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Comment Of The Week

April 28, 2013 by CH

Commenter James notices a pattern, and it looks suspiciously like a hamster’s roan coat:

every sicilian or italian I’ve known has claimed their family has mob connections. just like every black guy is a producer and its every stripper’s first day. its all bullshit.

What’s the NUMBER ONE lie you will hear from single, upper middle class girls?

“I don’t normally do this.”

***

Da runner-up Comment of the Week winner is…. wait for it… loolzzllolzlzol… GBFM!

lzozozzozol

yes in my psychology class in college the essay question was, “What is the dark triad?”

so i thougought
and thought
and thought
and hinked baout it
and thought some more
and thought
and thinked
and thinked and theought
and thought and thought
and then
it hit me

The Dark Triad is
da GBFMs
big black lotsasoaz cockaksks
and his two ballz! (count dem 1 2!!!)

and I proved it too:

2 balls + 1 cockas = 3 = triad
QED

lzozozozozozolozozozo

for some reason da ididiton asshole teahcerz made a mistake
and gave me
an
F

and as a ruestlt result i have been considered unemployable
uneeplomeyyablelzl
unepelelmployablelzllz

which sucks
beause
i would lve love kov e love to be
a barista
in starbuckz

where i could take a shot of epsresso
for every shot i served
and go
zlzlzozoozzoozozzz
all
day long
z;zlzlozlozozozlzzzozz

Punctuation and spelling left untouched. You don’t mess with perfection.

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  1. on April 28, 2013 at 10:33 am Inside UoM

    Strong comments.

    Another one you hear is from single mothers

    “My child was the best thing that happened to me”

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    • on April 29, 2013 at 10:07 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      lzozozoozozo

      LIBERATE YOURSELF FROM THE BUTTHEXT MATRIXXI!!!

      zlzozozozzooixoozomgzozlzozo

      HERE IS THE PSOTER POSTER PICTURE DAT IS WORK A THOUSAND WORDSLZOZOZOZZO:

      http://greatbooksformen.wordpress.com/2010/05/28/the-first-panacea-for-a-mismanaged-nation-is-inflation-of-the-currency-the-second-is-war-both-bring-a-temporary-prosperity-both-bring-a-permanent-ruin-but-both-are-the-refuge-of-political-and-eco/

      The first panacea for a mismanaged nation is inflation of the currency; the second is war. Both bring a temporary prosperity; both bring a permanent ruin. But both are the refuge of political and economic opportunists. lozllzozlzlzllz!! –Ernest Hemingway

      lzozozozozozozo

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 10:30 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        “hey nice comment GBFMlzozozozzo!
        thanks GBFM zlzoozozo!
        you’re welcome GBFM lzozzllzozoz!”
        –what it sounds like in GBFM’S HEAD ALL DAY

        GBFM ECONOMICZ MAXIM # 1: A woman’s courtship value is equal or less than the lowest price she ever gave her pussy away for. lzolzoz

        GBFM ECOnOMICZ MAXIM # 1:

        A woman’s courtship value is equal or less than the lowest price she ever gave her pussy away for. lzozozoz

        After a woman has had a one-night stand
        or given her pussy for free
        her courtship value
        is 0.
        or less than 0.

        As why would you want to be the guy
        who pays for what others got when it was younger hotter tighter
        forty pounds lighter
        for freeee?

        lzozlzozlzzo

        After a woman passes 25, whence she has generally been buttcocked numerous times and desouled, her courtship value is negative. It is the woman, who is now wired fiat bernanke cash and allowed to excel in fiat bernanke programs that drug up and dumb down boyz while deocntsructing da GREAT BOOKS 4 MENZ and creating far more debt than wealth while bankruping the West morally amnd moneetarily, who must pay the man so as to court him.

        For a 25 year old multi-buttocked, desouled, bernankifed woman represents a huge risk to a man’s livelihood, his time, his conscience, his soul, his future earnings, and his general well-being. And the man must be compensated justly so as to have to court a woman over 25 who has been buttcocked and deousled and converted by the cenrta; bankerz into a vehicle of welath transfer lzozlz so dey could convert their masisve fiat debt into physical property by leveraging a woman’s sexuality for prviate profit gains while placing all teh risksz on good menz zlozzllz.

        lzolzolzozozozozoz

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 11:05 am corvinus

        Happy Monday. lozlzollzzozlzozozozozlzoz

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 11:14 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        zlzoozlzlzolzo

        when the noble heartiste stated
        “come my brothers
        take the red pill
        and come follow me”
        King A Matthew thought he said
        “come my brothers
        take the red dilldo
        and come follow me”
        and ever since
        King A has been running around
        thrusting his red dilldo at good folksz
        and threatening to nore them to death
        with stale, sepulchre, boner breath
        lzzlzozooozozzozzolz

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    • on April 29, 2013 at 11:04 am Joe Blow

      Another single/divorced mom comment: “I’d never put up with a man treating me bad like that.”

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    • on April 29, 2013 at 11:49 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      hey heartistes!!!

      here’s da unrated director’s cut of the post!!!

      lzozozzozol

      yes in my psychology class in college the essay question was, “What is the dark triad?”

      so i thougought
      and thought
      and thought
      and hinked baout it
      and thought some more
      and thought
      and thinked
      and thought some moreez
      as time wound down
      and thinked and theought
      and thought and thought
      and then
      it hit me
      like my lostas cockasz
      slappin’ your bernakkaifed girlfriendsz face lzozozozooz

      The Dark Triad is
      da GBFMs
      big black lotsasoaz cockaksks
      and his two ballz! (count dem 1 2!!!)

      and I proved it too:

      2 balls + 1 cockas = 3 = triad
      QED

      lzozozozozozolozozozo

      for some reason da ididiton asshole teahcerz made a mistake
      and gave me
      an
      F

      and as a ruestlt result i have been considered unemployable
      uneeplomeyyablelzl
      unepelelmployablelzllz

      which sucks
      beause
      i would lve love kov e love to be
      a barista
      in starbuckz

      where i could take a shot of epsresso
      for every shot i served
      and go
      zlzlzozoozzoozozzz
      all
      day long
      z;zlzlozlozozozlzzzozz
      as i worked worked worked
      to pay off my college bernake loanz
      2 ben benranke
      and his firendz at the fed
      who created debt
      and then offer us
      bernakakfied degrees
      and beenrkakified girlfriendz
      and a bernankififed culture and countryry cuntry
      as they profit
      off the debasement and debauchery
      of the culture
      and currency
      andall of
      entirtelretty entirety
      warfare welfare cappuccino mastserz
      beernakakififd your futrue wives
      with scretely taped ass balseterz blastezr zlzozlzlzoz
      zzlozozlozzlozzolzz

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  2. on April 28, 2013 at 10:47 am Tilikum

    “i normally don’t do this” while pulling their shirt over their head he he he

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 9:01 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      thanakzz so much for making me a runner up hearrtsyeietsts!!!!!! thank you than kt you tahnk you!!!

      we make a good team
      in a bromance sort of way
      with you providing the hahahacomic relief funny light-hearted funny stuff
      and me complemeninting it with my profound, deep, serious gravitas zlzlzozo
      zlozozozzoz
      zlzoozozzo
      omgz zlozozoozz

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 8:01 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        have you ever noticed why
        “texhtingz”
        and
        “butthextextxxixng”
        are almost the same thing?

        it s because etxtxtsz texts butthext the ameircan lanuguage in the same ay twitter does titter, clitter, twatter does zlzlzlozozzzoozozzo

        http://www.weeklystandard.com/author/matt-labash

        Matt Labash Hogwash writes “At the risk of being abrasive, I am about to say something unthinkable, heretical. I am about to say six words you have likely never heard from a working member of the media, and may never hear again: Do not follow me on Twitter.

        You can try, if so inclined. But unlike Kim Kardashian, Lady Gaga, the pope, the Dalai Lama, and the Church of England (which invited Twitter users to help select the next archbishop of Canterbury), you won’t find me there. I’m not on it, and hope never to be. I say hope, because the clip at which the Twidiocracy has infiltrated itself into every crevice of society might leave me no choice”

        lzoozzolozzozo he said “twitterz has infiltrated itself into every crevice of society” lzozozoz meaning dat twitter is now butetehxting us all zlozzoozozozzo in your creviecesez crackholeslsl zlzozozo bungholeeoozozoz

        is it no wonder teh weekly standadtrtrh labeled tucker max rhymes with goldman sax a six foot tall succethufl filmmaker, even though he faked his heiaght and lied about it and his film lost millionz of dolalrzrz, all because he buttehxted s and tapes it in secrete? lzolzozozoz buteehxtingth! tucker max rheyms with godlmans sax tapes ihis butthext in secrtee which the neocncoth womenz love as ben beebbnrkenakes fed meetings are held in sectre secret too where they butthext the dolalrz lzozozozozo

        is da GBFM the only living poete prophet poet hilopspspher who sees it as it ists s? lzozozozzolzo

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 8:40 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        I propose that a renaissance in the Great Books and Classics is needed so as to re-instill a more traditional Code of Honor which will enrich the lives of men, women, and children, and liberate us all from the debt-financed debauchery, deconstruction, and debasement.

        All men should begin immediately by reading the following books which the central bankers and their fellow churchians hate, fear, and detest:

        0. THE BIBLE
        1. Homer’s Iliad
        2. Homer’s Odyssey
        3. Exodus & Ecclesiastes & The Psalms
        4. Virgil’s Aeneid
        5. Socrates’ Apology
        6. The Book of Matthew & Jefferson’s Bible
        7. Plato’s Repulic
        8. Seneca’s Letters from a Stoic
        9. Aristotle’s Poetics
        10. Dante’s Inferno
        11. The Declaration of Independence
        12. The Constitution
        13. John Milton’s Paradise Lost
        14. Shakespeare’s Hamlet
        15. Newton’s Principia
        16. Adam Smith’s Wealth of Nations and Theory of Moral Sentiments
        17. Henry David Thoreau’s Walden
        18. Mark Twain’s Huckleberry Finn (& all of his work)
        19. Shakespeare’s Hamlet
        20. Ludwig von Mises’ A Theory of Money and Credit
        21. F.A. Hayek’s The Road to Serfdom
        22. Herman Melville’s Moby Dick
        23. Einstein’s The Meaning of Relativity
        24. Joseph Campbell’s The Hero With a Thousand Faces and The Power of Myth
        25. Ron Paul’s Revolution & End the Fed
        26. THE BIBLE

        And as men are reading the Great Books for Men, they must start enacting their principles in the living world, so as to exalt our legal system and universities, for it is not enough to thnk and read, but virtue is ultimately defined by *action*.

        lzozozolzloozozozo

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 11:08 am Man Reader

        right but serious question GBFM: what good will it do when perhaps 0.08% of us are educated but those in power are not?

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      • on April 30, 2013 at 8:11 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        hmmmm

        i dunno, what good did it do
        jesus
        to speak the truth that sets us free
        and have
        the mob
        the king pontius pilae
        and the scribes and pharieess acadmeic elite intteeletcualz
        and peter
        all turn
        on him?

        such is the nature of the hero’s journey man reader, that ye do it not for fame and fortune, but for Truth and Beauty

        zlzoozozozozozz

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      • on April 30, 2013 at 8:13 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        come hell or high water
        zlzozozozooz

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 8:44 pm Commodus

        29. Julius Caesar’s The Conquest of Gaul

        28. Edward Gibbon’s History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire (Unabridged)

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  3. on April 28, 2013 at 11:07 am Dr. Murray F. Rottencrotch

    Hey, what did I hear from the girl, the last number I pulled? “I don’t normally do this, but …”

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 11:28 am Nicole

      What would you do if a woman told you the truth?

      Paraphrasing myself, “Because I’m ‘none of the above’ religious/ethnic categories, and not conventionally pretty, I have trouble finding anyone brave enough and attracted to me at the same time. I could have a fake relationship with an Israeli guy looking for something exotic, but after a couple of times of being told I’m not worth having a serious relationship because I’m not Jewish, I consider this something on the level of swimming nude in raw sewage. So when I get really really desperate, like it’s been a year since I’ve had sex or something, I go out to a pub where I’m likely to find guys from anywhere but here, and pull. So there’s no need for lying, or really even much foreplay. I don’t even want to kiss you. Just get your cock out.”

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  4. on April 28, 2013 at 11:12 am greatest beta

    Escalated a friend’s friend last night. Saw she was attracted to me right away. Began with teasing and moderate negs, then I hit too hard with the neg (im mean to women by nature and have to consciously pull back). Then we changed venues and I seperated her from the group. Began the kino hard and began to make her laugh then told her funny cutsy warm stories. The kino is flying she mentions some guy she’s seeing (anti slut shield) I ignore and say “everyones seeing someone I dont see a ring” she smiles and we continue the kino is flying she called me a brat at least 5 times at this point all I had to do was lean in for the kiss. I backed away and left after 20 mins.

    I did it for the lozzlolzlozz

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  5. on April 28, 2013 at 11:12 am Salta

    What’s with this loolzzllolzlzol guy. I see him in every article and I know it’s a troll but it fucking pisses me off.
    Please gtfo

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 11:13 am greatest beta

      this lololzzzlolzolozz guy is full of wisdo. Read more carefully

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 8:53 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        thankz you greatest beta
        you may now graduate
        and become
        da lesser alpha
        z
        zzlzlolzozzoozozoz

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 5:04 pm greatest beta

        may the GBFM continue to make disciplozlozz of all nationzzlolzz

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 5:39 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        lzozozoozoz
        as long as there is existz womenz who appreciate
        lotsats cockasz
        den da gbfm
        shall be a world emissaryz
        of luv
        lzlzlzlzozozozozozzo

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 11:28 am Steve

      God I have to agree. I understand he’s smart and just does that for some reason or another, but fuck is it annoying reading through all of that shit to find the value. It’s like… after a while it becomes a chore like sorting through manure to find a lost ring. It’d be funny if it were understandable, but it’s always repetitive, misspellings followed by the correct spelling and I cannot for the life of me understand what the fuck loolzzlollzlzol fucking means??!

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 11:33 am Nicole

        It may be annoying, but it is worth it.

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 2:31 pm The Karamazov Idea

        Once you understand the lingo, it all gets a bit easier.

        After you get the basics, you’ll be zlozlzoozlzozlzozing all day long.

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 8:50 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        i luvs you allls o ye of little faith

        to all the spinsters with cats
        who teh fed tricked into spinsterhood/serving debt lxolllozlzl
        to all the fanboys in ther single mom’s basements
        whose dads they never knew because the fed tookawy fatehrhood lzozlzl
        to all the broken familes
        who were split up by the need to make two salaries to feed the kids
        to all aging necon womenz celeberating secretive tapings of butthex without teh girlths conthent lzozllzlzozlzl they tircked you too
        to all the spinster chix again i am sorry they sdesouled you
        in asscokcing sessins drugged you up on prozac
        told you to abort your kids no wonder your’re d[pressed and all fucjked up no lozlzlzlzling here
        my heart goes out to you while tucker max & goldman sax laugh zlzolzlzl
        too all the aborted fetushes we ask for forgiveness we deserve not and to all those tricked into aborting the gift of life lzozllzllzl we forgive u too and pray for teh fethuses, but not in school as prayer is illegal in school lozlzllzlz
        to all those inthe rising genertaion who will have to pay off their parents cultural and monetary debts lzozlz war isn’t fun but it’s part of teh fed’s fiat bubble cycle lzozlzllz so like after th e country goes bust the war starts in the ultimate pump and udmp scheme you thought enron/worldcom/fannae mae was bad lolzozlzlz just you wait lzozlzlll i hope not and ai pray for peace lozlzlz maybe we can all learn to live and get along but i think we would have to start with truth and nobility and honor and ocurage and virtue and not with fiat debt and butthex lozlzlzl that’s just nmy gues from reading heroduts and the great boooks and classis in greek and latin zlzolzllzlzl

        and the bible too about sodom and gomorroah did yuknow taht sodomycame form sodom and gonnoreah came from gommroah? lzozllz kidding about that second one i doubt it did but maybe who knows i have never had eitehr sodomy nor gonorreah and i ahve never been to sodom nor gomoorrah

        sodom must;ve been a funny place lzolzlozolllzzll and a crazy party or two and the editor in chiefstress priscilla painton at simon and schuster would have fit right in publishing tucker max’s books yah i betin gmorrah they had a tower of babel with the ofices of simon and schuster at the top across the hall form the fed lzozlzlzllzlzlzlzllzlzlz

        sometimes i wonder if poets and prophets can still change the world?

        or have they trainde too, too many women to hate, and dumbed down and drugged up too many menz? have they destoryed too many fathers and killed to many families? have the y deocnstructed tyoo many books and spilled too much blood and aborted too many fetuthes as one is one too many. have they prescribed ritalin to too many cretaive sols in chool in prozac to too many who need to be depressed and face it when they abort fetuses as god gave us feelings and makes us not pay attention to boring stae corproate teachers as all creativity comes from not paying attention to the state lzozlzzll and now it is diagnoses as a diseas lzozlzlz.

        lozlzlzzlzl

        well juust wanted to say i luv u all and nice 2 know ya and welcomes abords lzozlzl

        and 2 asnwer my own above questions
        let me jsut say
        teh great books
        wouldn’t be great
        if they weren’t immortal
        and they offer us redemption
        the moment we start living by tehir ideasl
        and epic higher stories
        so put down your hate and your secretive butthex tape
        and pick up a cross
        and come follow me
        and let me shoulderyour burden
        for my yoke is light
        dante wrote la vita nuova–the new life
        and it is time 4 u to find your new life
        for to loseth one’s old way is to fuind the new path
        so do not fear
        lozlzlzlzlzlz omg wtf am i saying lzozlzlz
        i almost blew my cover here as teh messiah lzozlzllll i hide it beind all my lzozlzllzlzlzlzlzlzlles but a couple of you ahve caught on lzozlzlzlzllzlzl

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 8:58 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        Dear Steve,

        Your deep chagrin is heartfelt, and I wish you all the best in studying the scholarly works pertaining to the GBFM’s genius.
        http://eumaios.wordpress.com/2010/06/02/gbfm-code-the-symbology-and-terminology-of-great-books-for-men/

        Neocon Butthex: symbology and terminology in the works of Great Books for Men

        lzlozoozozoozzozo comes from the Latin word lzlzozzzoozzozozozozozolzlz which means “lzozozoozoozoozzozozozozooz”

        i hope dathelepepz dat heplsz1!!

        zlzozozoozozozozozozo

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 8:14 am Orion

        Consider it practice for dealing with women. You have to sort a lot of shit but the truth is in there somewhere.

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 11:33 am ExMachina

      He who with ears to hear, let him hear the loolzzllolzlzol.

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 8:51 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        lzozozozoz For many are called, but few are chosen.zlzozozozoozz

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 12:20 pm Customer Service

      +1

      GBFM looks like a spammer, sounds like Gollum. CH seems to enjoy him so I guess we should tolerate his posts? Personally I view him as a parasite that leeches on to the blog comments, adding more frustration than wisdom.

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 1:32 pm Hugh Mann

        At first I thought him a half-witted, repetitive troll and scrolled straight past… then over time the mists cleared … and all was plain zlzlzozoozzoozozzz.

        He is unique.

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 9:06 pm New Way Forward

        I disagree, I’m actually sort of sad when GBFM hasn’t posted in a thread. Sort of like when you’re hanging out with some people and that one person who always adds spark to the encounter is missing.

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 9:47 pm driveallnight

        Agreed. It’s like cocaine without Lindsay Lohan.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 6:03 pm OralCummings

        Or its like geting onto bed with one of those hot Ethiopian bitches and discovering she has been de-clitted…

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 8:18 am PetiteOlive

        “I’m actually sort of sad when GBFM hasn’t posted in a thread”
        Me too New Way, Me too.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 8:39 am Holden Caulfield

        For some, the GBFM is an acquired taste. For the rest of us, he’s pure genius, comedic and otherwise.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 10:25 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        hey new way forward
        sorry 2 hear dat u get sad
        but remember
        i am with you
        always
        z;zozlzozozlzozolzzx2jojclhkjdwch,

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 12:44 pm ar10308

      In my mind he sounds like Gollum. His style is as important as his content. He is brilliant.

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 11:44 pm Third Beta From the Sun

        In my head he’s Gilbert Godfrey!

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 12:45 pm Southern Man

      GBFM is the Joyce of our times. Ignore him at your peril.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 11:29 am Matthew King

        Joyce sucks. And, while we’re at it, Faulkner can faulk himself too.

        Postmoderns confuse obscurity with profundity. We all need to return to Aristotle and begin with the commonly graspable, then build from there. Ever since Descartes we’ve had a fetish for the unseen, which has putrefied true scientia into an inane religion that worships invisible forces. But at least the physical sciences have a practical (and wondrous) application. Their postmodern counterparts in literature? Irredeemable refuse.

        At least GBFM made a respect for the classics central to his neurotic fantasia. Coincidence or not, I’ll give him points for that.

        Matt

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 11:52 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        hey fucktardszz

        da GBFM is not postmodern
        like your money and womenz
        but he is post post post post modernzzzzlzlzzlz zlzolzozloz

        matthew king have you ever taken a scnice clas even?

        do you even lift?

        lzozzolzkzokzokz lzozlzlzzooz lzozozokozkoz

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 1:34 pm thwack

        That dude has great nonsexual game; note his escalate, back down, escalate routine.

        That is outstanding technique.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 2:26 pm Matthew King

        I didn’t call you postmodern. You are an unmedicated schizophrenic, too indicative of simple disability to be confused with the deliberate postmodern ramblings of Joyce.

        Vitaly is great. The dude (brotha) at 2:40 has the perfect response.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 6:09 pm OralCummings

        The onliest thing Matthew King lifts is his dick,when he wanks off. *Which is basically every nite.Haw haw haw!

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 2:08 pm Red Wolverine

      Read the books. Start with the Iliad.
      “…all ye know on earth and all ye need to know.”
      Keats

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 11:31 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        lzozoz yes!!!

        To Homer
        BY JOHN KEATS
        Standing aloof in giant ignorance,
        Of thee I hear and of the Cyclades,
        As one who sits ashore and longs perchance
        To visit dolphin-coral in deep seas.
        So thou wast blind;—but then the veil was rent,
        For Jove uncurtain’d Heaven to let thee live,
        And Neptune made for thee a spumy tent,
        And Pan made sing for thee his forest-hive;
        Aye on the shores of darkness there is light,
        And precipices show untrodden green,
        There is a budding morrow in midnight,
        There is a triple sight in blindness keen;
        Such seeing hadst thou, as it once befel
        To Dian, Queen of Earth, and Heaven, and Hell.

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 2:18 pm Dr. Murray F. Rottencrotch

      The taste and sensibility to appreciate GBFM is an upper-level manosphere litmus test.

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 8:51 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        lzozozo you mispleed ltmus it is spelled like liththtumzsssss lithzzumzmz

        when you spell littehejmus think hoew nuttthext is pslleed and let it flforoswz zlzlzlozlzoz

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 2:20 pm Matthew King

      GBFM is a shit test. Or an “alpha” test. CH the pack leader is testing to see how much literal gibberish he can get you to swallow/praise on his say-so. Many fail: No, you really have to read him, he starts to make sense! Butthex, Bernankefied, lzozll, it gets deep the eighth time you meditate on it.

      There are hidden gems amid the nonsense, but that’s a distant secondary factor.

      Matt

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 2:51 pm Kate

        I don’t even try. Too many years forced to read bad writing to do it voluntarily. If he reaches a group others don’t though, that’s good. I think we like many of the same books.

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 3:51 pm Dr. Murray F. Rottencrotch

        Nein.

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 4:55 pm Man Reader

        I’ve added Lolzzzlololzz to my text game and it works. For same reason GBFM is liked here by us men. It’s so fucking crazy and hilarious. It’s like sticking your tongue out a girl. It brings humor to their dull day. It coneys you just don’t give a fuck. It’s great text game. It’s funny. Chicks dig it just like we did gbfm.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 10:14 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        yes if you want to getz laid just text da chick

        “lzozolzozozoz”

        she txts back “??”

        text

        “bring da moviezlzzolzl”

        3 EZ STEPZ: How 2 Handle FLakesz and Flakey Flakerz in da ERA of da TEXT MESSAGE attention whorez zlzlzozozz

        dis is from hearteites blog on FLAKEY FLAKE ERA WE LIVEZ IN where everyone flakes zlzozozoozoz while da gbfm sits at home and waits for da chcix who cflaked flaked on your asssss lzozozzolzolzol:::

        https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/10/29/the-age-of-flakes/#comment-38162

        how 2 counter da flakey flakesz in THREE EZ STEPZ

        1. 9 PM: da gbfm sends out a mass text 2 all my ladies:

        “llzozozolozlzozlozozozozoz”

        Da GBFM puts the phone down and reads HOMER’S ODySSEY for one hour until 10PM and checks his dozens of dozens of messages.

        “i’m in when?”
        “u again?”
        “lzozlozozzo back @u!”
        “wtf?”
        “hey i said lzozlzlozozozo to my english teacher when she asked me y my paper wasn’t handed in on time. u should hv seen hr face!”
        “u still havent told me what lzozozo means.”
        “don’t ever text me again ahole”

        den da GBFM mass texts out to everyone:

        “lotsa cocksa 4 u lzozlzlz.”

        da gbfm then gets back dozens of messages:

        lol
        wtf

        ok
        haha
        ???

        kewl
        wat?

        2. da gbfm waits and hour and sends out to everyone again:

        10 PM: “srry wrng #”

        da gbfm then gets back lotsa texts

        awwww
        lol
        too bad
        u got my hopes up
        damn you

        ur loss

        3. da gbfm then waits ’til midnight and texts to everyone:

        12 Midnightz: my place 30 min.

        den da gbfm sits back and watches the infinite parade arriving on his door camera monitor — infinite parade of womenz so tired by being hit on all night by gaming douchebag metrosexual furry hat wearringz beatsts douchesz — while da GBFM watches da espn highlights and reads homer’s ILIADZ. ding-dog ding-dong they ring da gbfm bell one by one hoping to touch da gbfm’s ding-dong zlzozozzozololzollzo but if they are under an 8 da gbfm just ignorez & reads his boookz zlzozoolzz

        at 1 am a hot NYC 10 hottie shows up and da gbfm hits the buzzer and lets her up.

        da gbfm saves lotsas times and money while the betas liquor her up at the bars and da gbfm gets to hang out with homer instaead of goldidggers and douchetard boobie-men manboobz at all the clubs these days lzlzllzlzl

        PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do nottry this on your own as da GBFM needz you out there buying them drinkz all night and getting them dinnerz as i don’t want no hos eating my puizzaaa and heinekinz beerz!!!! we all have our part in this so please please respect yo!!!!! lzozolzolozzzz

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 3:48 pm corvinus

        A correlation to this: get rid of your Facebook. Or at least, unfriend all the girls you want to have sex with. It will be the same thing.

        I did it last week. Not coincidentally, I got three numbers since doing this. Then I can send texts like GBFM’s here.

        If you find yourself unable to do this, you are not alpha.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 4:14 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        lzozozoozozoz

        hey yesterday i filed a patent for “Assbook”

        it is just lie facebookssz except everyoensz ass is on dislspaluyz zlzoozo zlzlzozlzozoozozo with their veritcal smile for which i would walk a mile zlozzlzooz

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 11:38 am Matthew King

        It’s so fucking crazy and hilarious. It’s like sticking your tongue out [at] a girl. It brings humor to their dull day. It conveys you just don’t give a fuck.

        Man Reader has a point. But maybe that’s why I have no patience for it. I’m not a girl impressed by some dude sticking his tongue out at me. Repeatedly, at length, day after day after day. I’m more inclined to think, “The fuck’s wrong with your face, brother?”

        If schizophrenia game works on chicks, I won’t gainsay it. The fact that it works on men in this forum, however, is a different story that maybe we should talk about mm’kay?

        Matt

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 8:52 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        zlozozozoz

        name one hidden gem in my supreme nonessnsnez zlzlzlzlzo

        jsut one

        i bet you can;;tt

        as your head
        is where the firepoker is
        up you butttholzizolzzo

        zlozzoozoozozozoozozoz

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 9:55 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        never fogetz matt
        dat i am not qyuoting quoting you
        but you are quoting me
        lzozozozzoozzoz
        pw3d!!!!!! zlzozlzl

        jealousy is a sin the primal eldest sin king matt primal eldest sin accoridng to hamlet

        so you would do well to stop with teh ejesoosulyz zlzlzlooz

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 10:19 am Stilicho

        I agree with you, my lolozzozozozzing friend.

        The sense of womanish jealousy seeping out of Matthew King’s comments is almost palpable.

        He’s like a 6 who’s suddenly been upstaged by a 9.

        It’s delightful to watch.

        I love it when Jesuits try to think; the results are guaranteed to be amusing. I like it even more when they don the mantle of studied arrogance and condescension. There’s something jarring, and jarringly funny, about someone who believes in a supernatural, all-powerful being trying to appear as the smug voice of intellectual reason….

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 10:20 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        yes King Ahole has been on my butt for quite some time
        which means he’s thinking about my butt
        because his own poetry don’t rhyme
        lzozlzzozolzlozzolzlo

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 10:36 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        yes,

        becuase this is the 17th time KING A MATTHEW was cuaght
        staring at da GBFM’s BUTT
        he must now pass the testz lzozzoz
        with 100% or be forver
        marked
        as da manhole mangina h8r of da GREAT BOOK FOR MENZ zkozzozzlozzozlo

        no no no no no no!!!

        have you not been paying atatentionzzz and tsudyingzz da teahcings of teh GBFM?????

        da bernanakififatcions happens THROUGH DA BUNEGLEOEGOOZLZLZOZLZ like tucker makx rheyems witwhw goldman sachsz does it as he is publishined by million billion dollar corprpoatuaoajozmz zlzllzoozozzooz corproratioznz zlolzoozzozozzozozozlozzo

        here–take da gbfm test 2 se ho wyou have been doing in class:

        da GBFM FIRDAY TESTZZ!! TO EE HOW WELL ALL OF YOU BEETATTZ BUNGHOELRZ HAVE BEEN STSUDYDYTING lzozlzozlzlzz

        lzozozlzozo da gbfm quiz:

        1. The best way to bernankify a woman is through her:
        a) nose hole
        b) ear hole
        c) mouth hole
        d) butthozlzoozlz
        e) gina hoelez
        f) zlzozozlzolzozozoz

        2. Tukker MAx rhryems with
        a) Goldman sax
        b) ben bernanke
        c) sosdoomy
        d) feminisst writer
        e) sextrrive tapingz of buttehtx

        3. The proper spellinzg of butthext is:
        a) buttheext
        b) butetehtxtxtx
        c) butetehxtxtxt
        d) buetetxlxoooozozoz
        e) butetehrolozozozozozoz

        4. The neoeocnths promote butyhe buttehxt so as to
        a) desoul your womenz
        b) beernakify your owmenz and ruin them as motehrz
        c) pwn your owmenz and addict them to buttehxt
        d) plant the butthextual longing seed that leads to divorce
        e) detsory the fmaily to put your chcildren in beernaneke day care
        f) all of da above zlzozooozlzoz

        5. The following neoenthcts faought and were injured in the Middle East warz:
        a) Jonah Goldbergz
        b) BEn BErnnanke
        c) Bill Crrystal
        d) Jonah Goelebrgz mom lucianne goldbergz
        e) bene shapriorz
        d) none of teh abaovez lzozozozozoozoz

        6. Sigmund Freud stated that the one question that puzzled him most was “What do women want?” The famous polymath poet/psychologist GBFM figured it out circa 2011. According to the great GBFM, women want:
        a) beta fucks and alpha buckz
        b) beta bucks and betasz fucks
        c) alpha fucks and alpha fucks
        d) alpha fucks and beta bucks
        e) alpha fucks, alpha buckz, beta bucks, an all your moneyz too zlozlzlzozoz

        7. The best way to gt a publishing deal with a publishing house run by women, or to be featured in a consertaive magazine article penned by women is to:
        a) write exlated rhyming poetry
        b) butthext a girl and tape it secrtely without her ocnctnt conthent
        c) write a story with plot, values, and honor, like homer’s odyssey
        d) write a shakeparean sonnet with imanbic pentaammeneterz and a couplet dat ryems at da end lzozlzlzozozoz

        8. The difference between modern ministers and pimps is dat
        a) pimps will not charge you for past use of a pussy
        b) pimps are not fronting a divorce regime which transferz money from menz to owmenz and the state at gunpoint
        c) a pimp cannot garnish your wagesz if yo ho beocme preggeersenenlzlzlzlzo
        d) a pimp does not ask for donationz
        e) a pimp doesn’t claim he’s doing god’s work by grating you temporal use of a pussy in esxhange for past, present, and future wages
        f) all of da aboveez zlozlozlzlzozozoz

        10. If a womanz is a 3 and 7 alphas pump and dump her in collegez, she will do the math and conldue she is a
        a) 3-7 = -4
        b) 7-3 = 4
        c) 7+3=10 I AM A TEN ZLZOZOZOZO!!!!!!

        11. BOUNS BONUS BOENERUS QUETSION EXTRASZ CREDITZ: Chivalry is good because:
        a) It gets betas to pay for what alpahs got for free hwen it was younger hotter tighter twnety pounds lighter
        b) It guarantees that there will be men with assetetzzz that can be rapaed via dirrvoece
        c) granpda said so, “when i was your age son,” i was married and supporting a family. man up and marry da whos!!! lzozloz”

        12. The chronalogical chroniloogical chronological economic relationshpipz between ass and assets is:
        a) da bankerz get your wife’s ass in college (as thy sefctrievly tape her doeusling in a buttehxtual buttehxting sessisin like tuukker max rheyems woith godlman saxxx) and your assets after divorce
        b) your wife givez her azz butthoele away for free in college, and then chagegegrs you moneyz (assetts) just to look at it
        c) your wife is butthurt after her ass is plundered in college and den she takes her revenge by plundering your assettsst
        d) da bankerz deosul your wife in college by bebenrnakaifying her in her buttholez ass, and den dey program her to transfer your assets to them, fgruataleyfliey transferring your assets out theorugh her bngohole and into their beenrbeeknake bank acocuntz zlzozozozoz
        e) all of da above zlozzolzozoz

        FEEL FREE TO ADD YOUR OWN QUESTSIOZNZZZZZ!!!! lzozozozoozoz

        ESSAY QUESTION: Describe thee relationship between usury and sodomy. Those who cite Milton, Dante, and other historical sources and figures will be given higher scorezz zlzozolzlozlzozlzzozozozozlz

        lzozozozolzolz bonus nboenerz wuqestsionz:
        #11. I like dating aemrican womenz and western womenz beacues:
        a) i like paying for what otherz got for fre when it was younger hotter tghtr twnety poundz lighterz lzozooz
        b) i like paying for rental carsz after i return them
        c) i like urinalz dat make me pay and make small talk each time i pee
        d) i like suiting up in a hazmat suit, self-contained breathing apparatus, snorkel, fins, and thre cans of lysol when i go down on pusysysysys zlzozozlzo
        e) i like hearing about how men created all the evil in the world including shoppng malls, cars, ipodz iphonez twitter (clitter/twatter) and even cinabun zlzozozolzozzl

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 11:13 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        lzozzlzozo

        king matthew hates my fans and insults themz
        i would love king’s fans
        if he had any
        zozoozozzozlzozlozzlozz

        https://karamazov1989.wordpress.com/tag/gbfm/

        Great Books For Men: Unsung Hero
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        I’m sure we all remember that one kid in 1st grade. He had a penchant for observational honesty and an impediment for taste and restraint.

        “Msis Deichmann hass a prple thong lozlozlzozozllzoz!” he would proclaim before being hauled off by Miss Deichmann to the nurse’s office for a dose of ritalin.

        Back in 1st grade we just thought he was the class clown. We were innocent kids concerned with monkey-bars and kickball and marrying eachother. Who’d have thought that the one kid who got hauled off to the Nurse’s for a jolt of pharma joy every day was the adult in the room?

        But our lozl’ing friend was lightyears ahead of our paste-eating selves. He saw the butthex and the secret tapings of butthex before we ever knew what pay-per-view was. Before Bernanke ever took the seat at the head of the table, this guy knew what Bernankefication was.

        It took me a while to get the message. In college I met the future educators of America. Like Miss Deichmann, their thongs hung out as they stumbled to class every day from butthexing sessions. A lot of them got Bernankefied with nice jobs along with other butthexed ladies I graduated with. The Lozlozlzlozlzlozlzozl rang in my ears as I realized how right he was after all those years. I’ve been butthexed, and so have you.

        If I ever find a woman who hasn’t had secret taping of her butthex and have little lzolozlzozler’s with her, I will be sure to say before they go off to 1st grade, “see what color thong Miss Hausman has, and tell all the other kids.” Then he’ll find out what butthexing feels like lzolzlzolzzozlzoz.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 8:05 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        dude shit tests are things girls do to you to see if you are worthy of getting in their gina or butthole.

        so why the hell would GBFM appear to be a shit test to you, unless you are trying to get your cockas into my bunghlliolo, as i have no ginahole?

        lzozozlzozzzozzol

        i think that kig matthew ust told us a lot about himself, that firepoker he walks around with up his butt is not teh only thing that he puts z up tehre, nor that he desireth to put in da butthlill of da great GBFM lzozlzlzozo

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 7:34 pm Greg Eliot

        It could be worse… Pynchon could start posting here.

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      • on April 30, 2013 at 8:30 am Matthew King

        Heh.

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 2:38 pm Frank Rizzo

      GBFM adds more value than all you haters combined. If you don’t understand you better ask somebody.

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 3:55 pm Dr. Murray F. Rottencrotch

        Ja.

        GBFM’s scattergorical, nonsensical, ungrammatical, assault-on-the-senses style is the most lucid rhetorical signal there is of the elemental madness of what the manosphere seeks to describe. It is a playful little existential scream.

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 4:36 pm Matthew King

        Or … sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Cut the tip with Occam’s Razor, true believer, and inhale freedom.

        The rationalizations for his Aspergers doggerel are almost as buffoonish as he is. One looks at “the manosphere” and sees “elemental madness” because of one’s own personal chaos. If you are rightly ordered, it’s just another playground to stride through.

        IOW, when I look at a piece of ass, I don’t dream of Helicopter Ben Bernanke. Or whiny Orthodox priests who hate Jews. Or Tucker Max’s bed stains. Or Achilles’s hatred of neocons. Or… Or… Or…

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 11:24 am Dr. Murray F. Rottencrotch

        He’s just a guy running his mouth. We get that you Really Don’t Dig him.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 4:48 pm Stilicho

        And we also get that you’re Really Jealous Heartiste Gave Him Top Billing.

        Jesus, Matt: you’re acting like a jealous woman. And it shows.

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      • on May 1, 2013 at 4:38 pm Glengarry

        “IOW, when I look at a piece of ass, I don’t dream of Helicopter Ben Bernanke. Or whiny Orthodox priests who hate Jews. Or Tucker Max’s bed stains. Or Achilles’s hatred of neocons. Or… Or… Or…”

        Perhaps you shuouould, Salieri.

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 11:15 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        thank you frank rizzo jerky boy!! lzozozozozoozoz

        zlzoozozzozoozozozoz thankzz you dr. rizzo stratatatonnzznznz

        i had lost my riatnzlozlzozozoz ritanizizilzlzozll presicisiptioinz

        BUT NOW i found it and i took my riritalaozlzozzozolzozzlzzozoz

        and it makes me go zlozzlozlzozollzlozoz
        zzlzlzozolzoz zommg zlzozloozozozozolzlzozozozz all dayz longzzz

        what is da tsory of da gbfm?

        lozozzoz when i was in third gradezz i axsked my teacher, “what is da federal resevre?”

        she sent me to da princicple!

        so i asked him, “is it federal? is it a governemnt entity? is it a reserve? does it actaully have any moneyz or does it just create debts an dbruened da eoplz taxpayer with them lzozzlzoz?”

        he sent me to the uspeirnetdenient

        so i asked himz “what gives them the moreal authorty to crate out of thin air that whihc i must labor for, and give it to tehir firendz to deocnstruct westetern civilzizioaatonz?”

        he send me to the chool nurse who prescievedbed me ritalaizinz and addeoeorloozlzozl lotass pillz lzozlzl for asking stooooopid quetsuzonzznz znzozlololzo

        so i aske dteh nurse, “how is it that the cenrtal bank can create debt out of thin air and den cgahagr inetrest on it funding wars and fmeinsisnzmz and bostionrtoonz? and aborititonz? and why do christians never speak out agianst abortion, nor sosodomy, nor the detah of marriage and fatherhood? Why do chcistians instead kneel down before game, as if moisisntening buttcocked womenz’ gina walls is the greatest glory higher dan chirst ieven? lzozlzlozoozo?”

        and the school nurse injected me with a ritalin addeorlloololzolzoz cocktail

        and it felt good goodd godod and made me go lzozozozlzozlzl all dayz longz zlzlzlzoozlz

        and ever since den

        i talked like thiss and shsook and shaked when i typex d zlllzozlzozl as i get eixicieted dat i see and hear and see thingsz that noboy else see nor hears

        for tehy are of little fiath lzozlloz

        but jesus jeusus he saves me
        and tellz me dat while the gamerz win on erth in moisuienetig da ssoccked buttcoked women’z gina wallsz with tehir lies and decpetions and degradgations
        christ tells me dat my ideas win
        in his kingdom of ideealz idealz

        and dat is da story of da GBFM

        since yu akeskekd lzozozlozz

        have a niczozoe day!! lzozlzolzoz

        i am with oyuyo alwlaolzlzlzozlzzlzooaalayayzzlozzlozzlzo

        me and ross douthathyt douthahatzlzozlzzozzlzassahatzasshatlzozlzozlzozzlzozlzo

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 3:00 pm The Bechtloff

      Yeah I don’t even bother with his comments half the time. There’s good stuff in them but his style looks like he punched the keyboard and hit send. Just not worth it half the time.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 1:18 pm Anonym

        GBFM’s style is the reason why you understand the deeper meaning. You have to think every word: “And what does that mean?” So you read it slowly and not faster as you can think.

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 3:10 pm Matthew King

      A typical reader not assured of his own independent analytical skill will look at Gobbledegook For Men’s wall of indecipherable logorrhea and think, It sure looks like nonsense, but CH and many others I respect insist otherwise, so it would be best for me to throw in on their side. It becomes an “Emperor’s New Clothes” situation. (Not unlike feminism.)

      Every community — including the loosely-affiliated one gathered here — uses telltale symbolism to maintain familiarity and trustworthiness among believers. Secret handshakes, as it were. But anyone who is immune to/beyond/above the local social pressures here will take one look at your rituals and say, why is that old fool naked?

      You can gain the confidence to call a spade a spade by being a self-assured asshole or by possessing an independent standard with which you might judge a man’s worth. GBFM groupies possess neither the bravado nor the independent judgment. I have both.

      When you assault a team’s mascot, the ire generated is not about defending the the ridiculous fuzzy chicken suit so much as it is about the fact that an interloper is challenging their community symbol. He may very well be an autistic conspiracy theorist who overwhelms his sloppy thinking with a shitstorm of Fiat Vocabulary — but he’s our autistic conspiracy theorist. My country, right or wrong.

      Matt

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 3:29 pm Heywood Jablome

        You’re over-thinking this. Go have a scotch.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 11:14 am Matthew King

        The under-thinker’s solution to the complexities of life: alcoholism.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 11:58 am Piglet

        I must dissent. The deeper you think, the more you need scotch, not less.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 1:08 pm Marellus

        Nice one Matt

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 7:37 pm Greg Eliot

        Perhaps… but I find it attenuates the pain of prolonged introspection.

        And make mine a bourbon.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 8:57 pm driveallnight

        There we go. Woodford Reserve or Bulleit on the rocks, water back.

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 5:13 pm 357

        gay

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 6:40 pm Nicole

        GBFM, like everyone else here, is writing from his perspective. He makes connections others wouldn’t make, and for this, I believe his perspective has value, even if he is difficult to understand at times.

        His message is essentially that, “A red pill or blue pill is still a pill.” We are caught in this system, and there is a way to deal with it and a way not to deal with it. The way not to deal with it is to feed it.

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 8:49 pm slumlord

        Matthew King.

        You really don’t get it? Do you?

        The trick is to see through the logorrhea; there is a poetic beauty out there.
        The smart people see the signal, the stupid, only the noise.

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 10:35 pm Creo

        I like gbfm’s acronym: lolz.
        lololzzzlolzolozz ftw.

        Here is one for you gbfm. The start of the fiat currency system…

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 8:54 pm Stilicho

        GBFM, YaReally, Mark Minter: worthwhile.

        Matthew King: waste of time. In terms of both style and substance, his scribblings are nothing more than a steaming pile of freshly-laid turd in search of an anus.

        Come to think of it, so is he.

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 10:35 pm Inane Rambler

        Yes.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 7:41 pm Greg Eliot

        Actually… no.

        You fairy.

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      • on April 30, 2013 at 3:20 am Beefy Levinson

        You company man!

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      • on April 30, 2013 at 8:20 am Greg Eliot

        Who told him he could judge the writings of men?

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 7:05 am Kate

        Each person’s unique take resonates with someone. That is the beauty of different perspectives.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 8:20 am PetiteOlive

        Exactement!

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 8:58 am feministx

        Which perspective resonates with you?

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 9:25 am Kate

        Of those four? King and Mark Minter.

        (if we keep replying to each other, maybe it’ll look like dancing)

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 10:14 am feministx

        Like the can can with no kicks. Do you find matt king appealing? I am rather drawn to him and would guess that you, maya and maybe flavia and lily would also find him attractive. I would guess that he does not particularly appeal to ras daughter and petite olive.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 10:56 am Kate

        Legs apart, legs together, legs apart, legs together..and kick!

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 12:05 pm Matthew King

        GBFM, YaReally, Mark Minter: worthwhile. Matthew King: waste of time.

        Works for me. I mean that.

        I’m not into the diversity fetish like the girls above, I don’t have a womanish tendency to get along at all costs, or to prefer comity above clarity and truth. (In short, I’m not into the “sensitivity-driven discourse.”)

        If I wanted page views or a fan club to boost my ego, I’d start my own site and whore myself for attention. Take my word or leave it: I simply don’t care about that.

        I am looking for a certain level of discourse that is hard to find in life or on the internet. I am seeking the kind of minds that can hang with and contribute to a discussion of higher-order ideas without taking themselves so seriously or things so personally that they muddle the air with insecure distraction; e.g., this subthread and most comment sections. The host of this site is clearly one of those fecund minds (among perhaps two or three others in “the manosphere”), but he doesn’t inspire the likeminded to an exchange the way Roosh V and his various outlets do, albeit at a lower level of discourse.

        If certain writers speak to you more clearly, I say devour every word they produce, more power to them, more power to you. Though I can see why you’d accuse me of entering a popularity contest. Suffice it to say, when the groundlings start to agree with me, I’ll know I’ve strayed from the mission. I take your simpleton’s consternation as an unintended compliment.

        Matt

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 7:45 pm Patriarch

        “I’m not into the diversity fetish like the girls above, I don’t have a womanish tendency to get along at all costs, or to prefer comity above clarity and truth. (In short, I’m not into the “sensitivity-driven discourse.”)If I wanted page views or a fan club to boost my ego, I’d start my own site and whore myself for attention. Take my word or leave it: I simply don’t care about that.I am looking for a certain level of discourse that is hard to find in life or on the internet. I am seeking the kind of minds that can hang with and contribute to a discussion of higher-order ideas without taking themselves so seriously or things so personally that they muddle the air with insecure distraction; e.g., this subthread and most comment sections. ”

        This.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 7:44 pm Greg Eliot

        What are you, the mayor of South Park?

        Come and get one in the yarbles, eunuch jelly thou… that is, if yer got any yarbles.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 7:45 pm Greg Eliot

        My above comment meant for Stilicho, of course

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 9:06 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        lzozozoz hey matt ing you misppleelled osme things so i am helping out here lzozozozozozozo

        “Every community — including the loosely-affiliated one gathered here — uses telltale symbolism to maintain familiarity and trustworthiness among believers. Secretive tapings of butthext, as it were. But anyone who is immune to/beyond/above the local social pressures here will take one look at your rituals and say, why is Matt King naked? Why? To get it up da bungholzozizolzzozlzolzlzozlozozozo and have it sectrely taped so as to be beenrnkfified zlzlzozololozlozolzozoz.”

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 10:39 am Matthew King

        Did you just quote me?

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 10:40 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        if it will get you to stop
        craving for my binghole buungghzlzozlzzoholzizol
        then
        yes!!
        zlzoozozozozoz

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 9:24 pm corvinus

        Well, it is in fact logorrhea. I wouldn’t call it indecipherable, tho. It is meant to be skimmed over and lozlzozlzoloz’d at. If you’ve seen it before, or don’t have all day, skip it. No biggie.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 11:12 am Matthew King

        Right, “indecipherable” is not precise. “Payoff not worth the work of deciphering” would be more descriptive.

        “If you’ve seen it before, or don’t have all day, skip it. No biggie.” = my attitude toward my haters as well. If you don’t get me, it’s partly my fault and partly the reader’s. I’m not going to argue about who is more culpable than whom about the failure of communication; I’ll just aim for better clarity the next time, without dumbing down the message. (Not an easy task.) If you don’t think it’s worth the time to decipher me, that’s what the scroll-wheel is for.

        GBFM aims for the opposite of clarity. People who imagine themselves more insightful than they are populate their expression with jargon and filler — with academe being the worst perpetrators. Only GBFM takes that muddling practice to a higher level of literalism, deliberately misspelling words and dumping massive text-blocks, making readers work for no reason other than to give the impression that they have unearthed something important.

        I don’t care about his prolix ramblings, so for the most part I don’t reply to them. I find little value in them. But this thread is about his hidden genius, which I find preposterous on its face, and that’s is the only reason I’m speaking up. It should go without saying that linking Homer to Kay Hymowitz to anal sex to fiat money is plain stupid. It’s a grab bag of unrelated items linked by force, spackled together with misspelled neologisms. His brain is a yard-sale of junk advertised as priceless antiques. He has a superficial and paranoid understanding of the history of feminism which adds nothing to my own investigation. Apparently others require his brand of flea-market revelation because they are otherwise not familiar with the subject? Not sure, don’t care.

        Is he funny? Kind of sort of, I guess. I’m not on a crusade against his kind of humor. I’m just not tickled by it, as so many coolguys here claim to be. Each to his own. Truly.

        Matt

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 11:53 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        dude why do you
        spend so much time
        h8ing on
        THE GREAT BOOSK FOR MENZ
        Homer is way way way better than youz lzozozoz

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 2:50 pm Matthew King

        It’s good to occasionally get things on record. You overinterpret the adage “Silence means consent.”

        Also: I like to vivisect poseurs when they present themselves directly to me. Otherwise, they fade into their usual background noise.

        Don’t flatter yourself into thinking I give that much of a shit or that you’re manipulating me with deliberate stupidity. You’re an amusing topic of discussion for a slow Monday. Honestly, I wish you and your flunkies had a little substance. Steel sharpens steel.

        Men with substance usually stay above the fray, and the ones who lack heft relish the fights they can’t win. Alas and alack.

        Matt

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 11:02 pm Commodus

        “It’s a grab bag of unrelated items linked by force, spackled together with misspelled neologisms.””

        You just described the entire grammatical history of the English language in one sentence. I congratulate you.

        On a different note, lighten up. Life is too short to have your kind of mindset.

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 10:34 pm Inane Rambler

        Wow you’re a fucking sperg.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 6:50 am feministx

        “A typical reader not assured of his own independent analytical skill will look at Gobbledegook For Men’s wall of indecipherable logorrhea ”

        I didn’t give this topic much attention, but now that you mention it, that is how the site appears to me.

        I had NO IDEA that this GBFM fellow was commenting regularly and that he had some kind of following. I guess I always skipped over his comments because they looked like nonsense.

        I even skipped over it when I read the OP. I needed the explanation in the comments section to actually pay attention to it. Then I tried to read it and it looked like degenerate garbage. I went to the site, tried to read it, could not decipher. It looks like snide nonsense to me.

        But I am a chick, so, it’s not the kind of phrasing that would appeal to me.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 10:19 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        yes, that is whcy chcicks chix were hired by the central bankers to deconstruct the GREAT BOOKS FOR MEN by the cnetral BANKERZ lzozozozozozozo

        here are some other books
        you will never, never, never
        hear a chick bring up
        in a bar
        nor in a club
        nor at college
        nor on a date
        nor on a plain
        nor even a train:

        As time goes on, men will find a rebirth and renaissance in reading the Great Books and Classics lzozozozzlo

        As time goes on, men will find a rebirth and renaissance in reading the Great Books and Classics in their original languages, or in translations penned before 1950. For the bible I recommend the KJVB, or, if you must, the NKJVB. The Judeo-Christian tradition contains man’s greatest assets–his greatest myths–the very souls and spirits of his exalted fathers–their trials and tribulations–their exalted advice on women, marriage, justice, money, and life. Beside your bible, keep a copy of Homer’s Iliad and Odyssey and Socrates’ Apology, for you will find that they have far more in common than not.

        The Bible begins with Moses’ heroic, physical journey–liberating his people from the corrupt King. On the first page of the Iliad, Achilles rebels against his corrupt King. Both Moses and Achilles appeared to exalted Natural Law–of Zeus and Yahweh–and tough Mill and Locke would expound upon Natural Rights millennia later, Jefferson referenced not Mill and Locke, but our Creator in the Declaration of Independence. Indeed–liberty’s poet Thomas Jefferson wrote, “As we advance in life, they all fall off, one by one, until we are left with Virgil and Homer, and perhaps Homer alone.”

        So fellas, go forth and read Shakespeare and the Bible as the Men that You Are. Read Homer and Virgil. Exalt in your classical, Judeo-Christain Heritage, for it was paid for in blood, sweat, and tears, and then given freely, to you.

        And as Dalrock points out in the above video, understand that you will be attacked–often to the degree that you serve the spirit of Socrates and Jesus who internalized the external voyages of Moses and Achilles and blazed the hero’s journey of the spirit–understand that you will be attacked and persecuted by the false prophets, pedants, scribes, and pharisees–by the state officials who wash their hands while the feminist scribes author your crucifixion.

        And remember, that even Jesus lost faith at the end. After the chief scribes and pharisees persuaded the people to free the murderous sinner Barabbas and leave Jesus to die, in the same way they do today, Jesus asked, “My God, My God, why has thou foresaken me?”

        One can easily imagine the following playing out in our own time, with the controlling feminist’s/woman’s/corporation’s/university’s/mob’s preference for the perverse and sinful–for the debauched and degraded:

        27:20 But the chief priests and elders persuaded the multitude that they should ask Barabbas (the murderer/buttcocker), and destroy Jesus.
        27:21 The governor answered and said unto them, Whether of the twain will ye that I release unto you? They said, Barabbas.
        27:22 Pilate saith unto them, What shall I do then with Jesus which is called Christ? They all say unto him, Let him be crucified.
        27:23 And the governor said, Why, what evil hath he done? But they cried out the more, saying, Let him be crucified.
        27:24 When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it.
        27:25 Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.
        27:26 Then released he Barabbas unto them: and when he had scourged Jesus, he delivered him to be crucified.
        27:27 Then the soldiers of the governor took Jesus into the common hall, and gathered unto him the whole band of soldiers.
        27:28 And they stripped him, and put on him a scarlet robe.
        27:29 And when they had platted a crown of thorns, they put it upon his head, and a reed in his right hand: and they bowed the knee before him, and mocked him, saying, Hail, King of the Jews!
        27:30 And they spit upon him, and took the reed, and smote him on the head.
        27:31 And after that they had mocked him, they took the robe off from him, and put his own raiment on him, and led him away to crucify him.
        27:32 And as they came out, they found a man of Cyrene, Simon by name: him they compelled to bear his cross.
        27:33 And when they were come unto a place called Golgotha, that is to say, a place of a skull,
        27:34 They gave him vinegar to drink mingled with gall: and when he had tasted thereof, he would not drink.
        27:35 And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots.
        27:36 And sitting down they watched him there;
        27:37 And set up over his head his accusation written, THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS.
        27:38 Then were there two thieves crucified with him, one on the right hand, and another on the left.
        27:39 And they that passed by reviled him, wagging their heads,
        27:40 And saying, Thou that destroyest the temple, and buildest it in three days, save thyself. If thou be the Son of God, come down from the cross.
        27:41 Likewise also the chief priests mocking him, with the scribes and elders, said,
        27:42 He saved others; himself he cannot save. If he be the King of Israel, let him now come down from the cross, and we will believe him.
        27:43 He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he said, I am the Son of God.
        27:44 The thieves also, which were crucified with him, cast the same in his teeth.
        27:45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour.
        27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

        Now think about that. Jesus Christ–the man who has single-handedly influenced and exalted Western Civilization and the World as no other, lost faith in God in his final moments.

        Aye, but let us explore one layer deeper, as we realize that “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?” is but the beginning of the famous Psalm 22:1:

        22 My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?

        We don’t hear the rest, as Jesus has passed through the other side, but yet, we know what Jesus is saying, as we continue on in Psalm 23:

        23 The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want.
        2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.
        3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name’s sake.
        4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

        What this means Men, is that as long as you hold true to your ideals, the false prophets and apologists have no power over you, neither in life, nor death. For as Jesus, the King of Ideals stated, “My Kingdom is not of this world.”

        Thanks again to Dalrock and Heartiste for bringing those classical, exalted ideals to life with with and humor, day in and day out.

        “Better sleep with a sober cannibal than a drunken Christian.” -Herman Melvill

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 12:32 pm feministx

        That is all well and good. But if you are not a coward, why would you hide your criticism and perspective inside this adolescent degenerate gibberish?

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 12:42 pm Patriarch

        Feministx- you forgot to say that his post was insensitive and “highly inappropriate. “

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 12:44 pm Man Reader

        In short: GBFM is educated. You are a typical woman. This stuff is way over your head. You have nice legs though, so you are doing your part in this world.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 1:00 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        i am simply
        speaking in da languagez
        of our eraz
        which h8s da GRETA BOOKS FOR MENZ
        and celebrates butthext an dgina and buttt tingalzozozo
        in a world ruled by butt tnglelzlz
        instead of god
        my soft poetry and words
        are a lamentation
        of things
        lost
        loozzozlzozlzzlozo
        and yet
        my lzoozozozozoz
        is da hopeful laughter
        of those things that wrere once lost
        whcih can be found
        again
        lzozzlozlzo

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 3:52 pm corvinus

        For those of you who don’t understand GBFM’s modus operandi, here is where he explains it.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 4:33 pm feministx

        GBFM, I get that, actually. I know why you think you write the way you do. You lament the lost splendor of what made western civilization artistically and philosophically great. You lament what men are reduced to by the post modern theorists that hate the elements of manhood. Your response to their obfuscated “re-readings” and “contextualizings” of the Western cannon and the like is to make a mockery of their obfuscation with your own jargon of adolescent cynicism.

        Still, the truth of the matter is that you are disgusting. You are revolting. You are not brilliant. You are as fraudulent of a poet as Plath. You have none of what made Great Books great.

        When I rebuff men on this site, sometimes I bruise their egos and they show it with pee-wee herman level indignation which is little more than “I know you are, but what am I, lollolzloz”

        That’s what you are. That’s what you revel in. Post modernists dethroned the male ego and the male sense of self. You respond like a dog with its tail between its leg. You respond with adolescent indignation that an 11 yr old shows when his mom shuts the tv off. “lolololzzzz I don’t care what you do! You are stooped!”

        Maybe you guys don’t know, but a man is at his absolute most revolting when he turns to that primitive adolescent state of a boy licking his wounds with naked cynicism.

        Your poem is idiotic on every level. I’ll even break it down for you:
        “The Dark Triad is
        da GBFMs
        big black lotsasoaz cockaksks
        and his two ballz! (count dem 1 2!!!)”
        While one might write a thesis about the phallic hegemony of white privilege and the like, your comment about the black issue is you being pathetic. It is the pathetic omegas of the world that fantasize about how white women are interested in rampant sex with black men. This is not the realm of the post modern world. That is the failed realm of the manosphere who can’t grasp reality and fears the fantasies in his own mind.
        “for some reason da ididiton asshole teahcerz made a mistake
        and gave me
        an
        F”
        Bullshit. If you wrote a paper blaming a phallus, you would get an A.
        “and as a ruestlt result i have been considered unemployable
        uneeplomeyyablelzl
        unepelelmployablelzllz”
        Again bullshit. Those women’s studies majors that blame white phallus for everything get far in the career world. They don’t get this comeuppance you wish they did.

        Your stupid poem mocks feminists for a fall in life they never see. They don’t end up as baristas for writing post-modern nonsense. You are slighted that they don’t fall like your ego did and all you can do is revel in some adolescent prissiness. You throw in quotes from work that is actually great as if it can somehow lend you credibility.
        You are a failed man that can’t stand erect. You can’t stand up and write what you believe in so it’s clear and strong. You are a coward and a fraud. The world knocked you (men collectively) down, and you lie in your own filth instead of dealing with real arguments that would be brought against you if you wrote like a real man.
        GBFM, you disgust me and I will not wade through your sewage. You are a pitiful fallen man who licks his wounds by returning to the most primitive pathetic defense the male ego offers, pee wee herman style back talk.

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      • on April 30, 2013 at 7:10 am Matthew King

        For those of you who don’t understand GBFM’s modus operandi, here is where he explains it.

        Satirizing our half-literate culture makes some sense. But if that’s the case, he’s too clever by half. Over-egging the pudding. Performance art is tedious. It’s the last resort of people with no better means of expression at their command. And feministx has a point about cowardice.

        Besides, there’s no there there. His satire is in the service of a nullity. I wish I could report there were something profound at the bottom of it all, but there simply isn’t. Now, he isn’t peddling the typical, lazy, internet-conspirazoid rubbish, but the quality is Zeitgeist level, which only tricks ill-informed people with no grasp of history. He is onto the profound truth expressed at CH and this site; he also understands the importance of the pagan classics and Christianity; but the shoddy thinking/paranoia overwhelms whatever proper truths he is repeating.

        Matt

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 8:10 pm Dr Caveman

        This GBFM episode reminds me of the fairy tale of the Emperor’s New Clothes

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      • on April 30, 2013 at 8:28 am Good Ole JR

        Like any prophet the GBFM speaks in symbols and parables. Like any prophecy, the message depends upon the perspective of the reader. You may not share the perspective of many of this blog’s readers in RE the end of civilization if you truly don’t see the value of the GBFM. Civilization will not end with a firey armagaddeon or war but instead with women taking their alpha fucks and beta bucks whilst the puppet fiat masters pull the strings.

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 3:34 pm Heywood Jablome

      If you sift away the “lololzlzzolzzol bernanke tucker butthex” chaff, you might want reconsider your opinion.

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 4:28 pm Days of Broken Arrows

      Not a troll in the least. In fact, he’s defined a bunch of key manosphere ideas and coined the phrase “alpha fux and beta bux,” which kind of sums up the whole thing.

      Anyway, be careful out there. A lotta women have been Bernankified.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 10:17 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        lzozozoz

        DATZ RIGHT

        BREVITY IS THE SOUL OF WIT
        which is why
        DA GBFM GETS ALL DA TIT

        zlzozozozlolzozoz

        ozozozozozozoz heartsistez!!!

        i need to send dat lady some t-shirts!!!!!!

        http://www.cafepress.com/greatbooksformen.582539775

        “da professional womenz ode”

        alpha fucks and beta bucks
        dat is how we roll
        da butthexting cockass we fucks and sucks
        and in our anuthes it doth deosul
        alpha fucks and beta bucks
        it is da way of da fed
        to transfer assetss to dose who butthext
        cuckold dose who pay for our bread
        beta bucks and alpha fucks
        it’s what day teach us we;’re entitled too
        da assetts from betas we plucks
        after da alphas desol us through our hole for poo
        lzozozlzzolzlzlzlz
        cuckold da betas cockhold da alphas
        datsz what day taught us in mba grad school
        as da feiisnsits see no truth nor justice in their laws
        and say da great books for menz was all fools.
        yes, yes, i did very good on my gmats
        dey bernenakifed my soul away, left me with cats

        zlzlzzozozozo

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 8:48 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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    • on April 29, 2013 at 4:43 am Man Reader

      I agree that the great books for men should win comment of the week every week but that’s not even his best comment this week

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    • on April 29, 2013 at 8:29 am neme

      my god what a bunch of philosophical phaggots. GBFM is fucking hilarious, and yes, he contributes with brain also, more than you clueless boys always chewing the same words without purpose: “shit test, that’s beta etc.” at least he adds a little fun to all your serious mental masturs

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 10:33 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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        as they spend so much time
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  6. on April 28, 2013 at 11:26 am earl

    “I don’t normally do this.”

    Usually comes after I say something that in my mind is thinking…

    “I don’t normally say this.”

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  7. on April 28, 2013 at 11:42 am Ovid

    “I normally don’t do this”

    I heard this my very first time with a soccer mom. LOLLZZZZ!!!

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 6:49 pm Zombie Shane

      Married, Separated, or Divorced at that time?

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  8. on April 28, 2013 at 12:16 pm Nicole

    I’d venture that with a fair proportion of women “I don’t normally do this…” is true. How often do they meet a guy they would actually consider sleeping with right away? It’s probably not very often unless they’re strippers or something, and even then maybe not.

    Women are in it for the commitment usually. If a woman is out there looking for a dick with no commitment, or even open to that, it’s usually because she is desperate, maybe for attention and maybe for sex.

    I have quite a high sex drive for a woman, but I don’t start to feel really driven to get out there unless it has been 6 months. Then it’ll take me another couple of months to convince myself that it is worth it to go out there and sleep with some guy so I don’t start having deprivation depression.

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 1:13 pm moe jones

      Shut up Nicole

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 2:33 pm Matthew King

      Correct.

      “I don’t normally do this” isn’t a lie because “normally” she is dealing with non-aggressive men. A woman doesn’t often fall under that spell because she “normally” doesn’t get that far with the kind of men strong enough to lure her outside of her “boundaries.” There just aren’t that many alpha males in our culture

      “I don’t normally do this” is dishonest insofar as it is typical female double-speak for “Please don’t think I’m a slut.” Because she is about to do something slutty, and truly, she does not often do those things — except for you, alpha studmuffin.

      Bigger female lies: “He’s just a friend.” “It was just a hook-up, didn’t mean anything.” “It’s cool, let’s keep it casual.”

      Matt

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 2:55 pm Kate

      “I’d venture that with a fair proportion of women “I don’t normally do this…” is true.”

      Agreed. Men who hear it a lot probably would start to think its a lie because a lot of women are saying it. It becomes normal to them, but its still out of character for the woman.

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 3:22 pm saint of killers

      I got a variation on “I don’t normally do this” Friday night.

      “I’m not that kind of person” she said, lying stark naked on my couch. I just smirked and put on a movie.

      The next day I picked her up and fucked her relentlessly, all through the night.

      Bitches man. Whatever.

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 3:30 pm Heywood Jablome

      Women are in it for the commitment usually.

      Spin, hamster. Spin.

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 3:33 pm A man

      @Nicole

      You wrote, “Women are in it for the commitment usually.” What do you mean by commitment? What is the minimum kind of commitment a woman is in it for?

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 3:35 pm Heywood Jablome

        From alphas: fucks. From betas: bucks.

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 4:49 pm Nicole

        Women who aren’t sociopaths hope, when they have sex with a guy, that he’ll want to keep them forever. When that doesn’t happen, they tell themselves whatever they need to in order to get through the shame.

        So there isn’t really a minimum. If you’re not interested in a commitment, make that clear from the start. It might not help them all to avoid getting attached because getting attached is natural for women. It will count as fair warning though.

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 6:53 pm FuriousFerret

        “Women who aren’t sociopaths hope, when they have sex with a guy, that he’ll want to keep them forever. When that doesn’t happen, they tell themselves whatever they need to in order to get through the shame.”

        Cost of admission.

        You do know that tickets are required for the cock carousel, right?

        You see there was time where you had to offer commitment first in order for attractive pussy. Women still are able to demand commitment first however the rub is you have to be worth it. When the choice is sure commitment from beta vs. the alpha cock lotto ticket, I think we all know how that one plays out.

        Besides today the guy has to sleep with her first. It’s can’t be done any other way simply because that’s what an alpha does. If a guy waits he isn’t an alpha and non alpha is unacceptable. Boy we certainly have painted ourselves right into a little corner haven’t we girls?

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 4:52 pm Nicole

        Furious, not all girls are in that corner. A young virgin who keeps herself moderately well has no trouble finding takers. Worst case, she’d have to step out of her element and find someone from a culture or class who still appreciated loyalty. There are plenty out there.

        The way to stay out of that corner is to have the luck of being raised by non mainstream folks. That could be fairly strict religious people or simply very honest people. In my observation, honest parents get better results in the long term. Girls don’t even feel tempted to give it up frivolously because they’ve seen enough people suffering the consequences.

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 6:59 pm Zombie Shane

        “When that doesn’t happen, they tell themselves whatever they need to in order to get through the shame.”

        One of the founding principals of Modern Game Theory [as a discipline within the greater Dark Enlightenment] is that, in an era of ubiquitous Facebook/Twitter/Youtube pornification of society, of Roofie-induced gang rapes, and of twice- or thrice-weekly binge-drinking episodes which invariably end in a carousel ride, THERE IS NO SHAME.

        So maybe you could submit a 5000-word guest essay, to the Chateau, on how chicks these days are just faking the shamelessness, and that deep down inside, they really are just completely disgusted with themselves…

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 7:09 pm Nicole

        Women who value themselves seek valuable attention from men who would value them. Even if they’re not clear on how to go about that, they seek to be valued. Even if they will do things in private with men who will treat them in a way that some would call degrading, they’re not out there shaking it for any and everybody.

        Women who feel bad about themselves seek to be degraded by the general public and give it away to guys who are sure not to invest in them.

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 7:38 pm Patriarch

        Translation: If a woman enjoys such behavior then she is somehow damaged lest this be shown to be evidence that women enjoy being degraded by powerful males. Egalitarianism alert! Egalitarianism alert!

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 7:50 pm Nicole

        Read what I said and not what you wish it said so you can feel like you’re winning something.

        I specifically accounted for “degrading” things done in privacy.

        The general public is not a singular powerful male. Shaking one’s ass for the general public is shaking one’s ass for a bunch of wanking omegas.

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 7:59 pm Patriarch

        Oh I read what you said, and once I navigated the rationalizations I came to my conclusions. Don’t hate the players, hate the game.
        Women thoroughly enjoy shaking their butts in public if they can and if they can’t they love shaming those who do.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 4:42 pm Nicole

        Patriarch, keep telling yourself that.

        It’ll make the day the girl whose virginity you took and then threw away’s suicide seem less jarring.

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 8:57 pm hey_wilber

        I heard that last night..“I don’t normally do this”. I believe her. She changed her tone later. I think the statement was “Damn, I’m in trouble here” and “OMG, you fill me up”. Winner, winner..chicken dinner!

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 4:51 pm Patriarch

        “Patriarch, keep telling yourself that.It’ll make the day the girl whose virginity you took and then threw away’s suicide seem less jarring.”

        Last I checked all of the ones I took are still alive. Keep trying to shame me though…for a split second I literally thought I felt something.
        Of course my logical forebrain keeps telling me that someone who would kill themselves after losing their virginity probably isn’t going to make it very far in this insidiously evil, white, male world. Lord, she might even have to learn to deal with…gasp, life!

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 5:04 pm Nicole

        Patriarch, you’re reacting like a rebellious teenager who, when someone gives them some good advice or a mature perspective, treats them as if they’re trying to harm you.

        I’m on your side here. I’d like you to understand that in your wake are damaged women whose ability to bond to men who would invest in them has been impaired. They share responsibility for that damage, but you do realize that if indeed you are a true rebel and independent thinker, you’re basically preying on the sheep.

        This is not morally wrong…no more than when a cat eats a mouse. Just understand that this is what you’re doing, or the fallout is going to shake you up.

        When you play with vaginas, you play with hearts, and when you play with hearts, you play with lives. Enough idiots have been killed over love that you should understand this by now.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 5:38 pm Anonymous

        You see Nicole…everything you say to me is simply a rationalization of your inner female limbic system generating subconscious algorithms that it is programmed to do. Once the feeling reaches your conscious level of awareness your forebrain has to rationalize the behavior in a meaningful way. Everytime you react to me it is simply a justification of how you feel. That is what feminism is. Much like countless nuerons reacting to stimuli, the collective rationalization of why females find themselves in their current situation forms the basis of feminism. That is why it cannot be trusted. It is mere illusion designed to keep women firmly entrenched in the justification in the belief of their perpetual victimhood. The louder you screetch you are on my side, the more I realize that you aren’t because my worldview and yours are diametrically opposed in both methodology, belief, and desired outcome.

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      • on April 30, 2013 at 2:22 pm Nicole

        I don’t need to justify anything because premarital sex is not counter to my morality. I am a practitioner of Vodun, not any of your judaic belief systems that promote the idea that sex is somehow unnatural. Nor am I a neo “Pagan” poser rebelling for its own sake. I actually believe in the Orishas as personifications of forces of Nature who admittedly we can’t fully comprehend and need legends and myths to help us to relate to them in a productive way.

        My morality is the law of the jungle. This means that morally, I can shag whoever whenever I want, but choose not to because this would be bad for me and possibly whoever’s man or woman I would be poaching if they’re taken. Nature does a fine enough job of stomping the weak, including the weak willed, that I don’t need feminism to empower me or a Santa in the sky to keep me in check. The facts will do.

        What’s immoral to me is being stupid and doing stupid things that are self destructive or counter to fostering a sane society.

        Call it a rationalization if you like, but it beats whatever you tell yourself to keep feeding insane women’s egos in an an insane society.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 3:14 am MattDamon

        Man shame and women shame are intrinsically different.

        Manly shame comes in the form of “how can I look in the mirror now”. It’s self centered and introspective.

        Womenz, however project shame. Being vile creatures, their shame takes the form of “what will the others think of me”.

        There is shame, but it’s slightly twisted.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 10:21 am Man Reader

        This. Another way to illustrate is the discussion of “big picture” thinking that is done in the manosphere. I wrote on this a few days ago. There are no truly educated women. They simply don’t think about society and big picture and think only of me me I I I me mine myself me me!! me!! and shoes and handbags. I overheard two grotesque, spoiled, 60 something jew women the other day in the gym talking about how one paid $800 for her botox injection and whatever other useless things she does to her disgusting face. Actually the Brooklyn-born (I can tell) jew was complaining, of course, on the phone, to the shop, claiming she had been told it would be $700–nevermind that she signed the credit card slip and only decided to try to jew down the price from the safety of a distance phone call. Meanwhile, after I paid my $4,000 this month to my ex wife, and her rent and my rent and take care of my kids otherwise, I just bought my kids a digital piano for $499…struggled to do that…so my kids can practice cause I also have them in piano lessons. And this grotesque jewish bitch thinks nothing of spending $800 of her husband’s hard earned money injecting poison into her disgusting jew face.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 11:02 am hurrdi

        the first one is guilt

        the second one is shame

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 5:27 pm Anonymous

        This is not a Lifetime Channel movie. The audience did not go “awwwww” after you said that. You cannot moralize a situation and claim ammorality in the same rant. Much like dealing with the pain of childbirth, women have evolved ways of dealing with men using them for sex. It’s called rationalization. Not that you’ll understand what I’m telling you anyway because you are under it’s power now as we speak but at least some of the other readers get to see it unfold in real time. This conversation we have been having is the perfect example of why arguing with feminist thought goes nowhere. Feminism is simply a massive rationalization to explain female behavior on the part of women. For those who can see it, feminist thought is nothing more than the end product of untold numbers of females deluding themselves with the very same gender specific mental operations they claim don’t exist in the first place. Much like someone trying to decode the illusionary aspect of consciousness, the subconscious nature of female rationalizon dupes the subject into a state of blissful certainty as to her motives like a captivd plugged into the Matrix rationalizing away the existence of the Matrix based on “observation. “

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 5:16 pm Patriarch

        Be careful, Fox. It’s a trap. It’s all a test. Much like how you would bring up the subject of a snarlin’ gnarlin’ to gauge her reaction to see if you’re going to get your Marlboro Man smoked, women will bring up commitment to see your status. Her response is programmed to gauge your reaction AND to cover her own tracks lest you bring forth the correct noncommittal answer so she can convince herself that since she brought up commitment during your conversation with her, you guys “talked about being serious”. She brings it up now as a regurgitated response. Pavlovs dog doesn’t need food to make him salivate.

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 6:20 pm cynthia

      Agree with all of this. I have that struggle myself – is it worth it to go out and have some unattached fuck, just to have some guy be affectionate towards me for a little while.

      I tend to deal with that deprivation depression, though, rather than go find something. Me, personally, it’s no good if there’s no connection with my partner, even if I haven’t had any in a long time. Considering I’m going on fifteen months at this point…

      And actually, the last time was a “I don’t normally do this” situation, in a completely honest way.

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    • on April 29, 2013 at 6:18 am BuenaVista

      Actually, just because a woman doesn’t “do this” more than a couple times a year, doesn’t mean she doesn’t “do this”: it means she does it on her own schedule, and with her own justifications. If your wife or girlfriend does it once, she’s really already done it 100 times. Do you feel better about betrayal if it only happens twice a year? A lie is a lie. And she is expressing a preference to lie, at the same time she’s asking you if that thing in your pants feels like a gat because you’re happy to see her.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 9:05 am Patriarch

        If you marry a woman who has only blown you once then I would say the real betrayel is to ones own self. I don’t understand the rest of your post so I’ll just pretend like you were agreeing with me.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 9:28 am BuenaVista

        Not sure what blowjobs have to do with “I’m normally a chaste and perfect snowflake, so it’s not often that I fuck men in parking lots” trope. Also, I was commenting on Nicole’s defense of the “I don’t normally do this sort of thing”, which that little gray line up there indicates? I think she’s mistaken.

        My point, to be more explicit, since I am in a helping profession and I guess you need some, is that morality is rarely situational. The frequency, with which one lies to oneself or others, does not mitigate the lie. If a woman wants a zipless fuck, it’s a free country out there, but doing it 10 times a year versus 100 doesn’t turn it into a “I don’t normally pick men up in bars …” kind of thing.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 10:55 am Patriarch

        Morality serves the needs of the strong in subjecting the weak willed and mind. Nicole juzt goes off on self serving tangents but we love her and her hamster all the same.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 10:56 am Man Reader

        Her is how much feminism has hurt WOMEN who would otherwise be sweet and want to be the right way. My ex GF, who is tatted up with a tat under her boob even, and who I admit is great in bed, thought it was actually cool to tell me how re: one of her ex BFs they had a bet about him moving her furniture for her and in return she’d give him a BJ 40 days in a row and she actually made it to like 29 or something like that. Because of “sexual freedom” and the fact that I’m the one fucking her “now” and she’s good in bed, I’m not supposed to care. Now I’m not a fucking backwards Islam taliban nut job, but yeah all men want not necessarily a virgin but something close to chastity graded on a modern bell curve. So she lost major points with me when she told me that and she probably didn’t even know it. KNowing that some jackwad held her right boob while tattoing a big flower under her boob in that sensitive area–she lost points. Constantly interrupting me and being bitchy while having man hands….lost points.

        So then I started to realize, tramp stamp, tats, reading this blog…she was a wild thing in her 20s….a perfect modern “sexually free” woman. Then at age 34 she wanted beta me to marry her for–as pointed out here–what others got for free when she was younger, tighter, and hotter (and she had a STUPID SICK ballerina body in her 20s). No thanks. This blog wised me up.

        So I was supposed to marry her at age 38 actually (she was almost 35 when we met…dated the last 3 years)…and watch her age to age 50? Even though she had a tight body still from dancing…not much longer.

        I was supposed to marry her when she was 24 and enjoy 15 years of her good body.

        Now…not her fault that I didn’t meet HER then…but I met her equivalents…all of them were having “me time” in their 20s…like that article CH linked to..typical woman had 60 sexual partners and her beta BF is lucky to have 5 or 10.

        BS.

        And on my creepy new one..now I remember..I didn’t tell her my # but she seemed to think it was bad becaause beta me has managed to sleep with 18 chicks during the 19 years I’ve been sexually “active” from age 19-38. LSOSLOLZOZLZOZL

        The average “nice guy” does get some 7s and an 8 or two (like me…if he’s tall enough and good looking enough)…but cannot just sleep with a women like a 7 woman can any time she wansts.

        Thenm Im supposed to feel like some kind of man slut when I have actually turned down sex throughtout my life for reasons such as not wanting to get an STD and not actually wanting my notch count to be too high, or because I knew it would not work out and actually didn’t want to hurt the girl or caus eher to throw a brick through my windown.

        so creepy girl feels real sorry for herself that she’s only had sex with 2 guys. What a fucked up world it is for a woman lke that.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 6:17 pm Nicole

        The modern woman has a confused relationship with morality. It is far too dependent on religion usually, and very little air time is given to morality in the context of what is best for society, or even self worth.

        Nature does not play favorites, so there is such a thing as sane standards of behavior, as in things that are less likely to get you stomped by Nature, including human Nature. It’s just that what keeps one person sane may drive another quite insane.

        I can buy that for some women, sluttery is abnormal because for around half of women, serious sexual pleasure is abnormal. Some women can go many months or years, and the day they meet a dude who tickles them just the right way, they don’t know what to do with themselves.

        So I kinda put this post in the category of “Things Alphas Experience and Other Guys Don’t But Try to Relate to the Masses As If”.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 6:36 pm Patriarch

        Seems to me the modern woman has been let off her chain and is now roaming the neighborhood eating out of garbage cans and buttscooting across strange people’s yards. Anyone who dares to raise a newspaper to swat her on her shit stained nose for her mangy ways is chastised as victimizing the poor animal. With each passing day wallering in the gutters her chances of being struck by a car grows and the chances of her being taken in as someones pet again shrinks.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 9:20 pm BuenaVista

        There’s absolutely nothing that uniquely prevents a female from *not* having a “confused relationship with morality.” Other than a female’s decision to abjure morality. Any other explanation defines the female sex as being incapable of thought, which I suspect is not your point.

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      • on April 30, 2013 at 11:55 am Nicole

        BuenaVista, it’s not that women are incapable of thought. It’s just that they are seldom required to think. The vast majority are extremely socially dependent, so social reality is reality for them.

        If the society says that morality is outdated, and that you have to look out for yourself and your “needs” first, and nothing matters more, then this is what they will believe. From that, they will create a situation in which being moral is a weakness that means you will at least appear to have fewer opportunities.

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  9. on April 28, 2013 at 1:26 pm anonYmous

    I normally don’t do this… As I come over to her house in the early morning after talking to her for 20 minutes on a dating site claiming we were “just” going to cuddle. Instinctively they know they are giving themselves up for free, the rationalization is, just this one time… course its never just this one time. Its like the alcoholic/addict saying if things go my way this one time I wont have to drink. I hear this on all SNL and SNA’s… Its how I know there wont be any LMR. lolzlolzolzzzz

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  10. on April 28, 2013 at 1:33 pm Quint

    What do the denizens of the Dark Enlightenment make of this?

    32 Lessons from a Saudi Prince’s Instagram:

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/katienotopoulos/32-lessons-from-a-saudi-princes-instagram?utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=buzzfeed

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  11. on April 28, 2013 at 1:49 pm C

    “every sicilian or italian I’ve known has claimed their family has mob connections. just like every black guy is a producer and its every stripper’s first day. its all bullshit.”
    very true. in my country all africans are the son of a chieftain and many of the americans has royal/noble european roots.

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  12. on April 28, 2013 at 2:29 pm AnonyMouse

    GBFM is a feminist troll. Read it all again. Basically a troll who regurgitates anything said in articles here to “illuminate” how “stupid it all sounds” via poor grammar and atrocious spelling. When one is disproved, they resort to childish tactics to fight back. When they have already lost.

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 4:56 pm Man Reader

      Feminist ??? LOLOLZZLOLOLZZZZ. read carefully.

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    • on April 29, 2013 at 5:01 am Man Reader

      LOL ZZ ZZ LOL ZZ ZZ you have to be an idiot Trabold feminist can you Read and it is your IQ higher than 85?

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  13. on April 28, 2013 at 2:38 pm Matthew King

    “It’s every stripper’s first day” = hilarious

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 4:41 pm pavetack

      and she’s stripping to pay for college, man.

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    • on April 29, 2013 at 12:15 am gunslingergregi

      especially when ya see em 8 months later and its their second day

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 9:08 am Patriarch

        Don’t you just hate when the stripper talks about her kids or family life while you’re trying to enjoy the lapdance? I know you have kids lady, I see your C-section scar.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 5:59 pm anonYmous

        I remember it being droopy tits, c-section scar and stretchmark night at a local dive. ugh. oh and dont forget your free drink tickets that come with the cover charge. If strip clubs were smart they would do most their business by reservation. eliminate all the bs, and have at least a little class.

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  14. on April 28, 2013 at 2:59 pm Rum

    Once you realize that everyone on the Internet is a Troll; there can be a kind of peace…

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  15. on April 28, 2013 at 3:03 pm Patriarch

    “Women are in it for the commitment usually. If a woman is out there looking for a dick with no commitment, or even open to that, it’s usually because she is desperate, maybe for attention and maybe for sex.I have quite a high sex drive for a woman, but I don’t start to feel really driven to get out there unless it has been 6 months. Then it’ll take me another couple of months to convince myself that it is worth it to go out there and sleep with some guy so I don’t start having deprivation depression.”

    Within this statement we see the hamster run amuck; slut shaming and anti slut defense.

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 4:51 pm Nicole

      Dude, I wrote the non sociopathic Slut Rules. When guys take the time to get to know me well enough, they know that’s me, so I’m not trying to pretend that what I’m doing isn’t an act of sluttery. I’m just assuring them that I come in peace and will go in peace.

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 4:56 pm Patriarch

        …I hear you knockin’ but you can’t come in.

        My point further proven.

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 5:02 pm Nicole

        If your point is that my hamster is run amok, consider that I am 42 years old, have done my beta time, and am just trying to get through my last few years of having a sex drive with minimal frustration. The days of me worrying about who I’m going to marry and make babies with are long past, and having someone to grow old with already, I would just be happy with friendly, respectful dick.

        Young women with options, I advise to save it for their husbands, but not all of us are young, and not all of us have lots of options. Some of us have to take what we can get. Best that we do that with as much gratitude as we can muster.

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 5:06 pm Patriarch

        …I smell feminism.

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 5:17 pm Nicole

        Then your nose is up someone’s ass who gives a shit.

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 5:22 pm Patriarch

        “Then your nose is up someones ass who gives a shit.”

        Tell us again that you don’t care. I think your ego is the only one who believes you.

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 5:32 pm Nicole

        Here’s the thing, Patriarch…I do care. I care A LOT. This is my problem though, and not a guy’s problem. I’ve learned from experience that nobody really gives a crap about my feelings.

        I don’t judge myself by how other people treat me or feel about me. I judge them and their worthiness to be in my life by that. If someone doesn’t care about me, I have to make myself not care about them, and this is something an older women can do but a younger woman should not.

        Because I am not a feminist, I understand that things are different for younger and older women. I’m not stupid and deluded enough to think that older women have the same kind of leverage in the sexual or marriage market as younger women. If a guy values me, then that is some sort of miracle from whatever Deities of Deviance there may be in the Universe, and I should be freakin’ thrilled.

        Unless or until that happens though, a woman has to do what she has to do to survive in a world where dudes would rather masturbate, and considering the divorce racket, often for very good reason.

        Men aren’t the only ones who’ve been screwed by the current politics of princess-tude. Women who weren’t rich and/or pretty enough to be insulated from the fallout are getting screwed too.

        Since I’ve been fighting with guys who think I’m their equal since childhood, now I have to try to find sex partners a couple of times a year among guys who think I’m their equal.

        What I don’t understand is why you give a crap what a 42 year old, fat, Black woman does to keep from being depressed. It’s not as if I’m in your league.

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 5:40 pm Nicole

        Darn filters…Anyway, Patriarch, you are so barking up the wrong tree. I have to be hard *because* I care. What I don’t give a shit about is whether or not dudes who wouldn’t even shag me think I’m somehow wrong for taking on the guys who would a couple of times a year.

        You can shove your judgment up the cunt of the hot chicks you exclusively pump and dump.

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 6:17 pm Patriarch

        No one ever said you were wrong for naturally reacting in the way you did to the original post. What is humorous is how well you subconsciously stick to the female script of pretending that any woman who goes out looking for sex “must be desperate” and in the next breath admit that you do it also but only when it’s been a considerable amount of time and that you do it so you don’t have “deprivation depression.” Subconsciously you have slammed other women for being slutty while admitting that you take part in the festivities when you can but give a nonsexual reason why to deflect any accusations of sluttiness. By the book female behavior.

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 6:32 pm Nicole

        Patriarch, the only women who go out looking for a dick are desperate because normally, a woman doesn’t have to go anywhere to find a dick. Dick falls in her lap.

        Admittedly, lots of dick tries to fall into my lap too, but most of it I won’t take because it’s attached to guys I know are somehow morally obligated to harm me because I’m not one of the right religions here in Israel. So it can be years before I would meet a guy I didn’t feel like I was swimming in sewage with if I didn’t actually go out to hunt. When I’m doing the hunting, I get to choose, but it is at the cost of being slutty. It is, in my opinion, a lesser evil though.

        It truly is a humiliating thing to be a slut, but it is what you have to do, or else be alone, if you are in a hostile dating environment.

        Once a woman realizes that she is low value, she can either go into denial or deal with the reality. I choose to deal with the reality. Most guys think I’m ugly and too old. Very few are going to find any value in me beyond an interesting shag, and of those very few are going to find me worth keeping because I wasn’t a virgin when I met them.

        Other women may be desperate in different ways, but for certain, unless they don’t have the ability to bond with guys, they are doing it out of desperation.

        Not every woman is speaking from a position of superiority. I understand that I am saying that I am desperate sometimes, but that is desperate enough to suck it up a couple of times a year, not desperate enough to be out in the clubs every weekend.

        So though, as Matt says, it’s doublespeak, when it comes to frequency, most women don’t normally hike up their skirt for just any dude. It is not unheard of, but it’s still an exceptional case for a guy to get in the drawers on the first night.

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 6:09 pm saint of killers

        Nicole, at 42 you can still find a decent older chap to nest with. That being said, I don’t see anything wrong with the way you’re going about things, in the absence of better options.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 5:19 pm Nicole

        Saint, well, miracles happen every day. I’ve led a strange life thusfar, so I’m not counting anything out of the realm of possibility.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 9:13 am Robert James Griffith

        I think you have much wisdom in regards to the dynamics of sexual relations between the sexes. Before I was married, I fucked around a ton. Most were around my age. Give or take a year or two. However there were probably about a dozen females who were older than my by more than a few years that I would feed the goods to from time to time.

        In a nutshell, I have been told things that were very similar to what you were going on about in your last post. I remember one chick in particular, she was from Spain. I have no doubt she would have been a high 8 or low nine when she was young. When I was banging her she was 37. Still a low to mid 6. Beautiful tan, fit, but just starting to develop certain traits that make a women look undeniably older. I was only 20. After screwing her for a solid 4 hours straight she would often tell me how blessed she was that a 20 year old boy found it in his heart to “fuck me senseless”.

        Don’t get me wrong, I enjoyed fucking girls that were around my age a bit more than the older ones. However I gained some immensely invaluable insight into the female psych by having relations with women that were a decade or so older than myself.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 9:25 am Patriarch

        Even apex predators scavenge from time to time. Just be careful. Too much dead rotten meat makes one lazy and sometimes sick. You never knowcwas chewing on her easily obtained carcass before you found her.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 5:28 pm Nicole

        Well, Patty just summed up in a nutshell why doing guys without vetting them for butchness is like swimming in sewage. They’re like chicks who require a giant cock, the stars to be perfectly aligned, and lab conditions to get them off. They require a woman to be optimally young and hot to get an erection.

        Something about happiness, comfort, and gratitude stimulates more masculine men. It does nothing for dudes who are in denial of the power of their own penis.

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 6:12 pm cynthia

      How is this slut shaming? Or ASD?

      Women’s sexual appetites work different than men’s. There’s no sexual background hunger like there is for men (as I understand it). We don’t primarily crave the physical aspects of sex, but the emotional/psychological. When we can’t get the latter, we’ll settle for the former, but it takes some serious deprivation to get to that point. It’s similar, I suppose, to a guy letting some girl use him as a LJBF platonic buddy – he’d like to fuck her, but he’ll settle for the emotional connection in lieu of.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 6:19 pm Modern Primitive

        “he’d like to fuck her, but he’ll settle for the emotional connection in lieu of.”

        Not in lieu of, as a stepping stone to fucking her, hopefully. One day. Maybe.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 6:31 pm Anonymous

        My posts are not showing up for some reason half the time.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 6:44 pm Patriarch

        Nah Nicole it really is as simple as looking good.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 6:51 pm Nicole

        Most women look good. You and guys like you need the stars aligned (for her to be or look like she is under 25), lab conditions (not to have had a hard enough life for it to show), and a big cock (symmetry and delicate features).

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 6:55 pm Patriarch

        Most women do not look good. If they did feminism would not exist. You interpreting male sexuality through the lense of female experience is hilarious. The goblin is in the simplicity.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 8:11 pm Nicole

        Most women do not look good enough ***for you***.

        Alphas and masculine men have enough dick for everybody clean and in reasonable shape. This is exactly why women being unchained is a problem. The dudes who can get it up are doing that while the shy are doing without and the picky princesses are chasing the exceptionally hot, and neither of you are missed.

        You have to be relevant to be missed.

        Your mission, if you choose to accept it, is to encourage young women not to waste their time and squander their beauty and become self destructive harpies so that the day you might want to wife one of them, you don’t have a dilema of having to choose *either* looks or character. You should want the world to be one in which you can have both without it being corrupted by entitlement culture.

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      • on April 30, 2013 at 8:14 am Matthew King

        Very smart, Nicole.

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 5:12 am Nicole

        Thank you, Matt. 🙂

        Certain things, I had to learn to accept and live with myself, but I determined that the curse was not going to live another generation in my family or sphere of influence.

        Seems a little megalomaniacal, but oh well. Each of us has some influence, and we should, like, use that if we want to see a better world.

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  16. on April 28, 2013 at 3:23 pm Marky Mark

    GBFM for President!!!!

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 10:16 pm whorefinder

      Only if I get to be Secretary of Negroes!

      RAPE!

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 10:38 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 1:25 pm Marky Mark

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        would be best selling album ever!!!!

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 5:42 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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  17. on April 28, 2013 at 3:34 pm thatgirl

    As a female mostly-lurker, I enjoy the meme that is GBFM. He’s funny, It’s good to see him get some appreciation from the owner(s) of this blog.

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    • on April 29, 2013 at 10:52 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      lzllzozo
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      and the huffingtonpost too
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      • on April 29, 2013 at 10:53 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        arianna
        huffed
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        hence the huffingpuffingtonpost
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      • on April 29, 2013 at 3:53 pm corvinus

        GBFM owns Huffington Post with his Dark Triad lozlzozlzozlzozol

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 4:13 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        das right yo!! lzozzoozzoz

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    • on April 29, 2013 at 11:38 am Eugen

      You know he’s the owner of this blog, right? Also, he’s a geek. 🙂

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  18. on April 28, 2013 at 3:46 pm Full-Fledged Fiasco


    Women in charge
    :

    “The female assistant police officer got into a conversation with Tomislav Boduljak and his friend late at night in central Stockholm.

    According to Boduljak, 27, the police officer was pleasant at first, but changed her attitude when he said he worked out. Saying his muscles were ‘abnormal’, she said he must have used drugs.

    “I asked if she didn’t think it possible that I work out a lot and eat well. She said that if someone looks like me, she assumes they have taken drugs,” he told Metro.

    Despite Boduljak’s assurances that he didn’t use steroids, she forced him to go to the police station and give a urine test. In her report, the officer said he had “unusually large muscles, particularly large arm muscles, which are a sign of steroid use.”

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  19. on April 28, 2013 at 4:27 pm gig

    GBFM for the win!

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  20. on April 28, 2013 at 5:44 pm jake han

    Black knighting at my school (U of Arizona)!

    http://ktar.com/22/1629844/You-deserve-rape-sign-on-U-of-A-campus-catches-eyes

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    • on April 29, 2013 at 1:45 pm thwack

      Thanks Jake. I didn’t know there was a name for it.

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  21. on April 28, 2013 at 5:46 pm walawala

    I’m hearing this from a girl I gamed and was so attentive and then suddenly has gone cool:

    “i’m so busy with work/I have to work…”

    Any thoughts on how to handle this? My thought is to personally just disappear and not respond to any of her outreach for a while.

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 6:22 pm Patriarch

      There isn’t much more you can do if she’s giving you girlcode for “Ive found another dude that I like more than you but if you go away and don’t bother me I may message you when he inevitably leaves me.” You need to go nail something else. In her head any attempt to communicate with her after she has told you she is fucking someone else will appear “try hard” and will only further sink your ship. Leave her be. When he is done with her she will message you if you’ve been a good boy and left her alone and you can restart.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 4:13 am tilikum

        meh, i just chalk it up to bad behavior that will bubble up later and hit delete..

        pick another one off the tree.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 11:06 am Man Reader

        Dude I swear I’m not a total beta pussy but again this is where we disagree. I contend that it is extremely rare to find a 7 or above . There are simply not that many on the tree!!! This is in defense of one-itus again. Only 2 out of every 300 girls weigh less than 150 pounds. And there are plenty of decent guys as competition. That is why greater betas who won’t stoop below a 7 get one-itus on those once-every-eight-month occassions when we find ourselves in teh same place and time as a 7 and get to talk to her.

        And I’m no pussy. I do day approaches and street approaches! I walk down the street wearing a sharp suit and approch chicks….on the rare occasion I see any that are even worth approaching AND are not already walking at that very moment with a man.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 9:27 pm BuenaVista

        It doesn’t matter. The chick has moved on. When they move you delete all references and records. It doesn’t matter how infatuated he was, she is gone.

        I think she’ll be back too, but he should delete her address book record now. That way, when he gets the “Hey, what’s goin’ on?” text, because she wants someone to buy her a meal and drinks, he won’t know who it is and he can text back, “Who is this, pls?”

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 9:05 pm Merchant of Venice

      If she’s reaching out, terse text game is the answer. Go cold on her a bit – remember the 2:3 ratio.

      Last time this happened to me, I went terse – 1 or 2 words answers, maybe 3 if I was thinking it might lead to something that night. This was for 2 weeks.

      Finally, she called and left a message, sent me 2 texts. I was standing outside of a club waiting with a couple of female friends of mine and called her up. She could clearly hear girls talking and laughing in the background, and simply said, “Hey I was wondering if I could see you tonight.”

      You have this.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 6:33 pm walawala

        This is awesome.

        I’m doing this based on my own knowledge of game.
        She would normally text me 10 times a day and I would reply or sometimes proactively send something.

        Since this “i’m busy!!!!” meltdown, she sent me a sexy photo. I replie 12 hours later. “Vargas would be proud.” That’s it.

        Then she wrote saying she had reserved tickets for me for some up comign event we were planning to attend

        I reply ‘k’ and ‘thx’.

        Which brings up another important game element. YOu don’t have to explicitly say something. By NOT saying or doing something, the message becomes clear: “You behave, I respond….you’re a bitch…i disappear”.

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    • on April 29, 2013 at 6:30 pm anonYmous

      I haven’t found a way to get them back reliably. If I go cold they don’t reinitiate, I’ve tried saying lame, gay, bullshit and calling them a liar after they give me the busy line and it doesn’t seem to help.

      I have two thoughts about this, one, is that some women are so anti-relationship freedom warrior slut that anything I say or do that they might misinterperate as me wanting a relationship which I dont, then in their mind it gets blown out of proportion. My second thought is that as I get better at this stuff it will kinda take care of itself.

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  22. on April 28, 2013 at 6:19 pm Uncle Elmer

    Speaking of trolls, Amanda Marcotte understand what makes them tick :

    “A lot of trolls are aggrieved white men who, angry that their unearned privileges are under attack, are going to lash out at the people they see taking them away. They may not be able to restore themselves to the former glory of the Mad Men era, but making people feel bad will serve as their revenge.”

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/04/26/dean_saxton_says_women_deserve_rape_shows_why_we_shouldn_t_dismiss_bigots.html

    This proves my theory : feminists can’t get enough of “Mad Men”.

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 6:36 pm Patriarch

      It’s ok though. Consider this just a transitionary phase. Once liberalism brings the Western World to it’s logical conclusion, I.E. collapse, then the process will start all over again. It’s going to be tough to be a feminist in a world where paper money means nothing. Seeing the look on liberal white neutered lapdog boys baby faces will be in and of itself one reason to try to stay alive day to day.

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 10:38 pm Inane Rambler

      Amanjaw Marcuntte got eviscerated in the comments, it’s all cool.

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 11:00 pm Mark Minter

      Let me tell Ms Marcotte about the reality of the real men of the “Mad Men” era.

      1962, my father was 43 years old. He was sole support for a woman and 5 kids. 5 kids. He had grown up during the depression without a vagina, and there was no special student loan program for him, nor expectation he would be allowed to even finish high school.

      He was awoken at 5 in the morning to walk some miles to work at a chicken farm before school, and then compelled by the poverty of the times, to leave school at 16. He worked the shittiest of physical labor jobs until the war broke out and went int the military. Even the crappy pay of a private was a raise to what he had received before. And he was fed 3 times a day and had a place to live without the fear of worrying about tomorrow, for the first time in his life.

      But then he was sent to Europe and he sustained enough shelling in Europe and watched other men die horrible deaths, men blown to shit right beside him, the only difference between that guy and him was maybe the wind, to the point that on his deathbed in 2001, he told the preacher that was sent into to give last rites to “Fuck off. There is no fucking god”. This was on his deathbed he told the preacher to fuck off.

      After the war, he again struggled for work and drove a soda pop truck lifting heavy wooden cases with bottles. There was no GI Bill and there were millions of other men now searching for work.

      Men in that age, had no choice but to marry. Women held them hostage with access to sex. And after marriage, my mother commenced to kid after kid after kid on him. He had gone back into the military, surrendered his freedom, freedom to work where he chose, live where he chose, in exchange for a regular paycheck to feed and support her. She did not work after the first child was born.

      For all the crying and whining about women during that time, and how they lacked options, it was those men that were slaves and had no option. You think it was his idea to have 5 children and be trapped into a life he never chose for himself? He worked his ass off and my mother rode him unmercifully.

      His health was shit. His back was shot from riding around on those wooden benches in the backs of Deuce and A Half trucks in Europe on shit roads, being bounced a 1 and 1/2 in the air wearing full combat gear and landing on his spine to compress it over and over. He had numerous surgeries over the years and even 6 disks were fused. The stress of his life and the sort of food he had to buy to feed 5 children lead to cortisol and vascular issues.

      He had the same exact genetics as me. We look the same. And at 57 years of age, I look 5 years younger than he did. I have no, and I mean no, physical issues at all. I do not feel a day different than I did at 30 years of age. I am 20 pounds lighter. The only difference I can figure is that never had to live the life he had to live.

      And for the past 10 years, I have been fortunate to live without a shrew woman in my life and tons of health issues have been avoided. I had Erectile Dysfunction during the last few years when I was married.

      Now I don’t. And it is 10 years later. I am 10 years older, FiftyFuckingSeven. 57. And a few years ago it just went away. At 57. My doctor had said “Oh well, comes with age. Those little veins gets blocked up.”

      Bullshit, it comes with a wife and the stress she heaps on her husband. Today without that stress, with no change in diet, no amazing change in workouts, in supplements, and being 10 freaking years older, I get woodies in the morning until I piss. My dick is as long in erection as it was when I was 20. And to me, that is the “tell tale”, the bell weather indicator of a man’s status and health, his erectile functionality.

      I know, and I am certain that erectile dysfunction in men is caused by “status stress” and the slave role that married men are forced to play if they marry. There can be no other explanation for the cure of it in my life with the only major change is that I am not married and I do not work as hard as I did when I was married. I have neither boss nor bitch riding me.

      My mother died before he did. But when she died, she owned a house, cars, furniture, was insured up to the neck in case he died, she would have had a guaranteed income from funds that he had paid into during his working life, her medical care was taken of 100%. She wanted for nothing. Can Ms Marcotte say the same thing of the vast majority of women today, especially those “strong and independent women” that need no man?

      He lived 15 years longer than her. And he never had another woman after her death. My sisters would say “He just loved her so much”. Bullshit, he hated women and never wished to a slave to another as long as he lived.

      So if Ms Marcotte thinks I am ever going back to that Mad Men crap, to that slavery that men experienced, to being trapped into lives they did not want, she better think again.

      I am Mark Minter of the Manosphere and I am devoting the rest of my life to see that you men never never have to know the slavery that those Mad Men knew.

      I truly believe he gives you the knowledge and the tools to take what you wish from woman and avoid that slavery. And I believe he does men the greatest service possible, he gives them real freedom, real options, and extended life.

      So Ms Marcotte, fuck you. I don’t want to go back.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 10:17 am Man Reader

        Great comment but after feminism, today’s men remain slaves. On the subject of options: same as it ever was. Men MUST work; for women it’s an option. Now a good man like your dad can barely get any sex, however, because fake alpha cads have replaced true alpha with beta. Today’s beta was alpha in the WWII generation. Like my grandpa. I did everything right–as my square dad and grandpa did, but I’m fucked in my generation (age 38). So now I’m divorced but have my 2 kids (who I love) and I’m a slave and my ex wife has not worked since the 4th month of pregnancy with the first–that was in 2004. She and her loser mom enjoy my kids all day while I’m chained to the office chair from which I am typing this. And on top of it all, it is women who do the most complaining!!!! My ex used to say she was my slave because she had to (boo hoo hoo) empty the dishwasher. After I worked 11 hours all day!!!! Go on match.com. Every woman thinks it’s neat to say she’s “an independent woman.” LOLzlsolzol ALL men are independent; nobody will pay for us, ever, for just having a vagina. It goes without saying. Women in our generation are one thing and one thing only: PATHETIC.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 10:34 am Uncle Elmer

        I am not worthy.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 1:51 pm thwack

        Classic Minter, slash and burn, expect no quarter…

        *you’ve been warned*

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 10:04 pm Dan Fletcher

        Comments like his remind me of what a huge pussy I am.

        I bitch and moan about stuff not even 1% as bad.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 10:34 am Ovid

        I doff my hat to you, sir.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 7:58 pm Greg Eliot

        I went and donned one, just so I could doff it to him.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 11:54 am Revo Luzione

        Excellent comment, Mark, thanks for sharing some interesting details. I find these stories fascinating and enlightening. Men need to be having this conversation with family. We have lost our sense of history. How many of you guys had family that worked in a coal mine or other “men have options” type of situation–farm worker, slaughterhouse worker, just to feed the family?

        My family had a similar history–coal miners & soldiers. Interestingly, in my family there is also a strong history of men marrying much younger women. My great-grandfather was 55 when he married a 28 year old, my grandfather was 32 when he married an 18 year old. That grandfather, in his 70’s when I was a teen, was the only man in my life who gave me any “red pill” type of advice on women. I wish I had spoken with him much more about these things. He was a storyteller, but I wasn’t aware enough yet by half, to engage him in those conversations. He was more interested at that time in telling stories about fishing, hunting, or the war, but man I wish he would have talked a bit more about women, he was a true alpha.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 12:34 pm Man Reader

        yep. coal miners, farmers, factory workers…good men in the ohio/pennsylvania/west virginia area.

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 11:14 pm Libertardian

      I’m sure that very few people know better than her just what makes trolls tick.

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    • on April 29, 2013 at 8:04 am whorefinder

      That Manjaw isn’t a parody of a feminazi, but a real live feminazi leader, is all one needs to know about the feminazi movement.

      RAPE!

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    • on April 29, 2013 at 10:31 am Matthew King

      I’m in the middle of catching up with the new season of Mad Men, and it’s clear to me that Don Draper is the archetype CH aspires to promote — minus all the hidden weepy beta angst, of course, which can be easily ignored as the balancing dramatic fiction of the gay showrunner (Matthew Weiner) who feels obligated to show the purported downside of alpha. Don can’t just be happy for his extraordinary accomplishments and character, you see, he has to secretly hate himself too. The new moral calculus of Hollywood.

      What’s with Jon Hamm’s constant constipation face this season, though? Dial down the Emmy baiting Shatner act.

      Matt

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    • on April 29, 2013 at 12:06 pm Uncle Elmer

      Amanda, no beneficiary of white privilege herself, hits a raw nerve.

      So I made an insta-post out of it, complete with compelling graphic, and cordially invite all trolls to provide their inimitable commentary :

      http://www.the-spearhead.com/2013/04/29/troll-chum

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  23. on April 28, 2013 at 6:21 pm Fyooz

    when would an alpha use “I don’t normally do this, but . . .” ?
    ever?
    seems like a gold mine if it had its time and place

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 6:25 pm Patriarch

      “I don’t normally do this but if you really want it up the cornhole I suppose we can try it assuming you don’t tell your friends or they’ll be wanting it too. Anal sex is for faggots. Bend over, faggot.”

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  24. on April 28, 2013 at 6:54 pm feministx

    Not that this is the point of this post, but that comment was made in response to something I said about my boyfriend, so I feel compelled to defend his reputation (normally I do the opposite on this blog).

    “every sicilian or italian I’ve known has claimed their family has mob connections. just like every black guy is a producer and its every stripper’s first day. its all bullshit.”

    Just to set the record straight, please note the following:

    1. My boyfriend didn’t tell me about mob connections in order to puff himself up. It’s not part of his image, and it’s not something he would mention in the first conversation with you or the 47th conversation with you. I as someone who has had 100 thousand conversations with him know the mob thing.

    2. I made the comment about the mob connection thing, not because I care about mob connections but I was trying to convey the kind of machoness my boyfriend has. He isn’t really a macho guy. Matter of fact, I would call him effeminate, but he tells me his father was the archetype of a guido with a temper, and frankly sometimes it’s apparent that my boyfriend was raised by that type. He has a little brutish guido in him.

    3. He has mob connections.

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    • on April 29, 2013 at 10:06 am Jack

      While maybe loosely true, doesn’t mean the status it implies is deserved. You say mob connections, it sounds like he is getting greased by bookies and has italian guys ready to shoot up a street corner for his protection, when in reality his great uncle probably had coffee with a mob guy once and the mob wouldn’t lift a finger if they saw him getting his ass kicked on the street.

      If there was a true connection you’d vagify about it all over the page, but there’s not, so you keep it vague. “mob connections”.

      Its as true as a black guy whos played with a synthesizer a few times being a “producer”. But he aint Dr. Dre. And your boyfriend isn’t shooting the shit with Michael Corleone’s button men.

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    • on April 29, 2013 at 12:24 pm Matthew King

      You are a perfectly honest, lighter-than-air, blank-eyed specimen of a girl. No thoughts, no soul, just floating around without weight, purely passive, blissfully reactive to your environment. I call this type of woman a sylph.

      Your presence among the opposite heavies who populate this site is more instructive for us than you know. Mostly because you know nothing. Which should be taken as a compliment, despite your screenname. In the absence of better options it’s good for a girl to remain an unmoored vessel waiting to be filled up with manly substance.

      Not that you’re dumb, it’s just that you keep all your knowledge contingent upon the man directing you, like baggage ready to be abandoned at the drop of a smirk. You know the world through your man alone. That’s how it should be.

      Matt

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 4:03 pm feministx

        Can you please connect the specifics of what you are saying with actual concrete cues in my posts?

        Why do I strike you as more malleable than the “heavies” as you call them?

        Why do I strike you as someone who “knows nothing” as you call it?

        The post you have written to me reads like a horoscope. Compelling as though it is true, but then, maybe it’s one of those things every person feels is kind of true.

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      • on April 30, 2013 at 7:16 am Matthew King

        I can’t read the stars with any more specificity until you give me details of the abuse. I can assure you not “every person feels [it] is kind of true.”

        Tell me how he hurt you, baby doll.

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      • on April 30, 2013 at 9:11 am feministx

        The current one may have hurt me most by having no interest in hurting me at all.

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      • on April 30, 2013 at 11:03 am Matthew King

        Right. Pain is how you know you can feel. You are otherwise anhedonic. Numb. And you wonder why I call you sylph. Lighter than air, detached, free — until daddy pushes your face into the mattress.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 10:06 pm Dan Fletcher

        “You are a perfectly honest, lighter-than-air, blank-eyed specimen of a girl. No thoughts, no soul, just floating around without weight, purely passive, blissfully reactive to your environment. I call this type of woman a sylph.”

        +1

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  25. on April 28, 2013 at 7:45 pm James

    The southern Italians might not be bullshitting. According to hbdchick, they are an exception to the Hajnal Line. More inbreeding => fewer families => every family is connected to the Mob.

    http://hbdchick.wordpress.com/2012/01/16/behind-the-hajnal-line/

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  26. on April 28, 2013 at 7:46 pm James K

    I should have said, I’m a different James from the OP.

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  27. on April 28, 2013 at 7:58 pm Beefy Levinson

    Da GBFM changed my life after telling me what’s up with bernankified buttehxted dollarzzolzozolozolozol

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  28. on April 28, 2013 at 10:28 pm Sol Rosenberg

    GBFM is perhaps the greatest living poet-philosopher.

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    • on April 29, 2013 at 10:29 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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      you missppleed definitely!! lzozozlzozolzolzoz

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  29. on April 28, 2013 at 10:50 pm Serenety

    “I don’t normally do this.”

    Translation:- I’m not a slut and your not making me horny sluts only do this I want you to know that if my mouth and vagina somehow fall onto your dick it’s not because I’m a slut and I’m horny it’s because well it just happened…phew….can we now fuck

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  30. on April 28, 2013 at 11:10 pm Libertardian

    Speaking of hamster antics, I just stumbled across the following statement:

    “Love is omnipotent—it is the point of life. It is the solution to all problems, and it is peculiarly feminine. Men have to be taught how to love; women are born with the innate ability to love.”

    At first, this struck me as perhaps the biggest lie I had ever read. Then I realized that this statement makes perfect sense if you simply replace “Men” with “dark triad alpha males”. As has been said here before, betas are simply invisible (except when they annoyingly attempt to demonstrate that they DO know how to love and have to be ruthlessly slapped down). As a result, a statement like the above doesn’t refer to them by so much as a parenthetical phrase or footnote. Then betas read it with the same sad incomprehension as a steer looking at the guy with the sledgehammer.

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    • on April 28, 2013 at 11:30 pm Patriarch

      Yeah if you simply replace the word nice guy with “selfish asshole” and go through online profiles you will see what is going on.

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      • on April 28, 2013 at 11:36 pm Patriarch

        Other words to replace:
        Fun sexually devious
        Intelligent. Knows how to manipulate my limbic mind
        Charming. Will seduce me
        Down to earth. Other girls want him BAD
        loving. Someone I can love and he in turn will tolerate
        Respectful. Will keep my slutty nasty behavior hidden
        Honest. Will keep me in my place
        Loyal. Keep me so crazy after him I have to rationalize how he is being faithful to me to keep myself functioning.

        Women date up and men date down.

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  31. on April 29, 2013 at 12:38 am gunslingergregi

    patriarch on fire this thread never seen someone make Nicole stop posting he he he

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    • on April 29, 2013 at 7:17 am Patriarch

      She has a crush on me. She took my advice and is ignoring me in hopes I will come back to make amends. Classic female projection. That’s why all the online profiles seem bitchy. Like a guy who believes being feminine will wrsngle in the ladies, their profiles are full of masculinity. That or maybe she really does enjoy fishing and mudriding…but I highly doubt it. :barf:

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 5:35 pm Nicole

        No, it’s just that I came here for the truth, not to find cybersex.

        I’m a hands-on kind of gal.

        Offline, people see me usually as a “big mama” type. I can be a bitch when I need to, and kick ass when I need to, but well…I don’t normally beat a dude’s ass in a club when he and his friend are hitting a much smaller woman.

        Normally, I’m a cute, fluffy, bubbly lady who makes cupcakes, and my little bit of edge is a love of death and folk metal…a bit of technical doom here and there.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 8:13 pm gunslingergregi

        I need some cupcakes mailed then he he he

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      • on April 30, 2013 at 12:02 pm Nicole

        One of your women better bake you some cupcakes. I’m not going to let you use me for cupcakes and not put out. :-p

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      • on April 30, 2013 at 3:41 pm gunslingergregi

        lol I might be able to catch you he he he

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  32. on April 29, 2013 at 3:20 am ConnubialBliss

    You mean there’s actual wisdom in all that blather about bernakified fiat dollars that I need to study and decipher? Fuck. I wish somebody had told me that a long time ago.

    I’m going to be pissed if I go wade through that blather and find out that it really is all just nonsense, and the joke is on my dumb ass.

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    • on April 29, 2013 at 4:59 am Man Reader

      It’s funny to see all the dullards with IQs less than 90 and more people who are less than 23years old reveal themselves. These are the people don’t understand da GBFM. Kid you should not have to be told this information gradebooks for man is an easy read just read it and you’ll see that he is at the top of the Manister level thinking

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      • on April 30, 2013 at 2:15 am ConnubialBliss

        It’s interesting that I have revealed myself as a kid under 23 when I am in fact about to turn 41.

        It probably says something about how much farther I have to go down this road before I can turn my life around.

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  33. on April 29, 2013 at 3:55 am Scray

    FR —>

    Friday was a mind-bending experience. Hung out with Religious6.5, GoodlookingMcCoolGuy and a few of his friends. She holds a pretty ‘official’ position and travels a lot and visits our school sometimes. I’m starting to understand my ‘style.’ It literally is just ‘bull in a china shop, I do whatever the fuck I want.’ Anyway, what was cool is that over the course of the night I just kind of let loose with whatever was in my mind: ‘ya, we’re just waiting for the right time to orgy with you.’ ‘ya, good thing you drank that drink, cause in about 30 minutes we’re all going to be having a pretty good time.’ And this Mormon girl is playful right back with it. We all took pictures together and we’re talking and she’s like ‘ya, you’re really photogenic…I’m sure you already knew that.’ So….probably DTF.

    I think I learned a new lesson — seems like, if you can make a chick feel completely non-judged, they’ll show you a lot of themselves. Like, we went out partied, she was grinding on me…blah blah. But the image of her is that she’s just this super straight-laced hard-working evangelical. In fact, she’s just as much of a fucking degenerate slacker as I am lol.

    Saturday:

    I decide that I’m still on this ‘only open hot sets’ kick. So what I’m going to do is ‘small chunk’ everything. First, I will just work on maintaining my body language and my frame —- no matter what happens. The perfect opener for this is ‘Hey guys, sorry I’m late’ and just plow the fuck through.

    I do a warm-up set and just walk away in the middle of conversation (no it wasn’t going particularly well, and I wasn’t going to say in a 4, 4, 5 set).

    Next set, mixed set 7, 7.5, and suave-looking chode in a tie. I pump myself up by talking with all the chodes standing around and Nightly for a few seconds, then I approach, hands on hips, feet shoulder width apart, smirking

    Me: (forget the opener, say something else) Hey me and my friend were just having an argument —- would you sleep with Jesus? (I read this somewhere…just popped out)

    7.5 (looks at me, annoyed) He doesn’t exist. (backturn)

    Me: (NOPE. NOT TODAY. I reach out and grab her arm) Hey…don’t be fucking rude

    7.5: (taken aback, blinks) Well…I answered your question, I said he doesn’t exist

    Me: Stop being a bitch and just relax and be cool (turns to her friend) A-yi-yi, is she always like this?

    7: Like what? (blah blah blah blah…) My drink blah blah blah (the music’s loud)

    So, I crash and burn in this set…but, two things — I can see it, now. The little glimmers of ‘something,’ that are CAUSED by me first escalating/doing something else. Like, when I told her not to be rude, her vibe toward me changed.

    Two set — 7 and an 8. Just roll up, hands on hips, feet spaced shoulder width apart

    Me: Hey guys sorry I’m late
    (both look at me, I’m silent with a smirk. They look away and start laughing)
    8: Oh, yeah you didn’t miss much.
    Me: Ya, how is this place?
    8: It’s whatever, you know how it is.

    I run routines, do my thing…the kino is only very light, but I mean…I witness things happen before my very eyes that are kind of mind-blowing. Like, I touch them and do stuff, and it’s fine. They don’t mind. After about 10 minutes. I stop escalating…I’m outside my reality, I can’t believe that it’s possible that I -could- one day be THIS guy. So after another 10 minutes though, they leave.

    Whatever ‘normal’ sets I open because of logistics or because of my 3 second rule, I’m sure to ABC and get the number ASAP. Don’t want to waste much time with them.

    BTW, even the ACT of opening a hot girl seems like a DHV. I saw a 9 standing there with her arms folded — alone, on the sidewalk. Roll right up

    Me: Hey, sorry I’m late….(smirk, hands on hips, etc.)
    9: (takes one look….BACKTURNS…walks away)

    This is in front of a lot of people. Including a bunch of guys who just standing around admiring her. I look to the side, notice 5, 5.5, 5, and 4, and I laugh and shrug

    Me: Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t…it’s all good baby.
    5.5: (they all laugh) Ya, you should have offered to buy her a drink
    Me: Relax kid, this ain’t my first rodeo. (Does Mitt Romney look…she does it back…I’m socially hooked already)
    5.5: Oh, well all right then…blah blah blah blah blah.

    I stay for a few seconds, Nightly is all up on that set soon enough, but I roll the fuck out post haste.

    Next venue, I see three hot girls sitting down — 7.5, 8, 7. There’s another, similarly attractive 3 set standing up just to the right of them. I tell Nightly ‘go after the blondes, I’ll go after these brunettes, maybe we’ll be able to link them up.’ That’s the plan….

    Me: Hey guys, sorry I’m late….
    (I hold my frame and stare between them with a smirk — they have the same exact reaction, laughing)
    Me:….ya, like, you’re Amber, you’re Kristina, you’re Marietta…Amber (indicating the 8) you don’t remember those keg stands we did? You told me that joke about donkeys and monkeys……which was fuc-king hil-ar-i-oooouuuuuuuus
    (they’re still laughing and rolling their eyes)
    Me — blah blah blah she’s the crazy one, she’s the good one, she’s the mother hen, girl code, blah blah blah blah
    7.5 and 7 are more into it than 8 — 8. although sometimes I’m able to catch her, is still a little aloof. S’all good. 7 pulls out her phone while I’m talking. I take the time to just lean over her
    Me: What’s that? Is that your fucking phone? That’s dope….let’s take a look!
    (Dips to stare straight down at her phone, and she giggles like crazy and hits me on the shoulder)
    7: Don’t make fun of my phone!
    Me: Listen, let’s all relax…here, we’re just gonna…(I squeeze behind her and actually move her chair around — she’s giggling, her friends are both just staring wide-eyed….and then I sit down — however, I notice that the 8 sort of scoots a little away (we’re both on a bench)….I look over at her, noticing this shift, and then I bite the air. She blinks and looks straight ahead)
    Me: So how do you guys know one another…?
    8: School…
    Me: Oh yeah? College is fucking rad
    7.5: No, the one before that
    Me: (grin) Juvenile detention. Gotcha.
    (No one is amused…in my mind I’m just like ‘it’s funny because I SAID it’ and I just sit there, not gonna laugh at my own joke, not gonna say anything else about it either. 7.5 shakes her head)
    7.5: No…..High School
    Me: Oooooooooooooooooooooooh.
    Me: (blah blah blah blah blah cold read, blah blah blah blah…FINALLY….8 turns to look at me…I’ve been busting her balls about her watch v her friend’s watch blah blah blah)
    8: So are those guys over there your friends?
    (I glance and sure enough, there are two chodes who are just looking at the entire interaction)
    Me: ya, but they’re wasted. Listen, they give you any trouble…you just let me know…..
    8: (disbelieving look)…okay…
    Me: And I’ll hand ’em your purse straight away.
    8 (she smiles)
    8: So….what do you do?
    Me: I’m a manager at Mcdonald’s, and if you guys play your cards right (I think about a finger snap, but then I’m like fuck that. Just say it straight)..you’ll get some free hamburgers.
    8: Bullshit, you’re a fucking liar.
    Me: (blinks)
    8: It’s obvious that you’re quick, so….
    Me: (Does a black woman index finger circular gesture, faux indignation) YOU just got downgraded to fries.
    (All of them laugh, and she can’t control it either)
    8: (starting to warm up, she puts her head on her chin and is looking at me….yaaaaaa cooooooooool) So why us? Why’d you come over here and talk to us, out of all these people? (The way she says it, right after I’ve pumped the group’s state lets me know it’s a shit test….)
    Me: First chicks I saw, so….proximity?
    (this lights her up again, she even repeats it to 7.5, and they both giggle about it, yaaaaaa Mystery, yaaaaaaaaaaaa…I launch into digit ratio routine, and in the middle of it the 8 —they’re pretty impressed by it and the accompanying info — now she’s warm…I can feel it….)
    8: So you go to college? Are you a sociology major…like, what do you do for real?
    (Ya, here’s my chance to just totally jump into qualifying/comfort…here it is, a great opportunity, a great…….)
    Me: I already told you I worked at McDonald’s
    (8 rolls her eyes……..and ya well……………the set starts to go downhill from there; I’ve been neglecting the 7 for awhile, and she’s the mother hen, and I kind of lose them all bit by bit. But I force myself to stick it out to learn this goddamned stupid lesson.)

    Other interactions took place, but whatever. I mean, it seems like the issue is recognizing when to start moving into A3/C1 territory and getting more ‘real’ or ‘deep.’ It feels like the margin for error with hotter girls is just narrower. Maybe that’s just in my head. Anyone have any guesses or suggestions on how to best tell when to start ‘getting real’ in an interaction?

    —
    Sunday:

    I had completely forgotten about this 5’s number I got from a set a few weeks ago and texted. She texted me, and we were texting back and forth. She clearly is into me…meh, whatever. Can take or leave it. However, we were talking on the phone and she kind of got annoyed and was like ‘ya, well I mean, you’re witty and funny but you just come across like you have a young mindset….like a boy.’

    Me ‘o ya?’ (is this a shit test or what…or is she being real….idfk…)

    Her: Yeah, as a woman looking for a man….I’m just thinking ‘okay, is it just jokes and that’s it? Is there anything you take seriously?’

    Me: Not much. I think too many people take themselves too fucking seriously, and they’re stupid for it. No one cares about your fucking car or your house or your goddamned suit — you’re just gonna die anyway, fag. I care about adventure, I want to see all there is to see and explore as much as I can. So yeah, when it’s time to work I’ll fucking work, but when it’s time to play…eat shit if you want to stand around and jack off about your rolex or your job.

    She likes this extemp rant, I can tell. Now, if I knew nothing about game I would just be like ‘well shit, she doesn’t like me at all.’ Now, I think…’ya she likes me SO MUCH that she’s actually TELLING ME WHAT SHE NEEDS right now.’ Correct assumption — she had to go do something but she was like ‘ya, actually can I call you later.’ In my mind I’m like’ idfc,’ but I’m like ‘ya cool sure.’

    Annnnyways….I think that could be another use for lower value/attractiveness girls…they like you enough to just kind of……..guide you. Helpful to apply that knowledge to hotter girls? Seems like it.

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    • on April 29, 2013 at 12:30 pm Naz

      You’re doing great. Here is a thought. Can you move the interaction to comfort by yourself? What I mean is; rather than waiting on the other side to give you cues on when the convo should start getting real, you can initiate that youself. For example, once the 7.5, 8, and 7 set you opened warmed up you could have started into a story, question or any other thing which is real “more serious”. Now if you feel you moved into comfort too quick it’s easy to go back into the fun/attraction phase.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 3:10 pm Scray

        Yeah, I’ll try that next time I’m out. It’s tough…I mean, I’m starting to realize that — even with Nightly — so few guys honestly know what it’s like to be starting from a perceived value deficit, rather than just ‘equal value.’ Anything you get, you honestly earn.

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    • on April 29, 2013 at 4:41 pm FuriousFerret

      I think you should try to be more of real asshole to these women. Try to lean towards dominating them socially, less dancing monkey. All of your interactions seem like you a comedian performing for their amusement. Desperate for their laughs, accolades and attention. Just try to play it more aloof and cool, like you really could give two shits about who or what they are. Try to disqualify yourself a little more. Play it a little more straight.

      When in doubt, just view these club rats for what they are disposable cum rags. 🙂

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      • on April 30, 2013 at 7:38 pm Scray

        ‘Try to disqualify yourself a little more. Play it a little more straight.’

        For sure. I mean, like…if it takes me willpower to -not- do stupid cheesy finger guns after a joke, then ya, that’s a problem. This week when I go out, I’m just going to try to not tell any jokes at all, or like one or two at most, (for at least a few sets). I’ll see how that goes. Thanks for the tip!

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    • on May 1, 2013 at 2:32 am YaReallyMIA

      Breakdown for this one, I’m still gone right now but I always do a quick search for your FRs:

      “I’m starting to understand my ‘style.’ It literally is just ‘bull in a china shop”

      Keep exploring that, it’s my style too. My friends with blatant theoretical high-value/alpha characteristics (looks, height, $, etc.) can play the Nice Guy gentleman. Guys like us competing with them have to DHV more in-her-face because we need to demonstrate internal high-value/alpha characteristics.

      “she’s like ‘ya, you’re really photogenic…I’m sure you already knew that.’ So….probably DTF.”

      Yep.

      “if you can make a chick feel completely non-judged, they’ll show you a lot of themselves.”

      Yep.

      “But the image of her is that she’s just this super straight-laced hard-working evangelical. In fact, she’s just as much of a fucking degenerate slacker as I am lol.”

      Thus the Madonna/whore fallacy. All it takes is the right set of circumstances to bring a girl’s real side out. I’ve done fucked up things with girls who’s friends/family/etc. would have no idea she was capable of that. Things she would never do with any other guy. The Madonna/whore guys think 1) certain girls are incapable of certain acts, and 2) a girl who would do an act with one guy would do it with any guy. It’s all bullshit social conditioning and a refusal to fully swallow the Red Pill.

      “I decide that I’m still on this ‘only open hot sets’ kick.”

      Good. I’m not blowing smoke up your ass when I say that’s your market. Your “deficit” actually gains you extra points approaching these girls. You’re going to get blown out more at the start than a tall guy with average girls would, but it’s going to be worth building these reference experiences down the road.

      “So what I’m going to do is ‘small chunk’ everything.”

      Yep. This is the way to do it. It makes things less daunting too. “Who cares if I get blown out, all I cared about was that my body language was solid and it was! Go me!”

      “The perfect opener for this is ‘Hey guys, sorry I’m late’ and just plow the fuck through.”

      I’m stealing this lol

      “Me: (NOPE. NOT TODAY. I reach out and grab her arm) Hey…don’t be fucking rude”

      Good, as long as you have a smile on your face like “this girl is being silly, no one turns their back on me”

      “7.5: (taken aback, blinks) Well…I answered your question, I said he doesn’t exist”

      Change gears here. You’ve basically interrupted her “routine” (“ignore guy, he goes awa–oh wait, what? we’re still in a conversation?? he seems sure of himself but what do I do now?”) so you have to give her something new to jump to. In the old days we called this Routine Stacking, you just plow until something hits. So here you could cold-read or something.

      Prob is you didn’t give them a new branch to jump to, so it like, flounders:

      “Me: Stop being a bitch and just relax and be cool (turns to her friend) A-yi-yi, is she always like this?”

      Not sure how to explain this. It’s kind of like the 90/10 rule. You’ve gone into 50/50 mode, but she isn’t attracted enough to contribute yet so it’s like saying “You’re beautiful” and her going “…ummm thanks!” “…you’re really beautiful!” “…okayyyy…?” Like, she’s not going to fill in the conversation for you yet, esp since she doesn’t think she’s being a bitch.

      So there was a slight window here, I don’t know if you could’ve turned things around but it’s possible because of:

      “The little glimmers of ‘something,’ that are CAUSED by me first escalating/doing something else.”

      This. Who’s setting the pace/frame at first with the Jesus Q? You. Then she takes it by turning her back. Then you took it back by demanding she stops being rude. Then you let it flounder and let them have the frame, but they didn’t want it, and it dies. Know what I mean?

      It’s like sending a txt without feeding her something to respond to. “You’re from New York? That’s cool.” will probably get you “thanks.” whereas “You’re from New York? You must’ve moved way out here to escape the law.” will force her to give you something more you can work with. 90/10 rule.

      “After about 10 minutes. I stop escalating…I’m outside my reality, I can’t believe that it’s possible that I -could- one day be THIS guy.”

      lol. The shit you’ll be doing in a year will make you laugh at this comment. 😉

      “even the ACT of opening a hot girl seems like a DHV.”

      Yep. If you succeed, you get a hottie. If you get shot down, guys give you props for having the balls to try (VS an ugly girl shooting you down where they’ll laugh at you) and girls will think “wow a guy who had the balls to approach THAT girl?? I want him!!” (VS an ugly girl shooting you down where they’ll go “wow he can’t even get that ugly girl what a loser”).

      “Me: Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t…it’s all good baby.”

      Perfect frame. It’s all a joke to you.

      “7.5 and 7 are more into it than 8 — 8. although sometimes I’m able to catch her, is still a little aloof.”

      Bill Gates finding $10,000 on the ground analogy. You would shit a brick and dance down the street, Bill Gates would go “oh, cool!” and be happy but not as outwardly excited about it. Plus on top of that, hotter girls have to shit-test more because they need guys who can handle all the shit that comes with dating a hot girl…so they’ll test you a lot more.

      “8: So are those guys over there your friends?”

      Shit-test. If you just say “Yep.” she’ll either burn you with “Maybe you should go hang out with them instead. :)” or she’ll burn you with “Your buddy is cuuuute!” and try to indicate she’s not interested in you and piss you off and make you go away. Depending on the girl’s personality some of them will literally TRY to make guys get pissed off and cry and be butt-hurt, to weed out lame guys, and they’ll take pride in it…but guess how attracted they’ll be to a guy who passes all their tests lol

      “(I glance and sure enough, there are two chodes who are just looking at the entire interaction)”

      Of course they are, because they don’t have the balls to do what you’re doing.

      “Me: ya, but they’re wasted. Listen, they give you any trouble…you just let me know…”

      Good. You avert her burning you because you went “Ya…” but then followed up with some good/funny shit. So you’re not giving her a chance to take the frame like you would be if you just said “Ya.”.

      “8: (disbelieving look)…okay…”

      She doesn’t really know what to do/say because you didn’t fall into the shit-test she set.

      “Me: And I’ll hand ‘em your purse straight away.”

      Perfect. If you had just stopped talking there, it would’ve been like the floundering 90/10 thing up above where things died because you didn’t lead. But here you’re interrupting her “routine” and then leading her into somewhere off it, confidently and unapologetically. Another guy might’ve seen her disbelieving look and qualified themselves with “You don’t believe me?? No seriously I swear!!” gay shit.

      So basically you passed her shit-test. The result, as always?:

      “8 (she smiles)
      8: So….what do you do?”

      IOI. But she’s hot, so you don’t need to take the bait right away. Keep demonstrating value and your personality, which you do.

      “8: Bullshit, you’re a fucking liar.”

      She loves it. And an AFC/noob would apologize or qualify themselves here, probably thinking she’s actually mad and that she’s too pretty to be an asshole to.

      “Me: (blinks)”

      Holding your frame.

      “8: It’s obvious that you’re quick, so…”

      Huge IOI from a hot girl. You’ll find average/ugly girls don’t compliment your wit/intelligence/etc. Because those girls are socially retarded themselves or drunk or don’t have to weed out as many guys to find a quality guy because they’ll accept shittier guys…so they don’t develop an appreciation for wit.

      Whereas in the world of a hot girl, every guy sounds like “uhhh soo ummm you like stuff? cool I like stuff too! stuff is cool!! so uhhh…can I have your number?” And they just get used to running circles around guys and being disappointed that guys are playing “catch-up” to them all the time.

      So when they meet a guy who has THEM playing catch-up to their wit, they genuinely express IOIs about that feature, because it’s something rare and attractive in their world. This is why rich Hollywood 10s aren’t always banging 6-pack rich guys…often they’re with weird artsy dudes or scumbags or even ugly guys, because they’re looking at a different set of characteristics than the average girls. They’re surrounded by rich good-looking guys, but most of those guys are blue pill guys, so they’re looking through the riff-raff to find the guy who can dominate their world.

      “Me: (Does a black woman index finger circular gesture, faux indignation) YOU just got downgraded to fries.”

      Beautiful lol. From here she’ll be attracted. You’re basically steam-rolling over her frame and forcing her to play catch-up. Most guys would wait to hear what she said after “so…” and hope it was approval.

      “(All of them laugh, and she can’t control it either)”

      She’s legit attracted here.

      “(The way she says it, right after I’ve pumped the group’s state lets me know it’s a shit test….)”

      Yep. She’s trying to get you into the chasing-her frame still. Again, she’s a hot girl and that’s just what they do. They have to keep testing testing testing to see if you’re legit.

      “Me: First chicks I saw, so….proximity?”

      Old-school but solid. She hasn’t earned you showering her with compliments yet and this is congruent to your indirect approach. Guys will say “Dude, this is the chance to go direct!!” and you CAN do that, but you’d be taking congruency risks that aren’t necessary by switching modes. However, for the sake of learning, if you wanted to switch to direct (from your indirect that you’ve been running here), two ways you could do it are:

      1) “You’re gorgeous, and this was all a ruse to come over and hit on you.” (unapologetic SOI, but you’d have to follow this up with some GOOD shit, 90/10 style, not just let her fill in the silence after that)

      2) “You’re gorgeous, and I wanted to come see if you were fun…but it turns out I can barely stand you so now I’m just resting my feet. ;)” (neg/tease, which should get you an “asshole!! :D” punch on the arm)

      But like I say, that’s fucking around with incongruency when you don’t need to in this situ. Her goal is to get you to be incongruent so she can write you off…so she keeps trying to get you to admit you’re seeking her validation (calling you a liar about McDs to see if you’ll backtrack, dangling a validation string about your quickness to see if you’ll bite, asking why you approached them to see if you’ll admit to hitting on her, etc.).

      “in the middle of it the 8 —they’re pretty impressed by it and the accompanying info — now she’s warm…I can feel it….”

      Yep. Legit attraction.

      “8: So you go to college? Are you a sociology major…like, what do you do for real?”

      Real IOIs here.

      “Me: I already told you I worked at McDonald’s”

      *facepalm* lol.

      It’s alright, we all did this. 🙂

      “8 rolls her eyes”

      Yep. You rejected her when she “threw herself at you” by letting down her guard to show legit IOIs basically.

      “I mean, it seems like the issue is recognizing when to start moving into A3/C1 territory and getting more ‘real’ or ‘deep.’ It feels like the margin for error with hotter girls is just narrower.”

      Yep. Hotter girls, or girls who see themselves as high-value, will 180 on you for the smallest mistake. That’s why the RooshV crowd can’t hack North America. The girls see themselves as high-value, and the guys have weak/boring game that isn’t built to handle shit-tests, so the guys can’t get through the narrow window. In EE the girls give them a bigger window for error, so they can make it through. (insert irrellvant whining from those guys about “well NA girls aren’t WORTH handling those shit-tests and blah blah blah” here lol)

      “Anyone have any guesses or suggestions on how to best tell when to start ‘getting real’ in an interaction?”

      Look for her qualifying herself and/or chasing you. This’ll be subtle in hot girls, and it’s a little more than an IOI. It’s more about her “exposing herself” or “throwing herself out there” or “making herself vulnerable”.

      The key that goes hand-in-hand with that is “did I EARN this interest?”. That’s where experience and understanding the game comes in. A hooker will go up to the ugliest guy in the room and ask his name, it’s all fake because he didn’t earn it. But a girl who you’ve pushed through some emotions and ran solid game on asking your name, that’s legit.

      Some examples:

      Her: “What do you do?” (setting a hoop for you to qualify yourself with)
      AFC: “I’m an investment banker.” (qualifying yourself by actually answering)
      Her: “oh…” (bored)
      AFC: “…” (no game)
      Her: “So ummm what’s your name?” (no attraction, he didn’t earn this, she’s just filling silence)

      Her: “What do you do?” (hoop)
      AFC: “I work at McDonald’s.” (shitting on hoop)
      Her: “You’re a liar!!” (shit-test)
      AFC: “No, I wouldn’t lie to a girl like you!” or “You got me, I’m really an investment banker” (backtracking, failing shit-test, seeking approval)
      Her: “Wow, that’s SO interesting. You’re so fascinating. What’s your name?” (no attraction, she’s just shit-testing)

      Her: “What do you do?” (hoop)
      PUA: “I work at McDonald’s.” (pass)
      Her: “You’re a liar!!” (shit-test)
      PUA: “No fries for you!” (congruent and passing shit-test)
      Her: “:O OMG…I can’t believe you said that.” (shit-test)
      PUA: “Get used to it, so many things about me are unbelievable.” (congruent/unapologetic and passing shit-test)
      Her: “Oh reall–” (shit-test attempt)
      PUA: “Like how small my penis is. :(” (shitting on her shit-test attempt)
      Her: “:O” (fried circuits)
      PUA: “It’s like a wet baby carrot.” (congruent/unapologetic and ahead of her, she has to catch-up, like the “No fries for you!!” bit)
      Her: “lololol omg what’s your name??” (legit IOI, exposing herself, time for comfort, because I earned this reaction)

      That’s working off her actions, but you can take the lead yourself if you feel you’re in A3 and you can start to qualify her…So say we take it from here in that last interaction and I want to know where I’m at:

      Her: “:O OMG…I can’t believe you said that.”
      PUA: “Could you ever love a fry chef? You’re hot, but hot girls are usually shallow. You’re not shallow are you?”

      This can branch into two responses:

      1) Her: “oh ya I’m totally shallow.” (not qualifying herself, spike her temperature more then try to get her to qualify again)

      or 2) Her: “noooo I’m not shallow!! I’m so nice!!” (her qualifying herself, now I know I can transition into Comfort…if I get the 1st response, I keep gaming and returning to qualifying until she finally qualifies herself, then I go into Comfort)

      This is why we had those old-school “I love a girl who can cook, can you cook?” routines. Their purpose was to see if the girl would say she can cook (if she’s attracted but can’t cook she’ll lie that she can cook or she’ll apologize that she can’t cook and hope you forgive it) and we’d know we can start transitioning, or if she would say she can’t cook (if she’s not attracted but can cook she’ll play it down or lie that she can’t cook).

      This is all a really subtle chess game and you’ll fuck it up a TON until you get it right. And when you get it right, you’ll run into an some smokin’ hot 10 who loves you way faster than you’re used to and you’ll fuck THAT up. etc. etc. lol

      So pay attention for “did I earn this, have I logically done attractive things in front of or to her?” and “is what she’s doing/saying showing some vulnerability in her iron bitch-shield?” and try throwing out a few “can I get her to qualify herself to me?” bits.

      “she kind of got annoyed and was like ‘ya, well I mean, you’re witty and funny but you just come across like you have a young mindset….like a boy.’”

      Shit-test, when you first meet her you would laugh and shit on this, but because you have more attraction built up (she txted you weeks later with no real interest on your end), you want to dig a bit and let her express herself…to go to the extreme, imagine “I hate when you do that” on the first meet VS two years into a relationship. One’s a shit-test, the other is a concern…if you aren’t sure which it is, just be silent and let her keep talking till you can tell:

      “Her: Yeah, as a woman looking for a man….I’m just thinking ‘okay, is it just jokes and that’s it? Is there anything you take seriously?’”

      Now you know it’s her venting and giving you her Blueprint of what she needs you to be/do/say to get in her pants. She’s attracted and frustrated and basically needs some Comfort.

      “Me: Not much. I think too many people take themselves too fucking seriously, and they’re stupid for it.”

      Really good rant. I use a similar one when girls test me on sex, about how embarrassed everyone is about sex and how life is short and I just do what feels right etc. etc.

      “’ya she likes me SO MUCH that she’s actually TELLING ME WHAT SHE NEEDS right now.’”

      Yep. 100% dead on. This is basically LMR but before the bedroom and before you escalate lol…she’s basically thinking “I WANT to have sex with him, but I NEED him to flip this switch in my mind before I can do it.”

      Ironically, did you notice that this is actually the exact same thing you ran into with the HB8 above when you went back to the McDonald’s thing? The HB8 was telling you “I need you to be real and tell me about yourself” but a lot more subtly, and you did the equivalent of responding to this HB5 with a cocky/funny joke, so the HB8 rolled her eyes and shut down, just like the HB5 would have if you had responded with a joke.

      “Helpful to apply that knowledge to hotter girls? Seems like it.”

      Yep. Like I say, if you ignore their hotness and their actual words and look purely at their intent, they’re both doing the exact same thing: showing vulnerability/interest, asking you to return that, and with the HB8 you snubbed it (got stuck in A3, killed the seduction) but with the HB5 you returned it (entered Comfort, progressed the seduction).

      Like, this is all very very logical when you understand the dynamics. Crazy hey? 🙂

      @Naz
      “Can you move the interaction to comfort by yourself? What I mean is; rather than waiting on the other side to give you cues on when the convo should start getting real, you can initiate that youself.”

      Right, exactly. This is what I’m describing up above with qualifying them. You can do it with other methods too, like story-telling to see how intently she listens, leaving un-finished conversation tangents in the air to see if they pick them up again, “forgetting” to explain a cold-read until she reminds you, back-turning to see if she tries to get your attention again, role-playing to see if she plays along, etc.

      I like qualifying them because for my style of “I’m jaded and hard to impress because I’ve been with so many women and am so much more sexually experienced than everyone around me” game, qualifying them is efficient and congruent because my value is *IN* my sexual vibe. Like my asking “Where are you from?” isn’t as congruent to my sexual vibe as “Your friend is hot, you two make out when you drink, don’t you.”.

      But for someone who runs more indirect or gentlemanly game or who’s value is more based on their social status, power, captivating a group, etc., stuff like leaving un-finished conversation tangents might be better for them.

      @Scray
      “I’m starting to realize that — even with Nightly — so few guys honestly know what it’s like to be starting from a perceived value deficit, rather than just ‘equal value.’ Anything you get, you honestly earn.”

      lol ya. I only understand it because while physically I’m average looking, I started out from such a massively socially crippled mentality that I was starting from a huge deficit, ESPECIALLY in the bar scene where most people are social and have been social since they were old enough to drink…I was years behind them all and had to claw my way up for a couple years just to become “normal” lol

      I also party with a huuuuge variety of people from all types of backgrounds, looks, careers, status, locations, etc. so I’ve met a few guys who have massive deficits where other people would be like “That guy’s 5’2″ AND ugly?? No way he can get girls!” or “That guy is brown and he’s in a hick town? No WAY he can get white girls!” etc. and I’ve seen the reverse of “that guy has SO many advantages and he STILL can’t get pussy?! WTF that’s ridiculous, I WISH I had his advantages I would destroy this shit!!”

      Don’t worry though, waaaaaayyyyyyy down the road you’ll end up in “unconscious competance” and you’ll find that even YOU don’t see yourself as having deficits. And girls, Naturals, etc. won’t see you as having them either. That sounds like smoke up your ass and it’s not going to happen anytime soon, but it’s there in your future years from now if you keep at this. 🙂

      @FuriousFerret
      “I think you should try to be more of real asshole to these women. Try to lean towards dominating them socially, less dancing monkey. ”

      This part I agree with, but it’ll come with time so don’t stress it too much yet. You’re already learning little bits and pieces of it like grabbing her arm to turn her around etc. The key is that you can’t force this, it has to be legit. If you just tried “the arm grab turn around maneuver” it would bomb, but it worked because you had 100% intent behind it. As you gain more experience talking with girls you’ll legit start to care less about offending them, and you’ll develop stricter standards of what behavior you accept from them, and you’ll be less afraid to express yourself, and you’ll become more “assertive” (VS asshole lol) which will result in you Naturally doing stuff like “Hey, don’t be rude, woman.” with full intent because it legitimately crosses lines of acceptable behavior in your mind.

      “Just try to play it more aloof and cool”

      Aloof/cool only works when the girl sees you as high-value already. As a short guy who’s still new to this stuff, Scray doesn’t spark enough attraction on first sight/approach to play aloof/cool yet.

      “When in doubt, just view these club rats for what they are disposable cum rags. :D”

      ehhh…there’s a lot of cool chicks out there.

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      • on May 1, 2013 at 9:59 am Newly Aloof

        I’d miss these reports quite a bit, but man, you should take these offline and compile them into a book. I’d pay a few bucks for it – nothing wrong with passive income YA and Scray. (the Her: You: Her: You: example YA interactions being my favorite aspect)

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      • on May 1, 2013 at 2:09 pm Scray

        ‘Aloof/cool only works when the girl sees you as high-value already’

        This! I mean, I have a vision of how I want to be on approach now — just like, a DHV blitzkrieg. That’s going to involve being high-energy, extremely self-amusing, etc. I can’t get away with the whole Don Draper style.

        Like, the best moments in this are where it’s like ‘why do I have to do X, him or him don’t have to do X….it’s not fair’ and I just remember the Tyler ‘BECAUSE YOU SUCK SHIT, THAT’S WHY. YOU SUCK SHIT AND YOU HAVE TO.’ So…then I’ll go try whatever. It really does help to appreciate whatever little things you get. Like, there’s a girl (like a 7) that runs in high-value social circles that I run into sometimes.

        Me: Ya, fell in love with this girl in Jamaica. I hate when I do that
        Her: Oh yeah, why?
        Me: Because I just lie a lot. I promised that I’d buy her America. You know, shit like that.
        Her: (she snickers) That could be a problem.
        Me: Oh hey, that’s a nice ring you got on your finger. There’s a 24k diamond ring at Mary Kay on display right now. If you go there and drop my name, it’s yours. (I say this in a ‘hey guuuuurl’ tone)
        Her: (she giggles loudly — it’s the right kind of giggle. I say a lot of shit to a lot of diff people now, and I can recognize the ‘hahaha that’s funny LITTLE BROTHER’ laugh vs. the ‘hahahaha….stooooop it’ laugh)

        So I just constantly wonder, why do things like the above…work? How can I turn things like the above into a deeper connection?

        Here’s another dynamic I’ve noticed — all my social circles are filled with high value people. I don’t hang out with any ‘losers.’ What I read on a lot of PUA sites is shit like ‘ya your friends all probably suck’ or whatever. But that isn’t the case with me. Most of my guys friends slay poon. Like….how can I be so low-value to girls but run in high value circles?

        Last, hanging out with high value guys does put you on the radar of high value girls.
        Ex: Talking with Natural friend blah blah blah. Then Natural friend talks to 8.5 girl for a bit. I don’t say anything, I just talk to someone else. (Social circle shit…I don’t want to fuck up with an 8.5, I’ll wait) Then she’s like
        ‘ya, that’s right Scriy’ (purposefully mispronouncing my name)
        ‘…oooooooooh….’
        ‘that’s right, I’m taking it to the next level…’
        (short circuits, why is this hot girl talking to me all of a sudden…just remain silent)

        btw, Nightly pussed out of opening those hot blondes and opened some uggos instead.

        Ya, see, I’m just noticing so many things and trying to figure out what they all mean lol. Can’t wait for school to be over so that I can just start hammering this shit out 4-7 nights a week.

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      • on May 1, 2013 at 5:30 pm YaReallyMIA

        “So I just constantly wonder, why do things like the above…work?”

        Self amusement. What you feel, she feels. If you think you’re funny and you’re coming from a place where you fully believe that what you’re saying/doing has value, she’ll feel that too. She’s looking at your sub-communications to determine how to feel about what you’re saying/doing. This is why if you approach half-assed, you’ll bomb, or if you approach with “gimmicky” routines, she’ll sniff out the incongruence and fail you. But when you’re just fucking around 100% outcome independent, it says you’re not trying to impress her which implies you don’t need to fuck her which implies that you have other girls you can fuck which implies that other girls like you which makes her like you because other girls like you. Big self-feeding DHV loop, instigated by your amusing yourself instead of trying to impress her.

        “How can I turn things like the above into a deeper connection?”

        You have to push it and lead, she won’t do it for you, and part of what builds the attraction is your willingness to risk rejection…even if you get shot down, as long as you play it off in a cool/casual non-butthurt way, you gain some attraction. This is why we can get rejected for the kiss a few times but she still sticks around and on the next time she’s into the makeout…each rejection you handle unphased builds toward the future success. But like I say, you have to be the one leading the interaction toward that.

        So:

        “Me: Because I just lie a lot. I promised that I’d buy her America. You know, shit like that.”
        “Her: (she snickers) That could be a problem.”
        “Me: Oh hey, that’s a nice ring you got on your finger. There’s a 24k diamond ring at Mary Kay on display right now. If you go there and drop my name, it’s yours.”
        “Her: (she giggles loudly)”

        I would do something like:

        Me: That’s not a wedding ring is it? Are you MARRIED?? Why do you flirt with me so much when you already have a man at home taking care of your eight children, you whore!
        Her: OMG no it’s my grandmother’s ring she–
        Me: I don’t think your grandmother would approve of your whoring ways either, young lady. Now would you quit staring at me with those man-eating eyes? I’m not a piece of meat. I have thoughts and feelings, you know. Why can’t you love me for who I am on the inside instead of all my outside beauty?”
        Her: (should pretty much have her circuits fried and just be giggling and going “OMG” here)
        Me: (grab her around the hips and pull her in, laser eyes up close) It’s okay, I forgive you. We can’t help all this chemistry between us.

        At that point I’d be doing some triangular gazing (eyes down to lips, back up to eyes, google for details) and scanning for how attracted she is and whether I can go for the makeout or not.

        All I’m doing up there is doing some push/pull, roleplaying, pushing her through an emotional rollercoaster (“you whore!” “quit staring at me!” “it’s okay, I forgive you” etc.), implying we have chemistry and assuming attraction, etc. You have a spark of attraction at her giggling about the 24k ring, you can tell by how she giggles…so that’s the point where a PUA goes “alright there’s a spark here, now I’ll start fanning it into a flame, and then a bush-fire”, while a normal guy goes “it seems like she might like me but wtf do I do with that knowledge?” and the spark dies out.

        Keep in mind she might giggle and go “OMG you’re crazy!!” and squirm away when I’m talking about our chemistry, especially depending on the environment and isolation and all that shit…but that’s fine, I just laugh it off with a wink and walk away and I know she’ll be thinking about me in a positive/attracted light from then on because I made my “Man to Woman” intent known and handled the rejection (which in my mind is more handling her silly girl shyness and not anything to do with me or my attractiveness) smoothly and without seeming butt-hurt. So the next time she allows herself to be isolated with me, she knows exactly what my intent is and that’s basically her giving me permission to try again and she’ll probably be into it if I’ve handled logistics, isolation, ASD, LMR, etc. properly.

        Think of it like if you knew a guy was going to stab you the second you were alone together, would you EVER be alone with that guy? Fuck no. Even if you were in the same social circle, you’d make sure you were never alone with them. Now say you knew he was going to give you a million dollars when you’re alone but everyone would judge you for taking the million? You would sub-consciously foster a situation where you two “end up” alone together.

        “all my social circles are filled with high value people. I don’t hang out with any ‘losers.’”

        Good, you’re lucky, you’re starting at an advantage. There are drawbacks to it (having to compete with them more, Naturals etc can be a handful to be friends with, esp when you’re advancing up in the ranks of the group), but the benefits outweigh them. A lot of PUAs spend the first couple years just making higher-value social circles so they can start where you’re starting from.

        “how can I be so low-value to girls but run in high value circles?”

        ’cause girls don’t give a shit whether you’re 6’4″, have 6-pack abs, have a million dollars, have a nice condo, have a good career, have the coolest friends in the world, etc. All that gets their vaginas flipping out is whether you know how to handle women.

        Your high-value circles also love having you because you make them look better. Imagine how boss a PUA instructor looks when he’s running a bootcamp where he’s spent the day with guys hanging on his every word and then he’s in the club ordering them around and they’re looking at him like he’s the coolest guy in the world to them…that’s been you, sub-consciously in your body-language etc., till you started getting into this. It’s not a malicious thing, they’re not consciously calculating “having Scray follow me around all night and be impressed when I hit on girls will make me look more attractive to girls”, it’s just social dynamics. Every group has some lower status guys in it…as long as you’re not a threat, you’re welcome to stay in the group.

        That’s why I say you might get push-back from them when you try to rise up in the ranks. A lot of Naturals are selfish and want to stay top-dog, and won’t like you leaving your low-status role…same time, some of them will support and encourage you. Those guys are your real friends.

        “hanging out with high value guys does put you on the radar of high value girls.”

        Yep. But they won’t fuck you unless you have game. Witness Neil Strauss hanging around rock/porn-stars but not being able to get laid. VS Brandon Novak who hangs with Bam Margera and basically fucks anything that comes near Bam:

        It’s the same with money, looks, career, etc. They’ll get a girl to notice you exist, and a lot of guys think that’s all it takes and then sex magically happens, but the reality is there are a million places for the guy to fuck up along the way to sex and most of these guys DO fuck it up. Or don’t push it as fast/efficient as they could.

        “btw, Nightly pussed out of opening those hot blondes and opened some uggos instead.”

        lol hey at least he’s opening SOMETHING…try heading out with a guy who won’t open ANYTHING, it’s brutal.

        “Ya, see, I’m just noticing so many things and trying to figure out what they all mean lol.”

        It’ll all click together in time. You’ve got a box of puzzle pieces you’ve dumped onto the table and keep finding new ones…down the road it’ll all click in your head when the concepts sink into your sub-conscious and you gain enough reference experience to really understand them. The thing to keep in mind is that this all DOES click together in the end, every concept in game interconnects with a bunch of other concepts, and in the end you get a logical consistent roadmap for how social dynamics work and how to consistently build attraction and seduce women and lead your social circles etc.

        It’s like the dude in Rounders says: “Why does this still seem like gambling to you? Why do you think the same five guys make it to the final table at the World Series of Poker every single year? What are they, the luckiest guys in Las Vegas? It’s a skill game.”

        Keep it up! 🙂

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      • on May 1, 2013 at 5:44 pm Scray

        ‘That’s why I say you might get push-back from them when you try to rise up in the ranks’

        Ya, everything you said is correct. But, the good news is that I -am- starting to build an identity. In the original circle I’ve kind of become the ‘space cadet’ guy who does his own thing, in the newest circle I’ve become the ‘clown’ guy who doesn’t take anything seriously, to another circle i’m just the guy who ‘flirts a lot.’

        But, while it’s challenging, I kind of enjoy working to force an identity change down people’s throats. The victories are all small, but they’re there.

        What do you think the biggest keys are to slowly changing your identity over time? Just doing what the fuck you feel like and holding your frame when a) no one responds to it or b) everyone applies social pressure?

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 3:18 am YaReallyMIA

        “the good news is that I -am- starting to build an identity.”

        🙂 Good to hear, and good to hear that you can tell this is happening. I know the concept of “what is my identity?” is kind of weird at first because we’re brought up to not believe we HAVE an identity…we’re conditioned by society to fit ourselves into the same “be polite to women, accept what society allows you to have, and settle into a mediocre life until you die” identity. So the notion that you can be someone else is like, wait, what? I’m ALLOWED to state my opinion? And to call people out when they do something I don’t approve of? Even if it hurts their feelings?? The world won’t end if someone doesn’t like me?! That’s OKAY?? lol

        But identity isn’t something you can just snap into overnight, it’s something you forge out of reference experience. That’s why guys who go through, say, prison or war, have a strong identity…they forged that through life experience. Whereas some generic silicon valley office beta has no identity, he hasn’t been challenged in life or challenged himself to figure that stuff out. That’s why you HAVE to go out and get field experience…you can’t arm-chair jockey your way into an identity, you know? At least not an identity beyond “arm-chair jockey” (and you can build a VERY strong identity around that as some posters here demonstrate regularly lol it just doesn’t translate into being attractive/charismatic in real life)

        “What do you think the biggest keys are to slowly changing your identity over time? Just doing what the fuck you feel like and holding your frame when a) no one responds to it or b) everyone applies social pressure?”

        This is basically it. It’s giving yourself permission to fully express yourself and your feelings in the moment, and then not apologizing for that when people try to pressure you into betraying those feelings. It’s also trying new things that you haven’t done before, stepping outside of your comfort zone, to discover what things “click” with you.

        One of the big things that slows guys’ progress at pickup up is “That’s not me.” They’re still attached to their old identities so you say “go approach that girl direct” and they go “it’s cool that you can do that, and that works for you, but that’s not ME…” and refuse to experiment with it. They won’t step outside their comfort zone, and if you aren’t willing to cross the line and explore both sides of the pendulum swing, you won’t be able to find that happy middle-ground that clicks for you.

        Here’s Julien on forcing yourself out of your comfort zone:

        The great part about being a newbie is that pretty much EVERYTHING you’re doing is outside of your comfort zone right now. It’s awesome, that’s why you’ll make a ton of progress fast at the start. Even approaching is out of your comfort zone so you grow just from doing that. Hell, maybe even going out every week is out of your comfort zone, you know? It all counts and it all adds up.

        Down the road when you’re where I am, it’s harder to get out of your comfort zone because I’ve done so much shit that it’s difficult to find stuff that gives me that “o shit o shit” adrenaline rush. So it’s easier for me to plateau and stagnate and get bored with the whole thing, or slack off and lose my skills (like stopping going to the gym and ending up out of shape), because it all becomes routine. The trade-off is that my identity is rock solid. This pushing is why my game has developed into such a fucked up style where I can’t really pass my “routines” on to other guys (’cause they’ll get their asses kicked trying them), because I had to keep pushing myself further and further out of my comfort zone to the point where I’m doing shit that other guys overhear and are like “I can’t believe he said that, and I can’t believe she LIKES it?! wtf?!”

        There was a point where I came off like an asexual dancing monkey like every newbie, and there was a point where I dropped my first sexual opener while scared shitless that they’d slap me or call a bouncer, and there was a point where I started trying to always be sexual because I had slowly gained enough reference experience for my brain to say “okay, we can do this, we’re getting good responses from it”, and there was a point where my vibe overall became sexual like it is now. If you met me back when I started this, or even a couple years into it, you wouldn’t even recognize me as the same guy lol

        “The victories are all small, but they’re there.”

        This is what it comes down to. Tiny little victories. That’s why I encourage you to celebrate all the little things, they ARE the change that’s happening. It’s not going to be like a light-switch flips one day and you’re a bad-ass…it’s going to be “I’ve had 50 girls giggle at what I say and now I think most of the time I can tell the difference between a “little brother” giggle and an “omg you’re such an asshole” attracted giggle”. Like THAT’s the change, happening right there in those little victories.

        This is again why we stress going out so much. You can memorize all the theory and read all the books and watch all the videos and seminars you want, but if you aren’t out there applying it, you’re not reprogramming anything, you’re just bogging your mind down with useless theory.

        This is probably my fav Tyler video, because I was around in the old-school culture he talks about in here where “field experience is king”:

        The field will shove all your sticking points in your face. If your identity isn’t strong, the field will shove that in your face until it IS strong. If you get shit on and don’t stand up for yourself and set a boundary, but you go out regularly, you will keep getting shit on, until you DO stand up for yourself and set a boundary. A guy who sits around reading theory all day but not going out will never develop that…he’ll have it in MIND, from his reading, but when push comes to shove, he will fall back on his actual real life reference experience, which is to let himself get shit on.

        Even if you didn’t end up getting laid from this, which is pretty much impossible because you have a great attitude/determination…but even if you didn’t get laid from this, after like 3 years of going out, if you don’t even SEE a vagina, you will still grow a SHITLOAD as a man and your identity will become rock solid, which helps in other parts of your life aside from women. Like, there are so many benefits to this that you won’t even realize some of them until you run into them and unconsciously steamroll through a sticky situation and realize “oh, wow, that was a reflex from my pickup shit”, that any guys focusing purely on “well how many chicks did you fuck this week Scray? See? This PUA stuff is bogus!!” will just not be able to comprehend why you keep going out.

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  34. on April 29, 2013 at 4:55 am Man Reader

    Where the fuck Are all of my comments dude

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    • on April 29, 2013 at 4:57 am Man Reader

      Oh so this one goes through LOL what I said is buried at the gradebook for man should win comment of the week every week this is not even his best comment This week LOL Z LOL ZZ LOL Z

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  35. on April 29, 2013 at 5:39 am BuenaVista

    With the over-40 female, “I don’t want to get married …” or its variations (“I am so over being married” and “Let’s not get tied up in knots worrying about the long-term” and “It’s being in a partnership not being yoked together in marriage that matters”) is the lie that governs the interactions I have.

    But I am older and still attempt to be respectful at the same time that I am drawing clear boundaries, and it feeds their emotional porn desires. If I were a complete asshole all I would have to do to get laid is say, “I have everything but the comfort and joy of my soul mate.” When even a man-hating nightmare like Marcotte is diddling herself thinking of Don Draper, it’s pretty clear: these women slather romance novel icing all over the delicious cake that is the fucking “they don’t’ normally do.” I actually had a woman introduce herself to my online profile yesterday by saying that she was afraid to write because I sounded like someone out of a romance novel. Disney, and the myth of Prince Charming: this has destroyed a few generations of women (and been pretty hard on the men who bought them rings). I have actually been nicknamed Don Draper, Raylan Givens, and Cary Grant. (Because I … wear a suit? Drink rye? Make payroll and fly a plane? That’s all it takes, I guess: just a few indicators of trying to live a decent life, and it’s checklist city run amok?) This woman was not a retard: she’s a corporate attorney and otherwise has to have an ability to think critically. But not about men and sex, evidently.

    The only question is how soon it emerges, and openly. Since I take seriously my role (my role is to fuck my girlfriend like she’s never been fucked) (and my role is to cook her a dinner that her boring beta socially acceptable ex-husband couldn’t, before fucking her like she’s never been fucked) (and my role is to know about more things than she knows, which makes her tingly, so I can fuck her like she’s never been fucked), the over-under on the M-Word and its depredations is maybe two nights of bouncy-bounce. They don’t (at least in my post-modern cohort) bring it up explicitly: they just start acting like my ex-wives, get all moonfaced after I make them cum, and turn passive-aggressive if I don’t play my proper role in their fantasy romance novel. It’s too bad, in that I still fall in love from time to time, but that kills it on the spot. They really think that I can look at a woman and not remember being clear cut and strip-mined twice and had my children taken from me twice.

    I’m new here, obviously. Are comments moderated? I posted yesterday and it never appeared.

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    • on April 29, 2013 at 12:20 pm Nestor

      Welcome aboard.

      Thoughtful posts, like yours, from experienced, seasoned and articulate men are very valuable to the rest of us here.

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    • on April 29, 2013 at 12:28 pm Man Reader

      female corporate attorney means nothing as far as determining if she is intelligent or educated

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 12:57 pm BuenaVista

        I would say that ‘female corporate attorney’ describes the only female cohort that explicitly must think abstractly, think critically, and write well to succeed. Can’t think of another. They’re also used to being around men, and male lawyers curse — so the dirty talk is way better. Also they have money: the lingerie rocks.

        But you probably mean something else in regard to “intelligent or educated.” I meant high IQ with liberal arts undergrad degree, and a record of academic achievement. So not the sort of babe who brags in interviews about reading romance novels. But I actually got that line yesterday. Whoever coined the term “emotional porn” is a genius.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 1:47 pm Wrecked 'Em

        “Female Corporate Attorney” means that she’ll eventually use her ability to think critically … to be critical … of you.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 2:10 pm thwack

        Thats why female athletes are so much better. Not only do they understand the value of training, diligence, practice, observation, measurement… but they are also comfortable taking instruction and even criticism from men without getting defensive and butt hurt.

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    • on April 29, 2013 at 8:33 pm Nicole

      If I may, this could be happening because you’re dating cat ladies and not widows or women who have raised their kids already.

      One of my problems with dating older bachelors is the same problem with dating younger men. They usually have expectations attached to how the relationship is going to be or should be, that are pretty far away from what an experienced person understands to be the reality. Things you are going through the umteenth time, they are going through maybe the first or second.

      Like, they don’t have the unspoken good faith and trust thing down or the experience with men in positive long term relationships to be able to chill. They believe courtship to be this overly structured thing with checklists when you know that none of all that crap means anything. You are doing your job, holding up your end of the deal, and that’s what’s important, where for them the frills and formality are important.

      If you’ve experienced loving someone and being loved in a real way, you’re many more years ahead of them in the heart than you are in age.

      I don’t have a solution for this other than bringing them up to speed. Some flavor of “quit your bitchin'” maybe.

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  36. on April 29, 2013 at 6:11 am BuenaVista

    The other lie that correlates, oh, at maybe 100% with the American women I see is “I’m really comfortable with my sexuality.”

    They’re not; they’re really comfortable with their sexuality provided a stud does all the work, sex-wise. It means “I’ll take my clothes off and lie on my back, isn’t that oh-so transgressive of me?” It’s just another twisted faux entitlement we can thank feminism for, I guess.

    It used to piss me off that all these women who are “comfortable” with their sexuality were actually lazy, unskilled, and repetitive in bed. (I know, I’m 20 years too late to the wisdom that is Game, be kind.) Now I don’t bother waiting to be surprised, I tell them in the first or second conversation that I’m dominant in the bedroom (just alluding to it, maintaining a gentlemanly air, which is required by their emotional porn lust) this thought apparently is half-an-inch beneath the surface with them, and even the educated post-feminist high achieving “opening doors is optional” gang is telling me about their rape fantasies. *I* am the one insisting on condoms. Bizarre.

    (Also, dangerous as hell, given that all coins have two sides.)

    Given their rampant promiscuity you’d think that all these sexually liberated modern women would take pride in at least learning how to give a blowjob, much less do them in more than one way.

    But you don’t see Don Draper getting jumped and amazed, do you? No, Don is Daddy with a dick. That’s why they love him: he does all the work, all the time. And they have no idea how this absolutely explodes their feminist “I just want a true partner in life” bullshit.

    “I’m really comfortable with my sexuality” just means “I’ll wait with a wet pussy, and you can pleasure me any time you want, Mister.”

    Generalized cultural exceptions to this rule: Russians and Quebecois. A few of them do not, apparently, fantasize about Prince Charming or Fabio, or whichever cartoon character has convinced them that being inept in bed is cool.

    I did meet one American woman, 10 years ago, who blew my mind. But the M word came up (“I just wonder what our future is”) with the first example and the second one is . She remarried six months after we ended things. I often wonder if, now that she’s married, she’s getting any. There have to be a few married people who fuck each other, right? Right?

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    • on April 29, 2013 at 10:33 am Patriarch

      She’s laying there staring at you on her back because she wants you to go all Borneo head hunter savage on her ass, pulling her hair and clawing her like the psychotic man ape she fantasizes that you are.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 1:48 pm BuenaVista

        That’s a thought. I generally find myself with Caucasian WASPs, however. I’ll have to try some bronze-age tribal girls, eh.

        In truth, I think they’re just lazy, and they never grew out of the teenage attitude that “sex is something boys do and we give.” It’s a cliche, but they bore their husbands to tears, then go full nuclear if he gets a handjob in a cheap hotel.

        My last girlfriend was on the rebound from a bad marriage to a true sociopath (the worst kind: a white collar sociopath, i.e., a monster with lots of money and a slick mouth). He, of course, was serially unfaithful to her, and not with any grace or discretion about it. She ended the marriage after two or three reconciliations. She made a point, after the first exposure of Mr. Asshole, of making sex with him extremely important and extremely frequent. She’s a good girl, an MBA, makes checklists, is successful, kinda rich. Many, many positive attributes. So she was going to overachieve on the sex front. She was shocked that their frequent and concerted sexing still resulted in Mr. Asshole continuing with his two hypergamous dick-hunters. (The only funny thing about this story is that he had no idea how fucked he was as soon as he told his mistresses that he was getting a divorce. Now he’s going to be married to one, blackmailed or betrayed by the other, and ridden like Secretariat until he either dies or begs to pay them off and leave him alone.) She implied that he was getting into some kink with them; kink, to her, is probably anal. Or, having sex in front of the mirror.

        All right. So back to my good girl girlfriend. She’s just spent five years having desperate save-my-marriage sex. She’s talked to her girlfriends. She’s studied the Mormons (healthy marriages, often). She has an absolutely killer — I mean killer — physique: at least a 9, which means that she is way better looking nude than most college kids. I mean, my ex- was a model, and at 25 she did not have a body this good.

        So: I really like her. I discover that she’s never had sex that lasted more than a few minutes. She cannot initiate sex. She cannot talk during sex. She sure can’t scream, shout or pound on my back during sex. She has sex in exactly one of four ways. She’s wetter than a fire hydrant, cums easily and often. She’s loving it. We’re having sex before sleeping and upon waking. We go out to dinner and I fuck her in the car afterward. I take her flying and I make her cum with my hand. “I never thought it could be like this,” she says.

        And I’m dying. I get her a couple of books; overachiever, she reads them. “It’s hard to talk about this stuff.” Blushes when I say, “Honey, you give me the happy endings, I don’t give them to myself.” I invent games. I ask her: sex toys? Blushing. Handjob? Blushing. Mirror? Blushing. I buy the sex positions card deck. That’s a whiff. We have sex in four positions. Doggie embarrasses her (and she has the most perfect ass I’ve seen in 30 years.) She has one four-minute blowjob drill.

        Here’s what I know: this woman and those like her consider sexuality threatening, even in a monogamous relationship, and she and they consider sexual pleasure something they are allowed to enjoy at our hand, *but we need to secure for ourselves.* By “giving us access” they are giving us pleasure, they think. Of course, the entire thought pattern is eventually humiliating to the man and a massive double standard. That’s probably why feminists are so expert at it.

        It was after this experience that I took the red pill. I could have saved that relationship. We could have been happy, for longer. That woman loved me and loved fucking me; she just didn’t have the slightest idea as to how to go about it, or even why she should learn how to go about it. “Frequent sex” to her is just letting the man put his dick inside, plus bonus BJs for a fancy hotel or night out. And I didn’t have enough abandon to just say, “Look. This is what we’re going to do. Pay attention. We are going to do things differently around here.” I couldn’t do it, being all post-modern deferential and even-handed and all. I broke up with her. I told her why, a variation on the LJBF riff, with a “sexual incompatibility” kicker. It was hard on both of us. A month later the lightbulb went on, and I apologized to her for not showing more leadership. We’re friends, to the point where she is testifying for me in a parental kidnapping case. But I will never, ever make that mistake again. Most women are lazy and unimaginative in bed. If they weren’t they wouldn’t read crap like Fifty Shades of Grey. The only way to make a virtue of their passivity is to dominate. If you don’t? Get ready for a lifetime of seven-minute sexual experiences.

        Now I realize how virtually every alpha female is sending signals, to wit: “I like to have a man’s shoulder to lean on” or “I’m a feminist but I do like a bit of tradition”. What does that mean? “I’m probably not very good in bed, and may not care, but feel free to dominate me.” So we beat on, boats against the current.

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    • on April 29, 2013 at 12:36 pm Patriarch

      She wants you to do her Borneo head hunter style. That’s why shes laying there motionless. Grab her hair, claw her face and chew on her like the man-ape she is fantasizing that you are.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 10:35 pm siberianjourney

        It’s no fun unless she actively WANTS to be humiliated, ASKS for it explicitly, and gets HOTTER degrading herself. Just doing it to a passive consumer gives no power rush. Sex doll city.

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      • on April 30, 2013 at 9:08 am Patriarch

        They all want it. How they go about expressing or repressing the desire is the variable. She is not different ,unique, or special. She is descended genetically from women who fought over who got to be savaged by the resident tribal apeman on a regular basis. Do not be fooled.

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  37. on April 29, 2013 at 6:27 am Diogenes the Cynic

    That does it! I’m ordering the GBFM t-shirt right now! I might also get the coffee mug.

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  38. on April 29, 2013 at 6:46 am derickburton

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    • on April 29, 2013 at 8:05 am Man Reader

      LOLOLZZZZZLOLOLZZLOLZZZZ

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    • on April 29, 2013 at 1:06 pm Amanjaw Marcuntte

      Set as new ringer? YES

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 1:51 pm derickburton

        Haha Great idea!

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    • on April 29, 2013 at 5:08 pm Patriarch

      Say my name over and over again. Daddy likes how you say “Patriarch.”

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    • on April 30, 2013 at 5:50 am Stilicho

      Is this Feministx?

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  39. on April 29, 2013 at 8:02 am whorefinder

    I think every stripper works with animals or children. I’ve never gotten the first day line.

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    • on April 29, 2013 at 9:16 am Patriarch

      Strippers always tell me they’re married to a wonderful…as she grinds her cooter ‘N pooter into my crotch for pennies on the dollar compared to what her husband is paying. He must be proud. She can’t see it but I’m wearing a condom under my blue jeans.

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  40. on April 29, 2013 at 8:07 am Erudite Knight

    ‘I dont normally do this’

    heard that, ‘done’ that

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  41. on April 29, 2013 at 8:11 am Tim

    Everything I needed to know about Game, I learned from GB4M: “Alpha fux, beta bux.”

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    • on April 29, 2013 at 9:44 am FuriousFerret

      I’m not quite sure that’s something to be proud of.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 12:27 pm Matthew King

        Hater.

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  42. on April 29, 2013 at 9:48 am Unh

    It did not take long after receiving my free (Plus shipping and handling.), 60 day supply of Red Pills for me to get involved with a hard, tight body ‘8’ that said exactly these words – and is now finding that she enjoys more and more things that she ‘has never done.’ Unbelievable!
    What a contrast to my former not-so-distant Beta-days when I would pedestalize and get jerked around.

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  43. on April 29, 2013 at 10:06 am The Scolds' Bridle

    mk is a mimic. a mimic of a thinking man. in fact, it’s like seeing a cargo cultist suddenly take interest in the written word.

    perhaps he would enjoy reading feminist blogs where grim, humorless soulmates await him.

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  44. on April 29, 2013 at 11:05 am Ulf E

    Never really completely off topic:

    http://owningyourshit.blogspot.se/2013/04/my-address-to-ny-state-libertarian.html?showComment=1367249066400#c7172435769627354065

    Extract:

    If women today in the west can be said to be married to the state, in a very real sense, men are married to it as well, and the obligations expected of them are the same as they always have been. In this marriage, men pay at least 75% of the tax revenue into the system, and reap a disproportionately tiny percentage of its protections and benefits. In this marriage, the state enforces the obligations of husbandhood after divorce, and the obligations of fatherhood even when men did not consent to become fathers, and even when they are allowed no meaningful role in the lives of their children.

    In this marriage, the resources men put in are diverted toward the additional protection of women through the erosion of men’s legal protections and civil rights. In this marriage, men are expected to pay for a system that not only does not serve them, that not only offers nothing back to them, that has not only made a mockery of due process protections for them, but one that even handicaps their ability to perform these obligations by favoring women in the prioritization of education and employment, and by facilitating the removal of fathers from the lives of children who need them.

    The state is, essentially, forcing men to finance a system that disenfranchises them. And the state is, essentially, paying women to disenfranchise men, and handicap their own children. Social responsibility is enforced on men through penalty of imprisonment, while for women, social irresponsibility means a check in the mail every month.

    A lot of people have wondered aloud why there aren’t more female libertarians. If there’s a reason, it might lie in a lack of incentive. Big government costs the vast majority of men–their wealth, their civil liberties, their autonomy, sometimes their freedom–but for most women, big government represents an insurance policy and a perpetual subsidy of their personal choices, good or bad. Men pay, women benefit.

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    • on April 30, 2013 at 8:18 am Good Ole JR

      Yep. I had a single mom in my harem for a couple of months. She had a bastard child from a one night stand with an alpha. Kid is on state health insurance. She gets a free education for being a nurse at a state hospital while being paid well. Gets tax deduction, credits, etc. for kid. She was 35 and had a shitty attitude like she had 100 other options. The big daddy state does for these types of women the same thing that having a harem does for a a man–it gives her a default option. Hence, the shitty and unjustified attitude. Absolutely no consequences for her other than being led down the garden path by good ole jr. Dealing with the shitty attitude quickly outweighed the copious pussy.

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  45. on April 29, 2013 at 11:38 am Hammer of the Gods

    Yikes:

    http://www.gwhatchet.com/2013/04/29/manouch-accused-of-sexual-abuse/

    “The Metropolitan Police Department is investigating a sexual abuse allegation brought against the hot dog vendor who famously serves late-night snacks on 21st Street.

    “A 19-year-old woman said Manouchehr Nava, known to customers as ‘Manouch,’ hugged and kissed her three times the night of April 20. She said she was unsure whether Nava touched her buttocks while giving her a hug, according to MPD documents.”

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    • on April 29, 2013 at 12:39 pm Patriarch

      April 20th eh? How high was she to not remember being groped by everyones favorite llate night weiner guy?

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  46. on April 29, 2013 at 12:55 pm AlphaBeta

    Hahaha and jizzabel wept: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/emma-johnson/ingle-moms-and-other-stro_b_3117711.html

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  47. on April 29, 2013 at 12:57 pm Amanjaw Marcuntte

    Time to get those little rationalisation rodents up and about for a little hamstercise!

    I will never tire of feminists attempting to chicksplain away hypergamy.

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    • on April 29, 2013 at 1:06 pm Patriarch

      If horses were sluts they would look like horses.

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    • on April 29, 2013 at 1:29 pm Man Reader

      The fact that this exists and articles are written about it proves that page 1 of the Bible is correct. Women swoon for the serpent bad boy, period. They are just pathetic. All of CH’s blog is contained on PAGE ONE of the Bible. I re-read it just yesterday.

      Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”

      2The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’ ”

      4“You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5“For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

      6When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. 7Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.

      8Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the Lord God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the Lord God among the trees of the garden. 9But the Lord God called to the man, “Where are you?”

      10He answered, “I heard you in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid.”

      11And he said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from?”

      12The man said, “The woman you put here with me—she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it.”

      13Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?”

      The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”

      14So the Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this,

      “Cursed are you above all livestock

      and all wild animals!

      You will crawl on your belly

      and you will eat dust

      all the days of your life.

      15And I will put enmity

      between you and the woman,

      and between your offspringa and hers;

      he will crushb your head,

      and you will strike his heel.”

      16To the woman he said,

      “I will make your pains in childbearing very severe;

      with painful labor you will give birth to children.

      Your desire will be for your husband,

      and he will rule over you.”

      17To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat from it,’

      “Cursed is the ground because of you;

      through painful toil you will eat food from it

      all the days of your life.

      18It will produce thorns and thistles for you,

      and you will eat the plants of the field.

      19By the sweat of your brow

      you will eat your food

      until you return to the ground,

      since from it you were taken;

      for dust you are

      and to dust you will return.”

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 3:04 pm thwack

        You can’t believe any of that “evil serpent” crap.

        That was racism on a good snake that was tryin to turn his life around.

        You know he didn’t do nuffin!

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 3:19 pm Amanjaw Marcuntte

        Adam sounds awfully beta.

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      • on April 29, 2013 at 6:00 pm Man Reader

        Correct. And the Bible is clear that man was punished for listening to his stupid wife instead of teaching her and dominating her And resisting her stupidity. Modern equivalent is standing up your wife and preventing her from spending all your money for Example. It says right there in the book that God was mad because he listened to his wife

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    • on April 30, 2013 at 3:42 pm AlphaBeta

      Hybristophilia: love of criminals. As though it was an intentional nod to women’s love of alpha males, the prefix hybristo- is derived from the word hubris.

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  48. on April 29, 2013 at 1:39 pm James K

    What shall it profit a woman
    If she fuck the top alpha in the world
    And lose her own soul
    Through her hole for poo?

    Beta bucks, that’s what!

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      as da feiisnsits see no truth nor justice in their laws
      and say da great books for menz was all fools.
      yes, yes, i did very good on my gmats
      dey bernenakifed my soul away, left me with cats

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