand it. Like, she has no problem being nice or saying nice things to my friend, GoodlookingMcCoolGuy…plus, it’s not like she delivers these lines with a ton of fire or anything. Her bf was two seats down (they were having two separate conversations — barely talked, but I guess that could be alpha or whatever). She followed the only compliance test I tried to give, which was ‘hey, do a dance move right now.’ She said ‘no…’ then I just kept looking at her, and she did it. Then, she did it again when I asked. CaptainAMOG tried the same thing,,,/denied.
Anyway, the pattern is just an earlier more chill interaction that I read as ‘oh, hey I did something right…seemed like she liked something there…’ gets turned around on me later. It’s happened more than a few times.
Any thoughts appreciated
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Went to the club again last night. Only opened hot sets –7.5+. It was terrible. I’m terrible. I suck at it😀 and my only go to strategy when all the words rush from my head is to just say. exactly. how. i. feel. Lol. Ya…so you can just imagine that….11 times. Ugh.
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Hey dude. I’m AWOL with some shit right now. Saw this tho, so quickie advice:
Shit-testing chick wants to fuck you. Doesn’t matter that you work or go to school with her, doesn’t matter that her bf is there, doesn’t matter how much drama it would be, none of that is relevant. Read Rollo’s article on “Hypergamy doesn’t care…” The point is that there’s a spark you could turn into a flame if you wanted.
You probably SHOULDN’T. But just because you shouldn’t act on it doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t be aware that it’s THERE.
“But yareally, why is she being such a dickhead to me? ESP in public?”
What did you learn from way back in field report like 3 I think? Where you were in the food place and the girl asked your opinion on love and you didn’t cave? What happened? She invited the guys at your table into the convo. And you still didn’t cave. So THEN what happened? She invited the hot waitress into the convo to try to social pressure you into caving.
So why does this other girl give you so much shit when everyone’s around and tell other girls you’re an asshole that steals good etc? …AND YET, she complies to dancing for you.
Like, ignore the bullshit Oprah Dr Phil MSM brainwashing of what signals from girls are…think PURELY about what you’ve learned from PUA and the Manosphere. Cut out all emotions and look at 100% logic of the situ. Hell, ignore whether her BF is alpha or not. Focus on you and her and your vibe. Zoom in.
She is doing the exact same thing as the other girl, calling in more social pressure for backup.
Why?
Because you won’t cave to her. And if you don’t cave to all the social pressure she brings in, what happens? You know the answer to this. 🙂
People will tell you to take the whole picture into account. And to consider her bf and her social life and reputation and job/school security and social circle drama all these other consequences…and those ARE things to consider. Like you should be AWARE that “this opportunity is here, if I take it it will cause these consequences”. But you need to learn that these windows exist and are THERE for you to take.
Down the road your buddies’ GF’s will flirt with you. Hardcore. While holding your buddies’ hand. And you will think “wtf this is fucked” but your buddy won’t have a clue it’s even going on, right in front of him.
BUT…whether you take these opportunities or not is up to you in the moment. And it’s something you have to develop in time. Maybe you got shot down by 11 girls but is that better than causing chaos in a co-worker/classmate’s boyfriend’s life? Maybe if you play dumb they’ll have kids and live a happy life together forever. Maybe if you escslate things you’ll save her from a shitty unsatisfying life she’d eat pray love her way out of with some other cock down the road and destroy her children’s stable future. These are your decisions to make and you need to consciously make them and make them 100% based on YOU and YOUR morals ethics and boundaries.
A lot of guys in the manosphere think I’m a shitty asshole with no morals…but I DO have them. I have a personal code I never break. But that code is based on ME and MY thoughts, beliefs and experiences, it’s not something I let someone else determine FOR me because I have so little life experience that I have to look to religion, society, AMOG douches (hi, King A), etc to determine what my values are. My values for this area are based off my excessive amount of personal experience in this area. I don’t care at all whether someone else approves or doesn’t approve of where my lines are drawn or flexible.
Cause I have buddies on both ends of the spectrums. I know the nicest dudes in the world who would babysit a girl with a boyfriend and completely altruistically just be looking after her and make sure she got home safe n sound. Same time I know guys who get OFF on fucking married girls, the more fucked up it sounds the better to them.
At the end of the day you have to decide whether to pursue it or not…BUT, to be in the position to make that decision, you have to be aware that that fork in the road is THERE. In front of you. And that you can pick which way to go.
Like, this sounds like mental masturbation probably, like “oh every girl wants to fuck me” but it’s not delusional at all. It’s simply understanding the cues are there, whether you act or not. Like knowing you’re IN the Matrix even if you enjoy the steak in front of you.
This is what gives us the edge over normal guys. Normal guys can’t see these things. They aren’t aware of the subtleties. They get the ball and instead or running with it they question whether they deserve it and pass it off to someone else. I am FULLY aware of when a girl ISN’T into me. Like, it happens. But the instant things pass a certain line of X, I know “okay, shit just got real. If I want this I can pursue it…maybe I DON’T want it and won’t pursue it, but I’m aware that it’s THERE.”
A LOT of natural guys are amazing up to the point where they have to actually acknowledge that the girl is into them..so they flirt it up and you’re like “wow she loves you” but they’re like “no she’s just being friendly” and talk themselves out of it. It’s tragic. We’re better than that lol that’s why we “assume attraction”.
The Q to ask yourself is: why does she talk smack and be mean to you, but is nice and complimenting to GoodLooking McCoolGuy?
Like, break that down for us. What is the difference in how you two behave around her, and what is the different in the vibe between you guys and her, and if you wipe all out all emotion/logic, which of you is she responding *more emotionally* to? Good emotions, bad emotions, doesn’t matter, which of you does she feel more intense/opposing/captivating/frustrating/etc emotions toward? You or the Cap’n?
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Also for anyone wondering about the triad test my score was something like 60 50 60, middle of the road style. I figure if I had to take the test before I found pickup when I was a shy hermit I’d have like 10s all around, and if I had to take the test a couple years into discovering pickup I’d be 90s all around…but ultimately way down the road years later eventually you make it thru to the other side and chill a bit and grow and you become the middle of the road where you look after “number one” but also legitimately enjoy giving value to the people around you, which is how I would describe myself these days…I love helping other people whether its with game knowledge on the Internet or whether its spreading good/fun vibes in person in real life, but I also put myself first and don’t sabotage my own happiness for other people who wouldn’t put me first if the situation was reversed. Like I don’t look at my skills as “these are tools I can use to make my life better”, I look at them as “these are tools I can use to make everyone around me, including myself’s, life better.”
I think that’s, ultimately, the healthiest outlook, and I think it’s what causes you to get middle-range scores on the dark triad test. I would bet that most advanced PUAs get a similar score to me and most newbies/intermediates follow the 10/90 pattern.
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Thanks for the taking the time to write that out, and I hope that life’s not getting rough on you or anything atm. It’s just hard to internalize the whole ‘ya, no she’s into you escalate’ vibe without having those ‘clear-cut’ signals that we’re all told about and shown in movies…
The two girls that currently do shit like this though seem to be really good at attempting to hide these ’emotional’ responses. It’s not like they’re lingering around me all the time, etc.
I guess what we’re identifying are ‘sparks’ and learning how to flare up those sparks. Asking questions like these, which ya, I guess can boil down to ‘u think she likes me in this situ?’ just help for me to remember, like ‘yaaaaaa….proceed…do something.’
Thinking about it….at that event, there also was an uggo there who HATES my guts. Always trying to talk shit, etc. I realize that if I could act the way I do to her to hot girls I’d be so fucking money.
Ex:
Uggo: Hey, look, I see an ass [looking at me]
Me: (puts chin on hand, just no fucks to give, not even really looking at her) Hey….donkeys are people too.
[Uggo stews]
Uggo: Ugh, why are you even here?
Me: [again no fucks are given] Relax. My dad said it was fine.
‘What is the difference in how you two behave around her, and what is the different in the vibe between you guys and her, and if you wipe all out all emotion/logic, which of you is she responding *more emotionally* to?’
So I went back to think about it. Here’s the thing, I actually probably spent the most time talking to Cute7 and her friends. -But- what few interactions GLMC had with her seemed really positive. He’s real chill and nice and charming in his behavior. Like, it works for him because that’s who he is. He likes giving value to others and being a fun chill guy.
And I know GLMC and Cute7 made out or whatever over a year ago, before Cute7 got her bf. GLMC said that Cute7 was like ‘oh you’re too hot for me, blah blah blah, you’d just make me insecure.’ So I know she’s attracted to him.
Another big problem is that I don’t approach interactions correctly. I still approach them like a tryhard — like, I remember them in this fashion: ‘I got attention for X amount of time, OH SOMEONE ELSE GOT ATTENTION WHICH MEANS EVERYONE HATED ME, etc.’
The more time goes on, the more and more I uncover that I need to work on. Honestly, the only thing I’ve mostly internalized by now is that I do believe that looks don’t matter much. They just don’t. I’ve already seen enough to dispel that notion. But there’s just so much else….
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http://neuropolitics.org/
The one titled Sociosexuality.
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I did the test but fuck off, I ain’t telling my score.
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Psychopathy isn’t so bad. It just gets a bad name, a psychopath is erroneously thought to be crazy.
When psychologists speak of it, they mention the term “defection”, just how much a person is willing to use another then dump them. Clinical psychopaths are constant at it. No matter the social value of the person a clinical psychopath will use them and gain utility and/or defect. A subclinical psychopath can often be strategic in “social cooperation” and will play along with high social value people for future utility but will always use and defect on those with lower social value,
In other words, pump and dump.
Here is a nice little academic essay on the trait and the prediction of “defection”. It is a pretty good trait to have actually. Better to be a leaver than the left, a user than the used.
“The strategy of psychopathy: primary psychopathic traits
predict defection on low-value relationships”
The Royal Society of Biological Sciences
http://www.academia.edu/3139546/The_strategy_of_psychopathy_primary_psychopathic_traits_predict_defection_on_low-value_relationships
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Right. Their definition of psychopathy amounts to “displays social control” or “doesn’t wet his pants.” If you aren’t ruled by appetite, if you exhibit emotional continence, you are a psychopath according to their wild-guess pseudoscience.
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30 30 25. Because I do what Jesus taught.
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I came out very Machiavellian and Narcissistic, but not remotely psychopathic. Sounds about right, I’ve always been misanthropic and self-obsessed, but ultimately very emotionally sensitive and empathetic.
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OT: Heartiste, here’s a fun story with many Chateau elements:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2315228/Scalford-nursery-worker-Michelle-Mills-facing-life-guilty-Edward-Millers-murder.html
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Gotta love shitty British women (but I repeat myself) stories
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They gotta bring back capital punishment;hang this evil bitch cunt. All the elements of feminism are there:”I have no memory of’ the killing;”I was abused as a child”,”I didnt want tio kill him…” CUNT! You didnt want to kill him–then why the fuck did you. My god what shit!!
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You forgot the best part:
“She was Eddie’s first serious girlfriend whereas Mills admitted to the jury that she had over 70 previous sexual partners.”
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Well, what about the famous last words:
Mr Miller said: ‘He said “Look at the size of her. What could she do to hurt me? It was only a small knife anyway.’
And then the endless excuses. It was self defense, she didn’t mean to, she thought he was going to kill her, the voices told her to do it … Oh that poor woman.
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Another reason the dark triad works with women is that it’s necessary to have the dark triad to succeed in most places. Having the dark triad allows business folk the ability to make the necessary hard decisions to improve the bottom line.
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I scored higher than 94% of people in narcissism.
I’m the BEST!
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The explanation for Psychopathy sounded a little feminine, sounds like too much is given to impulse.
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I’ve studied psychopathy for years. It’s not a state of mind to want to emulate. Our World’s state exists overwhelmingly due to psychopathic minds.
Women are intoxicated by male power. This “dark triad” propounds the worst aspects of it. No woman is worth becoming that kind of man.
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Based on the self-reported Dark Triad scores, it’s good to see that even at an enlightened site like CH, there are many future employees here.
What do I mean?
If your scores are not at least averaging 70 across the board, you’ll be working for those with scores that do (and the chicks you bang will reflect that).
But hey, as a drunk Bishop once said “that world needs ditch-diggers, too.”
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best comment on this post so far!(‘Cept for feministx of course!)
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Can you cite a source to back up that assertion? Not saying I disagree but it would be an interesting read if such a study has been done.
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A WWII Veteran who built his house with his own hands has lived in the same house all his life. Since he is aging, he gave his daughter a power of attorney to help out, which is normal with an aging parent.
Well this piece of shit daughter took the power of attorney, transferred the deed to his house in her name and is now EVICTING her own FATHER!
I am including a link to the article.
http://guardianofvalor.com/decorated-wwii-veteran-faces-eviction-from-daughter-and-son-in-law-in-house-he-built/
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o.o
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King Lear, right?
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I got these figures..
Narcissism 93.8
Machiavellianism 78.1
Psychopathy 84.3
what does all this means?
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N-78
M-67
P-62
Jesus Christ, I don’t know if this is good or bad. I like to think of myself as a nice guy . . . unless you have something that I want . . .
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n-93
m-78
p-84
is it a problem?
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This.
Narcissism 3.4
91.6
Narcissism is an egotistical preoccupation with self. [more]
Machiavellianism 2.8
66.5
Machiavellianism is a tendancy to be manipulative and deceitful. [more]
Psychopathy 2.5
64.7
Psychopathy reflects shallow emotional responses. [more]
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Narcissism 3.6 95.2 percentile
Narcissism is an egotistical preoccupation with self.
Machiavellianism 3.8 96.5 percentile
Machiavellianism is a tendancy to be manipulative and deceitful.
Psychopathy 3.9 97.5 percentile
Psychopathy reflects shallow emotional responses.
Hmmm… Not sure what that says about me – don’t really care. Kinda annoyed that I’m in less than the 99th percentile since that is where I’m used to residing in almost everything I do.🙂
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Gotta love betas. They think they are so good when they buy a house and get a big raise at work, and believe that because of this, women will begin to throw themselves at them like no tomorrow.
But then after a while, they notice that women still ignore them, and that their dicks are still as dry as ever.
They also notice that many “losers” who don’t have what they have are much more successful that what they are when dealing with women.
They then either start hating the whole world, or continue living with NFI about the reality of their situation.
I try to make an effort to show them the way things are, but each and every time it is met with resistance…
Oh, they want to treat their women like “princesses”.
And you know what?
I’ve quit trying.
I no longer care.
F!@# em. If they don’t want to improve themselves, it just means more pussy for me!
That said, I’ve come to the realisation that this is the way nature intended it to be.
Society is not designed to handle too many enlightened people.
From now on, I will no longer question mother nature. I’m just going to go with the flow.
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abel tesfaye (The Weend) lyrics elicit a Dark triad lifestyle which explains his popularity among girls. Doing drugs(coke will make you more of a psychopath), singing about his perspective of the relationship with party type of girls thatt is ‘dark’ and his expression on getting girls, demostrating that he does all that just to fuck them. there is a prhase about him being numb from codeine that would be an artificial way of being shallow on a whole level
overall is a nice example of how a musician with some dark triad traits makes it into an art form
I suggest miller’s the mating mind on how art works as a mechanism for sexual selection
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The Dark Triad is effective as hell in business too.
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Yes.
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Narcissism: 55
Machiavellianism: 98 (wut)
Psychopathy: 97
Conclusion – That test is designed for soft minded westerners.
Most Asian guys are just as objective and calculating as I am, many are much more so. By western standards, anyone who doesn’t run their life based on morality or emotions is evil.
This is a nerdy observation, but bear with me.
In the years I’ve wasted playing MMORPGs, I’ve noticed the richest and most successful players are always one type of personality. The quiet, emotionless asshole. Always male. Disproportionately Asian. These are the people who don’t chat, don’t give a shit about lore or graphic environment, who focus entirely on statistics, grind whatever is most profitable, and game any advantage or bug that they can find. They blitz through zones, caring only for the Highest Number. They form tight elite cliques, rarely talking to outsiders, and competing fiercely with rival cliques. Relations with others are based entirely on give-and-take, not emotional attachment. They have no problem exploiting or cheating other players if they can get away with it. Over time, these people carve out a ridiculous disparity between their wealth and the “average” player.
On the other hand, the chatty “social” player is disproportionately female, unable to seek out the most advantageous things, prefers to do what they find amusing instead of profitable, and often quit out of frustration before reaching endgame.
Of course there are other explanations for such behaviors, but I have a feeling real life is not that different. What you call the Dark Triad are really just the ingredients for financial success, or success in general, really.
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I’ve taken this test before. I normally skew the answers slightly in order to try to get a “better” score and end up in the 70-80th percentile. What’s funny is this time I decided I would go for a more totally honest result, and I avoided skewing anything, with this result:
N: 97.1
M: 90.3
P: 93.1
It appears I am one extremely fucked up dude. The good news is that once I finally get over all the guilt I’ve always felt for who I really am, and just learn to be myself unapologetically, I should start pulling poon like mad, right? Somebody tell me it’s so!
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It is so, but in my experience (scores similar to yours), you really have to learn to modulate it first. Yes, get over the guilt and learn as much about yourself as you can. Embrace it and don’t apologize for it. Then learn when to let it flow free and when to scale it back, and don’t let the narcissism control you. When you scale it back at the right time, pussy melts into a puddle, as does anyone who knows you. Lastly, any narcissist worth their salt has grandiose plans. Stop worrying about pussy and actually implement them. If you’re mulling whether you’re as good as you think you are, you’ve lost it.
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Narcissism: 8.1
Machiavellianism: 3.4 (I thought this would be atleast a little higher)
Psychopathy: 20.5
;_;
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yea it works just like that
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machiavelli 2.2
narc 78.3
pscho 45.1
he he he
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psychopaths bring one big advantage to the mating arena that quickly propels them to the top — fearlessness.””””””””
I guess test doesn’t really cover life or death situations
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Hey YaReally,
I’m a lurker who has never really participated in the comments sections (despite reading nearly everything I could find, including this blog, for years). It’s thanks to your comments that I’ve finally to decided to start practicing.
2 things:
1. I’ve been working on daygame, but it takes me forever to approach the hottest girls I see, either in coffee shops or walking down the street (I live near a pretty big city that I commute to from the suburbs). Mostly because whenever I DO approach, I put on this “boy meets girl” schtick that Tyler talked about in one of his vids:
2. I’m very broke (like, I have student loans and I don’t make anywhere near enough money to pay them back, let alone have a place to live that’s closer to the city). I’m still looking for a better job than the one I have now (which pays pretty poorly to be honest).
Just so you know, I’m fully committed to doing whatever it takes to get this handled. Thanks again for all your comments here. No matter what anyone thinks, they’re highly appreciated.
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Hey man! Thanks for the props!
1) Daygame is tough to get social momentum going in, which is what makes approaching hotter girls in trickier situations easier and being “on your game” with them easier.
Like put a hottie in a nightclub where I’m bouncing from girl to girl socializing and kissing randoms and spinning girls and having fun and approaching that hottie is easy and I’ll be sharp as fuck when I do it and say anything on my mind, which all spirals into good things.
But put that same hottie walking down the street, after I’ve been working all day and haven’t talked to anyone and took a bus across the city and been wandering around “looking for sets to open” etc and without all that momentum it’s tougher to approach and even tougher to own the interaction and it’s easy to end up putting on a “shtick” because your real self doesn’t feel warmed up to jump in, ya know?
Tyler talks about some Daygame stuff here:
But if you’re too young to hit the bars or whatever to rack up massive experience faster, then you gotta make do with what you got and keep at the Daygame. Just don’t beat yourself up too bad for choking, the fact that you’re even out there attempting this is more than 90% of guys could do with a gun to their head lol
2) Doesn’t matter. Esp if you’re young, chicks don’t care. A lot of us had to travel to bigger cities/areas to get our training in so don’t feel like you’re alone on that. If we could push thru it, you can.
But from my own experience the two biggest problems with having to travel to game and having no money were:
a) I can leave the house pumped and psyched up, but that 40 min slow bus ride with a couple scary homeless people sitting beside me means that by the time I actually GET to downtown, that’s all worn off and I’m “out of it” again.
I fought this one by putting energetic club music on my phone and listening to it during the bus ride, bobbing my head to the beat (change your physiology, change your state) etc. and visualizing being out partying. So I’d get off the bus and still be feeling ready to rock. Maybe carry some tunes with you for the slow down-time between sets when you’re out and about.
b) living far and having no money or living with parents etc means having to learn to push for going to the girl’s place. Hell a lot of times I prefer that, I like the adventure and sometimes I’d rather a girl doesn’t know where I live lol
So really not having money just fucks your logistics up. The girls themselves don’t give a fuck (unless they can sense that you’re insecure about being poor, because “what you feel, she feels” so she’ll think it’s something you SHOULD feel insecure about because you’re leading her that way).
If you’re getting questions like “how much do you make?” or “what do you do for work?” (said with that tone of like, she’s screening you to see if you’re a doctor/lawyer), that means you’re not captivating her emotions enough to keep her hamster spinning so she’s reverting to her default programming.
Think of it like a girl’s hamster is on one track, toward qualifying you as a long term provider. If you distract her hamster with shiny objects (cold reads, teasing, qualifying, role playing, rapport, comfort, etc etc), it’ll wander off track chasing the shiny objects. But if you stop being emotionally interesting so the shiny objects are gone, the hamster will wander back to its track and resume from there.
Once you’ve attracted her enough, the hamster says “fuck the track, the track is for other guys, THIS one is different” and she gladly accepts your faults/shortcomings and will even rationalize that they’re what she likes about you (“I loooove your tummy baby, it makes me feel protected when I hug you”, “he’s poor but he’s an artist he’s so passionate about his art not like those soulless iBankers”)
This is why I can approach with ugly shoes and no flashy Rolex watch and wearing a t-shirt and admit not having a car etc. if I want..because her hamster is so busy reacting to the emotions I’m pushing we through that she literally can’t process those other things and so her hamster never gets to run down her “check what kind of shoes he wears” track with me. By the time she notices my faults, she’s attracted enough that I’m an exception to her and they’re not relevant.
This is also why you get the “custom tailored suit” guys who are convinced that girls care about the material of their suit or whether their belt matches their shoes or whether their haircut cost $80 or $20 or whether they have 18% body fat or 19% body fat or whether they have 2″ lifts in their shoes, etc.
“Coincidentally” these tend to be the guys who try to act like a smooth suave chill James Bond at the bar (ie – they’re boring).
For those guys that stuff DOES matter because they’re not interesting enough to the girl and don’t cause enough of an emotional reaction to her to distract her hamster so she runs down the screening track and yes, they absolutely need those things on that track, to get the girl.
So don’t stress it. Just understand that it means you’ll have to be more creative/strategic with logistics when you pull girls.
Good luck, massive props for going out and taking control of this part of your life! It’s slow-going but you’re doing something 90% of guys could never dream of doing.🙂
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I’m betting these high scores y’all are reporting are common in childless, single, young men. Care for a child or two and I bet scores normalize. N-31.9, M-71.5, P-64.7
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Children of narcissists tend to become inverted narcissists, feeding the narcissism, rather than altering it, and they aren’t really fulfilled with anyone but a narcissist when they grow up.
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Fodder for another day: http://lifestyle.ca.msn.com/love-sex-relationships/i-went-undercover-on-ashley-madison
Feminist propaganda piece. Out of some sense of PC, they followed up with this: http://lifestyle.ca.msn.com/love-sex-relationships/women-cheat-too-the-other-side-of-ashley-madison
Judging by the writing style on the follow up piece, I think they got some kid in the mail room to write it.
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N: 19.1
M: 34.1
P: 30.6
But then, I’ve never considered myself other than a beta schlub. So that’s SCIENCE! confirming it.
Speaking of dark triad, I thought up a very focused test that would be fun to try, but I can’t be bothered. Goes like this. There are a lot of wimmin on OKCupid who put in their profiles “don’t message me if you have a picture without a shirt on” or something to that effect. I’d like to create a fake profile of a super male hunk, a bad boy 10, who has nothing but pictures without his shirt on, and then send short jerky messages to all these women who say “don’t message me.” Would love to see the response rate the fake profile gets. I’m betting it would be close to 100%.
I know there have been various fake OKCupid profile tests run, but I’ve never seen one focused specifically on that narrow aspect. Correct me if I missed it. Now one of you people with more time to kill because you’re not working like a beta schmuck day and night to finance your kids, go run that test.
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M: 55
N: 57
P: 72
WTF?
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Narcissist: 2.2 – 42.4%
Machiavellian: 3.9 – 98.6%
Psychopath: 3.7 – 94.8%
I’m a nice guy, really I am. 😉
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Women lock there car doors when I walk by. This used to damage my self esteem; but thanks to CH and this blog, I now know they are really responding to my dark triad, and that Im an alpha male, and Im irresistible…
thanks,
I love you guys!
(no homo)
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Now they just lock their pussy
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I definitely have a thread of each of these running through the tapastry of me. However, it doesn’t matter if you are short, ugly, have sub-average intelligence, and are poor/miserly. What CH and others consistantly fail to mention is that you can easily have these “dark triad” characteristics and still be an omega. Why is it so difficult for gamers to admit this? Yeah, a 2 can game a 2. So what. We don’t want a 2. We’d rather be alone.
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1) They like to sell the lie like every other charlatan
2) even some truth are too ugly for them
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Diogenes: your narcissism and psychopathy scores likely say that you have a realistic self-image, instead of being the sort of vain, all-hat-no-cattle asshole who’d follow Aileen Wuornos into a dark alley for a blowjob.
As for Machiavellianism: I wonder if there’s a significant difference in scores between people who’ve actually read his works and those who rely on pop-culture distortions of what he wrote.
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N: 1.7 (19.7)
M: 1.9 (29.4)
P: 1.1 (18.1)
But if I took this test in my teens, the scores would be a hell of a lot higher. Do you know that you can actually LOSE the ability to lie?
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I never had it
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As tweeted by Heartiste – http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2013/04/27/jobs-of-the-future-princesses-for-hire/
“The 21st century will have more party princesses and fewer manufacturing jobs; it’s a good thing. Get used to it and learn to make it work for you.”
I am fighting down the urge to type the following in all caps.
Yes, this Star Trek utopia is working so well right now that we only have to borrow a couple of billion dollars a day from China. You know, the country that manufactures things, while we have wedding planners, sign spinners, and professional princesses, which our great leaders are constantly trying to make more expensive to hire.
I guess this time it’s different.
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His wife:
http://whatever.scalzi.com/2007/05/19/the-missus-3/
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No body shot = fat.
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Here is my second attempt:
Narcissism: 10.6 percentile
Machiavellianism: 2.2 percentile
Psychopathy: 15.2 percentile
Kinda meh
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Don’t miss the comments.
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The test is too transparent. The people on here who don’t have those triad characteristics but want them will just answer the questions to get the result that they want.It also doesn’t take into consideration looks and wealth. If some homeless old bum scored high on this test he’d probably be viewed as a nasty old anti-social bastard and end up behind bars or in the loony bin. While a good looking wealthy man who scored high would be considered strong and perhaps a bit eccentric, at most. So the so called “triad” is always within a certain context. I can devise a better test where it would be virtually impossible to manipulate the results. These multiple choice tests for personality traits are worthless when the people taking them are trying to get a certain result for themselves. I’ll test you based on what you would do in a certain scenario and you won’t be able to understand the point of it until after you answer.
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Tip for married men:
Bring up what she should do with her life and the kids if something would happen to you.
Bring it up casually, but seriously, and then move on to other topics.
It’s responsible to do it, and it’s also great dread game.
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no brainer bro she needs to commit suicide
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*cringe* The life of a woman who is dependent upon her husband would fall apart if he were to be taken from her or left. So she strives to make sure he wants to stay with her, because she needs to ensure her upkeep. In a way, that really makes wives sounds like prostitutes.
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Just when I think I’ve seen the final herald which tells of the end of America, something worse supplants it. blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2013/04/27”””””””””’
ya think so I think there is some truth in that article
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What marriage material sounds like:
The opposite:
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http://www.vagabondish.com/female-foreign-japan/
lzolzozlozlozlzl
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Heartiste (or its main writer) writes well. He has a distinct voice and writing personality, and he can be playful while still making a clear point and aconvincing argument. Props.
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“The adjectives were amplifiers, not stand-alone descriptors.”
MMMmmm, see, the problem is I don’t think the word unwholesome works as an amplifier for slut. It’s a redundancy, as I wrote. Slut has unwholesome already neatly packaged into it.
Had you written “kinky” slut, or “depraved slut” or even “Uber-slut” , I could buy that.
And you dodged my last two questions, just so you don’t think I noticed.
My point being, since you seem afraid to engage it and I don’t want you to think I am just busting your balls, the super self-righteous tool persona you got there is off-putting and counter-productive to what you are trying to say almost to the point of parody. I am not exactly unsympathetic to your general line of thought, but…
Both comparing anything “kinky” in sexuality as evil, and comparing men’s desire for women with a little bit of a freak flag to a woman’s desire to become a concubine to, and breeder for, sociopaths smacks of lack of logic and considered thought. It’s emotionalism, which I thought we were leaving to the gals.
I know you will have some rationale equating the two, but I don’t see how wanting a woman who likes being handcuffed, or getting spanked is equivalent to rewarding with sexual favors AND genetic reproduction a man who commits actual acts of violence on innocent people.
One results in the physical pleasure for two people in the privacy of their own home, the other results in demon spawn being unleashed on the general public which has to both support and fear their deprivations.
Sorry, not seeing the moral equivalence there.
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is it dark triadish that I finally got my chick to blow cum out her nose while sucking my dick
yea ever since reading it here at the blog the perseverance and will to make it happen paid off
everything just worked in perfect harmony and just came together at the last second like it was meant to be
the push down her puking me cumming at the exact time her exploding cough out through the nose and mouth perfection
he he he
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The twin ropes of ejaculate, saliva, vomit, and mucus connecting her mouth and nose to your junk will make her a great Facebook cover picture.
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didn’t think to take a pic just enjoyed the moment hahaahahahahaha
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Machiavellianism 101%
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51’9 – Narcisism
34’1 – Machiavelism
28’6 – Psychopaty
Still not cad enough, and too much a nice guy.😦
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Not a ‘Trekkie’ but, by coincidence, just saw the episode referred to in this link:
http://www.startrek.com/database_article/enemy-within-the
From the site’s synopsis:
“As time passes, the “good” Kirk is weakening, losing his ability to make decisions, while his “evil” half is dying. Neither Kirk can survive without his other half.”
Many lines in the script that reference Kirk’s abilities to be decisive and successful because of his ‘dark side.’
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From what ‘yaser’ posted…
“What marriage material sounds like:”
(Re the video)
When the woman is lying on the beach it is so obvious she is ‘presenting’ in a position to take it from behind.
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Saw the old Star Trek episode ‘The Enemy Within.’
Goes with this thread.
Synopsis:
Kirk ‘splits’ in two.
He recognizes that he is nothing without his evil half.
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A friend of mine made his mother joint owner of his investment account. She stole all his money and gave it to his two sisters. Half a million gone.
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I’m curious, have an advice question. I was trying to get this girl away from her boyfriend (college setting) and accidentally went a little too far, ticked her off and she stopped replying to my texts/ignored me in class, and I ignored her too. Then she abruptly texted me last night, after two weeks. I pretended I didn’t recognize the number and initially replied “Is this Ana?🙂 “(Her name is not Ana) then acted cordial. Her excuse for texting me was she signed up for a class with a professor I said was great… so, what do I do? Go back to being warm and flirting/ask her why she suddenly texted me again/ignore her pretty much?
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That depends on your goals. She texted you back with her typical female bullshit “I was busy and in fourteen days couldn’t find the time to take 30 seconds to text you” which equates to her wanting some more attention. The question is, what kind of attention have you been giving her that she wants more of and if it isn’t the kind of attention I would think you want to be giving her, what are you going to do to move the interraction from exchanging texts to exchanging bodily fluids?
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Hint: if you bring up the fact that she ignored you it’s game over. Had you been busy nailing other girls while she was ignoring you then you wouldn’t have noticed she was gone. If you aren’t nailing three other girls then start acting like you are. This chick can join your haram or leave but the moment she smells that you give a shit, she surely won’t.
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Lol, I kinda already messed up that, though I asked her in a sort of mocking, teasing way. (Personally, I always try to hold people accountable when they pull shit… make them eat it, haha. Most people seem to back down…) So if I continue to give her attention–it needs to be of the “indifferent, slightly bored, and does not hold a high opinion of you” variety.
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Accountability is a male trait. You can’t punish her by calling her out. You get her where it hurts. Ignore her if she is bad and you’ve done that already and just like it is supposed to work, it did because , like a scolded whimpering dog with puppy dog eyes, she has come back to you with her tail tucked. Reward her. Pick up where you left off.
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I think that baffles a lot of us less knowledgable guys, how accountability works great for fellow men, but not girls. Like, in this same class, I had an ex-teammate from mock trial who was giving me as much shit as he could. I emailed him and flat out asked why he was being such a douchebag. Amazingly, next class, he wouldn’t look at me, and didn’t give me one insult. I loved it.
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And that was just a stupid email, sent hours after class when I actually paused to stop and realize how severe his attitude had been. I guess it’s a good reminder for me of how differently men and women deal with issues.
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Women don’t feel accountability because there is no biological need carved into their brain during the eons of our past through natural selection. What women are good at is justifying, no matter how stupid, any decision via rationalization. The emotional brain makes an unconscious decision based off of limbic brain mechanics and the rational forebrain makes up an excuse as to why it is rational or justified to do what it wants. Women seem to lack the crippling dampeners of the male forebrain because women never needed to evolve them as they were not hunting and fighting. Throw out all those books claiming the paleolithic was matriarchal… it was a violent mans world of brutal domination and women adapted to enjoy it. Rape fantasies anyone?
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Shaming works on females but only if it’s from other females or possibly even men given that a group backs him. Calling a girl out one on one sends her brain into rationalization mode where she can and will justify anything she feels as legitimate and she WILL feel attacked if you call her out. Ignoring her takes away what drives her, her attention which is where she derives her self worth from. Making a guy feel unmasculine is the tactic to use against a male. I’m not sure what you said in that email but you must have rattled his masculinity in one way or another and made his subconscious turn beta bitch and choose flight over fight.
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Andrew. I get why you react the way you do to certain things but you certainly can tighten it up and do better. For example:
1) “(Personally, I always try to hold people accountable when they pull shit…”
Just stop doing that. It makes the situation awkward and you come across as if you’re butt-hurt, over-caring and reactive. There is a smoother, more charismatic way to do this or you can simply
Pull away attention. Act tepid instead of lukewarm or legit shift your attention to other people and make your target wonder what the deal is. There is no need to verbalizes when someone blows you off.
I’m not saying dont stand up for yourself but when it comes down to it, if your value is high enough then people will return your calls, promptly return your texts and actively seek you out. Otherwise, your best move is to be chill about it, maybe call someone out in a funny, aloof way but when you are reactive and placing negative feelings on someone for what they did; you bet they’re going to associate that negative vibe with you and avoid you even more and possibly put a lower value on you as a result.
You’re meeting the bar with how you act but I think you’d be better off being magnanimous and doing 115%. Oh, your “buddy” in class didnt get back to you Saturday night because he preferred to go to the sorority party and not to the bars with you? Doesn’t matter you had a good time regardless and people know you to be so popular and social that one monkey doesn’t stop the show.
In other words, adopt the mentality of “it’s all good” and raise your value by believing it and acting that way since you’re a cool, social guy that has other shit going on.
2) ” I emailed him and flat out asked why he was being such a douchebag.”
See, when you do stuff like that it makes you seem reactive. Again, there was perhaps a better, charismatic way to handle him calling you out. Verbally undress him but do it in a way that shows it doesn’t bother you and you are being playful OR verbally tool the motherfucker but in a way that shows you have more value then him. It’s the same thing when a guy tried to amog you in the field. Don’t be that guy that goes home angry or starts a fight over it; you lose based on the fact that you are the one reacting more. Verbally own the guy but in a way that makes it seem like you have more value.
Example from me:
Me: (hitting on a mixed set. It’s two hb7 with a chode and I’m standing there with a glass of water in my hand.)
Amog: “bro I’m going to have call you out for having a water in your hand. Bro, I’m calling you out for being a bitch.
Me: (not flustered) hey it’s all good. Know what’s even a bigger bitch move? It’s actually having an empty beer in your hand. (Smirks, looks at beer)
*the girls look at each other with raised eyebrows like damn,’this immoralgables dude is quick with the wit. The guy looks down sheepishly because he knows it was good. I go back to gaming the girls*
Two minutes later –
Amog: “bro, I’m out celebrating tonight with these girls because I just one a million dollars!”
Me: “really bro? If I was you and just won a million, I’d be out with at least 10 girls!”
*girls look at each other again and bust out laughing and give the girl code for “damnnnnnnn, amog just got tooled*
No I didn’t bang those two girls Andrew and the set fizzled out eventually but notice how I played it. Ok, it might be reactive but it’s in a playful, socially calibrated way where I’m unaffected and still doing my thing. Be the same way.
Your lesson:
1) draw your attention away if a girl does the same (whether she flakes, doesn’t respond to a text, etc). Let her see you unaffected but you’re social and with other people
2) stop writing butt-hurt emails and learn how to handle the situation as its going down. If you didnt do it then and there, don’t pl
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I appreciate it, and will definitely work on following that advice. Coming to this site for advice is like asking some Army Rangers for handgun lessons–one will not find better anywhere else, haha.
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Met a foreigner a few months ago, banged a few times then went cold turkey.
Restart text: are u a terrorist?
I don’t need to tell you if it worked, just re-read the article.
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Narc: 74.7
Mach: 51
Psyc: 91.2
Probably about right. Would like to get that Mach up though
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The machilivalism and the psychopathy are almost related, one can blunt their emotions to reach their desired end.
“You cannot properly seduce women if you harbor illusions about their nature.”
Distilled truth.
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Test:
Narcissism: 3.1 (81.3 percentile)
Machiavellian: 3.5 (90.3 percentile)
Psychopathy:3.4 (89.3 percentile)
And I did my best to answer honestly, including what my friends would say about me in certain questions… haha.
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Test results:
Narc: 3.1–81.3 Percentile
Mach: 3.5–90.3 Percentile
Pyscho: 3.5–89.3 Percentile
And I thought with how I was answering, I’d get a lot lower scores… reading the Prince, it’s interesting to see how he’s so right on a lot of things. Even Moses was quite Machiavellian–when factions rose up grumbling in the Old Testament, Moses did what Machiavelli would do and just killed them off.
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Tonight on Bill O’Reilly’s show there was a segment on Dzhokhar, the surviving Boston Marathon Bomber and evidence that there are thousands of females that are apparently infatuated with him.
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