A reader with an urgent family emergency has turned to the Chateau for help.
I have been reading your site for many years now and thank you for all of the wisdom you have shared. Your blog has improved my life in many ways, and I humbly ask your advice now to convince my brother that he is about to make a terrible mistake.
My brother is the pride of the family – went to a top school undergrad, graduated med school last year, and is now on his way to becoming a surgeon. He is a well-adjusted, mature man who has had a couple of long term relationships in the past and possesses above average intellect, physical, and social skills.
For the past 6 months he has been dating an unemployed divorcee who is 8 years older (he’s 28, she’s 36). This summer he will be moving across the country for his next rotation and they have decided that she will also move and live together with him. She has no social network in the region and even if she finds a job will be relying almost entirely on him financially, emotionally, etc. Not surprisingly she has been pushing him for a ring and a baby, and he seems to be happily going along with this.
My parents and extended family are distraught. We have all tried to reason with him but to no avail. You and your esteemed commentators can all see the train wreck that will occur if my cousin decides to marry and start a family with this woman.
My question to you is this: how can I talk him out of it?
Nervously Poolside,
Dr. No
This reader’s brother needs an intervention. A strong, powergut propelled, three pats on the back intervention. The best teachable moments are those which sock the nascent quisling in the face with a blistering infographic:

The graph is via GLPiggy. As you can see, more women have sex before age 25, but after that the dynamic flips and it’s men who enjoy the edge in sexual pleasure. The why is simple: women are most desirable when young. Men are most desirable when older, and continue staying desirable well into middle age. The underlying why is even simpler: Female attractiveness is almost entirely a function of their physical beauty. Male attractiveness is a function of multiple causes, including status, power, charm, looks and social dominance.
This is CH 101, aka Life 101, aka Feminist Soul Implosion 101.
So tell your brother it makes no sense to marry a woman eight years older than himself when he has the SMV goods RIGHT NOW to land a hotter, tighter, younger babe without divorce baggage, said baggage which itself is strong evidence she will divorce again. And on top of that, his SMV will only increase for another ten, perhaps twenty years, while hers, if she is the typical woman following the usual senescence track, will have a date with the wall of sexual expiration just about the time his appeal is maxing out.
That’s a recipe for marital failure. It makes no sense for him to hitch his cart to this gimp horse, unless….
she’s hot.
I mean, balls tingling, cock leaping hot.
You left this out of your description of her. Be honest, how hot is she? A hard 10? And not just for her age? Because if that’s the case, (however unlikely), many would find it difficult to dissuade him from experiencing the kind of glorious transcendental passion that most men can only crave from the sidelines of their gloomy masturbatoria.
You see, a man falls in love with a woman’s beauty. He does not fall in love with her smarts, her job, her credentials, her family connections, her employability, her future time orientation, or her ability to stand against the patriarchy or avoid the pitfalls of divorce.
Her beauty inspires his devotion, his lust, his love, his tenderness, his protectiveness, his delirium. Once inspired, he begins the journey of discovering all those other little things about her that seem now to him so powerfully alluring. Her beauty is the buttering ram that slides open doors to aspects of her subtler being that are joyously and post hoc-ally embraced by him as motivating reasons for his ardor.
Save this man, yes.
But save him from what? Himself? Or your family’s concern with appearances?
I ask with all sincerity. Because you need to be sure that you will act in your brother’s best interest. If he’s a man of solid self-possession who happens to be truly, deeply, crazily in love, leave him be. If he’s a beta who is clinging to what he imagines is a lifeline from a fate of grinding loneliness, then by all means get in his face.
Show him this blog. Let him sponge up the message that is both necessarily hateful and nourishing.
Slyly introduce finer specimens of femaledom into his life. Let him smell their intoxicating aroma.
Employ the carrot and the stick, the coax and the shame. In time, if he is not completely lost to the forces of self-doubt so preciously cultivated by our feminism glorified society, he will find his footing.
Preferably in the bed of a 22 year old stripper.
UPDATE
An astute commenter has noted that the reader requesting advice referred to the man in question as his brother, and then as his cousin. This may indeed be a troll email.
Nevertheless, the message stands. Trolls can often serve as useful springboards to discuss larger matters which do impact the lives of many men.
UPDATE 2
From original emailer,
My sincere gratitude for your post.
The cousin is a typo, he is my brother and this is a very real situation.
The woman in question is not hot at all, though not ugly – clearly post wall looking to latch on to a provider. 5 at best.
We are acting in his best interest as we can all see what will happen a few years down the road as your readers have already noted. He is more the latter than the former in terms of self possession vs beta – our working theory is that he fell headlong into this because he was in a new city working brutal hours without close friends around.
I am staging an intervention imminently and will keep you posted. The red pill will be hard for him to swallow but its better to go down swinging.
Just inform him that there are hot 21 year old women he can meet just about anywhere who would swoon for his surgeon swagger. Once he knows that, tell him he needs game. Direct him to the resources at this blog. Rudimentary game is all it should take for a whole world of young, exquisite pussy to blossom before his eyes. It sounds like the beta is strong in this fellow, so his shift in attitude from a scarcity mentality to an abundance mentality will need to be swift and sure. Good news: the shift will fully reflect his real opportunity.

There isn’t much you can do man. You can tell him. You can sit him down….you can speak to the wind. But if he isn’t a guy that gets laid regularly….or thinks internally that he has 10 years of waxing amazing pussy, It is a lost cause. She has the hooks in him which is her ability to drain his balls of serum.
What a sad state of affairs. This greaking guy… A freaking surgeon… is signing up for a life time of 2nd hand pussy that will fully expire before Obama leaves office.
Jesus…god help me. This dude should be picking up a 24 year old NFL cheerleader and instead he is bringing home a washed up cougar.
Only in America, Only in America.
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the good doctor
is unfamiliar
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how shall we say this gently?
the concept of
BERNANKIFIED!
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1. Bernankified
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Weighed down with a soul-crushing amount of federally-guaranteed student-loan debt.
The name is obviously derived from Fed Chief Ben Bernanke.
“I met a cute chick, but she was so bernankified that I couldn’t see a future, so I dropped her.”
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only somebody nnedz to update it with the second definition:
2. Bernankified: The state of being Buttcocked and desouled by a faux “tucker Max rhyemes with Goldman Sax” “alpha(lzozozl) who lies about his hheaight and succeteh while secretely videotaping da buttcockcticngs.
Again meaning #2 also works in the sentence above, “”I met a cute chick, but she was so bernankified that I couldn’t see a future, so I dropped her.””
“BErnankification” pertains to the spiritual, monetary, and physical state of today’s women, many of whom are awkening to sore buttholez, massive debtz, and the inability to commit to husbands, children, god, honor, and truth, which is pretty much how the bernanakiffieieirz want it lzozzoozzzozozozozozozozozo so they getz it.
here’s da roosh forumz discussing da GBFM:
http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-23366.html
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“…he’s 28, she’s 36… This summer he will be moving across the country for his next rotation and they have decided that she will also move and live together with him…”
There is one and only purpose for marriage, and that is to create a legal & social structure within which CHILDREN can be made, born, nurtured, raised, and edumakated.
Absent children, marriage is an utterly purposeless institution [unless maybe you’re looking to launder some family wealth around the estate tax laws for a few more years – but that’s a completely artificial reason to get married – it’s a social dilemma which wouldn’t exist naturally if we didn’t have to deal with gubmints and taxes and nihilistically insane tax codes].
In this situation, the problem is that – by this summer – the chick might already have turned 37, and the two of them might not get married until she’s 38, and even if he knocks her up that very year, then 9 months later, when she’d need to be pushing the baby out, she’d likely be 39 [if not 40], and if, at that age, she can even carry a pregnancy full-term to a live birth [without miscarrying], then that baby might very well be the ONLY child which he ever gets out of her.
Now if she’s a truly exceptional woman, then he might get one or two children out of her in her 40s, but she’d have to be a way-off-the-bell-curve heroine-ical saint* [by today’s standards] in order to make that kind of sacrifice for him.
On the other hand, if you were to subtract ten years from their ages, so that he was 18, and she was 26, and if she were already pregnant NOW, then he’d still have plenty of good child-making years to look forward to out of her.
But 36 and not even pregnant yet?
I’m just not seeing him getting very many children out of her, and I’m seeing a very strong possibility that he gets ZERO children out of her.
*And if she’s still childless at 36, with a history of marriages and divorces already in her past, then I’m just not seeing that she’ll prove to be “a way-off-the-bell-curve heroine-ical saint”.
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“There is one and only purpose for marriage, and that is to create a legal & social structure within which CHILDREN can be made, born, nurtured, raised, and edumakated.”
True. The primary reason for marriage is children.
“Absent children, marriage is an utterly purposeless institution “
That’s not entirely true; you can’t deny the secondary benefits marriage provides, like security, companionship, and trusting someone. Of course, you have to have the right spouse, not a bitch or a cad looking to squeeze the other dry. Women look for security and social respect, and men look for companionship and trust when one-night stands and unattached sex are not enough fulfillment. These emotional human needs is why you see very successful men who have throngs of women throwing themselves at their feet eventually getting married for the 2nd or 3rd time after they already have kids with a first wife. Otherwise, if you keep attacking marriage when it’s already under assault, you’re only giving the left more ammunition to degrade the society. Once people start forgoing marriage on the ground they are not having kids, it will spill over to the culture at large. Not that it’s not already infecting our society, but still, why add more ammunition to lefties. Society never allowed sex outside of marriage until very recently, and that included older people marrying for the 2nd time where kids are not produced, precisely so that a bad example is not set to younger children-producing couples. In any case, marriage is always better for society than women freely whoring themselves and men using and throwing them away like raggedy dolls.
Anyway, not that I’m condoning this relationship by any stretch, because I think this guy is a total idiot for even entertaining the idea of marrying this women, but most women can carry a baby in their 40s thanks to great medical advances. So that’s not the issue here. The issue is as Jack@Hotmail.com said: She is “a washed up cougar” and a “2nd hand pussy that will fully expire before Obama leaves office.” Doesn’t he want to be with a hot tight girl, fresh and in her prime, sharing his bed? But why are we surprised? This guy sounds like a flaming beta, and we know that beta males don’t feel the complete emasculating impact that marrying an older woman has on them. A beta surgeon, who would have thought!
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‘The issue is as Jack@Hotmail.com said: She is “a washed up cougar” and a “2nd hand pussy that will fully expire before Obama leaves office.” Doesn’t he want to be with a hot tight girl, fresh and in her prime, sharing his bed?’
I don’t give a damn what the bitch looks like.
She could weigh 500 lbs and look like Hillary Rodham Clinton for all I care.
What I am interested in is whether, at age 36, she can still push out 4 or more full term live births of white children, the average IQ of which is at least 130.
Whether all of the kids will be his, and not some other man’s [or men’s].
Whether she has a warm and gentle and friendly and optimistic personality.
Whether she has a kind heart.
Whether she will grit her teeth, suck it up, and homeschool the kids.
Drive them to their music lessons [and force them to practice their instruments the other six days of the week].
Drive them to their sports teams’ practices.
Make them shut the hell up, put on their Sunday clothes, comb their hair, and get to church on time. And then sit still in the pews for an hour without so much as even squirming.
Whether she enthusiastically supports the exercise of 2nd Amendment rights within the household.
Whether she would ever in her wildest dreams even entertain the slightest little FANTASY that she might sneak off to an abortuary and murder the child in her womb.
Etc etc etc.
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Well, this all fine and dandy, but being 36 won’t hinder her abilities to do any of these blessed things you would like to see women do, so it’s totally irrelevant to the situation. Alpha speaking, a woman’s age and beauty are what men want and discussed here. If this 28-year old male is only looking to procreate with a woman, this 36-year old female will do. She can still pop out 4 little ones. All she has to be is more of a willing specimen than her younger counterparts. Thus, if this guy wants to exercise his alphaness in the strictest sense, then going as young as possible and as beautiful as possible are the way to satisfy that requirement.
As far as 130 IQ, that’s not in our control, just like we can’t choose height or hair and eye color etc…again, her age has nothing to do with your wish list.
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Most women will be able to conceive naturally and give birth to a healthy baby if they get pregnant at 35. After 35 the proportion of women who experience infertility, miscarriage or a problem with their baby increases. By the age of 40 only two in five of those who wish to have a baby will be able to do so.
The average age at which women have in vitro fertilisation (IVF) treatment in the UK is rising. This reflects the increase in infertility due to age. However the success rates of IVF treatment for women over 40 are low and have not increased much over the past decade.
From a purely biological perspective, it’s best to try to start a family before you’re 35.
http://www.babycenter.com.au/a6155/your-age-and-fertility#section1#ixzz2S7yPoWx3
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@Clooney
No question about it. The older a woman is, the harder it is to conceive. Medical advancement is making it possible to some degree, but there are still many barren women after age 40. Delaying having kids for later in life is taking a big chance. There is no guarantee a woman will conceive with fertility treatments. Many of the feminists who waited to find husbands are starting to realize this reality hitting them in the face.
@Tom
“When “LILY speaks about “the benefits of marriage” she is clearly only talking about the benefits for WOMEN – and fails to recognize that there is simply NO benefit for a man whatsoever. I thank my personal GOD I never learned it the hard way. And women should really shut the fuck up.”
I know some of you really fear marriage, while some of you just use feminism as an excuse to stay single and play the field. Whatever your reason, it’s irrelevant, so I won’t argue with you about it. All I know is the evidence I see – when highly successful men who have scores of women throwing themselves at their feet get married for the second time after already fathering children with the ex-bitch of theirs whom they paid handsomely in divorce court, it means there are still some benefits to getting marred instead of remaining single and having a temporary girl every few weeks or a new fuck every night. Nuff said!
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LILY SAYS: “That’s not entirely true; you can’t deny the secondary benefits marriage provides, like security, companionship, and trusting someone.”
HELL YES YOU CAN.
And sell it to somebody else. Nobody is buying.
There is no “security” in marriage for a man. NONE. Zero . Zip. Zilch. Nada. If a man wants security, he had best never sign a marriage contract under any circumstances.
Companionship and trusting someone???
Ok stop. No really. That tickles.
…. as illustrated by the 75% of divorces initiated by WOMEN.
Plus this one:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,477485,00.html
Who didn’t even get security, companionship and trust from the wife who’s life he saved with his very own kidney.
And this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToUJj-sKtN4
And this one….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygrnL3ZaKXU
You were saying??
As you can see, they are not remotely interested in “companionship” and it’s a fact —– worldwide.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-myk23yTyM
When “LILY speaks about “the benefits of marriage” she is clearly only talking about the benefits for WOMEN – and fails to recognize that there is simply NO benefit for a man whatsoever. I thank my personal GOD I never learned it the hard way. And women should really shut the fuck up.
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@LILY
That’s an adorable try sweetheart but we don’t “fear” marriage like you pretend. Because is doesn’t require “courage”.
The only risks reasonable people are willing to take – are CALCULATED risks. One weighs the costs and benefits of those risks. And as it is, men have figured out at an EPIC rate that signing a marriage contract FAILS a cost/benefit analysis for a man.
So it’s not “fear” at all.
Because signing a marriage contract doesn’t require “courage”.
—–>> it requires stupidity.
If I see an alligator pit with a sign that says “WARNING: MAN EATING ALLIGATORS!!!” it isn’t *fear* if a man decides not to enter. Because he already knows – in advance – that the situation fails a cost/benefit analysis…. and going in anyway would require STUPIDITY.
Same thing.
Are you getting it yet?
And if you see a dog shit on the street and you simply NOT INTERESTED in picking it up, playing with it, or talking to it… does that mean you are “afraid” of it??? Not remotely.
I think you’ll find that makes perfect sense.
Knock of the silly “fear” tactic.
That female shit is totally transparent and doesn’t work.
Carry on.
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“That’s an adorable try sweetheart but we don’t “fear” marriage like you pretend. Because is doesn’t require “courage”.”
Why do you like to put words in my mouth? Did I say you fear marriage because you lack courage? Or do you think it’s implied that (feminist) women think men who fear marriage lack courage?
I don’t think you lack courage and therefore fear marriage, and I’m not a feminist either, so feminist jargon and stupidity play no role in my propositions. What I think is that most of you heard so many stories about some lying cheating bitch who cuckold this guy or that guy and then took everything he owned in divorce court (including his kids), and the thought of it happening to you sends fear shivers down your spine. Also, marriage is responsibility, and it’s also restrictive. In today’s age when you can have sex without making pledges and taking on responsibility for a wife and kids, why not take the easy route? Who wants to be chained? So those are the reasons I think most of you dump on marriage, not because marriage is truly bad for men. Your mind plays tricks on you and you start justifying the perpetual single life. That’s normal human behavior, not something that plagues men per se.
There are added benefits to marriage, like security, companionship, and trusting someone. Can you have those things with one night stands or temporary GFs? I don’t think there is a guy who doesn’t say he’s tired of the bitches (they’re all the same) and wished he could meet that one he doesn’t tire of.
You based your whole theory on the false premise I think you lack courage. That’s how clueless and simple-minded you are. Try paying attention next time.
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hey heartsiztez heartsiztzes heartreizzttezz!!!
dey are alreadyz alreadiez writing rhyming, metered (and thus banned by da femeinsistz) poeteryz for da GBFM!!!
http://dalrock.wordpress.com/2013/04/30/remaking-the-princess-evicting-the-prince/#comments
Regrdingg the GBFM’s prospective job as a starbucckz baristas (i hope i hope i hope so i can paay off nmy beebrnnankfification stduent laond debtz peennance zzlzozozoz) Lucius Somesuch says:
““Coffee (which makes the politician wise,
And see through all things with his half-shut eyes)” . . .
lolzlzlozzl Churchh Leader GBFM(TM) undertakes new strajegems stratagies for da salfavtion of da– (ahrhrhm)
–Excuse me, what the Linguists call “code switching” o’ertakes me in the presence of da GB4M. I was saying:
Our Hero undertakes to ply his arts
‘Gainst the femmey wits of sore-buttholed f@rts
In the house of coffee where, shameless, stew
The fleshpot urchins for an hour or two:
As they tweet and twitter, seeking amour
Da GreatBooksForMen closes in to score
Da Ladies think he offers lotssa c*ck*as
When he offers to proofread their j!zzy bloggas;
But little guess they he’s on a mission
Their Bernankification to seek remission
lolzlzlolz But not by sticking a ring on it! –Well, it’s back to the “Essay on Critizsim” for me!
But I hope da GBFM’s new undercover missionz will be a success!
In conclusion, da Alexander Pope on Churchians:
“Then unbelieving priests reform’d the nation,
And taught more pleasant methods of salvation;
Where Heaven’s free subjects might their rights dispute,
Lest God Himself should seem too absolute:
Pulpits their sacred satire learn’d to spare,
And vice admired to find a flatterer there!” (l.546-51)
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heay hearatisttz!!!
more GOOD NEZZZWZ NEWZZZZZ!!
it jsust keeeeps cumming and cumming! (Dats wat she said zlzozozozoozozozozoz)
anywho at rooooooooossh’s forum dey are analyinzing anal-eyesinz anal lyizing anal-eyeziing me analayzing me!!!!! (analyze = anal eyes = staring at someone’s butt ANAL crack so hard and so long with your EYES that eventually you get it lzozozozozozo and you say, “EUREKA IT IS AN ANAL CRAKC ZLzozozozozoz! now!! I ONCE WAS BLIND BUT NOW I SEEZZ!!!”)
http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-22766.html?highlight=gbfm
“Nice translation. As DarkTriad said butthexing is girls getting anally sexed. It also works on several leverals since its close in sound to texting, sexting, sexing (obviously) and hexing (as in putting a spell/curse on them).
Also, its cuckold the betas and cuckold the alpha, as in cheat on the betas to fuck the alphas.
. . . . .Like the quad metaphor he got out of that. That’s insane. He does like to rhyme Tucker Max rhymes with Goldman Sachs a lot usually.”
HEA?RTTSIETZ!!!
SOEMBODY FINALALY GOT MY QUAD METAPHOR in teh word butthexting!!!
The world is finalaly starting to aprpeiciate me!!! mayabe i won’t die alone and unkown like vincent van gogh and herman melville and persecueted like soctrates and jesussth! and now STRABUCCKZ will have no excuees to truen me down for employmenztz serving up epspsessorz in da dayz and laoststac cockas at nightzz to da hotty ghott cleientteelelz!!
“da professional womenz ode”
alpha fucks and beta bucks
dat is how we roll
da butthexting cockass we fucks and sucks
and in our anuthes it doth deosul
alpha fucks and beta bucks
it is da way of da fed
to transfer assetss to dose who butthext
cuckold dose who pay for our bread
beta bucks and alpha fucks
it’s what day teach us we;’re entitled too
da assetts from betas we plucks
after da alphas desol us through our hole for poo
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cuckold da betas cockhold da alphas
datsz what day taught us in mba grad school
as da feiisnsits see no truth nor justice in their laws
and say da great books for menz was all fools.
yes, yes, i did very good on my gmats
dey bernenakifed my soul away, left me with cats
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And kingsely writes, “Not a coincidence and because of him i’m rereading the classics with a whole new appreciation lollzz you fiat buthexxes.”
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hey more goodd ennnznz!! newz!! dey are emriaking remakingz remiankingz da movie breavehearztz!!
GBFM: And if this is your army of PUAs and Churchianz, why does it go?
Churchian: We didn’t come here to fight for them!
Young PUA GAMER: Home! The Buttehxtesrz are too many!
GBFM: Sons of HeartisteDalrockland! I am GBFM.
Young PUA GAMER: GBFM is seven feet tall!
GBFMe: Yes, I’ve heard. buttehxttesz womenz by the hundreds and sectrely tapez it like tucker max rheyems with godldmman sachz l lzozzlzoz. And if HE were here, he’d consume the fiatat sectreieve tpaaerz taperz of buttehxtterz with fireballs from his eyes, and bolts of lightning from his arse.
[PUA ARMY army laughs]
GBFM: I *am* GBFM! And I see a whole army of my countrymen, here in defiance of tyranny. You’ve come to fight as free men… and free men you are. What will you do with that freedom? Will you fight?
Churchian: Fight? Against that? No! We will buttehxt. And we will live.
GBFM: Aye, fight and you may die. Butthext, and you’ll live… at least a while. And dying in your beds, many years from now, would you be willin’ to trade ALL the buttehxting days, from this day to that, for one chance, just one chance, to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our future wive’s buttholzizizozozlzozzl and souls, but they’ll never take… OUR FREEDOM!
[PUA/Churchian army cheers]
GBFM: Alba gu bràth! LOZOZZOLZLZLZ!
[“The GREAT BOOKS FOR MEN forever!”]
Army: ALBA GU BRÀTH LZOOZOLZOLZOLZ! ALBA GU BRÀTH LZOZOZOZOZOZO! ALBA GU BRÀTH LZOZOZOZOOZOZO!
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Yeah and part of CH’s post really surprises me: the post asking how hot she is! CH, is that you?!? No way she can be that hot at age 36.
[CH: Every rule has its exceedingly rare exception. See: necrophiliacs, fatty fuckers.]
Not physically possible, because the crow’s feet at the eyes are there by 36 and cannot be stopped. My 36-year-old ex GF has a rocking ballerina body and looks like an 18-year-old from the neck down….but even she has the crow’s feet. It can’t be stopped. I have no sympathy for this dude, however, and he’ll get what he deserves. I too married at age 28, just when I was about to really explode into my peak DMV age. I was dumb, so fuck this dude. I owe him no concern.
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It really does depend on the woman. My g/f is 41 (I’m 42), and she is still amazingly hot. She looks better than a lot of women half her age.
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Stacey Dash. Enough said.
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Yeah, it doesn’t matter how hot you are at 36 – you’ll never be as hot as you were at 22. As a post-30 woman, 99% of your job is preventative maintenance, running feminine girl-game on your husband, and trying to stay ahead of other women in your age bracket (which isn’t as hard as it sounds, given that a huge percentage of them are fat and lazy.)
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No, that’s not exactly true, but it’s the demographic rule. It’s rare, but it does happen–I know a couple women who are hotter in the earlyi 30’s than at 22, but only because they were fat at 22. I’m thinking of a female friend who is far hotter in her early 30’s than at 22. She was a fatty, I mean, 180lbs of butterball turkey-fat, at 22.
She discovered crossfit and paleo at 28, and now 4 years later, she lost 75 lbs, has ripped abs, and an unbelievably perfect, perky ass. Her boobs could be better, but her face is beautiful and not much crow’s feet to be seen. Soon, perhaps, but still. Unfortunately, there are there are but a precious few women that are hotter at 30ish than at 22. It IS NOT the rule, but the ultra-rare exception.
The great thing about these girls, they don’t have so much of the super-stoked hamster-ego like chicks who’ve always been hot. They know what it’s like to be dumpy, and have a lot more humility. This is more valuable than a lot of men realize.
These women would be an ideal catch for a 50-something red-pill man who wants another crack at having a family, or maybe just a young, hot, tight, and humble addition to his rotation.
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I always thought angelina jolie was hotter in her early 30s than in her 20s even though she was never fat.
kate beckinsale too. She was never fat, but somehow even in her 20s her face looked almost like it hadn’t grown out of all its babyfat. Her face looks more sculpted and striking in the last few years, I think.
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“I always thought angelina jolie was hotter in her early 30s than in her 20s even though she was never fat.”
Are you out of your mind? She looks like a skeleton – desperately trying to dry up any trace of fat and moisture from her leather-like skin. Her face is sunken. That’s what happens when older women lose too much weight. You see their age on their face and neck. It’s a dead give away of age. That’s why for an older woman it’s better to be 10-15 lbs. over what you were in your 20s – so that your face doesn’t look sunken. In Angelina’s case she weights even less than she did in her 20s. She looks yuck!
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Yuch. I swear I can smell even just the remnants of fat shred years ago. I’ve read that fat cells never die, just shrink.
Anyway, I did really like fucking one chick who said she was once fat, but she was only fat for like half an hour, and I’m not even sure I believe her. Plus it was a 15-minute pickup on the way to ecstasy-fueled fucking, followed by a night at a swingers club and group sex. I’m not sure how attracted to her I would have stayed had we had more than that two-date relationship, but I must admit she was hot.
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Fat will always be fat.
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This might be a stupid question, but do thin girls get more wrinkles on their face than heavy girls?
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Short answer: yes. Long answer, yes with a “but.”
That’s where the saying “At a certain age, a woman has to choose between her face and her ass” comes from. A few extra pounds can really fill those wrinkles out, especially the parentheses lines. (Other risk factors are being Caucasian, lots of sun/tanning exposure, and smoking.)
But: The good news is that they’re doing some really awesome stuff with Botox and Restylane these days. Laser resurfacing can remove a lot of the effects of sun damage, as well. It’s not cheap, but given the realities of the SMP, it’s a logical way to go.
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I think we have seen what happens to the actresses with the botox yea its awesome if you are in a horror movie
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@ Kate
Not a stupid question.
As they age, women look older if they are as thin as they were in their 20s. A woman in her mid-30s (34 and up) should be at least 5-7 lbs over her 20s weight, depending on her build. And a woman in her 40s (and up) should be 7-15lbs over her 20s weight, also depending on her build.
Have you ever seen those older stars with a hot body but a sunken face that shows their real age? It’s because they are too thin. You see crow’s feet, sagging neck, sagging jaw line, lack of elasticity all over, etc….
@RappaccinisDaughter
That indeed is good news and they’re developing new technologies every year.
Let’s face it, this is an ageing society and most people don’t want to age gracefully. They won’t go down without a fight. That’s why there is a market for these procedures, which men are starting to utilize too. Affluent people increasingly want to look younger and be healthier. It’s also why the vitamin and supplements market is exploding. Cosmetic products are no longer enough for most people. They want real results.
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Thanks!
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That depends, gunslingergregj. Some of them are clearly cheaping out on it, and some of them are clearly overdoing it.
But most of the real “horror show” stuff you’ll see isn’t from Botox (which wears off in about 4 months), it’s from bad plastic surgery. The surgeons are taking off too much loose skin, which is what gives them that overstretched, waxy, “surprised” look.
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Look at Kim K. She is a bit,ya know,hideous. But when she was young–and I mean YOUNG hee hee.like 15–Gawd she be hot!! She had the sweetest and most beautiful but also most evil entitled princess face. Now? Meh.
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I can say for a fact, that I am more physically attractive now in my mid twenties that late teens/early twenties. It seems like my facial structures (cheek bones higher, nose becoming tinier, round babyface becoming more oval shaped) are way more pronounced now. I also look legitly ageless. I get carded EVERY.SINGLE.TIME. I highly doubt I will get crow feet under 40 but I will be interested to see how age affects my looks. It is not all good though, I pretty much have more white hairs than brown hair in one side patch on my head. I swear, it was like one day I woke up and they were just there. It is like in the middle of her head too, so bizarre.
^^^ ***if you are thinking the above was written while the writer was high, you are probably right***
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wow….reading my post sober, I lol-ed then felt utter shame and embarrassment. Sorry guys!
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“I also look legitly ageless.”
I pictured you staring at your reflection, mesmerized by your own beauty 😉
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It is like in the middle of her head too, so bizarre””””””’
yea maybe cause you aren’t you hmmmm
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@ Kate, there is just so many wrongs with my first post. I was so stoned (medicinal hehe) and thought it wise to go on CH before I went to bed. lol what a mess.
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@ gregi…lmao…yea maybe!
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“running feminine girl-game on your husband,”
It’s always good to run feminine girl-game on your husband, even at 22. What do you prefer, a masculinized feminist in training, or a hot girl immersed in femininity, and she knows she has effects on you?
BTW, it has been proven that beautiful women have strong impact on men’s mental abilities.
“Researchers have begun to explore the cognitive impairment that men experience before and after interacting with women. A 2009 study demonstrated that after a short interaction with an attractive woman, men experienced a decline in mental performance. A more recent study suggests that this cognitive impairment takes hold even w hen men simply anticipate interacting with a woman who they know very little about.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=why-interacting-with-woman-leave-man-cognitively-impaired
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Lily, care to kindly expatiate on what exactly feminine girl game entails?
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What exactly do you want to know? feminine girl-game is the opposite of what the man is running on you. He is more aggressive, you are more receptive.
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[CH: Every rule has its exceedingly rare exception. See: necrophiliacs, fatty fuckers.]
You CH, comparing fatty fuckers to necrophiliacs. Huh. Huh huh. Huhuhuhuhuh. lozlozlzolzozlzoz
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I checked the link to the Starbucks Union. It referred to the ‘IWW Starbucks Union’. I wonder if they are associated with the Wobblies?
Anyways, Starbucks is another example of the McJobification of our economy.
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She is a 5 and 36yrs old her looks have expired already ffs this guy needs to get a clue..
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He don’t wanna be saved….
He will need your help in 5 years though—
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Morpheus: The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you’re inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy.
You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged.
And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.
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Morpheus: The Fiat lozllolozllzzl butthex Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. lzozozozozl! But when you’re inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, bloggers, teachers, betas, lawyers, herbs, carpenters, and neocon womenz writing for the weekly standard, repeating the fiat lies of secretive tapers of butthex without teh girls conthent lzozlzlzlzl. The very minds and anusholes of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that butthex system and that makes them our anus’s lozlzlzozzozozl enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unbuttplugged. And many of them are so inured to butthex, so hopelessly dependent on the system of secretive tapings of butthex without tehir conthent, that they will fight to protect it and reapet the lies of secretive tapers of butthex in teh pages of the weekly standard even though they seem to be nice neocon ladies.
[Neo’s eyes suddenly wander towards a woman in a red dress]
Morpheus: Were you listening to me, Neo? Or were you looking at the woman in the red dress (woman as temptress in the heor’s journey myth) who was desouled via copious fiat-funded butthex from butthexers celerbated in teh pages of the weekly standard?
Neo: I was…
Morpheus: [gestures with one hand] Look again.
[the desouled, massively-butthexed woman in the red dress is now a bestselling new york times author, pointing a cock at Neo’s ass; Neo ducks]
Morpheus: Freeze it.
[Everybody and everything besides Neo and Morpheus freezes in time]
Neo: This… this isn’t the butthex Matrix?
Morpheus: No. It is another training program designed to teach you one thing: if you are not one of us lozlzlzlzlers, you are one of them butthexers.
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“I’d like to share a revelation I’ve had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species. I realized that you’re not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague, and we are the cure.” – Agent Smith
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There’s a better graph, though I have been too lazy to actually ever put it on the web or on anything more durable than the back of a napkin.
What my graph shows is that if a guy marries an age appropriate woman 8 years his junior (a gap that obviously widens over time) instead of a woman 8 years his senior, he is in fact choosing to have to provide sexual services to a very old woman at the expense of a very young one. Follow me.
Say they are married for 50 years and one or the other dies at that time. At the relatively virile age of 78, he will be having sex with a decrepit, dried-up 86 year-old. Had he married a woman 8 years his junior, under the otherwise-same scenario, the oldest woman he would have to fuck in his life is 70.
But its a lot worse than that when looked at realistically. In exchange for the disgusting prospect of having sex with a woman who is 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85 and finally 86 years ago, he is sacrificing having sex with a woman 8 years his junior who – if he were to marry her today – would be 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, and at most 35 years old.
Yep – a guy his age who marries a woman 8 years his senior instead of 8 years his junior is choosing to have 16 years of sex with an old lady, rather than 16 years of sex with a woman in her prime. In other words, if he goes through with it instead of the very available option of marrying a 20-year old, well, with all due respect to your brother, who I am sure is a fine man – well, he’s one sick, demented, perverted, fuck. He needs a shrink badly.
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dude this far-out example is not even needed. Woman’s potential fuckability, at all, ends at age 42. So you stop counting after that. 73, 75 wtf are you talking about?? So dude needs to marry a girl as close to 20 as possible to get as close to 20 good years as possible. Simpl.e
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I agree with you about when fuckability ends, though I go higher with rare examples of women who are DTF (like already nude at an orgy and rubbing my cock), but the horrific fact of what this guy is about to do to himself is that when he is in his 70s and therefore past his prime and most in need of hot young pussy, some disgusting 80-something hag will be hounding him for old-lady sex and he will have to deal with that one way or the other, whether by placating her on occasion or avoiding it.
And if he doesn’t deliver in response to those demands, including quite possibly demands for cunnilingus, he is likely to find himself divorce-raped and having to still practice well into his 70s in order to afford hookers.
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where i see the disconnect here, again, is just that …well, do people that old have sex? I just figure do the best you can with women younger than 45 as much as possible and after that find other hobbies to keep you occupied
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Women generally have a lower sex drive and desire for frequency than men even when they’re young. When they’re older, most women only get worse as far as that. My grandmother was an exception, but most women lose the desire to do it a year or two after menopause. Then they wish you would go shag someone else, and will sometimes even make suggestions.
Lifelong partnerships are apparently so rare these days in the U.S. that people have forgotten how realistic women used to be.
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Yes. As I have always observed, women don’t care who their men sleep with, as long as they get to keep his money and assets. The other women (as long as they are not draining money away or get pregnant which will drain money away) are doing them (the wives or partners) a favour.
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Nicole,a guy posted here a few weeks back,(and maybe he HAD a weak back hee hee) he said he banged a black chick and loved it. He spoke of her being wild,moaning and biting. Are u that type o sista,Nic? Or are u the old dowager who says get that thing outta my face??
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Fred, I take care of my man’s needs with enthusiasm. What’s the point otherwise?
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“but the horrific fact of what this guy is about to do to himself is that when he is in his 70s and therefore past his prime and most in need of hot young pussy, some disgusting 80-something hag will be hounding him for old-lady sex and he will have to deal with that one way or the other, whether by placating her on occasion or avoiding it.”
Haha..…you guys are killing me. Women can’t have sex at 80. I don’t think they can even at 70. I guarantee, she won’t be hounding him for sex when she is 80 and he is 72. He’d still be interested though and hooking up with a 55-year old or younger. Assuming she’s still alive, she probably won’t care much either. Hell, but by the time this woman is 80, they might discover how to rejuvenate cells so old age could be deferred to much later. Stay tuned!
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He sounds like a big brained, smart, sensitive, studious guy. In other words, he hasn’t gotten laid much. He probably hasn’t realized his value to women as a good looking, hot doctor. He probably has not bounced around a lot and is in that mode where he thinks by being nicer, more committed, more “what women want,” that women will want him. He likely has relatively low self-esteem because up to this point, women haven’t been throwing themselves at him, and that is how the older woman landed him. That will change now.
You gotta slap him out of it. Explain that there is a garden of delight awaiting him, including some smoking hot younger girls – without baggage, who aren’t divorcee retreads. He’s gotta know that his life will be the stage on which she acts out all the dramas – hers and some other guy’s – that screwed up her marriage and life to begin with.
Failing that, you need to remind him- when he’s a 45 year old, fit, super successful doc, just really hitting his stride as a professional, the lust object of a lot of women – she’s going to be a 54 year old woman with fading looks, who is insecure and irritable about the hot young nurses (and even the not as hot and not as young) female docs he is working around, and maybe even his patients if he goes into a youth-oriented kind of medicine (e.g. sports orthopedics, etc). Her looks, but more importantly her attitude – are likely to be a huge boner killer. And, BTW, her unhappiness is likely to be grounds for another divorce. Danger Will Robinson…
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Personally, I’m totally in favour of younger guys dating older women, if that’s genuinely what makes them happy. It means less competition for those of us who are into younger women, for one thing. My brother’s getting married next year to his girlfriend (who is about 36, he’s about to turn 30) and they’re very happy. Personally, I’m 32, and I’m into women a lot younger (18-25) but that has to do as much with my own issues as with anything ‘objective’. I don’t understand why Heartiste thinks otherwise- less older men dating younger women means *less competition for you*. (And for me).
I’m also, more generally, in favour of men trying to date the women that *really* appeal to them, and not letting anyone else try to tell them who they ought to date. That means, not the feminist whackoes at Jezebel, not your family members, but also not people on this blog who think you should be dating someone younger, thinner, etc.. Letting other people tell you who to date is sort of juvenile. If this guy is into older women, good luck to him.
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You are deluded. Go back to reddit and manboobery
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I’m actually not particularly interested if you think I’m deluded or not. I don’t know what ‘manboobery’ is. If you think about it logically for a minute, though, you’d realize that if guys like this dude date older women, that means *less competition* for the younger chicks. You can, uh, do math right?
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” Less Competition ” for what… fucking. They are available anyway for ever more rides on the carousel as long as their looks last. For LTR or marriage, for every 30 year old man, there’s a tight 20 year old chick. The more alpha the man the hotter the chick that he will land if he’s looking for ltr/marriage or whatever. The whole ” Less competition ” for the purpose of pickup sounds moronic/beta/shallow or for the newly initiated.
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the fact that you think there is competition for younger girls makes you a manboob.
the fact that you don’t understand what I just wrote above shows me that you aren’t competition either. keep reading.
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“I’m also, more generally, in favour of men trying to date the women that *really* appeal to them, and not letting anyone else try to tell them who they ought to date. That means, not the feminist whackoes at Jezebel, not your family members, but also not people on this blog who think you should be dating someone younger, thinner, etc.. Letting other people tell you who to date is sort of juvenile. If this guy is into older women, good luck to him.”
My goodness! Didn’t you read what CH said? He didn’t flatly tell him to tell his brother to dump her. He first asked about his motives in objecting to his brother’s choice, trying to be rationally honest. I thought CH gave him very good and benevolent advice.
Review what he said:
“I ask with all sincerity. Because you need to be sure that you will act in your brother’s best interest. If he’s a man of solid self-possession who happens to be truly, deeply, crazily in love, leave him be. If he’s a beta who is clinging to what he imagines is a lifeline from a fate of grinding loneliness, then by all means get in his face.”
This advice is spot on. If the man in question knows what’s truly good for him and he also happens to be madly in love with this woman, why tamper with their relationship. However, if he’s a beta who lacks sexual skills then he needs to be saved because a marriage with an older woman will eventually end in disaster, and all studies predict this too. I don’t know how women bring themselves to dating a much younger man when they have instinctive feelings of unease about it. Listening to feminists telling them it’s OK to date younger and women are sexually equal to men, is how.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/vicki-larson/age-difference_b_990768.html
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” He probably has not bounced around a lot and is in that mode where he thinks by being nicer, more committed, more “what women want,” that women will want him.”
You don’t know how important that is.
I once saw a guy on this blog scoff and 34 yr old women that list their online dating preferences for men as between “28 and 36.” But my experience is that doing so is not ridiculous. Male attraction is multi faceted and often times guys who have been in grad school for their whole 20s cannot comprehend how attractive they will be to women in 5 years. I have seen this so many times. Hence, women who are 34 can actually date out of their league by dating guys who are like 27. Women are not usually willing to do so, but it’s not necessarily a stupid thing to do if you get him to put a ring on it quickly.
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“Explain that there is a garden of delight awaiting him, including some smoking hot younger girls… Failing that, you need to remind him- when he’s a 45 year old, fit, super successful doc, just really hitting his stride as a professional, the lust object of a lot of women”
Let’s be real here. Have you been on a college campus lately?
Unless they’re gold diggers, hot young chicks couldn’t give a flying fuck about a 45 year old surgeon. They have daddy’s money and can fuck all the bad boy/meathead/jock/ frat boys they want.
A 45 year old surgeon who couldn’t get hot, willing pussy 20 years ago is not suddenly going to swoop in and collect these bitches.
The real problem is that he lacks skills with the bitches. Until he attains the social wherewithal to charm and bed bitches, all his brother can do is have him trade an old gold digger for a young gold digger.
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Hospitals are often full of hot, 20 something nurses and technicians. The surgeon is the alpha authority figure. I’m sure the potential is there for a surgeon to do very well, if he has any game at all.
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If he wants to go lower, he can try to date the 19/20 year old hospital interns.
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I guess you don’t know how nurses look in most western hospitals. Our hospitals are swarming with 3rd wolrders or fatso white nurses (old and young alike) looking like cows grazing in the field. The sight is enough to induce extreme annoyance and irritation, if not complete disgust. You might see a hot one out of every 1,000 case. It’s not enough nourishment for the surgeon, or the hospital department head, or the specialist, or the internist, or the emergency physician, period. Now, the technicians or the therapists look a little bit better than the nurses. Anyway, assuming there is a hot female around, no doctor is going to pick up women in the hospital for fear of sexual harassment accusations, unless he works in close proximity with the one he fancies and they have a good working relationship, and he also knows (beyond a doubt) that she has an interest in him. A man can sense when a woman is interested. Otherwise, he has to be very cautious. So the average doctor is not necessarily bedding women at a higher rate than the average single male with a bit of game on his side, in spite of his alpha status.
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The problem is that he is no game.
If he’s relying on his job title to attract pussy, there are two problems: (1) He’ll just attract another gold digger. If he can’t even handle an old digger, a hot young nurse will have him married in no time. (2) Plenty of other surgeons will outrank him, let alone out-alpha him.
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“Her looks, but more importantly her attitude – are likely to be a huge boner killer.”
Sure, if she’s insecure about her looks, her attitude will be that of an unhappy bitch.
“marriages in which the wife is older than her husband are more likely to be troubled — and the age difference doesn’t have to be all that big. In fact, couples in which the wife is just five years older are three times more likely to divorce than couples of the same age.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/vicki-larson/age-difference_b_990768.html
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Start telling him he’s a loser for settling so low. Bring it up often and don’t pull any punches about it. Make fun of her wrinkles and goose skin on her neck, etc.
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It makes sense in theory, but in my experience that kind of teasing won’t work if he’s actually in love, and is much more likely to drive a wedge between the two brothers than between the brother and his wife. All you can do as a family member is let your objections be known and let them screw up their own lives.
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Man up and turn it into a bet [or a series of bets] involving $$$s and actual verifiable legalistic factoids*.
Since he’s still in school, keep it low, like $100. Or if you wanna get really serious, $1000:
A) $100, True or False: In ten years, the two of you will still be married.
B) There will be some formula for alimony in the state of residence [after X years of marriage, the woman gets Y percent of the average of the last Z years’ worth of your salary], and use that in the bet: She will not file for divorce until after the alimony law states that she is “vested” in your “real” salary [your post-residency salary in your “real” job as a “real” surgeon].
C) $100, True or False: When she enters menopause and her womb becomes barren, she will have given you two or more full-term live births of your own biological children [not some other man’s].
D) $100, True or False: All of the live births which come out of her during your marriage [and until nine months after the divorce is finalized] will be able to pass a DNA test proving that they are yours.
E) Again, depending on the laws in the state of residence, something involving who gets custody after the divorce, and the amount of the child support payments, along the lines of: She will sue for full custody, she will win full custody, you will get no more than one weekend per month visitation, the child support payments will be in excess of $2500 per child per month, etc etc etc.
F) $100, True or False: She will accuse you of child neglect, child endangerment, child abuse, or child sexual molestation during the custody hearing.
And so on and so forth.
If you want to get really romantic about it, then instead of putting the money in an escrow account, you and your brother could right up the bets on a piece of paper, sign the paper in blood, put the paper and the money in an old Thermos bottle, and bury the Thermos bottle beneath your favorite tree house in the back yard of your parents’ home, with the understanding that you won’t dig up the Thermos bottle for a period of, say, twenty years.
*As opposed to chick-flick non-falsifiable horseshit like, “You will still have warm-n-fuzzy feelings for her in ten years.”
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“right up” = write up
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That’s good, because if he can nail just one flaw that continues to nag at his brother, it could really snowball.
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For once, I would respectfully disagree with CH:
1- She’s 36 !! There is no way in hell that she would still be a 10, and even if she was, why not date a 26-yr old who is an 11 ? 🙂
2- Even if the brother is hopelessly in love, this is not a good enough reason to invite the matriarchal state into his relationship (by signing a marriage contract, moving together etc. ) The better approach would be to convince her to get her own place next to his, get a job and maybe help her with the bills a little (always with cash -> plausible deniability, in case she wants to rape him with an alimony judgment later on)
3- Self preservation: everyone knows how badly this one is going to end. He may be happy today, but his life will most likely be ruined in a few short years. Was it worth it? How? I have some succesful friends (but beta otherwise) who felt for the older divorcee scam, and I can tell you that watching them go from confident and happy to bankrupt and suicidal is not something I would wish on anyone.
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First he says brother, but at the end he says cousin. Troll alert.
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Good catch.
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Oh my God! Thisisi worse than i thought! The brother wants to marry this older woman who is at the same time being fucked by his COUSIN!!! The cousin wants to marry her too. This will not end well…
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How do you think “brother” and type “cousin”? Typo, my balls. Fabulist chode. Bogus.
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I agree completely. Regardless, were it true, there is likely nothing to be done. I’ve tried to intervene in similar sitches, but you typically only get results post-getting-your-heart-broken. He’s not ready.
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Fake but accurate!
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Just made me think about those faux “hate crimes”. Hey it’s more important to get the message out than tell the truth…
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If she is hot, and they do have a distinct physical resemblance to one another…It may work. One of the Hemsworth’s is married to Pataky with the same age gap, and they are happy. There’s lots of examples…but in each case the girl is extremely hot and the couple ‘fits.’ (same eye color, same hair color, similar personalities, they just click)
That being said, I’ve tried to break up impending marriages and it’s never worked. So…goodluck!
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That’s a tough one. He could seduce her…
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You left out that her name is Jennifer Lopez.
Or an equivalently hot cougar.
Although I’d have to say JLo’s expiration date has already passed…
Weep for the poor cherry blossoms which bloom, are so pretty, and fall and are trod into the dirt so soon. But don’t marry them.
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I have qualms about marrying a woman 1 or 2 years younger than I. And this guy is thinking about crawling into bed with a woman who is, by all account of age, standing on the other side of the wall? The only indicator worse than would be if she had the spawn of some other guy’s gorilla milk clinging to her ankles.
And if she’s already divorced, you can bet your sweet ass she’ll do it again. And with a surgeon’s salary? Good luck if she leaves him with enough for a condo after her and her lawyer rape him good and plenty in any one of our great nation’s family courts. They’ll both drive away in their brand new 2017 Mercedes, laughing all the way as she leans over and gives Saul Q. Shwartz Esq. road head.
That also makes me curious: not to be derogatory in any way, but is the woman in question Jewish? She seems to fit the bill for a typical cosmopolitan Yuppie divorcee JAP who is admonished from a young age by her mother to chase doctors and lawyers.
Whatever the case, she’s bad news. She’s self-evidently a gold-digger as she has virtually nothing to offer the guy in terms of SMV unless she looks like Christina Hendricks does (also 37 at the moment). It’s an unfair trade and she knows it. She’s asking to be divorced when a wealthy young doctor figures out he can pull better ass…..unless she divorces him first. And that’s her plan.
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I think what we need is a secret society of hired [relationship] assassins; the weapons of connubial fate.
Perhaps Dr. No can hire himself a loom-reading, bullet-curving, Inter-Continental Ballistic YaReally to snipe-bang this hag,
film it,
and email the footage to said prodigal son,
.
with a CC: to the rest of the family.
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I bet this woman is using every tactic known to man and woman to keep this guy around. The slurps at night are probably audible for a quarter mile radius. She has probably cracked something trying to force her body into sexual positions eighteen year old Chinese gymnasts would just assume accept a goverment stamped bullet in the head than attempt. If this guy comes to his senses and leaves her, she’s gonna be shall we say, difficult, to deal with.
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yea most definetly
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Oh, one can hope but…it is doubtful.
Most older women who are available are available for a good reason. A very very small proportion of us are just unlucky. Most are, for some reason or another, substandard.
Though I understand exceptions and respect them, it is rare for a woman that age who will accept the attentions of a younger man to feel less rather than more entitled.
I stopped hanging out with available women my age years ago for that reason. They’re too hostile and lack gratitude. I feared that my reputation would be smeared by association.
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this
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You read my mind friend. Seems to be the only way out of this mess.
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The claws are in him. Only hope is to find a really high class call girl to play his girlfriend unbeknownst to him if you have the cash. This must be done before he moves and takes said baggage across the country.
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I will save him. I heart surgeons. I am not divorced. I am 6 years yonger than 36. I have a good job
Tell this guy to marry me.
[CH: Do you do anal?
Vintage.]
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lozlzozzlzozlzozl dunt dunanaaaaaaah. feminist x to the rescue!!!! that would actually be a cool deal for you guyzlsolzolzoz
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If I asked you how big your dick was, would you not feel inappropriate answering on a public forum?
[CH: What kinda public forum do ya think is being run here? Darning Life & Housekeeping?]
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Suit yourself. How big is it?
Actually, im not even curious about that. Im asking just for the sake of asking intrusive questions. Better question- what’s the longest relationship you were ever in?
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7 years for me. #winning. got 2 beautiful kids out of it.
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you got nice legs. do you wax?
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Shave. Often. I have to.
[CH: Waxing >>>> shaving. Stubble on shaft is no fun.]
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Ok. Good to know. No one ever mentioned this to me. Maybe they did not think of it. But then again, a dick is supposed to slide into a vagina- you know? Like the squishy pink place. It’s not supposed to be so huge that it chafes against the skin outside until you can maneuver it in.
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was asking man reader, not you
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The answer you seek can be found in this classic post: https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/03/27/the-tell-tale-slap/
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Do not follow that link. The comments will take you way, way down the rabbit-hole (-urethra).
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*jumps in taxi* “Follow that link!”
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I read part of it. I have to give hearts credit though. If I were a dude with a blog like this, id brag about my endowments a lot more often. Well lets face it. If it were me, there would be a new pic of it posted every week.
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I call BS Femx. You have not given us a new pic in weeks!!! LZOZLZZZZOLZOZZLOZZZ
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http://tinyurl.com/taxigoat
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LOL!
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Well, that wasn’t quite the answer I was curious about but I guess some of us never miss an opportunity to brag.
As for my answer to the original question, if I love you, I will do anything you want. I’ll even pretend I enjoy certain acts you might want. That said, the thought of 9 inches inside my ass is frankly terrifying. I’d have to really really really love you for that.
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but you gots a BOYFRIEND!!! :S
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I think Dr. No has bigger issues to handle if his brother is his cousin.
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that’s what I said
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In one of the bands I was in when I was in my mid twenties and drowning in minge batter the drummer who was younger than me was living with a divorced forty something with two kids. She eventually cheated on him with the lead guitarist who would have fucked a hole in the ground if it had hair round it. I met up with with this unfortunate stick jockey some years later and one of the first things he said to me was that he considered he wasted the best part of his prime years with this aged hag. I realise this is only anecdotal but if you manage to get your brother to this site seeing woeful stories such as this one might be enough to make him change course. If that fails send him to me and I will happily slap some fucking sense into the fucking idiot.
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is this the guitarist?
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would need to see the face to be sure, but I wouldn’t put it past him to play dress up
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My guess is trying to deprogram him from the matrix will take too long. The red pill takes many months if not years to digest.
You could always do what they’d do in Game of Thrones… hire a smoking hot prostitute to seduce him without him knowing she’s a prostitute. He’ll think he’s hot stuff, too hot for the thirties divorcee and will go out and find newer and better pussy. Failing that you can expose the infidelity and break them apart that way.
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I think this is a really good idea. I bet hiring that hooking for a solid six months will cost about a 1/4 of what this cougar is going to get out of him when she takes his ass to the cleaners.
Amazing.
A fraeking surgeon is signing up for a lifetime of 36 year old pussy. My god….what a sad state of affairs this country is in.
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not a lifetime of it– a year of it until she’s 37 and beyond. and then marrying and impregnating and then apparently revisiting it when it’s probably 39-40. not exactly the primo time to snap back into shape.
my brother, an physician, is divorced twice, FORTUNATELY both before he was an employed doctor. he is in a similar situation as the story now, but the girl is like 25 and actually good looking and undivorced. and even then i cringe and worry that he’s not learned a lesson yet.
i dated a girl roughly that age and narrowly escaped myself, she was divorced and hot enough to blind my rationality. (artful 😉 ) nude model, sex anytime, red hair, etc. i barely BARELY decided to not move in with her, ate all the accompanying shit and tears she volleyed at me, and now i’m back to being a young looking 40 year old having sex with girls in their 20s. in other words, i’m happy.
i don’t know how you can save this dude but i guess you have to attempt it. i told one brother of mine not to get married and all it did was lead to some sourness when the divorce came and it was assumed i was thinking ‘i told you so’.
good luck!
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If the guy is a surgeon, let’s say he ends up making $500K/year. His future ex is going to take half that at least, but let’s be conservative and say half. So $250K/365 = $685 every night of the year. In this shit economy, and with the prestige of being a surgeon, for that price he could probably get three hot nineteen-year-olds to move in with him and be his pets. (I see plenty of them working for minimum wage just at the grocery store; imagine the effect $228 per diem would have one them). He could fuck one while watching the other two make out. Just make it a condition that they take their birth control when they walk in the door and he keeps the pills in a safe.
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“… He could fuck one while watching the other two make out. Just make it a condition that they take their birth control when they walk in the door and he keeps the pills in a safe…. ”
Damn! Why was I born handsome but not rich?
your plan is almost perfect ( to be clear, I’m not making fun of you )
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Re: Just make it a condition that they take their birth control when they walk in the door and he keeps the pills in a safe.
Nah, having a baby with a sweet nineteen year old sounds hot.
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Lolzzz. But then the father loves the kid and it’s bye bye money and sex life
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Yes, but he ends up married to a hot, sweet 19-year old.
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She won’t be hot and sweet forever. His income and status keep rising, her looks keep plummeting, best to keep a revolving door of 19 yr olds and not settle for one.
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Remind your brother that he’s a doctor.
The hippocratic oath to help people includes the obligation to help himself.
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That’s an easy one. Show him this video:
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The 1:09 mark had me horrified. “Mean Girls” hot she is not.
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I swear they swapped in some of Courtney Love’s shots in between.
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Coulda swore I saw a bit of Charlie Callas in there!
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Dude, that is way to kind to her. With the drugs and drinking she is already near the end point. Intervals in between are pretty few these days and when I saw a clip of her on Letterman you could tell she was using. Drugs and alchol to excess ravage faster than mere time.
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This video offers a perfect real-world depiction of the classic “dead eyes” slut tell. Contrast her eyes beginning around 13 seconds with those beginning around the 28 second mark–thus you have the genesis from bright young thing to certified slut taxi. (Obviously the drugs have not helped either.)
I’ve noticed “It’s Easy to Identify A Slut” is always in this blog’s Top Posts list. Well for those trying to decipher what one of the identifiers looks like in the real world…this is exhibit A.
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Theres talk she was a victim of a child abuser when a young child star. True? I dont know but…
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36 is ancient in the US of A
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Even her titty milk has gone sour.
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These brothers sound like the pair in an old sex romp called “The Malibu Bikini Shop,” in which a fun-loving brother tries to team his uptight sibling away from some shrew. This guy should find the film and watch it with his bro — it’ll get the message across.
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Adventures in Day2’s:
Show up an hour late? Check.
Pick venue she said she never has liked? Check.
…
😀
…
Social circle shit is still rough.
Most of the time it’s just like…
Chris Farley’s what comes out…David Spade is what my mind says…and that due they’re talking to is just about any girl lol
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Pussy’s getting you crazy Scray. Get yourself a Tenga egg, do a few rounds of BJJ ground and pound, then jump back into being Tommy Sr in the clubs.
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Nah, it’s just more of the red-pill swallowing ‘it’s noooot faaaaaaaair’ feeling. Like, conscious incompetence is the goddamnest goddamn that ever goddamned.
Plus side…if anyone goes out and wants to try something to get you and a wing laughing, I find that just being ridiculous about PUA concepts is fun. Like (leans against the wall, arms folded) ‘check me out bro, I’m totally setting an alpha frame here against the wall, totally DHVing to all the furniture in the room…that HBBarstool over there is already giving me IOIs, could probably sit on it if I wanted to.’
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Dude, you’re the man, Scray. Keep goin’! Dudes I used to hang out with would enter a bar and yell, “Yo, check us out!” Total DHV fun-vibing.
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@Op
This guy is fucked. Convince him to sign a pre-nup (follow the rules on how long before the wedding to do it so she can’t say she was under pressure, ensure there isn’t anything invalid on the contract that would null the whole thing, etc., google this shit the info is out there, even if it gets thrown out at least he had it VS not had it and maybe she’ll freak out about him even asking for it which might help him see her scam), then sit back and cross your fingers and be there for him when it blows up in his face. He likely won’t listen to you right now because he’s in luuuuuurve and you guys just don’t understaaaaand, this one’s speciaaaaaal, etc. etc. rationalization hamster.
@Scray
Field Report breakdown: https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/04/28/comment-of-the-week-16/#comment-434618
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@yareally
Thanks! I really appreciate it.
@newlyaloof
lol ya, I’ll try that soon. thanks for the encouragement
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Med students all know the score. They walk into a bar and drop “surgeon” and women react predictably. Or, he is just an epic fail clueless idiot. Perhaps from Asia and not familiar with US women. The story isn’t plausible.
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As I have educated this community previously, male MDs are invariably (invariably) bad-breath-having, socially weirdo slobs with plaque in their teeth that they don’t notice, smelly, shirt half tucked in, big pot belly. They are overrated. Then they work 80 hours a week for $40,000 a year until age 37 or so. Not a real good catch.
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In North America even the worse MDs earn far more than $40,000 a year.
80 hours a week for $40,000 a year is about $10 an hour
the average MD’s receptionist earns more than $10 an hour.
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nope they make 40k during the “internist” years which is even after they are MDs
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This is right on the money. I disagree with the idea that they all have a pot belly, and have found MD’s are often fit and health conscious, but they have been wrapped up in school, work, and cultivating debt for years. The prestige of the career is still there, but they really don’t get to enjoy it as they are always working in a job that is incredibly stressful. The type of people who select into the career are invariably stone cold serious and lack humor to the point of being insufferable.
They often go for older women, who already have children. Maybe they are looking for a ready made family and stability. I have seen it multiple times. There are exceptions, of course, but this scenario described by the reader is extremely common.
I’m going to a wedding in June. The bride is 36, groom 25. It’s not really so unusual anymore and people aren’t raising eyebrows as they did in the past.
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Don’t be ridiculous. Your overly exaggerating. They are not social weirdoes who don’t care about their own health, and they don’t earn peanuts until the age of 37. While they are interning and practicing their craft, the hours are long and grueling and the financial compensation is low. That much is true. But eventually it all turns around. Your comment sounds like jealousy.
@The_Stranger
“They often go for older women, who already have children.”
Not really, but they often go for doctors which means older women. She might not be older than him, but she is usually a woman in her late 20s early 30s who is also a doctor herself.
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It doesn’t matter if it’s not true, it’s a much-needed teaching moment.
I would advise vietnamcupid.com
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Or dateinasia.com (which is free), but watch out for the ladyboys.
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And what about Ashton Kushter’s experience in this matter?
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Troll or not, take him out to a bar, game some skanks and remind him of what he could be getting.
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A little too simplistic. Yes, looks are the “buttering ram” and lust the attractor, but a woman’s personality, temperament, femininity, humor, etc. also play a huge part in love and compatibility. Consider a very hot 10 who is also a stone cold bitch, unbearable to be around, let alone like. A hatefuck- certainly; a relationship? Absolutely not. The converse obviously does not hold true- a girl with a great personality alone cannot inspire love if the attrcation is not there. Beauty alone is necessary but not sufficient. And the other elements are not brains, education, credentials (as the feminist view goes)–though these are markers for other aspects of compatibility–but temperament and personality.
On point of the post- even if it’s a troll email, in a situation like this I agree with those who recommend getting a hooker to seduce him, which might break the hold this woman has over him.
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If she’s a freak in bed it also helps. This is why I stuck it out with some crazy chicks for longer stretches than I’d like to admit.
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This
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And re: my post yesterday, more points my ex GF lost without knowing it. She bragged to me that some of her ex BFs stayed with her longer than they otherwise would have just because the sex was so good. My poor ex GF is a sweet heart but was lied to by the matrix so she thought “sexual freedom” was not going to bother me just because sex with her was good. It was good for many others when she was younger, tighter, and hotter, too.
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yea me to fuckers but no matter how many time she asks me to marry up or start thinking about her kids as mine the answer is no
think she hates me now though the pussy got old again like it always does
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Maurice, I think you’re misreading what he’s trying to say. It’s understandable since beauty is such a loaded topic.
He’s not saying that a woman has to be more beautiful than average for a man to feel love for her, just that what beauty she has is what does it. Men are visual creatures for a very good reason, and one of them is to quickly vet suitable women within a short enough time that they don’t miss the opportunity to create some tingles.
Different guys have different fetishes and needs, but a girl fitting within those visually is what gets them there first, and what determines how much disappointment they’ll tolerate before getting rid of her. Pretty harpies who lay there like a dead fish create stronger orgasms in most men than less pretty girls who can suck like champs. It’s just biology. Long term, stable relationships wherein people get to see each other every day, and stuff didn’t happen that lead to a lot of death and instability, are a relatively new thing for humans.
The good news is that when there’s love that goes beyond the looks, it can work for the long term, but the hook is the beauty, how ever much or little of it there is.
I got a nice lesson in both the fact of beauty being the pull and a guy’s visual senses usually being an accurate gauge from my boyfriend. Having been a sort of fan of mine for 8 years, I figured he must know a lot about me. Wrong. He actually knew very little, but just thinks I’m pretty. Over time, the more he learns, the more compatible he realizes we are, but for 8 years, what got him there was almost exclusively visual. He didn’t even know what kind of music I liked until last year.
So once guys get their head far enough out of the manjaws and siliconed crones of Hollywood, they should trust their instincts. Your penis and your eyes can tell you most of what you need to know about a woman almost immediately.
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50% is beauty, and the other 50% is comprised of all the other things you mentioned, especially temperament and personality. I agree, beauty alone is not enough to keep a man. But it does get the ball rolling though.
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You can’t wake the dead. If the dude doesn’t wanna hear it, this unsolicited criticism is gonna drive him further into “I’m a man I’ll do what I want!” type shit…even though anyone with half a brain sees where this is heading.
Gotta pay in blood and crawl thru the mud to learn this game. Unfortunately it’s when guys like this get ass raped in court that they realize they held the value before the marriage, which is the way it shoulda stayed.
HOlla!
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IT’S quite easy to simultaneously be a brother and a cousin. I’ve got a coworker who’s father banged all the sisters in a family.
[CH: Paging HBDchick…]
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Damn that is a brutal fucking graph. Hard evidence for the carousel.
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Worse when you consider that something like this is self-reported. Guess what that means for each gender…
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I’m shocked none of the over 30s dumb bitches have started their “but he’ll get to enjoy being a husband and a father” routine yet. Where’s the token dried up whores who all think that inane bullshit overrides youth, beauty, and feeling of cumming inside an amazingly hot young female? I know you’re all out there…CH hasn’t exposed every last one of you to be vaporized in the sunlight just yet. Or has he?
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I mean, she’s 36…the whole “being a father” thing is a long shot at best, even if he wants that.
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It just doesn’t seem that men want children till they’re older (thirties/forties). At that point, he may have missed out. Right now he may not care, but later he might regret it.
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No stereotype reader it’s the womenzz who don’t want kids in their 20s. That’s their me me me carousel time.
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How many names/gravatars do you have? And why?
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ya think yea the voluntary payout of mucho extra support to a foreign woman who doesn’t like sex and is divorced from and has them living well might be too much
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It plagues both men and women. it’s a sign of the times. People aren’t in hurry these days to have kids and assume responsibility.
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They usually mean being a father to their bastard spawn.
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Yep. Pregnancy at 36 is considered, I shit you not, a “geriatric” pregnancy. Any mother older than 32ish is considered “of advanced maternal age.” This shit is actually written in the gold-standard textbooks on obstetrics.I fucking love the old-school reproductive endocrinologists who wrote the textbooks on this subject before the age of PC culture and the kowtowing to the hamsterbaters. Books written today inevitably soften the language so as to be more ththenthitive.
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This should be shouted from the rooftops!
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“I fucking love the old-school reproductive endocrinologists who wrote the textbooks on this subject before the age of PC culture and the kowtowing to the hamsterbaters. Books written today inevitably soften the language so as to be more ththenthitive.”
Not really, Books written today reflect advances in medicine, so many things with human biology that were true then, aren’t true now because of medical intervention. Let’s face it: Man wants to conquer death. This is how it’s done in the beginning – with small steps like making infertile women be able to bear children.
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For a guy who is so logical when you describe how a man feels about a woman’s beauty you give me the shivers. That was some beautiful insight.
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Yes, sometimes his prose is just swoon-worthy.
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Gay
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Seems like Zombie Shane isn’t around today. If they are both white he should get her pregnant to keep the race going.
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” …You see, a man falls in love with a woman’s beauty. He does not fall in love with her smarts, her job, her credentials, her family connections, her employability, her future time orientation, or her ability to stand against the patriarchy … ”
… … …
Being able to stand against the patriarchy is one of the less desirable things in a woman ( Other than physical ugliness) .
[CH: I snuck that in there for the make benefit of the manboobs in our midst.]
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In my ( arrogant?) opinion, It was also a good idea to include it because it makes fun of feminists,
” standing against the patriarchy” might be one of feminist’s proudest accomplishments but it is also what makes millions of women miserable as most men , as far as long term relationships are concerned, stay far away from such women.
Husband or boyfriend it does not matter, in her eyes you are the patriarchy, thus the enemy and she will stand against you, count on it.
those women end up alone and lonely and end up hating men even more.
And because they are no good for long term relationships, they are more likely to be used for pump and dumps by PUAs….which also makes them hate men more in the end.
I love the irony of it all.
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ATTENTION men 55-70, outdoorsy, at least 5’9″ and handsome….the 77 year old MARTHA STEWART is single and looking:
http://www.businessinsider.com/martha-stewarts-new-matchcom-profile-2013-4
If you’re intimidated by a woman who is financially independent, please don’t respond.
HOlla!
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Think she’s gonna show me her prison tats if I message her?
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I would ❤ to see a successful trolling attempt from someone on this broad
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I think Uncle Elmer is in that special age range, he can probably do it convincingly.
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What about digging for dirt on the woman’s past? She’s got to have a skeleton or two in the closet that could end the relationship.
What about tying the brother to the couch and forcing him to watch the “Seinfeld” episode in which Elaine is dumped by the doc after he passes his board exams because he knows he can move up?
The suggestion about the pro has a *lot* of merit. Maybe a trip to Vegas is in order. There are escorts there in the 9-10 range who can easily help out. If that experience won’t change his mind, perhaps an accidental pic sent to the woman will.
I feel bad for this guy because I’ve known guys in the same situation. Not pretty.
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So you’re saying, locate the ex-husband?
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prob a good idea he will prob be glad to give you the dirt on her if there is any
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Hire a private investigator for a full background check. That should dig up a lot of her skeletons.
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He’s doomed. She’ll probably decide she doesn’t want to work. And like everyone who sits on their ass all day will suffer from existential angst which will be blamed on the marriage, leading to a divorce. But she’ll have plenty of time to run up the credit card and go lawyer shopping while he works 80 hours a week.
I can sympathize – my brother almost married a single mom while in the military. He realized what a psycho she was just in time – when she started urging the kid to call him “dad” and went totally bananas on him for “sleeping in too late”.(he did 2nd shift/overnight work in the service)
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Most men over 25 have a very weak sex drive: they don’t eat well; they don’t train with weights; they sleep poorly; they’re not engaged in competitive sports; & etc. They are suffering en masse from subclinical hypogonadism.
As a result they often make *mysterious* choices when it comes to female company. I know many men of the above troll description, who should give a damn about whether or not their soon-to-be wives will have even a soupçon of fuckworthiness three years down the line, but who simply don’t care. Young men everywhere are increasingly feminized — so none of this should be surprising.
A man nearing forty who hungers for prime teen trim and will delightedly fuck an 18 year old high-school girl is considered, even in our supposedly corrupt coastal cities, scarcely less than a lunatic. He will be shamed by (excited) ladies and gawked at by his male associates. If he needed to make money in business he would be obliged to refrain from such innocent pleasures. It’s gotten that bad.–
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“Young men everywhere are increasingly feminized”
you’re so right. i don’t know if that is the entire story, but something big has changed in the last 10-15 years. i am, from the perspective of myself back then, an OLD man. i look realistically about 33, but i am 40. even fessing up my age i have no problem meeting and sexing girls under 25.
i actually got extremely overweight about 5 years ago because i had no negative feedback from women. i still got laid by women hot enough to preserve on film when i was 360 pounds (i am tall but COME ON). marriage makes zero sense anymore to me, at least til i’m 50 or so and want to risk it to have kids. pre-nup– yes.
what i don’t get, is what the hell is up with the guys in the 22-28 range, they’re supplicating, ambitionless, poor, lazy, etc. they are fun to chat up in order to meet their gal pals, and i appreciate their efforts to let me get laid by their contemporaries, but good god something’s deeply wrong out there.
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Re: i look realistically about 33, but i am 40. even fessing up my age i have no problem meeting and sexing girls under 25.
Inspiration! 🙂
I suffered from pathological social anxiety till about 29 (I’m 32, people guess me at 21-26) and am gradually growing out of it now. Still haven’t converted that into much dating success, but I’m getting better at chatting women up, maintaining friendships, going on casual dates, etc. I *hope* when I’m your age I can still pick up the under-25 set, and I’ll be a lot better at game then than now.
I was chatting up a cheerleader at the college (!) who works at the coffeeshop yesterday, I’m going to try to get her number next time I see her at work.
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you’ll be great, you woke up before me, and younger dudes are getting progressively more stunted unfortunately (for society, not for us).
most everything here is gold if you follow it, but internally fixing yourself is the tough stuff. just don’t let anything or anyone get you down, and don’t ever think you are on your last option. you’re not.
also girls at work can be tough-ish so don’t let it get to you, just ALWAYS BE PICKING UP. everywhere. be that happy-unflappable-and-comfortable-with-women guy all the time. tease cashiers, waitresses, all of ’em, everywhere. some will love it, some have friends, none of them hate it. and you’ll just feel more and more comfortable and get more and more options.
and this is old but still all decent stuff http://www.fastseduction.com/guide/
go go go brother
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Re: you’ll be great, you woke up before me, and younger dudes are getting progressively more stunted unfortunately (for society, not for us).
Hahaha well thanks. I think that it’s true younger guys are getting more stunted. Sperm counts are declining, young dudes are increasingly out of shape (evidenced by the fact the military is having to lower fitness standards), and girls increasingly complain that porn addictions are making guys listless in bed.
Re: just don’t let anything or anyone get you down, and don’t ever think you are on your last option. you’re not.
Yeah, I’m working on the self-confidence. And my ‘last option’, if it comes to that, is going to be to go overseas and find a hot young wife when I turn 45 or so. I’ve got another 10 years to try playing the field here. Just knowing that I have the option makes me a little more comfortable with myself. I fucked up with this beautiful 20-yr old last summer (still a good friend) because I got too clingy and not physically assertive enough. I’m not making that mistake again. I’m also working on my body- taking creatine and trying to gain some weight.
Re: tease cashiers, waitresses, all of ‘em, everywhere. some will love it, some have friends, none of them hate it.
So, the issue I have with waitresses and coffeeshop girls is they’re paid to be nice to you, so it’s hard to tell if they’re interested. I was just chatting up a cheerleader at the college who works in my favorite coffeeshop, and I think I’ll ask for her number when I see her. Even though asking out coffeeshop girls is not my thing, I’ll make an exception in this case- you can’t say no to a cheerleader, right?
Re: and eventually her friends were asking me if i liked her and why i wasn’t more flirty, she really liked me, etc (??? insanity).
That’s awesome. Can you go to spring breaks when you’re in your mid-30s and not have it be ‘creepy’/awkward? I’m at a huge university (grad student, soon to be postdoc) and probably will be surrounded by college girls for the rest of my life, but I usually try to meet them through volunteer work, when I manage to get myself invited to a party, etc. Spring break would be awesome (like I said, I had *terrible* social anxiety in college and never partied/went on break very much) but I’d be hesitant about being older. If you think it’s ok, though, I might try it.
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last note– i went to ASU spring break at rocky point when i was 38, i was honest about my age, and met a fantastic 23 year old. when i openly groped her fake breasts (we were discussing them) she said (smiling) “i don’t know why you think you can just do that” and eventually her friends were asking me if i liked her and why i wasn’t more flirty, she really liked me, etc (??? insanity). i don’t think until that point that i realized how open the world was. get after it 🙂
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If you think it’s bad trying to find a good woman in that twenties-range these days, trust me, it’s just as hard as a mid-twenties woman to find a good man. Because yeah, the ones my age are all supplicating, lazy, shiftless, obsessed with childish bullshit, etc. They’ve been raised to either outright hate their masculinity or think it’s a negative in the dating scene… it’s sort of sad, and a serious turn-off.
Eh, my first serious boyfriend was 17 years older than me. I’ll probably end up marrying a guy in the 10 years older range. My generation is fucked. The infantilization of America is cutting both ways. It’d be pointless to even try to look for something meaningful with somebody in that age group.
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I can’t understand this. They must be abusing themselves terribly to turn into what the Japs call “grass eaters”. I’m 31 and my sex drive is still going full blast.
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corvinus,
It’s hard to understand why any man would willingly live without the fiercest interest in snatch. You can roll a bocce ball and chomp a slimy cigar and smell the roses when your sack is gray, not before.
Now, corvinus, tell me the truth: do you blanch at the idea of a 40 year old man sticking it deep into sophomoric 16, the age of sexual consent in the majority of our great United States?
Yes or no.–
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I’d recommend everyone *stay away* from 16 year olds, or girls who say they’re 16. If they say they’re 16, they might just be a mature looking 14-15, in which your life is over and you can look forward to spending the rest of it on a sex-offender list.
I’m a fan of relationships between mature men and *young adult* women (i.e. 18+) but the age of consent laws exist for a reason, the age of majority exists for a reason, and people who try to date under 18 are *playing with fire*. (This goes even more if you’re overseas: as of the early 2000s, it is *very very illegal* for any American to sleep with anyone under 18 in a foreign country, regardless of what the age of consent is there. I worked for three years in Africa, and all of us were repeatedly warned about the new law).
Don’t say you weren’t warned.
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The reason the no-under-18-sex laws exist in the USA is due to a coalition of tradcons and aging old snatch trying to get men who are alpha enough to appeal to young women thrown in jail.
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church
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@Hector,
You are confused regarding the provisions of The PROTECT Act, which is the relevant law for US citizens traveling in foreign countries. The law criminalizes all *commercial sex* between American citizens and foreign nationals under the age of 18; however, an American citizen may have *non-commercial* sex with any individual 16 or over, if the age of consent in that country is 16 or above.
I encourage you to read the Act in its entirety. Start here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PROTECT_Act_of_2003
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N/A,
You might be right. I worked for about three years as a Peace Corps volunteer in an African country. Our supervisors warned us *very* strongly about the legal penalties for having sex with under-18 girls, and at least seemed to imply it was illegal under American law, whether commercial or not. After reading the law it seems like you’re right and they were wrong, though. The legal age there was either 14 or 17, I’ve heard conflicting things.
I did know an American schoolteacher there who was investigated for possibly having an underage girlfriend, but they couldn’t prove that sex took place before her 18th birthday, so nothing happened.
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Further.
An American citizen whose primary legal residence is in a state in which the AOC is either 16 or 17 and who finds himself in the fortunate and precarious situation of staring down the prospect of game and delicious, legal sub-18 cunt, should refrain from any contact with said sweet pussy unless he is willing to go to the following extravagant and necessary lengths to protect himself from our misandrist laws and corrupt prosecutors, to wit:
1. The girl in question must obtain *notarized* copies of both her birth certificate and passport. This should be done by the notary who handles municipal legal matters in your shared jurisdiction. Without these essential documents, there will be no feasting on legal teen ass.
2. The girl in question must obtain a complete and flawless STD profile — this protects both parties in case things get sufficiently hot and bothered.
3. You must never, under any circumstances, communicate with said girl by any means other than speech in person. Although inconvenient, this seemingly extreme measure protects you from creative, misandrist prosecutors, who will attempt to criminalize even the most innocent of electronic exchanges. Passenger pigeon constitutes, for some, an acceptable risk.
4. It should go without saying that neither you nor the girl can come within a mile or any camera, of any kind, until she is over 18. Any pictures or filming over the age of 18 must always be accompanied by a timestamped proof of date in the form of a physical newspaper.
If the above requirements seem onerous, I can only shrug and ask: when was the last time you stuck over a half foot of veiny, aging, granitic cock into the splendid soft butteriness of legal teenage cunt, ass and mouth?
Enjoy responsibly. Lol.–
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Now, corvinus, tell me the truth: do you blanch at the idea of a 40 year old man sticking it deep into sophomoric 16, the age of sexual consent in the majority of our great United States?
Yes or no.–
No. And I live in an 18-as-age-of-consent state, so it seems like more of a forbidden pleasure to me.
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I’m sure stupid feminist identity politics play a role, but lets be honest. 16-17 year old should not be having sex, they’re not mentally developed enough to really make up their own minds about whether they want it. hence, statutory rape laws.
If you’re into super young girls, just wait two years till they’re 18, or else stick to dating young looking 18-21 year olds. I’m all about the 18-21 year old demographic.
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They have clitorises, and they want it.
What other animal in nature waits anywhere near as long to start having sex?! You’re being ridiculous.
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Dirk Johanson,
Morally, I disapprove of 16-17 yr olds having sex (with anyone, but especially with adults old enough to know better).
Even if you don’t agree with me on the moral question, though, you’re foolish to be endorsing underage sex on a public blog. Think, man, the government could be reading this thread and figure out who you are.
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So they read it and figure it out? I’m not sure I’ve ever had sex with an underage girl in my life. 16 is legal in most states, btw. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_North_America
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Good answer.
Your comment above regarding the unholy alliance between “tradcon” dupes and wizened femcunts is also well observed.
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I’m really, totally unimpressed with this meddling brother. At no point does he state why his brother is interested in the woman. So either Dr. Brother is an 80 IQ functioning retard, NOT-NOT-NOT, or there is a lot to this story that the meddling brother does not want to reveal. If kid brother wants to schtupp a tired broken 5, that’s his business and his life. Older brother is being manipulative and disingenuous at best, and deceitful at worst, in clamoring for help without providing even a minimalist portrait of the real situation.
I’m fine with people blowing up their own lives. I’ve had it with other people attempting to save people from themselves. These are the real tyrants. Some bimbo doing the doctor hustle is a lot less dangerous than a meddler who wants to steer and manage the socially naive.
Meddling Brother isn’t helping Dr. Brother by getting into his shit without any information.
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Assuming this is not a troll, my guess from everything that I have learned reading this blog is your best means of curing him is to get him balls deep inside a hot girl under 25 ASAP. She needs to at least have a decent face and an hour glass figure. This will almost certainly be more effective than trying to talk him out of it, which will probably just make him mad.
You’re his brother – not his mom. You shouldn’t have any qualms about doing this.
Now, the question is how to do it. My guess would be to take him somewhere full of hot girls like Charleston or New Orleans for a long weekend.
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i have never banged more girls than in Charleston SC. 6/1 ratio under 30, and over 30 they can’t compete. Soooooo aggressive….
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on my way to sc
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my take she helped him through school and as a man he feels compelled to her like he owes her something
also it doesn’t say marriage it says living together big difference unless they moving to a state that has the automatic marriage cohabitation shit
as the brother look that up and give him the info he needs if it is
I married an older woman but with the stipulation that I get to also can marry more than one so yea seems to be workin out so far
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the key is to keep your options open and under no circumstance promise shit that is dam near impossible to do
maybe some cut out for only one person their whole life
I ain’t one although my first marriage was only one but did pass on a lot of pussy
and in the end she had no problem leaving me at a bad point in my life when 3 years earlier I had told her to gtfo since she wasen’t living up to what was in the marriage vows the ones I made up but with her crying and calling my sister and being caught in the man up thing and you are married for life bla bla bla
funny in the end the ex was not worried bout that shit just worried bout popping out a kid so she disappeared and had one
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course my family been trying to save me from current ho
and ahh it has gone on deaf ears although yea not making long term commitments and not promising shit
plus I have passive death wish so there is that
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she crossed line yesterday though so yea packed her shit
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alpha omega beta who knows she made me laugh anyway
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I didn’t post it to the tube bye the way he he he
8 years younger
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damn you i just watched most of that whole video 🙂
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Best thing to do, is make the dumb ass write up the best prenup money can buy – one preferrably, with a fixed dollar pay out.
‘cuz she’s going to take him to the freakin’ cleaners in a few years
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Law school dropout here. A prenup might not help. She could petition the group to set aside the prenup. It’s called recision and she could say she was coerced into signing or didn’t read it. I’ve also heard of huge power differences being used as an excuse to cancel a prenup – say, a surgeon making 260K a year married to someone with no money.
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Depends entirely on the state you live in. Regardless of enforceability, better to have one.
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Negative. Prenups are useless now. Recently a Brooklyn court turned an executed prenup into a “he said, she said” situation, because she said that she was coerced (no evidence or witnesses). Court ruled for her. Forget the prenup fiction. You will be fighting for your life if wifey says you promised her something (something that no one can evidence), and now it’s a fraudulently induced contract. Forget it. Prenups are meaningless.
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You are clearly not a lawyer. Please re-read my comment. Enforceability varies wildly by state. They have and continue to benefit clients of my firm (in my state) to this very day, in fact. Furthermore, the practical benefit of having it hang over your wife’s head like the Sword of Damocles outweighs the relatively insignificant cost.
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You are correct. I am not a lawyer. I have also litigated one divorce, and then re-litigated it three times, and now I am in the fourth re-litigation in the third venue. And when I ask my lawyer, WTF?, he notes that if a woman has the money to spend on permanent war, no court will refuse her.
Your sword of Damocles presumes that the woman cannot litigate permanently. Some women have enough money to do so. No court will refuse them.
Any man who trusts in a prenup or the fairness of the family law system is a man who’d better marry someone without education and money.
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Full-stop. You are giving bad, ill-informed advice. First of all, don’t get married. However, if you do, a per-nup is more liable to help than hurt. I’m sorry our had a rough go at it. However, your anecdote doesn’t change the fact that pre-nups can help lots of dudes. The court system in most (prob all) states does favor women. However, with a good pre-nup and lawyer, you will be more likely to survive a divorce intact.
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Felder disagrees with you also: “precedent setting”:
“’It resets the bar. It’s an entirely different landscape out there in regard to prenups. I’ve been inundated with calls. Spouses who are challenging pre-nups now have a leg to stand on.’… Longtime divorce lawyer Raoul Felder, who has never overturned a prenup in his three-decade career and has no involvement in the Petrakis case, called the decision “really rare” and precedent setting.”
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So re-read it yourself, and please tell somebody else what he may or may not post. I’m happy for you in your state, wherever that is. Not everybody lives in your state and your issuing blanket bromides about a collapsing firewall against divorce theft doesn’t seem very sage to me. Prenups mitigate risk if you are willing to defend yourself in litigation until the ex- is broke. Prenups have a probability, presently declining (see above), of fulfilling their purpose. Good for the lawyers, not so good for the citizens. Prenups are not insurance contracts or get out of jail free cards. As in all aspects of family law, if one party has the resources to litigate permanently, the courts will allow it.
Source:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/wife_gets_pre_nope_GZ47RjoKcu4xEDubydBtLJ
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Lol. No
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It’s probably a moot point since the brother would likely balk at the idea of a prenup.
And even if the prenup was in place there’s a lot of shenanigans a woman with a lot of time on her hands can pull on a beta husband who works constantly. EG, running up the credit cards. Or my favorite(my mother’s friend actually did this over the span a decade) getting cash back on debit purchases and stashing it in a safe deposit box.
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If you are a real bro for your bro you do the dirty work yourself. Seduce her and fuck her hard, tape it and watch it with your family.
Take the blame and be proud. Later he will thank you.
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I strongly believe that men who falls in love for older women than themselves are borderline gays. He wants to be in a submissive relation. Was he raised without a father? No offence is intended. I have tried to give red pill-knowledge to 2 acquaintances of mine. It’s a lost cause.
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I’ve always suspected it’s because the guy’s searching for a mother figure.
You see this a lot with White Trash and Black couples – the woman is often older, fatter, and taller than the man. It’s grotesque to behold.
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Or maybe the world is so messed up that it’s difficult to find a woman his age who isn’t screwed up…or maybe he’s in love.
People who live outside the mainstream have already usually dealt with the fact they are never going to be acceptable to it. Some decide to just do whatever they want, and so long as a woman passes the boner test and has the right mentality, she’s in.
Just like I was told here “it’s not about deserve…” it’s not about what’s healthy or what a psychologist would deem ideal either. So long as it’s not harming anyone, it’s better to let people go about their business in peace.
If not, you run a high risk of getting your ass handed to you. If it bothers you, just walk away. When you start trying to regulate male sexuality, you become a feminist.
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Must you comment on every single Goddamn post?
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Is your mouse broken?
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Nah, my ex-wife was a 27 yo non-virgin Indian Muslim 8 who was the hottest thing I ever saw or had when I was 22.
She was freaked out because in her own culture she had almost no chance of getting married, and risked disgrace if she did to one of her own kind. So she got her hands on AFC me. Damn she was hot, though. Nice big booty, too.
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Ask him to lend you a large sum of money, due in about ten years. This way, he’ll have some seed money after she takes him to the cleaners in divorce court.
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How ’bout he just tells her that he’s on that Jason Collins bullshit?
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/jason-collins-former-fiancee-carolyn-moos-had-no-170001023.html
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” Just inform him that there are hot 21 year old women he can meet just about anywhere who would swoon for his surgeon swagger. ”
My experience with betas and enlightening them to benefits of younger/tighter is always sour grapes. They’ll say that 19, 21, 24 year olds are stupid and immature. I’ll say they’re all stupid and immature no matter what age. They sheepishly laugh, not fully understanding that I’m serious. I personally don’t care if they suck with women. I just don’t want them being retards around me. Incidentally, these are friends of friends / friends of family that are usually around.
[CH: Infantilization of women. 22 is adult age. Do these manboobs think 22 year old women in, say, 1930, were incapable of making mature decisions about their lives?]
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This seems like a learned response, someone actually mentioned it in the HuffPo comments that he think Single Mothers are more mature and put together and the like. Somehow picking the wrong man to have children with doesn’t factor into that equation.
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Haha, infantilization is right. I love how the same feminists who fight for women’s autonomy and agency are quick to call women in their 20s little girls who are incapable of making adult decisions for themselves when it comes to dating.
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They’ll say that 19, 21, 24 year olds are stupid and immature.
Wrong. 18 y.o. girls are sometimes stupid (by female standards) and immature. But by the time they’re 20 and 21, they’re all woman. Ten years later, they’ve had a kid or two and a history of a boyfriend, if they’re not married by then.
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Women are at their dumbest and most immature between ages 35 and 45. There is at least one study showing that they begin going backwards cognitively at 23.
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For comparison’s sake, search “Cesc Fabregas and Daniella Semaan.” As usual, of course, Daily Mail delivers.
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Shocking stuff.Even more shocking than Pique and Sharika.
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Heartiste,
I’m sure numerous readers here would appreciate a post on how to possibly game the biggest challenge of our lives: the narcissist batshit crazy cluster b mother.
Some background: my mother is codependent on my ass cuz pops worked too much building and maintaining his empire. We became fully enmeshed with eachother and I didnt realize this until I turned 20. Physical abuse growing up was rampant with bloody noses caused by violent backhand with knuckles smashing my face. I can count over 500 plus face impacts. Screaming, kicking, hair pulling, vicious biting into my arms was the norm. This crazy monster would sometimes even put a knife to her own throat threatening to kill herself when Id fight back.
Now I’m 30 years old…havent lived at home for years but STILL get with her shit. I got two days worth of verbal shaming because I didnt go to palm sunday service with her. She goes full retard crazy anytime I’m in a LTR. Its amazing what a little extra wealth can do to a cluster b woman.
For the record she is extremely attractive for a woman aged 53. Married to my dad at age 19 (from a small greek village puritanical norms virgin or beat downs) so she shames all our gfs as whores and prostitutes. Constantly holds the estate over our heads (basically we must do exactly as she says or we will get written out of the will). I’ve basically written off the inheritance as a loss due to her craziness my dad is 61 has heart problems will croak by 75 at the latest she will live forever as all cluster bs do.
I still want some relationship with my brother and dad…just how to go about gaming this…
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I’d be interested in seeing that post too. My solution was to just stay far away from mine.
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gaming a b is a bitch and you don’t have the skills right now. either page yareally, or follow my gravitar back to my place and leave me a message with a blind email addy.
understand that in order for this to work, you are going to have to get emotionally sadistic and not just walk from bad behavior (alpha), but punish it (sigma)
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I know I’m not ready but I’ve made big progress. I dont get crazy anymore when she bites and walk away but punishing?? Only way I can see how is by avoidance. but shoot im open to suggestions from the manosphere I already know what mainstream says and that is to limit contant email is greatestbeta@gmail
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My advice would be to not accept any money from your mother. That is how she is controlling you. Other than that, she can’t. If she insults your girlfriend, tell her that you aren’t going to listen to that, and walk away.
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I had a STR with a 36 when i was 28. She was pretty fit and the age gap didnt scream out then like it would have now, some 15 years later. BUT, if hes in love, meh.
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does he actually want kids? because he should know the risks he’s taking, she won’t have the first til 37, and if he wants a couple she’ll likely be recovered around 40 for the second and still almost unbearable to approach with anything resembling an erection. he is taking literal risks with his children’s well-being by even thinking about this.
i don’t necessarily care what he does with his own life, he might even think he’s happy. i’ve been there. and talking someone down is thankless and rarely works. but any kids are faultless in the situation and he’s just raising their chances of being less than they can be. and also forcing himself to have them immediately because she’s on her last eggs.
he needs to ‘man up’ and be a father to his unborn children and give them the best chance at being successful. by being built out of VERY fresh eggs.
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Doctors are mostly terrible with women. How many docs do you know with hot wives? Most docs are nerdy, controlling yet needy as hell
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The one thing you can do is get him a source of fresh young vaginas. It will be hard, because once a man is getting vagina, he rarely thinks clearly until the source of vaginas is so abundant that he doesn’t need to think about it to get it. Buy him hookers if you cannot talk women into meating him.
Or, fuck him. I know he is your brother/cousin(could happen…same mother but she had sex with two brothers), so abandoning him may be hard. But, encourage him to set up a recovery fund when he decides divorce is a better move than staying with a wallbanger.
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Actually beauty is important for hardons , but a man falls in love if a woman fucks him, fucks on demand, and never says she’s too tired.
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One way you can help him:
Sleep with his woman and show him pictures.
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Off topic:
http://www.eutimes.net/2012/07/feminist-charged-with-hate-crime-for-helping-muslim-woman-with-groceries/
Note how the article says nothing about who is doing all the work outside. Or how the husband could just as well had stay home after a days work and let the wife do the shopping by herself.
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she is under spending slavery.
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http://www.inquisitr.com/642938/pink-reformed-slut-says-she-is-reclaiming-the-word/
The hamsters. They are running wild.
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When I was dating a milf years ago one thought instantly ruined it for me, and that was, in 8 years she will be 50. Point out to the dumb bastard that by the time he gets his license she will be 50 in 10 years. By the time he is successfull and out of debt she will be 50. If she is 36 now, she is on the downslide fertility wise, so he will never be able to have a family of his own if he sticks with her. He will be the laughing stock of the doctor community because his troll of a wife will be with him at all the events while all the other docs are struttin around with hot poon. Nobody at the office will respect him because all the hot nurses will know his wife is a troll. The only chance you have is if everyone mocks him, not her, but mocks him incessantly about his warthog of a gf. When your with him and see a ugly girl at the hot dog stand, say, not ugly enough for my brother. It has to be an all out assult on him. In 10 years when he’s banging the hot 22yr old nurse he will be thanking you.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kelly-m-flanagan/a-daddys-letter-to-his-li_b_3185190.html?utm_hp_ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false#sb=1815102,b=facebook
Good god. All of these wishes for his daughter are fine and well, as long as “the man” said faggot father is referring to is alpha enough to keep her hamster spinning and thinking all of these perfect thoughts.
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Take him and sit in the gallery of a divorce court (Trial Courts of Limited Jurisdiction) and watch the proceedings.
Just to sit and watch for half a day or more.
That may awaken the sleeping giant
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that’s the ticket right there
every man should go to divorce court and regular court and if you have kids they should be brought to watch the proceeding so any illusion of fair justice or whatever can be dispelled and the importance of money can be ingrained
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really you should definitely take your daughters too at least to regular court
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I Wont Have My Daughter Bringing a Black Man Into this House Until…
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Alternatively.
Sit him down in front of a laptop and show him this
Sex Lies and Rinsing Guys
or this dudes shows have nuggets spread throughout
Corey Holcomb 5150 Show 4-16-13
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I don’t blame this man, I have a friend who did the same thing.
Just goes to show how utterly vapid, ditzy and useless modern young girls are that a high ranking surgeon would gladly chose a woman hitting the wall over a younger prettier Facebook junky with more notches than a fat man’s belt.
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over a younger prettier Facebook junky with more notches than a fat man’s belt.
And you don’t think the 36 y.o. “love” of his life hasn’t more notches than three fat men’s belts? Don’t kid yourself.
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I’m not justifying it just saying the way it is.
A mature desperate woman on a good wicket knows how to play the pied piper, attending to a mans needs can be a very powerful motivator.
Of course we know how it ends, eventually he will be led over a cliff.
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If she hasn’t been single long, she probably doesn’t have that high a notch count. Whatever her history is though, he needs to know before he gets too involved. I suppose that is one good thing about us old broads…we have a track record a guy can look at and see what’s likely to happen.
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Ain’t nothing good with a record.
For marriage; only a virgin. Can’t grasp why a man would marry a girl that had a lot of dicks in her. I like my pussy fresh.
Snoop said it back in the 90’s “we don’t love them hoes”. That’s the spirit. Use the sluts for fucking when you are young, and snatch a fresh 16-17 year old from a conservative family when you are ready to settle down.
Man, I love being alpha
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Most men are not alpha enough, and of those who are, few are equipped these days to handle the responsibility of raising a wife, which is what you’re doing when you take one a just-of-age woman. Chances are that unless what you mean by “conservative” is raised in a village somewhere not in the U.S. she is not ready to be anybody’s wife.
You also can’t do it by yourself. You need a family (or family like social group) of responsible, loyal, and capable women to help her, especially when the kids come.
So if you’re going to do that in the U.S. then do it in Utah. The place has its problems, but it is a very easy place even for a non Mormon of whatever ethnicity to create a family like group of helpful folks who won’t judge you or her, or encourage her to do stupid things.
The religion may be a little crazy, but there’s something about Mormon culture that makes for fast friends once they know you’re not stupid. The place is a survivalist paradise.
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Very practical advice: Hire a high class prostitute to seduce him and not tell him she’s a working girl.
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Completely OT, but CH, have you ever been on Tumblr? Found this gem tonight:
http://kvothetheraving.tumblr.com/post/49315418776/so-probably-most-of-you-were-around-when-i-did
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If she has a superb body and loves to have sex often, the odds of finding a way to save that man are extremely low.
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I think the surgeon is Indian. The older woman is a white woman.
The brother/cousin mistake: Some Indians view cousins as something like siblings. There’s even a term: cousin-brother.
The wording of the second email just sounds FOBy to me.
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I am pretty sure that this (Indian) surgeon is in love. I have seen this kind of thing happen before.
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Doesn’t matter how hot she is….. she’s 36. And rapidly declining RIGHT NOW. The brother is 28 and HASN’T EVEN BEGUN TO REALIZE HIS VALUE AND POTENTIAL!!!….. let alone his “dreams”. He’s got at least another 6-8 years before he WAKES UP and figures out that (right now) he is only BEGINNING to ramp up. This 36 year old wants to snag him into a life contract BEFORE he enjoys what lies ahead – preferably BEFORE he figures it out. In 10 years he will be facepalming himself into the bottom of a vodka bottle wondering what he was thinking. Even at 38, his SMV is still on the up curve if he keeps himself together. But that will NOT happen if he puts a ring on it.
Still need a good reason to avoid this disaster??
You don’t need to take MY word for it:
Here’s essential listening for every man:
Ignore it at your peril.
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It’s not such a disaster if she’s southern old-school and when she gets to a point where she knows she can’t meet his needs alone, she’s willing to call for backup. 😉
Nietzsche described how such a relationship would work. Older woman gets with younger man to make sure he gets what he needs to prevent self loathing, and provide a stable, nurturing environment and incredible sex. The now older younger man comes into his own as the older woman is declining, and picks up a younger woman to make some babies within a reasonable time frame, and provide her with a stable environment. When younger woman is older and older man is declining, she picks up a younger man…and the cycle continues.
I could see this working out well with the current situation except for one thing: multiple generations of women are now overly entitled. If it was just a one generation trend, this would be a way to right it, but because almost all western women between 16 and 55 are badly brainwashed, we have a problem.
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god dam those woman just talk and talk and don’t hear shit
but wtf he says they can still get the roto rooter guy that’s messed up to those guys should use mcd’s guy as an example
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I’ll be the voice of dissent here. He’s a beta. A surgeon yeah, but a beta none the less. Unless he’s really, really into self-improvement and takes the chances of being rejected 100’s of times seriously, he’s never gonna be a player. And only a player is going to be banging 21 year olds. If he is to play the beta provider game, just how many 21 year olds are looking to get married to a 31 year old surgeon?
If he hasn’t gotten laid during college (slightly more excusable with the workload of a pre-med student) or during high school, he just won’t have the charm and je ne sais qua it takes to approach and bang younger women. He probably only sees older women at his job and happy hours, and to him, she’s probably the best he can do. The alternative is to keep grinding away at his job and meet someone else later on, who may possibly be similar in SMV to his old chick anyway.
I don’t know just how much having a good (boring) job adds to your SMV these days. Its definitely not as much as it used to. On the other hand, he’d be more interesting if he’s been to jail or something.
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This is exactly right. What I said. He’s a beta slob. Male MDs are beta slobs. The most recent one I met–friend of friend–is a slob who just married a 42 year old (his age). Nothing great about a surgeon from hot women’s perspective. (different for jooz)
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Eh, it depends. *Some* younger women are into guys with nice steady incomes. (In my experience that’s more common for working class girls who need to worry about money more). Others, not so much.
It’s definitely *harder* to date 18-21 girls when you’re in your 30s, but I think it’s possible, I’ve seen it happen. And this guy’s only 28 (four years younger than me).
Re: If he hasn’t gotten laid during college (slightly more excusable with the workload of a pre-med student) or during high school, he just won’t have the charm and je ne sais qua it takes to approach and bang younger women.
As you yourself say, self-improvement helps with that. I’m counting on it to help me. And I don’t think a surgeon is a boring job, it’s certainly more interesting than an accountant.
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he just needs to hire some professional help
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Btw I forgot to mention he’s a brain surgeon and drives a $180,000 Aston Martin. Doesn’t matter. He’s a beta and married a 42-year-old never-married totally plain Jane 3.
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Do not intervene. You will lose yiur relationship with your brother.
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brother or cousin? keep it consistent
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Yeah, its bullshit. Coz I always type ‘cousin’ when talkin ’bout my bro…
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Get your brother balls deep in a hot girl under 25. He’ll snap out of it.
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http://socialpathology.blogspot.com.au/2013/05/a-mans-socialism.html
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Im a greater beta looking to become alpha. Iv only just started reading this blog and have noticed that im not actually learning enough info on how to become an alpha. Most of the posts wont help be bece an alpha. Does anyone know any other websites that can help me.
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read the archives, start from the beginning and read forward
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You seem to imply that being with an older guy is a problem or not as good; that’s very silly.
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The only problem with getting with a much older man is that regardless of his desires, erectile dysfunction can happen. If he’s had a stressful life and done not so great things to cope with that like smoking, not eating well, and the like, it will probably start at between 30 and 45, and get to the point of not being able to shag someone tight by 50.
This is fine for a woman who doesn’t really like intercourse, but if you do, it’s going to be the end of your sex life with him.
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the old contractors working in Iraq were starting families at over 60
although maybe the jobs did self select for older men with balls but really it didn’t seem like any of them were having problems at all
thinking about it they were the ones popping out kids the most hhahahahaahhaahahaha
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Such jobs do attract guys with a bit more juice than normal. If they don’t live too extremely wild as far as chemistry, they do well into their old age.
Some salty old ones I’ve met, the eyes, ears, and ass hole give out before the pecker does.
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Plzzz. I’m 50 and I’ve been doing like 3 hookers in their 20s a week lately (two of whom are/were “free” girlfriends), and within a about a half hour of cumming, my balls are so full I need more. I can’t even hardly get any work done lately I’m so horny. Nature knows when a guy is fucking alpha-quality chicks and keeps us horny. Just today, Howard Stern was talking about how even though he’s 59, he’s jacking off several times a day, not to mention shagging his much younger wife. And when my then 82-year old uncle went with me to Colombia a year and a half ago, he needed to get blown twice a day to be satisfied.
Keep it hot and allow the guy a little variety of pussy to be excited about and a fertile man (which is just about every man alive) – especially these days with access to Levitra and such – will deliver the goods,
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just to follow that up a bit, a 51 year old friend of mine is a quintissential example. I hooked him up recently with a couple of hookers in their 20s (on different occasions), and both times, he almost came within a minute and had to stop them cuz he wanted to fuck them, too. He said thank goodness for rubbers or he would have busted in each within like 15 seconds.
Nothing he said leads me to believe his 49 year old wife gets the same experience from him.
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Everybody has a friend who…
A significant minority, but still a minority of men are still fully functional without drugs over 50. I have a family full of them. Most guys though, are having problems and/or unable to score consistently with young, hot women.
When thinking of solutions, I try to meet people where they are rather than where I think they should be or would be if only whatever.
Women considering a long term relationship with a much older man should ask themselves if they could handle the relationship turning platonic when he’s 50 or so. They should plan for that possibility.
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I think CH was right when he said something to the effect of it ain’t the age of the dude its the age of the chick he he he
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Usually, that is the case. Quite often though, it is not. Erectile dysfunction wouldn’t be such a horrible problem that dudes would risk blindness and other side effects if the only women they had trouble getting it up for is women they weren’t attracted to.
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when my then 82-year old uncle went with me to Colombia a year and a half ago, he needed to get blown twice a day to be satisfied.
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that’s awesome
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Man, I missed my chance to pick up this *beautiful* Colombian student (she was 18/19 at the time, working at our field station for the summer). I was anxious about the age difference and thought it would be perceived as creepy, so I didn’t make a move for awhile, and eventually she hooked up with a couple other guys instead. In retrospect, people have told me Colombians are generally cool with dating older guys, so I should have gone for it. She was lovely- liked heavy perfume, tight clothing, etc.
She has a boyfriend now, but she’s invited me to come visit her in Cali (and I have legitimate work-related reasons for making a trip down there anyway.) Maybe I should go to Cali and try to get introduced to some lovely senoritas.
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go for it
and apparently you got time he he he
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Can u please explain how to arrange for hot escorts without getting arrested? Serious question. I’d be scared to death I’m calling a cop on the other end of the line.
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1. Buy a prepaid phone, paying cash. Dont’ give your name when you buy it, or when you ever call customer service. Sometimes customer service will ask, but you don’t have to give it, though one wise guy put my name into the system as “John.”
2. wait a few days before calling any hookers so that any store cameras that captured the image of you buying the phone are erased (obviously, if you read that there was a holdup in the store a few minutes after you left so that the cops have the tape, return the phone and try again). Also, to be extra safe, don’t use your credit card for any purchases directly before and after buying the phone
3. go to backpage.com, find your city toward the top right of the page, and then once on your city, go to escorts, near the top right.
4. call girls that appear to be independent (no pimp) and have no driver (some girls will claim to be independent even though they have a driver, so ask – its almost always better if they don’t have driver. If they have ads linked to other girls, they are less likely to be independent than if they don’t. If its possible to stake out a spot when she is driving to be sure she really doesn’t have a driver, all the better. I gave them the neighboring building number so i can see them drive by and blow them off if they pull up with a driver.
5. to double-check how independent they are, google their phone number. If you see a lot of girls that have used the same number, its probably an escort service, and its better to not have your name on the customer list of a service than in just some chicks phone that she probably throws away soon, anyway. If they are reviewed on a review site like The Escort Review, all the better.
6. call the girls – don’t text or email.
7. if the ad doesn’t specify their donation, ask, but don’t ask about how much specific sex acts cost or whether they do such and such. Almost all include fucking and blowing you in the amount they quote. Of course, as with any service, occasionally you will run into some bad apples, either that totally rip you off, or try to upsell you. According to the dentist i went to you yesterday, at least three other dentists I have used put crowns in wrong and at least one should be redone. Poor and dishonest service providers are a fact of life in any business.
8. Have the girl come to you. This is one of the more important ones to avoid arrest. Most of the girls in the hotels are not cops, but why take a chance, and a friend of mine was even busted in a private home he went to. No one gets arrested in their own home, and if its nice, the chick will be impressed and you’ll get better sex – lion in his own lair.
9. put the money out on the counter or somewhere in the shape of a fan so she can see its all there. Again, don’t talk about specific acts until she’s at least topless.
10. pick girls that take poor-quality pictures of themselves in front of a mirror. They are more likely to be independent, and more likely to look even better in person – I am almost always pleasantly-surprised by her looks when the girl shows up, which is good since I wouldn’t have called them if they weren’t hot in the poor-quality pictures in the first place Also, the cops tend to use professional-quality type pictures.
11. use an alias that sounds like a real name. They don’t ask last names.
12. If you can avoid giving them the exact address, that’s a plus. I live in an apartment community, so I give the community’s address and, as I said above, wrong building number. They have to get buzzed in here, anyway, so they inevitably call when they are close so giving them the exact address doesn’t matter. Don’t give them a fake address, though, or they won’t show up.
BTW, you can ignore everything I write above and it will probably all work out fine, but each step I recommend will reduce your risk, and/or help you have a better time.
Alternatively, you may want to go avoid all of the above and go the sugardaddy-dating route. I get laid almost every time from that, and almost always go on a “real date” with the girl first before we get down to business, though frequently – at the girl’s suggestion – those dates move back to my place in a quick. It is a little less direct, though, and you’ll occasionally find yourself out with a chick that isn’t DTF on the first night (I’ve never run into one that wasn’t DTF by the third, though). It is a more expensive route, but the chicks tend to be a bit more upscale, too, but its a bargain compared to conventional dating by a non-PUA.
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Obviously, you’re not the norm. You have a very high sex drive. Most men at age 50 have lower sex drive than you. 3 hookers a day? At age 50? Never heard of it, but maybe I’m misinformed.
Anyway, where do you find the time?
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Unless there is a medical reason to sexual dysfunction like cardiovascular etc…I don’t believe men have sexual dysfunction. Give them a hot enough girl and their peen will rise like a missile.
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I’ve solved the problem! Just go on okcupid or pof and show this beta doctor the differences in the women of different age brackets. I would say forty is the latest at which a woman can be attractive before she starts becoming a dude in drag.
He’s got four years tops.
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Another Hate Crime Hoax.
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He should refer to his brother’s girlfriend as “mother.” Her name henceforth shall be “mother.” Ask constant questions about “mother.” That will drive the message home.
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What race is the man? The woman?
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I got fired from my job because a coworker sent nude photos, but the woman was allowed to keep her job. I have 23 year old housewife & new baby to provide for at home. She is a modern childless careerist bitch with framed photos of her dog all over her office.
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get a lawyer
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if you’re in California contact me at gklegalgroup@gmail to discuss your options
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Yeah ur in a mental state to advise people. LOLOLZLOLZLOLO
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when I was 25 I was fucking a 32-year-old hottie for a while. see I *did* have game then. i was nowhere close to marrying her…so the joke was not on me. I was studly to make that happen at the time. she had a KILLER body….bigtime. brought her to some of my law firm events too….good times
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Other accomplishments in my life: I have fucked, inside LTRs, a 23 year old when I was 21 and then, 2 years later, her younger sister when I was 23 and the sister was 21. The younger sister loved it and the older sister didn’t really know, I don’t think. This is because I never took little sister out; I would just go over to her apartment and have sex with her all night. Total cost? $9.00 bottle of wine . Both sisters were 7s with wicked bodies.
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This dude needs to see a movie. Not just any movie, but this one:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1152758/
It is “Dear Zachary: A letter to a Son about His Father.”
Why? Because the situation is pretty damned similar: an older woman marrying a younger doctor-type. The bitch goes crazy when he tries to leave, and she kills him. She avoids the murder rap because of a feminist judge. But the icing on the vile cake is the ensuing custody battle between the grandparents and the crazy-killer-bitch for the kid, Zachary. When it looks like she’s going to lose, she kills both herself, and the kid via drowning.
Save a life. Stop this mess from happening again.
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Most of you are too young to remember Reagan but his son Ron Jr. 22, married a female 29. Of course, Reagan and Nancy put on a good face about this but they were not happy at all and it wasn’t even a really great difference in age. I can remember the 80’s as if it was yesterday and this is how normal people thought. A man who married an older woman (unless she was very rich) or a man who married a female with a kid was viewed as a loser because people would think, why don’t you marry a young girl and have a kid. The US started to get warped about the time Clinton was in office so all of this insanity is fairly recent. What you used to see were young girls running off with older men. Gloria Vanderbilt who I knew in the 80’s married at 17 to Pasquale DiCicco who was in his 30’s. They lasted awhile and then she married a guy 40+ her senior. She must have looked like a kid at 17 because I found this pic of her at 34. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gloriavanderbilt2.jpg
This was common whether it was Astor or Chaplin where the girl was like 30 years younger.
If an old female married some young guy everyone would think she was a pervert and might have been ostracised.
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OMG I know a beta just like this, or actually it’s worse.
A friend of mine, in his thirties. A bit short but stunningly handsome in a younger Clooney way, charming, extremely intelligent, rock solid abs, works as a lawyer in the UK, studied in Cambridge, in Florence, and in France. Speaks english, swedish, hebrew, french and italian fluently. The guy actually won a price, like the best law student in Europe a couple of years ago. The guy is like a super hero. Yet, despite all of this, he’s a total beta herbling. Guy dated a girl for like 9 years, after the first year this smoking 10 had developed into a whale. And she stayed that way. After he dumped her he got together with a older hag, looking like a 4 (for her age). Now he’s moved in with her and they are planing wedding and kids. She punched waaaaaay above her weight and won. He seems totally oblivious to the fact that he’s still young and could get smoking hot ‘nani whenever he liked to, if he just tried.
But he’s a total beta.
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thanks for the blog CH is was nice to be able to backread my posts
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