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Aging Hamster Hops On The Wheel For One Last Spin

May 1, 2013 by CH

In a mainstream media aka Cathedral loser-whistle article (h/t “garter snake”) about older women “””dating””” younger men, one of the interviewed aging beauties had this to say,

Felicia Brings was 31 and dating a 25-year-old man in the 1970s and so feared losing her job over it that she kept the relationship a secret. “I was so ashamed,” recalled Brings, now 65 and living in Fort Lauderdale, Fla. “At that time, if the guy was younger, you were considered a pervert.”

Brings now gravitates toward younger men — the largest disparity was when she was 50 and dating a 25-year-old — because she finds she connects with them better and, frankly, men her own age aren’t as interested in her.

“When I was in my 40s, I realized I had become invisible to men of my own generation,” said Brings, co-author of “Older Women, Younger Men: New Options for Love and Romance” (New Horizon Press). She noticed younger men, often raised by feminist women, were intrigued by and admiring of her success and experience, whereas older men seemed threatened and expected women to play traditional roles.

Language is supposed to convey meaning, but when a hamster has swallowed it, digested it, and shat it out, we are compelled to sift through the pellets to find the embedded fiber of meaning.

Translated from the Hamsterese, abridged version:

Women are like dog shit. The older they get, the easier they are to pick up.

Translated from the Hamsterese, full version:

Felicia Brings was 31 and banging a 25-year-old boring mediocrity in the 1970s and so feared losing her mind over it that she kept the twice yearly sex sessions a secret. “I was so ashamed,” recalled Brings, now 65 and living in Fort Lauderdale, Fla. “At that time, if the guy was younger, you considered yourself a romantic failure.”

Brings now gravitates toward younger beta males of EatPrayLove ethnicity who are desperately horny and unable to command attention from non-morbidly obese women their own age — the largest disparity was when she was 50 and dating a 25-year-old abject loser — because she finds she genitally connects with the paid gigolos better and, frankly, men her own age aren’t as interested in her when younger, hotter, tighter women are available to them.

“When I was in my wall impact 40s, I realized I had become invisible to men of every generation who had options,” said Brings, co-author of “Older Women, Younger Effete Manboobs: New Ways to Temporarily Sedate the Pain of Being Sexually Worthless to the Men You Really Want” (New Whorizon Press). She noticed younger closet cases, often raised by feminist women, were pretending to be intrigued by and admiring of her success and caustic careergrrl personality, whereas older men who weren’t piss-stained street bums seemed viscerally disgusted by the thought of sex with her flabby carcass and expected women to be minimally attractive to coax a semi.

Hamster status: nuked and raining tufts of blood spattered fur.

This has got to be a Hamster of the Month contender. The alacrity with which aging starlets resort to the “men who don’t want me are threatened by my career success and life experiences” shibboleth should be included in the DSM-IV as a diagnosable psychological disorder.

< Bizarro Obama > Let me be clear, feminist platitude pushers. < /bizarro obama > Men are “threatened” by the accumulated career success and loudly exhorted independence of aging sirens like they’re threatened by a mound of warm, steaming shit: they think it’s disgusting and don’t want to touch it or smell it, let alone stick their dicks in it.

HTH.

I don’t doubt that there are aging divas getting their overworked holes mechanically serviced by dorky desperadoes bursting with the dull pain of years of unexpelled cum. Nor do I doubt that some of those aging Isn’t Girls manage the miracle of convincing a lonely, thoroughly gelded pudgeball with swaying bitch tits and the hormonal profile of a soybean to stick around for more than a few nights of lusterless dispassion.

But, like Mrs. Robinson’s escape from reality, their younger lovers plungers usually fly the coop as soon as a cute girl half the age of the younger men’s groundbreaking intercourse aging mentors bats a dewy eyelash at them. That’s why so many of these loud and empowered aging dames reel off a laundry list of younger “lovers”; apparently not a one of these sensitive and intrigued lovers was interested in putting a ring on it, or even hanging around beyond the proximity of the industrial-sized bottle of lube. And when you ask the aging maiden about her current relationship status, she’s always “gravitating” toward this or that great type of guy.

If this post wasn’t enough of an ego MOAB for you, allow me to bullet-point the relevant shivs:

1. Older women are not fucking younger men in any appreciable numbers, and certainly not anywhere near the numbers of older man-younger woman couples. The whole notion is a wishful concoction of the feminism-drenched fluff media industry.

2. Every rule has its exceedingly rare exceptions. Older woman-younger man arrangements do exist, however their existence is not proof of a noteworthy reality that can impact the otherwise normal functioning of the sexual market.

3. Within the small subset of older woman-younger man pairings, the romantic dynamic is mostly energized, such as it is, by the easy path to sex provided to the younger man who would otherwise have trouble getting laid. Very few older woman-younger man bedroom jaunts grow into committed relationships. Most end unceremoniously within a matter of months.

4. Within that tiny sub-subset of romantically committed older woman-younger man pairings, the younger man is typically a low value omega male who couldn’t get laid in a libertardian-run brothel with a fistful of bitcoins.

5. A non-trivial number of older woman-younger man sex romps are between aging fat women and younger black men who seem to possess, contrary to what is observed in most other races, a complete and utter lack of discriminating taste in short-term sexual partners. The women in these squalid arrangements resemble, in size, shape, color and texture, don’t forget texture, the great resource-aggregating herbivores of the African veldt.

6. The rare, outwardly loving and seemingly stable older woman-younger man couple that one might occasionally glimpse in SWPL enclaves are often the tired detritus of a relationship that began with passionate keenness when the man was, say, in his early 20s and the woman was in her late 20s, and in the fullness of time and familiarity managed to avoid rupture by sheer force of risk-averse beta male inertia.

Some of you wonder why I drop the hammer of candor on liars and deluded freaks with such Thorian dispatch. What’s the upside?

The upside is that a world with fewer reality-denying propagandists is a world that is capable of turning away from the elevation of ugly and toward the exaltation of beauty. That’s the kind of world I want to live in; a world easier on the eyes and happier in the heart.

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  1. on May 1, 2013 at 3:19 pm RappaccinisDaughter

    The only successful older woman/younger man relationships I’ve ever seen were ones in which the age difference was actually relatively trivial–four years or less. If you could have been in high school together, it ain’t May/December.

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    • on May 1, 2013 at 4:00 pm Zombie Shane

      Kinduva stoopid question, but can post-menopausal chicks still reliably achieve orgasm?

      Or is it like you’re pounding and pounding and pounding and waiting and waiting and waiting, and finally you wonder if you should break the mood and just go ahead and ask her whether she’s cum yet?

      Or whether she is even going to be able to cum?

      Cause banging some old lady who couldn’t cum would be really, really weird…

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      • on May 1, 2013 at 4:14 pm Zombie Shane

        ‘Felicia Brings was 31 and banging a 25-year-old boring mediocrity in the 1970s and so feared losing her mind over it that she kept the twice yearly sex sessions a secret. “I was so ashamed,” recalled Brings, now 65 and living in Fort Lauderdale, Fla. “At that time, if the guy was younger, you considered yourself a romantic failure.”’

        On a slightly different note, after a little googling, I’m coming to the conclusion that Felicia Brings’s lifetime Total Fertility Rate is a perfect 0.0.

        From Amazon.com: Felicia and her amazing Chihuahua, Oliver, live in Florida.

        I can’t seem to find any other indication of ex-husbands or biological children.

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      • on May 1, 2013 at 7:05 pm Middle-Aged Male

        Depends on the woman. Wife is 53 and gets off like a rocket every time. Usually within 5 minutes.

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 7:50 am RappaccinisDaughter

        From what I’m told, some women lose interest in sex entirely after The Change, and others get a huge libido burst.

        Now here’s my question for you, Zombie…why do you care if Felicia Brings ever had any kids? I’m seriously not trying to troll you or be an ass; I really want to know. I’ve chosen never to have any, and I’ve taken a lot of flack for it…but nobody’s ever explained to me why they give a crap what I do with my own uterus. (I mean, OK, if they were pro-life and I’d had a bunch of abortions, I could get why they’d be angry. But I’ve been very careful with my birth control and I’ve never been pregnant.) So what’s the deal?

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 10:58 am Greg Eliot

        It ain’t just about YOUR uterus, snowflake… it’s about the extinction of white people… you know, those wacky folks who everyone else in the world loves to hate… especially whilst enjoying the benefits of Whitey Society.

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 11:03 am RappaccinisDaughter

        All righty then.

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 11:53 am Matthew King

        I adore your correct rendering of “all righty.” It compensates for the linebacker shoulders and lack of feminine daintiness. Your speech is dainty enough. May I orbit your magnificent grammatical glow? Maybe throw me an occasional couch pityfuck?

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 1:06 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        I adore the fact that you picture me with linebacker shoulders and, if I recall correctly from a previous exchange, an enormous fiery-red clit. Of course, the construct you have created of me would be pleased to relax on the couch with you, exchanging bons mots in the afterglow.

        Before you come over: would you prefer I wear the Hoppes #9 perfume, or shall I go with the motor oil?

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 2:07 pm Matthew King

        Deer musk, thx.

        Don’t take my fantasies about your appearance literally. They’re mostly for me. I’m just negging you out of an intense bicuriosity for tranny love.

        Therapist tells me to knock it off, too, but what can I say, I want to taste your skin, Beatrice. It’s worth the poison I just know.

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 2:47 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        Oh, dear. I’m afraid I failed to adequately secure the cap on my last bottle of estrus, resulting in the complete destruction of my favorite daypack…and of the potential for our gender-bending romance. (What can I say? My hands were cold and numb.)

        Would it help if I were to wear the clown mask, this time?

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      • on May 3, 2013 at 1:34 pm Matthew King

        Ambiguity is over. Now I know you’re a woman by your epically fucking up a simple task.

        Let’s just go with WD-40 and a dab of gunpowder.

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 12:12 pm key

        lol

        rappaccinisdaughter = “white”

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 2:40 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        Yes, I am. The Italian-sounding name is derived from a Hawthorne story.

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 11:43 pm siberianjourney

        No one will believe you’re really “chosen” it, but you can frame it like that if you want.

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      • on May 3, 2013 at 7:25 am RappaccinisDaughter

        Well, when you spend two years doctor-shopping to find someone willing to sterilize someone your age, then cough up a couple thousand out of your own pocket because your insurance won’t cover it, then schedule the day off work, then go and submit to anesthesia to have the wires inserted in your fallopian tubes, then go back three months later to have a hysterosalpingogram–a fairly painful test–to ensure that the tubes are fully scarred shut…

        …yeah, you’re not “framing” anything. You chose it.

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      • on May 3, 2013 at 1:35 pm Matthew King

        Seriously, where’s your dad? You don’t mutilate yourself that specifically and deeply for no reason, especially the parts that define your womanhood.

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      • on May 3, 2013 at 1:56 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        My dad’s known since I was a little girl that he wasn’t getting any grandkids out of me. Not that I asked permission from him, but he was–and remains–fine with it.

        It’s difficult to tell when I’m basically interpreting your tone and intent via a series of zeroes and ones, but you actually sound worried, Matt. If you are, don’t be. This was not an act of self-harm. I genuinely do not want to have children. I don’t know why; it’s just always been this way for me.

        I know that seems very abnormal to most people, and in truth, it is: Women like me are rare. But we do exist. Google “childfree by choice” if you don’t believe me.

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      • on May 3, 2013 at 3:38 pm Matthew King

        Not worried. Vaguely repulsed and sad for you.

        As far as finding communion among an anti-life whackjob movement like “Child Free by Choice,” well, that doesn’t surprise me. Deviants and neurotics don’t seek cures anymore; they find support among fellow patients. It worked for the sodomites, right?

        http://www.vhemt.org/aboutvhemt.htm
        http://www.angelfire.com/stars3/breathe_light/breatharianism.html

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    • on May 2, 2013 at 1:02 pm Lily

      @RappaccinisDaughter

      It might not be May/December, but 4 years when the woman is older is actually a lot. Ideally, there should be at least 5 years difference the other way around. 10-15 is even better. Call me old fashioned, but it feels best when he’s older and you’re always feeling like his little girl. When he turns 50, you’re still 35. Looking back at his life and when he was 35, to him you’ll look like you’re still a baby, meaning young. 😀

      @Zombie Shane

      I think you’re missing the point. If a woman lost interest in sex, she wouldn’t be allowing you to pound her and pound her, as the reason is she is dry and it’s painful. Dryness means her ovaries aren’t producing as much vaginal fluids. When a woman is dry her libido becomes nil. Vaginas work right when they are always moist. At the risk of sounding too graphic, when the ovaries produce vaginal fluids a woman wants to get fucked, period. Even if she is exhausted or it’s past the 15th day of her cycle, it doesn’t take much stimulating from you to get her in the mood.

      In addition, if you have to pound her and she’s not responding, then chances are she always had trouble orgasming. Some women’s libido plummet after having children. Most of the time it’s a hormonal imbalance that can be treated, even after menopause when the ovaries are not as active.

      @RappaccinisDaughter

      “From what I’m told, some women lose interest in sex entirely after The Change, and others get a huge libido burst.”

      That’s true. Some women can’t get enough. They already get a surge in their late 30s and it continues into their 40s and beyond. Weird!

      Either way, there are ways to correct low libido too, like everything else these days. So if a woman can keep herself thin and her face looking good, and if she doesn’t lose interest in sex, it can make many a hubby happy 🙂 The problem is many women don’t want to put in the effort and they take their husbands for granted. Then they are surprised and hurt when they find out he has a hotter woman on the side. My philosophy is if you can’t be bothered to look your best for him, then at least don’t begrudge him getting it somewhere else. Either continue your wifely duties, or be happy that he’s not bothering you and getting it somewhere else. Where is all this selfishness coming from?

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 2:52 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        As far as keeping a man from straying, all of those things may or may not help. Some men simply aren’t built for monogamy, regardless of how attractive they still find their wives.

        However, I would agree that taking care of oneself and not withholding sex will help with one thing in most cases: It will help keep the mistress on the side…and not in your house. He may cheat, but he’ll have no incentive to divorce you in her favor.

        (I am quibbling with your use of the term “wifely duties” as sex shouldn’t be a duty.)

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 3:39 pm Lily

        I agree, but to those women that have lost interest in sex it becomes a duty. Either stick to the implied contract of marriage, or don’t complain if he gets it elsewhere.

        Regarding monogamy, I agree. Some men aren’t built for it. But then why marry a man like this if you know about his inclinations, and you know he can’t be faithful? Usually, men are very honest about their objectives when it comes to their values. So most of the time, he will tell you that if he married you don’t expect him to always be faithful. If you can handle it, great. If you can’t, you have no business marrying him to begin with, because men like him will always look for other women, no matter how great you look.

        Here, I am speaking about men who were faithful to their wives during the early part of the marriage and would have stayed faithful had the woman not changed. It’s not fair to hold it over their head and call them cheats when the woman didn’t stick to the implied contract of marriage. Most men will not cheat if they have a good home life, and that includes a woman who is a good mother, a good lover, respectful and loving towards him and their life together, as well as making an effort to look good and stay thin. I think most men appreciate this and will keep themselves from straying no matter the temptations. Regardless of what feminists think, men have a lot of sexual self-control when they want to. However, self-control is no fun when your wife disrespects you and looks like a cow and feels entitled to all of you when she is giving you nothing. Men are sexual creatures with conditional love and ulterior motives. The faster we accept this, the better it is. Beautiful women affect men’s psyche, they move men, and as a result men tend to be a lot more generous, sympathetic, and supportive to beautiful women. Wives staying desirable is a key to happiness in most marriages baring special circumstances like the man who will never be faithful.

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  2. on May 1, 2013 at 3:20 pm nyushu

    Felicia Briggs is a blonde German. She also doesn’t seem to have packed on many extra pounds from what her few pictures reveal.

    The only way an older woman/younger man relationship can work is if the ONLY concession on the woman’s part is her age. This woman still seems feminine (having been raised in Europe), thin, and isn’t ugly.

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    • on May 1, 2013 at 4:29 pm Greg Eliot

      Blonde German?

      Born in Munich, yet… raised in NYC… schnozz and cod-liver coated eyes… writes and is touted by the mainstream media for her “Cougarlicious” (LLOOZOZOZOZLL) articles…

      Eh, eh… I smell YKW.

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      • on May 1, 2013 at 10:27 pm Anonymous

        Your YKWdar is working correctly.

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 10:53 am Greg Eliot

        It seldom fails.

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  3. on May 1, 2013 at 3:20 pm PRX

    “At that time, if the guy was younger, you were considered a pervert.”

    yes kids, the 70’s were total squaresville. they made the 50’s look like the 60’s.

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  4. on May 1, 2013 at 3:22 pm tj

    And in the rarer instances where a ring does get put on it, when it comes off as it surely will, the hamster goes full on crazy.

    Yes, Demi Moore, I’m talkin’ ’bout you

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  5. on May 1, 2013 at 3:22 pm Mom with basement

    You forget 1 factor: money.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/27/duchess-of-alba-bikini_n_1832648.html

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    • on May 1, 2013 at 3:37 pm The Karamazov Idea

      Dear God, is that thing even alive? It looks like one of the Nazis that got its face melted off in Raiders of the Lost Ark

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    • on May 1, 2013 at 5:05 pm Zombie Shane

      Gotta hand it to her, though – back when her womb was still fertile, the bitch pushed out six white babies.

      Not bad.

      Not bad at all.

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 11:01 am Greg Eliot

        Heh, heh… six white babies… that’s why they call her the Duchess of Alba… heh, heh.

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    • on May 1, 2013 at 5:48 pm V

      Don’t assume this means he doesn’t get any action on the side…

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    • on May 1, 2013 at 6:20 pm Dan Fletcher

      I assume he’s in it for the long-con. Suffer five years or so of misery till she kicks it, take all her money and leverage that into a high-status position where he can get in on younger, hotter, tighter, etc….

      Can’t say I’d do it myself.

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    • on May 1, 2013 at 6:42 pm Days of Broken Arrows

      Thanks for making me look at that. I really need that. My lord.

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    • on May 3, 2013 at 7:10 am Hugh G. Rection

      Does that make her husband the Douche of Alba?

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  6. on May 1, 2013 at 3:31 pm riadee

    My husband chased me when I was a single divorced mom with two elementary school kids and he was 25, himself, having never been married and with no kids to claim anywhere and he convinced me to marry him. We are still together 12 years later with no separations during that time. This man was and still is very good-looking and women flirt with him in front of me. He has never strayed and it still seems like we’re newly married. I’m not saying this to brag or to argue with you because I love reading your blog and have learned a lot about men that I never knew or could guess but I just want you to know of a real-life story as it pertains to this topic of older woman/younger man. And, oh, btw, he picked me from a dating site knowing my true age and status and I definitely didn’t even want to consider a younger man. I didn’t lie about my age or situation because I didn’t want to waste my time attracting someone who really didn’t want someone like me. And, as I write this, I’m thinking that maybe this marriage has lasted so long because I’m traditional and no where near a feminist and my husband, for his age group, is surrounded by (what I can tell) is loud, aggressive, “career” women when all he ever really wanted was to have a wife at home to take care of the kids and him when he gets home from work. Keep the information coming and love your honesty. Thanks for letting me share my story.

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    • on May 1, 2013 at 4:16 pm Zombie Shane

      Does he have any biological children of his own with you?

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    • on May 1, 2013 at 4:39 pm Anonymous

      Well there you guy. A sample of n=1. Must be true for everything…

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    • on May 1, 2013 at 5:57 pm Nicole

      That’s all very nice, but yours is an exceptional case. The fact that your husband values femininity and loyalty more than superficially is exceptional to begin with.

      “Freaks” (and in this case, I mean that in a good way) don’t count when speaking generalities. Generally, older women would do better to pursue men older than themselves. If they don’t have any older prospects at all, then something is wrong with them. I don’t mean older guys in perfect situations ready to marry them. I mean prospects.

      A woman who is well groomed and relatively healthy is not invisible to men her age and older. Who says such nonsense is a liar. She just lied to justify her love of chasing the young cock, or if it’s not that then it’s a fear of a real relationship, or maybe some sort of control or trust issues.

      Even I with my fat ass have older prospects, but their wives came back after finding out they were dating a Black woman.

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    • on May 1, 2013 at 8:22 pm jack

      This case is quite simple Watson. You see, the man was beta and didn’t have any younger baggage free options. Pass me my pipe.

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  7. on May 1, 2013 at 3:31 pm Myxomatosis

    The most glaring difference, among many, between a mid-thirties chick and, say, a 22 year old is their flesh. Even a 35 year old girl who’s in great shape has to be docked a couple of points simply because her skin is rougher, looser, and doughy.

    Whereas that 22 year old’s skin is glass smooth and tightly wrapped around her bones.

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    • on May 1, 2013 at 3:40 pm gunslingergregi

      yea had a 29 year old chick standing next to a 24 year old chick yesterday the difference was noticeable
      I felt a little bad when I said it was time to upgrade

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      • on May 1, 2013 at 5:05 pm OralCummings

        Its so sad to think of a beautiful girl who was at her best at 16. Its sad for the fucking MAN!!

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      • on May 1, 2013 at 5:24 pm n/a

        See my edifying remarks in the previous thread to become, perhaps, less sad.

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      • on May 1, 2013 at 6:37 pm gunslingergregi

        thank god I guess I had em when young

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    • on May 1, 2013 at 4:56 pm Anonymous

      Indeed.

      And when you ask the aging maiden about her current relationship status, she’s always “gravitating” toward this or that great type of guy.

      The only things “gravitating” about aging maidens are their assets.

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    • on May 1, 2013 at 5:17 pm William

      @Myxomatosis

      That’s ignored when people talk highly about older women in shape.
      I think the looser skin is why alot of older woman go crazy with the ab workouts.

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    • on May 1, 2013 at 6:49 pm Dan Fletcher

      This so much.

      Can’t quite put it into words but there is nothing quite like the skin of a young, nubile women.

      I’ve noticed sometimes girls have a bit of a “glossy” look to their skin. Is this an ovulation sign? I find it very arousing.

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 9:30 am itsme

        I’ve noticed sometimes girls have a bit of a “glossy” look to their skin. Is this an ovulation sign?

        i don’t think it’s an ovulation sign – older women who can still ovulate don’t have the glossy look.

        it’s the inimitable glow of youth. the cosmetics and plastic surgery industries try to sell it to women who have long since lost it, but there’s simply no substitute for the real thing.

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  8. on May 1, 2013 at 3:34 pm riadee

    I forgot to add that I’m nine years older than him. Thank you.

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    • on May 1, 2013 at 3:43 pm gunslingergregi

      so how does it work out with the kids
      congrats on the 12 years

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  9. on May 1, 2013 at 3:46 pm Joe Sixpack

    OT.

    The 5 Richest Women in the World:

    http://www.investopedia.com/slide-show/richest-women/?utm_campaign=inv-tbl-pfs-012813&utm_source=tbl&utm_medium=cpc&utm_content=adg-na_adv-na_mtp-na_adc-con_adf-mix_ptp-cp_geo-na

    Note a single one is self-made. Surprised?

    “Daughter of…”, “Widow of the Son of…”

    Many manboobs and White Knights in the Comments section. One commenter even mentions the “patriarchy” as being the reason the richest women are not self-made. lol

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    • on May 1, 2013 at 4:09 pm Ovid

      Joe,

      Astute observation.

      There is a strong connection linking “family-values” CONservatism with pointy-elbowed militant feminism.

      A newer, more potent red pill?

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    • on May 1, 2013 at 8:59 pm Full-Fledged Fiasco

      “Note a single one is self-made. Surprised?

      “Daughter of…”, “Widow of the Son of…”

      No:

      “Why aren’t there more women billionaires?

      According to Forbes, 104 of the world’s 1,226 billionaires are women. That’s about 8.5 percent, even though women make up half of the total population.

      The ranks of self-made rich women are even smaller. The vast majority of women billionaires around the world made their fortune through marriage (and divorce) or inheritance, according to various lists.”

      (“The Shortage of Women Billionaires,” CNBC, May 25, 2012).

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  10. on May 1, 2013 at 3:54 pm Joe Sixpack

    *Richest women in the US.

    But I’m sure this holds as a universal truth.

    Although I am surprised no hard 10s are in there. Which begs the question:

    If these women all hard 9s and 10s, would this cause a feminist’s brain to spontaneously combust?

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  11. on May 1, 2013 at 3:57 pm FuriousFerret

    Attractive in shape older women will still be genuinely attracted to young guys that are high value.

    The real point here is that women are trying to pull the wool over the worlds eyes by trying to compare vaginas to cocks and proclaiming that both display high value the same way. Average young women are desired by high value old men whereas the inverse is certainly not true. Beta male young guys are not simply attractive by being young, they are just horny and will look past a plain older women’s decline due to thirstiness. Average young women are almost always attractive unless fat.

    The hamster on display here is trying to pull off that what makes a man high value also makes a woman high value. Pulling young beta cock is the ultimate sign of desperation for an aging hag. Snagging average twenty year pussy is an achievement for the middle aged man and display his virility.

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    • on May 1, 2013 at 5:22 pm Libertardian

      As disgusting as this schtick is, I hope they manage to continue deluding themselves with it for a while. When they give up, that’s when we’ll start hearing about outright bachelor taxes.

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    • on May 1, 2013 at 5:58 pm Modern Primitive

      Girls are generally attracted to guys older than them.

      High value males wouldn’t be sleeping with older women, much as the older women might be attracted to them. The males would have to be extreemely high value to overcome the hypergamous instinct to want older men, which would probably rule out a high value younger male pairing with an older attractive woman, as if he is truly high value then he will always have younger, hotter options.

      I think you’d be struggling to find truly high value men dating/fucking women much older than them, it’d probably be good looking greater and lesser betas who’d be doing the older women.

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 12:57 pm happycrow

        Anecdotal support for the hypothesis (ofc, the plural of anecdote != “evidence”)

        When I was in HS I banged the hot Italian chick a year younger than me AND the hopeless never-got-a-life 38 y.o. from the party school. So I could see myself being rated low-value then (1 my age, 1 older, as opposed to a dozen my age); I could see myself as a so-called “greater beta” fitting that paradigm…particularly b/c I don’t care HOW hot a woman is, if her apparent IQ drops forty points as soon as she opens her mouth, I’m not fucking her. (I’m high-macchiavellian but near-zero solipsism and walked away from banging a solid ten to marry a high-8 with solid feminine qualities and a whip-sharp mind, which in CH-land definitely puts me in beta category. I’m married now, but my basic take is “if she’s interesting and not repulsive, I’d consider screwing her.”)

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  12. on May 1, 2013 at 4:41 pm Jeremy

    My youngest brother (20s) has been dating a woman in her 40s for quite a few years now. She’s had 1 marriage, 3 kids, divorced and hubby still lives in the house, as a hermit in an attic room.

    I do not believe my brother has ever known this woman in the biblical sense. I could be wrong, quite possibly am very wrong, but I don’t believe it. I’ll likely never ask.

    Make your own conclusions. I have mine, and they do not contradict this article.

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  13. on May 1, 2013 at 4:47 pm Adam

    Can’t lie. I’m 26 and sometimes I like to fuck older women. And by older I mean 40-50. While doing it I roleplay in my head that I’m fucking a friend’s mom or my girlfriend’s mom or some angry lady I met at work, etc. Sometimes it gets hot as shit, too. Those older women, they have very little hang ups and they are desperate to please you.

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    • on May 1, 2013 at 6:58 pm feministx

      It seems to me that guys below 25 are most willing to have sex with women over 40 out of all men. They get a kick out of it. Teacher fantasy and friend’s mom fantasy and whatnot. It’s the guys over 40 that get adamant about preferring women under 30.

      My boyfriend is ridiculous. For ex, he knows this singer who was a 9+ in her late 20s. She is now 34 and invited him to a gig, and he said “but she’s over 30 now and she won’t look the same. I am not interested in seeing her.”

      I don’t know a single guy my age who would show no interest in a lady who was 34 just because she was 34. (Her music makes no sense, btw. It’s not instrinsically worth listening to).

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      • on May 1, 2013 at 8:19 pm Adam

        It’s just a she’s-old-enough-to-be-my-mom kind of novelty fuck. Kind of like how teenagers see women 30+ as milfs. Honestly, I can’t see myself still fucking older women 10 years from now. Not too many females in their 50’s are bangable.

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      • on May 1, 2013 at 8:47 pm corvinus

        It’s because the younger guys are young and horny, and the older women are lonely and hungry. Plus, the older women don’t typically need birth control.

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    • on May 1, 2013 at 6:59 pm corvinus

      Older (40+) women are as common as dirt nowadays thanks to the post-war baby boom. What begs asking is, why do some young guys decide to MARRY them?!

      One of my male cousins is involved with a woman twenty years older than him. We call her the “grandma girlfriend”, and somehow she has kept him hooked for years, such that I can safely say that she is the reason why he has never gotten a family of his own.

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 5:07 am Wilson

        Well, at least he won’t have to pay child support.

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  14. on May 1, 2013 at 5:19 pm Libertardian

    Your whirling blades of giant hamster evisceration just get sharper every time. Well done sir.

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  15. on May 1, 2013 at 5:25 pm bhodi1555

    Hahahaha!!! Thanks CH that post made my day.

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  16. on May 1, 2013 at 5:33 pm old man

    This post was a masterpiece among a trove of treasures

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  17. on May 1, 2013 at 5:47 pm Johnycomelately

    You are too hard on aged women, for a young man breaking his duck and overcoming anxiety is a good thing, while the women get to experience the warm and fuzzies and compare notes with girl friends. Win win all around.

    They’re too far gone to be marriage prospects so let them serve their purpose in peace, as practice women.

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    • on May 2, 2013 at 6:25 am Kate

      You wrote this very nicely, but, listen. No woman wants to be “practice” and it is false to believe women are happy to help betas/young men on their way to some perceived alphadom to be ignored and ashamed of later. Much less *thanked* for what they have bestowed upon them. There used to be prostitutes to do this dirty work. Now everyone’s in the mud.

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 9:40 am itsme

        No woman wants to be “practice”

        but their hamsters want it. it’s why we end up seeing lots of articles like this.

        the truth is, most women would rather ‘help’ these young guys than be alone.

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 10:23 am Kate

        When did most women become altruists? My wording was poor above. Helping men in any capacity is a thankless job and very often a self-defeating one. Help a man achieve something and you’ve just made him a “better” man for the woman he’s nexting you for. That’s the reaity. Maybe women who are treated respectfully don’t mind the helping. But, in my mind, that takes a lot of handling. And its not something the guy who needs practice can usually do.

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 10:59 am itsme

        notice the quotes around the word ‘help’.

        from the male perspective, a less experienced young guy fucking an older experienced woman, is for all intents and purposes her ‘helping’ him.

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  18. on May 1, 2013 at 5:55 pm Trimegistus

    Ben Franklin thought they were good fun when he was a young man. When he was older, his mistresses were younger women.

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  19. on May 1, 2013 at 6:45 pm dave843

    What’s with all this ‘libertardian’ crap?

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    • on May 1, 2013 at 7:28 pm Jesus H. Christ

      Libertarians are communist retards.

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    • on May 1, 2013 at 11:21 pm Libertardian

      I think his issue is with open-borders libertarians.

      Of course, the problem with opening the borders is that it assumes you have an actual capitalist society that will attract net tax payers and not net tax consumers, as opposed to an unraveling welfare state that will just attract more parasites. So, obviously, shut the fucking borders.

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    • on May 2, 2013 at 7:54 am RappaccinisDaughter

      Yeah, I don’t think he’s got much of a problem with the “national greatness” libertarians…you know, those among us who changed our minds about open borders on September 11, 2001.

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  20. on May 1, 2013 at 6:46 pm Uncle Elmer

    “Older Women, Younger Men: New Options for Love and Romance”

    Need I mention R.Don Steele’s classic “How to Date Young Women for Men Over 35, Volumes I and II”?

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  21. on May 1, 2013 at 6:54 pm Jose Coces

    I was a 6). When I was 21, I started dating with a then 27-year old single mother. Why I did it? She had great C-cups, a nice big ass, a small waist, large hips, all in a 5’1 package. I left her one month before she turned 30. She was starting to get wrinkles by then, and I feared she might be trying to get pregnant (she began to insist I did not had to use condoms).
    Now I am doing the reverse: I am 27, dating a 21-year old. Much better.

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  22. on May 1, 2013 at 7:39 pm Man reader.

    Abso-fucking-lutely hilarious post ch. lolzxxxxxxlolxxx

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  23. on May 1, 2013 at 7:40 pm AlexandraHamilton

    I don’t even understand why any woman would want to date a guy younger than herself. It screws up the whole dynamic; I would imagine it easily falls into the boyish-puppy and his mommy dynamic. If I find out a guy is even a year or two younger it’s a huge minus. Find out he’s 3+ years younger and it’s a complete dealbreaker. I know it’s anecdotal, but none of my girlfriends would go younger either.

    Oh I forgot. Anything men can do women can do too, and it’s exactly the same even though no one REALLY believes it is so they write wheel-spinning articles to rationalize it. Ugh.

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    • on May 1, 2013 at 8:15 pm anon

      Nice tits.

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    • on May 2, 2013 at 12:01 am NiceGuyGoneCad (@NiceGuyGoneCad)

      Old girls need cock too. That’s all. You’ll probably end up doing the same, so get off your high horse.

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 6:53 pm AlexandraHamilton

        I’m not that young, at least according to this blog. I’m 25. Also, I decided to settle down with a great guy while I was still young and reasonably attractive instead of riding the cock carousel. #GirlWin

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    • on May 2, 2013 at 5:52 am Nicole

      I have preferred older men since I was a kid. I literally fell in love with the idea of Santa Claus at some point. Might be a bit sick, but one of the things I like about living in Israel is that it’s full of guys with long beards.

      Being open to dating younger men is mostly about availability, I think. Most don’t have developed enough personalities under the age of 40 to compete with older guys. There just isn’t the experience. The only exceptions I’ve seen or heard about are guys who had a father but he died or became ill at an age when the boy was able to take on some responsibilities, and did that, or when they were raised in a way they had to grow up on time.

      A guy who has basically been a man since the age of 10 or so is on a different development schedule than a guy who didn’t become a man and take on manly responsibilities until 18+.

      So I don’t think it’s totally unhealthy or sick in all cases to mess around with younger men, but it will be rare in the west to meet one with whom it would not just be messing around…and this is okay. It’s better than becoming a depressed old hag. One just has to keep it in perspective.

      With my current boyfriend, who is in the early responsibilities category, I just live in the now. I don’t really think about the future because that’s his job, and if there isn’t one then it’s cool because I already did my stuff on time. Nothing is missing from my life.

      What disturbs me is when older women who didn’t do their stuff on time try to recapture things that are lost forever, in these poor boys who can’t give them back the time. When the guy is really in love with a woman who’s trying to make up for her past stupidity but can’t see well enough how she was being stupid to avoid making further mistakes, it ends up ripping his heart out.

      As the older person, one has to take some responsibility for the situation. Older men do it when they take on younger women. If older women are going to roll like older men now, then they need to nut up that way as well.

      I have told a guy once, who was in love with me but I understood that being with me was not compatible with the goals he had prior to meeting me, that he needed to find someone else because I did not want to eat his youth. It took him awhile to understand the wisdom of it. He simply wasn’t able to dominate me in certain important ways because there was this part of him that he couldn’t see, that wanted the house full of kids and on some level, a pat on the back from the establishment.

      If we’re talking about real love here…the kind that would give anything to see the other person happy and successful, then a loving person has to do the loving thing, which isn’t always the keeping thing.

      My current boyfriend is one of those types of people who is supposed to be visibly deviant, and is doing the leading, so this is a different story. Still, I don’t bank on the exceptions. I just wait and see.

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    • on May 2, 2013 at 6:10 am itsme

      Find out he’s 3+ years younger and it’s a complete dealbreaker. I know it’s anecdotal, but none of my girlfriends would go younger either.

      the woman in the article felt the same way….until she reached a certain age and realized that the only guys who would date her were younger. it was a matter of taking what she could get.

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    • on May 2, 2013 at 6:29 am Kate

      Young people are invigorating.

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 11:04 pm n/a

        This remark, plain as it seems, made a cradle-robber smile.

        I’ve missed you a little.

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      • on May 3, 2013 at 6:13 am Kate

        Hello. babyface 🙂

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      • on May 3, 2013 at 10:56 am Kate

        ps: You would not have believed the heroism of my white jeans this Easter. During the egg hunt in a snowy. muddy field, people trodding around looking like claymations were looking at me like I was crazy. But did I get any on me? Not. a. speck. 🙂

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      • on May 3, 2013 at 4:37 pm n/a

        Kate,

        If a toddler-fraught mud-field leaves no mark, then I no longer feel bad about staining your pixel essence with distant but persistently dirty thoughts.

        You’d look good in an old pair of *men’s* Levi’s 501 shrink-to-fit and a tight 3-button Henley.

        That would make for a nice peel.–

        See ya around, smart girl.

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      • on May 3, 2013 at 5:16 pm Kate

        I do strive to be appealing 🙂

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  24. on May 1, 2013 at 8:01 pm Tinderbox

    Wonderful, wonderful post.

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    • on May 1, 2013 at 11:21 pm Neecy

      NO ITS NOT!! 👿

      And Where the hail have you been mister?

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      • on May 12, 2013 at 3:28 am Glengarry

        “This is 25/40.”

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  25. on May 1, 2013 at 8:13 pm dulimar

    I’ve done a big LAUGH at:

    “At that time, if the guy was younger, you considered yourself a romantic failure.”

    “I realized I had become invisible to men of every generation who had options,”

    Great post man! This blog is really amazing!
    I read every week since 2010.

    Best regards from Brazil.

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  26. on May 1, 2013 at 8:24 pm jack

    Female privilege: The ability to be attracted to the opposite sex no matter what their age.

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  27. on May 1, 2013 at 8:56 pm Anonymous

    Heartiste: I salute you. This post is a masterpiece. It displays wit, insight and devastating analysis. (Also, it is hysterically funny).
    Well done.

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  28. on May 1, 2013 at 9:22 pm Cpt. Capitalism

    A very important point.

    Why is it every self-proclaimed “successful woman” I see is by definition NOT successful.

    Wow, an author I never heard of writing female drivel. Not a surgeon. Not an engineer.

    No, just another one in the millions of middle aged women “writing” about themselves.

    That is not intimidating, nor successful. Just common.

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  29. on May 1, 2013 at 9:24 pm mark

    Women are like fine wine; they should be kept locked away in a dark cellar as they age.

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  30. on May 1, 2013 at 9:51 pm jez

    “(New Whorizon Press)”

    I know that was just a throwaway side joke, but — jolly good, old chap.

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    • on May 2, 2013 at 10:06 am backdoor man

      That was also my favorite bit.

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  31. on May 1, 2013 at 10:30 pm Aging Hamster Hops On The Wheel For One Last Spin « PUA Central

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  32. on May 1, 2013 at 10:35 pm tang3zang

    You’re talking about guys who date old ladies because they’re telling themselves age doesn’t matter, open mindedness and all that (another reason why feminists shouldn’t be allowed to raise children).

    But I think most of these guys are just happy to fuck anything, at least for the experience.

    When I was 17, I went weekly to this white lady’s house for one-on-one art tutoring. She was divorced, children flown the nest, and roughly in her 50s. Every week she would hug me, kiss my head, press against me while I was drawing, bring me food, flirt with me, ask me to stay for dinner etc. Now this was when I had long girlish hair and looked young, even by Asian standards. She would wear these really transparent silk shirts, and on several occasions spent the entire lesson wearing tight jeans with the fly unzipped, hoping I would notice and “remind” her. Of course, being raised by strict Asian parents and I was either completely oblivious to her intentions, or so fearful of being impolite I ignored them altogether.

    But you know what? Three “normal” girlfriends after, I still lie awake wondering what it would’ve been like with the art teacher.

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    • on May 2, 2013 at 11:04 am Greg Eliot

      Take a dose of saltpetre in your rice bowl, Cholly.

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  33. on May 1, 2013 at 11:20 pm Neecy

    👿 YOU.ARE.GOING.TO.HELL. (and not even in a handbasket). They are just going to drop you like a hot potato (no, not a yummy tasty sweet potato, but a nasty overcooked starchy WHITE pasty potato with green thingies growing out of the skin (you’ve seen those before) in the depths of HELL! 😡

    Older women deserve good juicy Cockadoodledooooo and love too DAMNIT! 😡 👿

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    • on May 1, 2013 at 11:58 pm NiceGuyGoneCad (@NiceGuyGoneCad)

      You look a bit thinner than you did in your last pic. Congrats.

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 12:00 am Neecy

        I lost 12 pounds 😀

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 6:10 am itsme

        why? all bodies are good bodies.

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 3:58 pm Neecy

        😡

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 6:30 am Kate

        Good for you!!! 🙂

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 3:38 pm Neecy

        Thanks Kate! I’m still working at keeping the momentum!

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 11:06 am Greg Eliot

        I liked you better chubby… now I’m afraid I’ll lose you to other men.

        LLOZLOZOZOZOZOZLZLZLZLZLZLZOZOZOZLZLZLZLZLZL

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 3:39 pm Neecy

        So you’re one of those huh my Gregieeee?/ Like to keep your woman chubby so she has less options? LOL Don’t worry chubby or skinny I will always love you *MUAH*!

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 8:53 pm Greg Eliot

        It’s complicated.

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 9:06 pm Neecy

        MMMM HMMMM. 🙄

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  34. on May 1, 2013 at 11:29 pm Neecy

    BTW I dare you to tell me you’d kick Sofia Vegarara (43), Jennifer Lopez (43) out of the bed and/or wouldn’t date them. I DARE YOU to tell me those women at 43 couldn’t compete with some 20 year olds.

    Gimme a break! Why it bothers you and the men on here so much that women in their 40’s these days can hang with the young ones b/c we still look DAMN GOOD.

    And. My last question to you is this – WHYTTHEFLOCK are you so worried about what older women past prime are doing with our vajayjays anyway? since you claim to only have an interest in young 20 somethings?? Worry about your target niche and not what other young men and older women (who you have ZERO interest in) are doing. its not your D!ck so quit obsessing over what other young men and older women are doing.

    Who cares if they are beta or omega men? Who gives a shit? Are you sleeping with these men or older women? NO? STOP WORRYING ABOUT IT THEN!

    THANK YOU and GOOD NIGHT!

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    • on May 2, 2013 at 10:17 am Hector

      I basically agree with this.

      I happen to be interested in pursuing the 18-25 demographic, but it’s no skin off my back if some men choose to pursue older women, just as it’s no skin off my back if gay men choose to pursue dudes.

      I’m interested in younger women for a variety of personal hangup reasons (I missed out on them when I was in college/high school due to social anxiety, I want someone younger who I can be a provider/mentor/source of security for, and I want to be with someone who’s kind of new to adult life since I’m young for my age relationship-wise). If was *just* going by looks though, Stacey Dash could compete with a lot of women half her age or less.

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 3:44 pm Neecy

        I completely do understand why people waste time and energy hating on those who they claim to “not care about” but it boggles the mind as to why they believe their opinions mean shit in the grand scheme of things.

        My motto is live and let live. Worry about what YOU LIKE and stop focusing on what others you claim to have zero interest in are doing.

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    • on May 2, 2013 at 10:57 am itsme

      Why it bothers you and the men on here so much that women in their 40′s these days can hang with the young ones b/c we still look DAMN GOOD.

      examples from the extreme end of the bell curve are not representative of the average.

      it is also unfuckingdeniable that jennifer lopez and sofia vergara were hotter in their younger years than they are now.

      behold a 17-year old sofia vergara:

      but hey, what’s most important is that not only do you, 40-something neecy, still look better than that 20-something rape hoax land whale femcunt, but your hamster is even stronger than hers!

      that must be the secret to your 12 pound weight loss – stronger, faster hamster = greater caloric expenditure. that and a bit of fgas.

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 3:48 pm Neecy

        PEOPLE GET OLD SO FKN WHAT???? get over it! If you don’t wanna fuck 30, 40, 50, 60 etc year olds why the fuck would you even care whose fucking them??????????? ITS NOT YOUR PENIS, so worry about your own.

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      • on May 3, 2013 at 6:12 am itsme

        and of course you’ve missed the point of h3artsie’s post. he’s not making fun of the fact that women get old. everyone gets old. he’s making fun of her rationalizations. hamsters are a neverending source of comedy.

        read for comprehension.

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      • on May 3, 2013 at 10:10 am Neecy

        He’s making fun of women who are making the most of their situations. Should an older woman NOT date or have relations with younger men and sit in a corner and die? Why make a younger man feel bad for his choices b/c they don’t fall in line with your idea of what is good and worthy?

        Should she just crawl away a DIE sexless b/c the men in her age group obsessed with women half their age, deem her invaluable as a human being b/c she is not YOUNG anymore?

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      • on May 12, 2013 at 3:32 am Glengarry

        She can take care of her children and/or grandchildren.

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    • on May 2, 2013 at 11:07 am Greg Eliot

      I’d kick Sofia out of bed… so I could nail her on the rug.

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 3:49 pm Neecy

        LOL Carpet burnnnnnn!

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 8:56 pm Greg Eliot

        Yeah, but only our knees… (bark for me baby)

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 9:07 pm Neecy

        No barking here. I ROAR!!

        *RAWRRRRR*

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 9:49 pm Greg Eliot

        You’re lean, you’re mean, and you’re not too far between… I will teach you the meaning of the word respect.

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    • on May 2, 2013 at 11:07 am itsme

      Why it bothers you and the men on here so much that women in their 40′s these days can hang with the young ones b/c we still look DAMN GOOD.

      examples from the extreme end of the bell curve do not accurately represent the average.

      it is also unfuckingdeniable that sofia vergara and jennifer lopez were hotter in their younger years than they are now.

      behold a 17 year old sofia vergara:

      but hey, you do have one or two things to be proud of. you’re better looking than that 20-something rape hoax femcunt land whale, and you’ve lost 12 pounds, in no small part due to your hamster’s greater caloric expenditure and a bit of fgas.

      at least you’re not bitter!

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    • on May 2, 2013 at 3:30 pm John South

      So you are comparing 43 year old celebrities to average 43 year olds?

      World of difference there in appearance and just about everything else.

      Not to mention you would be famous for dating a celebrities and your market value would skyrocket or you’d have a big payday if you married her.

      Of course I would go for it.

      But the average 40 year old doesn’t have any of these things going on.

      We’re talking broke, fugly, child care issues, ect.

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 3:55 pm Neecy

        Celebrity status doesn’t change anything. i just used them as examples b/c they are more visible. But there are PLLLLENTY of women in the 40 age range who still look ah-fin-mazing to men who simply LIKE WOMEN. If you hate women deep down of course you will look for any reason (even a NATURAL AGING) to talk shit about them.

        At the end of the day what I am simply saying is: screw, date and marry your teenagers and twenty year olds. If that is what makes you happy I cannot FATHOM why one would spend energy or even a THOUGHT worrying about what a woman who is not on your radar is doing and who is doing her.

        I just can’t understand that.

        And yes i say the same about women who also talk crap about older men and younger women. WHO CARES! If you are not with him, then mind your business and focus on your own life and situation.

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      • on May 3, 2013 at 2:25 pm John South

        There are some, not plenty at all but you see problem when clothes come off. What happens as you get older is standards go up.

        When you were 18-24 it was exciting to bang your 45 yr old MILF college prof because you would eagerly fuck anything, it was forbidden fruit, you had limited experience and massive testosterone, but at 38? Not as much. Not only have you been there and done that but your sex drive is half what it used to be.

        After 50-100 women it takes a lot to get a man excited, face it, many alphas are jaded. And most 40 year old women don’t look amazing naked without makeup and pushup bra and every other trick.

        They also have kids and pre-existing kids are a nightmare. No reason to put up with that other than limited options.

        At this point I can look at a woman of most any size, shape or age and know what sex with her will be like. There’s something that happens at that point, there is no more wonder or anticipation.

        That’s why a lot of guys would rather pay for sex with a legit hottie than free sex with an old lady and even get tired of that fairly quickly.

        I’m not going to get it up very long for a mediocre woman. I mean I’ll screw her once or twice but then I’m losing interest in sex with her. At least with a young girl with a perfect body I might get six months out of her.

        I have 30-40 year old women hitting on me a lot now and I don’t get one bit of excitement, I don’t even want to bother with them. 10 years ago I would have been eager for another notch, now I just use them to get free shit. They buy me lunch, drinks, get me jobs, whatever. It works out better.

        I’d definitely live with an older woman if it will get me places, but I won’t do it for free.

        Hetero women simply have no idea what looks good, that’s why there are all these articles about women who have “beautiful, intelligent, successful friends” and can’t get dates because men are “intimidated”. You see the picture and it looks like a troll.

        A female acquaintance was surprised to learn Hillary Clinton is ugly, she disagreed with me.

        I said fine, you bang her.

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      • on May 3, 2013 at 8:02 pm Neecy

        (sorry this post will be a bit long. But then again most of my posts are. 😆 But i really want to make some points, so I will have to break it up in maybe one or two posts)

        FIRST:

        I don’t know what it is with White men and women/youth but man you guys have it baaad. LOL. I just don’t get it, b/c your views on women and age are pretty extreme and not in a good way.

        Nonetheless, i do date WHite guys and I have been lucky to find some real strong solid guys (one which i am dating now). In *my mind* (maybe not to most here) but *MY MIND* and eyes he is total Alpha b/c he just doesn’t give a fuck about what other people think.

        He has a double whammy with me – I’m 39 and I am Black. And he is like a soldier who says “i don’t give a fuck what people think”. And *THAT* is Alpha to me. he’s like a tree who cannot be swayed by other’s thoughts, perceptions or opinions. He makes a choice, goes with it and takes the risk.

        You don’t have to convince me of anything. If the case you are making is that 40 year old women & older (who are not already married) should not look to try to snag Alpha type males – you get no argument from me!!

        I completely co-sign on that. no matter how hot or Alpha he is, it will not be worth her sanity or self esteem in the long run b/c I cannot imagine at this point in my life being with a man that sees me (and treats me) as inferior based on my age or being with a man that will constantly compare me to women half my age. its just NOT.WORTH.IT.

        What 40 year old and older women need to understand is, yes we like the lust and passion that may come with Alpha types more upfront, but at this age you need strong solid men who actually care about you and cannot be swayed by those who have judgements about them being with you b/c they are not dating younger women.

        Not only that, I feel that you cannot have both. You either have the hot stud who knocks you rocks off in the bedroom, or you get the quality guy who may not be like that Alpha is sexually, but he’s good enough to satisfy you and you have a decent sex life.

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      • on May 4, 2013 at 9:02 am peter.south80@yahoo.com

        That’s fine, you seem to have a lot invested in this. It’s not really a debate so you should do what you want. If you like old women you fuck them.

        Soldiers not caring what anyone else thinks is kind of funny tho.
        All they do is take orders, can I take your order sir? Would you like fries with that?

        Those guys spend 6 weeks letting some other guy insult them without punching him in the face, get cheated on all the time…The myth that these guys are alpha is kinda hilarious, they are the very definition of beta.

        You want a rube who will sacrifice himself for you get a soldier, sorry it’s true. They really care what women think, that’s for sure. Known so many soldiers who beg and plead with their wives.

        I’ve was in a couple situations with gang members and solders and cops are invariably scared shitless whereas I was unimpressed because I grew up fighting guys like this.

        They begged and pleaded with the gang members similar to how they talked to their wives.

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      • on May 4, 2013 at 1:24 pm Neecy

        I’m sorry you misunderstood. He isn’t an *actual* soldier I was using it in a metaphorical way. Usually soldiers are considered strong and un-movable.

        I guess I should have just said he is the type of guy who just doesn’t live by other people’s perceptions and opinions. He makes his own choices and does what he wants to do and follows his own heart.

        Hope that clears it up.

        Either way i wish you the best.

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      • on May 5, 2013 at 9:14 am John South

        I clearly didn’t misunderstand anything.

        Just dispelling the notion that soldiers live by their own perceptions and opinions.

        They follow orders all day long so it’s a strange comparison.

        Funny how female minds “work”. lol

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      • on May 5, 2013 at 10:55 am Neecy

        Well my “female mind” & perceptions of him matters in this b/c I am the one dating and screwing him. 😉

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      • on May 3, 2013 at 8:02 pm Neecy

        At this age 35+ *for women* it should be about balance. Now there are some women my age who simply really don’t want to deal with a man other than sexually, and these are the types who need the young hot studs and are willing to buy them or do whatever just to get what they want.

        But i think older women who do want relationships get caught up in thinking they can have BOTH and you just can’t. If an older woman wants that kind of lust filled passionate stallion like sex, she will have to accept that most likely he is not long term relationship material and he will not stick around. But if she is willing to understand that its RARE to get the quality guy who loves you and cares about you AND who is the amazing stallion stud in the bed, then she’s gonna be alright. If she wants both, she’s going to be in for a rude awakening, unless an act of GOD occurrs and drops one in her lap.

        face it, not all men who choose not to chase young women are losers. Sometimes they just don’t have the tolerance to deal with younger women and the kinds of issues that come with them or they may simply not want to spend time or energy pursuing sexual flings, or they may not want to compete with the more natural Alphas and bad boys who are dominating that age group.

        There are a variety of reasons why an individual male may simply choose not to purse the younger woman route. Its not just simply b/c he is a loser who can’t get young women.

        No offense but you do sound pretty jaded. And that is not something an older woman past prime should invite in her life. But younger women find Alphas more exciting b/c they are younger and have a better capacity and higher tolerance for strong playboy Alpha types and even characteristics that are selfish and a bit more aggressive. if a man is this way, he is better off pursuing younger women IMO.

        Younger women are much better equipped to deal with Alpha type males than a woman in her 40’s who tend to prefer more laid back, balanced men.

        At least i can only speak for myself.

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      • on May 5, 2013 at 9:41 am John South

        You may say he is not a loser but let’s face it.

        The guy is desperate enough to risk everything he’s worked for in life for an older woman, possibly even risking paying child support for another man’s kids if he’s a deadbeat.

        Wow, just wow. Think about it.

        Way different from celebrities or sugar mamas, completely different ball game for a man.

        As long as you make way more than he does I guess but then you are back to paying for it.

        So yes there is definitely desperation and lack of options involved here.

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      • on May 5, 2013 at 11:01 am Neecy

        Do you think older men are not paying to be with hot younger women as are older women paying to be with hot young men? It works both ways. Young hot women are not dating older men in droves b/c they are hot sexy studs. Alot of these men are seen by young attractive women as wallets with legs.

        Now if the age difference is 10 yrs or less that probably won’t be the case in any senario b/c 10 years and less is not a huge age difference. But anything more, you better believe he’s paying to play.

        There is *CLEARLY* something else to be gained (almost ALWAYS financially) in these pairings. He’s paying for her youth, she’s giving her youth and beauty for money and support. Same thing with older women and younger men.

        If you are old (male or female) , you have to PAY to play! Either that or you will be lucky enough to find someone close enough in age where that is not necessary.

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      • on May 5, 2013 at 9:10 pm John South

        Sure but older women are actually more expensive, they either have ticking clocks or existing children. This carries the risk of divorce rape.

        All men pay for sex, the currency depends. Thus, the only question is what kind of deal you can negotiate with what currency you have.

        You can either play your cards wisely or set yourself up for an ass kicking.

        Marrying an older woman is paying full price for a used car with a broken leg from her buddy guido the judge around the corner. She wants a house, SUV, all kinds of bullshit.

        The younger girl may be happy with a trip or something, much easier.

        Having money that attracts younger women is a much better deal.

        If a man marries a woman he’s giving her his whole paycheck in most cases all of his future earnings, bad deal.

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      • on May 5, 2013 at 9:18 pm John South

        Better to date attractive younger women a couple of socio economic classes lower, that way less money needed.

        Also helps if you look young for your age. I had a girlfriend who was 18 a few years ago and didn’t pay her anything or take her anywhere. She was literally half my age and still in high school.

        What I get from girls is the assumption that I am 25-28 years old. I’m 38.

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    • on May 2, 2013 at 3:31 pm Nicole

      Neecy, one more time, most people are sheep. You can’t read an article in which a person says that *generally* younger men who date older and older women who date younger are doing so because they’re the leftovers. Most of the guys here can’t read that without believing that somehow what they prefer (as opposed to what they do) is what makes them better than other people.

      When you learn to think more critically, you learn to let the prattle of believers roll off and focus on the do-ers: the ones who have had the life experience to get reality and understand that what the believers are reacting negatively to is other people attempting to thought police them into unnatural desires and behaviors.

      What to take away from posts like this is that it is a response to our being lied to. Men are being lied to that there is something wrong with them that they don’t see the “inner beauty” of a harpy who wasted her better years chasing noncommittal alpha cock. We women are also being lied to that we have the same options at 50 as at 20, which leads to the stupidity of wasting one’s better years.

      Remember where you are, and try to see this in context. Most of the guys here are either here because they were one of the leftovers getting passed over by girls their age, or because they can sympathize with them. Those guys are being pushed into a corner of loneliness, and told, “Why don’t you just lower your standards?”

      What does a woman say when you tell her that? Well, guys have the same answer: it’s not that they’re being told to get rid of unrealistic standards, but that they’re being told they should be the back-up plan of someone who wasted her life or screwed up her life because of over entitlement. They’re told they should not only love beyond looks or age, but beyond any semblance of trust, loyalty, or respect for their manhood.

      If all or even just a slightly significant majority of single women over 30 were available because they were widowed or unlucky, then this would be a different post. It would look much like Ben Franklin’s writings on older ladies, and maybe even more sympathetic because it’s 2013. This is not the case though. Now, the vast majority of women who are available over 30 are so because they are unsuitable for commitment. Aside of being wasters of their youths or overly picky, they are feminists sure to make a man miserable in many ways.

      So of course they would feel disgusted even looking at it from a distance.

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 4:07 pm Neecy

        At the end of the day its no ones business what two adults choose to do. People need to learn to simply mind their business.

        yes I get the fact that there are a lot of delusional older women who simply cannot understand some realities. I would never tell a younger woman she has the same available options in men that she would in her younger years and I would also and DO tell younger women to maximize their mating opportunities while they have a better advantage age wise and fertility wise. But sometimes the cards just don’t fall that way and some women blossom later in life. I looked worse in my 20’s than I do now! And I’m pushing 40.

        But the point is being a fkn asswipe going to make them change their minds? PROLLY NOT. Maybe making nice respectful posts about why younger women should not delude themselves into thinking as they age they have the same options in mates is a better route than making fun of old ass women who are making the most of their situations. Its MEAN and evil and Karma awaits those who talk shit and put down people who cannot control things like AGING and other natural forces that affect human beings.

        Make fun of fat people fine. FAT is more of a choice than a natural thing. But when you start literally being cruel to women who are AGING (a natural process) a nice bit fat dose of karma is awaiting your ass.

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 4:09 pm Neecy

        “I would never tell a younger woman she has the same available options in men that she would in her younger years ”

        Should actually read I would never tell a younger woman that she has the same available opportunities in men when her age doubles compared to her younger years.

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 11:43 pm Nicole

        I didn’t say their being asswipes was an ideal reaction, just a natural one. The reason why is that it may not be their business what two other people do with their genitals, but it is certainly their business that women in the younger age ranges are making themselves unavailable to the men most likely to both invest in them and be the dedicated alpha male of their families, in favor of non investors who may have alpha personalities but no interest in family life.

        It is their business when they are investing their time, sweat, and money in a society that tells them that this is how they will be assured a legacy, but then relegated to the leftovers. The builders of societies historically may not have always had the first pick, but of those who have lasted and remained cohesive, the average man still holds a lot of sway, can easily find a wife who hasn’t been used up.

        Accepting alternative relationships is great, but pressuring normal people to have them is not a good thing. Pressure on men to be anything but men is just not good.

        …and I say this as an unlucky older woman who is dating a younger man. I understand that this is not for the fragile ego-ed or low on personal responsibility, which is what most people are. Most people need their normalcy and stability, and to try to force them to be otherwise is as unnatural as it is to force a man to be a woman.

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      • on May 3, 2013 at 12:37 am Neecy

        I agree fully with the first two paragraphs of your post.

        but lemme ask you. If its not *NORMAL* for younger men to naturally desire and want to be with older women unless they are “LA_HOO_SERS!” Do you believe its *NORMAL* for women to date men twice their age in droves? if so, then who would the men these women’s age be left to dating and marrying and starting families with? is that *normal*?

        It reminds me of a conversation I had about 4 years ago with this guy from the geek squad. (lol). he came to my house to fix my computer and somehow we started talking about the sex offender list that many men get put on for being with women underage and younger.

        So I was the one who was a bit more lenient in saying “wellll ya know if the age difference isn’t that great I’m not going to ruin a man’s life forever. Now if its a huge age gap I will as a parent pursue the sex offender route if my daughter is still under age”. But i would first issue a warning to said fella that if he continues to see my daughter, I will pursue legal action.

        HE? He was totally like “absolutley NOT. If the guy is considered an adult and she is under age he is breaking the law and I would as a father purse the sexual offender route b/c he shouldn’t be pursuing and dating girls under the age limit when he has choices and options in women who are legal and his age”. Basically he was saying he didn’t care if it was a couple of years difference (the guy was say 18 and she was 16) he would still pursue the sex offender route. I was just. shocked.

        So I asked him why he felt that was necessary. And he said b/c its not fair to the young men in those girls age ranges who cannot get dates and such with them b/c the older guys are taking them away. That in high school he remembered all of the young girls around his age were often running off and dating guys who were much older than they were, and that it was difficult for most of him and the other guys their age to compete with these men b/c they were older, had more resources, cars and such to attract the girls.

        And that made me think. if men in their 40’s and up started IN DROVES dating and marrying and starting families with women half their age, then where does that leave the men in those young women’s age groups who also want to start families with these same women?

        Why is it *ABNORMAL* for younger men to date older women but not *ABNORMAL* for younger women to date older men???

        At any rate. My point is, people are going to do what they want to do. Shaming, ball busting is not going to make them change their lifestyles or behaviors.

        it is up to PARENTS to teach their daughters the importance of not squandering youth and fertility on losers. But its not being done. That is not the FAULT of single older women (who may not even have kids), but the fault of the PARENTS.

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      • on May 12, 2013 at 3:39 am Glengarry

        “Why is it *ABNORMAL* for younger men to date older women but not *ABNORMAL* for younger women to date older men???”

        Think about reproduction and resources, maybe you’ll figure it out.

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 5:45 pm Neecy

        At the end of the day, its no ones business what two adults choose to do. People need to learn to simply mind their business.

        yes I get the fact that there are a lot of delusional older women who simply cannot understand some realities. I would never tell a younger woman she has the same available options in men that she would in her younger years and I would also and DO tell younger women to maximize their mating opportunities while they have a better advantage age wise and fertility wise. But sometimes the cards just don’t fall that way and some women blossom later in life. I looked worse in my 20′s than I do now! And I’m pushing 40.

        But the point is being a fkn a$$wipe going to make them change their minds? PROLLY NOT. Maybe making nice respectful posts about why younger women should not delude themselves into thinking as they age they have the same options in mates is a better route than making fun of old a$$ women who are making the most of their situations. Its MEAN and evil and Karma awaits those who talk shit and put down people who cannot control things like AGING and other natural forces that affect human beings.

        Make fun of fat people fine. FAT is more of a choice than a natural thing. But when you start literally being cruel to women who are AGING (a natural process) a nice bit fat dose of karma is awaiting your arse.

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 11:00 pm n/a

        You’re very *rumbustious* today Miss Neecy; but let it be said that you are definitely looking tasty.–

        These pallid dudes think they can fuck with the Black Tsunami? 😉

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 11:04 pm Neecy

        I’m in rare form today for sure. Buttons and nipples are being pushed in all kinds of directions!! LMAO!!

        Don’t worry my bi polar self will come back tomorrow apologizing and playing kissy face and make up. 😆

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 11:09 pm n/a

        I’m heading over to your place right now.–

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 11:10 pm Neecy

        You have to make me mad first! 😡

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 11:11 pm n/a

        Go to your blog and I’ll make you all kinds of things.–

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 11:18 pm Neecy

        Oh i am soooooo glad you’re back *running over to my blog*

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      • on May 3, 2013 at 6:14 am itsme

        People need to learn to simply mind their business.

        do you suppose posting rants on a pua blog falls under this category?

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      • on May 3, 2013 at 9:56 am Neecy

        LOL I hate you. I do.

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    • on May 2, 2013 at 3:58 pm Klem

      If a guy is able to fuck a 40yr old as hot as Jennifer Lopez or Sofia Vergara, I’m pretty sure he is also able to fuck the much hotter, 20yr old version of these two women (don’t know if that makes sense, english is not my first language)

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 11:17 pm Neecy

        Not disputing that. i am making a point that 40 year old women are still attractive by sexual mating standards. Many today are taking care of themselves and still have many of the physical attractive traits of younger women.

        Look, I could care less about dudes who only want younger women. But I simply can’t understand why you are so concerned about older women, when they aren’t even on your radar????? The fact you take pleasure in demeaning women who you claim to have no interest in, says a lot about YOU and your character and the fact that maybe you are not happy with your life or the options you really don’t have.

        men who simply desire women in their 20’s are not on my radar AT ALL so who you screw and date is of no consequence to moi. I don’t sit around dissing old men who believe they still look like Chris Evans and are not pulling women simply based on their wallets. (oh wait I just did! lol)

        I believe in appealing to your target niche. If for me at 39 that is beta guys who simply don’t want to spend the time and energy competing for hot young women with men who are more alpha, have more money or whatever then FINE BY ME!

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 11:47 pm Nicole

        The much hotter 20 year old may be looking for more than just a fuck, so maybe not.

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  35. on May 2, 2013 at 1:59 am Scray

    Adventures in following YaReally’s advice:

    So, I’ve heard over and over again — when they look to someone else for validation, don’t give it. Hold your frame. HOLD THE LINE, SON.

    Anyway, I say Jessica6.5 (who btw, I’m still a complete social retard interacting with…I just barely am managing to get invited out to do stuff like see movies etc with that group lol) is making things awkward, she says ‘no, I’m not.’

    Oh btw, lol…YaReally is so right. Like, literally, almost every interaction — when I hold my frame — comes down to ‘nuh uh’ ‘uh huh’ ‘nuh uh.’

    But so be it I’m like ‘ya you’re lookin real awkward right now. Pretty weird.’ and so goes the ‘nuh uh’ ‘uh huh.’ Then, this guy sits down and immediately she’s like ‘HEY, he said I looked awkward…’ and immediately the guy’s like ‘no, you look real sexy. I mean, no offense Scray, but she looks way sexier than you…’

    Frame Battle…..FIGHT….

    I just start rubbing myself, my chest, reacting to how sexy I am, and I’m just like ‘wait….what…’ — but I keep in my mind not to play it for any laughs at all. Like, in my mind I literally am repeating -Iamsosexyfuckimsosexy-

    He responds ‘ya…ha, okay, well if we were to take a poll of all the hands here’

    ‘take all the hands you want, here, hands across america, i don’t give a shit….im sexy as FUCK…’

    J6.5 is like….nervously laughing now

    Him ‘ya bro, well…look, I’m just saying that she’s – – -‘

    I lift my bicep slowly and widen my eyes ‘w-whaat…’ as if I’m staring at the most awesome thing ever. Everyone else is just dying — REACTING — to what I’m doing, not to what he’s saying or doing.

    Him ‘well…you are pretty smokin’, I mean, I gotta give you that…that is true’

    Frame Battle….WON….

    Me (completely stops, smirks, shrugs) Ha, I’m just fucking with ya.

    And for one sweet second, I dominated that group.

    Adventures in wanting to FOAD —

    So Cute7 apparently told GLMCG that I’m weird and say ‘weird’ things to her. Now, who knows what that means? Well….thanks to this handy-dandy chart -I- know:

    https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/04/27/better-than-again-the-female-secret-code-decoder-dictionary/

    wiseass >>> funny >>> clown >>> goofy >>> quirky >>> WEIRD

    …

    Now, GLMCG’s advice was pretty much ‘yeah, bro don’t try too hard. You’re cool enough as you are, just chill man. Don’t assume you aren’t cool. Look at me, I just chill. If you just keep flirting with people like that who clearly aren’t interested, you’ll alienate them.’

    So….
    Now, I just have two voices in my head. One’s like ‘Fuck that. Wow a good looking naturally cool guy is telling you to be yourself? Eat shit, you suck and this is the way to not suck. Hold on to your frame no matter what — you’re a guy who is sexual and that’s that. Whenever you run into her, calibrate as best you can to get what YOU want out of her…learn the skillset. She’s just one isolation and a half hour of solid game away from making a bad decision with you. Don’t give an inch…you must crucify yourself to see these results.’

    The other one’s more like ‘maaaan, fuck it dude! She’s not into it, she’s whining about you behind your back, you could take a huge hit, just cut the losses and move on. When you see her be nice, be chill, be friendly…just stay off her radar, or accept the LJBF frame. No big deal.’

    >(

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    • on May 2, 2013 at 10:10 am FuriousFerret

      The only thing I can tell you is stop giving a fuck what a woman thinks especially random ones. So if she calls you weird or creepy or loser. Remember the source. It’s a god damned adult with the mind of a child insulted you. Would you care if a 10 year old called you a poo poo head? So no more Calculon ‘Noooos’ because it doesn’t matter. Her opinion is better much worthless.

      You are the prize not her. Don’t even worry about impressing her. Your attitude is one of ‘Hey ladies, you all are in luck. Very very valuable Scray cock is on sale and one of you shoppers might be the lucky one to take it home”.

      If you are weirding her out and you failed with this one but gave it your best shot, sucks to be her doesn’t it. Don’t let a few chicks fuck with your head, it’s too small of a sample.

      “So Cute7 apparently told GLMCG that I’m weird and say ‘weird’ things to her. Now, who knows what that means? Well….thanks to this handy-dandy chart -I- know:”

      So Cute7 complained that a guy hit on her. First, Cute7’s is probably an entitled princess who without being a Cute 7 would be lying in some gutter somewhere. Her main talent in life is A)She has tits, vag and ass B) She knows how to lie on her back. Beyond that she doesn’t really offer the world much value. The proof is in the pudding. Would a quality woman really run off and complain to your friends that a creepy beta is hitting on her or would a spoiled brat who doesn’t care about anybody else image and rep do that?

      Your instincts are right about GLMCG. Don’t listen to what he says. Don’t care if he is doesn’t like she tried to run game and failed. He should be supporting Scray’s pussy fest 2013 not working to undermine it.

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 12:43 pm Scray

        Ya, it’s not about her. It’s just about trying to check my calibration, work on my mechanics, etc. Don’t get me wrong, I’d rather be mentioned in -some- way behind my back rather than how it used to be…which would just be nothing.

        Since starting this I’ve had minor success. Actually, literally it’s been a lay, a few day two’s, and a few makeouts. So….I’ve started doing -something- right. But, you know, the Field is throwing my weaknesses back into my face.

        I imagine ‘weird’ is similar to creepy in that I’m probably putting out a sexual vibe before building enough attraction, or specifically — DHVing.

        ‘Your attitude is one of ‘Hey ladies, you all are in luck. Very very valuable Scray cock is on sale and one of you shoppers might be the lucky one to take it home”.’

        Ya…not gonna lie, I don’t quite have that yet. I just know that if I work on it every day in some way, I’ll get better.

        ‘Would a quality woman really run off and complain to your friends that a creepy beta is hitting on her or would a spoiled brat who doesn’t care about anybody else image and rep do that?’

        Eh, I’d kind of expect any woman to complain about a guy they perceive as lower value to a guy they perceive as higher value. Quality/not-quality. I’ve actually kind of let go of judging women for this shit. It’s just how the world works.

        Like, it’s an almost paradox, right? On the one hand, I see what you’re saying…’ya if she doesn’t get it, fuck her’ is cool for inner game. But at the same time….I think David Lee Roth said it best about rock n’roll ‘if you can’t do it with a guitar out in a parking lot, you can’t do it at all.’

        Same concept here — I mean, if I’m failing to attract even this warm/social circle 7, then ya, it’s probably good to examine some outer game stuff. On the inside, ya always remember that you’re high value. But try to focus on conveying that in the outer game. I remember reading somewhere on CH that your outer game influences your inner game too. Body language or something.

        I really appreciate the comments though and you taking the time to share. I tend to apply whatever advice I get in one way or another.

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  36. on May 2, 2013 at 2:23 am Scray

    Ha. I do have a friend who swears that he ‘honestly’ likes older women….

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  37. on May 2, 2013 at 2:37 am magnus

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellen_Ternan

    Charles Dickens left his wife for an 18 year old actress.

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    • on May 2, 2013 at 11:10 am Greg Eliot

      Why, that little Dickens!

      He left his Bleak House for her… with Great Expectations for future nookery.

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 2:15 pm Matthew King

        It was a sale of two titties, exchanging the droopers for the perkies.

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 8:54 pm Greg Eliot

        ‘Twas the beast of Thames, ’twas the wurst of Thames.

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    • on May 2, 2013 at 12:29 pm Hector

      Dating an 18 year old when you’re 45 is substantially easier if you’re a celebrity like Dickens was

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    • on May 2, 2013 at 1:14 pm Hector

      Dating an 18 year old at 45 is awesome, but it’s harder to do if you’re not a celebrity like Dickens was.

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      • on May 3, 2013 at 8:39 am Anonymous

        A little harder but not much if you’ve been reading this blog.

        One often has to add money to sweeten the deal at that age but it still takes game, because a man isn’t alpha if she isn’t low count, which means he gets not points for going after those he knows are mercenary.

        The cougar deals one hears about mostly don’t involve intercourse.

        The cougar just implies that was going on.

        The young man is also the only one receiving.

        I knew this dynamic first hand when I was a young beta buck.

        The cougar leaves such details out when she says she dated him.

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  38. on May 2, 2013 at 5:52 am ConnubialBliss

    One side of the coin: I knew a couple where the woman was about 35 and the kid she married was all of 19. She was exceptionally hot for her age, and had a great paying job. I know their marriage endured for several years, but have no idea where they are now. Most likely divorced.

    The other side of the coin: I’ve been trying to introduce my father to the red pill, but there is no hope for the man. After Mom died, he finally found a woman willing to have regular sex with him by getting with a 75 year old “hottie” 15 years his elder. I really feel sorry for his girlfriend, because let’s face reality, any woman getting some dick from a guy willing to bone a 75 year old is aiming so low there really needs to be a letter after omega to describe what a loser he is.

    That being said, I feel much better about myself. I have no accomplishments to brag about that would be of any interest to any of you, but dammit, I pinched a cute redhead’s ass the other night and she giggled instead of slapping the shit out of me. I AM making progress to outlive the shitty legacy of being raised the product of a union between a sub-omega and a brutal ball-crushing harpy.

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  39. on May 2, 2013 at 6:46 am hey_wilber

    Why do some of these post-wall women go after younger men?

    One word – Hysterectomy. (Just a guess in this aging hamster and others)
    Levels of testosterone decrease by 50% after the procedure. Judicious testosterone therapy has produced a direct and sustained improvement in sexual drive, arousal, and frequency of sexual fantasies. They have lost their baby-maker and now feel less of a woman for it. Toss in a nice dollop of testosterone in their feeble minds and they are delusional of their SMV again.
    Be sure to have a economy-size bottle of KY standing by…that thing is dead.

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  40. on May 2, 2013 at 7:19 am BuenaVista

    Because of my age, which is 55, if I am dating online I get barraged with inquiries from the 55-60 gang. The general tenor is, “If you are a progressive man, you will be attracted to me, for I have wisdom and a magic vagina.” There appears to be zero recognition that a successful relationship has a sexual aspect, that someone like me will never be able to get it up for them. (Don’t even think about cunnilingus, I’ll lose my breakfast.) Thus the hamster is telling these women that because they hold certain feminist principles near and dear, I’m supposed to want to do them three times a night.

    To these women there is no SMP. There is a sexual healing seminar, and you men take your shoes off at the door and sit quietly while we instruct you.

    If I am out on the town, or in a professional situation, people don’t know my age and women in the 30 – 45 cohort willingly flirt and open to me. This cohort would seem to be my biological match. That is what the SMP is telling me, and markets are efficient. (I’m not going to be yet one more asshole and say “I don’t look my age.”) Sometimes down to mid-twenties. Anyway, the sweet spot for me is 35 – 45: I can conduct a real conversation and many, many women take better care of themselves at 40 than they did at 20 — so I want to do them *at least* three times a night.

    Now, online, that same cohort (30-45) is hung up on my age, which I never lie about. They assume I lie with my pictures, and it’s a status-ranking thing for the educated girls I go after to *not* date an older guy. I get maybe 80% response rate with women 50 and over, declining linearly at about 3-4 points per year to 35. But again, it’s not like that at all on the street or at work, where women simply respond to my image and presentation. So this age thing is arbitrary, ubiquitous, and powerful. Perhaps it’s obvious and trite, but the whole point of leftist ideology, often, is to deny the existence of the true information presented by markets.

    In my world, the older woman/younger man idea is just another ideological fabrication and shit test that is thrown out to guilt-trip a guy who thinks he should be PC and therefore should pretend to be interested in someone who is angry, old and desperate. This bullying and shaming must work, or else it wouldn’t be so prevalent. Just as some people think that driving a Prius makes them sensitive to Gaia, so they don’t mind how dirty it is in its production and disposal, there must be a birkenstock-wearing cohort of Julie Collins-loving men who want the progressive sheen of having bad sex with someone they’re not attracted to. I just don’t think this phenomenon is apocryphal. Toyota sells a lot of Prius’s.

    It certainly ruins about half of the online experience, as it’s not possible to delete or hide emails or profiles fast enough, and certain gruesome images do make their way into one’s brain. It would seem to be a point of honor for progressive, educated women to date their age or below; if you challenge it in any way, prepare for shaming. Apparently, again, a lot of older women are shaming their way to the bedroom. I don’t believe this is a mythical condition as CH notes. I just wish I had the ability to wave a wand and not experience its more aggressive features.

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    • on May 3, 2013 at 9:44 am corvinus

      If I am out on the town, or in a professional situation, people don’t know my age and women in the 30 – 45 cohort willingly flirt and open to me. This cohort would seem to be my biological match. That is what the SMP is telling me, and markets are efficient.

      In my own case, although I’m 31, it’s women in the 19-24 range. If they’re older than that, they tend to have serious boyfriends or are married, and what’s more, act toward me as if they’re older than me.

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  41. on May 2, 2013 at 9:27 am Georgia Boy

    The feminism-drenched fluff media industry. Yeah, that’s the phrase I was looking for to describe the wealthy single mommy blog. Empty drivel written by overly proud of themselves attention whores who never bothered to develop excellence at anything other than (usually) proper English grammar, and think the world is enriched by yet another essay about their unremarkable lives.

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  42. on May 2, 2013 at 10:29 am gunslingergregi

    Guy pretends to be a celebrity in a mall, hundreds of girls’ vaginas drench on cue. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9Ko6Xfa84w …””””””

    that was ownage

    ”””””The ad is not that good, but holy shit is it anti-Cathedral. Created by a rapper who I guess doesn’t know better. youtube.com/watch?v=T8-SaU… 1 hour ago ”””””

    almost every tube you post get taken off lol too mch power

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    • on May 2, 2013 at 1:12 pm Captain Zapp Brannigan

      Try this link to “Most Racist TV Commercial in History”
      http://vimeo.com/65297618

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  43. on May 2, 2013 at 12:33 pm Rationaliseringshamster | Yasers hörna

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  44. on May 2, 2013 at 3:19 pm matrix_reboot

    In the Midwest the fatocalypse is so bad that even hot young alphas are doing the in-shape 40-50 year olds.

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    • on May 2, 2013 at 4:06 pm Hector_St_Clare

      I live in the Midwest, but in a college town (between two college towns, actually, I’m an academic). So most of the women I see are pretty good looking and in shape.

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    • on May 2, 2013 at 4:10 pm Nicole

      Alphas have always done in-shape older women. Not every last one of them does, but enough of them do that again, if a guy isn’t relevant, they are not missed.

      The only way you can keep alphas from not shagging older women is by being married to and having kids with those older women when they’re young, keeping them away from bitter bitches, and shagging them yourselves.

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      • on May 2, 2013 at 4:12 pm Nicole

        I meant the only way you can keep them from shagging older women. Writing fails when I’m tired.

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  45. on May 2, 2013 at 9:14 pm kvoorhees4

    We’ll see more girls dating younger guys but not younger by much, 5 years or less. It will be the girl who is more reluctant to overcome the age difference. If she is well educated and has a nice career or career prospects, its kind of natural for her to be with a younger man rather than someone who is older and more domineering.

    I am old and married many years so I don’t have any personal investment in the issue. I think relationships where the man is much older than the woman (say, more than a dozen years older) are much less appealing and I’m sure most people agree. Theres something pathetic on the female’s part and distasteful on the males part in a relationship where he is so much older. I’ve seen many of these relationships and the woman “ages” herself to make the relationship less distasteful to people who see them. A 25 year old woman married to a 40 year old man will act and look 40 within a few years.

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    • on May 3, 2013 at 8:49 am Anonymous

      Troll comment? Anyway…no. If there’s more than a 15 year difference, the man will be alpha enough to command that the woman go to the gym more even if she’s only 19. He will want her to look as young as possible. I know this first hand. I’m a slave driver when it comes to telling my harem to go to the gym (sometimes the same one – they don’t know each other).

      Pathetic on the female’s part? What planet have you been on?

      Oh yes, the feminist part of the first world.

      There is a wider world out there, where people behave naturally.

      And naturally is for the best looking young women to go for the leader’s of the various tribes. Those aren’t likely to be young bucks.

      Distasteful on the male’s part? Do you know what blog you’re on? Do you think the blogger here is like “Welll guys, you know, you should learn how to game to get younger, hotter, tighter but quit just as you’re getting it down because, ya know, you’d be getting on in years and it would start to look distasteful”.

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    • on May 3, 2013 at 9:06 am Anonymous

      I am old and married many years so I don’t have any personal investment in the issue.

      But it would seem that you do have personal investment from what you wrote after that about the younger women being “pathetic” for dating older men.

      If you’re a woman who is “old and married many years” your investment in the hubby is threatened by the very idea that a younger woman might take him, even temporarily. It’s in your interest to propagate the meme that it’s cool for women to date their own age or younger.

      If you’re an old man, your investment would be in not regretting the path you took in monogamy and lack of exercise, including the (I assume) fact that you didn’t use your forties, fifties and early sixties to grab your last chances at extra-marital fun with still nubile women.

      The latter is the most dangerous type of human being for men (threat to the alpha lifestyle). This is the type that works with the old hags to pass laws making it hard for older men to be with younger women and this is the type that helps the hags create a culture where it’s greatly frowned upon for age difference relationships to happen.

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  46. on May 3, 2013 at 4:34 am Mokub

    Master Roosh – keep preaching, continue with the mass education of nuking the hamster!!! Loved this post! Made my day.

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  47. on May 3, 2013 at 10:13 am Alpha Philosopher

    One of the funniest posts in a while, and brutally true.

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  48. on May 3, 2013 at 11:34 am Anonymous

    Heartiste, I love you! 😉

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  49. on May 5, 2013 at 11:28 am Opus

    One of Heartiste’s best and funniest! I remember what Roy Masters (of the FHU) used to say, ‘marrying an older woman – of your own age – is like marrying your Mother’. How much worse then if you are that much younger, and we all know that whatever other advantages the older woman may have, you would drop her like a hot cake if a young hot woman showed interest in you. Of course older women likethe attentions of younger men, but I suspect that is largely because it fools them – and persuades their girlfriends – that they are younger and hotter than they really are.

    An older woman with a younger man not only says that the guy cannot do better, but that the woman can’t acquire (or hold) a Man of Status. It’s a lose-lose situation masquerading as mutual desirability whereas it is actually the Plan B (or Plan Z of two losers.

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  50. on May 7, 2013 at 2:48 am Madge X. Burks

    The mature woman of today is not looking for the picket fence and the two car family, especially if she has already spent her earlier years doing just that, so not too many older women are looking to have more babies. However, if she has never been married and is ready to start a family, she may find a younger man with a less-developed career who would be willing to follow her and be a stay-at-home-dad. For the most part, younger men find older women more interesting and fun to talk to. They find that their older girlfriends are more experimental and eager to try new things and to go to different places. Whatever the reasons may be, younger men are dating older women because they want to. There isn’t any one reason for younger men dating older women. It could be a combination of many reasons. Maybe trying to put an explanation to it is a waste of time. Men and women are getting together and dating, when two people get together and find out they both have a lot in common and they like being together, why should they let a little thing like age break them up? Life is hard enough as it is, when two people find happiness with each other, who’s business is it anyway? Age should have nothing to do with two people being happy.

    [CH: THe wishful thinking is strong in this comment.]

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  51. on May 7, 2013 at 11:03 pm Lightning Round – 2013/05/08 | Free Northerner

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  52. on May 18, 2013 at 2:47 pm Buck

    Older woman/younger guy…two words…effortless pussy!

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