Drive-by hater “k8″ whiningly demurs:
Has it ever occurred to you, that this “game theory” stuff is just another way of appeasing women?
Has it ever occurred to you that make-up is just another way women appease men? Has it ever occurred to you that men must make more conspicuous up-front effort to attract women than women must make to attract men because of the inherent differences in the nature of the sexes?
It’s the same as the men who claim to be feminists; both are changing their behaviour (or rather putting on a ridiculous act) to please some chick.
The difference is that men who claim to be feminists to win pussy are pursuing a flawed strategy, unless the pussy they want to win is fat, ugly and unfeminine.
I think the real alpha thing to do would be to stick to who you are, and if the woman doesn’t like it, move on.
“Just be yourself.”
I’m aware that attractive women do gravitate towards certain kinds of personality, isn’t it far more important to be honest with yourself than to have sex with attractive women?
Good salesmanship is not dishonesty. And that’s what the sexual market requires of men: an ability to sell themselves to women.
We here at CH have noticed an uptick lately in game and sexual market denialist hate. The shrillness of the hater crowd has reached fever pitch, and that’s a strong tell that they know their carefully cultivated worldview is coming under attack. Good. There’s nothing like the smell of desperation in the morning.
Here’s a suggestion for the perspiring haters who find themselves scampering into this happy hating ground: First, know that you are up against an enemy the likes of which you have never encountered before. Second, learn to distinguish between is and ought. The Chateau revels in the fun of laying bare the clanking gears of reality and observing the result as the crisis of a thousand consciences unfolds, but that doesn’t necessarily mean we like the world this way, or would want the world, if we had our druthers, to be this way. CH simply gives you the Word; what you do with the Word is your prerogative.
If you can manage that simple distinction without experiencing a mental breakdown like a hysterical woman-child, then you may discover the vitriol in your cragged keyboard fingers dissipating as illumination swarms over you and the lightness of the Chateau’s love makes your heart grow three sizes today.
Ps On the subject of schooling game and sexual market denialist haters, see commenter Steve Johnson (scroll toward the end) in this Steve Sailer thread. The stevedore Steves of hatecargo full of truth.
No, the hater is right. I’ve decided to “just be myself.”
For my next job interview, I’m gonna show up in sweats with a bag of Doritos. That’s me, after all.
When I need to go to a wedding and make a speech, I’ll just sit and watch TV. No need to turn on the charm because that would be being a phony. The real me just sits there.
And when it comes to dealing with friends, I’ll just say whatever pops into my mind, no editing, because that’s being myself. So instead of “Hey, dude!” it will be “Fatass,” “Loser,” or perhaps even “Kike” or “Wop.”
Yes, this “being yourself” thing is really great. I’m a regular Dale Fucking Carnegie, winning friends and influencing feminists.
[CH: Fucking hardcore.]
“I think the real alpha thing to do would be to stick to who you are, and if the woman doesn’t like it, move on.”
Actually, there’s a fundamentally important core kernel of truth in that sentiment: It really is absolutely imperative that you be yourself around chicks.
But then the question becomes: Just who are you, and then, given who you are, why would any chick ever wanna get involved with you?
‘Cause if, deep down in your heart of hearts, you really are a beta herbling pussified loser, then lotsa luck with trying to close the sale when that’s all ya got on your line card.
On the other hand, if you’re sick and tired of looking in the mirror and seeing that sorry-assed pathetic loser of a cock-sucker staring back at you, then the Dark Enlightenment just might have some of the answers that you’re looking for.
Way too advanced an idea for this crowd. Keep it simpler. This is the place where we go over basics (and over and over and over).
So k8 (Kate?) has a chip on his shoulder, and he’s a terrible advocate. But when do we get to advance the ball already? If the hater is so tiresome, why engage his kind for the hundredth time?
Even if it’s still amusing to burn ants with a magnifying glass, let’s just go on to the next step, and tell him, “Here remain with your uncertainty.” It’s like trying to explore astrophysics but constantly finding ourselves in an argument with with mongoloids about arithmetic.
Thus we debase
The nature of our seats and make the rabble
Call our cares fears; which will in time
Break ope the locks o’ the senate and bring in
The crows to peck the eagles. …
You common cry of curs! whose breath I hate
As reek o’ the rotten fens, whose loves I prize
As the dead carcasses of unburied men
That do corrupt my air, I banish you;
And here remain with your uncertainty!
Let every feeble rumour shake your hearts!
Your enemies, with nodding of their plumes,
Fan you into despair! Have the power still
To banish your defenders; till at length
Your ignorance, which finds not till it feels,
Making not reservation of yourselves,
Still your own foes, deliver you as most
Abated captives to some nation
That won you without blows! Despising,
For you, the city, thus I turn my back:
There is a world elsewhere.
It was always thus. Only now the curs have wormed their way into positions of authority to vote themselves more and greater lollipops, to shriek out like women whenever their ignorance is not addressed, as if it’s our responsibility to get every twat and twit up to speed with The Knowledge.
The internet is the great equalizer, the most democratic thing ever invented. But we need less mob-think now, not more of it. Fewer common cries of curs, no more wide-open forums for them to air their idiocies. We need a patrician class and a plebeian class. Having to defend hard-won privilege at every niggling turn is tedious and wasteful and distracting and boring. So little Timmy K8 doesn’t get it. Let’s slow down the locomotive so he can get on?
Just get the fuck out of our face already.
Matt
^Full Metal Jacket
I was going to train for a job but I decided just to be myself instead.
yo yo yo drop me a beat heartiste
yo yo yo
da hatersz gonna hate
hate the heartiste so great
they have a bernankifed womenz in their fate
but for now they just masterbate
da hatersz gonna hate
though heartiste didn’t fill their plate
the table was set by feminist freight
they make you wait while they gain weight
make you wait for what they gave for free
when they were younger hotter tighter
and now you have got to pay a fee
for what da gbfm got 4 free when it was 50 pounds lighter
da hatersz gonna hate
homer shakespeare moses and jesus
to please their churchian elders so great
who deconstructed the honor of zeus
da haterz gonna hate
when you demand what your forefatherz had
a virginal wife who don’t need butthext to sate
who won’t seize your kids when u become a dad
a woman who wasn’t buttehxted bernankiifed in college
a woman who don’t hate GBFM knowledge
women who weren’t taught to seize your assets
after they bernankified them in their asses
da little hatersz gonna hate
as their single mommies taught them to do
hate is the primary beta schlub’s trait
as his mommy was desouled through her hole for poo.
lzozolozlololozolzozzlozlzlzoz
LMAOOOOO!!!That’d make a better track than most songs out there now
lzoozzooozozozozoz
revised:
yo yo yo drop me a beat heartiste
yo yo yo
da butthurt hatersz gonna hate
hate da heartiste so great
dey have a bernankifed womenz in their fate
but for now dey just masterbate
da hatersz gonna hate
though heartiste didn’t fill their plate
the table was set by feminist freight
who make you wait while they gain weight
make you wait for what they gave 4 free
when they were younger hotter tighter
and now you have got to pay a fee
for what da gbfm got 4 free when it was 50 pounds lighter
da butthurt hatersz gonna hate
homer shakespeare moses and jesus
to please their churchian elders oh so great
who deconstructed the honor of zeus
da haterz gonna hatez
when you demand what your forefatherz had
a virginal wife who don’t need butthext to sate
who won’t seize your kids when u become a dad
a woman who wasn’t buttehxted bernankiifed in college
a woman who don’t hate GBFM knowledge
women who weren’t taught to seize your assets
after dey bernankified them in their asses
da little hatersz gonna hate
as their single mommies taught them to do
hate is the primary butthurt beta schlub’s trait
as his mommy was desouled through her hole for poo.
she was bernankifed in college
so the beenrnkae state could tell her what to do
divorced & exiled your FATHER’s gbfm knowledge
dates a biker who serves her hole for poo.
yes da fanboy butthurt haterz gonna hate
hate heartistez for opening their eyesz
with the truth that sets us free so great
but da butthurtz haterz perfer da butthext Matrix’s liez
lzozolozlololozolzozzlozlzlzoz
Morpheus: The Fiat lozllolozllzzl butthex Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. lzozozozozl! But when you’re inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, bloggers, teachers, betas, lawyers, herbs, carpenters, and neocon womenz writing for the weekly standard, repeating the fiat lies of secretive tapers of butthex without teh girls conthent lzozlzlzlzl. The very minds and anusholes of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that butthex system and that makes them our anus’s lozlzlzozzozozl enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unbuttplugged. And many of them are so inured to butthex, so hopelessly dependent on the system of secretive tapings of butthex without tehir conthent, that they will fight to protect it and reapet the lies of secretive tapers of butthex in teh pages of the weekly standard even though they seem to be nice neocon ladies.
[Neo’s eyes suddenly wander towards a woman in a red dress]
Morpheus: Were you listening to me, Neo? Or were you looking at the woman in the red dress (woman as temptress in the heor’s journey myth) who was desouled via copious fiat-funded butthex from butthexers celerbated in teh pages of the weekly standard?
Neo: I was…
Morpheus: [gestures with one hand] Look again.
[the desouled, massively-butthexed woman in the red dress is now a bestselling new york times author, pointing a cock at Neo’s ass; Neo ducks]
Morpheus: Freeze it.
[Everybody and everything besides Neo and Morpheus freezes in time]
Neo: This… this isn’t the butthex Matrix?
Morpheus: No. It is another training program designed to teach you one thing: if you are not one of us lozlzlzlzlers, you are one of them butthexers.
lozlzlzl
yo yo yo drop me a beat heartiste
yo yo yo
da butthurt hatersz gonna hate
hate da heartiste so great
dey have a bernankifed womenz in their fate
but for now dey just masterbate
da hatersz gonna hate
though heartiste didn’t fill their plate
the table was set by feminist freight
who make you wait while they gain weight
make you wait for what they gave 4 free
when they were younger hotter tighter
and now you have got to pay a fee
for what da gbfm got 4 free when it was 50 pounds lighter
da butthurt hatersz gonna hate
homer shakespeare moses and jesus
to please their churchian elders oh so great
who deconstructed the honor of zeus
da haterz gonna hatez
when you demand what your forefatherz had
a virginal wife who don’t need butthext to sate
who won’t seize your kids when u become a dad
a woman who wasn’t buttehxted bernankiifed in college
a woman who don’t hate GBFM knowledge
women who weren’t taught to seize your assets
after dey bernankified them in their asses
da little hatersz gonna hate
as their single mommies taught them to do
hate is the primary butthurt beta schlub’s trait
as his mommy was desouled through her hole for poo.
she was bernankifed in college
so the beenrnkae state could tell her what to do
divorced & exiled your FATHER’s gbfm knowledge
dates a biker who serves her hole for poo.
yes da fanboy butthurt haterz gonna hate
hate heartistez for opening their eyesz
with the truth that sets us free so great
but da butthurtz haterz perfer da butthext Matrix’s liez
lzoozlzoozozlzoz
da hatersz gonna hate the Truth
but time and rhyme doth offer proof
you don’t need to be no supersleuth
but just watch the magician heartiste go poof
da fed central banks always play both sides
crushing the nice beta guy in the middle
funding both porn and feminist alpha cock rides
then the beta they collectively diddle
blaming the nice beta guy for their sore buttholes
announcing they’re entitled to the beta’s taxes
he never got his cockas in any of her holes
and poetic the white night beta waxes
as the women run around with felons
and rhianna runs on back to chris brown
ruled by butt and gina tingle turn ons
in da gina juices civivilzation doth drown
then they accuse the beta of sexual harrassment
for simply asking a single mom on a date
as she and bernaneke grow the government
she banged an alpha last month, now she’s late
and they fund all the white knight manginas
who blame all of mankind from the TED stage
as the technocrats never, ever pause
in their leveling assault on Achilles’ NOBLE RAGE.
as they deconstruct and outlaw manhood
and laud and applaud every manboob
as the fed must convert its fiat debt into property
sending fmeinists forth to seize beta pay
promsing womenz all the buttcockng they want
before during and after marriage
the fed’s wealth transfer from betas they front
as men from ebernakes law shools they disparage
lzozolozlololozolzozzlozlzlzoz
da little ritalinz addicted fanboy beta schlubs
mashing buttonz in their sngle mom’s basements
hating heartiste while whacking in the tub
an voting for bigger governmentz
da butthurtz fatherless fanboy bloggers
whiney whiney developing smartphone apps
which dey wish would make them scroggerz
letting tehir women be deosuled through her hole for craps
raging and seething against the great books for men
like a butthurt churchian with closed eyes
taught to hate every great who raised a pen
taught that jesus forgives them for their lies
taught worngly that jesus came to abolish the law
taught that moses’ law no longer applies
they hate and attack heartistez tooth and claw
as the western heritage their noble fatherz bequeathed them dies
little fanboy churchian beta schlubz
attacking heartsets out of jealousy
because deep down they know the rub they must rub
while da heartisetz getsz da pussies for free
fro which da beta schlubz must some pay a fee
which they will do like a white knight gallantly
and on the stage at TED they will be
helpding the FED end the West for the Free
paving the way for the fiat banker tyranny
as the churchians attack GBFM from sea to shinging sea
and teach all that Christ hated Moses’ poetry
using Christ as a mere gimmick to fill their cofferz
while in the back room back door they boff her
and tell and preach to their congregation
that their fornication is for the nation
that jseus forgives them for theiur buttsexual machinations
that all the single moms childrens born by thugs
must now be paid for by all the betas
it’s time for betas to man up with manly hugs
let their manboobs touch in teh embrace of omegas
time for betas to man up and marrry the slutz
to foot the billz as slaves for aothers spawn
take all the risk and get none of the buttz
for tis a brave new world and a brave new dawn
as the fiat masters deconstrcued property rightz
and the fiat debt creators ruled via fiat power
as the west faded into a long, dark long night,
while the betas hated heartiste into tehir last hour.
as they had been drugged up on ritalin and dumbed down
taught to hate GBFM and feel guilty for honor and truth
and now the west in their self beta pity doth drown
as they ignodred every sign which offred proof.
as teh little chruchian turned against what could help them,
the butthurt chruchian raged against Homer and Jesus,
the butthurt fanboy chruchian raged against the GBFM pen,
as they tried to exalt their butthext over Zeus.
lzozozozoozozozozozzloz
he inspired me, to all newbies to manga, i will do a remake of his style, but is an adaptation to a manga contex,here
everyone, continuing with my agenda of promoting all asian things, i say to you, all men should begin immediately by reading the following mangas which the central anti otaku and their fellows hate, fear, and detest:
0. NARUTO
1. Skip Beat
2. Bleach
3. One Piece
4. Fairy Tail
5. Sailor Moon
6. Death Note
7. Attack on Titan
8. Tiger Bunny
9. Yuyu Hakusho
10. Hunter x Hunter
11. Soul Eater
12. Magi
13. Fullmetal Alchemist
14. Dragon Ball
15. NARUTO
And as men are reading the Great mangas for Men, they must start enacting their principles in the living world, so as to exalt our legal system and universities, for it is not enough to think and read, but virtue is ultimately defined by *action*.
Do not fail to Honor the japanese manga authors by neglecting to live for the Classical, Epic Honor that so many of them not only Lived for, but Died For. Do not turn away from the vast Gifts they bequeathed you with–THE GREAT MANGAS AND CLASSICS, Begin today my firendz. BEGIINZ TODAYZ
I used to skip over the GBFM posts, but this guy is growing on me.
datsz what she saidz!!!
“I used to skip over the GBFM cockasz, but this guy is growing in me.”
lzozozozozozozozozoz
I always skip over him. If he can’t write coherent English, or string sentences together, he isn’t worth wadding through the gobbledygood to try and find something worth while.
Shhh.
Ok…I’ll be myself and stick to the KISS theory.
I’m attracted to chicks with a tight bum, a healthy weight, a pretty face, and a pleasant attitude. I’ll use my masculinity to attract them.
“And when it comes to dealing with friends, I’ll just say whatever pops into my mind, no editing, because that’s being myself. So instead of “Hey, dude!” it will be ‘Fatass’, ‘Loser,’ or perhaps even ‘Kike’ or ‘Wop’.
Holy shit, man! You have to “edit” yourself from saying these things to your friends?
I get your point but…damn.
Saying “be yourself” could actually be an encouragement to learn game, no? I think the problem is that many people are just crap and being themselves is the worst advice.
For example, me, “just being myself”, I am the guy who puts on one of his well-tailored suits for a job interview because he knows he is the fucking man and he knows he will be judged on that shit. And you know what? Rightfully so. If someone can’t get their shit together enough to put forth an effort and show they understand presentation means a great deal then they probably aren’t going to pump out quality work, in all likelihood they give a rat’s ass about very little and think poorly.
Or if someone close to me was getting married and asked me to make a speech, I would put effort into it because to me that is how I show my appreciation for them and their kinship. Also, I would be honoured and would further be impelled to do my best for reasons of personal pride.
And with friends I don’t need to edit out calling them names because I respect them. If I didn’t respect them, I wouldn’t call them “friends”.
So learning to improve your dealings with women because they are so often fucked-up is being yourself if you are the kind of guy who naturally is stand-up, recognizes where he has made mistakes and seeks to improve himself as a matter of principle.
Is it appeasement? No, it’s like reading a manual. Men figure shit out just like they always have…motherfucking science, bros! Women make no fucking sense if you try to understand them or interact with them rationally so men studied the problem and then developed methods to tackle it. Isn’t it the very essence of maleness to do so?
The “real alpha thing” to do is stop caring what the fuck dumb bitches like this who have no real interest in your getting laid, getting a girlfriend, having a wife or even being treated well by other women. All these broads want to do is assuage this pang they feel in their gut when they think of how a regular guy might be “tricking” them by manipulating their wiring. Heavens-to-Betsy, we wouldn’t want the poor girls to get fraudulently hitched to a decent guy who picked up enough game to paralyze her bitch shield. No, she needs to be with the “alpha” dude who fucks her friends without even trying hard to hide it. I have gotten so much better at tuning out the shit from most women’s mouths but the key is to just not care since they are of no consequence or value to you anyway. You don’t want to fuck ‘em most likely and they are very unlikely to offer any real conversation value unless you missed, and for some fucked-up reason care about, the last episode of the Bachelor or some glib, poorly-reasoned vomit drenched in whatever ultra-liberal, feel-good, Kumbaya crap is chic that month.
Feminism is one giant shit test.
Liberalism is beta/omega male psychology made manifest.
All else is shadows and dust, Maximus… shadows and dust.
Absolutely. I’m a lot more interested in LTRs than ONSs so the girl has to love who I am, recovering beta baggage and all. But you’ve got to attract her first. Game does this, and what I’ve learned here (and elsewhere) teaches me to use basic game principles to maintain interest and the upper hand. I gotta be me, but game works.
This wasn’t a whining comment by a “tiresome hater”.
[CH: Sez you.]
He seems as concerned, and aware of, the difference between “is” and “ought”.
[You must be a mind reader, cuz nothing he/she/it wrote evinced any comprehension of that basic logic construction.]
It is you who seems to be getting more shrill,
[Take a shrill pill dude.]
more hateful…
[It is required.]
and more whiny in defense of Game.
[You misspelled “more gloating”.]
The reality of the confused SMP notwithstanding,
[Ask not how the SMP is confused, ask for whom the SMP is confusing.]
wise mature men defend and promote what ought to be in the world,
[And in the process score themselves some nice little twat.]
not what is and how best to react to it.
[Promoters of a better way are reacting to the world. So all you’re really arguing is a subjective judgment in favor of one reaction over another reaction.]
Reactivity is a boy’s game, not a man’s.
[FDR wept.]
A man’s game is leadership, preferably righteous.
[A wise leader accepts there are immutable laws of nature, particularly as applies to the sexes, and acts in accordance with those laws to maximize his and, if he desires, his tribe’s advantage.]
we change reality by first accepting it, THEN bending it to our will. Thats not reactive, thats called planning and executing a strategy. Few people can actually do this, and ill give you a hint, it aint military dudes, police dudes or other “authority” servant types.
It’s the guy that sneaks in and fucks THEIR girlfriend
Plumbers and cable guys are the builders of the next century. Got it.
whos your daddy?
A 60-something, K-selection oriented CFO and former MP who, in 1983, looked shockingly like me.
Point?
If you insist on courting women the way they “ought to be courted”, you’d better prepare for a lifetime of being alone, or perhaps being exploited by single moms who cheat on you with the bad boys who spawned their kids.
Either that, or convert to Mormonism or some other such hardcore church.
Pick your poison, Mr. Oughttabe.
I expected a foolish response from the sex-is-success crowd but I must admit the speed with which it came surprised me.
[CH: Those who cannot get sex when sex is what they desire are the walking dead.]
“The walking dead” are the folks who aren’t pushing out any live births.
The dudes who mess around with chicks like Chelsea Clinton, or Sandra Bullock, or Charlize Theron.
Bottom line being that you can either get busy making babies, or you can get busy going extinct.
But on the other hand, to the extent that making a baby requires a man’s plumbing to enter a woman’s plumbing, and to the extent that that act [pace (non-consensual) rape] requires “making the sale” and “sealing the deal” beforehand, and to the extent that there just aren’t enough nice girls from nice families to go around anymore, for many [maybe most?] guys nowadays, who can’t seem to find a nice girl from a nice family, you’re gonna need something like game just so that you can sow your seed in the first place.
You, personally, will be extinct no matter what when you die. I know my genes “care” if I pass them on, but personally I don’t. I think it’s an exceptionally bad idea to have children for that reason alone.
It’s far, far, far better to have children for the wrong reason than to go childless altogether.
And – who knows? – a little bit of the joy of having them just might rub off on your dark, tortured, forlorn soul.
Which, in turn, would mean that you might not be quite so miserable anymore.
Believe it or not, there is [or at least there can be] more to life than merely dumping your seed in the rectum of a snarling hateful venomous femcunt witch from a shitty family.
I disagree. Also I think I won’t make for a good parent. I assume you, Shane, are a father?
That may very well be true. The thing for me is, having children isn’t something I can just try like many other things that give me joy or not. It’s a responsibility. It’s a job you can’t quit. It’s just been a common thread in my life that I felt that responsibility is just an euphemism for exploitation.
Yes. I’m a bonafide hedonist. I enjoy drinking, I enjoy travel, I enjoy meeting people, I enjoy drugs and above all I enjoy new experiences. But I try to play it safe.
“That may very well be true. The thing for me is, having children isn’t something I can just try like many other things that give me joy or not. It’s a responsibility. It’s a job you can’t quit. It’s just been a common thread in my life that I felt that responsibility is just an euphemism for exploitation.”
I dunno, dude, but it feels like we’re making some progress.
Feels like we’re making some progress.
Something tells me we’re gonna be seeing Mr Reckshun pushing that carriage in a coupla more years.
Just a hunch…
Believe it or not, there is [or at least there can be] more to life than merely dumping your seed in the rectum of a snarling hateful venomous femcunt witch from a shitty family.
lzozlozlzozl
shane got highjacked in the last month
No, I just want plenty of little Gunslinger Gregae running around in the nursery schools of America, yanking on the pony tails of all the little girls who will themselves someday grow up to be the daughters-in-law of Big Daddy Gungslinger and give him plenty of grandchildren.
Looks like this post just dredged up a bunch of haters from the sea of lurkerati.
“The sex-is-success crowd”? Is that what they’re calling the entire known taxonomy of organisms these days? I just killed five hundred thousand bacteria that are part of that crowd. Luckily for them they’d already reproduced. They too had a vision of how the world ought to be. The best they could do was select.
Sex Is Success! Sex Is Success!
There’s a lot to be said for your perspective. I agree in principle, and have been living it, walking it, for years. A man leads, a man shows the way, a man does not bow down to social pressure.
I’ve been walking tall and proud of who I was for a long time. I sincerely feel I am an outstanding role model for how things ought to be.
That quiet pride was enough for me for around 20 years, but I woke up one day and realized the world didn’t give a shit about my example, and I could either change the world, or I could change myself.
MGTOW or game, take your pick, but those are the only two choices after pulling back the veil and seeing reality for what it is. If we want to change that, we need to start with our daughters. I, for my part, have completely failed in that respect. I raised an overweight militant feminist lesbian with bad hygiene and body odor.
I’m so ashamed. It’s part of the reason why I only allow myself to approach ugly fat chicks. I feel like since I created one with my own loins, it’s what I deserve.
I’m only 40. I like being a father. Maybe I should knock up some hot chicks and try to do better next time. I bet that’s a road to hell if there ever was one though.
If you think about it, feminism and liberals have reached their point of power through one strategy and one strategy alone: shout out their hate every single day and don’t ever let up.
Sometimes you have to fight fire with a little flame of your own. Personally, this website is a welcome relief through the vast wasteland of twisted SWPLism I have to trudge through every day.
Yes, the voice has become angrier, louder, and more demanding. But it’s working.
Yes Yes Yes! And own the mass media.
Embrace and Extend.
Interesting, the lessons of “Game” are, first, trying to teach Men to be better Men.
Second, to help Men understand what Women really want and is attractive to Women.
So, women are scared of men becoming more attractive to women? They’re afraid of the Balance of Power shifting back to Men.
Subconsciously feminism is nothing morr than a shit test. Feminism is seperating the boys from the men so to speak. Every bitchy thing any feminist has said is motivated by the desire for masculinity or a desire to put other women who are attractive to men down. Spend 6 months in an office cubicle surrounded by women and suddenly their basic mental functioning becomes appallingly obvious.
No, “feminism” was an artificially created and very carefully constructed [and nurtured and then unleashed in all its odious glory] social movement, of the Frankfurt School, which sought to capitalize on womynz’s innate weaknesses [weaknesses which you have alluded to] so as to chop off [at its knees] and topple an entire civilization.
The weaknesses are innate.
The movement which sought to exploit the weaknesses was foist upon us by the Frankfurt School.
From the female subconscious feminism is a shit test.
For the males who support and fostered it, it was and is a beta strategy of placating the females on a subconscious level. The emotions come first in the brain as the initial response. The logical brain rationalizes the emotional response through any means necessary.
Brilliant. Except that it’s a collective test. What we need in response is collective Game.
Alphas are always outnumbered by betas/omegas. The problem is that the alphas are no longer in positions of power. In centuries past, betas kept in line and their mouths shut, just like the females they worship. Once women were allowed into positions of power the hordes of betas donned their white armor and rushed to support them and in doing so tipped society towards the feminine but rest assured, nature is not mocked. Natural order can only be denied so long. The logical end result of liberalism is the destruction of society. Once society collapses, it’s back to the old order.
Civilization reminds me of the stages of a relationship. The stage we are in right now is the ugly bitter fighting that proceeds the divorce. It will be ugly and disastrous, but rest assured bachelorhood will come after the storm and it will be good.
Ivanhoseph77 07/05/2013 at 14:27 | PermalinkReply
A quick hypothetical to illustrate male cooperation as a necessary function for increased sexual/reproductive success for the majority of men.
Imagine you have a tribe of 5 males and 5 females. The males are preselected for a heirarchy amongst the women in terms of sexual desirability (number one Alpha through to number 5 Alpha). The women are also similarily preselected based upon boob size, hip to waist ratio, etc and other indicators of youth and fertility.
In simplified terms, the women will all desire to mate with Alpha 1 and the men all want to sleep with all 5 women, (in descending order of 1-5), to the exclusion of the other men. Clearly serious competition that would escalate to violence, maiming, and death rather quickly. By exerting their prefrontal cortex, however, the men can quickly conclude it to be a very bad scenario as the low percentage of success is very undesirable as opposed to the guarantee of partial success with a compromise.
In other words, the men numbers 2-5 quickly surmise that in a knock down drag out fight Alpha 1 is going to win all ths spoils therefore it behooves them to cooperate against him.
“Hey Alpha 1, you might be able to take us all in a one on one but in a one on four you are shit out of luck.”
Hence Alpha 1 quickly realizes its not in his interest to go for the full harem and must also cooperate.
Thus the men decide to shake hand and each take a portion of the pie with Alpha Male 1 getting the juiciest piece for himself and on down. They then keep a close eye on each other for stealth attempts at violence, penetration/insemination and cuckoldry. In other words all the skirmishes and battles we see on the periphery of pair bonding.
Of course this hypothetical tribe of ten doesn’t describe the real male heirarchy where kings, aristrocrates, head chiefs, etc exist, but just a simplified idea of male cooperation leading to the best chances for the bell curve AFC to “get some”.
Meanwhile the women, while 4 out of the 5 do not get seed from the best “tingles”, at least get something as well. But their compromise is less to their liking than the men’s. Good thing us men got to enforce social norms by virtue of our physical superiority for a good long while. We can take comfort in knowing that the majority our ancestral brotherhood was “at least gettin’ some”.
MOST interestingly though, is that most women would probably prefer the men duke it out and that all 5 get action from Alpha 1 in the end and that most men are probably fairly satisfied with a “a least I am getting some” scenario.
(This is where there is the overlap between the female super-norm and the uber-alpha male super-norm. )
To soldify this partial success paradigm we ended up with the creation of an overarching moral imperative solidifying “hard” monogamy –
CHURCH! RELIGION! Social norms and customs shaming certain behaviors, etc, etc.
An off the top of the head ramble…
actually, fucktard, we got rid of kings
was jesus an alpha or a beta?
is that why you killed him?
Feminism is not a shit test. It is psychological warfare designed to play on men’s natural urges to protect and defend their women and families. Second it is psywar convincing women that they are what they are not; and that they can be men if only they try hard enough – hear me roar-girrrrrrrrrrrrl power.
That is why all the sloganeering is constantly pounding feminist un-truths into their heads; and also being used to psychologically paralyze and emasculate men.
Feminism was not designed by women because that would require logical response above instinctual impulses. Beta males codified the system to placate women and women in their ever ending masochistic demand for all that feminism entails. If women were truly concerned with the justice and equality that feminism supposedly espouses, why does every feminist doctrine look like something some dumb bitch would say to you to make you prove your dominance aka the shit test. Women do not think like men. That is why feminists genuinely believe the idiocy of their beliefs and generally act out like a masochistic child breaking windows to be punished.
And that balance will never shift to men because women have the poontang…
Until this mockery of society that’s been created comes crashing down. Which will be about 5 minutes after the next election… the writing is already on the wall; the blood will probably be joining the writing shortly.
Right, men have the resources.
What’s more valuable…a wet hole to put your dick in or a roof over your head and food in your belly?
The only reason this is needed at all is because wealth and resources are being forcibly transferred from men to women.
Women can’t really earn a living, it’s all artificial.
A minor point of interest. I am in the process of selling my house. I learned that as a man, I am not able to sell said house without my wife’s consent/signature. However, my wife could sell it without my signature or consent. Pretty much boils the evils of this system down to basics. I can lose the roof over my head without say just because I am a man.
that’s actually pretty fucking amazing
Marky Zuckerburgz has lots of resources.
Some can… but most of those do it on their backs.
Game is life. Successful people know how to use game – maybe not consciously but, all the same, they do it.
Game is not just about seducing an attractive woman (or man). Game is about how successful people manipulate the perception others of them so as to get what they want out of life.
Why is there an advertising industry …… ???
Why is there an advertising industry?
Because this is the age of lies.
[CH: Correction: this is the age of pretty lies. And you bet the people will promise to believe.]
If “be yourself” is the M.O., then let’s do away with toothpaste, clothes, hair products, deodorant, perfume, pumps, makeup, and anything else that both sexes use to enhance their appearance and make themselves presentable. Heaven forbid, we don’t want to appease anybody!
CH, I’ve got a question, and this is going to be nauseating, but bear with me. ..
I’ve got two friends who are both best friends of each other. Both beta. Beta #1’s gf took a liking to Beta #2 after being with #1 for 4+ years. She asked for a “break”, so she could examine her life and figure out what she wanted. He agrees and she spends some one-on-one time with Beta #2. They don’t do anything intimate, but it’s during this time she finds out Beta #1 cheated on her in the past, so at this point, she justifies heating things up with Beta #2. Never sex, though, because Beta #2 is against doing that. The most they’ve ever done is HJ, BJ. Very 8th grade. She’s rewritten history that Beta #1 was a cheater, and not that she and Beta #2 has a mutual chemistry and suggested that they go on a break, only to find out he cheated AFTER THE FACT.
So Beta #1 does get the girl back, after months of wooing her. But there’s a catch: she still gleans attention off BOTH of them. No physical affection from #2, but emotional affair? Pretty strong.The most awkward part is I’ve been in the room with all three of them at once and they pretend none of any of this happened. Beta #1 has never pulled #2 aside and said, “Hey man. You were my best friend and you tried to take my girl. Thaaaat’s fucked up.” They’ve never even acknowledged it!
I’ve told him what needs to be done and he believes in her “purity” so much, when I do, he cries to her and she gets pissed. Meanwhile, Beta #1 had to delete his Facebook, because his gf doesn’t want him to flirt with other girls, which he was doing when he cheated. She has his phone on total lockdown, but he cannot look at hers. Seems fair, right?
I always thought the whole thing was pretty high school and would work itself out, but Beta #1 is saving up money for an engagement ring. At this point, do I let the man make the biggest mistake he’ll ever make in his life?
This comment is so, hilariously half about you and half completely made up. Good work.
I’d think I was trolling, too. Whatever makes you sleep better.
And I’m guessing thats not even your real name!!
the fact that beta #1 cheated might indicate a trace of alpha potential. direct him to this blog and see how he reacts.
No, you tell him how stupid he’s being. And you explain it like you did here. Pull no punches. If he doesn’t wanna listen, then he deserves to make that mistake. If he gets pissed at you, good. Find better friends.
It is said that if you know women and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred approaches; if you do not know women but do know yourself, you will close one and be blown out in one; if you do not know women nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single approach.
Pretty sure this is a paraphrase of “The Art Of War” by Sun Tzu, replacing “battles” with “women”.
But it works.
Sun Alpha Tzu
Chopped off a courtesans head when she shit tested him, all the other courtesans fell into line. Totally Alpha.
Super lame.
Ya, brb ‘being myself’ and resigning myself to a lifetime of 3-5’s.
I understand ‘accepting yourself/being honest with yourself/loving yourself…’ but to turn that into ‘ya…and so to get the results i want i should do nothing’ is retarded.
Also…even if it was dishonest and ‘appeasing,’ who gives a shit?
The polite rules that everyone gets taught only work for the natural top 5% of guys — ‘Brad Pitt say….buy a girl drink, be very nice, remember lots of things about her. Brad Pitt wonder why his advice work for him and not you.’
So it’s either accept being forever fucked or taking what’s yours in whatever way you can.
“So it’s either accept being forever fucked or taking what’s yours in whatever way you can.”
What’s mine is mine, what’s yours is mine.
I don’t even think it’s a bad way for things to be. The world doesn’t owe me anything.
Again, dreaming. This attitude may bring you great success in gaming girls but don’t confuse it with a recipe for success in other areas cos sure as shit it ain’t.
[CH: Many of the psychological principles of game are stolen from sales techniques.]
There’s a reason jackals aren’t king of the jungle, but if that’s all you wanna be then go for it.
[False premise. Now get the fuck back in your hovel. You say nothing new or insightful that a thousand insipid haters before you haven’t already said.]
I donate to this blog, and don’t remember saying I was a game denialist or hater. Somebody got the painters in today?
The sales techniques analogy I’ve heard a thousand times before too. Boo hoo. Whilst it’s great that guys use tools to get what they want out of life, the “in whatever way you can” meme is a complete crock of shit. Selling yourself in the best way possible is not equal to deception and bullshitting, there’s a line in there somewhere and when you stay on the wrong side then it’s not girls who’ll stay away from you but other guys. Fine if you wanna live the PUA life and flip burgers, knock yourself out.
‘the “in whatever way you can” meme is a complete crock of shit.’
Okay, fine…what’s the alternative then, for someone like me? Maybe what you’re saying, again, is good for people who score like 20+ on the alpha test. What about someone like me, who’s at a 7? What about other guys, who are at like -15? What about them?
What’s the alternative vision?
All I know is that, sure…I may alienate some girls/guys along the way. But I understand -why- I’m alienating them. I’m becoming more of a threat (ya, little bit by bit) to the guys, and I’m being clearer about my intentions with the girls.
‘Fine if you wanna live the PUA life and flip burgers, knock yourself out.’
WTF does this even mean? I’m going to have a good career, I can already tell. And if anything, the lessons from game have started to help me in ALL sectors of my life.
I think the reason that I — and maybe a lot of other guys — may have a strong emotional reaction to what you’re saying is that it honestly feels like the real message behind your message is “give up, you get what you get and that’s that.” And, to me, that conflicts with what a lot of what I was taught growing up — through hard work anything is possible, yadda yadda yadda.
“Whilst it’s great that guys use tools to get what they want out of life, the “in whatever way you can” meme is a complete crock of shit.”
I agree. I’m very honest in my style of game. But I think every man has to decide for themselves what moral/ethical lines people have arbitrarily drawn they’re comfortable with crossing to get what they want.
Someone who’s starting out, and from a deficit like Scray or myself when I was new, or Tyler who was all fucked up, may see it as “I’ll do whatever works, fuck it!!” and cross any lines without caring about the bigger picture that you’re alluding to, because from where they’re starting they HAVE to be jackals just to claw their way up to a proper foothold.
But in time when the PUA skillset becomes unconscious competence, you focus more on the bigger picture of “alright I can get most of the girls I’m interested in, now I have to decide what I really want in them and what my general code of ethics is”.
The problem is 1) a lot of guys get so caught up in chasing pussy that they don’t bother doing some self-analysis and thinking about this because, well, they’re getting pussy lol and 2) society and other men (often the blowhard King A types who believe that their morals are the best morals) try to force men to follow THEIR set of morals/ethics/values and shame men or badger them for attempting to discover their own via life experience.
So really I agree with both you and Scray, I think you’re just talking about different periods of a man’s development in this area, thus the conflict.
I do some fucked up stuff, but I have very strict lines I don’t cross. They’re just not the same lines most people have.
“his name was Robert Paulson”
Do any of you gamedorks ever think for yourselves? Life isn’t as binary as either being fucked in the ass forever or going out and taking whatever you want in whichever way you can.
Oh it isn’t?
Maybe you’re one of those people who can just ‘be yourself’ and have success. More power to you, if so. But please do not speak for those of us who, when we’re ‘being ourselves,’ are ignored invisible and lonely — no matter how many people are around. ‘Being myself’ got me trapped in friendships/relationships that I hated, ‘being myself’ caused me to be polite to individuals who didn’t really deserve it. To wit — ‘Being myself’ sucked dick.
So ya…for -me- it really is that simple.
“‘Being myself’ got me trapped in friendships/relationships that I hated, ‘being myself’ caused me to be polite to individuals who didn’t really deserve it.”
That ain’t being yourself. That’s wearing a mask.
Repression is a behavior that can be part of ‘one’s self’ too.
[CH: A short list of men who were “just being themselves”:
Hitler
Stalin
Mao
Jeffrey Dahmer
Furries
Goat fuckers
Necrophiliacs]
ya….it just seems like whenever you point out ‘see, this negative behavior was me being myself’ the answer is always some trite NO TRUE SCOTSMAN ‘no bro, that’s not being yourself, that’s something different.’
“CH: A short list of men who were “just being themselves”:
Hitler
Stalin
Mao”
These guys were alpha tho, weren’t they?
[CH: Alpha males are not necessarily admirable men.]
I would like to invite all game haters to partake in the following experiment. First study game techniques until fully conversant, next spend six months deploying game tactics in the field. Then spend six months just being yourself, after this come back and tell us which approach brought you the best results and which lifestyle you prefer.
lol. they won’t. the truth is scarier than the fiction
The real alpha thing is to kill other guys to get their bitches and daughters, but…
The vast majority of my friends are alphas. My best friend, a natural, all of my life, any time i’d do anything slightly off the beta script, he’d have a fit. What are you doing? hed say…id say, where’d you think i learned this from? Do most alphas have the one close beta friend?
gotta have somebody to tool…..your bet, find a good looking guy you can tool cause hes a bitch and invite him out with homie.
pick up his toss offs. its like hanging with gays.
You missed the point completely, dumbass. And way to out yourself, by the way.
reading comprehension…….get some
Lol
as you become more alpha, you become more of his rival. you are the robin to his batman, your bffness was based on this dynamic. unless he can accept you as an equal, you’ll need to part ways or forever be his robin.
this came out wrong LOL but you guys are right, i did have a friend like that once.
Yes. This is because “alphas” are social parasites. They need supplicating “betas” to support them. They won’t accept any sort of equal friendships. They need hierarchy for their own value. From an earlier post on this site:
“To outside observers the “look straight ahead while walking and talking” pose appears more alpha. This is especially true if the person you are talking to is looking at you with rapt attention while walking or standing at your side. This social construction pings the leader-follower dynamic.
The worst pose is to be seen walking and looking at the person you are addressing, while that person is looking straight ahead. It doesn’t matter if he’s studiously listening to you, or if he thinks you’re The Man. You will appear like Igor obsequiously yapping at the side of his mad scientist boss.
A kind of prisoner’s dilemma does arise in these situations. You have to bank on the expectation that your addressee will continue looking at you while you talk. If he turns away as well, some of the alphaglow that would accrue to you will be dimmed. If you look back at him to recapture his attention, he may look away, and you are left appearing beta Igor-ish. Nevertheless, as a general principle, the “look straight ahead while walking and talking” affectation will in most scenarios and most times redound to your benefit.”
See, getting rid of “betas” is not in the interest of the “alpha” he NEEDS his sycophants. The alpha is the expendable party. They usually provide little value, and instead simply extort or exploit the productive members of society, and fuck all the women. And they don’t do this through any sort of skill or merit, they do it by imposing a set of behavioral rules or ethics on others that they do not follow themselves. Kill the alpha.
When I have a kid and he begins to walk, I’m not going to toiler train him. I’m just gonna let him piss all over the floor. Why? Because that’s the way he is!! I want him to be himself and teaching him to correct his behavior for social acceptance is pretentious, phony, and wrong.
The above is the logic of the “be yourself” crowd. If we were all ourselves all the time, we’d be shitting our pants, farting in public, and never wearing deodorant. NO ONE is completely “themselves” ever and to tell someone they need to “be themselves” is basically pointless. “Ourselves” is a baby pissing everywhere when you get down to it.
Head of U.S. Air Force’s anti-sexual assault unit arrested for sexual battery
The officer in charge of the U.S. Air Force effort to curb sexual assault in the military was arrested over the weekend for allegedly grabbing a woman by the breasts and buttocks in a parking lot not far from the Pentagon, officials said on Monday…
It was in a parking lot…was that his effort to “curb” sexual assault? Ba-dum-ching
The difference though is when you go against your morals for social acceptance.
[CH: What if your morality is to maximize your happiness?]
There’s obviously nothing immoral or degrading about pissing in a toilet. But there is in becoming someone that you hate in order to please bitchy women.
[WHy is it necessarily becoming something you hate when you act in a way that is attractive to the women you desire?]
[CH: What if your morality is to maximize your happiness?]
That isn’t morality. More like egoism or hedonism. Not that should be condemned, but don’t confuse the issue.
[WHy is it necessarily becoming something you hate when you act in a way that is attractive to the women you desire?]
Because maybe you have morality, and believe in universal ethical principles. And maybe you don’t want to be a degenerate thug or a manipulative sociopath just to get pussy.
“I’m aware that attractive women do gravitate towards certain kinds of personality, isn’t it far more important to be honest with yourself than to have sex with attractive women?”
Annnnd…
What if, after being honest with yourself, you realize that it’s really important to you to have sex with attractive women?
Bit of a quandary there, eh?
“I think the real alpha thing to do would be to stick to who you are, and if the woman doesn’t like it, move on.”
And, after being honest with yourself about that, sticking to your guns, what happens when you realize being yourself does not seem to get you anywhere with any women, at least the one’s you find attractive?
Keep on, movin’ on?
Or maybe take stock and see whether or not there MIGHT be something about you that could use a little improvement.
“Just be yourself”…
You know, “being yourself” is in fact the key, I actually, but there is a HUGE catch.
What if the guy you are does NOT understand basic sexual mechanics?
What if the guy you are does not understand basic female behavior, like IOI’s?
What if the guy you are firmly believes in the ideas of Disney rather than Hypergamy?
What if the guy you are does not know how to dress, how to hold a conversation, or how to keep out the LJBF zone?
We could on all day like this…
Being yourself, when you are THAT guy, is not going to get you anywhere except ignored, used or involved with someone you REALLY don’t want to be with.
I was that kind of guy, which led to results ranging from the pathetic to the laughable. Being myself back then…well, I look back at what I did, how I acted, how I dressed, what I missed that was RIGHT in front on me…
(Face-palm)
I have made huge strides since then, since learning of Game and the Red pill. The Misandry Bubble and this site blew wide open my consciousness, making sense out of what had seemed illogical and bizarre for too many years. I have learned much, but I have even farther to go, I admit.
But at least I understand NOW how far I was from what was possible.
So, for the “just be yourself” crowd, I would ask; is the being currently known as yourself, the best version of you that you might be?
No one pops out of the womb fully formed as a person, with all your traits and skills and experience.
You’ve got to earn those. You have got to work improve yourself, making “yourself” a better model.
So, in that sense, yes, “being yourself” will work, if you choose to work to better yourself to where the “real” you can speak for itself.
I have been working to improve myself in different areas, realizing it is for me, to benefit me, but also realizing that it will affect how others view me.
Learning Game, in all its different aspects, is one way you can do that.
Is it the only way?
Maybe not, but I think learning even the basics of it will teach a guy what he is up against, will dispel self-defeating delusions tripping him, and set him on a path toward a path becoming the kind of guy women desire, rather than tolerate.
So, go ahead and be yourself, but just make sure it’s the best version of you possible.
There are more than a few “Christian Game” blogs, Dalrock, Athol, Vox Day (alphagameplan) are just three.
You cannot easily oppose something if you deny it exists. Whether you take Game to be good or evil, it is what the state of society IS today, much as a form of chivalry and Fathers protecting their daughters was a generation or two ago.
Game is the “is”, with all the faults, pitfalls, and such (It is said syphilis created the Victorian chastity). For both men and women. Women too have the choice – marry young to the right man or end up as “used merchandise”.
This +1. And I’m a Christian guy who got (pre-CH) screwed over in divorce; I want an LTR but a real one. And with a sane(r) beautiful woman. That said, to be a “Christian” man, for the nonbelievers, is to be truly masculine. Yes, love your wife…who is TRULY feminine, in the deepest sense of the word, knowing that she is join with her husband as one and support her husband. The Biblical injunctive is to “be fruitful and multiply” and woman is to “be a helpmeet for man…” The Bible does not say “Go forth and get chumped by a SWPL feminist.” We’d be still in Eden if Adam had told Eve to STFU, the Big Alpha One said so….and if Game means a man isn’t going to put up with histrionic crap tests, do we all know deep down what society would be like?
uh…yeah.
when was the last time a girl asked you about your day? how you felt about something? what you thought?
this is a war bro, and until more than 30% of men refuse to marry for any reason (the social “prize” for her, any her) you will not find that girl……ever.
war is hell son.
This ‘Susan Walsh” person seems to be sort of a (somewhat) cultural-conservative, writing mostly for women, who supports the PUA / game concept. I think she said something like ‘game lets people who aren’t douchebags imitate those who are’, thereby rescuing young women from the real douchebags.
http://www.hookingupsmart.com/
But thats the problem k8. A lot of Beta guys are being themselves and are losing out and ending up hurt and kicked to the curb. So they are trying to create a way that they can get the kinds of women they want without getting hurt in the process, and protecting their best interests.
Feminism has lied to these men telling them that women love “nice guys” and then the nice guys see they are treated like 2 day old trash, while jerks are getting everything AND the respect from women.
I used to balk at GAME, but I don’t see that as such a bad thing now. We live in a Western society where women have more than enough power to make choices on who they allow into their lives and space and vaginas. So, if women are concerned about men gaming them, then maybe its the woman who has to ask herself if her vetting skills are up to par to keep these kinds of men out.
The onus is not on the male to protect the woman’s best interest in the mating game. His mission is to get what he wants and the woman’s mission is to get what she wants. Hopefully in the best case healthiest senarios, they both meet somewhere in the middle and both are happy.
Women have to protect themselves. But what certain types of men are seeing (the good beta guys) is that being the nice guy who cares (just being themselves) isn’t getting them anywhere – and then they see all the jerks and butt-heads getting more respect and love from women, so they are trying to develop some aspects of that trait to get what they want.
I don’t agree with ALL aspects of Game. But My personal feelings are I think its good in a way for more Beta men to get out of the socially awkward stage with women. I also feel that at the end women will appreciate it more having men with a little more backbone and in the best cases more men will be at least in the MIDDLE of the road than far to the left of the Beta thermometer.
“But what certain types of men are seeing (the good beta guys) is that being the nice guy who cares (just being themselves) isn’t getting them anywhere – and then they see all the jerks and butt-heads getting more respect and love from women, so they are trying to develop some aspects of that trait to get what they want.”
The big problem is that many PUA’s just become the jerks and buttheads. There is a big difference between going for what you want, and not letting other people walk all over you, and being the guy who walks all over other people (the alpha). Game bloggers are not making this distinction. Most of the basic game falls into the first category, and as such it isn’t really problematic. It’s more of a corrective training to get “betas” out of the kinds of weak and supplicating behavior that has been forced on them by the hypergamous/alpha culture. But the more “advanced” game essentially reinforces this hypergamy by advocating that men play into it and strive to become the alpha.
“A lot of Beta guys are being themselves and are losing out and ending up hurt and kicked to the curb.”
I don’t believe that. I believe that these guys are getting kicked to the curb because they are NOT being themselves. They are conforming to the expectations of a feminized society and acting more beta than they really are and getting punished for it.
That’s why “nice guys” finish last. Not because they are actually nice, but because they are huge phony douchebags.
Every man born after 1965 is naturally a bit more alpha than he will give himself credit for. For me, “game” has been waking up to that reality and, well, being myself, and it’s worked for me… and you can too.
“I don’t believe that. I believe that these guys are getting kicked to the curb because they are NOT being themselves. They are conforming to the expectations of a feminized society and acting more beta than they really are and getting punished for it.”
Yep. That too.
Hopefully men will be able make transformations in their thinking for which women have no counter-move, because they can’t change their neurology or instincts.
It reminds me of improv Jazz, those guys are ‘just being themselves’.
Yeh but it took a shit load of practice to sound like that.
Boom!
nice
“Freedom is the disciplining of desire so as to make the achievement of the good … possible, then effortless.” — Robert Barron
Game had always existed. It sprang into existence the second Eve bit into that forbidden fruit. Game is the proper response to sinful, fallen women
Kh8 may be right. Women crave da lotzazza cocksa man chowder therefor it makes them happy to receive it…sploosh. Now say thank you.
On a slightly more serious note for the haters. I used things that I learned while trying to understand ‘game’ to help land a decent job last year. I was up against several excellent candidates/ opponents who I personally have great respect for. The interview definitely wasnt about sex but i won because i let my confidence out and expressed it in a positive manor. The stuff is the real deal and the chicks dig it.
head like a hole.
black as your soul.
I’d rather die than give you control…..
[CH: bow down before the one you serve. you’re gonna get what what you deserve.]
Amen, brother…
nice and high and far apart
just like they said
i built this place with broken parts
just like they said
you chip away the old version of you
you’d be surprised at what you can do
i’m safe in here
irrelevant
just like they said
my voice just echoes off these walls
Yankee Doodle
Went to London
Riding on a pony
Stuck a feather
In his cap
And called it macaroni
In other news, those gender neutral / race doesn’t matter left wing O voting fools are scratching their heads trying to explain this one.
These below are graphics from statistics I dug up from my daughters new middle school. Weird, I know.
So much for blaming “poverty” and “lack of the same education that others with “privilege” get in explaining this one. This is one of the best middle schools in California. In fact our “9” would of been an easy “10” if it wasn’t for this small 6% subgroup of people I’m pointing out below continually scoring dismally lower than everyone else regardless of being in a great school and away from larger subset groups of their own race.
The blame game is over, the stats are in folks. The numbers don’t lie.
In fact blacks only outscored the disabled (aka retarded) kids.
Oh and just to get this out of the way, I’m by no way judging anyone for being black.However it is evident to me that black people as a whole are inherently not as smart (but athletically more gifted) than other races, particularly white and Asian.
However it is evident to me that black people as a whole are inherently not as smart (but athletically more gifted) than other races, particularly white and Asian.
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You are correct.
However,
If you define “smart” as the ability to do more things; should black people be mistreated and abused on that qualification?
I define “smart” as intelligence quotient. You know, the people we groom into scientists, astronauts, professors, doctors, lawyers …. those people.
Not to say black people aren’t smart, they clearly do have representations of their race at the top of every occupational field (typically the whiter ones with raped black women going back to the slave days incidentally are the ones to have these roles, but we won’t even go there).
But why are you suggesting I think black people, or any person, should be mistreated? I’m hardly a rifle holdin’ deep southerner confederate. However I am sick and tired of the media, pop culture, even my daughters teachers at her school, my own family members, EVERYBODY basically acting as if race has absolutely nothing to do with intelligence and other traits (such as athletic ability). We can see with our own two eyes blacks are more athletically gifted, they own every sport but hockey in America.
But this lie that black people are (as a whole) just as intelligent as Asians and Whites has really got to the point that people inherrently believe it without even giving it a second thought.
I’m sick and tired of this disgusting politically correct culture we have found ourselves in. It makes me want to vomit every time I open a newspaper or turn on the radio.
Did you know I heard on the radio today the state of Washington is renaming their entire political landscape vocabulary to gender neutral wordage? For example instead of going to college in Washington as a Freshman, you will now be labeled a Freshperson. I am not making this up it’s as real as my own 2 hands typing this in front of me.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/23/washington-state-gender-neutral-vocabulary_n_3135734.html
So to answer your question, do I think blacks should be mistreated? Um no. Why would you even suggest such an awful thing? At what point did I bring up how we should treat others? All I want is for us as a culture to ADMIT that race does matter. And that people who are black just inherent in their genes are more likely not to be able to swim, be not as intelligent, and be superb athletes. Will this go for everyone? No.
But do you know that our entire political landscape is centered around the incorrect theory that all races are exactly the same? You do realize the implications that this has had (and will continue to have) on America as a whole, right?
So to answer your question, do I think blacks should be mistreated? Um no. Why would you even suggest such an awful thing?
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Because thats the only thing that matters.
(mistreatment is the mother of all rebellion)
Too much disparity to mistreat others for being black. But I think where we go wrong js that we all incorrectly think that the only difference between a black person and a white person is the “color of their skin”. Actually it goes way beyond that. So every black person and white person or whatever person ever dismissed our differences merely on a skin color are misinformed fools.
There’s a reason why people into dog fighting don’t train poodles and golden retrievers to be prize fighters but only stick to pit bulls. This concept does not stop with dogs. I’m not quite sure why we have all been fooled to believe it does.
“we all incorrectly think that the only difference between a black person and a white person is the “color of their skin”. Actually it goes way beyond that”
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Does the distinction go far enough to justify mistreatment based on color/noncolor?
If not, why is color/noncolor any more a distinction worth making than height?
What does a hierarchy of “differences” look like?
Have you produced one?
Personally I think culture has an influence as well. If we’re talking about statistics, blacks in south africa are also much smarter than african americans.
Equality is the “noble lie” of democracy.
This form of society could not handle the truth you are pointing out. Society is drenched in necessary lies — necessary for the maintaining of that society.
since they don’t show up embedded, links:
“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”
Haters showing up means CH is on the radar.
They don’t hate stuff that doesn’t offend them.
I am being myself…I have the Y chromosome.
Women don’t know what they need.
They need men to show them.
MGTOW/PUA fault line.
Yep. I fall more into the MGTOW category. I have no problem with the basics of game, which are just social skills, plus an awareness of what women find attractive. But I reject the beta/alpha distinction. I am neither, and I don’t want to be either. I am a man by nature. I don’t have to try to “man-up” or any shit like that. I reject being forced into a beta frame, and I also reject the overt attempt to beta-ize other men, which is the alpha strategy.
[CH: Remember that the beta-alpha distinction exists on a sliding scale. A beta is not necessarily a beta 100% of the time. But, if you average out his social interactions over his lifetime, he would be more beta than alpha. And the degree of betaness or alphatude will vary depending on the proportion found within each man. This is why CH invented the concept of “lesser betas” and “greater betas”, among others. It’s a useful construct for thinking about male mate value. (And female mate value, but theirs is measured differently, i.e., almost entirely based on looks.)]
[CH: Remember that the beta-alpha distinction exists on a sliding scale. A beta is not necessarily a beta 100% of the time. But, if you average out his social interactions over his lifetime, he would be more beta than alpha. And the degree of betaness or alphatude will vary depending on the proportion found within each man. This is why CH invented the concept of “lesser betas” and “greater betas”, among others. It’s a useful construct for thinking about male mate value. (And female mate value, but theirs is measured differently, i.e., almost entirely based on looks.)]
Not sure how this changes anything.
[Ch: It changes a lot if you accept the haters’ false premises about the foundational teachings here.]
I presume at some point on the continuum you reach a discontinuity where a person is either a lesser alpha or a greater beta, and the binary is asserted.
[Deserts and short grass plains are distinct ecosystems. Yet the point at which the desert changes to a short grass plain is fuzzy.]
But to clarify, I don’t deny that beta and alpha exist as social categories, I only deny that they correspond to any actual attributes that are inherent in the male.
[Then you believe wrongly. For example, a man who puts himself down all the time — this is an attribute that corresponds to beta maleness.]
They are PURELY social categories, and they are of the evil sort.
[Every word humans invent to describe reality is a social construct. That is the nature of language. And the categories are neither good nor evil. Sexual market value is amoral. It just IS.]
The alpha, as you have outlined in this blog, represents the worst of human behavior.
[No. Check your premises.]
Not just offensive to the sensibilities of women, but offensive to other men as well.
[Everything you will now write will be wrong because, like the typical leftoid (even if you aren’t one) you start from a faulty premise, and carry on as if no one will notice.]
Stupidity, disloyalty, petulance, disrespect, etc.
[Strength, leadership, initiative, bravery, fortitude, charm, wit, etc.]
He is a scumbag.
[He is what women love.]
Unfortunately many women are attracted to this personality type, because many women are shit.
[Are men shit for being sexually repulsed by fat women?]
The fucked up state of modern sexual dynamics can be summed up as hypergamy/alpha-dominance. They are really one and the same.
[Hypergamy/alpha dominance have been with humanity since the dawn of… humanity. The culture and incentives may change, thus changing the ratios of alpha/beta/hypergamy/cad/dad/slut/wifey, but the inherent nature of man and woman stays the same. This nature will never change as long as humans are a sexually reproducing species.]
My god’s will
Becomes me
When he speaks
He speaks through me
He has needs
Like i do
We both want
To rape you….
Jesus christ, why don’t you come save my life, now.
Open my eyes, blind me with your light, now
Jesus christ, why don’t you come save my life, now
Open my eyes, blind me with your lies, now……
I had a friend once….
Jacob Ian Stalk.
Use your obviously robust imagination to picture Mary, the Mother of God: the Co-redemptrist, the Co-equal Queen of Heaven if she were try to take on the job of explaining to a horny , confused 14 year old Yeshua ben Yeshua what Women are really like and what makes them wet. He is asking now because He wants his poon desert to come to an end. His growing pain is otherworldly. Mary has infinite LOVE. for all of Gods creatures. In an abstract sort of way.
Is that a strong enough form of love to impel marry to send young Yeshua over to the CH to learn about those things that he needs to know?
As posted prior…”A true gentleman and hater. I like my hate straight up, double. Leave the passive smarmy hate for the women.”
Let me explain. I took the liberty of assuming that the most Wise and Benficient woman who ever lived would not in a billion years sit down with her only beloved son and tell him anything usefully about the sexual instincts of the sisterhood.
“Sorry, Jesus you are going to be on your own with this. You follow commandments, I follow imperatives:”” Dont be be too cross with me!!!
“I’m aware that attractive women do gravitate towards certain kinds of personality, isn’t it far more important to be honest with yourself than to have sex with attractive women?”
I think it is always important to be honest with yourself. I think most men have a part of them that can be developed to being appealing to women. Most men have an instinct which allows them to gravitate towards what women like. If they go with this instinct, in many cases, they may actually be happier by themselves within themselves.
Take sex for instance- I definitely would not advocate denying your nature in order to please women though.I mean, if you are a dude that likes to dress up as a french maid, then that’s what you should do. You will probably find that almost no women are attracted to this, but if that’s what you want to do, you should do it. If you really don’t prefer to be the guy that holds a chick down and fucks her like a whore, then don’t be that guy.
But say you are a typical guy, and you almost don’t care what you do if you are fucking an attractive girl. You could lay on top of her and grunt, you could tie her up, she could tie you up. No matter what, you are going to get off. Well, then, it’s probably beneficial to develop your potential for sexual dominance because that’s much more likely to be pleasing to the girl. You might even find that you sort of feel more in tune with yourself if you develop this side of you.
I think I understand what you’re saying, and I don’t think it’s a common problem. As far as I can tell, most men who study game do develop or discover their own flavor of game, their own style, designed to maximize their preferred types of interaction with their preferred type so women. I don’t think men lose as much of themselves as you worry they do.
Am I anywhere near the mark on this, men of CH?
[CH: Yes.]
Re: Take sex for instance- I definitely would not advocate denying your nature in order to please women though.I mean, if you are a dude that likes to dress up as a french maid, then that’s what you should do. You will probably find that almost no women are attracted to this, but if that’s what you want to do, you should do it. If you really don’t prefer to be the guy that holds a chick down and fucks her like a whore, then don’t be that guy.
I think that’s a good way to look at things, Feminist X.
There’s a lot of ways in which I’m ‘naturally’ a beta provider type. Some of those things are really . That probably means I’m never going to be as successful as our good blog owner here. Which is fine, i’m not looking to. I don’t see alpha/beta/omega as really a binary thing, I see it more of as a continuum, where you can have less or more of the desirable traits. I’m looking to develope *just enough* game/alpha-ness that I can snag a good looking girl of my desired ethnicity, age range, compatible personality, etc. and develope a long-term relationship (hopefully marriage, down the road).
With that in mind, I’m trying to sort out what aspects of me are essential to making me happy (and yea, being a caring guy, good provider, etc. is important) and figuring out what’s not essential, and what I can change- and that mostly boils down to developing confidence, overcoming anxieties, getting less emotionally invested in girls / clingy, etc.. I’m also trying to develop other sides of me that I think might help (get more professional success, build up more muscle). I’m close enough to being able to date successfully now, that I think with some marginal improvement I could actually be successful.
Some aspects of our nature are essential, others are accidental. And I agree that ‘be yourself’ is shit advice, whether it be for dating, for a job, etc. The whole purpose of self improvement (physically, intellectually, professionally, socially, personally) is changing our nature and choosing to *not* ‘be ourselves’.
Real or Fake?!
Go out in public and try for yourself. Report back on your findings.
Watching this terrible video actually hurt me in my balls. The “what would be your excuse not to kiss me” line is OK enough to open with on it’s own – and a fun stand-alone experiment……… but asking “do you have a boyfriend?” line is pathetic. So is asking ‘Do you think I’m attractive?”. That’s a woman’s question.
A guy with any iota of “game” doesn’t ask “do you think I’m attractive”. Women will sleep with guys they can’t stand. A woman will blow a greasy, tattoo-riddled, unemployed musician on a stolen motorbike in the bathroom and engage in any number of “unattractive” activities. The question is totally unnecessary. His previous “put your number in my phone” video makes a great statement, but this is lame.
Game is only as dishonest as any public speaker tailoring his presentation to better suit his audience.
And if you don’t like it, then don’t use it, and get whatever girls you can get that way. But if you see someone else using it and getting better (read: hotter) girls, don’t be surprised.
The bottom line is that there is no objective right and wrong apart from our perceptions. Anything anyone says contradictory is merely involved in rationalizations.
Interesting the Chateau disqualifies anyone who questions “game theory” and merely asks “has it ever occurred to you….?” and labels it “hate”, and “whining”. But that’s a feminist’s game.
None of his words were remotely “hateful”.
It’s not like he said “You fucking PUA idiots….”.
INDIFFERENCE is not the same as “hate”.
“hater” is like a Maury Povich word;he is being funny,as in haters gonna hate. (I think its slang from the coloreds. Theyre good with that kind of stuff…)
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“Second, learn to distinguish between is and ought. The Chateau revels in the fun of laying bare the clanking gears of reality and observing the result as the crisis of a thousand consciences unfolds, but that doesn’t necessarily mean we like the world this way, or would want the world, if we had our druthers, to be this way.”
Well the problem is you have several times crossed that is/ought line, and celebrated stupidity and degeneracy. You can’t really promote it, but claim you don’t like it.
Name one? You know, thread name, date.
2013/04/12/how-to-treat-a-beautiful-woman-like-a-plain-woman/
2013/04/26/why-are-men-with-dark-triad-personalities-so-irresistible-to-women/
There’s two for ya.
David Hume in tha hizzy, fo shizzy.
Hey, Great Books master, any chance we can sneak A Treatise of Human Nature onto that Mortimer Adler list you got there?
On the subject of schooling game and sexual market denialist haters, see commenter Steve Johnson (scroll toward the end) in this Steve Sailer thread.
yeah but he’s having a discussion with….m@ya.
joke’s on him.
Different Maya, Columbo.
I know Chateau is fighting feminism and I stand by him, but I got a problem with lumping all betas in the boat of shit. The definition of beta male is not ass kissing submissive male loser. Before feminism destroyed the beta males, they were respected leaders of the household.
As for being yourself, I agree with k8, as long as being yourself is being a real man : courageous, strong, honest, etc. Otherwise you need to get back to work.
This just in: whites need to stop networking because its giving them an unfair advantage in the job hunting market. Fucking unreal.
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/05/05/how-social-networks-drive-black-unemployment/?src=me&ref=general
lolololozzzlolzzz
Just be yourself? Ok. Luckily I’m a narcissist that considers women to be objects for my pleasure. Profit.
hahahahaha
OT
This guy was too stupid to run away when a hysterical white woman ran into his arms. LOL
He kinda new he should have but he didn’t.
Bless his heart.
“I knew sumpin was wrong when a pretty little white girl run into a black man’s arms. Something is wrong here, dead giveaway….she either homeless or she got problems, that’s the only reason she run into the arms of a black man.”
Outstanding, laugh of the day.
lol @ 1:06 reflexive cop siren panic
Deeeeaaaad Giveaway!
bless his heart is right, th
this world is a big bad place
Listen to his 911 call, absolutely hilarious
No shit!
and people think Quentin Tarantino comes up with his characters on his own:.
“hey, check this out, I just came from mcdonalds right, and Im on my 14th level of food right, and this broad…”
WTF did he say?
“14th level of food”
Huh?
I’m smarter than that bro!
“I’m on my porch eating my food.”
I quit my job this mo-o-orning
I don’t want to work no more
Fuck McDonald’s and Taco Bell,
Modern day slavery is knocking on my front do-o-or
Get you a big fat sack of yayo
Can’t see my kids can’t see my wife
Can’t see a way to control my doggone life
The news people must be delighted that someone so charismatic was involved
Actually, I think “be yourself” is exactly the correct premise. Look, if there’s any science to this at all, then it means that you are stuck with what you are. You can never “become” an alpha, ever. This is innate biology. But what’s happened is that feminism has encouraged all men to slide a notch down the sexual hierarchy so that Alpha’s mimic greater betas, greater betas mimic lesser betas etc.
It’s tiring stressful stuff and that why we’ve reached a breaking point.
By “being yourself” you are most likely going to be assuming you natural position in the hierarchy a notch above where you’ve been conditioned to be. For some guys, myself included, this means moving from lesser beta to greater beta. But that’s it; you will never, ever be alpha. It’s immutable, it’s innate, it’s science.
It’s the people trying to jump from Omega to Alpha that give game a bad name and makes the science questionable. Sure it might get them laid now and then, but that’s about it. They will eventually find themselves cuckolded, divorced, divested and dying along. That and it just looks fucking ridiculous when you see it.
Seems like an arbitrary, self-imposed limit.
It may be… and if it is, then all of this is theater, not science.
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be funny if the new dude took half the castles and estates when the prenump gets thrown out
be poetic justice
O/T:
I am completely revolted by that POS Mark Fuckerberg and the rest of these “tech” creeps getting involved in the immigration sell-out. Mark Pincus publicly admitted he misused customer data just to bring in more revenue to his company. Ron Conway is another creep who tried to kill off the use of convertible debt so that he could screw entrepreneurs. Doerr, Gates, the incompetent Andrew Mason, the balding Houston . . . put them all on a plane to DC and hope the pilots bail out.
+1.
I even pretty much stopped using my Facebook except to get invites to stuff.
Culture of Critique, Chapter 7
Mark Zuckercunt is a dill-weed of the highest caliber. What the fuck is he doing toying around with politics all the sudden?
Feminist filmmaker sad that older white men are marrying younger asian women – the mental gymnastics to try and avoid the obvious reason (they’re more feminine and slender) are astounding.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2320291/The-allure-yellow-fever-New-documentary-explores-white-American-men-aspire-marry-Asian-women.html
Yeah well, many of the dweebs with yellow fever are utter creeps.
“Did you know I heard on the radio today the state of Washington is renaming their entire political landscape vocabulary to gender neutral wordage? For example instead of going to college in Washington as a Freshman, you will now be labeled a Freshperson. I am not making this up it’s as real as my own 2 hands typing this in front of me.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/23/washington-state-gender-neutral-vocabulary_n_3135734.html
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I remember a femnit saying years ago that she thought the word “HISTORY” should be changed to “OURSTORY”.
However it would seem that some words are beyond even the reach of Washington State…
“Several words aren’t easy to replace, said Kyle Thiessen, the state’s code reviser, who heads up the 40-staff Washington Code Reviser’s Office agency”.
“The state likely won’t change the words “airmen” and “seaman,” for example, because of objections by the state’s Washington Military Department, he said.
Civil engineering terms such as “man hole” and “man lock,” also will not be changed because no common-sense substitutes could easily be found, Thiessen said”.
However some observers such as “Liberated5206″ are far from happy, posting…
” I don’t understand why replacement words for Manhole or Man lock is so difficult. Manhole could be call underground access , manlock could be called airlock, not that hard”.
Personally (if only for the sake of Lay-reports) I’m glad the State has decided to draw a line.
She stuck a finger in my underground access while I shot seaperson all over her face, doesn’t have the same ring.
What I find most hysterical is that this is the leftoid Huffington Post, yet most comments are overwhelmingly, often mockingly, negative.
I’ve had this post bookmarked for years because I found it as essential as the 16 Commandments of Poon:
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/05/27/the-unbearable-triteness-of-hating/
and,..
Game is no less fake than any other self-improvement pursuit to which a man might set himself in order to move upward from his natural inertial state.
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True,
but game can be fake in a way that training to run a 4 minute mile can’t be faked.
“…the real alpha thing to do would be to stick to
who you are, and if the woman doesn’t like it, move
on.
“Just be yourself.”
I’m aware that attractive women do gravitate towards
certain kinds of personality, isn’t it far more important
to be honest with yourself than to have sex with
attractive women?”
“myself” wants to have sex with all the beautiful women in the world!!!! Enough said.
Pshaw, women have cosmetic surgery (breast implants nose jobs etc) wear make-up, wear heels(gives them an excuse to want even taller men among other things) and just not be a bitch (in the presence of alphas of course) plus more i didnt think of.
Men can have Game.
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