The tsunami of scientific evidence vindicating core premises of game and the teachings found in Chateau Heartiste archival documents keeps on rolling. The latest study adds to the accumulating weight of evidence that game works, and that women prefer men who are less emotionally available, i.e., insensitive jerks.
[W]omen are less attracted to men who seem too caring on a first date, according to research in the Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin.
In the study, women were less likely to want to sleep with male acquaintances who expressed concern when they opened up than with men who were less emotionally responsive.
It’s another case of nice guys finishing last. “The ‘too-nice stranger’ may come across as desperate,” says lead study author Gurit Birnbaum, Ph.D., a lecturer at the Interdisciplinary Center Herzliya in Israel.
Rather than trying to empathize with a new interest, “just really listen, without interrupting,” says Birnbaum.
Male desperation kills tingles dead.
(Female desperation is largely irrelevant in the context of female attractiveness. Men will want to fuck a hot woman no matter how desperate she seems, and in fact any attractive woman signaling desperation for sex will only stoke the male desire to achieve immediate sexual gratification with her. Ugly desperate women can improve their chances for sex by roping in a man who’s in the middle of a dry spell with the promise of effortless, if unsatisfying, access.)
This study’s results are so self-explanatory that not much more needs to be said. It is total confirmation of one of the most powerful precepts of game: That women love mysterious men who play hard to get, who present themselves as challenges, who don’t give away the store, who don’t “woo”, “chase” or appease, and who don’t assume the role of the emotional tampon.
In other words, be a bit of a jerk. Or a lot of a jerk, as the situation or the type of girl may call for.
Male overconfidence is the heart of game, but plausible deniability is the hot red blood pumped through the veins of a pick-up. Girls like their male sexual intention on a need-to-know basis: Expertly concealed and fully revealed only when the tip has breached and all hope of maintaining an illusion of coyness is lost.
The art of flirting is the progression of an intensifying series of sweet little lies intended to provide plausible deniability cover for a woman as she steers her burning libido through labyrinthine and often misdirecting pathways put into service to maximize her hypergamous rewards and minimize the threat to her reputation and the risk of post-coital abandonment or unworthy insemination. Women love the evasive parries of flirting because flirting is the limbic fuel that feeds their hungry hungry hamsters, and a man who is skilled in the manipulation of women’s desires — a man who keeps it close to the vest and who knows better than to bare his soul like an emoting whore manboob and thus rob women of the joy of slow, anticipatory discovery — is the aloof and charming asshole that women find irresistible.
In related science/game news, a study finds that students think they learn more from an overconfident instructor than from an awkward instructor, even though there is no real difference in amount learned.
The present study explored the effects of lecture fluency on students’ metacognitive awareness and regulation. Participants watched one of two short videos of an instructor explaining a scientific concept. In the fluent video, the instructor stood upright, maintained eye contact, and spoke fluidly without notes. In the disfluent video, the instructor slumped, looked away, and spoke haltingly with notes. After watching the video, participants in Experiment 1 were asked to predict how much of the content they would later be able to recall, and participants in Experiment 2 were given a text-based script of the video to study. Perceived learning was significantly higher for the fluent instructor than for the disfluent instructor (Experiment 1), although study time was not significantly affected by lecture fluency (Experiment 2). In both experiments, the fluent instructor was rated significantly higher than the disfluent instructor on traditional instructor evaluation questions, such as preparedness and effectiveness. However, in both experiments, lecture fluency did not significantly affect the amount of information learned. Thus, students’ perceptions of their own learning and an instructor’s effectiveness appear to be based on lecture fluency and not on actual learning.
Manipulated perceptions FTW. Overconfidence FTW. Gaming your mark FTW. How to win pussy and influence people FTW.
Appearance of competence or seductive prowess matters, and it matters in the biggest way: it increases reproductive fitness.
PS For the haters:
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Yep. The “toilet seat” rule. The key to attracting the attention of hot chicks is to look at her with the exact expression as you do a slightly dirty toilet seat.
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Exactly what I told my gf. She has 140 IQ and I’m 126 and we are both thin and athletic and pure white. We’re both 7s. We have a duty to our species to make at least 2 babies. All other kids today are obese and stupid except mine. Gf is exactly like the chick in the video.
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Exactly what I told MY gf. She has 14,000 IQ and I’m 12,600 and we are both superhuman and athletic and pure Aryan. We’re both 11s. We have a duty to our species to make at least 2000 babies.
Prove what I’m saying is wrong, interwebz!
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So you’re saying she’s a cunt?
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I see where you are coming from in a way
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White Clevon, meet Tavon White
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Chateau, I think you’re doing a good job destroying feminist lies, and I support you all the way on this. But I think it’s time you cut the beta males some slack. Because you know as well as I do that if there are no betas males, there is no society possible. There must be a way to debunk feminism while at the same time not destroying beta males, who were once respected leaders of the family unit.
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He’s no more “destroying” beta males than a safari researcher destroys a slow gazelle. Just observing natural lion behavior.
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I know what you mean, but Chateau doesn’t seem to make the important nuance between the current state of beta males VS what they are supposed to be. For instance, there is no reason for a beta male to be a coward, to be clingy, to be desperate. Beta males are supposed to be strong and respected, and not that far behind from alphas. They’re supposed to pull their weight in a team. The reason they don’t is because of feminism.
The term beta male has been thrown around to mean everything now. I’m pretty sure Chateau understands the difference , but most of its readers don’t.
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This *has* been discussed here by CH, who is obviously a former beta–and I mean that as a compliment to him. The betas of the WWII generation, my grandfather, were respected and were rewarded with a hot young feminine wife at age 22 who gave them kids (the boomers) and stayed with them forever. IN other words, my generation (age 38) is suffering precisely because we have the unfortunate timing of living at a turning point like peak oil–peak oil for betas and femcunts (women being allowed to be feral). So a guy my age who did everything right, meaning I am like my grandfather was, has been absolutely punished by the bitches of my generation. All having “me me I me I me mine myself!! me! me! me!” time in their 20s when they were supposed to be giving me babies and making my dinner hot and ready for me when I get home. So I have to work as hard as my grandfather did but I get none of the feminine love when I get home.
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you didn’t drive to the upscale supermarket, so now you’re crying to us about the poor selection of dogshit-quolity fruits & vegetables? Get your ass over to SE Asia and select a wife there. Yes, there’s possibility of problems once you bring them back here….. but females are all the same. If you maintain an Alpha frame in your homelife, then things will MOST LIKELY be fine.
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Mmmm. If at all possible, move to her country (or just visit regularly) and DO NOT import your foreign wife/gf to the US. I’ve seen so many guys do the import, then despair when their previously traditional/sweet girl goes native, then spins out and crashes chasing the twin sirens of feminism and consumerism.
First….consider how easily and thoroughly advertising, television, movies, etc. have swayed the minds of Western women — a group that shouldn’t be so easily duped, given that many are educated and could therefore be expected to be wise to the manipulations of the media. Then….try to imagine how forcefully those same manipulations might impact the mind of someone whose psyche hasn’t been immersed in that garbage since birth. You picking up what I’m laying down?
If you want to make sure your girl keeps exhibiting the traits that attracted you to begin with, keep her the fuck away from the smallpox blankets of Cosmo magazine and Oprah.
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Yes, there’s possibility of problems once you bring them back here….. but females are all the same.
Or just build connections with her family, stay in SE Asia, and get a job. The economies are better there than in the USA now anyway. And to top it off, the US government and a bunch of rich turd lobbyists are trying to pass “immigration reform” = “pissing on white Americans”.
If you maintain an Alpha frame in your homelife, then things will MOST LIKELY be fine.
Dudes who have problems with their Asian wives are probably uber-betas like this guy:
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/09/04/herb-attack/
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If we’re trying to keep the White Race pure, I’m pretty sure that running off to Asia to marry/impregnate Asian Females because they are more compliant and submissive than White Females is NOT an honorable recommendation.
Just sayin….
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If we’re trying to keep the White Race pure, I’m pretty sure that running off to Asia to marry/impregnate Asian Females because they are more compliant and submissive than White Females is NOT an honorable recommendation.
Just sayin….
No need to bother with Asia if you don’t have yellow fever. The Pussy Belt of Europe (defined as “anything from Germany on eastward and northward”) is good.
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“The betas of the WWII generation, my grandfather, were respected and were rewarded with a hot young feminine wife at age 22 who gave them kids (the boomers) and stayed with them forever.”
They also stormed the beaches of Normandy and the sands of Iwo Jima.
Hell, just getting out of basic training was never guaranteed – plenty of enlisted men died of heat exhaustion and mishandled ordinance [grenades, mortars, artillery shells] and vehicle/boat/plane wrecks, etc etc etc
And more than a few Non-Commissioned Officers were fragged by their own enlisted men just as soon as the EMs got their hands on some live ammunition at the rifle range.
Point being that as recently as about 50 years ago, simply being a man [alpha, beta, gamma, whatever] actually MEANT something.
But nowadays – what does being a man even MEAN anymore?
Other than the fact that the Frankfurt School is using every tool at its disposal – the entertainment media, the educational institutions, the family law courts, etc etc etc – to chop you off at the knees.
If Game is to serve any useful purpose at all, then, first and foremost, it must teach guys how to give a great big middle finger to the culture of modernity which has been foist upon them.
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No. Not all of them. My grandpa didn’t fight and still got a great wife.
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“My grandpa didn’t fight and still got a great wife.”
Which was exactly my point above: Back in the day, just making it out of basic training – even if they only assigned you to a desk job afterwards – was a real accomplishment.
But I don’t know that 1-in-10 of the fat fuck WOW-playing late-teen early-twenty manboob slobs whom I see on college campuses these days could last a single day in a WWII-era basic training camp, without collapsing and dying from heat stroke [if not from an outright myocardial infarction].
Back then – circa, say, 1960 – almost all USA men of age had had some sort of exposure to basic training in one of the services, and almost all of them [alpha, beta, gamma, whatever] knew what it was to be a man [whether they were natural “alpha” leaders, or natural “beta” seconds-in-command, or natural “gamma” followers, or whatever].
And that’s not including the bazillions of them who had seen actual combat time in WWII or Korea.
Heck, in 1960, the guys who had seen combat in WWI were only in their early sixties, and many of them might still have been sexy enough to have snagged some prime trim.
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Zombie Shane, the modern manboobz you’re describing came a generation or two after the cultural revolution, and is in some sense a sane response to it.
I think you underestimate the effects of growing up a white boy in a fatherless home with a bitter ex-carouseller mom; going to school every day where you’re taught that your race and culture and very existence mean little more than genociding the Indians and enslaving the blacks and oppressing women, etc. (having to write essays in which you reformulate your own moral depravity in your own words — re-education camp-style); eating a diet of fattening, addictive shit and not playing outside due to fear of .. whatever; having no masculine rituals of initiation (e.g. Boy Scouts) or even much contact with real men doing manly things; being plopped in front of the TV for 4-6 hours a day to receive more of the same message…
White men are, of all races, the most predisposed to moral universalism and self-scrutiny. We instinctively yearn to do the right thing. And we’ve been raised with the message that “the right thing” is basically not to exist.
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Reconsider your unquestioned assumption that you are as attractive as your grandfather. Plenty of things have changed; women aren’t the only ones who changed with them.
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yeah ixnae on the ‘manjaw’ too. A woman can be responsible for her fat and attitudes but how’s a woman supposed to be responsible for her jaw ?
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The corollary to the feminization of men is the masculinization of women. Both must be acknowledged.
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Not all manjaws are like that!
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As a woman, it appears to break out this way:
Alpha – man who understands how to be masculine, enjoys being masculine, and uses his masculinity to secure sex with hot women, which in turn increases his feelings of masculinity.
Beta – man who would like to be masculine, but has neither the knowledge nor ability to be so (or has bought into emasculating female bullshit), tries to engage with women on feminine terms, is summarily rejected (because not even lesbians want to fuck effeminates), and thus loses confidence in himself as a man
Omega – hopeless
This obviously is ignoring the socioeconomic aspects of alpha/beta/omega thing, and focusing on the psychological/sexual. By this definition and in this aspect of things, MOST men in the pre-feminist age were alpha, or at least, possessed enough self-confidence and inhabited a society that allowed them to function as such in regards to women.
(btw, if you ever want grade-a proof that my gender is completely insane, google “alpha/beta/omega”. Yields terrifying results)
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Great post… I think the haters will just start crawling in holes… or going back to WoW.
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The present study explored the effects of butthextual fluency on students’ metacognitive awareness and regulation. Participants watched one of two short videos of an instructor butthexting a scientific concept. In the fluent video, the instructor butthexted upright, maintained cockas contact, and butthextd fluidly without notes. In the disfluent video, the instructor slumped, looked away, and butthexted haltingly with notes perched on her ass lzolzlzz. After watching the video, participants in Experiment 1 were asked to predict how much of the butthext they would later be able to recall, and participants in Experiment 2 were given a text-based script of the video to study. Perceived learning was significantly higher for the fluent butthextr than for the disfluent buttehxter (Experiment 1), although study time was not significantly affected by butthetxual fluency (Experiment 2). In both experiments, the fluent buttetxter was rated significantly higher than the disfluent butthexter on traditional instructor evaluation questions, such as preparedness and effectiveness. However, in both experiments, butthextual fluency did not significantly affect the amount of information learned thorugh da bungholez. Thus, students’ perceptions of their own butthextual activitiesz and an instructor’s effectiveness appear to be based on butthextual fluency and not on actual butthext.
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GBFM: Is it wrong that, when I read your comments, I hear them all in Cornholio’s voice?
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they do both use “bungholozlzozlzz” but AFAIK Cornholio has never said “buttxhextolrlzlzlz”
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I’m pretty sure he hasn’t, but can’t you just hear him doing it?
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TITICACA!
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Dude, no homo here, for real, but I seriously wish I could meet or see a pic/profile of GBFM, for real. How old are you? Are you a bitter old man who writes this shit from your trailer all day in your tighty whiteys and wife beater with your long grey chest hairs sticking out (each hair is 4 inches long….9 total hairs)…or are you an actual PUA who bangs chicks like in your email about mass texting “lodlzolzozlzlz” and watching them come to your apartment? I’m just curious. Are you 35, 45, 65? What’s the dealzzz?
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Let me help you with this one. Grab an ear with each hand…Ok, now pull…When you hear the pop and smell fresh air, your head has exited your ass. Now drink up you little twit.
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This is why my first date strategy (which has been hammered on this blog by the commentors) of not touching, not talking about the next date, keeping it short and then bailing within 2 hours and not talking about seeing them again never fails me. I keep the tab under 20 bucks and then split. Then the next time i see them the panites are soaking wet. I think i bat over 85% incorporating this strategy.
It’s almost like i have to quasi reject the bitch, before she lets me fuck her. In fact, the hotter she is, the more important it is that i show 0% interest in banging her.
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I concur but shoot for max 1 hour. It is almost uncomfortably short and that discomfort will sends ALL the right messages
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Well then just have TWO bitches lined up for that evening. “Look at the time will ya–where’d that hour go? Gotta run!”
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You do right.
Perhaps they’re misunderstanding the difference between an actual first date, and actually trying to pick up a girl up in a bar/club on a night out.
Date-wise, The ‘I’m out with you, but you can’t truly have me’ vibe. They lap it up, even the ones you’ve been seeing for months. It’s crack to any girl with even the slightest of insecurities. And they all have them.
It will never get old.
As always, great post CH.
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I’m curious about your no touching philosoply… I’ve heard conflicting advice before – touch, and don’t touch. Lately it’s been a lot of the former. I’m still figuring things out one at a time, and there’s probably some subtilty I’m missing regarding this. Any thoughts?
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This is why my first date strategy (which has been hammered on this blog by the commentors) of not butthexting, not talking about the next buttehxt seesion, keeping it short and then cumming on her face and bailing within 2 hours and not talking about cumming on their face again never fails me. I keep the tab under 20 bucks and then split. Then the next time some beta sees them their bunghole is soaking wet. I think i bat over 85% incorporating this strategy.
It’s almost like i have to fuck the bitch, before she lets me reject her. In fact, the hotter she is, the more important it is that i show 100% interest in cumming on her face.
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Interesting, Hung One On You.
To clarify – I assume you meet her instead of picking her up (less effort)? And when you leave, there’s no kiss or hug?
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On the first date….nothing. I usually give them a hug at the end. But no touch, nothing on first meet up. I keep it light and funny. Sprinkle a few insults in. Usually I have a hunch on how things are going if they have a second drink. I never finish my drink before them to see if they order a second drink when the bartender comes around. If they order a second drink, i know i’m banging them within the next 2 dates. Rarely has a girl ordered a second drink and i don’t bang. So when they ask me if i want a second drink i reluctantly act like i want one….then usually by this point they have touched me…i don’t touch back…just keep it cool and funny.
Next date we do drinks again but at a nice place…usually i get a the full make out by the end of the date. I can push for sex if i want, but i usually lay back and then the third date i pull the home dinner move and we bang. In the summer time i protray it as “Grilling Out” so it lowers their worry. I’ve done this formula quite a few times. It is a little longer time period then most advocate for, but i’ve found that when i push too quickly, i can get the sex, but it gets tough to keep them around long term because they get wigged out about banging right away.
But if i wait three to four dates to bang, i usually have them on the rope for a solid 3 to 5 months before they start pressuring me about committment….at which point they get pissed and ditch me or i can string it out for a little while longer.
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Thanks. High-quality stuff. So many subtle things here that can easily be incorporated into game.
An alpha I am, but a PUA I’m not.
Always be learnin…
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This is nice contribution to this college of knollege:
“I never finish my drink before them to see if they order a second drink when the bartender comes around. If they order a second drink, i know i’m banging them within the next 2 dates. Rarely has a girl ordered a second drink and i don’t bang. So when they ask me if i want a second drink i reluctantly act like i want one”
Pure gold tactic. Well done & thanks for sharing. One little thing like that can make all the difference.
Your comments about waiting for 3 dates is good. I read Roosh and even a pro like him usually is at 3 dates so good enough for Roosh, good enough for me.
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Sounds like my own strategy, more or less.
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On the first date….nothing. I usually give them a face blaster at the end. But no touch, nothing on first meet up. I keep it light and funny. Sprinkle a few sum shots in. Usually I have a hunch on how things are going if they have a second suck on my cockas. I never finish myself off before them to see if they order a second suck on my cockas when the bartender comes around. If they order a second suck, i know i’m banging them within the next 2 minutes. Rarely has a girl ordered a second suck and i don’t bang. So when they ask me if i want a second suck i reluctantly act like i want one….then usually by this point they have touched me…i don’t touch back…just keep it cool and funny in their mouth.
Next date we do drinks again but at a nice place like my porch…usually i get a the full hentoi session by the end of the date. I can push for gangbang if i want, but i usually lay back and then the third date i pull the bring da movies move and we gangbang. In the summer time i protray it as “Eating Me Out” so it lowers their worry. I’ve done this formula quite a few times. It is a little longer time period then most advocate for, but i’ve found that when i push it in der bunghole too quickly, i can get the butthsex, but it gets tough to keep them around long term because they get wigged out about banging right away, which is awesome.
But if i wait three to four dates to gangbang, i usually have them tied with a the rope for a solid 3 to 5 months before they start pressuring me about committment….at which point they get pissed and blow me or i can string my cockas out for a little while longer.
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So I’m catching up on this Jodi Arias trial with the guilty veridtc and all. Her defense made me think of GBFM, lzolzolzolzo…she was butthexed and desouled..lotza cockaz….
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1302/06/ng.01.html
NANCY GRACE
Jodi Arias`s Anal Sex Defense
Aired February 6, 2013 – 20:00 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
JODI ARIAS, CHARGED WITH MURDER: I was in my church clothes. He was in his church clothes. I could feel an erection.
Those are pictures of Travis`s erection.
He had anal sex with me.
I kind of felt like a prostitute.
The first night was the grinding and the next night was oral sex.
I felt used. I kind of felt like a prostitute.
I kind of felt like a used piece of toilet paper.
(INAUDIBLE) and he stopped. It became too painful.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The vow of chastity.
ARIAS: No premarital sex. Vaginal sex was off limits, and everything else was more or less OK.
It was a little confusing, the sex.
Sex is sex. He sort of had, like, the Bill Clinton version.
Oral and anal sex were also sex to me but not for him.
He finished by (EXPLETIVE DELETED) on my back.
Called me a skank.
Called me Pollyanna.
Porn star.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
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Sounds like a rap song from the girls perspective…
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“but i’ve found that when i push too quickly, i can get the sex, but it gets tough to keep them around long term because they get wigged out about banging right away.”
For the record, this is a fixable thing, if you want to fix it. You’re fucking up somewhere in comfort/rapport and/or in handling Buyer’s Remorse after sex. It wouldn’t take a lot of work to solidify this part of your game so you were able to convert fast lays into longer-term relationships.
But if what you’re doing works for you, and you’re fine with the pace of it, then fuck it, keep it up. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it and all that lol
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I’ve read that strategy from Thomas Hodge’s “The System”. It’s more geared towards finding a girl who is relationship material…but a lot of what is said here is the same stuff.
The other part is not contacting them for at least 5-9 days after the first date.
What happens is….you figure out within one date whether they dig you…or not. It puts you as the qualifier and saves time and money.
If they do dig you then kiss them on the second date.
I can tell you I’ve done this quite a bit and you will get a lot of women to flake out on you…this filters out a lot of bad ones.
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dude…. 5 to 9 days?? no wonder I suck. I know the rule but I think I’m doing good if I wait THREE DAYS
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Keep yourself busy with other matters and 5 days will fly by.
I’ve had chicks come back to me months after I stopped contact.
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Is there no blowback from not touching? The 5-9 days bit is solid, and this is a solid plan to become the qualifier, but can’t you apply that and still touch? I’d be concerned with coming off as too icy, antisocial, or feigning “too cool”, when it was me who set up the meet in the first place.
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I don’t follow that waiting bullshit. I’ve figured out that for the most part it doesn’t really matter and that if you wait too long, you lose momentum. As for the not touching stuff…not really. I think this mostly has to do with the fact that most guys who go out with chicks put their hands all over them. I think the not touching sends a strong active disinterest which is always key. I also never go to a really nice place first date and i ALWAYS sit at the bar. Never a table and i try to find a place that is not crowded so the convo isn’t difficult. Honestly, I usually just go to a regular old dive bar and have beers and they order a glass of wine. Ive found a place with a cheap happy hour that’s half decent, but don’t want to blow the cover there.
Honestly…i’d say 50% of the chicks i take out reach out to me the next day which everyone knows is a dead give away.
I will also give a lot of credit to this blog and to Roosh’s book and website. I started a lot from scratch by just reading here and following a lot of this advice and then some trail and error. Roosh advocates for pushing first date, but for some reason that doesn’t work that well for me. Different ways to skin a cat I guess.
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I thought most guys are afraid to touch, so doing it sets you apart from other guys who are either timid or antisocial. Do you really think it’s become the norm now, that guys have caught on and touch too much?
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if they have, I don’t see it…
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I thought most guys are afraid to touch, so doing it sets you apart from other guys who are either timid or antisocial. Do you really think it’s become the norm now, that guys have caught on and touch too much?
No, I agree with Hung on this one. There are ways to clearly get it across that you aren’t afraid of touching her without getting your mitts all over her all evening — especially in public. One way is to lean in and get your face an inch or two away from hers once in a while. Or touch her lower back (the “hineyhand” technique that CH talked about a little while ago). The best kino is subtle and projects your dominance and fearlessness.
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“I don’t follow that waiting bullshit. I’ve figured out that for the most part it doesn’t really matter and that if you wait too long, you lose momentum. ”
So true on the losing momentum thing. When people drop off the planet without any expectation of return, life does eventually go on. If a woman is just sitting around stagnating, the man can return and she’ll be in the same spot emotionally. But, if she is attractive at all and at some point can move on, someone else will have moved into the top billing slot. Don’t break contact if its someone you really want.
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“dude…. 5 to 9 days?? no wonder I suck.”
Pun intended?
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Could you explain what the strategy behind waiting 5-9 days is? Thank you. I often get lost between subway stops and in my advanced state of alcohol psychosis forget which innocent commuter I am targeting or a splooge ambush.
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Mike: So how long do I wait to call?
Trent: A day.
Mike: Tomorrow.
Sue: Tomorrow, then a day.
Trent: Yeah.
Mike: So two days?
Trent: Yeah, I guess you could call it that, two days.
Sue: Definitely, two days is like industry standard.
Trent: You know I used to wait two days to call anybody, but now it’s like everyone in town waits two days. So I think three days is kind of money. What do you think?
Sue: Yeah, but two’s enough not to look anxious.
Trent: Yeah, two’s enough not to look anxious. But I think three days is kind of money. You know because you…
Mike: Yeah, but you know what, maybe I’ll wait 3 weeks. How’s that? And tell her I was cleaning out my wallet and I just happened to run into her number.
Charles: Then ask her where you met her.
Mike: Yeah, I’ll ask her where I met her. I don’t remember. What does she look like? And then I’ll asked if we fucked. Is that… would that be… T, would that be the money?
Trent: You know what. Ha ha ha Mike, laugh all you want but if you call too soon you might scare off a nice baby who’s ready to party.
Mike: Well how long are you guys gonna wait to call your babies?
Trent, Sue: Six days.
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Are you getting bored?
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Being bored is an insult oneself. I amuse the hell out of me.
I am experiencing a tipping point here, though. Law of diminishing returns. Not many people saluting what I run up the flagpole. Which is a condemnation of them more than me. C’est la internet. I don’t care to devote many more resources to this mini-enterprise.
Flirting is interesting and entertaining to discuss, but it’s not worth microdocumenting. Should have evolved by now into something I could better sink my teeth into. But they’re mostly just faking it, trying to transfer real-world skills into a comprehensive philosophy. Epic failure looms. It’s a beautiful fetus of a movement on the cusp of bloody tragic miscarriage.
Matt
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You feel like a passionate BF who lost his desire for his beloved. Although, sometimes, things could resurrect a new. You never know 🙂
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breaks are a good thing but its never quite the same and then the breaks need to come quicker for the same satisfaction till there is nothing
then get a new one
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lol. Soon as 2 + 2 realizes it SHOULD be 5, everyone will understand that I’m a mathematical genius!
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Not talking to you, with you, at you, about you, or for your benefit.
You are a position coach obsessed with teaching base-runners how to steal bags. I am a general manager assembling a team to win the World Series. We need you as a small piece of the puzzle, but you cannot comprehend what I do.
Every advanced concept seems like “2 + 2 = 5” to someone who just figured out that “2 + 2 = 4.” You are a self-declared “master” of basic arithmetic going over multiplication tables again and again and again: a student teacher at an elementary school, every year come fresh newbies for you to demonstrate your mastery against. I understand your permanent confusion.
Matt
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@Matt
“you cannot comprehend what I do.”
I don’t see how I would have trouble comprehending “sitting in a basement, friendless, scarfing down potato chips while doing a daily round of swooping across the internet claiming superiority over guys living way more interesting lives, followed by rubbing one out to furry porn and trying to remember what a vagina feels like”.
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Time for marriage and children for you. You are more than ready.
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Hey, do what you gotta do to pretend I don’t exist. Tell yourself tales about who I must be in order to fit me into your dull conception of the world. You’re not the first to be baffled into incoherent fantasizing. He’s not possible! what am I missing! it must be he lives friendless in a basement! Yeah, that’s it. All better now.
Yours is the insecure version of having to pinch yourself in my presence, to remember you’re not dreaming. Not coincidentally, that’s the standard female reaction too.
Unfortunately roaches like you persist in these places, through all the changes.
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@Matt
Wow it’s like you’re inside my mind!! lololol
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That world series line is one of the stupidest things I’ve ever read. Ya Really’s been killing it for years on here.
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Once again reduced to a sad lil “lol.” Your posturing is weak.
If you want to pretend you are above it all, try not responding whatsoever. Your pissy puerile parting shots just reinforce your failure. No reply is better than a “nuh uh nuh uh nuh uh infinity!”
No worries, I blame myself more than you. Like I said, c’est la internet.
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I don’t see how I would have trouble comprehending “sitting in a basement, friendless, scarfing down potato chips while doing a daily round of swooping across the internet claiming superiority over guys living way more interesting lives, followed by rubbing one out to furry porn and trying to remember what a vagina feels like”.
Really? This is the best you can come up with? A South Park snarky equivalent of the Cathedral’s usual “you’re just jealous/small-dicked/can’t get girls” litany?
I find it hard to comprehend that such paucity of creative thought and wit could possibly lead any sort of interesting life.
You’re the Pee Wee Herman to Matt’s one-two punch persona of Dan Draper Meets Mr. Chips.
Douche of the Month… yet again.
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yah western sciencessz proves wetsenr great books prove heartistetes!!!
but da haterrrtz gonna h8!
and nowwwww here, for teh first timezzz in tis entireetetyyu
is DA GBFM’S POETERYIES MASTERPIECEE IN ITS ENTIRERRYTTY!! LZOzozozozo
DA H8R’S GONNA H8!
aka( da decline of the westz) lzozozozo
by GBFM circa 2013 lzlzozozoz
yo yo yo drop me a beat heartiste
yo yo yo
da butthurt hatersz gonna hate
hate da heartiste so great
dey have a bernankifed womenz in their fate
but for now dey just masterbate
da hatersz gonna hate
though heartiste didn’t fill their plate
the table was set by feminist freight
who make you wait while they gain weight
make you wait for what they gave 4 free
when they were younger hotter tighter
and now you have got to pay a fee
for what da gbfm got 4 free when it was 50 pounds lighter
da butthurt hatersz gonna hate
homer shakespeare moses and jesus
to please their churchian elders oh so great
who deconstructed the honor of zeus
da haterz gonna hatez
when you demand what your forefatherz had
a virginal wife who don’t need butthext to sate
who won’t seize your kids when u become a dad
a woman who wasn’t buttehxted bernankiifed in college
a woman who don’t hate GBFM knowledge
women who weren’t taught to seize your assets
after dey bernankified them in their asses
da little hatersz gonna hate
as their single mommies taught them to do
hate is the primary butthurt beta schlub’s trait
as his mommy was desouled through her hole for poo.
she was bernankifed in college
so the beenrnkae state could tell her what to do
divorced & exiled your FATHER’s gbfm knowledge
dates a biker who serves her hole for poo.
yes da fanboy butthurt haterz gonna hate
hate heartistez for opening their eyesz
with the truth that sets us free so great
but da butthurtz haterz perfer da butthext Matrix’s liez
lzoozlzoozozlzoz
da hatersz gonna hate the Truth
but time and rhyme doth offer proof
you don’t need to be no supersleuth
but just watch the magician heartiste go poof
da fed central banks always play both sides
crushing the nice beta guy in the middle
funding both porn and feminist alpha cock rides
then the beta they collectively diddle
blaming the nice beta guy for their sore buttholes
announcing they’re entitled to the beta’s taxes
he never got his cockas in any of her holes
and poetic the white night beta waxes
as the women run around with felons
and rhianna runs on back to chris brown
ruled by butt and gina tingle turn ons
in da gina juices civivilzation doth drown
then they accuse the beta of sexual harrassment
for simply asking a single mom on a date
as she and bernaneke grow the government
she banged an alpha last month, now she’s late
and they fund all the white knight manginas
who blame all of mankind from the TED stage
as the technocrats never, ever pause
in their leveling assault on Achilles’ NOBLE RAGE.
as they deconstruct and outlaw manhood
and laud and applaud every manboob
as the fed must convert its fiat debt into property
sending fmeinists forth to seize beta pay
promsing womenz all the buttcockng they want
before during and after marriage
the fed’s wealth transfer from betas they front
as men from ebernakes law shools they disparage
lzozolozlololozolzozzlozlzlzoz
da little ritalinz addicted fanboy beta schlubs
mashing buttonz in their sngle mom’s basements
hating heartiste while whacking in the tub
an voting for bigger governmentz
da butthurtz fatherless fanboy bloggers
whiney whiney developing smartphone apps
which dey wish would make them scroggerz
letting tehir women be deosuled through her hole for craps
raging and seething against the great books for men
like a butthurt churchian with closed eyes
taught to hate every great who raised a pen
taught that jesus forgives them for their lies
taught worngly that jesus came to abolish the law
taught that moses’ law no longer applies
they hate and attack heartistez tooth and claw
as the western heritage their noble fatherz bequeathed them dies
little fanboy churchian beta schlubz
attacking heartsets out of jealousy
because deep down they know the rub they must rub
while da heartisetz getsz da pussies for free
fro which da beta schlubz must some pay a fee
which they will do like a white knight gallantly
and on the stage at TED they will be
helpding the FED end the West for the Free
paving the way for the fiat banker tyranny
as the churchians attack GBFM from sea to shinging sea
and teach all that Christ hated Moses’ poetry
using Christ as a mere gimmick to fill their cofferz
while in the back room back door they boff her
and tell and preach to their congregation
that their fornication is for the nation
that jseus forgives them for theiur buttsexual machinations
that all the single moms childrens born by thugs
must now be paid for by all the betas
it’s time for betas to man up with manly hugs
let their manboobs touch in teh embrace of omegas
time for betas to man up and marrry the slutz
to foot the billz as slaves for aothers spawn
take all the risk and get none of the buttz
for tis a brave new world and a brave new dawn
as the fiat masters deconstrcued property rightz
and the fiat debt creators ruled via fiat power
as the west faded into a long, dark long night,
while the betas hated heartiste into tehir last hour.
as they had been drugged up on ritalin and dumbed down
taught to hate GBFM and feel guilty for honor and truth
and now the west in their self beta pity doth drown
as they ignodred every sign which offred proof.
as teh little chruchian turned against what could help them,
the butthurt chruchian raged against Homer and Jesus,
the butthurt fanboy chruchian raged against the GBFM pen,
as they tried to exalt chruchian butthext over Zeus.
lzozozozoozozozozozzloz
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I have a strong suspicion that GBFM in reality is none other than Kim Jong Un. The irony…
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here is a video of meemme having funzzz!!!
lzozozozo
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GBFM puts the dick in dictator.
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GBFM puts da dick in dicktator
takes it our, leaving ator
and puts it in your mom’s mouth
and then says “see ya later gator!”
the ator needs my lostass cockas backz
so dat ator can be dictator leaving your mom
witgh my giant GBFm ball sakcz
lzlzlzlzzozoz
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Nah… North Koreans don’t have a sense of humor.
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Sure they do. They have a woman in the South as president. Now that is funny. The Commander In Chief has to sit to take a piss, just like our president.
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I read that quickly. It seems that the advantage of being aloof is on the lower side of moderate (B = -.32)- though I am not sure about what a typical regression coefficient looks like for attractiveness studies. Also seems that aloofness is perceived as positive or negative depending on the anxiety-attachment level of the participant. Not sure if the study looked at an interaction between gender, responsiveness of the partner and anxiety attachment level in the subject.
Anecdotally, does it seem that some women respond poorly to aloofness based on how clingy they are?
[CH: Increased anxiety is always a feature of any first date interaction, no matter how composed or clingy the woman. So this study shows that it makes sense for men to be more aloof in the early stages of a budding romance, and then to dial it back and show more signs of commitment as the relationship progresses, if that’s what the men want.]
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1. The study needs to control for male physical attractiveness (and relative perceived status).
It’s very plausible that female subjects will rate a dork who nods at them a couple of times as “too interested”, whereas a male model could do the same thing and female subjects will feel he’s not that into them.
2. “Rather than trying to empathize with a new interest, “just really listen, without interrupting,” says Birnbaum.”
Wow, just wow. Leave it to a nerd scientist to CONTRADICT his own data about chicks with some bullshit advice that boils down to, “Listen nicely to women.” One would think that interrupting, rather than listening, would demonstrate aloofness.
LOL!
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the data can scream the truth, but that’s just not going to cut it. you can’t believe what a woman says she wants, ever. she (birnbaum) finds a way to twist her mountain of data to fit what she expects to want.
it’s additionally entertaining when you see her picture and realize she’s likely trying to fit this clear outcome to her past dating life.
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“2. “Rather than trying to empathize with a new interest, “just really listen, without interrupting,” says Birnbaum.”
Wow, just wow. Leave it to a nerd scientist to CONTRADICT his own data about chicks with some bullshit advice that boils down to, “Listen nicely to women.” One would think that interrupting, rather than listening, would demonstrate aloofness.”
I also found it funny that the researcher’s interpretation of “non-responsiveness” was to quietly listen. I would guess that being a passive listener as opposed to a dismissive distant guy is even worse than responsiveness.
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It’s all about how the quiet listening is displayed. Staring info her eyes fearful of judgment and leaning in and nodding like shes your supervisor telling you how it is versus sitting back in your chair smirking at her like you’ve already heard her joke are two different things. Awkward judgmental silence when she’s finished talking only drives the point home further.
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“Listen”. Oh God,do we HAVE to?
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[CH: Increased anxiety is always a feature of any first date interaction, no matter how composed or clingy the woman. So this study shows that it makes sense for men to be more aloof in the early stages of a budding romance, and then to dial it back and show more signs of commitment as the relationship progresses, if that’s what the men want.]
The study said:
Using Aiken and West’s (1991) procedure, we
found that perceiving the confederate as responsive increased
sexual desire when attachment-related avoidance was low (1
SD below the mean), β = .35, p < .05, and decreased sexual
desire when attachment-related avoidance was high (1 SD
above the mean), β = −.29, p < .05.
They did look at an interaction between attachment related avoidance and gender but did not find significant results in any of the studies they looked at. I don’t know if this means that “attachment related avoidance” mitigates the effect of male non-responsiveness in the early phases of dating. You are saying that it does not and that signs of commitment should only shown later (presumably after you have secured the woman’s attachment to you).
If you say so. For my part, men are the chasers, so none of them look aloof to me. I am not conscious of which ones appear more or less responsive.
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” I am not conscious of which ones appear more or less responsive.”
Says the hamster. Follow your gina tingles
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To clarify, I don’t recall registering guys as aloof vs non-aloof on a first date. Aloof vs non aloof within a relationship is very obvious though. On a first date, this must work as subconscious signalling.
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you are way overthinking this
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aloof on a first date you can still smell the pussy on him from the date before you
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Nothing’s new under the sun:
http://www.bakadesuyo.com/2012/01/do-women-who-really-enjoy-sex-prefer-bad-boys/
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A most excellent post! I love the explanations of the flirt, how women enjoy the escalation to rationalize their behavior. It makes perfect sense. The only thing is that it makes it too funny putting it in action, watching her interest, excitement and attraction grow with each pull back, each little neg, the touch, the wrist hold, the joke, the bored look away, the kiss.
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“Girls like their male sexual intention on a need-to-know basis: Expertly concealed and fully revealed only when the tip has breached and all hope of maintaining an illusion of coyness is lost.”
Actually, women like everything on a “need to know basis.” That’s how a man leads her.
When it’s sexual, he slowly takes her to where he wants her. And, it also provides concealment of her sluttiness. She can always convince herself that she had no idea where this was heading. LOL!
I just don’t understand these silly men that say on the first date they don’t play games. Why even mention that? Are you trying to reassure her? You sound less manly and more desperate. Of course, you should play games. Women thrive on games. Why deprive her of the fun?
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why starve behaviors that bely a cultural illness that afflicts women in 2013…
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I suspect it’s behaviors that always afflicted women from time immemorial. It’s just that now we are more aware of them because women don’t hide behind a goody goody exterior any longer.
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Women dig aloof assholes that are not [laundry list of troll projecting its insecurities]
[CH: Did you see anything in these studies that said women only liked the aloof brad pitts? No? That’s right. Scurry back to your masturbatorium and return when you have advanced in reading comprehension to post-kindergarten.]
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they just want to be “loved” by a nice guy.
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Still hilarious two years later.
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here’s dr birnbaum, for what it’s worth
https://sites.google.com/site/birnbaumgurit/home/cv/pics
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hint: kids, cats, horses…
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Would bang
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yeah but you have no standards
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She looks like Michael Jackson in this one.
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I would place her at a hard 6-soft 7 (adjusted for age)…she looks like she has a good shape anyway….
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Give her daughter 5-7 years,and the rapidly blooming lil minx will contrast with the rapidly fading post-wall doctor. Should be quite the show!
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She is about a 7 due to her age. At least she is slender and athletic. She was probably around 8 when she was a younger woman.
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Alpha Men have a will to dominate through power.
Alpha Women have a will to seduce power.
When the the woman has achieved her seduction, she gets bored and is ready for the next seduction.
The chump who listens attentively and shows how much he is into her is not a target worthy of seduction. She gets bored and has no desire to seduce.
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Very interesting. Game is manipulation. If a guy is running game, he is manipulating, even when he’s doing it subtly. Alpha women manipulate too as long as it’s within the confines of their femininity, meaning manipulating him manipulating her. I don’t think they seduce outright. They just create conditions that cause their own seduction. This is how they get what they really want without being too forward about it. It’s manipulating form the bottom.
But a woman loses interest if her man becomes too beta as the relationship progresses. So you always have to dominate through power because females are attracted most to power. And I agree, the more alpha the woman, that more attracted to power she is.
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welp, contrary to all advice here, I got my 37-year-old ex GF a ring. But she’s not going to give me a chance to give it to her. What should I do?
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I don’t understand what you did. I also don’t understand what you’re asking.
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Bought ring. Want to propose. But she’s so mad at me that she won’t see me so I can’t even give her the ring.
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I told her I want to give her babies.
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i’ve been traveling abroad for a few weeks and haven’t been keeping up with this place. are you one of the new trolls?
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Obviously. 1) she’s 37 y.o., 2) she’s his ex.
(shakes mah haid)
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Not a troll just a dork.
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Why would she want rabies?
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most appropriate response
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Tell her that her pussy rocks.
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cockring?
he he he
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got my exchick a ring for 200
bought it for 60 to hold for her
returned for 200
profit
somewhat lol
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Count your blessings, move on.
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Stop acting completely insane, go to Asia and get a 19 year old.
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This, or maybe just shoot yourself.
Have you learned nothing from the manosphere about dealing with broads? Supplication *never* begets penetration.
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A nipple ring?
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Take a picture of it.
Take a picture of you returning it.
Text it to her.
Block her number.
Find a woman who wants babies – it’s likely she’s not going to be able to give them to you anyway at 37, and with that kind of attitude, she won’t, even if she could.
(or it’s possible that she’s infertile, or knows she’s past her time, and is just being really super emotional about you asking something she knows she can’t offer. But it’s her job to tell you that, not yours to operate under the best possible assumption about what’s going on.)
Either way, if you marry her, you’re not going to get the family that you want. Is she worth it?
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the bigger issue is that as girls get ready to jump off the carousel, their needs for alpha are through the roof so settling for beta feels worse than if they had settled earlier. they then are almost completely desensitized and unable to provide any emotional intimacy which is the only real thing that a woman can give a man.
they have literally ruined 3-4 generations.
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This
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you forgot the lolzoloz and shout out to Homer.
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lzozozozozozozozo HOMER!!! zlzoozzoozo
buttehxed and desouled
bernakkfied every which way to sunday
in her mounth gina and buttholelez
and sent forth by ben bernanke 2 seize your pay
lzlzlzzzozozoz
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I believe that is what GBFM means by them getting “desouled.” Lzzololzzolloz.
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Before I discovered the manosphere, I followed a corollary to the Costanza Principle: “Ask women for advice on picking up chicks and do the opposite of whatever they tell you.” For example, they would tell me I should be a warm, loving, caring, sensitive guy who is concerned about her feelings and makes her feel like a princess. Instead I became a cold, aloof, insensitive jerk who thought of himself as the prize that women must earn and not the other way around. I soon had more girls wanting to go on dates than I knew what to do with.
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When a woman produces a list of what she “wants in a man” the thing that she’s not upfront about is that this what she wants from a guy that she’s already attracted to.
When a man asks, “What does a woman want?” he’s asking, “How do I become that guy?”
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No need for a scientific study on this though – just check out all the girls on facebook liking instagram self-photos that some thugish bad-boy posted. Then look at all their comments about how they never find a nice guy. Hamsters are Prozac-proof.
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Male desperation kills tingles dead.”””””””’
yea went on a trip over the weekend
got 500 calls from exchick
visited friend from high school was good to get away
came back she was on fire again
especially when I said i’m gonna start picking up regular bitches again and need to replace her ass
always comes back to for me ya got to be fucking other bitches
plus it was nice face fucking her into oblivion
just hate fuckin she came back next day showed me her lips all fucked up from the teeth he he he
she liked it though sick bitch
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she told some chick I beat her
no wonder that chick showed up to my door at 4 in morning
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her husband calls her 500 times she calls me 500 times I guess whoever you want to be
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Beautiful!
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It’s better to be an asshole than a nice guy but them dam eastern european bishes is miscalibrating mon americain game.
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“Female desperation is largely irrelevant in the context of female attractiveness.”
Maybe in the short-term, but in the long-term female desperation (aka being easy) just signals low value and men lose interest. That’s why women are taught to play hard-to-get if they want men to stick around.
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Hard to get is a shit test, a woman’s assessment of a man’s alphaness. When male value is high the woman reduces the barriers to sex. When the woman is hot enough a man doesn’t care if she’s needy or desperate. Short term or long term attractiveness trumps all.
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So true. have you ever noticed how girls who say “but I slept with him on the 1st, 2nd or 3rd date and he still dated me for a long time” tend to be super hot? or at least more than 2 points hotter than the guy? Truth is, most guys but especially betas will wife up a chick they banged easily if she is hot enough. It is the average/plain/uggos janes who get pumped and dumped on average when they give it up easily because all the guy was interested in was a easy warm hole that offered some release. Of course, there are super attractive girls who bang alphas and cannot get any commitment out of said alpha too but it is to be determined whether they would have been able to procure commitment if waited a long time to have sex.
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Can’t get an alpha to commit?
Buy a more expensive purse, anything above $3000 should do the job
hehehe
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currently in a relaish with one…you are not paying attention.
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a completely accurate assessment, in my view
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“Truth is, most guys but especially betas will wife up a chick they banged easily if she is hot enough.”
Actually, most men will find it hard to wife up a girl who gave it up too quickly, no matter how hot she is. Once you slept with a guy too fast, you have an uphill battle. I’m not saying it’s impossible, just unlikely, even for the poor beta. I think men are wired to wife up a woman that is seemingly pure (even if she isn’t), so dropping those panties too fast isn’t a good strategy vis a vis men. In fact, if you’re hot, really hot, the best thing to do is to wait as long as possible to have sex. Men will wait when you’re hot. On the other hand, an average woman has no bargaining chips. You don’t have to be cold; you could do everything but…….and most of the time he’ll wait, especially if you still give him pleasure.
In addition, a woman who slept too fast with a man she fancies, might have feelings of unease or buyer’s remorse soon after, so she begins getting antsy and worried that he will never think of her as wife material. What she often does is end it and try not to repeat the same mistake again (but bad habits are hard to break lol). Being thought of a slut is very emotionally trying for a female. I think being (or acting pure) is wired up in women. Often, she gets so restless that if he doesn’t end it, she eventually ends it – mostly because she feels that an alpha wouldn’t wife up the likes of her, and if her sleeping with him on the first date didn’t bother him, then he’s no alpha. Women want to feel worthy of being wifed up if they are going to respect that man.
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True. How soon is too soon these days anyway? For me, sleeping with someone when you have gone on less that 4 dates and/or have known each other for less than 4 weeks is too soon. But I feel the 3 month rule is too cliché, I strive for 6-7weeks or ~8-10 dates. Thing is, if it has progressed that long there is a huge chance he really likes me.
OTOH, I did sleep with my ex-fiancé on the second date and we were together 3+ years.
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“OTOH, I did sleep with my ex-fiancé on the second date and we were together 3+ years.”
As I said, sometimes it works out. But you also have to take into consideration that:
1) He might not have been an alpha so he accepted that you dropped your panties too soon.
2) In the end, you didn’t last. The question now is who broke up with whom? Even if you broke up with him, think if it was because he wasn’t alpha enough??? Anyway, it seems as if you learned from that experience and take much longer to become intimate with a man, and that’s very good.
“For me, sleeping with someone when you have gone on less that 4 dates and/or have known each other for less than 4 weeks is too soon.”
That’s definitely true.
“Thing is, if it has progressed that long there is a huge chance he really likes me.”
That’s also true, usually. But it’s even more true when he’s an alpha willing to wait because he thinks you’re hot, and I don’t mean PUA when I said alpha. PUA will never wait. PUAs are only interested in hit and run.
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@ Lily, he was a nice chap but as Beta as they came. I broke up with him and just 4 days ago he sent about 18 text messages pleading with me to reconsider getting back together. His texts messages will definitely fail the videotron (or is it jumbotron?) test. Ugh, I wish there was a way for me to let him know that these gestures make him less attractive. I have seriously thought of sending him a link to the Chateau, but he would be able to tell who I am (on here) easily.
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Oh yeah, without a doubt, he will be able to know who you are. It’s too bad; he could have used this site. Anyway, don’t be irritated with him. He is probably a very nice guy, just not right for you.
I haven’t been here that much lately so I don’t know the status, how is it going with your ex-mobster?
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Things with the ex-mobster now reformed Christian is going good. I am going spending mother’s day with his mom. So I think that’s a good sign! 😀
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“When male value is high the woman reduces the barriers to sex.”
Not sure about this. Unless you mean SEXUAL value. Even then….
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This. All that hard to get goes out the window when a tall millioanire walks in the room.
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The art of flirting is the progression of an intensifying series of sweet little lies intended to provide plausible deniability cover for a woman as she steers her burning libido through labyrinthine and often misdirecting pathways put into service to maximize her hypergamous rewards and minimize the threat to her reputation and the risk of post-coital abandonment or unworthy insemination.
What an awesome fucking statement.
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I read that 4 times…FTW
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lzoozzozo
yes while she crave alpha fucks and beta bucks, she must pretend the oppositezz
such is they mystery of owmne womenz
laid bare
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I azalea biz db vs dad
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Asshole/cocky game works. Try this right now. Find a pretty girl at work. Say, “I can’t wait till tomorrow.” She will not be able to resist with responding, “Why?” You respond, “Cause I get better looking every day.”
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My first interaction with my “girl at work” was just me blatantly staring into her cleavage. Bangin’ her on the reg now.
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It’s all fun and games until somebody calls HR, right?
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Males?!, students’ perceptions of their own learning and an instructor’s effectiveness appear to be based on lecture fluency and not on actual learning.)
Who Knew The TED Talks Were Produced using Game?!
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Hamster rationalization live on national television!!
Watch as Farrah Abraham tries to spin her million dollar PORNO into a “not a porn tape” lolzzzlolozzlolz
da GBFM is going to have a field day with this one
Guys this is tooo much must watch
http://jezebel.com/whats-the-difference-between-a-sex-tape-and-a-porno-493178052
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I’m not sure whether she’s a trolling genius, an utter fruitcake, or both. She made a porn flick with a well-known male porn star, then claimed it was a sex tape, then claimed it was a porno, then claimed Vivid paid her in the high six figures for it. I guess that’s possible if you count the ones after the decimal point.
For the curious, here are the screencaps. That was all I cared to see. Needless to say, not safe for work or anywhere else.

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Also noteworthy is the differing style of justification in the comments on Jezebel. Depending on the personal statues of the commenter, they either view her video as liberating in the context of taking control of her sexuality or victimize her as a pawn of the patriarchy. The sluttier the championing of her right to be a nasty skank on film, the closer the wall approaches for the commenter, and the longer her carousel ride has been. The younger feminists being less experinced whores who still believe they have a chance at landing a rich guy fancy her and by extension themselves as victims.
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Regarding “seeming too caring on a first date”… Just don’t be like the guys in this video: http://documentaryheaven.com/thai-brides-louis-theroux/
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Picked up six phone numbers in the past few weeks using the “put your number in my phone” technique, in the computer lab where I do my work. They’re all 20-23 y.o. 7s and 8s. It’s like shooting fish in a barrel. Could have easily gotten more but the others were under my hotness limit. I’m probably good for the summer.
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(Review)
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/02/22/lazy-cad-game/
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Eh. Phone numbers don’t mean a whole hell of a lot. I can walk into the local student nightclub at 11:30 and usually come back with a couple numbers at the end of the night (at least some of them are real numbers), but nothing generally comes of it.
Maybe it works better for you though, nightclubs generally aren’t my preferred environment. Have you gotten any dates ought of it?
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A bit different, since I make rapport and talk to them a couple of times before springing my phone on them.
I generally don’t ask for numbers at a bar or nightclub. I’ve pulled it off occasionally but generally, for the girls who are 7s and above, the bitch shields are on full strength if they don’t know me from somewhere else.
Dates? Well, finals week is almost done so I’ll find out shortly.
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Yeah, nightclubs aren’t my favoured scene, though they’re better than nothing (and it’s good practice for chatting with new girls, I guess). I’m more comfortable chatting up girls at volunteer work, sometimes at church, at the research station where I work, or at house parties (which I wish I got invited to more of).
Finals week is over here, so I might try messaging some of the girls I’ve met over the last few weeks. (I sort of wussed out and asked for their FB pages instead of phone numbers, but that’s better than nothing I guess, and I’ll certainly be seeing them around again next semester).
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(I sort of wussed out and asked for their FB pages instead of phone numbers, but that’s better than nothing I guess, and I’ll certainly be seeing them around again next semester).
The danger about FB is that you get OCD and it kills mystery. I’ve gotten dates occasionally through FB, but never got anywhere… although granted, that could be due to my own herbish behavior on the dates rather than FB per se.
Also, if a girl (invariably in the 4-6 range of attractiveness) got a crush on me, she’d facebook ME.
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FR.
One of the six numbers was of a girl that I knew had a BF. Called her, got no answer or call back. Putting on back burner.
The second girl I called answered, then at one point said she was at her son’s house. Okay, that would explain her flirtatiousness. She’s pretty hot, but I now look at single moms the way I do at dog shit.
Third girl I called dropped the “my boyfriend” a short while in. Into the platonic bin with her.
Three left. I also have some other numbers from earlier, and tried one of them; no answer. The others would involve reestablishing rapport and momentum.
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Anecdotal evidence that overconfidence gets you better life results:
On a wild hair, I set up a conference with a prof who gave me a B+ for my oral argument. (This is with the ridiculous attire lol).
“So you said you thought you did better, why?”
“Because when they asked the questions, I actually had answers that made legal sense and were correct. When other people answered, they didn’t make sense, they stumbled, and they were incorrect. I was the best at being on point, reframing the arguments, and explicating the law.”
“….yes, but courtroom style and professionalism and demeanor…”
“Look, I do this for a job. No one cares about any of that in reality, so long as you’re right.”
(that isn’t true btw lol, but I just said it because that’s how I felt.)
….
Grade changed to an A. I didn’t ask for it to be changed either. I just answered his questions.
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CH i repeat, how the fuck can you stand to read huffpostdivorce!?! man you have a tough gig. i had to delete that bitch from twitter because it was so horrific. not kidding.
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Also, game in the movies…I never really got it before, but Tony Montana seems to have some game:
He drops a huge neg on her (it’s pretty nuclear but seems correct considering how low value she seemed to think he was). Then, when she gets pissed, he gives a pretty alpha smirk (I may try to steal that look actually lol)…”now you’re talking to me, -that- I like.”
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Michelle Pfeiffer a true 10 in her day IMO.
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pretty smokin’ 30 years ago, no doubt
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scarface sucks for an inspiration on getting bitches
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waaaaaat, Tony Montana’s the man.
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everything except woman he was pretty much the man and made his own rules
but then when it came to that ho he let her run his life
money power then woman
naa less money more ho’s
not really no money but you have to make a conscious effort when rich to not seclude yourself
money makes you sheltered as you can see by him living in that mansion and never interacting outside it
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I agree, Tony Montana is beta in that way that overly ostentatious negroes tend to be.
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tony montana…beta? waaaat
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Speaking of movies… while not exactly game-related it’s hilarious how unPC movies used to be,
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Read the reviews for additional lulz,
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0025803/reviews?ref_=tt_urv
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Her: So whaddaya propose to do about it?
Him: I’ll show ya what I propose to do about it!
(yoink)
Her: OH! Tony! How dare you!
Him: Shuddup! (SLAP)
(she jizzes herself)
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Divorce rates experienced a sharp drop around the time this movie was made.
Coincidence? I think not.
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Betas would argue that its possible the divorce rates were low because women ARE afraid to leave abusive relationships as exemplified in this video for multiple reasons.
So is the argument here that alphas, and all others trying to be, are encouraged to layin the pimp hand down is what this world needs, and the divorce rates will decrease?!
[CH: Careful, sir, or you will have earned yourself a two-minute hate session!]
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One word: Rihanna.
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Now this is un pc
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hey that ugly Hispanic whorething just got her guilty verdict
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cheers bro. i been looking all morning she deserved it. if she had gone free it would have been a blow to the rights of justice for men that people stuck in the Matrix wouldn’t have understood.
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@Heartiste,
You tweeted: “Ideally, a girl would wait three dates before sex. Subconsciously men do devalue girls who put out fast.”
Does this mean sex on the third date or, at the earliest, the fourth?
[CH: It’s not a hard rule. It’s in a girl’s best interest (if she wants to improve the odds the man will stick around for the long haul) to wait a little before putting out. This doesn’t mean be a cold fish. She should look like she’s struggling to keep from jumping his bones. Men want sex as quickly as possble, so men will always push for it sooner. But men also subconsciously devalue girls who put out quickly, for strong evolutionary reasons. (Sluts make bad long-term mates.) And so the dance of seduction twirls and dips…]
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I play by a 90-10 ratio. It’s about as honest as you can be.
90% insulting asshole jerk…10% emotionally vulnerable.
A lot of stuff to attract her…enough stuff to give her hope that she might have a shot to get through the macho exterior.
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@Heatiste,
You tweeted: “Communication is not the key to good marriage. Staying thin (wife) and strong (husband) are.”
What do you mean here by strong? In the physical sense? Is being physically strong both necessary and sufficient?
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physical strength is good to have, but its the emotional toughness that makes the man (or husband in this case). Without that emotional strength, you’re just another SWPL homo emoting through love and life and Tumblr
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lozztas cockas 4 da pretty ladiez
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I think he meant strong as in willful. Being physically strong helps too.
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Theres a study showing that feminine women become sexually attracted to men who are “threatening, volatile, controlling, manipulative, coercive, selfish, dominant, and impulsive” during the period of the cycle where the have the highest risk of conception. Their attraction rises linearly with these traits but only for short term relationships.
Masculine women did not have the same result and preferred nicer men for both short term and long term relationships.
http://evolution.anthro.univie.ac.at/institutes/urbanethology/resources/pdf/johnston.pdf
pg 10 – 11 but read the whole study for full effect. There are other nuggets in there.
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“Theres a study showing that feminine women become sexually attracted to men who are “threatening, volatile, controlling, manipulative, coercive, selfish, dominant, and impulsive” during the period of the cycle where the have the highest risk of conception. Their attraction rises linearly with these traits but only for short term relationships.”
That’s 100% accurate. A man can manipulate this to his advantage. If you’re dating a girl, during the first and last parts of her cycle she is very attracted to dominant sex. It’s the best time to employ these traits and exploit her to get the best sex. Between day 15 and day 25, it’s time to ease off on these traits and cool things down between you two, engaging more sporadically until the next round. It’s a short cooling off period, and it’s always good to have one so that the relationship doesn’t burn out too fast.
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I always find it amusing to see talk about how “science” is vindicating game, coming from a global warming denier.
[CH: The hell are you blabbing about?]
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see Lord Byron’s blog for “Science Invalidates Global Warming”.
also, kill yourself
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The only global warming that concerns CH is that which is going on in womens panties.The introduction of this blogto the manosphere has rasied the mean temperature of young womens panties about 0.5 degrees C over the past 5 years. This is having astounding repercussions. Should aloof assholery,cockiness,and insouciance contnue to grow at is current pace,coastal areas may be swamped by vaginal juice. Bangla Desh will be wiped out.
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@CH: I’m “blabbing” about this post you made: https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2008/11/22/the-great-global-warming-swindle/
Don’t remember?
[CH: Didn’t write it. Are you a sperg hanging onto the memory of ancient posts to deliver a zinger four years later?
For the record, I don’t doubt global warming science.]
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What an idiot; global warming is a hoax. You’re a useful idiot if you believe lefty propaganda about global anything. In fact, global warming is becoming unraveled as we speak. It’s purely a nonsensical ploy for lefty authoritarians to control the average person. Remember, the rules never apply to them though. That’s why you’re a stupid dupe if you fall for their games.
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visited my buddy he makes around 90k so no real nigs in the neighborhood
he said everyone they know getting vasectomies and shit
goes to show idiocracy in action
he got 4 kids already though and his wife wants him to get clipped cause everyone else doing it he won’t do it
lol
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weird part though there were muslims everywhere wtf
like the faces covered and everything
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went to couple of their kids games and two minorities in total
goes to show how swpl’s can have the ideas about things they have cause there is no exposure
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“enjoying the slight mental breakdown anti-realists are having over fallen hero Charles Ramsey”
from link:
“JESUS FUCKING CHRIST YOU JUST CAN’T WIN”
Welcome to every single day in the life of a modern white male, honey. Now, please, scream some more. The sound of it soothes my blackened, flayed soul.
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Family ties: study finds all Europeans are related.
[CH: Read the article. Fucking stupid Cathedral dreck.]
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If that’s the case, then all marriages in Korea should be banned due to incest.
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Interesting article under the related articles:
http://theconversation.com/surprise-facial-expressions-arent-necessarily-universal-6767
If we’re all the same, why don’t we all emote the same?
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Beta male problems?
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http://books.google.com.au/books?id=5uVUwCE3Vm4C&lpg=PA113&ots=4GAZixbBsr&dq=gynoid%20fat%20gynoid%20fat%20gynoid%20fat&pg=PA116#v=onepage&q&f=false
This book would give feminists an aneurysm.
Useful facts:Residual Value=0=hitting the wall.
Men evolved to find max RV attractive=late adolescents most attractive, not most fertile i.e. not women in early-mid twenties.
New word learned=nulliparous.
On page 116.
“In particular, some authors have argued that men are attracted to features associated with women’s age of maximum RV, late adolescence… And indeed, many studies show that sexually attracted features are maximally developed in women at these ages. Women’s breasts, for instance, develop at puberty, reaching adult size by late adolescence. Men are particularly attracted to breasts that are firm, upright, and characterized by relatively reduced nipple pigmentation. These features peak during adolescence and in young, nulliparous women…”
I think I’m going to buy this book.
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Some leftoid anti-HBD, anti-manosphere garbage by an ex-PUA, Mark Manson. Frost already nailed him in the comments.
http://postmasculine.com/the-biology-bias
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guy refuses to kiss fat girlfriend on kiss cam: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2321533/Hilarious-moment-girlfriend-pours-drink-boyfriend-kiss-cam-kept-talking-phone.html
3 times for the win.
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Good write up.
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I found this interesting: ‘In related science/game news, a study finds that students think they learn more from an overconfident instructor than from an awkward instructor, even though there is no real difference in amount learned.’
I’ve been a teacher for some years. I used to tell my students that I know less than 1% of all that is known about my specialist subject. Factually true. Nobody on Earth knows even close to 1%. Nevertheless, after a while I twigged that this wasn’t the greatest of ideas, as my students lost faith in me. On a related note, I’ve become a better teacher since I started using ‘game’ (in a non-pervy way, you understand).
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The entire Manosphere may be a fitness test… note this coment…
http://sunshinemaryandthedragon.wordpress.com/2013/05/09/marital-fitness-testing-101-true-confessions-of-a-fitness-testing-housewife/#comment-3925
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always the classic CR aren’t you,, lolz nice job
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‘How women admire men of leonine resolution and Eagle Principles. How they detest cowardice, “goodness,” feebleness, effeminacy, failure. There is no character in history so universally applauded, as the bold “bad” rebel and the mighty conqueror.’
-Might Is Right (1909)
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Is it possible to interpret the Zimmerman/Martin affair, especially the obvious female adoration of Trayvon and contempt for Zimmerman, in Beta/Alpha terms?
https://mordecaiwashington.wordpress.com/2013/05/14/the-loser-and-the-kid-with-a-future/
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